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Speaker 1: let's let's talk to some football, Okay. I was I

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Speaker 1: remember back when the CBA passed and we had we

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Speaker 1: For being introduced as this is Ronnie Lot, three time

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Speaker 1: probably not even Bengal fans beside like Ocho Cinco, who

426
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Speaker 1: actually went on record and said that you thought they

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Speaker 1: would be here. I think I thought they would be here.

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Speaker 1: But it's hard for me to envision the Bengals winning

429
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Speaker 1: this game. But nobody would take Joe Ryan Tannehill over

430
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Speaker 1: Joe Burrow, so they have the quarterback advantage. Uh. Jamar

431
00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:46,200
Speaker 1: Chase has been an unstoppable force. Now do you trust

432
00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:49,280
Speaker 1: the offensive line Zach Taylor? You know, I just we

433
00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:52,600
Speaker 1: don't know that much about him. Uh. Pretty impressive last week.

434
00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:55,600
Speaker 1: I mean they dominated that game. Now they're better than

435
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Speaker 1: the Raiders. I mean they had already beat them earlier

436
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Speaker 1: in the season. But I don't know. I'm taking the Titans.

437
00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:04,960
Speaker 1: I don't feel great about it. Uh, but this is

438
00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:07,119
Speaker 1: a game for a game that easily is the least

439
00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:09,920
Speaker 1: juicy of the weekend, this is is a pretty good game.

440
00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:13,200
Speaker 1: And then the Niners Packers. Uh, I think the number

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Speaker 1: one story just Nick Bosa play because Nick Bosa was

442
00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:19,280
Speaker 1: I watched the Week three game. That game was much. Obviously,

443
00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:21,480
Speaker 1: the final scores thirty to twenty eight, but the Packers

444
00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:25,640
Speaker 1: were up seventeen nothing. Uh. The Packers, you know, took

445
00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:28,639
Speaker 1: advantage of some major question marks in the Niner secondary.

446
00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:31,040
Speaker 1: You know, there's a beautiful night in San Francis or

447
00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:34,600
Speaker 1: Levi Stadiums in Santa Clara, and Rogers, you know, chucked

448
00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:37,160
Speaker 1: it around and Davante Adams dominated the game. I think

449
00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:39,119
Speaker 1: he had like twelve or one thirty and a touchdown

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Speaker 1: He had like basically the game winning catch on the

451
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Speaker 1: final drive when they didn't have any time outs. All

452
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Speaker 1: the pressures on the Packers though, and one thing the

453
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Speaker 1: Niners did last week is they showed up in Dallas

454
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Speaker 1: with the mindset, we're gonna kick the ship out of you,

455
00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:54,040
Speaker 1: and they ran it right down their throat and they

456
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Speaker 1: set the tone early. Now, the Packers to me are

457
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Speaker 1: much more mentally tough than uh than the day his Cowboys.

458
00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:02,800
Speaker 1: I was listening to Cowards podcast. He did what Dave

459
00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:05,439
Speaker 1: Wants did, and Dave Wants did. I love it. He

460
00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:08,159
Speaker 1: was just shipping on Kingsbury and he was just talking

461
00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:10,840
Speaker 1: about the urgency in that building like they had kind

462
00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:13,359
Speaker 1: of been on cruise control and He's like. One thing

463
00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:16,320
Speaker 1: Jimmy Johnson used to do was just he'd create chaos.

464
00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:21,359
Speaker 1: Sometimes you gotta create a crisis calling you know what

465
00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:23,960
Speaker 1: I mean. Things are just good, but we gotta go

466
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Speaker 1: in there and create a crisis. I gotta throw somebody

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Speaker 1: out of a meeting because he's not taking notes or

468
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Speaker 1: paying attention, or throw somebody off the practice field because

469
00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:35,000
Speaker 1: he jumped offsides twice. You gotta do something to get

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Speaker 1: everybody's attention. Did Jimmy do that when your team have? Oh? God,

471
00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:43,159
Speaker 1: he was he was a he was out of his mind.

472
00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:45,160
Speaker 1: He'd said, let's go get a beer after the game.

473
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Speaker 1: He just screamed at the team for ten minutes. I said,

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Speaker 1: I got a headache. I'm going home, whiskey. I'll see

475
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Speaker 1: you tomorrow morning about six or five or whatever time

476
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Speaker 1: you want to get together. I think most of the teams,

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Speaker 1: and definitely these two teams, like you don't need to

478
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Speaker 1: do that. You don't need to create chaos with the

479
00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:07,720
Speaker 1: Niners and Packers like Davante Adams Jr. Alexander Kenny Clark,

480
00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:10,399
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, like these guys know you know, George Kittle,

481
00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:16,959
Speaker 1: Trent Williams, like these are mature winners. But I just

482
00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:19,640
Speaker 1: wonder when you get down at home, it can throw

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Speaker 1: you off. Now. I think the Packers are infinitely more

484
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Speaker 1: mentally tough, and they've been in the playoffs way more

485
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Speaker 1: than the Cowboys. But anytime you get down at home

486
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Speaker 1: in you know, in football, every game is the game seven.

487
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Speaker 1: I've seen it in baseball. I've been to these big

488
00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:36,280
Speaker 1: warrior games. When you're down at home in an elimination game,

489
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:38,879
Speaker 1: people get tight. You feel in the stands, and when

490
00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:40,800
Speaker 1: you feel in the stands, the players feel it too.

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Speaker 1: So to me, if the Niners are gonna win this game,

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Speaker 1: they gotta get up early. Like I don't see them

493
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Speaker 1: coming back from like ten nothing. Especially, you know, they

494
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Speaker 1: they've been basically road warriors for the last three or

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Speaker 1: four weeks. You know, the Titans game, the Rams game,

496
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Speaker 1: and the the Cowboys game. The Packers have kind of been

497
00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:56,280
Speaker 1: in cruise control. Now that can work against you and

498
00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:58,200
Speaker 1: it can work for you. They basically had a bye

499
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Speaker 1: week week a team. They didn't play their guys, especially

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Speaker 1: the second half. The Lions beat him last week. They

501
00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:05,760
Speaker 1: didn't have to do anything. They had to buy and uh,

502
00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:07,840
Speaker 1: the Niners are coming out a short week. They're they're

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Speaker 1: enormous favorites. The biggest line of the week at six.

504
00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:12,880
Speaker 1: I think the next biggest lines like three and a half,

505
00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:14,440
Speaker 1: so it shows you were talking too and a half

506
00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:18,200
Speaker 1: point spread bigger than any other game this weekend. Uh.

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Speaker 1: If Rogers is swinging it and he's on, the Packers

508
00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:24,440
Speaker 1: are gonna win. They have a massive advantage at quarterback

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers and Jimmy G. And listen, I I Jimmy

510
00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:31,080
Speaker 1: G has earned my respect the last several weeks, but

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Speaker 1: they're on Rogers worst day. He's basically Jimmy G on

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Speaker 1: his worst day. On his best day, Jimmy G couldn't

513
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Speaker 1: dream of doing what Aaron Rodgers does. Now, we'll see

514
00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:42,879
Speaker 1: what the weather. I went back and I watched the

515
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Speaker 1: two thousand thirteen playoff game wild Card weekend. I guess

516
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Speaker 1: it would have been basically January of two thou fourteen,

517
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Speaker 1: but that that field wasn't terrible shape. It was freezing

518
00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:57,880
Speaker 1: cold and it's just hard to score in that situation. Now,

519
00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:00,880
Speaker 1: Rodgers was way younger, but that team, you know, those

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00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:04,919
Speaker 1: two thousand and eleven two ten Packer teams were really good.

