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Speaker 1: Welcome into a Tuesday Texans All Access. I'm DPC. They

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Speaker 1: are joining me tonight, Rude Doherty, John Harris, the Trio.

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Speaker 1: We have not done this show together in a while.

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Speaker 1: Mark Vandamer's out this week, so it's great to have

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Speaker 1: you guys here on All Access inside NRG Stadium for

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Speaker 1: what Mark likes to call the desert. But it's still

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Speaker 1: kind of busy. If you ask me, I feel busy.

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Speaker 1: There will never be a desert that compares the desert

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Speaker 1: of mid March twenty eleven to late July twenty eleven.

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Speaker 1: That's the desert to end all deserts, all deserts in

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Speaker 1: comparison our sandboxes. There would be a there would be

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Speaker 1: a nice irony if Mark were actually in the desert

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Speaker 1: right now, which would be kind of cool because he

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Speaker 1: refers to this as a desert. I totally disagree with them.

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Speaker 1: I think this is not the desert. I think this

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Speaker 1: is This is sort of to me like baseball. It's

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Speaker 1: like home runner, strikeout, like this off like this period.

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Speaker 1: You either get like a really juicy story or you

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Speaker 1: strike out. It's one or the other. And there's some

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Speaker 1: other teams that have to deal with those stories. Thankfully

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Speaker 1: the Texans haven't. But I just read a tweet and

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Speaker 1: I think about this all the time. I guarantee you

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Speaker 1: NFL teams hate hate this time period, hate it. You

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Speaker 1: see what's happening in the Kansas City, You saw what

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Speaker 1: happened to Twyman of the Vikings. They hate this period

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Speaker 1: more than any other. I can imagine. Its stressful. Is

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Speaker 1: all get out to be thinking about what players are doing.

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Speaker 1: And hopefully the Texans don't have any situations like that.

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Speaker 1: But my goodness, this is a tough It's a tough

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Speaker 1: challenge for some teams to try and make it all

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Speaker 1: the way through these five six tweets about anything happening.

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Speaker 1: That's a good point, Johnny. You know, as far as

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Speaker 1: the offseason, people ask me all the time, like, oh,

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Speaker 1: so are you off right now? No, the website is

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Speaker 1: still up. We still have pumping out stories every single day.

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Speaker 1: Johnny is doing Texans All Access every single night, and

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Speaker 1: some capacity or other Drews doing Texans three sixty shooting shows.

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Speaker 1: We're all doing radio, TV, writing stories. We're doing all

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Speaker 1: of it even throughout this time of year. But you

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Speaker 1: know what, Johnny like, as far as the injuries go,

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Speaker 1: I would think that teams, while they're concerned. Don't you

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Speaker 1: think that last year was way bigger of a question

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Speaker 1: mark for these teams because I feel like even in

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Speaker 1: talking to some of these players, this time last year,

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Speaker 1: they were working out on their own, they were trying

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Speaker 1: to find jims. I mean, they weren't traveling or doing

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Speaker 1: anything crazy, but you know, just staying just staying in

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Speaker 1: shape was a big challenge this time last year, which

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Speaker 1: obviously this year it's been a little bit more normal,

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Speaker 1: not completely normal, but a little bit more normal. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't. I mean I think teams, I don't want

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Speaker 1: think that's the least of their worries. I think they

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Speaker 1: can be more worried about, Hey, how is this guy

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Speaker 1: how's this guy going to handle some of his money?

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Speaker 1: You know, what's this guy gonna do? We have to do?

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Speaker 1: We have to worry about this guy. I think the

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Speaker 1: injury part of it is all was a concern, but

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's as as much of a concern

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Speaker 1: as some of the other other things are. You saw

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Speaker 1: what happened with Frank Clark, you know, with the Kansas

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Speaker 1: this is not unusual, if you will, for Frank Clark

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Speaker 1: to have offseason activity, if you will. And I think

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Speaker 1: that's what teams worry about more so than the injury part.

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Speaker 1: I mean, now, sure can they mean, can they get

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Speaker 1: those kind of things. But it's the other kind of things.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, Jalen Twiman got shot in Washington, And

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Speaker 1: I mean he's not thought of as a bad guy

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Speaker 1: and he's hopefully gonna be okay. That's the statement the

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Speaker 1: Vike he's put up. Of My goodness, those are things

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Speaker 1: to me that you worry about. Last year, there was

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Speaker 1: were some hiccups, but it all happened. And uh, and

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Speaker 1: now you're gearing up for basically it's pre pandemic almost

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Speaker 1: a one hundred eighty degree turn from what we were

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Speaker 1: going through this time a year ago. And just to

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Speaker 1: piggyback off of the story stuff you were talking about

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Speaker 1: and how it sometimes it's tough and sometimes it's a

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Speaker 1: desert Mattie something here. We got to go see Gary

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Speaker 1: Kubiak about two months ago, and when we left we're

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Speaker 1: driving away from his ranch. I was like, internally, I

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Speaker 1: three hours of this into a video? And the guys

