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Speaker 2: It is Jaguars Happy Hour and welcome to the Team

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Speaker 2: Hotel in Troy, Michigan. Day two of Jaguars Lions practice

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Speaker 2: on Thursday. The Jags will practice alone Friday, and then

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Speaker 2: the game coming up Saturday, preseason week two for the

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Speaker 2: Jaguars and the Lions. Busy day, of course, busy two

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Speaker 2: hours ahead on Tenjinexcel ninety two point five FM, Jaguars

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Speaker 2: dot Com and Jaguars YouTube. Jags Lions again today, of course,

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Speaker 2: the review of today's practice. No pads, we'll get to

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Speaker 2: Jeff Logoman coming up and get his the Kai Stevens

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Speaker 2: coming up at four thirty today to join us as well,

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Speaker 2: and playing time in preseason week two. We'll see you

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Speaker 2: know who could play. There may not be as many

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Speaker 2: as you think from the front line playing in this

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Speaker 2: game on Saturday, and then at five o'clock to Doug

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Speaker 2: Peterson's show, we'll hear from Doug Peterson in his press

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Speaker 2: conference earlier this week. Wednesday, he'll join us live again

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Speaker 2: starting Week one, when the Jaguars face the Indianapolis Colts

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Speaker 2: up at Lucas Oil Stadium. Ahead of that game, Trevor

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Speaker 2: Lawrence spoke with a media after practice today, discussing the

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Speaker 2: difference in seeing another team across the ball. In some ways, I.

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Speaker 3: Think it's better because you get to really, you know,

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Speaker 3: hand pick the situations you do and get to get

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Speaker 3: all that work in. Like it's hard in preseason you

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Speaker 3: don't know which situations are gonna come up, how much

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Speaker 3: you're gonna play, all that stuff. But out here, you

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Speaker 3: know you can kind of protect yourself a little bit,

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Speaker 3: but also get the work in, get a lot of plays,

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Speaker 3: get a lot of different situations. Where so that's that's

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Speaker 3: really good.

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Speaker 2: That's Trevor Lawrence. The full availability after practice on Jaguars

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Speaker 2: Jeff Flogoman, Jaguars analyst, Good afternoon, afternoon, JP, we're back. Yeah, yeah, no,

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Speaker 2: in great weather here too, you know, by the way, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: pretty nice. It's been nice to see a practice where

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Speaker 2: you have another team involved in the environment that we have.

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Speaker 2: It's just been a joy to be outside. And I'm

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Speaker 2: sure the players loved every minute of it because I

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Speaker 2: could you could kind of tell. I mean, day two.

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Speaker 2: Typically you kind of have guys that run out of

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Speaker 2: energy when it's hot. I think it was probably more

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Speaker 2: spirited today than maybe yesterday. I felt like it right

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Speaker 2: without pads today, there was a little bit of that chippiness.

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Speaker 2: Yesterday you might expected some thud tempo, a lot of

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Speaker 2: that extracurricular things kind of went on, but nothing really

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Speaker 2: over the edge today. Okay, it's gotta be light right,

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Speaker 2: there's no hold on, let me finish today. Okay, let's

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Speaker 2: take the pads off. It's really gonna be light right. No, no, no,

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Speaker 2: there was a little more of that today, it felt like,

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Speaker 2: and you're right to your point. The energy was still

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Speaker 2: there for both teams. They both have a lot to

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Speaker 2: prepare for and some expectations now for both sides that

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Speaker 2: they're trying to meet. Well, I think there was a

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Speaker 2: little bit that was over the edge, okay, and that

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Speaker 2: was I think because of the Detroit Lions defense. They

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Speaker 2: were slinging some of the Jaguar offensive playmakers around a

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Speaker 2: little bit in no pads, and there's just absolutely no

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Speaker 2: reason to have that. There was multiple two different occasions. Okay.

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Speaker 2: Jamichael Hasty ended up having a linebacker Jack Jack Campbell,

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Speaker 2: their second first round pick that they had. He throws

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Speaker 2: Jamichael Hasty kind of into the boundary. I mean, what

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Speaker 2: what are you doing? I mean, it's totally unnecessary. And

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Speaker 2: then the defensive tackle, John Kaminski grabs Jamal Agnew kind

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Speaker 2: or shot put. I mean, what are you doing? I mean,

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Speaker 2: and I will give the defense, excuse me, the offense credit.

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Speaker 2: They kept their cool, and you want to keep your cool,

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Speaker 2: but at the same token, you can't take that crap.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you have to be able to stand up

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Speaker 2: And I liked the way that they did that. Kaminski

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Speaker 2: But Core's help Core heads prevailed a lot of the

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Speaker 2: yesterday a lot of the time was doing a lot

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Speaker 2: you know, chirping from afar to keep it going. Well, look,

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Speaker 2: the reality is is that the Detroit Lions defense was

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Speaker 2: the worst defense in the National Football League last year

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Speaker 2: and yards allowed thirtieth in points allowed, and so, look,

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Speaker 2: they're trying to change the way that they do their business.

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Speaker 2: And CJ. Gardner Johnson is a guy that was brought

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Speaker 2: in because he's he's vocal, he is I guess he

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Speaker 2: think they're trying to establish an identity. And I've said

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Speaker 2: to work on establishing the identity. That identity doesn't necessarily

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Speaker 2: need trash talking and cheap shots against the opponent and

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Speaker 2: a joint practice. But you know what I'm saying is

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Speaker 2: that that look, when you are a unit that is

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Speaker 2: trying to establish yourself, there's a certain way that you

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Speaker 2: want to have people perceive you how you play the game.

