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Speaker 2: Help, we're gonna celebrate here.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna make you a Buffalo Bill here in just

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Speaker 3: a minute. By excited excited. That's awesome.

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Speaker 2: That's awesome.

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Speaker 4: Thank you.

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Speaker 5: You're gonna fit our offense really well.

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Speaker 2: Now we're uh excited to get you here.

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Speaker 6: I'm gonna I'm gonna pass it a few people.

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Speaker 7: I'm gonna pass it our owner, uh, Terry Paula, and

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Speaker 7: then we'll get your coach.

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Speaker 8: From German and a coach all right, look forward to

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Speaker 8: getting here.

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Speaker 9: All right, all right, thanks tho.

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Speaker 4: Hey don't This is Terry Gogola.

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Speaker 2: Hello, going board, Welcome and forward.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Derek, Okay, thank you.

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Speaker 7: Let's tell buddy hey man, Yeah, hey, I just wanted

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Speaker 7: to say congratulations buddy. Do you and your family?

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Speaker 2: Thank you. I appreciate it. Thank you for the opportunity.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, man, Welcome to the Bills, buddy, Thank.

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Speaker 3: You, sir.

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Speaker 11: With the twenty fifth thick in the twenty twenty three

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Speaker 11: NFL Draft, the Buffalo Bills select Dalton Conkay tight end Utah.

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Speaker 4: All right, welcome to Day two coverage of the NFL Draft.

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Speaker 4: Daltonton Kad is your newest Buffalo Bill the tight End

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Speaker 4: from the University of Utah. Best part about that whole

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Speaker 4: thing was the man scramble of the guy in the

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Speaker 4: back for the Bill's hat. Hood not find it. He

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Speaker 4: needs a bit her key grip on the hat patrol.

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Speaker 4: Holy cowbuddy.

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Speaker 9: I'll tell you what though, what a moment for the family.

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Speaker 9: I mean, you can all imagine sitting around and knowing

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Speaker 9: what we know about all the things that go on

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Speaker 9: in the NFL and watching it growing up, watching as

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Speaker 9: with all those guys and your family's sitting there. They

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Speaker 9: don't even know who he's talking to, right and then

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Speaker 9: he hangs up and goes, it's the Bills. Let me

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Speaker 9: tell you something from that moment on how big a

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Speaker 9: Bills fanner is your family? Right then? And they are like,

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Speaker 4: The guy in the background cracked me up last night,

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Speaker 4: and our social media team of course put it out

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Speaker 4: last night with like who wants to be a millionaire?

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Speaker 4: Tension music?

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Speaker 9: Exactly.

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Speaker 4: He's just rifling through He's trying to find the hat

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Speaker 4: because each of these prospects that are expected to be

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Speaker 4: They get mailed all thirty two team hats, so they're

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Speaker 4: prepared based on who picks them. They pull out the hat,

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Speaker 4: they slap it on, and off they go. Well, here's

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Speaker 4: the big moment. And you know he's on his camera

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Speaker 4: and the poor tie in the back. He's rifling through

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Speaker 4: the hats on the credenza where the heck is the belts.

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Speaker 4: The heck is the belts. You don't looking for something

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Speaker 4: and it's always the last one.

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Speaker 9: Well, yeah, he goes through. You watch him. He goes

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Speaker 4: I have the first time I talked to Dalton Kate,

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Speaker 4: I am going to tease him. I can say, dude,

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Speaker 9: Yes, that was that was you brought your boy had

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so that was I was laughing at.

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Speaker 9: That's great. It really is a great because we all,

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Speaker 9: you can all, we can all relate to it. That

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Speaker 9: a good friend of good friend of mine used to

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Speaker 4: no further than the Detroit Lions. We heard Greg Cosel

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Speaker 4: And the Detroit Lions are the poster child for that.

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Speaker 4: They take Jamier Gibbs at twelve when a lot of

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Speaker 4: I hope he trolls him with the Bill's social posts.

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Speaker 4: Just send it to him. Hey, nice job last night, buddy,

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Speaker 4: Thanks for being there for.

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Speaker 9: People, NICs forgetting you got my background.

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Speaker 4: I enjoyed that.

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Speaker 9: Friends for life. That's great too. You could see the kid,

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Speaker 4: But Steve, here's the interesting part. And I know there

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Speaker 4: this pick of Dalton Kinkaid. A tight end. You don't

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Speaker 4: unquestionably is the best pass catching tight end in the draft.

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Speaker 4: I talked about this, Steve. We said, if Brandon Bean

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Speaker 4: But you're dealing. They were not dealing from a position

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Speaker 9: Unlikely they're all gonna be gone.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, pretty unlikely that of them are going to be there.

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Speaker 4: You've got a tight end class that many people consider

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Speaker 7: You're looking for mismatches out there, you really are, and

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Speaker 7: so you're trying to you know, does the tight end

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Speaker 7: If so, they're probably going to play him like a receiver.

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Speaker 7: But if you can find those guys that are not

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Speaker 7: And that's why I'm it's not that, hey, you got

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Speaker 4: Else Dalton King kid fits that Bill.

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Speaker 9: Yeah. And here's the thing too, I don't know whether

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Speaker 9: it's great pick. By the they all love the pick.

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Speaker 4: I'm like, I don't know if I like that, but

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Speaker 4: whose opinion I consider and value, and that's Daniel Jeremiah

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Speaker 4: from NFL Network.

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Speaker 9: He's had the same thing. All those guys we've had

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Speaker 4: Right, And I don't think that Kincaid is a throwaway

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Speaker 9: Crowder got hurt.

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Speaker 4: Crowder got hurt. Guys, this guy's lined up everywhere. He's

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Speaker 4: You heard Brandon Bean reference it last night. He made

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Speaker 4: I'm not saying he's Travis Kelcey, but he has some

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Speaker 4: is extremely high on Kincaid for a few reasons. We

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Speaker 4: This guy provides that. What's the other complaint from Bill's

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Speaker 9: He's two, he's six four two forty almost two fifty

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Speaker 9: just he's he's got great hands. And i'll tell you what.

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Speaker 9: You know, he's not Travis Kelsey, Yeah he's not, but

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Speaker 4: Now, with respect to his blocking, he is far from

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Speaker 9: It's not a power of twelve personnel where you've got

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Speaker 9: He's got to be a safety. You can't do a

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Speaker 9: gonna have five draft or at this moment, they're gonna

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Speaker 9: have five draft picks instead of six. But they got

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Speaker 9: a guy who is in an arms race.

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Speaker 4: In the NFL.

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Speaker 9: They got a guy, They got a weapon, no question,

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Speaker 9: about it, and I think Bills fans should be pretty,

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Speaker 9: I don't know, pretty happy with this pick. This this

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Speaker 9: guy can play. I think he's gonna be a really

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Speaker 9: good pro. It's gonna be fun to watch.

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Speaker 4: The last time the Bills took a tight end in

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Speaker 4: the first round was nineteen eighty three Tony Hunter. Tony

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Speaker 4: Hunter went two picks ahead of pick fourteen, which was

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Speaker 4: Jim Kelly. And Tony Hunter was from Notre Dame, was

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Speaker 4: he not? I think he was been. Yeah, I want

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Speaker 4: to say that's right. I'll check it in the break.

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Speaker 4: But so this is the first time in forty years

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Speaker 4: that they've taken a tight end in round one, and

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Speaker 4: they were able to wait twice as long to make

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Speaker 4: the pick because they didn't take them till pick twenty

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Speaker 4: six or twenty five. So yeah, and I dynamic, dynamic playmaker,

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Speaker 4: and I can't wait to see how they utilize him.

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Speaker 4: And I'm glad that they pivoted because the value was

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Speaker 4: not their receiver. That was clear. They pivoted. They took

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Speaker 4: a tight end. Who's going to make plays in this

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Speaker 4: offense going forward? A question for you on the table

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Speaker 4: today concerns Day two, Steve, What's your reaction to the

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Speaker 4: bills selection of tight end Dalton Kincaid, and who are

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Speaker 4: your targets tonight? The Bills pick fifty nine and ninety

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Speaker 4: one in rounds two and three respectively, at least for now.

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Speaker 4: So if you have targets for tonight, you let us

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Speaker 4: know at eight oh three oh five point fifty open

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Speaker 4: line for you. There one eight eight eight five point

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Speaker 4: fifty two five point fifty the toll free number to

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Speaker 4: get on board. Let's go to the phones and to

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Speaker 4: John in Buffalo. What do you got for us? John,

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Speaker 4: You're on one Bill's Live.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 12: I just think picking up this tight end was probably

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Speaker 12: a good move for us for the simple fact is

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Speaker 12: I think he was better than any of the other

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Speaker 12: wide receivers we had on the board.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, in terms of the draft class, right, Yeah, he

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Speaker 4: might be right about that, John.

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Speaker 13: You are more of a flexible tight end going out there,

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Speaker 13: more of like what New England had years ago.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly with Gronk and Hernandez. Yeah. That's a good point, John.

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Speaker 4: And there's been a lot of successful offenses through the

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Speaker 4: years that have two capable tight ends. We already mentioned

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Speaker 4: the Carolina Panthers. They went all the way to the

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Speaker 4: Super Bowl with one with a combination, and you know

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Speaker 4: you you just mentioned another one, you know with the Patriots.

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Speaker 4: So I don't want to put too much on the

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Speaker 4: kid now, but I think this guy is going to

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Speaker 4: be on the field a great deal. And here's the

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Speaker 4: other part of why I like this move, Steve. Last year,

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Speaker 4: I think we would all agree that while the offense

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Speaker 4: was extraordinarily productive second in points led the league and

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Speaker 4: third down conversions, et cetera, et cetera, there were weeks

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Speaker 4: where the offense and executing and scoring points felt like

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Speaker 4: a heavy lift. The Jets game, for example, down at

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Speaker 4: the at MetLife Stadium, it was a heavy lift the

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Speaker 4: whole week. The whole game just felt it felt everything

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Speaker 4: felt hard. Now, part of that's because the Jets have

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Speaker 4: a pretty dangn good defense, but I felt like what

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Speaker 4: was missing from that offense were the easy answers in

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Speaker 4: the passing game for jobs. And the guy that provided

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Speaker 4: the easy answers the best was Cole Beasley. He was

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Speaker 4: a blitz beater all by himself. Third and six, bing

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Speaker 4: two yards, sit down, open, throw me the ball, I

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Speaker 4: fall forward, I get the first down. Off we go

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Speaker 4: and he was so successful in that role that it

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Speaker 4: actually kept teams from blitzing Josh. Because after you do

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Speaker 4: that four times and Beasley's got four catches for sixty yards,

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Speaker 4: you're like, son of a gun, we can't keep doing that.

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Speaker 4: We got to do something else. Now Josh has time

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Speaker 4: to make bigger plays because they've backed off. They're like, well, crap,

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Speaker 4: we don't have an answer for that. Dalton Kincaid is

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Speaker 4: Josh Allen's new easy button answer. I am telling you

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Speaker 4: right now, easy button Dalton Kincaid third and six, first down,

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Speaker 4: every single time. This is a guy that can get

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Speaker 4: defenses to back off on the blitz because Josh got

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Speaker 4: hit a lot more last year than the year before.

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Speaker 9: That's right, and I agree with John the caller. There's problem.

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Speaker 9: There wasn't a wide receiver there that they felt was

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Speaker 9: worthy of that, particularly one that had his elite hands

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Speaker 9: and the ability to play his position. The wide receiver

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Speaker 9: as opposed to how good Dalton Kincaid plays tight end.

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Speaker 9: They liked it better. In fact, they jumped up two

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Speaker 9: spots together and make sure nobody else got him. Like

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Speaker 9: I said, there's a lot wide ranging evaluations. You can

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Speaker 9: say what you want about whether the Bills were right

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Speaker 9: or wrong. But there's a lot of national guys here that,

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Speaker 9: like we said, Daniel jere Daniel Jeremiah, I had him

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Speaker 9: as the ninth best player in the draft of all

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Speaker 9: of them, of anybody at any position overall. So there's

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Speaker 9: some people out there who really wanted Dalton Kincaid. And

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Speaker 9: while they had different needs, and he got all the

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Speaker 9: way down to twenty five in the draft, the Bills

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Speaker 9: knew he wasn't going to make it out of the

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Speaker 9: first round, and they jumped up and got him. And

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Speaker 9: I'm with you, Brownie, I think he has a lot

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Speaker 9: of potential to really check and add a new dimension

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Speaker 9: and a different dimension to this offense. And you're right.

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Speaker 9: Having a guy that just finds a spot, catches it

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Speaker 9: even if he turns around and falls forward, gets the

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Speaker 9: first down by yard and a half every once in

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Speaker 9: a while. And Kincaid showing the ability to do this

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Speaker 9: as well. He's gonna shake, shake a tackle and go

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Speaker 9: for twenty five and then you you know, then it's

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Speaker 9: a different game. So I'm I'm with you. I think

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Speaker 9: this is a really good move. They had Dalton, Dalton, Dalton,

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Speaker 9: They had Dalton Kinkaid now along with Dawson Knox and

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Speaker 9: Quinton Morris. They needed a guy and at this point

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Speaker 9: they're not gonna find one free agency who is worthy

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Speaker 9: of that spot. Dalton Kinkaid is.

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Speaker 4: I know he was recovering from his back injury, so

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Speaker 4: there's no testing on him. You don't know what his

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Speaker 4: forty time is. I'm just gonna tell you the guy

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Speaker 4: can really run like he's really really good after the catch,

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Speaker 4: and I think Bill's fans are gonna love this kid.

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Speaker 4: We have to take a break here, but we are

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Speaker 4: asking you at ATO three oh five to fifty, what's

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Speaker 4: your reaction to the Bills selection of Dalton Kincaid and

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Speaker 4: who are your targets for night two tonight? If you

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Speaker 4: have any favorites that are still on the board, let

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Speaker 4: us know who they are for you and we'll get

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Speaker 4: right to you. Open line for you at ATO three

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Speaker 4: oh five point fifty. John in Rochester, Pete in South

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Speaker 4: Buffalo will lead us off when we return here on

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Speaker 4: an extra hour of One Bill's Live, presented by Kalida Health,

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Speaker 4: It's Buffalo Bills Radio. All right, welcome back, One Bill's

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Speaker 4: Live Draft Day number two. Kansas City, the site. Dalton

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Speaker 4: Kincaid was made the Bill's first round pick in a

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Speaker 4: little trade up Steve in the five drafts under Brandon

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Speaker 4: Bean in which they have had a first round pick,

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Speaker 4: they do not have a first round pick in twenty twenty.

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Speaker 4: As we know Stefan Diggs trade in the five drafts

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Speaker 4: under Brandon Bean in which they have had a first

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Speaker 4: round pick, they have now traded up four times in

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Speaker 4: round one. Show on that. I like it aggressive, I

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Speaker 4: like it get a guy. Yeah, I don't have a

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Speaker 4: problem with it either.

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Speaker 9: I don't. I think it's great. I'm I'm all about it.

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Speaker 9: The one time they didn't was ed right, and so yeah,

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Speaker 9: I'm all about it. We're talking in the in the back,

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Speaker 9: you talk about tonight, what's it going to look like?

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Speaker 9: I think maybe we should have asked, you know, our listeners,

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Speaker 9: viewers to pick a position group they think this next

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Speaker 9: pick is going to come from.

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Speaker 4: I think people still have a lot of favorite players.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, they're still on the boards.

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Speaker 4: That's why I think asking who's your player? Yeah, and

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Speaker 4: they will discern position groups from there.

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Speaker 9: But I'm I think I think this this next pick

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Speaker 9: is also going to be on the offensive side of

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Speaker 9: the ball. I think it's either going to be an

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Speaker 9: offensive line lineman or wide receiver. I don't think it's

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Speaker 9: going to be a running backround obviously. I don't think

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Speaker 9: it's going to be a tight end, and it's not

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Speaker 9: gonna be a quarterback. I think it's going to be

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Speaker 9: an offensive lineman or it's going to be a wide

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Speaker 9: receiver that they like, probably more so for me an

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Speaker 9: offensive lineman. I've been and the graphic that we're looking

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Speaker 9: at on TV that the listeners can't see it. Joe Tipman,

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Speaker 9: the center from Wisconsin. He's six ' five, just over

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Speaker 9: he's over three bills three to eleven or something. He

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Speaker 9: can really run. He is a smart, really good guy.

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Speaker 9: Could play center and probably guard as well. Osiris Torrance,

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Speaker 9: who has been mocked to the Bills O tenth times,

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Speaker 9: is still on the board at guard. Steve Avila, who

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Speaker 9: I we had a conversation during the year during the

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Speaker 9: run up to this, I thought Steve Avila might be

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Speaker 9: the guy guard from TCU Bergeron, the guy from Syracuse.

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Speaker 9: Everybody's been pointing to just move down the road to Buffalo.

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Speaker 9: Cody mack early on was has been mocked to the

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Speaker 9: Buffalo Bills as well from North Dakota State. He's the guy,

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Speaker 9: the big redheaded maniac out of North Dakota State. So

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Speaker 9: all these guys are out there, and I'm telling you

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Speaker 9: right that all those guys I just named, one of

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Speaker 9: them is gonna be there at fifty nine.

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Speaker 4: I don't think.

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Speaker 9: So you don't think any ofm are gonna be there.

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Speaker 4: Only five offensive linemen went in round one. Four of

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Speaker 4: them were tackles. I am telling you right now, Steve Avila,

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Speaker 4: Joe Tipman will be gone before you get to pick

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Speaker 4: thirty eight. They are going in the first six picks.

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Speaker 4: Here's the thing, and the only thing that would prevent

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Speaker 4: that is if Will Levis and Hendon Hooker come off

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Speaker 4: the board. And I'm telling you right now, last night,

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Speaker 4: before round one was even over, Pittsburgh, who holds the

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Speaker 4: thirty second pick, tonight was besieged with phone calls because

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Speaker 4: people want to get the quarterback at the top of

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Speaker 4: the second round, right, So that could very well happen.

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Speaker 4: But I'm telling you right now, the run at the

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Speaker 4: top of round two will be o line.

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Speaker 9: Maybe you might be right, but all those guys that

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Speaker 9: I was talking about, Tipman, Avila, Torrents. All of those

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Speaker 9: guys mount they're all interior offensive linemen. Yep, those guys

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Speaker 9: tend to hang around a little while all the tackles

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Speaker 9: those may go, those may go. That may be where

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Speaker 9: the run is.

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Speaker 4: The offensive happened, It happened last night, right.

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Speaker 9: But this is this is a big year for these guys.

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Speaker 4: So I'm, you know, I believe that the value Steve

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Speaker 4: when the Bills are on the clock is going to

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Speaker 4: be I'm I'm in a different camp here. I believe

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Speaker 4: the value will be on the defensive side of the ball.

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Speaker 4: And I am hoping there is a linebacker, a defensive

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Speaker 4: tackle that appeals to them and the value matches, because

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Speaker 4: I think that's what will be there at that point

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Speaker 4: in time. I think corners also a deep position that

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Speaker 4: will offer good value. I don't necessarily want the Bills

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Speaker 4: to go there in round two, but what's left on

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Speaker 4: the board may push them in that direction. So and I'm,

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Speaker 4: as you know, I'm still a big Drew Sanders fan.

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Speaker 4: Do I think he gets to fifty nine? Maybe Drew

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Speaker 4: Sanders gets to fifty nine and they take him at

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Speaker 4: fifty nine Tonight, dalton Kin Kaid Drew Sanders in the

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Speaker 4: first two rounds. You'll you can watch me. I'll be

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Speaker 4: break dancing over here on the other side of the studio.

657
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Speaker 4: If they do that, I'll be watching.

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Speaker 9: Ion't be doing it.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, you can film me.

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Speaker 9: I'll film you. Yeah, it'd be my Twitter post. They Yeah,

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Speaker 9: I don't think Sanders has got a shot to be

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Speaker 9: there when the Bills picked.

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Speaker 4: Now here's what's interesting about Sanders because we just talked

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Speaker 4: about Daniel Jeremiah's top one fifty. Yeah, Drew Sanders is

665
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Speaker 4: at sixty three on his top one fifty.

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Speaker 9: Okay, it's gonna be what it's the wild west Man because.

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Speaker 4: The Bills aren't trading up tonight. They just don't have

668
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Speaker 4: the amo to do it. They got to get pick

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Speaker 4: right unless they you know, right, they're not moving up tonight. No,

670
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 4: they got to just series. They gotta sit and wait.

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00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 9: Right, they may, they may. The only way they'd move

672
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 9: up tonight is I mean, I guess they could, you know,

673
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Speaker 9: by throwing some pick.

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Speaker 4: But they're gonna talk next year's pat You're talking next

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Speaker 4: year pick.

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Speaker 9: So if you're gonna move up with next year's picks,

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Speaker 9: the only way they do that is if they get

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Speaker 9: to like ninety one and Sanders is still on the board.

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Speaker 4: I think if he's on the board, he's the pick

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Speaker 4: at fifty nine. I don't know how you right, how

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Speaker 4: you not take him if he's there at fifty nine.

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00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:34,120
Speaker 4: The reason is is he there at fifty nine? That's

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Speaker 4: a big question.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 9: The line backing, the inside linebackers, the class in this

686
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 9: draft are undersized, fast guys. The only two guys that

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Speaker 9: are big Ordrew Sanders, the guy we're talking about, and

688
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:52,759
Speaker 9: Jack Campbell that the Detroit Lions took last night. They're

689
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:55,480
Speaker 9: the only two guys that have any size to them.

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00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:57,040
Speaker 9: The rest of them are.

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Speaker 4: Six one two twenty six foot two twenty five, right, yeah,

692
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 4: all there's a lot of playmakers there, but they're short.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, and light. And here's what you fear or guard

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Speaker 9: against as an NFL team, not so much obviously a

695
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 9: college team, because all these guys are coming out of

696
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 9: that league, the NFL. You get to a guy like

697
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:23,280
Speaker 9: Matt Milano. Whether you're not taking Matt Lohano off the field,

698
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 9: he's a two thirty five linebacker and he put a

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00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:30,919
Speaker 9: two twenty five middle linebacker next to him, and all

700
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 9: of a sudden those guys are gonna do nothing but

701
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:34,879
Speaker 9: start taking on guards in the run game.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, because the other team's just gonna lie. They're gonna

703
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 4: come straight.

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00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 9: And you're gonna start breaking down physically. Milana won't finish

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Speaker 9: the season. This draft pick won't finish the season. They're

706
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:46,799
Speaker 9: gonna get hammered by weight and he's gonna keep coming

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Speaker 9: at you. And that is a problem. It's something the

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Speaker 9: NFL teams contend with.

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Speaker 4: Let's get to the phones. At eight oh three, five

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Speaker 4: point fifty, we go to Josh in Rochester, as promised,

711
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Speaker 4: What do you got for us?

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Speaker 12: Josh, Hey, you guys, Heary, Yeah, all right.

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Speaker 14: I was just thinking about the you know, the draft,

714
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Speaker 14: and you know, I don't hate the Kincaid pick, but

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Speaker 14: you know, I think there's a lot more important things

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00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 14: that we could be doing right now. Like I think

717
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 14: we need to get a running back in this this

718
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:21,799
Speaker 14: round coming up. I don't hate sharbon a from uh U.

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Speaker 5: C l A.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, good, really really good player, breaks a lot of tackles.

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Speaker 4: But what what do you not like about James Cook

722
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Speaker 4: and Damien Harris.

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Speaker 14: It's not that I don't like them, you know, I

724
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Speaker 14: just think I think Sharbon a will be the best

725
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Speaker 14: for us because I don't know, you know, he breaks

726
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 14: a lot of tackles, like you said, and you know,

727
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 14: kind of uh grinder runner.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I look, I respect that, Josh, and I

729
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 4: don't have a problem with sharbon Ay. I think he's

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Speaker 4: a great player. But going into tonight, would you say

731
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 4: there's a bigger hole at running back or a bigger

732
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Speaker 4: hole at linebacker? Right now? I think we lost him

733
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Speaker 4: and we lost Okay, fair enough. You don't have to

734
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 4: answer every question we pose. It's okay, let's move along

735
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:08,279
Speaker 4: and we'll go to Pete in South Buffalo. What do

736
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Speaker 4: you offer as Pete? You're on One Bill's Live.

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Speaker 15: Hey, happy Friday, guys.

738
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Speaker 4: How a happy Friday?

739
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Speaker 15: We made it? Yeah, you're taking my call. I just

740
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:20,280
Speaker 15: wanted to reach out. First of all, I think that

741
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 15: that Kimcaid move was was great. I think it provides

742
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:25,879
Speaker 15: a lot of flexibility in the offensive side without a doubt,

743
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Speaker 15: and I'm looking forward to seeing seeing him soon in

744
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 15: the Bill's uniform. But one question I had for both

745
00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 15: of you is specific to a guy that was hot

746
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 15: a few months ago. Michael Mayer. You know it was

747
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:37,759
Speaker 15: not too long ago, Like I said that he was

748
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 15: the top tight end in the class. I'm just kind

749
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Speaker 15: of curious your guys' thoughts on what made that change,

750
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Speaker 15: like why how did Kim Kaid pass him? And I'm

751
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 15: sure Mayor will be taken very soon, if not tonight,

752
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 15: soon sooner, but just what your thoughts are on that

753
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:53,400
Speaker 15: and why Kincaid was picked before Mayor.

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Speaker 2: I'll hang up and listen to you guys, Thanks so much,

755
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:55,880
Speaker 2: no problem.

756
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:58,439
Speaker 9: I'll tell you what. And it's a good question because

757
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:00,719
Speaker 9: you'll find people say they want a that's more well

758
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 9: rounded and Mayor can probably block in the run game

759
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:09,360
Speaker 9: better than Kinkaid can. The NFL is a throwing league,

760
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:12,960
Speaker 9: and I think they want a guy that can do

761
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 9: it in the passing game first and then they'll live

762
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:17,360
Speaker 9: with the rest of it. And a guy like Kinkaid is,

763
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Speaker 9: by all accounts, is significantly better than Mayor in the

764
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Speaker 9: passing game. He's more versatile. He can line up in

765
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:28,960
Speaker 9: absolutely every position on the field at skill position, wide out, slot,

766
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Speaker 9: tight end, wing back, full back. He's a total kind

767
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Speaker 9: of a h back kind of guy who is big enough.

