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Speaker 2: Good Mornings? We were then Welcome to the No Dunks

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Speaker 2: podcast on the Athletic Network. It's Tuesday, June seventh. Here

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Speaker 2: we are in the Classic Factory. I'm G skeetzon alongside

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Speaker 2: me as always Task Melons. Hello everybody, Hey, Task, We've

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Speaker 2: got our top shot hop always right there. That's Trey Kirby. Hey, hey,

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Speaker 2: wo the international Man of mystery taking it to the

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Speaker 2: barber shop. Lee ellis new cut for me.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, needs a little work by the

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Speaker 2: And last, certainly not least, super producer JD. Hello, there

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Speaker 2: Shout out to the stream team. Joining us live right

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Speaker 2: Dunks at the Athletic dot Com Quick programming note for

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Speaker 2: the rest of the week, Here Trey and Lee. They're

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Speaker 2: headed to Boston later today for Games three and four

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Speaker 2: of the NBA Finals. Yeah, that's why you got there fresh,

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Speaker 2: you guys are headed later today. Make sure you're following

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Speaker 2: course on YouTube, because you guys are gonna be dropping

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Speaker 2: social content all week long. When you're in Boston. That's

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Speaker 3: On wed probably around three East and something like that.

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Speaker 2: Game three of the NBA Finals on late Wednesday night,

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Speaker 2: little mini reaction podcasts uh, and we'll be talking to

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Speaker 1: But this is bad stuff. I do think for the

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Speaker 3: He's got a bit of a Ben Simmons to him though,

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Speaker 2: Look he's going.

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Speaker 3: Like I think he's I think he's I think you

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Speaker 1: You want DeAndre and to go shoot free throws at

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Speaker 4: It is very funny. Now we're talking about video games.

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Speaker 4: I understand that maybe he's not the most dedicated guy,

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Speaker 2: The other potential sign and trade proposal that Hollinger had

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Speaker 3: Purdle's good, solid, probably a better defender, but no, we're

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, he scored seventeen points per game.

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Speaker 1: I think Ayton to me doesn't seem like a very

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Speaker 1: and what I said, Something isn't right, something needs to change.

432
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Speaker 1: What should it be. There's not a suggestion. There's like

433
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Speaker 1: no suggestion here. And like Adam Silver mentioned, all sides

434
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Speaker 1: agreed on this in the collective bargaining agreement that this

435
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Speaker 1: would be the best way to do it with no bias,

436
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Speaker 1: because it's like, are the players gonna be unbiased? Not

437
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Speaker 1: a chance? Are the general managers gonna be unbiased? Not

438
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Speaker 1: a chance? Are the media gonna be unbiased? Not a chance.

439
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Speaker 1: So I don't know exactly what the solution is. But

440
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Speaker 1: Silver's like, we're gonna look at it. We're gonna look

441
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Speaker 1: at it, and if you guys see anything, you tell

442
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Speaker 1: me then we might figure something out. Because they're just

443
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Speaker 1: not a great solution here, except for of course, the

444
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Speaker 1: NBA Supreme Court. We have a small number of voters

445
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Speaker 1: for the finals, MVP for the conference finals MVPs as well,

446
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Speaker 1: Bill Russell, Jerry West, Kareem, Larry Magic, Michael Jordan, Allen, Iverson,

447
00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:18,600
Speaker 1: Dirk and Wade. Those guys vote on everything.

448
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Speaker 2: The Supreme Court.

449
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Speaker 1: The Supreme Court. Okay, they've all got some serious credentials.

450
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Speaker 1: Everybody but Iverson's got a title. They've all got MVPs

451
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Speaker 1: except for Wade. It's the entire spectrum of generations throughout

452
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Speaker 1: the years. Just let those people vote on it.

453
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Speaker 2: Okay, what do you think of this?

454
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Speaker 4: Yeah?

455
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Speaker 3: I do think there is something there. I really Supreme Court, Yeah,

456
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Speaker 3: I do.

457
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Speaker 2: I like it because you want it all former players.

458
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Speaker 2: Do you want to get some Hall of You want

459
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Speaker 2: to get Huby in there? Do you want to like

460
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Speaker 2: mix it up? You could do a little bit.

461
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Speaker 3: Well, Huby's a Hall of Fame coacht. Yeah.

462
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Speaker 2: Yeah, So I'm saying media coaches, you know, I'm just

463
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Speaker 2: taking Trey's idea and maybe making it a little broader.

464
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Speaker 3: I think if you're in the Hall of Fame, then

465
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Speaker 3: you that's your eligibility, so then you know that's how

466
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Speaker 3: you qualify. But I also think a lot of this

467
00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:02,639
Speaker 3: is to do with the contract bonuses and if you

468
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Speaker 3: meet certain criteria you get the ability to sign for more.

469
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Speaker 3: So maybe also just remove that and if your if

470
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Speaker 3: team wants to sign you to whatever the max is,

471
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Speaker 3: they should be able to sign you to it. So

472
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Speaker 3: then it's not like only if you make this, only

473
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Speaker 3: if you make all MBA, only if you do a

474
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Speaker 3: certain thing, because there isn't a perfect formula. Because if

475
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Speaker 3: you say, well, let's just do it on a statistical basis,

476
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Speaker 3: then you're gonna have someone who's on there who's maybe

477
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Speaker 3: not deserving, but they maybe met the criteria for a

478
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Speaker 3: statistic And then what is it? Is it points? Is

479
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Speaker 3: it rebounds, is at some point some rebound top five rebounds, whatever.

480
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Speaker 3: So I like the fact that Adam Silva knows, like

481
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Speaker 3: it's not perfect. We have to try to find a solution.

482
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Speaker 3: But I do think the biggest problem the players have

483
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Speaker 3: is that their bonuses are tied to it, and that's

484
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Speaker 3: what they don't like. So remove that part of it

485
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Speaker 3: and then give this Supreme Court chance a shot.

486
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Speaker 2: And then a no brainer. I assume you think, just

487
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Speaker 2: get rid of positions, just give us the fifteen best players,

488
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Speaker 2: because you've said that before.

489
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Speaker 3: It yeah, I have said that before, and I think again,

490
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Speaker 3: that's when it does eliminate this guy who finished second

491
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Speaker 3: in MVP voting, couldn't make the first all them. I

492
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Speaker 3: think you should automatically be on that first All NBA team.

493
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Speaker 3: If you are in the top three, if you are

494
00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:06,919
Speaker 3: the top three players in the league, you should be

495
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Speaker 3: on that first team. And it's again, it's not a

496
00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:11,560
Speaker 3: game you play. It's more the accolade. It's more the

497
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Speaker 3: end of season recognition.

498
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Speaker 2: So yes, I think, so okay tasks that's on all this.

499
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Speaker 4: Take the MVP voting and apply it to all NBA.

500
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Speaker 4: Done and done. You got your top five, make the

501
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Speaker 4: first team, next five, make the second team. You probably

502
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Speaker 4: don't have fifteen votes, but we'll figure that part out.

503
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Speaker 4: But this year it would have been perfect. It was Jokic, Embiid, Yiannis,

504
00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:37,480
Speaker 4: Devin Booker, and Luka Dacic. It was perfect. That's the

505
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Speaker 4: first five, and that's that's what you should do. We

506
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Speaker 4: don't need a vote on everything. The voters get tired,

507
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Speaker 4: Oh let's vote on all rookie and all defense. I

508
00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:47,800
Speaker 4: mean they start they start tired is not the right word,

509
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Speaker 4: but they start not caring about every single vote that

510
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Speaker 4: they have to vote for. I do agree that you know,

511
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Speaker 4: the guys who are getting paid more, the thirty five

512
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Speaker 4: percent of the cap. When you use that Derek Rose

513
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Speaker 4: rule when guys make all NBA or whatever they get, Yeah,

514
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Speaker 4: just give it to one guy. I think Lee's right.

515
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Speaker 4: Just make it so there's one slot on a team

516
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Speaker 4: and it shouldn't be connected to awards. I don't think.

517
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Speaker 4: Just has to be a decision made by a front office,

518
00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:15,000
Speaker 4: done and done, I think well.

519
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Speaker 2: Sticking with Silver's press conference, the commission also said that

520
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Speaker 2: he is open to reducing the length of the regular season.

521
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Speaker 2: Here we go again with this. These comments absolutely set

522
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Speaker 2: off Richard Jefferson, who said the idea of the NBA

523
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Speaker 2: shortening its eighty two game season makes quote absolutely no sense.

524
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Speaker 2: In fact, r J believes that the league is becoming

525
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Speaker 2: too soft and shortening the season will take away from

526
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Speaker 2: the difficulty of playing basketball at the highest level. Quote

527
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Speaker 2: I'll give you a part here. If you haven't seen it,

528
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Speaker 2: seek out Jefferson's a little rant about this, but quote,

529
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Speaker 2: you want to shorten the season, how much more do

530
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Speaker 2: we have to make this coddling and all this stuff

531
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Speaker 2: go with the players? Professional sports is not good on

532
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Speaker 2: your body. It's supposed to separate the people that can

533
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Speaker 2: do it from the people that can't.

534
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Speaker 3: Do it.

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Speaker 2: Part of greatness is longevity. End quote. Jefferson had to

536
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Speaker 2: say about this, But Lee, should the NBA shorten its

537
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Speaker 2: season or does Jefferson have a point?

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Speaker 1: Here? Are you do? You?

539
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Speaker 2: Are you siding with what RG was going off about.

540
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Speaker 3: J sounds a bit like an old man got off

541
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Speaker 3: my lawn, because I think that's what was the mentality

542
00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:16,399
Speaker 3: in the eighties and ninety to get out there and

543
00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:19,080
Speaker 3: play every single game. But I think as we've evolved

544
00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:21,360
Speaker 3: and technology has gotten better, and we've got sports signist

545
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Speaker 3: saying listen, it's probably better if you don't play all

546
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Speaker 3: these eighty two games because then the longevity of the

547
00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:29,480
Speaker 3: back end of your career will be extended. And Richards

548
00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:31,280
Speaker 3: have to look at some of the players in the league.

