1 00:00:04,755 --> 00:00:08,995 Speaker 1: Countdown with Keith Olderman is a production of I Heart Radio. 2 00:00:21,075 --> 00:00:23,995 Speaker 1: Let's get the balloons stuff out of the way first, 3 00:00:24,035 --> 00:00:26,715 Speaker 1: before we get to Trump's new and far more serious 4 00:00:26,755 --> 00:00:30,715 Speaker 1: documents crime and his lawyer's amazing claim that Trump did 5 00:00:30,715 --> 00:00:33,675 Speaker 1: not steal the classified document. He just did not give 6 00:00:33,715 --> 00:00:36,755 Speaker 1: back the classified document folder so he could keep it 7 00:00:36,795 --> 00:00:40,115 Speaker 1: in his bedroom to cover the night light on the 8 00:00:40,155 --> 00:00:44,315 Speaker 1: phone that was keeping him awake. Diddams good and sweep, 9 00:00:44,355 --> 00:00:47,475 Speaker 1: so Diddams used the envelope with the Nuki Nuki secrets 10 00:00:47,475 --> 00:00:55,795 Speaker 1: in him. Yes, four downed balloons and a false alarm 11 00:00:55,995 --> 00:00:58,715 Speaker 1: is a lot of downed balloons for an eight day span, 12 00:00:58,835 --> 00:01:02,755 Speaker 1: But as logic suggests, administration officials are leaking that they 13 00:01:02,835 --> 00:01:06,395 Speaker 1: learned a lot from letting that first Chinese spy airship 14 00:01:06,515 --> 00:01:08,515 Speaker 1: travel for a while before they shot it down over 15 00:01:08,595 --> 00:01:11,715 Speaker 1: the Atlantic. We do not know what, if anything, they 16 00:01:11,715 --> 00:01:14,875 Speaker 1: have yet recovered from the debris, but it is clear 17 00:01:15,235 --> 00:01:18,075 Speaker 1: our knowledge of what is and is not a foreign 18 00:01:18,155 --> 00:01:20,875 Speaker 1: spying device has grown exponentially in the last two weeks. 19 00:01:21,435 --> 00:01:24,115 Speaker 1: Put all the parts of the story together, and it's 20 00:01:24,115 --> 00:01:27,835 Speaker 1: obvious why the Trump administration did not know there had 21 00:01:27,835 --> 00:01:30,555 Speaker 1: been at least three of these over US territory during 22 00:01:30,595 --> 00:01:34,715 Speaker 1: its time in charge, Yet the Biden administration could suddenly say, yeah, 23 00:01:34,755 --> 00:01:38,435 Speaker 1: there had been Basically the one that took the Grand 24 00:01:38,595 --> 00:01:41,715 Speaker 1: tour of the Midwest allowed the Pentagon to say, oh, 25 00:01:41,755 --> 00:01:46,595 Speaker 1: that's what those are. Also, as the military expert Tyler 26 00:01:46,755 --> 00:01:49,635 Speaker 1: rogue Away from the war Zone at the Drive dot 27 00:01:49,675 --> 00:01:52,115 Speaker 1: Com has been writing since at least two thousand seventeen, 28 00:01:52,515 --> 00:01:57,275 Speaker 1: this is probably less about more incursions into US airspace 29 00:01:57,715 --> 00:02:00,195 Speaker 1: than it is about a greater willingness by the Pentagon 30 00:02:00,595 --> 00:02:04,235 Speaker 1: to shoot the damn things down after the Trump administration 31 00:02:04,275 --> 00:02:07,635 Speaker 1: completely ignored them, and for the first two years Biden's 32 00:02:07,675 --> 00:02:11,275 Speaker 1: Defense Department didn't do much better. Rogue Away also raised 33 00:02:11,275 --> 00:02:16,875 Speaker 1: the intriguing possibility that the Pentagon's newfound willingness to discuss UFOs, 34 00:02:17,515 --> 00:02:20,795 Speaker 1: the willingness that began about six seven years ago was 35 00:02:20,915 --> 00:02:25,435 Speaker 1: partly retrospective stupidity in believing maybe those were nuts by 36 00:02:25,515 --> 00:02:29,875 Speaker 1: balloons but UFOs, and partly covered for the reality that 37 00:02:29,915 --> 00:02:33,115 Speaker 1: Americans were now beginning to see the drones and balloons 38 00:02:33,155 --> 00:02:37,715 Speaker 1: of other countries and we had to say something, and yes, 39 00:02:38,155 --> 00:02:41,675 Speaker 1: in this last two weeks, Marjorie Taylor Green, speaking on 40 00:02:41,715 --> 00:02:45,595 Speaker 1: Behalf of the Moron Caucus has insisted the balloon was 41 00:02:45,635 --> 00:02:49,235 Speaker 1: probably filled with a bioweapon and nukes, and she's also 42 00:02:49,235 --> 00:02:52,035 Speaker 1: insisted that we should have blown it up immediately, thus 43 00:02:52,075 --> 00:02:56,355 Speaker 1: you know, detonating the nukes and spreading the bioweapons. And 44 00:02:56,475 --> 00:02:59,555 Speaker 1: she has also insisted the President acted too slowly. And 45 00:02:59,675 --> 00:03:02,035 Speaker 1: she has also insisted the President is acted too quickly. 46 00:03:02,435 --> 00:03:04,915 Speaker 1: And she has sworn at the Defense Department and US 47 00:03:05,035 --> 00:03:07,835 Speaker 1: during the top secret briefings. And she has then tweeted 48 00:03:07,835 --> 00:03:09,995 Speaker 1: about the lack of briefings, even though there had already 49 00:03:09,995 --> 00:03:12,795 Speaker 1: been a new briefing scheduled by the time she tweeted. 50 00:03:12,835 --> 00:03:17,755 Speaker 1: And yes, she has the intelligence of a mackerel, a 51 00:03:17,915 --> 00:03:26,115 Speaker 1: dead one lost behind all this well hot air balloon 52 00:03:26,355 --> 00:03:30,115 Speaker 1: juice if you prefer, was another shoe dropping in the 53 00:03:30,155 --> 00:03:32,875 Speaker 1: case of the classified documents trump stole, and the other 54 00:03:32,955 --> 00:03:36,155 Speaker 1: shoe is this is now the case of the classified 55 00:03:36,195 --> 00:03:40,955 Speaker 1: documents trump stole and disseminated, And typically nearly all of 56 00:03:40,995 --> 00:03:45,915 Speaker 1: the media missed that other shoe, that word disseminated. They 57 00:03:45,955 --> 00:03:48,715 Speaker 1: nearly all reported that Trump's legal team had found and 58 00:03:48,755 --> 00:03:53,115 Speaker 1: turned over pages with classified markings discovered in December at 59 00:03:53,115 --> 00:03:56,915 Speaker 1: Mari Lago and had also turned over a laptop, a 60 00:03:57,035 --> 00:04:03,235 Speaker 1: laptop which itself contained classified documents buried in most of 61 00:04:03,275 --> 00:04:05,395 Speaker 1: the accounts. Was the startling to tail from a story 62 00:04:05,395 --> 00:04:08,835 Speaker 1: which had seemingly long since lost its ability to startle. 63 00:04:09,275 --> 00:04:13,315 Speaker 1: The classified documents, which Trump was not legally allowed to have, 64 00:04:14,235 --> 00:04:17,675 Speaker 1: had been turned over to a campaign aid, which anybody 65 00:04:17,715 --> 00:04:19,675 Speaker 1: cleared to see them is not legally allowed to do. 66 00:04:20,515 --> 00:04:23,395 Speaker 1: And the campaign aid, who was not legally cleared to 67 00:04:23,395 --> 00:04:27,595 Speaker 1: see them, duplicated the documents, which she was not legally 68 00:04:27,635 --> 00:04:30,995 Speaker 1: allowed to do. And then she apparently duplicated them again, 69 00:04:31,835 --> 00:04:34,675 Speaker 1: which she was also not legally allowed to do onto 70 00:04:34,715 --> 00:04:41,435 Speaker 1: a thumb drive. Eighteen US Code seven A disclosure of 71 00:04:41,515 --> 00:04:48,075 Speaker 1: classified information. Quote. Whoever knowingly and willfully communicates, furnishes, transmits, 72 00:04:48,235 --> 00:04:54,435 Speaker 1: or otherwise makes available to an unauthorized person such documents 73 00:04:54,635 --> 00:04:57,635 Speaker 1: shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more 74 00:04:57,675 --> 00:05:03,835 Speaker 1: than ten years, or both unquote. Up until this part 75 00:05:03,915 --> 00:05:06,755 Speaker 1: of this story he broke. Trump had the thinnest illegal 76 00:05:06,835 --> 00:05:09,955 Speaker 1: grounds to defend himself against charges like, you know, mishandling 77 00:05:09,995 --> 00:05:15,835 Speaker 1: of classified information, violation of the Presidential Records Act, espionage. 78 00:05:16,155 --> 00:05:20,235 Speaker 1: But once you start disseminating classified information, or, as the 79 00:05:20,275 --> 00:05:23,795 Speaker 1: law refers to its disclosure, that thinnest of legal grounds 80 00:05:23,875 --> 00:05:28,395 Speaker 1: disappears entirely. The detailment has dripped out is that the 81 00:05:28,475 --> 00:05:32,995 Speaker 1: scanned documents were from the classified evening briefings Trump used 82 00:05:33,035 --> 00:05:36,795 Speaker 1: to get, and his latest lawyer said, nobody realized were classified. 