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<v Speaker 1>What's up And welcome back to another episode of No

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<v Speaker 1>Sealers Podcast with your hosts Now fuck that with your

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<v Speaker 1>load glasses Malone.

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<v Speaker 2>So my sole vote just pushed them into the office. Hum,

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<v Speaker 2>that's some cold stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>Doesn't help when you register to vote in fifty states

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<v Speaker 3>either and a mail and mail forwarding system.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what, I'm starting to believe that they did that.

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<v Speaker 2>There was some collusion when it came back. That was

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<v Speaker 2>pretty weird.

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<v Speaker 4>You think.

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<v Speaker 2>That was pretty They made sure his ass wasn't getting

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<v Speaker 2>the office no more.

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<v Speaker 5>This is all your fucking fault, man.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no it's not. I'm asking.

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<v Speaker 5>You are the problem, bro.

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<v Speaker 1>It's people who be emotionally into all of these situations

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<v Speaker 1>that make it tough. Like you be thinking with your emotions,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't be thinking logically. Look, I don't know who

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<v Speaker 1>is a better candidate for the presidency, Trump or Biden, right,

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<v Speaker 1>Because at the end of the day, like if I

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<v Speaker 1>voted individually right, it'll probably come down the money in taxes.

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<v Speaker 1>That would be the main thing, because I don't have

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<v Speaker 1>no faith and nothing other when it comes to them

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<v Speaker 1>type of white folks at that level doing the right

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<v Speaker 1>thing for black people, everything would have to be like

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<v Speaker 1>a trickle down kind of theory for black people in

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<v Speaker 1>this country to benefit, right, trickle down. I'm not voting

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<v Speaker 1>for white women to get some shit, and then this

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<v Speaker 1>what do you call them? This minority group and this,

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<v Speaker 1>and we at the very bottom. So to me, if

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<v Speaker 1>I voted independently, it would be probably tax reasons right

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<v Speaker 1>where I make money at that's to me what politics

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<v Speaker 1>is about. The second thing would probably be nothing, What

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<v Speaker 1>the fuck difference do the president make? Like what the

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<v Speaker 1>fuck the president may America is committed to war because

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<v Speaker 1>that's the business.

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<v Speaker 5>It's seeing.

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<v Speaker 1>It's always in the war business, what I'm saying. So

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<v Speaker 1>at that point it didn't make sense to me. It

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<v Speaker 1>just becomes entertainment.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Peter, you may be able to help me out

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<v Speaker 2>with this. One of the original reasons for taxation word

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<v Speaker 2>was for times of war, right my correct income text

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<v Speaker 2>income texts, Well.

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<v Speaker 4>Income tax was relatively recent.

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<v Speaker 3>Most everything was really a transactional tax, tariff based stuff

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<v Speaker 3>and all that kind of thing, you know, originally just

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<v Speaker 3>to do basic minimum stuff. Income tax happened what like

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<v Speaker 3>twenty first or twentieth century, I mean, and I think

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<v Speaker 3>that was sort of cloaked and whatever they wanted to

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<v Speaker 3>call it.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, from what I remember reading that, I think one

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<v Speaker 2>of the either world World War two maybe belief so

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<v Speaker 2>that it was put in a place to subsidize the military.

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<v Speaker 2>And it seems like the America has managed to keep

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<v Speaker 2>themselves in the state of war somewhere around the world

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<v Speaker 2>every every month since then.

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<v Speaker 5>I always want to get on World War One?

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<v Speaker 1>Why do you always want to get on those ceilings

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<v Speaker 1>because and try to have these conversations about fucking America

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<v Speaker 1>or something that's gonna piss somebody off.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh no, but we can go. It's your show, bro.

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<v Speaker 2>I was just asking Peter a questions.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm asking a legit question, Like when y'all don't gainst

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<v Speaker 1>the chronicles, y'all be talking about rap shit and rap

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<v Speaker 1>shit and rap shit. You get on this motherfucker. We

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<v Speaker 1>got to scrap one podcast, then we come on another podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>and now you want to talk about taxes and ship

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<v Speaker 1>and all of that.

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<v Speaker 5>Why you want to come over here.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't come over this motherfucking try to sound intelligent. Oh round,

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<v Speaker 1>you could be the same ignorant on the gates of chronicles.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't come over here with our ship. Try to be intelligence.

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<v Speaker 1>Big bro, just come over here with that bullshit.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I got you. Then, well, you don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>break the conversation.

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<v Speaker 5>I was just fun I didn't bring the conversation up.

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<v Speaker 5>We don't. You know it's funny.

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<v Speaker 4>He was making conversations about blame.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh you know what I do. Want to talk about

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<v Speaker 2>the funniest stuff in the world. Happened Saturday. Man, That

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<v Speaker 2>tickled me so much. Man, Maria and Jasmine was cracking

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<v Speaker 2>up bad. She had to rescue a wild goat. Hum hm.

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<v Speaker 2>A goat got escaped this cage at the party. We

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<v Speaker 2>was at his niece's your niece, right, gee, yes, we

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<v Speaker 2>was at his niece's birthday party and it was a

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<v Speaker 2>cowboy theme, so they had horses. It's actually pretty cool, goats,

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<v Speaker 2>sheep outside, chickens. It was just it was pretty live anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the goats escaped this cage, right, and that

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<v Speaker 2>other goat just went ape. Shit was out there bad,

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<v Speaker 2>like calling the other got bad, bad bad. And you

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<v Speaker 2>should have saw that goat out there juking that lady. Man,

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<v Speaker 2>that was the funny. She hit that lady with a

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<v Speaker 2>stutter step.

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<v Speaker 5>Man. So we're gonna do a whole podcast about little goats.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh no, it was just funny because Glasses was so calm, like,

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<v Speaker 2>hold on, stop, you know, Glasses just think you know

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<v Speaker 2>how to handle every situation just appropriately. He wound up

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<v Speaker 2>getting the goat and throwing it back over the fence.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, if somebody would have saw that, man, everybody

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<v Speaker 2>is so worried about animal rights. If somebody would have

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<v Speaker 2>saw you throw that goat over that fence, man, you'd

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<v Speaker 2>probably be banning right now today.

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<v Speaker 4>All right now, send the new link.

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<v Speaker 3>Man.

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<v Speaker 2>He didn't throw it over the gate. He picked it

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<v Speaker 2>up and put it over the gate. But people are

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<v Speaker 2>so sensitive nowadays about stuff like that. They just think

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<v Speaker 2>you should have just let the goat just keep running wild.

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<v Speaker 4>I thought you were gonna say, you know, how were

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<v Speaker 4>you scared? Goats a lot? They just tip over.

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<v Speaker 3>I actually gonna say Glasses fired around off of the goat,

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<v Speaker 3>just dunk like like frozen.

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<v Speaker 2>Fear of the you knowxt thing. Actually, Glasses was the

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<v Speaker 2>hero of that day.

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<v Speaker 5>Called Drakes fan based Peter. That's my new name for

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<v Speaker 5>Drake's fan base. Peter. You're always protecting the owls. Check

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<v Speaker 5>the owl Peter.

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<v Speaker 2>I like that.

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<v Speaker 1>No, it's just weird because I was thinking about what

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<v Speaker 1>do we do on this podcast, and I think the

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<v Speaker 1>only thing I kept coming up with was to do

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<v Speaker 1>a podcast about why we had to replace the original podcast.

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<v Speaker 3>Isn't that kinna just turned into the same podcast all

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<v Speaker 3>over again?

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<v Speaker 5>Though I was thinking about that, it wouldn't. We don't

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<v Speaker 5>have to.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the thing that makes it really dope, and it

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<v Speaker 1>markets o this podcast, the podcast that shall not be named,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying, So like that podcast, I

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<v Speaker 1>was thinking, we should do this podcast about the podcast

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<v Speaker 1>that we have to scratch because still fucked up. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so we don't have to talk about why we have

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<v Speaker 1>to scrap it. We have to talk about why the

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<v Speaker 1>fuck still felt compelled? Like when these mics, Why is

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<v Speaker 1>it when motherfuckers get these mics in front of them,

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<v Speaker 1>they just lose their mind and just start saying all

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<v Speaker 1>kind of silly.

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<v Speaker 5>Shit, Like they don't realize this shit has.

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<v Speaker 1>Ramification, and it's happening in all podcast spaces, Like you'll

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<v Speaker 1>see somebody say some ship.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 1>Live streams pod is like you put a mic in

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<v Speaker 1>front of a motherfucker and they just turn into satan.

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<v Speaker 2>No, you know what I'm thinking of you, bro. I

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<v Speaker 2>think sometimes you say things and you don't you're not

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<v Speaker 2>really thinking about what you're saying at the time and

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<v Speaker 2>who could possibly impact.

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<v Speaker 1>So why the hell would you not be thinking about that? Still,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're talking like.

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<v Speaker 3>You're a veteran podcaster, so your audience conscious, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>you're not a guest, you know.

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<v Speaker 5>Like that?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, a great point. Yeah, you know I should definitely

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<v Speaker 2>know better, and I should hold myself accountable what I did.

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<v Speaker 5>No, you didn't us accountable.

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<v Speaker 4>You held our show accountable.

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<v Speaker 2>No, that's why I'm here with y'all today. You know, y'all,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm y'all number one supporter.

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<v Speaker 4>You are a most frequently recurring guest.

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<v Speaker 5>You definitely are well.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like still is the reason I do podcasts

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<v Speaker 1>Still one, Charlotmagne two. That's the only reason I do pop.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't really like there's this belief. Let me let

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<v Speaker 1>y'all in on the secret. This gonna sound crazy to

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<v Speaker 1>anybody who knows me, and I understand why I really

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<v Speaker 1>don't like talking, Like you have to really know me,

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<v Speaker 1>if you really have to know me to know that.

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<v Speaker 1>Most people think I like talking because I have something

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<v Speaker 1>to say sometimes or often I don't like talking. When

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<v Speaker 1>me and Still on the phone, Still is doing all

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<v Speaker 1>of the talking. For the most part, I'm listening and

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<v Speaker 1>taking mental notes. When me and Peters talking, I'm always

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<v Speaker 1>kind of getting to my point and getting off his

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<v Speaker 1>fucking phone. I'm never dragging the conversation. So to me,

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<v Speaker 1>people who really know me know that I don't like talking.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think the world see me in these interviews,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, they don't realize I understand why I

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<v Speaker 1>have to talk, right, but I hate talking like I

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<v Speaker 1>hate talking, Like some of this shit should not have

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<v Speaker 1>to be said. Why the fuck am I talking? So

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<v Speaker 1>I just would like to know why is it went well?

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<v Speaker 1>First off, No Ceilings gl my man, Pete in the spot,

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<v Speaker 1>my big brother Still. We doing another fucking podcast because

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<v Speaker 1>Still fucked up the last podcast.

