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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. He is Talking Cowboys,

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Speaker 1: Star in Friski Elliot flowing to the goal line, and

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Speaker 1: now your hosts Isaiah Stanback, heck My Harrison, Rob Phillips

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Speaker 1: and Kyle Yeoman's. We are just two shows away from

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Speaker 1: real life football as the regular season is apparently, I

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Speaker 1: mean it is barreling down on the Dallas Cowboys and

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Speaker 1: there is plenty to talk about as we welcome you

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Speaker 1: into a brand new edition of Talking Cowboys presented by Tostitos. Tostitos,

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Speaker 1: the official chip and dip of the Dallas Cowboys from

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Speaker 1: the s WBC Mortgage Studios. We've got our professional football analyst,

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Speaker 1: heck Ma Harrison looking crisp in the white button upe shirt. Today.

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Speaker 1: We've got former Super Bowl champion actually here always going

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Speaker 1: to be a Super Bowl champion, Yeah, always, our residents

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl Champion Isaiah stand Back and Cowboys Inside, Rob

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Speaker 1: Phillips and Kyle Yeoman's. And we've got plenty to preview

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Speaker 1: as the Cowboys and the Buccaneers are on tap next

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Speaker 1: week as Thursday Night football just one week away. How

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Speaker 1: does that sound? This sounds great, fantastic, it does. It

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Speaker 1: sounds like football, real football is coming back. And we've

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Speaker 1: gone through preseason, so no more prognosticatie and all of

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Speaker 1: that stuff. We just got some real stuff to real

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Speaker 1: football to talk about. Pete, Is there a better week

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Speaker 1: than what we're about to be in store for? No

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Speaker 1: college on Saturday? More college games can stay Stafford and

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Speaker 1: Att Yeah, bring it, bring it. I've been September ninth.

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Speaker 1: We can stop the prognosticating. As you said, that's great

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Speaker 1: words you guys keep throwing out there. It's fancy word syllables.

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Speaker 1: A lot of syllables, yea, and too many for me.

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Speaker 1: The best part about it is that it doesn't stop

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Speaker 1: after this week either. I mean it is all the

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Speaker 1: way through the fall. I mean the time of football

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Speaker 1: not being on your television is over. I mean, it

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Speaker 1: is football season, and it is so good. That's nothing

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Speaker 1: better to be back. It really is. Yeah, especially in

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Speaker 1: Texas with high school football college from I mean yeah,

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Speaker 1: I try to. I try to get by with like

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Speaker 1: horse racing in the summertime on TV. I don't have

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Speaker 1: to Why does that work? How does that work? Does

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Speaker 1: that get you through? Is that a fix? Does it

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Speaker 1: a little bit? A little bit? Yeah? Like you anything

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Speaker 1: going on? Yeah? Or not even pick just watch just

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Speaker 1: watch the best too? Baby? Is there not other things

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Speaker 1: Name something baseball ball? Yeah? Okay, not really. Why can't

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Speaker 1: Why can't the NBA stand their season all the way

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Speaker 1: up until it's like, come on like August and let

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Speaker 1: a I feel like we just get thrown off the

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Speaker 1: I'm in purgatory like till now not more. He makes

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Speaker 1: this moment so sweet? Is having football back. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: preview the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and the Cowboys Thursday night football.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna take a look at that Tampa Bay offense,

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Speaker 1: which includes a certain farm animal that you would like

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Speaker 1: to look at. It's called a goat at quarterbacks. Wondering

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Speaker 1: It didn't land. It's okay? Is that today? Or we're

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Speaker 1: gonna talk a little offense, little offense. Now, we do

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Speaker 1: have some news out of Mike McCarthy's press conference that

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Speaker 1: rob good news. Let's start with that. There are a

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Speaker 1: these roster moves they had to make over the next

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Speaker 1: twenty four hours. They just put six guys on IR

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Speaker 1: see Kelvin Joseph start off on injured reserve, But he

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Speaker 1: How's it going. You're on talking Cowboys? Hey, how y'all

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Speaker 1: that either. Um, Jesse was a great story, has a

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Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about that Deep Blue as well. But

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Speaker 1: will Greer before we have to go to break again

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Speaker 1: here in a minute. Signed from the Carolina Waivers, he

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Speaker 1: was with the Panthers for two seasons. Drafted in twenty

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Speaker 1: nineteen in the third round, he was the one hundredth

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Speaker 1: overall pick. And I mean, if you look down the

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Speaker 1: list of the twenty nineteen drafted quarterbacks, fourth best, probably

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Speaker 1: draft class, behind Kyler, Murray, Gardner, Minshew. And there's another

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Speaker 1: guy that I'm forgetting his name, but I mean there's

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Speaker 1: not a whole lot of excitement around what he could

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Speaker 1: be in Dallas. So Rob, I ask you specifically, as

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Speaker 1: you are wearing some Carolina blue today, it is a Cowboys,

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Speaker 1: It's for Jesse's debut today. Okay, there you go. That's good.

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Speaker 1: What can will Greer be and what is he expected

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Speaker 1: to come in and do? Is he going to challenge

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Speaker 1: Cooper Rush for a backup spot or no, maybe eventually.

