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Speaker 3: It's Friday. Welcome to The Herd. Jason McIntyre in for

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Speaker 3: Colin Coward. I am joined today. It's a bloomy day

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Speaker 3: if you're a New York Knicks fan. I'm joined today

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Speaker 3: by Rachel Nichols, who is not a Knicks fan, but

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Speaker 3: he likes the NBA just as much as I do.

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Speaker 3: We got a lot happening, Rachel, Oh my goodness. Adam Silver,

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Speaker 3: I know thanking, I know. We're gonna see some ic

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Speaker 3: changes coming out. We can talk about them allegedly, we'll

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Speaker 3: see what the league does. We got a couple of

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Speaker 3: great guests lined up, got some trouble, potentially a hit

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Speaker 3: in Baltimore for Lamar Jackson. I don't know if you

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Speaker 3: guys are seeing the quotes coming out of Baltimore not great.

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Speaker 3: We'll get to that in a little bit, But I

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Speaker 3: have to admit I need to start the show today

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Speaker 3: it's Friday, with.

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Speaker 4: A bit of an apology. You got to start here.

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Speaker 3: Yesterday we talked Cleveland Calves getting the number one seed.

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Speaker 3: We talked New York Knicks go to the NBA Finals.

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Speaker 3: I neglected to mention the Detroit Pistons, who are the

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Speaker 3: team with the best record in the NBA.

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Speaker 4: I don't know how they've done it. It's amazing.

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Speaker 3: Kate Cunningham starts off the second half with an unbelievable

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Speaker 3: performance at MSG last night.

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Speaker 4: Forty two points.

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Speaker 3: The Pistons, ladies and gentlemen have swept the Knicks, swept

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Speaker 3: them three nothing and beat them down all three games

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Speaker 3: this season badly.

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Speaker 4: Now here's what's even more special.

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Speaker 3: Last night they went into MSG without two of their

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Speaker 3: top seven, Jalen Duran and Beef stew both serving a

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Speaker 3: suspension for their goonery against Charlotte last week, getting in

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Speaker 3: a bit of an altercation there. And Detroit's win last night,

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Speaker 3: holy hell, very impressive. I saw some concern Knicks fans.

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Speaker 3: I saw some concern Nicks media. I mean, people are clamoring,

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Speaker 3: we need you, Honess.

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Speaker 4: It's over.

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Speaker 3: We're not going to the finals. Take a deep breath,

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Speaker 3: ladies and gentlemen. I love the NBA. It's also February.

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Speaker 3: Coming out of the All Star break. O g Annoby

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Speaker 3: was awful last night. Michael Bridges once again quite terrible.

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Speaker 3: People want to ship him FedEx anywhere, get him out

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Speaker 3: want to take a deep breath. Okay, let's not overreact

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Speaker 3: to a February loss or the other two losses to

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Speaker 3: the Pistons. And I'll just remind people this kind of

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Speaker 3: thing happens often in the East. I'm young enough to

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Speaker 3: remember those Toronto Raptors teams with Kyle Lowry and DeMar Derozen.

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Speaker 3: They were so dominant, fifty wins, sixty wins, crushing everybody

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Speaker 3: in the regular season, and I was told, hey, they

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Speaker 3: could go to the finals. This is the year. And

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Speaker 3: every single year Lebron James was in the East, he

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Speaker 3: would just smack them down in the playoffs. In fact,

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Speaker 3: one of them was an incredible sweep. I remember telling Coward,

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Speaker 3: course Lebron wins it with a light shot and it's like, okay, sweep.

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Speaker 3: And I also remember those Paul George teams in Indiana

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Speaker 4: Oh they're gonna break through.

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Speaker 3: They're gonna give Miami and Lebron problems. No, I mean

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Speaker 3: I even remember that Derek Rose team with the Bulls.

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Speaker 3: I'm just not totally ready to crown the Pistons like

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Speaker 4: Are they an excellent basketball team?

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Speaker 3: Yes, certainly, number two in defensive efficiency in the league.

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Speaker 3: Ladies and gentlemen, they lock you up. They got the bigs,

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Speaker 3: They never broke through Michael Jordan and the Bulls. They

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Speaker 3: I just think the Knicks need to I know this

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Speaker 3: is gonna sound cheap and cheesy. They just need to

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Speaker 3: They did not look like a team that was like, Oh,

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Speaker 3: we gotta have this, we gotta beat the Pistons tonight.

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Speaker 3: News flash, guys, what is this Detroit Pistons seed one?

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Speaker 3: I had to look this up. They haven't won a

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Speaker 3: But like, that's how long it's been since the Pistons

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Speaker 3: they can run. I'm not ready to put this team

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Speaker 4: Are they gonna win a series? They? They should? They

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Speaker 3: Be careful what those pesky LaMelo ball Charlotte squad?

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Speaker 4: They're dangerous, but Detroit should be fine.

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Speaker 3: But are they gonna get past the Donovan Mitchell, James

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Speaker 4: Are they gonna get by my Knicks?

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I still think when you break down

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Speaker 3: the Pistons and Knicks in a seven game series, and

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Speaker 3: I watched that series closely last year, Kid was awful

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Speaker 3: from three point lands seventeen percent. Jalen Brunston was the

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Speaker 3: best fire five players on the court belong to the Knicks. Sorry,

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Speaker 3: Jalen Duran, very good player, All Star trust Mcheal Bridges

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Speaker 3: Og of course, and Kat and Nick, Hey, no pressure.

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Speaker 3: If it fails, you just nuke the team and bring

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Speaker 4: No big deal.

