WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Sack Party?

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<v Speaker 1>And of the break. We're life from the s WBC

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<v Speaker 1>Mortgage Studios at the start, presented by millerlike the Only

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<v Speaker 1>Beer of the Dallas Cowboys. And today we start talking

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<v Speaker 1>Cowboys versus Colts. We'll get you ready, Brian has his

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<v Speaker 1>updates for us there. I'm good. We'll talk about someone.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna talk about some things regarding that matchup, particularly

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<v Speaker 1>off the Indianapolis offense versus the Dallas defense. Before we

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<v Speaker 1>get to that, though, I did want to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>one transaction that happened yesterday. Cowboys release Terrell Bash him.

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<v Speaker 1>He wasn't active against the Giants, spent a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>this season on injured Was he on injured reserve or

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<v Speaker 1>just out? Yeah, he was on injured reserve. So I

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<v Speaker 1>hadn't really played a ton for them this year. Why now? Why? Why? Why?

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<v Speaker 1>Why make the move now? Well, it sounds like I

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<v Speaker 1>mean they you know, last week was kind of interesting

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<v Speaker 1>because they put Tyck McKinley up from They called him up,

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<v Speaker 1>which you only get three of these, So they called

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<v Speaker 1>him up and then didn't play him. So that was

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<v Speaker 1>kind of weird. And I think it was mainly because

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<v Speaker 1>they're trying to figure out all these guys that were

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<v Speaker 1>sick and do they need him or not, So you

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't waste to call up if you were going to

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<v Speaker 1>keep doing that with him, He's gonna get moved up

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<v Speaker 1>at some point. So McKinley, I think that's the one

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<v Speaker 1>of the reasons there. I mean, the main reason is

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<v Speaker 1>he's not playing that great. I mean, he's not. They

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<v Speaker 1>got so many guys, I mean, how many pass rushers

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<v Speaker 1>do you need? Not even by playing great, he's just

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<v Speaker 1>not playing right, I'm not playing And he's not better

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<v Speaker 1>than you know. I mean, I I think he's comfortable

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<v Speaker 1>to Fowler, but they like Fowler better and he's got

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<v Speaker 1>more production. So but McKinley, I think it's the big reason.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I was gonna say that it was surprising

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<v Speaker 1>to me and when I think back, okay, this happened,

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<v Speaker 1>and then the Tristan Hill situation, and then going back

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<v Speaker 1>to where before the deadline for trading, and when we

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<v Speaker 1>were thinking, okay, who were who were some guys that

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<v Speaker 1>you could possibly use to trade, to form some kind

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<v Speaker 1>of trade to bring somebody in. It just it's just

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<v Speaker 1>interesting to think that you would just get rid of

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<v Speaker 1>two guys that you've talked about even if he wasn't playing.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a guy whose name was mentioned quite a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>You saw some talent and potential there, But to think

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<v Speaker 1>that it was just you know, neither of those two

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<v Speaker 1>guys specifically defensive ends or at the defensive line that

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<v Speaker 1>you were kind of got some use out of them

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<v Speaker 1>and just kind of decided to get rid of them. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I played really well in the preseason. If you remember,

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<v Speaker 1>it was one of those things where you were kind

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<v Speaker 1>of training camp. You were like going him armstrong, those guys.

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<v Speaker 1>You were kind of like, oh, maybe they've got something here.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. Then you start to think about with Sam

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<v Speaker 1>Williams and you know Fowler and all that, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think Nick is dead on right. This was more about

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<v Speaker 1>wanting to see Tack McKinley play. You know. This is

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<v Speaker 1>about like trying to find a way to to you know,

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<v Speaker 1>get him potentially on the field. Dan Quinn has a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of history with him, you know, understands his

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<v Speaker 1>game and you know maybe could help you a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit and some of that that, you know, the combo

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<v Speaker 1>of being a run defender and all so being a

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<v Speaker 1>pass rusher. Uh so. Yeah, and and to Ambar's point too.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, talking to a lot of guys around the

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<v Speaker 1>league during the trading deadline though that Basham's name was

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<v Speaker 1>being thrown out there. That was a name that people like.

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<v Speaker 1>I had a couple of teams say, yeah, you guys

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<v Speaker 1>are kind of moving some guys. I'm like really, and

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<v Speaker 1>Basham was one of the name And they end up

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<v Speaker 1>moving on from guys that were on that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>on that trade deadline that you know, when you talk about,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, with Tristan Hill, they're okay, we move on

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<v Speaker 1>from him, and then Basham, Well, hey we got a guy,

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<v Speaker 1>we like what we're seeing in the guy, and let's

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<v Speaker 1>you know, let's give him a go here. So not

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<v Speaker 1>not surprising in that way. It's three guys. Really, if

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<v Speaker 1>you think about back to the preseason, you're like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>Basham and then Tristan Hill and Ridgeway. I mean, Bashway

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<v Speaker 1>it was a guy that they thought, oh he was

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<v Speaker 1>gonna make it, you know, but but Bohanna played better.

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<v Speaker 1>This is other guys has played better. And Sam Williams

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<v Speaker 1>is development is a big part of this too. They

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<v Speaker 1>might have made a mistake on Ridgeway because starting any well, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm playing Overyeah was playing over there. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>make it tackles. See, that's the thing that plays in Arkansas.

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<v Speaker 1>They were keeping the keeping the wide receivers, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they kept that wide receiver room kind of intact. And

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<v Speaker 1>then you know, they went they kept all those guys,

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<v Speaker 1>and then all of a sudden, you're like, well, these

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<v Speaker 1>guys are playing just okay, you know. And and so

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<v Speaker 1>then you sacrifice a defensive tackle that you know that

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<v Speaker 1>you know when you're struggling against the run and not

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<v Speaker 1>all of it is inside, but you're maybe a guy

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<v Speaker 1>that down the line, you know, and Nick, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>covers Arkansas loves Arkansas. I've seen a guy play a bunch.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean he was a he was a kind of

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<v Speaker 1>a difference maker as a big guy in there. And

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<v Speaker 1>you're kind of like thinking, well, why you get rid

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<v Speaker 1>of an offensive defensive lineman and then they go off

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<v Speaker 1>and play and then you're looking at your wide receiver

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<v Speaker 1>situation and go, well, you just could have very easily

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<v Speaker 1>moved on from you know, one of these guys Hill

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<v Speaker 1>if you're going to cut him eventually, I mean, just

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<v Speaker 1>let him go. I think I think they got caught

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<v Speaker 1>in a situation where if they were to do that over, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they wouldn't put it put Ridgeway out there. They just

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't have done well. It goes to what you were

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<v Speaker 1>talking about yesterday. Coaches tend to like what they know, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And so you get in a situation like that where

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<v Speaker 1>you're kind of debating Tristan Hill a Ridgeway and they're

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<v Speaker 1>probably like, yeah, you know, I think we want to

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<v Speaker 1>give Tristni a little bit more of an opportunity. We

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<v Speaker 1>think we might have something well see. And also, I

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<v Speaker 1>talked to some teams last night. I think Basham is

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<v Speaker 1>going to get claimed, just from listening to some teams.

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<v Speaker 1>Some of the guys that I talked to around the league,

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<v Speaker 1>they're like, well, what did you know? Is he a

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<v Speaker 1>bad guy? I'm like, no, no, no training camp everything.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, they were asking me my opinion on him,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, they'd studied the tape on him. So

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<v Speaker 1>I have a feeling today that you guys will probably

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<v Speaker 1>write a little blip that he got claimed by somebody.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, listen to what talking to guys from last night.

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<v Speaker 1>There are obviously a few ahead. Then for one more thing,

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<v Speaker 1>I said that about Tych McKinley, and I do believe

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<v Speaker 1>McKinley's going to play, but they could still elevate him

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of times. His roster spot they have fifty two.

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<v Speaker 1>That roster spot, by Baschlor may not go to McKinley.

