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Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of Big Blue Kickoff Live right

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Speaker 1: here on Giants dot Com. John Schmolke, Paul to Tino

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Speaker 1: with you the phone number two one four five one three,

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Speaker 1: throughout the season. Happy Friday. I'm glad to be on

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Speaker 1: this week, my first show of the week because of

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Speaker 1: the Monday night game short weeks. I'm happy to be here. Um.

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Speaker 1: We'll take your calls of course at two five one three.

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Speaker 1: Will keep an eye on Twitter as well at hashtag

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Speaker 1: Giants Chat. Paul getting ready for the Giants and Bucks,

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Speaker 1: and I'll give my brief take on the game. You'll

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Speaker 1: see my four page preview up later on today or

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Speaker 1: tomorrow about the game. It's up already. Thank you, Brandon. Um,

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Speaker 1: we're really an exhaustive tape study on what the Bucks

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Speaker 1: want to do. But to me, this game is simple, Paul.

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Speaker 1: The Bucks have one of the most explosive pass offenses

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Speaker 1: in the league. They had five cards last week. They

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Speaker 1: only scored three points The reason they scored three points

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Speaker 1: was simple, they gave the ball away. How do you

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Speaker 1: force the Bucks to give the ball away? You gotta

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Speaker 1: put pressure on the quarterback. If the Giants cannot pressure

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Speaker 1: the quarterback and get takeaways in this game, it's gonna

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Speaker 1: be very difficult for them to win because the Bucks

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Speaker 1: are going to score points if you don't do those

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Speaker 1: two things. And the Bucks offensive line is okay, it's

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Speaker 1: certainly not great. I don't think it's terrible either, but

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Speaker 1: the opportunities should be there with their downfield passing game.

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Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick will hold the ball, Fitzpatrick will throw it in

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Speaker 1: the traffic. Fitzpatrick will give your team a chance to

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Speaker 1: make some plays. The question is can the Giants take

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Speaker 1: advantage of that? Yeah. When I talked to Alec Gogletree

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Speaker 1: in the locker room and Olivia Vernon also, uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: two of the key Giants defensive guys in the front seven,

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Speaker 1: they both said that Fitzpatrick he will give it away

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Speaker 1: in bunches, which we know obviously he does have some

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Speaker 1: interception itis on occasion. The Jets fans certainly know that

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Speaker 1: he is I believe, picks in three fumbles so far

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Speaker 1: this year, I'm not mistaken. And he's also been sacked

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Speaker 1: thirteen times. He is he is sackable, he is pickable.

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Speaker 1: If you will, I'm going to create a new word.

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Speaker 1: Um and And the thing that I asked Vernon was

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Speaker 1: when Fitzpatrick over his career has had these bunches of interceptions,

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Speaker 1: what is the thing you've noticed the most about them?

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Speaker 1: Were they because he made poor decisions and forced it,

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Speaker 1: which some quarterbacks are known to do, or was it

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Speaker 1: primarily because somebody got in his face and he tended

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Speaker 1: to to wilt under the heat. Vernon said it was

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Speaker 1: definitely the latter. It was that he did not deal

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Speaker 1: with pressure very well. It wasn't so much Fitzpatrick's decision making.

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Speaker 1: It was that if guy's got in his face, that's

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Speaker 1: when he tended to throw the picks. So bottom line

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Speaker 1: for the Giants is you're gonna have to get some

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Speaker 1: some passwash. I'm with you on this, but what I

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Speaker 1: do think is really interesting, he's not. The Buccaneers also

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Speaker 1: have the worst defense in terms of points allowed in

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Speaker 1: the NFL. Oh they're they're They're as bad as the

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Speaker 1: Saints and the Falcons were. When the Giants were getting

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Speaker 1: ready for those two and yet the Giants did not

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Speaker 1: score enough points to beat those teams. Bingo, But I think, Paul,

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Speaker 1: do you agree minimum seven in this game to win it?

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Speaker 1: So to win it, I think you gotta score twenty

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Speaker 1: seven to be comfortable. Right, Uh yeah, yeah, I'd say

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Speaker 1: at least twenty four to have a chance to win.

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Speaker 1: Seven increases your chances, you know, um, because the Giants

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Speaker 1: could win this game if Tampa Bay wants to turn

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Speaker 1: the ball over three or four times, which they're capable

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Speaker 1: twenty five giveaways this year's folks. That's almost three per games.

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Speaker 1: So you can't look at me and say I'm crazy.

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Speaker 1: They could easily turn it over three You're crazy for

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Speaker 1: different understand that. But I mean it's not unlike them

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Speaker 1: to do that, oh of course. And if they turned

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Speaker 1: They were all for four scoring touchdowns. There were one

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Speaker 1: Kicking has been a prompt for this Bucks team for years,

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Speaker 1: something they haven't figured out yet. Of course, given their

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Speaker 1: last two years. But but Paul, here's the thing, and

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Speaker 1: I think we've talked about the offense a lot. The

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Speaker 1: doesn't get the looks. You know. He is the second

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Speaker 1: highest yards per catch on the team. It's almost sixteen

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Speaker 1: He's good. Humphries is a pretty good slot guy. Cameron Brake,

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Speaker 1: And again, you gotta get those takeaways. I agree. I

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Speaker 1: think Fitzpatrick struggles with pressure. I also think he computes

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Speaker 1: lot of times he has too much faith in his

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Speaker 1: accuracy in his arm to get the ball places where

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Speaker 1: it shouldn't go, and there'll be a defender winning there sometimes,

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Speaker 1: but he doesn't anticipate it. And I think almost he

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Speaker 1: the other side, I think for the Giants, offense is

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Speaker 1: pretty simple, Paul. If you can protect and the Bucks

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Speaker 1: pass rush. Again, I wouldn't call it one of the

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Speaker 1: worst in the league. It's okay. Jpps is what he is.

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Speaker 1: We've seen him a million times. Gerald McCoy, in my opinion,

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Speaker 1: you they're back seven, and I'm not sure what Lavante

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Speaker 1: not there, they're playing two rookie cornerbacks and Carlton Davis

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Speaker 1: our draft prep last year. A big guy likes to,

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Speaker 1: He's there slot cornerback, and then Justin Evans, their free

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Speaker 1: So they have a lot of young guys in that secondary,

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Speaker 1: and they've given up a ton a ton of big plays.

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Speaker 1: I think after last week, Paul Pat Schremer said he

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Speaker 1: has given the head coach enough confidence to call more

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Speaker 1: plays to get the ball down field, to let Eli

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Speaker 1: hold it, maybe that second longer on a seven step

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Speaker 1: drop or a five step drop to get the ball downfield,

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Speaker 1: and I think they're gonna be able to do it

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Speaker 1: scoring thirty points for each team, and I think it's

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Speaker 1: gonna be a lot of fun. I'm gonna go with

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Speaker 1: step further. I do think the Giants will take more

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go step further than you on this one.

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Speaker 1: Giants had seventeen runs fifteen passes in the first half

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Speaker 1: last week. Their balance was just incredible. Even though they

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Speaker 1: very very well. And that the scre the first half

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Speaker 1: don't matter, doesn't matter. That's not that's not the point.

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Speaker 1: The point is this. The game ended up six ratio

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Speaker 1: uh passed to run, but because they were seventeen fifteen

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Speaker 1: bit on their heels, and that's the entire point of

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Speaker 1: trying to have some balance in the game. So I'm

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Speaker 1: will they take some more shots down field, I also

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Speaker 1: believe in the first half they're gonna run the ball

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Speaker 1: of hell came a lot more than what we've seen before.

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Speaker 1: I think Barkley is going to have a mega mega game.

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Speaker 1: They run defense hasn't been bad. I think they're on

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Speaker 1: eighteen in the league in yards per play running the football.

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Speaker 1: That's not enough to intimidate you. Oh no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: They're fun defense is far from they were they were.

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Speaker 1: They were a top five run defense. I would say

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Speaker 1: you Barkley runs the ball almost twenty five times, if

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Speaker 1: run there in the pregame. You really need to And

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Speaker 1: I'm going to tell you right now what my answer

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Speaker 1: is gonna Barkley is gonna be over under on totally

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Speaker 1: yards from scrimmage. He's gonna be somewhere in the neighborhood

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Speaker 1: of a hundred and seventy five. Wow. Wow, it's a

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Speaker 1: big number. It's a big number. No, I think that

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Speaker 1: I think they're gonna feed the beast. Now. The key

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Speaker 1: you can't afford why you're establishing the run to punt

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Speaker 1: it two of your first three or three or four

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Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, you can't be balanced anymore.

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Speaker 1: So the defense has to allow you to play that.

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Speaker 1: We have to stay within ten points and of course

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Speaker 1: half right exactly, if you're within ten points in the

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Speaker 1: first half, you can do that. Sure, if you're down

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Speaker 1: by two full scores, now you play catching and now

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Speaker 1: it's a problem. But I'm when I say, Barkley hundred

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Speaker 1: seventy total. I'm talking past n run because I think

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Speaker 1: also think he's going to catch a couple of downfield

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Speaker 1: go over one seventy in this game. Do you think

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Speaker 1: the offensive line ran block, run blocked or pass blocked better?