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Speaker 2: It is a second week in a row for the

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Speaker 2: Lions to host a joint practice, by the way, so

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Speaker 2: not the first time they've had a team in this

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Speaker 2: training camp. We're on TENTENXL ninety two point five FM

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Speaker 2: Shaguars Happy Our JP Shadwick with Jeff Logoman. You know

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Speaker 2: what helps a defensive swagger, pass rush and a guy

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Speaker 2: that can do it. And Aiden Hutchinson, now going into

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Speaker 2: and he once again closed the door on Aiden Hutchinson.

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Speaker 2: Didn't give him anything. Now, Aiden Hutchinson ended up beating

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Speaker 2: some of the backups, but you know that were behind

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Speaker 2: Anton Harrison. He's had a great spin move and on

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Speaker 2: one occasion, but look, Anton Harrison continues to look exceptional.

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Speaker 2: The shoulder is an issue that's going to be something

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Speaker 2: that he's gotten enough time to recover, et cetera. But

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Speaker 2: work for hair. I saw you we were on Huddle

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Speaker 2: Up yesterday on Jaguars dot Com and the Jaguars YouTube,

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Speaker 2: and you mentioned the harness that's on his right arm.

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Speaker 2: I saw that today, right, the black kind of sling

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Speaker 2: Anton Harrison. Of course, Jaguar is right tackle who was limited.

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Speaker 2: Let's say in practice today, a couple defensive players were

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Speaker 2: We saw a walker little slide inside the guard again

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Speaker 2: a little bit today. He's been doing some of that

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Speaker 2: It's out there in public practices that hey, just to

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Speaker 2: guess the question. I didn't get to see the one

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Speaker 2: I can't be looking everywhere. Well, that's right, but I

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Speaker 2: haven't seen that yet. And Cam's a tackle. Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: think Cam could play guard in a pinch, But you know,

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Speaker 2: he's long, he's big, he's he's out athletic. Could he

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Speaker 2: play guard, sure, but I think he's more natural position

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Speaker 2: round grade on him. I said, all right, so tell

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Speaker 2: me the truth. I mean, is he psycho? Is he?

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Speaker 2: You know? Is he? Is he not smart? He goes No,

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Speaker 2: He's got great character. He has all of the things

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Speaker 2: that are you want out of a player upstairs. I mean,

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Speaker 2: he was just a guy that was a safety that

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Speaker 2: unless safeties make a ton of plays on balls like

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Speaker 2: Andre Cisco at Syracuse is right, a lot of intercept,

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Speaker 2: tremendous ball skills making the play on the ball. Unless

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Speaker 2: you're a safety that has those numbers, you can get overlooked,

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Speaker 2: and he got overlooked. But there's no overlooking this young man.

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Speaker 2: I think he's going to be the steal of the

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Speaker 2: Hopefully he doesn't miss too much time because as we've

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Speaker 2: seen in the past with not just with the Jaguars,

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Speaker 2: but you see this with other teams, when young players

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Speaker 2: miss a lot of time early, it has a significant

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Speaker 2: impact on their ability to perform in year one. We

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Speaker 2: saw that a little bit last year. Obviously, Devin Lloyd

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Speaker 2: missed a lot of training camp and at a different position,

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Speaker 2: but it kind of caught up with him as the

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Speaker 2: season went along. There. Jaguars happy hour, we continue on

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Speaker 2: defense and fully Phatikasi off to the side, and really

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Speaker 2: kind of a week to week thing. It feels like

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Speaker 2: he could be ready by week one. That's the hope.

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Speaker 2: At least it's not as at least initially not as

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Speaker 2: bad as thought. But they're gonna give him some time

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Speaker 2: day to day, week to week to see you can improve. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, but I mean we heard that. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna ad the but he was banged up a

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Speaker 2: lot last year, banged up a lot last year. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: but this is a foot or ankle or something down there, Okay,

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Speaker 2: and big men and guys that move that kind of weight.

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Speaker 2: the foot, it can affect the best of the best.

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Speaker 2: And we're not talking about an offensive lineman here. Offensive

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Speaker 2: lineman a little bit more methodical. They know where they're

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Speaker 2: going where defense is reactive, and you're being reactive with

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Speaker 2: three hundred and twenty pounds three hundred pounds whatever votocost

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Speaker 2: he ends up weighing. But I talked with him a

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Speaker 2: little bit today. He's positive, he's upbeat about he's pretty

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Speaker 2: confident about it. And I think this is something that

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Speaker 2: the injury, that this is something that he can work

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Speaker 2: back from. So it's encouraging that this is not going

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Speaker 2: to be anything long term, or may may not be

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Speaker 2: anything long term. I always like to say may, because

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Speaker 2: you know, coaches and trainers say, well, you know this

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Speaker 2: is not gonna be long term. Well, last time I checked,

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Speaker 2: it's not your body, and you're not the one who's

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Speaker 2: feeling how you feel. You know what I mean. Nothing's

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Speaker 2: everything's minor if it's not happening to you. Right well, exactly,

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Speaker 2: right back in a moment. Plenty more ahead coming up

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Speaker 2: in press conferences earlier this week. He'll be back live

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Speaker 4: Much, Thanks for having me. Let me come downstairs and

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Speaker 4: hang out.

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Speaker 2: Come on down here we are and hey, another day

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Speaker 2: of practice today. No pads today, but we're just talking

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Speaker 2: about it earlier. Still a little bit of an edge

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Speaker 2: between these two teams that really want to take the

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Speaker 2: next step.