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<v Speaker 1>It could go to James Washington, who because he's not

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<v Speaker 1>on the practice squad, you could just move him over

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<v Speaker 1>if they decide to do that. They have to do

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<v Speaker 1>that today, and if that's what they're gonna do, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>they could. So it is today a deadline, No, No,

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<v Speaker 1>I just think that they've talked about it. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>Jerry's Washington, James Washington. Yes, but they're going to activate

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<v Speaker 1>the twenty one day window practice right he could play

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<v Speaker 1>if yeah, he want him to. So I'm just saying

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<v Speaker 1>McKinley may not be the fifty third right now, but

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<v Speaker 1>him playing and getting on the field with reps, it's

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<v Speaker 1>probably you know, this whole thing with Odell Beckham and Washington.

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<v Speaker 1>I really do believe that they were tied together because

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't think they wanted to make two moves for

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<v Speaker 1>wide receivers. I just really didn't. And maybe it's one

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<v Speaker 1>of those things where they're preparing themselves for getting him

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<v Speaker 1>practice time and getting him ready and get him acclimated

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<v Speaker 1>again in like, Okay, if the Beckham thing doesn't work out,

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<v Speaker 1>then we'll plug him in. But I was talking to

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<v Speaker 1>somebody in the team and they're like, they're really not connected.

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<v Speaker 1>But I just don't. I just you know, making two

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<v Speaker 1>moves at wide receiver, you know, to add Beckham and

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<v Speaker 1>then to have to add Washington, you know. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you're like, I just didn't think they wanted to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, a veteran receiver that don't play special teams

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<v Speaker 1>d you need? Yeah, I mean, yeah, one's really dynamic obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'd be ready yet that that's the whole thing

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<v Speaker 1>is about it. What's the knee looking? There's there's teams,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, there's people around the league that I'm

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<v Speaker 1>talking to again last night that believe that Beckham's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>end up in Buffalo. There's people saying that that that

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<v Speaker 1>they feel like that he could very well end up

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<v Speaker 1>in Buffalo. I guess that's the last of the last

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<v Speaker 1>things that at a guy tell me, I'd a guy

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<v Speaker 1>tell me. He said, listen, you think he wants to

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<v Speaker 1>go to New York and play on that turf? He

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<v Speaker 1>was he was. He was complaining about the turf. The

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<v Speaker 1>Giants lost, somebody lost, the receiver lost, a player on

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<v Speaker 1>the turf got all messed up, and you're like, the

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<v Speaker 1>guy goes. You think he wants to go play on

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<v Speaker 1>that turf after he's complaining about it, Well, well he's

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<v Speaker 1>but he But the thing about it is they're saying,

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<v Speaker 1>because Buffalo's, Buffalo's medical staff might just clear him, and

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<v Speaker 1>and maybe that you'll get others will be like, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>Dallas would be a little bit more, little bit more, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>the knees not really this And I mean, nobody's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>know this because we talked about this yesterday. You could

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<v Speaker 1>bring him in and all that. But I had people

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<v Speaker 1>tell me, you know, is he going to work out

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<v Speaker 1>for you? Is he going to go out on the

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<v Speaker 1>field and physically work out for you? That's how you

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<v Speaker 1>would tell you could pull on and push on the

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<v Speaker 1>knee and all that. But the guy told me around

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<v Speaker 1>in the league, he says, when is a veteran player

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<v Speaker 1>ever gone in and worked out for somebody like that? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, but I don't know that that's necessarily a

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<v Speaker 1>precursor here, Like, yeah, I honestly, the way I look

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<v Speaker 1>at this as much as we've heard Jerry talk about

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that they are definitely in this question they

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<v Speaker 1>want him. Yeah, I don't know that that would be

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<v Speaker 1>the thing that stopped them from saying, like I think

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<v Speaker 1>they want their medical staff obviously to look at it. Absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know that getting him to do a workout

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<v Speaker 1>is necessarily a precursor. And quite frankly, the way I

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<v Speaker 1>look at it is, yeah, there's a chance he goes

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<v Speaker 1>to Buffalo. I mean, obviously he's gonna go to Buffalo

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<v Speaker 1>before he comes to Dallas. But also I'm hearing from

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people and Michael Irvan this morning talking

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<v Speaker 1>on Sean and RJ on one on five out three

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<v Speaker 1>the Fan, and he was like, Hey, I know, Olddel,

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<v Speaker 1>I've talked to him, I've talked this shortly. He has

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<v Speaker 1>always wanted to play in Dallas. That has been something

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<v Speaker 1>he's always wanted to do because of the fact he's

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<v Speaker 1>got family here and he's just always wanted to play

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<v Speaker 1>for this team. So there's there's a lot of factors here.

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<v Speaker 1>And no, there's no question. I mean I'm on the

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<v Speaker 1>seventy five percent train of him being here and then

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<v Speaker 1>but the more you talk to people around the league.

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<v Speaker 1>There's doubt, there's there's there's creative doubting. But here's the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>The way I look at it is I always look

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<v Speaker 1>at it like, who's gonna be doing the selling. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know who's doing the selling in Buffalo. I know

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<v Speaker 1>the guy doing the selling here. He's probably one of

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<v Speaker 1>the best sellers and I've ever met. So I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>bet on the fact that if it comes down to

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<v Speaker 1>selling and if he really wants him, yeah, if he

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<v Speaker 1>really wants him, I don't think there's I think he'll

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<v Speaker 1>probably end up on Can I ask you a question?

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<v Speaker 1>This might be unfair to you. Then, since you've taken

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<v Speaker 1>that approach, do you worry about Jerry over right? Do

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<v Speaker 1>you do? You do you worry about the situation where

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<v Speaker 1>if Jerry wants the guy, he gets the guy. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you think he gets any interference from Stephen on this one?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think so. Okay, I don't think so. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I think I think at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 1>I know it's probably an unfair question. I think, honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>I think and I know there's a lot of talk

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<v Speaker 1>about Jerry Steven that hole, that nature let's be honest.

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<v Speaker 1>At the end of the day, if Jerry really wants something,

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<v Speaker 1>I totally agree. I don't care who in the building,

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<v Speaker 1>including Steven, that doesn't want it. Jerry is still in

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<v Speaker 1>the position where he is the final safe. Absolutely. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and let's let's not forget that that that's a good thing.

0:10:26.720 --> 0:10:29.559
<v Speaker 1>I mean, like like him. Everyone knows the story pushed

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<v Speaker 1>him up against the wall against you know, with Deon

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<v Speaker 1>and is this a smart move and all this kind

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<v Speaker 1>of stuff. But I mean, you know, you don't have

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<v Speaker 1>Zach Martin and you have and you have Johnny Manzel.

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<v Speaker 1>If somebody doesn't stand up to Jerry to Jerry sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>and go, this isn't the best move for us. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's not the worst thing in the world to have

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<v Speaker 1>a guy that says, all right, let's think about this

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<v Speaker 1>long term, you know. And they still got yeah, well

0:10:50.280 --> 0:10:52.760
<v Speaker 1>they got Deon, but but but yeah, you might do

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<v Speaker 1>whatever it takes to get Odell Beckham. And then and

0:10:55.080 --> 0:10:57.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, March comes and you're like, dang, we lost Pollard,

0:10:57.679 --> 0:10:59.439
<v Speaker 1>we lost this guy. We lost this guy. Will we

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<v Speaker 1>home the money? But you got Odell, who we played

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<v Speaker 1>two games for me and limped around for a little bit,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. I mean, like he somebody has to think

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<v Speaker 1>about next year, and I know everyone's just focused all in,

0:11:10.880 --> 0:11:13.080
<v Speaker 1>but that's that's not the way it works. Ask you

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<v Speaker 1>guys something. And since we don't know what's going to happen,

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<v Speaker 1>and we've seen it before, we're like Earl Thomas, we

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<v Speaker 1>talked about him since forever and ever actually happened. We

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<v Speaker 1>know this is something very well well different fact. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but um in an instance that it does not happen

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<v Speaker 1>for whatever reason. Uh, Based on what you've seen so

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<v Speaker 1>far since Dak's return and how the offense has been operating,

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<v Speaker 1>do you guys currently feel that this offense, specifically talking

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<v Speaker 1>about the wide receiver position, is this offense enough to

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<v Speaker 1>be competitive to that level without the need of adding

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<v Speaker 1>extra talent at the white receiver? Has your mind changed

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<v Speaker 1>whatsoever so far? Remember that question we had yesterday about

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<v Speaker 1>who would you who's going to help you more? Tyrann

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<v Speaker 1>Smith or Odell Beckham. Yeah, See that's the thing I

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<v Speaker 1>look at To answer your question. I just focus back

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<v Speaker 1>to the Green Bay game in that fourth and three

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<v Speaker 1>and I just know this guy can go and make plays.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, can he make two three of those a

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<v Speaker 1>game that that might be all you need. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>that might be all you need. He might have five targets.

