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Speaker 1: Here are your hosts, Bo Bishop and Nathan Zegura.

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Speaker 2: Allright, let's just live on a Tuesday initiative, Cleeland Browns Daily.

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Speaker 2: I am merely Bo. He is the great Z and

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Speaker 2: on this fine day we have the privilege of broadcasting

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Speaker 2: from Tap Sports Bar here at MGM Northfield Park. Will

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Speaker 2: be here until five. Must be twenty one or over

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Speaker 2: to enter. You can stop by me former Browns wide

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Speaker 3: It's good to say you, buddy, good to see you.

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Speaker 3: I am living well.

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Speaker 4: I was.

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Speaker 5: I'm so mad at myself because I was last night.

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Speaker 3: I said, you know, going as we ended the show,

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Speaker 3: I said, who in the world would bet on the

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Speaker 3: Raiders because it's because obviously they're gonna get smoked? And

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Speaker 3: then they just did that. It was one of those

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Speaker 3: where it was just absolutely that easy. By the way,

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Speaker 3: I'm excited because I think I have a legitimate chance

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Speaker 3: to be in person to witness history on Sunday.

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Speaker 2: I think might be right. Now, what does he need

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Speaker 2: to get.

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Speaker 5: Miles? I think you could get ten? I mean, did

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Speaker 5: you did you watch the game?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I mean I had basketball practice. Yeah, I pretty much

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Speaker 2: watched all it because I was home by eight, so

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Speaker 2: I had it on and I watched. I watched most

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Speaker 3: Their first thirty four plays, Yeah, we're thirty one passes,

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Speaker 3: two runs by Agent and one run by Moster.

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Speaker 5: If they do that against US, oh, Miles could get ten.

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Speaker 4: Sex.

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Speaker 3: This game has been set the record for the most

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Speaker 3: sad in a game by one team. Pot sacks by

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Speaker 3: in a game period.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because Max Crosby was was all over it on

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Speaker 2: the Raiders.

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Speaker 5: See it was going to take some sacks most likely.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, which is fine, but I am I think good

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Speaker 3: still witness some real history.

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Speaker 2: I wonder what the NFL record for sacks between two

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Speaker 2: teams in a single game is. It have to be

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Speaker 2: that Derek Thomas game, I would think, because he had

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna find out what it is by a team

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Speaker 5: and then by.

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Speaker 2: A Yeah, I'd be very curious to know what that was, because, yeah,

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Speaker 2: you know, it's interesting. You watched that game last night.

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Speaker 3: Fourteen sacks is the record Eagles Giants October twenty sixth,

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Speaker 3: nineteen fifty two. Oh geezus seven times a team's twelve

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Speaker 3: eric twelve sacks in a game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was, I tell you. You watch it from

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Speaker 2: the Dallas perspective, and they're four five and one like that.

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Speaker 2: They're not going to be a team of consequence this year.

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Speaker 2: But you can see, like if you're Jarrah and you're

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Speaker 2: sitting there with two first round picks and you didn't

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Speaker 2: have to pay Parsons, so now you can keep Pickens

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Speaker 2: pretty easily. You get Wilkins in the deal from the Jets,

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Speaker 2: and he was great or not Wilkins? Yeah, Quinn Williams. Sorry, sorry, sorry, Quinn, Yeah, Quinn,

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Speaker 2: Quinn Williams stockers, Quentinn Williams. Get Williams in the deal

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Speaker 2: for the Jets. Clark got after the quarterback too, he

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Speaker 2: two ones. Now you get Pickens locked up. You have

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Speaker 2: an unbelievable pass protection blow up of a blitzer. That

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Speaker 5: That was my guy.

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Speaker 2: I'm so happy we talked about him all those years ago. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and he finally got healthy and now he's looking good.

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Speaker 2: But you look at them like and you go, okay,

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Speaker 2: this he might be onto something here. Dak looked great.

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Speaker 2: The receivers are great. He's going to get two first

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Speaker 5: I agree.

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Speaker 3: I also like the fact that I'm pretty sure Jerry

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Speaker 5: This is did you see this? No, oh, so this

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Speaker 3: Bryant tweets this out last night. Okay, after picking Pickens

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Speaker 5: AJ Brown is clearly taking a step back.

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Speaker 2: Right now, very much.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and you got obviously chasin Higgins, but I think

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Speaker 3: they're they're right there, right there if they're not performing

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Speaker 3: as the best this year. Here's what Des Bryant says,

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Speaker 3: and I quote George Pickens, I want you to understand

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Speaker 3: that whenever it's time to negotiate your new contract, your

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Speaker 3: legacy will be worth more than being the highest paid

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Speaker 5: There's a lot more to the thought process. But think

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Speaker 3: If I were Jerry, I would then he goes and

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Speaker 3: the rush young. I played with guys who passed their

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Speaker 3: due date and didn't love the game. Respectfully, my thoughts

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Speaker 3: while watching the Cowboys the Raiders game. But basically it

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Speaker 3: is hitting Pickens with basically the same pitch that once

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Speaker 3: and I like that he's out there doing it. I

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Speaker 3: think it would be fun for them to keep that

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they do. And it was an aesthetically pleasing game

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Speaker 2: on Sunday. But my guess is there's gonna be a

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of Cowboys fans in there last night.

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Speaker 2: And so you have this thing that's an attraction in

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Speaker 2: it there is anyway, be curious to know, like where

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Speaker 2: I just am curious what the thought process was with

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Speaker 2: to your point, they ended to him twice.

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Speaker 3: They had fifty drop packs in this game and six runs.

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Speaker 3: I don't fifty drop backs.

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Speaker 2: That was Chip Kelly, who got six million bucks, who

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Speaker 5: It's crazy. It's crazy.

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Speaker 2: They don't have anything of them bowers that scares you

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Speaker 2: on the outside, Like it's just I don't understand absolutely nothing.

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Speaker 2: I don't understand the thought process of Pete. I don't

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Speaker 2: get Gino. I don't understand the chip one. I get

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Speaker 2: I don't think they're paying him that to throw it

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it just was a very It's that the whole

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Speaker 3: It's it's I think it's working in the sense that

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Speaker 3: it is every team because we've been there.

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Speaker 5: We were there two.

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Speaker 2: Years ago, right, but that now we're all these years

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Speaker 5: Well, that's what it is. I think I think it

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Speaker 3: They still have the Raiders still have a very passionate

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Speaker 3: The Raiders are still culturally linked to a lot of

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Speaker 3: So I think I think that they still So you

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Speaker 3: This is very It's much more tame than that. But

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Speaker 3: there are still there are intense Raiders fans. I just

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Speaker 3: you were a legend. But you know, the tailgates were

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Speaker 5: Like this was on our way to the on our

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Speaker 3: He was with no regard for I mean, he came

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, for sure.

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Speaker 3: And he just came whipping out of from the side,

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Speaker 5: He made it, Thank goodness.

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Speaker 6: There was a good crowd last year. But remember, like

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Speaker 2: How did I not have any idea that that W

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Speaker 2: Like there was no promotion of it, right, so I

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Speaker 4: College, which I was.

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Speaker 5: Obviously didn't stop him, no, did it.

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Speaker 2: But it was just so. I just it was interesting

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Speaker 2: because when they just talk it's great, yes about this

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Speaker 3: When they said, oh, you know you famously prepared for

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Speaker 4: Craziest thing you did in the White House? Yeah, you

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there was and he was great. He was really good.

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Speaker 5: He was good, the most fun.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was just a good time that that part

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Speaker 2: news here, kids, major Madden announcement just dropping and so

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Speaker 2: here are the details on it. The Thanksgiving season EA

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Speaker 2: Sports Madden twenty six celebrates John Madden Week. This year's

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Speaker 2: reveal introduces two rosters coming to Madden twenty six. The

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Speaker 2: All Madden Legends team, so the icons from the past

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Speaker 2: to define toughness, grit, genuine love of the game. And

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Speaker 2: then the NFL Superstars Team, today's elite players who carry

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Speaker 2: the All Mad spirit onto the field, a chance to

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Speaker 2: relieve history, so forth, and so on. All time greats

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Speaker 2: gets contemporary Superstars, so forth, and so on the All

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Speaker 2: Madden Legends roster. That's right, is a gentleman who I

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Speaker 2: saw today on his social media who had a chainsaw

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Speaker 3: Dwayne Johnson. There's a new Sheriff's down.

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Speaker 2: Why can't he be? Why can't do he can't do Commando?

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Speaker 3: He should have been in the New Running Man. I

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Speaker 2: And then Miles made the NFL Superstars team as it

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Speaker 2: would which is would do that?

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Speaker 3: Yes, ay, Lee former Brown is the punter. Yes, I'm

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Speaker 3: actually very surprised that it's not like Ray Guy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, me too. This will all drop tomorrow. There's

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Speaker 2: the celebration to life inside Madden twenty six. So there

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Speaker 3: Chucky Wood Brown's owner Charles Woods, Right, what all men legends,

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Speaker 3: roster banning and l way.

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Speaker 2: I don't understand. No, if Okay, Joe or Tom, let's

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Speaker 2: make some we're gonna make There had to be there

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Speaker 2: a reason that that Tom and Joe weren't on it.

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Speaker 2: Peyton is the greatest radar season quarterback in NFL history.

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Speaker 2: That's so I'm fine with him being on it. But

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Speaker 2: it should have been Joe and Tom should have been. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that should have been there. He's third behind those two. Yep,

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Speaker 2: all right, running back, but they got Ladani and Eddie George. No, Now,

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Speaker 4: They like that.

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Speaker 3: Ladanian is fine, but Barry Sanders is always when they

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Speaker 3: do an All mad and he is always, always, always.

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Speaker 3: Mike Alstott is perfect, no notes there. If you wanted

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Speaker 2: He was sneaky right there with Boyes right there, right

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Speaker 5: He's been a mad and cover guy.

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Speaker 2: That's fine with me. I don't have any problem with

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Speaker 3: Like, yeah, Calvi, yeah, probably don't those four. I think

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Speaker 3: those four are all they're all gold jackets, yep.

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Speaker 5: Yep, tight ends, Tony Gonzalez, Gronk.

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Speaker 3: no notes the hoff It's interest. I knew Bruce Matthews

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Speaker 2: He'll be edges.

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Speaker 3: I'm surprised how few we got JJ Watt, Howie Long,

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Speaker 2: Those are all gold Jackets.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I just think you can add I mean,

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Speaker 5: Fridge I knew would be on there.

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Speaker 3: But this one, this one, if you're going again on

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Speaker 5: Me and Joe Green as a.

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Speaker 3: Defensive tackles always Yeah, one of his one of the

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Speaker 2: Is a Deacon Jones ever in the mix, so he

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Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Woodson, if you would s, John Taylor, Dawkins, Attwater,

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Speaker 3: those are always in it. Ye, Summer all is amazing.

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Speaker 3: Andy Lee the Kicker. I'm surprised it's not either ray

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Speaker 3: Guy or Leckler.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Lecler also Raider. Yeah, and then Devin Hester.

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Speaker 2: Yeah for sure. Deep look at Bake making the Superstars

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Speaker 2: quarterback list with Alan Jackson and Mahomes. They must have

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Speaker 2: decided this after September. Where's Joe, Where's where's Joe Burrow.

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Speaker 4: Let's go over Superstars in a few minutes because.

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Speaker 2: They oh yeah, we got yeah, we got a rice

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Speaker 2: Cleveland Browns. Keep it Twisted, Cleveland. Well, buddy, this one

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Speaker 2: had it all. It was an all time defensive performance.

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Speaker 2: Ten tackles for loss, a bunch of sacks, miles at

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Speaker 2: a boatlet of them. You had a pick six, you

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Speaker 2: had two interceptions, you had everything that kind of happened

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Speaker 2: your way and then you don't get the result, but

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Speaker 2: you did get to see Schdor Sanders for a half.

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Speaker 2: What was kind of your takeaway from Sunday.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I totally agree with you. The defense was just spectacular.

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Speaker 8: To have that many sacks for three turnovers really limit

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Speaker 8: Lamar Jackson. I mean, his his staff were amazing when

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Speaker 8: you actually look at it, I mean one hundred and

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Speaker 8: you know, I think, what he only had ten yards

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Speaker 8: of rushing, two interceptions. I mean, the defense did their job.

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Speaker 8: I thought special teams for the most part. You know,

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Speaker 8: it's fine, It's just it's just frustrating just because we're

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Speaker 8: still not getting any offense of you know, you know,

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Speaker 8: jump start from the offense to really get.

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Speaker 9: Some momentum and keep the defense on the on on

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Speaker 9: the sideline.

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Speaker 7: To get him some ress.

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Speaker 8: So I mean, it's it's pretty obvious defense had a wonderful,

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Speaker 8: awesome game.

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Speaker 9: It's just still an offense that that isn't a little

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Speaker 9: bit of.

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Speaker 3: Turmoil and the story kind of as you said, Sed,

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Speaker 3: it's a game we've seen before, a result we've seen before,

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Speaker 3: but in the sense it was different because we saw

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Speaker 3: the debut of Shador Sanders what did you make of

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Speaker 3: Shador Sanders' debut four A sixteen.

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Speaker 5: Unfortunately throws the pick, but.

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Speaker 3: A couple plays maybe we're a little bit close there

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Speaker 3: to tie it up at the end.

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Speaker 9: It was a it was a tough outing.

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Speaker 8: There's there's no doubt, you know, the thing about Sugar

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Speaker 8: Sanders and I think there was a lot of discussion

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Speaker 8: in the you know, in the media and you know,

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Speaker 8: people talking about, you know, why wasn't he getting first

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Speaker 8: team reps? That doesn't always happen in the National Football League.

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Speaker 8: Training camp is really designed for were you know, first

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Speaker 8: team and trying to figure out the quarterback and getting

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Speaker 8: some first team reps.

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Speaker 2: But when you have a rookie.

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Speaker 8: Quarterback that is thrown in, like Dylan Gabriel, they're going

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Speaker 8: to try to get him up to game speed and

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Speaker 8: get him comfortable as much as possible. There's only a

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Speaker 8: certain amount of reps in practice to really do that.

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Speaker 8: So what the realistic part of it. It's not uncommon

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Speaker 8: for a backup not to get you know, first team

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Speaker 8: reps in practice, so you know, you know, I think

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Speaker 8: some of the confusion with him saying this is the

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Speaker 8: first time I've ever thrown to.

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Speaker 4: Jerry Judy Live.

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Speaker 2: Really, I don't.

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Speaker 9: Take that as a knock on the coaching staff. I

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Speaker 9: took that.

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Speaker 8: More of just it's facts I got thrown in there.

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Speaker 8: It's the first time I'll get better with more reps

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Speaker 8: in practice. You know, I got a little experience, But

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Speaker 8: no doubt, guys, it was it was a It was

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Speaker 8: a tough outing for him. And I got to imagine

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Speaker 8: with the weeks of a week of practice going in

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Speaker 8: a dome, you know, good weather on a turf. I

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Speaker 8: got to think we'll see a little bit better shooter.

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Speaker 2: In the next game against a bad defense. Will help too,

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Speaker 2: because if you watched Monday Night Football last night, there's

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Speaker 2: a lot to be had on this Raiders defense. Although

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Speaker 2: Max Crosby's going to get after you, Dave, if you're

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Speaker 2: Kevin Sefanski, Tommy Reese, and in fact, if it is

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Speaker 2: in fact Shaudur this Sunday in Las Vegas, what would

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Speaker 2: you how would you build the offense for him to

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Speaker 2: have success?

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Speaker 8: But you have to go back to why you drafted him, right,

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Speaker 8: I mean, there was a reason why in the fifth

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Speaker 8: round they drafted They saw something on tape in college

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Speaker 8: that enabled him to say, you know, what it's worth

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Speaker 8: taking a pick on him, Let's see if we can

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Speaker 8: develop them, let's work him in our system. But really

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Speaker 8: you have to go back to what he's comfortable with.

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Speaker 8: I mean, I think Shaudur Sanders type quarterback, he likes

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Speaker 8: to throw the ball down field.

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Speaker 4: That's his game.

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Speaker 8: He likes to get back in the pocket. I think

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Speaker 8: it's very, very important with someone like Shadar Sanders that

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Speaker 8: you set up the running game. You can't have him

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Speaker 8: go out and throw the ball forty fifty times in

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Speaker 8: a game. You got to be able to have that

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Speaker 8: balance to get him get the defense the second guess

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Speaker 8: what you're going to be running to give him some

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Speaker 8: time to get that ball vertical down the field. But

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Speaker 8: at the same time, we saw some of the things

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Speaker 8: in that game that we saw in preseason, right. We

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Speaker 8: saw him you know, hold onto the ball a little bit,

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Speaker 8: you know, kind of go back into you know, getting

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Speaker 8: negative yards and then not be able to get outside.

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Speaker 8: We saw the you know, the pass outside that they

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Speaker 8: got a penalty down. So those are things on tape

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Speaker 8: that you will learn from and those that's part of

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Speaker 8: being a rookie. But unfortunately, i mean fortunately, if he

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Speaker 8: gets the opportunity, he'll be able to go out and

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Speaker 8: try to learn from that, and and and and try to,

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Speaker 8: you know, try to have a little bit of a

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Speaker 8: better game this next weekend.