83 00:05:37,715 --> 00:05:40,195 Speaker 1: Must have thought classified was the name of the manufacturer 84 00:05:40,235 --> 00:05:43,355 Speaker 1: of the folder. And there was an empty folder mark 85 00:05:43,475 --> 00:05:46,995 Speaker 1: classified Evening Briefing in Trump's bedroom, and nobody realized that 86 00:05:47,035 --> 00:05:51,915 Speaker 1: would be classified either. And then there is the entire 87 00:05:51,955 --> 00:05:56,195 Speaker 1: second question about the computer, the one that the classified 88 00:05:56,235 --> 00:06:00,035 Speaker 1: documents were scanned into. Was the computer connected to the 89 00:06:00,075 --> 00:06:04,075 Speaker 1: internet at any point was the material scanned and transferred 90 00:06:04,075 --> 00:06:06,515 Speaker 1: to yet another computer? If not, what was the point 91 00:06:06,515 --> 00:06:10,475 Speaker 1: of the thumb drive? And who had the computer? What 92 00:06:10,595 --> 00:06:13,555 Speaker 1: else was the computer used for, who had access to 93 00:06:13,595 --> 00:06:17,875 Speaker 1: the computer, and who did the scanning? Well, we think 94 00:06:17,915 --> 00:06:21,275 Speaker 1: we know the last answer, but it itself creates yet 95 00:06:21,315 --> 00:06:25,275 Speaker 1: a third new problem for Trump. CNN's Caitlin Collins, the 96 00:06:25,315 --> 00:06:29,595 Speaker 1: former Daily Caller writer now inexplicably anchoring the network's latest 97 00:06:29,635 --> 00:06:34,115 Speaker 1: disastrous morning show, originally tweeted quote the laptop belonged to 98 00:06:34,195 --> 00:06:39,195 Speaker 1: Chamberlain Harris, who worked for the Save America pack. Then 99 00:06:39,275 --> 00:06:42,995 Speaker 1: Caitlin Collins deleted that tweet without explanation, which is when 100 00:06:42,995 --> 00:06:47,515 Speaker 1: the Internet realized it should figure out who Chamberlain Harris 101 00:06:47,675 --> 00:06:50,955 Speaker 1: was while she was a coding assistant while in college 102 00:06:51,115 --> 00:06:54,435 Speaker 1: at Sunny Albany, and she was acting president of the 103 00:06:54,515 --> 00:06:59,715 Speaker 1: campus chapter of Turning Point Us, a little fascism project 104 00:06:59,715 --> 00:07:03,075 Speaker 1: founded by Charlie Kirk. She was an intern at the 105 00:07:03,195 --> 00:07:06,755 Speaker 1: Heritage Foundation. Man at the White House, she was an intern, 106 00:07:06,835 --> 00:07:10,195 Speaker 1: and then she worked on the Trump scams Save America 107 00:07:10,315 --> 00:07:13,755 Speaker 1: pack and Trump would also let her post under his 108 00:07:13,835 --> 00:07:17,395 Speaker 1: name on truth Social Oh and she studied abroad while 109 00:07:17,435 --> 00:07:23,715 Speaker 1: it's Sunny Albany too. She studied abroad in Russia. If 110 00:07:23,715 --> 00:07:26,115 Speaker 1: it's her, she's in a world of hurt. If it's 111 00:07:26,155 --> 00:07:28,395 Speaker 1: not her, somebody else is in a world of hurt. 112 00:07:28,955 --> 00:07:33,595 Speaker 1: Because the best excuse this newest Trump lawyer, Timothy parla 113 00:07:33,675 --> 00:07:36,795 Speaker 1: Tour can come up with for the illicit scanning of 114 00:07:36,795 --> 00:07:40,155 Speaker 1: the classified documents, and he says she scanned all of 115 00:07:40,155 --> 00:07:43,475 Speaker 1: those is that she had no idea. She wasn't supposed 116 00:07:43,475 --> 00:07:46,075 Speaker 1: to do that, as if it mattered what she did 117 00:07:46,195 --> 00:07:48,835 Speaker 1: or did not know. It's like the receipt of stolen goods. 118 00:07:48,835 --> 00:07:50,995 Speaker 1: What matters is if the person who gave them to 119 00:07:51,155 --> 00:07:55,955 Speaker 1: you knew they were stolen. And the by now familiar 120 00:07:56,115 --> 00:08:00,715 Speaker 1: immediate leap of a Trump lawyer from semi plausible sophistry 121 00:08:00,755 --> 00:08:04,115 Speaker 1: to outright absurdity came very quickly in this case. This 122 00:08:04,155 --> 00:08:08,235 Speaker 1: new Trump lawyer parlator, I wish they would number the lawyers. 123 00:08:08,275 --> 00:08:12,315 Speaker 1: It would be easier, this parlator said, quote. The folder 124 00:08:12,395 --> 00:08:15,355 Speaker 1: is one of the more humorous aspects of this whole thing. 125 00:08:15,715 --> 00:08:19,195 Speaker 1: This is not a classified folder. It's a Manila folder 126 00:08:19,275 --> 00:08:23,155 Speaker 1: that says classified evening summary on it. And it was 127 00:08:23,195 --> 00:08:27,155 Speaker 1: in the President's bedroom. He has one of those landline 128 00:08:27,195 --> 00:08:29,675 Speaker 1: telephones next to his bed, and it has a blue 129 00:08:29,795 --> 00:08:32,115 Speaker 1: light on it and it keeps him up at night. 130 00:08:34,475 --> 00:08:37,755 Speaker 1: He took the Manila folder and he put it over 131 00:08:37,795 --> 00:08:39,795 Speaker 1: it so it would keep the light down so he 132 00:08:39,795 --> 00:08:42,635 Speaker 1: could sleep at night. And when d J found out 133 00:08:42,635 --> 00:08:45,435 Speaker 1: about it, they went crazy. They actually gave me a 134 00:08:45,475 --> 00:08:48,715 Speaker 1: subpoena to say, give us over this empty folder. That 135 00:08:48,875 --> 00:08:53,475 Speaker 1: means nothing. All right, Trump, get another new lawyer. This 136 00:08:53,515 --> 00:08:58,115 Speaker 1: one is officially run out of crap already. The only 137 00:08:58,155 --> 00:09:00,355 Speaker 1: way to keep the night light on the phone from 138 00:09:00,595 --> 00:09:03,435 Speaker 1: keeping Trump awake all night was to cover it with 139 00:09:03,515 --> 00:09:08,755 Speaker 1: a Manila folder dread classified Evening summary. Nothing else would 140 00:09:08,755 --> 00:09:14,195 Speaker 1: suffice read classified Evening Summary, but couldn't possibly be classified 141 00:09:14,755 --> 00:09:17,835 Speaker 1: or mean anything, even though the government has been trying 142 00:09:17,835 --> 00:09:20,475 Speaker 1: to get everything classified back from this bastard for two 143 00:09:20,595 --> 00:09:22,995 Speaker 1: years and it keeps turning out. Oh, he kept more 144 00:09:23,035 --> 00:09:26,235 Speaker 1: stuff than he said and scanned it and gave it 145 00:09:26,275 --> 00:09:29,555 Speaker 1: to somebody one of his campaign fundraising scams who spent 146 00:09:29,675 --> 00:09:35,395 Speaker 1: time in Russia. Of course, we have this new new 147 00:09:35,515 --> 00:09:39,995 Speaker 1: new new lawyer, night light Boy, because apparently all of 148 00:09:40,035 --> 00:09:43,595 Speaker 1: Trump's other new lawyers are now witnesses in the Special 149 00:09:43,635 --> 00:09:48,235 Speaker 1: Counsel's prosecution of him. Evan Corkeran and Christina Bob have 150 00:09:48,315 --> 00:09:51,675 Speaker 1: now each appeared in front of Smith's grand jury, and 151 00:09:51,715 --> 00:09:54,755 Speaker 1: the consensus is they are there about the document Corkoran 152 00:09:54,795 --> 00:09:58,275 Speaker 1: wrote and Bob signed last June that swore that all 153 00:09:58,315 --> 00:10:00,915 Speaker 1: the classified documents Trump had it Mari Lago had been 154 00:10:00,915 --> 00:10:05,155 Speaker 1: turned back to the government during the voluntary search. There 155 00:10:05,195 --> 00:10:07,475 Speaker 1: does not seem to have been a PostScript on this 156 00:10:07,555 --> 00:10:11,315 Speaker 1: document that read, except the classified folder, Donkey uses to 157 00:10:11,395 --> 00:10:13,715 Speaker 1: hide his nightlife because nothing else in the world will 158 00:10:13,715 --> 00:10:16,715 Speaker 1: do except a one percent official government issue, double thick 159 00:10:16,755 --> 00:10:23,355 Speaker 1: classified mintle of folder. The premise here by the Jack 160 00:10:23,435 --> 00:10:26,395 Speaker 1: Smith team is to get one or both of the 161 00:10:26,475 --> 00:10:30,075 Speaker 1: lawyers Bob and or Corkoran, to testify that they were 162 00:10:30,155 --> 00:10:33,675 Speaker 1: told to sign and or write this document by Trump 163 00:10:34,155 --> 00:10:37,835 Speaker 1: even though Trump knew he still had boatloads of classified materials, 164 00:10:38,475 --> 00:10:40,675 Speaker 1: in which case they have an open and shut obstruction 165 00:10:40,675 --> 00:10:43,595 Speaker 1: of justice case against Trump and maybe separate charges of 166 00:10:43,675 --> 00:10:46,315 Speaker 1: line to the Department of Justice. And obviously, the deal 167 00:10:46,395 --> 00:10:51,275 Speaker 1: here is it's not true. And if Trump didn't order 168 00:10:51,435 --> 00:10:54,315 Speaker 1: them to say it's not true, then either Corkran as 169 00:10:54,355 --> 00:10:57,435 Speaker 1: the author or Bob as the autographer, they are the 170 00:10:57,475 --> 00:11:01,275 Speaker 1: ones who are guilty of obstruction and line. If you 171 00:11:01,395 --> 00:11:04,875 Speaker 1: missed the other new amazingly detailed leak. It turns out 172 00:11:04,875 --> 00:11:09,155 Speaker 1: Trump's campaign hired a group called the Berkeley Research Group 173 00:11:09,715 --> 00:11:13,915 Speaker 1: to study voting results in six states looking for that 174 00:11:14,395 --> 00:11:18,755 Speaker 1: fraud that Trump dreamt of, for voting irregularities, dead people, 175 00:11:18,795 --> 00:11:23,275 Speaker 1: voting voting machines, malfunctioning, voting by undocumented immigrants, machine tampering, 176 00:11:23,315 --> 00:11:27,995 Speaker 1: ballot harvesting votes from vacant addresses, people voting twice, voter 177 00:11:28,115 --> 00:11:33,435 Speaker 1: birth and emilies, the undead people voting anything Trump could 178 00:11:33,435 --> 00:11:36,035 Speaker 1: hang a claim of a fixed election on, and of 179 00:11:36,035 --> 00:11:39,115 Speaker 1: course they found next to nothing. And they told him 180 00:11:39,155 --> 00:11:42,515 Speaker 1: that what might be the most interesting is the timing. 181 00:11:42,555 --> 00:11:44,835 Speaker 1: This was all done and the results we got nothing 182 00:11:45,395 --> 00:11:48,595 Speaker 1: turned over before January six. Then if the timing is 183 00:11:48,595 --> 00:11:51,195 Speaker 1: more than a coincidence, it reinforces the idea that the 184 00:11:51,275 --> 00:11:53,955 Speaker 1: coup attempt was part of a sequence, but the last 185 00:11:53,995 --> 00:11:57,075 Speaker 1: part of a sequence of Trump's extra constitutional attempts to 186 00:11:57,115 --> 00:12:01,315 Speaker 1: retain power and end democracy. We also get word from 187 00:12:01,635 --> 00:12:04,155 Speaker 1: Maga Haberman and others in the New York Times, what 188 00:12:04,355 --> 00:12:07,315 Speaker 1: kind to questions Jack Smith's team has been firing at 189 00:12:07,355 --> 00:12:11,315 Speaker 1: witnesses at its grand jury, plenty of Mari Lago document questions, 190 00:12:11,555 --> 00:12:15,755 Speaker 1: plenty of January six and fake electors and fundraising questions too, 191 00:12:16,075 --> 00:12:19,635 Speaker 1: Did Trump, to quote the New York Times story, consume 192 00:12:19,915 --> 00:12:24,555 Speaker 1: detailed information about foreign countries while in office? How extensively 193 00:12:24,595 --> 00:12:27,595 Speaker 1: did he seek information about whether voting machines had been 194 00:12:27,635 --> 00:12:31,515 Speaker 1: tampered with? Did he indicate he knew he was leaving 195 00:12:31,995 --> 00:12:35,955 Speaker 1: when his term ended, and just to tie it all 196 00:12:36,035 --> 00:12:39,835 Speaker 1: neatly together. Quote, In addition to the documents and January 197 00:12:39,875 --> 00:12:43,275 Speaker 1: six investigations, Mr Smith appears to be pursuing an offshoot 198 00:12:43,275 --> 00:12:49,035 Speaker 1: of the January six case examining Save America, a pro 199 00:12:49,155 --> 00:12:52,755 Speaker 1: Trump political action committee through which Mr Trump raised millions 200 00:12:52,795 --> 00:12:56,075 Speaker 1: of dollars with his false claims of election fraud. That 201 00:12:56,155 --> 00:13:00,195 Speaker 1: investigation includes looking into how and why the committee's vendors 202 00:13:00,235 --> 00:13:07,875 Speaker 1: were paid. Wait, Save America Political Action Committee? Where have 203 00:13:07,955 --> 00:13:14,675 Speaker 1: we heard about them before? Save America pack? Oh? Right 204 00:13:15,435 --> 00:13:20,235 Speaker 1: to the tweet Caitlin Collins of CNN deleted without explanation, 205 00:13:20,395 --> 00:13:25,995 Speaker 1: quote the laptop belonged to Chamberlin Harris, who worked for 206 00:13:26,635 --> 00:13:32,155 Speaker 1: the Save America pack. I'll add this PostScript, who didn't 207 00:13:32,195 --> 00:13:36,195 Speaker 1: know she wasn't supposed to scan all those classified evening summaries. 208 00:13:36,595 --> 00:13:40,315 Speaker 1: They were only there and loosening the pile because Trump 209 00:13:40,315 --> 00:13:43,275 Speaker 1: had emptied the folders. They came in so he could 210 00:13:43,395 --> 00:13:46,195 Speaker 1: use one of those folders to cover up the light 211 00:13:46,275 --> 00:13:49,315 Speaker 1: on the phone in his bedroom that was keeping him 212 00:13:49,435 --> 00:14:08,875 Speaker 1: up at night. Still ahead, it said do not bring 213 00:14:08,915 --> 00:14:11,035 Speaker 1: your gun into the m R. I room because the 214 00:14:11,035 --> 00:14:13,475 Speaker 1: magnets could pull it off of you and it could 215 00:14:13,555 --> 00:14:16,515 Speaker 1: fire accidentally. But he is a gun rights advocate and 216 00:14:16,595 --> 00:14:20,435 Speaker 1: he'll be damned if he follows what the man says, well, 217 00:14:20,475 --> 00:14:23,955 Speaker 1: he was a gun rights advocate. CNN has its next 218 00:14:23,955 --> 00:14:27,315 Speaker 1: great news idea. First it was Gayle King, then the 219 00:14:27,355 --> 00:14:29,915 Speaker 1: bill Mark experiment that didn't go too well, and now 220 00:14:30,755 --> 00:14:35,795 Speaker 1: no way, no way. There's a football game last night. 221 00:14:35,875 --> 00:14:38,355 Speaker 1: And there was actually a mini controversy over the super 222 00:14:38,395 --> 00:14:41,195 Speaker 1: Bowl pregame show presidential interview, which if I was not 223 00:14:41,315 --> 00:14:44,515 Speaker 1: telling you did not happen, you probably would not have 224 00:14:44,635 --> 00:14:48,515 Speaker 1: noticed did not happen. I am the expert on how 225 00:14:48,555 --> 00:14:52,035 Speaker 1: politicians completely misunderstand what and how often sports fans think 226 00:14:52,075 --> 00:14:55,275 Speaker 1: of them, and the importance of politics and covering politics, 227 00:14:55,275 --> 00:14:59,795 Speaker 1: which is not much. The day they said you're gonna 228 00:14:59,795 --> 00:15:01,995 Speaker 1: have to do the Super Bowl pregame show interview with 229 00:15:02,035 --> 00:15:04,115 Speaker 1: the president because Matt lower can't get to the White 230 00:15:04,155 --> 00:15:08,115 Speaker 1: House in time, I said, can't we just cancel it? 231 00:15:08,995 --> 00:15:11,515 Speaker 1: Things I promised not to tell coming up, and a 232 00:15:11,635 --> 00:15:14,955 Speaker 1: farewell to one of the greats in my alma mater, ESPN. 233 00:15:15,515 --> 00:15:26,715 Speaker 1: That's next. This is countdown. This is countdown with Keith 234 00:15:26,795 --> 00:15:35,595 Speaker 1: Olberman changing up the order just for today for reasons 235 00:15:35,595 --> 00:15:38,955 Speaker 1: that will become evident. The Super Bowl gets decided by 236 00:15:38,995 --> 00:15:43,635 Speaker 1: a heavy breathing penalty. Derek Jeter News and a great 237 00:15:43,675 --> 00:15:46,795 Speaker 1: loss at ESPN. Ahead first the daily roundup of the miscreants, 238 00:15:46,835 --> 00:15:50,355 Speaker 1: morons and done in Kruger effect specimens who constitute today's 239 00:15:50,355 --> 00:15:56,435 Speaker 1: worst persons in the world. The bronze Leandro Matthias de 240 00:15:56,715 --> 00:16:01,195 Speaker 1: Novas of Brazil, the pro gun rights attorney, was taking 241 00:16:01,235 --> 00:16:03,515 Speaker 1: mom to get an m R I at the Laboratory 242 00:16:03,555 --> 00:16:07,595 Speaker 1: O Cora at sal Powell last month. The staff told 243 00:16:07,675 --> 00:16:10,355 Speaker 1: him the M in m r I stands for magnetic 244 00:16:10,435 --> 00:16:13,235 Speaker 1: do not wear any jewelry or metal objects when you 245 00:16:13,275 --> 00:16:16,955 Speaker 1: take your mother inside the facility. But he's a pro 246 00:16:17,075 --> 00:16:21,795 Speaker 1: gun rights attorney, or at least he was, so he 247 00:16:21,915 --> 00:16:24,795 Speaker 1: kept his god given concealed handgun and his waistband and 248 00:16:24,875 --> 00:16:27,355 Speaker 1: hot damn, the magnetic field was strong enough to pull 249 00:16:27,355 --> 00:16:30,435 Speaker 1: the gun off of his body. It apparently dropped to 250 00:16:30,475 --> 00:16:32,995 Speaker 1: the floor and fired and hit him in the stomach, 251 00:16:33,395 --> 00:16:37,275 Speaker 1: and after two weeks of hospitalization, he gone, if I 252 00:16:37,355 --> 00:16:40,315 Speaker 1: sound cruel, We began to lose our way the day 253 00:16:40,315 --> 00:16:44,275 Speaker 1: we stopped mocking these clowns. The runner up Florida Congressman 254 00:16:44,275 --> 00:16:47,475 Speaker 1: Matt Gates, speaking of mockable clowns. As soon as the 255 00:16:47,475 --> 00:16:50,275 Speaker 1: Republicans took over the House Judiciary committee. They voted that 256 00:16:50,315 --> 00:16:53,235 Speaker 1: everybody in the room would recite the pledge of allegiance 257 00:16:53,875 --> 00:16:57,635 Speaker 1: because Republicans behave like fourth graders. Well, Gates got through 258 00:16:57,755 --> 00:17:01,355 Speaker 1: select who would receive the honor of leading the first pledge, 259 00:17:01,915 --> 00:17:05,715 Speaker 1: and he selected Corey Beakman, a combat veteran of the U. S. 260 00:17:05,795 --> 00:17:09,395 Speaker 1: Army National Guard from Pensacola. And Peakman came to Washington 261 00:17:09,475 --> 00:17:11,555 Speaker 1: and showed off his purple heart and did not mention 262 00:17:11,675 --> 00:17:16,795 Speaker 1: his outstanding accusation of murder against him from two thousand nineteen, 263 00:17:16,835 --> 00:17:20,475 Speaker 1: and that whole wacky scanned off with the police thing. 264 00:17:22,435 --> 00:17:25,315 Speaker 1: Gates has apologized to the victims family, but he said, 265 00:17:25,635 --> 00:17:28,995 Speaker 1: what we were supposed to do a background check for 266 00:17:29,035 --> 00:17:33,675 Speaker 1: possible criminal activity on the guy, Yeah, Matt Gates and 267 00:17:33,715 --> 00:17:36,955 Speaker 1: his office and a background check for possible criminal activity. 268 00:17:37,035 --> 00:17:41,275 Speaker 1: That is pretty absurd, isn't it. But our winner CNN's 269 00:17:41,395 --> 00:17:46,315 Speaker 1: Chris Licked, Chairman of Worldwide News or whatever it is 270 00:17:46,555 --> 00:17:49,515 Speaker 1: they put on TV on CNN nowadays, Licked has a 271 00:17:49,635 --> 00:17:53,195 Speaker 1: prime time problem. They are all headed off the ratings cliff. 272 00:17:53,275 --> 00:17:56,515 Speaker 1: But CNN is running fastest. And let's review briefly. First, 273 00:17:56,555 --> 00:18:00,715 Speaker 1: lickt canceled Don Lemon's successful primetime show and moved him 274 00:18:00,715 --> 00:18:04,155 Speaker 1: into the mornings with two hapless co hosts, making two 275 00:18:04,155 --> 00:18:06,795 Speaker 1: holes where there had only been one. Then he tried 276 00:18:06,835 --> 00:18:09,235 Speaker 1: to get Jake Tapper to do the nine PM show, 277 00:18:09,275 --> 00:18:11,595 Speaker 1: and Jake got no ratings and then said, I need 278 00:18:11,595 --> 00:18:13,755 Speaker 1: to go back to my old shift. Then came the 279 00:18:13,955 --> 00:18:16,315 Speaker 1: let's have a comedian do the news, and the John 280 00:18:16,395 --> 00:18:19,875 Speaker 1: Stewart our Cineo Hall, Trevor Noah Rumor, even though CNN 281 00:18:20,155 --> 00:18:23,835 Speaker 1: first approached Stewart about doing the news in two thousand one. 282 00:18:24,355 --> 00:18:27,235 Speaker 1: Then like picked up the leftovers from Bill mahers eleven 283 00:18:27,275 --> 00:18:30,835 Speaker 1: PM show on HBO and put them on CNN eleven 284 00:18:30,875 --> 00:18:34,515 Speaker 1: thirty Friday nights and CNNs ratings went down. And then 285 00:18:34,515 --> 00:18:37,275 Speaker 1: he wanted to hire gayl King even though she's on 286 00:18:37,315 --> 00:18:39,075 Speaker 1: in the morning and mornings are not the same as 287 00:18:39,075 --> 00:18:43,075 Speaker 1: the evenings. And now per Puck News, Leaked has decided 288 00:18:43,075 --> 00:18:45,995 Speaker 1: on what quote could be the boldest and potentially most 289 00:18:45,995 --> 00:18:50,075 Speaker 1: disruptive programming move. Licked is now in negotiations to bring 290 00:18:51,315 --> 00:18:58,915 Speaker 1: Charles Barkley to CNN for a news oriented primetime show Listen. 291 00:18:59,715 --> 00:19:05,075 Speaker 1: I am the last person to say you have a 292 00:19:05,155 --> 00:19:08,915 Speaker 1: sports guide to a news show, but even if this 293 00:19:09,035 --> 00:19:12,355 Speaker 1: were a good idea, Charles Barkley is already on TV 294 00:19:12,675 --> 00:19:15,835 Speaker 1: a lot, and he likes his time off. I know 295 00:19:15,995 --> 00:19:18,875 Speaker 1: him thirty five years. I can't imagine he knows what 296 00:19:18,915 --> 00:19:21,795 Speaker 1: the workload would be like this, even if he is interested, 297 00:19:22,075 --> 00:19:25,795 Speaker 1: and there is no particular reason Turner Sports would just say, sure, 298 00:19:26,515 --> 00:19:29,715 Speaker 1: take him off our successful network so you can put 299 00:19:29,795 --> 00:19:34,155 Speaker 1: him on your failing one. But look, Chris licked. Everything 300 00:19:34,235 --> 00:19:37,875 Speaker 1: else you've thought out so far has gone well, hasn't it. 301 00:19:38,755 --> 00:19:40,915 Speaker 1: CNN's Chris did I mention that when he and I 302 00:19:40,955 --> 00:19:42,915 Speaker 1: worked together at MSN, we see we used to think 303 00:19:42,915 --> 00:19:50,075 Speaker 1: he ate paste licked two days worse, Parson and the World. 304 00:20:11,235 --> 00:20:17,515 Speaker 1: This is Sports Center, Wait, check that not anymore. This 305 00:20:18,515 --> 00:20:25,115 Speaker 1: is Countdown with Keith Alberman in sports My Jalen hurts 306 00:20:25,155 --> 00:20:28,755 Speaker 1: in the worst possible way. The Super Bowl decided on 307 00:20:28,795 --> 00:20:32,195 Speaker 1: a penalty that will go into the books as defensive holding, 308 00:20:32,795 --> 00:20:36,955 Speaker 1: but look more like defensive breathing. The Chiefs beat the 309 00:20:36,995 --> 00:20:41,035 Speaker 1: Eagles five in one. Had been a spectacular super Bowl 310 00:20:41,155 --> 00:20:45,115 Speaker 1: until one minute and fifty two seconds remained. That's when 311 00:20:45,195 --> 00:20:47,955 Speaker 1: tied at thirty five, third and eight for Casey at 312 00:20:47,995 --> 00:20:52,475 Speaker 1: the Philly fifteen Casey quarterback Pat Mahomes missed receiver Jujuice 313 00:20:52,515 --> 00:20:56,435 Speaker 1: Smith Schuster, but the officiating crew called a penalty on 314 00:20:56,475 --> 00:21:01,755 Speaker 1: Philadelphia defender James Bradbury covering Kansas City's Smith Schuster and 315 00:21:01,835 --> 00:21:04,235 Speaker 1: giving Patrick Mahomes in Kansas City at first down at 316 00:21:04,235 --> 00:21:07,555 Speaker 1: the eleven Harrison Butker's field goal a minute forty six 317 00:21:07,715 --> 00:21:11,875 Speaker 1: later gave the Chiefs the Crown. Replays showed Philadelphia's Bradberry 318 00:21:11,995 --> 00:21:14,115 Speaker 1: was guilty less of a hold and more of a 319 00:21:15,595 --> 00:21:19,235 Speaker 1: on smith Schuster. At minimum, even if there actually was 320 00:21:19,355 --> 00:21:22,875 Speaker 1: some technical infraction there, it did not slow the receiver down, 321 00:21:23,275 --> 00:21:26,595 Speaker 1: nor did it alter his route. It was ridiculous and 322 00:21:26,755 --> 00:21:31,115 Speaker 1: especially ridiculous to decide the Super Bowl on and unfortunately, 323 00:21:31,835 --> 00:21:34,235 Speaker 1: and no, I am not suggesting there was a fix 324 00:21:34,595 --> 00:21:37,955 Speaker 1: or a corrupt official or gambling or anything. But if 325 00:21:37,995 --> 00:21:41,515 Speaker 1: the reality of legal gambling as a principal income stream 326 00:21:41,915 --> 00:21:44,755 Speaker 1: for the National Football League and all the other sports leagues, 327 00:21:45,195 --> 00:21:48,475 Speaker 1: the problem with that was not apparent before it became 328 00:21:48,675 --> 00:21:53,235 Speaker 1: really obvious last night. The ads and the really ticky 329 00:21:53,315 --> 00:21:56,115 Speaker 1: tacky call that decided the most waged on sporting event 330 00:21:56,235 --> 00:22:01,875 Speaker 1: in the country combined to smell just awful sadly this 331 00:22:01,955 --> 00:22:05,155 Speaker 1: all suggests that, and no, there was not one last night, 332 00:22:05,195 --> 00:22:08,755 Speaker 1: but within a decade there will be an NFL game 333 00:22:08,835 --> 00:22:12,995 Speaker 1: fixing or point shaving scandal, more likely point shaving, maybe 334 00:22:13,075 --> 00:22:16,035 Speaker 1: even in the Super Bowl, because there are lots of 335 00:22:16,275 --> 00:22:20,755 Speaker 1: very low paid NFL employees of all kinds who can 336 00:22:20,835 --> 00:22:24,115 Speaker 1: influence the outcome of a game, and they no longer 337 00:22:24,195 --> 00:22:26,755 Speaker 1: have to get into the bed with the mob to 338 00:22:26,955 --> 00:22:28,915 Speaker 1: influence the outcome of a game. They can do it 339 00:22:28,995 --> 00:22:32,675 Speaker 1: themselves and then just go and bet on it themselves. 340 00:22:33,955 --> 00:22:36,755 Speaker 1: And if you don't think they have already been Super 341 00:22:36,755 --> 00:22:39,475 Speaker 1: Bowl gambling scandals, I refer you as ever to the 342 00:22:39,515 --> 00:22:43,395 Speaker 1: best book on football's history ever written, Interference by Dan 343 00:22:43,515 --> 00:22:48,995 Speaker 1: Mouldea m O. L. D e. A Interference. As to 344 00:22:49,035 --> 00:22:52,275 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl ads, they were really bad. They've been 345 00:22:52,395 --> 00:22:55,315 Speaker 1: overrated for years, as you know, try to remember the 346 00:22:55,315 --> 00:23:00,355 Speaker 1: best one from which one was it, what was the product, 347 00:23:00,915 --> 00:23:03,915 Speaker 1: who was in it? Speaking of smells, I can still 348 00:23:03,955 --> 00:23:06,835 Speaker 1: get a whiff of the Caddyshack ones, and that's still 349 00:23:06,875 --> 00:23:10,475 Speaker 1: available in my nose right now. Also the good one, 350 00:23:10,515 --> 00:23:13,075 Speaker 1: the ram spot about being afraid of buying an electric 351 00:23:13,115 --> 00:23:17,355 Speaker 1: truck for fear of premature electrification. Wasn't there Some sportscaster 352 00:23:17,515 --> 00:23:20,955 Speaker 1: used to talk about teams or players celebrating to soon 353 00:23:21,715 --> 00:23:27,395 Speaker 1: and he used this stupid catch phrase, premature jocularity for 354 00:23:27,515 --> 00:23:31,875 Speaker 1: you know, like thirty years on Sports Center, Fox Sports, 355 00:23:31,915 --> 00:23:35,315 Speaker 1: and BC Football local news in l A and Boston. 356 00:23:35,555 --> 00:23:39,955 Speaker 1: Wasn't there some guy used to do that Before the game. 357 00:23:40,035 --> 00:23:43,195 Speaker 1: Fox made a baseball announcement they are adding Derek Jeter 358 00:23:43,595 --> 00:23:46,035 Speaker 1: to their pregame show. This is kind of amazing because 359 00:23:46,035 --> 00:23:50,075 Speaker 1: one of the points of Derek Jeter's baseball life these 360 00:23:50,155 --> 00:23:53,315 Speaker 1: last twenty seven years has been never to say anything 361 00:23:53,435 --> 00:23:56,675 Speaker 1: of interest about baseball or anything else in public, so 362 00:23:56,755 --> 00:23:59,915 Speaker 1: it'll fit right in on the Fox pregame show. Fox 363 00:23:59,915 --> 00:24:02,995 Speaker 1: has been hiring ex superstars since they got baseball in 364 00:24:04,035 --> 00:24:07,715 Speaker 1: and none of them has ever said anything. But one 365 00:24:07,835 --> 00:24:10,835 Speaker 1: non superstar they put on the pregame show was Steve Lyons, 366 00:24:11,235 --> 00:24:14,195 Speaker 1: who I worked with in two thousand when I did 367 00:24:14,195 --> 00:24:18,595 Speaker 1: the pregame show and we hated each other, but he 368 00:24:18,715 --> 00:24:22,315 Speaker 1: said lots of stuff and although most of it was wrong, 369 00:24:23,195 --> 00:24:25,115 Speaker 1: I still did my best to showcase him and one 370 00:24:25,195 --> 00:24:26,435 Speaker 1: year I did it too well and he won the 371 00:24:26,475 --> 00:24:30,435 Speaker 1: Emmy Award as Best Studio sports analyst, and trust me, 372 00:24:30,475 --> 00:24:34,155 Speaker 1: this guy Lions couldn't spell emmy, so now they're gonna 373 00:24:34,155 --> 00:24:39,515 Speaker 1: have Derek Jeter saying he looked really good out there. Lastly, 374 00:24:39,595 --> 00:24:42,635 Speaker 1: and continuing on the theme of TV sports a terrible 375 00:24:42,715 --> 00:24:45,955 Speaker 1: day for almost anybody who ever worked at ESPN. The 376 00:24:45,995 --> 00:24:48,475 Speaker 1: first time I ever anchored Sports Center, they broke me 377 00:24:48,515 --> 00:24:50,875 Speaker 1: in a couple of nights on the two am edition. 378 00:24:51,635 --> 00:24:55,155 Speaker 1: The coordinating producer of that show was a veteran, larger 379 00:24:55,155 --> 00:24:57,635 Speaker 1: than life guy in a big black beard and an 380 00:24:57,635 --> 00:25:01,795 Speaker 1: even bigger sweater vest and a big voice. And I 381 00:25:01,795 --> 00:25:03,755 Speaker 1: would work with him on and off in my first 382 00:25:03,795 --> 00:25:08,115 Speaker 1: tenure there, and a end later something almost everybody could say. 383 00:25:08,195 --> 00:25:10,635 Speaker 1: He was the big picture guy for the company. He 384 00:25:10,715 --> 00:25:13,155 Speaker 1: worked on the late sports centers, the early sports centers, 385 00:25:13,155 --> 00:25:16,675 Speaker 1: the weekend sports centers, college basketball shows, hockey shows, football shows, 386 00:25:16,915 --> 00:25:20,635 Speaker 1: special shows. And all the producers I worked with, they're 387 00:25:20,715 --> 00:25:24,435 Speaker 1: only one of them, did not try to indoctrinate me 388 00:25:24,955 --> 00:25:29,835 Speaker 1: on the Bristol way of doing things. Barry Sacks would 389 00:25:29,835 --> 00:25:32,315 Speaker 1: wait until his bosses were not around and then ask, 390 00:25:32,915 --> 00:25:34,755 Speaker 1: how did you handle something like this in l A 391 00:25:35,755 --> 00:25:40,035 Speaker 1: or Kyo? What would you do here? One time there 392 00:25:40,075 --> 00:25:43,235 Speaker 1: was a heated exchange over something Laurd knows what. There 393 00:25:43,275 --> 00:25:45,755 Speaker 1: were a lot of them and Barry just stood their 394 00:25:45,915 --> 00:25:48,075 Speaker 1: arms folded, and when the executive left, he closed the 395 00:25:48,075 --> 00:25:50,875 Speaker 1: door and he said, you're right. Actually we're right. I 396 00:25:50,915 --> 00:25:53,475 Speaker 1: agree with you, and we're never going to convince him 397 00:25:53,515 --> 00:25:56,235 Speaker 1: of that. So how about this, You start doing this 398 00:25:56,315 --> 00:25:59,515 Speaker 1: their way. Let me go massage them, give me half 399 00:25:59,515 --> 00:26:01,595 Speaker 1: an hour and see how much of your way I 400 00:26:01,635 --> 00:26:05,115 Speaker 1: can get them to agree to. Don't get me wrong, 401 00:26:05,795 --> 00:26:09,195 Speaker 1: Barry Sacks was an ESPN salesman. What we did mattered, 402 00:26:09,915 --> 00:26:13,475 Speaker 1: every show affected the brand. Anything less than the best 403 00:26:13,875 --> 00:26:16,275 Speaker 1: was insufficient, and he would come down on you like 404 00:26:16,355 --> 00:26:20,555 Speaker 1: a ton of bricks. But to the managers there, Barry 405 00:26:20,635 --> 00:26:24,435 Speaker 1: was a manager management guy. To the talent, Barry was 406 00:26:24,475 --> 00:26:28,995 Speaker 1: a talent friendly talent guy. To me, Barry seemed to 407 00:26:28,995 --> 00:26:32,715 Speaker 1: be the guy who was trying to be right in 408 00:26:32,795 --> 00:26:36,235 Speaker 1: whatever the situation called for. He and I understood each 409 00:26:36,275 --> 00:26:39,435 Speaker 1: other on that. About three years in we found out 410 00:26:39,435 --> 00:26:42,275 Speaker 1: that we had both interned for the same New York 411 00:26:42,315 --> 00:26:44,995 Speaker 1: City sportscaster named Bill Maser, and we did it in 412 00:26:45,035 --> 00:26:49,515 Speaker 1: consecutive years. Barry was at ESPN for more than three 413 00:26:49,515 --> 00:26:52,035 Speaker 1: decades and then he joined the sports journalism faculty at 414 00:26:52,075 --> 00:26:55,315 Speaker 1: Quinnipiac College. And Saturday came the terrible news that Barry 415 00:26:55,355 --> 00:26:58,515 Speaker 1: Sachs had suffered a massive heart attack, and yesterday came 416 00:26:58,555 --> 00:27:00,355 Speaker 1: the worst news that he had died at the age 417 00:27:00,355 --> 00:27:04,955 Speaker 1: of sixty three. Barry Sacks was able to be both 418 00:27:04,995 --> 00:27:08,555 Speaker 1: that over the top ESPN salesman I mentioned, and also 419 00:27:08,595 --> 00:27:11,035 Speaker 1: the guy who knew he was being over the top 420 00:27:11,075 --> 00:27:14,315 Speaker 1: and enjoyed letting you in both on the hyperbole and 421 00:27:14,555 --> 00:27:17,475 Speaker 1: his self awareness of the hyperbole. And he had one 422 00:27:17,555 --> 00:27:20,195 Speaker 1: phrase that he used a lot in the nineties that 423 00:27:20,315 --> 00:27:24,195 Speaker 1: summarize that if he wasn't saying it's somebody was quoting 424 00:27:24,275 --> 00:27:29,235 Speaker 1: him saying it. This is ESPN. Every day is the 425 00:27:29,275 --> 00:27:33,675 Speaker 1: Super Bowl. And Barry Sachs died on the day of 426 00:27:33,675 --> 00:27:43,635 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, still ahead on countdown. I'm sure you 427 00:27:43,675 --> 00:27:46,315 Speaker 1: are still furious about the Super Bowl. How could they 428 00:27:46,435 --> 00:27:52,035 Speaker 1: possibly not have interviewed the president? I know, I know 429 00:27:52,155 --> 00:27:55,355 Speaker 1: you don't care. I don't care, But there is a 430 00:27:55,395 --> 00:27:58,395 Speaker 1: city where today that is the story and the only story. 431 00:27:59,355 --> 00:28:03,875 Speaker 1: For insulation and self absorption, no one is worse than politicians. 432 00:28:04,275 --> 00:28:08,075 Speaker 1: Exce up the people who cover politicians. Things I promised 433 00:28:08,115 --> 00:28:12,515 Speaker 1: not to tell about Super Bowl presidential interviews. Next first, 434 00:28:12,555 --> 00:28:14,635 Speaker 1: in each addition of Countdown, we feature a dog in need. 435 00:28:14,675 --> 00:28:17,315 Speaker 1: You can help. Every dog has its day to St. 436 00:28:17,395 --> 00:28:20,955 Speaker 1: Louis and Theodore, and with a father named Theodore and 437 00:28:20,995 --> 00:28:25,315 Speaker 1: a dog named Ted, you can understand my particular concern this. 438 00:28:25,475 --> 00:28:28,315 Speaker 1: Theodore looks to be a shepherd puppy. He's just four 439 00:28:28,355 --> 00:28:30,075 Speaker 1: weeks old. He should still be in the care of 440 00:28:30,155 --> 00:28:34,915 Speaker 1: his mother. He's not. He's sick parasites mange. How he 441 00:28:34,955 --> 00:28:37,595 Speaker 1: got away from her, we don't know, but saving St. 442 00:28:37,635 --> 00:28:40,155 Speaker 1: Louis Pats is trying to take care of him. So far, 443 00:28:40,315 --> 00:28:42,275 Speaker 1: so good, but he's going to have to be in 444 00:28:42,315 --> 00:28:46,035 Speaker 1: a vets care for at least another four weeks, probably longer. Honestly, 445 00:28:46,035 --> 00:28:48,635 Speaker 1: they're just trying to raise seven for him on Cuddly. 446 00:28:48,995 --> 00:28:51,595 Speaker 1: If you can help, you can find Theodore there or 447 00:28:51,675 --> 00:28:55,355 Speaker 1: on my Twitter feed. I thank you, and Theodore thanks 448 00:28:55,355 --> 00:29:06,555 Speaker 1: you to the number one story on the Countdown and 449 00:29:06,675 --> 00:29:09,555 Speaker 1: my favorite topic, me and things I promised not to tell. 450 00:29:10,275 --> 00:29:13,395 Speaker 1: And I'd like to think of myself as expert in 451 00:29:13,475 --> 00:29:17,235 Speaker 1: many things, many things more than I am actually expert in. 452 00:29:17,995 --> 00:29:20,515 Speaker 1: But there are one, maybe two things in which I 453 00:29:20,515 --> 00:29:25,115 Speaker 1: am genuinely the expert of experts, and one of them 454 00:29:25,315 --> 00:29:29,435 Speaker 1: is the overlap between sports and politics, in particular about 455 00:29:29,635 --> 00:29:33,315 Speaker 1: media and sports and politics. I anchored the inauguration of 456 00:29:33,315 --> 00:29:38,795 Speaker 1: Barack Obama as president on January two thousand nine on MSNBC, 457 00:29:38,995 --> 00:29:42,635 Speaker 1: and twelve days later, I co anchored the three hours 458 00:29:42,715 --> 00:29:47,275 Speaker 1: Super Bowl pregame show on NBC, and I am freshly 459 00:29:47,315 --> 00:29:51,915 Speaker 1: reminded of the amazing but hurt delusion of the political 460 00:29:51,995 --> 00:29:57,675 Speaker 1: media industrial complex about where it thinks it's personnel, government officials, 461 00:29:57,675 --> 00:30:02,315 Speaker 1: political entities, politicians, pundits, reporters, news organizations where they rank 462 00:30:02,395 --> 00:30:08,235 Speaker 1: in the grand scheme of things, especially compared to sports officials, 463 00:30:08,755 --> 00:30:14,195 Speaker 1: sports team and league entities, sports executives, sports pundits, sports reporters, 464 00:30:14,395 --> 00:30:20,275 Speaker 1: sports organizations, or, if you're in Canada, sports organizations. Many 465 00:30:20,555 --> 00:30:24,235 Speaker 1: political people are true sports fans and thus have a 466 00:30:24,275 --> 00:30:27,875 Speaker 1: truer sense of this comparison, which they largely keep to 467 00:30:27,915 --> 00:30:31,795 Speaker 1: themselves for reasons which will become obvious. But countless numbers 468 00:30:31,835 --> 00:30:35,115 Speaker 1: of political people believe that, on a scale of one 469 00:30:35,195 --> 00:30:39,075 Speaker 1: to a hundred, sports in this country is about a fifty, 470 00:30:39,155 --> 00:30:44,955 Speaker 1: I guess, and political stuff is a ninety five. The 471 00:30:45,035 --> 00:30:49,075 Speaker 1: reality is sports in this country is about a seventy 472 00:30:49,195 --> 00:30:54,515 Speaker 1: and political stuff is about three three and a half. 473 00:30:55,915 --> 00:31:00,195 Speaker 1: Nearly all political people enjoy being in politics, and simply 474 00:31:00,315 --> 00:31:05,635 Speaker 1: assume that thus everybody else enjoys politics in the same way. 475 00:31:05,715 --> 00:31:09,595 Speaker 1: In point of fact, almost nobody not in politics enjoys 476 00:31:09,675 --> 00:31:13,475 Speaker 1: politics at all. What the political people think of their 477 00:31:13,515 --> 00:31:19,355 Speaker 1: world and it's incandescent attractiveness, and thus their own incandescent 478 00:31:19,395 --> 00:31:24,115 Speaker 1: attractiveness is actually what the world of sports is really like. 479 00:31:24,395 --> 00:31:27,035 Speaker 1: Virtually everybody in sports wakes up in the morning, at 480 00:31:27,115 --> 00:31:29,995 Speaker 1: least most of the time, shouting, yeah, I make a 481 00:31:30,035 --> 00:31:34,515 Speaker 1: living in sports, and virtually everybody watching sports wakes up 482 00:31:34,515 --> 00:31:37,235 Speaker 1: in the morning shouting, maybe today I'll find a way 483 00:31:37,235 --> 00:31:41,235 Speaker 1: to make a living off sports. You will never convince 484 00:31:42,075 --> 00:31:45,835 Speaker 1: the non sports people in politics that this is even 485 00:31:46,035 --> 00:31:51,515 Speaker 1: remotely true. The day before the Super Bowl, the newsletter 486 00:31:51,595 --> 00:31:57,195 Speaker 1: of the website Political lead with for ten paragraphs quote 487 00:31:57,675 --> 00:32:04,195 Speaker 1: Biden's Fox News snub. This morning, Political wrote in all 488 00:32:04,315 --> 00:32:08,155 Speaker 1: series Business, we have to ask, was that such a 489 00:32:08,195 --> 00:32:12,155 Speaker 1: good idea? Biden just passed up a critical opportunity to 490 00:32:12,275 --> 00:32:14,995 Speaker 1: speak to millions of Americans who ignored his state of 491 00:32:15,035 --> 00:32:17,675 Speaker 1: the Union, But sure as hell won't miss the super 492 00:32:17,715 --> 00:32:21,875 Speaker 1: Bowl one that comes ahead of a likely re election 493 00:32:21,995 --> 00:32:31,355 Speaker 1: campaign launch. This just in nobody watches the presidential interview 494 00:32:32,195 --> 00:32:37,515 Speaker 1: in the super Bowl pregame show. Nobody, not when it 495 00:32:37,555 --> 00:32:40,755 Speaker 1: was Biden, not when it was Trump, not when it 496 00:32:40,835 --> 00:32:45,395 Speaker 1: was Obama, not when it was Bush. It may be 497 00:32:45,795 --> 00:32:50,155 Speaker 1: on in tens of millions of American homes, people may 498 00:32:50,275 --> 00:32:52,995 Speaker 1: even not change the channel. But in the world of 499 00:32:53,035 --> 00:32:58,475 Speaker 1: places like Politico, the president appears on television, and every viewer, 500 00:32:59,275 --> 00:33:02,715 Speaker 1: be he alone or at the largest Super Bowl party imaginable, 501 00:33:02,955 --> 00:33:06,355 Speaker 1: every viewer not only goes in demically silent, but hushes 502 00:33:06,395 --> 00:33:08,835 Speaker 1: everybody else in the room and says, wait, we have 503 00:33:08,995 --> 00:33:12,635 Speaker 1: to have to listen to this. I do not know 504 00:33:12,715 --> 00:33:19,035 Speaker 1: of this having ever happened anywhere. He should reliship chance 505 00:33:19,075 --> 00:33:22,875 Speaker 1: to spar with his conservative critics. Some Democrats would argue. 506 00:33:24,195 --> 00:33:31,115 Speaker 1: This goes on for ten paragraphs later, much later, same newsletter, 507 00:33:31,475 --> 00:33:34,675 Speaker 1: the startling news that Trump permitted classified documents to be 508 00:33:34,755 --> 00:33:38,475 Speaker 1: uploaded to a campaign staffers laptop and thumb drive, which 509 00:33:38,515 --> 00:33:43,075 Speaker 1: would be an entirely new crime that got one sentence 510 00:33:43,635 --> 00:33:48,395 Speaker 1: in this same document, the ten paragraphs about the greatest 511 00:33:48,555 --> 00:33:51,235 Speaker 1: story of Super Bowl weekend, that there would not be 512 00:33:51,315 --> 00:33:54,515 Speaker 1: a Fox interview of Joe Biden, not by Brett Bear, 513 00:33:54,875 --> 00:33:58,715 Speaker 1: not by a Fox website with the oxymoronic name Fox Soul, 514 00:34:00,275 --> 00:34:05,035 Speaker 1: then linked to an actual thirteen further paragraphs with what 515 00:34:05,115 --> 00:34:08,835 Speaker 1: a political writer named Christopher Catalago must have thought was 516 00:34:08,875 --> 00:34:12,675 Speaker 1: a funny lead quote, America will have to settle for 517 00:34:12,715 --> 00:34:17,715 Speaker 1: the Puppy Bowl. The Puppy Bowl is there for people 518 00:34:17,755 --> 00:34:21,035 Speaker 1: who do not want to watch the Super Bowl. I 519 00:34:21,075 --> 00:34:25,995 Speaker 1: mean there might be some overlap. Let's put it this way. 520 00:34:26,475 --> 00:34:28,235 Speaker 1: At least it's there for people who don't want to 521 00:34:28,235 --> 00:34:31,275 Speaker 1: watch the super Bowl pregame show, and it's in the 522 00:34:31,315 --> 00:34:34,635 Speaker 1: Super Bowl pregame show where the presidential interview ordinarily runs. 523 00:34:34,675 --> 00:34:38,475 Speaker 1: The Puppy Bowl gets somewhere around a million, seven hundred 524 00:34:38,515 --> 00:34:40,995 Speaker 1: thousand viewers, sometimes a little more, sometimes a little less. 525 00:34:41,235 --> 00:34:45,035 Speaker 1: The whole five hours of Super Bowl pregame averages at 526 00:34:45,075 --> 00:34:50,475 Speaker 1: any given moment twenty million viewers. Anyway, I said, I 527 00:34:50,515 --> 00:34:55,475 Speaker 1: was the expert on this particular sub subject. When radio 528 00:34:55,555 --> 00:34:57,315 Speaker 1: began in this country, it was common for each of 529 00:34:57,355 --> 00:35:01,115 Speaker 1: the handful of networks to have lead announcers who were 530 00:35:01,115 --> 00:35:06,275 Speaker 1: supposed to be able to do anything ted using broadcast 531 00:35:06,315 --> 00:35:09,755 Speaker 1: the World Series for CBS, and the Rose Bowl and 532 00:35:09,915 --> 00:35:14,555 Speaker 1: the big growing regattas and major news stories like floods. 533 00:35:14,595 --> 00:35:17,835 Speaker 1: He anchored the political conventions, and he did the inauguration 534 00:35:17,875 --> 00:35:22,475 Speaker 1: every four years. As TV took over, those jobs became specialized, 535 00:35:22,755 --> 00:35:26,355 Speaker 1: and there is still some overlap in one area, the Olympics. 536 00:35:26,395 --> 00:35:29,795 Speaker 1: Everybody from Walter Cronkite to Bob Costas to Katie Curic 537 00:35:29,875 --> 00:35:32,875 Speaker 1: have hosted the Olympics. I was supposed to do it twice, 538 00:35:33,435 --> 00:35:36,475 Speaker 1: but from two thousand six through two thousand nine I 539 00:35:36,595 --> 00:35:40,395 Speaker 1: anchored election Nights on MSNBC and Football Night in America 540 00:35:40,555 --> 00:35:43,875 Speaker 1: on NBC, and I did five political shows a week 541 00:35:43,955 --> 00:35:46,835 Speaker 1: on cable and an hour a day on Dan Patrick's 542 00:35:47,035 --> 00:35:51,675 Speaker 1: ESPN radio sports show. I am the overlap. And in fact, 543 00:35:51,675 --> 00:35:53,515 Speaker 1: in two thousand nine, when I went right from the 544 00:35:53,515 --> 00:35:56,555 Speaker 1: Inauguration to Tampa for the Super Bowl, there was a glitch. 545 00:35:57,075 --> 00:35:59,195 Speaker 1: On the afternoon of the Super Bowl game, if I 546 00:35:59,195 --> 00:36:03,875 Speaker 1: remember right, Matt Lower was on a stuck train or 547 00:36:03,915 --> 00:36:07,075 Speaker 1: a plane that had been grounded at an airport somewhere, 548 00:36:07,355 --> 00:36:10,035 Speaker 1: and they were convinced he was not going to get 549 00:36:10,075 --> 00:36:13,875 Speaker 1: to the White House in time to interview Barack Obama live. 550 00:36:14,795 --> 00:36:18,395 Speaker 1: So said our producer Michael Weisman during the commercial break, 551 00:36:18,635 --> 00:36:21,315 Speaker 1: What do you want to ask Obama? Because laur is 552 00:36:21,355 --> 00:36:23,195 Speaker 1: not going to make it to the White House, He's 553 00:36:23,195 --> 00:36:27,955 Speaker 1: got like five minutes. Assume it's gonna be you. And 554 00:36:27,995 --> 00:36:29,915 Speaker 1: I said, I can just ask him everything. I would 555 00:36:29,915 --> 00:36:32,275 Speaker 1: have asked him on if he'd been on Countdown Friday night. 556 00:36:32,275 --> 00:36:34,395 Speaker 1: But that's not the point. Why don't we take this 557 00:36:34,475 --> 00:36:39,075 Speaker 1: opportunity to not do the interview? I mean, you know, 558 00:36:39,315 --> 00:36:41,475 Speaker 1: if Lauer can't make it, let's just say lower can't 559 00:36:41,475 --> 00:36:44,915 Speaker 1: make it, so we canceled it. Who's gonna notice? Who 560 00:36:44,955 --> 00:36:48,835 Speaker 1: listens to this interview? Why do we do it? Doesn't 561 00:36:48,875 --> 00:36:52,235 Speaker 1: anybody know that when a politician steps into the middle 562 00:36:52,315 --> 00:36:56,515 Speaker 1: of a sporting event, it always hurts him. I was 563 00:36:56,555 --> 00:36:58,915 Speaker 1: in the middle of this when Weissman said, Okay, law 564 00:36:59,115 --> 00:37:01,075 Speaker 1: just showed up at the White House. Do you need 565 00:37:01,155 --> 00:37:05,835 Speaker 1: help getting down from your high horace? Keith? Well, all right, 566 00:37:05,875 --> 00:37:07,275 Speaker 1: I might have been on a high horse, but I 567 00:37:07,315 --> 00:37:10,875 Speaker 1: was serious. People don't believe when I, of all people say, 568 00:37:10,915 --> 00:37:13,875 Speaker 1: I do not like it when sports and politics get mixed. 569 00:37:14,115 --> 00:37:17,035 Speaker 1: But what I mean by that is if athletes have 570 00:37:17,155 --> 00:37:20,355 Speaker 1: political opinions, or they take political stances. If Colin Kaepernick 571 00:37:20,395 --> 00:37:23,595 Speaker 1: Neils or John Carlos and Tommy Smith give a Black 572 00:37:23,635 --> 00:37:27,075 Speaker 1: Power salute, or some maga golfer goes all political with 573 00:37:27,155 --> 00:37:31,875 Speaker 1: his putts, that's a sports story, you have to cover it. 574 00:37:32,875 --> 00:37:41,235 Speaker 1: But politicians or sportscasters. Politicians injecting themselves into sports, sportscasters 575 00:37:41,275 --> 00:37:45,315 Speaker 1: injecting themselves into politics, or injecting politics into their sports casts. 576 00:37:47,435 --> 00:37:50,795 Speaker 1: This started with Richard Nixon phoning the Kansas City Chiefs 577 00:37:50,795 --> 00:37:53,515 Speaker 1: locker room after they won the nineteen seventies Super Bowl, 578 00:37:53,675 --> 00:37:56,835 Speaker 1: and it was as cringe worthy then as it is now. 579 00:37:58,275 --> 00:38:01,155 Speaker 1: Ronald Reagan advanced it to inviting winning teams to the 580 00:38:01,155 --> 00:38:05,075 Speaker 1: White House. Soon it was whoever was president invited any 581 00:38:05,115 --> 00:38:08,115 Speaker 1: team in any league to the White House. It is 582 00:38:08,315 --> 00:38:13,435 Speaker 1: pure political exploitation and it has never stopped making me flinch. 583 00:38:14,275 --> 00:38:17,595 Speaker 1: And in two thousand four we fell into this Super 584 00:38:17,635 --> 00:38:21,835 Speaker 1: Bowl interview trap when CBS and Jim Nance inexplicably interviewed 585 00:38:21,835 --> 00:38:25,475 Speaker 1: George W. Bush. Trump would not do the interview with 586 00:38:25,555 --> 00:38:28,115 Speaker 1: NBC in two thousand eighteen, and to my mind, that 587 00:38:28,235 --> 00:38:33,435 Speaker 1: was his greatest act as president, his one selfless decision 588 00:38:34,035 --> 00:38:37,795 Speaker 1: and I swear if Joe Biden were any other president, 589 00:38:38,795 --> 00:38:42,755 Speaker 1: would record a video saying, Hey, this is the Super Bowl, 590 00:38:43,275 --> 00:38:47,315 Speaker 1: no politics today, enjoy the game. It would probably goose 591 00:38:47,515 --> 00:38:53,475 Speaker 1: his approval ratings. Forty years ago, when I was with 592 00:38:53,595 --> 00:38:56,875 Speaker 1: CNN Sports, they sent me to Washington for the week 593 00:38:57,115 --> 00:39:01,035 Speaker 1: because the Locals were playing the Raiders in the Super Bowl. 594 00:39:01,315 --> 00:39:03,915 Speaker 1: I covered the celebrations that night when they won, and 595 00:39:03,915 --> 00:39:07,115 Speaker 1: then the victory parade outdoors in a driving rainstorm, and 596 00:39:07,115 --> 00:39:10,475 Speaker 1: the head tech guy for CNN Washington assigned himself to 597 00:39:10,555 --> 00:39:12,995 Speaker 1: run the lights and he got shocked so badly he 598 00:39:13,035 --> 00:39:16,155 Speaker 1: had to go sit in the truck for an hour. Anyway, 599 00:39:16,195 --> 00:39:19,155 Speaker 1: I also covered the team's flight home to d C. 600 00:39:19,955 --> 00:39:22,235 Speaker 1: And I went to the airport and interview players and 601 00:39:22,315 --> 00:39:24,875 Speaker 1: went back to the bureau and I edited my story 602 00:39:25,035 --> 00:39:27,475 Speaker 1: and we were about to feed my piece to headquarters 603 00:39:27,475 --> 00:39:30,795 Speaker 1: in Atlanta when the assignment editor for CNN Washington literally 604 00:39:30,915 --> 00:39:34,795 Speaker 1: ran through the studio screaming stop, stop. And when she 605 00:39:34,875 --> 00:39:37,395 Speaker 1: got to me, she said, Reagan's plane just landed. We 606 00:39:37,435 --> 00:39:41,355 Speaker 1: have ten seconds of him saying go redskins on the tarmact. 607 00:39:41,395 --> 00:39:44,355 Speaker 1: I know you'll want to lead with that. And I 608 00:39:44,435 --> 00:39:48,835 Speaker 1: just looked at her and said, what sports fan wants 609 00:39:48,875 --> 00:39:52,795 Speaker 1: to hear from a politician instead of the winning quarterback. 