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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Hour two of The Clay and Buck

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Speaker 1: Show gets going right now. We are weeks from the

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Speaker 1: mid terms, and man, it is interesting to see how

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Speaker 1: this is all playing out. Democrats that I've been in

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Speaker 1: touch with recently or that I've seen trying to explain

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Speaker 1: the Fetterman fiasco, are really running out of room to maneuver.

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Speaker 1: It's not clear that he's going to debate doctor Oz.

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Speaker 1: We've been discussing that Oz is very sharp, very smart,

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Speaker 1: very polished. Fetterman shows up and when he does speak,

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Speaker 1: you think that it's like a robot with the batteries

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Speaker 1: fading in real time, which is obviously not confidence inspiring

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Speaker 1: to anybody who thinks that a United States senator should

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Speaker 1: be somebody who you know, has full ability, health and

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Speaker 1: control of his faculties. But there's a there's a theory.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Clay, it's it's getting out of control. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's very obvious with Fetterman. What's going on here? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and I think this is significant. Even left leaning media

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Speaker 1: is now starting to talk about Fetterman. I'm glad that

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Speaker 1: you brought it up, because I reminded me the Washington

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Speaker 1: Post editorial Did you see this that came out yesterday

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Speaker 1: after our show? John Fetterman needs to debate more than

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Speaker 1: once for the US Senate. This is from the Washington

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Speaker 1: Post editorial board right after our show finished yesterday. They

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Speaker 1: one of their top editors for the newspaper said people

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Speaker 1: need to be able to see the Fetterman and this

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Speaker 1: editorial's pretty pretty crushing. The Federman and campaign squandered credibility

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Speaker 1: by concealing for the public for two days after his stroke.

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Speaker 1: They haven't been forthcoming with his medical history. It's not

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Speaker 1: good enough he's asking I'm reading from the from their editorial,

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Speaker 1: which is I think a sign of a lot of

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Speaker 1: momentum for Oz. He's asking voters for a six year

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Speaker 1: contract without giving them enough information to make sound judgments

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Speaker 1: about whether he's up for such a demanding job. We need.

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Speaker 1: The Washington Post said, full disclosure of his health records,

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Speaker 1: and he should debate mister Oz before voters start casting

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Speaker 1: their ballots, and that this must happen. So, I mean,

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Speaker 1: the fact that the Washington Post is calling him out

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Speaker 1: is a pretty significant detail. Well, these are lagging indicators

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Speaker 1: from regime media. Right when it becomes too obvious, when

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Speaker 1: it is no longer possible for them with a straight

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Speaker 1: face without destroying whatever shred of credibility they have that

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Speaker 1: they're effect based, reality based organization. When it's no longer defensible,

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Speaker 1: then they start to write these editorials. We're at that

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Speaker 1: place with Fetterman. But but my thesis here, Clay is

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Speaker 1: this is a broader theme. There are a number of

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Speaker 1: candidates who are really just trying to trying to do

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Speaker 1: the Biden and the basement routine, hoping that regime media

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Speaker 1: the narratives of Trump and the insurrection, and hey, inflation

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Speaker 1: is not really that bad, it's just really bad, and

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Speaker 1: all these things we're hearing it. You know, the tops decision,

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Speaker 1: the women are going to rush to the polls. It's

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Speaker 1: not even worth Republicans voting anymore. All these things that

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Speaker 1: are i think at some level meant to do Republican

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Speaker 1: and avoid the fact that the candidates the Democrats are

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Speaker 1: putting forward in a number of these key races are

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Speaker 1: just not good. And we talked about Fetterman, which now

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Speaker 1: and this is beyond doubt, and that's this is a

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Speaker 1: health that you mean like, this is deep sinism that

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Speaker 1: he stay, he should suspend his campaign. This is what

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Speaker 1: they're doing is gross. It's wrong that this guy is

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Speaker 1: going to be the Democrat nominee from that state because

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Speaker 1: they're essentially hoping that they can get away with an

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Speaker 1: emperor has no closed situation there worth enough for its

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Speaker 1: not with all the voters, but even in Arizona. Carrie Lake,

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Speaker 1: who we both think is a future star of the GOP,

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Speaker 1: she put out this ad because Katie Hobbs's basically saying

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Speaker 1: I will not share a debate stage with Carrie Lake.