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Speaker 4: A huge story in the Association.

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Speaker 3: And yesterday Adam Silver, yes Adam Silver, the commissioner of

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Speaker 3: was a collective yes we did it, populism, fans we won.

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Speaker 3: Adam Silver is going to fix tanking. And there was

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Speaker 3: So here is Adam Silver talking about the need to

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Speaker 5: The League is eighty years old. It's time to take

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Speaker 5: a fresh look at this and to see whether that's

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Speaker 5: an atiquated way of going about doing it. We got

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Speaker 5: to look at some fresh thinking here. I mean, what

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Speaker 5: we're doing, what we're seeing right now is not working,

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Speaker 5: There's no question about it. Are we seeing behavior that

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Speaker 5: is worse this year than we've seen in recent memory. Yes,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he's not wrong. This is an anomaly.

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Speaker 3: Okay, the tanking is excessive this year because this June's

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Speaker 3: draft is going to rival the nineteen eighty four draft

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Speaker 3: a start. But I was reading a quote from the

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Speaker 3: great Charlie Munger, who was essentially the right hand man,

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Speaker 3: and he said, well, what's the incentive. I'll show you

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Speaker 3: the outcome when you tell me the incentive. And the

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Speaker 3: star players like Darren Peterson, like Aj Debansa, like mister

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Speaker 3: Boozer and Duke. I mean, there's a slew of really

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Speaker 4: To getting good in the NBA. And I talked about this.

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Speaker 4: I think we talked about this yesterday.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So you can tank in soccer if you want,

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Speaker 3: that's fine, and you could go get the best goalie

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Speaker 3: change your fortunes. He's one of eleven players on the field. Yes,

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Speaker 3: you'll be at better, but he's not going to do

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Speaker 3: it the way a basketball player can do it.

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Speaker 4: There's only five guys on the court.

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Speaker 3: You get a superstar basketball player, instantly you become relevant.

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Speaker 3: I will point out Lebron James in Cleveland. What had

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Speaker 3: ousted in the first round, second round, Craig Craig E,

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Speaker 3: Lebron James, certifiable superstar.

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Speaker 4: You go to the moon.

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Speaker 3: You got one Ben in San Antonio. Hello, there were

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Speaker 3: teams tripping over themselves tanking that season. Go look it up.

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Speaker 3: You got one Ben Yama and they're now probably going

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Speaker 3: to be on top of the league for a decade.

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Speaker 3: One of my favorites, of course, is the San Antonio

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Speaker 3: guys remember this, and Greg Popovich was the GM, Yes,

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Speaker 4: David Robinson gets hurt, he's out for the season.

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Speaker 3: Greg Popovich fires the coach, a couple other players, Sean Elliott,

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Speaker 3: they're injured. Let's just shut it down. In tank, they

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Speaker 3: had won fifty nine games. They tank, win the lottery

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Speaker 3: and get a gentleman by the name of Tim Duncan.

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Speaker 3: Tanking works. They went from fifty nine wins to twenty wins.

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Speaker 3: they hit on. But tanking does work. I know people

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Speaker 3: hate that, but it is the best path to success

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Speaker 3: in the NBA. That's how you get a superstar because

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Speaker 3: if we're being like the Utah Jazz, you know, it's

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Speaker 3: Who's going to who's clamoring to get to Utah and

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Speaker 3: free agency. And that's not a knock on the city.

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Speaker 3: I went to Utah for my daughter's volleyball tournament. Salt

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Speaker 4: I just don't know that that's.

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Speaker 3: Where NBA players, you know, young twenty five year old

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Speaker 3: guys want to go sign and so the draft and

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Speaker 3: tanking is the best path to success. So this year

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Speaker 3: we see everybody. Last night there was a game between

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Speaker 3: This happens every year, just the extent is significant this year.

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Speaker 4: Because if you hire.

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Speaker 4: It's just never pretty. It can work, but it doesn't

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Speaker 3: We'll see Seattle's a perfect test case as McDonald's a

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Speaker 3: Maybe that won't work. And I read some quotes about,

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Speaker 3: oh my gosh, what a big loss Bears players. Declan

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Speaker 3: But you was clearly learned a lot so that I'm like, oh,

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Speaker 3: No, he was a standout youth baseball player in Iowa. Huh,

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Speaker 4: By the way, I'm still waiting for the goodbye.

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Speaker 3: You guys know you love a good goodbye when you

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Speaker 4: Maybe I missed it. Maybe it's possible I missed it.

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Speaker 3: I'm not online all the time, but Lamar wants a

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Speaker 4: But I think he still has room to grow as well.

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Speaker 9: I think that any player, it takes, you know, really

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Speaker 3: Hm.

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Speaker 4: I like that.

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Speaker 3: That sound a good, great SoundBite. He well spoken individual.

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Speaker 4: What's brewing in Baltimore. I don't know the answer.

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Speaker 3: Maybe this is all excellent and you get the new

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Speaker 3: they're not going to let Linderbaum go, are they?

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Speaker 4: The last three years? I think he's been a pro bowler.

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Speaker 4: Are we doing this?

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Speaker 3: New head coach, new OC, new play caller. I think

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Speaker 3: And I don't know what word to use to describe Lamar,

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Speaker 3: was injured. New head coach, new culture. You want everything

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Speaker 4: I'll be watching. Let's go to Rachel Nichols with the news.

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Speaker 3: No, no turn. I don't want to plant any seeds.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm just asking questions. We're allowed to do that, right,

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Speaker 4: You can just ask questions.

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Speaker 7: Do you want to actually break through the play leader.

