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Speaker 2: Well, I see that the phones are lit up when

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Speaker 3: What kind of a mood is Ron in this hour?

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Let's say Harry and Vegas. Let's start here. Harry, Welcome

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Speaker 2: to the Car Doctor, sir.

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Speaker 3: How can I help hi?

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Speaker 4: Doctor? Yes, sir, got two vehicles bought you and one

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Speaker 4: day two thousand Tahoe four whill drive got about one

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Speaker 4: hundred and twenty thousand miles on the second engine, which

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Speaker 4: I bought brand new over the counter at Chevrolet. And

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Speaker 4: the weird thing that's doing is this. It's got a

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Speaker 4: thirty gallons gas tanks. It's three it's a five seven engine,

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Speaker 4: which I think is three fifty right, yep, yeah, okay.

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Speaker 4: And that thing burned in town burns about a court

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Speaker 4: of oil. Ever every seven eight nine tanks of gas?

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Speaker 3: How many miles? How many miles is that, Harry?

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Speaker 4: One hundred and twenty?

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Speaker 5: Wow?

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Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, how many? And how many?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 3: No, how many miles? You know that? That's seven tanks

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Speaker 3: of fuel? What is that? Five hundred miles? Nine hundred

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Speaker 3: miles an I'm.

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Speaker 4: Getting about I think close to three hundred miles a tank,

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Speaker 4: and that's thirty galls.

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Speaker 2: So you're driving two thousand miles burning a quart of

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Speaker 2: oil in town, right, But on the highway it doesn't.

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Speaker 4: On the highway, it burns a quart of oil every

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Speaker 4: two tanks a gas. Well, listen, that's cruising. That's cruising

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Speaker 4: at seventy miles an hour at least.

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Speaker 2: It's consistent, so I wonder what would happen. I always

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Speaker 2: think about crank case pressure whenever I hear this. And

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Speaker 2: this is a real quick, simple thing to try. I

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Speaker 2: don't think it's going to fix it, but we'll both

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Speaker 2: feel better because we know we tried something. Is what

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Speaker 2: if you pull the dipstick out of the tube so

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Speaker 2: it sits out about a half inch, relieve some relief,

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Speaker 2: some crank case pressure.

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Speaker 3: Does that make a change?

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Speaker 5: You know?

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Speaker 2: And then you know, looking at or considering crank case

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Speaker 2: ventilation system, do we have something restricted stuck? Has it

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Speaker 2: been this way since new? I mean how long ago

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Speaker 2: is the engines?

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Speaker 4: Now you swapped about I don't know, six seven years ago. Okay,

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Speaker 4: so you just started doing it in about the last

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Speaker 4: maybe a.

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Speaker 3: Year and a half two, right, and I'm sure you

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Speaker 3: were good about oil changes.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, excellent? Right, Actually break the place in the PCB.

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Speaker 2: Valve to right, So and you're using a good quality part, right,

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Speaker 2: I always have to throw that in just to make sure, right, yep? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you know, But do we have a crank case do

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Speaker 2: we have a crank case issue? Do we have sticky

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Speaker 2: or stuck oil rings? If we if we want to

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Speaker 2: go for magic in a bottle, you know. Take a

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Speaker 2: look at the Hotshot Secret website, take a look at

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Speaker 2: some of their additives. Fiction eliminator comes to mind. Do

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Speaker 2: we have and keep in mind, you're gonna tell me

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Speaker 2: we're on the inside of the engine looks spotlessly clean,

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Speaker 2: because I'm sure you've already looked. You've either pulled the

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Speaker 2: valve cover, you've looked inside the breather tube or some

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Speaker 2: such thing. But stiction, which is at first I thought

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Speaker 2: it was a magical word, like who made this up?

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Speaker 2: But it's actually true.

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Speaker 3: For diesels.

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Speaker 2: For example, Ford actually and Ford actually supports Hotshots Secret

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Speaker 2: with Stition eliminator. They make it part of the repair

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Speaker 2: process for the seven point three liter diesels because of

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Speaker 2: issues with oil getting gummy and sticky and binding the

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Speaker 2: and creating injector flow problems and things like that. I

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Speaker 2: can tell you that Stition eliminator may help this. If

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Speaker 2: we've got sticky, stuck rings and we're looking to clean

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Speaker 2: up the crank case, so to speak, it sure can't hurt.

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Speaker 2: It's an inexpensive attempt because the only other option after

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Speaker 2: we get through crank case breathing and we're not able

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Speaker 2: to free up rings.

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Speaker 3: Is where's it going?

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Speaker 2: Is it in the heads? Is it in the bottom end?