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<v Speaker 1>Nick went through the targets with you yesterday. It seemed

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<v Speaker 1>like it was eleven and it was five. It was three,

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<v Speaker 1>it was five, it was seven. It was kind of

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<v Speaker 1>if I know that five times, I'm gonna throw them

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<v Speaker 1>the ball and he's gonna probably catch the ball all

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<v Speaker 1>five times. I have a feeling they're gonna be big, big,

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<v Speaker 1>big plays. I do. I just feel like third down,

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<v Speaker 1>four downs, you know the way that this coach goes

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<v Speaker 1>for it, you know, throw it at this guy separates

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<v Speaker 1>in the red zone. You know you could throw the

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<v Speaker 1>ball to him down there. He's gonna make somebody miss.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm the guy that is. I'm about pushing the

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<v Speaker 1>chips now, and I think the owner is too. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think the owner. And that's why I asked Derek

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<v Speaker 1>that question, because I think the owner will tell Stevens like, listen,

0:13:00.360 --> 0:13:03.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm eighty years old. Have you've seen what's going on

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<v Speaker 1>in this conference? Right now? Brady ain't worth a damn

0:13:06.360 --> 0:13:08.640
<v Speaker 1>right now, Rogers ain't even part of this thing. We

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<v Speaker 1>gotta go beat San Francisco or Philadelphia who we almost

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<v Speaker 1>beat with a backup quarterback and three turnovers. Yeah, everything. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta give me this one last shot here. You

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<v Speaker 1>figure this thing out. If like Nick told you, which

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<v Speaker 1>was great information yesterday, if you have Beckham contract, you

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<v Speaker 1>gotta think about CD contract two. Yeah, that's great information

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<v Speaker 1>right there. You know you're I'm sure I'm looking to

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<v Speaker 1>see him like you figure it out. You figure it out.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm eighty damn years old. You know I might not

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<v Speaker 1>have another run at this again. You know, you figure

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<v Speaker 1>this out. And I think the thing about it too,

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<v Speaker 1>is you this um kind of lost my thought. I

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<v Speaker 1>was just gonna let me, let me just jump in then,

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<v Speaker 1>because I think Will McClay has the factor into this

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<v Speaker 1>as well. And not and and project Okay is uh,

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<v Speaker 1>how old is Odell? I don't even thirty years old? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so thirty one two thirty three year old Odell Beckham?

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<v Speaker 1>You know if he wants to four year deal? Yeah right,

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<v Speaker 1>that's my story because I want the player right now.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think it's it's important though, to have to

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<v Speaker 1>look at what he's going to do next year, the

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<v Speaker 1>year after. I mean, this is an investment this is

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<v Speaker 1>what you you know, I kind of compared to the

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<v Speaker 1>Dion Sanders thing. He's played seven eight years. But we're

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<v Speaker 1>doing this for that last half of his career, the

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<v Speaker 1>last few years, last big contract for him. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>just about these few games. Does he fit into what

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<v Speaker 1>you're trying to do for the next couple of years. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think I think that's what they have to figure out.

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<v Speaker 1>I will throw us out. I just remember what else.

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<v Speaker 1>Trying to say that, I still believe I'm being cautiously

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<v Speaker 1>optimistic because that we talked about this weeks ago, and

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<v Speaker 1>I said at the time, I was one of people

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<v Speaker 1>are like, I don't know about this kind of signing

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<v Speaker 1>because what I still don't know is is he Odell

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<v Speaker 1>Beckham Junior that I'm used to sing, We don't know that.

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<v Speaker 1>And so if he is. If he is, this will

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<v Speaker 1>be a signing that could definitely put them over the top.

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<v Speaker 1>To answer your question, this is the kind of signing

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<v Speaker 1>that you get guy like this. I guarantee you it

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<v Speaker 1>can pay dividends if he is the Odell Beckham that

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<v Speaker 1>he was, because it certainly did for the Rams in

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<v Speaker 1>that Super Bowl. He was having a game before he

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<v Speaker 1>was a. Yeah, he was having a game, and so

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<v Speaker 1>you put you had that kind of player to what

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<v Speaker 1>you already have. Now I look at this offense and say, man,

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<v Speaker 1>is the offense as good as the defense? Maybe they

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<v Speaker 1>are right, and that's where you're really working with something,

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<v Speaker 1>and you can contend with the teams like Philadelphia, like

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<v Speaker 1>San Francisco, like the Chiefs, like the Bills, like you

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<v Speaker 1>have that level of talent where you can compete with

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<v Speaker 1>all those teams and don't feel in any way that

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<v Speaker 1>you're compromised. I think he can provide that kind of

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<v Speaker 1>value for you if he is Oldell Beckham that he

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<v Speaker 1>was before. Remember when we were waiting for Dak's return

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<v Speaker 1>and the thumb and you asked the question about like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>is ninety percent Dak better than what you got it

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<v Speaker 1>with a Cooper Rush and what he was doing at

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<v Speaker 1>the time. So same question, what would be the least

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<v Speaker 1>I'm on a percentage that you would take an Odell

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<v Speaker 1>beck You're not supposed to ask question. Those are my question.

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<v Speaker 1>Now that's from my games. What do you do? I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna use that on the radio. By the way, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna use that on the radio. I'm gonna steal if

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<v Speaker 1>I'll give you credit, there a g I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if you give me, you give him firt of all,

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<v Speaker 1>Let's think about it like this, he's gonna be if

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<v Speaker 1>if you think he's gonna be your third wide receiver.

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<v Speaker 1>We talked about that yesterday where he falls on the

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<v Speaker 1>depth chart, Let's say he's at least your third wide receiver.

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<v Speaker 1>I do think in eighty percent, Odell Beckham Junior is

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<v Speaker 1>probably better than Noel Brown, Right, so he adds value

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<v Speaker 1>to you at eighty percent, maybe seventy five percent. I

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<v Speaker 1>was going, I was going around sixty five. Ye at

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<v Speaker 1>sixty five, I am just because I feel like though

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<v Speaker 1>there could be those two or three players a game,

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<v Speaker 1>there could be that you know, it's it's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they run the ball and run the ball. Oh wait,

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<v Speaker 1>it's now it's third and six, you know, and now

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<v Speaker 1>you need Okay, he's gonna shake somebody for a gain

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<v Speaker 1>of eight or shake somebody for ten, you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>then you're gonna keep playing the game, keep playing the game,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you know they're gonna get down the goal

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<v Speaker 1>line and it's gonna it's gonna be like it was

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<v Speaker 1>like in the other day third and fifteen, they have

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<v Speaker 1>to throw a clutch pass to Dalton Schultz to convert.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm thinking, and you got a guy like Beckham, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's maybe sixty five percent, you know, catches that ball

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<v Speaker 1>beat somebody, you know, get separation a little bit easier throw.

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<v Speaker 1>That's kind of what I'm thinking about, you know what.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's kind of I think it's a great question.