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Speaker 5: Go little saucy at the end there, right right before

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Speaker 5: things ended. But I think it's a good kind of,

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Speaker 5: you know, competition. At least Trevor was talking afterwards. We

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Speaker 5: caught up with him and he was like, I like it.

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Speaker 5: I like that little like, you know, a little something something,

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Speaker 5: little fire. You don't have the same kind of mentality

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Speaker 5: when you're going up against your own team. You want

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Speaker 5: to get better, but it's not quite the same thing,

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Speaker 5: or you hope not if it's good culture around you.

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Speaker 5: So just having that little bit of competition, I think

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Speaker 5: it was definitely more on our offensive starters and their

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Speaker 5: defensive starters than it was the other side of the field.

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Speaker 5: They watched them for like a good hour yesterday and

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Speaker 5: it wasn't as chippy necessarily our defense.

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Speaker 2: Are you sure you watched that side of the field.

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Speaker 2: There's a little that's got to say. There's a little

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Speaker 2: chippiness going on off to the sideline too.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we're very hard around here. I like to say, really.

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Speaker 2: Some chippiness on X or whatever it's called now, and

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Speaker 2: but hey, and you're right there. That was the where

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Speaker 2: the bulk of it was today. Jamal Agnew is a

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Speaker 2: former Lion, so he was hearing it from the sideline.

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Speaker 2: We'll hear from Jamal coming up in the Doug Peterson Show.

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Speaker 2: I caught up with him after practice to talk about

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Speaker 2: some of that today and dealing with some of his

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Speaker 2: former teammates and the whole deal. It's just kind of

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Speaker 2: part of it when you get in a joint practice

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Speaker 2: like this and he's he's Jamal is such a great guy,

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Speaker 2: you know, and it's not like that he left here

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Speaker 2: on bad terms. And the crazy thing is is what

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Speaker 2: it's it's been what three years removed since he was

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Speaker 2: a member of the Detroit Lions. The roster changeover in

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Speaker 2: three years for with NFL teams.

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Speaker 4: Can be almost completely different.

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Speaker 2: I mean totally different. So I'm sure there's a lot

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Speaker 2: of guys on this football team that are going he

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Speaker 2: used to play for the Lions? What right? So that works?

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Speaker 2: Stevens is with us? All right? So what stood out

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Speaker 2: today the most to you about this Jags team? I

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Speaker 2: know it's tough, no pads to day, A little different

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Speaker 2: feel to me. K was, Hey, these guys in the

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Speaker 2: red zone are pretty good Jags on offense.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I forgot a Chamelion.

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Speaker 2: Ridley and Kirk. They had another really good few moments.

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Speaker 4: Today and thinks are coming together.

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Speaker 5: Obviously, when in that first preseason game you see Trevor

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Speaker 5: throw pick, you're maybe like, oh, what is this actually

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Speaker 5: working out? But you have to remember Calvin Ridley, as

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Speaker 5: talented as he is, is a new piece to this

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Speaker 5: offense and working someone as talented as that is into

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Speaker 5: what you already have is difficult. And also, as we

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Speaker 5: like to stay around here, Trevor is going to his

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Speaker 5: second year, so there's always that second year jump as

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Speaker 5: he figures things out, gets a little more comfortable.

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Speaker 4: And he's so comfortable with.

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Speaker 5: Christian Kirk, with Evan Ingram, and that shows now and

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Speaker 5: even Jay Jones. I mean, it's just it's very clear

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Speaker 5: that he feels comfortable and they have that trust factor

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Speaker 5: built in.

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Speaker 2: How about the catch that Jay Jones had today? It

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Speaker 2: was like a one handed I mean, just a freaking catch.

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Speaker 2: I didn't think he was going to catch it. I

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Speaker 2: was like, oh, oh my goodness. I was over there

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Speaker 2: hollering and go lookt that catch. And Trevor is so blessed, fortunate,

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Speaker 2: whatever word you want to use that he has arguably

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Speaker 2: the hardest working group of skill position players that I've

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Speaker 2: ever seen in Jaguars history. And I don't throw around

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Speaker 2: superlatives very much, but I can't think of a group

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Speaker 2: that's worked harder than this group for their quarterback with

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Speaker 2: Evan Ingram and Zey and Christian Kirk. Day in and

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Speaker 2: day out, these guys come to work, to go and

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Speaker 2: practice at one hundred miles of night. They don't take

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Speaker 2: reps off, they don't coast, they don't come out there

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Speaker 2: with their shoestring or their shoes not completely tied because

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Speaker 2: they know they're not going at full speed. And look,

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Speaker 2: the reality is there's been some divas in the National

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Speaker 2: Football League that will come out to practice in a

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Speaker 2: padded practice, okay, and it's on grass and they're wearing

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Speaker 2: astro turf shoes, which means their whole plan is to

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Speaker 2: not go move fast enough to where they need the grip.

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Speaker 2: Whereas these guys come out their tape, they're ready to

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Speaker 2: rock and roll, and they're one hundred miles an hour.

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Speaker 2: I mean even Calvin Ridley, and I was always one

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Speaker 2: of these guys that is, when you watch the beginning

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Speaker 2: of training camp, you always want to watch see how

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Speaker 2: the chemistry plays out, especially when you got a new

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Speaker 2: guy like Calvin Ridley, because the chemistry last year was

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Speaker 2: really good with Christian Kirk and Evan Ingram and Zay

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Speaker 2: Jones and Travis etn And so you're like, Okay, this

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Speaker 2: new guy that's you know, going to be a star,

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Speaker 2: and he's getting a lot of attention, how's he going

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Speaker 2: to fit in? And after the first couple of days.