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Speaker 1: like a seventeen minute video that it's gonna come out

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Speaker 1: in a week or two, maybe even sooner. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: gonna be really fun and good part of Texans history

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Speaker 1: look back at him, and yeah, I know, John, you're

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Speaker 1: takes from that when you see it. Well, I was

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Speaker 1: so jealous because when you shot that with Kubs out

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Speaker 1: I said, Hey, what's retirement like, and he was kind

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Speaker 1: I mean, the guy. The guy was was brilliant when

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Speaker 1: And he's connected. He's been around to so many different places,

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Speaker 1: so I just think he's I don't think he's finished

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Speaker 1: pro personnel. So I'm not sure that Gary Kubiak is

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Speaker 1: finished with football as of right now. All right, I

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Speaker 1: like it. You know what what you refer to as

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Speaker 1: the sandbox. The twenty eleven obviously Kubiak was was coaching

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Speaker 1: even all the uncertainty surrounding the NFL and the Texans

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Speaker 1: heading into twenty twenty one, nothing compared to twenty twenty.

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Speaker 1: Well as far as yeah, yeah, dB. I think the

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Speaker 1: You know, there's scandals in sports, right this is like

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Speaker 1: You know, different scandals, right O. J. Simpson's scandal is

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Speaker 1: anything to that whatsoever. Again, sort of like you know,

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Speaker 1: that because I went back and rewatched that documentary on

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Speaker 1: past the anniversary. Well we're Bronco Chase, isn't that crazy? Well? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I've gone back and watch that documentary. So I kind

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Speaker 1: or you know it was. It was, so it was

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Speaker 1: the completely opposite. I compare everything to O. J. Simpson. Now,

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Speaker 1: So with that being said, Drew asked me this question

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Speaker 1: It's a great fodder because now we have some more

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty one training camp. We're about six weeks or so,

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Speaker 1: five to six weeks away still, so I want one

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Speaker 1: to see him also a preseason regular season games. I'm

426
00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:20,240
Speaker 1: just excited to see him back there for the return game.

427
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Speaker 1: All Right, you guys need to give me one thing

428
00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:25,359
Speaker 1: you're excited about that has not not nothing to do

429
00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:28,760
Speaker 1: with the team or the Texans, but just in general

430
00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:31,320
Speaker 1: off the traveling. He said, going to Green Bay. I'm

431
00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:33,760
Speaker 1: just excited to travel again. I know John didn't last year,

432
00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:37,000
Speaker 1: but you're what he missed us, He missed the good style.

433
00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:39,720
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm ready to get back every other week

434
00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:43,359
Speaker 1: basically getting on a plane, spending one night in a city,

435
00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:46,760
Speaker 1: you know, going out, getting a good meal with you guys. Uh.

436
00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:49,479
Speaker 1: Just I miss going and seeing these other stadiums and

437
00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:52,120
Speaker 1: being on the road and doing this. I'm looking forward

438
00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:55,080
Speaker 1: to that. Green Bay will be awesome too. Sounds like

439
00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:57,840
Speaker 1: you're gonna sounds like the Texans will practice with him.

440
00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:00,320
Speaker 1: That's not been confirmed or anything, but I think that

441
00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:02,399
Speaker 1: I would think that you practice with them before that

442
00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:05,000
Speaker 1: preseason opener up in Green Bay. Drew's got a lot

443
00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:07,040
Speaker 1: of little kids, and I know that feeling of just

444
00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:11,120
Speaker 1: wanting giving a hotel room. Yeah, uninterrupted. You can watch TV.

445
00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:12,919
Speaker 1: You don't have to put on closed captioning because you

446
00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:15,200
Speaker 1: can hear what they're saying. You don't hear a little

447
00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:18,320
Speaker 1: bunch of little voices. Love. I know you love your kids.

448
00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:20,560
Speaker 1: I love my kids too, but really it's like a

449
00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:22,320
Speaker 1: little mini vacation. I don't blame you. You You know what

450
00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:24,919
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to. I'm looking forward to the return

451
00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:27,399
Speaker 1: of in person interviews. We saw Tom Pella Sero tweet

452
00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:31,440
Speaker 1: about it last week that media in Tier two can

453
00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:34,560
Speaker 1: conduct in person interviews, and I'm kind of excited about

454
00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:37,040
Speaker 1: that because all Zoom is a great technology and it's

455
00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:39,520
Speaker 1: been great getting know these players. I don't feel like

456
00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:42,680
Speaker 1: it's it's it's not the same. You just don't build

457
00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:45,439
Speaker 1: that same rapport with players. You get to get to

458
00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:47,439
Speaker 1: know them and joke around with them as you do

459
00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:49,919
Speaker 1: in person. So I hope that sticks. I hope we're

460
00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:52,119
Speaker 1: able to do that throughout the season. I know, for

461
00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:53,800
Speaker 1: training camp, I think we're allowed to do it because

462
00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:55,800
Speaker 1: we'll be outside. So I don't know what it's gonna

463
00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:56,879
Speaker 1: be like during the season. I don't know if we're

464
00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:58,119
Speaker 1: gonna be in the locker room or if it's going

465
00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:00,720
Speaker 1: to be in the radio studio. But I cannot wait

466
00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:02,760
Speaker 1: for in person interviews because we haven't done one since

467
00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:08,840
Speaker 1: nineteen Yeah, in December. Yeah, I mean, I mentioned my

468
00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:11,440
Speaker 1: our trip to Green Bay, so I was specific about

469
00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:14,160
Speaker 1: the traveling last year, and look, I'm not gonna take

470
00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:18,000
Speaker 1: it for granted, But you guys weren't with me. I

471
00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:19,680
Speaker 1: was dealing with a I was dealing with a bat back.