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Speaker 1: Carrie is hitting back on this one. For the first

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Speaker 1: time in the history of our state, there will be

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Speaker 1: no clean Elections gubernatorial debate, bucking state tradition. My opponent,

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Speaker 1: Katie Hobbs has made it official she will not share

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Speaker 1: a debate stage with me under any circumstance. Now, I'd

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Speaker 1: like to speak directly to you, Katie. You think this

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Speaker 1: Clean Elections Commission to extend the deadline for you to

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Speaker 1: confirm your attendance to the day of the debate. Should

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Speaker 1: you grow a spine between now in October twelfth, there

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Speaker 1: will be an empty chair waiting for you on the

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Speaker 1: debate stage. This is what needs to happen. Remember how

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Speaker 1: we said Republicans need to go on offense, need to

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Speaker 1: point out what their opponents they have to force them

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Speaker 1: like one of those crazy left wing gender transition for

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Speaker 1: making your grocery prices and your gas prices go way up.

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Speaker 1: not one of those. It's all a lie, and their

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Speaker 1: game is to have the regime media at the national

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Speaker 1: level and then at the state level. Unfortunately, all the

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Speaker 1: about Georgia. But the biggest, the biggest newspapers in all

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Speaker 1: between that, CNN, the New York Times. They think that

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Speaker 1: they're trying to hide. And I think it's significant not

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Speaker 1: only form from radical propositions that they have a spouse,

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Speaker 1: but how good is Carrie Lake. I mean, she is

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Speaker 1: such a stud I said last week that you know, guys,

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Speaker 1: I know I love to gamble that I would like

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Speaker 1: to go with a parlay. I think Carry Lake is

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Speaker 1: just so smooth. She's incredibly crisp, super talented at communication skills,

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Speaker 1: I think that herschel Walker is gonna win in Georgia,

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Speaker 1: and I believe that doctor Oz is gonna end up

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Speaker 1: winning in Pennsylvania. If I could hit on those as

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Speaker 1: three of those candidates are considered gambling underdogs right now.

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Speaker 1: If you look at the overall market place. You can

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Speaker 1: I think we should have legal we should we should

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Speaker 1: have legal political outcomes gambling in this country. We can sports.

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Speaker 1: Why can't you do it on political outcomes? Because so

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Speaker 1: many of these pundits, man, these people that are, oh,

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Speaker 1: And it's tough, right. If you can get to fifty

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Speaker 1: up like Biff and back to the future. That means

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Speaker 1: you lose forty five percent of the time. But it's

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Speaker 1: hard to beat the market in anything, right, hard to

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Speaker 1: And I just think all three of those candidates, carry Lake,

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Speaker 1: Can you tell me what the I don't mean right

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Speaker 1: to look for this? I'm wondering because my belief right now,

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Speaker 1: That I am more confident on than most other predictions

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Speaker 1: You think I can, I can look up. I will

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Speaker 1: this exact day if you were betting in England right

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Speaker 1: now on that being, you can bet on the matchup

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Speaker 1: You know part two. And that's a perfect and smooth

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Speaker 1: So just getting the lawyers and having to deal with

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Speaker 1: all this nonsense from the DJ about January sixth, that's

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Speaker 1: part of it. Also, it's a distraction tactic away from

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Speaker 1: the wide open border. I mean, do you see you

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Speaker 1: know your colleague at Fox, Bill mulugion, he's got this

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Speaker 1: They want us talking about Trump. Now. That is in

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Speaker 1: issued forty subpoenas in a week, expanding its January sixth inquiry.

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Speaker 1: I don't think they've made the determination to prosecute Trump yet,

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Speaker 1: but I don't think it's off the table yet. Based

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Speaker 1: What I think is going on right now is inflations

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty three is all going to be about Donald Trump,

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Speaker 1: because is he gonna run? Who's gonna run against him?