549
00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:33,879
Speaker 3: How many star players look at the season and go

550
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Speaker 3: eighty two games. I'm playing seventy seventy five this year.

551
00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:39,040
Speaker 3: I'm load managing, which is I think a smart approach

552
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Speaker 3: to again prolonging your career.

553
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Speaker 2: It doesn't think the players are doing that.

554
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Speaker 3: I think that. I think the players are for sure.

555
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Speaker 2: I think a lot of people will push back on them,

556
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Speaker 2: seeing the players are not usually the one saying I

557
00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:51,520
Speaker 2: don't want to play basketball. It's the staffs, the medical

558
00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:54,280
Speaker 2: team saying you shouldn't. Our science says you should be

559
00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:56,840
Speaker 2: taking off these back to backs four and fives, fives

560
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Speaker 2: and sevens.

561
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Speaker 3: But I think I think players are saying, though, I'm

562
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Speaker 3: taking off some games throughout the season. I mean, Kawi

563
00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:04,480
Speaker 3: Lennard took his third game off for the Raptors and

564
00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:06,920
Speaker 3: now he blew out his knee. Anyway, so it doesn't necessarily,

565
00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:10,200
Speaker 3: you know, make it necessarily better for you. But I

566
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:12,639
Speaker 3: think we just have to look at it. And the

567
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Speaker 3: owners aren't going to change the length of the season

568
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Speaker 3: because it's money for them. It's a revenue, it's people

569
00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:18,560
Speaker 3: coming in the doors. So if you shorten the regular

570
00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:21,080
Speaker 3: season and then do this midseason tournament, ultimately it's the

571
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Speaker 3: same way of getting a different way of getting to

572
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Speaker 3: the same amount of games, if not more. But I'm

573
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Speaker 3: just a little surprised at Richard Jeffson's saying, you know,

574
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Speaker 3: they're coddling the players and things like that. I mean,

575
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Speaker 3: it's better, I think for the players to play better games.

576
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Speaker 3: The NFL the biggest advantage the NFL has over the

577
00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:39,919
Speaker 3: NBA's every game feels like it's must win. Whereas the NBA,

578
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Speaker 3: we have a couple of games at the end of

579
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Speaker 3: the season. They've just added the plan which feel so

580
00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:46,760
Speaker 3: must win, there's so much fun. Now you have to

581
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Speaker 3: figure out a way to get the other eighty two

582
00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:50,480
Speaker 3: games to feel that same way. I think there's just

583
00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:52,719
Speaker 3: too many games. I would reduce the season, but I

584
00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:55,120
Speaker 3: know that's not going to happen. I think I think

585
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Speaker 3: less is more in this situation. Get better quality games,

586
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Speaker 3: even if it means few of the fewer of them

587
00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:03,359
Speaker 3: throughout the season. But I also understand going to an

588
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:05,480
Speaker 3: owner and say we're going to take five home games,

589
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Speaker 3: five home gates away from me this season. They'll let no,

590
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Speaker 3: we don't care the quality of the game. We just

591
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,120
Speaker 3: want games out there. We want the revenue every single knight.

592
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Speaker 3: So that's what's not gonna change.

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Speaker 2: What do you guys think of Jefferson's comments?

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Speaker 1: Is Richard Jefferson a hot take merchant? Htm is a

595
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Speaker 1: burgeoning hot take mergent merchant. I would say my biggest, uh,

596
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Speaker 1: my biggest take on this is that he says that

597
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Speaker 1: if they shortened the season, there's still going to be

598
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Speaker 1: rest days. I don't think that would be the case.

599
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Speaker 1: I would think if they shortened the season, you would

600
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Speaker 1: see less rest days. You're getting a better product on

601
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Speaker 1: the court, and it makes the regular season more important.

602
00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:42,080
Speaker 1: But on the other hand, the NFL's lengthening their season.

603
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Speaker 1: I bet they wish they could play eighty two games

604
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Speaker 1: even though they only got seventeen. So Lee's right, things

605
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Speaker 1: probably won't change to the extent that you know some

606
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Speaker 1: of the front offices would like with their players sitting.

607
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Speaker 1: Because I'm kind of with you, Skeets. I think it's

608
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Speaker 1: mostly that the players want to play, but management and

609
00:26:57,600 --> 00:26:59,960
Speaker 1: it's coming and saying it's probably better if you don't play,

610
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,640
Speaker 1: no better, do better. So the players are taking their

611
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:04,480
Speaker 1: advice and trying to lengthen their careers. I thought it

612
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:07,399
Speaker 1: was interesting what Silver said, though, is that the length

613
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 1: of the season doesn't necessarily affect injuries, right, Like, you're

614
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:12,439
Speaker 1: not as you're not more likely to get injured in

615
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:14,680
Speaker 1: game eighty two than you are in game fifty eight.

616
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:16,880
Speaker 1: But you're more likely to get injured in game fifty

617
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 1: eight if you've played three games in five nights, right,

618
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:21,119
Speaker 1: than if you've played one game in five nights. So

619
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Speaker 1: shortening the season gets the best product on the court.

620
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,399
Speaker 1: But I think that the NBA wants just product on

621
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:29,440
Speaker 1: the court more so than the best product.

622
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Speaker 4: What do you think, Well, I think they are implementing

623
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Speaker 4: this potential midseason tournament to lessen the games, and there

624
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:38,520
Speaker 4: wouldn't be the exactly amount of games. There'd be less

625
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 4: for many of the teams when you equal it out,

626
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:44,920
Speaker 4: and that is money for everybody else. So I think

627
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:49,399
Speaker 4: they will think about shortening the season because they should.

628
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 4: Why can't things get better? I mean, we just watched

629
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Speaker 4: a clip of Jack Nicholson smoking on the sideline. That

630
00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:59,080
Speaker 4: doesn't happen anymore in an NBA game because things got better.

631
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Speaker 1: They don't.

632
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:05,320
Speaker 4: They don't truck out these players to play eighty two

633
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 4: games and then not give them the care that they

634
00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 4: need because they want things to get better. That's what

635
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:14,120
Speaker 4: the goal in life is. Why can't it be better?

636
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:17,160
Speaker 4: Richard Jefferson, he was a very durable player. Maybe he's

637
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Speaker 4: speaking from his own position of his own experience, extremely

638
00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 4: durable player in seventeen years. So I don't understand why

639
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:29,480
Speaker 4: you call it coddling. People just want the best product

640
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:33,879
Speaker 4: out there, and why not want that for NBA fans,

641
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,080
Speaker 4: for NBA owners, And I think Adam Zilver is just

642
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:38,520
Speaker 4: trying to find that balance. He's trying to find money

643
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,720
Speaker 4: for everybody as well. That's part of it. But this

644
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 4: mid season tournament is trying to find a balance. If

645
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 4: everybody plays ten less games, but they play you six

646
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Speaker 4: more games in the tournament, but that has this advertising

647
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 4: umbrella on it, then there's money to be had.

648
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:56,920
Speaker 2: Do you think that's really gonna happen, That we're gonna

649
00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:59,160
Speaker 2: go from eighty two games to let's say seventy two,

650
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 2: but we'll have this season tournament, the tournament, we're adding

651
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:04,160
Speaker 2: more games.

652
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:06,240
Speaker 4: Not taking now when they did the mat there's no

653
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 4: way it's more games. It's less games for some teams.

654
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:09,720
Speaker 4: There's no way they would do that.

655
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:12,320
Speaker 2: Maybe split the difference, not down to seventy two, closer

656
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 2: to yeah, seventy six.

657
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 4: I mean, the report is out. The report is out.

658
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 4: From when they talked about it, it's they're working towards that.

659
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 4: They're working towards taking care of the knees. Guys used

660
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 4: to play only twelve twelve seasons. Now they play potentially

661
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 4: seventeen eighteen. Things are getting better. I don't understand why

662
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 4: we need to, you know, drill these guys into the ground.

663
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 4: It doesn't really make sense now, it doesn't.

664
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Speaker 2: I guess Jefferson's saying you can go you can go

665
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 2: one direction too far, though, because he also added like, well,

666
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 2: now they get a you know, a week plus off

667
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 2: at All Star break and obviously pull back to well,

668
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 2: this is what I think r J's doing. I was

669
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:50,480
Speaker 2: thinking about this. This is like us twenty years from now,

670
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:53,040
Speaker 2: where we're done this and we find out, well, there's

671
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 2: a daily podcast, but they're not really daily. They only

672
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 2: gotta go three days a week. Save the voice a

673
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 2: little bit, save their hot takes. You know, they get

674
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 2: a good break off at All Star week. We would

675
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:06,960
Speaker 2: be the ones go, oh god, come on, you're coddling

676
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 2: the podcasters.

677
00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:10,240
Speaker 4: No, we should be doing that. What we would have

678
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 4: we would perform way better.

679
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 3: Oh gee, that's.

680
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 4: What people are doing. That's what people talk for. Three

681
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:18,080
Speaker 4: hours on a Tuesday, three hours on a Friday. Call

682
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 4: it a week and they feel better. But yeah, he's

683
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 4: probably old man yells at Cloud a little bit sure,

684
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:27,160
Speaker 4: And yeah, he played twelve hundred games. He again, he

685
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:28,480
Speaker 4: was extremely durable.

686
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 3: You always got the Old Star weekend off there and

687
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:36,120
Speaker 3: he was in the dunk contest, believe it or not,

688
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:37,080
Speaker 3: two thousand and three.

689
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:40,000
Speaker 4: I'm surprised he didn't make that the All Star Game.