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Speaker 1: Last week? They were better pass blocking than run blocking.

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Speaker 1: the guys that are being listed is out? Wow? Go

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Speaker 1: to it. Vinny Curry ankle, Justin Evans toe, Ronald Jones, hamstring,

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Speaker 1: m J. Stewart foot, Lavante David David has ruled out

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Speaker 1: not doubtful. Now he's out out questionable. Chris Godwin, Ryan

429
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Speaker 1: Jensen and Karl Nazt. You know they're three and six,

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Speaker 1: and I I don't want to speak to the Buccaneers

431
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Speaker 1: because I'm not at practice, so I can't tell you

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Speaker 1: what their energy is, what their emotion is, how they

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Speaker 1: feel about their coaching staff. And it looked like from

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Speaker 1: looking at their game tape that they're they're still involved

435
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Speaker 1: in the game. It didn't look like that. But a

436
00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:45,520
Speaker 1: lot of times you can't tell unless you're around a

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Speaker 1: team on an everyday basis, no question, and we don't

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Speaker 1: have a Buccaneers right or on to talk about this,

439
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Speaker 1: but I will tell you this, and I do believe this,

440
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Speaker 1: and I'm not giving you a bunch of smoke, folks,

441
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Speaker 1: because I've been around some Giants teams that lost a

442
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Speaker 1: lot of games and they checked out, all right, I

443
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Speaker 1: think you have to see last year. Okay, this Giant's

444
00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:05,520
Speaker 1: team is not checked out. They have not. No, I agree,

445
00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:09,080
Speaker 1: and and that's a good thing because if you get

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Speaker 1: a team like Tampa coming up to the nasty metal lands,

447
00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:14,760
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know. I think they're forecasting about

448
00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:20,640
Speaker 1: forty degrees and some high winds, nasty, brisk, late November weather. Um.

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Speaker 1: This is usually the kind of situation where if you

450
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Speaker 1: can get up on a team of this nature, especially

451
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Speaker 1: one that is offensively top heavy. You can take them

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Speaker 1: out of a game and look their defensive struggle pull.

453
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Speaker 1: They're losing their two best back seven players. Dy David

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Speaker 1: and Justin Evans are their two best back seven players,

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Speaker 1: and maybe maybe break Grymes in that mix too. In fairness,

456
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Speaker 1: he's a solid and has been around a long time.

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Speaker 1: I've been around a long time, but not the same

458
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Speaker 1: player that has never lived up to his potential. No,

459
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Speaker 1: and that was a I'm not gonna go with the

460
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Speaker 1: bust of a free agent signing. But it hasn't worked out.

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Speaker 1: And Karl nassas questionable, so that would be another one

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Speaker 1: of the past rushers. Um who would start for Curry.

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Speaker 1: I would imagine if since Curry can't go, um, that

464
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Speaker 1: might not be able to play. So, boy, that is

465
00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:07,439
Speaker 1: a rough injury report for the Bucks. Boy, the Giants

466
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Speaker 1: better scores and points, Paul the better course. Again, I

467
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Speaker 1: don't I don't want to be the Jinks or the

468
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Speaker 1: guy who's gonna put a hex on this whole thing.

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Speaker 1: But when we talked right before the bye weekend said,

470
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Speaker 1: coming out of the bye, the Giants have a chance

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Speaker 1: to do some business because the schedule is lighter than

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Speaker 1: what it was in the first half of the season.

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Speaker 1: I hate to say it, John, but it's really looking

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Speaker 1: that way more and more every day like they're going

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Speaker 1: to have an opportunity to at least make a little

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Speaker 1: bit of noise here. I mean, Chicago is good their

477
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Speaker 1: first place. They'll be here in two weeks and at

478
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Speaker 1: filling out. Washington is always tough. But San Francisco and Tampa,

479
00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:49,320
Speaker 1: you know they're gonna be shot in those games. They

480
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Speaker 1: won one, the Giants all trying to win the next two, five, one, three.

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Speaker 1: We want to remind you that Big Book Kick Golf

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Speaker 1: Live is presented by Cores Light Down with the Coors

483
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Speaker 1: Light rewards app to an amazing Giants pride just throughout

484
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Speaker 1: the season. Let's go to our buddy Antonio in Manhattan.

485
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Speaker 1: He'll lead us off. Antonio. What's up, Hey, what's going on? Guys?

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Speaker 1: How do you get doing today? What's up? Um? I

487
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:14,680
Speaker 1: hate to be this caller, but I'm gonna do it anyways.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna be a bit of pragmatic. Um. So throughout

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Speaker 1: the whole week I've been here in the show. You know,

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Speaker 1: I've been able to call m but I've been here

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Speaker 1: in the show and I've been hearing people, you know,

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Speaker 1: really positive about the Giant. But I want to start

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Speaker 1: off first with this matchup to talk about the our defense.

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Speaker 1: Our defense. If they stick to man coverage like they

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Speaker 1: did against the forty niners, we're going to get blown

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Speaker 1: out the water because Landing Collins is not going to

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Speaker 1: be able to keep up with O. J. Howard or

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Speaker 1: Cameron Braid. They're really good tight ends and pretty much

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Speaker 1: they have so much firepower on the field that on

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Speaker 1: man coverage, it's just gonna get really really young, you know,

501
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Speaker 1: and totally Antonio, you've caught a lot about this. I

502
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Speaker 1: just don't let you know. I know, it might look

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Speaker 1: to you like man sometimes on TV with the way

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Speaker 1: the covers goes on. But the Giants play a ton

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Speaker 1: of Cover three too. I mean they're not in man

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Speaker 1: coverage of time, they played more, but they're playing but

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00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:06,720
Speaker 1: they playing covered through. They're playing cover three, but they're

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Speaker 1: playing a lot of single high safety to man coverage.

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Speaker 1: That's what they're doing. Well. Remember Cover three is single high,

510
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:15,960
Speaker 1: that's the thing. And there's also single high one zone

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Speaker 1: the safety cover one one, right, so they playing one

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Speaker 1: of that that's actually what I say the most. The

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Speaker 1: two interceptions that b J. Goodson had, those were both

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Speaker 1: on zone coverage. I appreciate that I did see more. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but but but here, here's here's what. Here's my biggest

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Speaker 1: problem with the Giants secondary and what they're doing. And

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Speaker 1: I disagree with you. I don't think they're gonna play

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Speaker 1: a ton of man against the Bucketeers. I don't think

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Speaker 1: so either. To be honest, no, I don't so. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I think that assumption that they will is a bad idea.

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Speaker 1: I don't think they're going to. That's the first thing

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Speaker 1: I want to say. The second thing I want to

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Speaker 1: say is this what the Giants I think should do

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Speaker 1: more of And I'd like to see bet Youer do

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Speaker 1: more of it. But I understand his reluctance to given

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Speaker 1: the fact that there had in some some different parts

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Speaker 1: back there. Obviously Eli Apple is no longer here. Uh

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Speaker 1: so they've had to make some adjustments there with their

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Speaker 1: nickel package. They've tried to work Chandler into the dime,

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Speaker 1: They've worked in Haley into the nickel um. Curtis Riley

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Speaker 1: unfortunately has busted, in my opinion, a bunch of assignments,

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Speaker 1: especially zone. Don't think at Michael Thomas three safety package

533
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Speaker 1: last week to Michael Michael Tomas, I liked him in

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Speaker 1: the in the the Jumbo Nickel, big Nickel, the big Nickel.

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Speaker 1: I like him in the big nickel. Okay, I personally,

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Speaker 1: if I was gonna, if I was gonna put somebody

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Speaker 1: manned up on on on the tight end, it would

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Speaker 1: be Thomas. To be perfectly honest with you, I wouldn't

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Speaker 1: put Landon Collins on him. If I was gonna go man,

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Speaker 1: I go Thomas on O. J. Howard. But here's what

541
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Speaker 1: I'm saying, here's what you should because then they see

542
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Speaker 1: Thomas is gonna be on the on the box, and

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Speaker 1: then they're gonna just run right at him and they're

544
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Speaker 1: gonna smother him. Thomas is a pretty good tackler. He is.

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Speaker 1: He's physical. He's a physical player. The thing is, would

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Speaker 1: he break get off attack not? Well. I mean, you

547
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Speaker 1: gotta give him some chances to make a play. I mean,

548
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:10,719
Speaker 1: at times he's gonna get beat. At other times he's

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Speaker 1: gonna make the play. You gotta have some confidence in

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Speaker 1: the guy. But here, here's here's what're getting back to

551
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Speaker 1: my original point. What the Giants don't do often enough

552
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:22,920
Speaker 1: is showman at the beginning of the play, and then

553
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 1: one of the techniques you can use is showman and

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00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:29,080
Speaker 1: then play zone. Now, how do you do that? I

555
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:31,080
Speaker 1: know I'm getting a little technical here for some of

556
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Speaker 1: the folks out there, but it's important to understand this.