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Speaker 2: And we could spend the money and determine that, but

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Speaker 2: it's probably going to come down to we've got to

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Speaker 2: either pull the engine apart or swap it again, and

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Speaker 2: how much fun is that going to be?

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Speaker 4: So but like I said in town, it seems it

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Speaker 4: doesn't burn that much oil. It teams like right.

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Speaker 2: Well, because well that's and that's that's why I think

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Speaker 2: this is a ring issue because obviously we're all along

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Speaker 2: the interstate. It's seventy seventy five miles an hour, and

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Speaker 2: let's be realistic, how many times do we really drive

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Speaker 2: it seventy five miles an hour in the interstate where

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Speaker 2: seventy five we're going in New Jersey. If you're doing

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Speaker 2: seventy five, you're going so slow the eighteen wheels are

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Speaker 2: going to run you over. So we're being hot, we're

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Speaker 2: building higher crank case pressure, and you know we're pressurizing,

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Speaker 2: pushing whale up past the rings usually. So that's why

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Speaker 2: I think I think about binding or stuck or you know,

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Speaker 2: a seized oil control ring or two or three. That's

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Speaker 2: why I come back to the stitional later concept. But

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Speaker 2: there's there's no known commonality.

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Speaker 3: To that, Harry.

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Speaker 2: There's nothing I can do to ease your pain there

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Speaker 2: other than those two things. And you know another engine

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Speaker 2: but and I'm sure GM says it's out of warranty,

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Speaker 2: right sixty miles seven years later.

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Speaker 4: So so this this product is called.

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Speaker 2: What go to hotshot secret dot com? Okay, all right,

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Speaker 2: and you want to look for stiction eliminator.

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Speaker 3: Okay, all right, I've used it.

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Speaker 2: I can tell you right now, I've personally used it.

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Speaker 3: It's green.

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Speaker 2: It looks like it looks like a bottle of slime

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Speaker 2: that the kids play with, right, but it's this like

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Speaker 2: fluorescent green. It really stands out. I used it in

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Speaker 2: my ninety seven Ranger. I had a valve tick that

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Speaker 2: I couldn't get rid of, and it worked.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 2: So I always feel like, and I'm not a miracle

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Speaker 2: drug and a can kind of mechanic, but I've come

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Speaker 2: to the point where, you know, science and technology does

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Speaker 2: seem to help at times, and rather than pull an engine, I'll.

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Speaker 3: Try that first.

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Speaker 2: If that doesn't work, and the crank case ventilation issue

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Speaker 2: and the dipstick relief doesn't do anything, and all the

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Speaker 2: dipstick relief is going to do is tell me if

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Speaker 2: it's in the crank case. If that doesn't work, well

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Speaker 2: then I've got to pull the engine apart. And I

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Speaker 2: would tell you this time, if you have one, find

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Speaker 2: a local engine older and let them go through and

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Speaker 2: either rebuild that one or build you another motor from scratch.

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Speaker 4: So probably should I probably should have done that in

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Speaker 2: Well, there is there is something to be said. And

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Speaker 2: I've always I've always kept this in the back of

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Speaker 2: my mind. The assembly line engines are built where on

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Speaker 2: an assembly line there's no personal touch, there's there's there's

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Speaker 2: less accountability. You know, the assembly line is always happy

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Speaker 2: to give you another engine that they built on the

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Speaker 2: assembly line if the first one fails under the warranty period.

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Speaker 2: Whereas the engine builder, his reputation rides on that. And

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Speaker 2: those guys are fanatics and sticklers, the good ones who

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Speaker 2: make that work.

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Speaker 3: That's their livelihood.

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Speaker 2: So I would I would tell you, you know, small town, USA,

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Speaker 2: find that, find your local engine builder and support him.

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Speaker 2: At least you've got somebody to go back and talk

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Speaker 2: to in the event of a problem.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, I'm definitely going to do it that way.

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Speaker 3: Second question two for a nickel.

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Speaker 4: Okay, I got a two. Also got twenty twelve Cadillac cts.

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Speaker 4: Also about it new It's got seventy thousand miles on it.

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Speaker 4: It's got the three point seven engine.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 4: It developed a small head gasket leak into one of

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Speaker 4: the cylinders, so it's burning the coolant. It started about

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Speaker 4: I think about a half year ago. Now I'm just wondering.

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Speaker 4: It's only got seventy thousand miles on this thing. I've

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Speaker 4: treated it almost like a baby. And is there a

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Speaker 4: problem with this engine? Are you?

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Speaker 3: Are you sure it's the head gasket?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? We did a combustion sniff test on it, okay,

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Speaker 4: and that's what we got the reading. And also yeah,

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Speaker 4: there's no league external leaches, nothing in the fan.