690
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:42,400
Speaker 2: But he could throw down.

691
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:43,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he could. Yeah.

692
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 2: All right, Well, this is gonna be a fascinating one,

693
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:48,280
Speaker 2: I'm sure in the stream team and the comments and

694
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:51,520
Speaker 2: all that thoughts on Richard Jefferson's rant about this, and

695
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:53,680
Speaker 2: you know, McCallum and Reddick iff talked about it since,

696
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 2: I know in the last couple of days and sort

697
00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:58,720
Speaker 2: of pushed back against Jefferson, and you know, you know,

698
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:01,360
Speaker 2: McCall him a current player, Reddick a little just just

699
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 2: removed from the league, So they have different opinions.

700
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:06,960
Speaker 4: We're so married to this eighty two games? Who gives

701
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 4: a flying poop? Because somebody once upon a time said

702
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 4: this is how many games they should play? Who cares?

703
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 4: Who cares? Why not shorten it?

704
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 1: Why?

705
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 4: Why are we married to some number? If it's seventy two,

706
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 4: are we gonna sit back and yearn for the days

707
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 4: of eighty two? Yeah?

708
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:28,480
Speaker 1: People don't want to learn something new. They still forget

709
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:30,720
Speaker 1: that there were only seventy two games last season, and

710
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 1: that there were sixty six before, right, People forget about

711
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 1: that stuff.

712
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly.

713
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 2: Okay, next one here, Darvin Ham said. He says, oh yeah,

714
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:39,040
Speaker 2: Darvin Ham.

715
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Speaker 3: Baby.

716
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:42,480
Speaker 2: He said he thinks Russell Westbrook still has a ton

717
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 2: left in the tank. During his official introduction as Lakers

718
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 2: head coach on Monday, quote, don't get it messed up.

719
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 2: Russell is one of the best players our league has

720
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:53,480
Speaker 2: ever seen. Ham said he still has a lot left

721
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 2: in the tank. Defensively, he went on to say, is

722
00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 2: where you're gonna see us make our biggest leaps and bounds.

723
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 2: So my question is I thought this was a great

724
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,920
Speaker 2: official introduction for a head coach. I love seeing Ham

725
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 2: in his giant head talking hoops. Key takeaways though from

726
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 2: Ham's press conference task either about Westbrook or things he

727
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 2: said about eighty or anything about the Lakers.

728
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 4: I love Darvin Ham. First, we all get excited for

729
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 4: his last name. What about his first name?

730
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 2: Great, it's a great it's a great name over all, right,

731
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 2: Darvin Ham.

732
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 4: Yes, and a great press conference. Westbrook was in attendance,

733
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 4: standing ye, standing there watching, and Darvin Ham brought the goods.

734
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 4: He complimented Russell Westbrook by saying he is one of

735
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 4: the best of all time and he's got he's got

736
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 4: a lot left to give. Listen me watching this, I

737
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 4: was ready to run through a wall for Darvin Ham. Yeah.

738
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 4: I appreciate the way he he speaks, and I think

739
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 4: he's going to get a lot out of his players.

740
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:52,480
Speaker 4: This year. The Lakers stuck on defense. It's only the

741
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 4: season before this year that they were number one, and

742
00:32:55,880 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 4: obviously player personnel changes. Yeah, so the number one defense

743
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 4: was going to fall off, but they also just lack

744
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 4: the attitude. And I think Darvin Ham can bring that

745
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 4: attitude and he's going to ask that of Russell Westbrook. Now,

746
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 4: Westbrook's not gonna shut anybody down.

747
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 2: If he can get Westbrook playing defense and changing his game,

748
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 2: you can give Darvin hamatually right now.

749
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 4: I know he's not going to be shutting anybody down,

750
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 4: but if he can be gambly steely Westbrook, you know,

751
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:24,480
Speaker 4: if he can even just get in the lanes Westbrook,

752
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 4: that's a big improvement to me. Maybe we're talking about

753
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:32,440
Speaker 4: Dwight Howard late career. You remember, and when we were

754
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 4: daily podcasting in twenty thirteen, twenty fourteen, twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen,

755
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 4: twenty seventeen, we're saying, we're saying, is this the year

756
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:41,000
Speaker 4: Dwight Howard comes back to form.

757
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 2: Is this the year? No?

758
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 4: This this this is the year? No, this is theear

759
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 4: And then when he finally got to the Lakers, that

760
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 4: was his best year. Obviously it wasn't anywhere close to him. Yeah,

761
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:53,160
Speaker 4: but I think that's what we're saying about Russell Westbrook.

762
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 4: If Darvin Ham can can reduce his minutes, it's going

763
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 4: to be a challenge. It's going to be a challenge

764
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 4: to ask Russ to reduce his minutes his role somewhat.

765
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:02,959
Speaker 4: But you can still be a starter. You just have

766
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 4: to work on defense. And if there's anyone up to

767
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 4: the task. It feels like, after one press conference, after

768
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 4: thirty minutes listening to this man talk, that it could

769
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 4: be it could be Darminham. I think he's got the

770
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 4: guts to be the Lakers head coach and he's going

771
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 4: to ask his players to play some defense.

772
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:22,799
Speaker 2: Right, hold him accountable. I thought it was great too.

773
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:25,320
Speaker 2: What'd you think or key takeaways from from Ham's press conference.

774
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:27,719
Speaker 1: I'm not a big Ham fan. Worst meat to me,

775
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 1: Oh so I would not be running.

776
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 3: Merchant.

777
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:36,400
Speaker 1: Take you Ham and she's merchant. I don't mind the

778
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:36,840
Speaker 1: hot Ham and.

779
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 4: Coming around.

780
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 1: Slice it nice, but Thicky, no, quickie, I don't know

781
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 1: what I'm saying at this point. Yeah, let's see what happens. Honestly,

782
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:51,680
Speaker 1: let's see what happens. If Darvin Ham gets Westbrook defending

783
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:54,239
Speaker 1: and willing to go to the bench, then that guy's

784
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 1: gonna win Coach of the Year next season because they'll

785
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 1: still have a solid team as long as Lebron and

786
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:01,960
Speaker 1: ad can be can stay healthy. That's the big that's

787
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 1: always the big question with the Lakers, that those two

788
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 1: are around. At least he got a chance, and we

789
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 1: shall see what happens with Westbrook, because, like Tasa is saying,

790
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:12,400
Speaker 1: when they won a championship, they played championship level defense.

791
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:15,239
Speaker 1: Then they traded all those guys for Russell Westbrook and

792
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:17,480
Speaker 1: fell apart completely. I think it's a little bit of

793
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 1: wishful thinking. But Darvin Ham, he says, I've seen real

794
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:23,279
Speaker 1: pressure in life, so to me, this is fun. You've

795
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 1: got Dwight Howard there, who did go through stardom the

796
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:29,920
Speaker 1: depths of his career and now a role player. Exact

797
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 1: same with Mellow, Like those are two guys that you

798
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 1: could look at and say that's what I need to

799
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 1: do to be successful on this team. So if it

800
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 1: doesn't happen next season, it ain't happening. But I don't

801
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 1: know how many times have we said that for West. Yeah, yeah,

802
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:45,279
Speaker 1: it doesn't happen. It doesn't happen next year. It a

803
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:47,279
Speaker 1: little more off ball movement. He's just got to cut

804
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:48,240
Speaker 1: more off the Yeah.

805
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:52,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, that's that's My main takeaway is until that

806
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:55,359
Speaker 3: Ruster improves, is not a whole lot dobn Ham can

807
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:58,000
Speaker 3: really do to change everything about them to get them

808
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 3: from what thirty three wins to sixty wins or anything

809
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 3: like that. They need better players, they need younger players.

810
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 2: You need Anthony Davis healthy. He did say, yeah, I

811
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 2: like to say that guy's got to play. Yeah, how

812
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 2: old a lot better when he plays.

813
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, they are, but they still need more than that.

814
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:13,279
Speaker 3: It's all those role players that he brought in last year,

815
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:15,920
Speaker 3: Roblinka that were duds. I mean, he's got to get

816
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:18,280
Speaker 3: rid of those. Also. Darvin Ham shot in the face

817
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:21,319
Speaker 3: by accident, he said April five, nineteen eighty eight. So

818
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 3: when he says he don't feel no pressure, he means it.

819
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 3: He's been there. So I like Stephen A. Smith, like

820
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 3: you ain't going to push this man around physically.

821
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 4: Mentally or emotionally.

822
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 3: It's true. He's a big it's a big presence, and

823
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 3: I think that is good. You know, like I thought,

824
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 3: you can just tell this guy has been ready for

825
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:40,759
Speaker 3: an opportunity like this. He was very well spoken. He

826
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:42,439
Speaker 3: said all the right things that you have to say

827
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:44,279
Speaker 3: to Prescott. He's not going to throw anyone under the

828
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 3: bus or or try to make a scapegoat out of anyone.

829
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 2: He's trying to build these guys up. Actually, wat Brogs

830
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:50,680
Speaker 2: makes it sound like, well, we're at least going to

831
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:52,759
Speaker 2: try and bring them back because we can't treat them

832
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:54,839
Speaker 2: for anybody. Yeah, and we don't want to include more

833
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 2: picks in the future, so let's try and get Westbrook

834
00:36:57,960 --> 00:36:59,240
Speaker 2: fired up, and yeah.

835
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:01,360
Speaker 3: Have them run it. He's been an assistant coach, so

836
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 3: he's like he's seen it all. He's been there. He's

837
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:06,160
Speaker 3: been on the championship team there of the Bucks and

838
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 3: of the Lakers, no the Piston, excuse me, back as

839
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:11,399
Speaker 3: a player in two thousand and four. So he's ready

840
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 3: for this moment and I wish him all the best.