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Speaker 1: So to me, the weather is going to play a factor,

522
00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:09,480
Speaker 1: and the worst the weather is, to me, the more

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Speaker 1: that benefits the Niners because the more they don't have

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Speaker 1: to rely on Jimmy t they get to just play

525
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Speaker 1: defense and run the ball. I have some money on

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Speaker 1: the Niners now it's more probably a little bias there,

527
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Speaker 1: but I I do think I've come around this week

528
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:24,879
Speaker 1: when the week started like the Niners have no shot.

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Speaker 1: I think they can win this game. Now, I still,

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Speaker 1: you know, the Packers if they win this, I still

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Speaker 1: kind of like them to win the super Bowl. But

532
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Speaker 1: we'll see. Man that that Lambeau gets very, very difficult

533
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Speaker 1: when your best player is your star quarterback. We've seen

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Speaker 1: it time and time again now that that they are

535
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Speaker 1: not able to just score thirty five points like they're

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Speaker 1: able to do in October and November. And the other

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Speaker 1: thing is like you don't get to play the Lions

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Speaker 1: and the Bears come come January. So this this game,

539
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Speaker 1: you talk the Packers, Niners or the Niners. Cowboys did

540
00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:57,919
Speaker 1: forty million people, I'd expect another enormous audience. Bucks Rams,

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Speaker 1: I think it's the Ramsty time. I think the Bucks

542
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:03,120
Speaker 1: are kind of running out of juice. They just had

543
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 1: so many injuries, you lose your star right tackle that

544
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:09,119
Speaker 1: that's gonna be very, very difficult to overcome. Uh, Tristan

545
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:12,040
Speaker 1: worfs as a star. And the Rams like, I think

546
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 1: von Miller's looked pretty good in the the last three weeks.

547
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:15,760
Speaker 1: You know, they kind of keep him on a pitch count.

548
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:17,919
Speaker 1: He's been he's pressuring the quarterback. I think he has

549
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:21,840
Speaker 1: a sack back to back weeks. Aaron Donald, I love

550
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:24,320
Speaker 1: with the Rams. I have a lot of respect for

551
00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:26,960
Speaker 1: the Rams. Last weekend. They showed up in that game

552
00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:29,480
Speaker 1: and they basically looked at the Arizona Cardinals and they say,

553
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:31,720
Speaker 1: you don't belong on the same field with us. And

554
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:34,960
Speaker 1: what want said was talking about creating chaos. Aaron Donald

555
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,439
Speaker 1: was trying to fight people up twenty eight nothing. That

556
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:40,560
Speaker 1: was their mentality. Their mentality was like, we're trying to

557
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:42,679
Speaker 1: win the next three games. Our goal is to get

558
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:44,359
Speaker 1: to the super Bowl. The Cardinals are like, we're just

559
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 1: happy to be here. Look at our coach, he calls

560
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:48,879
Speaker 1: these fun plays, Look at our little quarterback. And the

561
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:51,160
Speaker 1: Rams are like, We're gonna kick the living ship out

562
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:53,960
Speaker 1: of you. And I do think the Rams can build

563
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 1: off that. My number one question with them is Stafford

564
00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:59,399
Speaker 1: and can he not turn over the ball? He's like

565
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:02,600
Speaker 1: the much the better version of Jimmy g But goddamn,

566
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:04,239
Speaker 1: they both turned the ball over a lot. And if

567
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 1: he fumbles, he throws pick six. Is if he plays

568
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:09,240
Speaker 1: like Arizona and he controls the ball, the Rams win

569
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 1: this game. I believe it, and listen. I'm not in

570
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 1: the business of betting against Brady, but I do think

571
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:16,160
Speaker 1: you get to the point of law of diminishing returns,

572
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 1: like you can't keep losing star players and just keep

573
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,879
Speaker 1: rolling like Leonard four nett I made fun of him

574
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:23,679
Speaker 1: for a long period of time and the playoffs, like

575
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:26,200
Speaker 1: Leonard fourn it's really good. Like not having him around

576
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:28,480
Speaker 1: is a big deal. Not having Chris god Went around

577
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 1: is a big deal. Say what you want about crazy

578
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 1: Antonio Brown. Look at his stats last year, especially in

579
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:36,160
Speaker 1: the playoffs, like he was very, very productive for them.

580
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:38,240
Speaker 1: They have just lost a lot of the key guys

581
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 1: and it's it's just difficult. He still is an elite

582
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 1: player still. You you know, if you voted for him

583
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Speaker 1: for the m v P, I probably wouldn't argue, even

584
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,959
Speaker 1: though I disagree with you. But I just four year

585
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 1: old can just carry you against these really good teams.

586
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Speaker 1: Him and I mean Gronk still that Gronk actually looks

587
00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 1: pretty good. Obviously. The to me, the Bucks coaching staff

588
00:28:59,920 --> 00:29:03,560
Speaker 1: is really good. This matchup of Sean mcveabor's Todd Bowles,

589
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:06,640
Speaker 1: that's that's an elite matchup. That's that's about as good

590
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 1: as it gets. Uh. But I like I like the

591
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 1: Rams to win. I like a money line. I I

592
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:14,240
Speaker 1: have some serious cash on this game. And then the

593
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:17,720
Speaker 1: Bill's Chiefs. This is just just a football game. I mean,

594
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 1: you have when I when I first got hired in Philly,

595
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 1: Sean McDermott was our defensive coordinator and you get to

596
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:24,480
Speaker 1: know him and you get to know the story. He

597
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:28,960
Speaker 1: started his career as Andy Reid's assistant and that position.

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00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:32,120
Speaker 1: People that have started at that spot have been guys

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00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 1: like Brett Veach who's now the general manager for the

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00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:41,520
Speaker 1: Kansas Chiefs, Matt Naggy, obviously Sean McDermott, so he You know,

601
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 1: we're talking a lot this week about you know, Shanahan

602
00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:47,240
Speaker 1: and the floor and the connection. I don't think and

603
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:49,080
Speaker 1: maybe you are in Bills and Chiefs Land, but I

604
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 1: don't see it naturally. The connection of Sean McDermott, Andy Reid,

605
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:55,240
Speaker 1: who started this guy's career, built him up. You know,

606
00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:58,680
Speaker 1: studied under Jim Johnson. These guys have connections going back

607
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:02,760
Speaker 1: almost twenty years. Uh Sean is Sean has turned into

608
00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 1: an elite coach. He is a baller. I think the

609
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 1: one thing for the Bills though, and we'll talk about

610
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 1: Brian Dable here in a second, is this. You know,

611
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 1: this is probably your last game or two with Brian Dable,

612
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:17,640
Speaker 1: and he has been a very very important piece of

613
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:20,360
Speaker 1: your team and building. Josh Allen. Now, maybe Josh Allen's

614
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 1: at the point where whoever their next coordinator is, he's

615
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:25,800
Speaker 1: so good it'll just keep on rolling. Maybe it won't.

