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Speaker 1: war room for in center news and draft analysis from

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Speaker 1: in Fresco, Dallas Cowboys Selectazikiel Elliott and now your hosts

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Speaker 1: Dane Brugler, David Hellman and Brian brought us. Well, welcome

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Speaker 1: back to the Draft Show here from the SWBC Mortgage Studios.

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Speaker 1: It's always nice to have you with us as we

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Speaker 1: get closer to the NFL combine coming up. I saw

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Speaker 1: so we are happy that you're here. Brian brought us

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Speaker 1: along with Dane Brugler from CBS Sports. Joined also here

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Speaker 1: by a young lady that is really really locked in

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Speaker 1: to what's going on college football. And I'm always glad

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Speaker 1: to have Taylor Stern with a stain because she is

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Speaker 1: a go to person when it comes to college football

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Speaker 1: and there's there's questions about these players coaches. I mean,

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Speaker 1: national football It's gonna be the national championship scene. Orange Bowls,

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Speaker 1: Rose Bowls, Young Lade. Yeah, she's made a lot of

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Speaker 1: connections throughout the throughout her brief career, but they've all

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Speaker 1: been great connections. Taylor Stern, welcome to the Draft show.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you. You know, Dave just quit on

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Speaker 1: you as usual. Well Mardi Gras took over. Yeah, that

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Speaker 1: matters more to me. I'm all about let's find the

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Speaker 1: next stacks Anthony Brown exactly. But he just doesn't care.

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Speaker 1: have you along, Taylor, really and appreciate that. Okay, today

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Speaker 1: we're going to get into a little bit about the

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Speaker 1: combine it is. We will have shows from Indianapolis starting

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Speaker 1: next Tuesday. There'll be shows likely at the end of

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Speaker 1: have to do and interviews, watching workouts, things like that,

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Speaker 1: and we will have our hour long shows from Indianapolis

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Speaker 1: you know, expectations at the combine. You know, expectations of players,

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Speaker 1: of coaches, of scouts, of fans. What are you looking

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Speaker 1: forward to most about this combine? They're all different. You know.

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Speaker 1: I've been going to combine since nineteen ninety two and

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Speaker 1: Expectations of what you're looking forward to at the combine.

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Speaker 1: You've got me beating. I think this is my eighth combine.

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Speaker 1: So I'm an old man. Yeah, a little bit more

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Speaker 1: an individual basis type of thing. Because for one player,

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Speaker 1: my preview right now that's gonna be up on CBS Sports,

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Speaker 1: and I'm breaking down sixty players and what's different about

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Speaker 1: each one of them that scouts need to find out,

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Speaker 1: you know, for sixty players, right, So I just pointed

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Speaker 1: on something here, he said, the interview process. Your area

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Speaker 1: So who knows how they're you know, showing themselves. Perception

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Speaker 1: to know who had the better film? Ruben Foster or

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Speaker 1: and that he could be a part of this team

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Speaker 1: coming up this year. Obviously, this is the only time

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Speaker 1: that someone could ask this question and you guys would

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Speaker 1: have answers because you've studied so many guys. But Lavelle

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Speaker 1: would have said Adam, my boy, our boy from Ashland

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Speaker 1: the second day probably. I mean, he's not a secret anymore,

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Speaker 1: and I think after the combine he's only going to

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Speaker 1: continue to move up boards. Um. I like a few receivers.

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Speaker 1: Mac Hollins from North Carolina is a player. I think

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Speaker 1: people need to get learn more about him familiar. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I think he's a guy that on special teams is

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Speaker 1: going to make an impact. I think he can make

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Speaker 1: will be available on Day three. So I like this

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Speaker 1: receiver class, not only early but I think there's some

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Speaker 1: deep options as well. Where do you have some of

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Speaker 1: these corners. Where do you have a guy like Elder

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Speaker 1: he's a third round player. Yeah, so you think he's

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Speaker 1: higher than that though, I think he's You can make

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Speaker 1: an argument he's the best nickel And I would, I would,

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Speaker 1: I would, I would. I would think that myself. I'll

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Speaker 1: tell you what a guy. What about the Mohammed kid.

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Speaker 1: He's talented, but the off field, off the field, you know,

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Speaker 1: because he missed this entire year, right, but maybe people

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Speaker 1: that's maybe that's a guy that also we're really we're

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Speaker 1: kind of thinking, because he didn't play this year, that

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Speaker 1: he might be a guy that all of a sudden

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Speaker 1: Jeremy Coutrere Okay from Middle Tennessee a Combine snub. This

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Speaker 1: Middle Tennessee and the last two years he put together

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Speaker 1: some really impressive tape. Tall, long, lanky, he's quick. You

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Speaker 1: how young he is, and how good he can be

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Speaker 1: down the road. So I think Jeremy Coutrere on day three,

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Speaker 1: that's a cornerback you need to know about. Okay, you're

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Speaker 1: talking about cornerbacks. Well, Sean Gabby, sorry if I mispronounced

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Speaker 1: talking about Marinelli. He says, in Marinelli's scheme, is he

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Speaker 1: looking for cornerbacks that play press offman both who fits best?

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Speaker 1: like he plays a lot of press, and he plays

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Speaker 1: you know, he loves man coverage. That's how he beat

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Speaker 1: a lot of those big time receivers last year. So

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Speaker 1: I feel like he would lean toward a corner who

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Speaker 1: has that. Yeah, Bran, what do you think? No? I

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Speaker 1: don't disagree I think that, you know, he's he Tampa

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Speaker 1: two scheme, like everybody talked about was suppless, yeah, which

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Speaker 1: you know, but he he had to make adjustments because

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Speaker 1: he didn't have corners that could play off. And so

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Speaker 1: I think it's and I don't want this to be

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Speaker 1: as riding defense. I think he would like guys that

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Speaker 1: could play both. That never so when he gets into that, yeah,

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Speaker 1: when he gets in that, in that mode of a

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Speaker 1: clog and cover where all of a sudden they're playing

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Speaker 1: you know, zone and they're kind of doing that thing.

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Speaker 1: I think though that you know, there's some really really

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Speaker 1: good manned corners in this draft. I think there's a

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Speaker 1: lot more manned corners myself. And you know, I mentioned

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Speaker 1: the guys like Tabor and White and Moreau, Jones, Tankers, Lee, Humphrey.