841
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:16,359
Speaker 3: But again, they need a much improved roster as well,

842
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 3: so we'll see what they can do in that second.

843
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:20,760
Speaker 4: That's a right. I was surprised to see a line

844
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 4: out there for the Lakers to make the playoffs. Which

845
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 4: was the favorite. You can bet on the Lakers, yes

846
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:27,759
Speaker 4: or no to make the playoffs, and that is the

847
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 4: top six, and the Yes was the overwhelming favorite, which

848
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:35,240
Speaker 4: is surprising to me when you look at the Western

849
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:39,439
Speaker 4: Conference landscape. Suns, Warriors, MAVs, Grizzlies, Clippers will be back,

850
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 4: the Nuggets, Helicans, Yeah, some tea Wolves in there. To

851
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:43,720
Speaker 4: make the top six.

852
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:46,719
Speaker 2: It's not a luck. But then again, if you have

853
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:50,280
Speaker 2: Lebron and you.

854
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:51,279
Speaker 4: Have odds out there, if you want to bet no,

855
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 4: you got some good eyes.

856
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:53,440
Speaker 3: Well.

857
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:57,439
Speaker 2: Related to Darvin Ham and his press conference, coach don't lie,

858
00:37:57,719 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 2: sources have told The Athletic that four time NBA also

859
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 2: Rashid Wallace has agreed to join the Lakers coach staf

860
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:07,839
Speaker 2: excuse me, as part of Darwin's Darbnham's team there, he's

861
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:08,799
Speaker 2: going to be an assistant coach.

862
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Speaker 3: She is.

863
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 2: He was most recently an assistant at the University of

864
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:14,360
Speaker 2: Memphis under Penny and he did spend some time I

865
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:17,760
Speaker 2: forgot this with the Pistons. Yeah yeah, back in thirteen fourteen.

866
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:20,719
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, well I forget because someone had a big

867
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:22,360
Speaker 3: dunk and he was up there jumping a ram with

868
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:24,479
Speaker 3: all the players in that. Yeah, you know, don't often

869
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 3: see that. So that's why I'm excited to have you back.

870
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 3: I think it's going to be great.

871
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:29,759
Speaker 2: Okay, well, Trey you Goeta started those thoughts on she'd

872
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:32,319
Speaker 2: joining Darvinham's team there in LA.

873
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 1: I think exciting news for one day. Assistant coaching news

874
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:39,759
Speaker 1: is exciting to read the headline. You see the name,

875
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 1: You remember the name. That's awesome. I remember that, and

876
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 1: then they're just an assistant coach. Remember when Amari Stattamire

877
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 1: joined the nets? Yes, remember anything else about the ma

878
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:51,920
Speaker 1: statlemyre joining the nets?

879
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:53,640
Speaker 4: He sits in the second row. That's weird.

880
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 1: He left the team after the playoffs this year. I

881
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:57,759
Speaker 1: didn't know that when I was looking it up today,

882
00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:00,040
Speaker 1: because that's what it is. You know, he signs on.

883
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 1: You're like, this is cool. Maybe he'll celebrate a dunk.

884
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:04,440
Speaker 1: Hopefully it's Darvin Ham. I would love to see if

885
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 1: Darvin Ham can still throw down. That's what he should

886
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 1: do a practice. I could still dunk can you guys anyways,

887
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:13,760
Speaker 1: she'd is cool because I remember him. I remember reading

888
00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:15,920
Speaker 1: in high school that Rashid Wallace would be a great

889
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:19,520
Speaker 1: coach someday because he knew what every player on the

890
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:21,359
Speaker 1: court was supposed to be doing for every play, not

891
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 1: just his position. But now that I'm a grown man,

892
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:27,080
Speaker 1: I think that should be the bare minimum for an

893
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 1: NBR professional at this point. Yes, you should know all

894
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:31,880
Speaker 1: of the plays for everybody. I do think it's a

895
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:35,280
Speaker 1: little comical if he's coming in specifically to help Anthony Davis,

896
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 1: because the knock on Rashid Wallace is that he took

897
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 1: too many jumpers and didn't get everything out of his potential,

898
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 1: which sounds like someone I know. You've even heard suggestions

899
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:48,919
Speaker 1: that he's there to help ad with the mental side

900
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 1: of the game. Rashid Wallace had forty one texts in

901
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 1: a season, and it's one of the most notorious slackers

902
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:58,879
Speaker 1: if the past two decades. But I'm happy he's back

903
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:01,520
Speaker 1: as well, super happy. It'll be fun to see him

904
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 1: on the bench, and then we're gonna have no idea

905
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:03,759
Speaker 1: what he's actually doing.

906
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:06,880
Speaker 2: Maybe I'll let a spark under Anthony Davis get some

907
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:08,040
Speaker 2: I guess.

908
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:10,840
Speaker 3: They changed the rule basically because of him. Yeah, text

909
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 3: unbreakable at sixteen. And I remember him also saying talking

910
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 3: about players like Richard Jeffson, him saying, most players only play,

911
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 3: you know, seventy eighty percent of games at full strengthen

912
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:22,319
Speaker 3: and then they mail in a few.

913
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:25,399
Speaker 2: So I also think it's funny the idea of him

914
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:27,200
Speaker 2: coming in to help ad and hey, maybe he does,

915
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:30,319
Speaker 2: like maybe they just connect or whatever. But Anthony Davis

916
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 2: is on the NBA's all time seventy five greatest Players.

917
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:36,839
Speaker 2: It's like, it's not like he's a second year guy

918
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:38,839
Speaker 2: that needs some guidance here. I mean, he just needs

919
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:41,360
Speaker 2: to play what he plays. He's pretty damn incredible, So

920
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:44,400
Speaker 2: I think that is funny. But yeah, any final thoughts

921
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:45,439
Speaker 2: on she joining him.

922
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 4: Here, I think they should turn up the mics on

923
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:51,279
Speaker 4: the rims so we can hear she yelling, because there's

924
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:51,919
Speaker 4: gonna be some yelling.

925
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:53,759
Speaker 2: So ball don't lie, it's gonna be it's gonna happen,

926
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 2: gonna be yellow there.

927
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:56,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, we all just see it all on Twitter.

928
00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 4: Great bald online, bald On. Let's hear the original, Okay,

929
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 4: let's hear it.

930
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:02,359
Speaker 2: Again, all right, well, let's hear from everybody out there.

931
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:05,240
Speaker 2: Lots of news and notes happening in the NBA during

932
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 2: the break in NBA Finals games. Let's hear your opinions

933
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:10,120
Speaker 2: on all of those topics. We'll take our first break

934
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:13,400
Speaker 2: when we come back. We're sticking with the Lakers with

935
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:15,719
Speaker 2: something very unique when it comes to Lebron James and

936
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:20,879
Speaker 2: possibly his foray into podcasting anywhere. Absolutely love to see

937
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:23,920
Speaker 2: the numbers we're doing here on and off day during

938
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 2: the NBA Finals. So if you're new to No Dunks

939
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:28,319
Speaker 2: here on YouTube, hit that like button and make sure

940
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:30,360
Speaker 2: you subscribe and hit that little bell button to a

941
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:33,280
Speaker 2: little notification so you know when we're going live. Especially

942
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 2: these guys tomorrow from Boston, they don't even know when

943
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 2: they're going live. Could be any time in the afternoon. Ready,

944
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:41,360
Speaker 2: you're going to eat the lobster before the show or

945
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:41,879
Speaker 2: after the.

946
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:44,880
Speaker 3: Show, maybe one on or tonight might be sandwich the

947
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 3: show around it, do one before and then one off.

948
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 3: Because they are usually not that big gun.

949
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:51,720
Speaker 2: You're going to be eating multiple lobster rolls.

950
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 3: Possibly. All right, excellent, All right.

951
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:56,839
Speaker 2: Well we got something fun here. Tasks that you put

952
00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:58,720
Speaker 2: a little work into and it's got to do with Lebron.

953
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, Lebron making news. He's not playing, but he's making news.

954
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:03,840
Speaker 4: He's been tweeting throughout the playoffs. He's been angry about

955
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:07,480
Speaker 4: illegal screens. He's been angry about basketball experts on Twitter,

956
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 4: you basketball experts. He's been excited about Darwn Ham as

957
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:13,759
Speaker 4: his head coach. And he made some news when he

958
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 4: tweeted yesterday because he teased that he could start his

959
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:20,240
Speaker 4: own pod to say all this stuff. He tweeted, jumping

960
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 4: on someone's podcast soon, maybe my own. Well, Lebron, we

961
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:28,319
Speaker 4: got you. We wanted to make a list for you

962
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 4: all the podcast names you would think about a little

963
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 4: brainstorming session. We got you came up with the list.

964
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 4: Here are the top ten names for Lebron's podcast, presented

965
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:44,080
Speaker 4: by No Dunks, also a very good podcast. At number ten,

966
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 4: The King's Court Solid Bronze in charge loves that historical reference.

967
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 4: He likes saying the King as well. I think he'd jump,

968
00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 4: he'd jump on that one.

969
00:42:57,239 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 2: I think that's an obvious one. I asked Nora, Hey,

970
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 2: I heard Lebron's maybe doing a podcast. What do you

971
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:04,439
Speaker 2: think he should call it? And she said right away,

972
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 2: the King's Court, So it came right to her top

973
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:09,920
Speaker 2: of her mind. Yeah, so it's it's it's obvious, but

974
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:12,359
Speaker 2: it's sometimes the obvious name is the best name.

975
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:13,279
Speaker 4: We'll get to something.

976
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:15,480
Speaker 1: I'm glad you put it at number ten because unfortunately,

977
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:18,399
Speaker 1: this is the perfect name for Lebron's podcast. Guess where

978
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 1: basketball's played.

979
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:22,920
Speaker 2: It's on a course. Yeah, it's perfect.

