WEBVTT - Hey Mr. D.J. Put a Record On with Zachary Throne 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:11.240 It's with Jenny Garth and Tory Spelling, everybody's favorite drug 0:00:11.280 --> 0:00:18.479 pusher from back in the day. I shouldn't call you that, 0:00:18.680 --> 0:00:24.000 Zach Sorry, um Howard. He played Howard in six episodes 0:00:24.079 --> 0:00:29.320 at California University's radio station k XCU. We have Zachary 0:00:29.400 --> 0:00:34.280 Throne with us today. Our good friend there is Hey, 0:00:34.560 --> 0:00:41.520 Zachary Throne. Hi, third, Hi, see you. It's been a minute, 0:00:41.520 --> 0:00:44.000 had Sorry, I have an eye patch. I have a 0:00:44.000 --> 0:00:48.680 little scratch on my eyeball, so just slept in my 0:00:48.760 --> 0:00:53.440 contacts my daily one's stupid move. But let's talk about you. 0:00:53.960 --> 0:01:00.320 I'm gee good. How has it been thirty? No? Twenty? Now? 0:01:00.400 --> 0:01:03.320 You were right the first time thirty over thirty years? 0:01:02.920 --> 0:01:06.720 Jee god, I think the last time I saw you, 0:01:06.920 --> 0:01:13.560 Jenny was I want to say, nineteen ninety four. Yeah, 0:01:13.600 --> 0:01:17.880 and me, Tory. I saw you at Jans Jane's addiction 0:01:17.920 --> 0:01:21.000 show in Las Vegas. Oh my god, I did see 0:01:21.040 --> 0:01:25.600 you there, Okay, ye, oh my gosh. Yes, I always 0:01:25.600 --> 0:01:28.000 counted by babies. I had four babies then, not five? Yes, 0:01:28.120 --> 0:01:32.399 right was see that was a crazy show that was 0:01:32.480 --> 0:01:34.720 so fun and they were hanging people by the backs 0:01:34.720 --> 0:01:38.320 of hugs. Yeah. It was wild. Yeah, it was really nuts. 0:01:38.920 --> 0:01:45.840 Oh my gosh. Um. Okay, we start about Howard. We've 0:01:45.840 --> 0:01:48.400 been watching this We're in season four on the podcast. 0:01:48.480 --> 0:01:51.000 We've been watching it back since the very beginning. And 0:01:51.560 --> 0:01:56.360 your you play Howard, who was the manager or the 0:01:56.360 --> 0:02:00.160 head guy right at the DJ for California Universe. You 0:02:00.200 --> 0:02:06.200 worked David and Donna worked David. Yeah, but Howard turned 0:02:06.200 --> 0:02:09.600 into a super shady kind of guy. Yeah, that was 0:02:09.639 --> 0:02:12.000 a big shift there. Did you know that was going 0:02:12.040 --> 0:02:15.720 to happen? Did you know your character was drug pusher, 0:02:16.040 --> 0:02:20.160 drug dealer? Not a clue. I remember when I got 0:02:20.200 --> 0:02:23.960 the job and my first scene was with tor And 0:02:23.960 --> 0:02:27.800 and Brian and they had these two dueling monologues and 0:02:27.840 --> 0:02:29.200 all I had to do was just look back and 0:02:29.200 --> 0:02:32.200 forth and be abused and then tell them I like 0:02:32.320 --> 0:02:35.040 you guys, you got the job. And I thought that's 0:02:35.120 --> 0:02:36.960 really where the character was just going to sort of be. 0:02:37.080 --> 0:02:38.600 I was going to be their boss and that was it. 0:02:39.400 --> 0:02:41.640 And then Brian came to me one day and he 0:02:41.639 --> 0:02:43.920 said I just got through talking with the producers and 0:02:43.960 --> 0:02:46.600 I said, oh, how'd it go? And he goes, my 0:02:46.639 --> 0:02:48.880 storyline is going to be I get addicted to Crystal 0:02:48.919 --> 0:02:54.560 Mass and I went, that's that's juicy. Yeah, he guys, yes, 0:02:54.600 --> 0:02:58.040 who gets me addicted? I went, who? He goes you 0:03:00.120 --> 0:03:03.080 so you found it? Then you're like, well, I guess 0:03:03.120 --> 0:03:06.680 I'm not going to be a series regular. Yeah, at 0:03:06.720 --> 0:03:10.520 a certain point, I'm going to be gone. But so 0:03:10.639 --> 0:03:13.079 my tenures limited. But yeah, he said, it's just we're 0:03:13.080 --> 0:03:15.440 gonna start, you know, playing that angle, and you're going 0:03:15.520 --> 0:03:19.480 to be my dealer and my boss. So