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Speaker 1: When you watch a play and you see a guy

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Speaker 1: showing man coverage, if it's gonna be a crossing route

559
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:45,520
Speaker 1: of any type, okay, the second that that receiver crosses

560
00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 1: the nose of the defender and goes to the opposite

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00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 1: side of the field, he needs to pass him off

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Speaker 1: to the other defender on his other shoulder. Okay. That's

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00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:59,720
Speaker 1: what's known as handing off a defender, and it means

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00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:02,240
Speaker 1: you have started out in man and then gone into

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00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 1: his zone cover and with that old bee pop. A

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00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 1: lot of times that will be show pressed man and

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Speaker 1: you boil into that cover three. Okay. I'd like to

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Speaker 1: see the Giants do more of that. I don't think

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Speaker 1: they do enough of it to suit me. That's simply

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00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 1: my taste. Now, I'm not gonna be critical of Betcher

571
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Speaker 1: for not doing more of it. It would be something

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Speaker 1: i'd like to see more of, but I know he

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Speaker 1: has his reasons why he doesn't do it. Part of

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Speaker 1: the reason is they're not getting enough pressure. Another part

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Speaker 1: of the reason is he doesn't necessarily believe that the

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Speaker 1: guys in the back seven can get it right, because

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Speaker 1: the truth is, you've gotta be really mentally on on

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Speaker 1: the game if you're gonna start passing guys off. Boy,

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Speaker 1: if you don't pass guys off and the other guy's

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00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 1: not there to take him, guess what busted coverage fifty touchdown. Okay,

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Speaker 1: Based on that comment that John said that James Betcher made,

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Speaker 1: it seems like he's not saying the scheme is the problem.

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Speaker 1: It's the execution where guys are not getting to the quarterback.

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Speaker 1: And yes, it could be true, but I also feel

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Speaker 1: like we're just not in a very favorable scheme right now. Um,

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Speaker 1: you know, there was just there was just too many

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Speaker 1: plays where I saw all the all the offensive players

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Speaker 1: in the Phonny and I've had to do was run

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Speaker 1: away from the Giants on crossing routes, on different type

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00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 1: of routes, and it was just, hey, run away from them,

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Speaker 1: That's pretty much it. And it was too often. So

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Speaker 1: I just this game for for against the Bucks. I

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Speaker 1: want to see him in his zone. I want to

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Speaker 1: see in that three safety package. I love Landon Collins

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Speaker 1: in the box. I think that's where you should belong.

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Speaker 1: Like all times, that's who and you know, and I

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Speaker 1: want to see I want to see Tom it's back there.

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Speaker 1: I would love to see some cover too. You don't

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00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 1: get that from the Giants a lot. Um. You know

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Speaker 1: what they do is sometimes they'll have like somebody a

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Speaker 1: single high and I'll give the better of this credit.

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00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 1: They'll have somebody single high and then Landon Collins kind

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Speaker 1: of points at the guy like, hey, moves to the

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Speaker 1: side because I'm coming back up. And I appreciate that.

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Speaker 1: That's actually pretty cool. I like what I'm seeing that

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Speaker 1: this year. Um. And then one last thing, I just

607
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Speaker 1: want to talk about the offense yet real quick. So

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Speaker 1: the forty nine has made a lot, a lot of

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Speaker 1: defensive mistakes and if we don't get that from the

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00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:04,959
Speaker 1: Bucks again, you guys are mentioning how the Bucks are

611
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Speaker 1: the worst defense or one of the worst defenses. At

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Speaker 1: the end of the day, we just haven't capitalized unless

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Speaker 1: critical mistakes. Eli Manning, and I hate to bash Eli,

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Speaker 1: but I'm gonna do it again. He missed two deep

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00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 1: balls and he missed Odell empty uh and Paul, you

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Speaker 1: mentioned that he threw a bachelor. He tried to throw

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Speaker 1: a bachelor to fade to say, Kuan, I saw the tape.

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00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:27,160
Speaker 1: It wasn't a bachelor to fade it was it was

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Speaker 1: an arc ball. It was gonna be a deep ball.

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Speaker 1: He just anaccurate through it. The Odell ball, he was

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Speaker 1: on the twenty three yard line. He drew a bomb,

622
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 1: but it was you know, obviously, he just threw it

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Speaker 1: too late. It's a bad throw. The ball got the

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00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 1: ball got away from him and on the on the

625
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,480
Speaker 1: bar away fro him though, because they got really far

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Speaker 1: down the field. Yea, yeah, you know. It's funny. Actually, Antonio,

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00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:49,680
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if you heard him. They'll talked about

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Speaker 1: that player this week, and he said that was supposed

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Speaker 1: to be a stutter go. But the way and and

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Speaker 1: and the way the defender played, he goes, I really

631
00:31:56,880 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 1: didn't hesitate as much as I should have. So then

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Speaker 1: by the time Eli was done with that play action, Antonio,

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Speaker 1: thanks for the call. We appreciate it. By the time

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Speaker 1: Eli was done with that play action, he was so

635
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 1: far down the field that it took a lot for

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Speaker 1: you to get the ball down there. Look, he could

637
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 1: have gone it down there. He made a bad throw.

638
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:16,800
Speaker 1: It happens. Yeah, no, No, there's no question the Barkley

639
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 1: play though, And and again, I want to make something

640
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 1: real clear about the Barkley play. I think Eli's mistake

641
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:23,960
Speaker 1: was even allowing that ball to be anywhere in the

642
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 1: vicinity because if you looked at the route and the defender,

643
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 1: there was no room to get that in there. You

644
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 1: would have had to throw it over his outside shoulder,

645
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 1: and there was probably about two inches inside the sideline

646
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:38,560
Speaker 1: for him to make that play. What what Eli should

647
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 1: have done instead of being criticized for being inaccurate and

648
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 1: not getting the ball out there, what he's what you

649
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 1: could criticize him on is why did you throw that

650
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:49,120
Speaker 1: ball into the third row? Throw it out of bounds

651
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 1: so that nobody could get it because Barkley was was

652
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 1: pinched up again the side against the sideline where there's

653
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 1: no way you were going to complete that pass. So

654
00:32:57,120 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 1: the criticism of Eli to me is at ree a ry,

655
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 1: It's not it's not the appropriate criticism on that play anyway. Yeah,

656
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 1: I don't want to get into the weeds on that

657
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 1: particular play a week later, but um, we could talk

658
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 1: about that first. He wanted to bring it up again.

659
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:12,280
Speaker 1: I know, I know. I'm not saying it's your fault.

660
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 1: I don want to apologize my cold. By the way, folks,

661
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 1: I'm doing my best here. Um. I was out in

662
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:19,320
Speaker 1: thirty degree weather in snow last Saturday, and then I'll

663
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 1: have the chance to do it again this Saturday before

664
00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 1: the Bucks game, So I might not be able to

665
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 1: talk on Monday. We'll find out. Paul would love that,

666
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 1: but I will and sold my wife two four or

667
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 1: five on three. Joe in Pennsylvania, Joe, Hey, Hi guys,

668
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 1: Hey Joe um first and asked the young quarterback that

669
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 1: was suspended the first two games, is he injured or

670
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 1: just benched? What's Winston? Yeah? Yeah, he's benched. Oh okay,

671
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:48,239
Speaker 1: do you know why, Joe? He's benched because he threw

672
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:52,720
Speaker 1: I think eleven interceptions in three games. Yeah, but you

673
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 1: never know he can come into the game because you know,

674
00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:58,320
Speaker 1: the the IVY League quarterback and do that too, and

675
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:01,240
Speaker 1: he could not to you know what I mean. So

676
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:03,719
Speaker 1: you just don't know who's gonna be in there. Joe

677
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 1: I agree. I don't think it's impossible that we see

678
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 1: Winston in the second half off Fitzpatrick plays particularly poorly.

679
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think that's impossible. And six

680
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:15,400
Speaker 1: they have to be desperate exactly. And the Cutter's coaching

681
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 1: for his job, well, he sure is gonna get in

682
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 1: there sometime again, because I would think he's their future quarterback.

683
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:25,360
Speaker 1: And Joe, I never thought he was that good in

684
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 1: the first place. I thought they were foolish to take him,

685
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 1: and I think that's played out pretty well, Joe. The

686
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:33,239
Speaker 1: funny thing with Winston and they do not have a

687
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 1: decision yet who's calling plays. Cutter call plays last week

688
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 1: instead of Monkin. Which is weird is they were so

689
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 1: good um leading into that game. They have not They

690
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:43,760
Speaker 1: have not announced who's calling plays this week. The funny

691
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:47,000
Speaker 1: thing about Winston, Joe, is that he's actually as a

692
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:50,960
Speaker 1: really good arm He moves around well, he's fairly accurate.

