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Speaker 1: Welcome to Creature, future production of I Heart Radio. I'm

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Speaker 1: your host of Many Parasites, Katie Golden. I studied psychology

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Speaker 1: and evolutionary biology, and today we're going to talk about

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Speaker 1: the birds and the bees. Literally, reproduction is the key

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Speaker 1: to evolution, which means that Mother Nature can get a

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Speaker 1: little strange when it comes to sex. All she cares

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Speaker 1: about is whether your jeans get passed on. She doesn't

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Speaker 1: judge animals if they get a little freaky. Parents, you

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Speaker 1: might want to listen to this one first if your

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Speaker 1: kids are in the room. We're talking about strange equipment,

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Speaker 1: bizarre courtship, and fatal attraction, Discover the s'mores, We answer

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Speaker 1: the angel question, the kidnas Are you Kidney? Today's guest

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Speaker 1: is an actor, writer, producer who's been on Chelsea Lately,

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Speaker 1: Orange is the New Black, Shameless, Insatiable, Key and Peel,

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Speaker 1: among many other shows. She's the host of Will You

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Speaker 1: Accept This Rose and has just authored a memoir titled

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Speaker 1: Little Miss Little Compton, which comes out September twenty nine,

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Speaker 1: and you can pre order now. And I don't know

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Speaker 1: when she has time to sleep. Welcome to the show,

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Speaker 1: Art and Marine. Oh my goodness, Thank you so much, Katie. Wow,

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Speaker 1: what an intro that is. I'm going to have you

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Speaker 1: introduced me. Wherever I go, I'll be I'll be your

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Speaker 1: hype woman. Dude, I need a hype woman. We can

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Speaker 1: set up ringing people's backyards. Maybe I'll wrestle, wrestle neighbors

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Speaker 1: and stuff like that. Yeah, we can have a you know,

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Speaker 1: walk around. You can see what round we're on. We'll

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Speaker 1: deal with animals, We'll have snugglapp time, but like hype

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Speaker 1: in between exactly exactly like we're gonna go hard with arden,

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Speaker 1: but then that sounds a little bit in your indoing

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Speaker 1: the topic. I give you permission to say we're gonna

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Speaker 1: go hard with art and then and then when people

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Speaker 1: get weird about it, we're like, oh no, that's your problem.

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Speaker 1: We're just too innocent ladies going hard and your back,

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Speaker 1: your look at us, so naive and innocent, and you're

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Speaker 1: bringing all this weird energy. You're the one with the

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Speaker 1: creeper vibe, not me holding a sign up. That's your Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I do like the bikini and high heels. Look. It's

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Speaker 1: very It's like hel utility built a trucker hat right right,

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Speaker 1: It's like you've got a little bit of an outfit

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Speaker 1: for any occasion, come water, ballroom dancing, and gotta repair

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Speaker 1: an engine, anything, anything, you know what, I feel like.

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Speaker 1: It like shoved us, and it thought we weren't going

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Speaker 1: to shove back. And here's the reality. We're adaptable, down

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Speaker 1: and we will come to your backyard in a bikini

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Speaker 1: with their utility deal and we will go hard with hard, right,

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Speaker 1: go hard with art. Yeah. And I think this is

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Speaker 1: kind of the theme of the episode this this time around,

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Speaker 1: because we are talking about animals who are highly adaptive

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Speaker 1: with their sex and seduction. And you know you, I'm

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Speaker 1: not you. I think you're you're down with it. But

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Speaker 1: like some people may find it a little strange what

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Speaker 1: these animals do, but when you think about it, look,

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Speaker 1: they are getting creative. They're thinking outside of the box,

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Speaker 1: sometimes literally to to pass on their jeans. And that's

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Speaker 1: what it's all about. I'm not here to kink, shame walrus.

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Speaker 1: I come here to pooh poo some kind of a

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Speaker 1: just because I'm a human being, you think that I'm

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Speaker 1: do what they gotta do. That is actually our number

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Speaker 1: one rule for guests on this podcast is no kink shaming.

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Speaker 1: The walrus is we've got a sign. They're very touchy

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Speaker 1: so artn't tell me a little bit about your relationship

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Speaker 1: with animals. Thank you so much, I would say my

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Speaker 1: So then I got a male kitten who's so cute

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Speaker 1: So I grew up with a very sexualized animal household

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Speaker 1: supposed to be kind of spicy. Yeah, yeah, exactly, love it.

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Speaker 1: cutest little like squishy. It looks like a water balloon

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00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:17,600
Speaker 1: with a face. They're so cute. And they are called puggles.

422
00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:21,760
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I just I can't even come on.

423
00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:26,639
Speaker 1: It's just it's it sounds like a Jim Hanson character,

424
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:29,760
Speaker 1: like you know, we're going to puggle rock being out

425
00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:33,440
Speaker 1: with the Puggles. I'm looking that up right now. I'm

426
00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:35,280
Speaker 1: looking at up right now. I'm going to see this.

427
00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:39,800
Speaker 1: Oh my god, oh my god. It kind of looks

428
00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:44,280
Speaker 1: like a character that would be in the like the

429
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:47,879
Speaker 1: Star Wars like bar, like the bar scene, you know,

430
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:51,679
Speaker 1: like or the canteen. The canteen looks like Max Reebo

431
00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:55,600
Speaker 1: from Star Wars, that little like weird elephant thing. Oh

432
00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:57,600
Speaker 1: my god. And you can kind of see that like

433
00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:03,280
Speaker 1: the crazy the crazy Genitalia just getting at it. Well,

434
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:07,960
Speaker 1: this is fat like what I'm learning today exactly. And

435
00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:12,200
Speaker 1: you know, female a kidnas are not the only animals

436
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:15,120
Speaker 1: who get to be choosy when it comes to sperm,

437
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 1: so a little less cute, but still very interesting. Dung

438
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:23,920
Speaker 1: flies are found all over the Northern hemisphere, and as

439
00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:27,840
Speaker 1: their name very rudely implies, they love dung I mean

440
00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:32,119
Speaker 1: that they love everybody's got their own thing, yeah, exactly.