I'm okay, 0:03:20.040 --> 0:03:22.560 how did you You were okay with it? I mean, 0:03:23.440 --> 0:03:27.000 oh yeah, I mean I it was I mean, first 0:03:27.040 --> 0:03:30.040 probably cool, like you probably like were like that sounds cool, 0:03:30.120 --> 0:03:33.680 like a meteor role, right, definitely, Because there was like 0:03:33.680 --> 0:03:36.320 the first three or so episodes I did, I just 0:03:36.360 --> 0:03:39.640 sort of I was just their boss. I just sat 0:03:39.800 --> 0:03:41.840 I sat Tory up with her microphone, and then I 0:03:41.880 --> 0:03:43.440 put her on the late shift and then they got 0:03:43.480 --> 0:03:46.680 into a fight because she stole So I was just 0:03:46.800 --> 0:03:49.600 sort of like this guy this, and then all of 0:03:49.640 --> 0:03:52.640 a sudden I had this agenda, you know where it's 0:03:52.680 --> 0:03:56.760 like I somehow have Crystal mess on me and Brian 0:03:56.880 --> 0:04:00.480 new somehow. Yeah, I just don't worry Avid. I have 0:04:00.560 --> 0:04:03.800 you taken care of crystal mess. So I just thought, well, 0:04:03.800 --> 0:04:05.880 this will be fun to play, and then me and 0:04:06.360 --> 0:04:08.440 Brian will get to have fun every day just doing 0:04:08.440 --> 0:04:13.120 this whole sort of dark turn and uh yeah it was. 0:04:13.520 --> 0:04:15.920 It just came out of sin air. Wow. Do you 0:04:15.960 --> 0:04:19.480 ever think, like in your head, like your head games, 0:04:19.760 --> 0:04:26.559 what was like Howard's backstory? Yeah, at the time, I did. Um. 0:04:26.600 --> 0:04:28.839 I thought, well, at the beginning, I thought, Okay, I 0:04:28.880 --> 0:04:30.839 got this job and I run. I run the radio 0:04:30.880 --> 0:04:34.839 station at the college. I'm into music and this station 0:04:34.920 --> 0:04:36.880 means a lot to me, so I only want to 0:04:36.960 --> 0:04:38.479 hire the best people. And you guys came on, you 0:04:38.520 --> 0:04:40.800 had that instant reports. I said, you guys got the job. 0:04:41.360 --> 0:04:43.520 But then when I became a crystal mess dealer, I went, okay, 0:04:43.560 --> 0:04:46.760 where do I go from here? Like I don't have 0:04:46.800 --> 0:04:49.760 a lot of experience dealing crystals. I think it's safe, 0:04:50.800 --> 0:04:54.919 so um. But again, yeah, I just thought, well, you know, 0:04:54.960 --> 0:04:58.080 he understands this lifestyle of you have to do these 0:04:58.120 --> 0:05:01.760 graveyard shifts and then stay up, so he's just like 0:05:01.760 --> 0:05:03.960 a season vet. So of course he'll have some kind 0:05:03.960 --> 0:05:08.560 of potion that'll help you. Well that's where I ran with. 0:05:08.600 --> 0:05:11.040 I don't know now Originally you did a show called 0:05:11.040 --> 0:05:13.719 The Heights for my Dad, which was also on Fox, 0:05:15.440 --> 0:05:18.359 which Jamie Walters was also your co star in it, 0:05:18.440 --> 0:05:22.000 which he comes next season on two nine two and yeah, 0:05:22.880 --> 0:05:27.760 so it was like family. Yeah, and obviously The Heights 0:05:27.800 --> 0:05:31.640 you were all musicians and real musicians, and that made sense. 0:05:31.680 --> 0:05:33.719 So I'm sure that's why my dad was like, Okay, 0:05:33.720 --> 0:05:35.720 this is like a natural. I want to use him again, 0:05:35.839 --> 0:05:37.640 work with him because I know my dad loved you. 0:05:38.240 --> 0:05:40.359 I loved your dad. Your dad sent me the sweetest 0:05:40.400 --> 0:05:42.719 note when I got on nine o two and oh, 0:05:43.279 --> 0:05:45.320 and he said, welcome back to the family, and I 0:05:45.440 --> 0:05:48.200 thought that was so sweet. He was so good to me. 0:05:49.760 --> 0:05:51.599 And in nine o two and oh, especially like we 0:05:51.880 --> 0:05:54.080 you're very very funny. And I know this from real 0:05:54.120 --> 0:05:56.599 life from not only working with you, but being friends 0:05:56.600 --> 0:05:59.120 with you back in the day, that you're very funny. 