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Speaker 2: Get your hands on g You got a pencil and paper,

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Speaker 2: get your hands on GM bulletin twenty two NA dish two?

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Speaker 5: Okay?

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Speaker 4: Can you repeat that? Sure?

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Speaker 2: Twenty two NA dash to forty and that talks about

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Speaker 2: problems with that particular engine. And boy, Harry, I don't

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Speaker 2: know your lucky. You may get out of Vegas, brother,

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Speaker 2: because your luck's not good.

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Speaker 3: All right.

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Speaker 4: They've got I think I need a different manufacturer.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, something, because that engine has problems with block porosity,

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Speaker 2: seeping coolant through water jackets into the engine oil. So

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Speaker 2: that's why I say, are we sure it's a head

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Speaker 2: gasket And in that case, yeah, it's you know that

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Speaker 2: you're losing coolant internally, and assuming it's a.

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Speaker 4: Head gasket, yeah, because it's not an oil pant.

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Speaker 3: Right, So.

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Speaker 2: You know, although the block porosity issue, generally you will

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Speaker 2: start to see coolant in the oil, but truth be told,

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Speaker 2: head gasket failure generally you'll start to see cooling in

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Speaker 2: the oil as well. So maybe this is you know,

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Speaker 2: if this is a head gasket issue, why can't we

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Speaker 2: pull the plugs, pressurize the cooling system overnight, let it sit,

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Speaker 2: come back in the morning and look in each cylinder,

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Speaker 2: bringing around by hand, see if we see any coolant

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Speaker 2: on top of the pistons. Let's get a borscope and

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Speaker 2: look and said.

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Speaker 4: Right, we did a we did a combustion test on

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Speaker 4: the on the radiator. All right, yeah, that's fair, was

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Speaker 4: coming back positive. But what if if this is got

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Speaker 4: if this is the problem, which I almost shure, is

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Speaker 4: what what do you what do you recommend as to Fitch.

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Speaker 2: Find that local engine builder get him to build you

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Speaker 2: another one. I'm sorry, hey, Harry, can I can I

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Speaker 2: try and make your day better?

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Speaker 3: Okay?

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Speaker 2: If you stay on the line after we say goodbye,

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Speaker 2: give Tom, give Tom your name and address. I'm gonna

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Speaker 2: send you a car doctor T shirt. I think you

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Speaker 2: need a boost today, my friend. Anybody that anybody.

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Speaker 4: I'm about I'm about a shot of whiskey.

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Speaker 2: Well I can't do that legally, but I can't cross

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Speaker 3: So all right, sir, Yeah, well, thank you.

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Speaker 2: You're very welcome. Harry, you'll be well, Hey, yeah, yeay,

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Speaker 3: He can't.

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Speaker 2: He definitely shouldn't go play cards tonight. A five five,

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Speaker 3: The card doctor. I'll be back right after this.

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Speaker 2: Let's go to Michigan and talk to Spencer eight Chevy

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Speaker 5: Hey?

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Speaker 4: Good?

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Speaker 6: How are you okay? So just it's a mechanic special.

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Speaker 6: I bought it for a thousand bucks single dad. You know,

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Speaker 4: Eventually, I get it.

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Speaker 6: It was recommended, it was recommended that I changed the

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Speaker 3: Well wait to figure out. Wait a minute, brother, So

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Speaker 3: all right, so that's okay.

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Speaker 2: So you bought this, all right, I can envision what

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Speaker 6: Yeah, so it said they replaced from the uh from

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Speaker 2: Okay, And why don't you think fuel is leaking causing

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Speaker 6: Because when I go to the you know, when I

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Speaker 3: Well, small drops of gas, not oil. Okay, right, it's

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Speaker 6: Well yeah, so it's a fuel line, but it starts

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Speaker 2: Okay, So are there other are there? Are we sure

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Are you looking at this? Here is your mechanic looking

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Speaker 6: After my mechanic had looked at it, because he did,

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Speaker 6: And that's what my mechanics that the leak was upfront,

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Speaker 2: So it sounds like from my seat here, he's talking

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Speaker 6: Know, and I'm not blessed in those terms, right, familiar.

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Speaker 3: Right is leaking?

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Speaker 2: My my? I have two concerns here. Number one, obviously,

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Speaker 2: I want you to get better fuel economy, all right,

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Speaker 2: and I want if there's a legitimate issue, I want

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Speaker 2: I want to fix it. But but number two, you

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Speaker 2: and I admire you for your a single dad, right,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I want.