693
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 1: He just makes some of the worst decisions you'll ever

694
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:58,879
Speaker 1: seen quite a few games for him last year. That's

695
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 1: the thing. That's the thing. He'll look right for like

696
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 1: three or four games and then it's like the brain

697
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 1: falls out of his hand. He just throws it to

698
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:06,839
Speaker 1: me the team too much. I really believe last year

699
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:09,279
Speaker 1: was his high watermark. I don't think you're ever gonna

700
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:11,319
Speaker 1: see development out of him, just like I think you

701
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 1: so you've already seen the best that Dak Prescott will

702
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:16,520
Speaker 1: will show you. He will never get better. Okay, now

703
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:19,759
Speaker 1: that that last game, the Niners game, I think that

704
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 1: was our worst UH defense that was rushing against the Niners.

705
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 1: I think the Niners had three to five seconds average

706
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:33,479
Speaker 1: back there to throw a pass. It was bad. So

707
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:36,720
Speaker 1: I think without Apple there, I think he's a little afraid.

708
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 1: He's not blitzing as much either. I I do see

709
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 1: that there. You just covered a lot I was talking about.

710
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:45,360
Speaker 1: But that's what I'm very concerned about, you know, and

711
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 1: covering the tight end. You just went through all that

712
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 1: there though. But this would make my day if we

713
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 1: could beat the UH Tampa Bay and then the Eagles

714
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 1: would be my super Bowl here because I have to

715
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 1: put up with all the fans around here. That would

716
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 1: make it for me to knock them out out and

717
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:06,759
Speaker 1: put put a dagger in him because that would do

718
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:10,360
Speaker 1: it because they talk about us, well you know what

719
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 1: I mean, Well, this is the only one because they're

720
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:15,759
Speaker 1: they're down now and they're announcers talking, well, this is

721
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 1: the only one I can mark up as a win

722
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:21,280
Speaker 1: and it would make my Christmas and all day into

723
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 1: the next season. So I hope we can play a

724
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:26,799
Speaker 1: good game. Thanks for taking my call. Thank you, Joe.

725
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:29,239
Speaker 1: I was good to hear from you. Thal Let that

726
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:31,760
Speaker 1: Eagles game is in Philly, which is never a fun,

727
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 1: fun place to go. Good luck, so, Joe, I hope

728
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:38,920
Speaker 1: they can take care of business for you. But that's

729
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 1: a tough game and it's not a great match up

730
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 1: with that defensive No, it's not. It's just it's just not.

731
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:50,439
Speaker 1: Jason Manhattan, he's on next. He's in from Australia. What's up, Jason, Yeah, guys, Yeah,

732
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:53,240
Speaker 1: traveling all the way from Sydney, Australia. A long time listener,

733
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:56,320
Speaker 1: first time call. Uh and actually was that the game

734
00:36:56,680 --> 00:37:00,879
Speaker 1: in San Francisco on Monday? And wait, wait, wait a minute,

735
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 1: wait you went to you went to the game in

736
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:06,880
Speaker 1: San Francisco and you're in New York now? Yes? What

737
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:11,360
Speaker 1: is back to back games? I'm a huge fan this season.

738
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:15,880
Speaker 1: I'm yeah, back to back games. I'm hoping I'm the Giants.

739
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 1: Good luck charm. So can I ask what you do

740
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 1: for a living h digital marketing manager for a tech

741
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 1: startup back in Sydney. Well, first of all, I love

742
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 1: the accent and with this and with this dedication, you

743
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:36,279
Speaker 1: have the floor say whatever you want. Thanks guys. So

744
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 1: just the question is we last week we've assisted with

745
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 1: the run game, even though Barkley was only getting one

746
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 1: or two yards on some runs, and I think that

747
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 1: really helped open up the passing game. And I'm just

748
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:50,880
Speaker 1: wondering why it's taken this long in the season to

749
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:54,879
Speaker 1: trust with the sitting with the run games. Well, I'm

750
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:56,840
Speaker 1: not sure it's sure if you share those thoughts, but

751
00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 1: we kind of talked about that during the monologue forehand,

752
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 1: earlier in the show, those were purpose runs more than

753
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 1: they were gaining yardage plays. And I really love that

754
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 1: because I think purpose runs do an awful lot to

755
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:13,799
Speaker 1: set up what you're going to do later in the game,

756
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:17,319
Speaker 1: keeping defenses honest and keeping them off balance so that

757
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 1: you have the ability to call other stuff in your playbook.

758
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:23,839
Speaker 1: I'm a big fan of purpose runs, I've always been,

759
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 1: but unfortunately, because the Giants were unable to put any

760
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 1: confidence in the mixture, of offensive lines that they were

761
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 1: putting out on the field. They couldn't even run purpose

762
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 1: runs earlier in the season. They felt hamstrong by trying

763
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:39,920
Speaker 1: to do it. But I think now you tell me

764
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 1: if I'm wrong, John, I really believe that they already

765
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 1: are showing a tremendous amount of confidence in this particular

766
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 1: five that it's playing on the offensive line. We saw

767
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:52,799
Speaker 1: it last week. They plugged Brown in right away and

768
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:56,239
Speaker 1: immediately Sherman started shifting the balance of what they were doing.

769
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 1: I need to see more one games on enough for me.

770
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:01,760
Speaker 1: I think early signs. I remember last week to Barkley's

771
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 1: first two runs I think went for thirty seven yards

772
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 1: and his next eight team went for thirty or then

773
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:09,239
Speaker 1: his first two runs went for twenty six yards, at

774
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 1: his next eight team went for you know, forty. So

775
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:15,399
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna go nuts about that, but I think

776
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:18,719
Speaker 1: the early signs are positive. We'll see what happens this week.

777
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 1: I think the fact they're playing the forty nine ers

778
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:24,879
Speaker 1: um and they're not a very good offensive team, They're

779
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 1: not explosive, it allows you to play that way. I'm

780
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 1: not sure you can play that way against the Niners

781
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:36,719
Speaker 1: if you're not getting production. Um, if they're continually in

782
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:39,439
Speaker 1: second and nine and second and eight into the second

783
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:42,319
Speaker 1: quarter and they've only scored six points, I think you're

784
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 1: gonna ventual. You have to start throwing the bar early,

785
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:45,840
Speaker 1: and I think you have to. I would have this.

786
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:50,480
Speaker 1: If the Giants can continue what they did last week

787
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 1: with the purposeful runs, it will be to their benefit

788
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:56,719
Speaker 1: next week in Philadelphia because Philly wants you to be

789
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:59,919
Speaker 1: one dimensional, they want you to abandon the one game,

790
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 1: and their run defense hasn't been as good this year. Really, no,

791
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:04,799
Speaker 1: it has it. So if the Giants can get that

792
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 1: going again for the second week in a row, maybe

793
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:10,080
Speaker 1: John will start to believe. Okay, and I'll tell you what,

794
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 1: maybe the Eagles will be forced to believe if the

795
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:17,839
Speaker 1: Giants can then show that to them on consecutive games. Yeah.

796
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 1: Thanks so as that makes a lot of sense. And

797
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:22,279
Speaker 1: just one quick observation before I go. I was I

798
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:24,880
Speaker 1: was sitting a few rows back from the Giant sideline

799
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 1: on Monday night, and I think you said, Paul, the

800
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:31,319
Speaker 1: team was very positive and Odell was very encouraging to

801
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:33,960
Speaker 1: his teammates. He was. I just yeah, I saw that

802
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:36,759
Speaker 1: as well, and I'm so I'm compantly going into this week.

803
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:38,480
Speaker 1: I think the team is in a good headspace and

804
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 1: so credits a patch. Uh, given where we're at in

805
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:44,640
Speaker 1: the season. And I want to say this to Jason,

806
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 1: if you're gonna be sitting close to the field again,

807
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:48,239
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if you saw Paul in San Francisco.

808
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:51,080
Speaker 1: If you see as if you see a crazed man

809
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:55,280
Speaker 1: in a suit pacing the sidelines, that's Paul. I'm serious,

810
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 1: yell out to him. He'll come over. You guys have

811
00:40:57,239 --> 00:41:00,439
Speaker 1: a nice chat. Actually, yeah, I actually spotted Paul. Yeah,

812
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:05,759
Speaker 1: he's talked me to one of the cameramanography. So yeah,

813
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 1: it was. It was a great atmosphere, a good, good

814
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 1: game to be at. So good luck, good luck this weekend.

815
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 1: Let's do it well. Thank you so much for supporting

816
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:13,880
Speaker 1: your club, doing me a favorite. Jason, stopped by what

817
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:16,279
Speaker 1: we're doing. We're doing the pregame show live and met

818
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:17,880
Speaker 1: life game before the game. If you're go into the game,

819
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:21,440
Speaker 1: stop by, say hello, yeah, we'll do, we'll do. I appreciate.

