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Speaker 1: Hi everyone. I'm Rachel Zoe and I'm Roger Berman, and

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Speaker 1: you're listening to works Cross, where we talk to people

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Speaker 1: about what works for them in their relationships and of

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Speaker 1: course what doesn't. Okay, So we've done an episode or

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Speaker 1: two about raising boys and all of the specifics about

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Speaker 1: being a boy mom, but we actually haven't addressed all

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Speaker 1: the incredible parents out there who are raising insanely extraordinary

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Speaker 1: girls as well. Today's guests, Sean and Serena Levy, have

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Speaker 1: the joy of raising four phenomenal young women. I can

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Speaker 1: say that firsthand. And they're the most purehearted, family first

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Speaker 1: people you actually could ever know. And we're lucky enough

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Speaker 1: to actually know them very well, as I'm sure our

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Speaker 1: listeners know. Sean Levy is a highly sought after producer

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Speaker 1: and director of hit films and TV series like Free Guy,

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Speaker 1: and of course Stranger Things if you've ever heard of it.

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Speaker 1: Serena Levy's absolutely stunning, extraordinary, insanely amazing life. Has practiced

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Speaker 1: as an early childhood development specialist, which of course makes

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Speaker 1: sense working individually with young children and families, both privately

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Speaker 1: She has also served as an individual, couples and families counselor,

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Speaker 1: both privately and at Southern California Counseling Center. I like

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Speaker 1: to refer to Serena as the CEO of the Leavy Family,

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Speaker 1: which is actually kind. I think I'm going to order

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Speaker 1: right when we're done. I actually when I first met Serena,

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Speaker 1: how on earth do you raise such extraordinary women, girls

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Speaker 1: I think they're just like special girls. And I think,

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Speaker 1: you know, our listeners don't really understand what we're talking about,

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Speaker 1: but there's a certain person, you know, child that sort

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Speaker 1: to in their own world of narcissism if you will.

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Speaker 1: I think what Sean and Sreena have done a really

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Speaker 1: I don't I don't know how else to explain it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but they're present yeah here, Yeah, at all different and unique.

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Speaker 1: That's that's the crazy thing. Um. First of all, thank you, Roger,

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Speaker 1: because that's the biggest conflict, and it might be our

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Speaker 1: that's a resonant idea for you personally. It's our greatest product.

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Speaker 1: So thank you. It's nice to that reflected back. I actually,

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Speaker 1: funny enough, didn't know until recently that Serena actually was

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Speaker 1: like early childhood therapist. Because maybe that's why Serena and

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Speaker 1: career path. It's one that requires no education, well, different

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Speaker 1: But we do like to share with our listeners a

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Speaker 1: it up? All right, guys? So true story. A few

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Speaker 1: halloweens ago, I'm going to say maybe five years ago,

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Speaker 1: I have my own title. It's called Chief Transportation Officer.

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Speaker 1: So that's what I'm calling the CTO here professional pack meal. Um. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: have the happiest marriage. Sean, have you ever been on

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Speaker 1: all the time. If you remove denim, guys, you lose

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Speaker 1: overweight suitcase? Then to have to unpack in public. Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, no, no, no. They wouldn't take it because

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Speaker 1: we beat you four girls and me five. I cannot sean.

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Speaker 1: I hear you, Sewan Hoddre. I just don't fight it anymore.

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Speaker 1: be juicy. I could tell Sean was a way out

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Speaker 1: that doesn't date us. Yeah, we are like twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: ordered it from like Florida, it was like the biggest

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00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:45,880
Speaker 1: diamond I could afford, which was not very much at all.

425
00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:48,160
Speaker 1: It was not a wow ring. I was going to ask,

426
00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:50,520
Speaker 1: were you already like Sean Levy at this point or

427
00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:53,520
Speaker 1: now I was a film student. I was a student

428
00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:58,240
Speaker 1: got it well? No, I had well, I had paid

429
00:24:58,359 --> 00:25:00,399
Speaker 1: for film school by like doing I know, two and

430
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:03,760
Speaker 1: twenty one Jump Street and I was like just all time,

431
00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:07,240
Speaker 1: by the way, thank you, um, but I really wanted

432
00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:10,840
Speaker 1: to be something else, and I was going to film school.

433
00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:14,200
Speaker 1: So that's that's all I was. I Serena had job, job,

434
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:17,760
Speaker 1: Serena was making money. I was not. I was like

435
00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:24,800
Speaker 1: going to the gym on a Tuesday. Literally, this is martifying.

436
00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:27,960
Speaker 1: When I would take Serena on a movie date, I

437
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:33,199
Speaker 1: would microwave the popcorn in my apartment, smuggle it in

438
00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:40,359
Speaker 1: a back back. Yes, that's you, by the way, that's like,

439
00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:44,879
Speaker 1: that's Rachel and I. We freaking taped her invoices like yeah,

440
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:48,000
Speaker 1: you you grew up together poor and then and then

441
00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:50,439
Speaker 1: not that is the best. And I tell that I

442
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:53,800
Speaker 1: know so many people in my field and in my

443
00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:56,440
Speaker 1: line of work, and I'm like, you, I know that

444
00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:59,680
Speaker 1: like the thrill of the like new and the thrill

445
00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:03,000
Speaker 1: of being a somebody and all that, that's low hanging fruit. Yeah,

446
00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:06,280
Speaker 1: but no one feels is pretty great is climbing the

447
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:11,240
Speaker 1: mountain with someone for moments where you go, babe, what

448
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:15,560
Speaker 1: we did We probably look, we made five thousand dollars

449
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:18,520
Speaker 1: on that blah blah blah. Like when you have somebody

450
00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:22,440
Speaker 1: to share the ascent with, yeah, it really it's satisfying.

451
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:25,320
Speaker 1: But that's a real intimacy and I know you understand that. Yeah, no,

452
00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:28,199
Speaker 1: I do. I'm trying to get Rachel to smell the

453
00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:29,919
Speaker 1: flowers a little more. When I tell her, I'm like,

454
00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:33,480
Speaker 1: look look around. She's like, we have no money, we're poor.

455
00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:36,920
Speaker 1: I hate you, and I'm like, what more or less?

456
00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:40,159
Speaker 1: More or less? I'm like, okay, well we have this,

457
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:43,240
Speaker 1: and I just wanted to know when I say that's

458
00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:46,280
Speaker 1: an exaggeration, it's like, actually, not even close. But I

459
00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:50,240
Speaker 1: don't smell the roses until long after. I absolutely don't

460
00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:53,440
Speaker 1: until someone's actually interviewing me and like making me run

461
00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:57,000
Speaker 1: through my life. And then I'm like, oh, yeah, oh

462
00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,399
Speaker 1: I did. After she gets interviewed to be on like

463
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 1: the the defining book on fashion and they need her

464
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:08,160
Speaker 1: in it or their book, isn't I think at that point,

465
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:11,200
Speaker 1: I'm like, babe, when she's in textbooks about herself, she's

466
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:16,720
Speaker 1: in actual textbooks. Now, I'm like, at some point you

467
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:19,960
Speaker 1: should be like you did better than most just sending.

468
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:22,680
Speaker 1: The ending of the engagement story is basically the day

469
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:26,199
Speaker 1: the ring came, I was like, I gotta do it

470
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 1: right now. I got I don't keep words inside money.

471
00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:34,720
Speaker 1: This is why we're connected. Like Rachel comes home with

472
00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 1: my birthday gift unwrapped out of the coach because happy birthday.

473
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:41,480
Speaker 1: I'm like, it's not my birthday, told Friday. Can you

474
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:43,840
Speaker 1: like I want to save her the moment I look

475
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,680
Speaker 1: forward to my birthday, I want to unwrap it, like,

476
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:50,639
Speaker 1: what is wrong with you? Child? She's a child, A

477
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:55,200
Speaker 1: typical Serena birds like Srina. I got You're a great kid. Okay, fine,

478
00:27:55,240 --> 00:28:01,240
Speaker 1: it's a motorized scooter. I'm idiot. I love it though,

479
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:06,480
Speaker 1: but so I proposed in a fancy on your knee way,

480
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:10,359
Speaker 1: but in our bedroom, a beechwood canyon or up on

481
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:14,440
Speaker 1: a street. Terrorists I know, tuxedo terrorists. By the way

482
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:17,440
Speaker 1: that we got that, I got that ring. Gena was

483
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:23,119
Speaker 1: like in bed watching an election, returned up his atheticxbox

484
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:26,399
Speaker 1: in one hand, rick jumping ring in the other hand.