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<v Speaker 1>But I also think in a way it's irrelevant because

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<v Speaker 1>it Odell's gonna want one hundred percent of the money,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, so if it takes it where you want

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<v Speaker 1>to go, which is true super Bowl's And that's why

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<v Speaker 1>I came back to what I said about the next

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<v Speaker 1>year and the next year, like if you think, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll see what he can do. Can he help you

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit a couple of plays a game like that,

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<v Speaker 1>but then the next year, like you've got a really

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<v Speaker 1>dynamic Yeah, That's That's where I'm at. Though. Two to me,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm willing to if as a fan, I would be

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<v Speaker 1>willing for them to try. You know, if you if

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<v Speaker 1>you just try for me, you know, and if it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't work out, I can't blame you. You tried, you know,

0:18:02.880 --> 0:18:04.960
<v Speaker 1>as a fan, you're like that, you can't call into

0:18:05.280 --> 0:18:08.280
<v Speaker 1>our show here one oh five three and yell and say, oh,

0:18:08.320 --> 0:18:10.320
<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys sucked it, don't do you know? No, you

0:18:10.359 --> 0:18:12.760
<v Speaker 1>can't because they tried. I can't. I can do a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit, though. If you pay him really good money

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<v Speaker 1>to come in at the end of the season and

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<v Speaker 1>do this and then we'll see what happens in the

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<v Speaker 1>next couple of years, then you should have kept up

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<v Speaker 1>Mary Cooper. That's what I view. You should have kept

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<v Speaker 1>a Marie Cooper if that's what you want, because I

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<v Speaker 1>think a Marie Cooper is probably better than Odell Beckham, right, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>But my issue with that is that I don't think

0:18:30.560 --> 0:18:33.080
<v Speaker 1>they got rid of they got rid of a Mark Cooper.

0:18:33.160 --> 0:18:35.879
<v Speaker 1>I think because they just didn't want him on this team,

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<v Speaker 1>and that wasn't necessarily about and I didn't have a

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<v Speaker 1>problem with them making that move. The problem I had

0:18:41.040 --> 0:18:43.080
<v Speaker 1>was they didn't go in and get me more talent.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're saying this particular guy doesn't fit our culture,

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<v Speaker 1>he doesn't fit what we're trying to do, right, Okay, Fine,

0:18:49.520 --> 0:18:53.000
<v Speaker 1>that's that's your choice. But don't just assume that I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to leave that back, and then I need you

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<v Speaker 1>to explain that. I mean, I just if that's the case,

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<v Speaker 1>then explain what he doesn't do for your culture. He's

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<v Speaker 1>a quiet guy that that doesn't really rufle feathers. He

0:19:02.800 --> 0:19:04.960
<v Speaker 1>wanted to take a pay cut, he gets open, he's

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<v Speaker 1>a good route runner. I mean what I'm sorry, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't, Well, we know the elephant in the room

0:19:09.800 --> 0:19:12.120
<v Speaker 1>that you can start with, but I mean, maybe it's

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<v Speaker 1>all those things. Point is, they're not the general manager.

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<v Speaker 1>They're not gonna They're not gonna come out and say that.

0:19:16.520 --> 0:19:18.080
<v Speaker 1>But but the point is, the point is I do

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<v Speaker 1>what are you really saying, verb run, I took a

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<v Speaker 1>page out of your book. Point is, they're not They're not.

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<v Speaker 1>They're not. They didn't go out and spend the money

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<v Speaker 1>that they saved. If you're gonna save that money because

0:19:29.720 --> 0:19:31.679
<v Speaker 1>you just didn't think he was the fit, then go

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<v Speaker 1>out and spend the money and get a replacement, because

0:19:34.200 --> 0:19:36.520
<v Speaker 1>we see they are clearly in the work for a

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<v Speaker 1>wide receiver. But they will tell you that they got

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<v Speaker 1>better on defense because they got rid of him. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they will tell you because we get we were able

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<v Speaker 1>to sign him and the Randy Gregory and all that.

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<v Speaker 1>They will tell you, they will be quick to tell

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<v Speaker 1>you that the money we saved on all this, we

0:19:49.480 --> 0:19:52.560
<v Speaker 1>we we got better because they're helping. I mean, and

0:19:52.800 --> 0:19:57.359
<v Speaker 1>Hooker and uh Fowler and Armstrong and and you know,

0:19:57.440 --> 0:20:00.399
<v Speaker 1>James Washington not so much, but I mean, but those guys,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, yeah, that season would have been lost had

0:20:03.560 --> 0:20:06.440
<v Speaker 1>they not been the way that they have been on defense,

0:20:06.520 --> 0:20:09.320
<v Speaker 1>especially when you had Cooper Rush. And Cooper Rush did

0:20:09.320 --> 0:20:12.320
<v Speaker 1>a nice job. But man, I don't even want to

0:20:12.359 --> 0:20:14.600
<v Speaker 1>think of how many games we would have lost. You'd

0:20:14.640 --> 0:20:17.240
<v Speaker 1>look like the Packers. You'd be like the Packers defense.

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<v Speaker 1>by Blockchain Doctor being there. We go, all right, so

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<v Speaker 1>Derek had to step out and for the rest of

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<v Speaker 1>get now into the Indianapolis offense versus the Dallas defense.

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<v Speaker 1>So Brian take it away. Derek's first question has always

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<v Speaker 1>what do they do best? What do they do worse?

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<v Speaker 1>I think, you know, they've got a really legitimate weapon,

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<v Speaker 1>and with their running back with Jonathan Taylor, that's something

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<v Speaker 1>that you know, they don't score a lot of points.

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<v Speaker 1>They haven't. They've struggled on their offensive side of the ball.

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<v Speaker 1>The one thing that they can do is they will

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<v Speaker 1>they will run the football with this guy, and so

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<v Speaker 1>you have to be ready for it, you know. And

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<v Speaker 1>with Jonathan Taylor, it's it's inside, it's outside, it's inside, bounce,

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<v Speaker 1>it's you know, he's a he's a he's a physical runner.

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<v Speaker 1>He's not the tallest guy, you know, it's not one

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<v Speaker 1>of these you know, big, but he's really thick and

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<v Speaker 1>he's powerful. And what happens to you is if you

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<v Speaker 1>don't get a good shot on him or get bodies

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<v Speaker 1>to them. He will break tackles and continue on. I've

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<v Speaker 1>seen several games this year where he's just carried the

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<v Speaker 1>pile going forward, you know, for extra yards and stuff

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<v Speaker 1>like that. So if you kind of go up and

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<v Speaker 1>halfheartedly try and tackle him, wrap him up, he'll break

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<v Speaker 1>that tackle and then he'll find a way to continue

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<v Speaker 1>on and get yards. There's been some struggle the offensive

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<v Speaker 1>line at times. I mean I watched the Philadelphia game.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I've watched the games that they played with

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<v Speaker 1>Jeff Saturday as the coach, because that's a different offensive

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<v Speaker 1>coordinator now with what they've done in the past, but

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<v Speaker 1>you still have the thread of him running the football,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, that's something I think you're going to

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<v Speaker 1>have to deal with with them. Matt Ryan being the quarterback,

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<v Speaker 1>they've gone back to him that Sam Ellinger, he got

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<v Speaker 1>the opportunity and then you know, when Saturday took the job,

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<v Speaker 1>he said, no, we're going to play with you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Matt Ryan gives us the best opportunity to win. The

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<v Speaker 1>ball is going to come out really really quick. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the whole idea. Matt Ryan does not want to

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<v Speaker 1>hold the football, so everybody with the Cowboys in the secondary,

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to be about routes, quick routes, the tight end,

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<v Speaker 1>the drag routes, things like that. Underneath most of his

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<v Speaker 1>throws out of the way or to the right. It's

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<v Speaker 1>either middle to right the game. I mean, it just

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<v Speaker 1>seems like that's where he's the most comfortable throw in

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<v Speaker 1>the football. So we'll see what happens in this game.

