1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:11,240 Speaker 1: It's with Jenny Garth and Tory Spelling, everybody's favorite drug 2 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:18,479 Speaker 1: pusher from back in the day. I shouldn't call you that, 3 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 1: Zach Sorry, um Howard. He played Howard in six episodes 4 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 1: at California University's radio station k XCU. We have Zachary 5 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:34,280 Speaker 1: Throne with us today. Our good friend there is Hey, 6 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:41,520 Speaker 1: Zachary Throne. Hi, third, Hi, see you. It's been a minute, 7 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 1: had Sorry, I have an eye patch. I have a 8 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 1: little scratch on my eyeball, so just slept in my 9 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 1: contacts my daily one's stupid move. But let's talk about you. 10 00:00:53,960 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 1: I'm gee good. How has it been thirty? No? Twenty? Now? 11 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 1: You were right the first time thirty over thirty years? 12 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 1: Jee god, I think the last time I saw you, 13 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 1: Jenny was I want to say, nineteen ninety four. Yeah, 14 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 1: and me, Tory. I saw you at Jans Jane's addiction 15 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 1: show in Las Vegas. Oh my god, I did see 16 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 1: you there, Okay, ye, oh my gosh. Yes, I always 17 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 1: counted by babies. I had four babies then, not five? Yes, 18 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:32,399 Speaker 1: right was see that was a crazy show that was 19 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 1: so fun and they were hanging people by the backs 20 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:38,320 Speaker 1: of hugs. Yeah. It was wild. Yeah, it was really nuts. 21 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. Um. Okay, we start about Howard. We've 22 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 1: been watching this We're in season four on the podcast. 23 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 1: We've been watching it back since the very beginning. And 24 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 1: your you play Howard, who was the manager or the 25 00:01:56,360 --> 00:02:00,160 Speaker 1: head guy right at the DJ for California Universe. You 26 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 1: worked David and Donna worked David. Yeah, but Howard turned 27 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 1: into a super shady kind of guy. Yeah, that was 28 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 1: a big shift there. Did you know that was going 29 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 1: to happen? Did you know your character was drug pusher, 30 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 1: drug dealer? Not a clue. I remember when I got 31 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 1: the job and my first scene was with tor And 32 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:27,800 Speaker 1: and Brian and they had these two dueling monologues and 33 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 1: all I had to do was just look back and 34 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 1: forth and be abused and then tell them I like 35 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 1: you guys, you got the job. And I thought that's 36 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 1: really where the character was just going to sort of be. 37 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 1: I was going to be their boss and that was it. 38 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:41,640 Speaker 1: And then Brian came to me one day and he 39 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:43,920 Speaker 1: said I just got through talking with the producers and 40 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 1: I said, oh, how'd it go? And he goes, my 41 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 1: storyline is going to be I get addicted to Crystal 42 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 1: Mass and I went, that's that's juicy. Yeah, he guys, yes, 43 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 1: who gets me addicted? I went, who? He goes you 44 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:03,080 Speaker 1: so you found it? Then you're like, well, I guess 45 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 1: I'm not going to be a series regular. Yeah, at 46 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:10,520 Speaker 1: a certain point, I'm going to be gone. But so 47 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:13,079 Speaker 1: my tenures limited. But yeah, he said, it's just we're 48 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 1: gonna start, you know, playing that angle, and you're going 49 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 1: to be my dealer and my boss. So I'm okay, 50 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 1: how did you You were okay with it? I mean, 51 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 1: oh yeah, I mean I it was I mean, first 52 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 1: probably cool, like you probably like were like that sounds cool, 53 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 1: like a meteor role, right, definitely, Because there was like 54 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 1: the first three or so episodes I did, I just 55 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 1: sort of I was just their boss. I just sat 56 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 1: I sat Tory up with her microphone, and then I 57 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 1: put her on the late shift and then they got 58 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 1: into a fight because she stole So I was just 59 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 1: sort of like this guy this, and then all of 60 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 1: a sudden I had this agenda, you know where it's 61 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 1: like I somehow have Crystal mess on me and Brian 62 00:03:56,880 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 1: new somehow. Yeah, I just don't worry Avid. I have 63 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 1: you taken care of crystal mess. So I just thought, well, 64 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 1: this will be fun to play, and then me and 65 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 1: Brian will get to have fun every day just doing 66 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 1: this whole sort of dark turn and uh yeah it was. 67 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 1: It just came out of