0:05:59.160 --> 0:06:01.960 You have great timing and yeah we didn't get to 0:06:01.960 --> 0:06:04.520 see a law of that with Howard, but yeah, Crystal 0:06:04.600 --> 0:06:09.120 math and comedy just yeah, it doesn't go together. You 0:06:09.240 --> 0:06:12.719 ended up doing I think six episodes, right, yeah, I 0:06:12.720 --> 0:06:14.920 think it was six. I mean that's a lot for 0:06:15.000 --> 0:06:20.159 a guest star. So yeah, do you remember like your 0:06:20.200 --> 0:06:22.360 first time on the set or like getting the job, 0:06:22.480 --> 0:06:24.200 like how did you were you a fan of the 0:06:24.200 --> 0:06:27.360 show before or oh, of course I mean I was. 0:06:27.480 --> 0:06:30.720 I was. Well, I knew you guys because we did 0:06:30.720 --> 0:06:33.320 publicity together when I was on The Heights and we 0:06:33.360 --> 0:06:35.880 would do these junkets and so all of us got 0:06:35.920 --> 0:06:38.800 to be friends. And Jenny, you and I had the 0:06:38.800 --> 0:06:42.200 same birthday, and so hey, it's coming up. I know, 0:06:42.800 --> 0:06:47.039 are you guys? Oh my god? And Tori you were 0:06:47.040 --> 0:06:49.520 always so sweet and generous, and you know, you let 0:06:49.520 --> 0:06:51.280 me sort of hang in your room during the time. 0:06:51.360 --> 0:06:53.279 I loved hanging out with you. You were the best. 0:06:53.320 --> 0:06:54.680 I loved hanging out with you two. You're like, my 0:06:54.720 --> 0:06:56.560 TV's on, just hang out my room, Everything's good, And 0:06:56.560 --> 0:07:00.680 I was like, oh, thanks, um. But yeah, I remember 0:07:00.760 --> 0:07:03.719 getting the getting with and then showing up on my 0:07:03.760 --> 0:07:09.200 first day and just being terrified because you guys were 0:07:09.240 --> 0:07:12.040 the biggest show on television and like the whole world 0:07:12.120 --> 0:07:14.840 watched it, and that was probably the biggest exposure I 0:07:14.840 --> 0:07:16.680 had at that point. The Heights hat up following, but 0:07:17.600 --> 0:07:20.680 the song was bigger than the show at that time, 0:07:20.760 --> 0:07:24.120 so I knew that this was going to be big. 0:07:24.200 --> 0:07:27.400 So I just remember calling myself down before I went 0:07:27.400 --> 0:07:29.080 out and did my first scene with the two of 0:07:29.080 --> 0:07:31.320 you guys, and then it was just super fun. We're 0:07:31.320 --> 0:07:33.200 all just friends and family, and then it went like that. 0:07:33.320 --> 0:07:36.280 I think we did like two takes each of coverage 0:07:36.280 --> 0:07:37.880 and master and we were done. Then I went home. 0:07:37.920 --> 0:07:39.280 I was like, this is going to be a blast. 0:07:40.200 --> 0:07:42.160 Can I ask you one more question about the Heights? 0:07:42.200 --> 0:07:45.000 I'm so sorry, just because my dad's no longer here, 0:07:45.040 --> 0:07:47.200 so I can't ask him a question. You know, the 0:07:47.280 --> 0:07:51.320 older version of me that's super interested in producing. Why 0:07:51.320 --> 0:07:53.840 do you think the Heights didn't work? Because I thought 0:07:53.880 --> 0:08:00.120 it was amazing my younger self, well, like, why not 0:08:00.240 --> 0:08:04.880 to know why Melore's place? Why not the Heights? Oh clue? 0:08:04.640 --> 0:08:11.560 I think that. Well. I remember that your father had 0:08:11.600 --> 0:08:14.000 a definite vision of what he wanted the show to be, 0:08:15.240 --> 0:08:20.200 which obviously your father knows what works, and I think 0:08:20.240 --> 0:08:23.520 that some of the people that were writing it and 0:08:23.960 --> 0:08:26.800 are creating it they had a different opinion. So there 0:08:26.840 --> 0:08:28.520 was a lot of We only had thirteen episodes, so 0:08:28.560 --> 0:08:31.200 there was just push both all through those thirteen weeks, 0:08:32.120 --> 0:08:35.120 where there were some episodes that really worked well and 0:08:35.200 --> 0:08:37.160 we would watch