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<v Speaker 5>It was a really great podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>We had Pete on, we had Still on, we had

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<v Speaker 1>Brett red. It was like a whole no because they

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<v Speaker 1>went all the way over there. They never come in exactly,

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<v Speaker 1>and we had like a whole No Ceilings family podcast

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<v Speaker 1>and y'all can fucking think Stell he fucked it up

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<v Speaker 1>talking shit. So I'm just trying to figure out, like

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<v Speaker 1>I saw a podcast today that I sent to Pete,

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<v Speaker 1>Britt and Red in our little group DM and the

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<v Speaker 1>pod was about like it was a dude just sitting

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<v Speaker 1>up there talking shit about women, and I'm like, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>so tired of niggas making podcasts talking shit about girls.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh what does she bring to the table besides pussy?

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<v Speaker 2>Bro?

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<v Speaker 1>Stop saying that. Like I started, I swear on Olivia's soul. Bro,

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<v Speaker 1>I started to go in that man's comments and say, well,

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<v Speaker 1>fuck with a nigga. Bro, stop talking about girls on

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<v Speaker 1>your pocket like it's one thing for us. We have

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<v Speaker 1>nuanced conversations because about women. Right, We'll go into a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of different thoughts. We never take the shallow rout

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<v Speaker 1>of oh, you know, women expect you to buy everything

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<v Speaker 1>and then they.

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<v Speaker 5>Just think they can give you put Bro, what are

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<v Speaker 5>we doing here?

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<v Speaker 1>Like, if all of you men hate women so bad, bro,

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<v Speaker 1>get a dick, Go fuck a man, like the fuck.

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<v Speaker 1>If you think men are so much cooler, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying, then go get you a man, because

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's the point.

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<v Speaker 5>I think you just don't know you like men.

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<v Speaker 2>Or just was kind of crazy man, because a man

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<v Speaker 2>is spending most of his free time chasing a woman,

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<v Speaker 2>but then he'll spend the other half of this time

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<v Speaker 2>critiquing him in every way, yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Or complaining when he got her.

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<v Speaker 3>It'd be like me spending all my money to go

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<v Speaker 3>hunt Elk, bag and elk bring back the Elk costs

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<v Speaker 3>one thousand some dollars to go through all that shit,

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<v Speaker 3>and then I finally get it and just can play God,

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<v Speaker 3>this son of a bitch Elk is so fucking heavy.

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<v Speaker 4>Why did I come up here and do all this bullshit?

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<v Speaker 2>You know what? I think the biggest thing. I think

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<v Speaker 2>the biggest thing, and it's gonna sound crazy and lane,

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<v Speaker 2>but I think it all comes down to communication. I

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<v Speaker 2>think that's as men sometimes really have a difficult time

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<v Speaker 2>communicating with women.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if an issue of community. I think

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<v Speaker 1>we did a pod and I explain this to y'all.

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<v Speaker 1>See when we talk about women on those sellers, me

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<v Speaker 1>and Peter Dogg or even me and the girls like

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<v Speaker 1>I have came to the conclusion that we are we

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<v Speaker 1>bear the ultimate mass of the responsibility. That's not to

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<v Speaker 1>say women don't have no responsibility, but like Pete has

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<v Speaker 1>said and coined on this podcast, women Living in the

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<v Speaker 1>world where there's no consequence, there's no accountability. But it's

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<v Speaker 1>also because we live in this Page York on society

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<v Speaker 1>that just it makes sense. It's nothing personal, it's just

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<v Speaker 1>how it go. So you can't hold women to the

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<v Speaker 1>same standards. It's like I was telling you, what's going

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<v Speaker 1>on with you, big bro? It's like, bro, like, what

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<v Speaker 1>are you doing? Like are you thinking this motherfucker is

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<v Speaker 1>going to admit that they're wrong? Nigga, what the fuck

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<v Speaker 1>are you doing?

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<v Speaker 2>Like? You what?

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<v Speaker 5>Come on?

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<v Speaker 2>Man?

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<v Speaker 1>You've been dealing with women twice as long as me,

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<v Speaker 1>and I know I know better, So I know you

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<v Speaker 1>know better. You think a woman gonna look in the

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<v Speaker 1>mirror and say to themselves, now what I messed up?

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<v Speaker 5>That ain't never happened?

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<v Speaker 2>Still nothing the whole time I've been married, and I've

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<v Speaker 2>been married for thirty.

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<v Speaker 5>You know what to marry years mineus the marriage your mother, Yo,

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<v Speaker 5>Ma could be wrong. It's two left shoes. She barely

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<v Speaker 5>gonna rub you and be like you know what, Uh, Troy,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm so I screwed up. No, she's not. She's gonna

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<v Speaker 5>do something you like as in a sign of an apology.

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<v Speaker 2>She I'm gonna tell you something, I probably got the

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<v Speaker 2>greatest and most patient step there in the world. Good dude.

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<v Speaker 2>I've seen my mama actually antagonize that man talk mess

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<v Speaker 2>and then when I tell her, Mom, leave that man alone,

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<v Speaker 2>she'd tell me to shut up. A mama own business.

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<v Speaker 1>Here, Like she was showing you, she is preparing you

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<v Speaker 1>for the way of the world. She was preparing you.

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<v Speaker 1>She knew watching his Star Wars.

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<v Speaker 2>A man that are watching Star Trek, you know they

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<v Speaker 2>watch Star Trek like they just to rerun the star track.

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<v Speaker 2>He'd be sitting there so peaceful, and she would just

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<v Speaker 2>go in on him about something and he'd be sitting there,

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<v Speaker 2>drinking his coffee and just being just as nice as

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<v Speaker 2>mild manner. And I just look at her antagonize this

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<v Speaker 2>man and say, Mama, why are you bothering him? Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>that don't bother him. You be quiet of mind your

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<v Speaker 2>own business.

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<v Speaker 1>That's just how it go, and there's nothing wrong with it.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's just weird when I see these guys with

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<v Speaker 1>these podcasts.

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<v Speaker 5>And they'd be like, when you bring just about shut up,

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<v Speaker 5>shut the fuck up, Shut the fuck up.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what the meals bro. A lot of podcasts

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<v Speaker 2>is or you know, gee, we actually put a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of time into what we're doing. I think people think

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<v Speaker 2>this stuff is easy. Sometimes. I think we take time

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<v Speaker 2>into thinking that when we go talk about I know,

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<v Speaker 2>I actually have show notes and have a like a

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<v Speaker 2>thing what we want to talk about. I think people

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<v Speaker 2>just going here and just run their mouths sometimes.

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<v Speaker 3>Man, I think that there's a lot of Drake style

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<v Speaker 3>podcasters in the sense that they just go and what's

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<v Speaker 3>the top trending topic on Twitter or amongst podcasts, and

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<v Speaker 3>let me just give my shtick about that. And like,

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<v Speaker 3>as a comedian, it's very parallel to go into a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of comedy shows and you just see whoever the

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<v Speaker 3>hot comedian is. Believe me, you're gonna see six upstart opener,

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<v Speaker 3>shitthead idiot comedians trying to do a knockoff version of

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<v Speaker 3>Kevin Hart or before that it was a knockoff version

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<v Speaker 3>of Martin or whatever, the same fucking goddamn jokes. Like

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<v Speaker 3>that was the one thing I didn't like about original

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<v Speaker 3>kings of comedy. Everybody had a Titanic joke. It was

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<v Speaker 3>the same joke, and you guys are at the same

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<v Speaker 3>fucking stage, but you get kind of this, it's cheaper.

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<v Speaker 4>And easier to copy.

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<v Speaker 3>The guy Who's right, it's easier to make Pepsi than

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<v Speaker 3>it is to invent a goddamn whole.

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<v Speaker 5>New drink Coca Cola. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So one thing being this is our fourth season, and

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<v Speaker 1>I know we're gonna have a fifth season. I think

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<v Speaker 1>I've always went out of my way to make sure

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<v Speaker 1>we don't turn into.

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<v Speaker 5>A gossip show, like a gossip type of podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I'm not mad at that because right now I'm talking,

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<v Speaker 1>it's still about kind of creating that for Friday and Monday,

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<v Speaker 1>where you know, Monday we could talk about everything that

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<v Speaker 1>happened you No, so Friday we could talk about everything

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<v Speaker 1>that happened through the week, and Monday we could talk

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<v Speaker 1>about everything that's supposed to happen during the week and.

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<v Speaker 2>Fun that it's gotchap Bruck think we're kind of delivering news.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, no, because it's the idea that I have to that.

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<v Speaker 1>The idea I have for that is it is a gossip.

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<v Speaker 1>It's based on the news. But like, right, there's a

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<v Speaker 1>woman who how I say this is a woman who

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<v Speaker 1>reads us the news and it's five of us trying

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<v Speaker 1>to give an our opinion on the news. So it

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<v Speaker 1>is a gossip show, and that's fine. I'm not knocking

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<v Speaker 1>a gossip show. Men need of you, men, need of you.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, men of America need their own version of

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<v Speaker 1>the view, right. But I'm saying, you know what it

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<v Speaker 1>is like she shit, the woman should be reporting the

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<v Speaker 1>news to us, and then we're giving our opinion on

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<v Speaker 1>the news. But that shit start being something that's happening

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<v Speaker 1>every day. The reason I don't like that on those ceilings,

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<v Speaker 1>like when you always ask me to talk about what's

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<v Speaker 1>going on currently, I'm like, because somebody may hear this podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, this could be six days away from the news,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's like it's just like Pete saying, the joke

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<v Speaker 1>becomes redundant, the content becomes redundant.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't want to.

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<v Speaker 1>Base this off of my personality being so swell everybody

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<v Speaker 1>wants my opinion on it, because there are certain things

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<v Speaker 1>that happened that I know people care about my opinion on.

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<v Speaker 1>But I also try to wrap the conversation in something

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<v Speaker 1>that's you know, like it could be bury treasure. You

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<v Speaker 1>could find it, you know, twenty years from now, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's still like a bury treasure. It's even more priceless

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<v Speaker 1>than it was when we first recorded the podcast.

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<v Speaker 3>I have an idea for that, like we should we

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<v Speaker 3>could call that sequence of the show the jump in,

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<v Speaker 3>because everyone from our podcast crew was presented a new

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<v Speaker 3>topic and we all just beat the shit out of it.

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<v Speaker 5>That's what I was saying.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, so, but that's to me what the DSB news

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<v Speaker 1>should be, the Digital Soapbox new or ds and news

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<v Speaker 1>should be.

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<v Speaker 5>It should be a Friday around the Horn.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Friday where we talked exactly like maybe an octagon,

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<v Speaker 1>the girl in the middle, an octagon, somebody the top, left, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're just talking about that specific factor of the news.