768
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Speaker 9: If he gets a little bit more edge and a

769
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Speaker 9: little more strength, can certainly get better in the run game,

770
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Speaker 9: but that's not his strength. I think NFL teams covet

771
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Speaker 9: guys who can run and catch, who are great big guys,

772
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Speaker 9: and kin kid is that. I think it's just a

773
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Speaker 9: higher premium on that side of the tight end position

774
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Speaker 9: at the NFL level that certainly, I don't want to

775
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:02,279
Speaker 9: call it.

776
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:02,920
Speaker 5: I don't want to.

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Speaker 9: Disparage it by saying it's old school, because you know,

778
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:08,360
Speaker 9: everybody wants one of those guys if you can find him.

779
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:12,799
Speaker 9: But it's a throwing league and you run it when

780
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:17,520
Speaker 9: you want to rather than having to run the football

781
00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 9: these days, and I think the tight end position is

782
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 9: one of those places that reflects that. I think there's

783
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 9: no question kin Kaid's a much better pass catcher than

784
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Speaker 9: any other tight end of this class, and that's why

785
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Speaker 9: he got picked first.

786
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Speaker 4: Now, if it was the Tennessee Titans in that spot,

787
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:33,720
Speaker 4: or if it was the Baltimore Ravens in that spot,

788
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 4: maybe they take Mayor instead of Kincaid because of what

789
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 4: they do offensively. They pound the football. But as Steve

790
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 4: pointed out, this is an arms race. In the AFC.

791
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:50,280
Speaker 4: It's a scoring league. And here's probably the simplest bottom

792
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:55,760
Speaker 4: line we can give you Michael Mayer in his college

793
00:41:55,760 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 4: career eighteen touchdowns, Dalton Kincaid thirty five. It's a league

794
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:04,520
Speaker 4: where you got to outscore the other teams. Nobody's been

795
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:07,240
Speaker 4: able to stop the Kansas City Chiefs. You gotta outscore them.

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00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:09,359
Speaker 4: You have a better chance of doing that with Dalton

797
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 4: king Kay than Michael Mayer right flat out. That's I mean,

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Speaker 4: I can't spell it out any simply.

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Speaker 9: Really, Yeah, I think I think that's what it is.

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Speaker 9: It's not rocket science. I think it's just that simple.

801
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 9: You need guys that can move the football down the field.

802
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:27,239
Speaker 9: And Kinkaid's the best tight end in this class. At

803
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:29,359
Speaker 9: least he may turn out not to be. There may

804
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 9: be a better guy. And maybe Mayor will turn out

805
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:32,840
Speaker 9: to be a really good and he's a good player.

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Speaker 4: Mayor is probably gonna go with the first ten picks.

807
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Speaker 9: Yeah, they're both, they're both great players, but King Kaid

808
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 9: is a notch above. Right now, it looks like playing

809
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:46,280
Speaker 9: tight end and and I'll say this too, not for nothing.

810
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:48,879
Speaker 9: And I don't know how deep these teams go with this.

811
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Speaker 9: Pretty deep. I would think King Kid has only been

812
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:54,040
Speaker 9: playing the tight end spot for like four year in college.

813
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 9: He played one year high school ball, was not recruited

814
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Speaker 9: because he didn't have a body of work, went and played,

815
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 9: and he's a player that's really getting better and better

816
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:06,800
Speaker 9: and better because he is still learning the nuances of

817
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:10,440
Speaker 9: the you know, the physicality of the game higher. His

818
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:13,319
Speaker 9: ceiling is higher, and he's already really good in the

819
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 9: passing game. So if he gets better at that, I mean,

820
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Speaker 9: there's no stopping him. So all of that mixed in

821
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Speaker 9: is why the Bills liked him better than the other

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Speaker 9: players at that position.

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Speaker 4: Break time for us here, but more of your phone

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Speaker 4: calls when we return. Josh in Arcade and others holding

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Speaker 4: Want your thoughts on the dalton Kin k pick last

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00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:11,719
Speaker 4: night and any names of any players that are still

834
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 4: on the board that you like for the Bills. Tonight

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00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:17,759
Speaker 4: open lines for you there eight oh three five point

836
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Speaker 4: fifty and we go to josh in Arcade as promised.

837
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Speaker 4: What do you have for us, Josh.

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Speaker 16: Thiy, Guys, thanks for taking my call. So I really

839
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Speaker 16: do like the Dalkin Kate Pick. I was not one

840
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 16: hundred percent certain, but I was more leaning towards the

841
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:37,960
Speaker 16: defense in the first round, depending on how the board,

842
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:43,000
Speaker 16: depend on how the board went, but I absolutely love it.

843
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Speaker 16: He's an absolute playmaker. I think he's one of one

844
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:49,960
Speaker 16: of the best in this draft class, maybe even top

845
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:53,440
Speaker 16: ten if I'm gonna go that high. But for tonight,

846
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 16: I'm I'm in agreeing with both you. I really do

847
00:44:56,200 --> 00:45:01,360
Speaker 16: like wide receiver and defensive tackle. Mean some names, Cedric Tillman,

848
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:05,479
Speaker 16: Ragie Rice, Jonathan Mingo, Jayden Reid out of Michigan State,

849
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:10,400
Speaker 16: I really do like him. Then really defensive tackle, just

850
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 16: whoever whoever they feel fits fits the value. Jbon Dexter,

851
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:20,160
Speaker 16: Keanu Benton uh Get out of Texas. I forget his

852
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:24,000
Speaker 16: name is like Morejo or something, some kind of something

853
00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:24,840
Speaker 16: Mojo Oro.

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00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:29,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, he's on the team.

855
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:34,239
Speaker 16: Yeah exactly, But just those those guys, I I really

856
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:36,880
Speaker 16: do like but yeah, I was really happy with the

857
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:39,279
Speaker 16: with the pick last night. Thanks guys, All right, thank

858
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 16: you Brownie.

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Speaker 9: I've been talking about who we think is gonna go,

860
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Speaker 9: and Brownie thinks he's going to be a defensive player.

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Speaker 4: I just think the value where we're picking. I just

862
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:53,760
Speaker 4: see some of these receivers flying off the board after

863
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:56,319
Speaker 4: the run last night. Everybody that missed out is gonna

864
00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 4: want to get one. And then I think some of

865
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:02,279
Speaker 4: those interior offensive linemen, at least where we see a

866
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 4: lot of them graded, they're in the top half of

867
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:06,839
Speaker 4: the round and so I could see them coming off

868
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:08,319
Speaker 4: the board too. So I think by the time you

869
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:11,920
Speaker 4: get down to fifty nine, the value at O line

870
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 4: and maybe even receiver is gonna be a little crummy.

871
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 9: Yeah, and that.

872
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:20,960
Speaker 4: That concerns me. And so where do you go? I

873
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 4: think linebacker, just due to the loss of Edmonds, you

874
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:26,360
Speaker 4: have a hole there. Defensive tackle we've talked about with

875
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:29,480
Speaker 4: the expiring contracts of all four players at that position

876
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:33,440
Speaker 4: on the roster currently, so and then corner is a

877
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:37,239
Speaker 4: deep class, so maybe that's a bailout option for you

878
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:41,319
Speaker 4: at fifty nine. Like if you hate everything. You should

879
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:44,239
Speaker 4: still have a good corner there to take maybe as

880
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:47,040
Speaker 4: a you know, a bailout option. Yeah, I don't know.

881
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:51,839
Speaker 9: Corner to me, seems that's what I'm saying, last resort, Yeah,

882
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:54,279
Speaker 9: last lasts. I'm kind of with you.

883
00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:58,040
Speaker 4: There could be a receiver there. I mean, maybe we

884
00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:00,319
Speaker 4: see the same delay we saw last night. I was

885
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 4: nobody touched a receiver till pick twenty. Yeah, maybe that

886
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 4: happens again tonight. I don't know anything more than anybody

887
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:06,359
Speaker 4: else does.

888
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:09,319
Speaker 9: Yeah, four guys in a row came off the board, uh,

889
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:11,399
Speaker 9: twenty twenty one and twenty two and twenty three.

890
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:12,919
Speaker 4: I do like Jayden Reid though.

891
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:16,960
Speaker 9: Yeah. Here's the thing, and you see all the names there.

892
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:18,759
Speaker 9: It goes all the way down to Charles Jones out

893
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:21,000
Speaker 9: of purdueing at Perry, at wake Force at the one

894
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:24,239
Speaker 9: on one and one oh seven rank round three, right,

895
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:26,879
Speaker 9: those are round three guys. But I'll say this, there

896
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 9: are guys in college football coming out in the NFL

897
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 9: Draft that we you know, we don't talk about too much,

898
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:38,200
Speaker 9: but there are guys with a ton of measurables, big enough,

899
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 9: fast enough. They don't either they played at a lower

900
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:45,879
Speaker 9: level or they didn't test well on their draft day

901
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:49,160
Speaker 9: or or they're Pro day, or they don't have a

902
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:52,359
Speaker 9: big enough body of work. But there are guys out

903
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:54,360
Speaker 9: there who are gonna be available that you're gonna be

904
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:56,440
Speaker 9: able to get that are gonna be like, Wow, that

905
00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 9: guy runs a four to three, that kind of thing.

906
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:07,560
Speaker 9: That's I think when you starting, I'm with fifty nine.

907
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 9: If indeed they do pick there, I think whoever they're

908
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:12,440
Speaker 9: picking is going to have an enormous amount of measurables

909
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:16,760
Speaker 9: they're gonna be. It's gonna be a guy with this big, strong, fast,

910
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:20,439
Speaker 9: all of that stuff, you know, and whether he's high

911
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:22,040
Speaker 9: on the board or not, I think that's one of

912
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 9: those are the traits you're the most outstanding thing about him,

913
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:27,120
Speaker 9: even if we don't know exactly who he is yet.

914
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:30,279
Speaker 4: Let's get back to the phones and to Randy and Amherst. Next.

915
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:31,240
Speaker 4: What do you got for us? Randy?

916
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:36,280
Speaker 17: Oh, yes, I believe the Bells should go defense, defensive. Cackle.

917
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:41,600
Speaker 17: I like that Benton or that from he played at

918
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:47,560
Speaker 17: LSU and then transferred to Baylor's senior year. Yeah, yeah him.

919
00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:50,919
Speaker 17: Or I liked Drew Sanders if he's available too, Yeah,

920
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:56,400
Speaker 17: me too, And I also thought that. I called yesterday

921
00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 17: on the show and said, I'm fifty nine and I've

922
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:01,799
Speaker 17: never seen the Bills have a Pro Bowl tight end,

923
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:04,160
Speaker 17: and I'm glad we got somebody like him. He reminds

924
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:06,799
Speaker 17: me of George Kittle or Darren Waller, where they just

925
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 17: always get opened.

926
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:11,040
Speaker 4: You know, he is always open. You are right about that,

927
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:13,640
Speaker 4: Randy all Right. Some good names there too. He's open

928
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:16,760
Speaker 4: for a defensive tackle or a linebacker, and I would

929
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:19,880
Speaker 4: be in that camp also. I just I hope Sanders

930
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:21,640
Speaker 4: gets down to the Bills at fifty nine. I'd be

931
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:23,640
Speaker 4: over the moon if they take him, because I just

932
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:25,120
Speaker 4: really like him as a player. I think he's a

933
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 4: two position guy. Let's squeeze in Tom and Rochester. Here.

934
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 4: What do we got for his Tom?

935
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:36,759
Speaker 12: Hey, guys, how you doing doing well? I'll tell you

936
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:40,480
Speaker 12: what I wanted to jump through my television set last night.

937
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:44,360
Speaker 12: I've been so excited that they took this kid from Utah.

938
00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:47,640
Speaker 12: I watched that game against USC and I said, Wow,

939
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:50,920
Speaker 12: this kid's something special. And this is coming from a

940
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:53,080
Speaker 12: guy that's been a Bills fan for a long time.

941
00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:55,279
Speaker 12: And I'm just gonna give you some bad memories of

942
00:49:55,320 --> 00:49:59,840
Speaker 12: things I went to the stadium and watched Tom Brady

943
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:05,000
Speaker 12: and Rob Gronkowski eat up the Buffalo Bills. I watched

944
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:10,000
Speaker 12: last year Travis Kelcey dominate in the Super Bowl, dominate

945
00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:13,600
Speaker 12: in the playoffs. Nobody could cover him. I'll tell you what.

946
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:16,440
Speaker 12: I think the light went up in Brandon Bean's head

947
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:19,680
Speaker 12: and this kid is gonna be something special. I'm telling

948
00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:23,000
Speaker 12: you right now exactly where they're putting them. And let

949
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:25,480
Speaker 12: me say one further thing here before I let you

950
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:28,239
Speaker 12: go here and here I go. I hope they make

951
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:33,120
Speaker 12: the trade for Hopkins, Okay, and I think it would

952
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:36,080
Speaker 12: be a brilliant move if they get Hopkins. I don't

953
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:38,279
Speaker 12: know how they're gonna fill them under the camp, but

954
00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:41,480
Speaker 12: I'll tell you what, that would send a strong message

955
00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:45,440
Speaker 12: to Stefan Dicks as far as what went on the

956
00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:48,719
Speaker 12: field after the last playoff game, if he's got a

957
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:51,000
Speaker 12: little more competition against i'mone. I'll let you go out

958
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:52,239
Speaker 12: one here what you guys got to say?

959
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:56,200
Speaker 4: All right, Tom, thanks for the call. I really don't

960
00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:58,120
Speaker 4: think there was an issue with Stefon Diggs at the

961
00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:00,279
Speaker 4: end of the season. It was a guy that all

962
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:03,440
Speaker 4: the frustrations of the season had boiled over in him,

963
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 4: and it's fourth down, it's the team's last kick at

964
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:10,560
Speaker 4: the cat to try to climb back into the game.

965
00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:14,279
Speaker 4: And those are moments in games where Stefan Diggs is

966
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:18,800
Speaker 4: usually the primary target. He was not based on Josh's decision,

967
00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:23,600
Speaker 4: and it rankled him. Not because it's all about him

968
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:27,239
Speaker 4: and I want the ball, it's because Stefan Diggs genuinely

969
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:30,640
Speaker 4: believes in his head, in his heart that they're a

970
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:33,319
Speaker 4: better team if he's given an opportunity to help them

971
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:37,319
Speaker 4: win games by making plays. And he's completely dependent on

972
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:40,440
Speaker 4: his quarterback to allow him to make plays. And he

973
00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:43,480
Speaker 4: knew the season was over in that moment, and that

974
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:46,600
Speaker 4: guy has a burning passion of a thousand suns to

975
00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:50,880
Speaker 4: win football games and that was not going to happen

976
00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:54,920
Speaker 4: on that day, and his emotions boiled over and you

977
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:58,480
Speaker 4: saw what you saw. But going forward, the dude's totally fine.

978
00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:01,520
Speaker 4: I don't think there's any to worry about there. That's first.

979
00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:05,200
Speaker 9: Yeah, that's that's not even a blip on my radar.

980
00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:08,000
Speaker 9: I don't think it is on anybody else in the buildings. Yeah,

981
00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:12,160
Speaker 9: Steph's fine, And I'm glad you liked the pick of Kincaid.

982
00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:14,440
Speaker 9: You saw that game against usc the one we've been

983
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:17,640
Speaker 9: talking about. Yeah, that would that would make any football

984
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:19,719
Speaker 9: fans mouth salivate if they can get that guy on

985
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:22,400
Speaker 9: their team. So, yeah, he's a Buffalo Bill and we'll

986
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:24,120
Speaker 9: see if you can replicate that performance.

987
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 4: Break time for us here. When we come back, we

988
00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:31,960
Speaker 4: will tell you the latest on DeAndre Hopkins and his

989
00:52:32,080 --> 00:52:34,960
Speaker 4: chances of moving, because the GM of the Arizona Cardinals

990
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:37,600
Speaker 4: addressed that very subject late last night. Will tell you

991
00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:40,600
Speaker 4: what he said when we returned with more of your

992
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:43,440
Speaker 4: phone calls. Andrew and Rochester will lead us off in

993
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:46,319
Speaker 4: our number two here on One Bill's Live presented by

994
00:52:46,360 --> 00:53:17,920
Speaker 4: Kalida Health. It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

995
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:23,440
Speaker 1: This this One Bills Live presented by Callida Health.

996
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:26,680
Speaker 4: All Right, welcome to our number two of a special

997
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:30,560
Speaker 4: Draft day, two to three hour edition of One Bill's

998
00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:33,800
Speaker 4: Live on a Friday of all days. Chris Brown, Steve

999
00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:36,440
Speaker 4: Tasker with you. We'll get right back to the phones

1000
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:39,160
Speaker 4: in a hot second, but first we told you we

1001
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:43,400
Speaker 4: would explain what general manager of the Arizona Cardinals, Monte

1002
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:47,640
Speaker 4: Osenford had to say last night about possibly moving DeAndre

1003
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:52,920
Speaker 4: Hopkins in a trade. He said he doesn't foresee Hopkins

1004
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:57,320
Speaker 4: being traded during the draft and said he could absolutely

1005
00:53:57,360 --> 00:54:01,239
Speaker 4: be on the team this fall and said, quote, Deandre's

1006
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:06,600
Speaker 4: a Cardinal and we're moving forward. I don't know about you, Steve,

1007
00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:09,359
Speaker 4: but I think it's safe to say this guy isn't

1008
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:12,879
Speaker 4: moving this weekend. That's number one. Could have get moved

1009
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:15,239
Speaker 4: after the draft. Sure, there could be a team that

1010
00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:18,319
Speaker 4: you know, was looking for a receiver talent, didn't get

1011
00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:20,600
Speaker 4: it or didn't get what they thought they would land

1012
00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:24,719
Speaker 4: in the draft and say, hey, Arizona, about that big,

1013
00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:28,240
Speaker 4: tall receiver you got with twelve inch hands. I'm ready

1014
00:54:28,239 --> 00:54:31,480
Speaker 4: to talk. So it could happen afterwards, but it does

1015
00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:35,239
Speaker 4: not sound like Hopkins is being moved this weekend in

1016
00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:36,680
Speaker 4: any way, shape or form.

1017
00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:40,120
Speaker 9: It'll be interesting to see because I know that the

1018
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:41,920
Speaker 9: Cardinals be washing it just like you and I are.

1019
00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:43,720
Speaker 9: What happens if the Bills don't take a wide receiver

1020
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:45,040
Speaker 9: at all in this draft.

1021
00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:48,480
Speaker 4: I think I think it's a remote possibility. For this reason, Steve,

1022
00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:53,120
Speaker 4: the number one place where Bills fans wanted help in

1023
00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:55,879
Speaker 4: the passing game was where in the slot right right,

1024
00:54:56,239 --> 00:54:58,280
Speaker 4: where does Dalton kin k line up? More than anywhere

1025
00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:02,279
Speaker 4: else in the slot. Draft another guy to compromise his

1026
00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:03,440
Speaker 4: playing time in the slot.

1027
00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:05,319
Speaker 9: And think we'll think about it too. We also had

1028
00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:08,440
Speaker 9: Trent Sherfield, who came from the Miami Dolphins, who plays

1029
00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:10,880
Speaker 9: in the andy. He would he told us on this show.

1030
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:13,239
Speaker 9: They told him he was going to get a shot

1031
00:55:13,239 --> 00:55:16,480
Speaker 9: to play in that spot in the slot. Trent Sherfield,

1032
00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:23,120
Speaker 9: Deontay Hardy, who is who is a faster version of

1033
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:28,960
Speaker 9: Isaah mackenzie. You don't think he's that's what he played.

1034
00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:30,720
Speaker 4: In New Orleans.

1035
00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:33,320
Speaker 9: And you got Khalil Shakier, who, by the way, is

1036
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:35,000
Speaker 9: a draft pick of this club, who played, who caught

1037
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:37,200
Speaker 9: ten balls there and caught some in the playoff game

1038
00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:37,920
Speaker 9: against Miami.

1039
00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:40,520
Speaker 4: To hear this, I don't think there's a lot we're

1040
00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:42,799
Speaker 4: taking a receiver, not after taking right.

1041
00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:45,879
Speaker 9: So but my point is this, if they don't take

1042
00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:48,920
Speaker 9: a wide receiver in this draft, ringing. Maybe they do

1043
00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:51,960
Speaker 9: it purposely because it's a weak wide receiver draft to

1044
00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:57,040
Speaker 9: begin with, And then they already know the price for

1045
00:55:57,120 --> 00:56:01,640
Speaker 9: DeAndre Hopkins and they're gonna get this draft under their belt.

1046
00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:05,160
Speaker 9: Push the Arizona Cardinals pass the draft and then go

1047
00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:08,960
Speaker 9: to the Cardinals say, Okay, now we're ready. Here's what

1048
00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:11,120
Speaker 9: we Here's here's what you told us it was gonna cost.

1049
00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:15,319
Speaker 9: Here it is, and do it that way. If if

1050
00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:18,800
Speaker 9: indeed they're that hot on d Hop right, and I

1051
00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:21,279
Speaker 9: don't know they are, but certainly you and I are.

1052
00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:25,960
Speaker 9: I mean, the guy can play. So that's that's my

1053
00:56:26,080 --> 00:56:30,239
Speaker 9: scenario for DeAndre. Okay, if the Bills don't take a

1054
00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:34,759
Speaker 9: wide receiver in this draft, I'm gonna sit by my

1055
00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:38,520
Speaker 9: phone and I'm gonna watch it.

1056
00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:41,959
Speaker 4: Why they're gonna call you to play receiver.

1057
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:44,520
Speaker 9: They're gonna call me and say, Steve, we're thinking about

1058
00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:46,640
Speaker 9: doing exactly what you said to do by d Hop.

1059
00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:49,240
Speaker 9: We're gonna trade for him. It all worked out exactly

1060
00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:51,400
Speaker 9: like you said. Good job. That's what I'm gonna wait for.

1061
00:56:51,960 --> 00:56:53,640
Speaker 9: I mean, I do breath, but I'll wait.

1062
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:56,440
Speaker 4: I do think. I do think the urgency to get

1063
00:56:56,480 --> 00:57:01,760
Speaker 4: a receiver has been reduced by them drafting Dalton Kincaid

1064
00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:05,160
Speaker 4: because he does a lot of what they were looking

1065
00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:09,120
Speaker 4: for in the passing game already. So maybe you may

1066
00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:12,080
Speaker 4: wanna mentally prepare yourself for that. Your Bills fans still

1067
00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:14,319
Speaker 4: hoping that they take a wide out I don't think

1068
00:57:14,360 --> 00:57:17,520
Speaker 4: it's a lock like it may have been prior to

1069
00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:19,760
Speaker 4: what the choice was last night. Let's go back to

1070
00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:22,440
Speaker 4: the phones and lead off with Andrew in Rochester has promised,

1071
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:27,640
Speaker 4: what do you got for us? Andrew? Andrew? Are you there?

1072
00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:29,000
Speaker 5: Yes? Thank you here?

1073
00:57:29,080 --> 00:57:29,600
Speaker 3: Can you hear me?

1074
00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:31,080
Speaker 4: Yeah? I can hear you. What do you got for us?

1075
00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:32,600
Speaker 17: Thank you so much.

1076
00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:34,680
Speaker 2: I really appreciate being on the show.

1077
00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:36,439
Speaker 10: First of all, I wanted to say that.

1078
00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:38,720
Speaker 12: I hope they.

1079
00:57:38,720 --> 00:57:39,280
Speaker 10: Take Josh do.

1080
00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:44,400
Speaker 4: Okay, what is Andrew? I'm sorry you're you're breaking up

1081
00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:46,000
Speaker 4: on us and I'm gonna have to cut you loose

1082
00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:48,440
Speaker 4: because we can't even hear you now. You dropped out completely,

1083
00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:50,280
Speaker 4: even though I still see that you're there. But I

1084
00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:53,520
Speaker 4: heard you say you hope that the Bills draft Josh

1085
00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:56,440
Speaker 4: Downs tonight. Now, this is a guy that plays in

1086
00:57:56,520 --> 00:58:00,320
Speaker 4: the slot and he is strictly a slot receiver and

1087
00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:03,600
Speaker 4: nothing else. He is a tiny player at five to

1088
00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:08,000
Speaker 4: nine and change, and dynamic player. Don't get me wrong.

1089
00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:11,520
Speaker 4: Guy makes plays, but he's limited in where you can

1090
00:58:11,560 --> 00:58:15,760
Speaker 4: line him up, at least in my opinion, and knowing

1091
00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:17,720
Speaker 4: he might line up in the very same place where

1092
00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:20,000
Speaker 4: we just listed four other players who are already on

1093
00:58:20,040 --> 00:58:25,000
Speaker 4: the roster. I don't know that he makes sense. I

1094
00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:29,480
Speaker 4: don't know that he makes sense. Steve not now. I mean,

1095
00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:32,240
Speaker 4: if they took a defensive player in round one, I'm

1096
00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:36,600
Speaker 4: all ears on Josh Downs now for tonight. But Dalton

1097
00:58:36,640 --> 00:58:38,720
Speaker 4: kin Kane changes the conversation for me.

1098
00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:39,440
Speaker 9: I'm sorry.

1099
00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:42,960
Speaker 4: And there might be other people saying, what are you nuts?

1100
00:58:43,160 --> 00:58:46,160
Speaker 4: We still need another receiver? Well, how many guys are

1101
00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:52,400
Speaker 4: you lining up? Right? I don't know. I just I'm

1102
00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:55,200
Speaker 4: having a hard time finding a place for a second

1103
00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:57,920
Speaker 4: round receiver to line up on the offense.

1104
00:58:57,560 --> 00:59:01,720
Speaker 9: Now right, there's not there's not enough room. And I'm

1105
00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:03,880
Speaker 9: not saying that it's not an important spot or that

1106
00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:04,920
Speaker 9: they got guys.

1107
00:59:04,600 --> 00:59:06,280
Speaker 4: In it, but and I won't be upset if they

1108
00:59:06,320 --> 00:59:08,479
Speaker 4: do it, but I just I'm just saying it's less

1109
00:59:08,560 --> 00:59:09,800
Speaker 4: likely now in my opinion.