them and I mean, well, that was 0:08:37.160 --> 0:08:38.760 a great episode, and there was an episode that didn't 0:08:38.800 --> 0:08:41.480 really work well. So the other you know, I mean jointed. Okay, 0:08:41.600 --> 0:08:44.040 so it's very disjointed, whereas you guys, you guys were 0:08:44.080 --> 0:08:46.880 just perfect from the beginning all the way to the end. 0:08:46.920 --> 0:08:49.160 It was everybody was on the same team. And I 0:08:49.160 --> 0:08:52.640 think that we suffered from that a lot. My memory 0:08:52.679 --> 0:08:54.480 now that you're saying that, my memory is coming back, 0:08:54.520 --> 0:08:57.360 and I'm remembering being in my dad's library and watching 0:08:57.480 --> 0:09:01.520 dailies and him having arguments over the creative with Fox 0:09:01.600 --> 0:09:04.800 actually as well. So yeah, I heard a lot of them. Yeah, Okay, 0:09:05.200 --> 0:09:09.800 that's a bummer, Like can't we all be friends? Yeah, 0:09:09.880 --> 0:09:15.040 creative differences internally, it's hard, Jen, we don't know anything 0:09:15.080 --> 0:09:18.640 about that right now, exactly. I have a great story 0:09:18.640 --> 0:09:20.040 about your dad tour. I don't know if I ever 0:09:20.040 --> 0:09:21.960 told you, but when I was auditioning for The Heights 0:09:21.960 --> 0:09:26.160 and I had I did about six callbacks, and your 0:09:26.240 --> 0:09:28.920 dad wanted me, and I didn't know that yet. It 0:09:28.960 --> 0:09:30.880 was down to me and this other kid named Matt. 0:09:30.880 --> 0:09:34.280 He was at every single audition. Who there's just me 0:09:34.320 --> 0:09:40.200 and Matt. Matt who Matt Matt Now, yeah exactly, and 0:09:40.280 --> 0:09:42.240 he was really good, so it narrowed it down to 0:09:42.280 --> 0:09:44.880 just him and me at Network, and I walked in 0:09:44.920 --> 0:09:47.560 and go, oh, hey, man, how's it going. Yeah, so 0:09:48.400 --> 0:09:50.280 it was like American Idol, like who are you gonna pick? 0:09:50.800 --> 0:09:52.720 And I went in and your dad had like a 0:09:52.760 --> 0:09:55.199 cast on. He had either a broken arm or broken 0:09:55.200 --> 0:09:58.080 wrist or something back then, so it was everybody at network. 0:09:58.360 --> 0:10:03.960 I was terrified, and your dad signaled me over and 0:10:04.200 --> 0:10:07.840 leaned in and he goes, listen, when you do your scenes, 0:10:08.160 --> 0:10:11.280 speak really loud because these guys are all old, not 0:10:11.360 --> 0:10:14.439 like me and you, and he went and that just 0:10:14.559 --> 0:10:17.720 completely melted all the ice. And then I realized that 0:10:17.760 --> 0:10:19.280 he wanted me and he smiled and I did it 0:10:19.320 --> 0:10:21.240 and I got it. So I guess that was the 0:10:21.240 --> 0:10:25.240 sweetest thing I never I don't know, Oh my gosh, 0:10:25.280 --> 0:10:30.640 I love that He's so sweet. Where's Matt now? Yeah exactly, 0:10:30.880 --> 0:10:47.199 Darry Matt. So once you've finished nine or two and 0:10:47.320 --> 0:10:50.679 oh what happened for you next? Oh? Jen has one 0:10:50.760 --> 0:10:54.760 question about back to nine h two and oh the scene, 0:10:55.000 --> 0:10:58.760 the scene, the close talk scene. It really bothered her. 0:10:58.800 --> 0:11:01.800 So she's gonna ask you about it last week. Last 0:11:01.840 --> 0:11:04.000 week it was you and David and you were like 0:11:04.559 --> 0:11:08.199 toe to toe, literally nose to nose, talking this close 0:11:08.200 --> 0:11:11.040 to each other. I think a screenshot of it because 0:11:11.040 --> 0:11:13.680 I was so uncomfortable watching it and you were talking 0:11:13.679 --> 0:11:16.160 about like, you know, him getting more drugs from you 0:11:16.240 --> 0:11:19.200 or something, and I was like, why are they close 0:11:19.280 --> 0:11:21.680 talking like that? Why are they talk standing so close 0:11:21.720 --> 0:11:24.600 to each other? Do you remember that you have shot? 0:11:25.360 --> 0:11:29.559 Don't take it right now? Home? Well, don't you have it? No? 0:11:29.640 --> 0:11:31.960 But I just took a picture. Oh god, whereth it? 0:11:33.480 --> 0:11:38.320 That's funny. It was like this scene, like right, and 0:11:38.400 --> 0:11:41.480 he gets even closer than that. Yeah, he was. He 0:11:41.559 --> 0:11:44.120 was in your space. But all we were like, oh 0:11:44.160 --> 0:11:46.280 my gosh, like what happens? Do You're like, oh, I 0:11:46.280 --> 0:11:49.319 can smell your breath or like, god, you're that's uncomfortable. 