485
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:36,080
Speaker 1: Shut up, Victor, get off the phone, get off the ring.

486
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 1: Shot proposal, ring, do you want to get married? I

487
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:42,240
Speaker 1: love it? I could just see it. Wait, that's literally

488
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:46,240
Speaker 1: the funniest thing. This engagement is that different than any

489
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:49,480
Speaker 1: other proposal we have interviewed in the last year. I

490
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 1: just want you to know. And it's genius actually, and

491
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:55,800
Speaker 1: Serena's just looking at him like he's batshit crazy. So, Serena,

492
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:57,680
Speaker 1: what did you do? What did you say? Like? What

493
00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:01,560
Speaker 1: was the reaction? I was on the look my friend, Um,

494
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 1: Susan Rosner, who's now Susan Rove. I said, um, Susan,

495
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 1: I have to go on. Second thing is proposing to me.

496
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 1: Shut up. That's the sickest thing of all time. Yeah,

497
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:20,719
Speaker 1: and then do you remember? Then, Serena, this is weird,

498
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,680
Speaker 1: but this is real. Even as I say it, I'm like, wait,

499
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 1: did this happen? Is this a story we tell? Serena

500
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 1: hangs up on Susan. I'm like, so, do you want

501
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:34,240
Speaker 1: to get married? Nothing, Serena, And then she goes, Sean,

502
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 1: I can't see. I can't see. I said, what what?

503
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 1: She goes, I can't see, Sean, I can't I've lost

504
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 1: my vision. Shut up? She had. We have since research

505
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 1: like a panic attack. It is called hysterical blindness. Probably

506
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 1: is that actually for about Wow, she really didn't want

507
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 1: to get married? Who when your body takes over and

508
00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 1: shuts your shit down so you can't say yes, you

509
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 1: got to listen to your body. Sometimes I just lost

510
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:05,960
Speaker 1: my mind. Hold out a second, I literally just lost

511
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:12,160
Speaker 1: This is class. Hold on, so Serena went blood, So

512
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:14,040
Speaker 1: not only are you not the man of her dreams,

513
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 1: you made her go blind? Yeah, made me go blind?

514
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:19,560
Speaker 1: Way Sean, how long did the temporary blood? Because you

515
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:22,240
Speaker 1: can see now memory, what's your memory? Let's just play

516
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:24,959
Speaker 1: a game where we compare our versions in our minds.

517
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 1: I'm dead. I feel like three minutes, two minutes. I

518
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 1: was gonna say like five or six minutes, so I

519
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:35,760
Speaker 1: think it happened. Wait, hold on the fact that you

520
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:40,680
Speaker 1: have not done the best romantic comedy about this. Come on,

521
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:44,120
Speaker 1: we need enough money already. We need money using rom coms.

522
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:47,840
Speaker 1: Seriously enough, you got your penthouse. Do something for the

523
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 1: people already, something like Giggly that we can like, well,

524
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 1: you know, funnily enough, ten years ago, I did that.

525
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:57,480
Speaker 1: I did what at that point was like my definitive

526
00:30:57,520 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 1: story of us, which is a movie called Date Night.

527
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 1: I okay, so get this. We're at We're on date

528
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 1: night at Georgio Baldi restaurant in La Okay, so like

529
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 1: happy or let's just say a certain time of your listeners.

530
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 1: They know this restaurant in La and we would go

531
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 1: there once a week for a date night. And we're

532
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 1: there on date night and we're talking about the kids,

533
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 1: the schedule, the same stuff, and we started talking about

534
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 1: how isn't it weird that date night becomes about your kids?

535
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:30,800
Speaker 1: It gets too familiar? Yeah, and what And then we

536
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:32,960
Speaker 1: came up with this idea of wait, what about a

537
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 1: story about a date night that goes wrong? Based on

538
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:40,200
Speaker 1: one then you take someone's reservation at a restaurant. You

539
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 1: don't want to wait, so you pretend that you're someone

540
00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 1: else whose name you see in the reservation. And now

541
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:51,240
Speaker 1: that that came all of the movie's God, I totally

542
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 1: forgot it's wait. But there's no blindness in that in

543
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:57,480
Speaker 1: the proposal is there? You are not wrong Rachel that

544
00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:00,960
Speaker 1: I've yet to do that scene. Okay, I'm now hear

545
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 1: me now, listener, Serena Sean Roger. As we sit here,

546
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 1: I would like to beg that we get a great

547
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 1: romantic comedy because I personally and really need one in

548
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:15,600
Speaker 1: this lifetime that we're living in right now, as does Serena.

549
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,280
Speaker 1: And I think that would be one of the absolute

550
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 1: By the way, and Sean, I don't know much about

551
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:22,960
Speaker 1: the business, but something really moves me when at the

552
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 1: beginning of the time it goes based on a true story.

553
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I mean it's pretty. Maybe it couldn't

554
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 1: make Starr. Maybe you could make more money on this

555
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 1: ron com with that. Come on, Sean, give it a go.

556
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 1: You got it, you did, You can say it to anything.

557
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 1: I think it ended up. For a while, I was

558
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 1: going to make the movie Marley and Me and I

559
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 1: wrote a scene where the cup of this is based

560
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 1: on our wedding night where you come home to this

561
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 1: beautiful hotel room and everyone looks gorgeous and everyone's young

562
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 1: and serena night. This happened when where we got married

563
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:58,240
Speaker 1: and we were in Montreal and it had started snowing outside.

564
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 1: And even though in the movie version you're supposed to

565
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 1: fall onto the bed and have a night, we literally

566
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 1: in our bridal gown and tuxedo, rolled up our pants,

567
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 1: sat on the edge of a bathtub. Our feet were

568
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:16,520
Speaker 1: freaking throbbing. We sat there in front of a huge

569
00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 1: window with snow falling outside, and we soaked our feet

570
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 1: on our weddings are flipping cutest. Wow, you became eighty

571
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 1: on your wedding night. Yes, yes, yes, for good for you.

572
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 1: That's what works for us. But that that but do

573
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:34,480
Speaker 1: you want to ask you that you guys? So can

574
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:37,600
Speaker 1: we go to so many questions before you were engaged,

575
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 1: I mean it was a long time. Were you like, hey,

576
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:42,240
Speaker 1: I want a big family, little family, or like eleven

577
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 1: kids or two kids, or it's really quick? Well, and

578
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,320
Speaker 1: also you had you have a lot of them? How

579
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 1: did we how do we decide that? I don't remember

580
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 1: any conversation. We didn't. We didn't, we never, I think

581
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 1: it was there. It did evolved, But there was also

582
00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 1: I think a certain amount of I don't know why,

583
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 1: we just assumed that we would want enough of the

584
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 1: same things. But there was never an actual formal conversation

585
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 1: about number of kids, size of family. You did it

586
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 1: really did either? We didn't. We just kept not having

587
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:21,839
Speaker 1: them for eighteen years. Yeah, we said I need a

588
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:25,320
Speaker 1: lot of practice. That's true. We were together for actually

589
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 1: eighteen full years. Well without children, I need practice. And also, Rachel,

590
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:35,720
Speaker 1: you know, I didn't really know I needed eighteen seasons together. Hey, sorry,

591
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 1: I needed oh boy, seventy two seasons together. No. The

592
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:45,839
Speaker 1: truth is is that I think because we were both workaholics, Sean,

593
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:49,239
Speaker 1: we kept saying like next year, next year, next year, Oh,

594
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 1: next year, by the time we're the oh, and then

595
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 1: all of a sudden it was eighteen years later. Well,

596
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:56,880
Speaker 1: I'm struck by that. A. I don't know that I

597
00:34:56,960 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 1: ever knew that, but I think, I mean, eighteen years

598
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 1: of marriage. Marriage is never going to be easy all

599
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 1: the time, right, of course, you know is everyone knows that.