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Speaker 4: And show up? And I are you wearing purples?

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Speaker 6: That that is not now?

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Speaker 4: That's on purple? Come on, contexts.

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Speaker 7: Let's let's go across the country to another team. The

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Speaker 7: also said he's coming back because Sheelhouse in here tight.

433
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Speaker 7: What do you expect to see from this new Rams oci?

434
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Speaker 4: Well, it's interesting because I thought they hired Cliff Kingsburg.

435
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Speaker 6: They did, but to be under him, what, Yeah, that

436
00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:41,400
Speaker 6: is crazy.

437
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Speaker 3: Yep. Kingsbury's oh see with your.

438
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Speaker 6: Washington team man a former head coach, but former head.

439
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Speaker 4: Coach and now he's below how do you say his name?

440
00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:53,840
Speaker 3: Shielhouse, Shillhouse. I don't know that that's interesting. But mcveigh's

441
00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:55,960
Speaker 3: still there. Stafford, so they should be fine.

442
00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:59,840
Speaker 7: His job previous to this is a very important job

443
00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:04,000
Speaker 7: in the system, in that whole like Shanahan McVay system

444
00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:07,840
Speaker 7: that they start the writing of the plays. So he's

445
00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:09,960
Speaker 7: got a guy. This guy has a lot of promise.

446
00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:12,439
Speaker 7: He's already got more experienced than you might think he

447
00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:16,240
Speaker 7: does just from the titles. And you have to wonder too,

448
00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:19,480
Speaker 7: if he interviewed for five jobs. There's a little bit

449
00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:23,040
Speaker 7: of McVeigh saying, hey, we'll promote you to this and

450
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Speaker 7: if you succeed as the Rams offensive coordinator. I mean,

451
00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:29,040
Speaker 7: look at what the Rams offensive coordinators have gone on

452
00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:32,680
Speaker 7: to do. They've had four OC's under McVeigh and all

453
00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:35,480
Speaker 7: four are now head coaches. And by the way, this

454
00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:37,960
Speaker 7: is good for the league too, because shiel House is black.

455
00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:42,320
Speaker 7: There is now only three offensive coordinators the twenty one

456
00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:45,440
Speaker 7: new offensive coordinators in the NFL, and he is the

457
00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:47,960
Speaker 7: third now who is black, which is better than two.

458
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Speaker 6: I guess. But it is good because.

459
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Speaker 7: If you have McVeigh putting them in position to get

460
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Speaker 7: a head coaching job. You know, we obviously had this

461
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Speaker 7: cycle this year where you had ten openings no black

462
00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:01,720
Speaker 7: head coaches, and that's problem. So this at least is

463
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Speaker 7: a step both for him personally hopefully a good step

464
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Speaker 7: for the Rams if you're a Rams fan, and for

465
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Speaker 7: the league and large.

466
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Speaker 3: And any Rams fans think I'm questioning this move. They're

467
00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:12,159
Speaker 3: my Super Bowl pick for next year. I don't know

468
00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:13,959
Speaker 3: how you can't pick them. Yeah, I still think they

469
00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:15,840
Speaker 3: were better than Seattle. But let's not go there.

470
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Speaker 7: Let's talk a little bit about Lakers expecting Luca, Lebron,

471
00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:23,399
Speaker 7: Austin Reeves. They're all going to be in the lineup together. Wow,

472
00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:25,320
Speaker 7: they're all going to be there. It's only the eleventh

473
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Speaker 7: time this season, which is kind of surprising to me.

474
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Speaker 7: Reeves will be off his minutes restriction from that calf injury.

475
00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:33,440
Speaker 7: Luca's expected to fully recover from a mild hamstring injury,

476
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Speaker 7: so generally health right, they sit at fifth in the

477
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Speaker 7: West right now, Jason, So this is it, this is

478
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Speaker 7: the final kick, right, What do you expect from them

479
00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:46,119
Speaker 7: going forward? Assuming these three guys can stay healthy.

480
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Speaker 3: Well, I surely expect them to win tonight, right, And I.

481
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Speaker 6: Can't believe that you said ten games together eleven? Oh

482
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Speaker 6: this will be the eleventh.

483
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, at what point do we have to

484
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Speaker 3: bake that into handicapping the Lakers? I mean, I could

485
00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:03,159
Speaker 3: god here last February, so in a calendar year, I

486
00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:05,320
Speaker 3: bet they haven't played sixty games together this year.

487
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Speaker 6: So what's a little hard right now?

488
00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:09,600
Speaker 7: With the NBA when you talk about, oh, can these

489
00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:12,040
Speaker 7: guys stay healthy and are rebaking that into a playoff run.

490
00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:15,160
Speaker 7: The moment there is anything to do with a hamstring

491
00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:17,680
Speaker 7: or calf injury, these guys are pulled off the board

492
00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:20,199
Speaker 7: because nobody wants to get an achilles and knock you

493
00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:23,399
Speaker 7: out for a year. So in a playoff situation, I

494
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:25,479
Speaker 7: don't know if they're getting pulled off the board that quickly.

495
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:27,680
Speaker 7: So I just don't know if it's as much of

496
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Speaker 7: an indicator healthwise as it may have once been.

497
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Speaker 3: Okay, and I see that the Clippers played last night

498
00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:36,560
Speaker 3: beat the Nuggets, so they're on a back to back

499
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Speaker 3: against the Lakers. Cool.

500
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Speaker 4: I played heavy minutes all Star weekend, played thirty three.