0:11:51.880 --> 0:11:54.600 I was waiting if you guys start making out totally right. Yeah. 0:11:54.640 --> 0:11:56.160 I think they were trying a different angle with the 0:11:56.200 --> 0:11:59.800 crystal mass um. Yeah, I don't. There was a couple 0:11:59.800 --> 0:12:01.719 of times when we were doing that where we were like, 0:12:01.840 --> 0:12:04.280 why are we this close? Why are we talking this? 0:12:04.400 --> 0:12:08.520 Why are we why? Because we wanted to shot. Yeah, 0:12:08.559 --> 0:12:12.160 probably just wanted to get a shot. It was a couple. Yeah, 0:12:12.200 --> 0:12:15.120 I don't know, so good. It was a good time nineties. 0:12:15.120 --> 0:12:16.800 It was good, very a lot of Okay, So go 0:12:16.840 --> 0:12:19.439 back to my question, which was what happened next for you? Like, 0:12:19.480 --> 0:12:23.360 once you completed your run on the show. I after 0:12:23.520 --> 0:12:26.480 nine o twenty, I got a recurring gig on Party 0:12:26.480 --> 0:12:31.240 of five Nice yeah, which was which was pretty doing 0:12:31.280 --> 0:12:33.880 pretty well then, And it was. It was similar. It 0:12:33.920 --> 0:12:36.800 was like a character that started out just being friends 0:12:36.840 --> 0:12:40.640 with Nev Campbell's character, and then out of nowhere, they said, well, 0:12:40.760 --> 0:12:45.600 Nev's storyline, her best friend is gonna somehow develop HIV. 0:12:46.640 --> 0:12:50.000 We're not gonna explain why, but we've decided that you're 0:12:50.000 --> 0:12:53.640 the actor to portray that. And I went, thank you. 0:12:54.040 --> 0:12:56.520 That's pretty awesome because I was only there for six episodes, 0:12:57.880 --> 0:13:01.520 so um, I did that. And then after a party 0:13:01.559 --> 0:13:04.520 of fun, wait, which cast did you like better? Ours? 0:13:04.520 --> 0:13:07.600 Are theirs? Yours? Okay, Okay, you don't have to say 0:13:07.640 --> 0:13:10.000 that much much. We were friends with all of them too. 0:13:10.040 --> 0:13:12.080 They were great, but now they were awesome. They were 0:13:12.160 --> 0:13:14.160 everybody there was really you know. It was it was 0:13:14.200 --> 0:13:16.000 like this new show that had a lot of energy 0:13:16.040 --> 0:13:18.559 and everybody was working really hard. But you guys were 0:13:18.559 --> 0:13:21.000 like family. I mean we just all hung in Jenny's 0:13:21.080 --> 0:13:22.840 room was you know, she had music on all the time. 0:13:22.880 --> 0:13:26.080 She's like, hey, my room, I got records and you know, tapestries, 0:13:26.080 --> 0:13:27.920 and I'm like cool because I had a guest room 0:13:27.920 --> 0:13:31.360 with the phone. Wait were you were you there during 0:13:31.400 --> 0:13:35.480 the black dressing room era? Yeah, my pain in my 0:13:35.559 --> 0:13:37.960 dress room? Yeah you can. I don't remember that even 0:13:38.320 --> 0:13:40.360 it was so cute. It had like things on the 0:13:40.440 --> 0:13:44.440 ceiling like yeah, fabric. H I had a dressing room 0:13:44.480 --> 0:13:46.000 that was like the drunk tank. It was like a 0:13:46.080 --> 0:13:48.880 phone the wall that was it. And Jenny always went 0:13:48.920 --> 0:13:50.880 just hanging my room. I got music playing all the time, 0:13:51.040 --> 0:13:53.600 tapestries and Tori's like I got the TV on. Yeah, 0:13:53.640 --> 0:13:56.320 you had a wall to stare up when she that's 0:13:56.320 --> 0:13:59.360 when she was dating and married to musicians. That was 0:13:59.400 --> 0:14:02.920 that face. Yeah yeah I remember. Yeah, you guys were awesome. 