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Speaker 2: I said, he's going to fit in just fine because

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Speaker 2: he's got just as good of a work ethic as

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Speaker 2: everybody else, and he works his tailoff and you could

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Speaker 2: tell that Trevor and the rest of the group.

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Speaker 4: Appreciate that and they use it as motivation.

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Speaker 5: I think, like if you have someone that tal to

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Speaker 5: come in, some people could be you know, necessarily jealous,

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Speaker 5: but just kind of like, am I going to get

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Speaker 5: the same amount of balls through on my way?

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Speaker 4: Like where is my role changing?

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Speaker 5: And it feels like they've all really adapted quite well

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Speaker 5: to this is going to make us better. Him getting

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Speaker 5: double team is going to help me, like personally, and

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Speaker 5: then also what they do and just working on their

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Speaker 5: own craft. No one's like slacking or worried or trying

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Speaker 5: to find a way out. They're definitely all buying in.

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Speaker 5: Even talked to Evan Ingram last week I think it was,

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Speaker 5: and he was talking about this is the first time

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Speaker 5: he's intentionally building a relationship with a quarterback that he's

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Speaker 5: played with. He's played in New York before, but you know,

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Speaker 5: Eli's at the end. Daniel Jones's time was a little

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Speaker 5: bit different there and then this now that he knows

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Speaker 5: he's going to be here, not that he wasn't doing

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Speaker 5: it last season, but you know, all through the off

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Speaker 5: season they work out, Whichrevor all through the office, and

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Speaker 5: they go they play. You know, they're practicing by themselves

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Speaker 5: as not just mandatory mini camp and all that stuff.

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Speaker 4: They're working on this year round.

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Speaker 2: I happened to catch the last episode of The Hunt

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Speaker 2: and I caught Evan's comment, or actually I should say

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Speaker 2: it was Trevor's comment, because he said he was asked

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Speaker 2: the question, when did you find out about Evan Ingram's extension?

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Speaker 2: And he goes, well, I was actually with Evan when

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Speaker 2: that happened. And I'm sitting there going say, it's perfect.

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Speaker 2: I mean, those guys are working on the relationship, they're

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Speaker 2: working the game. They were in Arizona, I believe, yep,

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Speaker 2: As the Jaguars. The last two days practiced against the

641
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Speaker 2: Detroit Lions. Now day tomorrow to themselves for the Jags,

642
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Speaker 2: and then it's Saturday. It's preseason week two. It's a

643
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 2: one o'clock kickoff time at Ford Field, downtown Detroit. With

644
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 2: all this work in the last two days of practice,

645
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 2: it feels like those might be the bulk of the

646
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 2: reps for the starting Jaguars. You might see a couple

647
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 2: spots kai in the game. Maybe the right tackle get

648
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 2: some time. Walker Little hasn't had a lot of time

649
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:03,960
Speaker 2: in his career. Maybe he gets a little bit at left,

650
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 2: a few spots on defense here or there. They've got

651
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 2: to see some depth on this team still, and this

652
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 2: is the time to do it. Next week could be

653
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 2: the dress rehearsal, last chance out, So who do you

654
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 2: want to see? Maybe deeper down stand out. This might

655
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 2: be one of their last chances to truly shine under

656
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 2: the lights kiny it.

657
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Speaker 5: Is and this is probably the game where if you're

658
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 5: on that bubble or you're not quite sure, you can

659
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:27,400
Speaker 5: really cement yourself. And for me, I think I look

660
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 5: at people that showed out.

661
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Speaker 4: In the first game. You know, if it's Gregory Junior.

662
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Speaker 5: Having a follow up game that's just as good, So

663
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Speaker 5: then it makes it an easy decision, right because if

664
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Speaker 5: he has a great preseason game one and then doesn't

665
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Speaker 5: do as well in preseason game two when he's playing

666
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Speaker 5: a lot, then it's like, well, is the first thing

667
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 5: what you're actually going to do in a game or

668
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 5: is it the second game. So I think that makes

669
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Speaker 5: it a little more difficult. I want to see that, Yes,

670
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Speaker 5: your Abdullah do as well, you know, yeah, follow up on.

671
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Speaker 4: A great first game.

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Speaker 5: And I know, Jeff, you're very complimentary of his just

673
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Speaker 5: natural abilities to pass rush. So if he can continue

674
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Speaker 5: to do that and grow, and that would be That's

675
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Speaker 5: what I'm hoping for, at least on d fence.

676
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Speaker 4: In terms of starters, put them in bubble wrap. I

677
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:03,240
Speaker 4: don't want to see him for a week, like a

678
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Speaker 4: couple of weeks like him next week, I don't.

679
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Speaker 5: I mean, I know they want to get out there,

680
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 5: and I know Trevor probably wants to play half or

681
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Speaker 5: whatever it is. I'm I'm all said, I know what

682
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:14,360
Speaker 5: they they are a bit, they're able to do, and

683
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Speaker 5: I'm just you know, and then a couple of injuries

684
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Speaker 5: yesterday or a couple of things flaring up, I'd rather

685
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Speaker 5: just play on the side.

686
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Speaker 4: Of caution for me. But I'm a little I'm a

687
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Speaker 4: little more cautious than most.

688
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Speaker 2: So Yeah, I mean, I.

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Speaker 4: Know you probably want them all play. I don't want

690
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Speaker 4: to know.