616
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 1: Time will tell, But this is, you know, kind of

617
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:32,000
Speaker 1: the mentor versus the mentee. You know, one guy's a

618
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,479
Speaker 1: defensive guy, one guy is an offensive guy. But just

619
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Speaker 1: you know, the culture, the way they you know, the

620
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:39,800
Speaker 1: type guys that they like. I think the Bills have

621
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:42,800
Speaker 1: a lot of parallels to the Chiefs. I saw Mitch Morris,

622
00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:45,760
Speaker 1: the center for the Bills, talking about a lot of

623
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Speaker 1: the parallels of Patrick Mahomes and Josh Allen, and one

624
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,640
Speaker 1: thing he said, one consistent theme with both guys is

625
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 1: just how approachable they are, And I think that's an

626
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 1: underrated part about being a star quarterback is like you're

627
00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:00,240
Speaker 1: put on this pedestal, you make all this money, but

628
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 1: can you still just be one of the guys? Can

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Speaker 1: you still just hang out with like the right guard

630
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 1: and the backup special teams guy and have you know

631
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 1: a couple of corpse lights and eat a cheeseburger. You know,

632
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 1: Tom Brady is able to do that, even though he's

633
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 1: the ultimate guy in the pedestal, still feels very normal

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00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 1: as this all time great teammates. So I don't I

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00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 1: guess I would take the Chiefs just because they're at home.

636
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 1: But I think either one of these two teams, whoever

637
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Speaker 1: wins this game, could easily win the Super Bowl. And

638
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,040
Speaker 1: I think has a you know, whoever wins this game

639
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 1: is gonna be favored in the FC Championship Game. But

640
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 1: this is just two star young quarterbacks, two staples of

641
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 1: the NFL, probably for the next decade. I think the

642
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 1: NFL should be proud that these two guys, Josh Allen

643
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 1: and Patrick Mahomes represent the sport, the character of the

644
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 1: two guys, the way they act the way they play.

645
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:50,480
Speaker 1: To me, they're the total package and everything a GM wants.

646
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 1: When you when you pick a player, especially a quarterback,

647
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 1: is you want them to be everything you want them

648
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:58,959
Speaker 1: to be on the field, a great player off the field.

649
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 1: You want to be able to say, I want that

650
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 1: guy to date my daughter. I I trust that guy

651
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 1: to watch my home. I trust that guy to put

652
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 1: all of our mortgages basically on his back. I trust

653
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 1: that guy to endure himself to all his teammates. I

654
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 1: trust this guy to be the face of not just

655
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 1: the franchise, but of my city. And I think both

656
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:23,720
Speaker 1: these guys have done an remarkable job as as a

657
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 1: as any guy who can speak you know when you're twenty,

658
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 1: I can't imagine, you know, I say it all the time.

659
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 1: I'm mature a lot in my thirties. I I can't

660
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 1: imagine having that much pressure, being forced to be that mature,

661
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 1: you know at that age. And both these guys it

662
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 1: speaks to their parents, their upbringing, how coachable they are.

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00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:45,480
Speaker 1: They also benefit a lot that knowing the two guys

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Speaker 1: of being around Sean McDermott Nandy Reid, now I think

665
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:51,240
Speaker 1: they would have been They would have been good people regardless.

666
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 1: But you see, like Trevor Lawrence, you get around Urban Meyer,

667
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 1: you know, the building burns down you get around these

668
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 1: two guys. Uh, you know, it's it's it's been awesome

669
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 1: to watch. So I guess I would take the Chiefs,

670
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 1: but I'm just gonna be a fan, kick my feet up,

671
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 1: eat some food, and and and just hope we get

672
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:12,760
Speaker 1: an incredible game and really quick. On the coaching carousel,

673
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:16,040
Speaker 1: you're seeing a lot of general manager names, uh, you know,

674
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:21,680
Speaker 1: floating around people interviewing. I can't pretend to know half.

675
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:23,720
Speaker 1: You know, I don't know these guys. I don't know

676
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 1: how good their work is. That's a hard part about

677
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 1: gms with coaches, like when Brian day Ball or Kellen

678
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 1: Moore or Byron Leftwich, like we see their work Like

679
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 1: I see Byron Leftwich call in plays, I see Kellen

680
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:38,000
Speaker 1: Moore colin plays. I've seen Byron or Brian day Ball

681
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 1: coach up and improve Josh Allen. His resume speaks for itself.

682
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 1: I actually think Brian day Ball is the best coordinator

683
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 1: by a mile on the market. He's been a coordinator

684
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:53,160
Speaker 1: at several different spots. He's failed, he's worked for Belichick

685
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:55,720
Speaker 1: and he's worked for saving but then he went with

686
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 1: Sean McDermott with a major project. Sean McDermott coaches the

687
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 1: defense up side of the ball. I know he's the

688
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 1: head coach, but that's his background. So the offense is

689
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 1: Brian day Ball's baby, and we have seen it now

690
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:10,800
Speaker 1: for several years be as explosive as any in the league.

691
00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 1: And what he's done with Josh Allen is as good

692
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:15,920
Speaker 1: of a coaching job in a four year span, I

693
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:18,799
Speaker 1: think as we've ever seen in NFL history. So to me,

694
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,120
Speaker 1: if Brian, if you're looking for a coordinator, now, if

695
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:23,880
Speaker 1: you want a guy with experience, I get the Todd Bowles,

696
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:28,319
Speaker 1: the Leslie Frasier's the uh you know, Band Quinn. I

697
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:30,319
Speaker 1: I get that, you know a guy that has been

698
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 1: there and done that. But if you're looking for a coordinator,

699
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:36,600
Speaker 1: I don't even think there's a close second. I Kellen

700
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 1: Moore no left, which is impressive. I would definitely interview him.

701
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 1: But to me, Brian day Ball should be the number

702
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 1: one coaching coordinator on the market, and I think I

703
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:49,719
Speaker 1: think he is. I think he is a lock to

704
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:53,399
Speaker 1: be offered several jobs he's gonna have his pick at

705
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:56,400
Speaker 1: the litter. And the one general manager candidate that I

706
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:58,480
Speaker 1: can speak of. I've known this guy since I was

707
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 1: a graduate assistant Frizzle Stay when he worked for the Patriots.

708
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:05,719
Speaker 1: Adam Peters, who played football at u c l A,

709
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:07,719
Speaker 1: and I knew I had heard about him because my

710
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:09,840
Speaker 1: cousin had played football at u c l A and

711
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:11,719
Speaker 1: they had played together. Now, the U c l A

712
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:13,799
Speaker 1: that you know now, the Pact twelve that sucks in

713
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 1: this U c l A teams that aren't very good.

714
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 1: In the late nineties, when Adam Peters went there, they

715
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:22,920
Speaker 1: were going to Rose Bowls. They were full of NFL players,

716
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 1: they were a real top fifteen ish program. They were

717
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:29,719
Speaker 1: a big boy like. They were producing guys to the

718
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 1: National Football League. And then from u c l A,

719
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:35,759
Speaker 1: Adam Peters gets hired by this guy named Bill Belichick,

720
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 1: and he is part of multiple Super Bowls with Bill

721
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 1: Belichick in the two thousands. So he sees what like

722
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:48,560
Speaker 1: on the ground floor, Brady Belichick, Rabel Bruski, all those guys,

723
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:52,440
Speaker 1: seeing the building of that dynasty. Then he goes to

724
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Speaker 1: the Denver Broncos where John Elway comes in. They signed

725
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Speaker 1: Peyton Manning. So he goes to multiple Super Bowls and

726
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:01,880
Speaker 1: wins him as you know, as he was an in

727
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:03,840
Speaker 1: house guy and then he became a West Coast scout.