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Speaker 2: I want to make sure that I want to make

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Speaker 6: And I did get my mechanics, you know, fuel approval,

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Speaker 6: that the car was stated to drive essentially well.

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Speaker 3: But you know, hear me out, all right. A fuel

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Speaker 3: there's no there's no I'm a little bit pregnant, all right.

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Speaker 3: Either either are or not.

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Speaker 2: It either leaks or it doesn't. If it's a if

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Speaker 2: under no condition can we assume that that's safe because

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Speaker 2: it's it's one cigarette butt on the ground, park over the.

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Speaker 3: Top of it, and kaboom.

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Speaker 2: So exactly I want you to get that clear as

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Speaker 2: All right, what does the gauge say? Is the gauge dropping?

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Speaker 6: The cage does drop quite a bit yet.

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Speaker 3: So you're telling me.

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Speaker 2: You park the car and it's at half, You come

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and then I once I started back up there,

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Speaker 3: Okay, Well, then I'm not so worried about it.

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Speaker 2: If we calculate, if we forget, forget all the bells

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Speaker 3: Is it reasonable for what the vehicle is?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's about twenty five mile.

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Speaker 2: Okay, then twenty five to the gallon? Yeah, brother, brother,

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Speaker 2: you're fine. I wouldn't focus on the I wouldn't focus on.

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Speaker 3: The do dad how accurate it is? All right? I

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Speaker 6: Gotcha? And thank god I have a backup car?

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Speaker 2: So right, no, right, but thank you for the Hey, listen,

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Speaker 2: If I can stay on the line, Let's give away

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Speaker 2: T shirts this hour.

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Speaker 3: Stay on the line.

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Speaker 2: Let Tom send you a car doctor T shirt. Give

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Speaker 2: And uh, you know what, what's and you know what

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Speaker 2: what if we got one that fits him this way,

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Speaker 3: All right, all right, kiddo, you're very welcome. You're very welcome.

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Speaker 3: You'd be well.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, safety comes into right. I can see Spencer and

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Speaker 2: to Paul and Virginia Beach. What's going on here with

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Speaker 2: a twenty seventeen Mercedes Sprinter. Paul, Welcome to the car Doctor, Sir,

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Speaker 2: How can I help?

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Speaker 5: Hello?

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Speaker 4: Ron?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, thanks you and Tom for taking my call.

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Speaker 3: It came for me, okay, Yeah, hear you perfectly. What's cooking?

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Speaker 5: Okay? Great? So I went on an eight day RV

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Speaker 5: second keyfob. I still have one that works. So I

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Speaker 5: went down to Mercedes local dealer. This is a Mercedes

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Speaker 5: splintered chassis with the Winnebago navion right on top.

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Speaker 2: Right, it's built, it's built on the chassis. It's basically

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Speaker 2: a motor home built on a Mercedes chassis.

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Speaker 5: Correct, right, Yeah, it's about forty five thousand miles, runs great.

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Speaker 5: They I said, I'd like to order a new key fob,

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Speaker 5: and they said, well, I'll want to go back to

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Speaker 5: not selling them. They've only got about two hundred in

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Speaker 5: lost both keys and have to have their RV towed

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Speaker 5: in to replace it. Because I did more research, Apparently

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Speaker 5: it's because of a chip shortage. Yes, So I called

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Speaker 5: the supply in New Jersey who originally sold the vehicle

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Speaker 5: to the first owner. He said, what if I buy

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Speaker 5: the metal thing that sticks into the ignition and the

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Speaker 5: internal guts and electronics and ship He said, you'll open

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Speaker 5: has to be tied to the electronics of the vehicle,

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Speaker 5: so correct, I'm looking for an alternative or a suggestion.

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Speaker 5: What the Mercedes dealer said was, well, just go buy

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Speaker 5: an electronic tag like a tile and put it on

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Speaker 5: the key ring so if you lose the one you

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Speaker 5: still have you can find it. They have no suggestions

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Speaker 5: about a second fob without no suggestions.

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Speaker 3: Isn't it amazing?

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Speaker 2: It's and you know what, Paul, everything you said is

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Speaker 2: spot on true. That's Mercedes corporate position. If you if

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Speaker 2: you have to wait until you lose it, and the

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Speaker 2: only the only way they know that you lost it,

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Speaker 2: you have to call them up.

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Speaker 3: I lost my key fob. They're going to tow the motor.

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Speaker 2: Home in, right, can't drive it in, They're gonna tow

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Speaker 2: it in. And they're going to sell you two key fobs.

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Speaker 5: At twelve hundred dollars a piece.

