WEBVTT - #181 - Hit-Boy 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:03.120 Buleg Cavs show special guests in here. Not only do 0:00:03.240 --> 0:00:06.960 we have a baby dinosaur little see three See three, 0:00:07.000 --> 0:00:10.880 your son is here who's also moonlighting as a velociraptor. 0:00:11.600 --> 0:00:15.520 We have hit boy in here. First of all, I mean, 0:00:15.640 --> 0:00:17.920 just keep on congratulating you every time I see you. 0:00:18.400 --> 0:00:21.560 Ship just keeps leveling up and leveling up. You see 0:00:21.560 --> 0:00:27.120 the interviews going viral, trying trying to brod Yeah, I was. 0:00:27.160 --> 0:00:28.840 I was actually thinking about that. I was like, I 0:00:28.880 --> 0:00:31.760 wonder if Kendrick like show with the family or whatever. 0:00:31.880 --> 0:00:34.319 So that's the first thing I thought. I was, Yeah, 0:00:34.320 --> 0:00:36.440 because I was like, yeah, I wonder when the Heart 0:00:36.840 --> 0:00:39.760 Part five came out, I was like, you know, all 0:00:39.800 --> 0:00:42.000 the people's faces he used. I wonder if like everyone 0:00:42.080 --> 0:00:44.760 had a heads up or just was on some real 0:00:44.840 --> 0:00:47.120 artists shit and just threw it out. Yeah, And it 0:00:47.200 --> 0:00:49.559 worked out because it was done with a great intention 0:00:49.720 --> 0:00:55.160 and great you know, great artistic executed perfectly. Man. What 0:00:55.200 --> 0:00:59.080 did you think of the Kendrick album Fire? Amazing? Yeah, 0:00:59.120 --> 0:01:03.120 for sure? What is it like? What you know, you 0:01:03.240 --> 0:01:07.120 obviously worked with Kendrick in the past. You've worked with 0:01:07.280 --> 0:01:11.000 like who's who's that one artist that creative process. Who 0:01:11.040 --> 0:01:13.959 you've been in the studio with was like just different. 0:01:14.040 --> 0:01:16.480 That was like the most unique because you've been in 0:01:16.560 --> 0:01:20.240 with everybody. I mean, it's like I can't say because 0:01:20.240 --> 0:01:23.520 everybody got their own unique you know ways about him, 0:01:23.560 --> 0:01:25.560 you know what I'm saying, Like working with somebody like 0:01:25.600 --> 0:01:28.600 Big Sean, like how he always just make sure he 0:01:28.880 --> 0:01:31.880 really dial in on every lyric, every line, Like he'll 0:01:31.920 --> 0:01:33.839 say some shit and I'm like, oh, that's it, it's fire. 0:01:33.880 --> 0:01:35.080 He'd be like, nah, I think I can come with 0:01:35.120 --> 0:01:38.640 something crazier. So just even watching artists just that that 0:01:38.640 --> 0:01:41.120 that helps me game perspective, helps me to want to 0:01:41.120 --> 0:01:43.280 push further. You know what I'm saying. Have you taken 0:01:43.319 --> 0:01:46.199 any of the stuff you've seen on the producer side 0:01:46.280 --> 0:01:48.520 when you work with artists and applied it to your 0:01:48.600 --> 0:01:51.720 ship as a rapper, any of the creative stuff I'll 0:01:51.760 --> 0:01:53.360 be sitting next to na as well, you know what 0:01:53.440 --> 0:01:55.960 i mean. That's what I'm saying. Engineered most of the 0:01:56.040 --> 0:01:59.240 not songs. So I literally watched, you know, the way 0:01:59.280 --> 0:02:01.920 he's delivered in the lyrics, the way he's writing them, 0:02:01.920 --> 0:02:04.080 and it's like I have no choice but to be 0:02:04.160 --> 0:02:06.720 leveling up every time we link up. So you'll applied 0:02:06.880 --> 0:02:09.840 some of that stuff to your own one million percent. 