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Speaker 1: But Mike McCarthy on on the press conference just detailed

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Speaker 1: all the challenges of come in and trying to learn

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Speaker 1: a new offense as you know, well, I mean the

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Speaker 1: you know, the language, learning the protections, all that kind

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Speaker 1: of stuff. So I don't think right off the bat.

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Speaker 1: Moore's scheme and that's why they kept him largely as

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Speaker 1: the number two guy over Garrett Gilbert. So again, though,

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Speaker 1: you know, it helps to have connections in this league,

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Speaker 1: just like any line of work. So he will Greer

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Speaker 1: played under Doug nuss Meyer for two years. That helps,

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Speaker 1: you know, Cooper Rush has been in Kelly Moore's system

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Speaker 1: for a few years. That helps Mike McCarthy sees something

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Speaker 1: clearly in Ben da Nucci that helps to keep him

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Speaker 1: on the practice squad. Brian broad Us always says, you

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Speaker 1: gotta have a sponsor in life, you know, And I

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Speaker 1: don't you know, I don't know if if Garrett Gilbert

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Speaker 1: had like a sponsor, like a guy really backing him

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Speaker 1: in this deal. And I wonder, you know, if he's

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Speaker 1: a little surprised that he's the odd man out here

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Speaker 1: at the end of this thing, not even on the

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Speaker 1: practice squad. Yeah, he's not the odd man out though.

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Speaker 1: I mean he went to me and yeah he landed.

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Speaker 1: But I just I mean, like he knowed it. August twentieth,

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Speaker 1: twenty first, do you think he really felt like, No, absolutely,

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Speaker 1: I'm not even gonna have it. He had bottled this thing. No,

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Speaker 1: he had every I mean, this is what happened with him.

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Speaker 1: He had every opportunity to lose that job. And I

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Speaker 1: think that you know, when you when you're in a

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Speaker 1: position like that where coaches are supporting you, giving you

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Speaker 1: every opportunity, I mean above and beyond what you probably

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Speaker 1: should be given, and you and you find a way

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Speaker 1: to mess it up as soon as somebody else behind

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Speaker 1: you does something positive, they're getting to go ahead because

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Speaker 1: I mean they're pretty much saying, look, bro, I did

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Speaker 1: uh figuratively, So um, that's on him. You know, likely

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Speaker 1: You know, had some good leadership out there. Um. But

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Speaker 1: in terms of this this pick up here, I it's

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Speaker 1: a head scratcher for me. I think everybody kind of

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Speaker 1: knows where I was, where I was hoping to go,

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Speaker 1: that that challenge was going to be handed to anybody

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Speaker 1: who wants to come in here. In terms of trying

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Speaker 1: to learn a new system, it sucks. Some are easier

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Speaker 1: than others. I don't know how how how difficult it

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Speaker 1: is to learn this system. I don't know the language.

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Speaker 1: But I don't know what they see in him. I

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Speaker 1: don't know. I haven't seen enough of him to have

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Speaker 1: a real opinion on that. I just felt like there

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Speaker 1: I would have liked to go again. Personally, I almost

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Speaker 1: in our text group, I almost texted mainly for heck,

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Speaker 1: I just guess for a second, I'm not gonna let

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Speaker 1: what I meant. Everybody has their own opinion exactly. That's

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Speaker 1: what we do here. And the thing and the thing

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Speaker 1: because we're in Big twelve country. Seen him play in

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Speaker 1: West Virginia. Don't know a lot about him from the

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Speaker 1: Carolina perspective. When we talked about him last show, Kyle

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Speaker 1: look too good. He was he was the Neucie junior,

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Speaker 1: that's yeah, same year atage. All right, whatever, it's not.

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Speaker 1: How do you want to put them together? I mean,

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Speaker 1: my whole thing is the only reason why we're even

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Speaker 1: from that injury. We are no longer talking about the

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Speaker 1: backup quarterback. I'm not comfortable with talking about it. I

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Speaker 1: don't want to talk about it because I think that

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Speaker 1: number four is the present and the future for what

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Speaker 1: we're doing. And we got seventy five million reasons to

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Speaker 1: support that. But right now we're talking about Will Greer,

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Speaker 1: and we're still talking about Cooper Rush, and we're talking

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Speaker 1: about Billing being the Nucci, being the saving grace if

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Speaker 1: something happens and he's not it, are we well not

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Speaker 1: saving grace, but he's your plan B or C. That

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Speaker 1: they're keeping four quarterbacks in part because we're in this

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Speaker 1: and I said about Gilbert kind of jest. I mean,

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Speaker 1: history with Kellen Moore. I wonder if they hadn't claimed

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Speaker 1: Will Greer, if they weren't in the order we're gonna

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Speaker 1: bring it back, baby, Gilbert would have been on the

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Speaker 1: practice squad. And there's no way that I'm implying that

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Speaker 1: And I thank you, Philip, great Philip. That that is

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Speaker 1: what your chest? Philip? I like that, man, Go Cowboys man.

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Speaker 1: I hope your team win, Philip. Man, that is awesome.