441
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:37,720
Speaker 1: And females have sperm stores in her vaginal tract that

442
00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:43,200
Speaker 1: keeps sperm house before it reaches her egg. And this

443
00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:47,560
Speaker 1: is these like sperm storage containers become a sort of

444
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:52,320
Speaker 1: sperm thunderdome where male dung flies will try to displace

445
00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:55,760
Speaker 1: other male sperm and the one with the best sperm

446
00:26:55,800 --> 00:27:00,080
Speaker 1: wins in this like sperm thunderdome. In the female we

447
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:02,399
Speaker 1: all are taught to be so uptight like when we were,

448
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:04,040
Speaker 1: you know, at least I grew up in a world

449
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:06,879
Speaker 1: that was very sort of buttoned down about it. And

450
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:10,480
Speaker 1: it's like it's just like natural, the world is just bonkers.

451
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:12,919
Speaker 1: Just you know, do do what mother nature intended for

452
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:19,639
Speaker 1: you to do, Yeah, which is a sperm thunderdome. Exactly. Yeah,

453
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:24,320
Speaker 1: It's it's truly, it's truly incredible to me. And this

454
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:27,000
Speaker 1: is a little less relatable. I just had to share

455
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:29,159
Speaker 1: it with you because I was looking I found this

456
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:32,040
Speaker 1: on accident as I was doing the research for this show,

457
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:36,600
Speaker 1: and this I was like looking at different, like like

458
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 1: if there's interesting facts about different animal Genitalia. And I

459
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:45,960
Speaker 1: found that there are bull penis canes walking canes that

460
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:52,840
Speaker 1: people make out of bull penis. I so the the

461
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:58,560
Speaker 1: the mental wiring, that's like, that's going to like procure that,

462
00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 1: it's going to give your hard earned money. It's like, no,

463
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:04,000
Speaker 1: I need that, and like, I think you need to

464
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,640
Speaker 1: walk like I am the man. It's almost the equivalent

465
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:08,879
Speaker 1: of having the balls hanging on the back of your truck.

466
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:12,440
Speaker 1: But I felt like a walking cane, like a dapper adapper.

467
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 1: It's a it's a dress, a gussied up version of

468
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:19,359
Speaker 1: truck nuts, for sure. It's the black tie. Where is

469
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:23,400
Speaker 1: the oscars meeting the queen? But you still want exactly

470
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:28,440
Speaker 1: This is from Fashionable Canes dot com. This is bull

471
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:33,119
Speaker 1: Penis tourist handle walking cane for the lolo price of

472
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:37,639
Speaker 1: nine dollars. Hashtag worth at worth it and this is

473
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:40,960
Speaker 1: I love the description. This is a genuine bull Penis cane.

474
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:44,320
Speaker 1: This cane has been used for hundreds of years. It

475
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 1: represents good stamina and strength. This is a collector's cane

476
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:52,240
Speaker 1: that is a must for any cane collector. A taxidermy

477
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 1: process is used to sterilize and properly cure the tissue.

478
00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 1: The organ is stretched over a metal rod to make

479
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 1: it sturdy. Brass tip with rubber tip included. Gotta get

480
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 1: gotta get that traction. It doesn't even look like I mean,

481
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:10,120
Speaker 1: I guess it's a penis, but you wouldn't look at it.

482
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:14,200
Speaker 1: And no, I'm more penis right, like just sort of

483
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 1: your stroll around with shaped But no, it's like it

484
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 1: looks like it's look honestly looks like a giant slim gym,

485
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 1: which kind of upsets me to saying it. Yeah, I mean,

486
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:26,640
Speaker 1: if you think about it, like how dogs often chew

487
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:30,480
Speaker 1: the boy sticks. Yeah, it's made out of that is

488
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 1: also made out of. I mean, there's many uses apparently

489
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:38,720
Speaker 1: horrible penis um. One of them is cruising around town

490
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:45,120
Speaker 1: in style. Yes, it's fantastic. I love it. Human penises

491
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:49,040
Speaker 1: are lacking in something a bone. Most mammals, including our

492
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:53,240
Speaker 1: primate relatives, have a penis bone called a baculum. Even

493
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:57,920
Speaker 1: our close relatives, the chimpanzee, have a penis bone. So

494
00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:02,560
Speaker 1: why not humans? Why didn't Mother Nature throw us a bone? Well,

495
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 1: humans simply don't have sex long enough or frequently enough

496
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:10,000
Speaker 1: to need the extra support. Mammals who have more prominent

497
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 1: baculums tend to mate for longer durations, like walruses who

498
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 1: have marathon underwater copulations with multiple females. Chimpanzees who mate

499
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:24,680
Speaker 1: very briefly have a much smaller vacuum, but males also

500
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:30,240
Speaker 1: mate with multiple females, sometimes within a short period of time. Humans,

501
00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:32,480
Speaker 1: on the other hand, seem to have evolved with a

502
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:36,840
Speaker 1: less frantic system of mating, with less intense mating sessions

503
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:40,719
Speaker 1: and fewer partners, so no need for the extra structural

504
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 1: support of a penis bone. When we return, we're talking

505
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:47,880
Speaker 1: about some of the most interesting mating rituals on the planet,

506
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 1: including a very prickly situation. Romance is subjective. Some people

507
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:02,800
Speaker 1: like aromatic candles and rose petals, some people like dancing,

508
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 1: Some people like a rubber chicken and car batteries. The

509
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 1: point is there are a whole lot of different ways

510
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 1: to get in the mood, and animals are no exception.

511
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:16,760
Speaker 1: So now that we have talked about very interesting equipment

512
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:19,560
Speaker 1: when it comes to mating, now I want to talk

513
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:24,720
Speaker 1: about mating rituals that are fascinating. And first I want

514
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 1: to talk about whiptail lizards, because this is a we're

515
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 1: getting into some real Jurassic Park stuff with these, because

516
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:39,240
Speaker 1: whiptail lizards are a species of lizards found in Arizona

517
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:43,720
Speaker 1: and New Mexico, and in a win for feminism, they

518
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:49,240
Speaker 1: are all female, not a not a single boy, and wow,

519
00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:54,000
Speaker 1: that's amazing. How do you reproduce? That is a good question,

520
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 1: as Jeff Goldbloom says, life, Uh, find the way, and

521
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:05,640
Speaker 1: so they actually reproduce via parthenogenesis, which means that they

522
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 1: can reproduce without male sperm, and so a lot of

523
00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 1: times what like a sexual reproduction is is basically cloning.