472
00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:21,639
Speaker 1: I had a surgery on. We had to stay in

473
00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:24,320
Speaker 1: our rooms. You could get room service. It was really

474
00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:26,160
Speaker 1: it was confusing, like are we supposed to order room

475
00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:28,840
Speaker 1: SUPs from not? Can we order breach or not? Like

476
00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:31,880
Speaker 1: it was totally just it was off. I mean, everything

477
00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:33,640
Speaker 1: was off. And it goes back to my point about

478
00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:35,960
Speaker 1: OJ Simpson the twenty twenty season. Everything that you just

479
00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:38,840
Speaker 1: knew and we're used to is is gone. I'll say

480
00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:41,359
Speaker 1: one last one as far as the radio crew goes,

481
00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:43,880
Speaker 1: it's gonna be awesome to just have the radio crew

482
00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:47,160
Speaker 1: in the same freaking building we had. We had games

483
00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:49,600
Speaker 1: last year where that we would be in three or

484
00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:52,359
Speaker 1: four different places and that was that was a that

485
00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:54,320
Speaker 1: was a home game. That was a home game we

486
00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:56,679
Speaker 1: had that happened, but on the road. I would go

487
00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:59,840
Speaker 1: on the road, but Andre Mark would stay and he

488
00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:03,439
Speaker 1: and it was it was awful, and you know, we

489
00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:05,320
Speaker 1: got we got the job done, and I feel like

490
00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:07,320
Speaker 1: we did some good broadcast. But that was just such

491
00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:10,919
Speaker 1: a weird thing, you know, because they would ask me

492
00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:14,080
Speaker 1: about things like hey, what's this or why am I

493
00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:16,320
Speaker 1: seeing this? And normally they could just look down with

494
00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:19,679
Speaker 1: their bnoculars, but it was oh, okay, well this is

495
00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:22,480
Speaker 1: happening over here, and it was it was just it

496
00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:24,960
Speaker 1: was weird. So hopefully we can get back to doing

497
00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:27,360
Speaker 1: our full radio crew doing the games this year, which

498
00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:31,040
Speaker 1: on site should be fun. I can't wait do that, Johnny.

499
00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:32,840
Speaker 1: I really thought your answer was going to be not

500
00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:36,040
Speaker 1: having to get the nasal swab every single morning before

501
00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:38,280
Speaker 1: eight am. Yeah, I've gotten so used to it. I

502
00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:40,600
Speaker 1: would have complained a lot more about that. You were

503
00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:44,040
Speaker 1: just me. Yeah, it didn't bother me at all. I mean,

504
00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:46,679
Speaker 1: even even in which we weren't you know, there were

505
00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:50,840
Speaker 1: times where we weren't Christmas Day every single day, John

506
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:54,399
Speaker 1: Harris and anyone that attested. The best one was the

507
00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:59,000
Speaker 1: day after surgery. I am just I'm I'm gassed up

508
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:01,040
Speaker 1: and I'm just like, why is she having to drive

509
00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:03,440
Speaker 1: me up there to stick that thing in my nose?

510
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:06,280
Speaker 1: And I'm just like laying back and they just walk

511
00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:08,199
Speaker 1: in and go bang bang and did it. It just

512
00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:10,600
Speaker 1: it kind of became part of, you know, part of

513
00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:13,080
Speaker 1: the thing. So when they said vaccination time, I'm like,

514
00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:16,760
Speaker 1: I'm in. I'm in, so I don't I don't mind it.

515
00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:19,159
Speaker 1: Look if it helps keep us safe, I'm cool with it.

516
00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:21,800
Speaker 1: But hopefully that's and look for all the things that

517
00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:23,879
Speaker 1: we mentioned, the biggest thing, and I know I'll suiting

518
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,000
Speaker 1: for all three of us, just keeping everybody safe, keeping

519
00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:28,560
Speaker 1: the fans safe. But I got a feeling that the

520
00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:31,479
Speaker 1: energy and the buildings this year is gonna be just

521
00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:35,720
Speaker 1: watching NBA playoff games, watching baseball games, watching college baseball games,

522
00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:39,120
Speaker 1: and energy for live sports has never to me been

523
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:41,520
Speaker 1: better just watching that this summer. So I can imagine

524
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:43,040
Speaker 1: the NFL games are gonna be a little bit the