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<v Speaker 1>I like Michael Pittman. He's a big, tall, lanky receiver,

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<v Speaker 1>likes to run those inside routes. Alec Pierce is another

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<v Speaker 1>guy that they drafted from Cincinnati. I liked him coming

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<v Speaker 1>out of the draft. Super tough kid in the way

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<v Speaker 1>he plays. And then they get Paris Campbell involved too.

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<v Speaker 1>I could say, a lot of routes to the right,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of routes in the middle of the field.

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<v Speaker 1>Jilannie Woods, they're tight end. Had a really nice game.

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<v Speaker 1>If you watched the Monday night game, you saw him,

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<v Speaker 1>So he had a little bit, Yeah, he had a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of a reassurgence of you know what he

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<v Speaker 1>was able to do. He was a really good college player.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, Quintin Nelson up front at guard is comparable

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<v Speaker 1>to what you have with Zach Martin. So yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a team that you kind of go. Man. Their records

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<v Speaker 1>shouldn't be this bad, but they struggle to score points.

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<v Speaker 1>And but you have to me personally, I would try

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<v Speaker 1>and take Pittman out of this game and then commit

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<v Speaker 1>everything to trying to stop Jonathan Taylor from running the ball.

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<v Speaker 1>Is what I would do. When you have a guy

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<v Speaker 1>like Matt Ryan, and I think the Cowboys have had

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<v Speaker 1>success with quarterbacks that don't really run a lot. But

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<v Speaker 1>when the ball gets out quick, where do you think

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<v Speaker 1>Michael Parsons can be the most effective in that? I

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<v Speaker 1>would rush him, like I would say, you know, if

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<v Speaker 1>you rush him off, the would be the Cowboys right

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<v Speaker 1>side because the ball is going everything I would want

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<v Speaker 1>I want if I was the Cowboys, and this would

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<v Speaker 1>be my plan of attack. I want Matt Ryan seeing

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<v Speaker 1>Michael Parsons rushing and feel that. And so to me,

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<v Speaker 1>if you put him on the side where if you

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<v Speaker 1>put him to what would be Matt Ryan's right, which

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<v Speaker 1>would be defensive left. Because the games I was watching

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<v Speaker 1>three games I was watching, the ball was like I say,

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<v Speaker 1>it was middle right, middle right, middle right the whole game,

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<v Speaker 1>and so to me, if you rush him where he

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<v Speaker 1>where that pressure, where he's throwing, the direction he's throwing,

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<v Speaker 1>the chances for tip passes because the ball gets out

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<v Speaker 1>of his hand quick. It's when people make him hold

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<v Speaker 1>that that's where you see the sacks. That's where you

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<v Speaker 1>see So to me, it's not on the back side.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's not on the back side, even though

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<v Speaker 1>they've got a rookie left tackle, you know, with a

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<v Speaker 1>Raymond on the Raymond on the back side there, I

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<v Speaker 1>kind of feel like that they will put him to

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<v Speaker 1>the where the side that Ryan's throwing the ball, so

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<v Speaker 1>he can he sees him, but he could also he

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<v Speaker 1>feels and if you could get him to hold it.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I said, that's where you're going to get that sack.

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<v Speaker 1>So the team they've allowed more sacks than any other teams. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>total of like forty three. And my question would be

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<v Speaker 1>going back to Nack as seeing up on Michael Parson.

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<v Speaker 1>Is this where you guys would focus on just pressuring

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<v Speaker 1>and attacking the quarterback or do you kind of find

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<v Speaker 1>a way to split and drive some of that attention

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<v Speaker 1>on stopping the run. Yeah, I would if I'm the Cowboys,

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<v Speaker 1>I would worry about because they're going to try and

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<v Speaker 1>protect Matt Ryan from not getting sacked. And to do that,

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<v Speaker 1>it's about staying ahead of the chains. It's about like

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<v Speaker 1>what the you know, with the almost what like the

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<v Speaker 1>teams that have played the Cowboys, they don't want the

0:28:08.560 --> 0:28:12.480
<v Speaker 1>Cowboys to like the Packers. The Cowboys didn't as the

0:28:12.520 --> 0:28:16.400
<v Speaker 1>Packers didn't want the Cowboys to put them in second

0:28:16.400 --> 0:28:19.680
<v Speaker 1>and long, third and long all day. They're like, listen,

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<v Speaker 1>let's play ahead of the chains. Let's make it second

0:28:21.720 --> 0:28:24.680
<v Speaker 1>and four, second and three. You know they're gonna try.

0:28:24.760 --> 0:28:27.040
<v Speaker 1>I say, if I'm the Colts, I try and run

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<v Speaker 1>the ball first and say, Okay, I'm gonna try and

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<v Speaker 1>stay ahead, stay on schedule, and then that way maybe

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<v Speaker 1>the pass rush won't be attacking won't be you know,

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<v Speaker 1>because if you if they have like to say, the

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<v Speaker 1>Minnesota game plan where they just come out and say

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<v Speaker 1>we're just gonna throw, We're just gonna keep throwing, you

0:28:44.040 --> 0:28:46.240
<v Speaker 1>know that that could be like you're just talking about

0:28:46.280 --> 0:28:48.840
<v Speaker 1>all those sacks. You know, just it's funny when you

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<v Speaker 1>watch the sacks. When Ryan he will he'll hold it

0:28:51.880 --> 0:28:54.960
<v Speaker 1>and you know when he holds it, there's probably gonna

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<v Speaker 1>get sacked because he's it's like he holds it and

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<v Speaker 1>now he's having to reset and then delivered the ball.

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<v Speaker 1>By that time the rush is on him. He is

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<v Speaker 1>not the most mobile, even though we've seen him run.

0:29:04.280 --> 0:29:07.200
<v Speaker 1>He scrambled for some for some some decent games, but

0:29:07.240 --> 0:29:09.760
<v Speaker 1>that's not his game. It's like, get the ball out

0:29:09.760 --> 0:29:11.800
<v Speaker 1>of the hand, try and get it short, and try

0:29:11.840 --> 0:29:14.880
<v Speaker 1>and attack the and drive. You know, teams are making

0:29:14.920 --> 0:29:18.120
<v Speaker 1>the Colts just try and drive the football and have

0:29:18.280 --> 0:29:21.000
<v Speaker 1>success doing that. But if you can, if you can,

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<v Speaker 1>I think the way to make the Colts one dimensional

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<v Speaker 1>is how your offense plays. You just score and score

0:29:28.720 --> 0:29:30.360
<v Speaker 1>and score and score, and that that puts a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of press. They don't score a lot of points, so

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<v Speaker 1>then it turns into now Michael Parsons and these guys

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<v Speaker 1>getting to rush the passer. Yeah, people that play fantasy football,

0:29:38.400 --> 0:29:40.400
<v Speaker 1>they obviously know Jonathan Taylor because he's a He's a

0:29:40.440 --> 0:29:42.760
<v Speaker 1>great fantasy player, number one pick in a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>drafts this year, but he doesn't get viewed a lot

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<v Speaker 1>as you know, kind of an underrated superstar. Compare him

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<v Speaker 1>to other running backs like no, not so much in

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<v Speaker 1>the league now but like his style compared to former backs,

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<v Speaker 1>they're just guy. I mean, he's a fast guy. He's

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<v Speaker 1>a big compact. I mean yeah, I mean he's the

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<v Speaker 1>thing about when you when you watch when you watch

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<v Speaker 1>him play, the thing that I've always been super oppressed

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<v Speaker 1>by him is he's he's like five ten, he's two

0:30:10.320 --> 0:30:13.760
<v Speaker 1>hundred and twenty six pounds, two hundred and twenty eight pounds,

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<v Speaker 1>and so you're, you know, you're, you're the quickness and

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<v Speaker 1>the explosiveness you know of these back I mean I

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<v Speaker 1>was thinking like, like, well, I was thinking guys like Lord's.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, lt was Ladaniel Thomas I think was a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of a shorter a little bit shorter guy maybe,