0:02:10.480 --> 0:02:13.600 I wouldn't. I'll be stupid not to. So Coursa is 0:02:14.280 --> 0:02:18.360 officially the YouTube premieres out Friday. I think there's it's 0:02:18.360 --> 0:02:21.960 gonna be on DSP, DSP's Thursday Night. It's on YouTube 0:02:22.000 --> 0:02:24.720 right now, It's on YouTube right now. DSPs this week 0:02:24.800 --> 0:02:27.679 going crazy. Man, we got the merch course of all that. Yeah, 0:02:27.680 --> 0:02:30.160 so give me cause obviously you and Dom half a 0:02:30.200 --> 0:02:33.080 mil you guys already have a great, a great legacy. 0:02:33.520 --> 0:02:37.280 Is this going into the direction of another joint project 0:02:37.440 --> 0:02:40.240 or what is what's going on? Me and Dom we 0:02:40.400 --> 0:02:44.280 just always we got a crazy, just good friendship. Just firstly, 0:02:44.400 --> 0:02:47.160 so the music is just becoming, you know what I'm saying, 0:02:47.160 --> 0:02:49.800 And this was a joint we did and we both agree, like, bro, 0:02:49.880 --> 0:02:52.320 we got to drop this like it's shit different. What 0:02:52.360 --> 0:02:54.200 are we talking on the radio. I think he's trying 0:02:54.200 --> 0:02:59.080 to get out of that mask. Let's check it off 0:02:59.120 --> 0:03:01.800 and he's trying to figure that out. You good, see 0:03:01.840 --> 0:03:07.239 through you good buddy, that's bouleg We're gonna get you 0:03:07.320 --> 0:03:12.360 some chips man. Yeah. So you and Dom, you just 0:03:12.560 --> 0:03:15.359 are I mean you guys are always working, always working, 0:03:15.440 --> 0:03:17.120 and of course it was just something we came up 0:03:17.160 --> 0:03:19.680 with and it just felt right, you know what I'm saying. 0:03:19.680 --> 0:03:22.240 We we took the song to New York. I went 0:03:22.280 --> 0:03:25.200 to Brooklyn and uh song went out to bed Sty 0:03:25.360 --> 0:03:27.960 and just played the joint like it wasn't even like 0:03:28.040 --> 0:03:30.520 no force ful, like we about to record, y'all. Let's 0:03:30.560 --> 0:03:32.200 like I want you to dance to it. They just 0:03:32.280 --> 0:03:35.280 was dancing to that mother for You're Getting Sturdy. They 0:03:35.360 --> 0:03:37.720 was just doing it on their own. Yeah, it was fly. Yeah, 0:03:37.880 --> 0:03:39.720 you know, I sawry so they were doing the New York. 0:03:39.800 --> 0:03:41.440 I don't know what that dance. You know, what's that? 0:03:41.680 --> 0:03:45.760 What's that called that be doing? Getting sturdy? Getting start? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, 0:03:45.520 --> 0:03:47.760 the drill the drill wave in New York is crazy 0:03:47.840 --> 0:03:51.880 right now. So I see you have a surf club 0:03:51.960 --> 0:03:54.160 chain on For people who don't know that is kind 0:03:54.160 --> 0:03:58.440 of the origins of everything. You kind of came into 0:03:58.440 --> 0:04:01.280 the game shout out to h the whole surf club ship, 0:04:01.320 --> 0:04:04.880 that whole movement was insane. Is this something you're gonna 0:04:04.880 --> 0:04:07.800 be resurrecting. I mean it never went away, like surf 0:04:07.840 --> 0:04:10.440 club that's just been at the core of everything I do. 0:04:10.520 --> 0:04:12.320 But you know I started because it went it went 0:04:12.400 --> 0:04:15.120 yeah to Surf Club to hsaighty seven, which is just 0:04:15.160 --> 0:04:17.880 like I feel like HS eighty seven is like my 0:04:18.000 --> 0:04:20.680 heart and soul of the music aspect of what I do. 0:04:20.760 --> 0:04:23.080 Surf Club is just the overall lifestyle. That's how I 0:04:23.080 --> 0:04:25.960 live my life. Just so some wavy ship like we've 0:04:26.000 --> 0:04:28.360 been on that for years. So you know what I'm saying, 0:04:28.400 --> 0:04:31.200 we I mean Surf Club, I'm about to really be 0:04:31.200 --> 0:04:34.120 putting out you know, new music, new artists, my own music, 0:04:34.360 --> 0:04:37.280 just like really pushing the Surf Club through the Serf Club. 0:04:37.480 --> 0:04:40.120 