525
00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:45,480
Speaker 1: same way hopefully that they are. Yeah, I think having

526
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:48,200
Speaker 1: fans at everything is definitely all of our favorites because

527
00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:49,920
Speaker 1: it will be great to have fans back in the stadium,

528
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:52,800
Speaker 1: back at training camp, back everywhere we go. Definitely looking

529
00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:54,200
Speaker 1: forward to that. All Right, We're gonna take a break,

530
00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:57,760
Speaker 1: and tonight is the NBA Draft Lottery, so you can

531
00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:00,240
Speaker 1: actually check out the NBA Draft Lottery specialist Sean Penner,

532
00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:02,680
Speaker 1: guest and Adams Bolene after the show. But I'm gonna

533
00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:05,320
Speaker 1: do a modified lottery game with you guys, and it's

534
00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:07,720
Speaker 1: related to the Texans in the twenty twenty one season,

535
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:10,040
Speaker 1: So we're gonna play a little round to that. We

536
00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:14,479
Speaker 1: come back, Texans All Access continues, don't go anywhere. Welcome

537
00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:17,600
Speaker 1: back Texans All Access DP Drew John Harris with you

538
00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:20,399
Speaker 1: here on a Tuesday night. All right, guys, before the break,

539
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:23,760
Speaker 1: I talked about the NBA Draft Lottery, So it's a

540
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:25,920
Speaker 1: kind of a big deal with the Rockets and maybe

541
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:27,919
Speaker 1: getting the number one pick. I know everyone's gonna be

542
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:31,000
Speaker 1: watching that. They should actually listen to Sports Radio six

543
00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:33,600
Speaker 1: ten because there will be an NBA Draft Lottery special.

544
00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:36,600
Speaker 1: Sean Pennery, gust and Adamspellane's coming up right after us.

545
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:38,520
Speaker 1: And you know what, that got me thinking that there's

546
00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:40,560
Speaker 1: got to be a way to tie this draft lottery

547
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:43,720
Speaker 1: to an offseason show. So I'm gonna try my hand

548
00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:46,159
Speaker 1: out a little lottery game of my own. And I

549
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:47,680
Speaker 1: don't have a name for it, so we'll just call

550
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:50,800
Speaker 1: it untitled lottery game. But you have the choice of

551
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:56,679
Speaker 1: three numbers, three choices. Your choices are free agent, rookie,

552
00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:59,800
Speaker 1: or veteran. And I'll tell you how this goes because

553
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:03,159
Speaker 1: it's pretty easy. I'm gonna give you a description and

554
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:05,199
Speaker 1: your answers can be one of those are one of

555
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:08,679
Speaker 1: your three lottery numbers. It's going to be either the

556
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:10,639
Speaker 1: answer is going to be a Texans player that was

557
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:13,240
Speaker 1: signed as a free agent, a Texans player that was

558
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,679
Speaker 1: a rookie heading into twenty twenty one, or is a

559
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:18,359
Speaker 1: rookie or a Texans player who was a veteran of

560
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:21,240
Speaker 1: the team, meaning he's been here since before this twenty

561
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:23,159
Speaker 1: twenty one off season. So as you know, we have

562
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:25,080
Speaker 1: a lot of new new faces on the team. So

563
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:29,120
Speaker 1: that's actually quite a small number, all right, So let's

564
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:30,760
Speaker 1: let's start with this first one. Let's start with an

565
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:36,359
Speaker 1: easy one or self explanatory. Who will have the most

566
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:40,480
Speaker 1: rushing yards for the Texans in twenty twenty one free agent,

567
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:45,320
Speaker 1: A rookie or a veteran free agent. I think it's

568
00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:49,720
Speaker 1: Philip Lindsay man Drew jumped all over that. Man, I

569
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:52,040
Speaker 1: got you something, you know me. That's that's how I

570
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:53,760
Speaker 1: will say that. And then he'll say, and then I'll say,

571
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:56,680
Speaker 1: but maybe also mark Ingram also another free agent, and

572
00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:59,560
Speaker 1: then he'll list every single person because he likes everyone's

573
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:02,479
Speaker 1: Christmas presence. I think it's gonna be Philip Lindsay, because

574
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:05,200
Speaker 1: only one man can have the most yards unless they tie,

575
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:07,720
Speaker 1: which I don't think that will happen. I think it'll

576
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:12,000
Speaker 1: be Philip Lindsay. I do I think total yardage wise,

577
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,880
Speaker 1: I think it's David Johnson. Yeah, we were talking about

578
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,480
Speaker 1: rushing yards, so because I do think I do think

579
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 1: Philip Lindsay is a better receiver than people give him credit,

580
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:23,960
Speaker 1: but which would make my answer veteran. So I'm gonna

581
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 1: go I'm gonna go with that. I'm gonna go with

582
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 1: it just to go oppo Drew. I think David Johnson

583
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 1: would have more total yards. I do think that Philip

584
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:32,679
Speaker 1: will have more rushing yards if he stays healthy. I

585
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:34,640
Speaker 1: do think that number is close. But I do think