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Speaker 3: What do you want to see Tommy Reese do, Because

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Speaker 3: it sounds like he is going to start in Las Vegas,

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Speaker 3: he will have a full week to get prepared for

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Speaker 3: that game. What do you want to see Tommy Reese

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Speaker 3: do for him in particular to maybe make things a

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Speaker 3: little bit easier for Shador Sanders.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, this is just my personal opinion, but I don't

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Speaker 8: think we can We can get stuck with the run

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Speaker 8: run pass sequence, right, Yeah, you get run run your

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Speaker 8: third and seven, third and eight. These these defenses are

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Speaker 8: going to bring the high They saw what happened on film.

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Speaker 8: That's a rookie quarterback, that's his tendency. They're gonna say, hey,

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Speaker 8: we've worked with Baltimore. We're gonna replicate that. So I

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Speaker 8: would like to see maybe some first down passing, maybe

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Speaker 8: some second down, just mix up that cadence so it's

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Speaker 8: not third and long and then the defense knows exactly

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Speaker 8: what we're going to be trying to do. So I

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Speaker 8: did like some of the things on that speed motion

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Speaker 8: handoff of Corley. I think they did it a couple

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Speaker 8: of times, just some different things to try to get

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Speaker 8: different guys involved instead of just kind of running that.

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Speaker 8: Hey junkins the right jungs up. Now we're third and nine,

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Speaker 8: we've got to pass the ball. I do think that

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Speaker 8: will help. So we'll see if we'll see what happens.

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Speaker 8: But I just think we can't get stuck in that

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Speaker 8: run run pass sequence.

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Speaker 2: From the uncertain we're not sure exactly what it looks

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Speaker 2: like to something that has now become certain. Dave, what

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Speaker 2: is it? What is it for you? Someone who played

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Speaker 2: in this league and knows how hard it is to

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Speaker 2: see somebody like Miles Garrett dominate the way that he

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Speaker 2: has the last three I mean really for the last

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Speaker 2: several years. But I mean this stretch he's on right

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Speaker 2: now is really an all time heater. He has now

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Speaker 2: twenty two tackles for loss on the season. He led

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Speaker 2: the league with twenty two last year. He's got fifteen sacks. Buddy,

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Speaker 2: we got seven games left.

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Speaker 8: I yeah, it's something else. I mean, we're witnessing history.

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Speaker 8: I mean I saw some comparisons online with him and

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Speaker 8: what Lawrence Taylor. Did you know in many facts in

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Speaker 8: the season, he's in that elite, elite category. And when

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Speaker 8: you look at guys like Miles Garrett, they talk about

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Speaker 8: in the media and they talk about him having discussions

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Speaker 8: with ownership about being a better leader. Right, all he

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Speaker 8: can do now is lead that defense to say, hey, guys,

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Speaker 8: we can only control what we can control. Let's keep

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Speaker 8: setting this standard. This example, so teams are afraid. You know,

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Speaker 8: they come out and they know they got a problem

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Speaker 8: running and throwing the ball against us. Over time, the

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Speaker 8: goal is for the offense to start clicking, get some comfort.

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Speaker 8: The problem with that, guys, is you now have left

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Speaker 8: tackles that are injured again. And this is going back

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Speaker 8: all the way to the Flacco Houston playoff game where

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Speaker 8: we had we had we had issues and injuries, and

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Speaker 8: when you have injuries in the offensive line, it only

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Speaker 8: adds to some of these problems. So your goal is

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Speaker 8: a defense and as a leader to say, guys, it

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Speaker 8: doesn't matter what we have to do. We get paid

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Speaker 8: money to be a professional.

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Speaker 10: This is our job.

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Speaker 2: We got to go.

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Speaker 8: Outside and do that every single Sunday because that's what

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Speaker 8: we're paid to do.

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Speaker 3: Did it bring a smile to your face to see

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Speaker 3: Corey Bojorkz hit one of those high spinners up into

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Speaker 3: the the wins, the swirling wins at Huntington bank Field

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Speaker 3: that led to a turnover and points for the Cleveland Browns.

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Speaker 9: It's funny you bring that up.

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Speaker 8: I had breakfast today with longtime former special teams coach Kevin.

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Speaker 9: Spencer of the Steelers and then he coached me and

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Speaker 9: the Cardinals.

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Speaker 8: He lives in west Lake and him and I were

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Speaker 8: having having some coffee this morning and we were just

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Speaker 8: talking about special teams and talking about the impact punters

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Speaker 8: can have. So when you see that, and you know,

660
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Speaker 8: I remember days like that, and alls you care about

661
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Speaker 8: is helping helping the team. You know, there is a

662
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Speaker 8: punter you only got five, six, maybe seven punts the game.

663
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Speaker 8: If you can pin a deep slip peel and position

664
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Speaker 8: cause a turnover, you're just happy for the team because

665
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Speaker 8: you did. You did something small to help us possibly

666
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Speaker 8: get points or or turn something into a safety. And

667
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Speaker 8: so I always celebrate on that because you know, we

668
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Speaker 8: never want our names to get mentioned. We want you know,

669
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Speaker 8: it's like a long snapper. If nobody knows the long snapper,

670
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Speaker 8: the punter, it means you're usually.

671
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Speaker 4: Doing your job. Dave.

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Speaker 2: On the one that we actually challenged it and it was

673
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Speaker 2: called a touchback, can you explain how you make a

674
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Speaker 2: ball do what Corey made a ball do on that?

675
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Speaker 2: And honestly, if our guy doesn't touch it, it feels

676
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Speaker 2: like it's just gonna roll dead at like the half

677
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Speaker 2: yard line. How does that happen? And then how sick

678
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Speaker 2: are you if you're Corey because you did it as

679
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Speaker 2: perfectly as you can do it, And unfortunately it's just players,

680
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Speaker 2: you know, they want to get it down like and

681
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Speaker 2: I don't know what they're worried about, but they are.

682
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Speaker 2: It's just instinctually to go get it and it ended

683
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Speaker 2: up being a touchback.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: The thing about punting is you do something over and

686
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Speaker 8: over and it's just muscle memory. Right, Like you get

687
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Speaker 8: on the forty to the forty five or the fifty,

688
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Speaker 8: you hit that punt that you know seventy percent of

689
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Speaker 8: times is going to do what you hope it can do. Now,

690
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Speaker 8: sometimes you just get unbelievable lucky roles and the ball bounces,

691
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 8: the turf could be soft because of the rain, you

692
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 8: know whatever, and it just runs across the sideline. You

693
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Speaker 8: hope it goes out of bounce and nobody touches it,

694
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Speaker 8: but you know, it's a it's a it's a frustrating

695
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Speaker 8: position of being mostly for the special teams.

696
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Speaker 9: Goes yeah for the punter, but those guys, you.

697
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Speaker 8: Know, there is as many as few times that they're

698
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Speaker 8: going to make that play. There's countless times where they're

699
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 8: they're downing the ball and making great plays for you.

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Speaker 8: So you know, yeah, you're a team, you're a special

701
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Speaker 8: team's unit.

702
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Speaker 9: You go over, pat him on the back.

703
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Speaker 8: It's a learning lesson, but man, is it frustrating to

704
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Speaker 8: see that when you watch the NFL guys getting overly

705
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Speaker 8: aggressive when it's clear the.

706
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Speaker 9: Fall is not going to go in the other zone,

707
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Speaker 9: but they want to down it. And it's just it's

708
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Speaker 9: just it.

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Speaker 8: It's like a it's like a it's like a push

710
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Speaker 8: in the back on a punt return. If you see

711
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Speaker 8: his back, why are you pushing him in the back.

712
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Speaker 8: So it's just it's just learning lessons. It might be

713
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Speaker 8: a young guy, it might be in an inexperienced guy,

714
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Speaker 8: and unfortunately it's.

715
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Speaker 3: A lesson learned because that has a chance to flip

716
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Speaker 3: the game. I mean, it's I know it's twenty yards,

717
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Speaker 3: but it's inside the half yard line. Changes what they're

718
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Speaker 3: gonna do on offense, change everything you're gonna do on defense.

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Speaker 5: And yeah, that reminded me of that. You know, sometimes you.

720
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Speaker 3: See a bunt where it's rolling and they know they're

721
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Speaker 3: hoping it's gonna go out of bounds, but they know

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Speaker 3: it's going to stay in. Or do you see one

723
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Speaker 3: where it hits the where the grass and the dirt

724
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Speaker 3: meat and that pushes it out and you let it

725
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:25,480
Speaker 3: go out of it and then you touch it right there.

726
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Speaker 5: We did not need to touch that ball.

727
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Speaker 3: Donovan and Milan did such a good job getting down

728
00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 3: there getting it back in. Yeah, that was that was

729
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 3: a frustrating one. And you know he's excited. If he

730
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Speaker 3: catches it cleanly, by the way, it would have been fine.

731
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Speaker 3: Well on he bobbled it and then the toe hit

732
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Speaker 3: on the line there As this team goes forward, you

733
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Speaker 3: got to get out of this rut, right and you

734
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Speaker 3: have an opportunity. Now we were supposed to go to

735
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Speaker 3: New York and beat the Jets, and we did not

736
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Speaker 3: for a variety of reasons we talked about last week.

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Speaker 3: It feels like after watching that Raiders team last night,

738
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Speaker 3: no one, they're on a short week. Heck, if they

739
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Speaker 3: want to drop back that many times fifty times against us,

740
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Speaker 3: we might have twenty. Doesn't this feel like this is

741
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Speaker 3: one that you have to have just for the culture,

742
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Speaker 3: just for keep everybody rolling in the same direction here

743
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Speaker 3: as you kind of play out the season.

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Speaker 9: For sure.

745
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Speaker 8: And the biggest thing, Nathan is is.

746
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Speaker 9: We got to prove that we can play at a

747
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Speaker 9: high level on the road.

748
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Speaker 8: You know, that's one thing that I think over time

749
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Speaker 8: we show that at home with the crowd and all

750
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Speaker 8: that we play at a certain level. If we can

751
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Speaker 8: prove that we can go on the road and have

752
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 8: that same mindset and perform, well, yeah, anything's possible. But

753
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Speaker 8: if you look at the Baltimore Ravens game, you know,

754
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:37,560
Speaker 8: special teams had an impact, defense had a huge impact,

755
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Speaker 8: but the offense really obviously didn't do much well against

756
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 8: a good team like Baltimore that's not a role and

757
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 8: has playoff aspirations and it's you know, all pro quarterback.

758
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 9: You know, that's that's still a.

759
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Speaker 8: Tough game to overcome.

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Speaker 4: Even two out of.

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Speaker 8: Three fastest play well you play against a team like

762
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Speaker 8: Las Vegas. If you get that same type of defensive performance,

763
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Speaker 8: you get the same type of special teams performance, and

764
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Speaker 8: the offense can just you know, focus on a fifty

765
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 8: to fifty balance attack, take time off the clock. Those

766
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Speaker 8: are the teams you can beat, right And that's kind

767
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 8: of our mentality is just let's just do our job,

768
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 8: let's improve, let's not turn the ball over. And it's

769
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 8: not rocket science, but against teams like Las Vegas, that's

770
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Speaker 8: the mindset we have to have. But I think the

771
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 8: biggest thing is we have to prove that we can

772
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Speaker 8: go do it on the roads all right.

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Speaker 2: Time for the risk versus reward play the game. It's

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00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 2: brought to you by Oswald, the official risk advisors of

775
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Speaker 2: your Cleveland Browns. Unfortunately, probably the riskiest play that had

776
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:33,400
Speaker 2: the biggest reward was done by Baltimore, my fan, and

777
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Speaker 2: it involved a tight end.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 9: I emailed Gibbs on this one.

780
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Speaker 8: I said, you know, said Jason, I said, I wanted

781
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:43,239
Speaker 8: to be the Browns, but you know, I said, I

782
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:47,239
Speaker 8: can't help it. Objectively, that Mark Andrews play call was

783
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:50,440
Speaker 8: a brilliant play call. It just was you know, I

784
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 8: sat there and said, hey, with the defense, the way

785
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 8: it's playing, we might get a stop here and then boom,

786
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:58,919
Speaker 8: he reverses out. Nobody saw it coming it. You got

787
00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:00,279
Speaker 8: to sip your hat. I mean that it was just

788
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 8: so awesome play call, and it definitely was a risky call.

789
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:06,439
Speaker 8: But man, that that was a big reward, no doubt

790
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Speaker 8: about it.

791
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Speaker 3: When you watched it happen live, what was your reaction,

792
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:14,200
Speaker 3: because I was stupefied.

793
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:15,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, you just don't see it.

794
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 3: I don't even remember what I said on the broadcast,

795
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 3: but I know I said something.

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Speaker 5: I think I was just.

797
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Speaker 3: I could not He's on a fourth and one, back

798
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 3: to the defense completely. He just spins out and goes

799
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Speaker 3: thirty five yards on touch as a guy who had

800
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Speaker 3: never had a rushing touchdown, this the guy who had

801
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:33,320
Speaker 3: twenty yards twenty one yards rushing in his entire career,

802
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:37,319
Speaker 3: and it's all from sneaking and he I could not

803
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 3: believe it. And I know Todd Monkin was quite pleased

804
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 3: with himself after that one.

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00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:47,279
Speaker 8: Yeah, I'll be honest with you, I would say, as

806
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:49,799
Speaker 8: a Browns fan my whole life, obviously playing for him,

807
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 8: typically I would I would be like you, and I'd

808
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:54,160
Speaker 8: be just frustrated and being.

809
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 9: Like what, you know, what's going.

810
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:57,760
Speaker 8: The problem with that is it was such a good

811
00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:00,879
Speaker 8: play call that you almost chuckle and you just go, man,

812
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 8: that I got to fit my hat. That was just

813
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 8: that was a brilliant call. It really was, and unfortunately

814
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 8: it happened. The defense was playing outstanding all game. It

815
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 8: can't really fault him on that.

816
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:12,759
Speaker 9: But I guarantee Jim Schwartz.

817
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:14,000
Speaker 8: Going is going to go in the film room and

818
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 8: probably have a different reaction to that defense on making

819
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 8: sure we're containing to the outside, making sure we're filled.

820
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:21,600
Speaker 7: You know, he'll always have something.

821
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:24,920
Speaker 8: But man, it's hard to look at that by any

822
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 8: you know, any stretch of imagination not just go. It

823
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:28,399
Speaker 8: was a great play call.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it really was great talking to you, buddy. Happy

825
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 2: Thanksgiving to you and the family next week. You'll be

826
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Speaker 2: back with us in December, so thank you so much

827
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Speaker 2: for your time, Palm. We'll talk again soon.

828
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Speaker 8: Thanks guys, Happy Thanksgiving you guys too. Thanks for having

829
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Speaker 8: me on all.

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Speaker 11: Reggie's good to see you man, good to be here.

847
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 11: Thanks Scott for inviting me out.

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Speaker 2: Hey man, when you when you think of of your group,

849
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:52,400
Speaker 2: and it's also magical, this is it was a pretty

850
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 2: crazy last week with all the stuff that happened to

851
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:54,920
Speaker 2: your quarterback.

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00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 4: And he gets the great.

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Speaker 2: News on Sunday, getting going into pre op on Monday

854
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 2: and gets the liver transplant, and he posted a video

855
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 2: this afternoon. It's unbelievable, but it red you. I mean,

856
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:12,319
Speaker 2: it seemed like it was pretty dang dire last week

857
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 2: and a bit of a Browns miracle happened here.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 11: You know, I've been Uh, I've been with BK for

860
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 11: forty years. We were rookies together and uh, and I've

861
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 11: been around him a lot this summer, and I've watched

862
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:23,359
Speaker 11: him go through a lot of pain and a lot

863
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:27,319
Speaker 11: of stuff that has uh and been stunting his health wise,

864
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:31,400
Speaker 11: you know, all the internal bleeding. But our group stays

865
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 11: pretty firm. You know, all those guys that we played

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Speaker 11: with back in the mid eighties.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 11: There's a text line with all the linemen and a

869
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Speaker 11: bunch of us on it to keep in contact with BK.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 11: And we still have so much respect for him and

872
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:45,239
Speaker 11: the fact that he was able to get deliver. Now,

873
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 11: we hope all matches and things go well and he

874
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:49,799
Speaker 11: gets better. But he was small and it was sad

875
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 11: to see him have to go through all that. But

876
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Speaker 11: you know, in life, as when you get six is

877
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 11: in front of your age, things happen, baby, Yeah, Yeah,

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00:38:57,880 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 11: things happened.

879
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, it's certainly great, said with me.

880
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:02,920
Speaker 3: I think it was two forty nine in the morning,

881
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:04,440
Speaker 3: and I was, you know it, said, it looks like

882
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:06,440
Speaker 3: everything well, and he's like everything that I feel great.

883
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 3: You matter total, just a complete total, Bernie Texo. That's

884
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 3: good and hopefully that keeps going. When you look at

885
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 3: this team and you think about the teams that you

886
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:19,239
Speaker 3: were a part of and how hard it has been

887
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 3: of late. Now we have gone to the playoffs twice

888
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:22,760
Speaker 3: in the last five years, but that feels, for whatever reason,

889
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 3: feels far away from where we are right now. You

890
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 3: are down there every Sunday. What would it mean for

891
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:32,239
Speaker 3: to get this thing going again? And how can this

892
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:32,920
Speaker 3: team do that?

893
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 11: The thing that I see that's different from my time

894
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 11: was a very strong nucleus that stayed strong for four

895
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 11: or five, six, seven years.

896
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:45,360
Speaker 4: And I'm talking to ten of fifteen twenty guys.

897
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:47,919
Speaker 11: Back then, there was no free agency, so it wasn't

898
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 11: the whole big money grab or you know, you take

899
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 11: the big contract, or you trade guys or guys lead

900
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 11: football teams.