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<v Speaker 1>you know when when you talk about the running styles

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<v Speaker 1>and stuff like that, I was kind of thinking like

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<v Speaker 1>a Fred Taylor too. From jack you know Jackson, kind

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<v Speaker 1>of the little bit of he's got really he's quick,

0:30:41.920 --> 0:30:46.600
<v Speaker 1>he could be explosive, he's hard to bring down. Yeah, yeah,

0:30:46.640 --> 0:30:48.560
<v Speaker 1>that that mean when you mean, but this guy, I mean,

0:30:48.720 --> 0:30:50.800
<v Speaker 1>the thing about is how thick he is, and you

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<v Speaker 1>see the piles move with him. You know when you

0:30:54.960 --> 0:30:57.280
<v Speaker 1>like I say, you have to get teams that have

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<v Speaker 1>made him kind of play sideways, and I mean play sideways,

0:31:00.560 --> 0:31:02.680
<v Speaker 1>like he gets the ball and now he's bouncing and

0:31:02.720 --> 0:31:04.800
<v Speaker 1>he's still kind of going. It's when he can kind

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<v Speaker 1>of get his shoulders turned and go forward that he

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<v Speaker 1>has his best. But you know when you when you

0:31:10.200 --> 0:31:12.800
<v Speaker 1>talk about he catches the ball, well too, they'll throw

0:31:12.880 --> 0:31:15.360
<v Speaker 1>him screens, they'll flip him to him out, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>in a swing routes and stuff like that, So you

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<v Speaker 1>have to kind of be ready for that as well.

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<v Speaker 1>that's not That's a bad sound all right. So Brian,

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<v Speaker 1>you can mentioning how they don't score a lot of points,

0:34:16.239 --> 0:34:18.920
<v Speaker 1>which is true, and just to give people an idea,

0:34:19.000 --> 0:34:22.960
<v Speaker 1>they've only scored twenty one or more points twice the

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<v Speaker 1>whole season, thirty four versus Jacksonville and then twenty five

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<v Speaker 1>against the Rams. Uh they've also they win both games.

0:34:30.520 --> 0:34:32.640
<v Speaker 1>Do you know does it say that they won one

0:34:32.719 --> 0:34:35.640
<v Speaker 1>game out of those two? Sure, they beat Jacksonville with

0:34:35.719 --> 0:34:39.359
<v Speaker 1>thirty four points. I can't imagine the jagsers roll in that. Man. Yeah,

0:34:39.680 --> 0:34:45.400
<v Speaker 1>they beat the Jaguars and then where's the other one. Anyways,

0:34:45.760 --> 0:34:49.960
<v Speaker 1>that's okay. They'll score a lot of points. Yeah, their drives.

0:34:50.080 --> 0:34:53.080
<v Speaker 1>You know, they were going into what game was it?

0:34:53.120 --> 0:34:54.840
<v Speaker 1>There was a there was a point. It was against

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<v Speaker 1>the Raiders. I don't know why I say the Rams,

0:34:56.520 --> 0:34:59.000
<v Speaker 1>but it was they did they won that game? Yeah?

0:34:59.040 --> 0:35:03.320
<v Speaker 1>That was Jeff Saturday first. Yeah. The thing about that

0:35:03.440 --> 0:35:06.920
<v Speaker 1>they were a team that struggled with with opening drives

0:35:06.920 --> 0:35:09.839
<v Speaker 1>two in games they didn't they were struggling. They don't

0:35:09.920 --> 0:35:12.840
<v Speaker 1>score on opening drives any points at all. That's that

0:35:12.920 --> 0:35:15.200
<v Speaker 1>was something that they're dealing with. But you know, this

0:35:15.280 --> 0:35:17.520
<v Speaker 1>game for the Cowboys, I think it's really going to

0:35:17.560 --> 0:35:19.520
<v Speaker 1>be about your offense. I think it's but you know,

0:35:19.560 --> 0:35:22.200
<v Speaker 1>you you put a lot of pressure, like we just mentioned,

0:35:22.200 --> 0:35:25.200
<v Speaker 1>like we're talking about they don't score points, you make

0:35:25.239 --> 0:35:27.600
<v Speaker 1>them have to keep up. It's going to be hard

0:35:27.640 --> 0:35:29.680
<v Speaker 1>for them. It's going to be hard. They don't want

0:35:29.719 --> 0:35:32.120
<v Speaker 1>to play that kind of game. They really really don't

0:35:32.160 --> 0:35:33.839
<v Speaker 1>want to play that kind of game because they just

0:35:34.440 --> 0:35:37.200
<v Speaker 1>they've got good receivers. I respect the heck out of

0:35:37.280 --> 0:35:39.600
<v Speaker 1>Michael Pittman. I did when he came out of college.

0:35:39.640 --> 0:35:41.440
<v Speaker 1>I think Alec Pierce was one of my guys that

0:35:41.560 --> 0:35:43.200
<v Speaker 1>I you know, I had a really high grade coming

0:35:43.200 --> 0:35:45.879
<v Speaker 1>out of Cincinnati. You know, they've got guys that are

0:35:45.880 --> 0:35:48.839
<v Speaker 1>capable of making their tall, long guys that can give

0:35:48.840 --> 0:35:53.160
<v Speaker 1>you problems. They're great contested catchers. They're just not those downfield,

0:35:53.560 --> 0:35:56.120
<v Speaker 1>you know type of players. And you know, Matt Ryan

0:35:56.239 --> 0:35:58.040
<v Speaker 1>just that's kind of not his game. He used to

0:35:58.040 --> 0:35:59.560
<v Speaker 1>be able to throw the ball down the fielding and

0:35:59.600 --> 0:36:01.920
<v Speaker 1>you just don't see it as much now. Maybe after

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<v Speaker 1>watching some film against Anthony Brown and stuff like that,

0:36:05.120 --> 0:36:07.239
<v Speaker 1>that they'll figure out. You know, maybe we need to try,

0:36:08.480 --> 0:36:10.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, ki Ki Kuti and try and just take

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<v Speaker 1>him on a vertical route and see if he runs

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<v Speaker 1>past you know, see if he runs past you know Brown,

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<v Speaker 1>and we can you know, either get a penalty out

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<v Speaker 1>of it or uh, you know, make a catch and

0:36:20.320 --> 0:36:21.920
<v Speaker 1>take you off the rails for a second. I mean,

0:36:21.960 --> 0:36:24.840
<v Speaker 1>I feel like we've we've talked about their offense and

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<v Speaker 1>then they struggle whatever. Um, You've been around in the

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<v Speaker 1>NFL for a long time and I guess I have too.

0:36:31.320 --> 0:36:35.399
<v Speaker 1>But like, do you were you offended by the fact

0:36:35.480 --> 0:36:39.359
<v Speaker 1>that Jeff Saturday got that head coaching job? No, me either,

0:36:39.560 --> 0:36:42.000
<v Speaker 1>I really wasn't. And if I could explain real quick,

0:36:42.080 --> 0:36:43.800
<v Speaker 1>I'll try and explain you to me. I can't explain

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<v Speaker 1>anything quick. Um, you know, I've I'm the guy that

0:36:49.480 --> 0:36:52.640
<v Speaker 1>me personally that I look at I look at these

0:36:52.719 --> 0:36:56.320
<v Speaker 1>these jobs for coaches, and it used to be, well,

0:36:56.760 --> 0:36:59.359
<v Speaker 1>you know, I've never been more wrong about a guy

0:36:59.360 --> 0:37:02.480
<v Speaker 1>than I was, or Meyer never been more wrong about

0:37:02.480 --> 0:37:04.760
<v Speaker 1>a guy. I saw Urban Meyer as a program builder.

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<v Speaker 1>Whether it was a Bowling Green, whether it was at Utah,

0:37:08.640 --> 0:37:11.520
<v Speaker 1>whether it was at Florida, whether it was an Ohio state.