980
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:25,840
Speaker 1: We should actually we should trademark it right now. So

981
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 1: we can't.

982
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 2: I'll tell you right now, there's probably ten NBA podcasts

983
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:32,239
Speaker 2: already called the Kings Corder or a Kings Court or something.

984
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 2: But he can get it, he can afford it, he

985
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:34,920
Speaker 2: can get the rights.

986
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:40,360
Speaker 4: Interesting you say trademarks trade because at number nine, Taco

987
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:47,400
Speaker 4: this is brilliant spelled t a L K. Dash. Oh.

988
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 4: Now it keeps up to Taco Tuesday brand, which she

989
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:55,239
Speaker 4: has been employing with regular tacos, of course, but it

990
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:57,080
Speaker 4: might be a little too cute for brun And he

991
00:43:57,160 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 4: actually applied for the patent for Taco Tuesday rejected. Oh,

992
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:04,319
Speaker 4: but the discussion was was he just doing that to

993
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 4: drum up some social media support for Taco Tuesday. Maybe

994
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:10,439
Speaker 4: it just worked anyways, Maybe it worked because we're still

995
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:12,759
Speaker 4: talking about it. Taco Tuesday, that's his thing. It would

996
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:15,320
Speaker 4: be good because he's got the catchphrase you know, built

997
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 4: in right there.

998
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:17,799
Speaker 2: And so it would only be I like it too

999
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 2: because it's I assume this is going to be just

1000
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:22,440
Speaker 2: once a week, just on Tuesdays. It's Taco Tuesdays.

1001
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:23,759
Speaker 1: Coddling these podcasts.

1002
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:27,279
Speaker 2: I see. I don't think Lebron's built for this type

1003
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:31,879
Speaker 2: of life that we went daily content ninety minutes every day.

1004
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:34,239
Speaker 2: He can't do that now, he can't. He's got to

1005
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:35,720
Speaker 2: start once a week. That's smart.

1006
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:38,399
Speaker 4: It's way smarter than us. He would never go five

1007
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:41,919
Speaker 4: days a week. And the thing is, yes, maybe you think,

1008
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:45,040
Speaker 4: oh he has to go on Tuesdays. Is that constricting himself? Well,

1009
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 4: you can record any day, just put it up on Tuesday. Sure,

1010
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:50,759
Speaker 4: sure that Actually it's better because you put it up

1011
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:53,920
Speaker 4: in the middle of the night on Tuesday. Expands your

1012
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:56,799
Speaker 4: reach right longer shelf life, is what I'm trying to say,

1013
00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 4: instead of doing it at Tuesday at noon like us.

1014
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 2: You know what I mean said you like the idea

1015
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 2: of going Taco Tuesday because you basically have your intro

1016
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:09,120
Speaker 2: already built screaming Taco Tuesday and maybe yeah, you get

1017
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 2: a little brand deal with Taco Bell or something. When

1018
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:13,880
Speaker 2: you're eating taco as well you're podcasting.

1019
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:15,880
Speaker 4: That sounds like a no dunk thing to do. Come

1020
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 4: up with the name, figure out the rest later.

1021
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:18,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what you do.

1022
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:21,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it might be a little too cute,

1023
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:23,439
Speaker 4: but we got some cuties here. Let's go more cute

1024
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:27,360
Speaker 4: names at number eight. Some people say Lebron's best skill.

1025
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:29,800
Speaker 2: Is podcast Yeah, it's good.

1026
00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:30,799
Speaker 4: It's a good one.

1027
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:31,760
Speaker 3: It's a good one.

1028
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 4: Now, it's not catchy, but it might be true. Let's

1029
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:38,200
Speaker 4: see him on the mic. He might be better at

1030
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:42,360
Speaker 4: podcasting than basketball passing than scoring. Wow, that could be

1031
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 4: his first podcast. People don't say I score enough.

1032
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:47,280
Speaker 3: He could get a Webby. He's in line for Webby.

1033
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:50,279
Speaker 3: I mean we've got a Webby, so good one.

1034
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 2: Yeah wow, But yeah, I guess what you're saying. He

1035
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 2: might be so good at podcasting that it like he

1036
00:45:57,120 --> 00:45:58,880
Speaker 2: might go into the Hall of Fame as a podcaster

1037
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:01,920
Speaker 2: before us before Wow.

1038
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:02,400
Speaker 1: Would be impressive.

1039
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 3: Away.

1040
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I mean he's the ultimate setup man.

1041
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:09,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't think this is from inside jokey this title?

1042
00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 2: You know, this is like only ten percent.

1043
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:16,240
Speaker 1: Oh okay, this has why this has a lot of appeal,

1044
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 1: and like Task said, it just flows off the tongue.

1045
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:22,640
Speaker 1: Unforgettable name for a podcast, especially if you shorten it

1046
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:25,960
Speaker 1: to its abbreviation, which would be can you pull me

1047
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 1: up real quick here JD so I can reference uh

1048
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:35,759
Speaker 1: Lebron's l B S I HP.

1049
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 2: Thanks for helping you.

1050
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:42,920
Speaker 1: I think the graphic I said pull I see what you.

1051
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 1: I didn't mean that. I didn't mean the graphic. I

1052
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:46,719
Speaker 1: thought it through.

1053
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:53,359
Speaker 4: I got skill is my abbreviating. Killed it alright at

1054
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:59,959
Speaker 4: number seven. Just a pod from Akron. He loves showing

1055
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 4: love to his roots. Yeah, always says, just a kid

1056
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:03,640
Speaker 4: from Akron.

1057
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 2: That looks sort of good.

1058
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 4: Actually, just a pod from Akron. What do you think,

1059
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:09,360
Speaker 4: le Yeah?

1060
00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:11,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I like it because he's trying to play to

1061
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:14,400
Speaker 3: his humble roots, you know, like he's come from just

1062
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 3: a little town. He's just from a small town, and

1063
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:18,759
Speaker 3: he just wants to be a potter. He doesn't want

1064
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:22,840
Speaker 3: his like basketball success to be the reason why he

1065
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:25,239
Speaker 3: is a successful podcast. He wants to be an individually

1066
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 3: successful podcast. If you know what I mean. You know

1067
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:29,399
Speaker 3: I like that one.

1068
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just it's five words. It's not too long. Yeah,

1069
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 2: I think that's like sort of your max for being honest.

1070
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:39,800
Speaker 2: Five maybe six, But that one works. It's memorable. I

1071
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:41,000
Speaker 2: don't mind it. I don't mind it.

1072
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:44,560
Speaker 4: Some people say Lebron's best skill is naming podcasts. What

1073
00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:46,759
Speaker 4: will it be? This is tough. Well let's go to

1074
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:51,879
Speaker 4: number six. All the King's Voices to the King. Yeah,

1075
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:54,919
Speaker 4: the King is something. I think he would like this.

1076
00:47:56,680 --> 00:48:01,040
Speaker 4: This is good because this has networking in mind. Okay,

1077
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 4: he's creating a whole network. Bronni's getting a podcast.

1078
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:07,759
Speaker 2: I see, I see it off of all the King's men,

1079
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:08,120
Speaker 2: of course.

1080
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:12,960
Speaker 4: Okay, Okay, Rich Paul's getting a podcast. Everybody's getting a podcast, right,

1081
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 4: you know. So that's the thing. If you're he's always

1082
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:20,799
Speaker 4: looking to build, He's not looking just for himself. He's

1083
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:26,040
Speaker 4: looking to do something huge, always thinking bigger. So family, friends, beyond.

1084
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:27,879
Speaker 4: I think I think there's something here.

1085
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:30,440
Speaker 1: I would also like to see him do a version

1086
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 1: where it's just Lebron playing all the different characters from

1087
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:36,880
Speaker 1: the Lebron's commercials, where he's like business Lebron, Old Lebron,

1088
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 1: Young Lebron doing all of those voices. But I do

1089
00:48:39,719 --> 00:48:41,479
Speaker 1: like that he can build the network as well, because

1090
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:44,040
Speaker 1: I mean like he would give Bronnie a rookie podcast,

1091
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 1: like just talk to the other rookies out there.

1092
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:49,319
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, And he wouldn't let Bronni screw up by

1093
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:51,759
Speaker 4: any means podcasts don't have to be live. You know,

1094
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:54,480
Speaker 4: he protects his son. This is what I'm thinking. I

1095
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 4: always think of the worst case scenario. Maybe Bronnie says

1096
00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 4: something dumb, right, right, but don't worry edit it out.

1097
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:01,760
Speaker 4: Don't worry it's not live.

1098
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:06,560
Speaker 2: You don't have the guts to go live like we do.

1099
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:10,120
Speaker 2: I'm talking to ninety percent of you podcasters out there.

1100
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:14,640
Speaker 2: Go live with your hot take merchants, stand by them,

1101
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:20,239
Speaker 2: don't edit them out. Sell your mac Weldon's and your

1102
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:22,440
Speaker 2: Starbucks buy it Energy drinks live.

1103
00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, don't edit them out like JD does for the

1104
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 4: rest of the week.

1105
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:27,720
Speaker 2: You know the guts Anyway.

1106
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:30,400
Speaker 4: At number five and then thinking.

1107
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:33,600
Speaker 2: About leaning into being a heel podcaster, I just stuck.

1108
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 1: I thought you started while mister no, like just.

1109
00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:39,000
Speaker 2: Wait, but like take it to the next level. I

1110
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 2: just start really like calling out other podcasts, like just

1111
00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:44,000
Speaker 2: cut a bit on Zach Low for five minutes. You know,

1112
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:47,800
Speaker 2: just to drum up more uh more clicks, you know,

1113
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:48,640
Speaker 2: just do it for that.

1114
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:51,040
Speaker 1: Nothing gets the people going like podcast beat.