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<v Speaker 1>Friday should be about what's happened during the week, and

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<v Speaker 1>Monday should be about the Monday news rights should be

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<v Speaker 1>about what's prepared to happen during the week or what

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<v Speaker 1>happened over the weekend, and then everything for Monday going

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<v Speaker 1>into Friday, like the conversation ahead time.

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<v Speaker 2>I like that as a departure from what we normally

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<v Speaker 2>do because you made a key point earlier. Most of

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<v Speaker 2>the times when we do our podcast, they can't be

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<v Speaker 2>based on current events because we would always be behind

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<v Speaker 2>the news cycle. Kind of so we always have to

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<v Speaker 2>have like really kind of evergreen subject matter when we

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<v Speaker 2>do our podcast, to where whether it's a person that

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<v Speaker 2>here's our podcast for the first time a year from

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<v Speaker 2>now or they here tomorrow is kind of makes sense,

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<v Speaker 2>you feel what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think we have to move to develop a

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<v Speaker 1>show for DSN that's a news based show that's daily.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we I couldn't get planning them to understand

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<v Speaker 1>they roll in that, I couldn't get derailing them to

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<v Speaker 1>understand their role in that as a live streaming program

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<v Speaker 1>like bro, y'all need to be really trying to work

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<v Speaker 1>towards doing.

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<v Speaker 5>This every day.

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<v Speaker 1>They looked at me crazy, and I'm like, Okay, well,

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<v Speaker 1>if y'all, if the Homie's not gonna do it, shit,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll do it ourselves. We'll make our own new show.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't want to be over committed. I'm like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>let's commit. So we'll start two days a week, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and then as we get the first sign of good

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<v Speaker 1>business happening, and we'll schedule this motherfucker Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday,

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<v Speaker 1>Thursday and Friday. People need a hip hop perspective on

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<v Speaker 1>the news.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly, And I think that's where Joe Buttons and

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<v Speaker 2>Academics and those guys did a good job. What was

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<v Speaker 2>the show the Complex had?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, but even then that was once every week or

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<v Speaker 5>two weeks or something.

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<v Speaker 2>But no, I think they might have came on like

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of times out of the week.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, but I'm talking about every fucking day.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it could be things GC. What the problem is.

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<v Speaker 2>It doesn't have to be an hour loan thing. It

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<v Speaker 2>can be a thirty minute thing every day, thirty minutes,

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<v Speaker 2>thirty forty minutes, you know, And I think if you

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<v Speaker 2>do that, man, you it can become the source, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the source of all the information for people in our community.

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<v Speaker 5>Sure, but that.

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<v Speaker 2>News right now is not catered towards us. It's like

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<v Speaker 2>it doesn't talk about stuff really it's important to us,

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<v Speaker 2>to be honest with you, Well, it.

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<v Speaker 1>Is news in the sense because whoever we choose as

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<v Speaker 1>the woman in the center would be reading the consistent news.

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<v Speaker 1>But it becomes more of our of hip hop's take

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<v Speaker 1>on the news right how we see it, and us

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<v Speaker 1>talking about what's going on in our world or things

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<v Speaker 1>that matter to our world.

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<v Speaker 5>You know what I'm saying. That's the catch and it's

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<v Speaker 5>nothing wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>If we devote an hour to it every day, some

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<v Speaker 1>days it should go three hours.

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<v Speaker 5>Listen, if you're.

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<v Speaker 1>Asking people to finance your ability to sit around and talk,

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<v Speaker 1>sit around and talk.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna tell you that these problem meals and me

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<v Speaker 2>and you, I can say you too, because we've kind

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<v Speaker 2>of been in this, Peter too. We've been doing this

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<v Speaker 2>when it wasn't part. We've been doing this before it

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<v Speaker 2>became FOP. I think people look at it now as

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<v Speaker 2>a money grab, like it's a money grab. You can't

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<v Speaker 2>look at this as a money grab. I really believe

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<v Speaker 2>that you have to enjoy podcasting in order to do this,

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<v Speaker 2>even once a week, it's a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>What's funny is I struggle to really enjoy podcasting right

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<v Speaker 1>because to me, like I don't like selling the business

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<v Speaker 1>of idea, Like I don't want to always find myself

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<v Speaker 1>on one exact like life has nuances, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean. I don't always want to take like if

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<v Speaker 1>somebody snitched, like it could be nuances to it. So

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to have to sell a gangsteris lifestyle

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<v Speaker 1>where if it looked like it's snitch and I need

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<v Speaker 1>to be on the other end of it, I would

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<v Speaker 1>like to investigate the thought and to me, that's always

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<v Speaker 1>been a setback in my career. Like there's a level

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<v Speaker 1>of like I deal with everything for real, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>selling people an image that I don't understand. I understand

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<v Speaker 1>what it's like to really be a crip or a

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<v Speaker 1>gang member and the nuances of it from all of

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<v Speaker 1>my older homies and the people that I look up

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<v Speaker 1>to that came before me, and the coaching kind of

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<v Speaker 1>why I would.

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<v Speaker 3>Think that like podcasting would benefit you because it's not

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<v Speaker 3>confined to a short finite you know, headline piece of

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<v Speaker 3>a couple of minutes.

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<v Speaker 4>You actually have the opportunity in.

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<v Speaker 3>A long form hour to dive into nuance and to

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<v Speaker 3>dive into devil's advocacy and counter narratives and perspectives and

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<v Speaker 3>things like that.

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<v Speaker 1>And see that's not and to me, like, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think that's what I try to do as a human.

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<v Speaker 1>Like that there was I remember still was going through

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<v Speaker 1>the pace calling me a contrarian. I'm like, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>really a contrarian. Like my problem is, I'm just sober

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<v Speaker 1>all the time, and I listen all the time.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm listening to you.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, well, I think like if it's pretty obvious.

0:22:51.359 --> 0:22:54.000
<v Speaker 3>I mean, you've opened the show saying you don't like

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<v Speaker 3>to talk, So you are perceived as a contrarian by

0:22:57.760 --> 0:23:01.520
<v Speaker 3>listeners because you sit around listening, and you get pushed

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<v Speaker 3>to a point where it becomes you become compelled to

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<v Speaker 3>talk when everybody else in the rooms saying the same

0:23:06.440 --> 0:23:08.320
<v Speaker 3>stupid shit, and you gotta correct it.

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<v Speaker 4>And now you're a contrier because I.

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<v Speaker 3>Repeat the echo chamber all day to the other interest saying,

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<v Speaker 3>but when it gets to a point where you have

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<v Speaker 3>to speak up, it's now no longer optional.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh he's a contrarian.

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<v Speaker 1>Say that thing then, and I'm not going to rupt you.

0:23:23.160 --> 0:23:26.720
<v Speaker 1>That's exactly my plot. That's been my problem in life

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<v Speaker 1>since I was four. The whole thing again, what happened?

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<v Speaker 4>Take it from the top.

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<v Speaker 3>So we opened the show with Glasses saying that he

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't like talking, and therefore he doesn't do a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of it. So if he's in a room and everybody's

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<v Speaker 3>stating the obvious back and forth in a circular jerk

0:23:46.359 --> 0:23:49.520
<v Speaker 3>echo chamber, he'll just sit there until he gets to

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<v Speaker 3>a point where the most important.

0:23:51.760 --> 0:23:54.040
<v Speaker 4>Fact that they're all missing has to be addressed.

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<v Speaker 3>So he then becomes compelled to speak, and he speaks

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<v Speaker 3>in a way to say the opposite of everybody else

0:23:59.280 --> 0:24:02.800
<v Speaker 3>is saying, when they're always feeding off each other incorrectly.

0:24:03.240 --> 0:24:05.879
<v Speaker 3>And then therefore, because he chooses only to speak up

0:24:05.880 --> 0:24:08.520
<v Speaker 3>when it's a buddly necessary because of his dislikee for talking,

0:24:08.680 --> 0:24:15.120
<v Speaker 3>he becomes perceived thereby as an as a contrary exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was so irritated because I'll be like, I'll

0:24:18.520 --> 0:24:20.920
<v Speaker 1>be trying my best, bro, I'll be like, all right, don't.

0:24:21.040 --> 0:24:22.040
<v Speaker 5>Get involved in that.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't get involved in that, and they'll just keep saying

0:24:24.720 --> 0:24:26.960
<v Speaker 1>some bullshit and it's like telephone because they go from

0:24:27.200 --> 0:24:32.040
<v Speaker 1>bullshit level one to bushit level twelve. Yeah, and it

0:24:32.200 --> 0:24:34.520
<v Speaker 1>just be bushit on top of bus shit on top

0:24:34.560 --> 0:24:37.640
<v Speaker 1>of bullshit. Man, just be saying it like a motherfucker.

0:24:37.720 --> 0:24:40.679
<v Speaker 1>Was on Twitter like, yeah, you know Drake, would you know?

0:24:40.760 --> 0:24:42.680
<v Speaker 1>He said, do you want to fight? And like ten

0:24:42.720 --> 0:24:45.600
<v Speaker 1>people said this. Drake said, you know, if he you know,

0:24:45.880 --> 0:24:48.480
<v Speaker 1>la dudes, y'all West Coast, y'all run phades, and he

0:24:48.520 --> 0:24:51.480
<v Speaker 1>would run his fade. I'm like, bro, Like it took

0:24:51.600 --> 0:24:56.800
<v Speaker 1>ten tweets and finally it happened, Bro, Buff slapped the shit.

0:24:56.600 --> 0:24:57.080
<v Speaker 5>Out of him.

0:24:57.600 --> 0:25:00.440
<v Speaker 1>This dude pissed on him. He is not the guy

0:25:00.800 --> 0:25:04.240
<v Speaker 1>running Phades. And now everybody's fucking mad at me. And

0:25:04.280 --> 0:25:07.000
<v Speaker 1>it's like, y'all like, y'all don't know this motherfucker and

0:25:07.119 --> 0:25:10.320
<v Speaker 1>got bullied and shit and fucked over and he talking about.

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<v Speaker 5>Fighting and y'all actually believe in this shit.

0:25:13.000 --> 0:25:14.960
<v Speaker 1>And then I'll just be right there and guess what now,

0:25:15.000 --> 0:25:16.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm public asshole number one.

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<v Speaker 5>Story of my life. My dad and them would be

0:25:20.560 --> 0:25:21.760
<v Speaker 5>saying some shit and I'd.

0:25:21.560 --> 0:25:27.960
<v Speaker 1>Be like, like, people think I like Trump to to

0:25:28.200 --> 0:25:30.399
<v Speaker 1>fucking like just to be different. I'm like, bro, I

0:25:30.400 --> 0:25:33.720
<v Speaker 1>don't fucking care. I'm telling you who's entertaining. I have

0:25:33.920 --> 0:25:37.160
<v Speaker 1>zero faith in the person that runs this country. There

0:25:37.160 --> 0:25:40.359
<v Speaker 1>has not been a president who has done anything great

0:25:40.600 --> 0:25:46.200
<v Speaker 1>for black people since Abraham Lincoln. I'm not saying other

0:25:46.320 --> 0:25:50.080
<v Speaker 1>presidents having done things, but they do it for minorities.