600
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:12,239
Speaker 1: But eighteen years of marriage and relationship in the absence

601
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:17,920
Speaker 1: of that inherent bonding glue. Yeah, yeah, that is I

602
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 1: think remarkable, Nash. That is its own love story. Um,

603
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 1: and it speaks to well, thank you. I think there

604
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:28,920
Speaker 1: was a lot of um. We didn't feel like we

605
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:32,719
Speaker 1: were missing anything at that in that moment. There was

606
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 1: never no truth be told. I think at least and

607
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:39,719
Speaker 1: I'm starting to feel old enough to have children, but

608
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:42,239
Speaker 1: I think, you know, you know, are like at least

609
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 1: my personally am not. I'm pretty young at heart, and

610
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:49,840
Speaker 1: I didn't really see myself like with kids because I

611
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 1: was sort of a kid myself and still still And

612
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 1: I think, actually, I feel a lot of people you

613
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:58,759
Speaker 1: know that might not be you know, mature enough or

614
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 1: like solid enough in their relationship to have children. And

615
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:05,239
Speaker 1: you know, I think that's a lot of the reason

616
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 1: why you know, so you know, there's a lot of

617
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 1: family issues in this world. But um yeah, just sort

618
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:13,359
Speaker 1: of we were so connected well kind of do in life.

619
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 1: But also you know, for us, I mean, I think

620
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:19,720
Speaker 1: again we're I'm everyone thinks Rachel's the more echoing person.

621
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:22,479
Speaker 1: I'm actually the more echoing person for sure, for sure,

622
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:26,399
Speaker 1: and you know, which is funny. But you know, I

623
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:30,359
Speaker 1: think we just liked each other each other. We just

624
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 1: liked cruising around and just having fun. I don't know,

625
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 1: we just really had a great worked and had fun.

626
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:37,239
Speaker 1: And all of a sudden it was eighteen years and

627
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:38,839
Speaker 1: it was like we looked at it a little bit

628
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:40,719
Speaker 1: more like, oh, no, kids are going to slow down,

629
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:44,399
Speaker 1: this party and this like momentum and our career. My god,

630
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:45,879
Speaker 1: I don't want to lose my career. Oh my god.

631
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:48,920
Speaker 1: We don't want to stop like us. And also Rachel's

632
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:50,799
Speaker 1: career especially is a little bit more. You know, it's

633
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 1: harder to you know, stop to have kids. You know,

634
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:56,360
Speaker 1: it's just a hard It's it's a much harder, you know,

635
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:58,719
Speaker 1: two years in Hollywood. As you know, I mean, you're

636
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 1: over right if you're not like inside and I say,

637
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:04,799
Speaker 1: I mean, I but we we have every friend of

638
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:07,319
Speaker 1: mine that wants to have kids and feels like, oh,

639
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 1: it's not the right time right now. They're never really

640
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 1: feels like this is the one You're never well, finally

641
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 1: it wasn't the right time. It's happy accident had sky

642
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:17,239
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, I wish I have

643
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 1: four kids. Yeah, but I mean I was sort of

644
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 1: you know, hey, rage like you can't. We're not aging backwards. Yeah,

645
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 1: I just got to be like really not an issue,

646
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:27,840
Speaker 1: but like we kind of had to pull the trigger.

647
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 1: I think, you know, there's we can It's something I

648
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:35,960
Speaker 1: think about a lot. We can spend so much energy

649
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:39,280
Speaker 1: in our careers and our relationships and our family lives

650
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 1: where you can get pretty hung up on what you

651
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:46,919
Speaker 1: wish was different. You have what you or And I'm

652
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 1: not going to default to the like meditate on gratitude.

653
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 1: But the truth is, yes, it's the focus shift, right

654
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:56,920
Speaker 1: and understanding you guys have a great life, and I'm

655
00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 1: sure there's something you don't. From my standing, I have

656
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:03,279
Speaker 1: a great life. I try. I try it every day.

657
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:07,479
Speaker 1: I'm like be grateful. It's like I don't I listen.

658
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 1: I wish I had a daughter, but we like an

659
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 1: additional child this one, but it's yeah, yeah. But by

660
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:20,240
Speaker 1: the way, I met Serena and she told me afore,

661
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:24,400
Speaker 1: I was like, but that's but that's why Rachel really

662
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:26,839
Speaker 1: I think, does have you know, more or less like

663
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 1: some girls in her life that she's close with some

664
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:33,920
Speaker 1: friends daughters that you know, yeah, she says, you know,

665
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:36,319
Speaker 1: gives them birthday gifts and pay special attention. I mean,

666
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:38,400
Speaker 1: I guess it would be more like a godmother type

667
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 1: role if that. You know, she's not a godmother. But

668
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And but at the end

669
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 1: of the day, I agree with what you're saying, Sewan.

670
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:47,440
Speaker 1: And again not to say attitudes. I really try and

671
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 1: focus on not what we don't have, but what we

672
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 1: do have. And I tell Rache a lot about that

673
00:38:54,640 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 1: too too. You know, like our life so blessed it is,

674
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 1: it's amazing, and I don't know, I think we all are.

675
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:07,439
Speaker 1: I think that's a lot of what we've probably taken

676
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 1: away over the last two years. I mean, that's what

677
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:11,920
Speaker 1: that's how little you actually need and how yeah, and

678
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 1: I don't you know, like the clothing, I don't want it,

679
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 1: I don't even need it, although I do like sweat.

680
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:19,279
Speaker 1: Also a lot of good clothing. So when you get seen, no,

681
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 1: I do have. Oh my god, I'm getting you know what,

682
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 1: I'm really going deep in. I'm really going deep into

683
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 1: the workout gear, the technical gear like sweatshirts. Oh my god,

684
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 1: I have such a one. Good para pants. I got

685
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:34,759
Speaker 1: my one good Greg Lore and sweatpants with pipes. Oh

686
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 1: my god. The for yours. These are the next ones.

687
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:41,279
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Roger Shoan, I've been wearing these for

688
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 1: two days. I swear, I got evan showered. You've gived

689
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:48,239
Speaker 1: you track suits with like a match. I don't, and

690
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:50,239
Speaker 1: I do wear it all the time. This is what

691
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 1: we're getting you next travel. But now it's for all

692
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 1: around leisure, the best leisure. I'm king of leisure. Were

693
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 1: I think it's when it comes to I do have

694
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:00,920
Speaker 1: one question you guys, because all of your daughters are

695
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:04,360
Speaker 1: fiercely independent, except there's maybe one that's going to be

696
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 1: it's going to be the three of you for probably

697
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:12,879
Speaker 1: so so I guess my question about that. So, as

698
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:15,400
Speaker 1: we've mentioned a few times, they have four, four girls

699
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:22,839
Speaker 1: and the youngest being ten right, um, and and she

700
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:25,719
Speaker 1: is I would like to say I identify very well

701
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:30,239
Speaker 1: with her because she's glued to mom and dad. I

702
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:33,279
Speaker 1: was glued to my mom and dad. I swear to

703
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:35,359
Speaker 1: you guys all the time. My mother actually told you

704
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 1: that I held her like I cried. I cried every

705
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 1: single day at sleepway Camp. I cried to be picked

706
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 1: up at school. I cried to be picked up at sleepovers.

707
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:48,160
Speaker 1: So I guess, just a baby rude um. But I

708
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 1: think the question is is there something different? You can't

709
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 1: raise each child the same? Yeah, like, what do you

710
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:58,799
Speaker 1: guys have an idea? Because I'm the baby. Honestly, they

711
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 1: were all like that, really, yeah, they were all We

712
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 1: picked three kids up from sleepaway camp early and are

713
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:12,880
Speaker 1: not over even going to entertain the thought. So do

714
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:16,480
Speaker 1: you tell me about that? Because I think there's this

715
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:18,759
Speaker 1: line that I'm actually going to struggle with, and I

716
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 1: think you guys can probably help me. Roger will not

717
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:25,480
Speaker 1: struggle the same way that I do. But we parents

718
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:28,719
Speaker 1: so hard, right, and we have such great kids, right,

719
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 1: We're so blessed. But at what point do you Skyler's

720
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 1: going to sleepaway camp for three weeks. I'm in a

721
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:41,360
Speaker 1: in word in Nurse by Roll and just this is

722
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 1: the most honest answer I can give you and they

723
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 1: come out as who they are, right and affected. But

724
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:52,200
Speaker 1: our four girls are so different from another, and those

725
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:56,720
Speaker 1: differences were baked in early. I agree with genetics, everything

726
00:41:56,840 --> 00:42:01,719
Speaker 1: is general. Agree definitely. All have been in very attached

727
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:04,920
Speaker 1: to us, and maybe it's that we're very attached to them,

728
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:07,799
Speaker 1: and I think, so that's what I'm saying. I think

729
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:11,319
Speaker 1: I'm guilty of that, dude, not guilty, but it's okay, No, no,

730
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 1: it is because it leads to thirteen. I was gonna say,

731
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 1: which is our oldest girl is now twenty two? Right,

732
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:21,560
Speaker 1: twenty two down to eleven. We are still having talks

733
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 1: in bed at nights, we and I about big We

734
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:27,439
Speaker 1: got a freaking we gotta release the reins a bit.