1115
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:54,160
Speaker 4: I mean, you got surprised. You gotta write songs, songs

1116
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:57,239
Speaker 4: like you have to write rap songs. What distracts?

1117
00:49:57,400 --> 00:49:58,799
Speaker 2: So you want to distracts?

1118
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:01,960
Speaker 4: Of course, Well bring back what do we called.

1119
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:05,760
Speaker 1: Dirty Santa and uh young Santa and the Christmas Elf.

1120
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:09,520
Speaker 3: No, I was the creepy young young Young Santa.

1121
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:10,879
Speaker 1: Young Santa is me.

1122
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:14,200
Speaker 2: Freaking.

1123
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:21,240
Speaker 3: We've already had a heel podcast, go ahead and heal. Yeah,

1124
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:22,280
Speaker 3: that's the Hammer podcast.

1125
00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:23,160
Speaker 2: Aerial heel Wani.

1126
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:23,760
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1127
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:24,840
Speaker 2: A couple of times.

1128
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:27,880
Speaker 4: Got names we got.

1129
00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:30,239
Speaker 1: I was gonna say something about showing my heel, but

1130
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:33,600
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do it. Okay, maybe tweet the name.

1131
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:34,400
Speaker 3: Okay.

1132
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:40,280
Speaker 4: At number five, podcast listeners, this one's for you.

1133
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:44,920
Speaker 2: That's not bad, actually, podcast listeners.

1134
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:48,080
Speaker 3: I mean a little a little wordy, sure, but it

1135
00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:51,640
Speaker 3: sort of hate just this one's for you. So I

1136
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:54,160
Speaker 3: think I prefer the podcast listeners because that was Cleveland

1137
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:55,840
Speaker 3: after he won the championship, wasn't it.

1138
00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:59,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I don't mind that one postgame interview. Yeah,

1139
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:02,280
Speaker 4: he yells out Cleveland. This one's for you. So podcast

1140
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:06,400
Speaker 4: listeners a little wordy. I get it very specific, but

1141
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 4: again I built in phrase to start the show.

1142
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:11,040
Speaker 3: Yeah for sure.

1143
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:14,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's always great. I always find that awkward. You know,

1144
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:18,520
Speaker 4: you guys have your taglines. I don't podcast listeners. This

1145
00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:21,160
Speaker 4: one's for you. I might steal that one. I got

1146
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:22,000
Speaker 4: a patent that one.

1147
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:25,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, get you out. So every time I say alongside

1148
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:29,840
Speaker 2: of me has always task melis that you go podcast listeners.

1149
00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:30,880
Speaker 2: This one's for you.

1150
00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:37,560
Speaker 4: Yes, it's it's very specific. It's on the nose, but

1151
00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:38,040
Speaker 4: who cares.

1152
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:42,320
Speaker 2: Does anybody know Luke Combs. He's a country singer. Apparently

1153
00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:44,680
Speaker 2: he has an album called This One's for You.

1154
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:47,080
Speaker 3: Okay, maybe he.

1155
00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:49,839
Speaker 1: Can that is that Diddy son?

1156
00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:54,600
Speaker 2: Maybe he looks like him.

1157
00:51:56,400 --> 00:52:02,040
Speaker 4: All right at number four Billionaire Boys Club.

1158
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:04,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't like this one. It's gonna be a

1159
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:08,319
Speaker 3: primaria because, like my immediate reaction is like, so you

1160
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:10,719
Speaker 3: have to only be a billionaire to go on. Yeah,

1161
00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:13,600
Speaker 3: great for Lebron, but it's also a little bit sort

1162
00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:14,799
Speaker 3: of elitist if you ask me.

1163
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:15,920
Speaker 1: But it's good.

1164
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 3: It's a cool name.

1165
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:18,760
Speaker 2: It's just like it's it is a cool name. Forrell

1166
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:20,319
Speaker 2: thought of it a long time ago.

1167
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:24,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, there'd be some trademark issues. There's a clothing line

1168
00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:27,279
Speaker 4: and all that. Lebron is a billionaire, though he might

1169
00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:30,560
Speaker 4: it is elitist for sure. It's not inclusive, you know,

1170
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:33,040
Speaker 4: for billionaires and also for girls. What the girl?

1171
00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:33,399
Speaker 1: Sure?

1172
00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:36,400
Speaker 3: But Sarah Blakey go on it.

1173
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:39,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a billionaire billion Yeah you can't.

1174
00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:42,799
Speaker 1: I's gonna be bigger than you're thinking. You get some

1175
00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:45,400
Speaker 1: incredible guests, even if you're just limiting it to billionaires,

1176
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:46,399
Speaker 1: and people would tune in.

1177
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:52,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you can lie billionaires can be right.

1178
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:54,160
Speaker 3: That's right. You can be a billionaire on paper, even

1179
00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:57,319
Speaker 3: if you're not necessarily in the cash in your hand kind.

1180
00:52:58,360 --> 00:52:59,839
Speaker 3: But then what happens if you lose all that? Then

1181
00:52:59,880 --> 00:53:03,720
Speaker 3: you podcast gets caught from the from the from the archives.

1182
00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:06,239
Speaker 4: Drop it from the archives. Well, that's not a bad

1183
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:08,279
Speaker 4: way of getting on the show. You have to put

1184
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:10,759
Speaker 4: it on paper that you're a billionaire. I can't catch

1185
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:18,719
Speaker 4: I'll bring it in. You want some social media love,

1186
00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 4: get your guests to put it on paper. That'll you

1187
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:24,759
Speaker 4: know that that will be everywhere? Why about it? Who cares?

1188
00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:27,200
Speaker 2: There is an angle to it? You're right talking me into.

1189
00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:36,120
Speaker 4: It at number three, No Dunk Contest. Yeah, now that's

1190
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:40,520
Speaker 4: self promotion for the No Dunks podcast. But also everyone's

1191
00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:44,280
Speaker 4: still a little bitter that Lebron James never entered don contest.

1192
00:53:43,960 --> 00:53:46,200
Speaker 2: Said he was going to to on air.

1193
00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:50,680
Speaker 4: Yes, set it to Cheryl.

1194
00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:51,879
Speaker 1: Told Cheryl to her face.

1195
00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:53,120
Speaker 2: Was that in Dallas?

1196
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:57,840
Speaker 3: Yeah? I think so Phoenix. That was was Dallas.

1197
00:53:58,000 --> 00:53:59,840
Speaker 2: It was on nine or ten. Yeah, it's one of

1198
00:53:59,880 --> 00:54:00,600
Speaker 2: the ZRs.

1199
00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:02,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a great one though.

1200
00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:04,400
Speaker 2: That was a good No Dunk Contest.

1201
00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:07,399
Speaker 4: Yeah, we just want the hits as well. No Dunk

1202
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:10,480
Speaker 4: Contest is created, they're gonna start searching No Dunk. We're

1203
00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:14,840
Speaker 4: right there, second to No Dunk Contest. Obviously it's not

1204
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:21,840
Speaker 4: about them. At number two, Lebron has a podcast. It's basic,

1205
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:24,879
Speaker 4: but but it's got Lebron in the name. This could

1206
00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:27,840
Speaker 4: be the winner. I think you go simple as Trey

1207
00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:31,239
Speaker 4: said the King's Court. It's a good one. But you

1208
00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:35,640
Speaker 4: might just want Lebron having you know, all that Google

1209
00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:38,879
Speaker 4: trend search going on, you might want Lebron in the name.

1210
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:42,160
Speaker 4: We're talking CEO se O here. That's important.

1211
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:46,920
Speaker 2: But let's be I mean, this one's just it's boring.

1212
00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:48,000
Speaker 4: No one's excited about.

1213
00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:49,040
Speaker 2: Definitely not excited.

1214
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:53,560
Speaker 4: But people, people beyond Lebron, People google lebron podcast.

1215
00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:58,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, just call it Lebron's podcast. That's yeah, Lebron's points great,

1216
00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:00,840
Speaker 2: it's great, It's gonna get great. You're right, people are

1217
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:01,440
Speaker 2: gonna find it.

1218
00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:04,959
Speaker 1: Did you hear? Lebron has a podcast works in two.

1219
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:08,520
Speaker 4: Different and we needed a boring one for number two.

1220
00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:09,040
Speaker 2: That's what you do.

1221
00:55:09,080 --> 00:55:11,160
Speaker 4: That's the in honor of David Wait.

1222
00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:13,480
Speaker 1: I thought Letterman always put the best jokes. Number two. Yeah,

1223
00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:15,280
Speaker 1: it should have been number one.

1224
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:22,879
Speaker 4: That's a good one. And number one the Chosen Pod. Now,

1225
00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:25,520
Speaker 4: I think he could go to this one tree you scoffed,

1226
00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:29,120
Speaker 4: But I think he'd like this one. You know, he

1227
00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:34,600
Speaker 4: calls himself the chosen One. Yeah, it makes you feel good.

1228
00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:36,279
Speaker 4: You got the Chosen Pod. I guess it.

1229
00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:38,160
Speaker 2: Feels like it's the best one already.

1230
00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:41,440
Speaker 4: Right right, there's a lot better names, but the chosen

1231
00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:44,319
Speaker 4: part it just rolls off the tugue. Maybe because he

1232
00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:45,239
Speaker 4: is the chosen one.

1233
00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:46,920
Speaker 2: Well, what he would do if he was smart, if

1234
00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:49,880
Speaker 2: he went with that one. Someone get the photoshop boys,

1235
00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:54,120
Speaker 2: change that back tattoo. Put the Chosen Pod. Make it

1236
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:56,480
Speaker 2: seem like he changed his tattoo. You know, get that

1237
00:55:56,520 --> 00:55:59,480
Speaker 2: going viral. People are going crazy, what what what's this

1238
00:55:59,560 --> 00:56:05,799
Speaker 2: all about? Then dropped the first episode.