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Speaker 1: I mean there's some guys in here that could play. Now.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how much I would trust some of

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Speaker 1: these guys playing off. I think guys like White, I

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Speaker 1: think Moreau from UCLA, I think he could play off.

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Speaker 1: Tankersley to me is not an off mess press only

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Speaker 1: so you know, Humphrey Alabama a little bit, He's long

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Speaker 1: drive that kind of I think that he's looking for

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Speaker 1: guys that can actually take do both. But but you're right,

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Speaker 1: You're right in your assessment. You know, he likes athletic

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Speaker 1: guys that are just aggressive. He does, he does, and

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Speaker 1: and and that's why a guy like Anthony Brown, you know,

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Speaker 1: who played as a as a boundary corner, you know,

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Speaker 1: but could really run and show the ability to kick inside.

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Speaker 1: So the mand ability, the stuff that he's able to

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Speaker 1: play driving off the ball. You know, I think that

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Speaker 1: they'll they'll continue to try and get guys like that.

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Speaker 1: This is a double question one from Nebbie and it says,

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Speaker 1: are there any mid round prospects who could back up

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Speaker 1: Dak Prescott next season? And then Brian kind of responded this,

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Speaker 1: Brian Gainer, He said, maybe Chad Kelly or Josh Dobbs,

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Speaker 1: perhaps any thoughts there. You'd like Kelly a lot. I

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Speaker 1: think at some point in the draft he's worth a

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Speaker 1: draft pick, you know, I think he's a lottery ticket.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of things that worry worry me about him.

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Speaker 1: Would he be the risk player? Oh yeah, oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: on and off the field, Yeah, I mean off the

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Speaker 1: one last chance to you. Yeah, he's a player at

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Speaker 1: one scout described him to me, he has a superman complex.

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Speaker 1: You know, he thinks he can do anything. You know,

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Speaker 1: he has that entitled entitlement about him, and that can

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Speaker 1: help you at times on the field, but also makes

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Speaker 1: you worry about him off the field and also worries

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Speaker 1: you on the field because he'll make some throws that

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Speaker 1: he just shouldn't make. So the arm that he was

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Speaker 1: blessed with is just it's a laite Okay, he has

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Speaker 1: a golden arm. He's an athlete, he can move around

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Speaker 1: for his size, and he's also mentally and physically tough.

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Speaker 1: So I think he takes a ton of hits. Oh yeah.

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Speaker 1: And so I think those are some foundation traits you

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Speaker 1: can work on build off of. But again, he's not

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Speaker 1: a player I'm gonna feel comfortable taking in the first

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Speaker 1: five rounds. That's someone the six or seventh round, maybe

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Speaker 1: take a shot on. Josh Dobbs another name that was mentioned.

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Speaker 1: He is the guy that will receive a lot of

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Speaker 1: Dak comparisons. That's all to Shawn right now. Yeah, watching yeah,

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Speaker 1: but with Dobbs coming from the SEC, I don't. He's

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Speaker 1: just not an accurate quarterback. He's not and I don't

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Speaker 1: think that gets better. He's really smart. Uh, he's a good,

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Speaker 1: good athlete for a size, But you just rarely see

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Speaker 1: guys get better and turned with their accuracy, their ball placement,

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Speaker 1: their understanding of downfield coverages. I just don't see Dobbs.

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Speaker 1: Dobbs isn't draftable to me. He probably will get drafted

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Speaker 1: by a team, but for me, that that is a

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Speaker 1: player I would not be on my board. Hey, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Trad Kelly is so interesting to me because obviously he

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Speaker 1: is the nephew of Jim Kelly, right, great successful quarterback,

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Speaker 1: Hall of Famer. Obviously a mental respect for him in

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Speaker 1: the league, and then of course you know he's had

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Speaker 1: his issues at Clemson Champs and all that in Mississippi

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Speaker 1: and going there. So it's just kind of a fascinating

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Speaker 1: guy to me. One other thing about Kelly is he

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Speaker 1: is a d D and that's something that UH coaches

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Speaker 1: have said it might affect his ability to digest a

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Speaker 1: playbook in the NFL, and just because it's so diverse

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Speaker 1: and obviously you know, you have to know so many things,

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Speaker 1: and so that that's just another wrinkle to who you know,

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Speaker 1: his guying report and something that teams have to, you know,

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Speaker 1: or they have to understand whether or not he's worth

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Speaker 1: a draft pick. Yeah, but you you you talked about

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Speaker 1: though in this this fifth, sixth round six, I have

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Speaker 1: a six or seventh round grade on Okay, So at

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Speaker 1: that point we take that risk until the until that point, right, okay.

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Speaker 1: And he's so super talented. Though. Yeah, we're all doing

640
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Speaker 1: We've got we're doing quarterbacks on Saturday. We're we're taking

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Speaker 1: my little care good Kat and Jeff and we're gonna

642
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Speaker 1: we're gonna sit there and we're gonna hammer all the

643
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Speaker 1: quarterbacks on Saturday. So not a great group. But there's

644
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Speaker 1: some talent. We'll find him. We'll find something, I know.

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Speaker 1: And it's funny because you always because I think last year,

646
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Speaker 1: you know that, it seemed like you always talk about tiers.

647
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 1: You talk a lot about tiers, and you would talk

648
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Speaker 1: about the top tier, the middle tier, in the bottom tier.

649
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Speaker 1: And this year it's like there's just a few in

650
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Speaker 1: the top tier and a lot in the middle and

651
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 1: no consensus. How would how would Hackenburg and Cook be

652
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 1: in this draft? Better about saying I mean people were

653
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 1: thinking then Taylor brought up the tears thing. How about

654
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 1: like even Dak Prescott. Yeah, I mean would he be

655
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Speaker 1: instead of in people's eyes, maybe a fourth round guy.