0:25:50.440 --> 0:25:52.240
<v Speaker 1>That means we at the back end of that, the

0:25:52.359 --> 0:25:55.760
<v Speaker 1>last president in this country who did something for black people,

0:25:56.000 --> 0:25:57.480
<v Speaker 1>what was fucking Abraham Lincoln?

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<v Speaker 2>You know what? And I really feel like this, gee,

0:26:06.160 --> 0:26:08.960
<v Speaker 2>I think a lot of times, especially with the conversations

0:26:08.960 --> 0:26:11.280
<v Speaker 2>that we have on our downtime. I don't think those

0:26:11.320 --> 0:26:15.480
<v Speaker 2>conversations could ever be public because I think we're actually

0:26:15.480 --> 0:26:18.040
<v Speaker 2>a lot more intelligent than every motherfucker that's out there

0:26:18.160 --> 0:26:19.920
<v Speaker 2>just talking, just running their months. A lot of people

0:26:19.920 --> 0:26:21.439
<v Speaker 2>out here just talking just to be talking.

0:26:22.840 --> 0:26:23.520
<v Speaker 5>I hope, man.

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<v Speaker 2>I would say so, man, because if you look at

0:26:26.960 --> 0:26:29.639
<v Speaker 2>some of these guys, especially and not that you know,

0:26:29.760 --> 0:26:32.200
<v Speaker 2>be the digging horse, but going back to the thing

0:26:32.240 --> 0:26:35.720
<v Speaker 2>with dot No Boy from Canada, right, just to hear

0:26:35.840 --> 0:26:38.760
<v Speaker 2>some of these different people's perspectives on it, it was

0:26:38.920 --> 0:26:41.000
<v Speaker 2>just so personal, and I would tell people it's not

0:26:41.080 --> 0:26:42.480
<v Speaker 2>that damn serious.

0:26:43.280 --> 0:26:46.160
<v Speaker 3>The only way that I think that they're smart is

0:26:47.240 --> 0:26:50.040
<v Speaker 3>at that low level of well, I can assess the

0:26:50.119 --> 0:26:51.960
<v Speaker 3>audience in the room. So I'm just going to say

0:26:51.960 --> 0:26:53.600
<v Speaker 3>the thing that stirs them up the most because it

0:26:53.640 --> 0:27:00.680
<v Speaker 3>benefits me the most. But as far as like robustly intellectual.

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<v Speaker 2>No, well, some of these people have really I think

0:27:07.080 --> 0:27:10.000
<v Speaker 2>a lot of people, man, the thing we're not looking

0:27:10.000 --> 0:27:12.439
<v Speaker 2>at a lot of these people have mental problems. I

0:27:12.520 --> 0:27:15.280
<v Speaker 2>saw a lady that had maybe, and you see these

0:27:15.320 --> 0:27:18.400
<v Speaker 2>accounts that have like four followers maybe and they're following

0:27:18.440 --> 0:27:21.320
<v Speaker 2>six thousand people. But they're just literally if you look

0:27:21.320 --> 0:27:23.960
<v Speaker 2>at their page, they just talking mess to everybody. It's

0:27:24.040 --> 0:27:26.440
<v Speaker 2>like almost they want to be heard, so they go

0:27:26.600 --> 0:27:29.240
<v Speaker 2>say the most just acid nine shit. Ever, they don't

0:27:29.240 --> 0:27:32.320
<v Speaker 2>care what they say. I saw some lady say that,

0:27:32.440 --> 0:27:38.520
<v Speaker 2>oh your career. You get these people talking about Glasses career,

0:27:38.520 --> 0:27:40.800
<v Speaker 2>and he's probably more accomplished than ninety eight percent of

0:27:40.800 --> 0:27:43.760
<v Speaker 2>the people on this planet. Right, this man actually makes

0:27:43.800 --> 0:27:47.240
<v Speaker 2>a living doing something he loves, right, which is very

0:27:47.480 --> 0:27:51.080
<v Speaker 2>difficult to accomplish. And you will see somebody man that's

0:27:51.119 --> 0:27:55.200
<v Speaker 2>working at that's maybe working at Burger King or something

0:27:55.280 --> 0:27:57.199
<v Speaker 2>like that. Not that there's anything wrong with that, but

0:27:57.240 --> 0:27:59.920
<v Speaker 2>they telling him about his career. And you got a

0:28:00.040 --> 0:28:02.240
<v Speaker 2>look at these people, like are these people fucking insane?

0:28:03.600 --> 0:28:07.359
<v Speaker 1>What's crazy is in their mind they think I'm telling

0:28:07.359 --> 0:28:10.760
<v Speaker 1>another artist about their career, Like as if I have

0:28:11.200 --> 0:28:14.600
<v Speaker 1>criticism towards Drake's career, I'm like the fuck, like I'm

0:28:14.680 --> 0:28:18.280
<v Speaker 1>judging a rap battle, Like who the fuck can talk

0:28:18.320 --> 0:28:20.520
<v Speaker 1>about what this man was able to accomplish in the

0:28:20.600 --> 0:28:21.320
<v Speaker 1>music business.

0:28:21.600 --> 0:28:24.760
<v Speaker 5>But because of that, they feel like if you have any.

0:28:26.160 --> 0:28:30.080
<v Speaker 1>Gall about what you're talking about, It's like they want

0:28:30.119 --> 0:28:32.280
<v Speaker 1>to compare you to them, and I'm like, well, nigga,

0:28:32.320 --> 0:28:35.199
<v Speaker 1>I'm not comparing myself to Drake. I'm not talking about

0:28:35.760 --> 0:28:38.120
<v Speaker 1>Drake's success or what he's doing. I'm talking about him

0:28:38.160 --> 0:28:41.560
<v Speaker 1>battling a friend of mine. And it's so weird because

0:28:41.560 --> 0:28:43.520
<v Speaker 1>people will talk shit to me and this is what

0:28:43.600 --> 0:28:46.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm talking about Pete. It'll be a dude talking shit

0:28:46.600 --> 0:28:49.760
<v Speaker 1>to me, like, yeah, glasses, you're glazing Kendrick, And I'm like,

0:28:49.840 --> 0:28:52.560
<v Speaker 1>this is my friend. I am supporting. This is my

0:28:52.680 --> 0:28:56.479
<v Speaker 1>real friend that I'm supporting in a battle, and like,

0:28:57.000 --> 0:28:58.880
<v Speaker 1>and it's people who don't know so they don't know.

0:28:58.920 --> 0:29:01.400
<v Speaker 1>They like, you don't even know him, first off, that's

0:29:01.400 --> 0:29:03.680
<v Speaker 1>the funny. That's the funniest thing. Or you don't even

0:29:03.760 --> 0:29:04.440
<v Speaker 1>know him.

0:29:04.480 --> 0:29:08.040
<v Speaker 5>So first off, I know both of these guys. Part two.

0:29:08.920 --> 0:29:11.400
<v Speaker 1>One of them is really my close friend. The other

0:29:11.480 --> 0:29:15.240
<v Speaker 1>one I know I know decent enough too. You don't

0:29:15.320 --> 0:29:17.719
<v Speaker 1>know either one of them, So how would you take us,

0:29:23.360 --> 0:29:26.520
<v Speaker 1>Like you're talking shit to me because I'm supporting Pete.

0:29:26.600 --> 0:29:30.080
<v Speaker 5>I'm Kendrick is my friend. That is my friend, Like

0:29:30.120 --> 0:29:30.600
<v Speaker 5>this is mine.

0:29:30.600 --> 0:29:34.120
<v Speaker 4>He's objectively winning the goddamn thing. You'd have to be

0:29:34.240 --> 0:29:35.720
<v Speaker 4>really streaking your back.

0:29:35.800 --> 0:29:39.920
<v Speaker 5>Otherwise, Pete, he's my friend. He's not even like a

0:29:40.040 --> 0:29:43.200
<v Speaker 5>rapper like a rapper, he's my friend, like.

0:29:43.160 --> 0:29:44.200
<v Speaker 2>He's the homeboy.

0:29:44.400 --> 0:29:47.280
<v Speaker 5>He's the homeboy, like.

0:29:47.960 --> 0:29:49.360
<v Speaker 4>He's close enough a friend to you.

0:29:49.560 --> 0:29:55.960
<v Speaker 3>I know this indirectly, Me and Malcolm and Lucky Rogers

0:29:56.200 --> 0:29:59.520
<v Speaker 3>went to his house and Carson like ten years ago,

0:29:59.760 --> 0:30:01.480
<v Speaker 3>so I know, if he's.

0:30:01.240 --> 0:30:03.360
<v Speaker 4>There, then you know him, right so.

0:30:04.480 --> 0:30:07.440
<v Speaker 1>And then the other guy he's competing with, Drake, I

0:30:07.640 --> 0:30:08.440
<v Speaker 1>know him too.

0:30:09.680 --> 0:30:11.280
<v Speaker 3>You were sight at the same time, right at the

0:30:11.320 --> 0:30:11.600
<v Speaker 3>same t.

0:30:15.920 --> 0:30:16.000
<v Speaker 5>Is.

0:30:16.080 --> 0:30:18.760
<v Speaker 2>All of this stuff is pretty public information that people

0:30:18.880 --> 0:30:20.920
<v Speaker 2>just took their time to go do the research before

0:30:20.960 --> 0:30:24.560
<v Speaker 2>they said they were looking. Oh well yeah, glasses obviously

0:30:24.680 --> 0:30:27.640
<v Speaker 2>know it was this guy. And it's like, and I'll

0:30:27.680 --> 0:30:29.800
<v Speaker 2>never get into that man because somebody told me that

0:30:29.880 --> 0:30:34.160
<v Speaker 2>one time, and I got so many VHS taps, those

0:30:34.160 --> 0:30:36.680
<v Speaker 2>little DVR taps with me and Dot and Jay rocking

0:30:36.760 --> 0:30:39.160
<v Speaker 2>them over there, messed around the studio and constant Carson.

0:30:39.400 --> 0:30:42.240
<v Speaker 2>But I feel like those those moments are personal in

0:30:42.320 --> 0:30:44.360
<v Speaker 2>between us and time. I'm not going to ever take

0:30:44.400 --> 0:30:46.800
<v Speaker 2>those moments and try to kind of like cash in

0:30:46.840 --> 0:30:49.640
<v Speaker 2>on them just to prove get cool points. With people

0:30:49.640 --> 0:30:52.840
<v Speaker 2>that don't matter. Oh you don't think I know him?

0:30:52.840 --> 0:30:53.080
<v Speaker 5>Cool?

