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Speaker 1: Welcome bird Gang. On today's show, Rodney Hudson is back,

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Speaker 1: Andy Lee is back and not a moment too soon.

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Speaker 1: Funny how we often take a snap and a hold

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Speaker 1: for Granted, Hudson's returned, by the way, is by no

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Speaker 1: means a cure all would have been ailing the offense

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Speaker 1: in recent weeks, but he is needed. It's Cardinals Cover two,

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Speaker 1: episode five seventeen, and it starts now. Welcome to Cardinals

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Speaker 1: Cover two with Craig Griolu and Mike Jarecki. Cardinals Cover

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Speaker 1: slash podcasts. Going for Hopkins one hand to catch in

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Speaker 1: a touchdown, DeAndre Hopkins. Here's Craig Griolou and Mike Jarecki.

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Speaker 1: So that might have been the coldest practice of the year.

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Speaker 1: Earlier on Wednesday, saw your tweets, you said fifty two.

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Speaker 1: I think it might have been in the upper forties

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Speaker 1: just after nine am. Yeah, that was actually because we're

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Speaker 1: allowed to video and take pictures. But you can't post

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Speaker 1: anything until the twenty minutes are over. So I went

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Speaker 1: and it said fifty two. But I would I would

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Speaker 1: agree with it. It was a brisk fifty two and

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Speaker 1: K one was wearing like you had a sweatshirt underneath

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Speaker 1: his jersey. So some guys were wearing sleeves. I guess

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Speaker 1: we're in Arizona and when it drops to fifty or

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Speaker 1: forty five, but people don't realize that maybe I haven't

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Speaker 1: you know, because of the Fiesta Bowl, and obviously you're

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Speaker 1: mornings and evenings, and you can tell when the when

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Speaker 1: the weather's cooling down. Yes, the air is a lot colder,

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Speaker 1: especially a little bit over casts on Wednesday, getting some rain,

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Speaker 1: which is much needed. But yeah, we're basically to sum

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Speaker 1: it all upbird game, we're a bunch of whips here

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Speaker 1: in Arizona when we're complaining with the weather drops below

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Speaker 1: fifty degrees, but it's still not freezing like it is

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Speaker 1: in some places around the United States. Oh no, I

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Speaker 1: mean listen, I see people shoveling snow, We're shoveling sunshine. Yes, big,

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Speaker 1: big difference. All right, let's get into what we saw

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Speaker 1: during the open portion of practice, actually what we didn't see.

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Speaker 1: James Connor not spotted, Rondel Moore did go through team stretch,

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Speaker 1: and then that was about it. Marco Wilson, Zach Allen,

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Speaker 1: Jordan Phillips not present, now Connor and more. According to

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Speaker 1: head coach Cliff Kingsbury, day to day likely game day decisions.

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Speaker 1: The news not so good on Marco Wilson and the

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Speaker 1: for this week. Well, it's disappointing because he's a starter.

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Speaker 1: B they don't have Robert Alford for another week and

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Speaker 1: so it's going to be a lot of Antonio Hamilton

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Speaker 1: Now luckily hopefully it's not long term because he is

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Speaker 1: Antonio Hamilton has played, He's given this team a lift.

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Speaker 1: Don't forget there was a game that Byron Murphy and

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Speaker 1: couple of years. I just think he's a little bit

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Speaker 1: the practice squad, which they did last week. Brion Borders

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Speaker 1: That are new protocols. However, with the National Football League,

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Speaker 1: off the reserve COVID nineteen list, Rodney Hudson. You mentioned it,

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Speaker 1: Those two words, big deal Kingsbury's words when you talk

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Speaker 1: I gotta assume they did practice it. Obviously. You know,

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Speaker 1: look real fast here that game at Seattle. Yeah, Aaron

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Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals. All Right, you mentioned Rodney Hudson, and we

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Speaker 1: was an interesting phrase that Kingsbury used earlier in the

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Speaker 1: week with respects to Rodney Hudson quote, He's the security

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Speaker 1: Kelvin Beacham talking about the stability that Hudson provides on

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Speaker 1: was we're falling behind and that's what happens. But we

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Speaker 1: You know, seven to ten points scoring that first quarter

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Speaker 1: he threw that interception to Zach Ertz, they really haven't

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Speaker 1: recovered in the red zone since then, and now is

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Speaker 1: three games ago. So yeah, like I said, I getting

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Speaker 1: Hudson back if Max Garcia is in there, I think

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Speaker 1: this is a game where you want to run the

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Speaker 1: football because Dallas right now they're they're they're potent scoring scoring.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he got a two headed monster between Pollard

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Speaker 1: and Zeke Shultz the tight end. He's got six touchdowns

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Speaker 1: and you're throwing Cdee lamb Amari Cooper and who I'm issing,

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Speaker 1: Michael Gallop. So I mean they got weapons, and so

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Speaker 1: to me, run the ball Conal, like Kyler said, he

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Speaker 1: knows teams are trying to keep him on the sidelines.