735
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:32,240
Speaker 1: We live her life with her, and we are still

736
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:35,040
Speaker 1: like we're veteran parents. It's still a struggle. So you

737
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:39,200
Speaker 1: talk about sleepaway camp, we gave you the same disattachment

738
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:45,520
Speaker 1: kind of symbiosis. Struggled. Ye, you're just even I you know,

739
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 1: I'm really pushing for it and I won for the

740
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 1: moment because wanted it. Yeah, well think and he might not,

741
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:54,719
Speaker 1: but I think Scott's the type of kid that will

742
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 1: get a lot out of it, and yeah, you know

743
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 1: he's a very you know, he likes friends and he

744
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 1: likes that stuff, and he's a joiner, and you know,

745
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:03,440
Speaker 1: I don't want to deprive him. Like I went listen,

746
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 1: I didn't even love sleepaway camp, but I loved it

747
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:07,840
Speaker 1: more than hanging out with my parents for a summer.

748
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 1: So that's a different, right, So that was me. I

749
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:13,239
Speaker 1: was like, whatever chance I got to be away. But

750
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 1: I'm also young. Two older sisters six years and eight

751
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 1: years older than me, so I sort of like vastly

752
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 1: different from that part, right that you have to respect

753
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 1: their nature. And so he will love it. No, he's

754
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:28,239
Speaker 1: gonna love it. Hold your hand every day and New

755
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:31,799
Speaker 1: York to someone, it's gonna be Meu coco and Kaias.

756
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:34,759
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Kaias is good? Is maybe going down

757
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 1: the cocoa path? Kaias uh Kaius asked every eleven seconds,

758
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 1: he just he just pucked up mummy like literally, it's subconscious.

759
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 1: I'm like, why are you just chanting mummy? I love mummy.

760
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:50,759
Speaker 1: And by the way, he's ten, Well, no, he's nice,

761
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:55,799
Speaker 1: he's been he turns up, well, he just had ten

762
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:59,360
Speaker 1: days calmed down. He's eight. Okay, so okay, that's helpful.

763
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 1: So I'm just gonna keep coming to you guys for

764
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:04,440
Speaker 1: this because you now have the huge AIG range. So you, guys,

765
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:08,279
Speaker 1: the most important thing that we leave here with is

766
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:10,759
Speaker 1: and I kind of know a little bit, but I

767
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 1: do want to hear your thoughts on it. What is

768
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:17,960
Speaker 1: your magic? What's your secret sauce? What's your Why do

769
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:21,439
Speaker 1: Sean and Serena work so beautiful? And obviously like you fight?

770
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:25,239
Speaker 1: We all fight like it's normal, it's healthy, but like works,

771
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:29,000
Speaker 1: what works right works for you? I well, I think

772
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:36,280
Speaker 1: Sean and I are really um different say, but actually

773
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 1: want the same things and value the same things things,

774
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 1: so we come from complete opposite places of trying to

775
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:49,239
Speaker 1: make the same thing work. I think that's pretty much

776
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 1: what I was gonna say. I mean, this idea that

777
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:54,880
Speaker 1: the right person and the right relationship should be someone

778
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:57,279
Speaker 1: who is like you, I don't think that's true. I

779
00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:59,520
Speaker 1: also don't think it's true in business. Also, I've learned

780
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:01,879
Speaker 1: that the easy way in the Hartmak don't up down

781
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 1: on yourself. I don't want to marry myself. You don't

782
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:07,840
Speaker 1: want a business part that does what you do or

783
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:10,880
Speaker 1: it just does not work. That's the early lesson of

784
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:14,400
Speaker 1: relationships and business. For me, it's like, no, no, don't

785
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:17,279
Speaker 1: look to double down on yourself. And yet when she

786
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 1: says we want the same things, we want, we crave familiness. Frankly,

787
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:27,080
Speaker 1: living all those years in LA and especially with my

788
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:30,920
Speaker 1: kind of job, I would fashion the same thing. If

789
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:34,799
Speaker 1: you're working and flourishing in a business that is by

790
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:40,359
Speaker 1: definition a little bit based on superficial values, we need

791
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:44,240
Speaker 1: to know the difference, and you need to for yourselves

792
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:47,640
Speaker 1: and your kids. That's what I do, That's what mommy

793
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:51,760
Speaker 1: and daddy do. This is our life. Yes, this group,

794
00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:55,360
Speaker 1: this is real life. This is things that matter. And

795
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 1: it's kind of crazy how many people we've all met

796
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:01,279
Speaker 1: who don't live that way where it's all kind of

797
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:04,200
Speaker 1: you know, the kids are props for the you know,

798
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 1: they're like something. Yeah, we being with our kids, I know,

799
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:13,279
Speaker 1: there's nothing that even comes close. Yeah. No, Like even

800
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 1: like we were saying, like to go away, like I'm

801
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:17,640
Speaker 1: a tough guy sometimes like I would love to go

802
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:19,440
Speaker 1: away for like a couple of nights with rage, like

803
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:21,839
Speaker 1: we did that in Napa, but like we were just

804
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:24,960
Speaker 1: like going, We're hopefully we'll see with COVID but going

805
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:28,920
Speaker 1: to Harbor Island and it was like what, like are

806
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:31,440
Speaker 1: we bringing because I'm like yeah. We were both like yeah,

807
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 1: like who, like why would it be on the beach?

808
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:38,719
Speaker 1: Like I want to see like them like giggle Like

809
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:42,720
Speaker 1: that's the point, you know what i mean, Like that's

810
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:45,839
Speaker 1: the point, Like I don't know. So I was like yeah,

811
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:51,200
Speaker 1: and like I'm excited to like because they love uh anime.

812
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:52,840
Speaker 1: You know, they're very into anime and all that. Like

813
00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:55,240
Speaker 1: I really want to take them to Japan because they'll

814
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:57,799
Speaker 1: freak out if they see like museums with samurais and

815
00:46:58,280 --> 00:46:59,839
Speaker 1: you know, that's what I want to do. I want

816
00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:01,880
Speaker 1: to I want, I mean then to explore the world,

817
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 1: like give them an opportunity, you know, That's what I'm

818
00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:06,279
Speaker 1: looking forward to. I think, you guys, I think the

819
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 1: thing that I've always observed is that Sean, as you

820
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:12,120
Speaker 1: were saying, I think in this insane in these industries

821
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:14,480
Speaker 1: that were surrounded by and people we love, many friends

822
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:16,400
Speaker 1: we've made in it for life and we're grateful for,

823
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 1: but ultimately knowing you're going home to your happiest, safest

824
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:23,719
Speaker 1: place where you're just you and you don't have to

825
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:25,439
Speaker 1: work and you don't have to think, and you don't

826
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 1: and it's just that's your happy place. And I think

827
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:29,920
Speaker 1: for me, I don't know about you guys, I mean

828
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:32,400
Speaker 1: I kind of do. But like during the pandemic, I

829
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:34,920
Speaker 1: think if anything we all came out of it was

830
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:38,680
Speaker 1: like we're really stuck together because like we just spent

831
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:42,800
Speaker 1: like sixteen months without seeing anybody else like this is

832
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:45,920
Speaker 1: and guess what, I'm so happy, I'm so relaxed. I'm

833
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:47,799
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It was kind of nice,

834
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:51,279
Speaker 1: but I mean not kind of was amazing. Not everybody

835
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:55,440
Speaker 1: feels that their family is they're happy, I know, not

836
00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:58,520
Speaker 1: at all right now, Yeah, I know, I know true

837
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:03,160
Speaker 1: that way, that is a gift and for us that's

838
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:06,200
Speaker 1: always been connective. And so you know, even what you

839
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:09,799
Speaker 1: were saying, Roger, this idea that like, oh, well to

840
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:11,759
Speaker 1: keep the spark glive, you got to go away once

841
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:14,200
Speaker 1: a year for two weeks, right, Like, the bottom line

842
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 1: is we're twenty eight years in and yeah, you find

843
00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 1: those moments in little parks of course, places and moments

844
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:25,319
Speaker 1: before wait blah blah blah blah blah those but the

845
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:28,200
Speaker 1: togetherness is all of it, and it doesn't need to

846
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:31,279
Speaker 1: be kind of segregated. It's all part of going through

847
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 1: life together, which is but I but I really unders

848
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:39,319
Speaker 1: sorry going for you. We had a I think it

849
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:42,960
Speaker 1: was a child therapist years ago who called us. She said,

850
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:45,360
Speaker 1: you guys are a cluster of grapes. You kind of

851
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:49,200
Speaker 1: need to all be on the same branch and be

852
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 1: connected and next to each other, and that's how you all.