524
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 1: You create a clone of yourself and then give birth

525
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:21,320
Speaker 1: to that clone and then basically just have a clonal species.

526
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 1: But what's interesting about whippedtail lizards is their offspring aren't

527
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 1: exact clones. They actually have three sets of chromosomes that

528
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:34,320
Speaker 1: they can shuffle around kind of like shuffling the decks

529
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 1: of these chromosomes around, and they can create a genetically

530
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 1: unique offspring that is not a clone, and that allows

531
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 1: them to be an all female species and still maintain

532
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 1: some amount of genetic diversity by basically they have all

533
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 1: of this big library of chromosomes and just you know,

534
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 1: shuffle them up. That is so interesting. And when you

535
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 1: think about how many different species are on earth, just

536
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 1: that there's this whole variety and that we get so

537
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:09,240
Speaker 1: we just think we're the only ones doing. You know,

538
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:12,360
Speaker 1: we're out there going after our dreams and paying our

539
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 1: mortgages or whatever. You're putting gas in the car. It's

540
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 1: it's so interesting. There's all these little universes happening all

541
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 1: over exactly. And just because they reproduce a sexually does

542
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 1: not mean that there is no room for romance. Because

543
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:35,720
Speaker 1: these whiptail lizards will engage in what's called pseudocopulation, so

544
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:41,120
Speaker 1: they will essentially dry hump each other. And it's not

545
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:43,920
Speaker 1: just for fun, although I'm sure it is. It also

546
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 1: helps them regulate their hormones, which is more likely to

547
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 1: create a successful self fertilization. So it's basically getting them

548
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 1: in the mood to have a baby. I love this

549
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 1: and I'm a fast signing up for a whiptail lizard.

550
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 1: They're so thing also really charming about it, where there's

551
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 1: not really any competition sexual competition between them. They're just

552
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 1: all like, you know, I just need to get in

553
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:13,279
Speaker 1: the mood, and so they just all kind of end

554
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:16,719
Speaker 1: up helping each other out because it's mutually beneficial to

555
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:19,799
Speaker 1: you know, give each other backrubs and light some candles

556
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:22,799
Speaker 1: and lay some flower pedals out or whatever lizard you

557
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 1: get when you have all female world, they're like, got

558
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:29,400
Speaker 1: your sister takes a village. I got you a little

559
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:32,800
Speaker 1: a little heart shaped box full of like dead maggots

560
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:35,400
Speaker 1: for them to eat. You had a hard day, Karen,

561
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:40,280
Speaker 1: here's some here's some maggots for you. John at the office,

562
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 1: let me give your shoulder massage. Man, How much better

563
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:46,480
Speaker 1: would Golden Girls and Sex in the City Ben if

564
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:49,719
Speaker 1: it was like a whiptail lizards? Just you know, I

565
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 1: just did that show. I said no gifts, and I

566
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 1: brought the host Bridger a Golden Girls Clue game. I

567
00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:59,880
Speaker 1: played that. It was fun because I really wanted to

568
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:01,320
Speaker 1: say it, but I bought it for him. I was

569
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:03,120
Speaker 1: like it was out wrapped. I wanted to open it,

570
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:06,359
Speaker 1: like was it fun? Yes? Yes, my friend Dave Bell

571
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:09,200
Speaker 1: and Tom Rayman had had like a game night we

572
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:14,239
Speaker 1: played the Golden Girl's Clue. It's great. They're like objects

573
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:17,920
Speaker 1: like cherry pie or something. I don't I didn't watch

574
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 1: a lot of Golden Girls, so some of the references

575
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:23,719
Speaker 1: went over my head. But it was, I know, the

576
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 1: test of it, and I'm like, I get you there.

577
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 1: I know they had like a feather healed slipper, and

578
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 1: then we had like somebody's handbag and then there's like

579
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 1: you know, tissues or it's so fun great if they

580
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:38,359
Speaker 1: would be getting each other in the mood mine. One

581
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 1: complaint about the game is it doesn't come with a

582
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:44,399
Speaker 1: bag of Whether's originals, which I think would have like

583
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:48,800
Speaker 1: just fully sort of you know, got the full immersion.

584
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 1: You need some hard candy like to be able to

585
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:54,399
Speaker 1: like win when like that's the goal as you get

586
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 1: to go to into like Nana's handbag and get yourself

587
00:35:56,640 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 1: right exactly exactly. Speaking of going into Nana's handbag, I

588
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 1: want to talk about nuptial gifts, so which again a

589
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 1: little bit of a strange segue, but this is a

590
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:16,320
Speaker 1: thing that happens, especially with insects or arachnids like spiders,

591
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:20,360
Speaker 1: where they will give their partner prey item like a

592
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:24,320
Speaker 1: unlucky fly or something that they give to their mate

593
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:26,960
Speaker 1: so that their mate will be eating this while they're

594
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:29,920
Speaker 1: mating and it gives them more time to mate. So

595
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 1: hanging flies are predatory insect in the scorpion fly family.

596
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:40,759
Speaker 1: They actually look they also look like a crane fly,

597
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:43,879
Speaker 1: like is some kind of huge mosquito, but they are

598
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:46,760
Speaker 1: actually they can actually prey on crane flies, so they're

599
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:50,880
Speaker 1: much more, much more serious news. If somebody gave me

600
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:53,920
Speaker 1: a gift to snack on while I was mating, that

601
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 1: is a sure fire way to my heart. Yes, exactly,

602
00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:59,799
Speaker 1: And that's what these hanging flies do. They just give

603
00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:04,360
Speaker 1: the males give the female a snack to munch on

604
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:07,799
Speaker 1: while mating, which you know, it's just like hand like

605
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 1: hand in handing you a HOGI being like, all right,

606
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 1: you work on that while I I do my business

607
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,920
Speaker 1: down here. I love that when my blood sugar gets well,

608
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 1: pittycats gotta eat, you know. So have you brought me

609
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:23,799
Speaker 1: like a taco or something? I you know, I put

610
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:25,839
Speaker 1: me in a good mood. I'd feel relaxed. I feel

611
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:28,919
Speaker 1: like it could just be free. Great idea, right right,

612
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:31,799
Speaker 1: I mean I think that like having snacks is like

613
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:35,920
Speaker 1: an underrated seduction technique. A comfortable bed maybe like a

614
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 1: temper pedick with the nice settings like and then snacks

615
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 1: like a bowl of pretzels, maybe some in and out,

616
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:45,280
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Just like you know somewhere

617
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:49,080
Speaker 1: there's originals too. I do like where there's originals. And ironically,

618
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:51,319
Speaker 1: I have not had one in a long time, and

619
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 1: I know every time I've had one, I thought, well,

620
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 1: that's really buttery and good, like that's really good, rich

621
00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:59,839
Speaker 1: and satisfying, hard candy butter scotch. Yeah, I always get one.