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Speaker 1: Is he a second round guy? Yeah, just because of

657
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 1: the way the class looks. We don't have Jacoby Brissetts

658
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Speaker 1: this year, right, think that second or third round? Right? No,

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Speaker 1: I think that that's a valid point. And the guy

660
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Speaker 1: this year that's going to be interesting as Pat Mahomes,

661
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Speaker 1: because I've seen a lot about him. Yeah, I don't

662
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:51,840
Speaker 1: think it would be a surprise if he's snuck into

663
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Speaker 1: the first round. I don't think he should, but he might. Um,

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Speaker 1: you were on him as the and you had him

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00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 1: in the initial top fifty. Yeah, he number fifty. He

666
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:01,320
Speaker 1: came to a number fifty. I think he's an early

667
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 1: to mid second round guy. At that point, maybe you

668
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 1: take a chance. But again, he's a player that he's

669
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 1: not gonna help you in tails seventeen, and there's a

670
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:09,840
Speaker 1: worry that he might not help you in tails and eighteen.

671
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 1: He's just like what we said about Dak, he's a puppy. Well, no, Dak,

672
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:14,920
Speaker 1: I think we had a better understand of who he was.

673
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 1: Oh no, I know with Mahomes, it's just all upside. Yeah,

674
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:19,880
Speaker 1: he really is a puppy. I don't think you can

675
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:22,400
Speaker 1: blame yourself for anything that you said about Dak. You know,

676
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 1: I've gotten really frustrated because it feels like everything I

677
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 1: see on Twitter social media right now is DeShawn and Dak. Right, Oh,

678
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 1: Deshaun is the next Dak Prescott. But to me, that

679
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:33,759
Speaker 1: feels really lazy to say that, because yes, you know,

680
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:37,880
Speaker 1: they have similar attributes, they're very similar style play and

681
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 1: all that stuff. But Clemson just won a national championship.

682
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:44,360
Speaker 1: Deshaun came from Mississippi State. Obviously he excelled that program

683
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 1: when he was there. But you know, they are what

684
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:50,279
Speaker 1: they are, and it's so much situational success. You know,

685
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson may go into Cleveland Brown's situation and you

686
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 1: can't say, oh, he's not the next Dak because he's there. Well,

687
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:00,759
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott came into this situation where you had the

688
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:04,680
Speaker 1: best offensive line in the league. Ezekiel Elliot, Yeah, team

689
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:07,040
Speaker 1: committed to run of the football. Fit is the most

690
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:10,720
Speaker 1: important part quarterbacks. Yeah, it seriously is, because I remember

691
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 1: everybody every position. Yeah, absolutely, if you go to the

692
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 1: right fit in the right situation. Now, obviously, talent will

693
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:18,479
Speaker 1: supersede that and if you're that talented, you know that'll

694
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Speaker 1: show through no matter where you are, But you'll fit

695
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:25,319
Speaker 1: in a perfect example right here with Dak Prescott. Yeah,

696
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:27,279
Speaker 1: if he goes to another team, if the Browns draft

697
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:30,239
Speaker 1: him instead of Cody Kessler and around, you know who

698
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:33,360
Speaker 1: knows how that works out right, And so fit is

699
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:37,880
Speaker 1: paramount to the trajectory of a rookies and just a

700
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 1: player's eventual interf Yeah. And I remember talking to Dak

701
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 1: at training camp and we were kind of talking about

702
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 1: learning the playbook because he got a lot of slack

703
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:47,800
Speaker 1: as far as you know, he'd never taken under center

704
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 1: and you have to learn a whole new playbook. But really,

705
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:53,320
Speaker 1: most people didn't realize he didn't because of the fact that,

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00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 1: you know, Lena Hann had worked with urban Meyer, and

707
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 1: urban Meyer had obviously worked with Dan Mullen and so

708
00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:00,160
Speaker 1: they had a lot of the similar plays that it

709
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:02,279
Speaker 1: made it a little bit easier for a rookie like

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Speaker 1: Dak to come in and understand this playbook. And a

711
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 1: lot of people didn't know that coming into the draft.

712
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 1: Obviously Lenahan did, yep, But that I think that plays

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Speaker 1: into it too. Absolutely, Time for one more question. One

714
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Speaker 1: more question. Who are the best strong side linebackers in

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Speaker 1: this draft that fit for the Cowboys and are realistic

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Speaker 1: to be in their range? Kelly Cowboy wants to know

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00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:27,360
Speaker 1: question of the day. I haven't had the question a

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Speaker 1: day in a while. Thank you very much for that. Kids. Oh, Brian,

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Speaker 1: what do you think it's? Sam? Is there Sam in this?

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Speaker 1: Where would you play? Where would you play? Riddick? Mm?

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Speaker 1: I think he's probably best inside in a three to four,

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Speaker 1: maybe probably a week and I think on the week side,

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Speaker 1: how about Riley another week? Another week? What I like

724
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Speaker 1: him better as a well? If he's in a four

725
00:36:57,360 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 1: to three, it's tougher. Three to four. I want him

726
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Speaker 1: getting after the quarterback right, But in a four to three,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if I love that fit. Yeah, you know,

728
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Speaker 1: I I don't know Anderson Alabama. I struggle with Anderson.

729
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:12,239
Speaker 1: He's one of those things that he is. He is

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Speaker 1: a struggle because there's a lot of talent there. I

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Speaker 1: just don't know where he fits best. And the Senior

732
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Speaker 1: Bowl didn't help me. I think the combine and watching

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Speaker 1: tape in March is really going to what's going to

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Speaker 1: take to figure out Ryan Anderson in terms of what's

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Speaker 1: his value and what he's gonna be at the pro level.

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Speaker 1: About the top of the board. About Cunningham, Vanderbilt like

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00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 1: him quite a bit. I did see us one of

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Speaker 1: my favorite guys. Oh yeah, you like him? Top five?

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Speaker 1: I do. I use one of my everybody nobody wants

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Speaker 1: to Nobody wants to like this guy with me. No,

741
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Speaker 1: I like him. You see examples of him using that length,

742
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Speaker 1: shedding and flowing to the play. As a SAM you

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Speaker 1: attack consistently, and I'm not sure if that's Cunningham. I

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00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 1: don't know if he can do it consistently. I've seen

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Speaker 1: him do it. I know he can because he flashes

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Speaker 1: that explosive body, uses those long arms. I just don't

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Speaker 1: know if he can do it consistently fair enough. I'll

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Speaker 1: tell you what, man, I love him. He's awesome. I do,

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Speaker 1: and I hope that he I hope I'm actually right

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Speaker 1: about somebody. Yeah, he's my guy. Cutting him as my guy.