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Speaker 2: I don't want them all to play. I just want

692
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Speaker 2: them to at least kind of get that you got.

693
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Speaker 4: To work on the season. Yeah, I understand.

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Speaker 2: And uh, and look, I don't want to see him

695
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Speaker 2: for very long. No, but but it is football, and

696
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:42,400
Speaker 2: there's natural inherent risks. That's just the way it is.

697
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Speaker 2: So but uh, I like I like the idea of

698
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Speaker 2: having a three game preseason. The second game or the

699
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 2: second week of the preseason going somewhere to practice with somebody,

700
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Speaker 2: so then you can limit your exposure in that game

701
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Speaker 2: by not playing some of your starters in the game,

702
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 2: by getting them a lot of reps with practice, and

703
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 2: then the last game, hey, look it's time to get

704
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 2: our starters ready for the season, and then again going

705
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 2: back to the second game this week, This is when

706
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:13,200
Speaker 2: you need to evaluate your guys that you're going to

707
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:15,319
Speaker 2: be trying to figure out are they good enough to

708
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:17,400
Speaker 2: be on our roster, are they good enough to be

709
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 2: with the fifty three, or are they good enough to

710
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:22,759
Speaker 2: be on our sixteen man practice squad. This game is

711
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:26,880
Speaker 2: going to be, in some cases, the last opportunity for

712
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Speaker 2: some guys to show something to this coaching staff and

713
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 2: this personnel staff. Let's see it, let's see it under

714
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Speaker 2: the lights in the dome on Saturday. And there's lots

715
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Speaker 2: of positions, I mean, defensively, the cornerback position you've got

716
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 2: to take a strong look at. That's probably if you

717
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 2: look at all the positions across this football team, that's

718
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:49,880
Speaker 2: the number one position that the coaching staff and the

719
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 2: personnel staff are sitting there going somebody please step up,

720
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Speaker 2: Somebody show me, and not to where they make my

721
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:02,799
Speaker 2: decision easier, where you're clearly the best choice. Who are

722
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Speaker 2: some of those guys you mentioned Gregory Jr. Second year guy.

723
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Speaker 2: But there's a couple guys they drafted last year, a

724
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Speaker 2: couple of this year that could be in that mix

725
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 2: to maybe get one or two out of right. I mean,

726
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 2: here to the list, Deviad Wilson, who's an undrafted guy

727
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 2: from Central Florida, Eric Hallett who's a draft pick from Pittsburgh,

728
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Speaker 2: Gregory Junior, who, like Kay said, had a very strong

729
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 2: start calls fumble, recover, fumble, one on special teams, one

730
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:29,279
Speaker 2: on defense last week. Clay Brooks is going to have

731
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 2: to show something. But the one thing Clay Brooks has,

732
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:34,880
Speaker 2: Clay Brooks is hands down the best gunner on this

733
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 2: football team. Best the best gunner on this football team,

734
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Speaker 2: and that's a critical part of special teams. Tavon Campbell

735
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Speaker 2: another guy that's gonna have to show something in this game.

736
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 2: Caleb Hayes is kind of out on the outside looking

737
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:49,880
Speaker 2: in right now. Broswell had the diving interception in the

738
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:53,120
Speaker 2: Dallas game that was impressive. Montera Brown kind of an

739
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:56,279
Speaker 2: ass start against Dallas. He's got to show something. And

740
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Speaker 2: and Trey Herton and you know what you're gonna get,

741
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 2: Steady good Hackler physical, can play excellent zone, but at

742
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:06,920
Speaker 2: times if you can't put it this way. You couldn't

743
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 2: line Trey Herndett up against Christian Kirkin slot and play man. Okay,

744
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:14,920
Speaker 2: you couldn't do it. I mean, right now, that's the

745
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:18,279
Speaker 2: that's the question the Jaguars are trying to answer. Who

746
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:21,880
Speaker 2: can we line up to cover a Christian Kirk in

747
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 2: the slot when we go to Nickel? And right now

748
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:27,759
Speaker 2: they don't have a definitive answer. That's what they need

749
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 2: this preseason at that position. I don't know how many

750
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:33,759
Speaker 2: teams actually have that answer, though there's some teams that do.

751
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 2: The Philadelphia Eagles last year had the three best corners

752
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 2: in football, you know. I mean, that's one of the

753
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:40,880
Speaker 2: reasons why they went to the Super Bowl. You know,

754
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:43,920
Speaker 2: look at the Kansas City Chiefs. They struck gold on

755
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 2: some late round picks at the corner position, and they

756
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 2: were young, but they were playing well in the back end,

757
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:51,200
Speaker 2: and part of that was due because they had some

758
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:56,240
Speaker 2: guy by the name of Chris Jones upfront who was dominant. Okay, okay,

759
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:58,439
Speaker 2: So then the Jaguars are trying to find a little

760
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:01,880
Speaker 2: bit of answers in both play says Okay, that third position,

761
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:04,680
Speaker 2: uh Nickel. And then when I say third position, I'm

762
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 2: not singling out cornerback because the Jaguars are gonna have

763
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:10,799
Speaker 2: some options that playing safety at that position as well.

764
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 2: They did it last year with winger plug kicking down

765
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:15,440
Speaker 2: in there and playing that nickel or that dime at

766
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:18,840
Speaker 2: times and so uh. And then also the question about

767
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 2: past rush. Who is gonna be the four guys that

768
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:23,920
Speaker 2: are going to rush the passer when they get the

769
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 2: regular season? Right now? Ky, who give me four your

770
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:28,400
Speaker 2: favorite four guys right now? If you're gonna line up

771
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:31,279
Speaker 2: four guys to rush the pass or week one, give

772
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 2: me your four third and eight Jaguars defense on the field.