622
00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 1: One I get like a sore throats, like, oh well,

623
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 1: I need this for my sore throat because I don't

624
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 1: like cough drops. They taste like ass. So you know

625
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:10,440
Speaker 1: where there's original, it's good for you. I you know

626
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 1: it's your it's your regal, exactly exactly. The game for

627
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:17,880
Speaker 1: the male hanging fly is to get the female a

628
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 1: large enough snack that she will eat it long enough

629
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:26,120
Speaker 1: for him to complete mating. So if it's too small, uh,

630
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:28,399
Speaker 1: and she finishes eating, she's like, all right, well I'm

631
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:31,879
Speaker 1: done with this, like fly burrito you gave me, Now

632
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:34,440
Speaker 1: get the hell out, and she'll like kick him off.

633
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:38,360
Speaker 1: But if it's big enough, he can complete mating, get

634
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 1: a bunch of his genetic material sent out, and once

635
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:46,840
Speaker 1: he's done. He will sometimes try to steal the gift

636
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 1: back from her. I mean that's where I'm like Bylicia

637
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:53,279
Speaker 1: hit the road jack and then he tries to re

638
00:38:53,560 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 1: gift it to another partner, gigantic and like, you've gotten

639
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:02,800
Speaker 1: at with me. So I'm chowing down to my burrito.

640
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:05,439
Speaker 1: You're getting at it. Whatever, do your thing. And then

641
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:08,440
Speaker 1: I'm still enjoying my burrito, which you've distracted me with,

642
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:10,839
Speaker 1: and then you try to pry it from my like

643
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:14,240
Speaker 1: slightly disinterested hands and then go bing it over to Katie.

644
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:17,640
Speaker 1: That's we got your we talk. We know, we got

645
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 1: your number. Yeah, we've got a group text. Yeah that

646
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:23,760
Speaker 1: that hanging fly. A group text has got to be

647
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 1: blowing up all the time with our Shenanians. People. They

648
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:30,920
Speaker 1: know you cannot regift a snack you've brought to a

649
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:36,399
Speaker 1: lover to woo a lover. People know people talk exactly. Now.

650
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 1: I want to talk about porcupine sex because one of

651
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:43,239
Speaker 1: the biggest questions people have with porcupines is how do

652
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:45,719
Speaker 1: they do it? How do they have sex? And the

653
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:51,479
Speaker 1: answer is very carefully. They're so cute, so cute. So

654
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:54,920
Speaker 1: there are many different species of porcupine. There's not just

655
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 1: one species of porcupine. There are Old World porcupines who

656
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:01,680
Speaker 1: have sort of like they have these black and white

657
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 1: striped spines, and they are actually monogamous, which is really cute. Um.

658
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:12,319
Speaker 1: But North American porcupines are free spirits and they are

659
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:18,360
Speaker 1: into really freaky mating rituals. So females are only fertile

660
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 1: for less than a day every year, so in that

661
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:24,719
Speaker 1: in those few hours, she's got to make the most

662
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:29,760
Speaker 1: of it. Um. So they used secretions to attract males,

663
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:32,799
Speaker 1: and once the males arrive, they can they often like

664
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 1: fight each other, have these gruesome porcupine battles. Window even

665
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:41,719
Speaker 1: if you are successful at this porcupine battle, you are

666
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 1: not guaranteed anything. She's still got a battery of tests

667
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:47,719
Speaker 1: for you to go through. One of them is a

668
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:50,520
Speaker 1: urine tests. She's gonna make your piano cup, well not

669
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 1: really piano cup. She's gonna make your pee on her.

670
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:57,360
Speaker 1: So the males will urinate on the female with a

671
00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:00,799
Speaker 1: special kind of like sexual urine that gives her a

672
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:04,640
Speaker 1: chance to smell the urine and determine whether he is

673
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 1: physically fit. She's like she's like a doctor, Like she

674
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 1: she's like going yeah, this seems this seems right, or

675
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:13,919
Speaker 1: she's like, no, you're you're dehydrated. You don't you know

676
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:16,719
Speaker 1: your your hormones are off. I don't like I don't

677
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:21,959
Speaker 1: like your levels here bonkers. Yes, And if she does

678
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 1: not approve of the male's urine, she will scream at him,

679
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:29,839
Speaker 1: shake the urine off, and chase him away. Game over,

680
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:33,000
Speaker 1: you fail your urine tests, you know, I mean, that's

681
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:36,120
Speaker 1: the right response. You can try to tell her, oh,

682
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:38,880
Speaker 1: it's just a poppyseed muffin, I trust me, believe me,

683
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:42,279
Speaker 1: but no, she's not gonna buy it's But if she's

684
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 1: into it, she will allow the mail to meete with her.

685
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 1: And now there is she is always in control because

686
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:53,279
Speaker 1: you the male cannot mate with a female unless she

687
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 1: has made it possible for him, because he will impale

688
00:41:57,040 --> 00:42:01,319
Speaker 1: himself on her spines. So what she does is she

689
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:04,879
Speaker 1: will curl her tail upward over her back and lay

690
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 1: the spines flat so the male can mount her without

691
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:11,919
Speaker 1: getting impaled. And if she doesn't do this, he will

692
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:16,799
Speaker 1: just impale himself. So that's crazy. Yeah. Yeah, it's like

693
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:20,840
Speaker 1: she's she's a strong, sexy doctor who's covered in spines.

694
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 1: I mean, I love that I love that with her.