901
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:54,839
Speaker 4: So that we were together for a long time.

902
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:57,959
Speaker 11: So the offensive line state solid, the defensive lind state solid,

903
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:03,200
Speaker 11: the secondary always hit Frank and Felix and Hanford, Webster, Brennan, myself, Ozzie.

904
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:05,840
Speaker 11: We were here all together for five or six years,

905
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 11: and I think that's what it's gonna take. We took

906
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 11: a big swing about three or four years ago and

907
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:11,759
Speaker 11: that didn't pan out, and he lost a lot of

908
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 11: opportunities to get draft picks. Of course, no, Now, if

909
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:17,440
Speaker 11: you can get guys that can perform at a high

910
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:19,640
Speaker 11: level like what you got with these four guys that

911
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 11: you drafted this year, that is a big hit.

912
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:23,880
Speaker 4: And I think you never need more of those.

913
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 11: So hopefully whomever's doing all of the picking for the

914
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 11: players for the next couple of years, they got to

915
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:30,280
Speaker 11: be able to hit home runs.

916
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 4: That's just the fact.

917
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:36,000
Speaker 11: Because Swetzinger and the Graham kid and Jetson and Fanning,

918
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 11: those guys can play. You don't find four rookies starting

919
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 11: in the NFL and have been major productive guys on

920
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:43,359
Speaker 11: this football team.

921
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:44,719
Speaker 4: It's nice to see, Yay, you're.

922
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:47,759
Speaker 5: Leading rusher, leading receiver, leading the tackler, all of that.

923
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:49,279
Speaker 3: And I would also add and there was just a

924
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:50,480
Speaker 3: young guy that I think has a chance to be

925
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:51,879
Speaker 3: a part of this nucleus for a while. The trade

926
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:53,560
Speaker 3: that you made to bring in Tyson Campbell, who has

927
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:56,400
Speaker 3: been excellent roots since he's come to the Browns and

928
00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:58,960
Speaker 3: has he's made plays not only in the past game,

929
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 3: but in the run game. Took on Patrick Riccard in

930
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:03,920
Speaker 3: that one shut down a run, which is incredible for

931
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:04,360
Speaker 3: a corner.

932
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 5: But yeah, so I'm with you.

933
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 3: We got to get that nucleus and then listen, it's

934
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 3: an offensive league and unfortunately we're a tough watch. A

935
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 3: little bit on offense right now. You guys were a

936
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:15,239
Speaker 3: very fun watch. We got to get this passing game

937
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:16,960
Speaker 3: going and be fun.

938
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:23,280
Speaker 11: The thing that gets me is there's growth for scoring.

939
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:27,799
Speaker 11: We haven't put points on the board in a long time. Yeah,

940
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 11: I don't know if the receiver's called. I really don't

941
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:33,880
Speaker 11: like talking too harsh about some of the young guys,

942
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:35,799
Speaker 11: but I don't think the receiving court creates a lot

943
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 11: of distance. I don't think the quarterback's vision is sharp enough,

944
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:42,919
Speaker 11: nor other things take a smooth pace. You don't throwse

945
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:45,400
Speaker 11: slants and someone breaks the running, goes for sixty yards.

946
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:48,480
Speaker 11: All those things that great athletes contend to do once

947
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 11: they get the ball in their hands.

948
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:52,360
Speaker 4: We haven't seen that here and that's the unfortunate side.

949
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 11: We can run the football, we see that, but we

950
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 11: get penalties to set us back. And if you're not

951
00:41:57,080 --> 00:41:59,360
Speaker 11: going to be a very good team running the football,

952
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:01,719
Speaker 11: and you find yourself and second and along and third

953
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 11: and long, and the positions that get you out of

954
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 11: those situations aren't being their top level, then you're gonna

955
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:09,720
Speaker 11: have some problems for now and for a long run.

956
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 11: But I say this, and then I try to be

957
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:15,440
Speaker 11: too harsh. When the people that pick the players, call

958
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 11: the plays, make the decisions, and this is the best

959
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 11: you have to offer, when this is supposed to be

960
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 11: your forte, then we need to take a look at

961
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:25,839
Speaker 11: ourselves and what can we do to get better. Take

962
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:28,800
Speaker 11: any outside advice because we have to grow as an offense.

963
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:31,240
Speaker 11: You're gonna lose a lot of those linemen. They're gonna

964
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 11: drift away money out though.

965
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:35,399
Speaker 5: The only one other contracts Dwan Jones.

966
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:37,720
Speaker 11: Yes, sir, and if you haven't had a real strong

967
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:40,839
Speaker 11: line since coach Callahan left, you better get somebody back

968
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 11: in here. Your better draft three or four them if

969
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:46,000
Speaker 11: you have to. I don't care as many people that

970
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:49,880
Speaker 11: can protect the quarterback, that can run the football. And

971
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 11: then when on third down is major for scoring points.

972
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:56,359
Speaker 11: You watch any good te thirty and seven, no big deal,

973
00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 11: thirty and six, no big deal. But when you're third

974
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 11: and nine, thirty eleven, thirty twelve, it's hard.

975
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:04,080
Speaker 3: To You have to be able to pass the ball

976
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:05,919
Speaker 3: consistently when the other team knows you have to pass

977
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 3: the Yes, sir, that's what the good teams do, and

978
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 3: that's what we where we've struggled.

979
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, and thrust into action this past week, which

980
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 2: should or he gets thrust in. The injury to Dylan happens.

981
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:18,400
Speaker 2: I think we all hate that it happened. Under those circumstances.

982
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:20,319
Speaker 2: You don't ever want an injury to a player. And

983
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 2: all Dylan is done is everything that's asked of him

984
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:25,800
Speaker 2: since he's gotten here. He's just done everything. The injury

985
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:28,400
Speaker 2: did happen, should get did get thrust in. If you

986
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:30,360
Speaker 2: just are a bottom line guy and you see the

987
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:32,800
Speaker 2: stats in the box square reds, you're going that ain't in.

988
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 2: That's clearly not it. The sacks, the completions for all

989
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:38,799
Speaker 2: of it, hits, it's a mess. But there were a

990
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:42,440
Speaker 2: couple of moments when you go, oh, there, the throat

991
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:44,840
Speaker 2: of Larvadaan, which if you complete it, the place is

992
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 2: electric and all of a sudden, maybe you beat the

993
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 2: Baltimore Ravens. So what did you make of his debut?

994
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 2: Thrust into it and what positives do you see in

995
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 2: his play?

996
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:56,920
Speaker 11: So I was under the stadium when when all of

997
00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 11: this happened he went into the game, and everyone who

998
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 11: was under the stadium having lunch or whatever we were

999
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 11: doing under there.

1000
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 4: The minute they announced that, they all left y.

1001
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 11: Yeah, they couldn't wait to go out and watch him play.

1002
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 11: I could say that he looked like he's ready for

1003
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:15,839
Speaker 11: the part. I think he has a talent for the part,

1004
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 11: but he hasn't completed a job to get the part.

1005
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:21,279
Speaker 11: And I don't get enough from Dylan Gabriel that makes

1006
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 11: me say that's my guy next year, or that's my

1007
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:25,600
Speaker 11: guy next week. So you got to give the other

1008
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:28,080
Speaker 11: guy a shot now. And you can't be flipping them

1009
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 11: back and forth. But they're rookies. You can do what

1010
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 11: you want to them, because in reality, you need to

1011
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 11: find someone that can play quarterback for you for the

1012
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 11: next five to ten years.

1013
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 4: There's no joke around that this is a quarterback run league.

1014
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:43,320
Speaker 11: You need someone in there that can perform under duress,

1015
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:45,760
Speaker 11: and whether these guys can do it, I'm not sold

1016
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 11: on it.

1017
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:47,920
Speaker 4: I wasn't sold when he came out of Colorado.

1018
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:49,839
Speaker 11: I thought he was a good young talent, and I

1019
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 11: think molding a little bit more and more discipline because

1020
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:54,480
Speaker 11: I don't like him really run back to it. I

1021
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 11: don't like when he's back to the line. There's things

1022
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:59,319
Speaker 11: I do not like. But then there's things he does.

1023
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:01,880
Speaker 11: He sits h in his saddle, when he throws the football,

1024
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 11: he can get it down the field thirty or forty yards.

1025
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:04,680
Speaker 4: We saw that.

1026
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 11: Now, if you get more accurate, if he gets more

1027
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 11: time and practice to do these things, I think there's

1028
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:11,960
Speaker 11: a future for him. But like everyone else, you've got

1029
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 11: to prove it. It's nothing I do off the field

1030
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:16,799
Speaker 11: that's gonna better me on the field. So everything that

1031
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:18,439
Speaker 11: I need to do to get to be a better

1032
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:23,160
Speaker 11: football player is within those hours of study, understanding what

1033
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:25,479
Speaker 11: I'm doing, being aware of what I'm doing, and try

1034
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:28,120
Speaker 11: to be ahead of the next guy, because defenses will

1035
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 11: always try to stop you once you get good at something,

1036
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:33,840
Speaker 11: and I'm smart enough as a coordinator as an offense

1037
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:36,640
Speaker 11: that I'm already hit of a game. Yeah, I'm already

1038
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:38,840
Speaker 11: ahead of the game because I know what this defense

1039
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 11: is gonna be tough on this offense. Okay, then we

1040
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 11: got to have an alternative, so we're going in the

1041
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:45,880
Speaker 11: second half, we got another thing going. Playing with Bernie

1042
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 11: was a big deal because he was so crafted and

1043
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:50,719
Speaker 11: people always saying you were so smart. I said, well,

1044
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 11: we had to be smart too. He can't tell me.

1045
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:55,319
Speaker 11: We kind of understand this thing too. But there will

1046
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:58,319
Speaker 11: be times that we will be real stimied on our fense,

1047
00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:01,200
Speaker 11: just couldn't get something going. And Lindy and Fanni would

1048
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 11: simply say, okay, all right, let's just watch what we

1049
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 11: were going, Bernie. We're gonna call it at the line

1050
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:07,920
Speaker 11: and loosen things up. So we would go sugar offense.

1051
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:09,799
Speaker 11: Let him call it at the line, we use all

1052
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 11: hands signals, you complete a few passes, and did mojo

1053
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:14,880
Speaker 11: starts to change, and that's an alternative.

1054
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:17,040
Speaker 4: Then later we would settle back down and get back.

1055
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:19,719
Speaker 11: To running the football. But something that would jar us

1056
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:22,440
Speaker 11: to get ourselves motive. There is no reason to run

1057
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 11: the same thing in the first quarter, second thirty quarter,

1058
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:26,840
Speaker 11: and then the third quarter and be losing.

1059
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:28,600
Speaker 4: It makes no sense to me.

1060
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:31,040
Speaker 2: To your point, the best drive he had was the

1061
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:35,960
Speaker 2: two minute. Yes, Jack's up tempo, it's quick, it's it's popping, yep,

1062
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:38,239
Speaker 2: and he just missed the one to Bond. I mean,

1063
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:41,760
Speaker 2: that's the one he hit in camp all the time.

1064
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:44,560
Speaker 2: But that is That's probably what you're talking about, Like

1065
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:47,400
Speaker 2: sometimes you just need a little bit of tempo to

1066
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:47,879
Speaker 2: feel it.

1067
00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:48,200
Speaker 4: There.

1068
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 11: There is I play with Jeff George too, and there

1069
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 11: is a normal offense where you call the play, you

1070
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 11: get in the huddle, you go out and stand in

1071
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 11: there and you hoot, hoot, you look around and get

1072
00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:59,239
Speaker 11: all that stuff. And then there's a Sugar office where

1073
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:02,239
Speaker 11: everybody's kind of Coles comes back close. You get the

1074
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:04,760
Speaker 11: lineman protection, you get the receivers routes, and we're gonna

1075
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:06,920
Speaker 11: move but we don't have to rush. And then as

1076
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 11: a hurry up offense, Yeah, yeah, I have no problem

1077
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 11: with sugar, just like it to put pressure on the defense.

1078
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:14,680
Speaker 4: If we're not that good, we gotta find some angle.

1079
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:17,799
Speaker 11: Yeah, and maybe not every series, just a little change,

1080
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:19,719
Speaker 11: you know, if you go three and out, that's fine,

1081
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:21,960
Speaker 11: but at least give him something to think about when

1082
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:25,200
Speaker 11: you don't have the receiver talent. I mean, you got

1083
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:27,319
Speaker 11: a great tight ends, you got a nice running back.

1084
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:30,240
Speaker 11: The quarterbacks can be helped if the receivers are running

1085
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:32,800
Speaker 11: good routes and create space, and it makes it easy

1086
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:34,120
Speaker 11: for that young kid back there.

1087
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 4: I mean, you gotta look at it. J Judy. Hey,

1088
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:38,760
Speaker 4: I'm twenty one years old. Man. I need some helphold

1089
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:40,399
Speaker 4: dog because he's supposed to be the leader.

1090
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:42,640
Speaker 11: Yeah, you know, And I like to see and Juco

1091
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 11: gets more attempts because I think he's a fight out athlete.

1092
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 4: He needs more attempts.

1093
00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:49,200
Speaker 3: We're gonna talk for a second about the Browns, but

1094
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:50,759
Speaker 3: you mentioned he played with Jeff George.

1095
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:52,840
Speaker 5: How would you rate his arm and his ability to

1096
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:53,520
Speaker 5: throw a football?

1097
00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 11: Jeff could throw it anywhere at any time all day long. Yeah,

1098
00:47:57,239 --> 00:47:59,280
Speaker 11: he's slinging that thing. He's one of the only guys

1099
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:01,680
Speaker 11: that I saw is to back that. When he catches

1100
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:04,480
Speaker 11: the ball, whether it's under center or if you caught

1101
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 11: it in the shotgun, he'd flip.

1102
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:09,879
Speaker 3: It and then he put his yes, which is insane. Yes,

1103
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:12,000
Speaker 3: I feel like I have like decent size hands.

1104
00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:13,719
Speaker 5: That's it. I don't even understand how he.

1105
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:17,360
Speaker 11: Goes everything on the dark, like BK throws it like this,

1106
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:21,040
Speaker 11: not a big moon ball, but just through the Jeff, now,

1107
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:23,560
Speaker 11: it's coming to you now. And then Metcalf and I

1108
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:26,279
Speaker 11: we talked about this because Met played with Jeff was

1109
00:48:26,360 --> 00:48:28,360
Speaker 11: quite productive to him, Yes he was, and so we

1110
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:29,919
Speaker 11: both hit a chance to play with her like he's

1111
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:31,759
Speaker 11: something else. He's one of those guys like did you

1112
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:33,759
Speaker 11: go get open? I ain't looking at nobody with you.

1113
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:35,439
Speaker 11: That's what he did.

1114
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:37,040
Speaker 5: I love it all right.

1115
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:38,960
Speaker 3: You mentioned we have to be anticipatory right after what

1116
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 3: we saw was Shador. They're gonna blitz him. We need

1117
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:45,279
Speaker 3: to have a plan for the blitz. And I think

1118
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:47,600
Speaker 3: it's so important not only to be ready for those

1119
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:49,839
Speaker 3: third downs where they do bring the house, but one

1120
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:51,600
Speaker 3: of the things that I think we've really struggled with

1121
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:53,320
Speaker 3: it really we haven't talked a lot about, is we

1122
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:55,640
Speaker 3: have not been a good first down team. And the

1123
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:57,279
Speaker 3: best way to say out a third and long is

1124
00:48:57,320 --> 00:48:59,160
Speaker 3: to get first downs on first down or get it

1125
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:01,279
Speaker 3: to second and show. And now you have everything in

1126
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:03,080
Speaker 3: the playbook, you can hit some of those play actions.

1127
00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:03,719
Speaker 2: You can go for that.

1128
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:05,279
Speaker 3: But when we get into it, and I think we've done

1129
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:07,000
Speaker 3: at the times, run run pass.

1130
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:09,279
Speaker 5: It's been very difficult for us.

1131
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:12,360
Speaker 11: I learned this from another thing from Lindy and a Fonte.

1132
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 11: He used to call it pitch and catch, and Brian

1133
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:18,240
Speaker 11: Brennan was a masterful Ozzie newsom Where's masterful at it.

1134
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:20,399
Speaker 11: It's no more than getting five or six yards, turning

1135
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:23,160
Speaker 11: your body, catching the ball, creating sucond and five second

1136
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:25,480
Speaker 11: and four. So therefore he puts a lot of pressure

1137
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:27,360
Speaker 11: on the defense, and I think we have the ability

1138
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:31,400
Speaker 11: to do that. There's got to be at some point

1139
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 11: where we got to enforce our power on someone else

1140
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:38,759
Speaker 11: and not be so caught up in being dictated to

1141
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:40,839
Speaker 11: what we do. It's like we would never come out

1142
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:43,040
Speaker 11: with that energy that looks like I know where I'm going,

1143
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:46,040
Speaker 11: you can't stop it, and they go by their business

1144
00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:49,080
Speaker 11: and it just seems like we're just hoping something pops,

1145
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:52,920
Speaker 11: We're hoping something works. There's no real direction, there's no

1146
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:56,040
Speaker 11: I'm moving forward and I'm going now.