1110
00:59:10,080 --> 00:59:13,080
Speaker 9: I'll say this. It'll It'll let you know how all

1111
00:59:13,080 --> 00:59:15,720
Speaker 9: of a sudden we find out how dissatisfied they were

1112
00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:18,880
Speaker 9: with these guys because I was under the impression that

1113
00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:21,520
Speaker 9: they had and I and I feel this way. I

1114
00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:24,000
Speaker 9: like I told you this. I like the wide receiver

1115
00:59:24,080 --> 00:59:26,440
Speaker 9: room the way it is now. I think it's great.

1116
00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:28,120
Speaker 9: I think they can go out and win the division

1117
00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:30,320
Speaker 9: with the guys they got now, let alone with Josh

1118
00:59:30,360 --> 00:59:33,919
Speaker 9: Downs or or even Dalton Kin kaid. They can go

1119
00:59:34,120 --> 00:59:36,520
Speaker 9: win this thing the way with the guys they got,

1120
00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:39,280
Speaker 9: because we've seen them all play at a high level.

1121
00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:42,880
Speaker 9: And certainly that something like Gabe Davis was more It

1122
00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:44,800
Speaker 9: was a little more inconsistent last year than you'd like

1123
00:59:44,840 --> 00:59:47,320
Speaker 9: to see. The whole team dropped more passes than you'd

1124
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:50,400
Speaker 9: like to see. But they've got guys that have shown

1125
00:59:50,440 --> 00:59:52,880
Speaker 9: they can play the level that it's more than good

1126
00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:55,760
Speaker 9: enough to go. And I told you this too. Forget

1127
00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:57,640
Speaker 9: about this, well, they've never won the Super Bowl. Data

1128
00:59:57,640 --> 00:59:59,880
Speaker 9: and all this we got all these kids now, they're

1129
01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:02,440
Speaker 9: good enough. They got to play well on that day,

1130
01:00:02,480 --> 01:00:04,200
Speaker 9: but they're good enough to play and go to and

1131
01:00:04,240 --> 01:00:08,280
Speaker 9: win the super Bowl. Period. So I like the wide

1132
01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:11,400
Speaker 9: receiver room the way it is now, not that they

1133
01:00:11,400 --> 01:00:15,000
Speaker 9: can't add to it, but I would be surprised if

1134
01:00:15,040 --> 01:00:17,880
Speaker 9: they are not really satisfied with the guys they've got

1135
01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:19,840
Speaker 9: in the room now that they're gonna like keep throwing

1136
01:00:19,880 --> 01:00:22,600
Speaker 9: more and more assets at that room, Like there's something

1137
01:00:22,640 --> 01:00:24,360
Speaker 9: wrong with I don't think there's much wrong with it.

1138
01:00:24,640 --> 01:00:26,240
Speaker 9: Now there may be a great player out there, like

1139
01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:28,640
Speaker 9: a Kincaid who fills something they need. They only had

1140
01:00:28,640 --> 01:00:31,720
Speaker 9: two tight ends with you know who knew the offense

1141
01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:35,800
Speaker 9: here already and put you on the roster. Quinton Morrison

1142
01:00:36,320 --> 01:00:38,960
Speaker 9: and Dawson Knox. That's the only two tight as I had.

1143
01:00:39,200 --> 01:00:40,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, Tommy Sweeney's with the Giant.

1144
01:00:40,840 --> 01:00:43,560
Speaker 9: Right, so they need that guy. It's a little bit

1145
01:00:43,600 --> 01:00:45,400
Speaker 9: like the hole. They've got a middle linebacker. You don't

1146
01:00:45,400 --> 01:00:48,680
Speaker 9: have a guy there that that's gonna start. But I

1147
01:00:48,720 --> 01:00:51,919
Speaker 9: think it's more valuable because it's on the offensive side

1148
01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:55,320
Speaker 9: of the ball and you're in an arms race. So

1149
01:00:56,040 --> 01:00:59,439
Speaker 9: I'm I get it. Everybody wants more weapons for Josh,

1150
01:00:59,480 --> 01:01:02,280
Speaker 9: more weapons. You can't line up fifteen guys on offense.

1151
01:01:02,440 --> 01:01:05,880
Speaker 9: You can only go eleven and and I'm all for competition,

1152
01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:09,640
Speaker 9: no question about it. But we've seen how competitive it

1153
01:01:09,680 --> 01:01:11,640
Speaker 9: has been here in Buffalo. You got a guy like

1154
01:01:11,680 --> 01:01:13,840
Speaker 9: Isaiah Hodges who couldnt even get on an active roster,

1155
01:01:14,280 --> 01:01:16,560
Speaker 9: who goes and starts catching for three years, right, and

1156
01:01:16,600 --> 01:01:19,440
Speaker 9: he's now he's catching touchdowns for the Giants. I mean,

1157
01:01:19,520 --> 01:01:22,520
Speaker 9: like on a weekly basis. That's how good this roster is.

1158
01:01:23,080 --> 01:01:25,760
Speaker 9: It's not like they didn't see Isaiah Hodgins playing every day.

1159
01:01:25,880 --> 01:01:31,120
Speaker 9: They had four other guys that were better. So six

1160
01:01:31,240 --> 01:01:34,600
Speaker 9: other guys, right, And you may not like to hear it,

1161
01:01:34,640 --> 01:01:36,960
Speaker 9: and he may think, well, they didn't do it nine round. Yeah, okay,

1162
01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:38,680
Speaker 9: that you can make that argument. But they were watching

1163
01:01:38,720 --> 01:01:41,520
Speaker 9: them every single day, and they like this guy better

1164
01:01:41,560 --> 01:01:44,880
Speaker 9: than that guy, even though that guy played really well

1165
01:01:44,920 --> 01:01:51,960
Speaker 9: for another team. I get it. They're I mean, they

1166
01:01:52,120 --> 01:01:54,520
Speaker 9: like this wide receiver group. I think I think they

1167
01:01:54,560 --> 01:01:55,280
Speaker 9: really like it.

1168
01:01:55,200 --> 01:01:57,000
Speaker 4: Well, and I think they made the reason and they

1169
01:01:57,000 --> 01:01:59,560
Speaker 4: made it better in free agency to begin with. It's

1170
01:01:59,560 --> 01:02:01,480
Speaker 4: not like you're coming back to the table with the

1171
01:02:01,480 --> 01:02:04,800
Speaker 4: same cast. You did change the cast already in free agency.

1172
01:02:05,120 --> 01:02:07,680
Speaker 4: Now you've added a dynamic weapon at the tight end position,

1173
01:02:07,880 --> 01:02:10,360
Speaker 4: a guy that's gonna flex out a lot. He's very

1174
01:02:10,440 --> 01:02:13,280
Speaker 4: rarely going to be in line. I mean, Brandon said

1175
01:02:13,360 --> 01:02:15,600
Speaker 4: last night, he's gonna be the f tight end. You know,

1176
01:02:15,640 --> 01:02:17,760
Speaker 4: he's gonna be the move guy. He's gonna be split

1177
01:02:17,760 --> 01:02:20,080
Speaker 4: out wide, he's gonna be in the slot. He's gonna

1178
01:02:20,120 --> 01:02:21,960
Speaker 4: be you know, maybe lined up in the backfield sent

1179
01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:24,000
Speaker 4: in motion. So you can get a running start at

1180
01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:26,160
Speaker 4: the line of scrimmage, you know. I mean they're gonna

1181
01:02:26,160 --> 01:02:29,560
Speaker 4: be doing that stuff with him all the time. I mean,

1182
01:02:29,600 --> 01:02:32,960
Speaker 4: he's he's kind of a tight receiver. He's like a

1183
01:02:33,040 --> 01:02:36,360
Speaker 4: hybrid tight end receiver. He's a tight receiver. Might be

1184
01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:38,920
Speaker 4: the position that he plays. As we more and more

1185
01:02:38,920 --> 01:02:41,200
Speaker 4: move into this positionless football.

1186
01:02:42,000 --> 01:02:44,720
Speaker 9: He's not quite a Mike Gasiki for the Dolphins.

1187
01:02:44,800 --> 01:02:46,760
Speaker 4: No, he's a little more will more than that.

1188
01:02:46,720 --> 01:02:49,520
Speaker 9: He's a little more willing than Gasicki is in the

1189
01:02:49,520 --> 01:02:53,960
Speaker 9: physical part of the game. And he's bigger, heavier, yeah, thicker,

1190
01:02:54,760 --> 01:02:56,800
Speaker 9: and he's I don't know what I can't I don't

1191
01:02:56,840 --> 01:02:59,360
Speaker 9: know Gasicki's history with this, but he's probably played less

1192
01:02:59,360 --> 01:03:03,800
Speaker 9: football for sure at that position. So you know, Kincaid

1193
01:03:04,040 --> 01:03:07,919
Speaker 9: really has an upside, not only as a new draft pick,

1194
01:03:07,960 --> 01:03:10,640
Speaker 9: but also with his own game getting better and better

1195
01:03:11,200 --> 01:03:13,400
Speaker 9: and learning more about the nuances of it. So I'm

1196
01:03:13,560 --> 01:03:15,720
Speaker 9: I yeah, to.

1197
01:03:15,680 --> 01:03:18,360
Speaker 4: The phones we go and to Judy in Buffalo. What

1198
01:03:18,360 --> 01:03:19,160
Speaker 4: do you go for? Judy?

1199
01:03:21,880 --> 01:03:24,880
Speaker 18: First of all, I'm thrilled with this with his choice.

1200
01:03:25,320 --> 01:03:27,400
Speaker 18: You know, I may be dreaming, but wouldn't it be

1201
01:03:27,440 --> 01:03:32,080
Speaker 18: wonderfully if he turned into a Kelsey or Grandkowski. But

1202
01:03:32,120 --> 01:03:36,480
Speaker 18: my my real question is, uh, you know, how do

1203
01:03:36,560 --> 01:03:40,320
Speaker 18: they scout these people either? Is it like a West

1204
01:03:40,360 --> 01:03:43,680
Speaker 18: Coast team, and if so, would this be the same

1205
01:03:43,800 --> 01:03:47,560
Speaker 18: team that brought us Josh Allen? And my choice for

1206
01:03:47,760 --> 01:03:48,680
Speaker 18: night is Hyatt.

1207
01:03:49,080 --> 01:03:52,800
Speaker 4: You like Jalen Hyatt? Okay from Tennessee. Fair enough, Thanks

1208
01:03:52,840 --> 01:03:55,280
Speaker 4: Judy for the call, appreciate it. Yeah, just to explain

1209
01:03:55,360 --> 01:03:59,160
Speaker 4: the scouting process, the Bills have a collection of scouts

1210
01:03:59,200 --> 01:04:02,720
Speaker 4: that are scattered across the country and they work different

1211
01:04:02,800 --> 01:04:05,800
Speaker 4: areas of the country. They have a West Coast scout,

1212
01:04:06,080 --> 01:04:07,880
Speaker 4: they have a scout in the South, they have a

1213
01:04:07,920 --> 01:04:10,280
Speaker 4: scout in the Southwest, they have a Northeast scout, they

1214
01:04:10,320 --> 01:04:13,360
Speaker 4: have a Midwest scout, they have a Mountain Region scout

1215
01:04:13,480 --> 01:04:16,000
Speaker 4: you know in Colorado White, and they may have four

1216
01:04:16,080 --> 01:04:18,240
Speaker 4: or five states. They have to cover a lot of driving,

1217
01:04:19,880 --> 01:04:22,600
Speaker 4: so like, for example, the West Coast scout probably has

1218
01:04:23,040 --> 01:04:26,439
Speaker 4: the Pac twelve conference. That's a lot of ground to cover,

1219
01:04:27,160 --> 01:04:29,320
Speaker 4: and they probably have parts of the Mountain West Conference,

1220
01:04:29,880 --> 01:04:32,800
Speaker 4: and they probably have parts of the WAC Conference, which

1221
01:04:32,800 --> 01:04:35,840
Speaker 4: is where Josh Allen played. And they don't always stay

1222
01:04:35,880 --> 01:04:38,440
Speaker 4: in the same place year after year after year after year.

1223
01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:42,280
Speaker 4: Sometimes they get reassigned for various reasons. I know, the

1224
01:04:42,840 --> 01:04:45,680
Speaker 4: guy who was the Bill Southeast scout covering the SEC

1225
01:04:45,800 --> 01:04:48,000
Speaker 4: moved out west and they put a new guy in

1226
01:04:48,000 --> 01:04:52,040
Speaker 4: the Southeast for whatever. Maybe the guy that was their

1227
01:04:52,040 --> 01:04:54,240
Speaker 4: West Coast scout moved on and or got promoted to

1228
01:04:54,280 --> 01:04:57,160
Speaker 4: be a national scout. Because they also have national scouts

1229
01:04:58,520 --> 01:05:02,160
Speaker 4: like Mike Zabo, who covers the entire country. He goes

1230
01:05:02,160 --> 01:05:05,200
Speaker 4: to the bigger programs all around the country and scouts

1231
01:05:05,200 --> 01:05:09,080
Speaker 4: everybody just for an extra layer of opinion in addition

1232
01:05:09,120 --> 01:05:12,120
Speaker 4: to who the area scout is. But that's how they

1233
01:05:12,200 --> 01:05:14,600
Speaker 4: do it. They have guys scattered all across the country

1234
01:05:15,040 --> 01:05:16,560
Speaker 4: and they set up shop in that area of the

1235
01:05:16,560 --> 01:05:20,720
Speaker 4: country and they scout players from August to January and

1236
01:05:20,760 --> 01:05:23,320
Speaker 4: do nothing else for six days a week.

1237
01:05:23,760 --> 01:05:27,080
Speaker 9: Here's what happened. They the area of scouts and the

1238
01:05:27,160 --> 01:05:29,200
Speaker 9: national scouts go out and they and they get a

1239
01:05:29,400 --> 01:05:35,040
Speaker 9: handle on the best players and every team and who's

1240
01:05:35,040 --> 01:05:38,200
Speaker 9: on that team, who's athletically gifted enough, who's not ready,

1241
01:05:38,280 --> 01:05:41,760
Speaker 9: who's all that stuff. Then they pass that along to

1242
01:05:41,960 --> 01:05:48,280
Speaker 9: the personnel department, the college personnel department, and those guys

1243
01:05:48,320 --> 01:05:51,760
Speaker 9: distill through that, and then they'll say, Okay, we're looking

1244
01:05:51,800 --> 01:05:56,640
Speaker 9: at this, this and this. They'll have their national scouts

1245
01:05:56,760 --> 01:06:01,440
Speaker 9: and Brandon Bean and say, for instance, Ken Door and

1246
01:06:01,560 --> 01:06:05,320
Speaker 9: the quarterbacks coach. They'll watch the guy's film. They'll say,

1247
01:06:05,360 --> 01:06:06,960
Speaker 9: I want to watch all these quarterbacks. So they'll watch

1248
01:06:07,040 --> 01:06:08,840
Speaker 9: those guys films. And then when they start saying, yeah,

1249
01:06:08,840 --> 01:06:10,640
Speaker 9: this guy's good, I don't know if about this guy,

1250
01:06:10,880 --> 01:06:12,920
Speaker 9: and then they'll compare those notes with each other, what

1251
01:06:13,000 --> 01:06:15,520
Speaker 9: did you see? What I see? They have conversations about

1252
01:06:15,560 --> 01:06:17,600
Speaker 9: why they liked the guy and why they didn't, and

1253
01:06:17,760 --> 01:06:20,000
Speaker 9: each of them will try and talk the other into

1254
01:06:20,840 --> 01:06:22,880
Speaker 9: or out of their position.

1255
01:06:23,560 --> 01:06:25,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, based on fit the scheme they're.

1256
01:06:25,400 --> 01:06:28,560
Speaker 9: Writing, and give reasons and rationales for why they have

1257
01:06:28,600 --> 01:06:30,400
Speaker 9: the opinion they do. And then they'll go back and

1258
01:06:30,440 --> 01:06:32,400
Speaker 9: watch them again, and then they'll pass it along to

1259
01:06:32,560 --> 01:06:34,320
Speaker 9: the head coach if he wants to get a hand

1260
01:06:34,360 --> 01:06:37,640
Speaker 9: on it. So all of that stuff happens. Everybody gets

1261
01:06:37,680 --> 01:06:39,600
Speaker 9: to look at it, and all these guys do is

1262
01:06:39,640 --> 01:06:40,960
Speaker 9: watch film.

1263
01:06:41,320 --> 01:06:41,720
Speaker 4: I mean.

1264
01:06:43,320 --> 01:06:46,479
Speaker 9: Yeah, film critics would puke at the amount of film

1265
01:06:46,520 --> 01:06:47,200
Speaker 9: these guys watch.

1266
01:06:47,280 --> 01:06:50,200
Speaker 4: That's a big reason why you see differing grades for teams.

1267
01:06:50,280 --> 01:06:55,160
Speaker 4: On prospects because the scouting department goes to the coaching

1268
01:06:55,200 --> 01:06:59,040
Speaker 4: staff and says, Okay, you're running this scheme, what kind

1269
01:06:59,080 --> 01:07:02,480
Speaker 4: of player fits this? What type of receiver fits this?

1270
01:07:02,960 --> 01:07:05,200
Speaker 4: You know, And so there might be a scheme out

1271
01:07:05,240 --> 01:07:08,320
Speaker 4: there in the league where they say, I only want

1272
01:07:08,640 --> 01:07:12,120
Speaker 4: X receivers that are over six foot two. If they're

1273
01:07:12,200 --> 01:07:13,720
Speaker 4: under six to two, I don't want them because they

1274
01:07:13,760 --> 01:07:16,800
Speaker 4: won't work in this system. Okay, well, that's an important

1275
01:07:17,040 --> 01:07:19,480
Speaker 4: criteria for a scout to have when he's out there

1276
01:07:19,480 --> 01:07:23,760
Speaker 4: scouting who fits the Bills the best. It's probably an oversimplification,

1277
01:07:23,840 --> 01:07:26,160
Speaker 4: but I'm just trying to illustrate a point as to

1278
01:07:26,160 --> 01:07:28,600
Speaker 4: why the grades vary so widely. Because there might be

1279
01:07:28,600 --> 01:07:30,800
Speaker 4: three teams that say I don't use X receivers that

1280
01:07:30,800 --> 01:07:32,440
Speaker 4: are under six foot two. Or I'm a three to

1281
01:07:32,480 --> 01:07:34,760
Speaker 4: four defense and I don't want an outside linebacker unless

1282
01:07:34,760 --> 01:07:37,360
Speaker 4: they're six to four or taller, right, because I need

1283
01:07:37,400 --> 01:07:40,439
Speaker 4: a long player out there. So it's all of those things.

1284
01:07:40,480 --> 01:07:44,680
Speaker 4: The Bills, as we know, tend to like long corners, right.

1285
01:07:44,960 --> 01:07:46,840
Speaker 9: They might not be drafted.

1286
01:07:46,440 --> 01:07:48,640
Speaker 4: A five foot nine guy unless he's a nickel corner, and.

1287
01:07:48,640 --> 01:07:50,320
Speaker 9: The Bills run a four to three defense, so their

1288
01:07:50,360 --> 01:07:55,440
Speaker 9: defensive ends need to be long, like you know, and

1289
01:07:55,560 --> 01:07:58,640
Speaker 9: Los Rousseau and you know, I mean they got so

1290
01:07:58,680 --> 01:08:00,640
Speaker 9: that's kind of the way you say that. So that's

1291
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Speaker 9: what they do. And they have all these scouts in

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01:08:04,320 --> 01:08:07,680
Speaker 9: and they bring him into watch training camp too. They'll

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01:08:07,680 --> 01:08:10,640
Speaker 9: all get together and they'll watch the players on the roster,

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Speaker 9: and that's I've heard that people forget. I've heard organizations

1295
01:08:16,200 --> 01:08:18,280
Speaker 9: had to remind themselves they need to have the scouts

1296
01:08:18,320 --> 01:08:21,400
Speaker 9: in to see who's on the team now, you know,

1297
01:08:21,880 --> 01:08:23,719
Speaker 9: so they can watch it and see how he looks,

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01:08:23,760 --> 01:08:26,200
Speaker 9: what he runs like, why they like him, so that

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Speaker 9: when they go out into the field and around the country,

1300
01:08:29,720 --> 01:08:31,559
Speaker 9: they can say, oh, yeah, okay, I remember that. Yeah,

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01:08:31,640 --> 01:08:34,120
Speaker 9: he's got that skill set. Okay, So they can equate

1302
01:08:34,200 --> 01:08:37,800
Speaker 9: that with what they're asking Greg Russeau to do with this.

1303
01:08:38,479 --> 01:08:44,720
Speaker 9: You know, Bobby Sixpack from nowhere State, He's like, yeah,

1304
01:08:44,720 --> 01:08:46,960
Speaker 9: he compares to that pretty well, right, So that they

1305
01:08:47,000 --> 01:08:49,960
Speaker 9: can they get an idea of what exactly the coaches

1306
01:08:50,040 --> 01:08:51,960
Speaker 9: like about the guys they've got, so that they can

1307
01:08:52,000 --> 01:08:55,400
Speaker 9: accentuate it in the scouts to go out and find it.

1308
01:08:55,400 --> 01:09:02,680
Speaker 9: It's an enormous job. An enormous job, huge logistical problems.

1309
01:09:02,680 --> 01:09:04,040
Speaker 4: And it takes ten months to do it.

1310
01:09:04,120 --> 01:09:07,160
Speaker 9: And communications you gotta I mean, they got to sit

1311
01:09:07,200 --> 01:09:08,639
Speaker 9: down look at each other, you know, look at each

1312
01:09:08,640 --> 01:09:11,120
Speaker 9: other and say here's why I like this guy, A, B,

1313
01:09:11,240 --> 01:09:13,479
Speaker 9: C and D. And he'll say, well, wait a minute,

1314
01:09:13,520 --> 01:09:15,360
Speaker 9: I got a guy that's got A and B, but

1315
01:09:15,439 --> 01:09:17,439
Speaker 9: he's also got D and E and F.

1316
01:09:17,680 --> 01:09:20,799
Speaker 4: What do you think you know that? Maybe that's.

1317
01:09:22,960 --> 01:09:23,080
Speaker 3: So?

1318
01:09:23,120 --> 01:09:25,519
Speaker 4: It's so hopefully we've painted the picture for it.

1319
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Speaker 9: I mean, it's probably it's a little his finger painting,

1320
01:09:28,360 --> 01:09:30,559
Speaker 9: no question, but there's the picture.

1321
01:09:31,400 --> 01:09:33,760
Speaker 4: Back to the phones into James and Tonawanda, what do

1322
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Speaker 4: you got first, James, James, are you there, sir?

1323
01:09:39,439 --> 01:09:41,839
Speaker 13: I called in yesterday about Darnell.

1324
01:09:41,960 --> 01:09:45,599
Speaker 4: Wait, yes, Darnell right? Yeah?

1325
01:09:45,760 --> 01:09:46,439
Speaker 13: Can you hear me?

1326
01:09:46,640 --> 01:09:48,880
Speaker 4: I can hear you? Darnell right? Yeah? He went awfully early,

1327
01:09:48,920 --> 01:09:49,360
Speaker 4: didn't he?

1328
01:09:49,439 --> 01:09:49,639
Speaker 19: Yeah?

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01:09:49,680 --> 01:09:55,720
Speaker 13: I called, Yeah, I called about him yesterday saying how

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01:09:55,760 --> 01:09:58,760
Speaker 13: I wanted them more the tight end. I'm surprised, uh

1331
01:09:59,240 --> 01:10:01,559
Speaker 13: kaid was. I was very happy with him.

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01:10:01,800 --> 01:10:04,240
Speaker 4: Yeah. I think a lot of people and to.

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01:10:04,280 --> 01:10:08,320
Speaker 13: Those people that think we need a receiver, we don't

1334
01:10:08,320 --> 01:10:12,040
Speaker 13: need a receiver. We were the top second highest scoring offense.

1335
01:10:12,120 --> 01:10:17,360
Speaker 17: We have Davis Diggs. How do you secure all of them?

1336
01:10:17,920 --> 01:10:19,960
Speaker 10: We are good, we need offensive line.

1337
01:10:21,080 --> 01:10:24,799
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, you're speaking, you're speaking Steve language, James.

1338
01:10:24,840 --> 01:10:26,880
Speaker 9: I'm with you. I think it's time to get a

1339
01:10:26,880 --> 01:10:31,479
Speaker 9: big dude gets even if he's a depth piece, bringing

1340
01:10:31,479 --> 01:10:33,439
Speaker 9: a guy that can even if it isn't if it's

1341
01:10:33,439 --> 01:10:36,559
Speaker 9: a guard. And I'm not saying even if like they're

1342
01:10:36,560 --> 01:10:41,120
Speaker 9: they're less valuable. I'm just saying tackle. Yeah, tackles tend

1343
01:10:41,120 --> 01:10:43,200
Speaker 9: to go early because they're a little bit genetically different

1344
01:10:43,200 --> 01:10:47,439
Speaker 9: and they're hard to find. I'm I'm with you. I

1345
01:10:47,439 --> 01:10:49,960
Speaker 9: think that's the next step. Now, you can make a

1346
01:10:50,000 --> 01:10:55,320
Speaker 9: case to me about middle linebacker. But I am just

1347
01:10:55,479 --> 01:10:59,120
Speaker 9: as apt to go into the regular season with the

1348
01:10:59,160 --> 01:11:03,520
Speaker 9: guys that have been here already, like Specter and Dodson,

1349
01:11:04,600 --> 01:11:07,559
Speaker 9: AJ Klein the rest. I'm just as apt to go

1350
01:11:07,560 --> 01:11:09,920
Speaker 9: into the regular season with those guys and be happy

1351
01:11:09,920 --> 01:11:15,160
Speaker 9: about it. Rather than taking a guy who is too

1352
01:11:15,200 --> 01:11:17,920
Speaker 9: small to play the spot and just take a chance

1353
01:11:17,960 --> 01:11:19,880
Speaker 9: on just to get a guy, I'd rather have an

1354
01:11:19,920 --> 01:11:22,000
Speaker 9: offensive lineman's got a chance to push somebody and get

1355
01:11:22,000 --> 01:11:25,640
Speaker 9: on the field. Myself, even though that I agree with

1356
01:11:25,680 --> 01:11:29,120
Speaker 9: you that middle linebacker spot is tending to start to

1357
01:11:29,320 --> 01:11:30,439
Speaker 9: light up a little bit for me.