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Speaker 2: Right, so you're gonna plus the toe. So you got

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Speaker 2: to figure this is a three thousand dollars key. By

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Speaker 2: the time you're done and you just you scratch your head,

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Speaker 2: you say, really, what I wouldn't suggest or try? What

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Speaker 2: I would ask the dealership depending upon how good or

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Speaker 2: bad your relationship is at this point, because I don't

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Speaker 3: Words for them.

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Speaker 2: If you were to get a replacement fob, did they

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Speaker 2: have the ability to erase it and program it to

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Speaker 2: the system. And then if you go out to eBay

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Speaker 2: and buy a used fob, can they erase a used fob.

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Speaker 3: And program that to the vehicle?

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Speaker 5: That's a question. I think they would need to have

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Speaker 5: Mercedes authorization to wipe out the vehicle programming as well

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Speaker 5: as the two fobs, the new one and in the

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Speaker 5: existing one. But if Mercedes would have to authorize it,

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Speaker 5: I guess.

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Speaker 2: But it's a question you got to ask, right if

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Speaker 2: if you came up with two fresh alternatives on your own,

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Speaker 2: two fresh used alternatives on your own, could they program it?

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00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:31,879
Speaker 5: Well, they'd have to program, but they also have to

443
00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:37,919
Speaker 5: cut the blank at the ignition. So yeah, so not

444
00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:39,320
Speaker 5: a lot of good suggestions.

445
00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:41,800
Speaker 2: No, there's and you know what, you're at the mercy

446
00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:46,680
Speaker 2: of the manufacturer at that point. Now, why they're claiming

447
00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:48,480
Speaker 2: this chip short and this has been going on for

448
00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:49,880
Speaker 2: the better part of three years.

449
00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:52,880
Speaker 5: I never heard of it but now I have right.

450
00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:54,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, this has been going on the better part of

451
00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:57,240
Speaker 2: three years. And what gets me is every time I

452
00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:59,920
Speaker 2: run across this, I go, it's a year and a half,

453
00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:03,960
Speaker 2: it's it's two years, it's it's two years in three months.

454
00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:06,720
Speaker 2: It's now three years later, and they still have this problem.

455
00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:11,000
Speaker 2: They haven't done anything to correct it. I guess we're

456
00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:12,560
Speaker 2: never buying another thing from Mercedes.

457
00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:15,439
Speaker 5: Huh, Well, I mean I thought the chip shortage had

458
00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:18,360
Speaker 5: kind of resolved itself. That's someone kind of surprised.

459
00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:23,119
Speaker 2: Well, I think part of the problem is, you know,

460
00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:26,480
Speaker 2: the back door, backroom conversation is that this particular chip

461
00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:30,800
Speaker 2: system was only employed in a few models, and as

462
00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:34,320
Speaker 2: a result, there isn't enough demand to retool up the

463
00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:36,600
Speaker 2: line to start making the chips again.

464
00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:37,320
Speaker 3: It was it.

465
00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:41,560
Speaker 2: Was a specific design that only a few models incorporated,

466
00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:43,679
Speaker 2: and they're thinking, well, why would I want to go

467
00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:46,919
Speaker 2: and spend thousands of dollars or millions of dollars or

468
00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:50,080
Speaker 2: some point in between to create all these chips again,

469
00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:52,240
Speaker 2: because how much demand is there.

470
00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:55,840
Speaker 5: It would be probably like a like a specialty for

471
00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:56,960
Speaker 5: that unique model.

472
00:22:56,960 --> 00:23:00,160
Speaker 3: Correct. Correct, It would be like it would be like

473
00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:01,720
Speaker 3: stamping out one of.

474
00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:03,920
Speaker 5: My former bosses said never buy anything with a low

475
00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:04,800
Speaker 5: ceial number.

476
00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:09,480
Speaker 2: Well, right, well, he's not wrong, right, you know, it

477
00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:11,520
Speaker 2: would be kind of like, you know, looking for them

478
00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:15,800
Speaker 2: to re stamp fenders for an etzel. Why would they

479
00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:18,080
Speaker 2: there aren't enough of them left for it. The matter,

480
00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:22,320
Speaker 2: I feel your pain, I really do. I really do, Paul.

481
00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:25,200
Speaker 5: I've got a tile that I that I bought. I'm

482
00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,159
Speaker 5: gonna put it on the key ring and maybe for

483
00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:30,200
Speaker 5: your listeners, it's not a bad idea to put tiles

484
00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:32,240
Speaker 5: or electronic tags on all your keys.

485
00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:33,920
Speaker 2: Well, and I'll tell you what. Let's go one better.