820
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:24,400
Speaker 1: Take my thanks, Jason, no question, that's great stuff all

821
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:27,239
Speaker 1: the way from Australia. That's outstanding. I love I'm gonna

822
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:31,799
Speaker 1: sucker for those accents. Great, you know it's funny John,

823
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 1: Because so I had gone up into the stands. I

824
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 1: had some friends who would come down from the game

825
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:38,840
Speaker 1: from another part of California, and when I went to

826
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 1: see them, a gentleman from London stopped me. And he

827
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:44,759
Speaker 1: was at the game last year when we went to

828
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 1: the to the to what was the name was two

829
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:48,719
Speaker 1: years ago? Two years ago? Right, ok? I was like,

830
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:52,440
Speaker 1: it hasn't gone that fast. Was totting him twicken hand,

831
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:54,719
Speaker 1: twicken twicken hand. We had gone there to play the Rams,

832
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:57,200
Speaker 1: remember that. And the guy had gone to the game

833
00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:59,719
Speaker 1: then and this was his first trip, I guess over

834
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:02,080
Speaker 1: to see the Giants and the States. And he was

835
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 1: just saying, oh, you know, I watch you all the

836
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 1: time on Big Blue Kickoff, and he was he had

837
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 1: the whole accent thing going. It was just kind of neat.

838
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 1: Never expected to run into an English fellow. Were brit

839
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:14,400
Speaker 1: I guess the Briton is what they call. That's fine, okay.

840
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:17,799
Speaker 1: Never expected to run into a brit in San Francisco.

841
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:20,279
Speaker 1: Giants fans on the last said he had he had

842
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:23,319
Speaker 1: an old style Giants jacket. Just remember when we went

843
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:26,200
Speaker 1: to London and we did. Of course they didn't have

844
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:28,440
Speaker 1: they brought the big guns for that. We got pushed

845
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 1: to the side. When they did Big kick Off at

846
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:32,320
Speaker 1: the Pub in London a few years ago. I remember

847
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:34,560
Speaker 1: that there was a hell of a group of people

848
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849
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868
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:27,480
Speaker 1: for taking my call. So one of the one of

869
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 1: the names I want to throw out which we haven't

870
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:31,480
Speaker 1: seen as of late, which uh you know might be

871
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 1: a good uh a good way to get him into

872
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 1: the game this this Sunday would be Connor Barwin with

873
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 1: with with the need of a pass retch. What do

874
00:43:38,080 --> 00:43:39,920
Speaker 1: you guys think the lack of playing time on his

875
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:42,399
Speaker 1: end um and you think this Sunday, maybe we see

876
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:44,400
Speaker 1: a little bit more of him considering we need we

877
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:46,359
Speaker 1: need that, we need to get to the quarterback well,

878
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:48,880
Speaker 1: right now that position has been split between Cream Morton,

879
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 1: Connor Barwin and Lorenzo Carter. And I think you want

880
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:54,719
Speaker 1: to give Carter as many snaps as possible to let

881
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:57,479
Speaker 1: him develop. Um, I think you'll probably. I think barn

882
00:43:57,560 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 1: right now is probably still a better pass rushing than Carter. Frankly,

883
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 1: even though Carter's future as a pass rusher, I think

884
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:05,279
Speaker 1: he plays in space better than he does as a

885
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 1: pass rusher right now, because that's what he did in college.

886
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:09,799
Speaker 1: I really do. And I know that is not what

887
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:11,960
Speaker 1: they're looking for him to do, but I think he's

888
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:15,439
Speaker 1: better at that, like reading those screen passes, getting guys

889
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:16,920
Speaker 1: on the swing passes out of the back at least

890
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:19,960
Speaker 1: good at that. He carried a Breda who's a four

891
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 1: four guy on a wheel route last week, but he's

892
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:26,839
Speaker 1: not there yet as a pass or shal I'm with

893
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:28,319
Speaker 1: you if you want to. He was born a little

894
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:30,279
Speaker 1: bit to rush the pass on third down. I'm fine

895
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:31,960
Speaker 1: with it. You know. The only thing I would say

896
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 1: about Connor borrowing and I love his work ethic. He's

897
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:37,680
Speaker 1: a terrific teammate. He certainly knows a lot about the game.

898
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:40,480
Speaker 1: He's been around forever, and when you watch him, he

899
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 1: works his butt off on every single snap. The problem is,

900
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 1: most of the time when the Giants have him in

901
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 1: the game, he's in that that three four fourth lineman spot, okay,

902
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 1: and he's going up against the tackle. And I hate

903
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:59,319
Speaker 1: to say it, John, but in most cases he's physically mismatched,

904
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:01,279
Speaker 1: so wise he has to us his quick this to

905
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:03,920
Speaker 1: win those and and he's trying to the problem is

906
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:06,799
Speaker 1: he's not a spring chicken anymore. And the quickness that

907
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:09,839
Speaker 1: he had when he was seven, you know, where he

908
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 1: was able to beat the three pound tackle, that's gone.

909
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:16,240
Speaker 1: So now he's in there and he's working, and he's working,

910
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:18,360
Speaker 1: and he's working, and he's huffing and he's puffing, and

911
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 1: you watch him and you say, oh man, somebody give

912
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:23,360
Speaker 1: this guy a bone, you know, let him get that sack.

913
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:27,960
Speaker 1: And and he just he doesn't seem to have that extra,

914
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:31,920
Speaker 1: that extra snap in his rush that can get past

915
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:35,000
Speaker 1: guys who were physically much bigger than he is, and

916
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 1: they dominate him. And I feel bad for him because again,

917
00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:41,200
Speaker 1: he's done everything you could ask, but the production is

918
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:45,360
Speaker 1: just not what you needed to be. Yeah, I'm sorry.

919
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:48,479
Speaker 1: I mean, maybe come fourth quarter, giants to have a lead,

920
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:51,160
Speaker 1: you know, those offensive linemen are a little winded themselves,

921
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:53,719
Speaker 1: and maybe Borrowin could make some headway going into the

922
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:57,840
Speaker 1: fourth course and get him. I think that's not the

923
00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:00,600
Speaker 1: big factor. If you don't have leads, a guy like

924
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 1: Marwin's less useful because he's your pass rusher. If you're

925
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:06,680
Speaker 1: not up and teams don't have to pass, then when

926
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:08,520
Speaker 1: you're using him exactly so, I think that's a big

927
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:10,680
Speaker 1: part of the two. And I'm not going to tell

928
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 1: you I know the numbers on this on the snap counts,

929
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 1: but I just sweak, no, no, no no. In terms

930
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:18,920
Speaker 1: of how many times he gets picked up by a

931
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:21,640
Speaker 1: tight end and how many times he gets picked up

932
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 1: by a tackle, I'm sure it's attackle most of the time,

933
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:26,040
Speaker 1: and I have to tell you it is. It's almost

934
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:30,799
Speaker 1: always a tackle. So he is consistently working his butt off,

935
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:33,800
Speaker 1: spinning his wheels against the guy who is bigger, stronger,

936
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:37,160
Speaker 1: and more powerful than he is. And you know again,

937
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 1: i'd I'd love it if he could get in there

938
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:41,680
Speaker 1: and get a couple because he works so hard. I'd

939
00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:44,520
Speaker 1: like to see him reap some fruit off of his

940
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:47,719
Speaker 1: his hard effort. But the thing, the thing I also

941
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:50,800
Speaker 1: want to mention here too, is that Lorenzo Carter is

942
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 1: a budding star. I think he's gonna be really good. John, really,

943
00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:57,440
Speaker 1: I gotta see more as a pass I agree, but

944
00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 1: I agree with that too. Last question, guys or comment

945
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:04,200
Speaker 1: um considering the with I think it's Justin Evans, the

946
00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 1: safety he may be out with that toe injury. Andrew Adams,

947
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:10,120
Speaker 1: who obviously was with the Giants maybe in his place. Uh,

948
00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:12,920
Speaker 1: you know, we're talking about how how the Buccaneers can

949
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:15,239
Speaker 1: put up all the yardage and and we're having a

950
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:18,359
Speaker 1: difficult times as usual covering your and tight ends. I mean,

951
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:20,759
Speaker 1: I really feel like Evan Ingram just could be a

952
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:23,080
Speaker 1: game where where he could put up some numbers considering

953
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 1: they're gonna be down a man at safety and that

954
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 1: defense who's uh. I mean, we've seen it before, but

955
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 1: we keep saying, uh, you know, we got we got

956
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:32,319
Speaker 1: to get them more involved or get get get get

957
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:34,719
Speaker 1: take advantage of uh, you know, with our tight end.

958
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:37,600
Speaker 1: Do you guys feel like as as well besides Barkley,

959
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:39,640
Speaker 1: that Evan Ingram is gonna play a bigger role of

960
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:43,440
Speaker 1: this game. I absolutely could see that, no question, for

961
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:46,359
Speaker 1: all the reasons you just mentioned. I could definitely see that.

962
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:53,840
Speaker 1: All right, Hope, So thank you, thank you appreciate the

963
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:56,160
Speaker 1: car two one five on. I'm just trying to get

964
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:59,319
Speaker 1: some snap counts here for you, Paul Um over the

965
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:01,360
Speaker 1: course of the year or for those three guys, just

966
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:04,400
Speaker 1: to kind of give everybody feel for what they're snap counts.