1147
00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:58,520
Speaker 3: Think about when you were just psyching ran through, when

1148
00:49:58,560 --> 00:50:00,960
Speaker 3: you were playing, so you had you and Webster and

1149
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 3: Brian and Ozzie, and just think about the stress that

1150
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:06,960
Speaker 3: those guys you together would put on a defense and

1151
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:09,239
Speaker 3: I think this is a weapons league, and I was

1152
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:12,640
Speaker 3: we were singing from the mountaintops, weapons, weapons, weapons in

1153
00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:14,560
Speaker 3: this draft. Now you did get Quinnchine and got Harold Fanning,

1154
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:16,719
Speaker 3: But I think when you look around the league at

1155
00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:19,840
Speaker 3: the offenses that are consistently productive, they have wide receivers

1156
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:22,239
Speaker 3: that scared defenses because number one, that could take a

1157
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:24,359
Speaker 3: safety that's in the box out of the box, and

1158
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:26,879
Speaker 3: it creates space. When you have somebody goes vertical, you're

1159
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 3: widening the field and you're lengthening the field, and we're playing.

1160
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:32,200
Speaker 5: In the red zone at all times. It feels like.

1161
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:36,680
Speaker 11: You're going to face a defense that Last night, you

1162
00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:40,080
Speaker 11: watched George Pickens go off yes, right and.

1163
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:42,680
Speaker 3: C and he didn't see how do you think CD

1164
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:45,040
Speaker 3: hit one of his better games, like five for sixty

1165
00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:47,520
Speaker 3: in a touchdown, didn't Pickts just seemed to look like

1166
00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:48,680
Speaker 3: he was a whole different player.

1167
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:51,440
Speaker 11: That means if we can't take advantage of this, I'm

1168
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:54,600
Speaker 11: waiting on Isaiah Bond to show me something from a

1169
00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:55,680
Speaker 11: ball in a few.

1170
00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:57,920
Speaker 5: Weeks, I will say this was just a little defense

1171
00:50:57,960 --> 00:50:58,319
Speaker 5: of him.

1172
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:00,200
Speaker 3: If we had been able to throw the football down

1173
00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:02,279
Speaker 3: the field accurately, he might have five touchdowns right now.

1174
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:05,160
Speaker 5: Okay, he's been behind the defense. We have not yet

1175
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:06,080
Speaker 5: hit it.

1176
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:09,239
Speaker 11: Well, if number twelve is in the huddle this week, yes,

1177
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:10,600
Speaker 11: I guarantee you it goes deep.

1178
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:12,480
Speaker 4: He was, He can sit in the saddle, he could

1179
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:12,880
Speaker 4: sling it.

1180
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:14,880
Speaker 11: And I don't think he's afraid to throw it because

1181
00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:16,400
Speaker 11: you never know what you're gonna get out of it.

1182
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:18,880
Speaker 11: If you're gonna be scared to do this thing, take chances.

1183
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:21,319
Speaker 11: Most quarter bites do fie. We've talked about this sometime.

1184
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:23,839
Speaker 3: He's gonna take some bad sacks like that's just we

1185
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:26,759
Speaker 3: all have to accept that. But he's gonna hit some

1186
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:28,640
Speaker 3: of those chunk plays. I think that we're living in

1187
00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:32,000
Speaker 3: a world where we're trying to go ten, twelve, thirteen,

1188
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:33,040
Speaker 3: fourteen play drives.

1189
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:36,759
Speaker 5: You cannot do that consistently. In the NFL. We need chunks,

1190
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:37,680
Speaker 5: and at least shador.

1191
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:39,920
Speaker 3: I think he's gonna have some negative chunks, but he's

1192
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:41,960
Speaker 3: gonna have some positive chunks, and I think that has

1193
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:44,400
Speaker 3: an opportunity to kind of jump start things. This is

1194
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:46,759
Speaker 3: I think a critical week for him, a critical week

1195
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:49,040
Speaker 3: for the game plan, the practice, all of it, and

1196
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 3: an opportunity against the defense, it is one of the

1197
00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:52,719
Speaker 3: worst in the league. Like this has to be the

1198
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:54,879
Speaker 3: week that we kind of can unlock it. And if

1199
00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:56,759
Speaker 3: you go to your point, you want to see him.

1200
00:51:56,880 --> 00:51:58,399
Speaker 3: He goes and has a good game and we beat

1201
00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:02,200
Speaker 3: the Raiders. He's going to keep star correct. The opportunity

1202
00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:03,960
Speaker 3: is there, and I don't want.

1203
00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:06,000
Speaker 4: To take any thing away from from Gabrael.

1204
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:08,400
Speaker 11: I wanted him to get a full run and a

1205
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:11,480
Speaker 11: full opportunity the five or six weeks. And this is

1206
00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:14,360
Speaker 11: my thinking was he'd played five to six weeks and

1207
00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:16,239
Speaker 11: then we see what he was capable of doing, and

1208
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:18,520
Speaker 11: then would switch to the other rookies Shador and let

1209
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:20,320
Speaker 11: him see what he could do on the last.

1210
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:20,719
Speaker 4: Five or six.

1211
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:24,320
Speaker 11: But I didn't get any excitement or any real sharpness

1212
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:24,960
Speaker 11: from Gabriel.

1213
00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:29,640
Speaker 3: I don't know that he was asked to make too big.

1214
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:32,080
Speaker 3: I think he was asked not to turn the because remember,

1215
00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:34,239
Speaker 3: don't turn over. And while he was the starter, to

1216
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:36,880
Speaker 3: his credit, we had the fewest giveaways in the NFL.

1217
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:40,080
Speaker 3: I think the next evolution for him to be that guy,

1218
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:42,719
Speaker 3: you know if our defense and this again, we can

1219
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:44,279
Speaker 3: play what ifs about the same. But let's just say

1220
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:47,040
Speaker 3: he had the lead in London, the defense go, let's

1221
00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:49,719
Speaker 3: Minnesota go eighty yards. You win that one. Especially teams

1222
00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:51,480
Speaker 3: gives up fourteen against Jens. Let's say you went out,

1223
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:53,440
Speaker 3: He's three and two as a starter through five. Then

1224
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:57,000
Speaker 3: you're saying, Okay, this actually did work. He wasn't losing games.

1225
00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:59,160
Speaker 3: But the evolution, obviously to be the answer to the

1226
00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:01,920
Speaker 3: question that we all want to have answers, is somebody

1227
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:03,480
Speaker 3: to get you have to not only not you.

1228
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:05,040
Speaker 5: Have to be able to win games for the team.

1229
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:06,920
Speaker 3: And that's that's what we haven't seen from I think

1230
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:08,719
Speaker 3: Chador is gonna be a little bit more. He might

1231
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:11,000
Speaker 3: lose you some games, he's gonna win you some games

1232
00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:12,840
Speaker 3: until he can refine this, you know, kind of like

1233
00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:14,840
Speaker 3: Jamis was. I don't think it's gonna be necessarily to

1234
00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:18,040
Speaker 3: that degree, but that was but at least that was

1235
00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:21,000
Speaker 3: fun football, right the game in Denver. We did not

1236
00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:23,480
Speaker 3: win that game, which stunk, but I would I could

1237
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:25,560
Speaker 3: sit down and rewatch that game one hundred times. You know,

1238
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:27,400
Speaker 3: we throw four hundred yards for a touchdowns, you have

1239
00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:29,879
Speaker 3: to throw a couple touchdowns to them, unfortunately, but that's

1240
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:31,239
Speaker 3: what he needed to be delivered.

1241
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:31,600
Speaker 5: From pick sixes.

1242
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:34,080
Speaker 3: But at least if we can make some of those

1243
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:35,839
Speaker 3: chunk plays, I think it just gives us a chance.

1244
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:37,239
Speaker 3: Our defense is good enough that if we could just

1245
00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:39,800
Speaker 3: score twenty one twenty two points a game, we're gonna

1246
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:42,399
Speaker 3: be in every single game. We just haven't been able

1247
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:44,279
Speaker 3: to do that Consistencely. We've been over twenty points once

1248
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:46,279
Speaker 3: all year, and that was the Miami game. We've been

1249
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:47,720
Speaker 3: over seventeen points just twice.

1250
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:51,799
Speaker 11: Yeah, how can he The young guys even feel like

1251
00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:55,240
Speaker 11: they're leading the team when they're being held back. It's

1252
00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:57,319
Speaker 11: I mean, young people are gonna make mistakes, and your

1253
00:53:57,320 --> 00:53:59,920
Speaker 11: defense is good enough to overcome them because they're over

1254
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:02,520
Speaker 11: coming through and out playing safe. Sure, so at some

1255
00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:04,960
Speaker 11: point if you put me out here on this field,

1256
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:07,880
Speaker 11: then you owe me the respect for my due diligence

1257
00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:08,800
Speaker 11: to perform.

1258
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:10,799
Speaker 4: I cannot perform with chains on.

1259
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:13,920
Speaker 11: Sure, maybe it's good in some situations that you remind

1260
00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:15,480
Speaker 11: me not to throw it away or not, I mean,

1261
00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:18,000
Speaker 11: not to throw in theerceptions. But as an athlete, you

1262
00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:20,040
Speaker 11: gotta like see biscuit turn them loose.

1263
00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:25,680
Speaker 2: And you listen to ESPN Cleveland eight p. Fifty WK

1264
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:28,600
Speaker 2: and r A good karma Brands station. Reggie Langhorn with

1265
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:31,560
Speaker 2: us one before we let you leave. He said this

1266
00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:34,239
Speaker 2: before and anytime we have somebody from your era, I

1267
00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:36,799
Speaker 2: think it's I'm always curious you guys' perspective of it.

1268
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:39,799
Speaker 2: Grew up in the Bay Area, and he's and he's

1269
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:42,600
Speaker 2: made this comment that you guys are more beloved here

1270
00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:47,640
Speaker 2: than the eighties Niners were are in San Francisco. What

1271
00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:51,640
Speaker 2: does this town and this fan base mean to you guys?

1272
00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:54,720
Speaker 2: What does it meant to your life? I still live here, Yeah,

1273
00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:56,879
Speaker 2: I mean that says it all right there. And there's

1274
00:54:56,920 --> 00:54:57,759
Speaker 2: quite a few of us.

1275
00:54:58,600 --> 00:55:01,680
Speaker 11: A lot of us come from small and when I retired,

1276
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:03,839
Speaker 11: I went back to my hometown and I realized that

1277
00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:07,160
Speaker 11: I had outgrown my hometown. Now I plan on retiring

1278
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:10,440
Speaker 11: and going back there because I have grandchildren now. But

1279
00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:13,440
Speaker 11: this city has loved us, and we had a good

1280
00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:16,280
Speaker 11: corps of guys that really loved the city. I remember

1281
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:19,319
Speaker 11: Gino Lucarelli putting us out in this community and Art

1282
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:20,960
Speaker 11: Mondeal made it a big thing for us to go

1283
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:24,359
Speaker 11: to schools or hospitals every Tuesday that we were all.

1284
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:26,000
Speaker 4: That's what we did. There were no cameras.

1285
00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:27,919
Speaker 11: We just had a list of places and they would

1286
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:29,680
Speaker 11: say you go here, you go there, and then you

1287
00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:32,320
Speaker 11: fell in love with the city. I remember walking into

1288
00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:33,480
Speaker 11: the stadium at gate A.

1289
00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:35,399
Speaker 4: There was no valator go under.

1290
00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:38,080
Speaker 11: We shook hands with babies and kiss obomas on our

1291
00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:40,560
Speaker 11: way in. And I'm still to this day beast to

1292
00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:42,759
Speaker 11: win in an autograph session and some lady in her

1293
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:44,520
Speaker 11: thirties will come up to me and show me a

1294
00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:46,600
Speaker 11: picture and say that's my mom and that's me and

1295
00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:49,160
Speaker 11: that was the baby. So it's kind of amazing. Yeah,

1296
00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:51,840
Speaker 11: the stories. Kids came to my house for trick a treat.

1297
00:55:52,120 --> 00:55:54,160
Speaker 11: I was twenty two years old. I ain't no candy.

1298
00:55:54,440 --> 00:55:57,239
Speaker 11: I signed football cars for you know. So all these

1299
00:55:57,280 --> 00:56:00,000
Speaker 11: stories of this city and that group that we had there,

1300
00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:02,040
Speaker 11: they all felt we all fell in love with each other.

1301
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:03,719
Speaker 4: Uh and we were on the same ride.

1302
00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:08,439
Speaker 11: And we just couldn't play perfectly against Denver on AFC week.

1303
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:11,400
Speaker 11: And that's the only time that I get emotional about football.

1304
00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:13,920
Speaker 11: One is Opening Day in Cleveland Stadium, and the other

1305
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:18,520
Speaker 11: ones is AFC and NFC the suck of the fire week, ye,

1306
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Speaker 11: because I know how close we were, you know, And

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Speaker 11: now I'm sixty two year old man and I sit

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Speaker 11: back and go, God, we were right there. They say,

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Speaker 11: if you don't get it, when you get it, it's gone,

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Speaker 11: and it is. That's it. Yeah, thank you, Thank you guys.

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Speaker 11: And this has been very much uh interesting and fun

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Speaker 11: is sitting and chit chat. I hope that one of

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Speaker 11: these young men can can lead this team and give

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Speaker 11: them a new idea, just a new vision of winning

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Speaker 11: some football games. Because the city deserves it. They're going

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Speaker 11: to show up. They showed up.

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Speaker 4: At one in thirty one. Bro. I mean yeah, I

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Speaker 2: Game Day. Here is linebacker Devin Bush.

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Speaker 12: Hey, Devin, just wondering in terms of film and stuff,

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Speaker 12: if you guys have had a chance to rewatch the

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Speaker 12: Mark Andrews touchdown and for some time to digest it,

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Speaker 12: just what happened on that plays As you guys are

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00:58:05,080 --> 00:58:07,720
Speaker 12: obviously like expecting the sneak and they go with a

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Speaker 12: different option.

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00:58:09,160 --> 00:58:11,120
Speaker 7: Yeah, we were expecting to sneak. They got in a

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Speaker 7: sneak formation and they had a good counter off of it,

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Speaker 7: fake toss lamar QB keeper and it was a good call.

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Speaker 12: What's just important for you guys as a defense right

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00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:27,080
Speaker 12: now as the offense, you know, continues to struggle to

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00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:29,280
Speaker 12: put points on the board, like in order to keep

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Speaker 12: the team together and everything.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, we's got to keep playing hard. We's got to

1348
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Speaker 7: keep setting ourselves up and putting ourselves in the best

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Speaker 7: situation to win. And as long as we keep doing that,

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Speaker 7: you know, we can't we can't you be down on ourselves.

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Speaker 13: Hey, Devin, just wondering, I've heard sort of behind the

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Speaker 13: scenes that when Shador runs the scout team for you guys,

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Speaker 13: that he's been doing some really nice things and making

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Speaker 13: some good progress in practice, And just wondering is that

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Speaker 13: Can you just share with us a little bit about,

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Speaker 13: you know, what you've seen from him and how he's

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Speaker 13: developed and come along over the past how many ever weeks.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, he's been giving us good looks, you know, depending

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Speaker 7: on you know, who we're going against that week. He

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Speaker 7: gives us chance. He challenges our coverages a lot. There's

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Speaker 7: been times where he's played a couple of own reads,

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Speaker 7: giving us good looks on that. So I think he's

1363
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Speaker 7: just taking that progression and treated like game reps. And

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Speaker 7: I think he's doing a real good job getting us

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Speaker 7: ready for the week and as well so getting himself ready.

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Speaker 13: And based on what you've seen, does that give you

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Speaker 13: confidence that once he's got a full week of practice

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Speaker 13: and he worked. I don't know if he's going to

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Speaker 13: start this week, but if he gets a full week

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Speaker 13: of practice and if he goes in there, based on

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Speaker 13: what you've seen in some of those practices, are you

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Speaker 13: pretty confident that he's going to perform pretty well going forward.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I got confidence and Devin.

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Speaker 10: After the game yesterday, Miles was talking about you and

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Speaker 10: he said you're having resurgence and you look more comfortable

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Speaker 10: and he thinks you're putting it all together.

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Speaker 4: You agree with that?

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Speaker 10: And how just you assess your season?

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Speaker 4: H Yeah?

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Speaker 7: Man, I mean we still got a seven games ago,

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Speaker 7: so I mean, I think it's still pretty early. But

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Speaker 7: I mean I'm just going out there. I'm just having

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Speaker 7: fun with it. A lot of guys I play with

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Speaker 7: and I love coming to work every day, and you know,

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Speaker 7: going throughout the weeks, you know, with this team, you know,

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Speaker 7: obviously we would want a better record, we want things

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Speaker 7: to be different, but football is all about having fun

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Speaker 7: and being part of a team. So I'm enjoying it.

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Speaker 10: And then you guys are so good against Henry in

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Speaker 10: week two and I know yesterday most of it was

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Speaker 10: the long run. But what do they do? Did they

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Speaker 10: do anything different schematically that allowed him to get a

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Speaker 10: little bit of ahead of steam on some.

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Speaker 4: Of those runs? Yeah?

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Speaker 7: I mean, I mean they do what they always do.

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Speaker 7: I mean they run off tackle, they run in between

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Speaker 7: the tackles, and they just keep feeding you different same runs,

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Speaker 7: just different looks.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 14: Then you just kind of touched on on defense, just

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Speaker 14: needing to kind of do your thing and keep making

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Speaker 14: plays out there while the offense figures things out. But

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Speaker 14: for you guys, it feels like the margin of error

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Speaker 14: is so small when the offense is putting up points.

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Speaker 14: Is that something you've had to navigate of wanting to

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Speaker 14: make the plays and wanting to hold hold the fork

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Speaker 14: down while the offense figures it out, but also not

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Speaker 14: trying to do too much. Uh and and maybe make

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Speaker 14: mistakes as you're trying to do a little too much.