728
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:06,799
Speaker 1: Then he goes to the Denver Broncos at a higher level.

729
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 1: I think he was like the college director and you know,

730
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 1: he just had an executive position and Elway comes in

731
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:16,399
Speaker 1: they signed Peyton Manning. He sees that firsthand. He's part

732
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:18,759
Speaker 1: of a team that wins the division every year and

733
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 1: goes to multiple Super Bowls and ultimately wins one and

734
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 1: plays a massive role on that team. When he got

735
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 1: hired by the forty Niners, C J. Anderson tweeted out,

736
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:30,760
Speaker 1: I would not have been in on the Denver Broncos

737
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 1: and the starting running back if it wasn't for Adam Peters.

738
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 1: Like Adam Peters is big time. So he's been in

739
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:39,360
Speaker 1: a successful place with New England. Then he went to Denver,

740
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 1: also successful. Then he goes because John Lynch boys with

741
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:45,719
Speaker 1: Elway and John Lynch, who I don't know if you

742
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 1: know this, but he had said when he got hired

743
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:49,840
Speaker 1: that he had been thinking about being a GM and

744
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:52,320
Speaker 1: he lay used to let him go to draft meetings

745
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 1: and in those draft meetings he sat next to Adam

746
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 1: Peters and he realized, holy shit, this guy's a shooting star.

747
00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 1: So he hires Adam Peters basically as his right hand man.

748
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 1: When Kyle Shanahan becomes the head coach of the forty Niners,

749
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 1: which unlike New England and even Denver, is a complete

750
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 1: tear down. I mean it was, I say it all

751
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:10,439
Speaker 1: the time. What the New York Giants are right now.

752
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 1: The San Fransco forty Niners were post Balky and Chip

753
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:16,399
Speaker 1: Kelly and Tom Seula. It was a joke. So they

754
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 1: built the fucking thing from scratch. Three years later there

755
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:21,279
Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl. So he's been part of New

756
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 1: England Super Bowl, Denver super Bowl, and then he gets

757
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 1: to a Super Bowl with a third team. So I

758
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 1: can't speak to Polls with the Chiefs, I can't speak

759
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:31,759
Speaker 1: to the younger guy, the Bills assistant GM. All these

760
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:34,880
Speaker 1: guys seem like impressive guys, And some of my chief's

761
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 1: guys said, poll is an impressive guy. The Bills guy

762
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 1: reading the article about him seems like he's impressive guy too.

763
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:43,360
Speaker 1: I just can speak from experience, no one at him

764
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 1: and just watching his career, Like he's been to five

765
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:51,720
Speaker 1: Super Bowls with three different teams. He's been around John Elway,

766
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 1: Peyton Manning, Bill Belichick, Tom Brady, Kyle Shanahan, and this

767
00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 1: forty Niners operation. I can't imagine there is a gener

768
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:03,920
Speaker 1: manager candidate who's under forty five that has more experience.

769
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 1: Some of the Belichick guys, you would say, but they've

770
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 1: only been in one place. This guy is a little

771
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:11,359
Speaker 1: seen this and that, and like you're talking about Hall

772
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 1: of famers all over the place, hall of famers literally everywhere.

773
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:17,399
Speaker 1: He's at a front row seat and played a big role.

774
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 1: So I see the giants. He's in the mix. I

775
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:22,799
Speaker 1: don't want to lose him. Like I like him out here.

776
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:25,279
Speaker 1: I like him part of the forty niners. But there

777
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 1: can't be a more qualified candidate there, literally can't. I

778
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:31,360
Speaker 1: don't know what else he could have done. He's seen

779
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 1: it all, he has seen it all. He is more

780
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 1: qualified than the guys he's interviewing against it just it

781
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:40,359
Speaker 1: just speaks for itself, it really does. He to me,

782
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:43,640
Speaker 1: is the most qualified candidate of all these you know,

783
00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 1: younger guys. Right now, if you wanted to hire former

784
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:48,719
Speaker 1: GM or whatever, I get it. But if you're going

785
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 1: to hire one of these younger guys and sure feels

786
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 1: like the New York Giants, those are the people they're interviewing.

787
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:55,799
Speaker 1: To me, Adam Peters, I mean, just just look at

788
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:58,400
Speaker 1: his resume. Talk to him. It doesn't get any more impressive.

789
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 1: And then, last, but not least, Marba. I've gotten conflicting,

790
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 1: you know, reports on whether he's gonna come, whether he's

791
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:09,360
Speaker 1: not gonna come. I don't know. I hope he comes

792
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 1: for entertainment purposes, though I do like him at Michigan

793
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:15,759
Speaker 1: just as a fan of college football. Uh. I've been

794
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 1: told that he's doing this as kind of an f

795
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 1: you to Michigan to be like time to pay me.

796
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 1: I've also been told this is serious. He wants the

797
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:26,319
Speaker 1: Raider's job. I don't know what to believe, honestly, but

798
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:29,400
Speaker 1: I also was told within the last twenty four hours.

799
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 1: One thing that bothered Mark Davis during the Gruden era

800
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 1: was that John Gruden was bigger than the team. And

801
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:39,279
Speaker 1: that was a fact. John Gruden had more advertisements on

802
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 1: television than any Raider player. Hell, he had more ads

803
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:45,239
Speaker 1: on TV when he was a head coach. Then, like

804
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 1: most guys, beside Patrick Mahomes and like Steph Curry and

805
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:51,319
Speaker 1: Tom Brady, like John bruten was more famous than he

806
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 1: was a head coach. Now there is some element of

807
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:57,239
Speaker 1: that with Jim Harbaugh, like he's his own rock star

808
00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:00,759
Speaker 1: in a vacuum, really famous guy. I at it. But

809
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 1: unlike Gruden, this guy wins literally everywhere. So if Jim

810
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:09,280
Speaker 1: Harbaugh would accept my job, if I'm Mark Davis, I'd

811
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:13,400
Speaker 1: have to hire him because it would guarantee. It's literally

812
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:17,279
Speaker 1: a guarantee that you will win football games. And the

813
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:19,960
Speaker 1: one thing the Raiders have not been able to guarantee

814
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:22,840
Speaker 1: over the last twenty years and definitely over the decade

815
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:25,120
Speaker 1: that Mark Davis has owned the team, that they are

816
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:28,600
Speaker 1: gonna win football games. They are an outlier when they win.

817
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 1: This year felt like an outlier for the Raiders. They

818
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:33,759
Speaker 1: made the playoffs. They've done that twice in nineteen years.