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Speaker 1: How to Republicans respond to the possibility that he might

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Speaker 1: actually helps Trump somewhat. And this is my conspiracy theory, Buck.

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Speaker 1: I think that Joe Biden owes his entire political past

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Speaker 1: fact that Donald Trump has to run. Biden's only reason

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Speaker 1: Good to have you back. Hey, guys, thanks for heaving

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Speaker 1: has delayed the September thirt release of their report until

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Speaker 1: October of eighteenth. October eighteenth, So this is how all

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Speaker 1: these parts are moving together. Because of course he had

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Speaker 1: the committee working with DOJ, working with the media to

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Speaker 1: make this all happen. So this is going to hit

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Speaker 1: a crescendo before November to interfere in the election. But

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Speaker 1: also I think to justify criminal charges against the Donald Trump. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so let's say you're right, Julie, and Trump gets charged

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Speaker 1: with crimes. What does that mean in your opinion for

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Speaker 1: Trump as a potential twenty twenty four nominee, because I

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Speaker 1: think that's actually the most fascinating part about this. Do

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Speaker 1: charges actually make him more likely to be the Republican

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Speaker 1: nominee less likely? How does this play out as you

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Speaker 1: consider what the primary season would look like during all

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Speaker 1: of twenty twenty three and then into the twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: four primary elections themselves. I mean, that's that is a

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Speaker 1: great question. I really don't know politically how it will

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Speaker 1: play with Republican voters. I know that there are people

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Speaker 1: who after the Mar Mar Lago raid, have achieved a

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Speaker 1: new level of outrage and even support for Donald Trump.

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Speaker 1: You know, this is how he's going to be treated,

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Speaker 1: and by extension, all of us we'll walk through burning

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Speaker 1: broken glass to make sure that he is elected in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. Of course, they want to turn off

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Speaker 1: the squishy Republican you know this is called a sac

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Speaker 1: suburban y moms who they're easily turned off anyway. But

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Speaker 1: how this will energize the base. I feel like it

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Speaker 1: already has and will continue to do so. But look

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Speaker 1: what they want with an indictment of Trump before the election.

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Speaker 1: They want more violence they want the maga violence fascism

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Speaker 1: that Joe Biden and the regime says. They want that

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Speaker 1: to become a self fulfilling prophecy. So that's what they're hoping.

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Speaker 1: Another goal is of this indictment being announced before the election. Julie,

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Speaker 1: is there any of your calling? So many shots here,

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Speaker 1: I know, I'm trying to keep track of it all. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So if they go with the obstruction charge against Trump,

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Speaker 1: what kind of what kind of penalties do we think

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Speaker 1: they would go for? I mean, do you do you

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Speaker 1: think that is their goal? To prosecute Trump so that

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Speaker 1: he is just obviously there's going to be a political

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Speaker 1: wounding effect of that. I've always the first president to

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Speaker 1: ever be indicted in this way. But do you think

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Speaker 1: they would actually take it to the point where they'd say, no,

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Speaker 1: we actually think he should serve six months, you know,

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Speaker 1: we actually want him to be incarcerated. Oh, absolutely, they

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Speaker 1: definitely do so. I've said all along I believe he

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Speaker 1: will be charged, at the very least with obstruction of

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Speaker 1: an official proceeding. You see the language directly pulled from

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Speaker 1: that statute now included in the subpoenas, which has to

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Speaker 1: do with anyone who corruptly attempted to impede or obstruct

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Speaker 1: an official proceeding. That is language, this being used directly

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Speaker 1: in the subpoenas. So yes, look, it's a non violent selony,

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Speaker 1: but it's punishable by up to twenty years in prison.

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Speaker 1: You have people who are going to jail for four,

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Speaker 1: five six years after either plea deals or being convicted

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Speaker 1: in a court on that nonviolent selony. So this will

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Speaker 1: be sort of a no brainer, not only for the

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Speaker 1: prosecutions but for any DC jury because we already have

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Speaker 1: several plea deals and convictions. Now. It is on appeal

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Speaker 1: right now though in the DC Appellate Court this particular charge.