586
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:37,520
Speaker 1: that David Johnson in the receiving game is going to

587
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 1: be that much more helpful to whoever the quarterback is

588
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 1: going to be for twenty twenty one, for all seventeen weeks,

589
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 1: eighteen weeks, seventeen games. So I'm gonna go, I'm gonna

590
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:51,400
Speaker 1: go veteran because I'm going with David Johnson and just

591
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 1: like buy a hair rushing total. But if you said

592
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 1: total yards, I would say David by not significant, but

593
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:02,320
Speaker 1: I do think he'll I mean, David Johnson catches thirty

594
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:05,160
Speaker 1: yards worth of passes. He's five hundred yards plus in

595
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 1: the receiving game, thirty yards per game. That's it. This

596
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:10,720
Speaker 1: Towards the end of the last year, it seemed like

597
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 1: Tim Kelly and they were using him more in the

598
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 1: receiving game. I wonder how that continues this year, now

599
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:18,840
Speaker 1: that they've had a sort of the whole offseason. That's

600
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:22,160
Speaker 1: a different running backs room, the offensive line is different.

601
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:24,400
Speaker 1: I wonder if that continues, if David Johnson's going to

602
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 1: be primary receiver, or if or if it'll be what

603
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 1: if his Rex burkehead, what if it's somebody else, What

604
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 1: if David Johnson's getting a lot of carries. I'm really

605
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:33,480
Speaker 1: curious to see how that plays out. Well. That would

606
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:36,280
Speaker 1: go with Drew because Drew said free agent, which doesn't

607
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 1: mean specific guy now he said Phil plindsay, but that

608
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:43,239
Speaker 1: gave us him three options to my one. But you know,

609
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 1: I'll take I'll take my odds with the lottery that

610
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:49,120
Speaker 1: David Johnson will be that guy. I don't want to listen.

611
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 1: I don't want to derail the game because I want

612
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 1: to play this, but piggybacking off of what John was

613
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:56,560
Speaker 1: talking about in the last segment about positivity in the building,

614
00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 1: which is a very very important aspect of the twenty

615
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:02,480
Speaker 1: twenty one suster. I think this what you what you

616
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:06,040
Speaker 1: bring up here deep has made me think I believe

617
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 1: this idea of having a chip on your shoulder and

618
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 1: having extra motivation then you normally would and John and

619
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 1: I think we discussed this on the podcast last week.

620
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 1: I think that's a big deal too. A lot of

621
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 1: guys are on one year deals. A lot of guys

622
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 1: are you know, they want to do their best and

623
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:29,200
Speaker 1: that will help the team play better, but they want

624
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:32,000
Speaker 1: to they want to put good film out there for

625
00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:35,080
Speaker 1: other teams for next year, for March, you know, or

626
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:37,680
Speaker 1: to stay here in Houston. So I think that's going

627
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:39,840
Speaker 1: to be a factor as well. You you you might

628
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:42,400
Speaker 1: hit on some of these guys can hit really really

629
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:45,959
Speaker 1: big who are essentially playing in contract years. I think

630
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 1: that's something to remember as well when you sort of

631
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 1: evaluate and look and think what's this team will look

632
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:54,640
Speaker 1: like in twenty twenty one anyhow? Sorry, okay, all right,

633
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 1: good fair point, fair point, all right, We're going to

634
00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 1: sneak that in. Okay, this now, this is a little

635
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 1: bit trickier most receiving yards. I mean you couldn't. You

636
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:05,440
Speaker 1: couldn't you could add in a tight end. So if so,

637
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:09,560
Speaker 1: you choose to do vetan. I think I think this

638
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 1: is of the two. I think this is an easier question.

639
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 1: I think it's Brandon Cooks as long as it's as

640
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 1: long as Brandon stays healthy. I think it's Brandon Cooks

641
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 1: last year watching him work and watching him operate, and

642
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:23,480
Speaker 1: watching him operate at the speed with which he does.

643
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 1: I mean, look, there are fast guys and then there

644
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 1: are fast guys that do it under control. You know,

645
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:34,600
Speaker 1: everybody thinks about fast. Oh, run deep, run deep. Brandon

646
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 1: Cooks is I mean, he can go deep on you

647
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 1: if you if you want. But what he does is

648
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 1: he sells the speeds so well they can break down

649
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 1: and get in out of his cuts so quickly. That

650
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 1: to me is what makes Brandon Cooks great. I think

651
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 1: I think it's a veteran because I think it's Cooks,

652
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 1: it's QT, or it's brand Brandon Jordan Nakens. I think

653
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 1: it's one of those three guys. I think it's Cooks. Yeah,

654
00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:00,520
Speaker 1: I was gonna say what Jordan NAKs can sneak in there.

655
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 1: I wouldn't. I wouldn't count him out. But yeah, I

656
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 1: don't know if he gets more than Brandon Cooks. What

657
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 1: about the other What about the other free agent receivers?

658
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 1: Where do you think they stuck up? Chris Moore, Chris Conley.