486
00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:36,120
Speaker 2: If anybody out there has run into this and they've

487
00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:39,359
Speaker 2: got a better solution, we'd love to hear it, because

488
00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:42,159
Speaker 2: this is this is a problem that I've heard and

489
00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:44,600
Speaker 2: run into. This is probably the fourth time I've heard

490
00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:47,800
Speaker 2: this in three years that it's it's it's an issue.

491
00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:49,840
Speaker 2: Tell you what, Paul, stay on the line. I'm gonna

492
00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:51,560
Speaker 2: send you out a card doctor T shirt. Everybody's in

493
00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:54,480
Speaker 2: pain today. You notice that guys are losing engines, guys

494
00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:57,000
Speaker 2: are losing keys. Let's let's send you a T shirt

495
00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:58,719
Speaker 2: will make you smile. So stay on the line. Let

496
00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:00,960
Speaker 2: Tom get your size and information. We'll get a T

497
00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:03,880
Speaker 2: shirt out to you this week. All right, Kittle, Thanks rolling,

498
00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:06,600
Speaker 2: and you're very welcome, sir, you'd be well. Eight five

499
00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:10,280
Speaker 2: five five six zero nine nine zero zero. Let's pull over,

500
00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:10,879
Speaker 2: take a pause.

501
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:12,720
Speaker 3: I'm running any in the car. Doctor. We'll be back

502
00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:19,639
Speaker 3: right after this. Hey, let's uh. Oh, I don't know.

503
00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:22,280
Speaker 2: Let's go to Kerry and uh, I don't know where

504
00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:25,720
Speaker 2: carry is? Uh carries in Oklahoma. I'm sorry, I can't see.

505
00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:28,200
Speaker 2: I can't read anymore. I saw carry okay, I said, yeah,

506
00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:32,919
Speaker 2: Carry's okay. No, Oh, Kerry, Oklahoma, got it.

507
00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:35,080
Speaker 3: It's been a long hour two thousand and three Odyssey Kerry.

508
00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:36,360
Speaker 3: How can I help? What's going on?

509
00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:37,560
Speaker 5: So?

510
00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:42,600
Speaker 7: I was driving it earlier in the week and the

511
00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:49,720
Speaker 7: dash lights stayed on, but the gages completely flatlined, transmission

512
00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:57,000
Speaker 7: of power, steering were dead, and engines still ran, fans

513
00:24:57,040 --> 00:25:00,320
Speaker 7: were still running. Everything else is still going. I just

514
00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:05,399
Speaker 7: couldn't accelerate all that. So I pulled over and it

515
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:10,600
Speaker 7: happened numerous times. But I had the issues before with

516
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:11,920
Speaker 7: the battery housing.

517
00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:13,920
Speaker 4: So I got under.

518
00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:18,080
Speaker 7: The hood and check the battery. It was secure, checked

519
00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:23,800
Speaker 7: the connectors to the posts, and terminals. Everything was fine.

520
00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:27,320
Speaker 7: So I was like, all right, let's start everything off

521
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:31,600
Speaker 7: and I I didn't do it again, shut the fans off,

522
00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:36,959
Speaker 7: everything radio, and it didn't do it again. Now nobody

523
00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:38,240
Speaker 7: can tell me what's wrong with it.

524
00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:42,320
Speaker 2: Okay, so it can't be reproduced. But it happened once

525
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:44,400
Speaker 2: or twice three times, and that was it.

526
00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:47,879
Speaker 7: Yeah, it happened about three or four times. Was in

527
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:51,960
Speaker 7: about half a mile. And once I got out and

528
00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:56,399
Speaker 7: fiddled with the battery, you know, checking stuff with the battery,

529
00:25:56,480 --> 00:26:01,160
Speaker 7: just making sure that wasn't the issue again, or nothing

530
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:01,840
Speaker 7: happened or.

531
00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:04,240
Speaker 2: Something cooled off. So let me ask you this question.

532
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:07,320
Speaker 2: When you say the transmission was dead, the engine ran

533
00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:10,720
Speaker 2: when you stepped on the gas, what would happen? Nothing,

534
00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:15,200
Speaker 2: The engine wouldn't riv up, Nope, But it.

535
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:19,600
Speaker 7: Was still like I could hear the engine running, and

536
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:22,160
Speaker 7: so I like I would have to turn my van

537
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:27,400
Speaker 7: off to restart it, but like I could still hear

538
00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:31,880
Speaker 7: the engine, or at least it sounded like the engine.

539
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:35,119
Speaker 7: It could have just been belts or something running.

540
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:39,159
Speaker 2: Well, belts belts won't belts won't run by themselves. You

541
00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:41,840
Speaker 2: sure this isn't a case you were hearing the cooling

542
00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:45,760
Speaker 2: fan running and the engine and the engine was off.