0:14:02.960 --> 0:14:05.400 It was It really felt like, um like, yeah, like 0:14:05.400 --> 0:14:06.920 we were a family because we've known each other for 0:14:07.000 --> 0:14:12.840 a while. Yea, let's go back. Okay sorry, ye no 0:14:13.040 --> 0:14:15.959 like to those days, and I know I want to 0:14:16.000 --> 0:14:19.920 go back, but now wouldn't that be great? Like us now? 0:14:20.160 --> 0:14:22.600 So like it's not like everyone like I feel like 0:14:22.840 --> 0:14:26.520 nineties everyone, that's that one decade that everyone still like 0:14:27.480 --> 0:14:30.280 holds onto and keeps coming back to. So maybe we 0:14:30.280 --> 0:14:33.920 should all just go back to the ninetiest present day 0:14:34.360 --> 0:14:40.120 into it you reboot our actual lives. Yeah? Yeah, wow, Jen, 0:14:40.800 --> 0:14:44.520 that was deep. It's on it, I give I think 0:14:44.560 --> 0:14:48.840 Jenny should get creative control. Yeah, to share that with 0:14:49.120 --> 0:14:53.800 my partner there. Okay, so, uh, you just played a 0:14:53.800 --> 0:14:57.200 show m last night. It was the last night last 0:14:57.280 --> 0:15:01.960 night at the Whiskey at the Whiskey. Wow, it's okay, 0:15:02.000 --> 0:15:05.840 So tell us what's going on with music for you? Okay? Well, 0:15:06.000 --> 0:15:08.640 I live in Las Vegas. I've been there about Wait, 0:15:08.760 --> 0:15:11.320 I missed that memo. Sorry, Oh did I got I 0:15:11.520 --> 0:15:13.800 never told you that? No, No, that's why I was 0:15:13.800 --> 0:15:17.360 at the James Addiction show and there. Yeah, I moved. 0:15:17.640 --> 0:15:20.240 I actually moved to Vancouver for five years where we 0:15:20.240 --> 0:15:25.720 shot The Heights and I worked as an actor and 0:15:25.720 --> 0:15:27.440 I was also working as a musician, which was my 0:15:27.520 --> 0:15:30.680 first real passion. And I had to be on set 0:15:30.720 --> 0:15:32.320 at five thirty in the morning, and I was playing 0:15:32.320 --> 0:15:34.840 in clubs until two thirty in the morning, and I 0:15:34.880 --> 0:15:39.080 was like, Bob's got to give because Survivors. So after 0:15:39.120 --> 0:15:41.200 about five or six shows up in Canada, I just 0:15:41.280 --> 0:15:43.920 thought I got to choose something. So I chose music 0:15:44.000 --> 0:15:48.240 and and I moved back down here, and then I 0:15:48.280 --> 0:15:51.640 got a gig in Las Vegas doing two or three shows. 0:15:52.280 --> 0:15:53.760 A friend of mine hooked me up and then that 0:15:53.840 --> 0:15:56.960 just snowballed. And then from there I started playing with 0:15:57.000 --> 0:15:59.240 different artists. I played with a bunch of guys in Kiss, 0:16:00.000 --> 0:16:03.960 recorded them, and then currently I'm playing with Corey Taylor 0:16:04.080 --> 0:16:09.280 from Stone Sour and Slipnot So Cool. Yeah, he has 0:16:09.320 --> 0:16:12.880 a solo band that toured a couple of years ago, 0:16:13.040 --> 0:16:15.160 right before COVID and we made a record and we 0:16:15.200 --> 0:16:17.280 just finished our second record, which is probably coming out 0:16:17.280 --> 0:16:20.680 in September. And we go on the road um April 0:16:20.760 --> 0:16:23.400 thirtieth to May eleventh, and then we go on the 0:16:23.480 --> 0:16:27.520 road for two months August October. All are on the country, 0:16:28.200 --> 0:16:32.480 like both coasts everywhere. Yeah, we got back from we 0:16:32.480 --> 0:16:34.160 were in England for two weeks, so we just did 0:16:34.200 --> 0:16:36.840 a tour of England. Do you work for you when 0:16:36.880 --> 0:16:38.840 you when you're touring? Like, how do you get from 0:16:38.880 --> 0:16:42.240 place to place. You guys have buses or yeah, fly, 0:16:43.320 --> 0:16:46.440 We flied to like one city and then we get 0:16:46.480 --> 0:16:48.440 on a bus and then we just yeah, we busted 0:16:48.520 --> 0:16:54.200 all over. That's fine. Do you need to middle age 0:16:54.280 --> 0:17:02.280 but very hot groupies. Actually, yeah, I'm asking for a friend. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yes. 0:17:02.440 --> 0:17:06.000 Actually there's two bunks available for you on this next round. So, oh, 0:17:06.040 --> 0:17:09.040 bunk bunks? Wait, what does that mean? What does bunk 0:17:09.119 --> 0:17:11.600 mean the tour bus? You sleep in bunks? Oh, I 0:17:11.600 --> 0:17:13.960 don't sleep in a bunk. No, she won't. That won't 0:17:14.000 --> 0:17:20.480 work for her. She's like, let me here. Oh my gosh, 0:17:20.520 --> 0:17:24.440 your life sounds so fun. Oh thanks, Jenny. You guys 0:17:24.440 --> 0:17:26.520 life sounds amazing. I mean this is like you both 0:17:26.520 --> 0:17:30.840 look exactly the same and wish we have kids. We're 0:17:31.000 --> 0:17:35.280 driving our kids around. It's not that fun, Zach, really now, 0:17:35.480 --> 0:17:38.440 well you you hide it well, we'd play it off. 0:17:38.760 --> 0:17:41.080 We'd probably rather be on your tour bus with you. 0:17:41.240 --> 0:17:44.120 We shut these computers and we just go, oh God, 0:17:44.240 --> 0:17:47.760 what's happening, and then we're like, oh and we're back Hi, 0:17:48.880 --> 0:17:56.480 we're back on off. Yeah. Yeah. You do so much 0:17:56.680 --> 0:18:00.000 voice work as well. I do. I was on nickelode 0:18:00.320 --> 0:18:04.320 for a couple of years doing a lot of animated 0:18:04.560 --> 0:18:06.320 voice work and I did a couple of commercials and 0:18:07.080 --> 0:18:09.560 she's the way to go. It really is, dude, It's 0:18:09.600 --> 0:18:13.159 the greatest job of man, Jenn. We got to do 0:18:13.200 --> 0:18:16.040 more of that. You guys got to really do that. 0:18:16.119 --> 0:18:18.000 I mean that you show up in like your slats 0:18:18.040 --> 0:18:19.760 and you don't need to go to makeup and you 0:18:19.840 --> 0:18:24.400 just zack. I'm I'm still wearing my pajamas. See now 0:18:24.440 --> 0:18:27.400 you could be working right now. Yeah. Yeah, perfect job 0:18:27.440 --> 0:18:30.240 for me, perfect job. Yeah, that was very what's her name, 0:18:31.000 --> 0:18:35.800 I'm fifty you guys. When I put my leg up there, 0:18:35.840 --> 0:18:39.560 I heard totally and me as her friend, I was like, 0:18:39.920 --> 0:18:44.560 I love that she can still do that. Wait, who 0:18:44.680 --> 0:18:48.119 was it not Cherio, Terry, Molly Shannon, what was her character? Fifty? 0:18:49.080 --> 0:18:52.720 Well take us up on that offer. We're available. So 0:18:52.840 --> 0:18:56.800 Jen and I did a live tour and that was 0:18:56.840 --> 0:18:59.240 our rock star moment. We didn't have a bus, so 0:18:59.280 --> 0:19:02.240 we had a veil, but we wanted one in our 0:19:02.560 --> 0:19:06.160 in our minds. It was like this rapped tour bus, 0:19:06.400 --> 0:19:09.720 yeah right right, total and like we were like going backstage, 0:19:09.760 --> 0:19:11.199 like they had to get us in and out and 0:19:11.400 --> 0:19:13.560 in like we played like at one point, like three 0:19:13.560 --> 0:19:16.400 thousand people were like, oh played, look at me. We 0:19:16.400 --> 0:19:19.440 were on stage and doing a rewatch and telling stories 0:19:19.480 --> 0:19:23.000 and nine O two and oh fans um, but I've 0:19:23.000 --> 0:19:25.600 been playing games. But it was our like we never 0:19:25.680 --> 0:19:28.040 had that experience, so it was our like rock star 0:19:28.200 --> 0:19:33.080 moment totally. You guys are rock stars, always were, always 0:19:33.080 --> 0:19:36.679 will be right. Don't you forget it. Zachary damn straight. 