1358
01:11:33,280 --> 01:11:35,400
Speaker 4: We'll have to see what falls to the Bills at

1359
01:11:35,400 --> 01:11:38,360
Speaker 4: fifty nine, because it's unlikely with the with only four

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01:11:38,360 --> 01:11:40,160
Speaker 4: picks at their disposal, that they're going to be moving

1361
01:11:40,200 --> 01:11:40,599
Speaker 4: up tonight.

1362
01:11:40,680 --> 01:11:42,240
Speaker 9: Man Drew Sanders ain't gonna be there.

1363
01:11:42,280 --> 01:11:44,080
Speaker 4: I don't think I'm worried that he won't be, but

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Speaker 4: we'll see. Let's go to Richard in Rochester next. What

1365
01:11:47,000 --> 01:11:47,479
Speaker 4: do you got for us?

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Speaker 9: Richard?

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Speaker 20: Hey, appreciate you guys on TV. You know how often

1368
01:11:52,960 --> 01:11:57,560
Speaker 20: we hear this is a copycat league by fire. Kansas

1369
01:11:57,560 --> 01:12:00,000
Speaker 20: City used the most too ten.

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Speaker 4: Se Yeah, last year, you're right, and it didn't.

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Speaker 20: Work out too bad for New England over the last

1372
01:12:04,920 --> 01:12:08,599
Speaker 20: decade either. I tried to get through for the last

1373
01:12:08,600 --> 01:12:12,719
Speaker 20: couple of days. You guys are a hot ticket, and

1374
01:12:12,840 --> 01:12:15,719
Speaker 20: so I wanted to make my prediction, and I finally

1375
01:12:15,760 --> 01:12:19,480
Speaker 20: went on Facebook on the Bills mafia, and I posted

1376
01:12:19,560 --> 01:12:22,960
Speaker 20: my pick for tonight as a tight end and there

1377
01:12:22,960 --> 01:12:26,880
Speaker 20: were over two hundred responses, and ninety nine percent of

1378
01:12:26,920 --> 01:12:28,400
Speaker 20: them were not very kind.

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Speaker 4: You're saying for tonight Richard, do you think it's going

1380
01:12:32,640 --> 01:12:33,280
Speaker 4: to be a tight end?

1381
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Speaker 21: No?

1382
01:12:34,040 --> 01:12:36,400
Speaker 20: No, right after you guys went off the area.

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01:12:36,200 --> 01:12:37,160
Speaker 2: Yes, yesterday.

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Speaker 9: Okay, oh so you were out ahead of that, you go,

1385
01:12:41,200 --> 01:12:42,320
Speaker 9: and nobody liked it.

1386
01:12:42,439 --> 01:12:46,840
Speaker 20: Well, it was nasty. I got called names and idiots.

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01:12:46,920 --> 01:12:51,320
Speaker 4: Well poop on them, Richard, you were right repost it.

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01:12:51,720 --> 01:12:54,479
Speaker 9: Yeah, and I go back to me crow, go back

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01:12:54,520 --> 01:12:58,400
Speaker 9: to each one of them, says this year, so my.

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Speaker 20: Pick tonight, let's hear it. The Bills will not be

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01:13:03,840 --> 01:13:09,040
Speaker 20: making two picks tonight. Okay, that's that's my prediction.

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01:13:09,479 --> 01:13:11,000
Speaker 4: So what do you think is gonna happen? They're gonna

1393
01:13:11,000 --> 01:13:14,840
Speaker 4: trade down or something. Yes, so one of their picks

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01:13:14,880 --> 01:13:18,320
Speaker 4: they will move out of out of the two rounds tonight.

1395
01:13:18,840 --> 01:13:21,120
Speaker 4: And where will they be picking round four again?

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01:13:23,280 --> 01:13:25,680
Speaker 20: Well, no, I think they'll move one down and they

1397
01:13:25,760 --> 01:13:27,920
Speaker 20: they'll move down either in the second round of the

1398
01:13:27,960 --> 01:13:30,800
Speaker 20: third round and they'll pick up maybe a fifth or

1399
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Speaker 20: a sixth.

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Speaker 4: Okay, so they either they make one pick tonight and

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01:13:35,080 --> 01:13:38,280
Speaker 4: add a pick on day three. That's your point, Yep,

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01:13:38,360 --> 01:13:40,840
Speaker 4: that's all right, fair enough, Richard, thank you very much.

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01:13:40,880 --> 01:13:42,880
Speaker 4: We will see if you remain on a roll and

1404
01:13:42,960 --> 01:13:46,400
Speaker 4: go two for two. Good for you picking the tight end.

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01:13:46,720 --> 01:13:49,760
Speaker 4: Good for you, man. So it feels good when you're right.

1406
01:13:51,840 --> 01:13:54,360
Speaker 4: Not many of us are when we're guessing about the draft,

1407
01:13:54,400 --> 01:13:58,920
Speaker 4: but Richard had it. Let's squeeze in John in Stevensville

1408
01:13:58,920 --> 01:14:01,719
Speaker 4: here next, What do you have for us on guys?

1409
01:14:01,760 --> 01:14:04,840
Speaker 22: Thanks for taking my college big man. I just want

1410
01:14:04,880 --> 01:14:08,559
Speaker 22: to say that as great as it is to draft

1411
01:14:08,640 --> 01:14:13,320
Speaker 22: weapons for Josh, if he's on his backside, it doesn't matter.

1412
01:14:13,560 --> 01:14:14,000
Speaker 4: That's fair.

1413
01:14:14,240 --> 01:14:18,240
Speaker 22: And we got Mitch Morse, who I like Mitch Morse,

1414
01:14:18,479 --> 01:14:20,559
Speaker 22: but he's making a lot of money and he's got

1415
01:14:20,560 --> 01:14:25,880
Speaker 22: concussion history, and my fear is that he gets injured

1416
01:14:25,960 --> 01:14:28,200
Speaker 22: during the year and they have no one to replace them.

1417
01:14:28,240 --> 01:14:31,519
Speaker 22: And that's why I'm hoping they go after Steve Avila

1418
01:14:31,600 --> 01:14:35,720
Speaker 22: tonight for center. I think that he would be a

1419
01:14:35,800 --> 01:14:39,280
Speaker 22: key addition, good depth move and also someone for the

1420
01:14:39,320 --> 01:14:42,720
Speaker 22: future and if they're looking next year as well for

1421
01:14:42,880 --> 01:14:48,400
Speaker 22: money to sign Gabe Davis or whomever. Mitch's contract is

1422
01:14:48,439 --> 01:14:50,920
Speaker 22: a stumbling block, so if you can get rid of

1423
01:14:50,960 --> 01:14:54,599
Speaker 22: it after the year and Avila steps in as they're

1424
01:14:54,680 --> 01:14:58,280
Speaker 22: starting center, I think that's a wise choice on their behalf.

1425
01:14:58,400 --> 01:15:00,719
Speaker 4: All right, John, you make you make some good points there.

1426
01:15:01,160 --> 01:15:03,040
Speaker 4: I don't want to rain on your parade. I think

1427
01:15:03,080 --> 01:15:04,960
Speaker 4: Steve Aville is gonna be one of the first eight

1428
01:15:05,000 --> 01:15:08,280
Speaker 4: picks off the board tonight. Some people had him as

1429
01:15:08,360 --> 01:15:12,360
Speaker 4: a borderline late first rounder and one of the best

1430
01:15:12,439 --> 01:15:14,240
Speaker 4: guards in the entire draft. As a matter of fact,

1431
01:15:14,240 --> 01:15:16,799
Speaker 4: I like Steve Avilla a whole lot better than Osiris Torrance.

1432
01:15:18,120 --> 01:15:21,680
Speaker 4: I like Tipman and Avila better than Osiris Torrance, primarily

1433
01:15:21,720 --> 01:15:24,040
Speaker 4: because those two guys can also play center. As you

1434
01:15:24,080 --> 01:15:27,040
Speaker 4: point it out, I disagree with you that there isn't

1435
01:15:27,080 --> 01:15:30,200
Speaker 4: a replacement for Mitch Morris if he gets hurt. To me,

1436
01:15:30,479 --> 01:15:34,240
Speaker 4: that is Ryan Bates. You sign two guards in free agency,

1437
01:15:34,680 --> 01:15:40,600
Speaker 4: starting guards, Connor McGovern and David Edwards. I think that

1438
01:15:42,000 --> 01:15:46,280
Speaker 4: if for some reason Mitch Morris missed some time this season,

1439
01:15:47,000 --> 01:15:50,880
Speaker 4: I think Bates goes to center and Edwards steps on

1440
01:15:50,920 --> 01:15:54,360
Speaker 4: the field at right guard for Baits. If Edwards doesn't

1441
01:15:54,400 --> 01:15:57,280
Speaker 4: beat Baits out outright for the starting right guard spot

1442
01:15:57,320 --> 01:16:00,439
Speaker 4: to begin with, you have I think more depth and

1443
01:16:00,560 --> 01:16:05,000
Speaker 4: people realize on the offensive interior with the acquisition of McGovern,

1444
01:16:05,080 --> 01:16:07,920
Speaker 4: who plugs right in and left guard, and David Edwards,

1445
01:16:07,960 --> 01:16:10,599
Speaker 4: who is an accomplished starter in his own right. There's

1446
01:16:10,640 --> 01:16:12,840
Speaker 4: gonna be a fierce competition for the starting right guard

1447
01:16:12,840 --> 01:16:15,479
Speaker 4: spot Steve, and whoever doesn't get that spot is the

1448
01:16:15,520 --> 01:16:17,599
Speaker 4: swing center guard right.

1449
01:16:17,680 --> 01:16:20,760
Speaker 9: So that could be baits And I'm with you. I mean,

1450
01:16:20,800 --> 01:16:23,200
Speaker 9: I like the idea of an oligneman. But Brownie's right.

1451
01:16:23,240 --> 01:16:27,320
Speaker 9: I mean, they've got some guys in the room already,

1452
01:16:27,360 --> 01:16:28,599
Speaker 9: and some of them have some pretty good.

1453
01:16:28,520 --> 01:16:30,960
Speaker 4: Chops and ike. Butcker still here is a bad option.

1454
01:16:31,200 --> 01:16:33,920
Speaker 9: Yeah, you can look at I think it's more about

1455
01:16:34,280 --> 01:16:37,480
Speaker 9: here's the list again. He got Steve Avila, Joe Tipman, Osiris,

1456
01:16:37,520 --> 01:16:43,439
Speaker 9: Torrance Bergeron from Syracuse, and Cody Mack and John Michael Schmidtz.

1457
01:16:44,240 --> 01:16:47,679
Speaker 9: All those guys. There's the top four of those guys,

1458
01:16:47,680 --> 01:16:51,639
Speaker 9: al Villa, Tipman, Torrents and Schmidts. They're they're centers and guards.

1459
01:16:54,479 --> 01:16:57,720
Speaker 9: I would say it's gonna be the other guy. The

1460
01:16:57,800 --> 01:17:01,160
Speaker 9: tackles that go before them, like Burge, Run and Malk.

1461
01:17:01,439 --> 01:17:03,120
Speaker 4: I think a lot of people think Mauk's a guard,

1462
01:17:03,160 --> 01:17:05,799
Speaker 4: though he was too. I agree, it's a tackle in college.

1463
01:17:05,920 --> 01:17:08,519
Speaker 9: Here's the thing too, Joe Tipman and Mauk, both of

1464
01:17:08,520 --> 01:17:11,320
Speaker 9: them are six five guys, So they could play tackle

1465
01:17:11,520 --> 01:17:16,960
Speaker 9: because they got the length. A Vila is a he's

1466
01:17:17,000 --> 01:17:19,800
Speaker 9: a road grader, he is a he is an absolute

1467
01:17:19,920 --> 01:17:22,160
Speaker 9: beast down inside. I mean he really is. He's like

1468
01:17:22,200 --> 01:17:23,360
Speaker 9: a warthog down in there.

1469
01:17:23,400 --> 01:17:23,559
Speaker 2: Man.

1470
01:17:23,600 --> 01:17:24,679
Speaker 4: He shaped like a fire hider.

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01:17:24,840 --> 01:17:25,120
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1472
01:17:25,160 --> 01:17:29,040
Speaker 9: So he's a good player. Those guys. If any of

1473
01:17:29,080 --> 01:17:31,479
Speaker 9: those guys are available, those centers guards that I just mentioned,

1474
01:17:31,520 --> 01:17:33,560
Speaker 9: those top four, I'm all about it.

1475
01:17:33,600 --> 01:17:36,240
Speaker 4: At fifty nine, break time for us, but your phone

1476
01:17:36,240 --> 01:17:39,479
Speaker 4: calls continue. When we return, Joe and Clarence will lead

1477
01:17:39,560 --> 01:17:41,200
Speaker 4: us off and we'll get to the others holding at

1478
01:17:41,240 --> 01:17:43,000
Speaker 4: eight h three oh five fifty next year on one

1479
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Speaker 4: Bill's Live Stay tuned.

1480
01:17:53,520 --> 01:17:54,200
Speaker 5: Deer Dalton.

1481
01:17:55,280 --> 01:17:58,240
Speaker 21: It seems like only yesterday the dad was throwing you

1482
01:17:58,320 --> 01:18:02,760
Speaker 21: footballs while you were on the trampoline, never wanting to

1483
01:18:02,800 --> 01:18:06,639
Speaker 21: stop until the sun set and it was dark outside.

1484
01:18:06,760 --> 01:18:09,920
Speaker 21: And now you are about to be drafted in the NFL.

1485
01:18:10,560 --> 01:18:14,880
Speaker 21: What an accomplishment. Over the years, we have enjoyed watching

1486
01:18:14,920 --> 01:18:20,280
Speaker 21: you play lots of sports soccer, baseball, volleyball, basketball, and football.

1487
01:18:21,080 --> 01:18:23,880
Speaker 21: They have all helped you develop into the athlete that

1488
01:18:23,960 --> 01:18:28,120
Speaker 21: you are today. We appreciate your hard work and dedication

1489
01:18:28,720 --> 01:18:31,200
Speaker 21: and are proud of the young man you have become.

1490
01:18:32,080 --> 01:18:34,640
Speaker 21: We know you will bring the same work ethic to

1491
01:18:34,720 --> 01:18:38,720
Speaker 21: the NFL. We will always be here to support you

1492
01:18:38,920 --> 01:18:42,599
Speaker 21: as you move forward with your future dreams, and never

1493
01:18:42,680 --> 01:18:44,720
Speaker 21: forget how much your family loves you.

1494
01:18:45,040 --> 01:18:46,479
Speaker 9: Love mom and dad.

1495
01:18:46,760 --> 01:18:47,799
Speaker 21: Love mom and dad.

1496
01:18:50,040 --> 01:18:53,839
Speaker 11: With the twenty pit pike into twenty twenty three NFL Draft,

1497
01:18:54,760 --> 01:19:00,800
Speaker 11: the Buffalo Bills select Dalton Concai, tight end Utah.

1498
01:19:00,840 --> 01:19:04,479
Speaker 4: All right, that was Dalton Kincaid's mom with an open

1499
01:19:04,560 --> 01:19:08,280
Speaker 4: letter to Dalton himself just about how far he's come.

1500
01:19:08,920 --> 01:19:10,760
Speaker 4: And Steve and I were just talking about it while

1501
01:19:10,760 --> 01:19:15,599
Speaker 4: we were listening to it. Multi sport athlete. This kid

1502
01:19:15,640 --> 01:19:21,880
Speaker 4: played just about everything under the sun. Soccer, football, basketball,

1503
01:19:22,080 --> 01:19:26,400
Speaker 4: He was a snowboarder. The kid did everything, and I

1504
01:19:26,520 --> 01:19:29,720
Speaker 4: will jump on the table for multi sport athletes. I

1505
01:19:29,800 --> 01:19:32,800
Speaker 4: understand the specialization in sports these days. If you want

1506
01:19:32,840 --> 01:19:35,840
Speaker 4: to get far, you got to specialize sooner rather than later.

1507
01:19:36,840 --> 01:19:40,400
Speaker 4: This kid played basketball almost all the way through high school,

1508
01:19:40,439 --> 01:19:42,800
Speaker 4: didn't play football till like his senior year in high school.

1509
01:19:43,360 --> 01:19:46,880
Speaker 4: But because he played all of those sports, his body

1510
01:19:46,960 --> 01:19:49,400
Speaker 4: was ready to adapt to football that much faster at

1511
01:19:49,400 --> 01:19:51,640
Speaker 4: such a late age. He's fortunate he comes from an

1512
01:19:51,680 --> 01:19:57,280
Speaker 4: athletic family. But multi sport athletes, man, it helps you excel.

1513
01:19:57,680 --> 01:20:00,840
Speaker 9: I think it's a mistake to have kids specialize in

1514
01:20:00,880 --> 01:20:06,280
Speaker 9: one sport too early in life. I played football, basketball,

1515
01:20:06,360 --> 01:20:09,479
Speaker 9: and baseball when I was growing up, ran track and

1516
01:20:09,520 --> 01:20:14,320
Speaker 9: field in high school. You just mix all those sports together,

1517
01:20:14,520 --> 01:20:17,240
Speaker 9: you know, and they help you. Each one helps you

1518
01:20:17,280 --> 01:20:19,400
Speaker 9: in certain ways that the others, you know, don't train

1519
01:20:19,479 --> 01:20:22,439
Speaker 9: you to do. And I don't know it helped me,

1520
01:20:22,520 --> 01:20:25,640
Speaker 9: I think later in life to once I did specialize

1521
01:20:25,640 --> 01:20:29,200
Speaker 9: and got to college, I was better prepared for it

1522
01:20:29,360 --> 01:20:34,879
Speaker 9: athletically and being aware on the field, all of that stuff.

1523
01:20:35,080 --> 01:20:38,720
Speaker 9: So I'm a big fan of it, I think, and

1524
01:20:38,800 --> 01:20:40,599
Speaker 9: I get it. Some kids love the sport and they

1525
01:20:40,640 --> 01:20:42,160
Speaker 9: do it and they want to do it, and that's good.

1526
01:20:44,360 --> 01:20:48,280
Speaker 9: But I think, you know, kids going out and playing

1527
01:20:48,640 --> 01:20:52,280
Speaker 9: you know, ninety games of soccer or ninety games of

1528
01:20:52,320 --> 01:20:52,920
Speaker 9: hockey or.

1529
01:20:53,680 --> 01:20:54,720
Speaker 4: Valuable I think it's a little bit.

1530
01:20:54,760 --> 01:20:57,000
Speaker 9: I think it's more about the coaches and sustaining a

1531
01:20:57,080 --> 01:20:59,599
Speaker 9: league that exists rather than helping the kids.

1532
01:20:59,479 --> 01:21:02,160
Speaker 4: Out of it. Might be some of it. Let's get

1533
01:21:02,160 --> 01:21:04,799
Speaker 4: to the phones, though, we're asking you today your thoughts

1534
01:21:04,800 --> 01:21:07,720
Speaker 4: on the Kincaid pick number one, and who do you

1535
01:21:07,840 --> 01:21:11,920
Speaker 4: have targeted for the Bills tonight in rounds two and three?

1536
01:21:12,600 --> 01:21:14,120
Speaker 4: Joe and Clarence kicks us off.

1537
01:21:14,120 --> 01:21:14,519
Speaker 9: What you got?

1538
01:21:14,560 --> 01:21:19,040
Speaker 23: Joe, Hey, guys, I am as excited now as I've

1539
01:21:19,040 --> 01:21:24,720
Speaker 23: been during the season, pleasantly surprised as many people for Kincaid,

1540
01:21:25,400 --> 01:21:27,400
Speaker 23: and I know he can do everything it seems, but

1541
01:21:27,520 --> 01:21:31,120
Speaker 23: I really look at him as a big slot We

1542
01:21:31,240 --> 01:21:35,360
Speaker 23: really could use that. The second point is, I don't

1543
01:21:35,320 --> 01:21:38,840
Speaker 23: know it's that linebacker available. There's like one linebacker I like,

1544
01:21:39,000 --> 01:21:39,759
Speaker 23: this is Campbell.

1545
01:21:39,840 --> 01:21:43,559
Speaker 24: I think I think he fills a need. But other

1546
01:21:43,640 --> 01:21:46,760
Speaker 24: than that, if he's not available, then I would go

1547
01:21:47,280 --> 01:21:48,360
Speaker 24: on offensive line.

1548
01:21:48,600 --> 01:21:50,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, Joe, I hate to tell you, but he went

1549
01:21:50,720 --> 01:21:53,479
Speaker 4: a lot earlier than expected. Last night. He went pick

1550
01:21:53,520 --> 01:21:56,880
Speaker 4: eighteen to Detroit, which shocked just about everybody. I think

1551
01:21:56,920 --> 01:21:59,960
Speaker 4: the only pick that trump that from a surprise perspective

1552
01:22:00,400 --> 01:22:04,320
Speaker 4: was Detroit's other pick, Jamiir Gibbs picked twelve, so they

1553
01:22:04,560 --> 01:22:07,599
Speaker 4: they kind of yeah, so all right, so you're on

1554
01:22:07,680 --> 01:22:09,839
Speaker 4: board for what you say, offensive line?

1555
01:22:10,960 --> 01:22:13,880
Speaker 23: No, no, well that other linebackers and Drew Sanders.

1556
01:22:13,960 --> 01:22:15,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's still out there. I don't know if he's

1557
01:22:15,560 --> 01:22:18,280
Speaker 4: getting down to fifty nine, but cross your fingers and toes.

1558
01:22:19,439 --> 01:22:20,360
Speaker 23: Yeah, I would like him.

1559
01:22:20,400 --> 01:22:22,160
Speaker 24: I wouldn't even mind trading up to get him.

1560
01:22:22,160 --> 01:22:23,679
Speaker 23: I think that's a hole we have.

1561
01:22:24,000 --> 01:22:24,800
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, I would.

1562
01:22:24,840 --> 01:22:26,320
Speaker 9: I would agree with that. I told you know, I

1563
01:22:26,320 --> 01:22:29,160
Speaker 9: said in the last segments that middle linebacker's bus try

1564
01:22:29,200 --> 01:22:31,240
Speaker 9: and starting to light up like a light bulb when

1565
01:22:31,240 --> 01:22:35,680
Speaker 9: you look at the roster, and yeah, it's you need

1566
01:22:35,720 --> 01:22:36,560
Speaker 9: to put some shade on that.

1567
01:22:39,280 --> 01:22:42,200
Speaker 4: Uh, let's move along. Let's go to Reshim in Buffalo.

1568
01:22:42,280 --> 01:22:44,000
Speaker 4: We got first Rashim.

1569
01:22:44,600 --> 01:22:45,479
Speaker 25: Hey, how you doing?

1570
01:22:45,520 --> 01:22:45,680
Speaker 3: Man?

1571
01:22:45,720 --> 01:22:48,479
Speaker 25: The other guy was right. You guys are hot, ticking.

1572
01:22:48,520 --> 01:22:49,960
Speaker 25: I've been trying to get on and say this for

1573
01:22:50,040 --> 01:22:50,800
Speaker 25: a couple of days.

1574
01:22:50,840 --> 01:22:52,920
Speaker 4: Now, well, we're glad you got through what you got

1575
01:22:52,920 --> 01:22:53,280
Speaker 4: for us.

1576
01:22:53,520 --> 01:22:57,639
Speaker 25: Man. Listen, all right, I'm a lifelong billspin. I've never

1577
01:22:57,800 --> 01:23:02,799
Speaker 25: liked another football team. I'm making an open air please

1578
01:23:03,280 --> 01:23:08,000
Speaker 25: to Terry and Kim Pagoula, Brandon Bean in the Bills organization.

1579
01:23:09,439 --> 01:23:12,400
Speaker 25: If you never did anything for Rasciane in his life,

1580
01:23:13,000 --> 01:23:18,280
Speaker 25: go get DeAndre Hopkins. We will ride them to receivers

1581
01:23:18,400 --> 01:23:20,080
Speaker 25: all the way to the Super Bowl. I don't care

1582
01:23:20,160 --> 01:23:24,000
Speaker 25: what the defense do. If you had never done anything

1583
01:23:24,040 --> 01:23:26,599
Speaker 25: for Rasciane in your life, please go get the all.

1584
01:23:26,640 --> 01:23:29,240
Speaker 4: Right, So this is an open letter to the Pagoulas

1585
01:23:29,280 --> 01:23:32,160
Speaker 4: from Rashim in Buffalo saying, come.

1586
01:23:32,960 --> 01:23:37,360
Speaker 25: I've got something else. If they get him and we

1587
01:23:37,400 --> 01:23:41,479
Speaker 25: don't go to the super Bowl, I'm offering twelve months

1588
01:23:41,479 --> 01:23:44,960
Speaker 25: of free labor, part time, of course, twelve months of

1589
01:23:45,040 --> 01:23:47,679
Speaker 25: free labor if we don't go to the super Bowl.

1590
01:23:48,040 --> 01:23:51,479
Speaker 4: Book it okay? There it is Rashim with his open

1591
01:23:51,560 --> 01:23:57,120
Speaker 4: letter to the Pegulas. Please please please trade for DeAndre Hopkins.

1592
01:23:57,120 --> 01:23:59,559
Speaker 4: If you do, you're going to the super Bowl. Lock

1593
01:23:59,640 --> 01:24:03,719
Speaker 4: it down. And if for some crazy circumstance the Bills

1594
01:24:03,760 --> 01:24:06,400
Speaker 4: don't go to the super Bowl, Rashim is offering himself

1595
01:24:06,439 --> 01:24:10,000
Speaker 4: as a part time laborer for the next calendar year

1596
01:24:10,400 --> 01:24:14,439
Speaker 4: at no cost to the Pegula's Rashime. That's a bold offer,

1597
01:24:14,760 --> 01:24:18,120
Speaker 4: because not for nothing. There's a lot of construction that's

1598
01:24:18,120 --> 01:24:20,719
Speaker 4: got to go on across the street not too distant future.

1599
01:24:20,760 --> 01:24:23,280
Speaker 4: You may be careful what your You may want to

1600
01:24:23,320 --> 01:24:25,080
Speaker 4: change your number, they.