773
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:40,359
Speaker 4: You got guy Trayvon Josh. I don't know. I'm not sure.

774
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:41,920
Speaker 5: Devin Lloyd's been having great camp, but I don't know

775
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 5: if he's gonna straight bump the line.

776
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, you gotta give me four.

777
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:49,799
Speaker 5: The fourth one is to be named, I can't say

778
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:51,000
Speaker 5: for sure, and I'm sure.

779
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 2: Devin Lloyd, Devin layd okay, JP, give me your four

780
00:38:56,280 --> 00:39:02,240
Speaker 2: and four Trayvon Walker. I would probably put Roy Robertson

781
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 2: Harris out there, Okay, pass rush and yeah, it's tough.

782
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:10,879
Speaker 2: That fourth one's tough right now. It is really tough.

783
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:13,719
Speaker 2: It is. It's almost like, do you put Devon Hamilton

784
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:17,400
Speaker 2: out there like he's been one of your most consistent

785
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:20,239
Speaker 2: pass rushers in training camp gets great push. Last year

786
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 2: most successful pass rusher from the interior of the Jaguars

787
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:25,920
Speaker 2: defensive front, okay, and this year he has shown nothing

788
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:29,360
Speaker 2: but having success there as well. Roy Robertson Harris has

789
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:31,839
Speaker 2: also been pretty strong. He can. It's poor Devine. He's

790
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:35,759
Speaker 2: gonna play like every down on defense. And here's the

791
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:37,880
Speaker 2: part I think that's gonna be interesting. I mean, he's

792
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:39,800
Speaker 2: a three hundred and thirty five pound guy that you

793
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:43,880
Speaker 2: just paid a significant contract to. Okay, but most people

794
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 2: look at him as a first and second down guy.

795
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:48,960
Speaker 2: I don't look at him that way. I look at

796
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 2: him as a guy that can play on third down

797
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:53,360
Speaker 2: as well, because he's a big man that can push

798
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:55,840
Speaker 2: the pocket. And if I'm an edge rusher, gave me

799
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:58,080
Speaker 2: a big man that can push the pocket every time.

800
00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:00,920
Speaker 2: It makes my life easier as an edge rusher. So

801
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:03,880
Speaker 2: I like Devon Hamilton. On the inside. I like Devon,

802
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 2: I like Roy, and I also like the possibility of

803
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:09,279
Speaker 2: kicking Trayvon down into the middle. To give a guy

804
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Speaker 2: who's big, who's strong, who also has a little bit

805
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:15,319
Speaker 2: more athleticism than most of the defensive tackles and I'm

806
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 2: gonna stick with it now. I mean, fifty six has

807
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:20,760
Speaker 2: got some natural pass rushing abilities, sere Abdula you're talking

808
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:25,120
Speaker 2: about Yes, yeah, B fifty six to everybody, we're gonna

809
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 2: get in there. Yeah a little bit. I just kidd

810
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:28,879
Speaker 2: a little bit. How's jags A am going?

811
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Speaker 4: Kay, it's going great. We're getting our groop.

812
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:33,319
Speaker 5: We're on location for these two days and then we're

813
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 5: gonna be heading back and we do have some surprises

814
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 5: coming soon for the season, so it'll be fun, some

815
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Speaker 5: changes and new looks, all those.

816
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Speaker 4: Things, rises surprises. I know you're not up at that hour.

817
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:43,799
Speaker 4: I'm just kidding. You are up at that hour. You're

818
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:44,840
Speaker 4: just hanging out by yourself.

819
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:47,560
Speaker 5: JP comes into the studio in the morning and he's

820
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:49,440
Speaker 5: has his alone time for two hours and he's always

821
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Speaker 5: jamming out by the time I come in.

822
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:54,360
Speaker 2: That's exactly what happens. Actually, Hey, and you're gonna be

823
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 2: on the sidelines again.

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00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:58,359
Speaker 5: I am doing the radio broadcast tomorrow with my friend

825
00:40:58,400 --> 00:40:59,879
Speaker 5: over here, and it's been fun.

826
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:02,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's doing a great job. But it's been great

827
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:06,279
Speaker 2: because you know what, I love stories, and she tells stories.

828
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:08,279
Speaker 4: From that I love a story. I love to tell

829
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Speaker 4: a good story, so please tune in. We don't know

830
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:13,160
Speaker 4: who's playing yet, but we'll be there, Kay Stevens.

831
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Speaker 2: Will be there for sure. Thanks for coming downstairs here

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Speaker 2: at the Hotel for sure. Back in a moment. Plenty

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Speaker 2: Jags and the Lions coming up pre season Week two, Saturday,

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Speaker 2: now for the injury report, presented by Baptist Health and

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00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:08,360
Speaker 2: the Jacksonville Orthopedic Institute, the official sports medicine provider of

847
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 2: the Jacksonville Jaguars. A few names starting to add to

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Speaker 2: the list here. Dewan Smooth still in the active physically

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00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:18,320
Speaker 2: unable to perform list. He's off to the side getting

850
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 2: work and it could be into the season before we

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00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 2: even see him start to get closer and closer. Tyler Shatley,

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00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:28,840
Speaker 2: the Jaguars interior offensive lineman, still off to the side

853
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 2: after the aphib episode of about a week or so ago.