So that is officially going to be like your label. Yeah, 0:04:41.800 --> 0:04:44.400 this gang though, like everybody that's from Surf Club, they 0:04:44.400 --> 0:04:46.360 could do what they do with the with the wave 0:04:46.400 --> 0:04:50.320 because we all started it together. What uh would there 0:04:50.320 --> 0:04:52.120 be any of the old AGHA eighty seven guys you 0:04:52.160 --> 0:04:54.560 try to like I always think about k Roosevelt and 0:04:54.600 --> 0:04:56.599 do me now and how perfect of a song that was. 0:04:57.440 --> 0:05:00.680 And it's crazy because I feel like you were as 0:05:00.839 --> 0:05:03.680 as crazy as HS eighty seven was. Somehow just the 0:05:03.720 --> 0:05:07.000 timing wasn't right. Yeah, I mean, well everything was changing 0:05:07.120 --> 0:05:10.160 with uh you know DSPs and you know, going over 0:05:10.240 --> 0:05:13.080 from people buying music to like completely streaming, and they 0:05:13.120 --> 0:05:15.560 were still trying to calculate how to do all that. 0:05:15.720 --> 0:05:17.640 So we got kind of caught up in the whirlwind 0:05:17.680 --> 0:05:20.880 of that. And I feel like not having the right infrastructure, 0:05:20.960 --> 0:05:23.880 not having the right people on my team speaking for 0:05:23.920 --> 0:05:26.440 me while I'm making this music, because it's hard to 0:05:26.480 --> 0:05:28.760 make the music and have to think about the business, 0:05:28.800 --> 0:05:31.200 to have to think about all the other aspects of everything. 0:05:31.440 --> 0:05:34.800 And you had you had a pretty serious roster too, Like, uh, 0:05:34.960 --> 0:05:36.679 it wasn't like you just had a couple of artists. 0:05:36.680 --> 0:05:39.520 You had audio push camp money. I forget what was 0:05:39.520 --> 0:05:43.239 the young lady's name be mack be Mac the queen, 0:05:43.440 --> 0:05:45.760 you know it was k Rose. I just like kind 0:05:45.760 --> 0:05:48.520 of just opened up, you know, the opportunities I had 0:05:48.600 --> 0:05:50.640 opened up my House of Hit era, the House of 0:05:50.680 --> 0:05:54.599 Hit area, just just like opening up the studio, opening 0:05:54.680 --> 0:05:56.760 up the opportunities for everybody to just come and do 0:05:56.839 --> 0:05:59.960 their thing. And it was a super like a real 0:06:00.160 --> 0:06:02.760 learning curve for me, just like on how to really 0:06:02.839 --> 0:06:05.440 move in the game. And now you kind of are 0:06:05.600 --> 0:06:07.719 probably able to take some of those lessons you learned 0:06:07.760 --> 0:06:10.680 and then apply him to the surf Club. How many 0:06:10.720 --> 0:06:16.320 years later is this seven years? It was that twenty fourteen, 0:06:16.360 --> 0:06:18.920 twenty fifteen, almost nine years, bro for real? Well, I 0:06:19.000 --> 0:06:21.160 mean we was going well, Granted All My Life was 0:06:21.200 --> 0:06:23.479 twenty fourteen. Yeah, so damn it. Eight that was eight years, 0:06:23.480 --> 0:06:25.800 eight years. I remember hearing Granted All my Life at 0:06:25.880 --> 0:06:28.200 least a year before it came out. Yeah, you used 0:06:28.240 --> 0:06:30.960 to pull up. Yeah that's crazy. And I remember when 0:06:31.000 --> 0:06:33.000 you told me that that was your dad rapping. I 0:06:33.040 --> 0:06:35.039 was like, wait a minute, free big hit too man 0:06:35.839 --> 0:06:38.440 for your pops. Man. I remember that was the wildest 0:06:38.440 --> 0:06:40.480 shit because when he was like, hit boys my son, 0:06:40.960 --> 0:06:44.280 I was like, wait, wait, bue, yes my pops. Yeah, 0:06:44.320 --> 0:06:47.520 shout out to your dad man free him. Is there 0:06:47.560 --> 0:06:50.240 going to be uh? I just want to thank you 0:06:50.560 --> 0:06:54.440 because you are Obviously NAS has a lot to do 0:06:54.480 --> 0:06:56.920 with it, but just in terms of kind of I 0:06:56.960 --> 0:06:59.039 don't know what it is about your relationship with Nas, 0:06:59.040 --> 0:07:01.799 but it is inspired him to release a high quantity 0:07:01.800 --> 0:07:05.160 of music over the last couple of years. The fact 0:07:05.240 --> 0:07:08.000 we got Magic just as like a bonus last year 0:07:08.120 --> 0:07:10.600 was fucking incredible. I think Magic low Key might be 0:07:10.640 --> 0:07:12.880 my favorite of the three albums. That's the funny thing. 