819
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 1: You get Jim hardball, look at his resume. You are

820
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 1: guaranteed to go to the playoffs. It's an absolute, blood bank,

821
00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:45,360
Speaker 1: cold heart guarantee. So to me, I get it. I

822
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:48,719
Speaker 1: understand he brings a lot of just he's just such

823
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:50,759
Speaker 1: a But here's the other thing. Jim Harball brings. I

824
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 1: bet he brings Vic Fangio as your defensive coordinator. Brady

825
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:56,960
Speaker 1: brings an incredible coaching staff. I bet he brings the

826
00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:59,839
Speaker 1: ability to keep Derek Carr rocking and rolling, because that's

827
00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:02,359
Speaker 1: what I saw to do it with Alex Smith hell

828
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:04,279
Speaker 1: even at Michigan. Like he doesn't have the players Ohio

829
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 1: State has as part of the argument, like why can't

830
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 1: he beat Ohio State, Well, they have better players, not

831
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:10,760
Speaker 1: even arguable. For the first time this year it felt

832
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 1: like they were somewhat equals in Michigan beat him, Like

833
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 1: I would know this, Like Ryan, you know the hardball

834
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 1: part of it is Ohio State Michigan. They talked about

835
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 1: each other. I trust Jim Harbaugh starting from scratch much

836
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:23,880
Speaker 1: more than Ryan Day, Like there is some truth to

837
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:25,839
Speaker 1: what he said, Like Ryan Day did land on third

838
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:28,479
Speaker 1: a little bit. He inherited Ohio State from Urban Meyer.

839
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:30,839
Speaker 1: We'll see now, listen. I think Ryan Day has done

840
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:33,760
Speaker 1: a good job signing all these quarterbacks and wide receivers,

841
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:37,440
Speaker 1: but his defense blows in. Ohio State, in my life,

842
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 1: has been an elite defensive team in the two thousands

843
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 1: and under Urban Meyer, they dominated like an SEC team.

844
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:46,879
Speaker 1: On the defensive side of the ball. Under Ryan Day,

845
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 1: who's an offensive guy who taught him Chip Kelly, defense

846
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:54,040
Speaker 1: hasn't mattered. With Jim Harbaugh, defense always matters because he

847
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 1: cares about defense. He cares about physicality. So to me,

848
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Speaker 1: if I'm the Raiders, I don't know if he's up

849
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Speaker 1: the job or not. I know there are reports that

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00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:04,239
Speaker 1: he would. I don't see how you could get a

851
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 1: better coach than him, especially going from John Gruden. Some similarities,

852
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 1: both really famous, But unlike John Gruden, who loses a lot,

853
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:17,799
Speaker 1: all Jim Harbaugh does is win. Kay let's dive into

854
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 1: the middle Cough mail bag at John middle Coffs Instagram,

855
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:27,439
Speaker 1: and let's start with Corey longtime listener, big fan. I'm

856
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 1: a Steeler fan, big Steeler fan, and seeing Tomlin say

857
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 1: he's gonna have Haskins and Rudolph figure it out at

858
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:36,839
Speaker 1: quarterback one is disheartening. Personally, I'm not a huge fan

859
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:40,400
Speaker 1: of that option, neither of mine. What's your thought on

860
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 1: what the Steelers will do at quarterback? Keep of the

861
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:44,880
Speaker 1: good work. I think there's no chance that either one

862
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:48,839
Speaker 1: of those guys are starting next year. Have absolutely they

863
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:50,759
Speaker 1: they can't do it. Like, that's that to me is

864
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:53,640
Speaker 1: not an option. What I think is gonna happen is

865
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:56,280
Speaker 1: there gonna be in the market for a veteran quarterback.

866
00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:58,840
Speaker 1: So these guys, you know, obviously if Russell Wilson, I

867
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:01,799
Speaker 1: think they'll sniff around to show on Watson uh and

868
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 1: the draft. But Mason Rudolph is just not a good player,

869
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:09,080
Speaker 1: good looking guy, bad football player. Dwayne Haskins, I mean,

870
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 1: come on, he couldn't beat out Mason Rudolph this year

871
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:14,360
Speaker 1: to be the backup. So I think a lot of

872
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:15,799
Speaker 1: people have been asking you, like, do you really think

873
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:17,799
Speaker 1: the Eagles are gonna stay with Jalen Hurts? Well, yeah,

874
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:22,640
Speaker 1: as of January. If options become available, they'll pivot. I

875
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:24,560
Speaker 1: don't judge you on what you say. I judge you

876
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:28,040
Speaker 1: on your actions because what you say and what you tweet,

877
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:30,880
Speaker 1: what you put on Instagram is meaningless if you do

878
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 1: something else. That's I mean, just look at the way

879
00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:36,880
Speaker 1: society works. Judge people on their actions. If the Steelers

880
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:39,719
Speaker 1: don't sign or draft a guy, then you can be

881
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:42,719
Speaker 1: mad and have problems. But right now, like I what

882
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 1: you say when your season ends means nothing to me.

883
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:49,359
Speaker 1: Have a question for you with the upcoming twenty one

884
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:52,440
Speaker 1: UFA and possible loss of two coordinators looming this offseason,

885
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 1: do you think Dallas is about to enter a rebuilding season. No,

886
00:43:56,800 --> 00:44:00,279
Speaker 1: because I mean Michael Parsons young and star, they're line

887
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:03,840
Speaker 1: defensive linemen or under contract. Ceedee lamb Amaro are under contract.

888
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 1: They need to improve the offensive line. They have some

889
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 1: guys getting older and just not as good, and they

890
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:12,239
Speaker 1: need to improve the running back spot. Zeke. I would

891
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:15,799
Speaker 1: cut him because they still have good offensive weapons as

892
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:19,400
Speaker 1: pass catchers. They need to run the football. Their defense

893
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:22,840
Speaker 1: is still solid. Uh. The coordinator situation, you know who's

894
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 1: gonna be their offensive The defensive coordinator is a major

895
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:27,719
Speaker 1: question mark. Is Mike McCarthy gonna call the places next year?

896
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:30,360
Speaker 1: Who's gonna be their defensive They're gonna hire Mike Zimmer

897
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:33,960
Speaker 1: I would imagine Jerry would want that. And the thing

898
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 1: is with Mike McCarthy, Jerry gets to tell Mike McCarthy

899
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:38,359
Speaker 1: to do whatever he wants. I think it's a big

900
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:43,000
Speaker 1: reason uh why he likes them. But you know, they're

901
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:45,279
Speaker 1: they're they're not gonna rebuild, but they're gonna be some

902
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 1: question marks going into next year. L Kyler Murray take man.

903
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:53,360
Speaker 1: On the back end of the last two seasons, he

904
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:55,759
Speaker 1: has been banged up, explaining why he hasn't been able

905
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:58,920
Speaker 1: to perform. In addition to this, he is starting center

906
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:01,480
Speaker 1: Rodney Hudson has been injured, and so is this best

907
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 1: wide receiver. A large chunk of the team hadn't experienced

908
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:08,240
Speaker 1: the playoffs yet, so they truly weren't ready to play,

909
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 1: let alone face one of the most dominant defensive fronts

910
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:14,760
Speaker 1: in the league. Let's also not forget that Lamar Jackson

911
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 1: and Josh Allen played poorly in their first playoff experiences.

912
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:20,840
Speaker 1: Remember when Josh Allen threw that haywire pass against the

913
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:24,320
Speaker 1: Texans when Lamar, even with the bye week, got smoked

914
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 1: by the Titans. We often forget this things like this, man.

915
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 1: Another thing is that Cliff Kingsbury has historically underperformed on

916
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:33,000
Speaker 1: the back side of the season. Just look at the

917
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 1: records from Texas Tech and his quarterback Patrick Mahomes. Well,

918
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 1: here's what I'd say about Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson.