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Speaker 14: I know that's been kind of a point that you

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Speaker 14: guys have emphasized, if not doing too much.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I think that's the biggest thing about that is

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Speaker 7: you know, knowing knowing what our challenges are, knowing what

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Speaker 7: we're trying to overcome, and being able to settle it,

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Speaker 7: settle in in those moments, and you know, having confidence

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Speaker 7: in our in our scheme and our and our players

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Speaker 7: and our coaches as well, and just going out there

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Speaker 7: and executing.

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Speaker 14: And you mentioned some of the good things that you've

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Speaker 14: seen from Miles Garrett and not not a surprise anymore,

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Speaker 14: but what have you seen from the guys next to

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Speaker 14: him and Mason Graham and Malik Collins and how they're

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Speaker 14: able to impact the defensive line and then let that

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Speaker 14: trickle back into the into the linebackers in the secondary.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, compliments everybody. It starts up front. It always has

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Speaker 7: and always will be, no matter you know what type

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01:01:54,080 --> 01:01:56,439
Speaker 7: of system or what type of level of football you plan,

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Speaker 7: And those guys compliment him well, he compliments them well.

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Speaker 7: And I think as you see as each week goes on,

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Speaker 7: you know, it's it's hard and harder to deal with

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Speaker 7: just Miles itself. When you got my Elik rushing like that,

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Speaker 7: you got Mason coming from the three tech to two

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Speaker 7: to I, you'ven got Shelby Harris making noise, bat and

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Speaker 7: balls down you guys and Alex when they get their

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01:02:16,920 --> 01:02:19,480
Speaker 7: get their chance to throw their best fastball. So I

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Speaker 7: think our front works well together.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, Devin, what's it like watching Miles do what he's

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Speaker 15: doing right now? He's got ten sacks in his last

1439
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Speaker 15: three games, fifteen on the season.

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Speaker 10: You know, fourth guy in NFL history.

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Speaker 15: With you know, multiple games with four more sacks in

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Speaker 15: a season, right, It just seems like every week he's

1443
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Speaker 15: adding another milestone to what's going to be a Hall

1444
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Speaker 15: of Fame resume. So, just as his teammate, what's it

1445
01:02:44,520 --> 01:02:47,520
Speaker 15: like being around and playing with a guy like that

1446
01:02:47,640 --> 01:02:48,560
Speaker 15: weekend or week out?

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01:02:48,920 --> 01:02:52,160
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's great. I mean who doesn't want to play

1448
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Speaker 7: with a guy like that. I mean, you know he's

1449
01:02:53,520 --> 01:02:55,320
Speaker 7: gonna show up Sundays, He's gonna come out there and

1450
01:02:55,320 --> 01:02:57,360
Speaker 7: give it his best. You know, it gives you compsons

1451
01:02:57,360 --> 01:02:58,640
Speaker 7: to go out there and give it your best because

1452
01:02:58,640 --> 01:03:01,520
Speaker 7: you know you got him right next to you. You know,

1453
01:03:01,760 --> 01:03:03,240
Speaker 7: I think it's our job at this point to get

1454
01:03:03,320 --> 01:03:04,680
Speaker 7: him to where he needs to be at to keep

1455
01:03:04,720 --> 01:03:05,760
Speaker 7: that resume where it's at.

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01:03:06,080 --> 01:03:07,840
Speaker 15: And then just for you guys, as a defense, you've

1457
01:03:07,840 --> 01:03:11,120
Speaker 15: played really well this season. Obviously the offense is trying

1458
01:03:11,120 --> 01:03:14,000
Speaker 15: to find its footing. A lot of times with teams

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Speaker 15: at this point in the season, when you get into

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Speaker 15: mid November, you know there'd be some griping and finger

1461
01:03:19,840 --> 01:03:23,280
Speaker 15: pointing and division and things like that. We've not seen

1462
01:03:23,360 --> 01:03:27,200
Speaker 15: that from you guys. What what has allowed you as

1463
01:03:27,240 --> 01:03:31,480
Speaker 15: a team to kind of keep that together and especially

1464
01:03:31,480 --> 01:03:34,360
Speaker 15: on the defensive side of the ball, you know, be

1465
01:03:34,520 --> 01:03:38,840
Speaker 15: patient and understanding while the offense might be going through

1466
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Speaker 15: some growing paigns.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, we all know our situation. I mean,

1468
01:03:43,160 --> 01:03:44,680
Speaker 7: we're not going to see it blind.

1469
01:03:44,520 --> 01:03:44,919
Speaker 4: To the fact.

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Speaker 7: You know, we got two rookie quarterbacks that we're relying on,

1471
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Speaker 7: as well as a bunch of other rookies on the

1472
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Speaker 7: office side of the ball. So it's gonna be times

1473
01:03:52,840 --> 01:03:55,040
Speaker 7: where you know the experience is going to outweigh you

1474
01:03:55,080 --> 01:03:57,160
Speaker 7: know the outcome, and you know it's just our job

1475
01:03:57,200 --> 01:03:58,960
Speaker 7: to be with him, to stick with him through it out.

1476
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Speaker 16: Hey, Devin, obviously, when you came into the league, you know,

1477
01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:04,240
Speaker 16: first round pick with the Steelers, you got your career

1478
01:04:04,280 --> 01:04:06,840
Speaker 16: off to a tremendous start, and then the knee injury

1479
01:04:06,960 --> 01:04:10,760
Speaker 16: was a setback for you. But you know, standing here

1480
01:04:10,760 --> 01:04:12,760
Speaker 16: in twenty twenty five, with with what you're sort of

1481
01:04:12,760 --> 01:04:15,520
Speaker 16: putting together on the field, do you feel that you're

1482
01:04:15,560 --> 01:04:18,880
Speaker 16: playing at the highest level you have throughout your career.

1483
01:04:21,120 --> 01:04:24,880
Speaker 7: I'm not sure. I don't think so yet. Like I said,

1484
01:04:24,880 --> 01:04:27,600
Speaker 7: when he got seven, we got seven games left, so

1485
01:04:27,600 --> 01:04:31,240
Speaker 7: it's a lot more football to be played. So we'll see.

1486
01:04:31,560 --> 01:04:35,160
Speaker 10: Hey, we've talked to you a lot about Carson, But

1487
01:04:35,200 --> 01:04:37,360
Speaker 10: you know, I think after the game, Grant said, yeah,

1488
01:04:37,360 --> 01:04:40,600
Speaker 10: he thinks he's an All Pro. Is he playing that well? Like,

1489
01:04:40,760 --> 01:04:43,160
Speaker 10: does he deserve to be considered among the best linebackers

1490
01:04:43,200 --> 01:04:44,200
Speaker 10: in the league And if.

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Speaker 4: So, why?

1492
01:04:45,520 --> 01:04:49,480
Speaker 7: Yeah? First of all, he's a rookie. This is his

1493
01:04:49,480 --> 01:04:52,440
Speaker 7: first first go around in the league, which is not

1494
01:04:52,560 --> 01:04:54,880
Speaker 7: easy to do. It's probably gonna be the longest season

1495
01:04:54,880 --> 01:04:58,200
Speaker 7: ever of his career, just coming from the draft process

1496
01:04:58,200 --> 01:05:01,880
Speaker 7: and everything like that. He came in, he fit in,

1497
01:05:02,080 --> 01:05:04,400
Speaker 7: he commands a call, he makes a call, he makes

1498
01:05:04,400 --> 01:05:09,360
Speaker 7: the checks, he's out doing third down making stops, sack picks,

1499
01:05:09,480 --> 01:05:12,120
Speaker 7: you know, whatever it is to put his team position

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Speaker 7: to win. And that's what all pros do. Appreciate it.

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01:05:15,040 --> 01:05:17,320
Speaker 17: Hey, Devin, I just kind of wanted to ask, I mean,

1502
01:05:17,920 --> 01:05:21,480
Speaker 17: you go into this season without j Okay, you know,

1503
01:05:21,640 --> 01:05:24,440
Speaker 17: rookie and Carson Swestinger are just some questions. I mean,

1504
01:05:24,760 --> 01:05:28,560
Speaker 17: lost Hicks to retirement. What has been the secret to

1505
01:05:28,600 --> 01:05:32,240
Speaker 17: getting this linebacking corps? You know, as you know kind

1506
01:05:32,240 --> 01:05:33,919
Speaker 17: of came into the season, is looking at it's gonna

1507
01:05:33,920 --> 01:05:35,880
Speaker 17: be one of the weakest parts of that defense and

1508
01:05:36,480 --> 01:05:39,320
Speaker 17: turning into one of the strengths of this defense, if

1509
01:05:39,360 --> 01:05:41,080
Speaker 17: not the strongest part of this defense.

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Speaker 7: What was the question, just.

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Speaker 17: How have you guys you know, navigated through this uh

1512
01:05:47,400 --> 01:05:49,480
Speaker 17: this season in terms of the injury to j Okay

1513
01:05:50,120 --> 01:05:52,720
Speaker 17: and turning into you know, kind of one of the

1514
01:05:52,760 --> 01:05:55,160
Speaker 17: strengths of this defense, that linebacking corps.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, everybody knows how his league go. I'm his next

1516
01:05:59,120 --> 01:06:01,840
Speaker 7: man up. That's what we're here for, is what we

1517
01:06:01,880 --> 01:06:05,520
Speaker 7: signed on to do is play football. So I thought

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Speaker 7: we just did a great job of just putting it

1519
01:06:07,040 --> 01:06:10,760
Speaker 7: all together at the start of OTAs and just working

1520
01:06:10,760 --> 01:06:13,360
Speaker 7: through that through camp, through those joint practises and the

1521
01:06:13,400 --> 01:06:18,280
Speaker 7: preseason as well. So this is no surprises, no secret.

1522
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Speaker 2: All right, there you go, Devin Bush from the podium.

1523
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Speaker 2: There coming up next, one thought around every game in

1524
01:06:26,160 --> 01:06:29,440
Speaker 2: Week eleven of the two thousand and twenty five season.

1525
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Speaker 2: Sports Bar MGM Grand Northfield Park. Time for one thought

1538
01:07:24,320 --> 01:07:27,720
Speaker 2: around every game in week eleven. Hello, gibbet hi, how

1539
01:07:27,760 --> 01:07:28,960
Speaker 2: are you? Oh, we're doing real well.

1540
01:07:29,440 --> 01:07:31,960
Speaker 4: You go there, you go. It's Tuesday.

1541
01:07:32,560 --> 01:07:34,800
Speaker 5: That's right, you have that correctly.

1542
01:07:35,200 --> 01:07:35,920
Speaker 2: It's a Tuesday.

1543
01:07:35,960 --> 01:07:37,120
Speaker 4: It's first Friday eve.

1544
01:07:37,440 --> 01:07:39,080
Speaker 2: That's right, boy, Wait till next day.

1545
01:07:39,080 --> 01:07:39,280
Speaker 4: Cool.

1546
01:07:39,560 --> 01:07:41,680
Speaker 2: Next week's a big Tuesday. Wednesday.

1547
01:07:41,720 --> 01:07:44,040
Speaker 4: Did a little workout last night in advance of next

1548
01:07:44,080 --> 01:07:44,760
Speaker 4: Wednesday night.

1549
01:07:45,120 --> 01:07:47,560
Speaker 2: Get ready, Just get to get the muscles at the bar.

1550
01:07:49,040 --> 01:07:51,440
Speaker 5: Just do some training, gotta get a few things.

1551
01:07:51,880 --> 01:07:52,240
Speaker 4: Get this.

1552
01:07:52,400 --> 01:07:54,960
Speaker 6: Oh, it's like we're going to meet up with everybody.

1553
01:07:55,000 --> 01:07:57,640
Speaker 6: I'm like, yeah, they called, we got to get some practice.

1554
01:07:57,760 --> 01:07:59,200
Speaker 4: Yeah. Come on.

1555
01:07:59,280 --> 01:08:02,840
Speaker 6: Now, we're not hosting Thanksgiving. We're recovering on Thanksgiving.

1556
01:08:03,280 --> 01:08:04,600
Speaker 2: It's a big week for the kids.

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01:08:04,640 --> 01:08:08,120
Speaker 6: That's right, exactly, all right, let's go week eleven in

1558
01:08:08,120 --> 01:08:10,920
Speaker 6: the National Football League, go back to Sunday's games, and

1559
01:08:10,960 --> 01:08:15,160
Speaker 6: we start in Madrid at Reality Madrid.

1560
01:08:15,320 --> 01:08:19,439
Speaker 2: Did you see that? Have you guys seen that before?

1561
01:08:19,960 --> 01:08:22,599
Speaker 5: The stadium? Yeah, that's so cool.

1562
01:08:22,800 --> 01:08:25,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, incredible, And its venue is better than the game.

1563
01:08:26,080 --> 01:08:32,839
Speaker 2: They have two fields underneath, yep, that they rotate. It's unreal.

1564
01:08:33,640 --> 01:08:36,439
Speaker 3: I would like that to do that, but because I

1565
01:08:36,439 --> 01:08:39,759
Speaker 3: think it is very very pricey.

1566
01:08:39,960 --> 01:08:44,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, sure that, but that operation is just that a

1567
01:08:44,040 --> 01:08:48,200
Speaker 2: different it's its own, that's a level even we're not

1568
01:08:48,280 --> 01:08:51,200
Speaker 2: quite familiar with, you know, and this is the NFL.

1569
01:08:51,560 --> 01:08:54,320
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, Well, anyways, in Madrid.

1570
01:08:54,800 --> 01:08:58,280
Speaker 6: Unfortunately, the debut for the Madrid games saw maybe the

1571
01:08:58,320 --> 01:09:02,240
Speaker 6: worst game of the weekend, take down the Commies sixteen

1572
01:09:02,400 --> 01:09:05,120
Speaker 6: thirteen in overtime. Bob Bishop One.

1573
01:09:05,080 --> 01:09:07,000
Speaker 2: Thought, yeah, kind of. I remember at the beginning of

1574
01:09:07,000 --> 01:09:08,400
Speaker 2: the year, I thought this would be a step back

1575
01:09:08,439 --> 01:09:10,679
Speaker 2: year for Washington. I didn't think it would be because

1576
01:09:10,720 --> 01:09:13,640
Speaker 2: of the Daniels injury. I do think long term this

1577
01:09:13,760 --> 01:09:16,240
Speaker 2: might be okay for them. They're gonna up picking higher.

1578
01:09:16,520 --> 01:09:18,800
Speaker 2: There's still a young team. Daniels comes back healthy in

1579
01:09:18,840 --> 01:09:22,080
Speaker 2: a way, you go, Miami did kind of sort a

1580
01:09:22,120 --> 01:09:23,920
Speaker 2: little bit out here. This is a couple of nice

1581
01:09:23,920 --> 01:09:26,559
Speaker 2: wins in a row for them. I do love the

1582
01:09:26,880 --> 01:09:28,920
Speaker 2: I do love the idea of playing in a place

1583
01:09:29,000 --> 01:09:32,280
Speaker 2: like Madrid, playing in Berlin that week before. I think

1584
01:09:32,320 --> 01:09:34,680
Speaker 2: that's really cool that the NFL's doing that. I like it.

1585
01:09:34,960 --> 01:09:37,920
Speaker 3: I think it's pretty cool that, you know, this is

1586
01:09:37,960 --> 01:09:40,760
Speaker 3: a Dolphins team where you thought it was over. Yeah,

1587
01:09:40,840 --> 01:09:44,880
Speaker 3: McDaniel was gone, and they've kind of rallied and responded

1588
01:09:44,960 --> 01:09:48,680
Speaker 3: and Devon h Chan is one of the great weapons

1589
01:09:48,720 --> 01:09:52,600
Speaker 3: in the NFL right now. He is playing at just

1590
01:09:52,680 --> 01:09:56,680
Speaker 3: a ridiculous level his last three This is basically what

1591
01:09:56,720 --> 01:09:59,760
Speaker 3: he's done the last five games. One hundred and fifty

1592
01:09:59,840 --> 01:10:02,599
Speaker 3: yard from scrimmage, two touchdowns, ninety eight yards, ninety one

1593
01:10:02,640 --> 01:10:04,439
Speaker 3: yards from scrimmag's in a touchdown one hundred and six

1594
01:10:04,520 --> 01:10:08,200
Speaker 3: yards two twenty five and two touchdowns one sixty five.

1595
01:10:09,479 --> 01:10:10,680
Speaker 2: Where did he play collegiately?

1596
01:10:10,680 --> 01:10:11,559
Speaker 4: Do you have it up? Yeah?

1597
01:10:12,080 --> 01:10:13,280
Speaker 5: Ah Chan was drafted.

1598
01:10:13,479 --> 01:10:14,960
Speaker 3: He was out of Texas A and M in the

1599
01:10:15,000 --> 01:10:17,559
Speaker 3: third round five to nine, one ninety one, and he's

1600
01:10:17,600 --> 01:10:19,479
Speaker 3: become really one of the great something.

1601
01:10:19,520 --> 01:10:22,000
Speaker 2: I don't even players call him at A and M

1602
01:10:22,080 --> 01:10:24,679
Speaker 2: at all. It's weird here.

1603
01:10:24,720 --> 01:10:26,360
Speaker 5: Hold on, I'll tell you what you wanted these little

1604
01:10:26,400 --> 01:10:27,519
Speaker 5: an M numbers for you.

1605
01:10:32,680 --> 01:10:34,720
Speaker 3: Maybe, Oh that's basketball. I'll get there a second. Go

1606
01:10:34,720 --> 01:10:35,800
Speaker 3: ahead and right carry on.