0:07:12.920 --> 0:07:15.400 And that's what's motivational for me, and I would say 0:07:15.480 --> 0:07:17.240 him as well, is the fact that every time we 0:07:17.320 --> 0:07:19.720 drop a project, people are like, na, this one better 0:07:19.760 --> 0:07:22.480 than the last one. They've gotten better each time exactly. 0:07:22.520 --> 0:07:24.600 So my thing is like, let's just keep leveling it 0:07:24.680 --> 0:07:27.080 up every time and kind of just competing with ourselves. 0:07:27.120 --> 0:07:29.360 We're not obviously nas is who he is, like he 0:07:29.480 --> 0:07:32.280 seemed he's cemented in this ship and you know, legend 0:07:32.400 --> 0:07:35.400 royalty all that, but it's like he just motivated to 0:07:35.520 --> 0:07:37.800 make the music and it's just strictly about that, and 0:07:37.840 --> 0:07:40.320 that's why it's just leveling up. How much of King's 0:07:40.320 --> 0:07:43.320 Disease three is has been worked on? Man, I can't 0:07:43.400 --> 0:07:46.760 say a percentage, man, But you guys, it's it's it's happening. 0:07:46.800 --> 0:07:48.600 I mean, I mean, you know he said it, don't 0:07:48.640 --> 0:07:50.240 magic it. Yeah, I'm saying he said it. So it's 0:07:50.360 --> 0:07:52.040 on the way. So it is on the way. It's 0:07:52.200 --> 0:07:54.400 the way nice is it when you guys get in 0:07:54.440 --> 0:07:56.400 for a new project, is it is there any sort 0:07:56.400 --> 0:07:58.480 of direction or is it just such an organic vibe 0:07:58.480 --> 0:08:00.960 that it's like whatever comes out comes out, you guys, guys, 0:08:01.120 --> 0:08:03.440 that's basically how it is like because we we just 0:08:03.560 --> 0:08:06.400 kept recording after KT two, and you know, it was 0:08:06.400 --> 0:08:08.200 a moment where it was like maybe this is KTI 0:08:08.280 --> 0:08:09.720 three and was like, nah, we got to just go 0:08:09.800 --> 0:08:12.520 with a completely new concept and he just was knocking 0:08:12.600 --> 0:08:14.640 him out up until the point where it was like, nah, 0:08:14.640 --> 0:08:17.640 we got to drop some you know, two in one years. 0:08:17.720 --> 0:08:20.920 That shit's big, bro. And it's crazy too, because like, 0:08:21.200 --> 0:08:26.120 I know, you guys won uh you got something to say? Say? 0:08:26.160 --> 0:08:31.600 What up? He's like, I'm straight. I was gonna say, 0:08:32.040 --> 0:08:34.199 you guys obviously want to Grammy for Rap Album of 0:08:34.240 --> 0:08:37.800 the Year in twenty twenty one, right, twenty twenty Yeah, 0:08:37.840 --> 0:08:41.160 ship the whole last couple of years, everything is just stemic. 0:08:41.320 --> 0:08:44.880 Oh man, it's crazy. But I feel like King's Disease 0:08:44.960 --> 0:08:48.480 two was the better album of oh what exactly. I 0:08:48.480 --> 0:08:50.960 mean that's how a lot of people. Yeah, I feel 0:08:51.000 --> 0:08:54.199 like Magic is better than the other two exactly. So 0:08:54.280 --> 0:08:56.320 it's like that's why you can't really call it man, 0:08:56.400 --> 0:08:59.320 Like you gotta just just keep it pushing after you know, 0:08:59.360 --> 0:09:01.680 the decision, even with my Producer of the Year award, 0:09:01.880 --> 0:09:03.720 I was gonna say, twenty twenty you got you got 0:09:03.760 --> 0:09:06.439 snubbed twenty twenty one, it came back around. You got 0:09:06.440 --> 0:09:09.199 the nomination. That's the nomination you should have took. A 0:09:09.240 --> 0:09:11.000 lot of people have said that, but it is what 0:09:11.040 --> 0:09:13.600 it is. You got to keep pushing for that next year. Yeah, 0:09:13.720 --> 0:09:16.080 what who ended up winning the year you were nominated? 