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Speaker 1: He told us on on Wednesday, and that's been the

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Speaker 1: m O. Your best defense against Kyler Murray is an

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Speaker 1: offense that can sustain drives, move the football. The Cardinals

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Speaker 1: have been able to move the football until you get

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Speaker 1: inside the red zone and that's when things installed. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you put up three hundred and fifty plus yards and

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Speaker 1: only scoring twelve and sixteen points. That that doesn't compute.

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Speaker 1: So something's off. Yeah, And and really when you look

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Speaker 1: look at some of these games, you know, maybe the

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Speaker 1: Lions game, the time of possession was overwhelming. Even in

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Speaker 1: this game. That's why you know, I didn't like the

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Speaker 1: Cardinals story in three consecutive downs, taking two two h

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Speaker 1: nine off the clock when your defense have been on

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Speaker 1: the field close to thirty five minutes going in late

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Speaker 1: in the third quarter. But to me, they have to

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Speaker 1: establish a run. It just makes so much sense for

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Speaker 1: this offense, and that's where it really starts. But I

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Speaker 1: do like the fact that they're gonna have their five

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Speaker 1: best right now, and if it happens to be Garcia

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Speaker 1: or Jones, but the whole key is Rodney Hudson Kingsbury

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Speaker 1: acknowledge that this offense is not at their best when

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Speaker 1: they're throwing the ball a ton, And yes, it factors

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Speaker 1: in that you don't have DeAndre Hopkins. But earlier in

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Speaker 1: this season this team went two and one because they

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Speaker 1: ran the football. Now, Coute McCoy was the quarterback. I

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Speaker 1: get it, So maybe there's more to it than just Hey,

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Speaker 1: Rodney Hudson was in those three games. He was your

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Speaker 1: starting center. He was snapping the ball. But Coulte McCoy, now,

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, is he the answer to figure

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Speaker 1: out how do you run an offense without DeAndre Hopkins

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Speaker 1: on the football field? You look at that game against

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Speaker 1: San Francisco and Seattle, thirty nine rushing attempts, thirty three

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Speaker 1: rushing attempts. Now, it helped that they had leads early

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Speaker 1: in that game. Fourteen nothing at San Francisco, seven nothing

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Speaker 1: at Seattle. So you want to look at why this

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Speaker 1: offense is struggling now versus why it wasn't earlier in

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Speaker 1: the season when DeAndre Hopkins wasn't on the football field.

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Speaker 1: While this Cardinals team plays much better when they have

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Speaker 1: a lead, they're not a come from behind football team.

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Speaker 1: They're seven and two when they score first, seven and

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Speaker 1: two when they lead after the first quarter, oh and

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Speaker 1: five win, trailing at the end of the third quarter,

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Speaker 1: one and four win, trailing at halftime. Now, going back

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Speaker 1: to Colton McCoy, in that San Francisco game, he was

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Speaker 1: twenty two of twenty six I mean close to eighty

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Speaker 1: five percent, averaging ten yards per attempt. Carolina game, obviously

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Speaker 1: they got behind, he was loving for twenty fifty five percent,

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Speaker 1: only averaging five three. Seattle game, he threw the ball

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Speaker 1: forty four times. He was thirty five or forty four,

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Speaker 1: again eighty percent completion percentage, had a couple of touchdown passes.

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Speaker 1: And now he was only sex six times in all

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Speaker 1: three of those games two two and two. So it

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Speaker 1: wasn't like Colton McCoy was only throwing the ball twenty

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Speaker 1: five times, I mean twenty two for twenty six obviously

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Speaker 1: the Carolina game, but in Seattle and they had to

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Speaker 1: run the football too there, But they threw the ball

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Speaker 1: forty four times. That's not the recipe to win it.

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Speaker 1: And it never gonna have fifty fifty if you can

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Speaker 1: get thirty to thirty three runs and you get sixty

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Speaker 1: five to sixty eight snaps. That's the key. And when

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Speaker 1: I was going to bring up when I was when

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Speaker 1: I was thinking about this over the least three games,

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Speaker 1: It's not like the other teams had seventy five snaps

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Speaker 1: and the Cardinals had forty five. It's been closer. The

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Speaker 1: thing is time of possession, and it's what you do

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Speaker 1: with the football when you when you get in the

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Speaker 1: red zone. And all these teams have scored in the

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Speaker 1: red zone and the Cardinals have not, and that's been

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Speaker 1: the biggest difference, time of possession, red zone efficiency. Cardinals

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Speaker 1: need to do much better job of getting out to

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Speaker 1: a good lead to where they can be more balanced.