659
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm with John on this. I don't think

660
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:14,200
Speaker 1: there's any question as far as every if everyone stays healthy,

661
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 1: it's Cooks. I mean, Cooks pumps out thousand yard receivers

662
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 1: thousand yard receiving season. It doesn't matter whether he's in

663
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 1: New Orleans, in Cobb. We didn't even mention Cobb. Yeah,

664
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:26,880
Speaker 1: but I'm I mean, I think it's Cooks. I just

665
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 1: don't see him faltering or or any of that. I mean,

666
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 1: he looked crisp out there at OTAs. I think he's

667
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 1: primed for another good season. I think it's going to

668
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:37,640
Speaker 1: really benefit whoever's throwing him the ball, whether it's to

669
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:40,560
Speaker 1: Rod Taylor, whether it's or it's Davids Mills. All right,

670
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:48,120
Speaker 1: how about this most let's go defense, most sacks veteran?

671
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 1: Which one? I answered this question the other day? Okay,

672
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 1: the game says, I don't have to say who would

673
00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 1: be Now, I'm just kidding. That's just gonna follow up

674
00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 1: out of my own curiosity, because I think it could

675
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 1: be a number of better. I told you, I told

676
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 1: Mark this, and he almost fell out of his chair.

677
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 1: John Garnard, Okay, it'd be cool. I like that answer, though,

678
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:13,000
Speaker 1: And here's here's why I think. When I watched Grenard

679
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 1: at the University of Florida, I remember thinking, boy, I

680
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 1: think he can play either three four or four three,

681
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 1: And then I would watch him play the run. I

682
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 1: watched how violent he was, and I said this a

683
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago. But then I went back and

684
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 1: I watched him against the Titans again today, and I thought, man,

685
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:32,760
Speaker 1: he plays violently. He plays with twitch, he plays with power.

686
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 1: He does a lot of differently. He's very skilled as

687
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 1: a rusher, like he's got a number of different moves,

688
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 1: but he plays with with twitch and power, and I

689
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 1: love that. And I think he will have less of

690
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:48,280
Speaker 1: a transition to a down four or three position, if

691
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 1: you will, than anybody else. Look, Shack Lawston is definitely

692
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 1: gonna be in that mix. But I just think, you know,

693
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:55,240
Speaker 1: Charles A. Manner, who's gonna be an m mix and

694
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 1: Charles would end up being a veteran, so he's on

695
00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 1: He's on my side on this as well. But I

696
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 1: just think and even Whitney would be on my side

697
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 1: with saint veteran. But look, would Derek Rivers surprised me

698
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:08,320
Speaker 1: if he stepped up and became a surprise on the outside. No.

699
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:10,320
Speaker 1: I love Derek Rivers coming out of Youngstown State, and

700
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 1: I hate the fact that in twenty seventeen at the

701
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:14,799
Speaker 1: Greenbrier he got hurt Gerner's practices and that really kind

702
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 1: of slowed his career. But I just feel like John

703
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:20,279
Speaker 1: Grenard's the type of guy that can be on the

704
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:23,440
Speaker 1: field for three downs, can do what they want to

705
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 1: do from the edge perspective, He's got side, he's got

706
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:29,799
Speaker 1: everything you're looking for. So I'm gonna go veteran and

707
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:31,919
Speaker 1: it almost turns into a rookie to me. The guys

708
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,400
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty are almost like rookies, so it's almost

709
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:38,359
Speaker 1: like pseudo rookie slash veteran. So I'm going with John Grenard. Yeah,

710
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 1: I like that is. I was gonna say, Charles a minna,

711
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:42,399
Speaker 1: who I thought that was? I thought that was gonna

712
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:44,960
Speaker 1: be your first choice. But yeah, I think I think

713
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 1: you did. You pulled a Drew Johnny. You basically rattled

714
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 1: off every single player that could possibly veteran that could Yeah,

715
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:53,440
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be a veteran also, And I

716
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:56,919
Speaker 1: could see it being not a huge number, like not

717
00:34:56,960 --> 00:35:00,239
Speaker 1: necessarily a double digit number, but I could kind of

718
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:02,719
Speaker 1: see a bunch of veterans bunching up and getting like

719
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 1: six sacks, seven sacks, you know, and then some of

720
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:09,440
Speaker 1: the some of the free agents too. I could just

721
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 1: see it kind of role in that way. Yeah. Maybe,

722
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:15,880
Speaker 1: you know, John, you brought up that stat about getting

723
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:18,400
Speaker 1: to the quarterback. Maybe this year you bring him down

724
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:20,880
Speaker 1: a little bit more finish. Yeah, yeah, you finish than

725
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:23,839
Speaker 1: you have in your years passed. But I think it's

726
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 1: gonna be somebody from that combo of what like John said,

727
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:30,840
Speaker 1: Grenard a Mena, who I do think Whitney Merciless's numbers

728
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:32,879
Speaker 1: go back up just a tick. You know. I think

729
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:37,239
Speaker 1: we've we've heard from the coaches. Came in, Leaner came

730
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 1: in in better shape. He's going back to what he

731
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:43,440
Speaker 1: originally played in college when hey, I mean when he

732
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 1: was a junior at Illinois led the nations in nations

733
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:49,279
Speaker 1: in sacks and forced fumble sixteen and nine. And yeah,

734
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 1: that's a long time ago. I know it's a decade ago,

735
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 1: but I do think there is we're talking about chips

736
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 1: one shoulders. I think there's probably one on his shoulder

737
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 1: too that he wants to prove last year was not

738
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:01,720
Speaker 1: who he is too. All Right, one quick one before

739
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:05,359
Speaker 1: we go to break most interceptions, because I know that's

740
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:08,279
Speaker 1: something Lovey Smith really wants to see more of this year.