919
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:40,880
Speaker 1: They did that in their first and second years in

920
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 1: the league. Kyler Murray's in his third year and he

921
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:45,399
Speaker 1: crumbled last year and he crumbled again this year. Here's

922
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 1: the other thing. Kyler keeps getting banged up to the

923
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:50,760
Speaker 1: end of the season. Of course he does. He's tiny,

924
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:55,280
Speaker 1: he's very, very small for NFL standards, and he gets

925
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:57,360
Speaker 1: tossed around like a rag doll when they're able to

926
00:45:57,360 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 1: catch him. So by the end of the season, he

927
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:01,960
Speaker 1: runs out of gas because he's injured, because he's hurt,

928
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 1: because he's small. Josh Allen, Patrick Mahomes for the first time,

929
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:09,799
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson got injured this year. But those guys have

930
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:12,840
Speaker 1: got better as the season goes on. This guy keeps

931
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:15,640
Speaker 1: getting worse as the season goes on. Well he's injured. Well,

932
00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:20,200
Speaker 1: of course he's injured. He's small. So to me, they

933
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:23,320
Speaker 1: got issues and it starts with their little tiny quarterback

934
00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:26,920
Speaker 1: who has the worst fucking body language of any player

935
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:30,719
Speaker 1: I think I've ever seen who's that talented. His body

936
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:35,799
Speaker 1: language as a quarterback is from a scouting perspective, is disgusting.

937
00:46:36,719 --> 00:46:39,360
Speaker 1: Do you just watch the way other guys Joe Burrow,

938
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:45,400
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen, Mahomes, Russell Wilson, like, watch the

939
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:49,920
Speaker 1: way those guys carry themselves when door losses. Kyler is

940
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:54,480
Speaker 1: just so like he's got this lethargic energy for this

941
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:59,280
Speaker 1: talented player. It's just it's I don't know, it's gross.

942
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:01,799
Speaker 1: I am not a big Cala Murray guy. Like I said,

943
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:04,839
Speaker 1: I'm out. You can have him. I like playing against him,

944
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 1: I don't love playing against him September. I'll send the

945
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:09,839
Speaker 1: Limo to play against him in November and December. Though

946
00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:14,640
Speaker 1: September I might get my ass kicked. November December time

947
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:17,759
Speaker 1: for me to win. Absolutely love your takes on the pot.

948
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:20,359
Speaker 1: See this guy. Like my take, the forty Niners take

949
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:23,719
Speaker 1: a big hit if we lose McDaniel. I think it'd

950
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:25,760
Speaker 1: be a pretty big loss. He's been with Kyle Shanahan

951
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:29,040
Speaker 1: since Houston. Uh, he's lost basically all of his other

952
00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:31,880
Speaker 1: coaches over the years. McDaniel is a huge reason that

953
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 1: they're running the ball. Well, Uh, he's he's just I mean,

954
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:38,400
Speaker 1: the guy is an Ivy League guy. He's just brilliant.

955
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:41,600
Speaker 1: But you know, I don't know, Well, I don't think

956
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:44,360
Speaker 1: they're gonna lose him as a head coach. I'm pretty

957
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:49,880
Speaker 1: sure the rules. Um, you know, he's technically the offensive coordinator,

958
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:51,439
Speaker 1: but he doesn't call play. So if a team wants

959
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 1: to call it make him the offensive coordinator as the

960
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:56,960
Speaker 1: play caller, which I would imagine if I was interviewing

961
00:47:56,960 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 1: for these jobs like dan Quinn is a good example,

962
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:02,160
Speaker 1: I would say, Yeah, I'm gonna bring Mike McDaniels, my

963
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:06,080
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator. Mike McDaniel worked for dan Quinn. And when

964
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:08,440
Speaker 1: the owner heres, oh, you're gonna hire Kyle Shanahan's right

965
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:11,080
Speaker 1: hand guy, that would excite me if I'm an owner.

966
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:14,440
Speaker 1: I don't have social media, so I'm using my wife's Instagram.

967
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 1: Fan of the pod, I've been listening for a long

968
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:20,480
Speaker 1: time and I love the NFL angles based on experience

969
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:22,239
Speaker 1: in the league. I have a question for the mail bag.

970
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:26,120
Speaker 1: If pfs p FF is such a great metric and

971
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:30,000
Speaker 1: dives into the interesting intricacies of the NFL and how

972
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:32,640
Speaker 1: players truly perform, how come we don't use it on

973
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:35,239
Speaker 1: a broader scale. For example, they have the data to

974
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:37,839
Speaker 1: tract offensive line performances, and they were able to track

975
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:40,360
Speaker 1: Trent Williams the best player in the NFL, not the

976
00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:42,400
Speaker 1: m v P. They gave that to Tom and the

977
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:45,480
Speaker 1: offensive player of the year, whereas your casual fan wouldn't

978
00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:48,120
Speaker 1: consider that. Can you give your take on their information

979
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 1: is more widely used, especially since NFL programs use their data.

980
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:54,680
Speaker 1: Please answer my husband's questions. I think he loves you

981
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 1: more than me. He loves you more than me. I promise, well,

982
00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 1: I'll say this. Trent Williams. My mom can see he's

983
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 1: a great player. The way they grade Trent Williams is

984
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:10,000
Speaker 1: there is just a guy grading him every snap, like

985
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:12,960
Speaker 1: no different than if you just watch the All twenty

986
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:16,200
Speaker 1: two film and made it grade they are. I have

987
00:49:16,280 --> 00:49:19,280
Speaker 1: no issue with PFF, but they are not the gospel.

988
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:21,960
Speaker 1: They don't know the play calls. They just grade on

989
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:24,640
Speaker 1: what they think should happen. Sometimes they get it right,

990
00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:27,520
Speaker 1: like Trent Williams, and sometimes they get it wrong. So

991
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:31,840
Speaker 1: I just think that the reason, you know, there's always

992
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:34,759
Speaker 1: been a best left tackle in the sport right when

993
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:38,279
Speaker 1: Anthony Munio's in his prime might have been better at

994
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 1: his position than Joe Montana or Dan Marino right on

995
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:44,960
Speaker 1: a given year, but you would never say Dan Marino

996
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:49,000
Speaker 1: or Joe Montana were less important than Anthony Monrios. So

997
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:52,640
Speaker 1: it's you know, just in football, if you had like

998
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:55,960
Speaker 1: Larry Allen as a guard, was probably better as an

999
00:49:56,000 --> 00:50:00,239
Speaker 1: individual player than Troy Aikman, But Troy Aikman was more

1000
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:02,920
Speaker 1: important to the Cowboys because he was a quarterback. So

1001
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:07,719
Speaker 1: I think it's more about like the positional importance. But

1002
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:10,280
Speaker 1: again it gets back to PFF like they're just individual

1003
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:12,520
Speaker 1: guys who they hire off the street. Some of them

1004
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:14,239
Speaker 1: are former players or whatever, but a lot of them

1005
00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:16,160
Speaker 1: are just guys trying to break into the sports business.

1006
00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:18,840
Speaker 1: They get taught how to grade, right, It's like no

1007
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:22,320
Speaker 1: different if you went to every NFL team, their grades

1008
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:26,080
Speaker 1: would differ player to player, right, some teams would have

1009
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:28,200
Speaker 1: a guy ranked higher on a certain team than another

1010
00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:30,600
Speaker 1: team would have that same player ranked You know why,

1011
00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:36,000
Speaker 1: because grading players is subjective. It is not objective, Like

1012
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:40,120
Speaker 1: to me, objective is this player through forty touchdowns? That's

1013
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:43,320
Speaker 1: black and white through forty touchdowns. But how I grade

1014
00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:47,080
Speaker 1: you weekend week out changes, especially when you don't know

1015
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:51,240
Speaker 1: the assignments. As a lifelong Cowboy fan, I was born

1016
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:53,279
Speaker 1: into it not my choice. What do you think they

1017
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:55,279
Speaker 1: have to do to make a legitimate Super Bowl run?