0:09:16.160 --> 0:09:23.440 Last year? Who won? What was his name be? Truth? 0:09:25.960 --> 0:09:29.760 Jack Antonov? Right? Yeah, I mean congrats to him for shure. 0:09:29.840 --> 0:09:31.600 I never met him or nothing, but but he ain't 0:09:31.600 --> 0:09:35.560 on a hit boy run. To be honest, I feel 0:09:35.600 --> 0:09:37.720 like you and Alchemist Loki have had the craziest like 0:09:37.880 --> 0:09:40.440 underrated Well yours you're not as underrated, but I feel 0:09:40.440 --> 0:09:42.600 like you and now have really been like nah, and 0:09:42.800 --> 0:09:46.320 Alchemist is just pure just in terms of just putting 0:09:46.320 --> 0:09:50.160 out shit NonStop the last few years. It's just quality. Yeah, 0:09:50.200 --> 0:09:52.520 Like I mean he was like killing shit before I 0:09:52.559 --> 0:09:55.120 even ever made a beat of course. Yeah, that's what's 0:09:55.160 --> 0:09:58.240 just ill to just that's motivation for me. It's like, damn, 0:09:58.240 --> 0:10:00.400 you could keep leveling it up. You can keep reaching 0:10:00.400 --> 0:10:02.559 new heights and just making the ship that you want 0:10:02.600 --> 0:10:05.320 to make. You know what, I love wash When you 0:10:05.320 --> 0:10:07.960 guys did your verses, you and boy wanted during the pandemic. 0:10:08.000 --> 0:10:10.120 It was one of the early ones. That was the 0:10:10.160 --> 0:10:13.360 first one after Swizz and Timberland. That's right. They didn't 0:10:13.400 --> 0:10:15.079 even set theirs up. They just got in the car 0:10:15.360 --> 0:10:17.920 board during the pandemic and start playing records. Right. What 0:10:17.920 --> 0:10:20.520 I'm saying, ours was, you know, set up. It was 0:10:20.559 --> 0:10:23.520 people tuned in and tapped into that. It's crazy too, 0:10:23.559 --> 0:10:27.120 because it happened kind of like pre the Grammy pre 0:10:28.040 --> 0:10:30.880 I think King's Disease wasn't out yet right now. There 0:10:30.960 --> 0:10:33.760 was so much I was the super underdog, big time 0:10:33.840 --> 0:10:35.920 under the time. But I feel like during that verses 0:10:35.960 --> 0:10:37.720 you just had to kind of remind people like, Yo, 0:10:38.280 --> 0:10:40.120 that's why it was good. And that's what I loved 0:10:40.120 --> 0:10:43.200 about Versus in the early days is it was giving 0:10:43.280 --> 0:10:45.839 you know, you know, flowers to the people that don't 0:10:46.080 --> 0:10:48.640 normally get you know, the flowers or whatever. So I 0:10:48.640 --> 0:10:50.680 feel like that that was the aspect that was so 0:10:50.840 --> 0:10:53.560 ill to me, and it felt really organic. There was 0:10:53.559 --> 0:10:58.240 something about it not being as produced when it was 0:10:58.320 --> 0:11:00.560 just like yo, we're going live and I'm in my spot, 0:11:00.600 --> 0:11:03.040 you're in your spot. That it made it intense. I 0:11:03.040 --> 0:11:04.840 think it made it intense, and I just think it 0:11:04.840 --> 0:11:09.480 it introduced like a unpredictability that like once they got 0:11:09.480 --> 0:11:11.959 it like really together, it was like, yeah, it's like 0:11:12.040 --> 0:11:14.400 kind of watching the TV show now, Yeah for sure, 0:11:15.080 --> 0:11:17.559 for sure. Yeah, it's super produced in high level high 0:11:17.920 --> 0:11:20.520 There was something