853
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 1: It's true, like you're okay in the world. And I

854
00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:58,279
Speaker 1: don't know that everyone needs to live that way, but

855
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:00,600
Speaker 1: I do know that it sure helps if your idea

856
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 1: of family is the same as you're s I agree

857
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:08,960
Speaker 1: with that. There's lots of ways to do it, but

858
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:11,799
Speaker 1: I don't know how to do it happily if the

859
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 1: idea of what that means isn't the same enough as

860
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:19,239
Speaker 1: you're significant and for us, a bunch of grapes is

861
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:23,960
Speaker 1: what we both crave, and that that shared aspiration of

862
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:28,759
Speaker 1: familihood that's been bedrock once that first, I agree, what's

863
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:32,040
Speaker 1: so interesting in a weird way? And I'm sort of

864
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:33,719
Speaker 1: thinking it like Rachel and I. You know, I was

865
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:35,759
Speaker 1: a banker, Rachel was a fashion and you know New

866
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:39,640
Speaker 1: York is sort of the capital both and like you're

867
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:43,520
Speaker 1: here obviously did extremely well in your craft, but still

868
00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:45,880
Speaker 1: doing well, still doing but no. But the point that

869
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:48,920
Speaker 1: I'm trying to make is, in a weird way, because

870
00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:52,719
Speaker 1: she lived around that, she never had an escape from it,

871
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:56,120
Speaker 1: and because you lived around that, you never really had

872
00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:58,680
Speaker 1: to escape from it. And in a weird way, I

873
00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:01,200
Speaker 1: think you both crave like a normalcy in a weird

874
00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:04,560
Speaker 1: way and like normalcy whatever that is, whatever that is.

875
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:06,680
Speaker 1: And it's interesting. I know you have a you know,

876
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:11,040
Speaker 1: a home in New Pauls, right, um, we for many

877
00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:13,320
Speaker 1: years had a home up in New Poults near Woodstock.

878
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:16,359
Speaker 1: I don't know, said house in pots and imagine it

879
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:18,560
Speaker 1: was just like a respite, you know, a respite rate,

880
00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:22,239
Speaker 1: you know, just get away from. Because I feel like

881
00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:26,120
Speaker 1: I'll just tell you my own personal experience. I moved

882
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 1: to LA and people would like ask me like tax

883
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:33,799
Speaker 1: questions because like they most people thought it was like

884
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:37,480
Speaker 1: a stockbroker, like no one has any idea that what

885
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:41,880
Speaker 1: finances Now they well now they sort of do, but

886
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:46,000
Speaker 1: it's still it's like you're behind it, like or this

887
00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:49,200
Speaker 1: summer when I said, yeah, we're moving now to what

888
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:52,000
Speaker 1: you said to me is that's gonna be so nice

889
00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:54,960
Speaker 1: for you to be in rooms where not everybody is

890
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:59,680
Speaker 1: what you do. Yeah, for me, that was la right, writers, actors,

891
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:03,480
Speaker 1: direct there's everyone wstling and everyone wants to be every restaurant,

892
00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:07,120
Speaker 1: every party we come here, I'm like a novelty act Yeah,

893
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:12,439
Speaker 1: it's amazing director, and uh and it has been. It's

894
00:51:12,680 --> 00:51:15,080
Speaker 1: been a nice kind of like middle of life shake

895
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:19,600
Speaker 1: up family to just kind of try different adventures. So

896
00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:23,840
Speaker 1: great yet so great it is. It is nice. Jealous

897
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:25,560
Speaker 1: Are we gonna have to do this again at some point?

898
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:30,160
Speaker 1: We're here for we sit on our hill, we don't live.

899
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:32,480
Speaker 1: We did the move eighteen years ago. Well we did

900
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:35,000
Speaker 1: our move eighteen years ago. We're like, yeah, we did

901
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:39,160
Speaker 1: the same reasons honestly, like and the other thing and

902
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:41,600
Speaker 1: the other thing. That's interesting and maybe this is what

903
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:43,880
Speaker 1: you felt a little bit, and I know you must

904
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:47,880
Speaker 1: sort of. What's also weird about being in the town

905
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:54,080
Speaker 1: where the industry is you actually make friends in the

906
00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:57,960
Speaker 1: industry and around and there's certain like obviously you know,

907
00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:02,080
Speaker 1: everyone's everyone's kind of type here, right, So there's a

908
00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:04,839
Speaker 1: lot of this sort of like where is everyone in

909
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:09,880
Speaker 1: my world? Like are they friends? Like there there's there.

910
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 1: There are definitely other motivations for friendships here that that

911
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 1: even if the people aren't necessarily conscious that they're doing

912
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:24,680
Speaker 1: it subconsciously, they kind of are because they're smart. That is.

913
00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:28,000
Speaker 1: That's and that is one of the things that Serena

914
00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:33,080
Speaker 1: has flagged as one of the things she truly doesn't miss. Yeah,

915
00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:37,760
Speaker 1: in that sense of oh man, everybody has an agenda.

916
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:41,400
Speaker 1: Feel like everyone's working in angles, every bus, everybody. Everyone's

917
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:44,359
Speaker 1: a hustler. You know, everyone's a hustler in some way.

918
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:46,440
Speaker 1: And I'll tell you again that's why Serena and I

919
00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:49,200
Speaker 1: fell in love, and and and and in many ways,

920
00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:51,799
Speaker 1: believe it or not funny enough. I mean, we did

921
00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:54,600
Speaker 1: a little mini move, like so we moved to Brentwood,

922
00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:56,600
Speaker 1: you know, move from Beverly has In in a way

923
00:52:56,640 --> 00:53:00,440
Speaker 1: that also allowed us to ten minut it's in our

924
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:02,360
Speaker 1: whole life. But we change your life also in a

925
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:04,000
Speaker 1: weird you know, a little bit more west, you know,

926
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:06,120
Speaker 1: obviously west side close to the beach. Now we you know,

927
00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:08,319
Speaker 1: we have this rented place in Malibu, so and we

928
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:10,400
Speaker 1: get there, we're gonna end up in the ocean, you know.

929
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:15,120
Speaker 1: But I'm saying it's different friends, different teachers and parents

930
00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:18,000
Speaker 1: from the school. And it's just nice. It will and

931
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:21,600
Speaker 1: and isn't it Also again, I'm business on the pictures

932
00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:23,960
Speaker 1: of the view from your new house. So it's sick.

933
00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:27,919
Speaker 1: It looks like small found a home. It is sick,

934
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:32,000
Speaker 1: but it also looks like it's peaceful. It's behavior, it's

935
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:37,840
Speaker 1: it's so en, it's home a home. It's quiet. Yeah, yeah,

936
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:41,600
Speaker 1: and it's befo you ye in that. We have the

937
00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:43,120
Speaker 1: same feeling. You know when you go to the Bell

938
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:45,279
Speaker 1: Hotel and you kind of go up and you get

939
00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:46,840
Speaker 1: in the BELLI are like, where does it mean it

940
00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:48,600
Speaker 1: in the pretentious way? It means it in the I'm

941
00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:52,160
Speaker 1: in the scapeboway. Once you go up, you know, through

942
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:54,399
Speaker 1: the gates up that hill to our house, it's like

943
00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:57,279
Speaker 1: we feel like I really felt like I'm sorry, was

944
00:53:57,280 --> 00:53:58,880
Speaker 1: like I've I've actually gone. So I was that I

945
00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:01,080
Speaker 1: go back into town to live my life and then

946
00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:03,520
Speaker 1: I come back up to this and to hang out.

947
00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:06,799
Speaker 1: It's really interesting. Okay, So I want to leave you

948
00:54:06,840 --> 00:54:09,279
Speaker 1: guys because I know you guys have ten billion let's do.

949
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:11,439
Speaker 1: Let's do, But I want to do the last three

950
00:54:11,560 --> 00:54:14,640
Speaker 1: silly funny newly because these are going to be good.