1018
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:57,359
Speaker 1: I feel like every year the team gets hyped up,

1019
00:50:57,400 --> 00:50:59,719
Speaker 1: they always fall short. Could it be that the Cowboys

1020
00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:01,640
Speaker 1: player just get more media attention and they're sure to

1021
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:04,040
Speaker 1: be elite players when they might not actually be. I

1022
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:07,240
Speaker 1: feel like I've been watching the same old mediocrity story

1023
00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:09,839
Speaker 1: every year. They'd beat bad teams, losing the good ones,

1024
00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:12,480
Speaker 1: but are somehow out in the first or second round.

1025
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:15,960
Speaker 1: Just curious from an organizational standpoint, what changes have to

1026
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:18,880
Speaker 1: be made to be a legitimate contender. Well, when I

1027
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:22,520
Speaker 1: think to my youth of the great Cowboy teams, they

1028
00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:25,000
Speaker 1: ran the ship out of the football. They had an

1029
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:28,400
Speaker 1: elite offensive line, and they ran the ball with Emmett Smith.

1030
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:32,480
Speaker 1: And like I said about Dak Prescott, is that Dak's

1031
00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:35,160
Speaker 1: best success is going to have with running the football.

1032
00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:37,759
Speaker 1: You can still throw the ball a lot. You have them,

1033
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:40,080
Speaker 1: are you have Ceedee Lamb, you still have Wilson. I

1034
00:51:40,080 --> 00:51:42,000
Speaker 1: guess Gallup's gonna be a free agent. Jar Win is

1035
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:44,560
Speaker 1: a good player. You have to run the ball. When

1036
00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:47,200
Speaker 1: you become a good running team, your team is tougher.

1037
00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:51,600
Speaker 1: And one thing the Cowboys lack is some toughness. And

1038
00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:55,200
Speaker 1: you look historically at McCarthy's teams with the Packers, he

1039
00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:57,719
Speaker 1: wasn't that big on running the ball. I know firsthand

1040
00:51:57,719 --> 00:51:59,680
Speaker 1: my first year with the Eagles, we played him the

1041
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:01,799
Speaker 1: year they won the Super Bowl. In the playoffs in

1042
00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:04,000
Speaker 1: that year, James Starks against US ran for like a

1043
00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:06,080
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty yards and they were not a good

1044
00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:08,520
Speaker 1: running team because they throw the ball a lot. Well,

1045
00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:10,440
Speaker 1: when you run the ball, it's just easier to win

1046
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:13,640
Speaker 1: big games. Slows down the pace of the game. Uh,

1047
00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:16,360
Speaker 1: you get to dictate the terms when you're throwing it

1048
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:18,840
Speaker 1: all over the yard. Unless you have like Brady Manning

1049
00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:21,360
Speaker 1: or Rodgers in their prime locked in, it's hard. In

1050
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:25,680
Speaker 1: playoff games, it's very, very difficult. You got to run

1051
00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:29,400
Speaker 1: the football. I think that is the key. With the

1052
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 1: bear salary cap issues and the number of teams looking

1053
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:34,360
Speaker 1: for quarterbacks with a bad draft class coming, what do

1054
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:36,640
Speaker 1: you think them trying to unload Folds or Dalton to

1055
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:40,279
Speaker 1: a team like Pittsburgh. Uh, one year hold out until

1056
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Speaker 1: the next draft. I just don't think either one of

1057
00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:45,800
Speaker 1: those guys. I mean, Dalton has no value to meet Dalton.

1058
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:48,440
Speaker 1: I could not trade. I wouldn't trade a bag of

1059
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:51,640
Speaker 1: balls for Dalton. Now foals? Could I trade like a

1060
00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:53,719
Speaker 1: fifth or sixth round pick for Foals. I actually think

1061
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:56,560
Speaker 1: Folds is better as a bullpen guy than as a starter.

1062
00:52:57,080 --> 00:52:58,920
Speaker 1: When Folds comes out of the bullpen and starts a

1063
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:01,239
Speaker 1: game or two. He can look really good when you

1064
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:04,040
Speaker 1: name him the starter, that's when he looks terrible. I

1065
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:07,000
Speaker 1: think full is a very very bizarre player. That way

1066
00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:10,919
Speaker 1: Nighters fan from Canada love the content and your fraud.

1067
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:13,600
Speaker 1: Staley rants. Do you think the Cards are regretting passing

1068
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:16,000
Speaker 1: on Bosa for Kyler? Imagine what they're d line would

1069
00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:18,960
Speaker 1: be today. No. Again, I'm not the biggest Kyler guy,

1070
00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:21,640
Speaker 1: but you need a quarterback. If you had Nick Bosa,

1071
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:25,000
Speaker 1: which handler Jones and no quarterback? Your suck? So Kyler,

1072
00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:27,960
Speaker 1: I'm not acting like Kyler some scrub. He's a top

1073
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:31,560
Speaker 1: twelve talent in the league. His problem is he is

1074
00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:34,640
Speaker 1: just he struggles to play the position when it matters,

1075
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:38,759
Speaker 1: and when football matters is in January in December. And

1076
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:42,040
Speaker 1: you can say everyone keeps saying he's injured, Well he's

1077
00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:44,279
Speaker 1: been injured all the time now down the stretch of

1078
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:46,920
Speaker 1: these seasons, and I think it goes back to size.

1079
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:49,440
Speaker 1: We love these little quarterbacks. Now, do you know who

1080
00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:54,280
Speaker 1: I like big quarterbacks? Josh Allen, Tom Brady, Peyton Manning.

1081
00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 1: Have you ever walked by any of these guys? They're

1082
00:53:56,640 --> 00:54:02,040
Speaker 1: fucking enormous, even Mahomes. The guys are big. Lamar Jackson

1083
00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:05,239
Speaker 1: is big. Russell Wilson while he's short, he's two hundred

1084
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:09,879
Speaker 1: twenty five pounds so. And Kyler does a pretty good

1085
00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:14,640
Speaker 1: job sliding and avoiding hits. But when when you're just

1086
00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:18,080
Speaker 1: small you see Aaron Donald, Aaron Donald's trying to fight

1087
00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:21,040
Speaker 1: people up twenty eight nothing. These guys are coming for blood.

1088
00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:25,200
Speaker 1: I remember interviewing DeForest Buckeer one time and being like,

1089
00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:28,480
Speaker 1: this is an enormous human being. When I was with

1090
00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:31,399
Speaker 1: the Eagles, we drafted Fletcher Cox, remember seeing him walk

1091
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:34,840
Speaker 1: in the building, like, holy shit, this guy is massive.

1092
00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:40,080
Speaker 1: These guys are stone cold killers. They're faster, never upfront.

1093
00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:43,400
Speaker 1: Every guy is like the size of Reggie White, and

1094
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:46,680
Speaker 1: they can run. So even if you are a very

1095
00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:49,560
Speaker 1: very like even Lamar, like he's the best runner I've

1096
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:53,239
Speaker 1: ever seen, you get caught. You eventually get caught. So

1097
00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:56,600
Speaker 1: you gotta find ways to avoid hits, and it's hard.