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00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:14,279
Speaker 1: I think he's the top twenty players. So I don't

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Speaker 1: hate him. I just don't love him as he's a

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Speaker 1: good football player. Thanks coach, appreciate that he's a good

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Speaker 1: football player. Okay, when we come back, we're gonna take

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Speaker 1: Taylor's got some more stuff. Taylor's takes we'll carry on,

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Speaker 1: Brian brought us day Burglar Taylor Stern, Kent Carrison, executive producer.

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Speaker 1: Get about eighteen minutes or so left in the show,

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Speaker 1: and I'm gonna do a little thing called Taylor's takes

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Speaker 1: Yes for questions. If when we get through these, maybe

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Speaker 1: that as well. Eight eight eight eight five five two

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Speaker 1: there for you know, and hanging out with us. We've

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Speaker 1: got it on the periscope, on the app, all these things,

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Speaker 1: all these different platforms that Taylor is so proficient at. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it makes it happen now. Yeah, Ken Garrison does a

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Speaker 1: heck of a job with that, and so, but we

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Speaker 1: appreciate everybody follow along. We appreciate all the folks to

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Speaker 1: go back and listen to this though, you know as

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Speaker 1: the Tape is a good podcast to listen to as well,

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Speaker 1: So check that. He just comes out on Mondays. Yeah, yeah, well,

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Speaker 1: and you guys, I'm sure we'll maybe have something going

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Speaker 1: on from the Combine as well, So Dane will be

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Speaker 1: part of the coverage, David Helma will be part of

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Speaker 1: the coverage, and Rob Phillips will be part of the

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Speaker 1: coverage from the combine. So we'll do all that. So

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Speaker 1: it is very exciting. We got it all. Yeah, but

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Speaker 1: ready to ask you some questions and go for it.

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Speaker 1: Taylor's takes here, these gurgurus in here. Yeah, there we go.

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Speaker 1: Last year, I really really felt like I had to

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Speaker 1: fight for Ezekiel Elliott because a lot of people didn't

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Speaker 1: think you could take a running back at fourth. Overall,

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Speaker 1: I think it paid off for the Cowboys. But can

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Speaker 1: you guys name one player that you would truly fight

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Speaker 1: for in this draft? Dame, give us your guy fight

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Speaker 1: for him. Somebody that like it may not be the

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Speaker 1: best fit for the Cowboys. Don't care. I just want

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Speaker 1: to know someone who you would fight. So if I'm

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys at twenty eight, who would I fight for? Yes,

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Speaker 1: Like you are banging on the table, as Brian says,

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Speaker 1: and this guy on this team, you can't believe he's

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Speaker 1: still there on the board. Let's just live in a fantasyland.

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Speaker 1: Who is it? I probably might go with OJ Howard.

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Speaker 1: The talents, a tight end from Alabama. I don't know

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Speaker 1: if he's gonna be there, but if he is, I

843
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:46,760
Speaker 1: know this team needs defense. This team needs a pass rusher,

844
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:49,759
Speaker 1: needs a cornerback. Help. But if you can add a

845
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 1: talent like OJ Howard who is going to help you

846
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:55,200
Speaker 1: from day one, and he's going to get better as

847
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:57,440
Speaker 1: a blocker and as a receiver. He can stretch the seam,

848
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 1: he can do different things. Really just add another dimension

849
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:04,120
Speaker 1: to this offense. I don't think you can pass up O. J. Howard.

850
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 1: I'd be I'd be being in a table for him. Okay, y, yeah,

851
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:08,919
Speaker 1: that is fair. And I'll tell you what. I'm gonna

852
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:11,640
Speaker 1: take another route here. I would I'm gonna fight at

853
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:15,239
Speaker 1: twenty eight for tack McKinley. If he's there, I really am,

854
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:17,399
Speaker 1: and I know we have the shoulder and all the things.

855
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:19,920
Speaker 1: I think this is a very versatile football player. I

856
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:21,840
Speaker 1: think he could play right in, he could play left in.

857
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:23,879
Speaker 1: You could stand him up, you can put his hand down.

858
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 1: There's a lot of different things that you can do

859
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 1: with Tack McKinley, Lawson McKinley, those guys, I think they're

860
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:31,799
Speaker 1: gonna be at the bottom board. But I think when

861
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 1: it comes time to pick, when it comes time to pick,

862
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:38,280
Speaker 1: he'll be the guy that probably has the best grade

863
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 1: of a wide receiver, of a potential corner, of a

864
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:47,759
Speaker 1: potential safety there as well. So Tack McKinley would be

865
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:49,880
Speaker 1: the guy that I would if we were if we

866
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:51,880
Speaker 1: were talking about okay, wait, we've got this corner, We

867
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 1: got this. I'm banging the table for Tack McKinley to

868
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:56,840
Speaker 1: be here. I just think that he can give you

869
00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 1: something as a as a big time edge rusher, versatile player,

870
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:04,839
Speaker 1: better or worse. Chance fifty fifty that he's there at

871
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 1: twenty eight in your mind, in my mind, I'm living

872
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 1: in fantasyland thinking that you know that, get your I

873
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 1: think that's I think he'll go earlier. Yeah, and maybe

874
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:15,880
Speaker 1: it'll become a no brainer for somebody after they call.

875
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 1: But if we start, if we're up there and we'll

876
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 1: start talking about, well, we've got this guy, and you know,

877
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:23,240
Speaker 1: the stack is maybe you've got some guys with similar

878
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:27,920
Speaker 1: grades and all that, and he's one of I'm like, guys, really,

879
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:30,719
Speaker 1: you know, let's think about this. You know all the

880
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:33,960
Speaker 1: things we talked about, you know, safe players and that

881
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 1: and productive players. I think he's all that. If McKinley

882
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:39,440
Speaker 1: doesn't run a four or five at the combine, yeah,

883
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:41,719
Speaker 1: it might be a little disappointed. I think he might be.

884
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:44,640
Speaker 1: I might I might be wrong about that. You're talking

885
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:47,239
Speaker 1: a lot about versatile players, which kind of plays into

886
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 1: my next question. Yes, Solomon Thomas, obviously I love watching Stamford.