967
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:06,800
Speaker 1: I mean, the truth is whether or not we agree

968
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:09,279
Speaker 1: on the upside for Carter. We both know he's going

969
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:12,000
Speaker 1: to get better, and the more snaps he gets it's

970
00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:14,799
Speaker 1: to the Giants benefit. He needs, you know, he needs

971
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:17,200
Speaker 1: to work on pass rush technique. He doesn't. He doesn't

972
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:20,239
Speaker 1: really have that many moves right now. No, No, that's

973
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:22,720
Speaker 1: the thing. No, he does. But he's a freakish athlete.

974
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:26,359
Speaker 1: So his potential is through the roof, whether or not

975
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:30,799
Speaker 1: he gets there as a football player to match the athleticism,

976
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 1: that's I think what we're waiting to see. I'll tell

977
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:35,480
Speaker 1: you what, in all my years of covering the Giants,

978
00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:38,880
Speaker 1: I don't know that I've ever seen an outside linebacker

979
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:44,720
Speaker 1: who has his physical skill set. He's very unique. His length,

980
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:51,080
Speaker 1: his athleticism, his pliability, his speed, his quickness. I mean,

981
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:54,359
Speaker 1: the the only guy I can't even think of might

982
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:58,160
Speaker 1: be Brad van Pelt. Van Pelt was a former safety

983
00:48:58,160 --> 00:48:59,800
Speaker 1: coming out of Michigan State. When he got to the

984
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:06,520
Speaker 1: I became an outside linebacker. Lawrence Lawrence. Lawrence doesn't count though,

985
00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:09,160
Speaker 1: because he was superman. Well that's what I'm saying, all right,

986
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:11,759
Speaker 1: Yeah he's super man. Yeah I don't count. Well, guy

987
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:17,120
Speaker 1: Lawrence was. Lawrence was to go greatest ever played played

988
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:20,600
Speaker 1: the game. That's different, right, I'm talking about a regular linebacker. Now,

989
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:25,040
Speaker 1: I honestly can't remember anybody with the physical skill set

990
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:29,160
Speaker 1: the tools that Lorenzo Carter has. Now when he could

991
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:31,759
Speaker 1: apply them is another story. You know who I put

992
00:49:31,760 --> 00:49:34,440
Speaker 1: in there because I think he would play Carter's position

993
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:40,719
Speaker 1: in Betcher's defense. Well, he was an end, he wasn't back.

994
00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:45,040
Speaker 1: What would he play in Betcher's defense? Oh you think, oh, oh,

995
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:47,520
Speaker 1: you'd be a stand up you think, h I do,

996
00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:50,320
Speaker 1: don't you. He was a big guy. Yeah, he probably

997
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:55,080
Speaker 1: would be, although was still was about to sixty to

998
00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:57,360
Speaker 1: seventy when he played, and he wasn't as long as Carter,

999
00:49:57,520 --> 00:49:59,719
Speaker 1: but he was quick. Car Carters, what do they list?

1000
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:02,319
Speaker 1: What are this? Carter? At the list? Carter about two

1001
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:07,959
Speaker 1: thirty five? They got Carter at uh that much? Man,

1002
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:12,400
Speaker 1: he's and that's the thing. He's built so well, he

1003
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:15,279
Speaker 1: doesn't look like he's carrying to fifty, correct, That's what

1004
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:17,160
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I think that would be your closest Wow,

1005
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:20,120
Speaker 1: it might be anyway. The point is he really has

1006
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:24,319
Speaker 1: such a rare toolbox. Yeah, I'm just so excited by

1007
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:26,359
Speaker 1: it and I and I really really hope that they

1008
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:28,440
Speaker 1: can develop his game to the max. All right, So

1009
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:33,120
Speaker 1: here's Carter. He has um two snaps this year, seventies

1010
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:37,040
Speaker 1: six against the run, one sixty two rushing the passer

1011
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:41,640
Speaker 1: part of me, and sixteen in coverage. Let's see if

1012
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:46,120
Speaker 1: I could find Connor Barwin. He has two nine snaps

1013
00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:49,960
Speaker 1: rush defense, a hundred thirty two rushing the passer, and

1014
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:53,839
Speaker 1: six in past defense. And then Creemartins get more because

1015
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:56,279
Speaker 1: he played for Vernon as a four time starter when

1016
00:50:56,480 --> 00:50:58,880
Speaker 1: it was at so that wouldn't be fair to his numbers.

1017
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 1: So that's what they are, just to give an idea

1018
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:03,600
Speaker 1: and quarter record the Pro Football Focus. Along with his

1019
00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:08,160
Speaker 1: two sacks, he is four quarterback hits and seven quarterback hurries.

1020
00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:12,319
Speaker 1: And that's what they have before we got five minutes ago.

1021
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:14,880
Speaker 1: I think we have two callers on the line and

1022
00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:17,080
Speaker 1: we'll get to both of you. Let's go to Jeff

1023
00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:19,160
Speaker 1: and ryde Island. He's been holding the longest. Hey, Jeffrey,

1024
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:23,600
Speaker 1: long time they'll speak. I like to wish everybody there

1025
00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:26,480
Speaker 1: and you two, you two guys, of course, happy Thanksgiving

1026
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:32,480
Speaker 1: Turkey at all. Absolutely two ways about that. Um, I

1027
00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:36,239
Speaker 1: got just three three quickies for your I haven't seen

1028
00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:38,839
Speaker 1: Dave Gentleman on video, and I'm kind of wondering how,

1029
00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:41,960
Speaker 1: you know, how he's feeling. And Jeff, he's doing. He's

1030
00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:46,040
Speaker 1: doing as well as can be expected. Um, he's doing

1031
00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:49,160
Speaker 1: very very well. His last scans were clean. They told

1032
00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:52,759
Speaker 1: him he's in complete remission, and uh, he's now just

1033
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:55,319
Speaker 1: got to go for the regular follow ups whenever those

1034
00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:57,799
Speaker 1: follow ups are scheduled for. And I mean it's all good.

1035
00:51:57,800 --> 00:52:00,919
Speaker 1: He always has high energy. I promise you that that's good.

1036
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:03,839
Speaker 1: That's a very good thing to hear. And you know,

1037
00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:08,320
Speaker 1: how was a kid beal doing? Uh with his shoulder

1038
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:12,120
Speaker 1: surgery rehab. He's rehabbing. I mean, he isn't in a

1039
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:15,239
Speaker 1: sling anymore. If that does anything for you. Um, other

1040
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:17,399
Speaker 1: than that, you know, he's not really doing much yet.

1041
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:18,920
Speaker 1: So I think that'll be something we'll have to talk

1042
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:20,960
Speaker 1: about in March when the guys come out. He does

1043
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:23,680
Speaker 1: come out to practice every day to watch. He does

1044
00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:26,279
Speaker 1: do that. I mean they're they're trying to keep him

1045
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:30,560
Speaker 1: as involved as possible. Yes see. And uh, you know,

1046
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:35,200
Speaker 1: given um, given the lack of our past rush this year, Uh,

1047
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:40,040
Speaker 1: how about anybody uh what's his name there? I can't

1048
00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:42,399
Speaker 1: even think of his name right now, he's on he's

1049
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:45,680
Speaker 1: on a practice squad, Aymoss. I think we're gonna see

1050
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:49,200
Speaker 1: him get any reps or any part of the rotations

1051
00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:52,920
Speaker 1: any other day. Actually, I just talked to every today

1052
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:56,760
Speaker 1: and I asked him if they give you any hints

1053
00:52:56,920 --> 00:52:59,879
Speaker 1: or inclination about maybe bringing you up to the fifty three,

1054
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:03,839
Speaker 1: and every city didn't know, but he did say that

1055
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:06,600
Speaker 1: they've been very pleased with his practices so far. They're

1056
00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:09,759
Speaker 1: almost using this uh Jeff as a healing year for him.

1057
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:12,520
Speaker 1: He had a pretty serious hip surgery last year, so

1058
00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:14,759
Speaker 1: I think they don't want to bring him up to

1059
00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:17,319
Speaker 1: the roster until they think that he can be the

1060
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:22,840
Speaker 1: best version of himself. Um. I think there's a decent

1061
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 1: shot we'll see him by the end of the year. Um,

1062
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:28,440
Speaker 1: But I don't think there's a guarantee there either. Yeah,

1063
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:29,880
Speaker 1: if they could get a look at him at the

1064
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 1: separate I think they'll try. Okay, guys, well enjoy your

1065
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:37,040
Speaker 1: holiday next week. I don't think I'll be able to

1066
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:42,280
Speaker 1: get through. So always a pleasure. He intrigues me, John,

1067
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:47,080
Speaker 1: because that's another guy who has a pretty impressive skill set. Moss,

1068
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:51,600
Speaker 1: I got a bad feeling about Thiselah losing his mind

1069
00:53:52,480 --> 00:54:01,760
Speaker 1: element enough jokes, I'm happy go. Charlie announced on Twitter

1070
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:04,239
Speaker 1: this afternoon that he's running for Senate in maye and

1071
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:09,360
Speaker 1: two years. Good day, good day, mit. Charlie's running on

1072
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:12,640
Speaker 1: the Charlie's running on the seldom heard of will Beatie ticket.