1239
00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:09,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, instead of the Michael Jordan facts, I'm back. You know,

1240
00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:11,480
Speaker 4: spread that tattoo around.

1241
00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:15,279
Speaker 2: Right right, get around. Lebron changed his Chosen Pod. What

1242
00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:15,960
Speaker 2: does that mean?

1243
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:17,560
Speaker 3: He's got a podcast?

1244
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:21,920
Speaker 2: Chosen Lebron has a podcast? Damn it?

1245
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:26,480
Speaker 4: Okay. In summary, the best names for Lebron's new podcast,

1246
00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:28,680
Speaker 4: We've got ten of them for you at ten, The

1247
00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:33,200
Speaker 4: King's Court at nine, Talk Oh Tuesday at eight. Some

1248
00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:36,960
Speaker 4: people say Lebron's best skill is his podcasting. At number seven,

1249
00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:40,480
Speaker 4: just a pod from Akron. At number six, All the

1250
00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:44,799
Speaker 4: King's Voices Network Potential, think about It? Lebron at number five,

1251
00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:49,719
Speaker 4: Podcast listeners, This one's for you. I'm stealing that at

1252
00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:54,160
Speaker 4: number four, Billionaire Boys Club, at number three, No Dunk Contests,

1253
00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:57,439
Speaker 4: and number two Lebron has a podcast, and number one

1254
00:56:57,760 --> 00:57:01,600
Speaker 4: the Chosen Pod. There you go, n just.

1255
00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:03,880
Speaker 2: Doing free work for Lebron James. Look at that list.

1256
00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:09,120
Speaker 4: Shout out to everybody who's throwing out the names on Twitter.

1257
00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:13,800
Speaker 4: Man Kenny Beacham was asking people on Twitter, well done, everybody.

1258
00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:15,160
Speaker 2: All right, and if you have a new suggestion or

1259
00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:17,960
Speaker 2: a fresh suggestion, drop it in the stream team.

1260
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:20,640
Speaker 1: Right now, there's a great one we missed. Oh many

1261
00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:22,720
Speaker 1: have said it. I think Sam, you know, was the first.

1262
00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:32,720
Speaker 1: The basketball James right there, TV Jacob on it's good.

1263
00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:33,520
Speaker 4: Wow.

1264
00:57:34,040 --> 00:57:36,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, we add it to the list there. If

1265
00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:38,400
Speaker 2: you have other ones, drop them in the stream team,

1266
00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:40,880
Speaker 2: drop them in the YouTube comments. Tweet at us at

1267
00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:43,520
Speaker 2: No dunk Sinc. And make sure you tag at King

1268
00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:45,720
Speaker 2: James when you do that as well, so so he

1269
00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:47,920
Speaker 2: sees that. All right, let's take our final break. When

1270
00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:49,360
Speaker 2: we come back, tweet the night, and then we'll wrap

1271
00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:52,360
Speaker 2: this baby up. All right, we just had a big

1272
00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:57,600
Speaker 2: brainstorming session trying to name Lebron's potentially new podcasts. While

1273
00:57:57,680 --> 00:58:01,520
Speaker 2: in other NBA podcast news, I just saw this come

1274
00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:05,680
Speaker 2: through my Twitter timeline. There's an article on Patrick Beverly

1275
00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:08,600
Speaker 2: in the Washington Post today and there's a little part

1276
00:58:08,640 --> 00:58:13,200
Speaker 2: that's been pulled and shared on Twitter says this is Beverly,

1277
00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:16,760
Speaker 2: Patrick Beverly. I'm not a big podcast guy. If I

1278
00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:19,880
Speaker 2: did it, I'd kill it. And I mean, if it's

1279
00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:22,000
Speaker 2: for the right price, I'm gonna do it. And I'm

1280
00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:24,600
Speaker 2: gonna do it well, but I'm not going to best

1281
00:58:24,600 --> 00:58:28,000
Speaker 2: Buy trying to set up a podcast. End quote there

1282
00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:32,080
Speaker 2: from Patrick Beverly in this Washington Post article talking about

1283
00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:34,800
Speaker 2: being It's titled that he's sort of the say anything

1284
00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:37,840
Speaker 2: star of the NBA playoffs, but not a big podcast guy.

1285
00:58:38,520 --> 00:58:40,720
Speaker 2: Though if you did it, he'd be the best.

1286
00:58:41,560 --> 00:58:42,680
Speaker 3: But he wouldn't go to best Buy.

1287
00:58:43,320 --> 00:58:44,880
Speaker 2: No, he's not going to best Buy to buy the

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Speaker 2: microphones and the gables and that.

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Speaker 4: All right, that's a good step.

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Speaker 5: Actually, I wouldn't go to best Buy either to get

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Speaker 5: the gear to do a podcast. Oh yeah, why and

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Speaker 5: they just sell crap like you want to go to,

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Speaker 5: you know, alonga mcquad or something like that, like an

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Speaker 5: actual audio.

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Speaker 2: So nothing we have here in the Classic Factory is

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Speaker 2: from best Buy. Can we confrom that.

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Speaker 5: Coffee maker?

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Speaker 2: Mate? Okay, let's get to tweet.

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Speaker 4: Of the night, Tweet of the night. Wow, tweeted the night.

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Speaker 1: Just a quick follow up moment here also feet of

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Speaker 1: the Night. Here you go, sticks, there's my heel. It's

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Speaker 1: a heel podcast Onto tweet of the Night. Pat Riley

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Speaker 1: did a press conference yesterday, seventy seven year old man

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Speaker 1: speaking about the Miami Heat. Some great quotes. Got two

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Speaker 1: of them that I pulled for you here I thought

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Speaker 1: were the best ones. This one comes from Will Manso

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Speaker 1: down there at a down there at the Heat. Here

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Speaker 1: in this press conference, Riley was asked about running it

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Speaker 1: back with the current team. He said, with regards to

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Speaker 1: running it back with the current Heat team, I run

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Speaker 1: it back with my wife every week. He did say it.

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Speaker 1: Nobody knew that pat Riley could do a borat, but

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Speaker 1: just like Patrick Beverley with podcasting, he did it for

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Speaker 1: the right price and he killed it. The number two

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Speaker 1: quote actually number one in my heart. Pat Riley, seventy

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Speaker 1: seven year old man. This one comes from Tim Reynolds.

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Speaker 1: At by Tim Reynolds with the AP. Pat says he

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Speaker 1: ain't going anywhere. I'm seventy seven years old and right

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Speaker 1: now I can do more push ups than you can

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Speaker 1: right now. He also basically called Kyle Lowry fat and

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Speaker 1: said he's gonna have to lose weight for next season

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Speaker 1: just to tour to force from Riley. So all my

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Speaker 1: questions to you guys, how many push ups can you

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Speaker 1: do in how often do you run it back with

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Speaker 1: your wife?

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Speaker 4: Oh? Wow, that's what I love about that wife comment,

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Speaker 4: he was being real. He runs it back with his

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Speaker 4: wife every week.

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Speaker 1: I'm busy.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, like we're not doing it every day, okay, every week,

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Speaker 4: keep it a real is not lying whatsoever, and that's

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Speaker 4: why he's not lying. Also about to push up, I

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Speaker 4: don't know who is he talking.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he said guaranteed right at Ira, Yeah, Iris.

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Speaker 4: Got right, Ira. I thought he could be doing it

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Speaker 4: to Tim Reynolds there. I guess he could probably do

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Speaker 4: more push ups than me. I'm guessing seventy seven year

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Speaker 4: old pat Yeah, I mean he's calling people out. He

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Speaker 4: wasn't asked how many push up? You and you and

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Speaker 4: you and you.

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Speaker 2: He also had another line that I loved about the

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Speaker 2: lost stinging still there too in the conference finals to

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Speaker 2: the Celtics. The dragon hasn't left my body yet from

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Speaker 2: the loss.

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Speaker 3: The way he spoke about it, well, a line has

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Speaker 3: won everything he's been around forever. Eastern Conference Finals lost,

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Speaker 3: and he's like, man, this one getting to be there.

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Speaker 2: This is when it gets thrown around all the time.

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Speaker 2: He culture, He culture, He culture is just pat Riley

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Speaker 2: being a complete cycle at seventy seven, like in the

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Speaker 2: best way possible, Like he's such a competitor.

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Speaker 3: Because he basically said to Todd the hero Anco Robinson,

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Speaker 3: you guys are bam half your salary.

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Speaker 2: Say that, said Tyler, you want to start come on

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01:02:06,600 --> 01:02:09,440
Speaker 2: in training camp yet the damn position. Yeah, called him out,

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Speaker 2: You said already the Kyle Lowry's got to be in

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Speaker 2: better shape.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: He did not hold back.

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Speaker 4: You could see him in that huddle when Jimmy Butler

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Speaker 4: was yelling at the team ready to fight Jimmy Butler.

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Speaker 4: He would throw down with Jimmy.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I figure, yeah, you're probably right. He probably would

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Speaker 1: fight Jimmy. I was thinking he would be on the

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Speaker 1: same side, but he would not take sides against the heat.

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Speaker 1: We gotta see him do some push ups though, Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Like Clint east Wood bragged about doing push ups once

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Speaker 1: and then he did like one armed push ups at

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Speaker 1: the oscars or something. Right, we got to see pat

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Speaker 1: Riley doing some push ups more than at least one reporter.

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Speaker 1: Cooper moorehead he's a he's a heat guy. I think

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Speaker 1: he's got to be the one. It's got to be

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Speaker 1: a local employee going one on one push up for

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Speaker 1: push up.

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Speaker 4: I think Coop's got some push ups and he looks strong,

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Speaker 4: pat Riley. How can pat Riley do that? He's called people.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I think it has to be fifty. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: because that's a that's a good respectable man for a

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Speaker 3: seventy seven year old go, it's.