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Speaker 1: If for some reason this court invalidates that count, it

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Speaker 1: will have downstream ramifications, especially for the president for President Trump,

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Speaker 1: but there are other charges they can bring, conspiracy, tampering

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Speaker 1: with evidence, other kind of garbage offenses that they've come

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Speaker 1: up with since January sixth. But yes, they will definitely

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Speaker 1: seek jail time for him, no doubt about it. Julie.

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Speaker 1: We're going to keep having you on. I love all

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Speaker 1: the reporting that you're doing, and if you nail all

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Speaker 1: of this, you're gonna look, you're gonna be one of

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Speaker 1: the most brilliant analysts out there or craziest. Let's sea

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Speaker 1: go from crazy to uh maybe not so crazy. Hey, good,

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Speaker 1: welcome to the team. Yeah. I was gonna say Clay.

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Speaker 1: Clay likes to call shots deep up into the upper deck.

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Speaker 1: So you guys are a good company here. Julie, thanks

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Speaker 1: so much. Thanks guys, have a great date. I love

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Speaker 1: Julie the way she just like almost carry Lake style,

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Speaker 1: just kind of off handedly she what did she called

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Speaker 1: Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton show. We haven't

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Speaker 1: talked a lot about the Queen, although it is worth

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Speaker 1: noting how quickly discussion in many left wing universes turned

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Speaker 1: from oh, let's talk about the queen's nearly seventy years

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Speaker 1: on the throne in the legacy of her, to oh,

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Speaker 1: we want reparations, we want them now. I've always been

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Speaker 1: fascinated buck by the reparation's argument in the United States,

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Speaker 1: in particular, because you know, slavery was only legal in

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Speaker 1: the United States for eighty years. A lot of people

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Speaker 1: never actually do the math on it. United States was

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Speaker 1: a country from seventeen eighty three until eighteen sixty three

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Speaker 1: that allowed slavery to be permitted as an independent nation

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Speaker 1: eighty years. Most reparations for slavery would actually have to

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Speaker 1: be paid by England, because England was in charge of

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Speaker 1: the United States colonies for the vast majority of our history,

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Speaker 1: and England spread slavery to knew what we call the

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Speaker 1: New World. It was. It was an English program. The

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Speaker 1: Transatlantic slave trade was initially an English phenomenon, not solely.

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Speaker 1: There were other countries too, but the English certainly. But

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Speaker 1: you never married anybody who advocates for reparations say, okay,

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Speaker 1: England's on the hook for sixteen nineteen to seventeen eighty three,

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Speaker 1: which is whatever the math is on that well over

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Speaker 1: aundred and fifty years, and then the United States the

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Speaker 1: Emancipatient Proclamation was released became a law on January first,

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Speaker 1: eighteen sixty three. So United States only had slavery for

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Speaker 1: eighty years as an independent nation. Almost no one ever

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Speaker 1: looks at the data and talks about it. But I

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Speaker 1: do think that's worth mentioning as all this reparation's craziness

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Speaker 1: spread surrounding the queen. But Buck Howard Stern is with

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Speaker 1: you in the fact that he's fired up about all

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Speaker 1: the queen coverage, although he wants it all replaced with

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Speaker 1: more talk about Donald Trump, said, Howard Stern has full

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Speaker 1: on caught Trump arrangement syndrome. Yes, he's like, he's like

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Speaker 1: stage four Trump arrangement syndrome. However, even somebody with stage

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Speaker 1: four Trump arrangement can say smart things about other things.

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Speaker 1: Play let's listen to Queen. I mean, it's America. We

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Speaker 1: don't have a queen. I get it. You know, Queen

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Speaker 1: was a nice lady. I guess she was born. You know,

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Speaker 1: my whole life, the queen has been the same queen

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Speaker 1: and it's a tradition there, and she did her duty

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Speaker 1: to her country. I get it, I get it, I

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Speaker 1: get it. But we got to get back to Trump

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Speaker 1: and where those papers are that they found the Marrow

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Speaker 1: lago and now they're saying abstraction of the queen. Now

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Speaker 1: it's like annoying. It's like everyone wants to hear about

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Speaker 1: Trump a Trump twenty four to seven. He's almost super

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Speaker 1: astute point here. The Trump thing is obviously insane, But

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Speaker 1: on the queen thing, Yeah, yeah, America, I'm here to

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Speaker 1: tell you we don't. This is not our thing. This

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Speaker 1: is not our thing that we should be so focused on.