1601
01:24:24,960 --> 01:24:28,840
Speaker 9: May change your shovels. They start digging. We'll see, and

1602
01:24:28,880 --> 01:24:32,640
Speaker 9: we'll see in twelve months.

1603
01:24:31,040 --> 01:24:36,200
Speaker 4: Here's your shovel, Regime, goods for coming and for the offer. Uh,

1604
01:24:36,280 --> 01:24:41,439
Speaker 4: your your time up will be May five. Holy cow,

1605
01:24:41,840 --> 01:24:43,559
Speaker 4: careful regime. Thanks for the call.

1606
01:24:43,640 --> 01:24:46,280
Speaker 9: I forgot about that. Yeah, they got got a project

1607
01:24:46,360 --> 01:24:47,120
Speaker 9: you can help.

1608
01:24:46,920 --> 01:24:51,280
Speaker 4: With somewhere for sure. Uh, let's go to Austin in

1609
01:24:51,360 --> 01:24:53,080
Speaker 4: Tampa next. What do you got for his Austin?

1610
01:24:54,320 --> 01:24:56,360
Speaker 19: All right, so my my call. I'm actually going to

1611
01:24:56,479 --> 01:25:01,920
Speaker 19: contradict the previous caller. Okay, I don't necessarily think we

1612
01:25:02,000 --> 01:25:05,200
Speaker 19: need Hopkins right now. I think our receiver room was

1613
01:25:05,240 --> 01:25:08,439
Speaker 19: fine if you go by the numbers, and I believe

1614
01:25:08,479 --> 01:25:11,559
Speaker 19: that we upgraded like big time with Hardy in the

1615
01:25:11,600 --> 01:25:14,320
Speaker 19: slot and now the kin kid Kid and then you

1616
01:25:14,360 --> 01:25:16,760
Speaker 19: know James Cook getting more looks out of the backfield.

1617
01:25:17,320 --> 01:25:22,360
Speaker 19: But with that being said, if preseason comes along, and

1618
01:25:22,439 --> 01:25:24,519
Speaker 19: even early in the regular season and it's a parent

1619
01:25:24,720 --> 01:25:27,920
Speaker 19: that we do need to upgrade a receiver, there are

1620
01:25:28,080 --> 01:25:30,360
Speaker 19: other options available at that time. And one name that

1621
01:25:30,479 --> 01:25:33,439
Speaker 19: keeps coming back to me is Mike Evans from the

1622
01:25:33,479 --> 01:25:34,280
Speaker 19: Tampa Bay Bucks.

1623
01:25:35,120 --> 01:25:36,160
Speaker 15: Thanks for taking my call.

1624
01:25:36,320 --> 01:25:40,519
Speaker 4: Okay, And that's Austin and Tampa. Who's talking about Mike Evans.

1625
01:25:41,520 --> 01:25:45,720
Speaker 4: I want to say I got to remember this now,

1626
01:25:45,720 --> 01:25:47,280
Speaker 4: and I don't remember it off the top of my head,

1627
01:25:47,320 --> 01:25:49,479
Speaker 4: so I probably shouldn't say. I'm I don't know why

1628
01:25:49,520 --> 01:25:51,400
Speaker 4: this is in my head that Mike Evans is in

1629
01:25:51,439 --> 01:25:54,479
Speaker 4: the final year of his contract. I'll double check it

1630
01:25:54,520 --> 01:25:57,840
Speaker 4: online while we take the next call. But I seem

1631
01:25:57,880 --> 01:25:59,519
Speaker 4: to remember that. I don't know if that makes him

1632
01:25:59,560 --> 01:26:02,760
Speaker 4: expend per se. But if Tampa's season is in the toilet,

1633
01:26:02,960 --> 01:26:07,320
Speaker 4: we're heading there before the trade deadline. I suppose that

1634
01:26:07,479 --> 01:26:09,400
Speaker 4: would be an option if you fail heeded it.

1635
01:26:09,600 --> 01:26:13,280
Speaker 9: He's got a twenty one million dollar dead cap hit.

1636
01:26:13,320 --> 01:26:16,519
Speaker 9: His cap hit is twenty three million this year. This year,

1637
01:26:16,800 --> 01:26:19,000
Speaker 9: I would match last year. I would imagine that might

1638
01:26:19,040 --> 01:26:20,960
Speaker 9: be the last year of his hold. On a second,

1639
01:26:21,040 --> 01:26:22,680
Speaker 9: let me see if I can.

1640
01:26:24,400 --> 01:26:26,840
Speaker 4: And me while you do that, I'm gonna pull ups.

1641
01:26:27,160 --> 01:26:31,240
Speaker 9: It's a five year eighty two million expires goes through

1642
01:26:32,240 --> 01:26:33,120
Speaker 9: twenty twenty four.

1643
01:26:34,040 --> 01:26:36,160
Speaker 4: He's got one more year after this year. All right,

1644
01:26:36,640 --> 01:26:38,200
Speaker 4: I knew it was coming close to the end. There.

1645
01:26:38,280 --> 01:26:39,920
Speaker 4: Let's go to Mark and West senecon X. What do

1646
01:26:39,960 --> 01:26:40,679
Speaker 4: you got first? Mark?

1647
01:26:41,200 --> 01:26:45,439
Speaker 26: Hi, guys, I'm not gonna pooh pooh the pick, but

1648
01:26:45,640 --> 01:26:48,040
Speaker 26: I'm a guy who does not like running back or

1649
01:26:48,439 --> 01:26:52,400
Speaker 26: or tight end in the first round. Okay, but obviously

1650
01:26:52,439 --> 01:26:55,160
Speaker 26: Brandon Bean has earned the benefit of the doubt from

1651
01:26:55,240 --> 01:26:58,280
Speaker 26: all Bills fans up until this point, and he shows

1652
01:26:58,320 --> 01:27:01,439
Speaker 26: again why he is the great personal guy that he

1653
01:27:01,600 --> 01:27:04,240
Speaker 26: is when he goes and gets a top ten level

1654
01:27:04,320 --> 01:27:09,120
Speaker 26: talent of the whole draft at pick twenty five. I mean,

1655
01:27:10,120 --> 01:27:13,439
Speaker 26: as much as I don't, really, I'm not really excited

1656
01:27:13,439 --> 01:27:16,719
Speaker 26: about a tight end, but this guy's skill set shows

1657
01:27:16,800 --> 01:27:20,719
Speaker 26: obviously he's not a traditional tight end. He's so he's

1658
01:27:20,800 --> 01:27:23,160
Speaker 26: I mean, obviously at the point they picked him, he's

1659
01:27:23,200 --> 01:27:26,240
Speaker 26: probably the best pass catcher who was available at that

1660
01:27:26,360 --> 01:27:28,599
Speaker 26: point in time, and maybe the best in the draft.

1661
01:27:29,160 --> 01:27:31,280
Speaker 26: It may play out to be that. All being said,

1662
01:27:32,160 --> 01:27:34,400
Speaker 26: so I'm getting more on board with the pick as

1663
01:27:34,439 --> 01:27:37,559
Speaker 26: I'm listening to people, But I wasn't really excited at

1664
01:27:37,560 --> 01:27:42,800
Speaker 26: first number two. I'm curious as to what more Mitch

1665
01:27:42,880 --> 01:27:47,719
Speaker 26: Morris's contract situation is the reason I'm asking. I'm with Steve.

1666
01:27:48,120 --> 01:27:51,000
Speaker 26: I'm even on board for an interior aligneman. Is there

1667
01:27:51,040 --> 01:27:55,719
Speaker 26: any possibility that there's even a plug in, play guard

1668
01:27:55,840 --> 01:27:59,719
Speaker 26: centered type guy when we get on the board tonight,

1669
01:27:59,800 --> 01:28:02,640
Speaker 26: Even if we move up a little bit. I was

1670
01:28:02,640 --> 01:28:06,240
Speaker 26: thinking about getting rid of that salary that he has. Yeah,

1671
01:28:06,320 --> 01:28:08,599
Speaker 26: I mean if every you know, I mean everybody's talking

1672
01:28:08,600 --> 01:28:11,760
Speaker 26: about de hop DP tyop. I got a feeling that

1673
01:28:11,800 --> 01:28:13,840
Speaker 26: Mitch is not long for the team much more after

1674
01:28:13,880 --> 01:28:14,240
Speaker 26: this year.

1675
01:28:14,280 --> 01:28:14,679
Speaker 4: Anyway.

1676
01:28:16,080 --> 01:28:19,000
Speaker 26: As far as his contract situation, yeah, all right, I

1677
01:28:19,040 --> 01:28:20,760
Speaker 26: know it's been extended.

1678
01:28:20,520 --> 01:28:23,559
Speaker 4: Right right, and it's been restructured a couple of times too, Mark,

1679
01:28:23,600 --> 01:28:28,240
Speaker 4: And thanks for the calls. His contract runs through next season.

1680
01:28:29,040 --> 01:28:30,920
Speaker 4: His cap hit this year is the same as it

1681
01:28:31,000 --> 01:28:33,880
Speaker 4: is next year. It's eleven three six this year, it's

1682
01:28:33,920 --> 01:28:36,920
Speaker 4: eleven five next year, so it's pretty much the same.

1683
01:28:37,479 --> 01:28:40,520
Speaker 4: His base salaries in the six six six ' eight territory.

1684
01:28:40,880 --> 01:28:43,360
Speaker 4: And I'm just going to say this, Mitch Morris was

1685
01:28:43,400 --> 01:28:46,479
Speaker 4: the most consistent offensive lineman on that five man unit

1686
01:28:46,560 --> 01:28:49,560
Speaker 4: last season, and it's not even close. I thought he

1687
01:28:49,600 --> 01:28:51,880
Speaker 4: had his best season in a Bill's uniform last year.

1688
01:28:52,200 --> 01:28:55,559
Speaker 4: And he's only thirty one years old, So I think

1689
01:28:55,560 --> 01:28:58,719
Speaker 4: he plays out the contract quite frankly, and I would

1690
01:28:58,720 --> 01:29:01,160
Speaker 4: look elsewhere to try to find money, not Mitch.

1691
01:29:01,360 --> 01:29:03,000
Speaker 9: But as for your other point, I think there if

1692
01:29:03,200 --> 01:29:05,800
Speaker 9: if the guy's on that graphic, we looked at about

1693
01:29:05,800 --> 01:29:09,800
Speaker 9: the if there's if those guys are there. Yes, there's

1694
01:29:09,840 --> 01:29:12,800
Speaker 9: a guy plug and play there on the board. But

1695
01:29:13,000 --> 01:29:17,760
Speaker 9: Brownie's right, Mitch Morris has earned a lot of respect

1696
01:29:17,800 --> 01:29:19,799
Speaker 9: in the locker room for the way he's handled himself

1697
01:29:19,920 --> 01:29:24,000
Speaker 9: and the concussions. I get it. But if Mitch Morris

1698
01:29:24,080 --> 01:29:27,280
Speaker 9: is is okay with him and is okay with the risk,

1699
01:29:27,320 --> 01:29:28,760
Speaker 9: I think the bills would be too. And I think

1700
01:29:28,760 --> 01:29:30,000
Speaker 9: the doctors will tell you the same thing.

1701
01:29:30,000 --> 01:29:32,799
Speaker 4: And I'm just gonna say this, outside of Josh Allen,

1702
01:29:32,960 --> 01:29:35,240
Speaker 4: the next best leader on this team on the offensive

1703
01:29:35,280 --> 01:29:36,559
Speaker 4: side of the ball is Mitch Morse.

1704
01:29:37,640 --> 01:29:37,880
Speaker 9: Yeah.

1705
01:29:38,080 --> 01:29:38,960
Speaker 4: It's one in one A.

1706
01:29:39,240 --> 01:29:39,439
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1707
01:29:39,520 --> 01:29:44,720
Speaker 4: He is a revered leader in that locker room and

1708
01:29:44,760 --> 01:29:47,080
Speaker 4: his play reflects it, at least the way he played

1709
01:29:47,160 --> 01:29:50,760
Speaker 4: last year. So I'm all about Mitch Morris staying on

1710
01:29:50,760 --> 01:29:54,000
Speaker 4: this roster and riding out his contract through next season.

1711
01:29:54,240 --> 01:29:56,320
Speaker 4: You want to add a guard, I'll listen. I'm fine

1712
01:29:56,320 --> 01:29:58,519
Speaker 4: with that. If Steeleville is on the board and at

1713
01:29:58,560 --> 01:30:01,120
Speaker 4: fifty nine, I'm fine, we're taking him.

1714
01:30:01,240 --> 01:30:01,439
Speaker 9: Sure.

1715
01:30:01,479 --> 01:30:05,080
Speaker 4: I mean that kid's good, but I think he and

1716
01:30:05,160 --> 01:30:08,000
Speaker 4: Joe Tipman they're gonna hear their name called in the

1717
01:30:08,000 --> 01:30:10,479
Speaker 4: first ten picks tonight. I'd be stunned if they're not.

1718
01:30:11,080 --> 01:30:12,600
Speaker 4: We gotta take a break here, but more of your

1719
01:30:12,600 --> 01:30:33,240
Speaker 4: phone calls next on One Bill's Live. Stay tuned. All right,

1720
01:30:33,280 --> 01:30:35,240
Speaker 4: welcome back. We're getting right back to your phones, your

1721
01:30:35,240 --> 01:30:38,160
Speaker 4: thoughts on the Kincaid pick last night, and your favorites.

1722
01:30:37,720 --> 01:30:38,439
Speaker 9: For night two.

1723
01:30:38,560 --> 01:30:43,360
Speaker 4: For the Bills to Bubba in Northern Pa, we go,

1724
01:30:43,520 --> 01:30:44,559
Speaker 4: what do you got for us? Bubba?

1725
01:30:47,760 --> 01:30:48,080
Speaker 9: Bubba?

1726
01:30:48,080 --> 01:30:53,040
Speaker 4: Are you there? Oh? No, Bubba. I'll put you on

1727
01:30:53,120 --> 01:30:55,679
Speaker 4: hold in case we can come back to you. Matthew

1728
01:30:55,680 --> 01:30:57,200
Speaker 4: and Rochester, what do you got for us? You're on

1729
01:30:57,200 --> 01:30:57,800
Speaker 4: One Bill's Live.

1730
01:30:59,760 --> 01:31:02,439
Speaker 3: Thank you for having me on. I just wanted to

1731
01:31:02,479 --> 01:31:06,120
Speaker 3: say that I think that Gabe Davis kind of fell

1732
01:31:06,160 --> 01:31:08,800
Speaker 3: out of favor with a lot of Bill fans, and

1733
01:31:08,840 --> 01:31:10,960
Speaker 3: I think that's why they're saying a lot about getting

1734
01:31:11,200 --> 01:31:13,439
Speaker 3: a wide receiver, even though we took the tight end.

1735
01:31:14,160 --> 01:31:16,519
Speaker 3: I was wondering what you feel about trade and gave

1736
01:31:16,600 --> 01:31:19,559
Speaker 3: Davis and then maybe getting one of the wide receivers

1737
01:31:19,560 --> 01:31:22,400
Speaker 3: that's left on the board with a little bit more size, speed,

1738
01:31:22,520 --> 01:31:26,800
Speaker 3: like at Perry out of Wake Forest. And I also

1739
01:31:26,840 --> 01:31:28,960
Speaker 3: wanted to bring up if they don't do that and

1740
01:31:29,000 --> 01:31:31,519
Speaker 3: they still go after d Hop. What do you think

1741
01:31:31,560 --> 01:31:35,439
Speaker 3: about actually trying to get Justin Simmons in the trade

1742
01:31:35,479 --> 01:31:38,479
Speaker 3: and moving him to linebacker because he has the size

1743
01:31:38,479 --> 01:31:40,439
Speaker 3: and the speed, and I think he would kind of

1744
01:31:40,439 --> 01:31:41,640
Speaker 3: fit in what we're trying to do.

1745
01:31:42,120 --> 01:31:43,760
Speaker 4: About Isaiah Simmons in Arizona.

1746
01:31:43,800 --> 01:31:46,720
Speaker 3: Isaiah, Yeah, I'm sorry, yeah, yeah, Isaiah Simmons. I'm sorry, Yeah,

1747
01:31:46,800 --> 01:31:47,559
Speaker 3: Isaiah Simmons.

1748
01:31:47,600 --> 01:31:49,960
Speaker 9: So you get oh so trade, leave d Hop at

1749
01:31:49,960 --> 01:31:52,240
Speaker 9: Arizona and take Isia Simmons instead.

1750
01:31:53,240 --> 01:31:55,639
Speaker 3: Or put him in the package for the trade, because

1751
01:31:55,720 --> 01:31:57,559
Speaker 3: I don't know if they're really high on them too,

1752
01:31:57,600 --> 01:32:00,280
Speaker 3: and they have them at safety when he kind of

1753
01:32:00,320 --> 01:32:02,639
Speaker 3: plays more natural. I think he will play more naturally

1754
01:32:02,640 --> 01:32:05,320
Speaker 3: at linebacker with his skill set, plus he also has

1755
01:32:05,360 --> 01:32:07,000
Speaker 3: the size.

1756
01:32:06,720 --> 01:32:08,240
Speaker 4: All right, good questions.

1757
01:32:08,320 --> 01:32:10,880
Speaker 9: Yeah, man, you're right. He has struggled at Air. I

1758
01:32:10,920 --> 01:32:13,760
Speaker 9: think he struggled a little bit in Arizona. Whether it's

1759
01:32:13,800 --> 01:32:18,000
Speaker 9: their scheme, yeah, whether he's he's an absolutely freakish athlete,

1760
01:32:19,400 --> 01:32:21,360
Speaker 9: I think he struggled to pick up the scheme that

1761
01:32:21,400 --> 01:32:23,479
Speaker 9: they ran. It was very different than the one he

1762
01:32:23,560 --> 01:32:28,400
Speaker 9: ran in college apparently, and they've had trouble slotting and

1763
01:32:28,520 --> 01:32:30,760
Speaker 9: finding a spot where he fits, you know what I mean.

1764
01:32:30,840 --> 01:32:36,000
Speaker 9: I mean he's an athlete, so yeah, he a fresh

1765
01:32:36,000 --> 01:32:38,639
Speaker 9: start might do him extremely, do him a world of good,

1766
01:32:40,439 --> 01:32:42,160
Speaker 9: but you'd have to know what you're getting, I think.

1767
01:32:42,280 --> 01:32:44,800
Speaker 9: So yeah, I'm I'm okay with that. Get d hop

1768
01:32:44,800 --> 01:32:48,080
Speaker 9: in that guy. I don't what are he gonna give

1769
01:32:48,160 --> 01:32:52,320
Speaker 9: for it? I don't know, Yeah, I mean Gabe Davis okay, But.

1770
01:32:53,080 --> 01:32:55,439
Speaker 4: I don't know if I'm moving Gabe Davis and drafting

1771
01:32:55,439 --> 01:33:01,160
Speaker 4: at Perry, which is what he suggested. At Perry for

1772
01:33:01,280 --> 01:33:06,920
Speaker 4: me is a possession wide out doesn't offer anything in

1773
01:33:07,000 --> 01:33:10,240
Speaker 4: terms of yards after catch, So I would argue that

1774
01:33:10,280 --> 01:33:15,599
Speaker 4: Gabe offers you more in that area. And the other

1775
01:33:15,640 --> 01:33:19,519
Speaker 4: thing with at Perry seventeen drops over the last two seasons,

1776
01:33:20,120 --> 01:33:22,920
Speaker 4: so I don't know that you're getting a more sure

1777
01:33:22,960 --> 01:33:26,360
Speaker 4: handed receiver in at Perry either. And he's about the

1778
01:33:26,400 --> 01:33:29,400
Speaker 4: same size. He's six three one ninety eight Gabe six

1779
01:33:29,520 --> 01:33:33,120
Speaker 4: two and two fifteen. Yeah, I'm And Gabe's a monster

1780
01:33:33,240 --> 01:33:35,120
Speaker 4: in the in the run game as a blocker, so

1781
01:33:36,280 --> 01:33:37,080
Speaker 4: that carries weight.

1782
01:33:37,200 --> 01:33:40,160
Speaker 9: Also, I'm I'm a little bit I'm kind of in

1783
01:33:40,160 --> 01:33:45,599
Speaker 9: there with Matthew the caller. I would caution. I don't

1784
01:33:45,680 --> 01:33:48,160
Speaker 9: caution They don't need me to caution them Bill's fans.

1785
01:33:48,160 --> 01:33:50,559
Speaker 9: I mean, I don't want to give up on Gabe Davis.

1786
01:33:50,600 --> 01:33:51,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't either.

1787
01:33:52,640 --> 01:33:54,839
Speaker 9: I don't even want to limit his time on the field.

1788
01:33:55,160 --> 01:33:56,680
Speaker 9: I want to give him a chance to climb out

1789
01:33:56,680 --> 01:33:59,479
Speaker 9: of it. Certainly was inconsistent and the drops were crushers

1790
01:33:59,520 --> 01:34:01,080
Speaker 9: last year, but he's not the only one who was

1791
01:34:01,120 --> 01:34:03,360
Speaker 9: doing it. And probably a little bit of it is

1792
01:34:03,640 --> 01:34:05,600
Speaker 9: on Josh and the way he throws the football and

1793
01:34:05,640 --> 01:34:07,240
Speaker 9: all that stuff, and the plays he makes and the

1794
01:34:07,240 --> 01:34:10,000
Speaker 9: tough catches he asks his receivers to make sometimes, but

1795
01:34:10,560 --> 01:34:12,040
Speaker 9: there's a lot of times when they you got to

1796
01:34:12,120 --> 01:34:18,439
Speaker 9: catch it. And I think it was a wide receiver,

1797
01:34:18,640 --> 01:34:22,040
Speaker 9: room wide problem. It wasn't just Gabe Davis.

1798
01:34:22,280 --> 01:34:24,120
Speaker 4: They had thirty two drops as a team.

1799
01:34:24,520 --> 01:34:28,400
Speaker 9: And so I think it's more than just Gabe, and

1800
01:34:28,439 --> 01:34:30,240
Speaker 9: I think it's probably a little bit of us Josh,

1801
01:34:30,360 --> 01:34:34,160
Speaker 9: a little bit of its each of their they share

1802
01:34:34,200 --> 01:34:35,800
Speaker 9: in it. I mean, there's no no place else to

1803
01:34:35,840 --> 01:34:40,320
Speaker 9: lay's either quarterback and the wide receivers. But they they

1804
01:34:40,360 --> 01:34:43,280
Speaker 9: got to catch the ball. And I said it at

1805
01:34:43,320 --> 01:34:45,559
Speaker 9: the end of last season, and I'll say it again

1806
01:34:45,640 --> 01:34:50,960
Speaker 9: right now. If they cut their drops in half and

1807
01:34:51,040 --> 01:34:56,720
Speaker 9: their turnovers in half, nobody can beat him. They will

1808
01:34:56,720 --> 01:34:59,800
Speaker 9: go to and win the Super Bowl. That's how big

1809
01:34:59,880 --> 01:35:01,920
Speaker 9: and issue that was last year. If they cut their

1810
01:35:01,920 --> 01:35:04,679
Speaker 9: turnovers and their and their drops in.

1811
01:35:04,680 --> 01:35:06,839
Speaker 4: Half and they're not as injured as they were.

1812
01:35:07,439 --> 01:35:09,200
Speaker 9: They still go to and win the Super Bowl. Yeah,

1813
01:35:09,200 --> 01:35:11,680
Speaker 9: so they're you know, I'm with you, but I'm my

1814
01:35:11,840 --> 01:35:13,519
Speaker 9: caution is I get it. I hear the stuff. We

1815
01:35:13,560 --> 01:35:17,759
Speaker 9: hear the stuff about Gabe Davis too. I'm not ready

1816
01:35:17,760 --> 01:35:21,840
Speaker 9: to make that change that horse right now. I like him.

1817
01:35:21,880 --> 01:35:25,760
Speaker 9: I think he's a really solid player, and I'm not

1818
01:35:26,000 --> 01:35:27,200
Speaker 9: I'm not giving up on him.

1819
01:35:27,560 --> 01:35:30,519
Speaker 4: Break time for us here, our number three will begin

1820
01:35:30,680 --> 01:35:33,400
Speaker 4: with the senior producer from NFL Films who was probably

1821
01:35:33,400 --> 01:35:37,120
Speaker 4: watched more college tape than the average bear, Greg Cosel,

1822
01:35:37,439 --> 01:35:41,559
Speaker 4: joining us next to pick out some key diamonds in

1823
01:35:41,600 --> 01:35:43,759
Speaker 4: the rough for Night two of the Draft of the Bills.

1824
01:35:43,760 --> 01:35:44,680
Speaker 4: Stay tuned.

1825
01:36:18,000 --> 01:36:22,639
Speaker 1: The one Bills Live presented by Kalida Health.

1826
01:36:23,040 --> 01:36:27,280
Speaker 4: All Right, our number three here on Draft Day number two.

1827
01:36:27,760 --> 01:36:32,960
Speaker 4: Dalton Kincaid in the Bill's pocket, Who's added tonight in

1828
01:36:33,040 --> 01:36:35,479
Speaker 4: rounds two and three we're gonna dice that up with

1829
01:36:35,640 --> 01:36:40,040
Speaker 4: potential options with who else the guy that spends more

1830
01:36:40,080 --> 01:36:43,320
Speaker 4: time watching film than you probably do breathing. It's the

1831
01:36:43,439 --> 01:36:46,800
Speaker 4: senior producer for NFL Films, Greg Cosel, joining us after

1832
01:36:46,840 --> 01:36:48,880
Speaker 4: helping us out last night and a little short on

1833
01:36:48,960 --> 01:36:51,760
Speaker 4: sleep as we all are. Greg, how you doing you

1834
01:36:51,760 --> 01:36:52,200
Speaker 4: all right?

1835
01:36:53,760 --> 01:36:56,599
Speaker 27: I'm hanging in there, Brownie. I'm you know, he's still

1836
01:36:56,640 --> 01:36:58,679
Speaker 27: got in early this morning watching some more guys.

1837
01:36:58,760 --> 01:37:01,679
Speaker 5: It's it's never ending, That's right, girle.