sin air. Wow. Do you 68 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 1: ever think, like in your head, like your head games, 69 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:26,559 Speaker 1: what was like Howard's backstory? Yeah, at the time, I did. Um. 70 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:28,839 Speaker 1: I thought, well, at the beginning, I thought, Okay, I 71 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:30,839 Speaker 1: got this job and I run. I run the radio 72 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:34,839 Speaker 1: station at the college. I'm into music and this station 73 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 1: means a lot to me, so I only want to 74 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:38,479 Speaker 1: hire the best people. And you guys came on, you 75 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 1: had that instant reports. I said, you guys got the job. 76 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 1: But then when I became a crystal mess dealer, I went, okay, 77 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 1: where do I go from here? Like I don't have 78 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 1: a lot of experience dealing crystals. I think it's safe, 79 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:54,919 Speaker 1: so um. But again, yeah, I just thought, well, you know, 80 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 1: he understands this lifestyle of you have to do these 81 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 1: graveyard shifts and then stay up, so he's just like 82 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 1: a season vet. So of course he'll have some kind 83 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 1: of potion that'll help you. Well that's where I ran with. 84 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:11,040 Speaker 1: I don't know now Originally you did a show called 85 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:13,719 Speaker 1: The Heights for my Dad, which was also on Fox, 86 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:18,359 Speaker 1: which Jamie Walters was also your co star in it, 87 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 1: which he comes next season on two nine two and yeah, 88 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 1: so it was like family. Yeah, and obviously The Heights 89 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 1: you were all musicians and real musicians, and that made sense. 90 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:33,719 Speaker 1: So I'm sure that's why my dad was like, Okay, 91 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:35,720 Speaker 1: this is like a natural. I want to use him again, 92 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 1: work with him because I know my dad loved you. 93 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:40,359 Speaker 1: I loved your dad. Your dad sent me the sweetest 94 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:42,719 Speaker 1: note when I got on nine o two and oh, 95 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 1: and he said, welcome back to the family, and I 96 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 1: thought that was so sweet. He was so good to me. 97 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:51,599 Speaker 1: And in nine o two and oh, especially like we 98 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 1: you're very very funny. And I know this from real 99 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:56,599 Speaker 1: life from not only working with you, but being friends 100 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 1: with you back in the day, that you're very funny. 101 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 1: You have great timing and yeah we didn't get to 102 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 1: see a law of that with Howard, but yeah, Crystal 103 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 1: math and comedy just yeah, it doesn't go together. You 104 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:12,719 Speaker 1: ended up doing I think six episodes, right, yeah, I 105 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:14,920 Speaker 1: think it was six. I mean that's a lot for 106 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:20,159 Speaker 1: a guest star. So yeah, do you remember like your 107 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 1: first time on the set or like getting the job, 108 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 1: like how did you were you a fan of the 109 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:27,360 Speaker 1: show before or oh, of course I mean I was. 110 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:30,720 Speaker 1: I was. Well, I knew you guys because we did 111 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 1: publicity together when I was on The Heights and we 112 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 1: would do these junkets and so all of us got 113 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 1: to be friends. And Jenny, you and I had the 114 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 1: same birthday, and so hey, it's coming up. I know, 115 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:47,039 Speaker 1: are you guys? Oh my god? And Tori you were 116 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 1: always so sweet and generous, and you know, you let 117 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:51,280 Speaker 1: me sort of hang in your room during the time. 118 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:53,279 Speaker 1: I loved hanging out with you. You were the best. 119 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 1: I loved hanging out with you two. You're like, my 120 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 1: TV's on, just hang out my room, Everything's good, And 121 00:06:56,560 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, thanks, um. But yeah, I remember 122 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:03,719 Speaker 1: getting the getting with and then showing up on my 123 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 1: first day and just being terrified because you guys were 124 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 1: the biggest show on television and like the whole world 125 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 1: watched it, and that was probably the biggest exposure I 126 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 1: had at that point. The Heights hat up following, but 127 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 1: the song was bigger than the show at that time, 128 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 1: so I knew that this was going to be big. 129 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 1: So I just remember calling myself down before I went 130 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 1: out and did my first scene with the two of 131 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 1: you guys, and then it was just super fun. We're 132 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 1: all just friends and family, and then it went like that. 133 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 1: I think we did like two takes each of coverage 134 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 1: and master and we were done. Then I went home. 135 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 1: I was like, this is going to be a blast. 