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Speaker 1: This episode contains content that may be disturbing to some listeners.

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Speaker 1: Please check the show notes for more information. Disgraceland is

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Speaker 1: a production of Double Elvis. The stories about Scott Wiland

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Speaker 1: are insane. He was sent to a psych ward at

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Speaker 1: the age of sixteen. He went to rehab thirteen times

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Speaker 1: thirteen times in three years for addictions to heroin and cocaine.

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Speaker 1: Those addictions caused him to hallucinate quote unquote demonic forces,

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Speaker 1: forces which he claimed tried to harm him in his

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Speaker 1: own house, not unlike the real forces of evil, three

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Speaker 1: muggers in Paris who abducted him and nearly killed him.

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Speaker 1: Scott Wiland, course did not die at the hands of

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Speaker 1: French thugs, but instead by the grip of his own habit,

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Speaker 1: which took his life at the age of forty eight,

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Speaker 1: leaving behind great music, music made as the front man

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Speaker 1: of Stone Temple, Pilots and later Velvet Revolver. Unlike that

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Speaker 1: clip I played for you at the top of the show,

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Speaker 1: that wasn't great music. That was a preset loop form

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Speaker 1: my mellotron called Sentimental Shuffle MK. Two. I played you

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Speaker 1: that loop because I can't afford the rights to Genie

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Speaker 1: in a Bottle by Christina Aguilera, And why would I

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Speaker 1: play you that specific slice of rub me the right way? Cheese?

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Speaker 1: Could I afford it? Because that was the number one

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Speaker 1: song in America on August thirteenth, nineteen ninety nine, And

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Speaker 1: that was the day that Scott Wiland was sentenced to

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Speaker 1: a year in prison for repeatedly violating his probation on

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Speaker 1: an earlier heroin Possession Church. On this episode, psych Wards Rehab,

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Speaker 1: Parisian Muggers, Demonic Forces and Scott WiLAN, I'm Jake Brennan,

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Speaker 1: and this is disgraceland. The buzz coming from the other

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Speaker 1: side of the door was splitting his skull in two.

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Speaker 1: Everything was shaking the floor, his hands, hands that were

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Speaker 1: holding the door in place, even though it was shut,

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Speaker 1: tight and locked. He wasn't taking any chances, not now,

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Speaker 1: not with those things out there. He watched their feet

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Speaker 1: paced the gap between the bottom of the door and

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Speaker 1: the hardwood. The dog saw them too. Otis his golden

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Speaker 1: retriever standing next to him, losing his shit, barking his

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Speaker 1: head off. From the other side of the door, muffled

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Speaker 1: voices talked amongst themselves. They knew he couldn't hide in

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Speaker 1: for this for them. He brought them here, his actions,

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Speaker 1: and if he was why they were here, then only

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Speaker 1: he could send them away back to Hell or wherever

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Speaker 1: it was that they came from. Only then would he survive.

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Speaker 1: That's what he told himself. He clenched his eyes shut,

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Speaker 1: and the buzzing sound grew louder. Concentrate, Think of strength,

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Speaker 1: think of power, think of the words. Think. Scott Wilin

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Speaker 1: opened his eyes. He was outside. The wind was brisk.

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Speaker 1: It carried away the sounds raging inside his head, just

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Speaker 1: like the memory of being locked inside his bathroom was

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Speaker 1: now being carried away with his breath and the cold

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Speaker 1: December air. Two thousand and eight, Paris, the place where

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Speaker 1: Scott Wiland was now alone, doing some soul searching and

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Speaker 1: getting his shit together. He was on the ropes, but

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Speaker 1: he had thick skin, a tough, leathery exterior, honed by

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Speaker 1: years as the front man of two popular rock and

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Speaker 1: roll bands, first Stone Temple Pilots and then Velvet Revolver.

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Speaker 1: You don't work at that heightened level of success, sell

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Speaker 1: millions of copies of albums year after year without taking

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Speaker 1: your fair share of licks. For every dude who called

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Speaker 1: him a rock star, someone else called him a poser.

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Speaker 1: Wyland could take his licks, though, but now he was

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Speaker 1: in and out of rehab. His marriage was ending. Stone

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Speaker 1: Temple Pilots were already over for now, and the same

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Speaker 1: drama that played out with that band was now playing

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Speaker 1: out with Velvet Revolver, a drama in which Scott Wiland

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Speaker 1: spiraled so far out of controlled that he eventually spiraled

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Speaker 1: himself right out of the grow fuck it. He put

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Speaker 1: the three dudes he'd just met on the street. They

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Speaker 1: his north faced jacket. He wasn't sure if they knew

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Speaker 1: his true identity. They simply promised a party, a great party,

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Speaker 1: not that far from where they were standing. Pretty good

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Speaker 1: chance to score some weed. Wiland knew what the guy's

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Speaker 1: in his band or his soon to be ex wife

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Speaker 1: was cocaine or heroin. It was just a little weed.