1098
00:54:56,680 --> 00:54:59,560
Speaker 1: I don't blame Kyler. How can he see? It is

1099
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:01,680
Speaker 1: very very difficult to see inside the pocket, So you

1100
00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:03,200
Speaker 1: have to get him outside of the pocket. While you

1101
00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:06,800
Speaker 1: get inside of the pocket, that's where the shrapnel comes

1102
00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:12,320
Speaker 1: and bodies get blasted. I'm thinking about being an NFL scout,

1103
00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:13,920
Speaker 1: and that's my dream to work for the NFL. And

1104
00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:15,560
Speaker 1: I'm just wondering if there are any tips you can

1105
00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:17,600
Speaker 1: give me to start my career from being a scout.

1106
00:55:18,760 --> 00:55:21,480
Speaker 1: I've said it over and over, I work in college football.

1107
00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:26,080
Speaker 1: College football is a great, great stepping stepping stone and

1108
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:28,800
Speaker 1: a great, great opportunity to meet people in the business

1109
00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:31,319
Speaker 1: because unless you know people in football, and let's face it,

1110
00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:33,400
Speaker 1: most of us are not gonna know people in the NFL.

1111
00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:39,200
Speaker 1: You have to find a a bridge, and college football

1112
00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:43,200
Speaker 1: is an incredible bridge into the league. Lived in Pittsburgh

1113
00:55:43,239 --> 00:55:45,040
Speaker 1: as a child and grew up in Mississippi, so diehard

1114
00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:47,839
Speaker 1: Steelers fan I want, But I went to Old miss

1115
00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:50,680
Speaker 1: so I've watched a lot of pitt Panther football. All

1116
00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:52,759
Speaker 1: the Steeler fans just want to see the Steelers draft

1117
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:56,280
Speaker 1: pick it because he's a hometown thing. But I honestly

1118
00:55:56,320 --> 00:55:59,240
Speaker 1: think Matt corral is a much better quarterback in this class,

1119
00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:01,959
Speaker 1: with a beautiful deep ball and sneaky athleticism. I don't

1120
00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:04,040
Speaker 1: know if you have gotten to do any scouting yet,

1121
00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:06,640
Speaker 1: because the season is still going on, but interested in

1122
00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:10,879
Speaker 1: your opinion on the two guys. Well, I watched both

1123
00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:13,239
Speaker 1: of them play this fall. I'll start with pick it.

1124
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:15,480
Speaker 1: I watched him play a couple of games and then

1125
00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:18,359
Speaker 1: I've texted my buddies that have all evaluated him. He's

1126
00:56:18,400 --> 00:56:21,319
Speaker 1: up more athletic Kirk Cousins, you know, to me, he's

1127
00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:24,360
Speaker 1: in that kind of that realm. Yeah, i'd say Derek Carr,

1128
00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:27,160
Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo like that. That's kind of his skill set,

1129
00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:33,160
Speaker 1: where Corral is more of your you know, Russell Wilson

1130
00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:38,120
Speaker 1: ish type player, kind of freelancer, athletic, plays on the move,

1131
00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:42,480
Speaker 1: good arm, but he's been banged up a lot. And

1132
00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:45,080
Speaker 1: to me, pick it, like, I want to draft those

1133
00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:47,040
Speaker 1: guys in the second round. But if pick It's gonna

1134
00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:48,880
Speaker 1: go on the top fifteen, Like that's not really my

1135
00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:51,520
Speaker 1: cup of tea. But if you said looking back, like

1136
00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:54,120
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins, Jimmy Garoppolo, Derek Car, if there was a redraft,

1137
00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:56,480
Speaker 1: those guys would be top ten picks. So I don't

1138
00:56:56,480 --> 00:56:58,240
Speaker 1: think you can go wrong with pick it. He's safer.

1139
00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:05,040
Speaker 1: Corral has a higher ceiling, but you know, he's there's

1140
00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:07,319
Speaker 1: been some stuff, not that I think he's matured a

1141
00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:10,160
Speaker 1: lot this season, but early in his career that I

1142
00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:12,960
Speaker 1: think might leave some team pause, but from what I've heard,

1143
00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:16,680
Speaker 1: become a good leader. Um, he's gonna be a fascinating

1144
00:57:16,720 --> 00:57:19,440
Speaker 1: case study mac correl because the teams that I know,

1145
00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:21,720
Speaker 1: and they're still in the playoffs, so they're not looking

1146
00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:23,840
Speaker 1: for mc corral. They don't think he's a first round pick.

1147
00:57:25,680 --> 00:57:28,720
Speaker 1: You know, so we'll see and listen. When you when

1148
00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:31,680
Speaker 1: you evaluate these guys at quarterback, it's more than just

1149
00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:34,240
Speaker 1: how do you throw? You know, can you play under center?

1150
00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:37,360
Speaker 1: It's like the whole package. And i've heard pick it

1151
00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:40,680
Speaker 1: zero red flags and I'm not I'm saying mac correl

1152
00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:44,320
Speaker 1: right now, good guy matured, But I think you've gotta

1153
00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:48,640
Speaker 1: value and you, uh, you evaluate the guy's life because

1154
00:57:48,680 --> 00:57:50,800
Speaker 1: at quarterback, if I draft a guy in the top

1155
00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:52,720
Speaker 1: fifty picks, he's gonna be my starter. He's gonna be

1156
00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:57,000
Speaker 1: started fast, and then there's just injury issues because he's small.

1157
00:57:57,720 --> 00:57:59,480
Speaker 1: If you had to pick one rookie quarterback from the

1158
00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:02,160
Speaker 1: classes to twenty one to build your franchise around without

1159
00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:05,880
Speaker 1: looking at the team situation around them, which quarterback would

1160
00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:09,320
Speaker 1: you pick? Uh? I would probably still go with Trevor

1161
00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:11,840
Speaker 1: Lawrence and just hope that I'd get a better coach

1162
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:17,960
Speaker 1: and a better GM to build my team, because to me,

1163
00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:20,480
Speaker 1: it's just hard to judge any of them and I

1164
00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:23,320
Speaker 1: might be wrong, Like you know, justin Field, Zack Wilson,

1165
00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:26,200
Speaker 1: Trey Lance hasn't played. Mac Jones was the best, but

1166
00:58:26,320 --> 00:58:30,040
Speaker 1: he had the best situation. I think it's impossible I

1167
00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:32,560
Speaker 1: would just go still based on Trevor Lawrence coming out

1168
00:58:32,560 --> 00:58:36,760
Speaker 1: of college. Now, every year that passes by, you're not

1169
00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:38,480
Speaker 1: gonna be able to do that. But as of right now,

1170
00:58:38,520 --> 00:58:40,840
Speaker 1: one year out, I would still lean with Trevor Lawrence.

1171
00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:43,720
Speaker 1: Appreciate everyone sliding in those d m s. If I

1172
00:58:43,720 --> 00:58:45,520
Speaker 1: didn't get your question, I'll get to it next week

1173
00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:48,720
Speaker 1: or I'll answer it directly. Have a great weekend, enjoy

1174
00:58:48,800 --> 00:59:14,560
Speaker 1: the football, godspeed, peace, the volume