136 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 1: Can I ask you one more question about the Heights? 137 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 1: I'm so sorry, just because my dad's no longer here, 138 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 1: so I can't ask him a question. You know, the 139 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 1: older version of me that's super interested in producing. Why 140 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 1: do you think the Heights didn't work? Because I thought 141 00:07:53,880 --> 00:08:00,120 Speaker 1: it was amazing my younger self, well, like, why not 142 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 1: to know why Melore's place? Why not the Heights? Oh clue? 143 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 1: I think that. Well. I remember that your father had 144 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 1: a definite vision of what he wanted the show to be, 145 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 1: which obviously your father knows what works, and I think 146 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 1: that some of the people that were writing it and 147 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 1: are creating it they had a different opinion. So there 148 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 1: was a lot of We only had thirteen episodes, so 149 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 1: there was just push both all through those thirteen weeks, 150 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 1: where there were some episodes that really worked well and 151 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 1: we would watch them and I mean, well, that was 152 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 1: a great episode, and there was an episode that didn't 153 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 1: really work well. So the other you know, I mean jointed. Okay, 154 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 1: so it's very disjointed, whereas you guys, you guys were 155 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 1: just perfect from the beginning all the way to the end. 156 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 1: It was everybody was on the same team. And I 157 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 1: think that we suffered from that a lot. My memory 158 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 1: now that you're saying that, my memory is coming back, 159 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 1: and I'm remembering being in my dad's library and watching 160 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 1: dailies and him having arguments over the creative with Fox 161 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 1: actually as well. So yeah, I heard a lot of them. Yeah, Okay, 162 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 1: that's a bummer, Like can't we all be friends? Yeah, 163 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 1: creative differences internally, it's hard, Jen, we don't know anything 164 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 1: about that right now, exactly. I have a great story 165 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 1: about your dad tour. I don't know if I ever 166 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:21,960 Speaker 1: told you, but when I was auditioning for The Heights 167 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 1: and I had I did about six callbacks, and your 168 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 1: dad wanted me, and I didn't know that yet. It 169 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 1: was down to me and this other kid named Matt. 170 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 1: He was at every single audition. Who there's just me 171 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:40,200 Speaker 1: and Matt. Matt who Matt Matt Now, yeah exactly, and 172 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 1: he was really good, so it narrowed it down to 173 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 1: just him and me at Network, and I walked in 174 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:47,560 Speaker 1: and go, oh, hey, man, how's it going. Yeah, so 175 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 1: it was like American Idol, like who are you gonna pick? 176 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 1: And I went in and your dad had like a 177 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:55,199 Speaker 1: cast on. He had either a broken arm or broken 178 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:58,080 Speaker 1: wrist or something back then, so it was everybody at network. 179 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 1: I was terrified, and your dad signaled me over and 180 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:07,840 Speaker 1: leaned in and he goes, listen, when you do your scenes, 181 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 1: speak really loud because these guys are all old, not 182 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:14,439 Speaker 1: like me and you, and he went and that just 183 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 1: completely melted all the ice. And then I realized that 184 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 1: he wanted me and he smiled and I did it 185 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 1: and I got it. So I guess that was the 186 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 1: sweetest thing I never I don't know, Oh my gosh, 187 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 1: I love that He's so sweet. Where's Matt now? Yeah exactly, 188 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:47,199 Speaker 1: Darry Matt. So once you've finished nine or two and 189 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:50,679 Speaker 1: oh what happened for you next? Oh? Jen has one 190 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 1: question about back to nine h two and oh the scene, 191 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 1: the scene, the close talk scene. It really bothered her. 192 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 1: So she's gonna ask you about it last week. Last 193 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:04,000 Speaker 1: week it was you and David and you were like 194 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:08,199 Speaker 1: toe to toe, literally nose to nose, talking this close 195 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 1: to each other. I think a screenshot of it because 196 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:13,680 Speaker 1: I was so uncomfortable watching it and you were talking 197 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 1: about like, you know, him getting more drugs from you 198 