0:30:53.240 --> 0:30:58.080
<v Speaker 2>Whatever? You know what I mean? People just talk to again,

0:30:58.160 --> 0:31:02.240
<v Speaker 2>people just talking to be talking, just saying dumb shit,

0:31:02.400 --> 0:31:03.040
<v Speaker 2>just to be saying it.

0:31:03.080 --> 0:31:06.560
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes all they want to do is Google, like it's

0:31:06.560 --> 0:31:09.160
<v Speaker 1>been people who have to he like, you're still not

0:31:09.200 --> 0:31:10.160
<v Speaker 1>gonna get that feature?

0:31:10.680 --> 0:31:14.200
<v Speaker 5>What the fifteenth feature? The fuck are you talking about?

0:31:18.120 --> 0:31:22.360
<v Speaker 2>That's funny, the fifteenth or twentieth one.

0:31:22.760 --> 0:31:23.760
<v Speaker 5>I don't know the fuck.

0:31:23.840 --> 0:31:25.440
<v Speaker 1>How many fucking more features you want me to have

0:31:25.480 --> 0:31:28.440
<v Speaker 1>with this motherfucker? And people feel like Drake, I'm like, dog,

0:31:28.800 --> 0:31:31.120
<v Speaker 1>you don't even I don't want a feature with him.

0:31:31.680 --> 0:31:33.560
<v Speaker 1>That's not to say I don't think Drake is an

0:31:33.560 --> 0:31:38.760
<v Speaker 1>incredible U performing artist. I don't want to rap with Drake,

0:31:39.760 --> 0:31:40.360
<v Speaker 1>and I think it.

0:31:41.240 --> 0:31:44.320
<v Speaker 2>You remember this, and I don't think people know. I

0:31:44.360 --> 0:31:46.600
<v Speaker 2>remember you were signed the Cash Money and you cussed

0:31:46.640 --> 0:31:49.280
<v Speaker 2>me and Pooh out in the restaurant one day because

0:31:49.320 --> 0:31:51.760
<v Speaker 2>we were telling you, hey, man, why don't you just

0:31:51.880 --> 0:31:53.960
<v Speaker 2>move down to Miami and go on the road with

0:31:54.000 --> 0:31:59.640
<v Speaker 2>that Drake dude and Nicki Minaj and Bird way better

0:32:00.680 --> 0:32:03.560
<v Speaker 2>And you said, that's not where I'm trying to do

0:32:03.600 --> 0:32:05.440
<v Speaker 2>with my career. You know, at the time, you said

0:32:05.480 --> 0:32:06.720
<v Speaker 2>that's not what I'm trying to do, and you was

0:32:06.760 --> 0:32:07.640
<v Speaker 2>real upset about that.

0:32:08.120 --> 0:32:14.200
<v Speaker 1>Bro, I cussed out pun problem trail ed, Bro. I

0:32:14.240 --> 0:32:17.440
<v Speaker 1>am certain with who I and what I want my

0:32:17.560 --> 0:32:20.360
<v Speaker 1>brand to be. Even back then, I knew I didn't

0:32:20.400 --> 0:32:23.080
<v Speaker 1>want to mix it with him. That's not to say

0:32:23.160 --> 0:32:26.200
<v Speaker 1>anything's wrong, and I'm not knocking nobody who does want

0:32:26.240 --> 0:32:30.720
<v Speaker 1>to mix their brand with him. But honestly, Bro, yes,

0:32:31.440 --> 0:32:33.960
<v Speaker 1>what I if I did a record with Drake? Would

0:32:34.000 --> 0:32:36.480
<v Speaker 1>I be more successful than I am now?

0:32:36.640 --> 0:32:39.360
<v Speaker 5>You know? Business wise? Sure, I'd probably be making more

0:32:39.400 --> 0:32:40.320
<v Speaker 5>money if me.

0:32:40.520 --> 0:32:43.000
<v Speaker 1>If I went and kind of got with Drake and

0:32:43.200 --> 0:32:45.680
<v Speaker 1>was like okay i' and I just kind of got

0:32:45.720 --> 0:32:48.280
<v Speaker 1>with the program, would I be making more money?

0:32:48.320 --> 0:32:50.240
<v Speaker 5>Sure? But do I need to make more money?

0:32:50.240 --> 0:32:50.280
<v Speaker 3>No?

0:32:51.160 --> 0:32:53.360
<v Speaker 5>Do I take care of myself find? Sure? Do I

0:32:53.400 --> 0:32:55.880
<v Speaker 5>have low riders and shit? Yes? Do I got shit?

0:32:55.960 --> 0:32:58.880
<v Speaker 5>I like? Yes? Am I struggling to take care of

0:32:58.920 --> 0:32:59.479
<v Speaker 5>my family?

0:32:59.560 --> 0:32:59.640
<v Speaker 2>No?

0:33:00.320 --> 0:33:02.520
<v Speaker 5>I mean, am I struggling to do right by my people?

0:33:02.600 --> 0:33:02.640
<v Speaker 4>Know?

0:33:03.240 --> 0:33:05.680
<v Speaker 5>Can I have more opportunities to help more people? Yes?

0:33:05.840 --> 0:33:08.520
<v Speaker 1>But guess what if I need to take more time

0:33:08.640 --> 0:33:10.680
<v Speaker 1>so I could look in the mirror every day.

0:33:10.520 --> 0:33:13.000
<v Speaker 5>With my brand and be proud of who I am.

0:33:13.160 --> 0:33:16.479
<v Speaker 1>I'll do it. Everybody else can kiss my ass. I mean,

0:33:16.480 --> 0:33:18.240
<v Speaker 1>you'll figure it out when you fucking figure it out.

0:33:18.320 --> 0:33:22.440
<v Speaker 1>But I don't want to dilute my brand. Like I

0:33:22.480 --> 0:33:25.040
<v Speaker 1>don't want that, you know what I'm saying. Like, I'm

0:33:25.120 --> 0:33:28.920
<v Speaker 1>proud of surviving the shit I survive. I'm proud of

0:33:28.960 --> 0:33:31.400
<v Speaker 1>the people that survived it with me. I'm proud of

0:33:31.880 --> 0:33:34.640
<v Speaker 1>the representation. I'm proud when I go on the boulevard

0:33:34.680 --> 0:33:38.200
<v Speaker 1>and people, you know, see me in the Gangsters.

0:33:38.240 --> 0:33:39.560
<v Speaker 5>I was at that We was at that.

0:33:39.600 --> 0:33:42.640
<v Speaker 1>Party and somebody say, Man, you the last real nigga left.

0:33:42.920 --> 0:33:46.280
<v Speaker 1>That drives me, You know what I mean, if anything

0:33:46.480 --> 0:33:49.200
<v Speaker 1>mattered to me. The bank account don't drive me. I

0:33:49.320 --> 0:33:52.280
<v Speaker 1>get it. Shout out to everybody that the bank account

0:33:52.320 --> 0:33:55.240
<v Speaker 1>is driving them. You know that's probably why you and

0:33:55.240 --> 0:33:57.320
<v Speaker 1>puff is cool. You might be taking penis if you

0:33:57.400 --> 0:34:00.000
<v Speaker 1>let the bank account drive you. I'm not mad at it.

0:34:00.320 --> 0:34:03.640
<v Speaker 1>The bank account don't drive me. What drives me is

0:34:03.680 --> 0:34:07.120
<v Speaker 1>the ability to look in the mirror and say to myself,

0:34:07.280 --> 0:34:10.480
<v Speaker 1>I did it the correct way. I didn't sell it out,

0:34:10.800 --> 0:34:14.160
<v Speaker 1>and I have never sold this shit out never everybody else,

0:34:14.719 --> 0:34:17.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, they going, I'm not mad at them. Money

0:34:17.760 --> 0:34:20.560
<v Speaker 1>matters to people. It don't matter enough to me to

0:34:20.560 --> 0:34:22.080
<v Speaker 1>where I'm gonna just sell out my brains.

0:34:25.040 --> 0:34:27.960
<v Speaker 4>I got a question, like, this's the industry question, like

0:34:28.680 --> 0:34:29.840
<v Speaker 4>for every.

0:34:30.920 --> 0:34:36.080
<v Speaker 3>Like that's closing up to Drake, is not a guarantee.

0:34:36.120 --> 0:34:38.319
<v Speaker 3>How many rappers were on that song, Like the Young

0:34:38.400 --> 0:34:40.360
<v Speaker 3>Money album that they did, it was on like Steady

0:34:40.400 --> 0:34:42.640
<v Speaker 3>Mob and all that shit that no one knows.

0:34:42.360 --> 0:34:43.439
<v Speaker 4>Where the fuck they are.

0:34:43.800 --> 0:34:46.000
<v Speaker 3>You could be two pistols getting the song from t

0:34:46.200 --> 0:34:48.920
<v Speaker 3>Pain what happened to that guy? If you don't have

0:34:49.000 --> 0:34:52.320
<v Speaker 3>some independent gravity around your own name and your own brand,

0:34:52.719 --> 0:34:56.200
<v Speaker 3>then you're just sewing so's nameless, faceless sidekick on a song,

0:34:56.400 --> 0:34:57.959
<v Speaker 3>even if it's your own fucking song.

0:34:58.320 --> 0:34:58.920
<v Speaker 5>That's true.

0:34:59.120 --> 0:35:01.200
<v Speaker 3>So I don't even think that this is guarantee early

0:35:01.239 --> 0:35:02.120
<v Speaker 3>on in your career.

0:35:01.880 --> 0:35:03.239
<v Speaker 4>That that's a pathway to success.

0:35:03.120 --> 0:35:06.400
<v Speaker 3>It's a pathway to one fucking song, and that's it.

0:35:06.880 --> 0:35:09.200
<v Speaker 2>Of course's pathway to getting stuck. Because I'm gonna tell you,

0:35:09.200 --> 0:35:11.800
<v Speaker 2>I tell glasses all the time, and I believe everything

0:35:11.880 --> 0:35:15.360
<v Speaker 2>works out the way it's supposed to. Because the glasses

0:35:15.480 --> 0:35:19.560
<v Speaker 2>sounds very good over Southern beats. He sounds very good.

0:35:19.600 --> 0:35:22.520
<v Speaker 2>He ridsed them motherfuckers like a beast cruiser. He sound good.

0:35:23.160 --> 0:35:26.399
<v Speaker 2>I think Glasses would have very much been suffering through

0:35:26.400 --> 0:35:29.279
<v Speaker 2>and I think an incredible identity crisis had he done

0:35:29.280 --> 0:35:31.080
<v Speaker 2>what everybody else wanted them to do. And I'm kind

0:35:31.080 --> 0:35:33.560
<v Speaker 2>of glad he went and did what he's doing up

0:35:33.600 --> 0:35:36.719
<v Speaker 2>because that's why he's still here. He might have had

0:35:36.719 --> 0:35:40.000
<v Speaker 2>an incredible career going that route, rapping over tone beats,

0:35:40.280 --> 0:35:43.240
<v Speaker 2>rapping over this person's beats, rapping over Manny Fresh and stuff.