1607
01:10:36,080 --> 01:10:39,920
Speaker 6: Early games in the one o'clock window, Carolina thirty the

1608
01:10:39,960 --> 01:10:45,360
Speaker 6: Gutlass Falcons twenty seven in overtime. Michael Pennix junior, potentially

1609
01:10:45,560 --> 01:10:48,800
Speaker 6: his fourth season ending injury if you count college and

1610
01:10:48,880 --> 01:10:50,200
Speaker 6: the pros.

1611
01:10:50,680 --> 01:10:51,439
Speaker 4: Uh as the girl.

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01:10:51,479 --> 01:10:53,000
Speaker 5: All right, so tie the bow on a chan.

1613
01:10:53,080 --> 01:10:55,360
Speaker 3: As a sophomore, he ran for nine hundred and ten

1614
01:10:55,400 --> 01:10:58,120
Speaker 3: yards average, seven yards of carrying, nine touchdowns, twenty four

1615
01:10:58,120 --> 01:11:01,639
Speaker 3: catches to sixty one and a touchdown. As a junior,

1616
01:11:01,840 --> 01:11:03,960
Speaker 3: ran for eleven hundred and two yards five point six

1617
01:11:04,040 --> 01:11:06,240
Speaker 3: yards of carry, thirty six catches, one ninety six five

1618
01:11:06,280 --> 01:11:07,160
Speaker 3: point four yards catch.

1619
01:11:07,160 --> 01:11:09,320
Speaker 2: I mean he has been, must have just been bad

1620
01:11:09,439 --> 01:11:12,639
Speaker 2: and m teams the end of Jimbo Fisher twenty one two.

1621
01:11:12,720 --> 01:11:13,400
Speaker 2: See the games.

1622
01:11:13,479 --> 01:11:14,519
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, he's been.

1623
01:11:14,600 --> 01:11:22,800
Speaker 3: He has been quite good, Carolina. Listen, Kat McMillan, matters,

1624
01:11:23,080 --> 01:11:25,880
Speaker 3: weapons matter, and you see Bryce Young.

1625
01:11:25,960 --> 01:11:28,000
Speaker 5: Now go and have the most which I thought was wild.

1626
01:11:28,040 --> 01:11:30,479
Speaker 3: I thought Jake delom maybe or Steve Berline would have

1627
01:11:30,520 --> 01:11:33,200
Speaker 3: had it that is the most productive passing game in

1628
01:11:33,280 --> 01:11:35,479
Speaker 3: the history of the Panthers. Thirty one to forty five,

1629
01:11:35,520 --> 01:11:38,880
Speaker 3: four to forty eight, three touchdowns, no interceptions. You go

1630
01:11:38,960 --> 01:11:40,760
Speaker 3: back to the end of last year, if they beat

1631
01:11:40,760 --> 01:11:43,439
Speaker 3: Atlanta in Atlanta in a game that Atlanta needed to

1632
01:11:43,479 --> 01:11:46,000
Speaker 3: win to have an opportunity to go and win the division.

1633
01:11:46,040 --> 01:11:48,400
Speaker 3: Still yep, and he I think had five total touchdowns

1634
01:11:48,400 --> 01:11:50,479
Speaker 3: in that one. He is one of those guys like

1635
01:11:50,560 --> 01:11:52,840
Speaker 3: he does he should have been drafted to a Dome team,

1636
01:11:53,080 --> 01:11:54,640
Speaker 3: and I wonder what he looks like.

1637
01:11:54,840 --> 01:11:56,280
Speaker 5: He you can look at his splits.

1638
01:11:56,320 --> 01:11:59,160
Speaker 3: He plays much better in domes than he does n't

1639
01:11:59,280 --> 01:12:01,519
Speaker 3: And you wonder if he had gotten drafted by Houston

1640
01:12:01,560 --> 01:12:03,840
Speaker 3: the way it was supposed to work out, what does

1641
01:12:03,880 --> 01:12:06,600
Speaker 3: that look like for him there and for Houston. But

1642
01:12:06,960 --> 01:12:10,480
Speaker 3: you know McMillan eight for one point thirty two touchdowns,

1643
01:12:10,560 --> 01:12:14,679
Speaker 3: just they are incredible. This is Kirk Cousins is washed.

1644
01:12:15,080 --> 01:12:15,320
Speaker 4: Yep.

1645
01:12:16,080 --> 01:12:17,320
Speaker 5: Drake Lennon gets hurt in.

1646
01:12:17,200 --> 01:12:19,680
Speaker 3: This game, Yeah, which is he's He is one of

1647
01:12:19,720 --> 01:12:22,200
Speaker 3: the better not as much, not talked about as much

1648
01:12:22,200 --> 01:12:24,519
Speaker 3: as he should be receivers in the NFL, Drake London.

1649
01:12:25,120 --> 01:12:29,799
Speaker 3: But this is just an incredible, incredible winning, incredible performance

1650
01:12:29,840 --> 01:12:32,960
Speaker 3: by Bryce Young honestly to win this game over the

1651
01:12:33,000 --> 01:12:34,320
Speaker 3: Atlanta Falcons in overtime.

1652
01:12:34,360 --> 01:12:36,479
Speaker 2: And I do wonder from the Atlanta side, how many

1653
01:12:36,520 --> 01:12:41,120
Speaker 2: seasons in his football career as Michael Pennick started and finished.

1654
01:12:42,120 --> 01:12:45,160
Speaker 2: Because it is catastrophic injury. He had him at Indiana.

1655
01:12:45,320 --> 01:12:47,080
Speaker 2: I mean he's had him now. I mean, it's just

1656
01:12:47,400 --> 01:12:49,960
Speaker 2: he's very injury prone. He was an old quarterback when

1657
01:12:49,960 --> 01:12:52,880
Speaker 2: they drafted him. On the Carolina side, this might be

1658
01:12:52,920 --> 01:12:55,360
Speaker 2: the best football team in the history of football. They

1659
01:12:55,400 --> 01:12:58,479
Speaker 2: may never lose again. Boy, are you really? I mean, Nate,

1660
01:12:58,680 --> 01:13:01,000
Speaker 2: you were truck. Can you tell me if the eighty

1661
01:13:01,040 --> 01:13:02,760
Speaker 2: five Bears can beat this team. I don't think it

1662
01:13:02,840 --> 01:13:04,559
Speaker 2: saw him down. I think that's the best team that's

1663
01:13:04,760 --> 01:13:07,920
Speaker 2: trying reversis imagine some people said that this was a

1664
01:13:07,960 --> 01:13:11,320
Speaker 2: bad team. Some people said this is a bad football team. Yeah,

1665
01:13:11,360 --> 01:13:14,200
Speaker 2: they're six and five, brother, they're a half game out

1666
01:13:14,240 --> 01:13:17,280
Speaker 2: of first. Now that's their only path. They're probably not

1667
01:13:17,320 --> 01:13:19,439
Speaker 2: going to get there any other way. But if they

1668
01:13:19,680 --> 01:13:22,080
Speaker 2: they're only a half game out of Tampa Bay.

1669
01:13:21,920 --> 01:13:23,879
Speaker 4: Tampa Bay's lost to Bay struggling.

1670
01:13:23,960 --> 01:13:25,439
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, uh.

1671
01:13:25,720 --> 01:13:27,759
Speaker 4: Next, speaking of Tampa Bay. They lose.

1672
01:13:27,840 --> 01:13:30,200
Speaker 6: They've lost two in a row there, lead down to

1673
01:13:30,240 --> 01:13:34,439
Speaker 6: one game on Carolina Buffalo. I guess they got right,

1674
01:13:34,560 --> 01:13:36,200
Speaker 6: but it didn't look that way for a while. The

1675
01:13:36,280 --> 01:13:39,280
Speaker 6: Pools handled the Buccaneers forty four to thirty two.

1676
01:13:39,640 --> 01:13:42,000
Speaker 2: Bo Bishop, This was this was an easy one to

1677
01:13:42,000 --> 01:13:45,120
Speaker 2: predict in that you could see Buffalo is not the

1678
01:13:45,160 --> 01:13:47,200
Speaker 2: team that played in Miami, and you knew that they

1679
01:13:47,240 --> 01:13:48,920
Speaker 2: would get back home and get right. It was a

1680
01:13:48,960 --> 01:13:51,080
Speaker 2: get right game for the Bills. Absolutely. They almost hang

1681
01:13:51,160 --> 01:13:54,360
Speaker 2: half a hundred on this Buccaneers defense. Tampa Bay's really injured,

1682
01:13:54,400 --> 01:13:57,240
Speaker 2: but Bakes come off a lot. He's not playing as

1683
01:13:57,240 --> 01:13:59,920
Speaker 2: well as he was in September, so he's kind of

1684
01:14:00,360 --> 01:14:03,519
Speaker 2: back to kind of what he's been. And Buffalo is

1685
01:14:03,520 --> 01:14:05,559
Speaker 2: going to be a team of consequence. Of the teams

1686
01:14:05,560 --> 01:14:08,160
Speaker 2: that we expected to be there at the end of

1687
01:14:08,200 --> 01:14:10,559
Speaker 2: the AFC, they're the ones who look most capable.

1688
01:14:10,640 --> 01:14:13,320
Speaker 3: Right now, it feels like the league has kind of

1689
01:14:13,320 --> 01:14:15,200
Speaker 3: caught up a little bit with what they were doing

1690
01:14:15,240 --> 01:14:18,000
Speaker 3: as a passing offense. And I know Mike Evans has

1691
01:14:18,040 --> 01:14:20,519
Speaker 3: been hurt, that's true, but you know, Abuka, even just

1692
01:14:20,880 --> 01:14:24,360
Speaker 3: the last few games, they were still putting up bigger numbers. Yeah,

1693
01:14:24,400 --> 01:14:27,759
Speaker 3: you know, his last he's gone two twenty eight, two

1694
01:14:27,880 --> 01:14:30,320
Speaker 3: seventy three, one seventy three over his last four. At

1695
01:14:30,320 --> 01:14:32,439
Speaker 3: the beginning of the year, he was throwing for you know,

1696
01:14:32,720 --> 01:14:34,800
Speaker 3: more yardage, and he had a stretch where you know.

1697
01:14:34,720 --> 01:14:36,400
Speaker 5: Twoity nine, three seventy nine, all of that.

1698
01:14:36,560 --> 01:14:38,560
Speaker 3: So it's an interesting thing that's kind of happened a

1699
01:14:38,600 --> 01:14:41,559
Speaker 3: little bit to that passing game over kind of the

1700
01:14:41,640 --> 01:14:44,479
Speaker 3: last few we still playing solid. They still put up

1701
01:14:44,520 --> 01:14:46,400
Speaker 3: a lot of points. They ran it really well, which

1702
01:14:46,479 --> 01:14:49,400
Speaker 3: was very surprising to see in this one. The Buffalo

1703
01:14:49,400 --> 01:14:54,880
Speaker 3: Bills defense is not great. This Josh Allen, by the way,

1704
01:14:54,920 --> 01:14:56,840
Speaker 3: I hope Man Titaea was thought this was a good

1705
01:14:56,920 --> 01:14:58,559
Speaker 3: enough performance by Josh Allens.

1706
01:14:58,560 --> 01:14:59,040
Speaker 2: Six before.

1707
01:14:59,400 --> 01:15:01,880
Speaker 3: He's been waiting to see him be good, which he

1708
01:15:01,960 --> 01:15:06,559
Speaker 3: pretty have been quite good. This is I think kind

1709
01:15:06,600 --> 01:15:09,960
Speaker 3: of a Josh Allen makes them dangerous. But this is

1710
01:15:10,000 --> 01:15:11,800
Speaker 3: not as complete a team as they have had in

1711
01:15:11,840 --> 01:15:13,240
Speaker 3: recent years. I don't think this is as good of

1712
01:15:13,280 --> 01:15:15,120
Speaker 3: a Bills team as they've had in recent years.

1713
01:15:15,200 --> 01:15:17,559
Speaker 6: No, I don't know what the heck is going on

1714
01:15:17,600 --> 01:15:20,760
Speaker 6: with Bucky Irving. Yeah, I mean, but the fact that

1715
01:15:20,800 --> 01:15:23,920
Speaker 6: they never put him on IR his last game and

1716
01:15:23,960 --> 01:15:26,280
Speaker 6: the Tucker Kid had one hundred September twenty eighth.

1717
01:15:26,600 --> 01:15:29,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, it's weird, very strange.

1718
01:15:29,360 --> 01:15:30,519
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1719
01:15:30,600 --> 01:15:35,000
Speaker 6: Next, speaking of strange, Yeah, yet gross and very bad.

1720
01:15:35,200 --> 01:15:39,519
Speaker 6: In the Armpit of America, Jacksonville handles Los Angeles and

1721
01:15:39,560 --> 01:15:43,000
Speaker 6: the Chargers thirty five to six. The girl one thought

1722
01:15:43,080 --> 01:15:45,680
Speaker 6: on a strange Jacksonville.

1723
01:15:46,800 --> 01:15:49,400
Speaker 3: The NFL is a strange place. This is the second

1724
01:15:49,400 --> 01:15:51,120
Speaker 3: time I think the Chargers had to go to Florida

1725
01:15:51,160 --> 01:15:53,200
Speaker 3: in three weeks. They went to Miami member and they

1726
01:15:53,200 --> 01:15:55,040
Speaker 3: played a tough game there. Maybe that's just a tough

1727
01:15:55,560 --> 01:15:58,000
Speaker 3: trip for that team. Justin Herbert got knocked out of

1728
01:15:58,000 --> 01:15:59,960
Speaker 3: it and what was one on a hit that was

1729
01:16:00,080 --> 01:16:02,439
Speaker 3: one of the greatest, I mean the ww that would

1730
01:16:02,439 --> 01:16:03,920
Speaker 3: be one of the greatest spears you've ever seen.

1731
01:16:03,960 --> 01:16:05,679
Speaker 5: I mean literally lifted him off of his feet.

1732
01:16:05,720 --> 01:16:08,160
Speaker 3: It was nuts. He gets knocked out of that game.

1733
01:16:08,640 --> 01:16:10,160
Speaker 3: This is just an incredible.

1734
01:16:09,720 --> 01:16:11,679
Speaker 5: Egg from them, Like, I mean, they laid an egg.

1735
01:16:11,720 --> 01:16:14,719
Speaker 5: It's stunning. And the Jags somehow are six and four.

1736
01:16:15,400 --> 01:16:18,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, and no Brian Thomas, no Travis Hunter, and you

1737
01:16:18,800 --> 01:16:21,320
Speaker 2: know they're getting a lot out of it tend But yeah,

1738
01:16:21,360 --> 01:16:23,600
Speaker 2: somehow they and this isn't obviously, this isn't good for

1739
01:16:23,640 --> 01:16:26,800
Speaker 2: us because we own that pick. They it's not even

1740
01:16:26,800 --> 01:16:29,400
Speaker 2: to just beat the Chargers. They bombed them, bombed them.

1741
01:16:29,520 --> 01:16:31,360
Speaker 2: And that's the thing that was hard to wrap your

1742
01:16:31,400 --> 01:16:33,479
Speaker 2: head around. I thought that the Chargers were past that,

1743
01:16:34,160 --> 01:16:36,320
Speaker 2: and I guess ran it down their throat. I know it,

1744
01:16:36,360 --> 01:16:37,640
Speaker 2: I know it, and they I know they had a

1745
01:16:37,680 --> 01:16:39,439
Speaker 2: lot of injuries up front. I get it, But like,

1746
01:16:39,920 --> 01:16:42,200
Speaker 2: so does San Francisco like find a way to go

1747
01:16:42,280 --> 01:16:43,720
Speaker 2: be competitive in those games.

1748
01:16:44,360 --> 01:16:47,280
Speaker 6: There's a new leader up top the NFC North on

1749
01:16:47,600 --> 01:16:52,360
Speaker 6: the Chicago Bears. The Bears take down the Vikings nineteen seventeen.

1750
01:16:53,040 --> 01:16:55,120
Speaker 6: Bo Bishop One thought from you on this.

1751
01:16:55,000 --> 01:16:57,800
Speaker 2: One, Well, I did have I think at Chicago in

1752
01:16:57,840 --> 01:17:00,400
Speaker 2: the playoffs at the beginning of the year, and I

1753
01:17:00,760 --> 01:17:03,000
Speaker 2: thought that they would get going a little bit. I

1754
01:17:03,000 --> 01:17:05,120
Speaker 2: think the other side of it is what is interesting though,

1755
01:17:05,160 --> 01:17:10,479
Speaker 2: because it's it's early in his career. But it's rough

1756
01:17:10,479 --> 01:17:17,639
Speaker 2: for JJ mccarthyseason. No, probably not yet. I mean it's

1757
01:17:17,640 --> 01:17:20,879
Speaker 2: his first year. I mean, god almighty, they had Darnold

1758
01:17:21,080 --> 01:17:24,000
Speaker 2: in the building and I know why. I mean, you

1759
01:17:24,080 --> 01:17:25,679
Speaker 2: just think if they would have flipped it. If Quasy

1760
01:17:25,680 --> 01:17:27,839
Speaker 2: would have flipped it and put McCarthy on the market

1761
01:17:28,640 --> 01:17:30,600
Speaker 2: and traded and he would have gotten he would have

1762
01:17:30,600 --> 01:17:32,200
Speaker 2: got a lot, I think back, because a lot of

1763
01:17:32,240 --> 01:17:35,479
Speaker 2: people liked him. And not to say that JJ's not

1764
01:17:35,479 --> 01:17:37,360
Speaker 2: going to work it out, but so far it's been

1765
01:17:37,400 --> 01:17:38,080
Speaker 2: really rough for.