951
00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:16,360
Speaker 1: I want to do one, okay, because I have to know,

952
00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:18,160
Speaker 1: because I'm dying to hear what they say. Oh good,

953
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:24,120
Speaker 1: So it's my favorite Sean. Why Serena getting arrested because

954
00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:28,200
Speaker 1: she went ballistic on someone who she feels wronged one

955
00:54:28,239 --> 00:54:34,239
Speaker 1: of her girls? She went down to arrested for that,

956
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:39,600
Speaker 1: arrested for that. It could be school, airport, dance class,

957
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:44,239
Speaker 1: at class. It doesn't fucking matter. If Serena feels that

958
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:47,160
Speaker 1: someone is wronging one of the girls, she is a

959
00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:50,680
Speaker 1: tigress and she will talk. Oh my god, I love that,

960
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:53,680
Speaker 1: seren Great, that's going to be me that if one,

961
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:56,439
Speaker 1: what the first time a girl breaks my kid's heart,

962
00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:59,719
Speaker 1: I swear to God, you will have to lock me up.

963
00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:03,680
Speaker 1: You will have to restrain me. It would be a problem.

964
00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:08,360
Speaker 1: Threatened to land a plane because I was fighting for

965
00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:11,799
Speaker 1: my daughters to be seated next to me. Oh I

966
00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:14,399
Speaker 1: almost got, I almost got. We have a story about that.

967
00:55:14,680 --> 00:55:19,400
Speaker 1: They actually left Caius unattended. They left him like he

968
00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:24,840
Speaker 1: was four, and I'm like, noboddy, what move. I walked

969
00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:27,960
Speaker 1: up to this woman you guys, and I go, how

970
00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:32,279
Speaker 1: do you sleep at night? How do you even? Then?

971
00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:35,000
Speaker 1: But then they're amazed that we're like walking over them

972
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:38,120
Speaker 1: to like give our kid like an iPad or like food.

973
00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:41,440
Speaker 1: Were like you, moron. We wanted to sit next to him,

974
00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:43,640
Speaker 1: but you had to have your aisle seats. So guess what,

975
00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:49,160
Speaker 1: knock yourself out? Loser? Okay, wait, serious, I was angry

976
00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:53,960
Speaker 1: that day. Why getting arrested? I kind of know this,

977
00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:56,320
Speaker 1: but we probably can't say why he's really getting arrested.

978
00:55:56,719 --> 00:56:00,440
Speaker 1: What John's such a rule follower, Rachel, he would never

979
00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:03,880
Speaker 1: get a rest. Oh my Skylar, Gylar's such a rule follower.

980
00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:09,520
Speaker 1: I love a rule Sean in the middle of the night,

981
00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:12,040
Speaker 1: he wouldn't go through. Is that why you went to Yale?

982
00:56:12,719 --> 00:56:15,840
Speaker 1: I'm a I am A I am a by the book.

983
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:19,080
Speaker 1: I try. I love it excelling, but I do it

984
00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:22,680
Speaker 1: within the box. Okay and uh, and I follow the

985
00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:24,480
Speaker 1: rules so I don't see myself in jail, but I'll

986
00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:28,240
Speaker 1: visit Serena there. I'm a weird oxymoron because I actually

987
00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:33,319
Speaker 1: hate following rules. I actually do believe they're meant to

988
00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:38,480
Speaker 1: be broken. However, I hate to get in trouble, so

989
00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:41,040
Speaker 1: like I can't really figure out how to balance those

990
00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:43,920
Speaker 1: two issues because I don't want anyone to yell at me.

991
00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:49,320
Speaker 1: So Rachel, you know this peanut wouldn't survive a night. God, Sean,

992
00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:56,880
Speaker 1: you just wouldn't. You're too little, So let me little hello.

993
00:56:57,120 --> 00:57:00,440
Speaker 1: I can't sleep without a good mellow me neither. First

994
00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:02,600
Speaker 1: thing I do in a hotel, Sean, first thing I

995
00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:08,120
Speaker 1: do in Hello? Please? Hello, God, call down, Sean, I

996
00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:11,839
Speaker 1: see you, all right, let me ask, let me ask

997
00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:14,520
Speaker 1: a question. I think it's also good because he's the

998
00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:17,080
Speaker 1: entertainment business and this will be interesting and you can't

999
00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:23,160
Speaker 1: use Serena. You guys again based sanitary story. It's twenty

1000
00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:26,560
Speaker 1: years from now, and you can do the biopic of

1001
00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:29,880
Speaker 1: your life. Who's playing Sean, who's playing Sean? Serena, who's

1002
00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:34,480
Speaker 1: playing Sean Sean, who's playing Serena in twenty years No, no,

1003
00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:38,240
Speaker 1: it would be the current day you. But in twenty

1004
00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:40,760
Speaker 1: years you're going back and you're doing biopic. He's obviously

1005
00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:43,480
Speaker 1: producing it, and he has you're young. You're young, but

1006
00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:46,959
Speaker 1: of course he does everything you say, so you're casting him.

1007
00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:51,400
Speaker 1: I'll go first of all, Serena. I think is uh

1008
00:57:51,560 --> 00:57:57,280
Speaker 1: either Brookshields me would play young Serena and like um,

1009
00:57:57,520 --> 00:58:00,760
Speaker 1: the hair and Browse Amanda Pete would play like thirties

1010
00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:04,880
Speaker 1: and four. Yeah, oh I get that. Fiber plays older

1011
00:58:05,080 --> 00:58:09,200
Speaker 1: treat done, Wow, drop the mic. You've done this once

1012
00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:11,400
Speaker 1: or two? Yes, that's not fair. You have like an

1013
00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:14,080
Speaker 1: advantage on this. You've done this once or twice. I

1014
00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:18,920
Speaker 1: have cast things. Yeah, I'm saying Joey Lawrence would be

1015
00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:21,240
Speaker 1: the call that. Yeah, but Joey is going to be

1016
00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:23,600
Speaker 1: too old to play him. I'm so sorry. We go

1017
00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:29,600
Speaker 1: for in nineteen eighties Tom Cruise. Yes, yes, by the way,

1018
00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:34,240
Speaker 1: risky business, Tom Cruise. Yeah, this is first of all,

1019
00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:38,360
Speaker 1: this is for playing. You're witnessing her comparing me to

1020
00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:42,520
Speaker 1: Tom Cruise. We might we're like on third base percent.

1021
00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:46,680
Speaker 1: This podcast will end. It's you understand, Thank god, you

1022
00:58:46,760 --> 00:58:50,120
Speaker 1: gotta takeaway you can. I'll shut this. I'll shut this

1023
00:58:50,160 --> 00:58:52,600
Speaker 1: production down right now. I could do it shown right

1024
00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:54,720
Speaker 1: now and just give me the wink. The kids to

1025
00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:57,280
Speaker 1: Wow plays are getting frisky. All right, this is the

1026
00:58:57,320 --> 00:59:03,480
Speaker 1: first time in our podcast. We've got it. I love

1027
00:59:03,480 --> 00:59:07,560
Speaker 1: you guys so much. Guys, do you need to ask

1028
00:59:07,560 --> 00:59:14,240
Speaker 1: a third one? Because that ending? They are the cuts,

1029
00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:18,200
Speaker 1: all right, autro, Sean and Serena leave, Okay, So I

1030
00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:20,680
Speaker 1: don't want to play this down because I'm not sure

1031
00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:25,160
Speaker 1: because Sean is such like a normal whatever normal is,

1032
00:59:25,520 --> 00:59:29,440
Speaker 1: such a see seemingly just a regular like husband, super

1033
00:59:29,560 --> 00:59:33,960
Speaker 1: dad and all those things that I actually myself always

1034
00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:38,160
Speaker 1: forget about how accomplished he is because he doesn't play

1035
00:59:38,280 --> 00:59:40,440
Speaker 1: that role in life, you know what I mean. And

1036
00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:43,800
Speaker 1: he is very humble. He's very humble, and I think

1037
00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:46,880
Speaker 1: having four daughters and a badass wife, he'll keep you humble. Well.