0:35:43.239 --> 0:35:46.120
<v Speaker 2>He sounded good, but it had been one of those

0:35:46.160 --> 0:35:49.600
<v Speaker 2>things where eventually people are to connect. It was like, Okay,

0:35:49.600 --> 0:35:54.640
<v Speaker 2>this dude is from Watts Compton, but he sounds like this,

0:35:55.239 --> 0:35:56.959
<v Speaker 2>and it had probably been over with. They just moved

0:35:57.000 --> 0:36:00.000
<v Speaker 2>on past them, because whenever something is not authentic, people

0:36:00.120 --> 0:36:02.520
<v Speaker 2>move past it, whether they know it. And I think

0:36:02.560 --> 0:36:05.759
<v Speaker 2>sometimes even on the subconscious level think about it. What's

0:36:05.800 --> 0:36:07.920
<v Speaker 2>the homie from Long Beach not saying his career is

0:36:07.960 --> 0:36:11.080
<v Speaker 2>just over, but he has a huge correction. And I

0:36:11.120 --> 0:36:15.319
<v Speaker 2>think that's the problem with Genesis, Genesis Genesis. He's made

0:36:15.360 --> 0:36:18.480
<v Speaker 2>those records, those records examine. He makes jamin ass music.

0:36:18.560 --> 0:36:21.960
<v Speaker 2>But okay, you for long Beach Dog and you sound

0:36:22.080 --> 0:36:22.399
<v Speaker 2>like this.

0:36:24.320 --> 0:36:26.640
<v Speaker 1>I've been saying this to people for a while because

0:36:26.960 --> 0:36:33.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, it's a confusion between previous generations and hip

0:36:33.000 --> 0:36:36.399
<v Speaker 1>hop versus today's generation of hip hop audience. And they

0:36:36.440 --> 0:36:41.120
<v Speaker 1>feel like a lot of previous generation, previous generations of

0:36:41.160 --> 0:36:44.600
<v Speaker 1>hip hop are harder on the modern generation of hip

0:36:44.640 --> 0:36:47.880
<v Speaker 1>hop because they feel like, you know, they say the

0:36:48.000 --> 0:36:51.160
<v Speaker 1>music isn't good, and you know, you got the young

0:36:51.280 --> 0:36:53.719
<v Speaker 1>rappers coming up, like, oh may y'all just saying that

0:36:53.800 --> 0:36:55.880
<v Speaker 1>because it's not what y'all used to listen to or

0:36:55.920 --> 0:36:59.480
<v Speaker 1>what y'all used to make. And I kind of stay

0:36:59.520 --> 0:37:02.239
<v Speaker 1>out of it, but I will say this is the problem.

0:37:02.440 --> 0:37:05.279
<v Speaker 1>The problem is today music is not consumed by what

0:37:05.360 --> 0:37:08.080
<v Speaker 1>you hear first, so the records don't have to be

0:37:08.120 --> 0:37:11.399
<v Speaker 1>as good. Everything about hip hop for the most part,

0:37:11.480 --> 0:37:13.360
<v Speaker 1>is consumed by what you see first.

0:37:13.800 --> 0:37:15.759
<v Speaker 5>That's where it's changed, you know what I mean.

0:37:15.800 --> 0:37:19.200
<v Speaker 1>So it's about music that fits the brand of what

0:37:19.280 --> 0:37:19.759
<v Speaker 1>you see.

0:37:20.440 --> 0:37:22.240
<v Speaker 5>That's what a good song is today.

0:37:22.680 --> 0:37:25.399
<v Speaker 1>Well, obviously, when I was a little kid, you didn't

0:37:25.480 --> 0:37:27.040
<v Speaker 1>see ice Cube like that.

0:37:27.120 --> 0:37:29.440
<v Speaker 5>You heard it, so they had to put more.

0:37:29.239 --> 0:37:32.200
<v Speaker 1>Into the record to tell you everything about their brand

0:37:32.760 --> 0:37:35.040
<v Speaker 1>in the record, so and then it had to be

0:37:35.160 --> 0:37:38.440
<v Speaker 1>catchy so we could keep hearing it versus today where

0:37:38.880 --> 0:37:41.040
<v Speaker 1>I knew, like I said I've said multiple times on

0:37:41.080 --> 0:37:44.759
<v Speaker 1>this podcast, on those ceilings, I knew who Little UZI was,

0:37:45.160 --> 0:37:49.319
<v Speaker 1>twenty one Savage was, Kodak Black was, Little YACHTI was,

0:37:49.560 --> 0:37:52.320
<v Speaker 1>and Extant I see on Rest in Peace was before

0:37:52.320 --> 0:37:55.799
<v Speaker 1>I heard one song from them, I knew who they were.

0:37:56.120 --> 0:37:58.799
<v Speaker 1>If I saw them walking down the street, before I

0:37:58.840 --> 0:38:01.759
<v Speaker 1>heard a Kodak Black, I could point him out, you

0:38:01.840 --> 0:38:04.200
<v Speaker 1>know what I mean, Like, Oh that's Kodak Black. Oh that's

0:38:04.200 --> 0:38:08.880
<v Speaker 1>twenty one Savage. Oh that's extenst. Oh that's Little YACHTI.

0:38:09.040 --> 0:38:13.040
<v Speaker 1>Oh that's Little Uzy I. That's how great their brand

0:38:13.320 --> 0:38:18.719
<v Speaker 1>was of like the iory like right, I Instagram allowed

0:38:18.760 --> 0:38:21.200
<v Speaker 1>me into the space of knowing who.

0:38:21.040 --> 0:38:23.960
<v Speaker 5>They were as stars before I heard one song.

0:38:25.200 --> 0:38:27.719
<v Speaker 2>That amazed me about you, bro, because I thought I

0:38:27.800 --> 0:38:30.040
<v Speaker 2>was hitping you to something by hitping you the Big Frank,

0:38:30.120 --> 0:38:32.920
<v Speaker 2>by telling you about Big Frank, you had already know

0:38:32.960 --> 0:38:34.879
<v Speaker 2>who he was. You had already been followed. My said,

0:38:34.880 --> 0:38:35.720
<v Speaker 2>you knew about Big.

0:38:35.600 --> 0:38:39.960
<v Speaker 1>Frank vies to the flow right now, hit it up,

0:38:40.040 --> 0:38:43.319
<v Speaker 1>tell you how you get damn hey, yeah, but I'm

0:38:43.400 --> 0:38:46.640
<v Speaker 1>on hip hop so ever since like right still, when

0:38:46.640 --> 0:38:49.200
<v Speaker 1>I first came, when we first met, right when I

0:38:49.280 --> 0:38:52.560
<v Speaker 1>was just culture, when I was just this little southern

0:38:52.600 --> 0:38:58.000
<v Speaker 1>California cultural figure that niggas knew was very much the

0:38:58.120 --> 0:39:00.759
<v Speaker 1>culture bathed in the iced t always tell me I

0:39:00.880 --> 0:39:04.279
<v Speaker 1>just sound so much like every part of La right,

0:39:04.360 --> 0:39:07.479
<v Speaker 1>And I didn't understand hip hop, but when I start

0:39:07.560 --> 0:39:10.200
<v Speaker 1>figuring it out, like it really meant more. But even

0:39:10.280 --> 0:39:13.200
<v Speaker 1>earlier I was always intrigued with it without even knowing.

0:39:13.400 --> 0:39:16.359
<v Speaker 1>Like I remember going to Cincinnati and seeing this guy

0:39:16.440 --> 0:39:19.040
<v Speaker 1>named Cross. I'm with Chris and the young Guns shut

0:39:19.040 --> 0:39:21.719
<v Speaker 1>Out to the Guns, and we go to a concert

0:39:21.760 --> 0:39:24.600
<v Speaker 1>in Cincinnati and I'm watching it's a guy named Cross,

0:39:24.840 --> 0:39:27.120
<v Speaker 1>and they have all of this movement, do the.

0:39:27.120 --> 0:39:30.040
<v Speaker 5>Sound salm, do the sound salm, now.

0:39:29.960 --> 0:39:32.680
<v Speaker 1>Murk out, and they had this whole movement of dancing

0:39:33.120 --> 0:39:35.640
<v Speaker 1>right down, do the down the way, you know, and

0:39:35.680 --> 0:39:36.000
<v Speaker 1>it was.

0:39:35.960 --> 0:39:37.840
<v Speaker 5>All these dances, and I was just intriguing.

0:39:37.920 --> 0:39:40.200
<v Speaker 1>I remember coming back home telling all the hommies like,

0:39:40.440 --> 0:39:43.319
<v Speaker 1>and these Cincinnati niggas got it popping. I remember when

0:39:43.400 --> 0:39:46.840
<v Speaker 1>Certified was the biggest song in Dallas. It was a

0:39:46.920 --> 0:39:49.319
<v Speaker 1>number one song at both radio stations. And I would

0:39:49.320 --> 0:39:52.319
<v Speaker 1>go down there and do a concert and nobody knew

0:39:52.360 --> 0:39:53.400
<v Speaker 1>what was happening in Dallas.

0:39:53.480 --> 0:39:55.520
<v Speaker 5>But I would go there and I would see.

0:39:55.280 --> 0:39:58.280
<v Speaker 1>This music in the sound and I was I remember

0:39:58.320 --> 0:40:00.480
<v Speaker 1>being in this club and they were three, four or

0:40:00.480 --> 0:40:02.960
<v Speaker 1>five thousand people dancing in a circle.

0:40:04.000 --> 0:40:06.600
<v Speaker 5>They're dancing in a circle and they doing it, do

0:40:06.800 --> 0:40:08.160
<v Speaker 5>the stanky leg, do.

0:40:08.280 --> 0:40:10.840
<v Speaker 1>The Frankie and they just going crazy, and I'm like,

0:40:10.880 --> 0:40:13.440
<v Speaker 1>what the fuck? And I remember just being intrigued and

0:40:13.719 --> 0:40:16.800
<v Speaker 1>going crazy. And I came back home right and nobody

0:40:16.880 --> 0:40:18.799
<v Speaker 1>knew what was going on. And I went to a

0:40:18.880 --> 0:40:22.000
<v Speaker 1>game with you to watch Chris play. I don't know

0:40:22.360 --> 0:40:24.440
<v Speaker 1>what was going on, or we were somewhere looking at

0:40:24.440 --> 0:40:27.080
<v Speaker 1>something else. I was at a game at Domingas and

0:40:27.640 --> 0:40:30.040
<v Speaker 1>a month later, dude scored a touchdown and he started

0:40:30.040 --> 0:40:31.000
<v Speaker 1>doing a Frankie leg.