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:19,200 Speaker 1: or something, and I was like, why are they close 199 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:21,680 Speaker 1: talking like that? Why are they talk standing so close 200 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 1: to each other? Do you remember that you have shot? 201 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:29,559 Speaker 1: Don't take it right now? Home? Well, don't you have it? No? 202 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:31,960 Speaker 1: But I just took a picture. Oh god, whereth it? 203 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:38,320 Speaker 1: That's funny. It was like this scene, like right, and 204 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 1: he gets even closer than that. Yeah, he was. He 205 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 1: was in your space. But all we were like, oh 206 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 1: my gosh, like what happens? Do You're like, oh, I 207 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:49,319 Speaker 1: can smell your breath or like, god, you're that's uncomfortable. 208 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 1: I was waiting if you guys start making out totally right. Yeah. 209 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 1: I think they were trying a different angle with the 210 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 1: crystal mass um. Yeah, I don't. There was a couple 211 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:01,719 Speaker 1: of times when we were doing that where we were like, 212 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 1: why are we this close? Why are we talking this? 213 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 1: Why are we why? Because we wanted to shot. Yeah, 214 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 1: probably just wanted to get a shot. It was a couple. Yeah, 215 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 1: I don't know, so good. It was a good time nineties. 216 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 1: It was good, very a lot of Okay, So go 217 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:19,439 Speaker 1: back to my question, which was what happened next for you? Like, 218 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 1: once you completed your run on the show. I after 219 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 1: nine o twenty, I got a recurring gig on Party 220 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 1: of five Nice yeah, which was which was pretty doing 221 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 1: pretty well then, And it was. It was similar. It 222 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 1: was like a character that started out just being friends 223 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 1: with Nev Campbell's character, and then out of nowhere, they said, well, 224 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 1: Nev's storyline, her best friend is gonna somehow develop HIV. 225 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 1: We're not gonna explain why, but we've decided that you're 226 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 1: the actor to portray that. And I went, thank you. 227 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 1: That's pretty awesome because I was only there for six episodes, 228 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 1: so um, I did that. And then after a party 229 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 1: of fun, wait, which cast did you like better? Ours? 230 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 1: Are theirs? Yours? Okay, Okay, you don't have to say 231 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 1: that much much. We were friends with all of them too. 232 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:12,080 Speaker 1: They were great, but now they were awesome. They were 233 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 1: everybody there was really you know. It was it was 234 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 1: like this new show that had a lot of energy 235 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:18,559 Speaker 1: and everybody was working really hard. But you guys were 236 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 1: like family. I mean we just all hung in Jenny's 237 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:22,840 Speaker 1: room was you know, she had music on all the time. 238 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:26,080 Speaker 1: She's like, hey, my room, I got records and you know, tapestries, 239 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 1: and I'm like cool because I had a guest room 240 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 1: with the phone. Wait were you were you there during 241 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 1: the black dressing room era? Yeah, my pain in my 242 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:37,960 Speaker 1: dress room? Yeah you can. I don't remember that even 243 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 1: it was so cute. It had like things on the 244 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:44,440 Speaker 1: ceiling like yeah, fabric. H I had a dressing room 245 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 1: that was like the drunk tank. It was like a 246 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 1: phone the wall that was it. And Jenny always went 247 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 1: just hanging my room. I got music playing all the time, 248 00:13:51,040 --> 00:13:53,600 Speaker 1: tapestries and Tori's like I got the TV on. Yeah, 249 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:56,320 Speaker 1: you had a wall to stare up when she that's 250 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 1: when she was dating and married to musicians. That was 251 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 1: that face. Yeah yeah I remember. Yeah, you guys were awesome. 252 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 1: It was It really felt like, um like, yeah, like 253 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 1: we were a family because we've known each other for 254 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:12,840 Speaker 1: a while. Yea, let's go back. Okay sorry, ye no 255 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:15,959 Speaker 1: like to those days, and I know I want to 256 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 1: go back, but now wouldn't that be great? Like us now? 257 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 1: So like it's not like everyone like I feel like 258 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 1: nineties everyone, that's that one decade that everyone still like 259 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 1: holds onto and keeps coming back to. So maybe we 260 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 1: should all just go back to the ninetiest present day 261 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 1: into it you reboot our actual lives. Yeah? Yeah, wow, Jen, 262 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 1: that was deep. It's on it, I give I think 263 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 1: Jenny should get creative control. Yeah, to share that with 264 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 1: my partner there. Okay, so, uh, you just played a 265 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 1: show m last night. It was the last night last 266 00:14:57,280 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 1: night at the Whiskey at the Whiskey. Wow, it's okay, 267 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 1: So tell us what's going on with music for you? Okay? Well, 268 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 1: I live in Las Vegas. I've been there about Wait, 269 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 1: I missed that memo. Sorry, Oh did I got I 270 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 1: never told you that? No, No, that's why I was 271 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 1: at the James Addiction show and there. Yeah, I moved. 