1838
01:37:01,720 --> 01:37:03,640
Speaker 9: Impressions about the first round? What grabbed you.

1839
01:37:05,240 --> 01:37:05,760
Speaker 5: Overall?

1840
01:37:06,000 --> 01:37:06,360
Speaker 9: Yeah?

1841
01:37:06,400 --> 01:37:10,920
Speaker 27: Overall I would say for me, because you know, watching

1842
01:37:10,960 --> 01:37:14,040
Speaker 27: so many guys, I wouldn't say there were any real

1843
01:37:14,120 --> 01:37:18,400
Speaker 27: surprises for me. You know, people say someone to reach

1844
01:37:18,520 --> 01:37:20,639
Speaker 27: or you could have gotten someone later. You know, I've

1845
01:37:20,640 --> 01:37:23,840
Speaker 27: never subscribed Steve to that theory because you never know

1846
01:37:23,920 --> 01:37:26,160
Speaker 27: those kinds of things. And I think in this year's

1847
01:37:26,240 --> 01:37:30,439
Speaker 27: draft there were so many players who probably on team's

1848
01:37:30,479 --> 01:37:34,799
Speaker 27: boards were bunched together, so it becomes what what fills

1849
01:37:34,800 --> 01:37:36,440
Speaker 27: a need for you?

1850
01:37:36,439 --> 01:37:36,600
Speaker 5: You know?

1851
01:37:36,720 --> 01:37:38,840
Speaker 27: At that time, I know a lot of people thought

1852
01:37:38,880 --> 01:37:42,839
Speaker 27: that the Bills linebacker Jack the not the Bills linebacker

1853
01:37:42,880 --> 01:37:45,040
Speaker 27: the Iowell linebacker Jack Campbell.

1854
01:37:45,240 --> 01:37:46,559
Speaker 5: People said, oh, that's a reach.

1855
01:37:46,920 --> 01:37:49,160
Speaker 27: Well, you know, the way I look at players like

1856
01:37:49,200 --> 01:37:52,240
Speaker 27: that is you know exactly what you're getting. He's going

1857
01:37:52,280 --> 01:37:54,800
Speaker 27: to be the same player every single day, and he's

1858
01:37:54,840 --> 01:37:57,639
Speaker 27: a good player. And you know what, you get enough

1859
01:37:57,680 --> 01:37:59,640
Speaker 27: of those guys on a team, Steve, as you know,

1860
01:37:59,720 --> 01:38:00,840
Speaker 27: and you have a pretty good team.

1861
01:38:00,920 --> 01:38:02,679
Speaker 9: Yeah, that's right. What did you think about the Bills

1862
01:38:02,680 --> 01:38:04,599
Speaker 9: at twenty five jumping up a couple spots.

1863
01:38:06,080 --> 01:38:08,880
Speaker 27: I mean, obviously they really wanted Kinkaid or they wouldn't

1864
01:38:08,920 --> 01:38:12,959
Speaker 27: have done that. You know, you never know if Kinkaid,

1865
01:38:13,160 --> 01:38:15,599
Speaker 27: of course they're going to say Kinkaid was their guy.

1866
01:38:15,920 --> 01:38:18,200
Speaker 27: You never know if maybe they wanted a wide receiver,

1867
01:38:18,439 --> 01:38:21,719
Speaker 27: and with the run on four consecutive wide receivers, they felt, Hey,

1868
01:38:22,040 --> 01:38:24,519
Speaker 27: Kinkaid's our next guy, and we want to make sure

1869
01:38:24,560 --> 01:38:25,080
Speaker 27: we get him.

1870
01:38:25,280 --> 01:38:26,920
Speaker 5: But I can tell you one thing.

1871
01:38:27,280 --> 01:38:30,280
Speaker 27: I watched Kincaid last summer from his twenty twenty one tape,

1872
01:38:30,320 --> 01:38:32,000
Speaker 27: and of course I watched him this year from his

1873
01:38:32,200 --> 01:38:35,320
Speaker 27: twenty twenty two tape, and I really liked the player.

1874
01:38:35,720 --> 01:38:37,439
Speaker 27: And you know, one point I made last night with

1875
01:38:37,479 --> 01:38:39,840
Speaker 27: Brownie and Maddie and Steve I'll make it now with you.

1876
01:38:40,000 --> 01:38:42,760
Speaker 27: Is he's not a tight end in the sense that

1877
01:38:42,800 --> 01:38:45,120
Speaker 27: you just put te next to his name. He's a

1878
01:38:45,200 --> 01:38:47,720
Speaker 27: receiver and he's a weapon, and you can line him

1879
01:38:47,800 --> 01:38:51,200
Speaker 27: up anywhere. So it's you know, for people who necessarily think, oh,

1880
01:38:51,240 --> 01:38:54,320
Speaker 27: they drafted another tight end, he's not just a tight

1881
01:38:54,400 --> 01:38:55,240
Speaker 27: end in that sense.

1882
01:38:55,640 --> 01:38:57,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was saying they should just start calling him

1883
01:38:57,360 --> 01:39:01,280
Speaker 4: a tight receiver. But yeah, I mean, Steve and I

1884
01:39:01,320 --> 01:39:04,439
Speaker 4: were talking about this, Greg and Brandon being touched on

1885
01:39:04,479 --> 01:39:07,559
Speaker 4: this a little bit last night, and he said that

1886
01:39:08,320 --> 01:39:12,759
Speaker 4: he likes Kincaid's feel when he's out on a route.

1887
01:39:12,800 --> 01:39:16,240
Speaker 4: He doesn't just run what's written on the card. He

1888
01:39:16,320 --> 01:39:21,440
Speaker 4: reads the defense and adjusts accordingly. And Brandon Bean compared

1889
01:39:21,640 --> 01:39:25,280
Speaker 4: that kind of feel that he sees that Kincaid possesses

1890
01:39:26,040 --> 01:39:29,200
Speaker 4: with that of Cole Beasley. This is a guy in

1891
01:39:29,320 --> 01:39:31,759
Speaker 4: Kincaid who's gonna line up in the slot an awful lot,

1892
01:39:31,840 --> 01:39:35,960
Speaker 4: as you probably anticipate. And I think one of the

1893
01:39:35,960 --> 01:39:39,360
Speaker 4: things that was missing from the offense last year were

1894
01:39:39,400 --> 01:39:42,639
Speaker 4: the easy button answers for Josh to beat the blitz.

1895
01:39:43,200 --> 01:39:45,879
Speaker 4: This guy would seem to be the type of player

1896
01:39:45,960 --> 01:39:48,880
Speaker 4: that could provide those easy answers to beat the blitz

1897
01:39:48,960 --> 01:39:51,439
Speaker 4: going forward, would you agree?

1898
01:39:51,760 --> 01:39:54,800
Speaker 5: Yes? And he's also very good run after catch, so

1899
01:39:55,160 --> 01:39:57,120
Speaker 5: a lot of times you can throw those six seven

1900
01:39:57,200 --> 01:39:59,479
Speaker 5: eight yard balls and he can turn them into a

1901
01:39:59,479 --> 01:40:00,960
Speaker 5: twenty yard gain. You know.

1902
01:40:01,760 --> 01:40:03,320
Speaker 27: One of the things that stood out and I think

1903
01:40:03,320 --> 01:40:07,080
Speaker 27: you guys would agree last year with the Bills the

1904
01:40:07,120 --> 01:40:10,439
Speaker 27: pass game in particular as the season progressed, is sometimes

1905
01:40:10,439 --> 01:40:13,000
Speaker 27: it seemed like everything was hard. You know, it seemed

1906
01:40:13,040 --> 01:40:15,839
Speaker 27: like they were trying to hit big plays they weren't getting,

1907
01:40:16,160 --> 01:40:18,280
Speaker 27: you know, the so called layups that then you had

1908
01:40:18,280 --> 01:40:21,360
Speaker 27: some run after catch and very often that's a function

1909
01:40:21,439 --> 01:40:23,400
Speaker 27: of many things, obviously not just one.

1910
01:40:23,800 --> 01:40:26,120
Speaker 5: But you know, you don't want to have to live all.

1911
01:40:26,000 --> 01:40:29,000
Speaker 27: The time on explosive plays where the ball's thrown twenty

1912
01:40:29,040 --> 01:40:31,800
Speaker 27: five thirty yards down the field. That's really hard in

1913
01:40:31,840 --> 01:40:34,280
Speaker 27: this league, no matter how good your quarterback is. So

1914
01:40:34,640 --> 01:40:37,519
Speaker 27: you know, you're looking for receivers that can get open

1915
01:40:38,160 --> 01:40:41,439
Speaker 27: and when you get them the ball, they provide the

1916
01:40:41,520 --> 01:40:43,920
Speaker 27: run after catch. And I think King Kaid is that

1917
01:40:44,000 --> 01:40:47,240
Speaker 27: kind of player. And he's also a seam stretcher. He

1918
01:40:47,360 --> 01:40:51,519
Speaker 27: does give you a vertical element, so he's it'll be

1919
01:40:51,640 --> 01:40:54,120
Speaker 27: very interesting, and we touched on this Brownie last night.

1920
01:40:54,680 --> 01:40:57,120
Speaker 27: You don't draft Kinkaid unless you're thinking more now in

1921
01:40:57,200 --> 01:41:01,360
Speaker 27: terms of twelve personnel. Now, kin Kaid is ultimately a

1922
01:41:02,360 --> 01:41:05,559
Speaker 27: receiver and a weapon as opposed to a true tight end.

1923
01:41:05,920 --> 01:41:08,639
Speaker 27: But he's still just based on size a tight end.

1924
01:41:08,920 --> 01:41:12,720
Speaker 27: So you would have to believe they'll play more twelve personnel.

1925
01:41:12,240 --> 01:41:14,439
Speaker 9: Right, And I was making the point that even if

1926
01:41:14,479 --> 01:41:16,240
Speaker 9: they're not going to play it most of the game,

1927
01:41:16,479 --> 01:41:18,760
Speaker 9: they certainly got to sprinklet in early in the game

1928
01:41:18,800 --> 01:41:23,240
Speaker 9: to find out how a defense will make how they'll

1929
01:41:23,240 --> 01:41:26,559
Speaker 9: match up. You know what defensive personnel will the defense

1930
01:41:26,640 --> 01:41:28,360
Speaker 9: respond with when you put them on the field.

1931
01:41:28,439 --> 01:41:28,599
Speaker 2: Right.

1932
01:41:29,680 --> 01:41:31,680
Speaker 27: And the great thing about Kim Kaid, Stephen your one

1933
01:41:31,720 --> 01:41:35,000
Speaker 27: hundred percent right is Knox can do it to some degree.

1934
01:41:35,080 --> 01:41:37,640
Speaker 27: Kinkaid can do it more is that he can be

1935
01:41:37,760 --> 01:41:41,599
Speaker 27: detached from the formation. I remember a couple of years ago,

1936
01:41:42,600 --> 01:41:45,680
Speaker 27: maybe four or five years ago, time Flies talking to

1937
01:41:45,720 --> 01:41:49,959
Speaker 27: a coach about lining up tight ends as your boundary

1938
01:41:50,160 --> 01:41:52,840
Speaker 27: X the single receiver to the short side of the

1939
01:41:52,880 --> 01:41:55,280
Speaker 27: field on the back side of trips. In other words,

1940
01:41:55,320 --> 01:41:58,240
Speaker 27: three wide receivers to the wide side, and one of

1941
01:41:58,280 --> 01:42:00,880
Speaker 27: the things he said to me, and I've incorporated that

1942
01:42:00,920 --> 01:42:02,800
Speaker 27: and in a lot of my tape study and just

1943
01:42:02,800 --> 01:42:04,960
Speaker 27: the way I see the game. As he said, that

1944
01:42:05,000 --> 01:42:08,920
Speaker 27: gives the quarterback so much pre snap information because of

1945
01:42:08,920 --> 01:42:11,719
Speaker 27: how the defense lines up to that. That's one reason

1946
01:42:11,760 --> 01:42:14,160
Speaker 27: why the Chiefs are so good. You know, Kelsey is

1947
01:42:14,200 --> 01:42:16,320
Speaker 27: the master. They do that more than any team in

1948
01:42:16,360 --> 01:42:18,880
Speaker 27: the league. They line up Kelsey as the boundary X.

1949
01:42:19,160 --> 01:42:22,439
Speaker 27: Kinkaid is capable of being that guy because he can

1950
01:42:22,520 --> 01:42:25,560
Speaker 27: run routes like that and that really helps your quarterback

1951
01:42:25,600 --> 01:42:28,000
Speaker 27: before the snap of the ball because the defense has

1952
01:42:28,040 --> 01:42:29,320
Speaker 27: to react in certain ways.

1953
01:42:29,640 --> 01:42:32,360
Speaker 4: All right, So Greg, let's spin this forward now. Because

1954
01:42:32,479 --> 01:42:35,720
Speaker 4: kin Kaid is on the roster. He was made the

1955
01:42:35,760 --> 01:42:38,280
Speaker 4: first round draft choice of the Bills. There are a

1956
01:42:38,320 --> 01:42:41,040
Speaker 4: lot of Bills fans that thought that the Bills in

1957
01:42:41,120 --> 01:42:45,439
Speaker 4: their passing game needed help in the slot. Kinkaid kind

1958
01:42:45,479 --> 01:42:48,719
Speaker 4: of is that already. So how much do you think

1959
01:42:48,760 --> 01:42:52,639
Speaker 4: this reduces the likelihood of the Bills taking a receiver

1960
01:42:52,800 --> 01:42:54,880
Speaker 4: anywhere else in this draft?

1961
01:42:57,000 --> 01:42:59,600
Speaker 27: I think it reduces it a meaningful amount because I

1962
01:42:59,600 --> 01:43:03,000
Speaker 27: think the other factor is I think that Shakir has

1963
01:43:03,040 --> 01:43:05,599
Speaker 27: a chance to be a pretty good player now Again,

1964
01:43:05,760 --> 01:43:07,160
Speaker 27: I'm not going to sit here and say he's going

1965
01:43:07,240 --> 01:43:09,760
Speaker 27: to catch eighty balls for a thousand yards. But I

1966
01:43:09,800 --> 01:43:12,120
Speaker 27: think toward the end of the season he showed that

1967
01:43:12,200 --> 01:43:14,880
Speaker 27: he could perform as a slot receiver. And I think

1968
01:43:14,920 --> 01:43:17,720
Speaker 27: with the combination of Kincaid, who's more than capable of

1969
01:43:17,720 --> 01:43:22,559
Speaker 27: filling that role, and Shakir, I don't think that that Look,

1970
01:43:22,640 --> 01:43:24,600
Speaker 27: you never know, as you know, Brownie, we never know.

1971
01:43:24,760 --> 01:43:25,920
Speaker 5: Till they make the picks.

1972
01:43:26,080 --> 01:43:28,880
Speaker 27: But I don't think that that becomes a big time

1973
01:43:28,880 --> 01:43:29,920
Speaker 27: priority right now.

1974
01:43:30,400 --> 01:43:33,599
Speaker 9: All right, So we've been spinning this forward. We've got

1975
01:43:33,640 --> 01:43:35,479
Speaker 9: a little list here that we're going to go through maybe,

1976
01:43:35,600 --> 01:43:38,599
Speaker 9: and we've we've talked a little bit about these guys.

1977
01:43:38,720 --> 01:43:41,760
Speaker 9: We've got three linebackers, three defensive tackles, and of course

1978
01:43:41,760 --> 01:43:47,120
Speaker 9: a wide receiver just in case. And so let's start

1979
01:43:47,120 --> 01:43:49,519
Speaker 9: with that. Let's start with the wide receiver. Jonathan Mingo,

1980
01:43:49,600 --> 01:43:51,040
Speaker 9: old miss that's his favorite.

1981
01:43:51,840 --> 01:43:52,920
Speaker 5: That's one of my favorites.

1982
01:43:53,000 --> 01:43:55,280
Speaker 9: Yeah, the guy. The guy's got some skills. Tell us

1983
01:43:55,280 --> 01:43:55,760
Speaker 9: about him.

1984
01:43:55,840 --> 01:43:58,280
Speaker 5: Oh my god, I love Jonathan Mingo.

1985
01:43:58,400 --> 01:44:03,439
Speaker 27: I I I watched his tape very early in the process,

1986
01:44:04,080 --> 01:44:05,479
Speaker 27: and I said to one of my guys on the

1987
01:44:05,479 --> 01:44:07,920
Speaker 27: Matchup show because I watched him. It might have been

1988
01:44:07,960 --> 01:44:10,280
Speaker 27: either before the Super Bowl or right after the Super

1989
01:44:10,280 --> 01:44:13,280
Speaker 27: Bowl when I came back and I said, this guy

1990
01:44:13,400 --> 01:44:15,280
Speaker 27: is by when all's said and done, this guy's going

1991
01:44:15,360 --> 01:44:17,000
Speaker 27: to be a second round pick or maybe a late

1992
01:44:17,040 --> 01:44:19,720
Speaker 27: first round pick. And I think that'll happen tonight. He'll

1993
01:44:19,760 --> 01:44:23,320
Speaker 27: be a second round pick. He is big, he's physical,

1994
01:44:23,640 --> 01:44:27,799
Speaker 27: He ran really well. His athletic testing measurables were really

1995
01:44:27,840 --> 01:44:32,320
Speaker 27: really good. He's smooth, he's got strong hands, he's competitive

1996
01:44:32,360 --> 01:44:36,880
Speaker 27: run after catch, he has vertical ability. I kind of

1997
01:44:36,960 --> 01:44:40,280
Speaker 27: thought that just stylistically, he kind of reminded me of

1998
01:44:40,320 --> 01:44:43,160
Speaker 27: AJ Brown, and they both are from Old Miss. And

1999
01:44:43,320 --> 01:44:46,479
Speaker 27: keep in mind that AJ Brown, until his last six

2000
01:44:46,600 --> 01:44:50,080
Speaker 27: or seven games at All Miss, was almost exclusively a

2001
01:44:50,080 --> 01:44:53,040
Speaker 27: slot receiver and then in his last six seven games

2002
01:44:53,080 --> 01:44:55,400
Speaker 27: played on the outside. And we know what he's become

2003
01:44:55,479 --> 01:44:59,320
Speaker 27: in the league. But I think Jonathan Mingo has similar trades.

2004
01:44:59,520 --> 01:45:02,559
Speaker 27: And we're talking about six two, two twenty and he's

2005
01:45:02,600 --> 01:45:05,799
Speaker 27: he's a big man and a physical, competitive player.

2006
01:45:06,880 --> 01:45:08,719
Speaker 4: All right. We don't know if he's on the board,

2007
01:45:09,120 --> 01:45:11,920
Speaker 4: uh when the Bills pick at fifty nine, but you

2008
01:45:11,960 --> 01:45:14,759
Speaker 4: know we've heard this name before. We've talked about it before.

2009
01:45:15,280 --> 01:45:19,240
Speaker 4: Drew Sanders, the Alabama transfer to Arkansas is still on

2010
01:45:19,280 --> 01:45:21,720
Speaker 4: the board right now. Jack Campbell went, I think a

2011
01:45:21,720 --> 01:45:25,400
Speaker 4: lot earlier than people anticipated. But he's the only linebacker

2012
01:45:25,439 --> 01:45:28,879
Speaker 4: off the board so far. So yeah, what about Sanders,

2013
01:45:28,880 --> 01:45:31,439
Speaker 4: And you think he goes top half of the round.

2014
01:45:33,200 --> 01:45:38,320
Speaker 27: I mean, he's to me, you know, Trenton Simpson I

2015
01:45:38,400 --> 01:45:42,360
Speaker 27: assume will go because of the athletic traits. But Sanders

2016
01:45:42,520 --> 01:45:47,960
Speaker 27: is six ' four plus two thirty five. He predominantly

2017
01:45:48,080 --> 01:45:51,000
Speaker 27: was a stacked linebacker at Arkansas, even though when he

2018
01:45:51,080 --> 01:45:54,280
Speaker 27: left Alabama, uh, he was really an edge player, but

2019
01:45:54,320 --> 01:45:58,920
Speaker 27: he was a stacked linebacker at Arkansas. I thought he

2020
01:45:59,000 --> 01:46:02,760
Speaker 27: played well given that the position was relatively new to him.

2021
01:46:03,040 --> 01:46:04,679
Speaker 27: You know, I thought that he had a good feel

2022
01:46:04,760 --> 01:46:07,040
Speaker 27: for what he saw for key and diagnose. I thought,

2023
01:46:07,240 --> 01:46:08,920
Speaker 27: you know, normally you think that's going to be a

2024
01:46:08,920 --> 01:46:11,960
Speaker 27: problem when someone's new to that position. But he has

2025
01:46:12,040 --> 01:46:15,679
Speaker 27: great play speed. He has pursued range. He ran down backs,

2026
01:46:15,680 --> 01:46:19,519
Speaker 27: he ran down quarterbacks. He does have pass rush ability.

2027
01:46:19,560 --> 01:46:22,400
Speaker 27: That's the other added dimension. You can line him up

2028
01:46:22,439 --> 01:46:25,000
Speaker 27: off the edge. He can rush the quarterback from inside

2029
01:46:25,040 --> 01:46:27,639
Speaker 27: as well. So He gives you an added dimension as

2030
01:46:27,680 --> 01:46:30,800
Speaker 27: a stack to backer. You don't necessarily look this team

2031
01:46:31,040 --> 01:46:34,240
Speaker 27: assuming they stay with what they they've done. Obviously they

2032
01:46:34,240 --> 01:46:37,160
Speaker 27: don't have Edmonds anymore. But this team did not play dime.

2033
01:46:37,240 --> 01:46:40,360
Speaker 27: They played nickel, so they kept their two linebackers on

2034
01:46:40,400 --> 01:46:42,880
Speaker 27: the field. We know Milano is not coming off the field,

2035
01:46:43,160 --> 01:46:45,439
Speaker 27: so someone like Sanders, if he was ready to play

2036
01:46:45,439 --> 01:46:46,880
Speaker 27: as a rookie, you.

2037
01:46:46,760 --> 01:46:47,960
Speaker 5: Know he fits that. Bill.

2038
01:46:48,880 --> 01:46:51,080
Speaker 27: I can't speak Brownie to where you know whether he'll

2039
01:46:51,120 --> 01:46:52,080
Speaker 27: be there at fifty nine.

2040
01:46:52,479 --> 01:46:55,000
Speaker 5: Those people a lot smarter than I figured out. Who's

2041
01:46:55,040 --> 01:46:57,600
Speaker 5: you know. The order of tonight's drafting.

2042
01:46:58,400 --> 01:47:02,200
Speaker 9: Gives a little insight into Die Henley, the Washington State linebacker.

2043
01:47:02,840 --> 01:47:06,200
Speaker 27: Oh yeah, that guy's fun. That guy is really really

2044
01:47:06,240 --> 01:47:08,680
Speaker 27: fun to watch. Now you're dealing, Steve with a guy

2045
01:47:08,720 --> 01:47:11,879
Speaker 27: that was a receiver. He went to Nevada as a receiver.

2046
01:47:12,200 --> 01:47:15,519
Speaker 27: He's only played stackbacker for two years. And this guy

2047
01:47:15,640 --> 01:47:20,519
Speaker 27: is a compact, sudden, supercharged competitive athlete. He's got great

2048
01:47:20,520 --> 01:47:24,040
Speaker 27: play speed, he's got great range. His activity and energy

2049
01:47:24,120 --> 01:47:27,439
Speaker 27: level on every snap is exactly what you want. He's

2050
01:47:27,439 --> 01:47:29,719
Speaker 27: got a quick trigger in the run game. Another guy

2051
01:47:29,960 --> 01:47:33,439
Speaker 27: not a lot of experience playing stack, but you didn't

2052
01:47:33,479 --> 01:47:36,120
Speaker 27: think watching his tape he's not really seeing things.

2053
01:47:36,439 --> 01:47:38,920
Speaker 5: I mean he was quick when he saw it. He went.

2054
01:47:39,280 --> 01:47:42,760
Speaker 27: He's a scrape and flow, run and chase guy. I

2055
01:47:42,800 --> 01:47:45,439
Speaker 27: thought he played with really good vision. He was one

2056
01:47:45,479 --> 01:47:47,880
Speaker 27: of my favorite guys to watch, just the way in

2057
01:47:47,920 --> 01:47:48,920
Speaker 27: which he played the game.

2058
01:47:49,320 --> 01:47:51,799
Speaker 4: Yeah. The only unfortunate thing is he's a little short

2059
01:47:51,800 --> 01:47:54,840
Speaker 4: on the measurables. Quite literally, he's a short guy, and

2060
01:47:54,840 --> 01:47:55,639
Speaker 4: he's a light guy.

2061
01:47:56,600 --> 01:47:59,519
Speaker 27: Yeah, he's six one two twenty five the heights okay,

2062
01:48:00,120 --> 01:48:03,880
Speaker 27: two twenty five. You know, some people might say that

2063
01:48:03,920 --> 01:48:07,040
Speaker 27: doesn't work, particularly with Milano. You may not want two

2064
01:48:07,120 --> 01:48:07,960
Speaker 27: guys that are light.

2065
01:48:08,400 --> 01:48:11,559
Speaker 4: Yeah. The last linebacker a little bit of a Day

2066
01:48:11,560 --> 01:48:17,880
Speaker 4: two sleeper, Marte Mapu from Sacramento State. He played some

2067
01:48:18,000 --> 01:48:20,799
Speaker 4: safety too though, right, he's kind of like a hybrid.

2068
01:48:20,960 --> 01:48:21,960
Speaker 4: He's a hybrid Greg.

2069
01:48:22,560 --> 01:48:27,200
Speaker 27: Yeah, he's a fascinating guy because you know, I think

2070
01:48:27,240 --> 01:48:30,519
Speaker 27: he will. To me, he would project best as a

2071
01:48:30,520 --> 01:48:34,720
Speaker 27: as a linebacker. But the guy made a ton of

2072
01:48:34,760 --> 01:48:38,240
Speaker 27: plays with range. He's a very rangy player. He's a

2073
01:48:38,360 --> 01:48:41,240
Speaker 27: tall athlete. He's over six to two. I think he

2074
01:48:41,280 --> 01:48:45,160
Speaker 27: weighs about two twenty so another guy that, again, a

2075
01:48:45,200 --> 01:48:47,880
Speaker 27: lot of these young kids can gain weight, so you know,

2076
01:48:47,920 --> 01:48:48,519
Speaker 27: you don't know.