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Speaker 1: I'm just sorry, but that's the truth. Now you and

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Speaker 1: Stern agree on that. Now Stern, to your point, has

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Speaker 1: completely lost his mind. I mean, Howard Stern from the

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Speaker 1: nineties would despise Howard Stern today because he's this meek,

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Speaker 1: perpetually offended, like woke, like pathetic version of himself. And

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Speaker 1: he said on his show, I want to play this

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Speaker 1: because I want you to know what the anti Trump

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Speaker 1: community is out there saying. He says, maybe Trump offered

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Speaker 1: to sell everyone's nuclear secrets to Russia for fifty billion dollars. Now,

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Speaker 1: how this money would ever get to Trump? I don't

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Speaker 1: know that anybody ever tough to hide fifty billion dollars

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Speaker 1: in the couch cushions at Marlago. I'm just gonna say,

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Speaker 1: but here is Trump. This is what This is what

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Speaker 1: Stern said on his show. Buck agrees with him about

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Speaker 1: the queen, but this is how crazy he is on Trump, Like,

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Speaker 1: I think he was trying to prove to the Russians,

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Speaker 1: like I'm really in control here. I've got top secret papers. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 1: he's shown him to the Russian So one of it

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Speaker 1: is just like to prove that he was president in

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Speaker 1: a way he doesn't even believe it. That's the most

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Speaker 1: safe explanation. The other one is this is a guy

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Speaker 1: who badly wants to do business with Russia and Saudi Arabia.

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Speaker 1: Imagine if he says to him, look, man, give me

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Speaker 1: a couple of billion dollars and I'll show you like

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Speaker 1: where France keeps their nuclear weapons, and I'll you know,

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Speaker 1: you guys can see all the if you do business

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Speaker 1: with me, that would be a real dubious, kind of

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Speaker 1: horrible thing. And then the third is a straight out Hey,

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Speaker 1: you guys want to buy this from me? I mean

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Speaker 1: I can sell it to you. Russia for like, you know,

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Speaker 1: fifty billion dollars, this is what you'll have. They'll know

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Speaker 1: everyone's nuclear secrets. This is crazy, buck, because if Trump

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Speaker 1: were really I don't know why this isn't discussed more,

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Speaker 1: if Trump were truly only focused on money, he would

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Speaker 1: have never gotten into politics at all. Politics has cost

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Speaker 1: him a lot of money because all of his properties

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Speaker 1: have taken hits, all of it. I mean, it's a

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Speaker 1: lot dumber than that, Clay. It's really hard to enjoy

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Speaker 1: your fifty you're fifty billion dollars that you've sold nuclear

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Speaker 1: secrets to the Russians from a supermax prison in Colorado. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, Trump, that's crazy. But even the argument that

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Speaker 1: Trump is motivated by money at this point, if he

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Speaker 1: were solely motivated by money, he would have never run

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Speaker 1: for president. It's it's a it's a ridiculous, stupid analysis

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Speaker 1: of Trump. But the problem is that there is this

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Speaker 1: whole industry of finding new ways to say that Trump

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Speaker 1: is the worst person in the history of the world.

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Speaker 1: There's an entire audience of libs of Democrats who think

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Speaker 1: they're very sophisticated and intelligent, and in some cases, I

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Speaker 1: guess think they're rebels. Too, even though they're just totally

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Speaker 1: going along with what the machinery tells them too. Of

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Speaker 1: the Democrat Party, they just want to hear the I'm

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Speaker 1: the worst person ever so crazy ideas with no basis

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Speaker 1: in reality. They love it. Clay. Yeah, and when we

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Speaker 1: come back, I want to hit you with a couple

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Speaker 1: of different data points. One of them is stunning to me.

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Speaker 1: How many people out there, Buck, do you still think

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Speaker 1: believed the Hunter Biden the laptop is disinformation