about like you known, my connection was 0:11:20.559 --> 0:11:23.000 good people trying to figure out the sound, like when 0:11:23.080 --> 0:11:25.640 Riza and Primo were trying to figure out like yo, 0:11:25.679 --> 0:11:27.520 yo you no, no, try this, try this. It was 0:11:27.600 --> 0:11:30.480 just something about that that was like vintage verses, Like 0:11:30.520 --> 0:11:34.040 I didn't even know the last eight on MJG. Shit, 0:11:34.080 --> 0:11:36.200 I didn't even know that was going on when it 0:11:36.240 --> 0:11:38.200 was going on. I've seen people like yo, I didn't 0:11:38.200 --> 0:11:40.520 even know it was the verses happening right now. Yeah. 0:11:40.600 --> 0:11:42.959 I think the last verses that I was really honed 0:11:43.000 --> 0:11:45.600 in on was the Bone Thugs one with three six 0:11:46.160 --> 0:11:47.680 just because I'm a big Bone fan and I just 0:11:47.679 --> 0:11:50.280 wanted to see how that went and it was an 0:11:50.360 --> 0:11:54.800 entertaining one because Busy Bone got extremely emotional. And last 0:11:54.800 --> 0:11:57.960 big one I remember it was the Gucci and Geezy one. 0:11:58.040 --> 0:12:01.000 That was probably the no. Was that was that before 0:12:01.240 --> 0:12:03.760 Jada kiss? You know what was that after? Before that 0:12:03.840 --> 0:12:05.960 was before so maybe ye jadakiss joint I was like 0:12:05.960 --> 0:12:08.480 the pinnacle. Yeah, I think the Kiss moment is like 0:12:08.520 --> 0:12:14.400 the greatest versus performance ever. I think Jada it was 0:12:14.440 --> 0:12:16.880 the raws hip hop. It's the most raw shit because 0:12:16.920 --> 0:12:20.280 he won the verses by just being like, like that 0:12:20.400 --> 0:12:23.080 freestyle he did was like it was like dude, like 0:12:23.160 --> 0:12:26.760 that's just no no extras. It was the epitome of 0:12:26.880 --> 0:12:29.800 why we love hip hop music, Like how we grew 0:12:29.880 --> 0:12:32.200 up listening to this ship. It's like Kiss just went 0:12:32.280 --> 0:12:34.400 up there and put on a clinic like how to perform, 0:12:34.600 --> 0:12:37.360 how to just like fuck the hits. He had the hits, 0:12:37.360 --> 0:12:40.240 but like just yeah, try to do this. You guys 0:12:40.280 --> 0:12:42.800 are wrapping over your tracks over there. Shout out to 0:12:42.880 --> 0:12:46.280 Kiss man. What I also love is how you've just 0:12:46.360 --> 0:12:49.800 been kind of bringing a lot of worlds together sonically, 0:12:50.960 --> 0:12:54.000 whether it's bringing Blast into the room with Nas or 0:12:54.280 --> 0:12:57.160 having Dom Kennedy on a record with Like, there's certain 0:12:57.240 --> 0:13:01.560 like collaborations that probably never would have happened. And from 0:13:01.600 --> 0:13:03.600 like somebody who loves West Coast hip hop and just 0:13:03.640 --> 0:13:07.000 loves hip hop in general, I'm like, that's that's the 0:13:07.120 --> 0:13:10.480 hip boy sauce. Like I'm not sure domin Knos would 0:13:10.480 --> 0:13:15.000 have worked together had they not linked don Toliver. Yeah, like, 0:13:15.040 --> 0:13:17.280 I just I just think of it as music, you 0:13:17.280 --> 0:13:20.120 know what I'm saying. I'll really you know, categorize shit. 0:13:20.200 --> 0:13:22.160 I'm just like, if it can, if it can sound 0:13:22.240 --> 0:13:24.400 quality in my head, I know I can bring that 0:13:24.440 --> 0:13:27.360 out to speakers. Yeah, one hundred percent. Who are some 0:13:27.400 --> 0:13:30.160 of the younger artists right now? Because you do have 0:13:30.200 --> 0:13:32.480 your ear to the street, your studios kind of become 0:13:32.520 --> 0:13:35.920 like a it's a special place. Man. Who are some 0:13:35.920 --> 0:13:37.560 of the younger artists right now that you're checking for 0:13:37.679 --> 0:13:39.400 that aren't on Surf Club? And then let's shout out 0:13:39.400 --> 0:13:41.240 the ones who maybe may or may not be on 0:13:41.280 --> 0:13:43.280 Surf Club. Yo? What man, we gotta stop the interview 0:13:43.280 --> 0:13:45.160 real quick to tell you about our good folks at 0:13:45.280 --> 0:13:48.880 blue Chew. That's right, go to bluetoo dot com. 