272 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 1: I actually moved to Vancouver for five years where we 273 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 1: shot The Heights and I worked as an actor and 274 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 1: I was also working as a musician, which was my 275 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 1: first real passion. And I had to be on set 276 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 1: at five thirty in the morning, and I was playing 277 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 1: in clubs until two thirty in the morning, and I 278 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 1: was like, Bob's got to give because Survivors. So after 279 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 1: about five or six shows up in Canada, I just 280 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 1: thought I got to choose something. So I chose music 281 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 1: and and I moved back down here, and then I 282 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 1: got a gig in Las Vegas doing two or three shows. 283 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:53,760 Speaker 1: A friend of mine hooked me up and then that 284 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 1: just snowballed. And then from there I started playing with 285 00:15:57,000 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 1: different artists. I played with a bunch of guys in Kiss, 286 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 1: recorded them, and then currently I'm playing with Corey Taylor 287 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 1: from Stone Sour and Slipnot So Cool. Yeah, he has 288 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 1: a solo band that toured a couple of years ago, 289 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 1: right before COVID and we made a record and we 290 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 1: just finished our second record, which is probably coming out 291 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 1: in September. And we go on the road um April 292 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 1: thirtieth to May eleventh, and then we go on the 293 00:16:23,480 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 1: road for two months August October. All are on the country, 294 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 1: like both coasts everywhere. Yeah, we got back from we 295 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 1: were in England for two weeks, so we just did 296 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 1: a tour of England. Do you work for you when 297 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 1: you when you're touring? Like, how do you get from 298 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 1: place to place. You guys have buses or yeah, fly, 299 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 1: We flied to like one city and then we get 300 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 1: on a bus and then we just yeah, we busted 301 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 1: all over. That's fine. Do you need to middle age 302 00:16:54,280 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 1: but very hot groupies. Actually, yeah, I'm asking for a friend. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yes. 303 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 1: Actually there's two bunks available for you on this next round. So, oh, 304 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 1: bunk bunks? Wait, what does that mean? What does bunk 305 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 1: mean the tour bus? You sleep in bunks? Oh, I 306 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 1: don't sleep in a bunk. No, she won't. That won't 307 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:20,480 Speaker 1: work for her. She's like, let me here. Oh my gosh, 308 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:24,440 Speaker 1: your life sounds so fun. Oh thanks, Jenny. You guys 309 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 1: life sounds amazing. I mean this is like you both 310 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 1: look exactly the same and wish we have kids. We're 311 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 1: driving our kids around. It's not that fun, Zach, really now, 312 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:38,440 Speaker 1: well you you hide it well, we'd play it off. 313 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 1: We'd probably rather be on your tour bus with you. 314 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:44,120 Speaker 1: We shut these computers and we just go, oh God, 315 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 1: what's happening, and then we're like, oh and we're back Hi, 316 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:56,480 Speaker 1: we're back on off. Yeah. Yeah. You do so much 317 00:17:56,680 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 1: voice work as well. I do. I was on nickelode 318 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 1: for a couple of years doing a lot of animated 319 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 1: voice work and I did a couple of commercials and 320 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 1: she's the way to go. It really is, dude, It's 321 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:13,159 Speaker 1: the greatest job of man, Jenn. We got to do 322 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 1: more of that. You guys got to really do that. 323 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 1: I mean that you show up in like your slats 324 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 1: and you don't need to go to makeup and you 325 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:24,400 Speaker 1: just zack. I'm I'm still wearing my pajamas. See now 326 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:27,400 Speaker 1: you could be working right now. Yeah. Yeah, perfect job 327 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:30,240 Speaker 1: for me, perfect job. Yeah, that was very what's her name, 328 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 1: I'm fifty you guys. When I put my leg up there, 329 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 1: I heard totally and me as her friend, I was like, 330 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 1: I love that she can still do that. Wait, who 331 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:48,119 Speaker 1: was it not Cherio, Terry, Molly Shannon, what was her character? Fifty? 