1073
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:17,800
Speaker 1: Hey that The only question is is are we gonna

1074
00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:23,160
Speaker 1: be wannabes a Wallaby? That's that's the question. Very clever, Charlie.

1075
00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:25,480
Speaker 1: Am I want to go back to the drawing board

1076
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:28,000
Speaker 1: of that one. Yeah, I know, well that's where that's

1077
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:33,120
Speaker 1: where Australian mate out there in Australian Land. Yes, I'm aware.

1078
00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:36,880
Speaker 1: Thank you. Stick to the Boston accident, Charlie. It's what

1079
00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:41,280
Speaker 1: you're good at. It's okay, okay. I got a couple

1080
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:44,719
Speaker 1: of things. One thing is its Fatrick is played in

1081
00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:49,759
Speaker 1: MetLife Stadium. Yeah, you knows the wind played in that

1082
00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:52,560
Speaker 1: atmosphere before, so that I don't think that's going to

1083
00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:56,200
Speaker 1: affect him. The thing with its Fatrick is he's streaking. Yeah,

1084
00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:59,319
Speaker 1: he gets if he gets on the street, he can

1085
00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:03,120
Speaker 1: hit fourteen in a row. He gets a momentum going.

1086
00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:05,839
Speaker 1: And he also can do this, he can run out

1087
00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:09,239
Speaker 1: of the pocket. He can make a play. And you know,

1088
00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:12,439
Speaker 1: that's what I'm most worried about. That we can't let

1089
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:15,080
Speaker 1: this guy get on a street because if he doesn't

1090
00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:16,960
Speaker 1: get on a street, then he's going to be a

1091
00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:20,319
Speaker 1: bum the whole game basically. So we gotta do it

1092
00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:25,000
Speaker 1: quick and fast because the last game his completion rate

1093
00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:29,320
Speaker 1: was like and uh, you know, so we got to

1094
00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:32,520
Speaker 1: be aware of that thing that quick. I want you

1095
00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:34,640
Speaker 1: to listen very carefully because I'm about to say something

1096
00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:36,759
Speaker 1: that I think Paul and I agree with and we

1097
00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:38,120
Speaker 1: don't say it often to you, So I want you

1098
00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:44,040
Speaker 1: to focus. You're absolutely right now you can continue bock

1099
00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:47,319
Speaker 1: this down. You left out the street that says he

1100
00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:51,279
Speaker 1: can also throw three picks at a quarter exactly. That's

1101
00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:55,120
Speaker 1: the That's the Fitzpatrick I hope is playing this Sunday.

1102
00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:57,040
Speaker 1: And the other thing I brought it up to h

1103
00:55:57,640 --> 00:56:02,279
Speaker 1: to Jeff and Lance yesterday is I don't understand why

1104
00:56:02,440 --> 00:56:07,000
Speaker 1: they're putting Collins on a linebacker when his best skill

1105
00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:12,120
Speaker 1: set is being in the box and tackling, and Riley's

1106
00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:14,960
Speaker 1: best skill set he's a cover guy. He was a

1107
00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:19,160
Speaker 1: cornerback and he can't tackle. Why don't you put Riley

1108
00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:22,279
Speaker 1: on the tight end, Charlie. Here's the trick. Here's the trick.

1109
00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:25,680
Speaker 1: If you're playing in the box as a box safety

1110
00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:28,919
Speaker 1: and the team passes the ball, you have to play

1111
00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:30,680
Speaker 1: man on man on the tight end. Is you're at

1112
00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:34,600
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage, who else is he gonna cover? No,

1113
00:56:34,719 --> 00:56:37,640
Speaker 1: but I'm saying they should make Riley. You know, bet

1114
00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:41,080
Speaker 1: youer was saying, Oh, I'm comfortable with Collins, Arlie. If

1115
00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:43,680
Speaker 1: you do that, then Riley's in the box and he

1116
00:56:43,719 --> 00:56:46,960
Speaker 1: can't tackle, and Collins is playing deep safety where you

1117
00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:49,239
Speaker 1: don't want him. So you can't have Collins in the

1118
00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:52,600
Speaker 1: box and not have him cover tight ends. Those two

1119
00:56:52,719 --> 00:56:55,600
Speaker 1: jobs are one and the same. Well, then then I

1120
00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:58,279
Speaker 1: would put Riley in the box, but make sure he

1121
00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:03,040
Speaker 1: covers tight end. You know, that's his assignment covering me

1122
00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:06,120
Speaker 1: tight end? You know. Wait a minute, Wait a minute, wait, Charlie,

1123
00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:10,880
Speaker 1: you're confusing two assignments. If Riley's in the box, okay,

1124
00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:13,719
Speaker 1: he's got to help fill a gap in run support. Yep,

1125
00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:16,320
Speaker 1: he can't cover the tight end because the tight end

1126
00:57:16,320 --> 00:57:19,480
Speaker 1: will run him out of the box, therefore lessening you

1127
00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:24,800
Speaker 1: run support. You're you're confusing to You're confusing two assignments here.

1128
00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:28,560
Speaker 1: You can't have him do both at the same time. Well, no,

1129
00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:30,840
Speaker 1: I don't want him to do both. All I want

1130
00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:34,160
Speaker 1: him to do is when they line up right, we

1131
00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:36,960
Speaker 1: need to cover a tight end, okay, Riley or the

1132
00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:40,760
Speaker 1: tight end, not call him okay, but wait and so

1133
00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:43,200
Speaker 1: so then where do you want Colins to play? I

1134
00:57:43,240 --> 00:57:46,280
Speaker 1: want Colins to be there when where Riley used to

1135
00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:48,360
Speaker 1: be when he misses the tackle. Every So you want

1136
00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:51,240
Speaker 1: to play Collins DP, so you don't have to think, Charlie,

1137
00:57:51,240 --> 00:57:53,280
Speaker 1: you don't want to play Collins deep though. The further

1138
00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:55,320
Speaker 1: you get landing Collins away from the line of scrimage,

1139
00:57:55,360 --> 00:57:58,240
Speaker 1: the less effective he is, well because the less options

1140
00:57:58,280 --> 00:58:00,680
Speaker 1: you have to use him. And that's that's not what

1141
00:58:00,720 --> 00:58:02,760
Speaker 1: you want to do, is coordinator. You want to give

1142
00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:06,680
Speaker 1: Collins the most opportunity to make a play on defense.

1143
00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:09,000
Speaker 1: And again by putting him in that position near the

1144
00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:12,600
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage, part of those responsibilities is covering the

1145
00:58:12,600 --> 00:58:16,760
Speaker 1: tight end. It goes one and one with that. Well,

1146
00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:18,880
Speaker 1: you can't do that. That's when we get in trouble.

1147
00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:24,080
Speaker 1: But see, this is why if you play a man

1148
00:58:24,120 --> 00:58:26,959
Speaker 1: and then swap to zone when you're passing guys off.

1149
00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:30,720
Speaker 1: That's why, that's why I think you would like that concept,

1150
00:58:31,080 --> 00:58:36,080
Speaker 1: because now now maybe Collins could then start out covering

1151
00:58:36,080 --> 00:58:38,600
Speaker 1: the tight end, and then as the tight end starts

1152
00:58:38,680 --> 00:58:41,240
Speaker 1: running out, now he passes him off to somebody else,

1153
00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:44,120
Speaker 1: and then Colin stays at home. Obviously, I was referencing

1154
00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:46,040
Speaker 1: when the teams in man defense, if you're in zone,

1155
00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:48,680
Speaker 1: obviously he's not covering the tight end man on man obviously.