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Let's get back to the interview. 0:15:06.360 --> 0:15:09.160 I mean, right now, I'm playing the homie spank Nybie 0:15:09.240 --> 0:15:11.560 he he out of the Ie he out of Hemmet. 0:15:11.680 --> 0:15:16.040 I actually found a yeah deep in the I Yeah, 0:15:16.680 --> 0:15:19.920 my homeboy Price from Audio Push actually killing it put 0:15:19.960 --> 0:15:21.760 me on his music, you know what I'm saying, probably 0:15:21.800 --> 0:15:23.880 like a few years trying a Price who just I 0:15:23.880 --> 0:15:25.400 think it's on tour with a big criit right now. 0:15:25.480 --> 0:15:27.600 He's doing his thing for sure. So he put me 0:15:27.640 --> 0:15:29.800 on Spank music some years ago. And it's funny he 0:15:29.920 --> 0:15:31.280 used to be signing me and now I'm me and 0:15:31.360 --> 0:15:34.040 Spank be working on a lot of music together. Yo. 0:15:34.320 --> 0:15:36.920 For people who don't know him, it is as deep, 0:15:37.120 --> 0:15:39.400 oh that it's very deep, Like I mean, it's like 0:15:39.440 --> 0:15:41.600 it's like breaking bad ship up right up right over there, 0:15:41.640 --> 0:15:44.480 like close to coach. Really Yeah, some breaking bad shit 0:15:44.560 --> 0:15:48.120 going on in him for sure. Yeah damn. So it's 0:15:48.200 --> 0:15:50.440 it's it's that's someone you're working with. That's somebody I'm 0:15:50.440 --> 0:15:53.160 working with, somebody I've just been building making music with 0:15:53.280 --> 0:15:55.080 and I don't know exactly where it's gonna go, but 0:15:55.120 --> 0:15:57.960 we've just been trying to figure it out how long 0:15:59.200 --> 0:16:02.000 Because somebody like I feel like you and Blast have 0:16:02.880 --> 0:16:05.720 kind of similar parallels in terms of like just you 0:16:05.720 --> 0:16:07.800 guys have been around for a long time. Now Blast 0:16:07.880 --> 0:16:11.080 finally got his flowers recently. But did you ever know Blast, 0:16:11.200 --> 0:16:13.800 Like back in the day when he was producing, he 0:16:13.840 --> 0:16:15.480 was in a group. He used to be in a group. 0:16:15.520 --> 0:16:17.080 Forgot the name of the group, but I know the 0:16:17.120 --> 0:16:20.920 homegirl Jizzle first introduced me to Blast. She brought him 0:16:20.920 --> 0:16:24.080 to my studio and he was playing joints from his group, 0:16:24.200 --> 0:16:25.840 I believe at the time, and she was telling me 0:16:25.880 --> 0:16:28.680 how he kind of was like creative directing his own shit, 0:16:28.800 --> 0:16:30.960 so he always had the vision. That's one thing I 0:16:31.040 --> 0:16:34.320 realized looking back, you know, watching Travis Scott go from 0:16:34.360 --> 0:16:37.720 literally zero to where he is now, watching Frank Ocean 0:16:37.800 --> 0:16:39.680 not even be an artist. He was writing songs to 0:16:39.720 --> 0:16:41.720 my beats, you know what I'm saying, not even just 0:16:41.760 --> 0:16:44.400 to sell them to other people. Just watching these people 0:16:44.440 --> 0:16:47.960 like they also had a vision for themselves early, Like Travis, 0:16:48.040 --> 0:16:49.920 he knew the type of videos he wanted to make. 0:16:50.000 --> 0:16:52.080 He knew how he wanted to dress, how he wanted 0:16:52.120 --> 0:16:55.320 his hair. I remember seeing Travis opened up for Casey 0:16:55.360 --> 0:16:58.440 Veggies back in the day, like twenty ten, eleven, twelve, 0:16:58.480 --> 0:17:01.240 I don't remember, I remember what year was. Yeah, it's crazy. 