1766
01:17:38,080 --> 01:17:41,200
Speaker 4: Him, soa anything else.

1767
01:17:42,320 --> 01:17:46,080
Speaker 3: The Bears are kind of like the NFC Broncos. They

1768
01:17:46,280 --> 01:17:51,759
Speaker 3: just win games that feel improbable prior to them winning games,

1769
01:17:51,800 --> 01:17:53,559
Speaker 3: but they continue to do it and at some point

1770
01:17:53,960 --> 01:17:56,520
Speaker 3: that just becomes kind of their culture and it becomes

1771
01:17:56,560 --> 01:18:00,200
Speaker 3: some kind of they just believe and teams that half

1772
01:18:00,200 --> 01:18:03,200
Speaker 3: of that Cannabie line sixteen to thirty two, one ninety three,

1773
01:18:03,200 --> 01:18:05,320
Speaker 3: no touchdowns, no picks, ran for twenty six yards.

1774
01:18:05,360 --> 01:18:08,960
Speaker 2: I mean, there's there's nothing special, no, but they just

1775
01:18:09,120 --> 01:18:11,639
Speaker 2: DJ Moore doesn't do anything. I mean he has all

1776
01:18:11,760 --> 01:18:13,599
Speaker 2: your year, well nothing, they gave him all that money,

1777
01:18:13,640 --> 01:18:14,360
Speaker 2: he does he's nothing.

1778
01:18:14,720 --> 01:18:16,920
Speaker 5: They just find a way. They find a way they do.

1779
01:18:17,040 --> 01:18:20,960
Speaker 6: In speaking of another team, we talked about the Bills

1780
01:18:21,040 --> 01:18:23,280
Speaker 6: and not sure what they are and what they are

1781
01:18:23,479 --> 01:18:25,760
Speaker 6: the same thing can be said for the Green Bay Packers.

1782
01:18:26,200 --> 01:18:28,840
Speaker 6: Packers take down the g men twenty seven to twenty

1783
01:18:29,120 --> 01:18:32,360
Speaker 6: not pretty by any stretch of the imagination. But the

1784
01:18:32,400 --> 01:18:36,200
Speaker 6: Packers do improve to six three and one.

1785
01:18:36,080 --> 01:18:40,120
Speaker 2: Bo Bishop Packers are going to be fine. This is

1786
01:18:40,240 --> 01:18:42,120
Speaker 2: I want to ask you this. Did you see the

1787
01:18:42,439 --> 01:18:44,760
Speaker 2: wrestling last night or Monday night? It was Monday night?

1788
01:18:44,880 --> 01:18:45,519
Speaker 4: It was last night?

1789
01:18:45,600 --> 01:18:48,240
Speaker 2: Okay, thiscataboose stuff. Yeah, right, so let me let me

1790
01:18:48,280 --> 01:18:51,520
Speaker 2: ask you this, because you know how that business works.

1791
01:18:52,000 --> 01:18:55,439
Speaker 2: Obviously they were going to do something with him. He

1792
01:18:55,520 --> 01:19:00,280
Speaker 2: got shoved pretty hard. He's got a boot on. Do

1793
01:19:00,320 --> 01:19:03,040
Speaker 2: you think the giants that was communicated with the Giants?

1794
01:19:03,400 --> 01:19:05,800
Speaker 2: Do you think that that went further than Scataboo thought

1795
01:19:05,840 --> 01:19:07,600
Speaker 2: it was going to go. If you're the Giants, do

1796
01:19:07,680 --> 01:19:09,760
Speaker 2: you make a call and say, dude, what are you doing?

1797
01:19:12,400 --> 01:19:12,639
Speaker 5: Yes?

1798
01:19:12,720 --> 01:19:15,840
Speaker 3: I think to all of it. I think all of

1799
01:19:15,880 --> 01:19:19,519
Speaker 3: it is true. So Skataboo is at raw. He does

1800
01:19:19,560 --> 01:19:21,640
Speaker 3: get involved in a little bit of an altercation. He

1801
01:19:21,680 --> 01:19:25,160
Speaker 3: does get pushed in what was going on. And this

1802
01:19:25,200 --> 01:19:26,560
Speaker 3: is what Skatobo sad because he took a lot of

1803
01:19:26,560 --> 01:19:29,240
Speaker 3: criticism for this. Yeah, he said, hey, honestly, if you

1804
01:19:29,240 --> 01:19:30,800
Speaker 3: don't like it, I'm having a good time. While dealing

1805
01:19:30,840 --> 01:19:32,439
Speaker 3: with a tough time. Just go ahead and and follow

1806
01:19:32,479 --> 01:19:34,439
Speaker 3: and casually move on. I'm not able to play football

1807
01:19:34,439 --> 01:19:36,280
Speaker 3: and have the fun I've been have in my whole life,

1808
01:19:36,400 --> 01:19:37,960
Speaker 3: So I'm doing things outside the box to try to

1809
01:19:37,960 --> 01:19:39,560
Speaker 3: find stuff to keep me happy. Enjoy the rest of

1810
01:19:39,640 --> 01:19:41,160
Speaker 3: y'all's week, and don't talk about me. If you're not

1811
01:19:41,200 --> 01:19:43,920
Speaker 3: going to say anything nice. Oh well that'll go well,

1812
01:19:44,400 --> 01:19:46,360
Speaker 3: I'm sure that's yeah, that's gonna be well received. But

1813
01:19:47,320 --> 01:19:49,519
Speaker 3: I was the first thing and I saw it, and

1814
01:19:49,560 --> 01:19:52,720
Speaker 3: I was like, so, yes, he one hundred percent knew

1815
01:19:52,720 --> 01:19:55,120
Speaker 3: what was going to happen one hundred percent. You know,

1816
01:19:55,200 --> 01:19:56,559
Speaker 3: when you're in the heat of the moment in there

1817
01:19:56,680 --> 01:20:00,400
Speaker 3: anything like I went through what I went through. Yeah,

1818
01:20:00,400 --> 01:20:02,800
Speaker 3: and by Foura out there, you know what's going to happen.

1819
01:20:02,880 --> 01:20:05,759
Speaker 3: But oh yeah, you're gonna whip me into the guardrail. Okay,

1820
01:20:05,800 --> 01:20:08,000
Speaker 3: But until you get actually whipped into the guard on,

1821
01:20:08,120 --> 01:20:10,640
Speaker 3: people's adrenaline is there, so there's a little more on

1822
01:20:10,680 --> 01:20:11,920
Speaker 3: and you hit the guardrail like.

1823
01:20:12,920 --> 01:20:13,599
Speaker 5: You know what it is.

1824
01:20:14,240 --> 01:20:18,000
Speaker 3: But yeah, so I thought it was a little risky

1825
01:20:18,160 --> 01:20:20,280
Speaker 3: given that he had a broken ankle that he could

1826
01:20:20,320 --> 01:20:23,320
Speaker 3: have ra like, but he's fine, obviously.

1827
01:20:23,760 --> 01:20:24,280
Speaker 5: I would be.

1828
01:20:28,280 --> 01:20:30,360
Speaker 3: I think he should have told them that he was

1829
01:20:30,400 --> 01:20:33,559
Speaker 3: going to do that. Now, had he gotten hurt there,

1830
01:20:33,640 --> 01:20:37,040
Speaker 3: that would have caused problems and probably voided some things

1831
01:20:37,040 --> 01:20:41,640
Speaker 3: in his contract. Yeah, but I'm sure they knew he

1832
01:20:41,720 --> 01:20:44,040
Speaker 3: was going to be there that I'm sure those tickets

1833
01:20:44,040 --> 01:20:47,840
Speaker 3: were because it was he was a couple of giants. Yeah,

1834
01:20:47,840 --> 01:20:52,160
Speaker 3: those tickets are gotten through their contact with WWE. So yeah,

1835
01:20:52,160 --> 01:20:53,960
Speaker 3: I think the Giants were ware he was there, and

1836
01:20:54,000 --> 01:20:56,640
Speaker 3: they're probably ware that there was going to be a confrontation.

1837
01:20:56,800 --> 01:20:57,559
Speaker 5: But I don't know that.

1838
01:20:58,800 --> 01:21:04,080
Speaker 3: Again, in those moments, it it's like it's it is real. Yeah,

1839
01:21:04,520 --> 01:21:06,559
Speaker 3: So you don't know. I just think I'm very happy

1840
01:21:06,560 --> 01:21:08,840
Speaker 3: that he didn't get hurt. We've seen guys go in there.

1841
01:21:08,880 --> 01:21:12,240
Speaker 3: Brunson has done it, Halliburton's done it. We've seen plenty

1842
01:21:12,240 --> 01:21:14,280
Speaker 3: of guys go in there and get involved in little

1843
01:21:14,479 --> 01:21:15,400
Speaker 3: things here or there.

1844
01:21:15,760 --> 01:21:17,920
Speaker 5: He can't play. He isn't out for the season, so

1845
01:21:17,960 --> 01:21:18,760
Speaker 5: it's not like he could.

1846
01:21:18,920 --> 01:21:19,040
Speaker 4: No.

1847
01:21:19,040 --> 01:21:20,640
Speaker 2: No, I just was curious. I knew you knew the

1848
01:21:20,680 --> 01:21:22,679
Speaker 2: inner workings of it, and I just was curious about

1849
01:21:22,720 --> 01:21:24,160
Speaker 2: the process, how all of that happened.

1850
01:21:24,200 --> 01:21:29,160
Speaker 3: There is no doubt that that confrontation was discussed going

1851
01:21:29,200 --> 01:21:31,439
Speaker 3: to happen. That's why the cameras are right where they

1852
01:21:31,439 --> 01:21:33,240
Speaker 3: need to be all of it.

1853
01:21:33,840 --> 01:21:34,439
Speaker 5: But you never know.

1854
01:21:34,520 --> 01:21:36,040
Speaker 3: Yea, it's probably gonna be like here getting his face,

1855
01:21:36,160 --> 01:21:38,320
Speaker 3: you're gonna shove him, you know, maybe he's gonna shove

1856
01:21:38,320 --> 01:21:41,640
Speaker 3: you back, right, But when it happens, it happens like

1857
01:21:41,680 --> 01:21:45,960
Speaker 3: it's yeah, yeah, couple. Now, when I got send the guardrail,

1858
01:21:46,000 --> 01:21:48,360
Speaker 3: it was much harder than I had anticipated Getgs into

1859
01:21:48,400 --> 01:21:49,240
Speaker 3: the guardrails.

1860
01:21:49,520 --> 01:21:52,880
Speaker 4: I can tell you that a few newsy notes from

1861
01:21:52,920 --> 01:21:53,800
Speaker 4: our football team.

1862
01:21:53,840 --> 01:21:57,639
Speaker 6: We placed Dom Jones on injured reserve yep with a knee,

1863
01:21:57,680 --> 01:22:01,280
Speaker 6: and we've also waved wide receiver Cayden Davis there you go.

1864
01:22:02,920 --> 01:22:05,080
Speaker 3: So, I mean, and obviously I think he'll come back

1865
01:22:05,120 --> 01:22:07,320
Speaker 3: to the practice squad, but it's just so odd that

1866
01:22:07,600 --> 01:22:10,120
Speaker 3: he was one game, yeah, put.

1867
01:22:09,920 --> 01:22:11,640
Speaker 5: On the roster when he could have just kept him

1868
01:22:11,680 --> 01:22:12,440
Speaker 5: on the practice.

1869
01:22:12,120 --> 01:22:14,479
Speaker 4: Squad because you go on a call up three times.

1870
01:22:14,600 --> 01:22:15,799
Speaker 5: Yeah right exactly.

1871
01:22:15,960 --> 01:22:23,759
Speaker 6: So yeah, okay, moving on AFC North the Squealers thirty

1872
01:22:23,800 --> 01:22:26,080
Speaker 6: four the Bengals twelve.

1873
01:22:26,439 --> 01:22:27,599
Speaker 4: Zigura one thought.

1874
01:22:29,479 --> 01:22:33,400
Speaker 5: Couple things. Number one, this was just this was one

1875
01:22:33,400 --> 01:22:34,200
Speaker 5: of those games.

1876
01:22:34,000 --> 01:22:37,200
Speaker 3: Where you're like, okay, maybe the not that the magic

1877
01:22:37,240 --> 01:22:39,200
Speaker 3: has gone, but a couple, you know, throw a couple

1878
01:22:39,400 --> 01:22:40,519
Speaker 3: of pick six right.

1879
01:22:40,640 --> 01:22:42,080
Speaker 2: I think his shoulders hurt.

1880
01:22:42,240 --> 01:22:44,120
Speaker 3: He's you saw it earlier in the game when he

1881
01:22:44,160 --> 01:22:46,479
Speaker 3: took that one hit and it did appear that way.

1882
01:22:49,439 --> 01:22:52,040
Speaker 3: I'll say this, I think that the Steelers are maybe

1883
01:22:52,040 --> 01:22:54,160
Speaker 3: a little bit dangerous throwing more dangerous throwing the football

1884
01:22:54,200 --> 01:22:56,120
Speaker 3: right now with Mason Rudolph because he's willing to hold

1885
01:22:56,120 --> 01:22:57,599
Speaker 3: it and he's willing to throw it down the field,

1886
01:22:57,920 --> 01:23:00,839
Speaker 3: and I think that can make them a little more dangerous.

1887
01:23:00,880 --> 01:23:03,639
Speaker 3: I also was watching live. We were in the booth

1888
01:23:04,200 --> 01:23:06,720
Speaker 3: when Darnell Washington had the run where he sifted on

1889
01:23:06,840 --> 01:23:11,360
Speaker 3: one guy. Geno Smith then made a business decision Stone

1890
01:23:11,400 --> 01:23:14,280
Speaker 3: Gino Soone. I'm sorry, yeah, I made a business decision. Well,

1891
01:23:14,320 --> 01:23:16,160
Speaker 3: Gino Smith made have made some business decisions, but they

1892
01:23:16,160 --> 01:23:17,280
Speaker 3: were not good ones.

1893
01:23:17,600 --> 01:23:18,880
Speaker 5: Genostone made a business decision.

1894
01:23:18,920 --> 01:23:20,519
Speaker 3: And then at the end, I think it was Turner

1895
01:23:20,560 --> 01:23:23,200
Speaker 3: tries to punch out and he literally just trucks him,

1896
01:23:23,360 --> 01:23:24,120
Speaker 3: runs him over.

1897
01:23:24,439 --> 01:23:26,920
Speaker 2: And I remember saying, I said, I go.

1898
01:23:27,439 --> 01:23:28,760
Speaker 5: I was like, I go, that's going to be the

1899
01:23:28,800 --> 01:23:29,280
Speaker 5: angry run.

1900
01:23:29,360 --> 01:23:31,600
Speaker 3: So this is the first time ever, because Luke and

1901
01:23:31,680 --> 01:23:33,559
Speaker 3: I watch Good Morning Football every morning.

1902
01:23:33,600 --> 01:23:34,080
Speaker 2: He loves it.

1903
01:23:35,439 --> 01:23:37,639
Speaker 3: So then there's always three nominees for the angry run,

1904
01:23:37,680 --> 01:23:40,160
Speaker 3: and it was all three parts of that. So it

1905
01:23:40,200 --> 01:23:44,360
Speaker 3: was first the stiff arm, second was the genostone business decision.

1906
01:23:44,400 --> 01:23:46,040
Speaker 3: Then third was when he ran the guy over again.

1907
01:23:46,080 --> 01:23:47,240
Speaker 3: He was trying to punch the ball out and then

1908
01:23:47,280 --> 01:23:49,519
Speaker 3: stood over him. And so obviously he won the angry

1909
01:23:49,600 --> 01:23:50,880
Speaker 3: run this week, but that was when you saw it

1910
01:23:50,880 --> 01:23:52,519
Speaker 3: in real time, and I think it's cool. The Kyle

1911
01:23:52,600 --> 01:23:54,160
Speaker 3: Brand's kind of created that where you look at that

1912
01:23:54,200 --> 01:23:55,680
Speaker 3: and you're like, oh, that's going to be the run,

1913
01:23:55,720 --> 01:23:57,680
Speaker 3: and you knew it, and most certainly it was.

1914
01:23:58,120 --> 01:24:01,360
Speaker 2: Yeah. From the Cincinnati side, Taylor had a press conference

1915
01:24:01,439 --> 01:24:04,040
Speaker 2: yesterday in Cincinnati that sounds like Joe Burrow's going to

1916
01:24:04,080 --> 01:24:08,400
Speaker 2: try and play next Thursday. Baltimore. Yes, I have no

1917
01:24:08,760 --> 01:24:12,240
Speaker 2: idea what they're doing, and I just question, like who

1918
01:24:12,360 --> 01:24:16,880
Speaker 2: down there could keep Joe out. Probably only ownership maybe

1919
01:24:16,920 --> 01:24:19,240
Speaker 2: that's it. But I and I look, he's a professional

1920
01:24:19,280 --> 01:24:21,679
Speaker 2: football player, player hit it. But like at the same time,

1921
01:24:21,840 --> 01:24:24,920
Speaker 2: like if he this will be his sixth NFL season,

1922
01:24:25,200 --> 01:24:27,760
Speaker 2: He's had three healthy seasons and three seasons that have

1923
01:24:27,840 --> 01:24:32,000
Speaker 2: ended because of injury prematurely, like Holy smokes, punt on

1924
01:24:32,080 --> 01:24:35,360
Speaker 2: this thing, punt on it. Also, Jamar Chase is appealing

1925
01:24:35,400 --> 01:24:38,280
Speaker 2: this spit thing, saying that if he was trying to

1926
01:24:38,280 --> 01:24:40,120
Speaker 2: spit on him, to spit on his face, not on

1927
01:24:40,160 --> 01:24:44,120
Speaker 2: his jersey. Like, dude, there's two hundred cameras. What it's

1928
01:24:44,160 --> 01:24:45,240
Speaker 2: a Louis, it's a lugi.