501
00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:44,520
Speaker 3: Minutes last night. Lakers got to be I haven't seen

502
00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:46,520
Speaker 3: a line on this one. Lakers got to be favored here.

503
00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:47,439
Speaker 3: They should win.

504
00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:49,679
Speaker 7: They should be favored. They have the tenth hardest strength

505
00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:52,119
Speaker 7: of schedule going forward. Lakers always have like a backloaded

506
00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:54,280
Speaker 7: schedule because they want to put them on primetime after

507
00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:58,240
Speaker 7: NFL season's over. But they are playing a bunch of

508
00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:01,879
Speaker 7: tanking teams. I counted like six seven games against teams

509
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:02,520
Speaker 7: that are tanking.

510
00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:05,960
Speaker 3: So what's your ceiling on the Lakers' standings wise, because

511
00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:08,280
Speaker 3: that Clippers win last night knocks the Nuggets down a peg.

512
00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:10,640
Speaker 4: Aaron Gordon looks like he's still at least two weeks away.

513
00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:15,240
Speaker 3: The Lakers are fifth, but they're literally one game out

514
00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:18,560
Speaker 3: of third yeap like Houston's there. We saw Houston get

515
00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:20,840
Speaker 3: a win last night. Nuggets are ahead of them, but

516
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:22,760
Speaker 3: there have got the injuries, Peyton Watson still hurt. If

517
00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:25,640
Speaker 3: the Lakers could just get healthy, can I mean, can

518
00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:27,919
Speaker 3: you imagine them at the three playing Minnesota again?

519
00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:28,600
Speaker 4: Yeah?

520
00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:30,760
Speaker 6: I mean, look, right now they play the Nuggets. That

521
00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:31,399
Speaker 6: hasn't gone that well.

522
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Speaker 4: I don't want to say it, Nugget, I do not

523
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:33,840
Speaker 4: want to see that.

524
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Speaker 3: I'd rather play Houston than the Nuggets, right because look.

525
00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:41,200
Speaker 7: I think the West, the way the bracket works out,

526
00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:43,159
Speaker 7: and this was true last year too, is going to

527
00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:46,200
Speaker 7: be the biggest indicator of who gets the Western Conference.

528
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Speaker 6: You have so many teams in a.

529
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Speaker 7: Clot who could beat each other, and it's just who

530
00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:53,600
Speaker 7: runs into who win. So you have a matchup that

531
00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:56,280
Speaker 7: could be in the conference finals, but instead we see

532
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Speaker 7: it in the first round, and whichever team loses, it's

533
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Speaker 7: going to be considered a failure for that season. When

534
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,400
Speaker 7: it could have been a conference finals matchup. So it's

535
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:06,840
Speaker 7: just I think, you know, every win is so important

536
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:09,640
Speaker 7: right now, and how that bracket ends up is really

537
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,480
Speaker 7: what's going to determine more even than how good the

538
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:12,840
Speaker 7: team is.

539
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:15,479
Speaker 3: The Only thing we know is Okac and the Spurs

540
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:17,560
Speaker 3: are going to be one two in some order. It's

541
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:21,080
Speaker 3: not a lock that Okac's won, Spurs could steal one. Yep.

542
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 3: After that, it's like you said, a log gym, I

543
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:26,600
Speaker 3: don't think. I don't see the sun's coming up. Curry

544
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,280
Speaker 3: is out for another one too long. Yeah, the Warriors

545
00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:29,760
Speaker 3: are cooked.

546
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:33,280
Speaker 4: Man. That West playoffs, that first round is gonna be

547
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:33,600
Speaker 4: so cool.

548
00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:37,720
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, all right, let's move on to the Eagles.

549
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Speaker 6: AJ Brown.

550
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Speaker 7: I feel like we've talked about AJ Brown and the

551
00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:44,960
Speaker 7: Eagles so many times this season. Uh definitely felt again

552
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:48,520
Speaker 7: destined for divorce once the season was over. But you

553
00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:51,560
Speaker 7: know Howie Rosemand he keeps saying, Jason, you don't trade

554
00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:52,480
Speaker 7: good players, and A J.

555
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:53,560
Speaker 6: Brown is a good player.

556
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:55,920
Speaker 7: A J on the other hand, has been linked to

557
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,919
Speaker 7: New England and his former coach Mike Frable, who had

558
00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:01,840
Speaker 7: a good relationship with and he's explaining a little bit.

559
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:02,879
Speaker 6: Why here, take a listen.

560
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 10: I want to make sure that you're you're staying engaged.

561
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:08,960
Speaker 10: And he's going to go over the keys to victory

562
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:10,439
Speaker 10: of the week, and he's going to and you and

563
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 10: you you better know him, like to the back of

564
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:15,679
Speaker 10: your hand, right. And so I used to write in

565
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:19,120
Speaker 10: my notebook because at the time I didn't.

566
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 3: Really like Ray.

567
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 4: I didn't really I didn't like him. I admit that

568
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 4: he knows that, and so I used to write.

569
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,200
Speaker 6: I hate Ray, I hate Ray, I hate.

570
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:29,399
Speaker 10: Rig When I say he holds every single player accountable

571
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:32,239
Speaker 10: from top to bottom, I don't care who it is, like,

572
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 10: that's who he is, and it makes the team come

573
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:39,440
Speaker 10: together because nobody, nobody's bigger than the team, nobody's bigger

574
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:41,520
Speaker 10: than the program, so you have to respect it.

575
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:45,919
Speaker 7: So largely he's saying, I used to hate it, but

576
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 7: then I realized the bigger picture, and now I really

577
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:51,080
Speaker 7: like him. And that obviously sparks. Oh is he going

578
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 7: to the Patriots Rivers?