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<v Speaker 1>I always saw a program builder there. I saw a

0:37:13.960 --> 0:37:16.520
<v Speaker 1>guy with a plan and all that he gets the NFL,

0:37:16.520 --> 0:37:19.200
<v Speaker 1>he's an absolute disaster. He can't treat he doesn't how

0:37:19.200 --> 0:37:22.520
<v Speaker 1>to treat people. His demeanor, he thinks he has all

0:37:22.560 --> 0:37:24.880
<v Speaker 1>the answers. You know, it's you know, he doesn't know

0:37:24.880 --> 0:37:28.360
<v Speaker 1>how to treat the players. There's no interaction there. And

0:37:28.480 --> 0:37:32.600
<v Speaker 1>so here's one of the most most highly decorated college

0:37:32.640 --> 0:37:36.120
<v Speaker 1>coaches in the country and he goes to a pro

0:37:36.200 --> 0:37:39.040
<v Speaker 1>team and just completely botches it up. And then so

0:37:39.080 --> 0:37:41.319
<v Speaker 1>you're thinking, like, well, if you got guys like that,

0:37:41.680 --> 0:37:43.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, we've seen guys like Nick Sabe and go

0:37:43.440 --> 0:37:45.279
<v Speaker 1>to the Dolphins eight and eight and then go back

0:37:45.320 --> 0:37:48.719
<v Speaker 1>to college and just fine. So there are coaches two

0:37:48.719 --> 0:37:52.680
<v Speaker 1>and fourteen in there as well. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

0:37:52.719 --> 0:37:54.960
<v Speaker 1>So I mean that's that's kind of where you're at.

0:37:55.000 --> 0:37:59.240
<v Speaker 1>That you think that these guys that are highly touted

0:37:59.320 --> 0:38:02.080
<v Speaker 1>and prepare and ready and all that, and they get

0:38:02.080 --> 0:38:03.640
<v Speaker 1>these programs, they get screw it up just as bad

0:38:03.680 --> 0:38:06.439
<v Speaker 1>as a guy that's never coached. You know. I think

0:38:06.480 --> 0:38:09.719
<v Speaker 1>I think there's so much about managing people today in

0:38:09.800 --> 0:38:13.719
<v Speaker 1>sports and in life. I think managing people is a

0:38:13.800 --> 0:38:16.919
<v Speaker 1>skill that a lot of guys and gals, the ones

0:38:16.960 --> 0:38:20.080
<v Speaker 1>that have that ability are going to be successful. And

0:38:20.120 --> 0:38:22.440
<v Speaker 1>I think Jeff Saturday, you know, to be honest with you,

0:38:22.840 --> 0:38:26.120
<v Speaker 1>and watching the Colts play, they could have won all

0:38:26.120 --> 0:38:30.439
<v Speaker 1>three games that Jeff Saturday's coached in. They had Philadelphia

0:38:30.440 --> 0:38:32.640
<v Speaker 1>on the ropes. You know, they gave up a late

0:38:32.640 --> 0:38:36.160
<v Speaker 1>they gave up a late touchdown. You know. The game management, Okay,

0:38:36.239 --> 0:38:38.279
<v Speaker 1>that was in the Money Night game. You saw the

0:38:38.360 --> 0:38:40.799
<v Speaker 1>lack of game management or time management in that game

0:38:40.800 --> 0:38:42.520
<v Speaker 1>got him in a little bit of trouble. And he

0:38:42.680 --> 0:38:45.160
<v Speaker 1>came back afterwards and said managed to have used the timeouts.

0:38:45.680 --> 0:38:48.319
<v Speaker 1>So that kind of experience. But to be honest with you,

0:38:48.400 --> 0:38:51.400
<v Speaker 1>they could have won. They won the game against the Raiders.

0:38:51.800 --> 0:38:54.840
<v Speaker 1>They had Philadelphia on the ropes if they just you know,

0:38:54.920 --> 0:38:57.040
<v Speaker 1>if they don't just kick field goals or somehow they

0:38:57.120 --> 0:39:00.840
<v Speaker 1>can score, move the ball and score, you know, and

0:39:01.080 --> 0:39:03.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, and they had they had the Steelers, I mean,

0:39:03.000 --> 0:39:04.919
<v Speaker 1>they had the Steelers where kind of where they needed

0:39:04.960 --> 0:39:08.040
<v Speaker 1>to have him. So and I I agree with you there.

0:39:08.040 --> 0:39:10.760
<v Speaker 1>I know there's a lot of people that think it's prepared.

0:39:10.840 --> 0:39:13.120
<v Speaker 1>Coaches can screw this up to yeah, but and you

0:39:13.120 --> 0:39:15.120
<v Speaker 1>could tell the way McCarthy kind of answered it where

0:39:15.160 --> 0:39:18.359
<v Speaker 1>he thinks where he lies on this. You know, as

0:39:18.360 --> 0:39:20.200
<v Speaker 1>an old school coach, it's like, you know, there's a

0:39:20.239 --> 0:39:21.880
<v Speaker 1>coaching tree. There's a lot of guys doing it the

0:39:21.960 --> 0:39:24.719
<v Speaker 1>right way. But I'll say this, like we'll play ten

0:39:24.800 --> 0:39:26.719
<v Speaker 1>years in the league and be a seven eight time

0:39:26.760 --> 0:39:29.160
<v Speaker 1>pro bowler. I mean do that. I mean they have

0:39:29.320 --> 0:39:31.719
<v Speaker 1>experience as well. I mean I get it if you

0:39:31.800 --> 0:39:35.680
<v Speaker 1>just get handed a job. But you know, that's that's

0:39:35.840 --> 0:39:37.399
<v Speaker 1>that's what I was saying. I was just about to say,

0:39:37.480 --> 0:39:40.279
<v Speaker 1>Dion Sanders at Jackson State and then to get a

0:39:40.360 --> 0:39:44.080
<v Speaker 1>job here. Yeah, exactly. He's in a situation right now

0:39:44.160 --> 0:39:46.600
<v Speaker 1>where he you know we talk about with the prime

0:39:46.680 --> 0:39:48.279
<v Speaker 1>prep and all that kind of a you know, kind

0:39:48.320 --> 0:39:50.239
<v Speaker 1>of a little bit of crazy stuff going on there.

0:39:50.560 --> 0:39:53.040
<v Speaker 1>But he goes to Jackson State with the attenta. What

0:39:53.080 --> 0:39:56.160
<v Speaker 1>does he do. He gets people to rally around him,

0:39:56.320 --> 0:39:58.719
<v Speaker 1>He has people that believe in him, He evaluates the

0:39:58.840 --> 0:40:02.000
<v Speaker 1>right way. His it helps his son is probably one

0:40:02.040 --> 0:40:04.840
<v Speaker 1>of the better quarterbacks in the country right now. You know,

0:40:04.840 --> 0:40:08.280
<v Speaker 1>it's helping the program. But that's that's that's what it takes.

0:40:08.360 --> 0:40:10.920
<v Speaker 1>It go in there and organize and and you know,

0:40:11.040 --> 0:40:15.040
<v Speaker 1>delegate and and and make people have responsibility. That's what

0:40:15.120 --> 0:40:18.080
<v Speaker 1>Jeff Saturday's done. He get they got rid of the coordinator,

0:40:18.120 --> 0:40:20.439
<v Speaker 1>they got rid of the head coach, and he made

0:40:20.440 --> 0:40:22.439
<v Speaker 1>a guy a first time play card. Yeah. Sure, it's

0:40:22.480 --> 0:40:26.280
<v Speaker 1>not translating into a lot of points, but he's delegated

0:40:26.600 --> 0:40:28.960
<v Speaker 1>those guys play hard for him even though he's not.