854
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 2: Now Koy Kronk off to the side again. Today. Anton

855
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:38,240
Speaker 2: Harrison had some one on one work, as we referenced

856
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 2: earlier logs the right tackle, but in teamwork did not

857
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:44,880
Speaker 2: get out there today and probably we'll probably see him

858
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 2: in the game on Saturday against the Lions. Ross mannisk

859
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:53,360
Speaker 2: still unavailable. Carson tinker is here. Was signed. He's snapping,

860
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 2: which is he's funny. Carson Tinkers. He's a super nice

861
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 2: guy and he's got ten years in the National Football League.

862
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 2: Last year he was with the Seattle Seahawks. Talked with

863
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:08,919
Speaker 2: him today for a good bit and and he knows

864
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 2: he's kind of towards the end, but he's had a

865
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:14,799
Speaker 2: very successful career as a long snapper that started in

866
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:19,480
Speaker 2: Jacksonville and also had a highly successful college career. We did.

867
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:22,360
Speaker 2: And so he's been he's been around the block. It

868
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 2: ain't over till it's over. And and when the phone

869
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:27,479
Speaker 2: stops ringing, it's over. And the phone hasn't stopped ringing

870
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 2: yet for Carson, and he's uh. He lives in Texas.

871
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 2: Him and his wife have one child, another one on

872
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:37,719
Speaker 2: the way, and you know, and he's in a good place.

873
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 2: He cay Ran. He was yesterday in practice and I'm

874
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:41,960
Speaker 2: sitting there, you know where we were at. We're in

875
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 2: the middle of the field and so we're in the

876
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:45,920
Speaker 2: middle of two fields so we can watch both sides,

877
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:49,799
Speaker 2: offense and defense work against the Detroit Lions. And I'm

878
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:51,440
Speaker 2: sitting there and else and I stand up and all

879
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 2: of a sudden, somebody waxed me in the stomach. And

880
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:56,759
Speaker 2: you know, I wish I would have seen it coming.

881
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 2: I would have tightened it up a little bit it

882
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 2: so wouldn't feel so soft, you know, But it was Taker.

883
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:03,919
Speaker 2: He's running by and he slaps me in the mid section.

884
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, man, come on, tank. But he's

885
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 2: a nice guy. And he's still a good long snapper.

886
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:13,960
Speaker 2: Long Snappers can have careers in the National Football League

887
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 2: eighteen years, nineteen years if they're good and they take

888
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 2: care of themselves. If you're really good at it, you

889
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:22,319
Speaker 2: don't notice it. If you're not so good at it,

890
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 2: you won't be doing it long because it'll cost your

891
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 2: team football games, those handful of snaps of game if

892
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:31,440
Speaker 2: you get them wrong. He goes along, But Carson was

893
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:33,360
Speaker 2: telling me this, he said, you know, he said, typically,

894
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:36,319
Speaker 2: you know, when you try to rank things as far

895
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 2: as okay, I'm a long snapper, and everything, you start

896
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 2: in stages, okay, like no pads beginning, that would be

897
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:46,360
Speaker 2: at the beginning, and then the next step okay, pads

898
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:48,880
Speaker 2: against your own team, and then okay, then you do

899
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 2: live with your own team. Okay. Then you go to

900
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:55,840
Speaker 2: this fourth step, and that's practicing against another team in pads,

901
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:58,520
Speaker 2: you know, and then after that it's a preseason game.

902
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:01,440
Speaker 2: He goes. Look, he goes, it's not easy having the

903
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 2: first step be full pads with a practice against another team.

904
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 2: He goes, I woke up this morning. He goes my

905
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 2: next door, my body store, and I was like, yeah,

906
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:13,080
Speaker 2: that's all right, you know the drill. It's a long

907
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:15,600
Speaker 2: way from playing co ed softball a few weeks ago

908
00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 2: to playing and now in practice and training camp. A

909
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:21,320
Speaker 2: few other names on the injury report, of course, Antonio Johnson,

910
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 2: rookie safety off to the side hamstring issue. Could be

911
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:29,280
Speaker 2: a little bit of time for him. Fatacasi week to week,

912
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:33,360
Speaker 2: We'll see if he's ready for week one. Josh Wells tackle.

913
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:37,080
Speaker 2: He was not available today and missed the end of

914
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 2: practice yesterday, so we'll see his status moving ahead. That

915
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 2: could be a little bit of time as well. Yeah,

916
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:44,719
Speaker 2: the one thing about Corey Kronk, I think he's gonna

917
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 2: be okay. He ended up getting some team reps at

918
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:52,720
Speaker 2: the latter part of practice today, so that was encouraging. Good. Good,

919
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:54,799
Speaker 2: Let's see him out there. There's a chance for him

920
00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:56,919
Speaker 2: this game coming up Saturday. Well, I mean the reason

921
00:45:56,920 --> 00:46:00,800
Speaker 2: I bring that up is offensive lineman, right, talking about

922
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 2: Anton Harrison with a shoulder, Josh Wells with like a

923
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 2: hip groin, and Shatley with the aphibs stuff. I mean,

924
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 2: so look, you just don't want to have anybody else

925
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 2: added to that offensive line injury list, not at all,

926
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:16,960
Speaker 2: certainly not Doug Peterson show is coming up. Head coach

927
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 2: Doug Peterson will join us week one ahead of the

928
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:23,560
Speaker 2: Jaguars Colts game up at Lucas Oil Stadium. That's a

929
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:25,839
Speaker 2: few weeks away from now. I will hear a little

930
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:28,880
Speaker 2: bit from Doug in the press conference. He spoke yesterday