741
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:10,759
Speaker 1: I know all the Texans do, obviously, because last year

742
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:12,960
Speaker 1: was just such a down year when it came to takeaways.

743
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:16,239
Speaker 1: Who's gonna have the most interceptions? Should we open it

744
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:20,160
Speaker 1: up to turnover forced turnovers? Would that be easier? First

745
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:22,759
Speaker 1: of all, you've got to get into mindset and uh,

746
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:27,959
Speaker 1: Miles Smith told me this and Lovey confirmed it. They're

747
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 1: not turnovers, they're takeaways. There, takeaways, I said, forced turnovers.

748
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:37,400
Speaker 1: I'm going to say interceptions. Watch this, I'm going veteran.

749
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:42,440
Speaker 1: I'm going Zach cutting him. Okay, just because he has

750
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:44,319
Speaker 1: to play all over the place in the system, and

751
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:46,880
Speaker 1: just play all over the place in this system, he

752
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 1: is asked to do a little bit more downfield than

753
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 1: h you know, in other systems. And we'll also what

754
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 1: Zach was was asked to do last year. So I

755
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 1: think Zach's going to be in coverage now. He's a

756
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:01,280
Speaker 1: he's a heck of a blitzer and rusher. That said,

757
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:03,799
Speaker 1: he is going to be in coverage a little bit more.

758
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 1: He's got good ball skills, really good instincts. And Vetchan

759
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 1: also gives me Bradley Roby too, So I'll take one

760
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:13,879
Speaker 1: of those two. I'll take it. Also gives you Justin Reid.

761
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:17,799
Speaker 1: Justin Reid is the one that you Yeah, a nice

762
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:22,920
Speaker 1: one hundred and one touchdown return interception return for a

763
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 1: touchdown would be nice. Well, good back. I mean, I'll

764
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:27,359
Speaker 1: take ninety nine. I'm not picky. Alright, guys, let's take

765
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:29,719
Speaker 1: a break. There's some news, a little bit of news

766
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:32,920
Speaker 1: brewing in the AFC South. Was there a diss against

767
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:37,279
Speaker 1: the Jacksonville Jaguars player. We will investigate without one final

768
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:39,719
Speaker 1: segment of Texans All Access coming up right after this,

769
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:44,319
Speaker 1: welcome back. One final segment of Texans All Access. We

770
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:47,760
Speaker 1: go around the league. All right, So there's a tight

771
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 1: end you summit this week and Jacksonville Jaguars tight end

772
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:55,319
Speaker 1: Tim Tebow was not invited. It's actually a real, a

773
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:57,480
Speaker 1: real life event. It's held in Nashville by forty nine

774
00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:00,839
Speaker 1: ers tight end George Kittle and form our NFL great

775
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 1: tight end Greg Olsen, who's now retired. So the two

776
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 1: of them invited about fifty tight ends throughout the NFL.

777
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:11,960
Speaker 1: Tim Tebow not invited. Was this a diss or? Was

778
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:17,839
Speaker 1: it not a dis what do you guys? No, trutality ends,

779
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:22,320
Speaker 1: it's Reality's not. Let him. Let him earn his way

780
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:25,440
Speaker 1: into the group. How about that. Let him earn his

781
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:28,399
Speaker 1: way into the group. In twenty twenty two, he can

782
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:31,239
Speaker 1: be a featured speaker at the tight Ends Imposium or

783
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:34,840
Speaker 1: whatever they're calling it. But until then, nah, Yeah, they

784
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:38,040
Speaker 1: didn't made the team yet. Yeah, and actually, I mean

785
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 1: he's a Heisman Trophy winner, but I guess that doesn't

786
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 1: really mean anything when it comes to your position groups.