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Speaker 1: in the salary cap era? I don't know that that

637
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 1: that presents a lot of hype in itself, and so

638
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 1: that's an opportunity for the Cowboys, who you know, kind

639
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 1: of sliding under the radar here saying, oh, they haven't

640
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:57,719
Speaker 1: had the chemistry. They haven't had Dak on the field

641
00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:00,720
Speaker 1: with some of his guys. Ceedee, lamb, all those guys

642
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 1: are now trying to get back into the rhythm here

643
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 1: for a couple more days before the game. It's a

644
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 1: nice it's a nice chance to kind of pull the

645
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 1: upset potentially Thursday night. I like that. I'm gonna cling

646
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 1: to that. Pull the upset potentially. It's an opportunity. I

647
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:17,680
Speaker 1: don't know if it's gonna happen. Isaiah's smirking at me.

648
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 1: I don't know if, but I don't know if I

649
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:22,959
Speaker 1: got a question, And I think this is in your wheelhouse.

650
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 1: As far as the receivers for Tampa, I mean, they

651
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 1: have three bona fide and we haven't even talked about Gronkowski.

652
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 1: We hadn't talked about oj how Howard, and we hadn't

653
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 1: talked about playoff Lenny yet. Okay, we hadn't talked about

654
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:38,240
Speaker 1: any of the things that they've done in the offseason

655
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 1: with the running backs or any of that. Man the

656
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 1: matchup itself, when you've had an opportunity to look at

657
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:49,960
Speaker 1: your dvs, talk about Brown, Digs and potentially Kennedy in

658
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 1: the situation, are Jay Lou on this receiving corps specifically

659
00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 1: about our receivers versus their dbs. If if they have

660
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 1: one week spot on their defense, I would feel it

661
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:05,760
Speaker 1: it's their secondary. If there is a week spot on

662
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:12,640
Speaker 1: their defense on their team, every other position they they

663
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:15,200
Speaker 1: they outman us just I'm just gonna call it out.

664
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 1: If they outman us in every other position in this

665
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:22,759
Speaker 1: in this game, even wide receiver, even wide receiver, we

666
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 1: have some really good wide receivers. Their wide receivers are

667
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:28,920
Speaker 1: freaking awesome. They are. And then and I mean, we

668
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:32,240
Speaker 1: have a we have a bona fide number one obviously,

669
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 1: UM and we have a guy that we're saying is

670
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 1: one B that's coming along CD. He did well last year.

671
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 1: I don't know if we can call him a one yet, right.

672
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:42,279
Speaker 1: I think we think he's getting there. I think he's

673
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 1: getting there. They have two ones. Let's just call it

674
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:46,480
Speaker 1: how it is. I don't care if Antonio Brown is

675
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:48,720
Speaker 1: a little bit older. Anybody who lines up against Antonio

676
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:51,239
Speaker 1: Brown knows you better, you better strap up, you better

677
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 1: strap up because he's gonna give you that work. Um.

678
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 1: They got Mike Evans, they got guy one who's who

679
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:58,200
Speaker 1: would dice you up underneath um, and then they have

680
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:02,880
Speaker 1: three proof even tight ends, three proven tight ends. So

681
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:05,400
Speaker 1: when we started talking about our defensive backs, and you know,

682
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 1: you know, I think when you started talking about Israel mcquomwell,

683
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 1: whether or not he was gonna make this roster, I

684
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 1: think week one was on their minds. What happens when

685
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:14,520
Speaker 1: they come out in two tight ends and three wide

686
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 1: receivers split out so it appears as five wide, but

687
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 1: they got Gronkowski and Oj Howard out there, or if

688
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 1: they want to keep one end tight, they bring in

689
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 1: their blocking. They're blocking a tight end and break right

690
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 1: and they lead the rest of the guys out there.

691
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 1: They put Oj Howard and Bronkowski and they wipe those

692
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:30,719
Speaker 1: guys out. They come out in three tight end set.

693
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:32,839
Speaker 1: There's so much that they can do because they're so

694
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 1: deep at every position, and then they're running back stable. Goodness, gracious, Yes,

695
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:39,320
Speaker 1: we have a lot of work to do. Not only

696
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:41,279
Speaker 1: do they line up, do they match up against us

697
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:45,920
Speaker 1: very well? Position wise? They're coaching is freaking awesome. Their coaches,

698
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:48,239
Speaker 1: their coaching is awesome. So as much as it's gonna

699
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:50,239
Speaker 1: be an interpersonal battle in terms of our guys on

700
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:54,920
Speaker 1: the field, our ocs are if dcs, our special teams coordinator,

701
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:57,839
Speaker 1: they are gearing up to have a have a dog

702
00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:00,080
Speaker 1: on three hundred battle out there on that field as well,

703
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 1: because they're gonna be looking across from booth to booth

704
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 1: across the field and they're gonna be having it just

705
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:05,359
Speaker 1: as much of a duel as the guys that are

706
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 1: are strapped up with the helmets are. You know, when

707
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:09,360
Speaker 1: you look at when you look at Tampa, one of

708
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:12,239
Speaker 1: the things that I think is it really familiar is

709
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:15,440
Speaker 1: how close it is to the New England offenses of old,

710
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:18,799
Speaker 1: with the exception being that now Tom is trying to

711
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:22,160
Speaker 1: take the top off of defenses by going along. That's

712
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 1: something that they didn't have in New England, okay, and