2077
01:48:48,439 --> 01:48:49,280
Speaker 5: If that can happen.

2078
01:48:49,479 --> 01:48:53,439
Speaker 27: But he's about two twenty now, you know, I think

2079
01:48:53,479 --> 01:48:56,680
Speaker 27: he he I think his skill set ultimately works as

2080
01:48:56,720 --> 01:49:00,000
Speaker 27: a stacked linebacker. He's he played a lot of nickel corner.

2081
01:49:00,080 --> 01:49:02,240
Speaker 27: I don't believe he's a nickel corner in the NFL

2082
01:49:02,479 --> 01:49:04,880
Speaker 27: by any stretch of the imagination. And yes, he did

2083
01:49:04,920 --> 01:49:08,600
Speaker 27: play some safety as well. Maybe that's his position, but

2084
01:49:08,720 --> 01:49:09,800
Speaker 27: he's not a slot corner.

2085
01:49:10,760 --> 01:49:11,000
Speaker 16: All right.

2086
01:49:11,040 --> 01:49:13,599
Speaker 9: Let's move down to talk about some of the defensive tackles.

2087
01:49:13,600 --> 01:49:16,080
Speaker 9: The Bills have got four defensive tackles, all in the

2088
01:49:16,160 --> 01:49:19,120
Speaker 9: last year or in the last year of their contract,

2089
01:49:19,200 --> 01:49:21,280
Speaker 9: or the only year of their contract, whichever the case

2090
01:49:21,360 --> 01:49:23,400
Speaker 9: may be. This has been one of the things that

2091
01:49:23,439 --> 01:49:25,599
Speaker 9: people have thought, maybe the Bills get some long term

2092
01:49:25,600 --> 01:49:28,560
Speaker 9: stability at the position in this draft. They'll start with

2093
01:49:28,640 --> 01:49:30,880
Speaker 9: Keanu Benton out of Wisconsin.

2094
01:49:32,400 --> 01:49:34,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's he's a really good prospect.

2095
01:49:34,560 --> 01:49:37,040
Speaker 27: He's another guy that was kind of fun to watch

2096
01:49:37,120 --> 01:49:39,959
Speaker 27: because he is, first of all, he's got really good size.

2097
01:49:40,439 --> 01:49:42,519
Speaker 27: He's about six or four, he's about three to ten,

2098
01:49:42,720 --> 01:49:44,840
Speaker 27: really good arm length. I thought he was one of

2099
01:49:44,920 --> 01:49:49,000
Speaker 27: the better interior detackle prospects in this draft. He's got size,

2100
01:49:49,120 --> 01:49:53,960
Speaker 27: lanth hour movement, overall athleticism when he stayed low, and

2101
01:49:54,000 --> 01:49:55,960
Speaker 27: this was just something he has to work on. When

2102
01:49:56,000 --> 01:49:59,559
Speaker 27: he stayed low and played with really good leverage, boy,

2103
01:49:59,680 --> 01:50:03,080
Speaker 27: he was a force inside both as a run defender

2104
01:50:03,320 --> 01:50:06,519
Speaker 27: and with his ability to rush the quarterback. Now, he's

2105
01:50:06,560 --> 01:50:08,080
Speaker 27: not a big time pass rusher.

2106
01:50:08,200 --> 01:50:08,960
Speaker 5: You're not thinking.

2107
01:50:08,800 --> 01:50:10,799
Speaker 27: About him the way you think of those great interior

2108
01:50:11,040 --> 01:50:14,799
Speaker 27: pass rushers. But I thought he was a good prospect.

2109
01:50:14,840 --> 01:50:16,840
Speaker 27: The main issue with him is there were just too

2110
01:50:16,840 --> 01:50:19,360
Speaker 27: many snaps in which he was a little slow out

2111
01:50:19,400 --> 01:50:23,000
Speaker 27: of his stance and rose up. I think that's fixable.

2112
01:50:23,439 --> 01:50:25,880
Speaker 27: It's going to need to be fixed because that that

2113
01:50:26,040 --> 01:50:29,160
Speaker 27: negates his quickness and his power, and you know, obviously

2114
01:50:29,240 --> 01:50:31,559
Speaker 27: that makes him not as good a player. But when

2115
01:50:31,600 --> 01:50:36,240
Speaker 27: he really stayed low, Steve, he was a dynamic interior dlignment.

2116
01:50:36,920 --> 01:50:39,920
Speaker 4: All right, let's move along and we go to I

2117
01:50:39,920 --> 01:50:46,040
Speaker 4: believe it's pronounced Gervon Dexter out of Florida. Big kid.

2118
01:50:46,520 --> 01:50:48,320
Speaker 4: What can you tell us about him?

2119
01:50:48,960 --> 01:50:52,240
Speaker 27: Yeah, one of the most frustrating guys to watch, because

2120
01:50:52,280 --> 01:50:57,120
Speaker 27: this guy has tremendous, tremendous ability. There were times watching

2121
01:50:57,160 --> 01:51:00,000
Speaker 27: his tape where you came away thinking, this guy's Christian

2122
01:51:00,040 --> 01:51:05,479
Speaker 27: owns and he made those kinds of plays. But it

2123
01:51:05,600 --> 01:51:09,040
Speaker 27: just didn't happen often enough. He was laid off the

2124
01:51:09,080 --> 01:51:12,639
Speaker 27: ball too often, he played too high. Both of those

2125
01:51:12,680 --> 01:51:16,160
Speaker 27: things would prevent him from being a consistent quality tackle.

2126
01:51:16,400 --> 01:51:19,479
Speaker 27: They must be cleaned up. But when you see the

2127
01:51:19,520 --> 01:51:22,679
Speaker 27: good plays, you go, oh my god, this guy could

2128
01:51:22,720 --> 01:51:25,560
Speaker 27: be great. And for whenever it's worth other than to

2129
01:51:25,600 --> 01:51:28,840
Speaker 27: indicate that he's a really good athlete. At six six

2130
01:51:28,920 --> 01:51:31,240
Speaker 27: three ten he ran a four eight eight forty, which

2131
01:51:31,280 --> 01:51:34,320
Speaker 27: is pretty remarkable. So it's all there on tape. It's

2132
01:51:34,400 --> 01:51:37,920
Speaker 27: in his body. He just needs to do it, and

2133
01:51:39,000 --> 01:51:41,920
Speaker 27: he probably needs some hard coaching. But you know, when

2134
01:51:41,920 --> 01:51:43,960
Speaker 27: you're laid off the ball and when you stand up,

2135
01:51:44,000 --> 01:51:46,360
Speaker 27: as you know, Steve, you can't play in this league.

2136
01:51:46,760 --> 01:51:51,200
Speaker 9: Yeah, you're right. It's a yeah, that's an albatross around

2137
01:51:51,280 --> 01:51:53,400
Speaker 9: your neck if you're if you stand up. Give me

2138
01:51:53,760 --> 01:51:56,880
Speaker 9: one last guy here. Let's talk about Zach Pickens South Carolina.

2139
01:51:58,320 --> 01:52:00,800
Speaker 27: Yeah, Zach Pickens is a He was a big time

2140
01:52:00,840 --> 01:52:02,800
Speaker 27: recruit at South Carolina and that was a coup for

2141
01:52:02,880 --> 01:52:07,400
Speaker 27: them when they got him. And he's actually a guy

2142
01:52:07,439 --> 01:52:10,800
Speaker 27: I liked quite a bit. I thought he has the

2143
01:52:10,920 --> 01:52:12,960
Speaker 27: traits that are needed to play both in a two

2144
01:52:13,040 --> 01:52:15,920
Speaker 27: gap system and in a one gap scheme, and I

2145
01:52:15,960 --> 01:52:19,960
Speaker 27: think that gives him the opportunity to transition effectively. He

2146
01:52:20,000 --> 01:52:22,719
Speaker 27: weighs about two ninety, so he's not over three hundred,

2147
01:52:22,760 --> 01:52:26,719
Speaker 27: but he's six ' four, tremendous arm length. Again, great

2148
01:52:26,760 --> 01:52:31,240
Speaker 27: athletic testing measurables for a guy that big. He showed

2149
01:52:31,280 --> 01:52:34,960
Speaker 27: penetrating quickness. He showed the ability to to gap with

2150
01:52:35,040 --> 01:52:38,880
Speaker 27: strength and power, and to control and displace interior alignment.

2151
01:52:39,600 --> 01:52:42,639
Speaker 27: There's a lot to like about this guy. I think

2152
01:52:42,680 --> 01:52:45,920
Speaker 27: early in his career he would be a base defense

2153
01:52:46,200 --> 01:52:49,600
Speaker 27: de tackle and not play in your sub fronts. He

2154
01:52:49,720 --> 01:52:52,320
Speaker 27: needs to become a lot more refined and better as

2155
01:52:52,360 --> 01:52:55,200
Speaker 27: a pass rusher, but I think that can happen two

2156
01:52:55,240 --> 01:52:56,280
Speaker 27: three years down the road.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he's got thirty four and a half inch arms

2158
01:52:58,960 --> 01:53:01,360
Speaker 4: and ten and three yeah inch hands. I mean when

2159
01:53:01,400 --> 01:53:02,840
Speaker 4: he gets his hands on you, it's over.

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01:53:04,920 --> 01:53:08,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's he was a fun guy to watch, all.

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Speaker 4: Right, Greg, So I don't know. I look at this

2162
01:53:12,600 --> 01:53:16,120
Speaker 4: first round and it's seven edge guys off the board,

2163
01:53:16,320 --> 01:53:20,879
Speaker 4: four corners, four defensive tackles, four wide receivers, four offensive tackles,

2164
01:53:21,280 --> 01:53:23,479
Speaker 4: and then just three quarterbacks, two running backs, a tight

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Speaker 4: end to linebacker, and a guard.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but what does that tell you, Brownie?

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01:53:27,160 --> 01:53:31,200
Speaker 27: That tells you that essentially what teams draft for now

2168
01:53:31,760 --> 01:53:34,799
Speaker 27: is the passing game. In the NFL, it's the passing

2169
01:53:34,800 --> 01:53:37,960
Speaker 27: game on offense and stopping the passing game on defense.

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Speaker 27: Because even though two backs were taken, and obviously people

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01:53:41,240 --> 01:53:45,479
Speaker 27: say you don't take backs, both backs have major film

2172
01:53:45,600 --> 01:53:48,920
Speaker 27: in which they're detached from the formation run routes that

2173
01:53:49,000 --> 01:53:53,280
Speaker 27: look like wide receivers. So it's basically a passing game

2174
01:53:53,400 --> 01:53:57,000
Speaker 27: league now and pretty much everything is based on that.

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01:53:57,400 --> 01:54:01,200
Speaker 27: So once you get beyond quarterbacks, everything relates to the

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01:54:01,320 --> 01:54:02,679
Speaker 27: quarterback and the passing game.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, you can look at position groups will tell you

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01:54:05,680 --> 01:54:08,360
Speaker 9: the linebackers, now none of them. You have two guys

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01:54:08,400 --> 01:54:10,880
Speaker 9: in this class that are over two forty, you know,

2180
01:54:11,680 --> 01:54:15,360
Speaker 9: at middle linebacker, and everybody else is like two twenty

2181
01:54:15,360 --> 01:54:17,479
Speaker 9: five that can run like you know, these athletes that

2182
01:54:17,479 --> 01:54:21,360
Speaker 9: are hybrid covery. Yeah, there hybrid safeties basically playing down inside.

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01:54:22,080 --> 01:54:23,960
Speaker 9: What do you think there's gonna be a time when

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01:54:23,960 --> 01:54:25,960
Speaker 9: it'll the pendulum will swing back and you get a

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01:54:25,960 --> 01:54:28,400
Speaker 9: team like Baltimore that runs the football right at you

2186
01:54:28,479 --> 01:54:30,640
Speaker 9: and you got to kind of throw some weight on

2187
01:54:30,680 --> 01:54:32,640
Speaker 9: the field to defend it.

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01:54:34,080 --> 01:54:36,280
Speaker 27: I don't I don't know if it'll swing back in

2189
01:54:36,360 --> 01:54:39,080
Speaker 27: the way you you mean it's Steve with the traditional

2190
01:54:39,160 --> 01:54:41,680
Speaker 27: run game, right. I think it swings back with the

2191
01:54:41,800 --> 01:54:44,480
Speaker 27: quarterback being a factor in the run game. I mean,

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01:54:44,640 --> 01:54:47,120
Speaker 27: look what happened in Philly with Hurtz. Look what's going

2193
01:54:47,160 --> 01:54:50,040
Speaker 27: to happen in Indy now with Richardson. They're essentially going

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01:54:50,120 --> 01:54:52,840
Speaker 27: to run the Philly offense with Shane Steichen there. You know,

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01:54:53,040 --> 01:54:57,080
Speaker 27: I think the quarterback as a deciding factor and meaningful

2196
01:54:57,120 --> 01:54:59,680
Speaker 27: factor in the run game, even if he doesn't carry

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01:54:59,680 --> 01:55:03,680
Speaker 27: it twelve thirteen times. But defensively, you have to defend that,

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01:55:04,080 --> 01:55:07,680
Speaker 27: and that causes some issues for you because you know,

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01:55:07,680 --> 01:55:11,280
Speaker 27: when the quarterback can potentially run, you've got to deal

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01:55:11,320 --> 01:55:13,440
Speaker 27: with that on the defensive side of the ball. So

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01:55:13,560 --> 01:55:15,480
Speaker 27: I think the run game could become more of a

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01:55:15,520 --> 01:55:17,320
Speaker 27: factor for that reason.

2203
01:55:17,120 --> 01:55:18,360
Speaker 5: But not old school.

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01:55:18,360 --> 01:55:21,480
Speaker 27: Will you line up and just hand you know, the

2205
01:55:21,520 --> 01:55:23,040
Speaker 27: Derek Henry approach so to speak.

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01:55:23,040 --> 01:55:24,960
Speaker 5: I'm not sure that we're going to go be going

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01:55:25,000 --> 01:55:25,560
Speaker 5: back to that.

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01:55:26,480 --> 01:55:29,440
Speaker 4: Right Greg. Thanks, as always, we appreciate all your help,

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Speaker 4: especially in dising these guys up that you've watched a

2210
01:55:32,680 --> 01:55:34,520
Speaker 4: lot more of than we have. So thanks very much

2211
01:55:34,520 --> 01:55:35,000
Speaker 4: for all of it.

2212
01:55:36,120 --> 01:55:37,520
Speaker 5: Appreciate it, guys, talk to you next week.

2213
01:55:37,560 --> 01:55:37,800
Speaker 9: Thanks.

2214
01:55:37,800 --> 01:55:40,960
Speaker 4: All right, that's Greg Cosel, who will join us next

2215
01:55:41,320 --> 01:55:45,640
Speaker 4: Monday to give us a full wrap up or Tuesday, Sorry,

2216
01:55:45,680 --> 01:55:48,960
Speaker 4: to full wrap up on the Bill's prospects in the

2217
01:55:49,120 --> 01:55:52,480
Speaker 4: entire draft class when the draft is all said and done.

2218
01:55:52,480 --> 01:55:53,840
Speaker 4: But we want to get back to the phones where

2219
01:55:53,880 --> 01:55:57,600
Speaker 4: we've had some people waiting patiently for their take on

2220
01:55:57,640 --> 01:56:01,800
Speaker 4: the Dalton Kincaid pick and their favorites for the Bills.

2221
01:56:01,840 --> 01:56:05,000
Speaker 4: Tonight on nine two of the draft, and with that

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01:56:05,120 --> 01:56:07,360
Speaker 4: we go to Jansen in Rochester. What do you got

2223
01:56:07,360 --> 01:56:08,000
Speaker 4: for us? Jansen?

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01:56:08,960 --> 01:56:11,680
Speaker 10: Hey, thanks, guys. I just wanted to say about Tinkaid.

2225
01:56:12,360 --> 01:56:15,720
Speaker 10: Best pass catcher in this draft including wide receivers. He's

2226
01:56:15,720 --> 01:56:19,280
Speaker 10: Travis Kelsey two point zero. Great pick by Bean for

2227
01:56:19,360 --> 01:56:22,240
Speaker 10: fifty nine. I agree with you, it's drewce Sanders all

2228
01:56:22,240 --> 01:56:24,320
Speaker 10: the way. He's not going to be there. He's a

2229
01:56:24,360 --> 01:56:27,560
Speaker 10: five star prospect. He's Micah Parsons. He could play in

2230
01:56:27,560 --> 01:56:30,560
Speaker 10: the middle when Von retires, he could move the edge

2231
01:56:30,560 --> 01:56:33,600
Speaker 10: and be a full time pass rusher. So he's valuable.

2232
01:56:33,760 --> 01:56:35,600
Speaker 10: Move up and get him. We have two third round

2233
01:56:35,600 --> 01:56:39,720
Speaker 10: picks next year. We're getting one for Tremaine Edmunds compensatory.

2234
01:56:40,120 --> 01:56:42,560
Speaker 10: So burn a third round pick, do a pick swap

2235
01:56:42,640 --> 01:56:45,080
Speaker 10: of ninety one back into the hundreds. Go up and

2236
01:56:45,080 --> 01:56:48,040
Speaker 10: get drews Sanders. If not stick and pick, take one

2237
01:56:48,080 --> 01:56:50,880
Speaker 10: of the five star prospects d tackle, like Irvan Dexter

2238
01:56:51,000 --> 01:56:54,720
Speaker 10: or Zach Pickens or maybe Duan Jones, Smatberg, Dron. I'm

2239
01:56:54,720 --> 01:56:56,480
Speaker 10: gonna shut up and let you guys talk and hang up.

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Speaker 4: Thanks guys, All right, thanks Jansen, Yeah, I mean Bergeron.

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01:57:00,880 --> 01:57:05,640
Speaker 4: It's interesting to see where he lands. Some people think

2242
01:57:05,680 --> 01:57:07,920
Speaker 4: he can play tackle in this league, and some people

2243
01:57:07,960 --> 01:57:11,760
Speaker 4: project him more to guard because his arms aren't super long.

2244
01:57:12,040 --> 01:57:14,760
Speaker 9: Yeah, you're gonna have to wait a long time to

2245
01:57:14,840 --> 01:57:17,360
Speaker 9: find out if Drew Sanders is even gonna come into

2246
01:57:17,480 --> 01:57:20,560
Speaker 9: striking distance. Yeah, trade up. I mean, you're talking about it.

2247
01:57:20,520 --> 01:57:21,920
Speaker 4: But he's right. You would have to give up a

2248
01:57:21,960 --> 01:57:23,720
Speaker 4: pick next year to make it happen because you don't

2249
01:57:23,720 --> 01:57:24,440
Speaker 4: have the aml right.

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Speaker 9: Right, it's gonna take it's he's gonna be expensive to

2251
01:57:27,920 --> 01:57:31,680
Speaker 9: jump up very far. But if he gets into the

2252
01:57:31,720 --> 01:57:34,720
Speaker 9: fifties and you got a chance at it, but then

2253
01:57:34,720 --> 01:57:37,240
Speaker 9: you're gonna walk away with three draft picks in this.

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01:57:37,280 --> 01:57:41,440
Speaker 4: Draft, well, unless you're using next year's right to do so.

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01:57:42,720 --> 01:57:44,800
Speaker 9: Yeah.

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01:57:44,840 --> 01:57:46,760
Speaker 4: He does make an interesting point because the Bills will

2257
01:57:46,760 --> 01:57:51,000
Speaker 4: get a compensatory for the departure of Edmunds provided they

2258
01:57:51,000 --> 01:57:53,080
Speaker 4: have a net loss of free agents. If they don't

2259
01:57:53,080 --> 01:57:54,840
Speaker 4: have a net loss of free agents, it doesn't matter

2260
01:57:54,840 --> 01:57:56,520
Speaker 4: who they lost and for how much money and what

2261
01:57:56,640 --> 01:57:59,600
Speaker 4: kind of contract they signed. The prerequisite is you have

2262
01:57:59,640 --> 01:58:01,560
Speaker 4: to have an net loss of free agents. You have

2263
01:58:01,600 --> 01:58:04,640
Speaker 4: to lose more than you signed in the free agent period.

2264
01:58:04,640 --> 01:58:08,480
Speaker 4: And I don't know that that's the case. So there's that.

2265
01:58:10,120 --> 01:58:13,360
Speaker 4: Let's go back to the phones into Mark and Jersey

2266
01:58:13,440 --> 01:58:14,520
Speaker 4: City next. What you got first?

2267
01:58:14,520 --> 01:58:18,960
Speaker 8: Mark, Good afternoon, gentlemen. I love the Kincaid pick. I

2268
01:58:19,000 --> 01:58:22,120
Speaker 8: go back to the day after the season ended, McDermott

2269
01:58:22,120 --> 01:58:25,240
Speaker 8: was up there talking about matchups, guys who were playmakers.

2270
01:58:25,520 --> 01:58:27,600
Speaker 8: That was the day after the season. There was three

2271
01:58:27,640 --> 01:58:31,040
Speaker 8: different times he said in that press conference matchups, playmakers,

2272
01:58:31,600 --> 01:58:33,840
Speaker 8: and then go to the other side of the ball tonight.

2273
01:58:35,080 --> 01:58:38,760
Speaker 8: You always go to bean Oh your last game, you know,

2274
01:58:38,840 --> 01:58:43,400
Speaker 8: tells the tale in the whole season. Defensive tackle, calf injuries,

2275
01:58:43,480 --> 01:58:46,000
Speaker 8: injuries from week one, from Oliver all the way down

2276
01:58:46,040 --> 01:58:50,280
Speaker 8: to Settle to Jordan Phillips. The guys that they had

2277
01:58:50,320 --> 01:58:54,440
Speaker 8: in Dexter Lsu, kid Roy, I would look for them.

2278
01:58:54,800 --> 01:58:58,080
Speaker 8: And then safety, that was the other position that just

2279
01:58:58,480 --> 01:59:00,360
Speaker 8: killed them. Who killed them in the playoff game. Kind

2280
01:59:00,360 --> 01:59:04,560
Speaker 8: of a hidden guy, Hayden Hurst. He really was a

2281
01:59:04,600 --> 01:59:09,080
Speaker 8: problem for them. And the kid you just mentioned, a

2282
01:59:09,160 --> 01:59:15,040
Speaker 8: small school guy, Marte Mote. They were going to draft

2283
01:59:15,480 --> 01:59:19,760
Speaker 8: Kyle Duggar, big Nickel mcdermot's taking over the defense. Remember

2284
01:59:19,800 --> 01:59:24,880
Speaker 8: Shaq Thompson in Carolina. They drafted him in the first round.

2285
01:59:25,120 --> 01:59:28,520
Speaker 8: He played backer, he played nicol he played corner, an athlete.

2286
01:59:29,080 --> 01:59:32,080
Speaker 8: This guy's got an eighty inch wingspan, thirty four inch arms,

2287
01:59:32,200 --> 01:59:35,040
Speaker 8: So I would look for him in the third round

2288
01:59:35,520 --> 01:59:38,040
Speaker 8: if they trade down. Those are my two guys tonight.

2289
01:59:38,240 --> 01:59:42,720
Speaker 4: All right, thanks very much, Mark, Marte Mapu Sacramento State.

2290
01:59:42,800 --> 01:59:47,080
Speaker 4: We just had Greg Cosell kind of review him. Played safety,

2291
01:59:47,120 --> 01:59:51,040
Speaker 4: he played nickel and he is projected to play linebacker.

2292
01:59:51,040 --> 01:59:53,760
Speaker 4: I think it's because he's a little stiff in the hips. Steve.

2293
01:59:54,040 --> 01:59:56,600
Speaker 4: I actually, I don't know how. I found some tape

2294
01:59:56,640 --> 02:00:00,280
Speaker 4: of Sacramento State out there on the in cyberspace. Little

2295
02:00:00,280 --> 02:00:04,880
Speaker 4: stiff in the hips. But when this guy closes, it

2296
02:00:05,000 --> 02:00:09,720
Speaker 4: happens quickly, like he gets to the ball carrier fast,

2297
02:00:09,920 --> 02:00:12,640
Speaker 4: like he just plants and drives, or he triggers and

2298
02:00:12,720 --> 02:00:17,280
Speaker 4: he is on the ball in a shot. I don't

2299
02:00:17,320 --> 02:00:20,880
Speaker 4: you know where does he line up? Probably linebacker, because

2300
02:00:20,880 --> 02:00:24,240
Speaker 4: I don't think he's got the athleticism to play you know, safety,

2301
02:00:24,280 --> 02:00:26,480
Speaker 4: certainly not the deep half. If he was a safety,

2302
02:00:26,480 --> 02:00:29,640
Speaker 4: you'd be a box only guy. And even then I'd

2303
02:00:29,680 --> 02:00:32,000
Speaker 4: be a little worried about him covering slot receivers and stuff.

2304
02:00:32,000 --> 02:00:34,040
Speaker 4: I don't think he's capable of doing that. I think

2305
02:00:34,040 --> 02:00:37,360
Speaker 4: he could cover a tight end though he's got the

2306
02:00:37,400 --> 02:00:39,240
Speaker 4: size to do that. He's just a little stiff in

2307
02:00:39,280 --> 02:00:43,040
Speaker 4: the hips, so his hip flip isn't great. But he's

2308
02:00:43,080 --> 02:00:45,360
Speaker 4: got some tools. He'd be interesting in the third round.

2309
02:00:46,080 --> 02:00:49,440
Speaker 4: And it's not a strong, you know, safety class, it's

2310
02:00:49,480 --> 02:00:51,400
Speaker 4: not a strong linebacker class. You got somebody that can

2311
02:00:51,440 --> 02:00:54,240
Speaker 4: do both again, what are we talking about positionless football?

2312
02:00:54,720 --> 02:00:56,720
Speaker 9: Yeah, you get these guys that can where you know

2313
02:00:56,760 --> 02:01:01,520
Speaker 9: you The reason you want positionless football, particularly on defense,

2314
02:01:01,680 --> 02:01:04,840
Speaker 9: is because then you become difficult to identify and get right.