1038
00:59:46,920 --> 00:59:48,680
Speaker 1: I think what he said is, you know, he's he

1039
00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:50,640
Speaker 1: goes to work there in a day and he's like

1040
00:59:50,680 --> 00:59:52,560
Speaker 1: the man, and then he comes home and he's like

1041
00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:56,040
Speaker 1: not the man. And I think that keeps in balance,

1042
00:59:56,120 --> 00:59:58,920
Speaker 1: as he says so, and I there's nothing like your

1043
00:59:58,960 --> 01:00:03,000
Speaker 1: family to tell you straight truth, just like how it is,

1044
01:00:03,400 --> 01:00:05,600
Speaker 1: you know. And that's what you know, we were talking

1045
01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:08,560
Speaker 1: about that earlier. You know, Skylar and Hires like the

1046
01:00:08,600 --> 01:00:10,840
Speaker 1: most amazing children when they're out of the house and

1047
01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:13,320
Speaker 1: to everyone else and then to us. They don't think

1048
01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:15,640
Speaker 1: me they're amazing. No it's not. Of course they're amazing

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01:00:15,640 --> 01:00:18,280
Speaker 1: to me too, but they're they're not above pushing my

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01:00:18,360 --> 01:00:22,120
Speaker 1: button because on their dead Skylar does to you what

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01:00:22,280 --> 01:00:25,800
Speaker 1: I did to my mother. Period. That's just it's that simple.

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Speaker 1: So I understand because he's me as a boy, and

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01:00:29,080 --> 01:00:30,560
Speaker 1: he's doing to you what I did to my mother.

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01:00:30,600 --> 01:00:33,920
Speaker 1: So that's what's happening anyway. So so happy we got

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Speaker 1: to connect with them. They are extraordinary and their children

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01:00:36,680 --> 01:00:41,120
Speaker 1: are extraordinary, and everything Sean does is extraordinary. Everything Serena does,

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01:00:41,800 --> 01:00:44,920
Speaker 1: she's so special and I'm I feel very connected to

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Speaker 1: her on so many levels. But I also have a

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01:00:46,520 --> 01:00:50,040
Speaker 1: tremendous respect for Serena, and I think for us, just

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Speaker 1: given how family oriented we are, I'm just always so

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01:00:54,360 --> 01:00:59,240
Speaker 1: attracted to people that are so good at doing the

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Speaker 1: family thing well. I also think, you know, when I

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Speaker 1: think about it, like now, when you think of like, oh,

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Speaker 1: so and so person or so and so person, you're

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01:01:06,840 --> 01:01:09,400
Speaker 1: not just saying like, oh that person's great, You're like, Wow,

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Speaker 1: that person's great and such a great family. I always

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Speaker 1: describe people as like they're such good parents, or they're

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Speaker 1: such she's such a great mom, or like they're such

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Speaker 1: a beautiful family. Yeah, Like that's what I'm saying. I

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01:01:19,760 --> 01:01:23,320
Speaker 1: think family. I think family and your ability to have

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Speaker 1: a functional family. Um. I think it's also you know,

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Speaker 1: I guess it's the next step in like trying to

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01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:33,480
Speaker 1: have a great relationship and then also trying to have

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Speaker 1: a great family. And uh, I know this sounds a

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01:01:36,800 --> 01:01:41,520
Speaker 1: little you know, sappy. Sappy. Yeah, sappy is exactly where

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01:01:41,560 --> 01:01:43,680
Speaker 1: I was leaving. Usually this sappy, I know, but I

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01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:47,479
Speaker 1: think it sounds happy. But like, you know, you kind

1078
01:01:47,520 --> 01:01:51,720
Speaker 1: of want your whole family to be positive on society,

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Speaker 1: you know, so you know it's hard work to get

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01:01:56,400 --> 01:01:59,480
Speaker 1: your kids to be that way, but it's sort of

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01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:03,200
Speaker 1: your do to try and get them to be productive

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01:02:03,240 --> 01:02:06,320
Speaker 1: members of the society. I mean, that's just the bottom line. Ultimately,

1083
01:02:06,360 --> 01:02:08,720
Speaker 1: your job as a parent is to raise great humans.

1084
01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:11,680
Speaker 1: Yeah it's otherwise you shouldn't whatever that means to you,

1085
01:02:11,760 --> 01:02:15,240
Speaker 1: but like ultimately, yeah, so I'm always very impressed by

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01:02:15,280 --> 01:02:19,640
Speaker 1: people that can do it four times. Yeah. And I

1087
01:02:19,640 --> 01:02:24,920
Speaker 1: think it's also an interesting theme that you know, people

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01:02:25,720 --> 01:02:29,720
Speaker 1: well people are you know, people yearn for home whatever

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01:02:29,800 --> 01:02:33,160
Speaker 1: that is, right, Well, it's just interesting. We're just comfortable

1090
01:02:33,440 --> 01:02:35,800
Speaker 1: being comfortable. And no, it's just interesting they meet they

1091
01:02:35,840 --> 01:02:38,640
Speaker 1: move back to the East Coast because it's sort of

1092
01:02:38,680 --> 01:02:41,320
Speaker 1: like their sensibilities are East Coast and that's why they

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01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:43,920
Speaker 1: feel more comfortable. It's just like Greg, I think some

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01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:46,120
Speaker 1: of ours are East Coast, Yeah, I think, yeah. I

1095
01:02:46,120 --> 01:02:47,720
Speaker 1: think we have enough of both that we can get

1096
01:02:47,720 --> 01:02:52,240
Speaker 1: by either way. Yeah, which which which makes it easier anyway,

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01:02:52,600 --> 01:02:55,480
Speaker 1: thrilled to talk to them. Can we tell this is

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01:02:55,520 --> 01:02:57,440
Speaker 1: one of my favorite episodes. I actually learned a lot

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01:02:57,480 --> 01:03:01,320
Speaker 1: and laughed. I actually was like tearing there. That's funniest

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01:03:01,800 --> 01:03:06,040
Speaker 1: at Serena, by the way, she's hilarious because she just

1101
01:03:06,080 --> 01:03:08,360
Speaker 1: looks at John like are you Okash. She's like the

1102
01:03:08,600 --> 01:03:12,520
Speaker 1: quiet queen, but she's so funny in her quietness now

1103
01:03:12,760 --> 01:03:19,200
Speaker 1: because I mean the engagement story where he was FedEx

1104
01:03:19,240 --> 01:03:22,240
Speaker 1: in one hand and lost the other. She literally lost

1105
01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:25,240
Speaker 1: went blind. I mean that's good. You know we had cash.

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Speaker 1: I mean we have a lot of pretty good early Yeah. Guys,

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01:03:28,200 --> 01:03:30,400
Speaker 1: if you listen to Works for Us and you haven't

1108
01:03:31,120 --> 01:03:35,520
Speaker 1: heard some of the earliest episodes, you really should because

1109
01:03:35,560 --> 01:03:38,920
Speaker 1: there's some really good ones and it might help you

1110
01:03:39,000 --> 01:03:41,240
Speaker 1: navigate your path a little not feel like you might

1111
01:03:41,280 --> 01:03:44,960
Speaker 1: be so off path sometimes, to know that not everyone

1112
01:03:45,320 --> 01:03:48,120
Speaker 1: is as perfect as they appear on Instagram, and everyone

1113
01:03:48,160 --> 01:03:50,760
Speaker 1: has their own funny story exactly, and that's sort of

1114
01:03:50,800 --> 01:03:54,160
Speaker 1: my point. All right, well, thanks again. If you like

1115
01:03:54,280 --> 01:03:57,480
Speaker 1: what you've heard so far, please make sure you're subscribed

1116
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Speaker 1: on Apple Podcasts and give us an amazed rating and review,

1117
01:04:02,120 --> 01:04:04,920
Speaker 1: and of course keep listening and check us out on

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01:04:04,920 --> 01:04:10,080
Speaker 1: our Instagram at atworks dot four dot us. Also tell

1119
01:04:10,160 --> 01:04:12,919
Speaker 1: us your story. There's a works for Us phone line

1120
01:04:13,040 --> 01:04:15,600
Speaker 1: that you can call to leave us a message with

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01:04:15,680 --> 01:04:19,040
Speaker 1: your very own relationships stories, and we're planning to share

1122
01:04:19,120 --> 01:04:22,640
Speaker 1: our favorites on the podcast. You can also ask us

1123
01:04:22,720 --> 01:04:25,520
Speaker 1: for relationship advice, although we can never stress enough that

1124
01:04:25,560 --> 01:04:29,200
Speaker 1: we are not experts, but we'll still take your questions.