695
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:27,319
Speaker 1: You know, we did talk about the old world porcupines

696
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:30,280
Speaker 1: and how they're monogamous, and it's like people people sometimes

697
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:32,440
Speaker 1: like the opposite of king shaming. I feel like it

698
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 1: is vanilla shaming, where you're like, oh, that's boring, you're

699
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:38,880
Speaker 1: too boring. Well, but consider this, Like, you know, the

700
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:41,840
Speaker 1: New world porcupines they have their style which is really cool,

701
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 1: but Old world porcupines will often mate shortly after the

702
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 1: female gives birth. Um again, the female has to allow

703
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:55,440
Speaker 1: the male to mate with her into it, but right,

704
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 1: but like, if she's into it, they will mate. And

705
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:01,840
Speaker 1: there's actually no reproductive reason for this mating because she's

706
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 1: not fertile after she gives birth. So the just to

707
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 1: strengthen their bond because they love each other. They're porcupines,

708
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:15,359
Speaker 1: you know, They're just two porcupines and love right exactly exactly.

709
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:18,759
Speaker 1: And I think that's that's like just as fascinating as

710
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:21,719
Speaker 1: like the weird, kinky porcupine stuff. Is just like that

711
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 1: they have this monogamous bond and they're like, hey, look,

712
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:28,080
Speaker 1: you know we've got you know, the kids asleep. You

713
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:31,800
Speaker 1: know what that means, It's time get over here. It's time.

714
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:37,399
Speaker 1: Sometimes spikes are in a much more unfortunate location. When

715
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 1: it comes to mating, male cats have an infamously barbed penis.

716
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:46,240
Speaker 1: Their penis is covered in tiny caratin barbs which scrape

717
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:49,680
Speaker 1: the inside of the female cats vagina. This can both

718
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:52,880
Speaker 1: help remove the sperm of the male's competitors, and it

719
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 1: also stimulates the female in a way that triggers hormones

720
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 1: to help her ovulate. So it sounds like the female

721
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:02,480
Speaker 1: is get in the rough end of the stick. But

722
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 1: is mating really unpleasant for the female. There's some evidence

723
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:11,320
Speaker 1: that mating can cause discomforting cats of particularly unhappy female

724
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 1: may lash out and attack her mate. But some species

725
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 1: of big cats, such as lions, cougars, and leopards, all

726
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:21,880
Speaker 1: of whose male sports barbed penises, have high rates of

727
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:24,920
Speaker 1: mating that seemed to be too excessive to be purely

728
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:29,319
Speaker 1: for reproduction. Female lions, when in heat can sometimes made

729
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:33,440
Speaker 1: up to one hundred times a day with multiple partners,

730
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:37,000
Speaker 1: which may indicate that she either enjoys mating or reaps

731
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:40,320
Speaker 1: some benefit. When we return, we're going to talk about

732
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:51,360
Speaker 1: some truly dangerous mating habits and fatal attractions. In French

733
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 1: la petit mort means the little death, and it's often

734
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:59,800
Speaker 1: a phrase used to describe orgasm. Basically, la petite mort

735
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:04,759
Speaker 1: refers to a brief break with consciousness or transcendence from

736
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 1: your conscious state, which has also been likened to the

737
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:11,719
Speaker 1: feeling after sex. But in some animals, la petite more

738
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:16,400
Speaker 1: that little death is a bit more permanent. Now I

739
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 1: want to talk about fatal attraction, and this is of

740
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 1: course there's always very uh. We love the tales of

741
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:30,800
Speaker 1: fim fatals in in literature and movies. Um, but nature

742
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:34,279
Speaker 1: is just tops all of that. You can't there's no

743
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 1: like fim fatal Stephen King character or you can't. You

744
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:42,160
Speaker 1: can't compete with nature. She's got she's got the Yeah,

745
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:45,439
Speaker 1: she's got the most horrific soap opera you've ever seen. First,

746
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:48,759
Speaker 1: I want to talk about brown widow spiders because we know,

747
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:51,200
Speaker 1: we all know about the black widow and the whole

748
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:53,719
Speaker 1: Like she she will sometimes eat the mail I mean,

749
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 1: and I feel like she's given him a bad rap

750
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:58,839
Speaker 1: because a lot of spiders and a lot of insects

751
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 1: like praying mantis is will sometimes engage in sexual cannibalism,

752
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:06,879
Speaker 1: where they eat their partner after mating, but um black

753
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 1: widows don't always do that, they sometimes do, just as

754
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 1: pragmantis is don't always decapitate and eat their mate after

755
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:18,759
Speaker 1: um mating, but they sometimes do. But brown widows are

756
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:23,640
Speaker 1: really interesting because the males make a very interesting choice

757
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:26,640
Speaker 1: when it comes to mating. So brown widow males show

758
00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:31,919
Speaker 1: a very strong preference for older females, even though reproduction

759
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:36,239
Speaker 1: with the older females is riskier, so younger females are

760
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:40,400
Speaker 1: more fertile and less likely to eat the males after mating.

761
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:44,280
Speaker 1: Older females know what they want, and what they want

762
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 1: is possibly sex, but also to like have a snack

763
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:51,400
Speaker 1: after mating, which is you like the male spider um.

764
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 1: And take a look at that picture of the brown

765
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:56,680
Speaker 1: winds hard to even look at it. It's so gnarly.

766
00:46:57,280 --> 00:47:02,280
Speaker 1: He's this tiny, like this tiny little I compared to

767
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:07,640
Speaker 1: the female just just aty biddy less than fourth her size,

768
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:10,879
Speaker 1: So he stands no chance if she decides to eat them,

769
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:15,840
Speaker 1: that's it game over. And these older like cougar females,

770
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 1: these sexy older women love to eat the males. Yes

771
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:23,920
Speaker 1: they do, yes, But and so researchers thought, okay, obviously

772
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:26,640
Speaker 1: the males are gonna go for younger females because they

773
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:30,920
Speaker 1: don't eat males as much. But oh contraire, the males

774
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:34,680
Speaker 1: seem to like to live dangerously with these sexy older women.