0:40:29.080 --> 0:40:31.359
<v Speaker 1>But to your point, he played a lot of years

0:40:31.360 --> 0:40:33.840
<v Speaker 1>in this league and he was a Pro Bowl type player. Yeah,

0:40:33.960 --> 0:40:36.040
<v Speaker 1>there's I know that that's a big storyline with the

0:40:36.080 --> 0:40:38.160
<v Speaker 1>Colts right now. There's a lot of people offended by that,

0:40:38.239 --> 0:40:40.520
<v Speaker 1>and I'm not at all I'm not either, but but

0:40:40.600 --> 0:40:43.279
<v Speaker 1>I mean it's there's there's a lot of elements and a

0:40:43.239 --> 0:40:44.960
<v Speaker 1>a lot of layers to that. And and because you

0:40:45.000 --> 0:40:48.520
<v Speaker 1>said Dion, I'll just say this too, Dion. The exposure

0:40:48.560 --> 0:40:52.520
<v Speaker 1>that he has created for HBC schools is absolutely and

0:40:52.520 --> 0:40:55.120
<v Speaker 1>and that that wherever he goes to another place, he's

0:40:55.200 --> 0:40:59.080
<v Speaker 1>left that landscape uh much better than than it was. No.

0:40:59.239 --> 0:41:01.359
<v Speaker 1>He and you know the thing about now too, with him,

0:41:01.800 --> 0:41:04.600
<v Speaker 1>he can go in the transfer portals and things like that,

0:41:04.719 --> 0:41:06.239
<v Speaker 1>where he can go out. If he goes to a

0:41:06.239 --> 0:41:08.560
<v Speaker 1>Power five, you know Deon is going to be able

0:41:08.600 --> 0:41:11.319
<v Speaker 1>to recruit and so he'll get players to come play

0:41:11.360 --> 0:41:13.920
<v Speaker 1>for him, and all kids play, they play hard for him,

0:41:14.000 --> 0:41:18.040
<v Speaker 1>These kids dads, Yeah, they idolized. And I'm at the

0:41:18.120 --> 0:41:20.759
<v Speaker 1>kids too because it's still a figure. Yeah. And to me,

0:41:20.800 --> 0:41:24.080
<v Speaker 1>that's you know again about the coult situation, that you

0:41:24.239 --> 0:41:27.319
<v Speaker 1>don't have to you don't have to be a guy

0:41:27.400 --> 0:41:29.920
<v Speaker 1>that has You don't have to be Bill Walsh as

0:41:29.920 --> 0:41:33.120
<v Speaker 1>a coach. These coaches come from all walks of life.

0:41:33.440 --> 0:41:36.239
<v Speaker 1>You know, the guy down in Miami, you know McDonald

0:41:36.480 --> 0:41:39.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, yeah, McDaniel, and what he's doing down there,

0:41:39.440 --> 0:41:42.440
<v Speaker 1>it's incredible, you know, I mean his look at his background,

0:41:42.640 --> 0:41:44.440
<v Speaker 1>look at the look at those look at his background.

0:41:44.440 --> 0:41:46.759
<v Speaker 1>I mean he kind of went along and but he

0:41:46.800 --> 0:41:48.560
<v Speaker 1>was always kind of the lower tier guy. I was

0:41:48.600 --> 0:41:51.040
<v Speaker 1>with Sean Payton. You know Sean Payton, you talk about

0:41:51.040 --> 0:41:52.920
<v Speaker 1>the lower I mean, Sean Payton was getting coffee for

0:41:52.960 --> 0:41:55.640
<v Speaker 1>guys in Philadelphia and now he's you know, one of

0:41:55.640 --> 0:41:59.760
<v Speaker 1>the you know, most most decorated and highly recognized coaches.

0:42:00.800 --> 0:42:03.120
<v Speaker 1>Everybody's background is different when it comes to coaching you

0:42:03.239 --> 0:42:05.160
<v Speaker 1>and I just think that it's it's it's fine. You

0:42:05.160 --> 0:42:09.239
<v Speaker 1>don't have to have the best guy well, I recently

0:42:09.320 --> 0:42:12.000
<v Speaker 1>started reading up about the whole situation, and I feel

0:42:12.040 --> 0:42:14.680
<v Speaker 1>like I don't know enough just yet to even form

0:42:14.800 --> 0:42:18.200
<v Speaker 1>my own opinion on the subject. But I was curious

0:42:18.280 --> 0:42:22.120
<v Speaker 1>as to why when you post the question, Nick, why

0:42:22.200 --> 0:42:27.960
<v Speaker 1>you use the word offended. I think because there are

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<v Speaker 1>coaches that have struggled and they that like they did

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<v Speaker 1>it the Sean Payton way. They were offensive assistance that

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<v Speaker 1>were you know, they getting coffee. Then they become you know,

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<v Speaker 1>quality control. Then they become a quarterbacks coach, and then

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<v Speaker 1>maybe they're a play caller, and then they they move

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<v Speaker 1>themselves up as opposed to a guy that just played

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<v Speaker 1>football and he was a great player, and then he

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<v Speaker 1>goes at ESPN and next thing you know, they just

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<v Speaker 1>put it and he just jumps everyone, which the owner

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<v Speaker 1>could do whatever he wants. It's about people, and I

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<v Speaker 1>agree with the people. Yeah, it's about people. If you

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<v Speaker 1>can organize people and get him to share the belief

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<v Speaker 1>that you have, they don't have to completely agree with

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<v Speaker 1>everything you say, but if you get people all pulling

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<v Speaker 1>the same way, there's a lot of things you can

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<v Speaker 1>get done if if you have that kind of support.

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<v Speaker 1>But you have to have that ability to be a leader,

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<v Speaker 1>and Jeff Saturday is a leader. Have you seen that

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<v Speaker 1>clip And they played it for years, the clip with

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<v Speaker 1>Saturday and Peyton man Yeah, and Peyton's like, well, we'll

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<v Speaker 1>call the plays, Jeff, and he's over there, let's run

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<v Speaker 1>the ball, and then they're getting out of the sideline

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<v Speaker 1>and yeah, Peyton's like he started it. Yeah, yeah, you're

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<v Speaker 1>standing up to Peyton Manning. You know. It's funny. Jeff

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<v Speaker 1>Saturday never got off the bench. He just kind of

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of like just looked at him like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>you can go stand over there somewhere. Yeah, we're fine here,

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<v Speaker 1>just we'll make adjustments, will be good. I have a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of respect. Like I said, I can understand coaches

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<v Speaker 1>that that that went up that want to go up

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<v Speaker 1>through the ranks, but there's a lot of coaches that

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<v Speaker 1>have gone up through the ranks and failed at this

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<v Speaker 1>same It happens. It's not just in football, you see

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<v Speaker 1>that in other types of like industries around the world.

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<v Speaker 1>Like that happens with other people, and it's just kind

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<v Speaker 1>of who you know and where you came from and

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<v Speaker 1>all that, and some people do get to kind of

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<v Speaker 1>jump over all those steps and get it could be

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<v Speaker 1>expensive making mistakes and and like it. And I know

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<v Speaker 1>we'll finish up here. But Auburn, you know, Auburn University,

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<v Speaker 1>and I hope I'm not offending anybody from Auburn, but

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<v Speaker 1>you've had three coaches in four years. That's pretty expensive.

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's millions of millions of dollars spent, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>having to now pay coaches off for not getting the

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<v Speaker 1>right guy or not having the patience. You know, they

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<v Speaker 1>think you have the right guy, you know, and you

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<v Speaker 1>know they went out, went out and hired a coach

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<v Speaker 1>that has got some baggage to his name from when

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<v Speaker 1>he was last in the SEC. But that just shows

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<v Speaker 1>you they're thinking, we have to win. We have to win.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, sometimes you make those mistakes. All right, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>tomorrow we'll kind of flip the side of the things.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll talk about the Colts defense. It makes the place

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<v Speaker 1>on these guys, and we'll see how that matchup kind

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<v Speaker 1>of looks like for this weekend. And then this is

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<v Speaker 1>the end of the show for Nickiman. Brian brought us

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<v Speaker 1>Derek Eagleton, who stepped out a little bit earlier. Amember Garcia.

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<v Speaker 1>This has been the break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio.

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