713
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:28,239
Speaker 1: now he's getting that leash to do that in this

714
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:30,759
Speaker 1: new offense. And I think that maybe that's the one

715
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 1: thing that we'll have if this defensive line is where

716
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 1: you need it to be to manufacture that pressure, because

717
00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:41,759
Speaker 1: we cannot sit back where we lacked last year was

718
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:45,279
Speaker 1: the ability to create pressure and create turnovers. That was

719
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:47,880
Speaker 1: not our stick last year, but it has to be

720
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:50,359
Speaker 1: and that's what the emphasis has been for dan Quinn

721
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 1: and for me. When you start talking about the positions

722
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:55,840
Speaker 1: and where they are, where we're able to take advantage

723
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:57,879
Speaker 1: of them. I think on defense, when you look at

724
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 1: them in the middle of their offensive line, I think

725
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:04,360
Speaker 1: that the man on the works is the truth that

726
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:07,400
Speaker 1: the tackle it. So, yeah, guys are gonna have their

727
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 1: work cut out for them there. But I think in

728
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:11,759
Speaker 1: the middle of this defense and whether we could catch

729
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 1: him on the edge of or whatnot, that's the kind

730
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 1: of pressure that we have to manufacture if we're gonna win,

731
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 1: if we're gonna even be in this ball. But we're

732
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:20,840
Speaker 1: gonna to match their intensity because isn't their center he

733
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:22,759
Speaker 1: isn't he the one who likes to freaking drug you,

734
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 1: drag you every dog gonna play the games, who will

735
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 1: finish you while the referee blew the whistle with his

736
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 1: back turn, He's gonna try to get you right. He

737
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:31,920
Speaker 1: might get a personal foul, but that's the intensity that

738
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 1: that he tries to initiate on that on the on

739
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 1: the front, on the offensive front. So we're gonna have

740
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:38,400
Speaker 1: to match their intensity. You started talking about some of

741
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:40,799
Speaker 1: our our rookie right, Ohsa, he's gonna have to bring it.

742
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 1: They're gonna eat that. That dude is going to test

743
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 1: him as soon as he stepped on the field, he's

744
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:47,880
Speaker 1: gonna look at him like really really, bohanna, really? All right,

745
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 1: we're gonna see the little young fellaws. We gonna see

746
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 1: what you got, and they're gonna have to tighten up

747
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 1: that loop. Right. You normally go with three loops. You

748
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:57,719
Speaker 1: got that got four loops down right and put the

749
00:37:57,760 --> 00:37:59,839
Speaker 1: thing because they're gonna test you. And they're not only

750
00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:02,760
Speaker 1: gonna touch test your physical ability, but they're gonna test

751
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 1: your your your your will. And that's more so. They

752
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:08,239
Speaker 1: they're gonna try to break your will and you have

753
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:09,719
Speaker 1: to And that's what we're gonna find out. What is

754
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:11,919
Speaker 1: his teammate of this year? Are they gonna punch back?

755
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 1: Are we gonna We're gonna get punched them out? No

756
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:17,319
Speaker 1: doubt about it. Will be punch back. Pe I gotta

757
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 1: ask you like for for Michael Parsons and knowing that

758
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:22,880
Speaker 1: we hadn't seen the way that dan Quinn is going

759
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:25,839
Speaker 1: to use him. We don't know, but we do know

760
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:28,440
Speaker 1: based off of what Mike McCarthy said that he's in

761
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:31,799
Speaker 1: three different meeting rooms each and every week learning new

762
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:33,799
Speaker 1: technique because of the way that they are going to

763
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 1: use him. Can this rookie impact this game from based

764
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 1: off of what you've seen in the preseason against a

765
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:42,360
Speaker 1: team like ten, I was just gonna go there. I

766
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 1: think he's he's and if not, the X factor for

767
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:49,359
Speaker 1: this defense because of all the different things he can

768
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 1: do and has shown he can do um and we

769
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 1: just talked about having to get there with pressure. That

770
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 1: might be the best thing he does right now as

771
00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 1: a as a linebacker. Let him play free here, Yeah,

772
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:02,320
Speaker 1: I mean they sent him on blitzes. And it is interesting,

773
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:04,480
Speaker 1: like we haven't seen everything dan Quinn wants to do.

774
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:06,480
Speaker 1: He hasn't shown everything. I don't know how much of

775
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 1: an advantage that is going into Week one against Tom Brady.

776
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:12,400
Speaker 1: It can't hurt, yeah, to not have shown everything you

777
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:15,320
Speaker 1: want to do. But I think he presents a different

778
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:18,280
Speaker 1: dynamic they didn't have last year in their front seven. Also,

779
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 1: Randy Gregory does too, because yeah, he played last year

780
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:23,799
Speaker 1: and he played pretty well, but he was playing in

781
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 1: the you know, the twenties, thirties snaps. He should be

782
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:30,719
Speaker 1: in the fifties in terms of playing on that right

783
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:33,440
Speaker 1: edge and really giving them some extra pressure. That that's

784
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 1: Those are two key guys they didn't have last year,

785
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:39,480
Speaker 1: in addition to a new scheme, new wrinkles that other

786
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 1: teams haven't seen yet. So we'll see how it works.