775
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:39,760
Speaker 1: Get those kids, and they will mate much more often

776
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:44,640
Speaker 1: with the older females, and researchers aren't exactly sure why

777
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:47,560
Speaker 1: this is. I think it's because it's like sexy as hell,

778
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:51,400
Speaker 1: But it's possible that the older female brown widows have

779
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:55,279
Speaker 1: more powerful pheromones that help attract the males, so as

780
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 1: they're older, maybe they put out the signal. Yeah, put

781
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:02,240
Speaker 1: out that signal. But I love that because it's really

782
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:05,399
Speaker 1: kind of like subverts that Hollywood trope of, like the

783
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:08,880
Speaker 1: you know, young film Fatalit, like these spiders love an

784
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:11,880
Speaker 1: older lady even if he bites your head off. Sign

785
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:21,400
Speaker 1: me up. Another deadly liaison occurs with Anaconda's now Anaconda's

786
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:26,880
Speaker 1: these two photos. I cannot even it looks it looks

787
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:32,480
Speaker 1: a bit squishy. I gotta say. Anacondas are huge snakes

788
00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:37,480
Speaker 1: from South America, as we know from that documentary film Anaconda.

789
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:41,120
Speaker 1: They live in swamps and marshes. They're sort of slower

790
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:44,640
Speaker 1: on land, but they're great swimmers, they have no venom.

791
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:47,719
Speaker 1: They kill prey by wrapping around them and strangling them

792
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 1: to death. And females can grow up to be around

793
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 1: twenty feet long, which is six meters. Typically, they only

794
00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:58,960
Speaker 1: grow up to be a measly sixteen feet though, about

795
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:04,160
Speaker 1: five meters not that's not so bad. Males only grow

796
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:06,799
Speaker 1: up to be about ten feet or three meters long,

797
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:09,360
Speaker 1: so they are smaller than females by a good amount.

798
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:15,640
Speaker 1: When mating, females will waft out pheromones, which attracts males

799
00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:18,640
Speaker 1: and more than one, so they will form what's called

800
00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:22,240
Speaker 1: a breeding ball, which is a bunch of giant snakes

801
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:26,560
Speaker 1: wrapped around each other, like a big pile of giant snakes.

802
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:32,400
Speaker 1: Spaghetti not easy to look at. It's like spaghetti in

803
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:36,160
Speaker 1: a pot. Though you know what else? Python? Oh my god,

804
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:39,560
Speaker 1: it's not. They're not pythons. Though it's sort of inaccurate.

805
00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 1: I just had to do it for the acronym. It

806
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:46,120
Speaker 1: doesn't scare you that photo. It doesn't scare me because

807
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:49,600
Speaker 1: they're gonna be too preoccupied mating to like try to

808
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:53,800
Speaker 1: strangle me. I would say it's unappetizing, like it makes

809
00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:57,320
Speaker 1: me not want to have like you know, pina or

810
00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:01,000
Speaker 1: spaghetti or you know kind of the squitting pasta. I

811
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:04,880
Speaker 1: will wait on that after looking at the photos. But

812
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:09,040
Speaker 1: they in this breeding ball, these snakes will wrap around

813
00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:12,080
Speaker 1: each other and the males will compete to try to

814
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:15,080
Speaker 1: get their sperm to reach the female, and they'll even

815
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 1: try to like push out the other male's sperm if

816
00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:23,640
Speaker 1: they've already mated with the female. And they also the

817
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:26,960
Speaker 1: males have what's called a pelvic spur, which is a

818
00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:31,280
Speaker 1: claw located near the kloaco which, as we talked about before,

819
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:34,280
Speaker 1: kloake is that hole that kind of does it all, um,

820
00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:37,400
Speaker 1: I don't want to spur near there. But that spur

821
00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:41,440
Speaker 1: is actually the remnant of hind legs that these animals

822
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:43,840
Speaker 1: used to have because they lost their legs to become

823
00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:47,399
Speaker 1: the snake or danger noodles as we like to call

824
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:50,480
Speaker 1: them on the show. And they use this pelvic spur

825
00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:53,920
Speaker 1: to like tickle the female and like stroke the female.

826
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:57,160
Speaker 1: But which is nice, but it can also be used

827
00:50:57,200 --> 00:50:59,520
Speaker 1: to fight other males or try to shove them off.

828
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:04,720
Speaker 1: So fascinating. Yeah, yeah, very It's again very interesting tools

829
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:08,400
Speaker 1: that that these males have. Some males will get lucky

830
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:11,359
Speaker 1: and get their way to the female. Um, but some

831
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 1: will get a little unlucky. They'll strike out and they

832
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:18,719
Speaker 1: will get eaten by the female who's probably pretty hungry

833
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:22,880
Speaker 1: after all of the mosh pit mating and like, researchers

834
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:28,480
Speaker 1: have found whole snakes inside of these female anacondas and

835
00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:32,920
Speaker 1: it is indeed a male anaconda that they figure probably

836
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:35,960
Speaker 1: you know, just got eaten during one of these big

837
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:39,359
Speaker 1: mating balls. I mean, it reminds me. Did you watch

838
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:43,239
Speaker 1: the documentary Wild Wild Country and Sheila the head, like

839
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:45,480
Speaker 1: the lady that was sort of the head of the cult. Oh,

840
00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:48,880
Speaker 1: I don't think so. Which was this about um Rajnish

841
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:53,239
Speaker 1: she's up in Portland. Oh no, I haven't seen this documentary.

842
00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:57,080
Speaker 1: It's really good. But like she was just charming but

843
00:51:57,280 --> 00:52:00,800
Speaker 1: top like a top head and like the number two

844
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:03,680
Speaker 1: of this and I feel like I feel like she

845
00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:06,040
Speaker 1: could she had like the temperament. I mean, she was

846
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:09,239
Speaker 1: kind of terrifying and adorable at the same time. It

847
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:12,000
Speaker 1: was like, Wow, she could eat somebody and she might

848
00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:14,759
Speaker 1: need somebody. Yeah, it's sort of it's sort of like, Oh,

849
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:20,480
Speaker 1: another another documentary that the Tiger King documentary Carol Baskin right,

850
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:24,960
Speaker 1: she's like she's so charming and yeah, you know, but

851
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:27,880
Speaker 1: like she she definitely like she definitely ate her husband

852
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:30,840
Speaker 1: of her husband. I know that is I mean, that

853
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:37,360
Speaker 1: is just absurd. Yeah, okay, me dressed like a tiger

854
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:41,200
Speaker 1: and eat my husband. You don't you can't believe you

855
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:45,280
Speaker 1: read online she like burps like a whole Famer exactly.