1929
01:24:45,320 --> 01:24:46,920
Speaker 5: I mean at him.

1930
01:24:47,000 --> 01:24:47,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, of course.

1931
01:24:47,680 --> 01:24:49,479
Speaker 5: The one thing I'll say for the Burrow thing is

1932
01:24:51,840 --> 01:24:52,639
Speaker 5: he is of a play.

1933
01:24:52,680 --> 01:24:56,639
Speaker 3: He wants to play, and it's always a risk whenever

1934
01:24:56,720 --> 01:24:59,840
Speaker 3: he does play. I just think I don't know if

1935
01:24:59,880 --> 01:25:01,400
Speaker 3: he he's ready and he wants to go, but they

1936
01:25:01,400 --> 01:25:02,719
Speaker 3: would be better off with the pick.

1937
01:25:03,520 --> 01:25:04,080
Speaker 5: They would be.

1938
01:25:04,280 --> 01:25:06,640
Speaker 2: You're gonna say that's done now they blew it. You

1939
01:25:06,680 --> 01:25:09,719
Speaker 2: blew it boy. He has shown the ability to trade Hendrickson.

1940
01:25:10,200 --> 01:25:11,160
Speaker 2: I have no idea.

1941
01:25:11,240 --> 01:25:13,200
Speaker 3: He's showed the ability by the way to come back

1942
01:25:13,200 --> 01:25:15,599
Speaker 3: from shortened seasons and be very good, So it's not

1943
01:25:15,680 --> 01:25:17,880
Speaker 3: like he needs the work. For example, he didn't finish

1944
01:25:17,920 --> 01:25:19,840
Speaker 3: the twenty three season. Now this would be the shortest

1945
01:25:19,840 --> 01:25:21,639
Speaker 3: season of all. He's always pay at least ten games

1946
01:25:21,640 --> 01:25:23,840
Speaker 3: a season, so maybe he he says, Look, I don't

1947
01:25:23,840 --> 01:25:24,200
Speaker 3: want to have.

1948
01:25:24,160 --> 01:25:26,240
Speaker 5: A whole year away from playing football.

1949
01:25:26,360 --> 01:25:28,320
Speaker 2: You can't help but feel like I feel like this

1950
01:25:28,400 --> 01:25:30,880
Speaker 2: that his career minus. You know, he's missed a lot

1951
01:25:30,880 --> 01:25:33,519
Speaker 2: of games. It just feels like Dan Marino, like he

1952
01:25:33,520 --> 01:25:35,559
Speaker 2: gets to the Super Bowl early, loses it and then

1953
01:25:35,640 --> 01:25:36,360
Speaker 2: never gets back.

1954
01:25:37,280 --> 01:25:42,240
Speaker 3: He's this is I this is the reality he has

1955
01:25:42,400 --> 01:25:46,000
Speaker 3: to as soon as he is truly able to get

1956
01:25:46,040 --> 01:25:48,280
Speaker 3: out of there. And I think he probably understands that.

1957
01:25:48,520 --> 01:25:50,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's twenty nine, he'll be twenty nine next month.

1958
01:25:50,880 --> 01:25:52,519
Speaker 5: He's gonna be good till he's forty if he can.

1959
01:25:52,560 --> 01:25:54,040
Speaker 4: The way he plays, I don't know about that.

1960
01:25:54,160 --> 01:25:54,960
Speaker 2: It's got to stay.

1961
01:25:54,800 --> 01:25:57,040
Speaker 3: Upright, yes, But the way I'm just saying, this style,

1962
01:25:57,120 --> 01:25:59,200
Speaker 3: what makes him a good quarterback will translate for another

1963
01:25:59,360 --> 01:26:00,200
Speaker 3: decade role.

1964
01:26:00,240 --> 01:26:03,000
Speaker 2: We need to go ahead and get out of that situation.

1965
01:26:03,560 --> 01:26:05,400
Speaker 6: I'm not even going to ask you for one thought

1966
01:26:05,400 --> 01:26:07,240
Speaker 6: on Texans Titans. It was a gross game.

1967
01:26:07,439 --> 01:26:08,360
Speaker 4: It was the.

1968
01:26:08,400 --> 01:26:10,240
Speaker 5: Texans want to go ahead and lose that game if

1969
01:26:10,240 --> 01:26:11,240
Speaker 5: they're going to play that poorly.

1970
01:26:11,360 --> 01:26:15,240
Speaker 6: Yep, exactly, late window forty nine Ers take down the

1971
01:26:15,240 --> 01:26:19,320
Speaker 6: Cardinals forty one to twenty two. Jacobe Brissett forty seven

1972
01:26:19,439 --> 01:26:23,439
Speaker 6: completions geez, a real lousing effort, an NFL record, Yeah,

1973
01:26:24,760 --> 01:26:25,280
Speaker 6: and fifty two.

1974
01:26:25,200 --> 01:26:27,879
Speaker 2: Yards and they scored twenty two and lost by three scores.

1975
01:26:28,040 --> 01:26:32,760
Speaker 3: He throw two picks and by the way, they had

1976
01:26:32,800 --> 01:26:35,840
Speaker 3: ten points through three quarters. They got two touchdowns late.

1977
01:26:36,680 --> 01:26:38,800
Speaker 3: This was a game that was so lost. So our

1978
01:26:38,840 --> 01:26:41,640
Speaker 3: game was late. And then you had rams Seahawks l

1979
01:26:42,479 --> 01:26:44,439
Speaker 3: and you had the Chiefs and the Broncos late. So

1980
01:26:44,520 --> 01:26:46,880
Speaker 3: I this was never even on red zone. I mean,

1981
01:26:46,920 --> 01:26:49,720
Speaker 3: this was just this game was played in a closet. Yeah,

1982
01:26:49,720 --> 01:26:53,160
Speaker 3: brock Party's back efficient nineteen to twenty six, two hundred yards,

1983
01:26:53,160 --> 01:26:56,760
Speaker 3: three touchdowns, no picks. Kittle scored twice. McCaffrey scored three

1984
01:26:56,800 --> 01:26:57,760
Speaker 3: touchdowns in this game.

1985
01:26:57,800 --> 01:26:59,000
Speaker 2: Pedro still think he's washed.

1986
01:26:59,000 --> 01:27:01,519
Speaker 5: He still thinks, yeah, he's He's just not the same

1987
01:27:01,560 --> 01:27:02,240
Speaker 5: as he once was.

1988
01:27:03,439 --> 01:27:03,960
Speaker 2: None of us are.

1989
01:27:04,040 --> 01:27:06,120
Speaker 3: He averaged six point two yards to Kerry Robinson, who

1990
01:27:06,120 --> 01:27:07,680
Speaker 3: my dad wants to get every carry average three.

1991
01:27:07,920 --> 01:27:08,679
Speaker 5: It's just it's nuts.

1992
01:27:08,720 --> 01:27:12,880
Speaker 3: But the Niners are. The Niners are formidable. It's they're

1993
01:27:12,920 --> 01:27:16,360
Speaker 3: just never gonna have what they need. Defensively, I think

1994
01:27:16,400 --> 01:27:19,839
Speaker 3: to make a run. So Jacoby Brissett. We know him

1995
01:27:20,320 --> 01:27:23,800
Speaker 3: somewhat mobile, Yeah, not the most mobile. He threw it

1996
01:27:23,880 --> 01:27:25,800
Speaker 3: drop back fifty two times and he threw it or

1997
01:27:25,840 --> 01:27:28,120
Speaker 3: fifty seven times he ran twice, so we'll call it

1998
01:27:28,160 --> 01:27:32,360
Speaker 3: probably fifty nine times zero six.

1999
01:27:33,240 --> 01:27:35,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, they do not have a pass rush at all

2000
01:27:35,920 --> 01:27:36,280
Speaker 5: at all.

2001
01:27:36,439 --> 01:27:39,040
Speaker 2: And that's gonna that'll get him. That's gonna get especially

2002
01:27:39,040 --> 01:27:39,920
Speaker 2: when we do the next game.

2003
01:27:40,520 --> 01:27:45,160
Speaker 6: Next real quick, ram It twenty one, Seahawks nineteen, bobishious.

2004
01:27:45,200 --> 01:27:48,120
Speaker 2: Both these teams can win the Super Bowl. Y Seattle

2005
01:27:48,840 --> 01:27:51,200
Speaker 2: had the ball, had a kick from sixty one yards

2006
01:27:51,240 --> 01:27:54,160
Speaker 2: albeit to win it in a game where Sam Darnold

2007
01:27:54,200 --> 01:27:55,920
Speaker 2: threw four picks. That's you know, you're good and the

2008
01:27:56,000 --> 01:27:58,599
Speaker 2: Rams are just legit. Like, both those teams can win it. Seeh,

2009
01:27:58,640 --> 01:28:01,720
Speaker 2: I disagree totally. I think Rammit can win it.

2010
01:28:01,920 --> 01:28:04,360
Speaker 6: I think Seahawks as long as they have Sam Darnold,

2011
01:28:04,840 --> 01:28:05,639
Speaker 6: I don't think they can.

2012
01:28:06,280 --> 01:28:08,599
Speaker 2: That's fair. I mean there's a he's gotta prove he's

2013
01:28:08,600 --> 01:28:10,280
Speaker 2: got to prove it. He's got to prove it. But

2014
01:28:10,400 --> 01:28:13,120
Speaker 2: show me, man, they're good. They are very good.

2015
01:28:14,200 --> 01:28:20,200
Speaker 6: H Next the Broncos twenty two, Kansas City nineteen.

2016
01:28:21,320 --> 01:28:23,040
Speaker 2: You know what was The craziest thing about this one.

2017
01:28:23,080 --> 01:28:26,439
Speaker 2: Did you see bow Knicks postgame? They got a good

2018
01:28:26,439 --> 01:28:27,120
Speaker 2: team over there?

2019
01:28:29,360 --> 01:28:30,800
Speaker 4: What are you doing? Are you kidding me?

2020
01:28:31,000 --> 01:28:33,080
Speaker 2: I don't know. Like they got a good team over there.

2021
01:28:33,200 --> 01:28:35,760
Speaker 2: They came in here and fought like, yeah, they've won

2022
01:28:35,800 --> 01:28:38,320
Speaker 2: three Super Bowls, but they were in it last year.

2023
01:28:38,800 --> 01:28:40,479
Speaker 2: I mean that was I just blew my mind. Like

2024
01:28:40,520 --> 01:28:42,800
Speaker 2: his comments on that, Sean Payton can still coach it.

2025
01:28:43,640 --> 01:28:46,519
Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes pop quiz. How many games over three hundred

2026
01:28:46,560 --> 01:28:47,559
Speaker 2: yards does he have this season?

2027
01:28:47,600 --> 01:28:48,519
Speaker 5: I'm gonna say zero.

2028
01:28:50,120 --> 01:28:51,519
Speaker 4: No, I'm gonna say two.

2029
01:28:52,160 --> 01:28:54,599
Speaker 2: Meet in the middle. One is one game this season

2030
01:28:54,600 --> 01:28:56,360
Speaker 2: where he's thrown for three hundred yards. I know he

2031
01:28:56,400 --> 01:28:59,800
Speaker 2: completed his passes a little more than that. In Buffalo

2032
01:29:00,080 --> 01:29:02,840
Speaker 2: really struggled last week. Something is not right with them.

2033
01:29:03,120 --> 01:29:04,400
Speaker 5: I gotta ask you guys a question.

2034
01:29:04,439 --> 01:29:07,519
Speaker 3: So taekwon Thornton when Xavier Worthy and Rashi Rice were hurt,

2035
01:29:07,520 --> 01:29:10,639
Speaker 3: played a little bit for them. He had his first

2036
01:29:10,640 --> 01:29:13,000
Speaker 3: catch in this game that he's had in a long time.

2037
01:29:13,040 --> 01:29:15,360
Speaker 3: In fact, he's only had two catches since Week five.

2038
01:29:15,920 --> 01:29:19,400
Speaker 3: Those two catches have gone for one hundred yards. He's

2039
01:29:19,479 --> 01:29:21,960
Speaker 3: averaging for them. He has fifteen catches for three hundred

2040
01:29:22,000 --> 01:29:23,559
Speaker 3: and seventy two yards. They everage in twenty four point

2041
01:29:23,640 --> 01:29:26,439
Speaker 3: eight yards per catch. Like, that's your guy to do

2042
01:29:26,520 --> 01:29:27,960
Speaker 3: all things, so let him play.

2043
01:29:28,160 --> 01:29:29,240
Speaker 2: I don't know, Yeah, I don't know. What to do

2044
01:29:29,280 --> 01:29:29,840
Speaker 2: is keep.

2045
01:29:29,680 --> 01:29:32,439
Speaker 3: Trying out Juju Smith, Schuster, I don't know who is

2046
01:29:32,640 --> 01:29:35,160
Speaker 3: can't move Like so if you had that guy Rice

2047
01:29:35,280 --> 01:29:37,200
Speaker 3: Worthy out there, Kelsey is the tight end and you're

2048
01:29:37,200 --> 01:29:39,960
Speaker 3: eleven percent like that guy could clearly run and make

2049
01:29:40,000 --> 01:29:40,559
Speaker 3: big plays.

2050
01:29:40,720 --> 01:29:42,680
Speaker 2: So that's all you wanted, that's all you want. But

2051
01:29:42,680 --> 01:29:45,080
Speaker 2: they don't play him. They don't. Yeah, something's not right

2052
01:29:45,120 --> 01:29:46,040
Speaker 2: with the pass game there.

2053
01:29:46,560 --> 01:29:49,840
Speaker 6: In our final minute here Sunday Night foosball, the Eagles

2054
01:29:49,880 --> 01:29:52,240
Speaker 6: take on the Lions sixteen to nine.

2055
01:29:52,280 --> 01:29:54,799
Speaker 4: Does the road still go through Philly in the NFC?

2056
01:29:55,080 --> 01:29:58,120
Speaker 3: It's there. They are fractured, but they are winning. I mean,

2057
01:29:58,160 --> 01:29:59,400
Speaker 3: they tried to force the ball to a J.

2058
01:29:59,520 --> 01:29:59,720
Speaker 2: Brown.

2059
01:29:59,720 --> 01:30:00,479
Speaker 5: AJ Brown.

2060
01:30:00,520 --> 01:30:03,519
Speaker 3: I feel like some he's in that style of receiver

2061
01:30:03,560 --> 01:30:05,000
Speaker 3: maybe kind of what happened to Amor where you can

2062
01:30:05,040 --> 01:30:07,000
Speaker 3: go from twelve hundred and fifty yards to out of

2063
01:30:07,000 --> 01:30:08,519
Speaker 3: the league in a year. And I'm gonna say AJ

2064
01:30:08,560 --> 01:30:10,640
Speaker 3: Bren's on his way out, but he's not creating any separation.

2065
01:30:10,920 --> 01:30:14,000
Speaker 3: Sometimes those physical guys, when it goes just even a percent,

2066
01:30:14,400 --> 01:30:16,200
Speaker 3: it wipes out everything that they can do. And he

2067
01:30:16,280 --> 01:30:19,040
Speaker 3: is really struggling. Dan Campbell at some point has to

2068
01:30:19,120 --> 01:30:23,280
Speaker 3: kind of reevaluate. I think he has to understand situation.

2069
01:30:23,640 --> 01:30:27,280
Speaker 3: Like over five team was not scoring thirty points. Right,

2070
01:30:27,439 --> 01:30:29,960
Speaker 3: kick some fields and put a little pressure on them.

2071
01:30:30,080 --> 01:30:32,280
Speaker 3: They did it twice in the red area. The wind

2072
01:30:32,439 --> 01:30:34,000
Speaker 3: was bad, but you're in the red zone. But come on,

2073
01:30:34,040 --> 01:30:36,559
Speaker 3: you're the one he was on the five yard line. Yeah,

2074
01:30:36,720 --> 01:30:38,920
Speaker 3: just kick the thing and make it a one score

2075
01:30:39,000 --> 01:30:41,280
Speaker 3: game and and you give yourself a little life.

2076
01:30:41,479 --> 01:30:44,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Philly wasn't scoring. Gough is another one.

2077
01:30:44,760 --> 01:30:47,120
Speaker 3: That's that's an important game for them because Gough is

2078
01:30:47,120 --> 01:30:50,080
Speaker 3: better indoors than he is outdoors, and he struggled in

2079
01:30:50,080 --> 01:30:51,920
Speaker 3: that win. Right there, I'm on Ross Saint Brown's targeted

2080
01:30:51,920 --> 01:30:53,920
Speaker 3: twelve times a game, caught two of them. That is

2081
01:30:53,960 --> 01:30:56,240
Speaker 3: the worst outing of his career.

2082
01:30:56,400 --> 01:30:59,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, that is one thought. Week eleven in the National

2083
01:30:59,160 --> 01:30:59,880
Speaker 6: Football League and.

2084
01:31:00,080 --> 01:31:01,599
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2085
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