332 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:52,720 Speaker 1: Well take us up on that offer. We're available. So 333 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 1: Jen and I did a live tour and that was 334 00:18:56,840 --> 00:18:59,240 Speaker 1: our rock star moment. We didn't have a bus, so 335 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 1: we had a veil, but we wanted one in our 336 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:06,160 Speaker 1: in our minds. It was like this rapped tour bus, 337 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 1: yeah right right, total and like we were like going backstage, 338 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:11,199 Speaker 1: like they had to get us in and out and 339 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:13,560 Speaker 1: in like we played like at one point, like three 340 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:16,400 Speaker 1: thousand people were like, oh played, look at me. We 341 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:19,440 Speaker 1: were on stage and doing a rewatch and telling stories 342 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 1: and nine O two and oh fans um, but I've 343 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 1: been playing games. But it was our like we never 344 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 1: had that experience, so it was our like rock star 345 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 1: moment totally. You guys are rock stars, always were, always 346 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:36,679 Speaker 1: will be right. Don't you forget it. Zachary damn straight. 347 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:53,680 Speaker 1: He schooled me years ago. Oh so good to catch 348 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:55,639 Speaker 1: up with you. You look great and it sounds like 349 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 1: you're just living your best life with your music your 350 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 1: first love, which is so cool that you can continue 351 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 1: to do that, and you literally look exactly the same. 352 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 1: This is wild. Yeah, I'm just I honestly think you 353 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 1: guys look exactly the same too. I'm not even I'm 354 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:13,720 Speaker 1: not even. I know you have kids and your stress 355 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 1: and the whole thing. Like this could be nineteen ninety 356 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 1: before and we could be on the set again and 357 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 1: we're like, all twenty eight. Oh my gosh, wait, tell 358 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:25,119 Speaker 1: us some fun story that no one would know, a 359 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:28,879 Speaker 1: fun story about from back then. Yeah, Like I'm set that, 360 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:30,640 Speaker 1: Like you're telling us stuff. Whe were like, oh my god, 361 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:33,160 Speaker 1: I don't remember that. Oh my god, tell us, tell us, okay, 362 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:37,160 Speaker 1: I have I have a horrifying story. Oh good, good, horrifying. Yeah, 363 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 1: this is like every actors. Oh no, um yeah it 364 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:45,359 Speaker 1: happened to me. I'm so thrilled. Um. Wait have you 365 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 1: told this to the other podcast already? Yeah? Okay, well 366 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:55,439 Speaker 1: but I'll do it better. And so it was. It 367 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:57,520 Speaker 1: was the first shot of the day, and it was 368 00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 1: me and Brian, and Brian was at the the console 369 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:04,359 Speaker 1: and it was all these different focus polls and I 370 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:07,400 Speaker 1: had to come in on a on a line, knock 371 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:09,160 Speaker 1: on the door, open it, hit my mark and say 372 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 1: my line, and it was like six and I'm tired, 373 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:14,920 Speaker 1: and you know, and I'm just trying to coffee up. Well, 374 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:17,439 Speaker 1: they couldn't get this shot right. They wanted to get 375 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:19,919 Speaker 1: it all in one shot. So I just kept walking in, 376 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 1: hitting my mark, not saying a word. Probably ten times 377 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:30,480 Speaker 1: I forgot my line. You know, you just get into 378 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 1: that thing where you just eight doesn't work again. Yeah, 379 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 1: So I just was used to and then now I'm 380 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:38,480 Speaker 1: thinking about lunch and something else, you know. So I 381 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:40,240 Speaker 1: walked in and I wouldn't say anything for a bottle. 382 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 1: Ten times and then on the eleventh time I walked in, 383 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 1: I stood on my tape dead silence, and then I went, 384 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I forgot my line and the entire crew 385 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:54,199 Speaker 1: went nah and started screaming at me, and I was 386 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 1: like and then I and then Brian made fun of me, 387 00:21:57,200 --> 00:22:01,399 Speaker 1: of course, which around a partition, and I was just like, 388 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:03,880 Speaker 1: com blue Ocean, calm down, call, you'll get it. You'll 389 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:06,960 Speaker 1: get it. To get it. So the next take they did, 390 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:09,199 Speaker 1: when they finally got it, I walked in and I 391 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 1: just robotically just delivered my line because I just didn't 392 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 1: screw it up. Yeah, I said, that's it. I'm fired. 