856
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:48,680
Speaker 1: She burps like like the whole Famer and then looks

857
00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:51,160
Speaker 1: like the guy Robert Durrs', like I did it. I

858
00:52:51,239 --> 00:52:54,440
Speaker 1: killed him all picks a little bit of mustache out

859
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:58,000
Speaker 1: from between her two for sure. For you know, something

860
00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:03,400
Speaker 1: happened out in that backyard for sure. So too and

861
00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:07,319
Speaker 1: are very naughty show about mating. About the birds and

862
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:09,360
Speaker 1: the bees. I thought we could talk about some bees.

863
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:13,080
Speaker 1: So I want to talk about Dawson's burrowing bees. I

864
00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:16,560
Speaker 1: love bees. I think they're adorable. These are no exception there,

865
00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:20,520
Speaker 1: these little fuzz balls that buzz around. Um. They can

866
00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:24,040
Speaker 1: also be found in Australia. Don't they look cuddly? They

867
00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:28,960
Speaker 1: look they're very cute, you know. I I um, I

868
00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:31,600
Speaker 1: would cuddle a bee like if it was safe for

869
00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:35,319
Speaker 1: the bee. Um. But unfortunately, when they sting you. It

870
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:38,239
Speaker 1: also like with honey bees, not with all bees, um,

871
00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:40,040
Speaker 1: but like with honey bees, when they sting you, the

872
00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:43,680
Speaker 1: stinger actually comes out, and the bleeding that they suffer

873
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:47,040
Speaker 1: after stinging you actually is mortal. Yeah, and so I

874
00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:49,960
Speaker 1: feel really bad, Like actually, for the first time in

875
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:53,400
Speaker 1: my life, I got stung by a bee last week,

876
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:56,759
Speaker 1: and I start like it hurts, Yeah, it hurts a

877
00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:59,800
Speaker 1: little bit. That the worst part was that I then

878
00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:06,719
Speaker 1: like I don't right, I felt so bad, buddy, Like

879
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:09,160
Speaker 1: you didn't need to stay. I wasn't gonna oh cheese

880
00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:12,799
Speaker 1: now now now you did not I was. I would

881
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:14,839
Speaker 1: have put you, I would have picked you, carried you

882
00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:19,960
Speaker 1: to the nearest flower, and you didn't have It actually

883
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:22,239
Speaker 1: didn't hurt that bad because it was on a fingertip.

884
00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:24,200
Speaker 1: And also like what you want to do is like

885
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:26,839
Speaker 1: scrape it away as quickly as you can, just kind

886
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:30,040
Speaker 1: of like flick the singer out and that way because

887
00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:34,560
Speaker 1: it can keep injecting venom. Like the longer the stinger is,

888
00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:37,600
Speaker 1: the longer the singer is, the more venom you're gonna get. UM.

889
00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:40,080
Speaker 1: So like you kind of like very very quickly, like

890
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:42,960
Speaker 1: you don't want to like um squeeze the area too much.

891
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:45,360
Speaker 1: You don't want to really like shove your fingernails and

892
00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:47,600
Speaker 1: then try to like because then like by tugging on

893
00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:50,040
Speaker 1: the actual sort of meaty part of the stinger, you

894
00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:53,000
Speaker 1: can actually push like squirt more venom into it. So

895
00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:55,560
Speaker 1: you want to like like just take a fingernail or

896
00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:58,359
Speaker 1: credit card and just kind of like swoop it, you know,

897
00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:01,880
Speaker 1: just scrape it off, just a little flick. It should

898
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:04,560
Speaker 1: should come right out if it's in a an accessible area,

899
00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:06,960
Speaker 1: and then just like rense your finger off with some

900
00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:09,640
Speaker 1: some cool water, wash it off, and then it should

901
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:12,239
Speaker 1: I mean, like it's sometimes it's in a place where

902
00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:14,080
Speaker 1: it's going to be worse. But yeah, it wasn't that bad.

903
00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:17,760
Speaker 1: But yeah I did feel guilty for the poor little bee.

904
00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:23,160
Speaker 1: But these bees, these Dawson's burrowing bees, are found in

905
00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:27,040
Speaker 1: Australia and they are not like honey bees. They actually

906
00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:32,320
Speaker 1: do not form hives. They, like many species of wild bees,

907
00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:37,160
Speaker 1: are solitary and each female will reproduce on her own

908
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:40,760
Speaker 1: in her own nest. Now, just because they're solitary breeders

909
00:55:40,760 --> 00:55:43,960
Speaker 1: doesn't mean they aren't sort of communal, because they do

910
00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:48,680
Speaker 1: form these like big almost like an apartment complex of burrows.

911
00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:50,719
Speaker 1: Like it's like the ground and you see a bunch

912
00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:53,160
Speaker 1: of holes in the ground and there it's like a

913
00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:56,680
Speaker 1: it's a it's a bee apartment. Um, you know, welcome

914
00:55:56,719 --> 00:56:00,440
Speaker 1: to what was that? What was the apartment? Like corny

915
00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:04,840
Speaker 1: soap opera comic, like three B apartment? Apartment three B?

916
00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:09,000
Speaker 1: Is it? I think three B? Yeah, but this is

917
00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:13,719
Speaker 1: like apartment like hundred bees. I love the idea of

918
00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:17,960
Speaker 1: the apartment. Yeah, and alright, just like buzzing around, like

919
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:21,319
Speaker 1: like hey, Barbara, and you're just buzzing. But yeah, So

920
00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:25,120
Speaker 1: the females, like in when they reproduce, the females will

921
00:56:25,160 --> 00:56:29,360
Speaker 1: actually dig a pretty deep burrow, uh lay their eggs

922
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:32,000
Speaker 1: which will develop into larva, and they provide them with

923
00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:35,080
Speaker 1: food and then the larva grow and then they crawl

924
00:56:35,160 --> 00:56:37,080
Speaker 1: up and emerge from the holes. And it's actually, to

925
00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:39,879
Speaker 1: me really cute to see these little bees coming like poke,

926
00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:41,759
Speaker 1: they poked their little fuzzy heads out of the hole.