543
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:47,560
Speaker 6: Could have been.

544
00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:49,400
Speaker 3: Because that would make sense.

545
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:52,040
Speaker 2: It would make sense to me that the engine was off,

546
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:55,760
Speaker 2: or the engine was in accessory mode, or it thought

547
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:59,760
Speaker 2: it was an accessory mode, and you know, steering would

548
00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:03,000
Speaker 2: be I the engine wouldn't run, the gauges would be

549
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:06,520
Speaker 2: down because it thought you had switched it off.

550
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 3: Higher mileage vehicle almost two. Do you have a lot

551
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:18,200
Speaker 3: of stuff on your key ring? Nope, just singular kid.

552
00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:18,480
Speaker 5: Yeah.

553
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:19,960
Speaker 3: I always asked that question, kiddo.

554
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:25,639
Speaker 7: No, So been through that twice with the ignition switch

555
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 7: because of excess keys. So it is the two keys

556
00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:33,280
Speaker 7: because I have to have a key for the ignition

557
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:36,920
Speaker 7: key for the door because the cylinder had to be changed,

558
00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 7: so I had to get a new key for the ignition.

559
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 7: But now it's just the keyring and those two keys.

560
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:48,879
Speaker 2: And has anybody done a full vehicle code scan? I

561
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:51,360
Speaker 2: don't mean an auto port store code scan. I mean

562
00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 2: repair shop, your make model. We look at every module.

563
00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:56,359
Speaker 2: Does anything report a fault?

564
00:27:58,560 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 6: I don't know.

565
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:02,720
Speaker 7: All I know is because it's at the dealership right now.

566
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 7: They have said they have run like there's no codes,

567
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:11,280
Speaker 7: no errors, nothing. They have not been able to reproduce anything.

568
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 7: They've checked for parasitic power draw They've checked everything, and

569
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 7: they're like, we can't everything.

570
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 6: It's good to go.

571
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:26,240
Speaker 2: We don't, right, So the next question becomes the next

572
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:29,280
Speaker 2: time it happens, pull over the side of the road,

573
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 2: turn the key off, turn the key on, but don't

574
00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:33,800
Speaker 2: start it.

575
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 3: Do you do you have dash lights? Did you have

576
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 3: dash lights this time?

577
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:41,480
Speaker 2: I don't mean white lights, I mean warning indicators. Did

578
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:44,600
Speaker 2: the warning indicators light up when it's stalled? Because I'm

579
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:46,240
Speaker 2: thinking this was a stall condition.

580
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 7: So at one point they did come on like I

581
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:55,120
Speaker 7: was in accessory mode, like I had the back lights. Yes,

582
00:28:55,600 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 7: but it had the Gaga's head flatlined. And one of

583
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:05,960
Speaker 7: the times it without me doing anything, it just splited

584
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:09,560
Speaker 7: in all the warning lights. All everything came back up,

585
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 7: but the gauges didn't.

586
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 3: Okay, any aftermarket accessories in this vehicle, Kerry, not that

587
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 3: I'm aware of. Okay, you're the original owner. I know

588
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:21,840
Speaker 3: you bought it, used, it was used.

589
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 7: I got it in twenty fourteen.

590
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm going to tell you that this is going

591
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:30,400
Speaker 2: to be a case of we've got to go around

592
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:34,720
Speaker 2: the engine compartment wiring, harness, pull proke, prod, try and

593
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:36,720
Speaker 2: duplicate it, try and get the cutout. I don't think

594
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:38,960
Speaker 2: you will take a look under the dish, anything obvious,

595
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 2: any signs of animals anywhere, chewing on wires. We're looking

596
00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 2: for the ridiculous and the obvious, and then you've just

597
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 2: got to be aware the next time it happens. Is

598
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 2: the engine really running right? That would be the key,

599
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 2: And the simplest way is with the engine running. You know,

600
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 2: you sound fairly smart. You know what a serpentine belt is, right,

601
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:02,880
Speaker 2: go out and look the alternator spinning? Is the belt moving?

602
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 2: It's difficult for me to get my brain around. The

603
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 2: engine makes noise, but the transmission does absolutely nothing. When

604
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 2: I step on the gas, the engine should at least

605
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:18,760
Speaker 2: rev up right all right, and it doesn't. So I'm

606
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 2: thinking the engine was stalled. You were hearing the cooling

607
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:23,920
Speaker 2: fans run. That would account for And then all of

608
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,560
Speaker 2: a sudden, the diagnosis makes sense. The trans won't work,

609
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:29,600
Speaker 2: the power steering won't work, the car won't accelerate, so

610
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:32,160
Speaker 2: the car thought it was in a stall mode. Now,

611
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:36,120
Speaker 2: the last question I've got is, you know what sort

612
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:38,840
Speaker 2: of shape is the lock cylinder, and is it warned,

613
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:40,040
Speaker 2: does it have a little bit of.