787
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 1: The weird part about this matchup is that we've concentrated

788
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:50,359
Speaker 1: on Tom Brady and those receivers. But the strength of

789
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 1: the Tampa Bay Bucks is their defense. They won a

790
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:58,879
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Yeah, with that defense, and we have an

791
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:04,279
Speaker 1: offense that has not been together any in the preseason.

792
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:08,280
Speaker 1: Does that give you pause? Well? I know it does.

793
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:13,000
Speaker 1: So I mean with with in Dominican Sue, with Jason

794
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 1: Pierre Paul, with Lavonte David and Devin White. I mean

795
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:21,680
Speaker 1: there's there's a lot. There's a lot, Yes, yes, Ghost,

796
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:24,320
Speaker 1: there's a lot. There's a lot to try and overcome

797
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 1: offensively your offensive line from what you've seen from years pass.

798
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:34,279
Speaker 1: Do you believe that they can manufacture that great wall

799
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:36,920
Speaker 1: type of performance again for Zeke, because that's what's going

800
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:38,840
Speaker 1: to be important to win this game. I think the

801
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:42,240
Speaker 1: question marks that we have regarding revolving around our offensive

802
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 1: line will be tested. Immediately you started talking about the

803
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 1: position of center, is beyond is ready to take on

804
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 1: the Dominican Sue or Vita Vea? Yeah, you know, we

805
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 1: started talking about guard. You know, are we gonna have

806
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:56,600
Speaker 1: Carnter Williams back? You know, well, Carner be back, and

807
00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:58,360
Speaker 1: if he is back, well, guess what he's gonna be

808
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 1: facing those same two guys at tackle. You know, I

809
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:03,000
Speaker 1: think we're gonna be okay at the tackle position. But

810
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:05,400
Speaker 1: guess what. Those guys were injured. They haven't challenged. They

811
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:07,920
Speaker 1: haven't faced anybody of this caliber, you know, yet and

812
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:09,879
Speaker 1: in a while and in a very long time since

813
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:11,960
Speaker 1: they've been injured. So are they gonna be ready to

814
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 1: handle Barrett? Are they gonna be ready to handle Jpp?

815
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:17,719
Speaker 1: This is what the questions that we're gonna have to

816
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 1: have answer because we are going to be challenged. And

817
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:24,440
Speaker 1: I think the DP, how aside from the scheme of

818
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:27,239
Speaker 1: Tampa based defense, their front seven is what we want

819
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:30,239
Speaker 1: our front seven to be, exactly how we want them.

820
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 1: That they don't have any question marks, and whether or

821
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 1: not they can stop the run not even a question.

822
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:35,719
Speaker 1: You line up and you try to come at Vita

823
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:38,279
Speaker 1: Via and and Dominican sue you you mean, just go

824
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 1: outside right, you have a better chance of kicking JPP

825
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:44,400
Speaker 1: out or kicking out of Barrett. So we want that

826
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 1: same presence. And what do they have at the second

827
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:50,399
Speaker 1: level fast linebackers They running hit David, Yeah, David and White.

828
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:52,440
Speaker 1: They those guys they running hit right. So that's what

829
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:54,719
Speaker 1: we so exactly how they're set up. That's what we're

830
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 1: trying to mimic. So it's gonna be a heck of

831
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:59,440
Speaker 1: a test for our officive line to have been facing

832
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:03,440
Speaker 1: what we're trying to become in camp. Now they're facing

833
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 1: the ultimate, the dog on the level, the highest level

834
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:07,480
Speaker 1: on more to comeback. You know, you go up the

835
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 1: dog on the little thing we face. We're facing the master.

836
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:11,839
Speaker 1: You know, this is exactly what they what you draw

837
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 1: it up to be. But you say that and I

838
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:16,880
Speaker 1: look at my offensive line. Zack Martin is still on

839
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:20,280
Speaker 1: this offensive line the arguably the best guard in football.

840
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 1: That's one side that is Smith. It's still arguably the

841
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 1: best tackle into lootball. Cowboys have some dudes too, absolutely,

842
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:30,880
Speaker 1: we have we have some dogs. We have some dogs

843
00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 1: but collectively, that's what I'm talking about. Collectively. It's it's

844
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:35,759
Speaker 1: kind of like, um, it was, I don't even know

845
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 1: what an example, but there we have some spots that

846
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 1: might have some little scenes. Right if we're trying to

847
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 1: build a dog on wall, maybe we didn't put the

848
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:46,400
Speaker 1: calking in there a little bit, you know, all the

849
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 1: way firm and there's a little little little seat pitch

850
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:49,759
Speaker 1: that we can get there. So what do you do?

851
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 1: You you hit right at that one little spot right

852
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:53,239
Speaker 1: until you poke a dog on a hole. That's what

853
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:55,440
Speaker 1: I feel like they're going to try to exploit within

854
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:57,760
Speaker 1: our team. And when we start talking about our defense

855
00:42:57,800 --> 00:42:59,319
Speaker 1: being able to try to get to Tom Brady, we

856
00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 1: need to find a way for Parsons to get the

857
00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 1: Brady early because we need to build his confidence. We

858
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:05,120
Speaker 1: need to build his confidence. When I play with TB twelve,

859
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:07,320
Speaker 1: I know he hates being uncomfortable back there. He hates it.