1125
01:04:29,280 --> 01:04:31,760
Speaker 1: So if you want to share your story or ask

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01:04:31,840 --> 01:04:34,200
Speaker 1: us a question, give us a call at six five

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Speaker 1: seven five four nine two two five one. That's six

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Speaker 1: five seven five four nine two two five one. You

1129
01:04:42,120 --> 01:04:44,840
Speaker 1: can also find all of our contact info on our

1130
01:04:44,880 --> 01:04:50,840
Speaker 1: instagram at works do four dot us. Okay, but we

1131
01:04:50,920 --> 01:04:53,120
Speaker 1: want to leave you with a little highlight and low

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01:04:53,200 --> 01:04:56,800
Speaker 1: light from our week, because in relationships, the bad comes

1133
01:04:56,800 --> 01:04:58,640
Speaker 1: with the goods, so this is our time to mention

1134
01:04:58,720 --> 01:05:02,600
Speaker 1: a little bit of both of those things. Okay, you

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01:05:02,600 --> 01:05:07,880
Speaker 1: want me to do highlight my highlight, Well, my highlight

1136
01:05:08,120 --> 01:05:11,880
Speaker 1: is that as we all feel very burnt out after

1137
01:05:12,080 --> 01:05:15,960
Speaker 1: we've worked probably as hard as we did in two

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Speaker 1: thousand and nine ten, which, by the way, is not

1139
01:05:19,400 --> 01:05:21,760
Speaker 1: a complaint. We are very grateful that we have so

1140
01:05:21,800 --> 01:05:25,000
Speaker 1: many great things going on in our professional lives. However,

1141
01:05:25,320 --> 01:05:30,560
Speaker 1: we are definitely experiencing professional and parental burnout and very

1142
01:05:30,560 --> 01:05:33,000
Speaker 1: ready for a vacation. I'm going to go with a

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01:05:33,080 --> 01:05:36,000
Speaker 1: little a weird highlight. Well, it's not weird. So being

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Speaker 1: in California, it's been really rainy here late late I

1145
01:05:39,840 --> 01:05:41,480
Speaker 1: really rainy. You mean it rained for a day. No,

1146
01:05:41,560 --> 01:05:43,760
Speaker 1: it's been raining a lot. So the highlight is as

1147
01:05:43,760 --> 01:05:45,840
Speaker 1: fall as miss and this is my highlight. So why

1148
01:05:45,880 --> 01:05:47,480
Speaker 1: don't you just stay out of it? Can I say

1149
01:05:47,520 --> 01:05:50,400
Speaker 1: something rained from? It was supposed to be four days

1150
01:05:50,400 --> 01:05:53,840
Speaker 1: and the sun was out by three o'clock. Sunglasses on, sweetheart,

1151
01:05:53,880 --> 01:05:56,080
Speaker 1: You're wrong. It rained a lot this week, so much

1152
01:05:56,120 --> 01:06:02,880
Speaker 1: so that Mammoth Mountain has seven feet of new powdersche No,

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01:06:02,960 --> 01:06:06,200
Speaker 1: it's amazing for all concerned because there's a few things. A.

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01:06:06,880 --> 01:06:12,480
Speaker 1: We need the water in California badly. The snow is

1155
01:06:12,520 --> 01:06:15,760
Speaker 1: what provides the water, so you need the snow cap

1156
01:06:15,880 --> 01:06:18,520
Speaker 1: to get the water. So I'm excited that the snow

1157
01:06:18,560 --> 01:06:21,720
Speaker 1: cap is building so early in the season, so that's

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01:06:21,760 --> 01:06:24,640
Speaker 1: going to provide some wonderful skiing and some wonderful water

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Speaker 1: to our lovely California. So that's my highlight. My low

1160
01:06:29,520 --> 01:06:35,400
Speaker 1: light would be that I'm feeling a little tired. I

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01:06:35,440 --> 01:06:37,760
Speaker 1: think I said this last time, but I'm gonna say

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01:06:37,760 --> 01:06:43,240
Speaker 1: it again. Um. I love what we do. I love

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01:06:43,440 --> 01:06:45,840
Speaker 1: all the things and all the energy we have to

1164
01:06:45,960 --> 01:06:50,520
Speaker 1: do them, but at some point I need to just

1165
01:06:50,600 --> 01:06:53,120
Speaker 1: chill and I'm getting there. So my low light is

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01:06:53,320 --> 01:06:56,960
Speaker 1: that I don't have quite the strength and stamina that

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01:06:57,040 --> 01:06:59,600
Speaker 1: I normally do because I need to chill out. What

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01:06:59,640 --> 01:07:03,080
Speaker 1: about you, right, what's your highlight that you can't believe

1169
01:07:03,080 --> 01:07:06,680
Speaker 1: how beautiful I am, how buff I am. The highlight

1170
01:07:06,760 --> 01:07:10,840
Speaker 1: is like looking at your husband every morning. I'm just

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01:07:10,880 --> 01:07:15,640
Speaker 1: giving you some ideas to start off with. Well, since

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Speaker 1: you don't have a highlight, I'm going to do one

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01:07:17,240 --> 01:07:22,480
Speaker 1: for you. The highlight for me, Roger is waking up,

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01:07:23,040 --> 01:07:26,080
Speaker 1: turning over and knowing that you are by my side,

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01:07:26,640 --> 01:07:28,560
Speaker 1: even though this morning I was in the boy's bed

1176
01:07:28,600 --> 01:07:31,640
Speaker 1: because you, the boys and the dog were in the

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01:07:31,640 --> 01:07:34,240
Speaker 1: bed and I literally couldn't find an inch to actually

1178
01:07:34,440 --> 01:07:37,200
Speaker 1: just no. In my vision of this, you turn over.

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01:07:37,280 --> 01:07:39,040
Speaker 1: But I like you. I like your version of my

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01:07:39,160 --> 01:07:42,320
Speaker 1: vision version of this. You turn over, You look at me,

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01:07:42,600 --> 01:07:44,840
Speaker 1: and you know what you say in your mind, I'm

1182
01:07:45,160 --> 01:07:48,320
Speaker 1: lucky to have you. Well, yes, you're perfect, man. But

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Speaker 1: it's not for the reason you may think, Oh, listeners,

1184
01:07:51,320 --> 01:07:55,000
Speaker 1: it's not for the reason you may think. It's because

1185
01:07:55,440 --> 01:07:58,760
Speaker 1: Rachel looks at me with that amazing look in her face.

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01:07:58,880 --> 01:08:01,240
Speaker 1: You know why, Because I'm going to Starbucks to get

1187
01:08:01,240 --> 01:08:04,800
Speaker 1: her tea. That's the only reason why she loves me.

1188
01:08:04,840 --> 01:08:06,800
Speaker 1: Do you want to know this amazing feeling? You guys?

1189
01:08:06,920 --> 01:08:11,560
Speaker 1: When I wake up at six fifteen or the first time,

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01:08:11,640 --> 01:08:13,920
Speaker 1: six or five forty five, and then I just news

1191
01:08:13,760 --> 01:08:16,680
Speaker 1: news until the boys are like, hey, sex already. I

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01:08:16,800 --> 01:08:19,760
Speaker 1: turn over and see that Roger's an absent, and that

1193
01:08:19,840 --> 01:08:23,599
Speaker 1: means he's in the car. That means he's already on

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01:08:23,720 --> 01:08:29,320
Speaker 1: his way back with piping hot Starbucks. It's the concern

1195
01:08:29,600 --> 01:08:33,080
Speaker 1: is when he's still next morning and I'm like, oh

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01:08:33,160 --> 01:08:38,080
Speaker 1: my god, he hasn't left. Will he make it back before? Yeah,

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01:08:38,080 --> 01:08:41,000
Speaker 1: there's some there's some pressure involved, um, and I will

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01:08:41,000 --> 01:08:44,479
Speaker 1: remind our friends of Starbucks that you know we keep

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01:08:44,520 --> 01:08:47,719
Speaker 1: talking about you guys, You're not you know you can advertise, Hey,

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01:08:47,720 --> 01:08:50,400
Speaker 1: what about us? We drink the goddamn stuff every day?

1201
01:08:50,640 --> 01:08:54,040
Speaker 1: He will dress up as me for Halloween. The stars

1202
01:08:55,479 --> 01:08:59,679
Speaker 1: Come on Starbucks. Okay everyone, love you all. We'll speak

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01:08:59,720 --> 01:09:04,519
Speaker 1: to you next week with an amazing US or guests. Um.

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01:09:04,560 --> 01:09:08,160
Speaker 1: Stay tuned for works for us next week. Bye bye

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Speaker 1: m