614
00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:47,440
Speaker 3: Slop to it that it's you would know, all right,

615
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:48,600
Speaker 3: you don't have to. You don't have to.

616
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 7: It's it's just like there's yeah, it just starts well.

617
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:58,960
Speaker 7: And that's the other thing though, over the last couple

618
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 7: of weeks, it hasn't started right off, like I'd turn

619
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 7: it and it would act like it was going to start,

620
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:10,479
Speaker 7: and then I'd let go, and then it wouldn't, and

621
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 7: then I'd give it another round.

622
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 3: And it would just almost almost like the key was

623
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 3: in the wrong position.

624
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 2: Possibly, I think you got an ignition switch issue, sweetheart,

625
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 2: so be aware of it, all right. You could have

626
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:28,960
Speaker 2: them look at wiring and consider either changing a switch,

627
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 2: which isn't the most expensive thing in the world, using

628
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:34,600
Speaker 2: a good quality Honda part. Or you could have them

629
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 2: wire in a bulb, an indicator bulb to show power

630
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 2: coming into the switch or power coming out pick your

631
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 2: poison or both. And this way, the next time it stalls,

632
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,120
Speaker 2: is one light lit up, is both lights lit up,

633
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 2: and it'll cut the diagnosis in half because you're at

634
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 2: that point in the circuit where if both lights are

635
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 2: lit up, or if one's lit up, and the other

636
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:56,800
Speaker 2: one isn't that tells me that we've got an issue

637
00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:58,560
Speaker 2: with the ignition switch itself.

638
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 3: Stand on the line. I'm gonna get your name and

639
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 3: address and size. Tell it. We'll send you out a card,

640
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:04,480
Speaker 3: doctor T shirt. Try and brighten your day.

641
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 2: Not to make me the savior here, but let's see

642
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 2: if we can give you something to laugh at or

643
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 2: enjoy while.

644
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 3: You're wearing it.

645
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 2: All right, Kerry, good luck to you, and keep us posted.

646
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:13,480
Speaker 2: Let us know what happens. I'm on an AD in

647
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 2: the car.

648
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 3: Doctor, We're back right after this.

649
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 2: Let's real quick, get to Matt, Matt go, we got

650
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 2: about a minute and a half.

651
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:24,880
Speaker 3: Babe, what's going on?

652
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 5: Hey?

653
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 8: You got a ninety eight jet of td I okay,

654
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:32,120
Speaker 8: and fifth gear it gives in the limb mode. I

655
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:34,320
Speaker 8: got two of these cars and they both seem to

656
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:35,160
Speaker 8: do the same thing.

657
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 3: Okay, So I.

658
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 8: Replaced the head. I was one of the unfortunate ones

659
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 8: to push it on the timing belt and roll the

660
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:49,960
Speaker 8: dice on a new head. Yep, and again it always

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Speaker 8: does is fifth gear?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 2: You know what's common is they lose vehicle speed sensor

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Speaker 2: signal from either G sixty eight or G thirty eight.

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Speaker 2: All right, there's two speat sensors in the trans for

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Speaker 2: this particular car, and it will lose. It will lose

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Speaker 2: or get an erratic signal from one or the other.

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Speaker 2: So it's a matter of going through wiring, looking at wiring.

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Speaker 2: Either either scope or scope is probably going to be

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Speaker 2: the only way.

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Speaker 3: Ninety eight.

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Speaker 2: I know that I would trust the signal on a

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Speaker 2: scan tool to look at it and verify it that way,

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Speaker 2: But that's where you're headed for it to go into

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Speaker 2: limp mode like that, losing track of speed signal generally

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Speaker 2: out of the transmission output shaft, and it creates that

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Speaker 2: fault code. Sorry, I'm gonna have more time, Mattie. I

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Speaker 2: hope that gets you in the right direction. Stand the line, however,

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Speaker 2: we will brighten your day and send you.

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Speaker 3: Out a card doctor t shirt.

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Speaker 2: We appreciate you calling in and if it can help

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Speaker 2: you any further, just give us a call next week

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Speaker 2: when we have more time available. Till the next time.

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Speaker 2: I'm Ron and Andy and the car doctor. I'm happy

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Speaker 2: to be here and proud to serve with all of

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Speaker 2: you till the next time. Good mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless,

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Speaker 2: See you