860
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:09,360
Speaker 1: If if you get to him, he will get jittery

861
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:11,239
Speaker 1: back there. So we have to find a way to

862
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:12,360
Speaker 1: get to him. We have to find a way to

863
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:14,680
Speaker 1: bottle him up and squeeze that thing in. So Dlaw

864
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:16,839
Speaker 1: Gregory strapped up and we gotta be able to push

865
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:18,440
Speaker 1: the edge. We gotta be able to just funnel this

866
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 1: guy in there and then find a way to mix

867
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 1: things up with stunts and things of that nature. To

868
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 1: let Parsons come in there and fly around like like

869
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:26,920
Speaker 1: dog on Brian Dawkins back in the day. Just come

870
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:29,360
Speaker 1: in there, just x man over the top of the Wolverene.

871
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:31,920
Speaker 1: One thing to keep an eye on. We mentioned the

872
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 1: offensive line for the Cowboys. You mentioned Connor Williams. You know,

873
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:36,880
Speaker 1: maybe he can get back in the next couple of days.

874
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 1: He hasn't practiced in a while at that left guard position.

875
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:43,920
Speaker 1: Loud Collins too, he's not going to practice today, maybe tomorrow.

876
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:48,120
Speaker 1: Either had the stingers the last week of camp and

877
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:50,360
Speaker 1: also the week prior that, some of that next shoulder

878
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:52,920
Speaker 1: stuff gathering him. So they're just being careful with him

879
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:55,959
Speaker 1: right now. I would think he's gonna start in this game.

880
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:57,400
Speaker 1: But it's just something to keep an eye on for

881
00:43:57,440 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 1: this old line as they get into week one against it.

882
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:02,279
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not just hyping them up. I mean

883
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 1: I said, I say is right. You know Tampa Bay's defense,

884
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:07,360
Speaker 1: that front seven does not have a weakness. I was

885
00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:08,799
Speaker 1: trying to think of an analogy like you said, like

886
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:11,399
Speaker 1: maybe a boxer with his guard ups. They're I mean,

887
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:13,239
Speaker 1: they're as good as it gets in this league right now.

888
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 1: Well you expect the World champions too. I mean they

889
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 1: returned all twenty two, right they not only did they there,

890
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:22,719
Speaker 1: I think they're only second team ever to return all

891
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:24,600
Speaker 1: twenty two guys from a Super Bowl year. I want

892
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:26,759
Speaker 1: to say the first. They first in the salary cap area,

893
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 1: got you, okay, So the first team to ever do that.

894
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:31,239
Speaker 1: So not only do they have that continuity and they

895
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 1: know each other, don't they don't have questions on what

896
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 1: they can and can't do. They don't have questions. Heck,

897
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:36,839
Speaker 1: can you do a stunt? I don't know. I feel

898
00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:38,839
Speaker 1: like you can't. Okay, no you can. I know you can.

899
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:40,120
Speaker 1: You did it last year. We did it all the

900
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:41,400
Speaker 1: way to the dog on Super Bowl and got this

901
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:44,319
Speaker 1: jewelry now right with a detachable top. Not only that,

902
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:47,239
Speaker 1: they add it to their team, yeah, they add it.

903
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:49,319
Speaker 1: So not only we having to try to break through

904
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:51,600
Speaker 1: that first line of defense, which is there. They're there

905
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:55,440
Speaker 1: number ones, but they're number twos and freeze in fours.

906
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:57,239
Speaker 1: That's where we have to break through. So I when

907
00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 1: I talk about our tenacity and our will and our wheel,

908
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:01,600
Speaker 1: that is what it's going to be on the line

909
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 1: because they're gonna hit us. We're gonna hit we have

910
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:05,520
Speaker 1: we got dogs too, They're gonna hit us. They're gon

911
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 1: We're waiting who's gonna Who's gonna Who's gonna decided to

912
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 1: take a deep breath first, because if you take a

913
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:14,160
Speaker 1: deep breath against these guys, yeah night. But the thing

914
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:17,480
Speaker 1: about Tampa that's most intriguing to me is that they

915
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 1: only upgraded at one player for all the other guys.

916
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:23,760
Speaker 1: They bought in Tom Brady, and he was the difference

917
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:26,200
Speaker 1: to win the championship. I mean, what a difference a

918
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:30,360
Speaker 1: player can make. Michael Parsons, and I'm relating that to

919
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 1: him and saying, the change from the defense from last

920
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:37,279
Speaker 1: year this year, can that be that one guy that

921
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:39,800
Speaker 1: can spark the change that you need to have the defense?

922
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:42,560
Speaker 1: Because everybody, when we've been talking about this, we hadn't

923
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 1: been saying, oh, Okay, we need a top ten defense.

924
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 1: We've been saying we need a middle of the road defense.

925
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 1: So we're coming from last and we're trying to at

926
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:52,239
Speaker 1: least get the fifteen thirteen. Right, Can Michael Parsons be

927
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:54,880
Speaker 1: the difference maker on this defense to get you to

928
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 1: that level? Or do you think you need more than

929
00:45:57,680 --> 00:45:59,880
Speaker 1: just that rookie to do that. I can tell you this,

930
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:02,319
Speaker 1: you need a top ten defense against this team to

931
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:04,719
Speaker 1: be successful against Tampa Bay. You need every I don't

932
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:05,840
Speaker 1: care if we're gonna be that the rest of the

933
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:08,320
Speaker 1: year against Tampa we need to be a top ten defense.