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Speaker 1: Weed never heard anyone. Weed never trapped him in a

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Speaker 1: he didn't want to think about that right now. Right now,

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Speaker 1: it just felt nice to be wanted, So Scott Wiland

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Speaker 1: They said it wasn't too far now, just a little

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Speaker 1: they were taking an on ramp to a freeway. The

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Speaker 1: of Tyis sizzled on the dark horizon. Scott asked how

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Speaker 1: much longer him? No one answered. He was getting nervous now,

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Speaker 1: but kept his cool. Eventually the car pulled off the

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Speaker 1: completely lost his bearings at this point. The driver turned

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Speaker 1: confusing him. They'd rob him, beat him, kill him, even

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Speaker 1: they didn't care. Scott Wild, on the other hand, cared

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Speaker 1: very much, not necessarily about his bands or his marriage,

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Speaker 1: His motivation was a primal one, that basic human instinct

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Speaker 1: to survive. It kicked in hard. He had to do something,

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Speaker 1: He had to escape. He grabbed the hands of the

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Speaker 1: it open, and the chili December air hit his face,

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Speaker 1: cold and unrelenting. The car was going at a fast cliff.

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Speaker 1: It was now or never. Don't even think about it,

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Speaker 1: just do it, Just jump. Nineteen ninety five, Pasadena, Scott

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Speaker 1: Wiland's body hit the pavement with great force. He didn't

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Speaker 1: so much feel the impact of the fall as he

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Speaker 1: felt that similar gnawing sensation continue to burn deep inside

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Speaker 1: Jesus Christ. He needed to fix bad, so bad that

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Speaker 1: He had no other choice. He had begged her to stop,

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Speaker 1: just swing him by a payphone so he could call

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Speaker 1: kept driving. She was on a mission, a mission which

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Speaker 1: Do not pass the dealer, do not collect more heroin.

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Speaker 1: But that's exactly what he was thinking about. It was

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Speaker 1: careless thinking, the type of thinking that got mbusted earlier

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Speaker 1: that evening during a deal gone bad. Now you're surely

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Speaker 1: That was a problem for future scott Wland to figure out.

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Speaker 1: Though current scott Island, present scott Island was in withdrawal.

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Speaker 1: Nothing was coming between him and more dope, not even

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Speaker 1: knew what would happen next. First walk, however many miles

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Speaker 1: it took to find his dealer, second blow through what

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Speaker 1: third stumble home high as shit, where Ginino would refuse

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Speaker 1: to let him back in, and to think things had

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Speaker 1: actually been well for once Stone Temple Pilots were just

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Speaker 1: was vindication. It was a great comeback to all the

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Speaker 1: critics who dunked on their debut, The ones who took

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Speaker 1: pleasure in humiliating them called them low rent pearl jam.

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Speaker 1: But STP wasn't grunge. STP was more glam less punk,

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Speaker 1: more pop less sludge. Great band. The de Leo brothers

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Speaker 1: Dean and Robert on guitar and bass, along with Eric

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Speaker 1: Kretz on drums, they were a dual engine, full throttle

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Speaker 1: rock and roll machine. Vasilene Interstate love song, Big Empty

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Speaker 1: Purple was all massive earworms, undeniable. Those already on board

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Speaker 1: It was big music for everyone. Unlike the album's cover artwork,

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Speaker 1: wink and a nod to those who braved the shittier

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Speaker 1: parts of downtown LA looking for their man. The illustration

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Speaker 1: was the exact same illustration that graced the baggies of

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Speaker 1: China White that Scott Wilde had grown partial to. In

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Speaker 1: his eyes, heroin and rock and roll were linked. The

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Speaker 1: couldn't hide forever. The car skidded to a stop. Scott

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Speaker 1: legs full stride, heart pumping, not fast enough, though. Two

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Speaker 1: It pierced the skin, blood splurted while he ran his

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Speaker 1: The two other guys were out of the car now

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Speaker 1: coming for him, and they were on him fast, knocked

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Speaker 1: Scott's balls, trying to snap his dick off with dirty metal.

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Speaker 1: Scott scraped himself across the dirt and launched an elbow

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Speaker 1: didn't stop. He ran harder. He leapt over bushes, He

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Speaker 1: and he covered himself in leaves. Ten twenty minutes passed nothing.