579
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:55,000
Speaker 6: Of course? But I mean, do you think the Eagles

580
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:55,959
Speaker 6: should hang on to him?

581
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:57,879
Speaker 7: Because there's a lot of chatter out of Philadelphia right

582
00:27:57,920 --> 00:27:59,800
Speaker 7: now that the Eagles want to keep him and the.

583
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:03,440
Speaker 3: That's weird because during the season when it was ugly, Yeah,

584
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:04,760
Speaker 3: we got to get him out of town. Now that

585
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 3: there's been like no games for the Eagles for what

586
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 3: two months.

587
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,879
Speaker 7: Well, in fairness, Roseman never said we got to get

588
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:13,159
Speaker 7: him of town. His line over and over was you

589
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:14,320
Speaker 7: don't trade eleape player.

590
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:16,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I just met like the vibe with him

591
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,600
Speaker 3: talking and being unhappy and petulant.

592
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 4: I'm looking at the numbers. There's been a little bit

593
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 4: of a drop off, right.

594
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 3: He was a fourteen hundred yard kind of guy in

595
00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:29,719
Speaker 3: the first two years in Philly, last two years closer

596
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 3: to a thousand turning what twenty nine year in June. Yeah,

597
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:36,760
Speaker 3: we just saw the Dolphins get off Tyreek Hill because

598
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 3: I mean, he's hurt but.

599
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:39,160
Speaker 4: Still a bit of a headache.

600
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 3: Say, right, we've seen teams move off Stefan Diggs.

601
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 4: Do you want the headache, Rachel?

602
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:47,960
Speaker 6: It feels I mean, look, I'm not in that locker room.

603
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:50,719
Speaker 7: It feels to me like AJ Brown is more emotional

604
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:53,600
Speaker 7: than he is a headache. Right, those are two different things.

605
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:56,240
Speaker 7: I like that, right, So sort of you know, it's

606
00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:58,440
Speaker 7: the end of the world when he's not getting the

607
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:00,960
Speaker 7: targets he wants and they lose and all that stuff,

608
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 7: and it's great when it's all working together. I think

609
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,520
Speaker 7: the Eagles know he's still so talented, right, I mean

610
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 7: you say twenty nine like he's forty.

611
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:10,240
Speaker 6: He's twenty nine.

612
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Speaker 7: And also they've got a new offensive coordinator coming in,

613
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 7: and you know that continuity could be good for Hurt,

614
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:19,400
Speaker 7: So I wouldn't be surprised if he stays. And also

615
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 7: you do have the new OC who's supposed to bring

616
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 7: in more of those you know, it's all in vogue,

617
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:26,720
Speaker 7: the McVeigh, you know Shanahan.

618
00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:28,720
Speaker 6: Principles, and it's possible.

619
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Speaker 7: Those two have had a heart to heart as well,

620
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 7: because they did talk.

621
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Speaker 3: I mean, you guys had the Terry McLaurin situation in

622
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 3: Washington life. Yeah, right, he was unhappy when his contract

623
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:40,479
Speaker 3: got it yep, the season one sideways. Yeah, he's about

624
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:43,120
Speaker 3: I think he's a little older than A J. Brown.

625
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't.

626
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Speaker 3: I just you've worked with some headaches, I imagine in

627
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,959
Speaker 3: your time. No, I've never worked with any fortunately, never

628
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:51,840
Speaker 3: work with any headaches.

629
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:53,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I just.

630
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Speaker 3: Would rather not if I didn't have to. You know, like,

631
00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 3: if you can.

632
00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:01,520
Speaker 7: Get is that headache is a headache getting you fourteen

633
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 7: hundred of season.

634
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 3: No, but what if I could get a draft pick

635
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:09,239
Speaker 3: and someone via trade that give you eighty percent of

636
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:13,240
Speaker 3: AJ Brown minus the reading a book on the sideline stuff?

637
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:13,479
Speaker 9: Right?

638
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, it gets all the headlines and has people in

639
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:17,480
Speaker 3: the locker room. They put a freaking easter bunny in

640
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:20,360
Speaker 3: the locker room, didn't they? Yes? What is that a crap?

641
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:23,280
Speaker 4: You don't see that normally? Is that partially due to

642
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:23,480
Speaker 4: A J?

643
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:23,800
Speaker 2: Brown?

644
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:23,960
Speaker 1: Like?

645
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 4: What spurred that stuff?

646
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 3: I know?

647
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 6: Look, here's what I know.

648
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Speaker 7: I think how is the best of personnel in the

649
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 7: entire NFL. I think he is the best, And I

650
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:35,959
Speaker 7: think this will be a combination of what offer do

651
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,240
Speaker 7: they get if they have the feelers out there?

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Speaker 6: Are you getting that offer that you just said, I'd

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Speaker 6: take him for X.

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Speaker 7: If you're not getting that offer, then you keep him,

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Speaker 7: right if you feel in because you know the locker room,

656
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Speaker 7: you need that continuity. If Jalen Hurts comes to you

657
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Speaker 7: and says, I need that continuity, like, they keep him

658
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Speaker 7: if they get a blockbuster offer that they're not expecting,

659
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Speaker 7: because there's a lot of teams in the league right

660
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Speaker 7: now that could use a really good wide receiver, so

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Speaker 7: then maybe they do it. I just think that this

662
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Speaker 7: is probably not a black and white situation. I don't

663
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Speaker 7: think it's a we have to get rid of him situation.