0:40:31.200 --> 0:40:32.959
<v Speaker 5>And two months later I heard it on the railo

0:40:33.040 --> 0:40:33.640
<v Speaker 5>the first time.

0:40:34.000 --> 0:40:37.000
<v Speaker 1>So I love watching hip hop. You know when you

0:40:37.040 --> 0:40:39.600
<v Speaker 1>plant that seed that them Bronx dudes made, and you

0:40:39.719 --> 0:40:42.600
<v Speaker 1>put that seed in the Dallas ghetto and it pops

0:40:42.640 --> 0:40:45.160
<v Speaker 1>up with you know, the music and how they moving

0:40:45.239 --> 0:40:48.960
<v Speaker 1>and how they rapping. I love it. So back to Milwaukee.

0:40:49.200 --> 0:40:51.120
<v Speaker 1>It's a guy named Steve de Stoner.

0:40:52.120 --> 0:40:52.600
<v Speaker 5>You know what I mean.

0:40:52.680 --> 0:40:54.600
<v Speaker 1>This is about two and a half three years old,

0:40:55.080 --> 0:40:57.879
<v Speaker 1>and you plant that seed in Milwaukee in the four

0:40:57.920 --> 0:41:00.680
<v Speaker 1>one four and so i was watching Steve the Stoner

0:41:00.680 --> 0:41:02.160
<v Speaker 1>and I'm watching him do this dancing.

0:41:02.560 --> 0:41:03.960
<v Speaker 5>Niggas is talking shit, they like.

0:41:03.880 --> 0:41:06.319
<v Speaker 1>Oh he's twerking, he's looking back and I'm like, man,

0:41:06.320 --> 0:41:08.520
<v Speaker 1>this nigga really feeling it, like and I don't think

0:41:08.560 --> 0:41:09.840
<v Speaker 1>this dude is no pushover.

0:41:10.239 --> 0:41:10.640
<v Speaker 5>He can.

0:41:10.760 --> 0:41:13.080
<v Speaker 1>So then as I'm watching it, I'm seeing the other

0:41:13.160 --> 0:41:17.160
<v Speaker 1>scenes developed. I'm seeing Big Frank, I'm seeing JP, you know,

0:41:17.239 --> 0:41:21.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm seeing Maya p. I'm seeing Big K you know, Kennedy. Like,

0:41:21.360 --> 0:41:24.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm seeing the scene come about. And guess what, Now

0:41:24.560 --> 0:41:26.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm connecting it. Okay, shout out to the Onmie Twine,

0:41:27.040 --> 0:41:34.360
<v Speaker 1>shout out to a cousin do the marketing that Milwaukee.

0:41:34.680 --> 0:41:39.440
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, he got p A p KP the playmaker. Right.

0:41:39.480 --> 0:41:42.759
<v Speaker 1>So I'm watching it, connecting all the docs and now

0:41:42.880 --> 0:41:44.600
<v Speaker 1>so I've been tuned into.

0:41:44.360 --> 0:41:45.400
<v Speaker 5>It for two three years.

0:41:45.400 --> 0:41:48.200
<v Speaker 1>So it's dope to watch that hip hop scene when

0:41:48.200 --> 0:41:50.719
<v Speaker 1>you play it in that ghetto of Milwaukee in it

0:41:50.840 --> 0:41:53.080
<v Speaker 1>pop out and they move in a certain way, and

0:41:53.880 --> 0:41:54.839
<v Speaker 1>I love it, you know what I mean?

0:41:54.880 --> 0:41:55.520
<v Speaker 5>I love him.

0:41:56.560 --> 0:41:58.920
<v Speaker 2>I love it. It's amazing because you don't know what

0:41:59.040 --> 0:42:02.479
<v Speaker 2>culture like. I don't think I told you this. He's

0:42:02.520 --> 0:42:05.080
<v Speaker 2>trying to bring itself for the Gangster Chronicles because it's

0:42:05.080 --> 0:42:08.040
<v Speaker 2>a big thing. He's like, man, when Big Franklin was

0:42:08.080 --> 0:42:10.440
<v Speaker 2>out here, they was like trying to make me go

0:42:10.520 --> 0:42:12.720
<v Speaker 2>through the show for them that they they wasn't the townhole.

0:42:12.719 --> 0:42:14.520
<v Speaker 2>When I was explaining to him, bro, I just can't

0:42:14.560 --> 0:42:16.640
<v Speaker 2>just get up with eight like that, but they was like, man,

0:42:16.680 --> 0:42:19.239
<v Speaker 2>it's the shit they was looking at that. They was

0:42:19.400 --> 0:42:21.120
<v Speaker 2>almost upset to the point they had to go to

0:42:21.200 --> 0:42:23.520
<v Speaker 2>No Jumper. No Jumper is a huge platform and they

0:42:23.600 --> 0:42:25.000
<v Speaker 2>was like, well, damn, we want to be on there

0:42:25.040 --> 0:42:28.320
<v Speaker 2>with you and eight. And it's just crazy how culture

0:42:28.560 --> 0:42:31.120
<v Speaker 2>just where culture catches at.

0:42:31.719 --> 0:42:34.200
<v Speaker 1>And it's crazy because it only grows in the ghetto.

0:42:34.719 --> 0:42:37.000
<v Speaker 1>How don't given fuck which ghetto you plant it in

0:42:37.040 --> 0:42:39.440
<v Speaker 1>Northern Italy, in the ghetto you get pizza, you planning

0:42:39.480 --> 0:42:43.359
<v Speaker 1>it in the ghettos of Mexico. You get tacos. Listen, man,

0:42:43.600 --> 0:42:45.279
<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying. So I'm in love with

0:42:45.320 --> 0:42:47.200
<v Speaker 1>that part of it. And that's the thing, you know

0:42:47.239 --> 0:42:50.480
<v Speaker 1>what I mean, Like, I love this shit. That's why

0:42:50.560 --> 0:42:53.200
<v Speaker 1>nobody that's why I rightfully shaw him the furi of

0:42:53.280 --> 0:42:56.520
<v Speaker 1>hip hop, because nobody else is going to protect it

0:42:56.520 --> 0:42:59.319
<v Speaker 1>with the vigor that I am. Nobody else loves it

0:42:59.440 --> 0:43:02.560
<v Speaker 1>as much as I do. I don't love everything just good.

0:43:02.640 --> 0:43:05.040
<v Speaker 1>I love no matter what the challenge of it is.

0:43:05.360 --> 0:43:08.880
<v Speaker 1>I embrace it all. So I'm always proud of every

0:43:09.000 --> 0:43:12.240
<v Speaker 1>aspect that happens. And even right now as we're starting

0:43:12.280 --> 0:43:15.200
<v Speaker 1>to build right, dsn right, We're starting to build it,

0:43:15.239 --> 0:43:17.759
<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, Okay, look, these are the first two things.

0:43:17.760 --> 0:43:19.879
<v Speaker 5>Okay, let's figure out, Pete. Thing, Let's figure it out.

0:43:20.160 --> 0:43:24.200
<v Speaker 1>Like I love being a part of things building, especially things.

0:43:23.920 --> 0:43:26.399
<v Speaker 5>That are culture. Like I love this shit. I love

0:43:26.480 --> 0:43:28.200
<v Speaker 5>culture like I just love it. Man.

0:43:28.239 --> 0:43:31.319
<v Speaker 1>I love how poor people figure it out. You know,

0:43:31.400 --> 0:43:34.320
<v Speaker 1>you don't got the best education right in English, Pete,

0:43:34.360 --> 0:43:36.680
<v Speaker 1>but guess what, you still got to communicate and you

0:43:36.760 --> 0:43:38.279
<v Speaker 1>start making words work.

0:43:38.480 --> 0:43:40.160
<v Speaker 5>People don't like that. I love it.

0:43:40.920 --> 0:43:44.239
<v Speaker 1>I love when people figure it out. You know what

0:43:44.239 --> 0:43:45.719
<v Speaker 1>I mean they like, well, I need to be able

0:43:45.760 --> 0:43:49.440
<v Speaker 1>to talk, so I don't have the Queen's English, that

0:43:49.600 --> 0:43:52.200
<v Speaker 1>that opportunity. Nobody's teaching me that. But guess what, I

0:43:52.239 --> 0:43:55.160
<v Speaker 1>still need to tell this motherfucker what I want.

0:43:55.200 --> 0:43:56.640
<v Speaker 5>That's slang. I love that shit.

0:43:57.600 --> 0:43:59.680
<v Speaker 4>I don't disagree with that. Actually, I mean like it's

0:43:59.840 --> 0:44:01.440
<v Speaker 4>just a communication medium.

0:44:02.680 --> 0:44:09.040
<v Speaker 3>All the formal fancy languages is the user of it,

0:44:10.000 --> 0:44:13.960
<v Speaker 3>and often cases trying to say my idea might be

0:44:13.960 --> 0:44:15.719
<v Speaker 3>worse than yours, but I want to be perceived as

0:44:15.760 --> 0:44:17.719
<v Speaker 3>smarter than use someone to say it like this, and

0:44:18.560 --> 0:44:20.879
<v Speaker 3>you know the rest is history. But the other guy

0:44:20.920 --> 0:44:23.200
<v Speaker 3>might have a better idea. But if you could communicate,

0:44:23.600 --> 0:44:25.520
<v Speaker 3>move the thing from over here to over there and

0:44:25.560 --> 0:44:28.560
<v Speaker 3>put it like that, then.

0:44:28.440 --> 0:44:30.239
<v Speaker 4>Move it over there, put it like fucking that, that's

0:44:30.239 --> 0:44:30.799
<v Speaker 4>all you need to know.

0:44:31.640 --> 0:44:33.360
<v Speaker 5>That's what I feel like hip hop. Hip hop is

0:44:33.400 --> 0:44:34.440
<v Speaker 5>not taking the crosswalk.

0:44:34.920 --> 0:44:37.600
<v Speaker 1>I feel like the mainstream music pop music is taking

0:44:37.640 --> 0:44:41.239
<v Speaker 1>a crosswalk, walking down the street, taking across walk, and

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<v Speaker 1>walking back down the street. Hip hop, you just jwalk. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>let's get the point a point be fast as possible.

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<v Speaker 2>Analogy. Have y'all heard about this lady, and this is

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<v Speaker 2>going over to some whole other ship. Man. The lady

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<v Speaker 2>that was the she was a diversity manager for Facebook

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<v Speaker 2>and Nike. Oh yeah, and for a lot of people

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<v Speaker 2>that don't know what a diversity manager is. A diversity

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<v Speaker 2>manager is there to make sure everything is equitable to

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<v Speaker 2>you know, opportunities to present the black people or Hispanic

0:45:13.960 --> 0:45:17.440
<v Speaker 2>people or whatever. She's five million dollars dog. She she

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<v Speaker 2>was doing it that Facebook, and then she went over

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<v Speaker 2>to Nike. He was doing it again. Man, This girl

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<v Speaker 2>on fucked off a really good opportunity and fucked off

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of funding for brothers and sisters too. While

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<v Speaker 2>she was at it, she was giving a breade to

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<v Speaker 2>her husband and her friends.