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Speaker 1: He was freezing. He didn't know where he was or

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Speaker 1: what he'd do next. He just knew that he was

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Speaker 1: not going to die, not here, not in Paris, not

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Speaker 1: seek out here in Paris, the thing that, against his

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Speaker 1: better judgment, he already went searching for when he accepted

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Speaker 1: the ride with those three thugs, thugs who certainly were

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Speaker 1: not representing the forces of good. They were with the

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Speaker 1: other forces in this world. Call it karma or an

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Speaker 1: occupational hazard if your occupation is a rock star, or

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Speaker 1: more to the point, a junkie, the very thing Scott

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Speaker 1: Weiland professed to be back when he was sixteen, before

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Speaker 1: he even knew what he was truly saying. Every time

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Speaker 1: to his lips, every time he felt the burn slide

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Speaker 1: down his throat and waited a nervous anticipation for the

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Speaker 1: hide a hit. Every time he surrendered himself to dope,

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Speaker 1: to junk, to rock, he was at their mercy, the

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Speaker 1: mercy of forces of evil, demonic forces. They conspired against him.

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Speaker 1: They pulled at him like that French asshole pulled at

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Speaker 1: his north faced jacket. He saw them with his own eyes.

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Speaker 1: Just recently, during a relapse back at his home, he

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Speaker 1: locked himself in the bathroom. Owedis set aside, pure uncut grade,

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Speaker 1: a hellspawn trying to exploit his sickness, his weakness, banging

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Speaker 1: on the door. Holy shit, do not let them in.

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Speaker 1: He was holding the bathroom door or shut now. The

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Speaker 1: dead bull rattled the wood, vibrated against his hands. That

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Speaker 1: buzzing sound rang out and spore his head into otis

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Speaker 1: was at his side, barking, clawing at the feet. They

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Speaker 1: both could see through the gap between the floor and

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Speaker 1: the bottom of the door. On the other side of

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Speaker 1: the door, they had manifested themselves, and they walked and

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Speaker 1: they talked, nothing he could actually understand, but they made noises.

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Speaker 1: They were real, a legion of evil, evil that didn't

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Speaker 1: have a name, but now had a shape of physical form,

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Speaker 1: summoned there by his lack of control, his lack of willpower.

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Speaker 1: He shut his eyes again, and the buzzing sound grew louder. Concentrate.

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Speaker 1: Think of strength, think of power. Think of the words,

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Speaker 1: the words from when you were a kid, words spoken

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Speaker 1: while you made the sign of the cross. He tried

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Speaker 1: to speak, but the forces were too powerful and they

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Speaker 1: wouldn't let him, so he thought of the words instead.

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Speaker 1: In the name of Jesus Christ, our God and Lord,

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Speaker 1: strengthened by the intercession of the Immaculate Virgin Mary, Mother

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Speaker 1: of God, of Blessed Michael, the Archangel of the blessed

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Speaker 1: Apostles Peter and Paul than all the saints. And the

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Speaker 1: door was shaking harder. Now something was trying to get through,

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Speaker 1: and he resisted. Otis howled keep thinking of the words

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Speaker 1: the prayer keep saying it in your head and powerful

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Speaker 1: in the holy authority of our ministry, we confidently undertake

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Speaker 1: to repulse the attacks and deceits of the devil. God arises,

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Speaker 1: His enemies are scattered, and those who hate him flee

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Speaker 1: before him as smoke is driven away. So they are

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Speaker 1: driven as wax melts before the fire. So the wicked

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Speaker 1: perish at the presence of God. More feet now appearing

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Speaker 1: at the foot of the door. More pressure, the buzzing, incessant,

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Speaker 1: non stop. We drive you from us, whoever you may be,

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Speaker 1: unclean spirits, all Satanic powers, all infernal invaders, all wicked legions,

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Speaker 1: assemblies and sects. God the Father commands you. God the Son,

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Speaker 1: he commands you. God the Holy Spirit commands you. One

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Speaker 1: by one. The feet retreated, the noises too. Everything was still.

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Speaker 1: Everything was quiet, even otice. But Scott Wiland was tired

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Speaker 1: on his last nerve, perhaps but thankfully not on his

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Speaker 1: last breath. He had thick skin stp velvet revolver, more

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Speaker 1: stints in the white walled rooms that he cared to remember,

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Speaker 1: and all of it only made his stromer as cliched

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Speaker 1: as that's saying was just as cliched as a rock

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Speaker 1: star on an off dope. Toughness though only matters so much.

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Speaker 1: It's the fatigue that gets you. And unlike those Parisian thugs,

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Speaker 1: the forces of evil would circle back once again. Deep down,

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Speaker 1: he knew this, and they kept coming because he kept using.

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Speaker 1: He couldn't hide from them forever, not in a bathroom

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Speaker 1: and not in a tour bus outside of Minneapolis, which

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Speaker 1: is where Scott Wiland's body was found on December third,

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Speaker 1: twenty fifteen, finally caught by his demons while sleeping, cocaine

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Speaker 1: ethanol MDA in his body, a small quantity of coke

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Speaker 1: by his side, Stripped of life, denied true purpose. Such

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Speaker 1: a disgrace, Jake Brennan and this this Disgraceland. Disgraceland was

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