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Speaker 1: and things like that at the wind and and you

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Speaker 1: know how it how it is in different stadiums, and

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Speaker 1: make and things like that. Nick's Nicks really he's at

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Speaker 1: a very very high level of of of understanding the

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Speaker 1: things that's surround his position. H And as a teammate

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Speaker 1: and um, you know, as as a team member, he's

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Speaker 1: he's as good as it gets. UM. Again, the role

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Speaker 1: as the role, I mean, there's only a few plays

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Speaker 1: that those specialists play in every game. They're not out

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Speaker 1: there all the time. When they're out there, they're all

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Speaker 1: you know, critical situations and UM and and the role

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Speaker 1: really gets magnified for that particular play. UM. But you know,

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Speaker 1: day in and day out, whatever you need him for

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Speaker 1: out there, he's he's always he's always there. He's helpful. Again,

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Speaker 1: very very knowledgeable, UM, I've learned a lot from Nick Folk.

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Speaker 1: I'll say that I've learned a lot. Um and and

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Speaker 1: he's he's he's really taught me a lot about a

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Speaker 1: lot of little things that, um, honestly, I hadn't really

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Speaker 1: thought that much about. And then once he pointed him out,

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Speaker 1: I was kind of you know, I've been kind of

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Speaker 1: disappointed myself that I didn't, you know, didn't put a

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Speaker 1: little more importance on it earlier. Um, but he's really yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's really good. Thank you. Hey, are you welcome