931
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:32,320
Speaker 2: before practice, not today. We'll get some of those thoughts

932
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:34,520
Speaker 2: from the head coach coming up. We'll also here from

933
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:39,080
Speaker 2: Jamal Agnu, Jaguars wide receiver and kick returner back in

934
00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:42,239
Speaker 2: Detroit and hearing it from that other sideline. A lot

935
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 2: of the chippiness the last two days that Jamal has

936
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:48,560
Speaker 2: not instigated it, but he has been the recipient of

937
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:50,600
Speaker 2: some of that, and we'll get his thoughts on that

938
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 2: and the kick return game. This could be a change

939
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:56,040
Speaker 2: in the NFL this year. It's a one year trial

940
00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 2: for the fair catch on kickoffs. I don't think he's

941
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:01,560
Speaker 2: gonna be fair catch too often. If he had anything

942
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 2: to say about it, we'll see. It's a It's something

943
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:07,359
Speaker 2: we'll hear from Jamal about coming up. I'm interested. He's

944
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:10,400
Speaker 2: got a skill set that and it'll be interesting. I mean,

945
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:13,440
Speaker 2: like a lot of coaches that don't have a Jamal

946
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 2: Agnew are gonna tell their return guy go ahead and

947
00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:18,839
Speaker 2: just fair catch it. We'll take it on the twenty five.

948
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:22,800
Speaker 2: But when you have a guy like a Jamal Agnew

949
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:27,359
Speaker 2: who has multiple returns for touchdowns, including a field goal

950
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:30,960
Speaker 2: return for a touchdown, you're gonna give him every opportunity

951
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:33,239
Speaker 2: to create a big play and down the stretch. Last

952
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 2: year he created some great field position for the Jaguars

953
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:40,240
Speaker 2: football team. And now other teams will see that tape

954
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:43,400
Speaker 2: obviously and maybe strategize to pop it up and force

955
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:46,160
Speaker 2: a fair catcher, pen him in the corner or whatever

956
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:48,760
Speaker 2: that could be, and we'll see how the Jags adjust

957
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 2: from that. We're a little ahead of things. Look, when

958
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:55,040
Speaker 2: you have a guy that makes you start to change

959
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:57,919
Speaker 2: the way you do things, as you know the other

960
00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:00,720
Speaker 2: teams coming in I'm talking about, yes, and that means

961
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:03,920
Speaker 2: you're doing pretty good from the standpoint of your guy

962
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:07,400
Speaker 2: is really good, and that's making the other opponent do

963
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:10,799
Speaker 2: things differently than they want to do. Think about four

964
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:13,560
Speaker 2: years ago, this guy was a defensive back too, and now,

965
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:18,200
Speaker 2: which is crazy offense, Who in the world put him

966
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:20,399
Speaker 2: at defensive back? Going all the way back to pee

967
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 2: wee or high school or college whenever they pigeonholed him

968
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:26,400
Speaker 2: to the defensive side of the ball. With the skill

969
00:48:26,440 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 2: set that he has, I mean, he's got great open

970
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:32,759
Speaker 2: space ability. And then the NFL is a space game now,

971
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:36,319
Speaker 2: I mean, whoever made that decision or that call, Hey,

972
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:40,280
Speaker 2: you're going to be a defensive back, they should be fired. Really,

973
00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:42,840
Speaker 2: they're gonna go back and fire them from firom Okay

974
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:46,120
Speaker 2: fifteen years ago. Fire that's like putting Trevor Lawrence and

975
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:51,759
Speaker 2: having him play safety. What are you doing, Agnes? And

976
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:54,520
Speaker 2: he's an offensive weapon. He does he can do everything

977
00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:57,440
Speaker 2: he really can. He probably could play defensive back in

978
00:48:57,520 --> 00:49:00,080
Speaker 2: a pinch. Put him in motion. They can toss it

979
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:04,040
Speaker 2: to him, sweep him around, run regular wide receiver routes

980
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:06,719
Speaker 2: and everything that comes. When you talk to coordinators that

981
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:09,160
Speaker 2: and I know a bunch of them that come in

982
00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:13,160
Speaker 2: to play the Jaguars last year, they always talk about

983
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:18,080
Speaker 2: Jamal Agnew. They're the opposing the opponent. Special teams coordinators

984
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:22,520
Speaker 2: always talk about Jamal Agnew. When you're facing a guy

985
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:26,320
Speaker 2: that you know has the ability to score with one touch,

986
00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 2: he's a factor and you always have to adjust with

987
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:33,040
Speaker 2: a guy like that, And that's that's a great thing

988
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:35,759
Speaker 2: about Agnew and with all the other weapons on the

989
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:38,000
Speaker 2: field on offense, it open things up for him if

990
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:41,040
Speaker 2: you're covering him. It opened things up for other guys

991
00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:42,920
Speaker 2: on this offense. A lot to look forward to on

992
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:46,920
Speaker 2: the offensive side of the foot, a plethora of weapons. Indeed,

993
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:50,400
Speaker 2: we're back in a moment the Doug Peterson Show coming

994
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:52,880
Speaker 2: up next on the network will Here are a couple

995
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:55,719
Speaker 2: of thoughts from Echoes. Doug Peterson in his press conference

996
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:59,040
Speaker 2: yesterday before practice the Jaguars and Lions is wrapped up

997
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:02,799
Speaker 2: two days of went practices in Allen Park, Michigan. Uh,

998
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:05,160
Speaker 2: we're back in a moment with the Doug Peterson Show.

999
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:11,200
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