1156
00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:51,400
Speaker 1: I mean, look here, here's here, here's the thing I

1157
00:58:51,480 --> 00:58:55,240
Speaker 1: want you to remember too, Riley. All right, in addition

1158
00:58:55,320 --> 00:59:00,040
Speaker 1: to not being a very sound tackler, Okay, they're in

1159
00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:02,120
Speaker 1: a number of times this year when he's been back

1160
00:59:02,120 --> 00:59:04,880
Speaker 1: there and he hasn't provided the the support that he

1161
00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:10,080
Speaker 1: was supposed to to the corners rough angles. Yes, so

1162
00:59:10,080 --> 00:59:13,520
Speaker 1: so right now, I hate to say this, but I

1163
00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:17,120
Speaker 1: don't know where my confidence lies in terms of what

1164
00:59:17,240 --> 00:59:20,520
Speaker 1: I would ask him to do and then have a

1165
00:59:20,560 --> 00:59:22,760
Speaker 1: tremendous amount of belief that he's going to be able

1166
00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:25,720
Speaker 1: to take care of it. He's he's a very to me,

1167
00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:28,600
Speaker 1: He's he's a shaky player. Right now. I don't know

1168
00:59:28,640 --> 00:59:33,760
Speaker 1: what I can count I don't think if don't you

1169
00:59:33,800 --> 00:59:37,760
Speaker 1: think his skills are better covering than they are tackling,

1170
00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:40,800
Speaker 1: And don't you think collin skills is better tackling and

1171
00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:44,360
Speaker 1: not covering. Well that's what I'm trying logically, Yes, yes,

1172
00:59:44,520 --> 00:59:47,840
Speaker 1: But the truth is, for all of Riley's coverage ability

1173
00:59:47,840 --> 00:59:50,600
Speaker 1: as a guy who's played corner in this league, there

1174
00:59:50,600 --> 00:59:53,160
Speaker 1: have been too many times in the backfield. John just

1175
00:59:53,200 --> 00:59:56,400
Speaker 1: said it. He has taken bad angles and for a

1176
00:59:56,440 --> 00:59:59,480
Speaker 1: guy who's got coverage ability and who has played corner before,

1177
01:00:00,160 --> 01:00:03,640
Speaker 1: should not be Yeah, well I know, but the thing

1178
01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:06,080
Speaker 1: is usually is bad angles is when he's trying to

1179
01:00:06,120 --> 01:00:09,760
Speaker 1: tackle somebody. When he takes bad angles on the ball

1180
01:00:09,840 --> 01:00:12,320
Speaker 1: in flight as well. Both. Yeah, Hey, Charlie, give me

1181
01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:14,280
Speaker 1: give me a favor. I heard your phone again. I

1182
01:00:14,320 --> 01:00:16,200
Speaker 1: think that's your super pack trying to get you set up.

1183
01:00:17,120 --> 01:00:18,840
Speaker 1: So why don't you take that call and we'll talk

1184
01:00:19,120 --> 01:00:21,280
Speaker 1: next week? All right, Hey, I'll keep you posted on

1185
01:00:21,360 --> 01:00:24,240
Speaker 1: my campaign. You sure that's not will be looking for

1186
01:00:24,280 --> 01:00:28,040
Speaker 1: a job Mr Illness in See it's Charlie. Thank you,

1187
01:00:28,080 --> 01:00:32,200
Speaker 1: trying appreciate the call. His big campaign focus, of course,

1188
01:00:32,200 --> 01:00:34,520
Speaker 1: beyond mental health. You want to remind you that Big

1189
01:00:34,760 --> 01:00:37,200
Speaker 1: Kickoff Live is presented by Coors Light now though the

1190
01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:40,120
Speaker 1: Cores Light rewards after it a basic Giants prizes throughout

1191
01:00:40,120 --> 01:00:43,600
Speaker 1: the season. Sorry, Paul, no, no, justin Shinning Off. As

1192
01:00:43,640 --> 01:00:45,600
Speaker 1: we wrap up that phone call, we had a call

1193
01:00:45,680 --> 01:00:47,000
Speaker 1: the other day on the show You Want to Hear.

1194
01:00:47,120 --> 01:00:50,840
Speaker 1: John Guy asked, well, why why didn't they keep Adams, who, now,

1195
01:00:50,880 --> 01:00:52,680
Speaker 1: by the way, happens to be playing for the Buccaneers

1196
01:00:52,680 --> 01:00:55,480
Speaker 1: and barely playing, and and and the only thing we

1197
01:00:55,520 --> 01:00:58,840
Speaker 1: could tell him was that that Adams was another strong

1198
01:00:58,920 --> 01:01:01,640
Speaker 1: in the box safety and he played land in Collins

1199
01:01:01,640 --> 01:01:04,680
Speaker 1: position when he was at his best. Correct, Well, therefore,

1200
01:01:05,160 --> 01:01:07,640
Speaker 1: you don't pair him with Collins because now you're gonna

1201
01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:09,760
Speaker 1: be slow a foot and to do the kinds of

1202
01:01:09,840 --> 01:01:11,720
Speaker 1: things that Betty wants to do in his scheme with

1203
01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:15,160
Speaker 1: that opposite safety. Adams really physically did not have the

1204
01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:18,760
Speaker 1: tools that that applied. That doesn't mean he's not an

1205
01:01:18,840 --> 01:01:21,480
Speaker 1: NFL caliber player. We certainly know that he can play

1206
01:01:21,520 --> 01:01:23,360
Speaker 1: in this league. There's no question about that. I think

1207
01:01:23,360 --> 01:01:25,000
Speaker 1: both of us had him, both of us had him

1208
01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:27,439
Speaker 1: on our fifty three, right, Yeah, I'm not saying and

1209
01:01:27,440 --> 01:01:31,000
Speaker 1: and quite frankly, you know I thought that Darian Thompson

1210
01:01:31,080 --> 01:01:33,080
Speaker 1: was gonna work out and he went in the wrong direction.

1211
01:01:33,480 --> 01:01:35,520
Speaker 1: It just didn't happen for another guy that prompt tackling

1212
01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:39,960
Speaker 1: he did, he did, and you know, so Curtis Riley

1213
01:01:39,960 --> 01:01:42,840
Speaker 1: wound up wining the spot. Now, I would think that

1214
01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:45,160
Speaker 1: Giant's gonna try to upgrade that spot during the off season.

1215
01:01:45,200 --> 01:01:46,840
Speaker 1: I'd be very surprised if they didn't. I feel like

1216
01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:49,360
Speaker 1: Riley won that spot because of what he was doing

1217
01:01:49,400 --> 01:01:51,920
Speaker 1: pre snap, almost as much or more as what he

1218
01:01:51,960 --> 01:01:54,840
Speaker 1: was doing post He would line people up well, he

1219
01:01:54,840 --> 01:01:57,200
Speaker 1: would be in the right spot at the right time snap.

1220
01:01:57,240 --> 01:02:00,280
Speaker 1: But there's no question once guystar moving that when it

1221
01:02:00,280 --> 01:02:01,880
Speaker 1: gets tough, and I think that's when he's had some

1222
01:02:01,920 --> 01:02:04,080
Speaker 1: of his issues this year. So they didn't really have

1223
01:02:04,440 --> 01:02:10,880
Speaker 1: a bona fide guaranteed free safety producer because Adams was

1224
01:02:10,920 --> 01:02:14,160
Speaker 1: a strong safety, Riley was a converted corner, and Thompson

1225
01:02:14,240 --> 01:02:16,840
Speaker 1: was a free safety who was actually very quiet last

1226
01:02:16,880 --> 01:02:20,280
Speaker 1: year in terms of production. So the choices there. William

1227
01:02:20,320 --> 01:02:23,600
Speaker 1: Gay even tried to play some free safety during Camp

1228
01:02:23,680 --> 01:02:26,200
Speaker 1: John and that didn't work out. The year old, five

1229
01:02:26,320 --> 01:02:29,360
Speaker 1: or six different guys into the spot. They tried no

1230
01:02:29,400 --> 01:02:32,280
Speaker 1: one stepped up and took the job. And then Lance's

1231
01:02:32,280 --> 01:02:34,880
Speaker 1: guy Michael Thomas is also a strong safety more than

1232
01:02:34,920 --> 01:02:38,520
Speaker 1: a free safety. So what do you do? Gut feeling

1233
01:02:38,560 --> 01:02:42,320
Speaker 1: for Sunday? I like the Giants. I really do. Give

1234
01:02:42,360 --> 01:02:45,920
Speaker 1: me a score, raw, I'm gonna go. Um, I'm gonna

1235
01:02:45,960 --> 01:02:53,320
Speaker 1: go thirty one twenty three Giants. I'm back and forth. Um.

1236
01:02:53,360 --> 01:02:56,840
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be something like thirty one somewhere

1237
01:02:56,880 --> 01:02:58,800
Speaker 1: in that area. I think it's gonna be over sixty

1238
01:02:58,840 --> 01:03:08,160
Speaker 1: points scored in the game. Now, what the heck? Giants one?

1239
01:03:08,200 --> 01:03:11,160
Speaker 1: How about that they take four field goals. I'd like

1240
01:03:11,240 --> 01:03:13,320
Speaker 1: it to be a little bit more spread out than

1241
01:03:13,360 --> 01:03:16,640
Speaker 1: that so that I don't have to have a stomach problem. Oh.

1242
01:03:16,760 --> 01:03:19,280
Speaker 1: I like watching Paul get hodget It's fun. He comes

1243
01:03:19,320 --> 01:03:21,600
Speaker 1: up after the game, his shoulders are drooped and he's like,

1244
01:03:22,080 --> 01:03:25,320
Speaker 1: John will feel good. It's not good. It's not good.

1245
01:03:25,960 --> 01:03:28,800
Speaker 1: It's not Thank you, Paul, say goodbye. We'll see you

1246
01:03:28,840 --> 01:03:31,400
Speaker 1: on Monday. Enjoying the game on Sunday, everybody, Audios