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Speaker 7: And I don't think on his part, just listening to

665
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Speaker 7: what his teammates say, it's a he hates to be

666
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 7: your situation. It's just to your point, do we need

667
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 7: the headache? Do we need a guy who's emotional every week? Well,

668
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Speaker 7: it depends what we could get for him, because we

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Speaker 7: do need the yards, we do need the touchdowns.

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Speaker 4: I mean, and the draft is a crapshoot.

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Speaker 3: It's easy to say, go find Puka the Great exactly.

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Speaker 4: Okay, what about Key on Kong with the Buffalo Bill?

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Speaker 3: You know, like you just don't know totally what you're

674
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Speaker 3: gonna get. Rachel with the news, Well that's the news,

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Speaker 3: and thanks for stopping by the herd Line News. So

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Speaker 3: yesterday we talked about this potential farewell tour for Lebron Lakers.

677
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 3: Fans are all about it. Oh, bring us Yannest. Then

678
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:48,960
Speaker 3: we get the Lebron farewell tour. But now we're getting

679
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Speaker 3: some pushback. Can you have a farewell tour and compete

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Speaker 3: for a championship.

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Speaker 4: Can that possibly be done?

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Speaker 3: We'll talk about that next.

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Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd Weekdays

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Speaker 2: and Noon Easter not a im pacifics heads.

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Speaker 7: To Atlanta Kyle Larson and the best of the Best

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Speaker 7: taken on Echo Park Speedway for some high speed chaos.

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Speaker 7: Jason pre race coverage begins. It to Eastern with the

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Speaker 7: green flag at three only.

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Speaker 6: I'm Fox.

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Speaker 9: All right.

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Speaker 3: Yesterday I went deep into the idea that Lebron could

692
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Speaker 3: have a farewell tour with the Lakers. A streaming service

693
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Speaker 3: would get involved. It sounded awesome and tasty and Lakers

694
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Speaker 3: fans loved it. Bit of a problem, something not considered

695
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Speaker 3: that someone brought up in the morning meeting. So Jay MC,

696
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Speaker 3: remember that Michael Jordan farewell tour with the Wizards. Yeah,

697
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Speaker 3: they were a disaster. They couldn't get to the playoffs.

698
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Speaker 3: Do you remember the Kobe Bryant farewell tour? It was

699
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Speaker 3: awesome watching Kobe go off. The Lakers were not a

700
00:32:55,600 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 3: good basketball team. They didn't win forty games. Someone also

701
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 3: referenceding Dirt Novitski farewell tour. They did not make the playoffs.

702
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Speaker 3: The only one that I could find of the big

703
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 3: time farewell tours to make the playoffs. Was Kareem Abdul Jabbar. Now,

704
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Speaker 3: that's not to take anything away from Kobe's. Kobe's was spectacular.

705
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:19,240
Speaker 3: Everybody in La remembers that vividly final game. I mean,

706
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Speaker 3: just the stuff dreams are made of.

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Speaker 4: Unbelievable.

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Speaker 3: Okay, if Lebron wants to do a well tour with

709
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Speaker 3: the Lakers and the Lakers want to get Yannis, now

710
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Speaker 3: there is a report according to the Athletic that the

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Speaker 3: Lakers are preparing an all out pursuit for Jannis. Should

712
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Speaker 3: not surprise anybody. Can they serve both masters? Can they

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Speaker 3: do the farewell tour for Lebron? And although Hoopla that's

714
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Speaker 3: involved with that. Every arena you go to all about

715
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Speaker 3: the king and also try to go for a championship

716
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Speaker 3: because you don't remember the Kareem Abduljabbar run in nineteen

717
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Speaker 3: eighty nine. The Lakers had had an amazing run in

718
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Speaker 3: the eighties. They were kind of petering out at the end,

719
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Speaker 3: and Jabar was like a ten point five rebound guy.

720
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Speaker 3: You know, Cap my dad's favorite basketball player of all time.

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Speaker 3: He had the goggles. He wasn't like the centerpiece of

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Speaker 3: the team or anything. He wasn't even like an Innie

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Speaker 3: girl thirty minute a game.

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Speaker 2: Guy.

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Speaker 4: I think he was playing like twenty minutes a game.

726
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Speaker 3: And so this would be unforeseen to try to have

727
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Speaker 3: Lebron still be one of the key players on the

728
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Speaker 3: team while doing a farewell tour and oh, by the way,

729
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Speaker 3: going for another championship.

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Speaker 4: That's crazy.

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Speaker 3: And then and this is the part that I also

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Speaker 3: had not considered. This is why I love feedback. Does

733
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Speaker 3: Giannis want to get involved in something like that, Hey, Yannis,

734
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Speaker 3: come to La play with Luca awesome?

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Speaker 4: Sick?

736
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Speaker 3: Or you're keeping Austin Reeves too nice? We got a

737
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Speaker 3: squad and Lebron's gonna stay two on the cheap and

738
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Speaker 3: do a farewell tour. Huh, how were we gonna pull

739
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Speaker 3: that off? It's gonna be you mean, I'm coming to

740
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Speaker 3: La and it's gonna be all about Lebron. Cause, if

741
00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:00,200
Speaker 3: we're being honest, I know the Lakers want Luca to

742
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 3: be like, it's Lucas team. Luca's been there for a year.

743
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 4: How could it be his team. It's not like they

744
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:08,279
Speaker 4: drafted him, they.

745
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Speaker 3: Traded for him. Yeah, I mean, it's not as much

746
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 3: Yannis's team, but like it's barely Lucas team. If anybody's

747
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 3: it's Lebron's. So these are questions that we got to answer.