0:17:01.320 --> 0:17:03.160 And then I didn't know so Frank. You knew Frank 0:17:03.160 --> 0:17:05.600 Ocean prior to him actually decided to become an artist. 0:17:05.680 --> 0:17:08.520 One of his first placements ever was this song that 0:17:08.560 --> 0:17:10.880 he wrote on a beat that me and Chasing Cash did. 0:17:10.880 --> 0:17:12.560 It was a song for Brandy that was on one 0:17:12.600 --> 0:17:15.040 of her albums, and he wrote the songs Oh Ship, 0:17:15.960 --> 0:17:19.080 It's chasing called first in Love, It's Chasing Cash. Going 0:17:19.119 --> 0:17:21.600 to be involved in the obviously og Surf Club member 0:17:21.680 --> 0:17:24.439 is he like? He shot me the logo that I 0:17:24.560 --> 0:17:26.800 made my chain out of, and we're using that shout 0:17:26.840 --> 0:17:30.919 out hit to his clothing line too. I forget what fire? Yeah, crazy, 0:17:30.960 --> 0:17:32.960 he'd be getting love shout out to the New Orleans 0:17:33.080 --> 0:17:37.120 legend man million damn. That's it's crazy how much history 0:17:37.160 --> 0:17:39.280 you've been a part of them? Man for sure. I 0:17:39.320 --> 0:17:41.639 mean even like said Drake Repens Serf Club back in 0:17:41.680 --> 0:17:44.040 the day. You go listen to his A Milli freestyle, 0:17:44.080 --> 0:17:47.040 he shouted out Serf Club. Go listen to nine am 0:17:47.040 --> 0:17:49.919 in Dallas. He's shouting out Serf Club in Chase just 0:17:49.960 --> 0:17:52.560 like this. It's real deep rooted. So you know what 0:17:52.560 --> 0:17:54.520 I'm saying. When we when we pop out just on 0:17:54.560 --> 0:17:56.760 some shit people just got to know it's history to this. 0:17:57.920 --> 0:18:01.879 Can you give me what is your best story? Because 0:18:01.920 --> 0:18:05.240 I'm real tight with you know, in Phoenix we got 0:18:05.240 --> 0:18:07.800 a legend to us and he is a legend. Shout 0:18:07.840 --> 0:18:11.040 out my brother Lifted, who produced Mercy. We used to 0:18:11.040 --> 0:18:13.200 be around each other a lot out in Hawaiian, right, 0:18:13.240 --> 0:18:14.840 so he would tell me some of these stories about 0:18:14.880 --> 0:18:18.320 Hawaii or even like some of these hotel sessions up 0:18:18.320 --> 0:18:22.080 in like some hotel suites out in London. Yeah, in London, Yeah, 0:18:22.280 --> 0:18:24.520 like yeah, I just flew in and Kanye had the 0:18:24.560 --> 0:18:27.159 studio set up in a hotel suite. I remember we 0:18:27.280 --> 0:18:29.439 was all in there and me, Lifted, pushed. It was 0:18:29.480 --> 0:18:32.800 pretty much the whole roster of good music. And they 0:18:32.840 --> 0:18:36.359 played the Mercy beat and Sean was literally sitting on 0:18:36.400 --> 0:18:38.960 the floor everybody around him, and he just like recording 0:18:39.000 --> 0:18:41.879 his verse like vibe and shit was crazy. Kanye was 0:18:41.880 --> 0:18:44.359 like kind of coaching him like it was a moment. Wow. 0:18:44.880 --> 0:18:47.520 So he's just recording it in the room, just sitting 0:18:47.560 --> 0:18:49.320 on the floor holding the mic and on the floor 0:18:49.400 --> 0:18:53.119 like just going over his parts. That's crazy. There was 0:18:53.160 --> 0:18:56.440 another song that I may or may not have heard 0:18:56.480 --> 0:18:58.480 a snippet of that Never Has seen the light of 0:18:58.560 --> 0:19:01.560 Day that was similar to Mercy. Now. I know they 0:19:01.560 --> 0:19:04.520 put out a Mercy Part two that wasn't crazy, But 0:19:04.600 --> 0:19:06.639 there was another record that I think was supposed to 0:19:06.680 --> 0:19:08.800 be what was the other Cruel Summer is the one 0:19:08.840 --> 0:19:10.320