887
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 1: Who I love watching Stamford. I'm curious though, he's a

888
00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:59,319
Speaker 1: very versatile player. That's gonna be a plus for him

889
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 1: in this draft. What's his best position? That's a great question,

890
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 1: because that is something that I will be debated and

891
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:06,480
Speaker 1: I don't think there will be a consensus. Yeah, you know,

892
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:08,759
Speaker 1: it depends on scheme, depends on what you want to do.

893
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 1: He looks like an edge rusher. You know, he's six

894
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:16,840
Speaker 1: two two seventy five, right right, that's he looks like

895
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 1: a bass end, and that's where I think he probably

896
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:23,320
Speaker 1: will start off. But he does so. He does so

897
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:26,120
Speaker 1: many good things from the interior because his powerful hands,

898
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 1: his quickness, I mean, he has that ability to you know,

899
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:31,239
Speaker 1: the closer he gets to the ball, oh yeah, I mean,

900
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:33,359
Speaker 1: the more explosive he gets and the more impact he makes.

901
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 1: So I guess you know he's a bass end on

902
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:39,279
Speaker 1: early downs, you move them inside. On passing downs, I

903
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:41,800
Speaker 1: don't want to put him into one position, you know,

904
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:43,759
Speaker 1: you move them around a little bit and just let

905
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 1: him be explosive from different areas. If I had to

906
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 1: put him in one spot, I might put him at

907
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:49,360
Speaker 1: three technique. I don't think you're wrong, Yeah, I mean,

908
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:51,239
Speaker 1: and I like what you said about put him close

909
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 1: to the ball and let him go. He is an

910
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 1: explosive player, he's strong, he's really young. Is he twenty

911
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:58,879
Speaker 1: years old? Yeah? I mean he isn't. I mean, there's

912
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:02,360
Speaker 1: so many positive things it's about him that as a player,

913
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:04,879
Speaker 1: and I would just I think it's I think three

914
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:08,720
Speaker 1: technique is actually better than defensive end. But I wouldn't

915
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:11,320
Speaker 1: discount him playing defensive end at all in the NFL.

916
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:13,920
Speaker 1: Not bad, not bad. But you know, we talk about

917
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:16,920
Speaker 1: these drafts and how they have different depths at certain positions.

918
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:19,560
Speaker 1: Cowboys being at twenty eight, you know that kind of

919
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 1: puts them at a disadvantage. But give me a position

920
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:26,279
Speaker 1: that you wouldn't necessarily draft early that this draft just

921
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 1: has plenty of them, or you can see yourself getting

922
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:33,640
Speaker 1: one later on. You probably have to go wide receiver. Yeah,

923
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:37,279
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think the options on Day two. Now,

924
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:39,200
Speaker 1: if John Ross is there at twenty eight, it's gonna

925
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:42,279
Speaker 1: make you think, all right, McKinley or Ross. Now, let's

926
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:45,000
Speaker 1: have that discussion. We just I know we talked about McKinley.

927
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:47,880
Speaker 1: I'm going with the past rusher. Yeah, me too. I

928
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 1: mean I don't see. That's why I would jump up

929
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:53,200
Speaker 1: on the table and I like Ross, right, and it

930
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 1: See it's tough because it's say defense. Yeah, you don't

931
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:57,800
Speaker 1: want to window dress your board, Nope. But if you have,

932
00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:00,080
Speaker 1: say you have Ross one step ahead of McKinley, m

933
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:03,840
Speaker 1: hmm on your board, I still think you go McKinley

934
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 1: just because he's a pass rusher. Impacts the game more. Yeah,

935
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 1: and I know what you say. You don't win to

936
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:11,359
Speaker 1: the board, but in that situation you feel a lot

937
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:14,480
Speaker 1: better about the pass rusher in the first round and

938
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 1: a receiver in the second or third over Then then

939
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 1: I did a poor job. Then I did a poor

940
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:21,240
Speaker 1: job of fighting for the player when we were stacking

941
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:24,239
Speaker 1: the board. If if that happens, then I need to

942
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:26,960
Speaker 1: keep my mouth shut. Look, I mean, I get what

943
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:28,800
Speaker 1: you're saying, but players are simile. I mean, you know, no,

944
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:31,719
Speaker 1: I understand. I mean, like, no, Seawan Merriman and the

945
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 1: Marcus ware had the same grade. But but where was

946
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:37,960
Speaker 1: over Merriman on the board? Yeah, you know, I mean

947
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:40,520
Speaker 1: that's the way it was. And happy about that choice. Yeah,

948
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:42,839
Speaker 1: but but they had the same grade, you know. I mean,

949
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:46,319
Speaker 1: I if I'm stacking that thing and my guy doesn't win,

950
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:49,720
Speaker 1: and I'm just in my mind, I'm going, Okay, I noted,

951
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 1: But you know, I'm just trying to limit my mistakes.

952
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:55,320
Speaker 1: When when players have similar grades that the same position,

953
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:58,440
Speaker 1: that becomes a little easier. But if similar positions or

954
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:01,239
Speaker 1: similar grades a different position and on different signs of

955
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:04,719
Speaker 1: the ball, right, then it becomes a little more excusable.

956
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:06,920
Speaker 1: To go with the pass rusher. If you have a

957
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:09,480
Speaker 1: similar grade over a player, you think you feel good

958
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:11,719
Speaker 1: about getting a receiver second third, fourth round. Yeah. So

959
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 1: who wouldn't you draft early? He said, the wide receiver?

960
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:17,360
Speaker 1: Who would you not draft early? I wouldn't draft. I

961
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:18,920
Speaker 1: don't think you can find it. I don't think if

962
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:22,000
Speaker 1: you had to pick an offensive tackle in this draft early, yeah,

963
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 1: you know. I mean I don't see that group. And

964
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:27,440
Speaker 1: I know, you know, with ram Check and all that,

965
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 1: I don't see a guy that if I had to

966
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:33,600
Speaker 1: take an offensive tackle in the first round, and I'm like, man,

967
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 1: I'm dying for a tackle as I think it would

968
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:40,000
Speaker 1: be a mistake and I and I think Ramcheck is

969
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:42,759
Speaker 1: more of a late one two kind of a guy.

970
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:46,360
Speaker 1: But man, I would be scared. I would be scared

971
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:48,440
Speaker 1: to drift. I'll see another position, Like if you had

972
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:51,279
Speaker 1: to draft a one technique, you know, a guy big.

973
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:53,560
Speaker 1: I mean, I think not that anybody would take win

974
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:56,120
Speaker 1: the first but I'm not really sure about that. I

975
00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 1: mean the top one technique for me is probably Tomlinson.

976
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:02,279
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, Alabama. Yeah, So and that's a guy you

977
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:05,880
Speaker 1: I have a second third round grader. There you go, Okay, okay,

978
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:10,759
Speaker 1: cornerbacks we're very important. We've talked about them. Who is

979
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:15,840
Speaker 1: the most outstanding slot corner in this draft? Well, you know,

980
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:18,200
Speaker 1: I think a player like Marshawn Lattimore can do it.

981
00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:19,800
Speaker 1: You know, he has the athleticism to do it. But

982
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:22,520
Speaker 1: if we're gonna talk about more of a nickel corner,

983
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:25,520
Speaker 1: a guy that you're gonna bring in nickel situations to

984
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:28,920
Speaker 1: cover slot, which this team likes to do. Right, guy

985
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:31,320
Speaker 1: we mentioned earlier, Corn Elder from Miami, I think he

986
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:34,360
Speaker 1: can do it because if you're gonna be a slot corner,

987
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:37,919
Speaker 1: you have to be able to tackle, right. He could tackle. Yeah,

988
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:39,200
Speaker 1: you have to be a tough son of a gun,

989
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:42,080
Speaker 1: And I think that's corn Elder. He's not the biggest guy,

990
00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:45,600
Speaker 1: not the longest guy, but he's tough. He has better

991
00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:48,239
Speaker 1: strength than you what you think, and yet he's a

992
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:50,640
Speaker 1: supreme athlete. So I think corn Elder would make a

993
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:52,680
Speaker 1: lot of sound. Who's the guys? Let me take the

994
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:55,800
Speaker 1: little further to answer a great question of the short guys,

995
00:49:55,920 --> 00:50:01,720
Speaker 1: Elder Jackson or Lewis Jackson being us see Lewis being Michigan.

996
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:05,400
Speaker 1: If you had to take a smaller corner to play slot.

997
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:08,759
Speaker 1: Which one of those three would you take? I'd take

998
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:11,279
Speaker 1: Jordan Lewis. I think he has the cover skills that

999
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:14,680
Speaker 1: you want. Um. I feel better about Corn Elder maybe

1000
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:17,600
Speaker 1: as a run defender, but I think Jordan Lewis is

1001
00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:20,320
Speaker 1: just in terms of pure cover skills, right coverage ability,

1002
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:22,799
Speaker 1: I feel better about him than those other two guys

1003
00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:26,080
Speaker 1: you mentioned. I think I would take Elder, Okay, I

1004
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:28,400
Speaker 1: think I would take Elder and then and then Lewis

1005
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:34,080
Speaker 1: and Jackson one two and then Jackson. Is that what

1006
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:36,399
Speaker 1: it is? Jackson's way down Jackson. But I'm just talking

1007
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 1: about those short corner packs. The sure Jackson's gonna look

1008
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:41,680
Speaker 1: great the combine because he's sure really well. Yeah, I

1009
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:44,000
Speaker 1: just I don't know. There's very much bad get ready,

1010
00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:45,920
Speaker 1: much bad tape on him, get ready for TV scatter,

1011
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:48,800
Speaker 1: him getting bullied at the against in Penn State in

1012
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:55,000
Speaker 1: the Rose Ball bullied gone Ross Utah Dough. I like people.

1013
00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:56,960
Speaker 1: I mean this next question, I feel like I already

1014
00:50:56,960 --> 00:50:59,840
Speaker 1: have the real answer to this, But I'm curious needed

1015
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:03,640
Speaker 1: Jack of All Trades player Christian McCaffrey or Jipple Peppers.

1016
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:06,200
Speaker 1: I feel like the answer is probably obvious. In Peppers.

1017
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:08,960
Speaker 1: But is there a fight for mccaffy. I think the

1018
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:15,239
Speaker 1: answer is obvious, and it's McCaffrey. I get show Peppers,

1019
00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:19,359
Speaker 1: you know. I don't think he's I struggle with where

1020
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:21,759
Speaker 1: he's gonna fit um well, and that's why people would

1021
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:23,880
Speaker 1: probably think that he is a jack of all. Are

1022
00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:26,160
Speaker 1: you gonna play McCaffrey, I don't care. Just put him

1023
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:28,160
Speaker 1: on my offense. I mean, oh, just anywhere you want.

1024
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 1: I'll light him up out wide in the slot, backfield, right.

1025
00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:37,760
Speaker 1: I mean. Christian McCaffrey is one of the smartest runners

1026
00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:42,440
Speaker 1: I've ever evaluated. He understands creases, he understands uh, you

1027
00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:45,480
Speaker 1: know when the yeah, yeah, he understands how to set

1028
00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:48,000
Speaker 1: up his moves. He reads his blocks, he's so good

1029
00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:51,080
Speaker 1: at that. And he's so good with his ball skills,

1030
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:54,160
Speaker 1: catching the ball out the backfield, running routes. He's not

1031
00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:55,680
Speaker 1: the biggest guy. We'll see what he comes in at

1032
00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:57,320
Speaker 1: the combine. Is he two oh five or is he

1033
00:51:57,360 --> 00:52:00,160
Speaker 1: going to be closer to fifteen. I don't think he's

1034
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:01,880
Speaker 1: gonna be a featured back where you want him carrying

1035
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:03,799
Speaker 1: the ball twenty times a game. But he can touch

1036
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:06,160
Speaker 1: the ball twenty times a game and impact your offense

1037
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:10,480
Speaker 1: in a big way. Peppers, I just I guess he

1038
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:12,919
Speaker 1: might be that jack of all trades, master of none,

1039
00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:15,800
Speaker 1: where he can do a few things. But you just

1040
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:18,200
Speaker 1: you kind of worry about where's his home. You know,

1041
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:20,360
Speaker 1: where's he going to fit? Understand that, you know what,

1042
00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:23,440
Speaker 1: You're not wrong about this McCaffrey though, by the way,

1043
00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:25,640
Speaker 1: I was just getting on you about that because you

1044
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:28,239
Speaker 1: can do a lot of things with him. His tape

1045
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:32,640
Speaker 1: is his tape. How's you going wow? More than Pepper's

1046
00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:34,920
Speaker 1: tape does. And if I had to have a guy that,

1047
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:37,640
Speaker 1: I really don't know. Even though I do think I

1048
00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:40,120
Speaker 1: have a plan for McCaffrey, I really don't have a

1049
00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:43,640
Speaker 1: plan for Peppers. And and I'm thinking, do you think

1050
00:52:43,840 --> 00:52:45,239
Speaker 1: let me ask you this, guys, do you think that

1051
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:49,520
Speaker 1: they're gonna be selected near each other the same spot? Probably?

1052
00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:52,040
Speaker 1: I think it's going to depend on what teams are

1053
00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:55,080
Speaker 1: lining up. Yeah, I think yeah, late one, I think

1054
00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:57,759
Speaker 1: they'll be in that area. With McCaffrey, he plays a

1055
00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:01,800
Speaker 1: position where a lot of teams feel comfortable passing on

1056
00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:04,279
Speaker 1: a table draft him. Won't that you know, a team

1057
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:06,520
Speaker 1: like the Patriots a team, like, you know, the Packers.

1058
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:09,359
Speaker 1: I can't rule dowb Boys. I don't think they'll make

1059
00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:12,680
Speaker 1: that move now. But with Peppers, it's just takes a

1060
00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:14,400
Speaker 1: little bit more of a leap of faith, you know,

1061
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:17,120
Speaker 1: because you have to. You're projecting him at a position

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00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:19,919
Speaker 1: where you know, in college he played a little corner,

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00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:23,600
Speaker 1: play a little nicole, play a little linebacker, and showed flashes.

1064
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:25,360
Speaker 1: You know, he can run. He's an elite athlete. But

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00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:28,279
Speaker 1: where's his home? Is he a three down player? A

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00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:30,280
Speaker 1: lot of these questions we need to figure out sounds

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00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:32,280
Speaker 1: a lot like what people were hearious about with Ramsey

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00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:36,400
Speaker 1: last year. Yeah. Yeah, but with Ramsey, I think here

1069
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:40,839
Speaker 1: talking about what home? Where set corner safety? Where's it better?

1070
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:43,600
Speaker 1: High pointing all that stuff. You feel better? Yeah, you

1071
00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:47,160
Speaker 1: felt better about Ramsey. He could play either. With Peppers,

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00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:50,000
Speaker 1: it's more I'm not sure he could play either, you know,

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00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:52,120
Speaker 1: because he kind of a tweener. He's does a little

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00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:53,719
Speaker 1: bit of what you want a linebacker to do, does

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00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:55,040
Speaker 1: a little bit of what you want a corner to do.

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00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:56,680
Speaker 1: That's a little bit of what you want safety to do.

1077
00:53:57,040 --> 00:53:59,440
Speaker 1: So he really, I really believe he needs a hybrid position.

1078
00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:02,160
Speaker 1: If you're drafting drill peppers. You have to draft him

1079
00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:05,120
Speaker 1: with you understanding that you're changing your defense to fit

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00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:07,520
Speaker 1: him in, not trying to force him into what you

1081
00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:10,239
Speaker 1: do on defense. Yeah, you never know what it will be.

1082
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:13,919
Speaker 1: But tall safeties usually don't have success in this league.

1083
00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:19,640
Speaker 1: So why well, Obi melon fawn Wu I said it right,

1084
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:23,719
Speaker 1: with Ukon have success. Yeah, physical marvel and he showed

1085
00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:25,919
Speaker 1: it at the combine, you know the way here's Yukon guys.

1086
00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:28,840
Speaker 1: They just like to show out, yeah what it is

1087
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:31,719
Speaker 1: up there, but the strength and conditioning program gets them ready.

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00:54:34,719 --> 00:54:36,799
Speaker 1: It's a good point. We don't see many six three,

1089
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:39,480
Speaker 1: six four safeties. Yeah, it's very rare that you have

1090
00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:41,480
Speaker 1: those guys. I mean there's been guys been drafted high

1091
00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:44,600
Speaker 1: to like Patrick Bates was picked. He's over sixty three, right,

1092
00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:48,600
Speaker 1: you know, You've had guys like Steve Atwater was over

1093
00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:51,520
Speaker 1: six two. He's had great success. We've got a few

1094
00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:53,759
Speaker 1: of those guys this year with melon Fawn Wu and

1095
00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:58,279
Speaker 1: then also the Louisville kid, Harvey Clemens. Yeah, but I

1096
00:54:58,320 --> 00:55:01,720
Speaker 1: didn't like him as much. I agree. So with melan

1097
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:04,640
Speaker 1: fon Wu. He can run and he can he can

1098
00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:06,839
Speaker 1: cover some ground. Can and I think you know those

1099
00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:10,399
Speaker 1: long strides where that height helps him. Are you thinking

1100
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:12,960
Speaker 1: more of a side tackler stuff like that or take Yeah,

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00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:16,080
Speaker 1: I didn't love his tape. He was okay. I thought

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00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:18,040
Speaker 1: he did better at the Senior Bowl in coverage. I

1103
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:19,920
Speaker 1: mean they lined him at a corner on some of

1104
00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:23,239
Speaker 1: those drills. Makes sense with the range right, and so

1105
00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:27,480
Speaker 1: he covered turn. I think he could for a long

1106
00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:29,680
Speaker 1: legged guy. I saw some I think it was a

1107
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:32,600
Speaker 1: Houston game where the ball went sideline and he went

1108
00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:35,359
Speaker 1: from the middle and like, just bash the guy into

1109
00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:37,879
Speaker 1: the bench. I think bottom line with him is he'll

1110
00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:40,480
Speaker 1: be drafted higher than I would draft him. I think

1111
00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:42,439
Speaker 1: he's going to be in that mid to late third round.