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Speaker 1: Because those last three games forty nine fifty forty three

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Speaker 1: passing attempts, the three highest passing attempts of the season.

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Speaker 1: And I get some of that is because you're trailing

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Speaker 1: in the second half, but look at the first thirty

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Speaker 1: minutes of the game. This team has gotten away from

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Speaker 1: what made it so successful in the first seven games

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Speaker 1: of the regular season, being balanced and utilizing everyone. Now

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Speaker 1: I'll say this Christmas Night was the first time this

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Speaker 1: season the Cardinals played without their starting center, starting wide receiver,

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Speaker 1: and we're missing James Connor. If you get James Connor back,

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Speaker 1: now you get that one two punch in the backfield.

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Speaker 1: Rodney Hudson is back. That shores up the offensive line

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Speaker 1: and you'll have to figure out what wide receiver steps

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Speaker 1: up in the absence of DeAndre Hopkins. De hops missing

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Speaker 1: cannot mean this much to the offense. There's more to

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Speaker 1: it than that you take off a major playmaker. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you're going to suffer, but I'm sorry. A wide receiver

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Speaker 1: should not have that much of an impact on an offense.

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Speaker 1: He does account for defenses. His presence factors into how

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Speaker 1: defenses defend you. But you have to adjust. And that's

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Speaker 1: where the coaching staff and Kyler Murray come into play

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Speaker 1: because it's on them to figure it out. Whether it's

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Speaker 1: Antoine Wesley or more zach Ertz or Chase Edmonds and

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Speaker 1: James Connor coming out of the backfield. You lose DeAndre Hopkins.

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Speaker 1: It's a huge blow, but it's not at deathnow. No.

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Speaker 1: I mean, and I think if we bought him lying

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Speaker 1: this when you know Hopkins, I keep mentioning seven red

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Speaker 1: zone touchdowns where they're struggling now, But if I had

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Speaker 1: a preference. What's been going on. I prefer to have

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Speaker 1: Rodney Hudson back because they have other weapons. Now it's

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Speaker 1: a matter of Christian Kirk can't drop the football when

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Speaker 1: the ball's right in his hands. He's not trying to

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Speaker 1: do it. Wesley, he looked like Dia Hop out there.

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Speaker 1: I like his upside. I like his mentality played for

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Speaker 1: Cliff he flashed in training camp. AJ Green, he's you know,

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Speaker 1: up and down. You know, two or three games ago

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Speaker 1: he had a hundred yards and last week one catch

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Speaker 1: for thirty three. So and then zach Ertz has kind

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Speaker 1: of been the target. Him and Christian Kirk have really

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Speaker 1: taken the targets away from Hop. But I thought, I

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Speaker 1: thought Drew Stanton, who really brings a lot to the table.

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Speaker 1: We had him on the red seat report yesterday and

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Speaker 1: he wants to see both un and Edmunds in the

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Speaker 1: game at the same time because they're not one trick ponies.

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Speaker 1: They can run between the tackles. Obviously, you're in short

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Speaker 1: yardage that goes to Connor and you can put Chase

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Speaker 1: in motion and throw that screen pass to him where

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Speaker 1: if they're going to try to rush you, because again

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Speaker 1: they're gonna rush for without Blitzen unless Parsons coming off

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Speaker 1: the edge. So again, just getting back your star players,

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Speaker 1: guys that have guys that have looked the part and

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Speaker 1: they played the part during the season that will go

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Speaker 1: a long way. Experience at the center position. As far

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Speaker 1: as seeing defenses, now, I don't know how much of

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Speaker 1: a Cowboys defense Rodney Hudson has seen over the years,

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Speaker 1: and certainly being in the AFC now in the NFC.