748
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Speaker 4: And that's why I know some people are like.

749
00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:23,279
Speaker 3: Oh, the NBA tanking, blah blah blah. These are the

750
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Speaker 3: subplots that have me up at night like dreaming of cool,

751
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:29,719
Speaker 3: fun scenarios and what's gonna happen. Because I'm gonna be

752
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 3: honest with you guys this whole Yannis, Oh, I saw

753
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:33,879
Speaker 3: the Miami Heat.

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Speaker 4: Want janis okay?

755
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Speaker 3: Great? Are they giving up Bam Outabayo?

756
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Speaker 10: No?

757
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:39,440
Speaker 4: Oh, so they're giving up everybody butt Bam.

758
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Speaker 3: So you're telling me Yiannis is leaving a bad situation,

759
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:46,279
Speaker 3: non playoff team in Milwaukee and he now wants to

760
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Speaker 3: go to Miami to play with Bam out of Bayo

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00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 3: and do what exactly where are they going?

762
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Speaker 4: If anything?

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Speaker 3: You want to play with Lebron? Now obviously you know

764
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 3: Lebron has There's a lot that comes with that. By

765
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:00,919
Speaker 3: the way, Lebron was asked this weekend and this past

766
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:04,400
Speaker 3: weekend about his future and uh, I kind of like

767
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:04,880
Speaker 3: his answer.

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Speaker 11: Here we go, I want to live when I know

769
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Speaker 11: you guys know I don't know.

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Speaker 9: I have no idea.

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Speaker 11: I just want to I just want to live, that's all.

772
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:17,799
Speaker 11: And how is your personal uncertainty for the summer and

773
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Speaker 11: beyond for your career play as a factor in your

774
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 11: urgency here? N this were getting as we gearing him

775
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 11: towards the postseason. So it has nothing to do with

776
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 11: that same same motivation, same id factor. Just you know

777
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:36,799
Speaker 11: this is uh, We've got past the marathon and now

778
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 11: just the sprinting is about to start.

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Speaker 3: Gosh, he's good. So like these other scenarios for you, honest,

780
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Speaker 3: I keep looking at him, there's nowhere great guys Miami.

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Speaker 4: Does it make sense? The Knicks kind of does.

782
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Speaker 3: But if you've got to give up og and kat

783
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Speaker 3: Ken Yannis Brunson bridges heart.

784
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Speaker 4: Is that a championship team probably probably in the East.

785
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:04,600
Speaker 3: But if you're honest, you're going to Jalen Brunson's team.

786
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 3: They traded for him, they love him. He's the man

787
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 3: in New York City. And I don't know how much

788
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:12,400
Speaker 3: that stuff matters because I'm not, you know, on the

789
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:15,879
Speaker 3: ground floor there. But if we're being honest, when Kevin

790
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 3: Durant went to Golden State, that was a thing that

791
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 3: was a talking point. He was asked about it. You're

792
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 3: going to Curry's team. Now, Kevin Durant's a little different.

793
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Speaker 3: I think we're gonna talk about his burner maybe later

794
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 3: in the show, hopefully.

795
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Speaker 4: I think we'll talk about that.

796
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Speaker 9: But like, not.

797
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Speaker 3: Everybody's built different. Maybe honest doesn't care if he goes

798
00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:37,880
Speaker 3: to Jalen Brunson's team. Maybe it's a goofy idea to

799
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 3: even say it's Jalen Brunson's team. So I keep coming

800
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 3: back to listen, what's wrong with the Lakers. It's not

801
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 3: like Luca is the guy, but it's not his team.

802
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:48,719
Speaker 3: Does that make any sense?

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Speaker 6: Rachel, Like, I think it kind of.

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Speaker 7: I don't think it's a comparable situation to Kad and

805
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 7: the Warriors. So Katie hadn't won yet, had not won yet,

806
00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 7: and he went to the Warriors who had already won

807
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 7: and in fact had been in him in the previous

808
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:06,239
Speaker 7: playoff series, and so the accusation was, oh, you need

809
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:08,719
Speaker 7: to go to the guy that beat you to actually win,

810
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:11,400
Speaker 7: and that sort of thing. In this case, Yannis is

811
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:14,799
Speaker 7: the one who's won, right, whether he goes to play

812
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:16,839
Speaker 7: with a co star and Luca or a co star

813
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:20,239
Speaker 7: in Jalen Brunson. The Knicks haven't won anything nothing right

814
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 7: in what since seventy three or whatever it was, so

815
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Speaker 7: for my time. So if Yannis goes to the Knicks

816
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:30,880
Speaker 7: just as an example, right, and they win the story

817
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:33,680
Speaker 7: if you want to play one of those storylines, if

818
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 7: you want, if you want to get into the who

819
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 7: helped too, which I personally think is a little ridiculous,

820
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Speaker 7: but I do know that's how NBA narratives work, Like

821
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Speaker 7: it will be that Yannis brought championship mentality and championship

822
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 7: whatever and whatever, and he got them over the hump

823
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:49,719
Speaker 7: and all of that same thing, by the way, a

824
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Speaker 7: little bit with Luca, although less so just because the

825
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:54,560
Speaker 7: Lakers want a title in twenty twenty. Yeah, you know,

826
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Speaker 7: I think your question about sort of what does Janis

827
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:00,120
Speaker 7: want to do and does he want to be on

828
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:02,160
Speaker 7: the team with the Lebron farewell tour or something like

829
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:04,880
Speaker 7: that is important only because we've talked.