934
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:11,800
Speaker 1: And I think the success of his defense really rides

935
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:14,960
Speaker 1: on the ability to get Michael Parsons confident and let

936
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 1: him fly around. I think we all saw his personality

937
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:18,600
Speaker 1: on hard knocks, and we've been able to see it

938
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:20,840
Speaker 1: obviously out here in practice. If you get him confident,

939
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:22,840
Speaker 1: and you get him feeling like he's invincible and he

940
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:25,279
Speaker 1: could run around and play like a madman, everybody else

941
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:27,520
Speaker 1: is gonna feed off that energy. And when it does

942
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:29,840
Speaker 1: when you in regards to adding one player, when you

943
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:31,879
Speaker 1: have one guy that's riding like that and it's high

944
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:35,480
Speaker 1: and he's hyped up, and it's contagious. So guess what

945
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:37,360
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, man, I might be getting my

946
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:39,719
Speaker 1: butt kicked by him. Buddy. Oh shoot, okay, I got

947
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:41,799
Speaker 1: hold on me, okay, he's hype. Okay, let's go. Yeah,

948
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:44,120
Speaker 1: let's go against it. And then that everybody starts viping

949
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:45,600
Speaker 1: off that and then guess what, you make a play

950
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:47,399
Speaker 1: and then maybe you force you know, you face TV

951
00:46:47,480 --> 00:46:48,919
Speaker 1: twelve to get the ball out a little bit earlier.

952
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:50,759
Speaker 1: Now it is third and twelve, and now you you

953
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:52,440
Speaker 1: got three and out. Now you're getting everybody up. You

954
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:54,240
Speaker 1: don't need the dog on crowds. So what you're in Tampa,

955
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:56,320
Speaker 1: you got your sideline. Everybody gets hyped, and now that

956
00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:59,080
Speaker 1: transitions to special teams, and now that goes to the offense. Right,

957
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:01,280
Speaker 1: So it does some time to take that one player,

958
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 1: but you have to make sure that he's confident, because

959
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 1: I think if he's discouraged, I think this whole defense

960
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:07,279
Speaker 1: will be discouraged. And that's what I'm saying. I think

961
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:09,759
Speaker 1: it's I think it's contagious. And when you have a

962
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:12,400
Speaker 1: guy that comes with a winning pedigree like Tom Brady

963
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 1: that can take over the locker room immediately, people are

964
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:17,799
Speaker 1: gonna follow that for our defense, as long as we

965
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:22,320
Speaker 1: don't have secondary guys saying I don't hustle on every play.

966
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:25,080
Speaker 1: See I see your whole body language change when you

967
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:27,520
Speaker 1: hear something like that, because as a player, that's just

968
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:30,120
Speaker 1: not acceptable. And so when you have a guy like

969
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 1: Parson that's going sideline the sideline and bolster the wall

970
00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:36,080
Speaker 1: on every play you that's you can't have a guy

971
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:38,759
Speaker 1: that's saying, Oh, I don't if it's not coming my way,

972
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:41,920
Speaker 1: I'm not going yeah. Yeah. And again my concern is

973
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 1: our will. My concern is our will to bounce back,

974
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:50,440
Speaker 1: because I foresee dan Quinn trying to trying to initiate

975
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:54,760
Speaker 1: confidence in this defense by what bringing pressure? Bringing pressure

976
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 1: right and sit back he can't say, but you can't

977
00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 1: sit back right. You got to send him. But guess what,

978
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:01,600
Speaker 1: when you send him, you leave susceptible to a big play.

979
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:03,879
Speaker 1: So when they when they hit that big play, because

980
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:05,720
Speaker 1: it's gonna happen, you just hope it doesn't happen repeatedly

981
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:08,239
Speaker 1: when they hit that big play, what's your response? Yeah,

982
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:10,920
Speaker 1: what is your response? Now? You're gonna get home sometimes

983
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:12,960
Speaker 1: and you're gonna get to TV twelve. Sometimes you're not.

984
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:15,760
Speaker 1: So those times that you don't, how do you respond

985
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:17,920
Speaker 1: the next play? Because he's gonna hustle up to the ball,

986
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:19,600
Speaker 1: he's gonna snap the ball. Again, and guess what, he's

987
00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:21,680
Speaker 1: gonna throw it over your head again, right, or he's

988
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:23,360
Speaker 1: gonna dunk it down low. When those guys gonna h

989
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:25,600
Speaker 1: you're gonna miss a tackle? Are you gonna close your

990
00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:26,840
Speaker 1: eyes and whip on a tackle? And then all of

991
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:28,799
Speaker 1: a sudden they have another first down? How are we

992
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:31,279
Speaker 1: going to respond? That's what I want to see in

993
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:34,040
Speaker 1: regards to this defense and in relation to Dan Quinn.