393 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:18,399 Speaker 1: They're gonna fire me because it was such a long shot. 394 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 1: That was such a long time to get that right. 395 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:22,679 Speaker 1: And as I was leaving, there was another actor that 396 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:26,159 Speaker 1: was playing uh Gabrielle's boyfriend, and I told him my 397 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 1: horror story market that yeah, playing Jesse really sweet. He 398 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 1: came in when I leave and he said, dude, I 399 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 1: got you beat. He goes. I did twenty eight takes 400 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:36,720 Speaker 1: and I had one line and I couldn't remember it, 401 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:41,920 Speaker 1: and Diane said, do you want me remember her? Yeah? 402 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 1: She goes, acidic tongue she goes, do you want me 403 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:51,840 Speaker 1: to tell you what your one line is? So funny? 404 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 1: Always with us. Yeah, she was super sarcastic but amazing. 405 00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 1: She was amazing and she totally but oh my gosh, 406 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:03,879 Speaker 1: don't worry. That was me and Jen every Friday night. Yeah, 407 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:06,200 Speaker 1: they I don't know. For some reason, they would always 408 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:08,480 Speaker 1: do beach apartment. We'd be like the last seaing of 409 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 1: the night. Everyone wanted to go for the weekend, and 410 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:13,439 Speaker 1: we would get the giggles because we were together, and 411 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:16,000 Speaker 1: the crew would just be like in the week and 412 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:17,879 Speaker 1: we just start looking each other and busting up, and 413 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:23,360 Speaker 1: they were just like, so, don't worry, come on, okay, wait, 414 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 1: tell us another story. When we're story we're worry about you, guys, Yeah, 415 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:34,720 Speaker 1: tell us a story about us? About it? Tell about me? Okay, yeah, yeah, 416 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:37,639 Speaker 1: um yeah, enough about you? What do you think of me? 417 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:43,359 Speaker 1: You guys are just the sweetest manna not that not that, 418 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 1: oh like like stupid stuff. All right. It's nice because 419 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:50,879 Speaker 1: you actually have a memory. If you put me like 420 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 1: this and asked me to tell a story, I would 421 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:56,119 Speaker 1: be like, oh, same, same, same, same, Yeah, well I 422 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 1: only remember the horrifying stuff so far. I don't remember, okay, 423 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 1: So tell us something from behind the scenes, behind the scenes, 424 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 1: like when we went out or something. Oh my god, really, yeah, 425 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:10,879 Speaker 1: there's one night where me and you and Jenny was 426 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:13,440 Speaker 1: there and Brian went out in Chicago. We had a 427 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:17,240 Speaker 1: press junk hit and in Chicago you went to Chicago. 428 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:20,399 Speaker 1: Wasn't me, It wasn't Are you sure, yeph Oh? Now 429 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 1: they never let my They never let me travel. My 430 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:27,119 Speaker 1: dad would always make some excuse why I couldn't go places. Wait, 431 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 1: san Francisco. Maybe it was San Francisco. It might have 432 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:35,119 Speaker 1: been San Francisco because we did like about three This 433 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:37,760 Speaker 1: is when I was on the heights and you guys 434 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 1: have done this already, and this was my first one. 435 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:41,959 Speaker 1: I think, Jenny, you were there? Are you sure I 436 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 1: was there? Though I'm almost positive you were there, Toriy, 437 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 1: just because it's just I can't imagine doing anything of 438 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:54,199 Speaker 1: publicity and you're not there. Happen. Well, this was my 439 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 1: first press junk hit, and you guys were all used 440 00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 1: to this, so everybody sort of went their separate ways, 441 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:00,520 Speaker 1: and Brian's like, I know where we're going, and we 442 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 1: had a limo and it was me and a couple 443 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 1: of the guys in the Heights and we went to 444 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:09,600 Speaker 1: some club that you guys had been to a million 445 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 1: times that I had never been to. And the second 446 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 1: you walked in, it was like Saturday night fever, Like 447 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:16,880 Speaker 1: the whole place parted, you know, and you just came 448 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:18,720 Speaker 1: walking in and you just were just walking in. But 449 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:21,280 Speaker 1: everyone's like, oh my god, look who it is. And 450 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 1: from that point forward you owned the club. And Brian 451 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 1: knew everybody in there, and he goes, can we get drinks? 