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Speaker 1: But let's touch on this Cowboys defense here on Cardinals

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Speaker 1: Cover two presented by Honday, proud partner of the Arizona

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Speaker 1: Cardinals or a minor week seventeen. The kickoff on Sunday two,

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Speaker 1: twenty five, nine thirty am. Pregame coverage begins on the

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Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals Radio Network. But this Cowboys team, as much

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Speaker 1: as people have been talking about the offense based off

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Speaker 1: the fifty six to fourteen beating of Washington on Sunday

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Speaker 1: Night Football, this Cowboys defense, under Dan Quinn, long time

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Speaker 1: football coach, former Falcons head coach, now in his first

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Speaker 1: season with the Cowboys as defensive coordinator, seventh and points

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Speaker 1: allowed number one, though in takeaways number one. On third

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Speaker 1: down and those are some of the stats and the

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Speaker 1: statistical categories that we hear Vans Joseph talk about. How

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Speaker 1: are you inside the red zone? Are you keeping the

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Speaker 1: team out of the end zone? Are you taking the

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Speaker 1: football away? Are you getting them off the field on

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Speaker 1: third down? Cowboys are doing that. And they've got DeMarcus

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Speaker 1: Lawrence or Randy Gregory, Michael Parsons in the middle, Travon

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Speaker 1: Diggs in the secondary. They have playmakers at all three

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Speaker 1: levels and they're clicking. And there was no slump defensively.

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Speaker 1: There was a slump on the offensive side of the ball,

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Speaker 1: but defensively, this Cowboys team been playing very well all season. Well,

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Speaker 1: I mean, we talk about the Cardinals, you know, defensively,

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Speaker 1: and it really happened earlier in the season. You know,

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Speaker 1: right now, Bud Barbara Murphy has four interceptions, Baker has three,

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Speaker 1: Jalen Thompson two, and then you've got a couple of

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Speaker 1: Zach Allen Alford and Simmons. They have twelve interceptions, Trayvon

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Speaker 1: Dix has eleven. Do you know how many they have

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Speaker 1: as a team twenty five twenty five best twenty five

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Speaker 1: interceptions and they score over one hundred points in each quarter. Now,

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Speaker 1: the Cardinals first and fourth quarter they're a little bit less,

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Speaker 1: but in the second and the third quarter, the Cardinals

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Speaker 1: have scored one hundred points in those quarters, one hundred

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Speaker 1: and twenty one nineteen, one oh three, one oh nine.

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Speaker 1: And then you start looking at their special teams. They

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Speaker 1: got one of the best punters in the league. We

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Speaker 1: know that John Bones, Jim Fossil's son, John Fossil, he

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Speaker 1: was with the Rams. They brought him in as a

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Speaker 1: special teams coordinator. You know, he's the guy that will

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Speaker 1: try to go for a fake punt. I mean, they're

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Speaker 1: they're just well coached. And to me, no disrespect to

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Speaker 1: the previous of Mike was it Mike Nolan was there

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Speaker 1: last year, Dan Quinn. I mean, and sometimes you're better

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Speaker 1: off being the lieutenant than general, because he did a

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Speaker 1: really good job with the Legion of Boom gets the

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Speaker 1: head coaching job, did a nice job. But maybe they

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Speaker 1: never recovered from that twenty five to three Super Bowl

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Speaker 1: and here they hire him and I'm sure he's gonna

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Speaker 1: get another ton of interviews again. But to me, it's

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Speaker 1: the mentality and we shouldn't be surprised. Now, twenty five

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Speaker 1: interceptions I mean, that's off the charts, but that's what

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Speaker 1: they did in Seattle. They create pressure up front, they

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Speaker 1: didn't have the blitz, and then he's just tee off

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Speaker 1: on you. So it's kind of the blueprint that comes

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Speaker 1: with Dan dan quinn when it comes to his defense

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Speaker 1: strong as far as keeping teams out of the end zone.

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Speaker 1: And they've been able to score that defense six defensive touchdowns,

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Speaker 1: five picks six and one FuMB recovery. DeMarcus Lawrence last

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Speaker 1: week recorded his first ever touchdown of his career. He

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Speaker 1: had a forty yard pick six. So that's from a

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Speaker 1: defensive end spot, not someone and a linebacker or secondary.

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Speaker 1: So very impressed by what I've seen and read about

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Speaker 1: this Cowboys defense. Fourteen takeaways during this current four game

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Speaker 1: winning streak to just four turnovers, so they are ten

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Speaker 1: positive plus ten and turnover differential. So you keep possession

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Speaker 1: of the football, don't turn it over. I like your chances. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And let's not gloss over the Cardinals because they scored

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Speaker 1: forty seven touchdowns this year Dallas fifty four. The opponents

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Speaker 1: have scored thirty four against the Cardinals and thirty four

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Speaker 1: against the Cowboys, so both teams have given up thirty

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Speaker 1: four touchdowns on that side fifty four touchdowns Cardinals forty seven.

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Speaker 1: So they're like, it's not like it's overwhelming. They're in

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Speaker 1: the team picture when it comes to that kind of stuff.