994
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:39,759
Speaker 1: That's why I referenced Law and Randy earlier because I'm

995
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:41,520
Speaker 1: going way back here, but you were part of one

996
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:44,719
Speaker 1: of those teams oh seven Giants, Oh not? It was

997
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 1: it whenever whenever the Giants beat Brady twice, they had

998
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:51,160
Speaker 1: a front seven that didn't have to blitz too often.

999
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:54,000
Speaker 1: And you know, can the Cowboys do that enough? You know?

1000
00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:56,839
Speaker 1: I mean it's gonna take some blitzing, I'm sure, but

1001
00:48:56,960 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 1: if you can get around him without having a blitz

1002
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:02,239
Speaker 1: and that's perfect scenario. That's what Tampa Bay did. The

1003
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:04,320
Speaker 1: Pat Mahomes and the Super Bowl isn't at the perfect scere.

1004
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:07,719
Speaker 1: That's what you want because with the guys that they

1005
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:10,920
Speaker 1: brought in this offseason at the running back position, you

1006
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 1: don't want to be blitzing because he's just gonna dunk

1007
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:15,480
Speaker 1: it off, just like he used to do with who's

1008
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:17,879
Speaker 1: a running back out there doing the white Yeah? Yeah,

1009
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:20,440
Speaker 1: he's dunke that thing off and a little five yard

1010
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:22,319
Speaker 1: pass turns into a twenty yard run. You don't want

1011
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:24,640
Speaker 1: to blitz against this because he's seen it on I

1012
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:26,960
Speaker 1: guarantee I know him. I've been in meeting rooms with

1013
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:28,839
Speaker 1: that dude for a whole year. He has watched every

1014
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:30,440
Speaker 1: piece of film from dan Quinn from all the way

1015
00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:32,520
Speaker 1: back to Seattle. I can guarantee he's seen everything that

1016
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 1: dan Quinn's had. That is so crazy that you say that,

1017
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:38,080
Speaker 1: because as a if you just think about Tom Brady's

1018
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 1: career and as long as he's been in the NFL,

1019
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:44,200
Speaker 1: how much taste does he have on defensive coordinators and

1020
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:47,319
Speaker 1: head coaches. If he just compiled the data that he has,

1021
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:50,840
Speaker 1: he has enough tape on the whole. There is nothing

1022
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:52,319
Speaker 1: that you could throw at him. And I don't want

1023
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:54,160
Speaker 1: to make him seem like he's bulletproof him. Obviously, you

1024
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:55,880
Speaker 1: know you can get to Tom Bradies. But I have

1025
00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:57,439
Speaker 1: been in the meeting room when when I was playing

1026
00:49:57,440 --> 00:50:00,000
Speaker 1: in New England and we're playing against Rex Ryan right

1027
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:01,799
Speaker 1: in the in the Jets, and Rex Ryan drew up

1028
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:04,040
Speaker 1: whatever the heck he wanted to, So I talked about

1029
00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 1: that green book. You don't say up for the waterboy.

1030
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:09,400
Speaker 1: Rex Ryan used to drop up one defensive lineman, five linebackers,

1031
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:11,640
Speaker 1: five dbs, and he would load it up with seven

1032
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:13,160
Speaker 1: guys on one side. And we used to be in

1033
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:15,600
Speaker 1: the meeting room watching this like, and I'm in my head,

1034
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:17,520
Speaker 1: I'm the young guy on the team and in the

1035
00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:19,680
Speaker 1: quarterback room just trying to understand, Okay, now, how the

1036
00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:21,799
Speaker 1: heck is he gonna block this up? And TV twelve

1037
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 1: would just make it so so simple. He's like, we

1038
00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:27,640
Speaker 1: don't have to know who's playing what position. As long

1039
00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:30,040
Speaker 1: as we're on the same page and we're all thinking

1040
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:33,440
Speaker 1: the same thing, we're successful. So guess what, heck, man,

1041
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:35,680
Speaker 1: I don't care if that you're a dog on defensive linement,

1042
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:38,920
Speaker 1: you're the mike, you're the mic, and we're sitting in

1043
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:40,920
Speaker 1: our protection that way. I don't care which five guys

1044
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:43,279
Speaker 1: come block up those guys over there. So he's seen

1045
00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:45,360
Speaker 1: it all. He's seen it all. And I used to

1046
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:48,360
Speaker 1: sit up there with my brain like, how how he

1047
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:50,879
Speaker 1: just he doesn't have to be amazing. I just need

1048
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:52,920
Speaker 1: to be on the same page with my teammates. Well,

1049
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:54,800
Speaker 1: i'll tell you what we're gonna We're gonna bet a

1050
00:50:54,880 --> 00:51:00,640
Speaker 1: Christmas tree on this game because Isaiah's built it up

1051
00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:02,879
Speaker 1: so well. I already know when we go to picking

1052
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:06,000
Speaker 1: for this game where Isaiah's going. So hey, hey, we

1053
00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:08,640
Speaker 1: put the road out there talking about getting home. Guys,

1054
00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:14,920
Speaker 1: that's our time without Kyle. And look, we're back on tuesdaysday,

1055
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:18,880
Speaker 1: Tuesday forty hour rule before the game. Maybe not Tuesday

1056
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:22,919
Speaker 1: at nine o'clock. And for Isaiah standing back, for Raw

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