452 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:29,679 Speaker 1: And Toby maguire was there because he was on a 453 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:37,359 Speaker 1: new show and this was in Chicago. La sure, I 454 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:40,439 Speaker 1: remember it as Chicago, but maybe I'm wrong because because 455 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 1: the night took a dark turn. Okay, we remember buying 456 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 1: drinks for Toby and he was I think was he 457 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:51,240 Speaker 1: there with Leo? No, he was just there unaccompanied like 458 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 1: his mother was like can I trust you? And we're 459 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 1: like sure, and we got him hammered. He never drank 460 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 1: alcohol before. He just kept getting He couldn't stop giggling, 461 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:04,640 Speaker 1: he couldn't talk. He just giggled for hours. And then 462 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:06,920 Speaker 1: Brian knew the band, and then we got on stage 463 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 1: at jam and then we just kept drinking and then 464 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 1: the next thing, I know, we had to be downstairs 465 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:14,760 Speaker 1: at this hotel at like seven am. Nobody slept and 466 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:16,879 Speaker 1: I had sunglasses on, and I was just like fielding 467 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 1: questions and I never you know, I'd never done this before, 468 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:21,159 Speaker 1: but I was just super hungover and I must have 469 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 1: looked like a drug addict. But yeah, oh yeah, it 470 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,359 Speaker 1: was just it was just starting that was cool. I 471 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:31,159 Speaker 1: was not there. We were we were so cool. You 472 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:33,680 Speaker 1: guys were the coolest. We were cool at the bar, 473 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 1: very high. We were fun back then, Jen, You're still 474 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:43,359 Speaker 1: fun fun remember the heyday, Jen? Remember back were not 475 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:47,320 Speaker 1: fun anymore. We were just at a nineties con this Ken, 476 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 1: and we were like I went out, I went out 477 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:53,200 Speaker 1: and I had fun, but you didn't. And then you 478 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 1: you were too tired the next night to go out. 479 00:26:55,040 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 1: It just wasn't fun. Oh I know, Oh my gosh, 480 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 1: I feel even worse about this. I had such Next time, 481 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:06,400 Speaker 1: you're gonna have to bring it next nineties con, Jen, 482 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 1: you're gonna be feeding me chicken tenders off a strip 483 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:16,440 Speaker 1: stripping pole because you've never done that. Sounds gross, That 484 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:21,560 Speaker 1: sounds gross. Wait, you don't remember that I fed you 485 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:25,440 Speaker 1: chicken tenders off a strip pole. I heart Vegas, Lance 486 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:29,040 Speaker 1: Bass for real. Oh yeah, that wasn't that long ago. 487 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:33,240 Speaker 1: And she was like, came here. Watch we got all wasted. 488 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:36,240 Speaker 1: And she goes, come here. Watch when she gets like this, 489 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:38,160 Speaker 1: I can make her do this with food. And she goes, 490 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:39,960 Speaker 1: come here, come here, And I was up there dancing. 491 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:45,680 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, guys, far hard the videos people 492 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 1: don't see what Oh gressfully hopefully we keep them under wraps. 493 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:55,000 Speaker 1: Oh my god, okay, we have to look Okay, So 494 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:59,399 Speaker 1: next time we're in Vegas, yeah, yes, we're gonna find you. Yeah, well, 495 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:02,480 Speaker 1: let's all hang out because I miss you. I miss 496 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 1: you too. I miss you guys a lot. We can go. 497 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 1: There's stripper poles as chicken tenders is unlimited things to do. 498 00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 1: We're in all fairness, we're a drag bar. It really 499 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:15,760 Speaker 1: wasn't that sexy that. It was like, that's we prefer 500 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:19,880 Speaker 1: that instead. Yeah, I'm down for that. All in all 501 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:24,720 Speaker 1: on board. Well, keep doing, keep doing you you're doing great. 502 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:26,959 Speaker 1: It's good to see you. Yeah, I can see you too. 503 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:30,120 Speaker 1: Happy birthday, Jenny. You can't do a happy birthday sack. 504 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:34,359 Speaker 1: Thank you, we love you. I love you guys. Byeee 505 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:38,200 Speaker 1: ah that made me miss him. Isn't he an angel? 506 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:43,600 Speaker 1: Just a rock role angel. He was always the best. 507 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:46,280 Speaker 1: He's in a big band. That's a that's a big band, 508 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 1: Corey Taylor. Yeah, he was always a super talented guy 509 00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 1: and super funny, like he should have gone on to 510 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 1: do comedy, like and it's wild the past and things take. Yeah. Yeah, 511 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 1: so if you guys are out there, go see his shows. 512 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 1: For sure, we should go. We should go to one. 513 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:06,080 Speaker 1: That'd be fun. Okay. We always say we're gonna do 514 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:15,800 Speaker 1: this and we don't. Nope, never, let's do it. Hey,