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Speaker 1: When you look at what the Cardinals do well offensively,

640
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 1: and I know it hasn't been a lot in recent weeks,

641
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 1: and then you look at how well the Cowboys defensively

642
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:08,440
Speaker 1: are playing. I don't know if there's a particular weakness,

643
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 1: but this team, talking about the Cardinals can't get discouraged

644
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 1: if something's not working immediately, especially playing at AT and

645
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 1: T Stadium, and we can get into the fact that

646
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 1: Kylin Murray's undefeated there. I don't it's a storyline, but

647
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 1: I don't think it's a major factor. How are you

648
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:26,879
Speaker 1: playing going into that game and how are you coming

649
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 1: out of that game means more. You know what's funny

650
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:32,719
Speaker 1: is and our car league, Darren Urban did He's got

651
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:35,319
Speaker 1: a great story online just you know him growing up

652
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:38,399
Speaker 1: and playing in that stadium and he's unbeaten. And then

653
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:41,400
Speaker 1: we fast forward and maybe if this team was you know,

654
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:44,360
Speaker 1: a couple more wins. Calvin beach And was asked about it,

655
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 1: he says, listen, that's a great stat but is that

656
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 1: going to help us what he did in the past

657
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:52,359
Speaker 1: and the red zone, And then Jordan Hicks was asked

658
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:54,960
Speaker 1: about he goes, oh, that's a great number, but kind

659
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:56,880
Speaker 1: of like my theory this year playing the Rams, I

660
00:34:56,880 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 1: mean it doesn't carry. Yeah, I mean he's gone back

661
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,399
Speaker 1: there in play. We know he's been successful and he's

662
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:04,799
Speaker 1: gonna have family and friends there. I mean, hey, more

663
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:06,839
Speaker 1: power to him. I mean he's if he I mean,

664
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 1: he's comfortable, like I thought. Drew brought up a good point.

665
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:13,400
Speaker 1: You know, Jerikoff against the Cardinals and other players sometimes

666
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:16,280
Speaker 1: you just have their number. But this is a completely Dallas,

667
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:19,760
Speaker 1: different Dallas team. Last year there Dak got hurt before

668
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:23,440
Speaker 1: that game, Andy Dalton started. Zeke Elliott was heavy, he

669
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:26,240
Speaker 1: was fumbling the football. But give the Cardinals credit. Christian

670
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 1: Kirk had a couple of touchdown. Christian Kirks played well,

671
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Speaker 1: Yes he has at Texas at I guess the a

672
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 1: T with Texas and yeah, I mean he's played there

673
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:37,719
Speaker 1: and he had two touchdowns last year in that game.

674
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Speaker 1: And that's what they need from Christian Kirk. Eight total

675
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:43,920
Speaker 1: touchdowns in four games at at and T Stadium for

676
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 1: Kyler or Murray, excuse me for Christian Kirk Kyler Murray.

677
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 1: Five of his eight wins came at Island High School,

678
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 1: a couple of state championships, three state championships, one win

679
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:56,920
Speaker 1: when he was with Texas A and M, another win

680
00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,479
Speaker 1: in the Big twelve Championship game with Oklahoma, and last

681
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 1: year on Monday Night Football. But in the Cowboys thirty

682
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:05,400
Speaker 1: eight to ten. But Caliber didn't play particularly well. I

683
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:08,239
Speaker 1: mean he had right he was. He only had one

684
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 1: hundred and eighty eight passing yards. I mean the touchdowns

685
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 1: are what matters, but he was off on his throws.

686
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Speaker 1: Do I recall that happened early in the game or

687
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Speaker 1: you're saying the entire game just early in the Yeah,

688
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:22,360
Speaker 1: I think he was, Well, that's what you're taught was

689
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:24,960
Speaker 1: the homecoming, and that really kind of I wouldn't say

690
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:27,920
Speaker 1: flustered him, but he was pressing alone. I remember watching

691
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:31,239
Speaker 1: that game and I'm thinking he's gotta because clearly going

692
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 1: back there as a pro, it's a little bit different

693
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:37,880
Speaker 1: um family friends. But I do I do recall that.

694
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Speaker 1: I'm glad you brought that up because I just thought

695
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 1: he's got a Calm down, calm down. You know again,

696
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:44,480
Speaker 1: you can't, you know, score ten points on one drive.

697
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 1: So I when you mentioned that, I do recall that

698
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:49,239
Speaker 1: he was too he was too amped up. And that's

699
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:51,480
Speaker 1: to be to me. He was twenty three years old

700
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:54,400
Speaker 1: at the time, going back there playing in the National

701
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 1: Football like against a team that he probably watched growing up.