0:19:37.160 --> 0:19:53.680 He schooled me years ago. Oh so good to catch 0:19:53.800 --> 0:19:55.639 up with you. You look great and it sounds like 0:19:55.640 --> 0:19:57.840 you're just living your best life with your music your 0:19:57.840 --> 0:20:01.480 first love, which is so cool that you can continue 0:20:01.520 --> 0:20:04.840 to do that, and you literally look exactly the same. 0:20:04.960 --> 0:20:09.600 This is wild. Yeah, I'm just I honestly think you 0:20:09.640 --> 0:20:11.760 guys look exactly the same too. I'm not even I'm 0:20:11.800 --> 0:20:13.720 not even. I know you have kids and your stress 0:20:13.800 --> 0:20:17.000 and the whole thing. Like this could be nineteen ninety 0:20:17.000 --> 0:20:18.720 before and we could be on the set again and 0:20:18.880 --> 0:20:22.080 we're like, all twenty eight. Oh my gosh, wait, tell 0:20:22.160 --> 0:20:25.119 us some fun story that no one would know, a 0:20:25.200 --> 0:20:28.879 fun story about from back then. Yeah, Like I'm set that, 0:20:29.080 --> 0:20:30.640 Like you're telling us stuff. Whe were like, oh my god, 0:20:30.680 --> 0:20:33.160 I don't remember that. Oh my god, tell us, tell us, okay, 0:20:33.160 --> 0:20:37.160 I have I have a horrifying story. Oh good, good, horrifying. Yeah, 0:20:37.320 --> 0:20:41.280 this is like every actors. Oh no, um yeah it 0:20:41.320 --> 0:20:45.359 happened to me. I'm so thrilled. Um. Wait have you 0:20:45.400 --> 0:20:52.000 told this to the other podcast already? Yeah? Okay, well 0:20:52.000 --> 0:20:55.439 but I'll do it better. And so it was. It 0:20:55.480 --> 0:20:57.520 was the first shot of the day, and it was 0:20:57.520 --> 0:21:00.960 me and Brian, and Brian was at the the console 0:21:01.200 --> 0:21:04.359 and it was all these different focus polls and I 0:21:04.400 --> 0:21:07.400 had to come in on a on a line, knock 0:21:07.440 --> 0:21:09.160 on the door, open it, hit my mark and say 0:21:09.200 --> 0:21:11.760 my line, and it was like six and I'm tired, 0:21:11.840 --> 0:21:14.920 and you know, and I'm just trying to coffee up. Well, 0:21:15.160 --> 0:21:17.439 they couldn't get this shot right. They wanted to get 0:21:17.480 --> 0:21:19.919 it all in one shot. So I just kept walking in, 0:21:20.080 --> 0:21:23.560 hitting my mark, not saying a word. Probably ten times 0:21:24.880 --> 0:21:30.480 I forgot my line. You know, you just get into 0:21:30.480 --> 0:21:34.080 that thing where you just eight doesn't work again. Yeah, 0:21:34.119 --> 0:21:36.080 So I just was used to and then now I'm 0:21:36.080 --> 0:21:38.480 thinking about lunch and something else, you know. So I 0:21:38.520 --> 0:21:40.240 walked in and I wouldn't say anything for a bottle. 0:21:40.359 --> 0:21:42.600 Ten times and then on the eleventh time I walked in, 0:21:42.920 --> 0:21:46.240 I stood on my tape dead silence, and then I went, 0:21:47.119 --> 0:21:49.480 I'm sorry, I forgot my line and the entire crew 0:21:49.480 --> 0:21:54.199 went nah and started screaming at me, and I was 0:21:54.240 --> 0:21:57.080 like and then I and then Brian made fun of me, 0:21:57.200 --> 0:22:01.399 of course, which around a partition, and I was just like, 0:22:01.440 --> 0:22:03.880 com blue Ocean, calm down, call, you'll get it. You'll 0:22:03.920 --> 0:22:06.960 get it. To get it. So the next take they did, 0:22:07.160 --> 0:22:09.199 when they finally got it, I walked in and I 0:22:09.200 --> 0:22:11.560 just robotically just delivered my line because I just didn't 0:22:11.640 --> 0:22:15.520 screw it up. Yeah, I said, that's it. I'm fired. 0:22:15.560 --> 0:22:18.399 They're gonna fire me because it was such a long shot. 0:22:18.520 --> 0:22:20.280 That was such a long time to get that right. 0:22:20.760 --> 0:22:22.679 And as I was leaving, there was another actor that 0:22:22.800 --> 0:22:26.159 was playing uh Gabrielle's boyfriend, and I told him my 0:22:26.200 --> 0:22:30.320 horror story market that yeah, playing Jesse really sweet. He 0:22:30.440 --> 0:22:32.520 came in when I leave and he said, dude, I 0:22:32.520 --> 0:22:34.760 got you beat. He goes. I did twenty eight takes 0:22:34.760 --> 0:22:36.720 and I had one line and I couldn't remember it, 0:22:37.600 --> 0:22:41.920