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<v Speaker 4>And because there's a whole.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, there's an onslaught of various diversity officers at

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<v Speaker 3>universities and stuff like the nation over there being kind

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<v Speaker 3>of like audited.

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<v Speaker 5>Right now, and the.

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<v Speaker 3>Like rampant what's the what's the word when you copy

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<v Speaker 3>people's paperwork in school?

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<v Speaker 2>Plagiarism?

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<v Speaker 3>Plagiarism, A lot of plagiarism scandals in academia in that

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<v Speaker 3>particular department, like coast to coast. So it's not a

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<v Speaker 3>good time for that particular group's image right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she got five years, man, she could do every

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<v Speaker 2>bit of that time to a.

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<v Speaker 3>Former five taking five million dollars, I would do that tomorrow.

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<v Speaker 3>Fuck if I could sneak one million off into some

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<v Speaker 3>weird crypto wormhole and it SAYSSED four, I would take

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<v Speaker 3>five years, laughing get off.

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<v Speaker 2>Who pleaded guilty the wire fraud in the case in December,

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<v Speaker 2>stole more than four point nine million from Facebook, utilizing

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<v Speaker 2>a scheme involving fraudulent vendors, fake invoices and cash kickbacks,

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<v Speaker 2>said Atlanta US attorney Rhyme. You can Furlough Smiles thirty

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<v Speaker 2>eight used the money she stole the fund of luxury

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<v Speaker 2>lifestyle in California, Georgia, and Oregon, According to the Buchanan's office, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>Barbara Furlough Smiles as a.

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<v Speaker 3>Middle name Furlough. What happens when they pay you after

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<v Speaker 3>you've been on strike.

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<v Speaker 2>Five years and three months in prison for stilling more

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<v Speaker 2>than five million from those companies that had been earmarked

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<v Speaker 2>for DEI initiatives, federal prosecutor said Georgia resident Barbara Furlow Smiles,

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<v Speaker 2>who pleaded guilty the wirefire in the case of December

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<v Speaker 2>stole more than four point nine million from Facebook. Damn

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<v Speaker 2>man she was given After being terminated from Facebook, she

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<v Speaker 2>brazenly continued the fraud as a DEI leader at Nike,

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<v Speaker 2>where she stole another six figure stumb from the diversity

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<v Speaker 2>program she used the money to fund of them. She

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<v Speaker 2>was the lead strategist and global head of Employee Resource

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<v Speaker 2>Groups and diversity Engagement at Facebook, the subsidiary of Meta.

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<v Speaker 2>She was not Facebook's top exec for diversity, equity and

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<v Speaker 2>inclusion off efforts. That's crazy, thog. She fucked up her career.

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<v Speaker 2>She fucked up a good career and stole a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of money. That's probably why we could never elexib Be

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<v Speaker 2>for none of that shick she's she was getting the

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<v Speaker 2>fucking money.

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<v Speaker 5>Man, We not wasn't in business with her.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know how many times I applied for that?

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<v Speaker 2>A couple of times man forradicital soap box, and we're

0:48:07.880 --> 0:48:10.440
<v Speaker 2>getting because I would get all the way to the end.

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<v Speaker 1>You know how they call you, Barbara dumbs your ship

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<v Speaker 1>down because you wasn't with the program.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, you gotta give her, you know, the dumbs your

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<v Speaker 5>ship down because you wasn't with the program.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what you know what, man, I'm trying to think.

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<v Speaker 2>I might have got asked to give a kickback in

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<v Speaker 2>one of them situations, and I was mad and the

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<v Speaker 2>motherfucker and said, hell no, if.

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<v Speaker 4>Someone asked to give a kickback, give them the kickback.

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<v Speaker 5>See, y'all don't know. This is why white people ahead

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<v Speaker 5>in business.

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<v Speaker 4>See y'all be thinking treat Frank Lucas and Gambino.

0:48:46.320 --> 0:48:49.600
<v Speaker 3>Gambino paid his taxes, Frank Lucas didn't.

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<v Speaker 4>That's the only difference.

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<v Speaker 1>You gotta pay your taxes on the drug money. You

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<v Speaker 1>gotta pay the play.

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<v Speaker 2>That's crazy, man. So if a motherfucker give you three

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<v Speaker 2>hundred thousand dollars, they want one hundred back. You don't

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<v Speaker 2>think that's a bit.

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<v Speaker 3>You just got two hundred thousand dollars congratulations.

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<v Speaker 2>No, what the money is supposed to be there to

0:49:12.880 --> 0:49:14.520
<v Speaker 2>do for people? See that's the thing. If I'm in

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<v Speaker 2>a position like that, I'm not taking no money from nobody.

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<v Speaker 4>Is three hundred thousand dollars two for me?

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<v Speaker 2>What for you?

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<v Speaker 5>It did for people?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, And I'm gonna talk you fifteen. I'm gonna buy

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<v Speaker 1>you a little civic. Put your money in the back seat.

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<v Speaker 1>This little civic. Yeah, write that civic off.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. You know what, man, that's just Oh, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>understand people, man.

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<v Speaker 5>I get it.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I don't understand how people be A and

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<v Speaker 1>R is that at these jobs and then they be

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<v Speaker 1>there all these years and only sign two.

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<v Speaker 2>People because they just trying to have a job. You

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<v Speaker 2>know what, man, When I got my A and R job,

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<v Speaker 2>I really tried to give everybody I thought had talent

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<v Speaker 2>a deal.

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<v Speaker 5>That's true.

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<v Speaker 2>I really tried to dog but they only let me

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<v Speaker 2>out all the people I brought. Imagine, I bought the

0:50:01.880 --> 0:50:05.960
<v Speaker 2>motherfucker's you glasses. Guess what deal. I bought them from

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<v Speaker 2>top top one Again, you can ask top this is

0:50:08.880 --> 0:50:11.319
<v Speaker 2>a true story Top one to maybe I think two

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<v Speaker 2>fifty three hundred thousand, just because you know, they had

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<v Speaker 2>been rocking with him for a while. He wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>just give him a little bit of money. He wanted to,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, buy into their published and give them a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit of bread. Right. Those people told me, man,

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<v Speaker 2>that them people wasn't gonna never go nowhere. They said, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>this would be a waste of money. Nobody's ever going

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<v Speaker 2>to take them serious.

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<v Speaker 5>M hm.

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<v Speaker 2>Can you imagine what that would have with that return

0:50:34.920 --> 0:50:37.320
<v Speaker 2>would have been like had they let their head of

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<v Speaker 2>urban music just do his fucking job.

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<v Speaker 1>Who was that Kendrick Lamar j Rock talking about TV

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<v Speaker 1>when he an r is the publishing company he took

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<v Speaker 1>him a TD deal that top Dog wanted to take

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<v Speaker 1>him and they didn't see the value any So obviously

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<v Speaker 1>you're looking at Kendrick Lamar j Rock school wy Q.

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<v Speaker 5>You gotta be kidding.

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<v Speaker 2>The money they have made their money just back, just

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<v Speaker 2>just that fucking quick.

0:51:03.440 --> 0:51:06.720
<v Speaker 3>They made their money back every weekend for several weekends

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<v Speaker 3>in a row, several several several weekends.

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<v Speaker 2>In a row. I was mad. I was mad about

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<v Speaker 2>that when they said they'd do a deal for G

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<v Speaker 2>but after the album come out and they wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>come out through cash, like it was just weird shit.

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<v Speaker 5>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>Then they didn't see the thing because Jay Rock you know,

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<v Speaker 2>that's when Warner Brothers kept pushing back on Jay Rock Ship.

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<v Speaker 2>They didn't think the albums would ever come out, so

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<v Speaker 2>that's all they kept looking at. They didn't look at

0:51:33.400 --> 0:51:35.040
<v Speaker 2>none of the other They didn't look at k I

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<v Speaker 2>Ab so none of them. I thought them people were

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<v Speaker 2>stupid as hell. They almost did a deal with sound

0:51:41.520 --> 0:51:43.480
<v Speaker 2>Way if they liked sound Way, but they wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>fuck him so bad. I was glad sound Wave didn't

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<v Speaker 2>take that deal.

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<v Speaker 5>Shout out to Beth be was shying their best.

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<v Speaker 4>I want to make a teaser.

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<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't made at them, but they it wasn't Beth.

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<v Speaker 2>If it was just Bef was done, it was John.

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<v Speaker 2>He was so busy saying know that every motherfucking thing.

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<v Speaker 2>He then look at it. They son he understood the

0:52:06.280 --> 0:52:09.919
<v Speaker 2>culture of hip hop. But I knew he wasn't gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be that one because he said that if it wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>for eminem hip hop wouldn't be what it is.

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<v Speaker 5>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>He just was one of them dudes. He didn't understand

0:52:16.719 --> 0:52:19.959
<v Speaker 2>what hip hop was, so he should have just shut

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<v Speaker 2>the fuck up. If they didn't shut the fuck up

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<v Speaker 2>and enjoyed the show and let me do my job. Gee, man,

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<v Speaker 2>we be sitting it wouldn't be no conversation about nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd be picking up the phone. Hey'all need you to

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<v Speaker 2>open up this budget for my homeboy? Man, give shoot

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<v Speaker 2>them two million click. It'd been that because that's what

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<v Speaker 2>the industry, he was. The industry is based on what

0:52:36.600 --> 0:52:37.600
<v Speaker 2>you've done, not what you go.

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<v Speaker 3>Do, and that to be Like I said, I want

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<v Speaker 3>to do a teaser. I really want to do another

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<v Speaker 3>episode on this concept right now. How big business plays

0:52:48.560 --> 0:52:51.480
<v Speaker 3>from ahead and it's how can this not work? Thriving

0:52:51.840 --> 0:52:56.560
<v Speaker 3>small businesses, it's how can this work? There's an optimism there.

0:52:56.800 --> 0:53:01.080
<v Speaker 3>Innovation comes from the small because the big things and

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<v Speaker 3>a different risk calculation.

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<v Speaker 4>They have something to lose.

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<v Speaker 3>We can't just give two million dollars every time Digging

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<v Speaker 3>Harry walks through the door. We have a risk calculation

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<v Speaker 3>to our budget, whereas a smaller company goes. We gotta

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<v Speaker 3>somehow make this money. So we gotta we gotta take

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<v Speaker 3>a risk, we gotta take input. This outside of the normal.

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<v Speaker 3>We got to figure out a way to get this

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<v Speaker 3>fast and get it big.

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<v Speaker 1>Good looking out for tuning in to the No Sellers podcast.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah