1 00:00:01,200 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: The volume. The Colin Cowherd Podcast brought to you by 2 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:09,720 Speaker 1: Fan Duel. It's never been easier to play fantasy on 3 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 1: Fan Duel. Whether you love basketball, golf, soccer, or any 4 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 1: fantasy sport, there is a contest for every fan Fan 5 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 1: Duel more ways to win. Hi, everybody, Welcome to the 6 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:35,599 Speaker 1: Wednesday Morning Podcast, the Great American sports storyteller Dave Wantstat, 7 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 1: former Bears coach. We're gonna we're gonna talk some Justin Fields, 8 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:43,599 Speaker 1: some Timmy Tebow speaking to Tebow. People not in the 9 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 1: media often like to lecture me on how to do media. 10 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 1: I mean, I didn't tell my doctor how to do 11 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 1: my proctology exam. I don't tell a landscaper how to landscape. 12 00:00:56,960 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 1: I don't want into a restaurant and tell the cook 13 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 1: how to cook. They like to say, why do you 14 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:05,120 Speaker 1: waste your time on Tebow? And I like to respond, 15 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:08,840 Speaker 1: why do you waste your time asking me? I talk 16 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 1: Tebow because he's newsworthy. No, he's not there. You go 17 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 1: lecturing again. We have a handful of people in news 18 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:22,399 Speaker 1: who whenever they do anything, we talk about it, Athletes, politicians, 19 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 1: TV stars, singers, and they do something big like return 20 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 1: to the NFL. Reunite with your legendary college coach who's 21 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 1: now coaching in the NFL. Yeah, that's what we call newsworthy. Listen, 22 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 1: when Kanye West said he was running for president and 23 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 1: starting an actual campaign, we're going to talk about it 24 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 1: because we look at the Google numbers and you're interested. 25 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 1: Jake Paul YouTuber, I'm gonna fight. Then he keeps winning fights, 26 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 1: and then his pay per view numbers are substantial. That 27 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 1: tells us that you're interested. Before Donald Trump ran for president, 28 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 1: he was newsworthy. Divorces, controversies, bankruptcies, successes. He wasn't newsworthy, 29 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 1: all you conservatives. If it wasn't for the media talking 30 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:21,920 Speaker 1: about a candidate nobody gave a shot to, he wouldn't 31 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 1: have been president. Do you know that in twenty nineteen, 32 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 1: the most googled person was an athlete. No, it wasn't 33 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:35,079 Speaker 1: Tom Brady or Tiger Woods. It was Antonio Brown. When 34 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:38,959 Speaker 1: people say Tebow's not going to be a super important player, 35 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:42,640 Speaker 1: it's not always the best or most important player that 36 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:46,360 Speaker 1: you find newsworthy. In twenty fifteen, the most googled person 37 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 1: was an athlete. It wasn't Lebron or Roger Federer, it 38 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:57,239 Speaker 1: was lamar Odom. You made him Newsworthy. Newsworthiness is a business, 39 00:02:57,320 --> 00:03:00,160 Speaker 1: and there are a handful of people out there that 40 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 1: drive interest. Virtually nobody can name the fourth tight end 41 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:07,520 Speaker 1: on the Jaguar's depth chart. Most people can only name 42 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 1: a handful of people on the entire Jack's roster. We 43 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 1: all know Tebow because he's interesting. Don't blame me for 44 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 1: talking about him. Blame him. If Tebow had more self 45 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 1: awareness and understood that, you know, leaving a sport for 46 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 1: nearly a decade and then coming back to try a 47 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 1: new position is really kind of silly. I wouldn't have 48 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 1: talked about him. I was done talking about him. In fact, 49 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 1: years ago, at the end of his NFL career, I 50 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 1: said he probably should go give the CFL a try. 51 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 1: He really fits that style. I was told. Tebow laughed 52 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 1: at such a suggestion. Don't kid yourself. This is business 53 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 1: and this is ego. He's a human being, humble at times, 54 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 1: very much driven by the brand of Tebow, which pays 55 00:03:56,040 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 1: him well other times. Listen. The only reason Europe upset 56 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:02,839 Speaker 1: that I talked Tebow because you don't like the way 57 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 1: it ended. People always say that I don't like you 58 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 1: talking Tebow. Let me ask you if he'd have made 59 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 1: the team. Should I have ignored it? Interesting, Colin, stick 60 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 1: to sports. I always hear that from conservatives because I 61 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 1: tend to kind of lean left on social issues. Stick 62 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 1: to sports. And then once I put Will Kine on 63 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 1: my podcast, I got nothing but credit. Tip of the cap. 64 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:33,159 Speaker 1: My man loved that podcast. You like politics from me 65 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 1: when you agree with them. I talked Tebow because I 66 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:40,280 Speaker 1: find him interesting. I was done talking Tim Tebow. If 67 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 1: Tim Tebow never tries to be a pro athlete again, 68 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:46,920 Speaker 1: I don't think I'll ever talk about him. But he's 69 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 1: interested sometimes in himself and his impractical dreams. When he 70 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 1: wants to stop, I'll stop, all right. Dave Juanstat, former 71 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 1: coach of the Bears and Dolphins, dal us defensive coordinator 72 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:04,720 Speaker 1: for the Super Bowl twenty seven win, coach college football too. 73 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 1: You're having bourbon as we talk right now? What kind 74 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:11,719 Speaker 1: of bourbon? I'm only allowed to drink one? Terry Bradshaw bourbon? Yes? 75 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 1: Is any good? All? I know? It's one hundred and 76 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 1: four proof. It's strong. Normal bourbon is about eighty eight. 77 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 1: This is one oh four Terry Terry doesn't mess around. 78 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 1: By the way, Dave Wonstat and I are going to 79 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 1: dinner next week in Chicago because he has a place 80 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:37,280 Speaker 1: there and I recently bought a little tiny place there, 81 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 1: and so he's going to show me all his hangouts 82 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:43,839 Speaker 1: and introduced me to all his kind of favorite haunts 83 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 1: with his beautiful wife jan and so I can't wait 84 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:50,720 Speaker 1: for that. Let's dive into a couple of things. So 85 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 1: you're one of those people that I text from time 86 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 1: to time if I have a question. And when Tebow 87 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 1: first signed with Jacksonville in the ninety man roster, I said, 88 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 1: what do you think? And you pose the question, does 89 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 1: he understand how hard it is to block? Forget forget 90 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 1: the catching passes thing. You said, there's no way he 91 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 1: can come back into the league and block at a 92 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 1: high level. So you're probably not surprised by his struggles 93 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 1: in that department. No, I saw some highlights of the game. 94 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:25,720 Speaker 1: I watched some of it, and you know that. I mean, 95 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 1: think about it. The guy not only has he been 96 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:30,160 Speaker 1: on the league, but he's played a quarterback position. He 97 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 1: does have the size and strength, but he's lining up 98 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 1: against two against Khalil Matt that's the guys. He's trying 99 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 1: to block the defensive ends, and I never thought that 100 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:43,599 Speaker 1: that would happen. And he's really not athletic enough, in 101 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 1: my opinion, or fast enough at this point in his 102 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:48,600 Speaker 1: career to be one of those tight ends that you 103 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 1: move out wide and he's going to be the safety 104 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 1: one on one. So I think I think it was 105 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:55,159 Speaker 1: a great effort he was, but he was in a 106 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 1: tough spot. He really was. He should be an assistant 107 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 1: coach for Urban mart That's what he should do. Bourbon's 108 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:04,600 Speaker 1: trying to help the culture in the locker room. Higher 109 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 1: Tebow is an offensive assistant. Let him get starting coaching. Yeah, 110 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 1: you know, it's one of those things. Dave. I was 111 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 1: talking to Mark Schlareth about this, and he said, people 112 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 1: don't understand. There's a lot of people in the stands 113 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 1: that could catch a football or throw it, but there's 114 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 1: very few people in the stands that could go up 115 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 1: against the two hundred and seventy pound defensive end and 116 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 1: block him. In your career, who Mike Ditko was a 117 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 1: legendary blocking and catching tight end. Yeah, but most great 118 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 1: blocking tight ends they've got a nasty streak. I mean, 119 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 1: Gronk could be a tough guy. You know, George Kittle, 120 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 1: tough guy. Those guys could be pro wrestlers. They just 121 00:07:46,920 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 1: like contact. When I looked at the Tebow footage, Dave, 122 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 1: he didn't like the contact. He's a quarterback. He's never 123 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 1: hit anybody, right, right, no, it, you're right. All those 124 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 1: tight ends that you mentioned, that's the stereotype complete tight end. 125 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 1: When we were scouting, we used to say, Okay, is 126 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 1: the guy receiving tight end? Is he a blocking tight end? 127 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 1: Or is he complete tight end? And the guys that 128 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 1: you mentioned, the Grounks of the world, were complete tight ends. 129 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 1: And obviously Tim Tebow does not follow that category. So 130 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 1: it was a good effort. But I'm glad they did 131 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 1: this early. Now he can move on and start, you know, 132 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 1: getting his offense and Trevor Lawrence and company ready to go. 133 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 1: So you know I said about the Bear situation is 134 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:36,320 Speaker 1: that Andy Dalton's always been as good as his supporting cast. 135 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 1: I think Justin Field's going to be really successful. Here's 136 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 1: what I worry about. They're rebuilding their offensive line. You 137 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:46,320 Speaker 1: know the end of the year eight and eight in 138 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:49,559 Speaker 1: Chicago and they were really bad down the stretch. So 139 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 1: you think to yourself, Okay, they'll solve some of their 140 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 1: problems in free agency. They didn't. They'll solve some of 141 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 1: their issues in the draft. They only had two picks 142 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 1: in the first four owns, so they didn't get one 143 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 1: of the four or five best offensive linemen. My issue 144 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:09,680 Speaker 1: is offensively, I don't think this is very talented. I 145 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 1: think Justin Fields is going to have to carry them 146 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:15,719 Speaker 1: at times, and that's what I worry about. How I mean, 147 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 1: how talented do you think the Bears are offensively? Well, 148 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:24,439 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what's happened, And for our viewers, our listeners, 149 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 1: I was up in practice and I'm pretty close to 150 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:29,320 Speaker 1: this situation. I do a lot of shows for him 151 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 1: here as you know, in Chicago. And two things happened 152 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:38,560 Speaker 1: about two or three weeks ago. They signed Jesse James, 153 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 1: a big six six tight end, and they got rid 154 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 1: of a wide receiver, Miller. That kind of turned a 155 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 1: light on and I said, oh, this is going to 156 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:52,320 Speaker 1: be interesting. Then Matt Naggie comes out and says we're 157 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 1: gonna play everybody in the preseason. Last year two years ago, 158 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 1: that was a no no. We weren't going to take 159 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 1: a chance we were. You know, it gave you a 160 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:07,680 Speaker 1: soft mentality, at least me. So now they're gonna play 161 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 1: Khalil Mac play in the opening game, Okay, everybody plays, 162 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 1: and then I look at the stats twenty seven passes 163 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:22,680 Speaker 1: and twenty four runs. I really think if they can 164 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 1: stay that balanced, that defense is going to play fifty 165 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:30,080 Speaker 1: five plays a game. They've got a top ten defense, 166 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:33,680 Speaker 1: they've got an excellent kickers and the special teams, and 167 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:36,439 Speaker 1: you've got you know, the best thing that an offensive 168 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 1: lineman can do, or the easiest thing if I had 169 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:42,599 Speaker 1: a lot of these type of guys that weren't as talented, 170 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 1: is the competition. And if you asked every one of them, 171 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 1: they would say, coach, let us run the ball. Running 172 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 1: the football is easier for an offensive lineman that's not 173 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:58,680 Speaker 1: as experienced, that's not as talented as compared to the 174 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:01,440 Speaker 1: other side. So now the Bears, if they come out, 175 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 1: let these young, inexperienced offensive lineman run the ball with Montgomery, 176 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 1: who I think it's a narrated player that's going to 177 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 1: take a lot of pressure off of Dalton or Fields, 178 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:15,200 Speaker 1: and that's going to give that defensive chance. You know, 179 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 1: something's telling me deed done that, whether it was McCaskey 180 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 1: talking to Matt Naggie or him reading a book, or 181 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 1: it was Ryan Pace, the general manager. But the light 182 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 1: has gone on. There's different things happening at the Chicago 183 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:33,760 Speaker 1: Bears this year that have not happened since he's been there. 184 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 1: Is Cole Commet a good blocking tight end. He's the 185 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:42,200 Speaker 1: complete tight end, exactly what you were referencing earlier. Cole 186 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 1: Commet is six six and he can run for eight 187 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 1: four nine, and he can block with the best of them. 188 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:51,680 Speaker 1: He's a complete tight end. This guy's a star. And 189 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:54,320 Speaker 1: they got boxed in a little bit because of signing 190 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:57,320 Speaker 1: Jimmy Graham, you know from Green Bay and New we 191 00:11:57,360 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 1: all know Seattle, and Jimmy's a veteran guy. So I 192 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 1: think they helped commit back a little bit. That's not 193 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:09,440 Speaker 1: gonna happen anymore. So if they are going to become 194 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 1: a power offense, yep, you would go with justin Fields 195 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 1: to start game one? No, I would not. I would 196 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 1: start Dalton for this reason. And when I was at practice, 197 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 1: Andy Dalton throws a simple little curl route and I'm 198 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:31,199 Speaker 1: standing there in the sidelines. There's probably five hundred thousand 199 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 1: people a practice. Nobody moves five plays later Justin Fields 200 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 1: because in there and throws the same play, same receiver, 201 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 1: he catches it. A thousand people are under feet screaming, 202 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 1: So you know, I mean, the point is that this 203 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 1: town is so hot for Justin Fields that it's gonna happen. 204 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 1: And Andy's being paid a lot of money. He's a 205 00:12:56,960 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 1: vetter and he's saying all the right things. I'd let 206 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 1: him start off. I would have Justin Fields say you're 207 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 1: gonna play in this first game. I don't know how much. 208 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 1: Let's see what happens, though. If the worst thing they 209 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 1: could do is put this kid in there, and if 210 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:13,959 Speaker 1: he fails and fails early, boy, quarterbacks can lose their confidence. 211 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:16,560 Speaker 1: And now the locker rooms looking around, and you got 212 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 1: all those issues. So I would go with Dalton to 213 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 1: start off. I would play Fields in the first game, 214 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:26,559 Speaker 1: and it's gonna take care of itself. Matt Naggie cannot 215 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 1: listen to the fans if he makes a decision, because 216 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 1: with the fans want there's an old expression, you listen 217 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 1: to the people in the stand. Sooner or later you'll 218 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 1: be sitting with them. How many snaps are they sharing 219 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 1: first team snaps because that's crucial. You know the other 220 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 1: day when twa and we'll get to him in a second, 221 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:51,200 Speaker 1: because you coach the Dolphins, ta played the Bears. Two 222 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:54,319 Speaker 1: has taken all the first team snaps in Miami. Justin 223 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 1: Justin Fields isn't. Yeah, two is a starter. Yes, I 224 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 1: mean he starts fields is not right now? And I 225 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:05,320 Speaker 1: think you think about this and Matt Nagee kind of 226 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 1: fish Tier a little bit on this the other day. 227 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 1: But the one thing that I will say about Matt, 228 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:14,319 Speaker 1: and I know him and Ryan Pace in the McCaskey family, 229 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 1: they are people of high integrity, and they told Andy Dalton, 230 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 1: you come here and you're gonna be the starter. I 231 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 1: just think that that's part of it that they want 232 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 1: to hold to their commitment of this kid. And I 233 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 1: think that's what's gonna happen. 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I'd have some, you know, 261 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 1: I'd have some. I don't know what i'd do. I 262 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 1: would have a series of maybe six plays. I'd let 263 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 1: him watch learn and just let Andy take one for 264 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 1: the team. And then I know this, when Justin Fields 265 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 1: comes in, I want him taking all the number one 266 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 1: snaps that week. I don't want these guys sharing snaps 267 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 1: throughout them. I think you have to go with Dalton, 268 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 1: and then if it works and you win, you go 269 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 1: with Dalton again. You don't pull him out. But my 270 00:16:28,760 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 1: takeaway is, don't split snaps. Whoever starting gets all of 271 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 1: them right. And you know what it caught me about 272 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:38,360 Speaker 1: the Bears game. People have to realize how big Justin 273 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 1: Fields is. And when he breaks the line of scrimmage, 274 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 1: he's six two sixty three two twenty five. I mean, 275 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 1: there's not many defensive backs that really want to come up. 276 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 1: And he's gonna make a lot of big runs because 277 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 1: in the NFL right now, the way guys tackle, I 278 00:16:57,040 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 1: think he's gonna run past and through a lot of 279 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 1: those secondary he gonna make a lot of play for him. 280 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:05,439 Speaker 1: I thought that I evaluated all these quarterbacks last weekend. 281 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:09,440 Speaker 1: We can get into that. I thought Fields, I thought 282 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:13,919 Speaker 1: that Zach Wilson was the best. I was totally. I 283 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 1: had never seen this kid play much, and I'm watching 284 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 1: him at the Jets game and I said, wow, I mean, 285 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 1: I was he caught my attention. I thought, just accuracy, Uh, 286 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 1: this quick decision making. The ball came out and he 287 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:34,719 Speaker 1: was completing. To me, he was converting third downs and 288 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:37,439 Speaker 1: there was a full speed pass rush coming at him. 289 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 1: I mean, that guy got my attention. I thought that 290 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 1: Justin Fields and Trevor Lawrence were about the same. You know, 291 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:49,440 Speaker 1: Trey Lancer, I thought he was He's got the farthest 292 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 1: way to go. I did not see Mac Jones play 293 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 1: in New England. I missed that game, but I saw 294 00:17:56,640 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 1: the rest of him. And I'll tell you the kid 295 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:03,399 Speaker 1: at the Jets as a player, well, I mean, listen, 296 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 1: we knew this about him. You know, he had his 297 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:09,679 Speaker 1: two comps or Aaron Rodgers and Johnny Manziel. He's got 298 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:11,200 Speaker 1: a good feed, he moves well, and he's got a 299 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:13,480 Speaker 1: very very quick release. He's got a better arm than Manziel. 300 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:16,719 Speaker 1: And the one thing I liked about Zach Wilson is, 301 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:20,639 Speaker 1: you know, Michael Beckton, they have a left tackle. Darnold 302 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 1: never did, and then Elijah vera Tucker. Now they're going 303 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 1: to have, you know, arguably the best guard in the draft. 304 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 1: So one of the things I liked about him, despite 305 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:33,760 Speaker 1: being a smallish quarterback, he's six two two ten. That's 306 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:36,880 Speaker 1: that's that's smaller than you'd like. Aaron Rodgers is six 307 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:40,480 Speaker 1: two two twenty five, thicker, big calfs, big wrists. Aaron's 308 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 1: a thicker athlete. But I thought Zach stood in the pocket. 309 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:45,960 Speaker 1: And Trent Dilford told me this years ago. He goes 310 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 1: some guys Colin they don't like defensive lineman barking at him. 311 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:53,400 Speaker 1: They don't like it. They get nervous. I thought Zach, 312 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:57,640 Speaker 1: as a smaller quarterback, just stood as the pocket kept 313 00:18:57,680 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 1: closing and closing, and he just stood there. That's something 314 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 1: to me that there's a certain inner confidence. That was impressive. 315 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:06,960 Speaker 1: I would agree totally. You know, it's amazing all these 316 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 1: young quarterbacks are playing well and all of the there's 317 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:14,880 Speaker 1: so many teams right now that are talking about going 318 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl and they want to anoint these 319 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 1: young quarterbacks, you know, I mean they want to bless 320 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 1: them already. I would just take you back. And we 321 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 1: went to Dallas with Troy aik went our first year, 322 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:29,640 Speaker 1: and I think we might have been three in one. 323 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:33,639 Speaker 1: But we were feeling real good about the preseason, and 324 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 1: we went down to New Orleans and be Justin Fields 325 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 1: made one comment that makes me a little nervous. He said, 326 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:44,399 Speaker 1: the game wasn't nearly as fast as I thought it 327 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:49,120 Speaker 1: would be. Okay, well, it wasn't nearly as fast for us. 328 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:53,439 Speaker 1: We were driving back. We beat the Raiders, and you know, 329 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 1: we had never lost at University in Miami. Down there, 330 00:19:56,720 --> 00:19:59,640 Speaker 1: Jimmy and myself and all the whole crew, and we're 331 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 1: d him back and I remember saying to myself, God, 332 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:05,920 Speaker 1: this is gonna be easy. Yeah, what's the big game? 333 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:08,160 Speaker 1: When we went down and played the Saints in New 334 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 1: Orleans and we got shut out and the only time 335 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 1: they didn't score is when they missed the field goal 336 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:16,119 Speaker 1: or dropped the ball in the end zone. We were terrible. 337 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:19,360 Speaker 1: We won one game that year, but in the preseason 338 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:22,880 Speaker 1: we had a whole different feeling. So you know, I'm 339 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:25,400 Speaker 1: pumping the brake. I love what I see how these 340 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 1: young quarterbacks. But I'm kind of pumping the brakes a 341 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:30,360 Speaker 1: little bit and saying, you know, it's gonna be a 342 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:34,679 Speaker 1: different game. Justin fields slowed down, it's gonna be faster. 343 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 1: Trust me, when you play get in that game against 344 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 1: the Rams and see Aaron Donald and company over there, 345 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 1: it's gonna be a lot faster. Well, I mean, let's 346 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 1: be honest. In the preseason, the defense a quarterback seas 347 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 1: before the snap is the defense. You'll see. They're not 348 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:53,880 Speaker 1: making their adjustments. They're not They're not hiding that they 349 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 1: want you to see vanilla stuff. No, if I was 350 00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 1: a defensive coordinator, I'm not showing you Jack squat in 351 00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:03,360 Speaker 1: the preseason, right, you know that? Good point. And to 352 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 1: add to that, I was talking to Bill Polian the 353 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 1: other day. I was doing something with him, and Bill 354 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:10,639 Speaker 1: was an Indie when I was at the Dolphins, and 355 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 1: we were talking about the same thing. Callin and I said, 356 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:18,680 Speaker 1: you know, let me tell you about where rookie quarterbacks 357 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:21,919 Speaker 1: get caught up. And I said, I had Jay Fiedler. 358 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 1: And Jay Fiedler was an I be League guy. He's 359 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 1: a smart guy. He was a winner he was a leader, 360 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 1: you know, but he wasn't Peyton Man and he wasn't 361 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:33,399 Speaker 1: Tom Brady. I mean, I got that, okay, but we 362 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:36,400 Speaker 1: could but we won, you know, ten eleven games a year. 363 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:40,439 Speaker 1: But the thing that would happen the way the NFL 364 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:43,919 Speaker 1: is and everybody needs to think about this. These games 365 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:46,639 Speaker 1: are going to come down to the last to the 366 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:50,440 Speaker 1: fourth quarter, maybe in the last couple of possessions. And 367 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:53,360 Speaker 1: you don't know how many times Jay Feedler would walk 368 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:57,680 Speaker 1: over and we would be standing there and I might say, Jay, 369 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:02,680 Speaker 1: you know, don't force that ball into too deep coverage 370 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:05,879 Speaker 1: and he says, coaching, they're disguising it. They're really wanting 371 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:08,680 Speaker 1: to play a three D. I know I can throw 372 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:12,159 Speaker 1: it to whatever. A rookie quarterback is not going to 373 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 1: see that, I promise you, and right, and that's what's 374 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 1: gonna separate guys. And I'm not going to use Andy Dalton, 375 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:26,879 Speaker 1: but an Andy Dalton from a justin fields the fourth 376 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:30,480 Speaker 1: quarter of that Rams game, when they start disguising and 377 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 1: changing coverages and changing fronts, and you've got to check 378 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:36,600 Speaker 1: out of this and get them into this Andy Dalton 379 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 1: scene at all, he's gonna be able to communicate with 380 00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 1: the coach and Justin Fields is going to be learning 381 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 1: and that, and that goes right across the board. I 382 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 1: used them as an example, but I think it goes 383 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:51,120 Speaker 1: for every one of these rookie quarterbacks. That's what you're 384 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:53,960 Speaker 1: gonna have to deal with. And then what's the situation. 385 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:57,480 Speaker 1: I mean, Matt Nagan needs to win this year, you know, 386 00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:01,120 Speaker 1: and you know where the Jets, you know, they they're 387 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:04,359 Speaker 1: a rookie head coach. He's got time. So you got 388 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:08,120 Speaker 1: to look at each situation and say, every coach has 389 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:09,920 Speaker 1: a window when it's going to close on you. It 390 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 1: might be two years, three years, four years. Well, some 391 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 1: of these windows obviously the new head coach, some of 392 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:21,000 Speaker 1: these windows are closing, makes a difference. Let's pivot to 393 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 1: the Miami Dolphins. You coach them for years. I really 394 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:28,360 Speaker 1: think they're well coached. I mean, it's pretty remarkable. Last year, 395 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 1: in the second year of a rebuild, they were second 396 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:37,879 Speaker 1: or third fewest pedalties, best third down defense, force, the 397 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:40,360 Speaker 1: most turnovers. This is in the middle of a rebuild. 398 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:43,439 Speaker 1: That's remarkable. That's what a veteran team like a Baltimore, 399 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 1: a New England with a veteran coaching staff does, so 400 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:50,840 Speaker 1: we know they're well coached. And I was thinking this. 401 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 1: I thought to myself, with it's not going to be 402 00:23:55,119 --> 00:24:00,240 Speaker 1: the TWA won't win games. The issue with Tua. I mean, 403 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:03,480 Speaker 1: Mark Sanchez got to back to back AFC championships. It's 404 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:07,879 Speaker 1: not about winning games now for a coach, that may 405 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:10,359 Speaker 1: be the only thing that matters. The question becomes in 406 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 1: the AFC is at some point in the postseason. This 407 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:18,959 Speaker 1: is the trap of Tuah. They're so well coached and 408 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 1: he is an accurate thrower who won't make a ton 409 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:24,760 Speaker 1: of mistakes, and there's a little fool's gold in that 410 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 1: you can win. You can win ten games, they may 411 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 1: go eleven and six, and I think he could. But 412 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 1: Josh Allen, Maholmes, Lamar Jackson, Baker Mayfield, Justin Herbert, I 413 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:42,479 Speaker 1: don't see him as a player who can carry you 414 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:46,679 Speaker 1: in big spots against elite quarterbacks. So take me to 415 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:51,640 Speaker 1: the Tua situation. What if he goes? What if he wins? 416 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:55,400 Speaker 1: But you feel as a coach he is incredibly limited. 417 00:24:56,560 --> 00:25:00,440 Speaker 1: What are the discussions like behind closed doors? Oh, I 418 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 1: think you tried to do what you can do around them. 419 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:07,359 Speaker 1: You know we won eleven games a year my first 420 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 1: two years at Miami and won a division and on 421 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 1: and on one a playoff game, blah blah blah. Okay, 422 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:20,399 Speaker 1: and we knew that Jay Fiedler had limitations. Okay, it 423 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:22,360 Speaker 1: was a free agent guy, wasn't a number one pick. 424 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:26,120 Speaker 1: So I went out and made the trade for Ricky Williams, 425 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 1: and I said, you know what, we are going to 426 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:31,159 Speaker 1: pick the slack up with a running game. And it 427 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:33,159 Speaker 1: didn't get us to the Super Bowl. But Ricky led 428 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:36,160 Speaker 1: the NFL and rushing and and and and did well. 429 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:40,720 Speaker 1: Uh So I think, when you know, I think it's 430 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:43,200 Speaker 1: too early to make that determination on two and number 431 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:48,200 Speaker 1: one and number two. Uh That's what I would look 432 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:50,160 Speaker 1: at if I was a coach, I would say, Okay, 433 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 1: what can we do or what do we have to 434 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:55,919 Speaker 1: do as a team to win and to get us 435 00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:58,400 Speaker 1: to that Super Bowl. I mean there's been a lot 436 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:01,200 Speaker 1: of teams. I mean when we got eliminated my second 437 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 1: year at the Dolphins, we were eleven to five in 438 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:07,159 Speaker 1: Baltimore beat us. They had the best defense in the 439 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:09,359 Speaker 1: league with Ray Lewis and those guys. They went in 440 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:11,959 Speaker 1: running the ball. I can't remember the running backs nay 441 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:14,840 Speaker 1: now from Tennessee. But they were a run team, a 442 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:17,960 Speaker 1: little bit of play action and play defense. So you 443 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:21,160 Speaker 1: can do it a lot of different ways. You really can. 444 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:24,639 Speaker 1: And but I think it's I'm so glad that to 445 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 1: have had some success because I was so afraid in 446 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:32,880 Speaker 1: this I called him, you know, microwave NFL Nowadays, if 447 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:36,480 Speaker 1: it doesn't happen quick enough, you're out, and that they 448 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:39,360 Speaker 1: give him some time now because he had some success. 449 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:41,600 Speaker 1: I think the guy's gonna be gonna be good. I 450 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 1: really do. I think he's got the right intangibles. You know. 451 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 1: It's funny, Chicago is a much more rapid sports town 452 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:53,119 Speaker 1: than Miami. We know that at Miami's much more transient. 453 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:57,359 Speaker 1: Is that actually an advantage to tah Like in Chicago 454 00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 1: there's this you know, talk radio, the newspaper. It's big 455 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:04,760 Speaker 1: city media. They kicked the shit out of you. If 456 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:07,720 Speaker 1: you lose, they want you to. In Miami, you know, 457 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 1: they got a million other things to do. I always say, 458 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:12,720 Speaker 1: once you add a beach, it's like adding another pro 459 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:17,360 Speaker 1: team to a town. People are distracted? Is that an 460 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 1: advantage coaching? When you coached in Miami, did you feel like, 461 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 1: you know they don't pay quite as close attention, get 462 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:27,200 Speaker 1: away with a little more as a coach. Oh, there's 463 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:30,959 Speaker 1: there's no more. I mean, it's so true. There are 464 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:34,760 Speaker 1: no comparison at Miami. You know, when we played the 465 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:37,280 Speaker 1: Jets and we played the Steelers and the Eagles, they 466 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 1: would have ten thousand fans there. You're not going to 467 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:43,520 Speaker 1: see that in Chicago, you know. In Chicago. Yeah, you talked, 468 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:47,080 Speaker 1: I lived the rabid fan thing in Chicago. Yeah, they 469 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:50,680 Speaker 1: were talking about it. Impeach Bill Clinton and Dave wants that. 470 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:55,000 Speaker 1: So I live in the say I might have been 471 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:58,280 Speaker 1: an airplane. I can't remember. It might have been an 472 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:03,520 Speaker 1: airplane flight over Soldier fe So yes, you know, they 473 00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:08,120 Speaker 1: are more rabbit here at UH in Chicago. I don't 474 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:10,119 Speaker 1: know if that really helps you or not. At the end, 475 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 1: at the end of the day, they're going to look 476 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:14,920 Speaker 1: at your record. When when you don't win in Miami, 477 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:18,880 Speaker 1: you can still go into a restaurant and maybe get 478 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:23,440 Speaker 1: a dinner with your wife. Don't don't lose in Chicago 479 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:26,120 Speaker 1: and try to go to R and L, or try 480 00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 1: to go to Gibson's and and expect to sit there 481 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:31,679 Speaker 1: and have a nice dinner on a Friday night with 482 00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:34,359 Speaker 1: your wife. I mean it could be rough. It could 483 00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:39,240 Speaker 1: be rough. I lived that. I lived that too. Really, 484 00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:43,440 Speaker 1: so when you lost, you just ate at home. Oh 485 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:46,400 Speaker 1: it's players used to talk about that. They would send 486 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 1: their wives out to get groceries. I mean it's uh, 487 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:53,200 Speaker 1: I mean it was Christmas time. There was a guy 488 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 1: dressed in Santa Claus. All I want for Christmas as 489 00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:58,239 Speaker 1: a new head coach, Marry Christmas. You know what I mean. 490 00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:02,720 Speaker 1: It's oh, yeah, they're there that they're good fans because 491 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 1: they get it, and they they're Bear fans. You know. 492 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:10,320 Speaker 1: I think there's a fourteen thou waiting list right now 493 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:15,520 Speaker 1: to get a Bear season ticket. That's great. Now, did 494 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 1: jan your wife? Did she prefer when you were a 495 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:21,600 Speaker 1: coach of the Dolphins or Bears? What did she prefer? 496 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:24,720 Speaker 1: Just a family perspective. You know what's interesting about her? 497 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:28,400 Speaker 1: I was I coached in nine places college, you know, 498 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:33,720 Speaker 1: Oklahoma State, Pitt, usc My and all the NFL jobs, 499 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:39,480 Speaker 1: and she would always say, including Buffalo. She would say. 500 00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:42,040 Speaker 1: The one would say, how do you like living in Buffalo? 501 00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:44,720 Speaker 1: And she would say, this is the best place we've 502 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:48,360 Speaker 1: ever lived. And if you look at where you're at 503 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:51,959 Speaker 1: For anybody out there that's listening, that's made job moves. 504 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:57,720 Speaker 1: Remember this. There's always something really good and special about 505 00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:00,720 Speaker 1: a place. It doesn't matter where it is. And to 506 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:05,280 Speaker 1: this day, I get texas and invites from people to 507 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:08,760 Speaker 1: own restaurants in Buffalo, New York, and I was there 508 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,360 Speaker 1: two years. I was invited over to the house in 509 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 1: Christmas Mike Janet I. So my point is that she 510 00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 1: had the attitude that wherever we were at, you know what, 511 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:21,160 Speaker 1: this is the greatest place we've ever coached. And that's 512 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:24,880 Speaker 1: been the difference. My wife was in hr for a 513 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 1: restaurant chain and she had to go to all these 514 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:32,360 Speaker 1: northeastern Midwest cities, the Cleveland's, the Minneapolis, the Chicago. She said. 515 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:36,479 Speaker 1: Buffalo had the nicest people easily, the Principurgh people there. 516 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:40,200 Speaker 1: It's it's uh yeah, absolutely the best fans and great 517 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:45,960 Speaker 1: people and good restaurants. And no De Paulo's restaurant, that 518 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:49,600 Speaker 1: was my spot up there. Absolutely. Dennis Depolo still a 519 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 1: good friend, stayed at my place in Naples a couple 520 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:57,040 Speaker 1: of years ago. Well you you are friends to everybody. Okay, one, 521 00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:00,880 Speaker 1: I gotta do one cowboy question. Oh no, I want 522 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:03,040 Speaker 1: to do a Patriot question. I gotta say this about 523 00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:05,360 Speaker 1: the Cowboys. I was in Canton last weekend with Jimmy 524 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:09,800 Speaker 1: Johnson and Jerry Jones put on a party for Drew 525 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:12,960 Speaker 1: Pearson and Cliff Harris, the Three Jimmy, the three Cowboys 526 00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:15,640 Speaker 1: and Jerry who was there? J and Jerry and I 527 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:19,160 Speaker 1: thought he was fantastic. And Tony Dorsett was there, who 528 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:21,600 Speaker 1: I blocked for. Tilly and I were teammates at fifth 529 00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:24,320 Speaker 1: and I got to see two tall and the whole 530 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:29,760 Speaker 1: event was fantastic and Cowboys were well represented. Okay, go 531 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:32,400 Speaker 1: on to New England. Well, I love that, you know what, 532 00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:35,360 Speaker 1: because I think Jerry, I think, as you age and 533 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:37,520 Speaker 1: you can send your mortality, I think you want to 534 00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:39,520 Speaker 1: clean up your messes, and I think Jerry wants to 535 00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:42,400 Speaker 1: clean up the Jimmy thing. Yes, absolutely, yeah, And I 536 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:44,360 Speaker 1: look for Jimmy to get his Hall of Fame ring 537 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:47,680 Speaker 1: this year and he's gonna I think I believe he'll 538 00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:49,400 Speaker 1: get into the Ring of Honor this year, and I 539 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 1: think it'll all happen at the same time live in Dallas. 540 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:56,680 Speaker 1: That's my predictions. Great, Yeah, Okay, you're you're the coach 541 00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,240 Speaker 1: of the Patriots. I can make two arguments. Now, let's 542 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:03,400 Speaker 1: both agree that New England is fairly limited in terms 543 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:07,640 Speaker 1: of speed and weaponry on the perimeter. Offensively, they don't 544 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:11,280 Speaker 1: have at Nelson Agilars. Okay, you know he drops a lot, 545 00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:14,400 Speaker 1: but he's a fairly big play receiver. But they don't. 546 00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:16,600 Speaker 1: They don't have a lot of guys. You don't have 547 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 1: to roll your coverage over. You know, if you were 548 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:22,120 Speaker 1: a defensive coordinator watching film, what you worry about is 549 00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:25,760 Speaker 1: their trap game, their screen game. It's not the deep threats. 550 00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:30,320 Speaker 1: So I could make two arguments. Cam gives us a 551 00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:33,680 Speaker 1: playmaker and we don't have many. Or I could make 552 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:37,560 Speaker 1: the argument Mac Jones, we're not talented enough to overcome mistakes. 553 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:40,880 Speaker 1: Mac won't make as many. He won't fumble, he won't 554 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:45,560 Speaker 1: get hit. He's more accurate, he doesn't run, he's not 555 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:48,520 Speaker 1: going to get stripped. I could make two arguments. For 556 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:52,840 Speaker 1: the starting quarterback you coach the Patriots, where do you go? Well, 557 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:57,280 Speaker 1: I was at the Dolphins when Bill had Drew Bletso starting, 558 00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:01,080 Speaker 1: and Tom Brady is a backup, and Bill went with 559 00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:04,960 Speaker 1: Bletso until he got hurt. And then that's when Tom 560 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:10,680 Speaker 1: Brady got his opportunity. I look at this situation and 561 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:16,720 Speaker 1: I probably would go with Mac Jones. Be quite honest 562 00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:20,040 Speaker 1: with you, I really think that this kid, Bill's not 563 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:23,000 Speaker 1: threatened with his job. He's not in the situation Matt 564 00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:28,120 Speaker 1: Naggy is that he's worried about job security. And you know, 565 00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:31,000 Speaker 1: I mean, I think Cam is doing everything he can. 566 00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:34,840 Speaker 1: I'm a I'm a Cam fan, but I don't what's 567 00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:37,280 Speaker 1: his strong suit. It's not thrown. It used to be 568 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:39,960 Speaker 1: running in athletically, and it's not even out of anymore. 569 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:44,000 Speaker 1: So I think that Cam is a great backup if 570 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:46,840 Speaker 1: he's a good guy in the locker room. But I 571 00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:51,000 Speaker 1: would go with Matt and I would not even look back. 572 00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:54,360 Speaker 1: That's my opinion. I think it's completely different. I think 573 00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:56,880 Speaker 1: Mac Jones is going to be the guy. He's done 574 00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:59,680 Speaker 1: well enough to this point. I put him in there, 575 00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:03,720 Speaker 1: and let you know. I think New England this year 576 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:08,520 Speaker 1: is going to look like Miami last year, is that 577 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:12,480 Speaker 1: they could win ten games. Great coaching, defense, special teams, 578 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:16,640 Speaker 1: don't turn it over much. No. Now Miami this year 579 00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:21,160 Speaker 1: bringing in Jalen Waddle and Will Fuller. Now they've got 580 00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:24,040 Speaker 1: some real speed on the perimeter. But they didn't last 581 00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:27,600 Speaker 1: They didn't really last year. It was Gaseki the tight end, 582 00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:32,479 Speaker 1: DeVante Parker. It wasn't a very dynamic, robust, perimeter game. 583 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:37,800 Speaker 1: So that's where I think Mac Jones has the coaches, 584 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:40,359 Speaker 1: if they had to raise their hands, you know, let's 585 00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:44,399 Speaker 1: vote on this thing. He will. He'll keep them out 586 00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:48,520 Speaker 1: of trouble, pre snap, no turnovers. I mean, I think 587 00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:51,040 Speaker 1: you bring up a good point. What does Cam do well? 588 00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:52,799 Speaker 1: Peter King was on my show the other day and 589 00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:55,600 Speaker 1: he said, go look at the tape. He's not an 590 00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:58,640 Speaker 1: accurate thrower of the football. In his prime, he wasn't great. 591 00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:03,560 Speaker 1: Now he's below out Bridge, right, and we knew. I 592 00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:05,239 Speaker 1: played against him when he was kind of in his 593 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:07,640 Speaker 1: prime down air and when it was fourth and two, 594 00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:09,759 Speaker 1: fourth and three, you know they were going to run 595 00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:11,840 Speaker 1: the quarterback read and they were going to run the 596 00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:14,320 Speaker 1: power and he was gonna keep the ball and run it. 597 00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:18,319 Speaker 1: Kind of a wildcat mentality with Cam. I mean I 598 00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:21,640 Speaker 1: defended it and because of his size and his strength 599 00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:24,280 Speaker 1: and his athletic ability, it was very difficult to stop. 600 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:28,200 Speaker 1: Now it's different, and I just don't see it. I 601 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:31,840 Speaker 1: think I think he's a backup in this league, and 602 00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:35,000 Speaker 1: if you got somebody that you're halfway like, which they do, 603 00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:39,759 Speaker 1: I would go on. I would go forward. All right. 604 00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:44,840 Speaker 1: So I'm coming to Chicago in a week and a 605 00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:49,440 Speaker 1: day from when this airs. So this will air Wednesday morning, 606 00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:54,440 Speaker 1: and I'm coming next Thursday afternoon, and we can't talk 607 00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:58,560 Speaker 1: about where we're going to dinner. But I think our 608 00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:01,040 Speaker 1: wives are going to get along because every time you 609 00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:03,960 Speaker 1: talk about your wife with me, I like how you 610 00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:07,080 Speaker 1: said everywhere we've lived, your wife is like, this is 611 00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:09,839 Speaker 1: the best place. That's what my wife always says. Let's 612 00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:12,240 Speaker 1: just make it the best place. Listen. We lived in cold, 613 00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:16,279 Speaker 1: snowy Connecticut, and we had to be really creative on 614 00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:18,840 Speaker 1: figuring out stuff to do. It's not a real there's 615 00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:21,200 Speaker 1: not a lot to do in Connecticut, right And in 616 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:23,520 Speaker 1: the end, I was there with Anne for like seven years. 617 00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:25,960 Speaker 1: We had a blast. Yep, we had a blast. No, 618 00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:31,160 Speaker 1: I totally agree, And that's made the difference. I mean, 619 00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:33,560 Speaker 1: we made these moves and we kind of had a 620 00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:37,040 Speaker 1: thing with where I would move and find a place 621 00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:41,120 Speaker 1: where good schools were, and she would stay back and 622 00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:43,680 Speaker 1: sell the house. And she sold and we built three 623 00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:46,960 Speaker 1: or four new houses from scratch and she was behind it, 624 00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:49,880 Speaker 1: so we kind of had a nice little system going. Yeah. No. 625 00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:52,960 Speaker 1: The only problem with that is and ninety percent of 626 00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:55,680 Speaker 1: my moves were good because I wanted to. But when 627 00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:57,400 Speaker 1: I stand up r and I talk in front of 628 00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:00,719 Speaker 1: a group and I list everywhere I coached, I kind 629 00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:02,719 Speaker 1: of give the impression I could never hold a job. 630 00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:11,560 Speaker 1: That's funny, all right, Well, you just this is perfect 631 00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:16,040 Speaker 1: because you just took your last sip of Terry Bradshaw's bourbon. 632 00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:22,520 Speaker 1: I got more when you come to dinner, We're gonna 633 00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:24,200 Speaker 1: come over here and have a drink and a snack 634 00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:26,759 Speaker 1: before we go. Do you want one? You can have one. 635 00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:29,960 Speaker 1: I'll have one for you. I'm a vodka drinker. I 636 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:33,319 Speaker 1: got playing on that too, all right. I know you 637 00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:35,920 Speaker 1: did all right, coach, great seeing you, all right, Call 638 00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:41,520 Speaker 1: and see ybuddy. All right. Check us out are YouTube 639 00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:47,759 Speaker 1: page at the volume, Twitter at the volume, Instagram at 640 00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:53,480 Speaker 1: the volume, sign up, rate, review, subscribe. I tell my 641 00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:55,319 Speaker 1: wife this all the time. I've never met a guy 642 00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:59,319 Speaker 1: in sports who is more connected. I call him Uncle 643 00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:04,320 Speaker 1: Dave than Dave wants at the Great American Sports LinkedIn. 644 00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:10,160 Speaker 1: He's a human football LinkedIn. I have Jake Paul coming up, 645 00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:17,000 Speaker 1: Triple H the Wrestler coming up, and major announcements coming 646 00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:51,400 Speaker 1: up very soon at the volume. The volume