787
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 1: Because the two actually did an interview, I want to

788
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 1: say it was they were on a podcast, but they

789
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:50,800
Speaker 1: said nothing against Tim Tebow. But there were so many

790
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 1: backup tight ends that didn't get invited that two teams

791
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 1: didn't even have two from each team. Mathematically for every team,

792
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:00,760
Speaker 1: I mean maybe there are, but then mean some teams

793
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:04,719
Speaker 1: didn't have one. Yeah, he's a third or fourth guy

794
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 1: at best, right, I mean, is it you would think,

795
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:09,439
Speaker 1: is it still learning the position? Even? Does he even

796
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 1: know what you need to know to even? I think

797
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:13,440
Speaker 1: Owen Daniels would tell you when he was in his

798
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:15,840
Speaker 1: thirties he was still learning the position, you know. I

799
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:17,800
Speaker 1: think those guys are all the best ones are always

800
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 1: still learning and getting better. The the eventuality of it

801
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:25,759
Speaker 1: is that he may not be a tight end. He

802
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:29,319
Speaker 1: might be an h back, fullback kind of thing and

803
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 1: kind Yeah, I mean tight end, tight end as I

804
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:34,880
Speaker 1: do it air quotes, nobody can see me on radio

805
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 1: has become so different. So I think they could probably

806
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:42,719
Speaker 1: try find. The thing for Jacksonville is they don't have

807
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 1: any tight ends. It's James O'Shaughnessy and like that's it.

808
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:50,800
Speaker 1: So they don't they don't really even have anything in

809
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:54,279
Speaker 1: Jacksonville to speak of. So he's got a shot to

810
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 1: make the roster, I think, But they don't have any

811
00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:02,360
Speaker 1: Their tight ends are chrisp Man, Hurts, Luke Farrell, James O'Shaughnessy,

812
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:08,279
Speaker 1: Tyler Davison, Ben Ellison. I mean that's the best they've got,

813
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:12,200
Speaker 1: so from that perspective, they may need him. He just

814
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 1: isn't there yet, and if they have to rely on him,

815
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:18,239
Speaker 1: they'll be in some trouble. I just never understood why

816
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:20,760
Speaker 1: he didn't make the switch so much earlier in his career,

817
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 1: like pre baseball, when he when he came out into

818
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:26,400
Speaker 1: the NFL, he didn't make the switch. Then after his

819
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 1: quarterback career sort of flamed out, Why why didn't he

820
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:31,400
Speaker 1: make the switch? Then? Why did he just leave the NFL.

821
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 1: I just feel like it's a little star timing of

822
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:35,799
Speaker 1: It's so odd. Now now it seems like he's a

823
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:38,759
Speaker 1: few more years removed, and I just don't know. I

824
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 1: just maybe, I mean, it'll be great for selling tickets

825
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 1: though for the Jags. I think, well, there are two

826
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:46,920
Speaker 1: schools of thought on Jacksonville on him. Some love him,

827
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:49,880
Speaker 1: some hate him. I mean, it literally is a polarizing topic.

828
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:51,959
Speaker 1: I mean sometimes some people in Jacksonville are just tired

829
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 1: of it and tired of Tebow, like, come on, man, seriously.

830
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:57,720
Speaker 1: Then there are some that just live and die because

831
00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 1: he is from Jacksonville West Jacksonville West Side. But he's stubborn.

832
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:06,480
Speaker 1: He thought he was a quarterback back. He believed he

833
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:08,400
Speaker 1: was quarterback. It's all he ever played, It's all he

834
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:10,719
Speaker 1: ever wanted to play. He was the one that didn't

835
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 1: want to make the change. And so when football sort

836
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 1: of humbled him and then baseball did and he was like, hey,

837
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:17,520
Speaker 1: I want to give us thing a shot. Here's what

838
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:18,799
Speaker 1: I need to do to be able to do it,

839
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:20,759
Speaker 1: he decided to make the change. He was the one

840
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 1: that didn't want to make that change. That's why he

841
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 1: was bouncing from team to team to team because he

842
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 1: didn't want to make a change out from quarterback. I

843
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 1: give him credit for sticking to his guns, but it's

844
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 1: resulted in this situation now, as opposed to maybe if

845
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:35,359
Speaker 1: he changed earlier. Who knows what he could have done

846
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:38,239
Speaker 1: over those years he missed well. In either case, we

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Speaker 1: will probably get to see him here at NRG Stadium

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Speaker 1: Week one, Texans host the Jaguars. I cannot wait. That

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Speaker 1: seems like such a long time away that I'm pretty

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Speaker 1: sure we're gonna blink and it's going to be over

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Speaker 1: all right, guys, that feels like this show. I feel

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Speaker 1: like I blinked and it's already over. We've got Texans

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Speaker 1: all access back again tomorrow. John Harris Drew's got Texans

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Speaker 1: three six. You've got a great guest this Saturday night, Drew.

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Speaker 1: You want to tell us about that pro bowler and

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Speaker 1: twelve year veteran Wade Smith. So we're talking offensive line.

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Speaker 1: It's going to be some fun conversation. He had some

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Speaker 1: nice tidbits that he pointed out that you're gonna want

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Speaker 1: to hear and see on Saturday night, ABC thirteen ktr

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Speaker 1: K at eleven PM. All Right, thank you so much,

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Speaker 1: and don't go anywhere because coming up right after this show,

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Speaker 1: the NBA Draft Lottery Special with Sean Pennergast and Adam

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Speaker 1: Spoiling right here in Sports Radio six ten. Everyone out there,

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Speaker 1: thank you so much for listening. As always, Go Texas,