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Speaker 4: Irrespectable for anybody.

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Speaker 2: It feels like he's been it. I just I have

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Speaker 2: no idea if this is true, but my gut says

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01:03:09,040 --> 01:03:12,040
Speaker 2: pat Riley's been waking up every day for the past

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01:03:12,600 --> 01:03:15,720
Speaker 2: fifty years, drops to the ground and does like whatever,

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Speaker 2: five hundred push ups or something that's like he's like

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01:03:17,920 --> 01:03:18,800
Speaker 2: a bit of a cycle that way.

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Speaker 3: Richard Branton does something similar like that. Yeah, and he.

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Speaker 4: Doesn't have a runner beside his bed. He does it

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Speaker 4: on the hard wood, yeah, or the stone beside his bed.

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Speaker 4: There's no car. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Man, I think at the intensity in the Miami Heat

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01:03:32,440 --> 01:03:35,640
Speaker 2: organization with Riley alons all morning, and that really has

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Speaker 2: I mean, I know he's on the team Budd's yeah,

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Speaker 2: basically yeah, and that's bolster.

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Speaker 1: All right, This is this is weird, But you can

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Speaker 1: find out how many push ups Clint Eastwood used to

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Speaker 1: be able to do. At seventy four, he said he

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01:03:48,520 --> 01:03:51,240
Speaker 1: could do thirty push ups Okay, Clint east On is

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Speaker 1: a strong guy. He said he used to do a

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Speaker 1: thousand push ups a day, so I mean fifty I

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Speaker 1: think would be a nice over the over, that'd be nice.

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Speaker 2: I think i'd hit the old of her. Honestly, he

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01:04:01,360 --> 01:04:05,640
Speaker 2: looks in good cheap, but he's all. I have not

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01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:08,040
Speaker 2: guessed he was seventy seven though either maybe he does

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01:04:08,040 --> 01:04:10,560
Speaker 2: like one per year, you know, like next year he's

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01:04:10,560 --> 01:04:14,000
Speaker 2: doing seventy eight. Yeah, oh yeah, all right, great tweet

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Speaker 2: of the night. I was hoping we were gonna get

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01:04:15,280 --> 01:04:17,520
Speaker 2: a little Raley talking in today's show, and we did.

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01:04:17,600 --> 01:04:19,520
Speaker 2: Let's call it there though, these guys got to get

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Speaker 2: their asses to buy.

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Speaker 3: Speaking of Boston, I actually found something last night in

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Speaker 3: the archives from the last time we were in Boston

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01:04:25,560 --> 01:04:27,880
Speaker 3: but the no season required too. I found the lobster

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01:04:27,960 --> 01:04:31,280
Speaker 3: roll there from Neptune's got a photo of it. I

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01:04:31,320 --> 01:04:34,400
Speaker 3: can't believe you, I know I found it there, so

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01:04:34,960 --> 01:04:36,280
Speaker 3: not a bad looking lobster roll.

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01:04:36,600 --> 01:04:37,280
Speaker 4: Looks pretty bad.

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01:04:37,360 --> 01:04:38,080
Speaker 2: Not a great.

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Speaker 3: Photo photo, but you can say that. But I also

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01:04:43,080 --> 01:04:49,600
Speaker 3: like you regurgitate like a hot talk. I also found

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01:04:49,600 --> 01:04:51,920
Speaker 3: another photo. It was a little funnier here, just from

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01:04:51,960 --> 01:04:55,640
Speaker 3: the nic okay, thinking now this is in the karaoke

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01:04:55,760 --> 01:04:56,680
Speaker 3: bar there in New York.

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01:04:56,720 --> 01:05:02,520
Speaker 2: But this is too and that's only close up. That's

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01:05:02,600 --> 01:05:04,720
Speaker 2: you in the background, that's right. Yeah, is that a

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01:05:04,760 --> 01:05:07,440
Speaker 2: basketball James T shirt.

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01:05:06,720 --> 01:05:09,320
Speaker 3: On the have no idea who would have taken this photo?

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01:05:09,320 --> 01:05:11,680
Speaker 3: Because it was on my camera, so someone else has

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01:05:11,720 --> 01:05:12,040
Speaker 3: taking it.

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Speaker 1: I like to think you have a self stick going

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01:05:14,120 --> 01:05:20,080
Speaker 1: under the table. That sixth snap of what song?

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01:05:20,240 --> 01:05:28,440
Speaker 4: Is Matt turning his nose up in the binder? That one?

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01:05:30,080 --> 01:05:31,680
Speaker 3: That one too, well, Yeah.

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01:05:31,960 --> 01:05:33,600
Speaker 4: An optical illusion there, I thought you.

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01:05:34,400 --> 01:05:36,560
Speaker 2: I thought the show in Boston or the photo you're

1436
01:05:36,560 --> 01:05:39,360
Speaker 2: going to show, I should say, is uh the fat

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01:05:39,400 --> 01:05:41,960
Speaker 2: heads of the big head where you're holding I think.

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01:05:41,800 --> 01:05:45,600
Speaker 3: It's me And there's a few well there's I don't know,

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01:05:45,640 --> 01:05:45,920
Speaker 3: there's a.

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01:05:45,880 --> 01:05:48,120
Speaker 2: Pick of you holding two of our giant heads.

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01:05:48,200 --> 01:05:48,439
Speaker 3: Yeah.

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01:05:48,520 --> 01:05:50,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, people brought and.

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01:05:50,400 --> 01:05:53,520
Speaker 3: Gone, I think with the ones I can't remember who. Yeah,

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01:05:53,600 --> 01:05:56,520
Speaker 3: I'll say, I'm sure you have not as fun as love?

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01:05:57,120 --> 01:05:57,560
Speaker 1: Are you? Guys?

1446
01:05:57,560 --> 01:05:58,280
Speaker 2: Excited for Boston?

1447
01:05:58,400 --> 01:05:58,960
Speaker 3: Very excited?

1448
01:05:59,000 --> 01:06:01,400
Speaker 2: Okay, and uh, you gotta get to the airport.

1449
01:06:01,200 --> 01:06:03,919
Speaker 3: So you can have a pizza. Yeah, we'll see. Yeah.

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01:06:04,160 --> 01:06:05,840
Speaker 3: I don't know if I have usually it's a light

1451
01:06:05,880 --> 01:06:08,040
Speaker 3: in the evening, and it's also have a glass of wine,

1452
01:06:08,040 --> 01:06:10,240
Speaker 3: which I did you know you want to come along

1453
01:06:10,240 --> 01:06:10,720
Speaker 3: and have a.

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01:06:10,600 --> 01:06:12,920
Speaker 5: Class of wine, that's not just go through security and

1455
01:06:13,000 --> 01:06:18,240
Speaker 5: have a class of wine and an entire arsa.

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Speaker 2: This place is great.

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01:06:20,600 --> 01:06:21,200
Speaker 3: I'm just signed.

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01:06:21,240 --> 01:06:21,840
Speaker 1: I'm just signed.

1459
01:06:21,880 --> 01:06:22,840
Speaker 3: I'll be there if you want to come.

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Speaker 5: Only of the piano players playing, because that's a nice

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01:06:25,840 --> 01:06:30,600
Speaker 5: touch as well. Yeah, live grand piano being played. The

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01:06:30,600 --> 01:06:34,000
Speaker 5: most romantic night in the last ten years. I think

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01:06:34,040 --> 01:06:37,080
Speaker 5: I've had you guys having drinking wine.

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01:06:37,520 --> 01:06:40,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're running back with your wife everywhere.

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01:06:41,560 --> 01:06:44,040
Speaker 5: Tried to try to put it on the calendar, all right.

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01:06:44,640 --> 01:06:48,360
Speaker 2: Again follow uh so all of our accounts is what

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to say on social media at No Dunk

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01:06:51,080 --> 01:06:55,120
Speaker 2: Sink Twitter, Instagram, Facebook, TikTok, the YouTube channel here because

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Speaker 2: we got the YouTube shorts. I think these guys are

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Speaker 2: going to take advantage of because Lee and Trey will

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Speaker 2: be dropping content all week long as they head to

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01:07:01,240 --> 01:07:03,000
Speaker 2: Boston here for games three and four. Really excited to

1473
01:07:03,000 --> 01:07:04,960
Speaker 2: see what you guys get up to. Emailing your MBA

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Speaker 2: questions to No Dunks at the Athletic dot Com get

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Speaker 3: I know this is very impromptu, Jenny, but if you

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01:07:13,760 --> 01:07:17,440
Speaker 3: can have found something, this is the last time we

1479
01:07:17,440 --> 01:07:19,959
Speaker 3: were at marasanas to get that or oh my god,

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01:07:20,840 --> 01:07:21,680
Speaker 3: how do you do that?

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01:07:21,960 --> 01:07:23,680
Speaker 2: How do you find these so quick?

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Speaker 4: Okay?

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01:07:26,120 --> 01:07:29,400
Speaker 2: For the podcast listeners, Leah's found a photo yep of

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Speaker 2: JD the red glass, glass of red wine and a

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Speaker 2: pizzas been.

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Speaker 4: Remember that post the potions we were talking about on

1487
01:07:43,920 --> 01:07:48,360
Speaker 4: the Drop podcast where you could just teleport. That's why

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01:07:49,200 --> 01:07:53,200
Speaker 4: skip security to sit at the piano eat some pizzas.

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Speaker 2: All right again, no show tomorrow morning here from the

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Speaker 2: Classic Factory at Tennam Eastern. Instead, try and lee a

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Speaker 2: and you'll be alerted when these guys are live and

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Speaker 2: when it gets posted. Okay, until tomorrow, Clipper bros.

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Speaker 1: You heard it here first. Have a great time, turn up.

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Speaker 1: Love you guys awesome.

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Speaker 4: Thanks for joining us, and remember we'll be posting some

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