1112
00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:45,000
Speaker 1: That's where I would feel comfortable, right. I think somewhere

1113
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:48,960
Speaker 1: between picks fifty and seventy five would probably come off

1114
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:54,160
Speaker 1: the board. Someone will really want a gamble as possibly big, big,

1115
00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:56,920
Speaker 1: tall safety guy. Yeah. I mean they already have one

1116
00:55:56,920 --> 00:55:59,439
Speaker 1: with Chancellor. I don't want to, but maybe or maybe

1117
00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:02,960
Speaker 1: someone trying to copy Seattle exactly. Yeah, that happens too.

1118
00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:06,520
Speaker 1: Brian is very good about admitting when he is wrong,

1119
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:10,840
Speaker 1: and he does that in a very prideful manner. But

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Speaker 1: in this draft, who is the player that you have

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00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:15,680
Speaker 1: the biggest chance of being wrong about? I think we've

1122
00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:19,439
Speaker 1: identified that. Last year. Yours was kind of maybe Joey Bosa. Yeah,

1123
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:22,560
Speaker 1: so this year, who's the guy that you know you're

1124
00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:25,520
Speaker 1: hesitant about. Maybe one of the risk guys you said earlier,

1125
00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:28,120
Speaker 1: but he could end up being better than we all think.

1126
00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:31,919
Speaker 1: It's a good question. It's a hard question because it's

1127
00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:34,319
Speaker 1: kind of going against whatever you think. Anyway, I think

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00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:36,600
Speaker 1: the easy way would be go with one of these quarterbacks,

1129
00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:39,120
Speaker 1: just because there is such there's so much doubt with

1130
00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:41,360
Speaker 1: one of them. I'll try to stay away from the quarterbacks.

1131
00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:44,959
Speaker 1: I'll say Quincy Wilson from Florida. Yeah, he's a player

1132
00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:47,320
Speaker 1: who I just don't think it's very good. And everybody's

1133
00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:49,440
Speaker 1: got him up real high on the board in the

1134
00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:52,360
Speaker 1: top fifty first round player. Yeah, but the tape shows

1135
00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:55,359
Speaker 1: a player who doesn't have the speed that you want

1136
00:56:55,360 --> 00:56:58,560
Speaker 1: a corner right, doesn't understand spacing the way you want.

1137
00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:00,759
Speaker 1: He has a few splash is where he'll make a

1138
00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:04,520
Speaker 1: pick and return it for a big game, But watching

1139
00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:08,360
Speaker 1: his tape snap after snap, a good sized athlete and

1140
00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:11,520
Speaker 1: he might test okay, and so that's going to help him.

1141
00:57:12,120 --> 00:57:15,440
Speaker 1: But I just don't see a consistent football player. I

1142
00:57:15,520 --> 00:57:17,800
Speaker 1: have him grated as a safety because I just don't

1143
00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:19,439
Speaker 1: think he's gonna be able to stay at corner. Yeah,

1144
00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:22,000
Speaker 1: you know, and I'll stay with Florida. The opposite. I

1145
00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:24,880
Speaker 1: think I could be really wrong about Tabor. You know,

1146
00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:27,200
Speaker 1: you like him. I like him a lot. I like

1147
00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:29,439
Speaker 1: Test Tabor. I like him a lot. And I feel

1148
00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:31,840
Speaker 1: like that I have him maybe too high on the board,

1149
00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:34,280
Speaker 1: you know, and I and I and I would you know,

1150
00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:37,040
Speaker 1: wrong in the opposite way? Yeah? Wrong? Yeah? Wrong? Wrong?

1151
00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:39,919
Speaker 1: Did I have him too high that he doesn't play well,

1152
00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:42,200
Speaker 1: that he that he that he turns into a bust?

1153
00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:43,840
Speaker 1: Who do you feel like you had that last year

1154
00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:46,840
Speaker 1: with just in comparison, like somebody that you really put

1155
00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:49,720
Speaker 1: up high and then he ended up not really delivering

1156
00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:52,600
Speaker 1: as well. I don't know if you can say that

1157
00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:54,120
Speaker 1: right now. It's kind of trying to Yeah, I need

1158
00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:55,680
Speaker 1: to go back and look at my notes. And you know,

1159
00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:58,760
Speaker 1: Miles Jack, Miles Jack, well, yeah, Miles Jack was my

1160
00:57:58,880 --> 00:58:01,560
Speaker 1: number one guy. And I think that Miles Jack, you know,

1161
00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:03,880
Speaker 1: with the situation, if he if he had. If he's

1162
00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:07,240
Speaker 1: bad for Jacksonville this year and doesn't play well, that

1163
00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:08,960
Speaker 1: that will be my that will be my new all

1164
00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:10,959
Speaker 1: timer right there, because he was my number one player

1165
00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:13,480
Speaker 1: on my board. Yeah, and then and then also yeah,

1166
00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:15,840
Speaker 1: I wanted to give him another shot. But yeah, and

1167
00:58:16,200 --> 00:58:18,840
Speaker 1: you said a key phrase. I think it's situational. It's

1168
00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:22,000
Speaker 1: all situational success. I mean, you know, Zeke could have

1169
00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:24,040
Speaker 1: gone somewhere else and maybe he didn't have the old

1170
00:58:24,080 --> 00:58:26,360
Speaker 1: line that he did and would be like, well, he's

1171
00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:28,720
Speaker 1: not even in consideration for Brickie. I just I just

1172
00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:31,040
Speaker 1: want to give him the opportunity. You know, we'll see

1173
00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:33,840
Speaker 1: Thank you so much, Taylor Stern, thank you for answering

1174
00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:38,600
Speaker 1: my question. I appreciate that. Yeah, for Taylor Stern, for

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00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:41,960
Speaker 1: Dane Burglar, for Kate Garrison and Brian brought someone to

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00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:44,640
Speaker 1: thank h Derek Eagleton for letting a ski on the

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Speaker 1: air with this stuff. I want to thank ed Kay

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Speaker 1: Hill for creating this. I want to thank everybody out

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Speaker 1: there for falling along with us. We will see you

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00:58:51,320 --> 00:58:54,000
Speaker 1: next time. We'll start Tuesday. Make sure you're falling at

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00:58:54,040 --> 00:58:56,040
Speaker 1: the draft show. We'll tweet out the times that we

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Speaker 1: will be there, Dane will be involved, David Hellm and myself.

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Speaker 1: We'll have the full updates every day from the combine,

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Speaker 1: so we'll keep you informed so so then we'll see it.

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