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Speaker 6: About all this hemming and Huyng. Yannis has done. It

831
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:09,279
Speaker 6: has accomplished one very important thing.

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Speaker 7: It has gotten the ball kicked down to this summer,

833
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 7: and this summer the Bucks are going to say, do

834
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Speaker 7: you want to sign a contract extension on October first,

835
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Speaker 7: and if he says no, right, they're going to have

836
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 7: to trade him.

837
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Speaker 6: And at that point, he will only have one year

838
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Speaker 6: left on his.

839
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Speaker 7: Contract, So he's going to have enormous say over where

840
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:31,239
Speaker 7: he goes, where he wouldn't have had even in this

841
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 7: last trade deadline. He's going to have pretty much ultimate

842
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:36,480
Speaker 7: say because the Bucks want a big trade package, and

843
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 7: in order to have a big trade package, you have

844
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Speaker 7: to know Yannis is going to be on your team

845
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Speaker 7: for more than a year. Not many people want to

846
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:46,239
Speaker 7: do the Toronto Kuai think. So in that case, is

847
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Speaker 7: Lebron on the team for a farewell tour? What's going

848
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 7: on with the Knicks and what personnel will they have left?

849
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Speaker 7: What's going on in Miami? Jannis and his people are

850
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:56,759
Speaker 7: going to be considering that just as much as the

851
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:58,279
Speaker 7: Bucks are going to be considering how much are we

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00:39:58,320 --> 00:39:58,759
Speaker 7: getting back?

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Speaker 3: So if Yannis is considering all that stuff, why would

854
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 3: he go to Miami? Like Minnesota would have to give

855
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:08,719
Speaker 3: up everything except Ant? So do you want to go

856
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:10,400
Speaker 3: play with Ant in Minnesota?

857
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Speaker 4: Will you sign there?

858
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:14,320
Speaker 3: Because I keep coming back to this and the reporters

859
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:17,479
Speaker 3: won't talk about it. Ultimately, they could say, be honest,

860
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Speaker 3: We've got a package to send you to Miami. Sorry, guys,

861
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Speaker 3: I don't want to go there. I'm not signing long

862
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Speaker 3: term there. Do you think Miami would have the appetite

863
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 3: to try the Kawhi thing? So now it comes back

864
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Speaker 3: to if Jannis can just say I'm signing with the

865
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Speaker 3: Lakers like Anthony Davis, I'm going there, make the deal happen.

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Speaker 2: Sorry.

867
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Speaker 4: Is he willing to be that bad of the guy, though.

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Speaker 6: I don't think that makes him a bad guy? Is business?

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Speaker 7: That is business as usual in the NBA. Look, Giannis

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Speaker 7: is a little bit less of a do what I

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Speaker 7: say guy. Then I don't know James Harden or something

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Speaker 7: like that, right, I'm just doing for extreams, you know.

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Speaker 7: And it's possible if the Nixon Lakers both have good packages,

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Speaker 7: he'll be like, I'll go to either.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: One thing he said last summer that got a little

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Speaker 7: lost in the shuffle is he's like, oh, I like

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Speaker 7: big cities. I like big cities, he said, you know,

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Speaker 7: and that's a little bit where the New York LA

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Speaker 7: Miami thing known.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: Absolutely, But I'm just I'm just saying that I think

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Speaker 7: that when the lure is the lure of playing with

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Speaker 7: Luca or the lure of going. By the way, whoever

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Speaker 7: goes to New York and wins the title there is

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Speaker 7: going to be a hero in a way that like

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Speaker 7: we haven't seen in the NBA in a long time,

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Speaker 7: because the biggest fan base in the NBA and they

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Speaker 7: are the thirstiest and you are one of them.

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Speaker 3: Mister, well I am, but I also know, like if

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Speaker 3: you go there and don't win, like I remember what

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Speaker 3: they did to Patrick Ewing, like and that was my

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Speaker 3: guy growing up. It was Magic and Patrick Ewing. Those

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Speaker 3: are my two favorite players.

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Speaker 7: So do you think he has the best chance to

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Speaker 7: win with Luca Austin Reeves than anyone in your team

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Speaker 7: or anywhere else?

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Speaker 6: Okay, well, then there you go.

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Speaker 7: And then that brings up the question you started the

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Speaker 7: segment with is and by the way, it's not just

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Speaker 7: a farewell tour, it's Lebron's defense isn't what it used

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Speaker 7: to be. He's going to be even more of a

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Speaker 7: target next year or if he plays, because it's going

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Speaker 7: to be.

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Speaker 6: An older in age pull him off the floor in

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Speaker 6: the final minu And that's what I mean, right, right.

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Speaker 7: I mean, are you pulling him off the floor at

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Speaker 7: the end of a championship situation or something like that,

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Speaker 7: And how is he going to feel about that?

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Speaker 6: And is that bad vibes in the locker room?

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Speaker 7: I mean it's just you know, also you get someone

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Speaker 7: else in that position. There's a lot to consider for

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Speaker 7: the Lakers.

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Speaker 3: See, we could find positive topics besides tanking. See it

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Speaker 3: comes to the NBA all right now, I will preface

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Speaker 3: this coming up next at the top of the hour.

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Speaker 3: So we struggle badly. Race is already laughing because you know,

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Speaker 3: we struggle badly to narrow down this list, but we

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Speaker 3: have the top ten American NBA stars to build around.

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Speaker 4: Kevin Durana is not on this list. That's just a

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Speaker 4: heads up. Steph Curry is.

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Speaker 3: Oh boy, it's gonna be fun.