610 00:39:54,035 --> 00:39:57,355 Speaker 1: You would have thought I had slapped her in the face. 611 00:39:58,235 --> 00:40:03,355 Speaker 1: She backed away slowly. I told the engineer, just feed 612 00:40:03,395 --> 00:40:06,995 Speaker 1: the tape. It's done. All this reminds me of a 613 00:40:07,075 --> 00:40:10,755 Speaker 1: Rudy Giuliani memory I had completely suppressed until I started 614 00:40:10,755 --> 00:40:14,315 Speaker 1: down the writing route. On this one, I anchored what 615 00:40:14,515 --> 00:40:16,875 Speaker 1: must have been an hour from the New York Yankees 616 00:40:16,915 --> 00:40:19,635 Speaker 1: clubhouse at Chase Stadium after they won the two thousand 617 00:40:19,675 --> 00:40:22,355 Speaker 1: World Series over the New York Mets. I was with 618 00:40:22,435 --> 00:40:25,475 Speaker 1: Fox Sports and we had televised the series, and part 619 00:40:25,475 --> 00:40:28,355 Speaker 1: of the deal was we got our own little part 620 00:40:28,355 --> 00:40:31,915 Speaker 1: of the winning team's clubhouse cordoned off, I mean with 621 00:40:31,995 --> 00:40:36,835 Speaker 1: red velvet ropes, like got the oscars and silver stanchions 622 00:40:36,875 --> 00:40:41,555 Speaker 1: and three chairs and three cameras, and the players couldn't 623 00:40:41,555 --> 00:40:44,795 Speaker 1: go in there unless we let them. Producers would drag 624 00:40:44,915 --> 00:40:47,435 Speaker 1: celebrating players over to us. They would have to climb 625 00:40:47,515 --> 00:40:50,755 Speaker 1: over the ropes and we'd interview them. And sure enough, 626 00:40:50,875 --> 00:40:53,675 Speaker 1: during the first commercial break, I nudged my color analysts 627 00:40:53,715 --> 00:40:56,955 Speaker 1: Steve Lyons, and I said, look over there, to the left, 628 00:40:57,795 --> 00:41:01,395 Speaker 1: it's Giuliani, and that's his publicist. And they were about 629 00:41:01,715 --> 00:41:04,035 Speaker 1: five ft closer to us than they had been when 630 00:41:04,035 --> 00:41:07,355 Speaker 1: we started, and then during the first interview they they 631 00:41:07,355 --> 00:41:10,635 Speaker 1: moved another five feet closer to us. The minute we 632 00:41:10,755 --> 00:41:14,355 Speaker 1: don't have a guest, Rudy is gonna be their line 633 00:41:14,355 --> 00:41:17,835 Speaker 1: of sight, I say to Lions. So somebody says, well, hey, 634 00:41:17,915 --> 00:41:21,075 Speaker 1: let's get the mayor in here. He's right over here. Well, 635 00:41:21,115 --> 00:41:24,035 Speaker 1: as I have alluded to previously, even in two thousand, 636 00:41:24,115 --> 00:41:26,155 Speaker 1: I knew Rudy was a self promoting idiot, and I 637 00:41:26,235 --> 00:41:29,235 Speaker 1: never ever said let's get the mayor in here. So finally, 638 00:41:29,315 --> 00:41:33,715 Speaker 1: forty five minutes after his slow creep towards our camera began, 639 00:41:34,275 --> 00:41:39,075 Speaker 1: Rudy dropped any pretense of waiting to be asked. He 640 00:41:39,155 --> 00:41:42,115 Speaker 1: had waited forty five minutes, we had not asked, So 641 00:41:42,155 --> 00:41:45,435 Speaker 1: he just climbed over the red rope while we're on live, 642 00:41:45,835 --> 00:41:47,835 Speaker 1: caught in front of one of the cameras, on the 643 00:41:47,835 --> 00:41:51,675 Speaker 1: pretext that he was just congratulating whichever Yankee player Lions 644 00:41:51,715 --> 00:41:55,675 Speaker 1: and I were interviewing. I threw to commercial as fast 645 00:41:55,675 --> 00:41:58,675 Speaker 1: as I could, and the Baseball executive and the Fox 646 00:41:58,675 --> 00:42:03,555 Speaker 1: Sports executive coordinating the broadcast, came in, grabbed Juliani politely 647 00:42:03,555 --> 00:42:06,035 Speaker 1: but firmly, and to score ordered him and his PR 648 00:42:06,115 --> 00:42:12,515 Speaker 1: person out of the clubhouse. To my mind, the only 649 00:42:12,515 --> 00:42:16,315 Speaker 1: politician who has ever successfully inserted himself into a sporting 650 00:42:16,315 --> 00:42:19,155 Speaker 1: event was Barack Obama, and that's because he did a 651 00:42:19,235 --> 00:42:24,835 Speaker 1: sports thing. Come basketball tournament time, Obama fills out the 652 00:42:24,875 --> 00:42:28,315 Speaker 1: same bracket that seventy million other Americans do every year, 653 00:42:28,715 --> 00:42:31,115 Speaker 1: and he's got a reason for every team he picks, 654 00:42:31,515 --> 00:42:35,355 Speaker 1: and it's really nerdy, and if you don't like college basketball, 655 00:42:35,435 --> 00:42:37,795 Speaker 1: you may actually come away from that going I'm not 656 00:42:37,835 --> 00:42:42,675 Speaker 1: sure about this guy, but it is both astute politics 657 00:42:42,715 --> 00:42:47,115 Speaker 1: and worthwhile TV sports programming, unlike that done by every 658 00:42:47,155 --> 00:42:51,875 Speaker 1: other politician ever. So that leads me to my thought 659 00:42:51,915 --> 00:42:55,275 Speaker 1: about the Super Bowl presidential interview, if ever it resumes. 660 00:42:55,715 --> 00:42:59,955 Speaker 1: The president, whoever it is, should not agree to a 661 00:43:00,075 --> 00:43:04,235 Speaker 1: news interview in the super Bowl pregame show. Never he 662 00:43:04,315 --> 00:43:07,915 Speaker 1: should sit down with one of these now ubiquitous TV 663 00:43:08,075 --> 00:43:12,275 Speaker 1: sports gambling guys. I'm thinking maybe Aaron Paul from Breaking 664 00:43:12,315 --> 00:43:15,275 Speaker 1: Bad in our time together on bow Jack Horseman and 665 00:43:15,435 --> 00:43:20,435 Speaker 1: explain to him which super Bowl prop bets he was 666 00:43:20,435 --> 00:43:24,835 Speaker 1: putting his money on I would watch that. Hell if 667 00:43:24,915 --> 00:43:27,395 Speaker 1: Joe Biden or anybody else got onto the Super Bowl 668 00:43:27,395 --> 00:43:30,115 Speaker 1: pregame show and explain he was betting a hundred million 669 00:43:30,155 --> 00:43:35,355 Speaker 1: dollars of taxpayer money on the visiting quarterback not throwing 670 00:43:35,355 --> 00:43:38,675 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl touchdown pass, but catching one, and it 671 00:43:38,795 --> 00:43:59,035 Speaker 1: happened that president would guarantee himself re election. Countdown has 672 00:43:59,075 --> 00:44:01,675 Speaker 1: come to you from the studios of Overman Broadcasting Empire 673 00:44:01,755 --> 00:44:05,435 Speaker 1: World Headquarters in the Sports Capsule Holding in New York. 674 00:44:05,475 --> 00:44:08,435 Speaker 1: Thank you for listening. Here are our credits. Most to 675 00:44:08,475 --> 00:44:11,355 Speaker 1: the music, including the theme from Beethoven's Ninth, was arranged, 676 00:44:11,355 --> 00:44:14,595 Speaker 1: produced and performed by Brian Ray and John Philip Chanelle. 677 00:44:14,635 --> 00:44:17,995 Speaker 1: They are the Countdown Musical directors. Guitarist, bass and drums 678 00:44:17,995 --> 00:44:21,915 Speaker 1: by Brian Ray, All orchestration and keyboards by John Philip Channelle, 679 00:44:21,955 --> 00:44:25,155 Speaker 1: produced by t k O Brothers. Other Beethoven selections have 680 00:44:25,195 --> 00:44:27,755 Speaker 1: been arranged and performed by the group No Horns Allowed. 681 00:44:28,395 --> 00:44:31,235 Speaker 1: The sports music is the Olberman theme from ESPN two 682 00:44:31,235 --> 00:44:34,635 Speaker 1: and it was written by Mitch Warren Davis courtesy of ESPN, Inc. 683 00:44:35,595 --> 00:44:39,155 Speaker 1: Musical comments by Nancy Faust, the best baseball stadium organist ever. 684 00:44:39,555 --> 00:44:42,595 Speaker 1: Our announcer today was Kenny Mayne. Everything else is pretty 685 00:44:42,635 --> 00:44:45,875 Speaker 1: much my fault and again my condolences to the family 686 00:44:45,955 --> 00:44:49,795 Speaker 1: and loved ones and friends of Barry Sachs. Let's countdown 687 00:44:49,835 --> 00:44:52,475 Speaker 1: for this the seven and sixty ninth day since Donald 688 00:44:52,475 --> 00:44:55,435 Speaker 1: Trump's first attempted coop against the democratically elected government of 689 00:44:55,435 --> 00:44:58,915 Speaker 1: the United States. Arrest him now while we still can. 690 00:45:00,515 --> 00:45:03,395 Speaker 1: The next scheduled countdown is tomorrow. Until then on Keith Olberman, 691 00:45:03,435 --> 00:45:17,435 Speaker 1: good Morning, good afternoon, goodnight, and good luck. Countdown with 692 00:45:17,515 --> 00:45:20,635 Speaker 1: Keith Alderman is a production of I heart Radio. For 693 00:45:20,835 --> 00:45:23,835 Speaker 1: more podcasts from I heart Radio, visit the i heart 694 00:45:23,915 --> 00:45:27,955 Speaker 1: Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.