702
00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 1: There's something to be said about familiarity with that venue

703
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:02,400
Speaker 1: to where you walk in and yes, it's cavernous and

704
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:05,759
Speaker 1: there's this large scoreboard hanging from the ceiling and sometimes

705
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 1: you're in awe. Kyle Murray is not going to be

706
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:11,799
Speaker 1: in awe of that. So I do expect him to

707
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:14,239
Speaker 1: play well, and I think he understands he needs to

708
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:16,360
Speaker 1: play well for this team to write the ship. And

709
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:18,840
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's a must win, but this team

710
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:23,239
Speaker 1: just needs overall to play better on offense. Defense is

711
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 1: a different story. We can get into that on our

712
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 1: next edition of Cardinals Cover Too, presented by Hyundai Probub

713
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 1: partner of the Arizona Cardinals. When we look at that

714
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:32,799
Speaker 1: Cowboys offense and the number of weapons that they have,

715
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:36,880
Speaker 1: but this Cardinals offense needs to figure out to get

716
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 1: not just thirty points, But how about hit that twenty

717
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 1: point mark for the first time in a couple of games. Yeah,

718
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:45,320
Speaker 1: it was interesting because, you know, Darren asked Jordan Hicks,

719
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 1: you know, just about going there last year, and when

720
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 1: you get to this point in the year and base

721
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:51,880
Speaker 1: some being on a three game losing streak. You know

722
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 1: what I mean. I think you have to treat this

723
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:56,799
Speaker 1: like a playoff game. I mean, because what's Seattle gonna

724
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 1: look like? And weedy are they gonna play everyone? They're

725
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:02,040
Speaker 1: gonna play spoiler hopefully the Coldineals won't have any more injuries.

726
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 1: This is the closest thing you're gonna get to before

727
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 1: you before you get into the playoffs. The Seattle game,

728
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:09,319
Speaker 1: you gotta win it. Take care of business, goal five

729
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:11,799
Speaker 1: and one in the division, win a home game. But

730
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:14,359
Speaker 1: this is the next time they play a game like

731
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 1: this is going to be in the playoffs. You never

732
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 1: want to make too big of a deal on one

733
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:21,719
Speaker 1: particular game, but it does seem like there is a

734
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:25,839
Speaker 1: more sense of urgency publicly coming from that locker room.

735
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:28,759
Speaker 1: Jordan Hicks quote, it is clear with how the last

736
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:31,319
Speaker 1: couple of games have gone and what we're trying to

737
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:34,880
Speaker 1: accomplish that this is a big game. I wouldn't say

738
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:38,880
Speaker 1: must win, no, clearly. I mean they're all must wins

739
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 1: as you get later in the season, but they're already clinched,

740
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:45,920
Speaker 1: so hopefully that they don't have that pressure. Oh we're pressing.

741
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:47,440
Speaker 1: We gotta we gotta go win this game to get

742
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:49,400
Speaker 1: in the playoffs. They got they got ten wins, they

743
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 1: got two games to go. But this is the This

744
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 1: is the closest game and probably one of the most

745
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:56,879
Speaker 1: complete teams in the league they'll play before they get

746
00:38:56,880 --> 00:39:00,520
Speaker 1: into the playoffs. The Cowboys come in on a four

747
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 1: game winning streak. They're eleven and four. The Cardinals ten

748
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 1: and five, come in on a three game losing streak.

749
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 1: On paper, as far as records are concerned, it shapes

750
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 1: up as one of the better matchups of Week seventeen,

751
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:15,480
Speaker 1: and it got flexed into the late slot on Fox.

752
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:18,880
Speaker 1: So you're getting Joe Buck, Troy Aikman, you're getting that

753
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:22,480
Speaker 1: number one announcing crew. Yet at the same time, who

754
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:24,880
Speaker 1: are you more Who do you have more confidence in

755
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 1: going into this contest? It's the Cowboys. There's no argument

756
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:31,839
Speaker 1: the well I mean you said, I mean you take

757
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 1: both teams combined, they got twenty one wins. You go

758
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 1: back to last year because of the injuries, Dallas finished

759
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:39,719
Speaker 1: six and ten. The Cardinals finish eight and eight. I

760
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:42,720
Speaker 1: mean they got twenty one wins combined. One has eleven

761
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 1: and one has ten. But last year Dallas obviously stubbed

762
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:47,760
Speaker 1: their towhen they got injuries, six and ten. The Cardinals

763
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 1: we know, finished eight and eight, So twenty one wins.

764
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:54,239
Speaker 1: This is a quality matchup. It is like how you

765
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 1: rephrase it as close to a playoff game without it

766
00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:59,840
Speaker 1: being a playoff game, to where it's when you couldn't

767
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:03,680
Speaker 1: you or you go home. But this is a game

768
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 1: that I would like to see this Cardinals team put

769
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:09,880
Speaker 1: it all together and at least have somewhat of a

770
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 1: good feeling going into Week eighteen and into the postseason. Yeah,

771
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 1: and you know I've heard different things, you know, just

772
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:20,440
Speaker 1: to where their confidence is right now. Well, when you

773
00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:23,839
Speaker 1: get beat three in a row, I mean again, this

774
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:27,280
Speaker 1: is I said this every time, you know, talking about football.

775
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 1: You lose three in a row and people are gonna

776
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 1: start questioning things. But I'm encouraged when I'm hearing this

777
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:35,799
Speaker 1: week where again I know the fans they want to

778
00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:38,880
Speaker 1: hear but you can tell the mental, the mental of

779
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 1: a team just based on their talking. They're not down.

780
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 1: They realize they missed some opportunities, but they feel like

781
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:47,359
Speaker 1: to get back and we get back to what they

782
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 1: were doing, whether that's scoring twenty five points or three

783
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:53,880
Speaker 1: hundred yards versus thirty and four hundred. But I feel

784
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 1: good about where they are and what they're saying. Now

785
00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 1: they've got to prove it on Sunday, and that's always

786
00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 1: been the thing. It's one thing to talk about it.

787
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:04,840
Speaker 1: Now you got to act on it and come out

788
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 1: and be ready to play. I don't think this team

789
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:09,160
Speaker 1: was ready to play against the Lions. They took that

790
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:11,960
Speaker 1: team for granted. Oh maybe they weren't quite ready against

791
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 1: the Carolina Panthers, considering it was Colt McCoy and all

792
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 1: of a sudden you look across and it's the Panthers

793
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:19,279
Speaker 1: and they're beat up and they're banged up, and all

794
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 1: of a sudden, Cam Newton comes into the building, and

795
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 1: the entire momentum, the entire energy, if you will, shift

796
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:27,760
Speaker 1: it over to that sideline, even though you were playing

797
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 1: at home. I can understand a Green Bay loss, a

798
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 1: RAMS loss to a certain extent, a Colts loss, but

799
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:38,279
Speaker 1: when you're at home, you need to play better. Now,

800
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:40,319
Speaker 1: this team has played very very well on the road

801
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 1: seven and one. It would be unbelievable, unheard of, remarkable

802
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:46,919
Speaker 1: if this team goes eight and one on the road.

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00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 1: Teams don't win eight road games and a regular season.

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00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 1: I know you get an extra one here with a

805
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 1: seventeen game regular season schedule, but eight wins on the road,

806
00:41:56,680 --> 00:42:01,960
Speaker 1: five wins potentially in the division, that's an outstanding season.

807
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:05,360
Speaker 1: The issue has been the record at home, correct and

808
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:07,839
Speaker 1: right now they would have to go on the road.

809
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 1: But again, if they take care of business and whatever

810
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 1: had well, I guess if the Rams losing the Ravens

811
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, they can get back in position.

812
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:19,400
Speaker 1: But they just they just you gotta you gotta avoid

813
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 1: these lose these streaks. I mean three in a rows

814
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:25,399
Speaker 1: too much. We always held good teams don't lose two

815
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 1: in a row, and they've preached that. Now he lost

816
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 1: three in a row. So it's time to stop the

817
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:32,319
Speaker 1: bleeding and time to get a victory because it will

818
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:35,360
Speaker 1: go a long way from a confidence standpoint, and a

819
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:38,440
Speaker 1: quality went on the road against a quality football team,

820
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:41,920
Speaker 1: and it would quiet, a lot of noise locally nationally.

821
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 1: Now do we know if those coaches and players hear

822
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:48,920
Speaker 1: that noise, Well, we know they're friends and family, do well. Kyler,

823
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:51,440
Speaker 1: you know a few different times he said a lot

824
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 1: of people don't know what they're seeing or looking at.

825
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:58,239
Speaker 1: He I mean, I'm paraphrasing here, but he said, you know,

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Speaker 1: everyone thinks the sky's fallen and you lose through in

827
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:03,080
Speaker 1: a row. It feels like it, to be honest, I'm

828
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:05,279
Speaker 1: sure it's probably worse for them than us. I mean,

829
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 1: we still get to go home and we don't have

830
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:09,400
Speaker 1: to worry about it. People asking us, Hey, what happened

831
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:12,440
Speaker 1: the other day? I get that, but you know what

832
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:16,759
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So it's like I said, I just you

833
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:18,880
Speaker 1: can't go back and change it. Yes, I had a

834
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 1: conversation with them, like if they could have just won

835
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 1: that Lions again, the perception would be so different. Yeah,

836
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:26,319
Speaker 1: I mean the Rams were desperate. They beat him in

837
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:29,320
Speaker 1: Week four, they won they the Rams tree like a

838
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:32,799
Speaker 1: playoff game Cardinals at home Monday night football. But I

839
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:34,400
Speaker 1: think they just could have won that Lions game. But

840
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 1: that didn't happen, So I can't dwell on it. But

841
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 1: the perception would be so different, and when you hear

842
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 1: something over and over, people think it becomes reality. Cardinals

843
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:46,640
Speaker 1: need to change that reality this week. It's gonna be

844
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 1: a great match up to twenty five kickoff nine thirty am.

845
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Speaker 1: Pregame coverage begins and we will continue to break it

846
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:56,920
Speaker 1: down throughout the week, anxious to hear what defensive coordinator

847
00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 1: Vantage Joseph has to say when he turns on the

848
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 1: film and at the Cowboys, specifically when he watched what

849
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 1: happened on Sunday Night football against Washington. Yeah, and I

850
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:08,439
Speaker 1: used your stat when I asked the question of Jordan Hicks.

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00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:10,800
Speaker 1: You know, they've had a hard time stop in the

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Speaker 1: only edged two point four five. Now the idea is

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Speaker 1: to win the game. Now we you and I know

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Speaker 1: what the issue was. It was the secondary. It was

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Speaker 1: the passing game of Carson Wentz. But for three quarters

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Speaker 1: they were in his face. He took some shots and

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Speaker 1: I give him credit because he made a lot of

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Speaker 1: good throws. I didn't know he had that kind of

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Speaker 1: arm streak. And it's always interesting and you watched someone

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Speaker 1: in person and on TV and even our producer Jimmy

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Speaker 1: Aliman Hunter said, I didn't realize how big he was

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Speaker 1: because you see him in the in the shotgun next

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Speaker 1: to Jonathan Taylor and you're like, he's as tall as

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Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor. I mean they're different body types. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: that that again, like I said, getting in Craig, we

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Speaker 1: haven't even touched on something else, and we don't know

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Speaker 1: when these guys are returning, but the Cardinals could in

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Speaker 1: the next three weeks, and I don't know if it's

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Speaker 1: going to happen this week. Zeke Turner and Tanner Vallejo

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Speaker 1: and you know, nothing against Joe Walker, great locker room guy,

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Speaker 1: good special teams guy. He did have trouble covering Doyle

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Speaker 1: before he got hurt. Zeke Turner's more athletic, and people

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Speaker 1: were questioning why Tanner Valley who was in there. It's

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Speaker 1: because of the eyes. He knows the defense. He's been

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Speaker 1: in this system now three years, so you can never

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Speaker 1: have enough depth. And Joe Walker is a really good

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Speaker 1: special teams player. But if you can get Zeke Turner

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Speaker 1: or Tenor Vallejo on there, you know, because right now

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Speaker 1: it doesn't look like Zaven Collins is going to sniff

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Speaker 1: the field. Just based on these guys coming back. We

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Speaker 1: know it's it's Hicks and Simmons, but sometimes they go

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Speaker 1: to their nickel and dine package. And Zeke Turner and

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Speaker 1: Tenor Valojo they have a high football IQ. They're not

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Speaker 1: going to make a lot of mental mistakes out there.

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Speaker 1: Turner more of a special teams guy, but can play

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Speaker 1: defense in a pinch. She has not played since Week five,

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Speaker 1: hurt his shoulder. Vallejo has missed the past five games

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Speaker 1: hurting his knee. But as you pointed out, both of

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Speaker 1: them on the practice field designated to return from i R.

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Speaker 1: We'll see if that's this week or next week at

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Speaker 1: least to get their feet wet before going into the postseason. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I asked someone's earlier and he said, were just wanting

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Speaker 1: to see how they're gonna do this week. I don't.

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Speaker 1: I would think it's more possibly the following week, but

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Speaker 1: I don't know that for sure. All right, Well, we'll

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Speaker 1: keep an eye on that. And always good to have

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Speaker 1: Mike Drecki's ears to the ground, and you know he

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Speaker 1: hears things sometimes a little bit different than anyone else

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Speaker 1: around this these parts. On that note, we will put

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Speaker 1: a lid on this edition of Cardinals Cover two presented

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Speaker 1: by Hunday, proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals. As always,

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Speaker 1: special thanks to our executive producer Jim momahund for Mike Drecky,

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Speaker 1: I'm Greg Riel Lou. We'll talk to you next time

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Speaker 1: here on Cardinals Cover two.