2315
02:01:05,680 --> 02:01:09,200
Speaker 9: Offensive players, particularly offensive lineman needs to know who's who.

2316
02:01:09,360 --> 02:01:12,200
Speaker 9: And that's why you hear the quarterback go hey, fifty

2317
02:01:12,280 --> 02:01:15,000
Speaker 9: six is the mic backer, or forty two is the

2318
02:01:15,040 --> 02:01:18,400
Speaker 9: mic backer, twenty eight is the mic backer. That's where

2319
02:01:18,400 --> 02:01:21,480
Speaker 9: everybody that's the anchor of the defense that the offense

2320
02:01:21,760 --> 02:01:24,920
Speaker 9: is designating as where you start you're counting from. So

2321
02:01:25,000 --> 02:01:27,080
Speaker 9: if that's the mic guy, got this guy, and he's

2322
02:01:27,080 --> 02:01:29,640
Speaker 9: got that guy, and he's got the other guy. If

2323
02:01:29,680 --> 02:01:32,720
Speaker 9: you start messing with that and you start making it

2324
02:01:32,760 --> 02:01:36,760
Speaker 9: impossible for the offense to pick the guys that you

2325
02:01:36,880 --> 02:01:39,880
Speaker 9: decide as the mic backer, they can choose whoever they want,

2326
02:01:39,920 --> 02:01:42,600
Speaker 9: and they could be wrong, and you've got offensive linemen

2327
02:01:42,720 --> 02:01:46,840
Speaker 9: blocking nobody and a guy coming off the other side untouched.

2328
02:01:47,200 --> 02:01:51,840
Speaker 9: It's confusing when you've got positionless defenders. But if you're

2329
02:01:51,840 --> 02:01:57,400
Speaker 9: gonna have positionless defenders, that means they got to be big,

2330
02:01:57,640 --> 02:02:00,080
Speaker 9: fast and strong and can cover and can rush the

2331
02:02:00,120 --> 02:02:03,480
Speaker 9: passer and can stop the run, and that's a long

2332
02:02:03,520 --> 02:02:05,720
Speaker 9: list of things that it's hard to find guys who

2333
02:02:05,720 --> 02:02:07,880
Speaker 9: can do one of those things well, let alone five

2334
02:02:07,920 --> 02:02:11,960
Speaker 9: of those things. Well, So more and more you get

2335
02:02:12,040 --> 02:02:13,760
Speaker 9: more guys like that who can do a lot of

2336
02:02:13,760 --> 02:02:16,920
Speaker 9: that stuff, who are big enough, like you know, Micah

2337
02:02:16,960 --> 02:02:21,880
Speaker 9: Parsons kind of guys. But you see how rare he is, right,

2338
02:02:22,080 --> 02:02:24,800
Speaker 9: So that's what you're looking for. If a guy can

2339
02:02:25,240 --> 02:02:29,000
Speaker 9: cover and do something else really well, cover and stop

2340
02:02:29,040 --> 02:02:32,680
Speaker 9: the run, or cover and rush the passer or whatever,

2341
02:02:34,280 --> 02:02:37,240
Speaker 9: you got a guy. And the more of those guys

2342
02:02:37,240 --> 02:02:39,160
Speaker 9: you get, the better. But the problem is when they

2343
02:02:39,160 --> 02:02:41,640
Speaker 9: get fast, they start to get small, and then you

2344
02:02:41,680 --> 02:02:42,520
Speaker 9: get pushed around.

2345
02:02:43,000 --> 02:02:44,880
Speaker 4: Break time for us here, more of your phone calls.

2346
02:02:44,880 --> 02:02:47,080
Speaker 4: Next on one Bill's Live presented by co Lot of Health.

2347
02:02:47,120 --> 02:02:52,200
Speaker 4: It's Buffalo Bills Radio. They're shooting right back to the phones.

2348
02:02:52,240 --> 02:02:54,720
Speaker 4: Here your thoughts on the Kencaid pick last night, and

2349
02:02:54,760 --> 02:02:56,720
Speaker 4: who are your favorites for the Bills on night two

2350
02:02:56,760 --> 02:03:00,240
Speaker 4: of the draft, And we go back to Bubba in

2351
02:03:00,360 --> 02:03:03,000
Speaker 4: Northern PA. What do you got for us? Bubba?

2352
02:03:04,000 --> 02:03:09,520
Speaker 2: I watched the entire Florida Georgia game and Osiris stonewalled.

2353
02:03:10,880 --> 02:03:12,000
Speaker 4: Jalen car and Carter.

2354
02:03:12,320 --> 02:03:18,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, he stonewalled and Osiris has a little mean streak

2355
02:03:18,160 --> 02:03:20,720
Speaker 2: to him. He doesn't give up on his blocks, chill,

2356
02:03:20,800 --> 02:03:21,760
Speaker 2: he pancakes them.

2357
02:03:22,200 --> 02:03:26,600
Speaker 4: So that's your pick for tonight for Buffalo, Yes, all right,

2358
02:03:27,160 --> 02:03:28,000
Speaker 4: I can get behind him.

2359
02:03:28,000 --> 02:03:29,320
Speaker 2: I think he'll be there later on.

2360
02:03:29,920 --> 02:03:33,000
Speaker 9: Yeah. And I'll say this not for nothing, but early on,

2361
02:03:33,120 --> 02:03:36,880
Speaker 9: Osiris Torrance was mocked to the Bills in at twenty seven,

2362
02:03:37,400 --> 02:03:40,400
Speaker 9: you know, before the draft came in. So a lot

2363
02:03:40,480 --> 02:03:43,640
Speaker 9: of people think he's a really valuable player and are

2364
02:03:43,720 --> 02:03:46,960
Speaker 9: probably a little bit surprised he's still available today, let

2365
02:03:47,000 --> 02:03:50,760
Speaker 9: alone tonight at fifty nine. I kind of doubt he

2366
02:03:50,800 --> 02:03:54,800
Speaker 9: will be. But if he is, I'm with you, I'm

2367
02:03:54,840 --> 02:03:58,080
Speaker 9: fine with him. There's there's about four or five interior

2368
02:03:58,120 --> 02:04:00,880
Speaker 9: offensive lineman i'd love to get my hands on as

2369
02:04:00,920 --> 02:04:04,160
Speaker 9: a Buffalo Bill. Yeah, and you just got to sit

2370
02:04:04,160 --> 02:04:05,760
Speaker 9: here and wait to see if any of them make

2371
02:04:05,800 --> 02:04:06,320
Speaker 9: it that far.

2372
02:04:06,520 --> 02:04:08,600
Speaker 4: I don't know that they will. As we said earlier,

2373
02:04:08,720 --> 02:04:12,080
Speaker 4: only one interior offensive lineman went in Round one. That

2374
02:04:12,160 --> 02:04:16,360
Speaker 4: was Peter Skronsky out of Northwestern. I think there's gonna

2375
02:04:16,360 --> 02:04:19,360
Speaker 4: be an early run on guys like Osirahs Torrence Steve Avila,

2376
02:04:19,480 --> 02:04:22,560
Speaker 4: Joe Tipman, John Michael Schmidz. These guys are gonna come

2377
02:04:22,560 --> 02:04:25,520
Speaker 4: off the board fast. I think they're all going in

2378
02:04:25,560 --> 02:04:28,040
Speaker 4: the top fifty here, and as we know, the Bills

2379
02:04:28,040 --> 02:04:31,160
Speaker 4: pick fifty ninth, so they might be on the outside

2380
02:04:31,600 --> 02:04:35,120
Speaker 4: looking in. Back to the phones into Rodney and Tonawanda.

2381
02:04:35,200 --> 02:04:41,200
Speaker 4: What do you got first, Rodney.

2382
02:04:39,000 --> 02:04:43,960
Speaker 6: Sorry about that. I'm an old school person and basically

2383
02:04:44,000 --> 02:04:46,280
Speaker 6: all I want to say is that the line on

2384
02:04:46,400 --> 02:04:51,560
Speaker 6: both sides of the ball runs everything. I think that

2385
02:04:51,640 --> 02:04:55,480
Speaker 6: we need to just go and get us offensive lineman

2386
02:04:55,520 --> 02:04:57,880
Speaker 6: on one side, defensive lineman on the second side.

2387
02:04:58,440 --> 02:05:02,160
Speaker 4: Do you prefer defense? You tackle pass rusher for d line.

2388
02:05:03,160 --> 02:05:06,080
Speaker 6: It doesn't matter, okay, the way the game goes, the

2389
02:05:06,080 --> 02:05:08,680
Speaker 6: way the game goes. If your line is good on

2390
02:05:08,720 --> 02:05:11,520
Speaker 6: the offensive side, you don't need a special running back.

2391
02:05:11,960 --> 02:05:15,840
Speaker 6: You don't need a special wide receiver, your quarterback and hit.

2392
02:05:15,920 --> 02:05:20,320
Speaker 6: Everybody's got time. That's Josh's problem. We're not problem, but

2393
02:05:20,360 --> 02:05:23,240
Speaker 6: that's one of the things. Josh doesn't have enough time.

2394
02:05:23,840 --> 02:05:26,120
Speaker 6: As soon as he gets his time, he'll kill you.

2395
02:05:26,160 --> 02:05:29,240
Speaker 6: He's done it early last year in the beginning games,

2396
02:05:29,480 --> 02:05:31,920
Speaker 6: when he started rushing them and putting the pressure on them,

2397
02:05:32,160 --> 02:05:36,240
Speaker 6: things fall down. Even at the running back position. If

2398
02:05:36,240 --> 02:05:39,680
Speaker 6: you got a line that's putting holes in the defense,

2399
02:05:40,120 --> 02:05:42,440
Speaker 6: I can get a thousand yards. And I'm seventy two

2400
02:05:42,520 --> 02:05:47,640
Speaker 6: years old. So with that said, the defense and the

2401
02:05:47,720 --> 02:05:52,560
Speaker 6: offensive lines are the key to any football team. They

2402
02:05:52,560 --> 02:05:54,560
Speaker 6: said it last night. I don't know how many times

2403
02:05:55,000 --> 02:05:57,680
Speaker 6: you know, they say, you're better teams have the boys

2404
02:05:57,760 --> 02:06:00,960
Speaker 6: up front, you have the protection, you have the and

2405
02:06:01,000 --> 02:06:03,920
Speaker 6: you have to pursue. Your linebacker doesn't have to be

2406
02:06:04,000 --> 02:06:06,920
Speaker 6: top match. He can just be well, he's.

2407
02:06:06,800 --> 02:06:07,360
Speaker 2: Got to be good.

2408
02:06:07,720 --> 02:06:12,400
Speaker 6: But with the defensive line putting the pressure on, you know,

2409
02:06:12,480 --> 02:06:16,920
Speaker 6: the safety, the linebackers, everybody, it's all low hanging fruit.

2410
02:06:17,840 --> 02:06:19,080
Speaker 6: And that's what all I wanted to say.

2411
02:06:19,360 --> 02:06:20,680
Speaker 3: Let's just go get us some hogs.

2412
02:06:20,840 --> 02:06:24,880
Speaker 9: Yeah, thanks, n I'm with you on that. I think

2413
02:06:25,600 --> 02:06:28,400
Speaker 9: if there's one of these high end guys there at

2414
02:06:28,440 --> 02:06:30,720
Speaker 9: fifty nine, I think there's no question I'd be happy

2415
02:06:30,760 --> 02:06:37,640
Speaker 9: to take him defensive tackle, offensive tackle, offensive guard. I'd

2416
02:06:37,720 --> 02:06:40,200
Speaker 9: rather go with defensive tackle than defensive end or edge

2417
02:06:40,280 --> 02:06:42,440
Speaker 9: rusher because I think Vaughn's going to come back and

2418
02:06:42,480 --> 02:06:44,440
Speaker 9: hit it hard. I think Rousseau's gonna spread his wings

2419
02:06:44,440 --> 02:06:48,400
Speaker 9: a little bit more this year, Boogie Epanesa. All those

2420
02:06:48,440 --> 02:06:52,720
Speaker 9: guys coming back and the contract situation with the defensive tackles,

2421
02:06:52,760 --> 02:06:56,320
Speaker 9: you'd love to have at least one guy under under

2422
02:06:56,360 --> 02:07:01,440
Speaker 9: contracts past this year. Not that that's a deal. It's

2423
02:07:01,480 --> 02:07:03,920
Speaker 9: a little bit of a deal, but it's not. It's

2424
02:07:03,960 --> 02:07:06,480
Speaker 9: not a deal breaker for any position you want to draft.

2425
02:07:08,680 --> 02:07:11,760
Speaker 9: But I'm I'm all about big guys. Maybe it's because

2426
02:07:11,800 --> 02:07:14,080
Speaker 9: I grew up in a little body and played in

2427
02:07:14,120 --> 02:07:18,560
Speaker 9: the NFL. I'm you know, size means something, and they're

2428
02:07:18,600 --> 02:07:20,360
Speaker 9: not easy to find those guys. So I think if

2429
02:07:20,400 --> 02:07:21,880
Speaker 9: you can find a really good one, to get.

2430
02:07:21,840 --> 02:07:26,360
Speaker 4: Him all right. So, speaking of Day two prospects, Steve,

2431
02:07:26,400 --> 02:07:29,880
Speaker 4: it is time for us to list our favorites, our

2432
02:07:30,000 --> 02:07:35,360
Speaker 4: hopefuls for the Bills tonight in round two and round three.

2433
02:07:35,720 --> 02:07:42,360
Speaker 9: What say you, I will say, Joe Tipman, Cyrus Torrance,

2434
02:07:42,400 --> 02:07:43,920
Speaker 9: Steve Avila or Cody.

2435
02:07:43,720 --> 02:07:46,360
Speaker 4: Mak Okay, So you're a O line and you are

2436
02:07:46,480 --> 02:07:48,240
Speaker 4: all in all interior as well.

2437
02:07:48,320 --> 02:07:50,400
Speaker 9: Yeah, those guys are all inside. That's where I'm That's

2438
02:07:50,440 --> 02:07:51,000
Speaker 9: where I'm at.

2439
02:07:51,160 --> 02:07:53,760
Speaker 4: I still have my fingers crossed for Drew Sanders, the

2440
02:07:53,800 --> 02:07:57,680
Speaker 4: linebacker from Arkansas, and then after that, I'm going hard

2441
02:07:57,760 --> 02:08:02,400
Speaker 4: after a DT here. Yeah, Keanu Benton, Benton's got a

2442
02:08:02,480 --> 02:08:05,840
Speaker 4: chance mate a guy I like, and I like Zach

2443
02:08:05,920 --> 02:08:10,360
Speaker 4: Pickens from South Carolina as well. And then after that,

2444
02:08:11,320 --> 02:08:13,920
Speaker 4: it's kind of best on the board for me. If stuff,

2445
02:08:14,000 --> 02:08:17,240
Speaker 4: you know, trickles through. I don't know why, I just

2446
02:08:17,320 --> 02:08:21,160
Speaker 4: have this suspicion that well, I think there's gonna be

2447
02:08:21,160 --> 02:08:24,120
Speaker 4: a run on corners here to start, because there's some

2448
02:08:24,200 --> 02:08:27,120
Speaker 4: guys that trickle down to round two. Brian Branch, Joey

2449
02:08:27,160 --> 02:08:33,560
Speaker 4: Porter Junior, kid like Clark Phillips from Utah could go early,

2450
02:08:34,440 --> 02:08:37,840
Speaker 4: maybe a few others, and I think the interior line

2451
02:08:37,880 --> 02:08:39,560
Speaker 4: is going to see some guys come off the board

2452
02:08:39,600 --> 02:08:44,320
Speaker 4: early too, So be very interesting to see how this

2453
02:08:44,360 --> 02:08:46,760
Speaker 4: thing shakes out in the first ten picks. I think

2454
02:08:46,800 --> 02:08:50,120
Speaker 4: that will spell out pretty quickly what the Bills will

2455
02:08:50,160 --> 02:08:52,600
Speaker 4: be looking at way down there at fifty nine. It's

2456
02:08:52,640 --> 02:08:56,320
Speaker 4: gonna be a long wait. And as much as Bills

2457
02:08:56,360 --> 02:08:59,160
Speaker 4: fans have called in today and said, hey, trade up

2458
02:08:59,200 --> 02:09:01,280
Speaker 4: if you find somebody you like, I don't know that

2459
02:09:01,320 --> 02:09:03,880
Speaker 4: Brandon Bean wants to do that at this point, knowing

2460
02:09:03,920 --> 02:09:06,760
Speaker 4: he only has four picks, left at his disposal. Yeah,

2461
02:09:06,800 --> 02:09:10,760
Speaker 4: if anything, he might move back. If he doesn't, if

2462
02:09:10,760 --> 02:09:12,480
Speaker 4: he's not thrilled with us in front of him, he's

2463
02:09:12,480 --> 02:09:16,000
Speaker 4: probably gonna move back and try to get a pick back. Yeah,

2464
02:09:16,360 --> 02:09:18,160
Speaker 4: at least get back to six, which is what he

2465
02:09:18,160 --> 02:09:18,839
Speaker 4: had originally.

2466
02:09:19,120 --> 02:09:22,880
Speaker 9: Right, it's gonna be a sparse class. I mean, there's

2467
02:09:22,880 --> 02:09:23,680
Speaker 9: no getting around it.

2468
02:09:23,720 --> 02:09:23,920
Speaker 5: Now.

2469
02:09:24,240 --> 02:09:26,760
Speaker 4: You have a fat undrafted class though exactly.

2470
02:09:27,480 --> 02:09:30,040
Speaker 9: And there'll be some guys that will make some waves

2471
02:09:30,120 --> 02:09:35,640
Speaker 9: during training camp. We always see it, though not a

2472
02:09:35,680 --> 02:09:37,600
Speaker 9: lot of them make it into the final run. They

2473
02:09:37,640 --> 02:09:39,000
Speaker 9: make it in the final roster, but they don't make

2474
02:09:39,000 --> 02:09:42,520
Speaker 9: a wave during the season. Because the roster in Buffalo,

2475
02:09:43,960 --> 02:09:46,200
Speaker 9: whether we like it or not. You know, despite the

2476
02:09:46,200 --> 02:09:48,840
Speaker 9: way the season ended this last year, it's top heavy

2477
02:09:49,880 --> 02:09:53,160
Speaker 9: at the top of this roster at every position are

2478
02:09:54,480 --> 02:09:57,720
Speaker 9: It's a really good roster. And no matter what these

2479
02:09:57,720 --> 02:09:59,920
Speaker 9: guys look like in training camp, it's gonna be hard

2480
02:09:59,920 --> 02:10:03,080
Speaker 9: to bust into this starting lineup anywhere on either side

2481
02:10:03,120 --> 02:10:07,080
Speaker 9: of the ball. And if this team stays healthy, you'll

2482
02:10:07,120 --> 02:10:09,440
Speaker 9: never see one of these draft picks this year. Maybe

2483
02:10:09,480 --> 02:10:12,600
Speaker 9: Kencaid you'll see because there's only two tight ends other

2484
02:10:12,640 --> 02:10:15,200
Speaker 9: than him on the on the roster and other than that,

2485
02:10:15,320 --> 02:10:21,600
Speaker 9: if if this roster stays healthy, you ain't seeing these guys.

2486
02:10:22,120 --> 02:10:27,000
Speaker 9: They're too good. And I know it's sacrilege because you know,

2487
02:10:27,000 --> 02:10:29,320
Speaker 9: you got these all these critics out there say, well,

2488
02:10:29,320 --> 02:10:31,360
Speaker 9: you didn't win the Super Bowl and you look horrible

2489
02:10:31,360 --> 02:10:33,000
Speaker 9: in your last game. Let me tell you something. This

2490
02:10:33,040 --> 02:10:35,080
Speaker 9: is a really good football team and they're gonna they're

2491
02:10:36,280 --> 02:10:38,760
Speaker 9: they're a wrecking crew and they're gonna prove it again

2492
02:10:38,880 --> 02:10:41,480
Speaker 9: this year and they're gonna be in the conversation at

2493
02:10:41,520 --> 02:10:44,600
Speaker 9: the end of it. And unless something goes that's again

2494
02:10:44,760 --> 02:10:49,880
Speaker 9: outside of their control, that conspires to sabotage them, they're

2495
02:10:49,880 --> 02:10:51,800
Speaker 9: gonna be in the conversation again to go to the

2496
02:10:51,800 --> 02:10:55,760
Speaker 9: super Bowl. So you know, these draft picks are all

2497
02:10:55,800 --> 02:10:59,440
Speaker 9: fun and King Kaid may have a shot at being

2498
02:10:59,480 --> 02:11:03,040
Speaker 9: a contribute, but this is a tough roster to get

2499
02:11:03,040 --> 02:11:06,360
Speaker 9: close enough to the field to contribute. Most of these

2500
02:11:06,360 --> 02:11:08,320
Speaker 9: guys are going to be slapping fannies as they come

2501
02:11:08,320 --> 02:11:12,280
Speaker 9: off the field, high fives, high fiving, and handing guys

2502
02:11:12,320 --> 02:11:17,120
Speaker 9: glasses of water. That's just the way it is. This

2503
02:11:17,160 --> 02:11:19,480
Speaker 9: is a really good roster and it's fun to talk

2504
02:11:19,520 --> 02:11:21,280
Speaker 9: about these guys, and some of them may be really

2505
02:11:21,360 --> 02:11:25,320
Speaker 9: good pros, really good, but man, oh man, this is

2506
02:11:25,320 --> 02:11:29,320
Speaker 9: a good roster right now. So I'm cooling my jets

2507
02:11:29,320 --> 02:11:31,000
Speaker 9: a hair here, but I know that there's some guys

2508
02:11:31,040 --> 02:11:33,920
Speaker 9: down inside. There's still guys on this draft board. If

2509
02:11:33,920 --> 02:11:35,720
Speaker 9: you have your pick, if we are the next team

2510
02:11:35,720 --> 02:11:38,760
Speaker 9: to pick, they got a chance to really do something

2511
02:11:38,800 --> 02:11:41,880
Speaker 9: for this team. But we don't pick right next.

2512
02:11:41,920 --> 02:11:44,840
Speaker 4: Right break time for us. Here we come back with

2513
02:11:44,960 --> 02:11:47,720
Speaker 4: some final thoughts about Night two of the draft coming

2514
02:11:47,800 --> 02:12:05,680
Speaker 4: up next here on one Bill's Live Stay two. All right, so, Steve,

2515
02:12:05,760 --> 02:12:08,880
Speaker 4: we do know that the Pittsburgh Steelers have pick thirty

2516
02:12:08,880 --> 02:12:12,480
Speaker 4: two to start Night two. We also heard reports that

2517
02:12:12,520 --> 02:12:15,520
Speaker 4: they were fielding phone calls last night for that pick,

2518
02:12:15,560 --> 02:12:19,520
Speaker 4: even before the first round was over, presumably teams hot

2519
02:12:19,560 --> 02:12:23,760
Speaker 4: on the trails of one of the quarterbacks, knowing that

2520
02:12:24,000 --> 02:12:28,520
Speaker 4: only three quarterbacks went in Round one. Levis and Hendon

2521
02:12:28,560 --> 02:12:32,000
Speaker 4: Hooker are still out there. Do you think the Steelers

2522
02:12:32,320 --> 02:12:34,320
Speaker 4: keep the pick or move out of the pick?

2523
02:12:35,000 --> 02:12:35,120
Speaker 25: Oh?

2524
02:12:35,160 --> 02:12:37,920
Speaker 9: I think they trade out of it. I think they

2525
02:12:37,960 --> 02:12:39,960
Speaker 9: trade out of it. Too many teams wont it just

2526
02:12:40,000 --> 02:12:42,560
Speaker 9: it's an auction, and at that point somebody will overpay

2527
02:12:42,600 --> 02:12:44,040
Speaker 9: because they got to get the guy.

2528
02:12:45,440 --> 02:12:48,320
Speaker 4: They're in the catbird seat, they're in a good spot.

2529
02:12:48,440 --> 02:12:52,000
Speaker 9: They pick all they have two picks in that round anyway,

2530
02:12:53,040 --> 02:12:55,360
Speaker 9: they've got the Let me just make sure I get.

2531
02:12:55,240 --> 02:12:56,160
Speaker 4: Pick at forty eight.

2532
02:12:56,200 --> 02:13:00,800
Speaker 9: I think in thirty two forty nine on.

2533
02:13:00,760 --> 02:13:03,280
Speaker 4: That they already have two there. They could slide back

2534
02:13:03,440 --> 02:13:07,200
Speaker 4: like six or eight picks, so they still have two two's,

2535
02:13:07,400 --> 02:13:09,000
Speaker 4: and then they pick up another three.

2536
02:13:09,200 --> 02:13:11,920
Speaker 9: The question is who's gonna want to trade up for

2537
02:13:11,960 --> 02:13:12,560
Speaker 9: that spot?

2538
02:13:13,360 --> 02:13:13,600
Speaker 5: You know?

2539
02:13:13,920 --> 02:13:16,000
Speaker 9: I mean you look at the first ten picks from

2540
02:13:16,000 --> 02:13:18,280
Speaker 9: thirty two down to forty two. It's Green Bay, Tennessee,

2541
02:13:18,360 --> 02:13:22,000
Speaker 9: New Orleans, penn Arolina, Vegas, Seattle.

2542
02:13:21,720 --> 02:13:27,120
Speaker 4: Tennessee's after a quarterback. Yeah, maybe maybe I wouldn't count

2543
02:13:27,120 --> 02:13:34,040
Speaker 4: out Atlanta, right, I mean, they've got They've got Bijon Robinson,

2544
02:13:34,280 --> 02:13:37,960
Speaker 4: Kyle Pitts, and Drake London at the skill positions and

2545
02:13:38,080 --> 02:13:39,600
Speaker 4: Desmond Ritter at quarterback.

2546
02:13:40,920 --> 02:13:42,600
Speaker 9: One of these things is not like the others.

2547
02:13:42,840 --> 02:13:45,800
Speaker 4: Yikes. That's it for us today. Hope you enjoy the

2548
02:13:45,840 --> 02:13:49,040
Speaker 4: extra hour we'll see on Monday to wrap up the draft.

2549
02:13:49,200 --> 02:13:55,720
Speaker 4: Enjoy Day two and Day three