927
00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:45,360
Speaker 1: They're like, oh, here's the thing. Male bees will actually

928
00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:50,640
Speaker 1: emerge before the females, and the females as they emerge,

929
00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:54,120
Speaker 1: the competition to get access to the female is very

930
00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:58,200
Speaker 1: fierce and the males will start fighting each other and

931
00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:00,960
Speaker 1: they once a female emerge. It's like when it's early

932
00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:03,719
Speaker 1: on in the breeding and everyone's competing all at once

933
00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:06,439
Speaker 1: and there's only like a few females, and like all

934
00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:09,760
Speaker 1: of these males they will form these big breeding balls

935
00:57:09,840 --> 00:57:13,839
Speaker 1: much like the anaconda's, but even more violent, where they

936
00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:17,840
Speaker 1: will decapitate each other, fight and claw their way just

937
00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:22,840
Speaker 1: these like this like deadly ball of horny bees. I

938
00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:26,880
Speaker 1: don't want a deadly ball of horny and they like

939
00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:29,960
Speaker 1: it's literally looks like a battle field with all these

940
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:33,560
Speaker 1: like bees, like some of them are like decapitated, and

941
00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:38,360
Speaker 1: it's nobody wants that. I don't want that. He wants that.

942
00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:43,640
Speaker 1: It's just complete, complete pandemonium. Can you just be a

943
00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:46,680
Speaker 1: little more patient, you know, you just chill it out,

944
00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:51,080
Speaker 1: Like you don't need an angry mass of a ball

945
00:57:51,160 --> 00:57:56,280
Speaker 1: of horny fighting bees right right, And they look they

946
00:57:56,320 --> 00:57:59,200
Speaker 1: look so fuzzy and cute, and I don't these these

947
00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:02,880
Speaker 1: little sweet cutie pies. But then they just they horn

948
00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:06,520
Speaker 1: it out on the battlefield and it is like they

949
00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:09,200
Speaker 1: can accidentally like they're trying to mate with each other,

950
00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:12,360
Speaker 1: and they can accidentally like behead their own mate in

951
00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:16,040
Speaker 1: their fears attempt to like try to be the one

952
00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:19,720
Speaker 1: that gets to me. It's truly terrifying, you know, So

953
00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:22,480
Speaker 1: think about that when you know what, I feel that

954
00:58:22,520 --> 00:58:25,080
Speaker 1: I've learned my I feel like I've learned my lesson,

955
00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:28,720
Speaker 1: and I will think about that. To be fair, though,

956
00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:32,480
Speaker 1: a little little honey bees like their their whole system

957
00:58:32,560 --> 00:58:35,840
Speaker 1: is much more civilized where they have, you know, their

958
00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:38,680
Speaker 1: whole hive structure. And it is interesting because like when

959
00:58:38,720 --> 00:58:42,840
Speaker 1: you see sort of the alternative to you sociality. So

960
00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:44,960
Speaker 1: that's when you have this hive structure where you have

961
00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:48,800
Speaker 1: one queen that reproduces and all these sister bees um

962
00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:51,600
Speaker 1: that are all related and working together to ensure the

963
00:58:51,640 --> 00:58:54,800
Speaker 1: success of the hive, but they're not necessarily reproducing. It

964
00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:57,720
Speaker 1: does make that seem like a lot less unfair when

965
00:58:57,720 --> 00:59:01,200
Speaker 1: you realize, like an other like solid Harry Beak populations,

966
00:59:01,240 --> 00:59:04,360
Speaker 1: like the competition to make is so fierce and so deadly.

967
00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:07,040
Speaker 1: It's like, you know, the hive structure can actually be

968
00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:10,200
Speaker 1: a quite successful strategy. They just have to play it

969
00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:13,480
Speaker 1: cool when they're the big horny ball at the end

970
00:59:14,560 --> 00:59:19,360
Speaker 1: playing cool. You know, nobody nobody likes someone who comes

971
00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:23,320
Speaker 1: to the b orgy too early and too eager. Yeah,

972
00:59:23,520 --> 00:59:25,840
Speaker 1: you got cool. Let's just play. You's gotta like slow

973
00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:27,800
Speaker 1: your role a little bit. It's play a little bit

974
00:59:27,840 --> 00:59:31,080
Speaker 1: hard to get exactly exactly I want to. I want

975
00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:34,440
Speaker 1: to teach these bees sort of the art of you know,

976
00:59:34,720 --> 00:59:36,439
Speaker 1: just like like you got you know, we were talking

977
00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:39,400
Speaker 1: about your cats earlier, like they know the art of seduction.

978
00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:42,200
Speaker 1: You gotta like play it hot and cold. Please bees

979
00:59:42,760 --> 00:59:46,720
Speaker 1: coming hot? You like, I am not a sure thing.

980
00:59:47,040 --> 00:59:49,360
Speaker 1: A little bit of yeah, hold off on some of

981
00:59:49,360 --> 00:59:52,680
Speaker 1: the horny decapitations, just a little bit, a little just

982
00:59:52,720 --> 00:59:57,560
Speaker 1: it's just a bit well Arden, thank you so much

983
00:59:57,640 --> 01:00:00,560
Speaker 1: for joining me. I can't believe how anything, as you know,

984
01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:03,840
Speaker 1: I mean, I have to talk to you. It's really

985
01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:08,400
Speaker 1: like what a fascinating I will never forget that panis

986
01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:12,120
Speaker 1: that foreheaded penis and also looking at it, it's a

987
01:00:12,120 --> 01:00:15,120
Speaker 1: little baby, I mean, just the whole thing. The puggle.

988
01:00:16,240 --> 01:00:18,320
Speaker 1: Those are cute. I feel that I've learned a lot

989
01:00:18,560 --> 01:00:21,680
Speaker 1: and uh and I appreciate that, and I appreciate you

990
01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:25,320
Speaker 1: hig on of course, and you know, but the inspiration

991
01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:29,160
Speaker 1: for this episode was reading Little Miss Little Compton, and

992
01:00:29,240 --> 01:00:34,680
Speaker 1: again I love the chapter on sex education. It's hilarious

993
01:00:34,840 --> 01:00:38,360
Speaker 1: if you're if you've ever had a childhood you know,

994
01:00:38,920 --> 01:00:42,600
Speaker 1: which I think most of us have somebody childhood some

995
01:00:42,600 --> 01:00:45,080
Speaker 1: some of us, you know, like this is it's just

996
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Speaker 1: a wonderful book. It's so fun and funny. And I

997
01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:50,440
Speaker 1: think it's like, I love the way that you capture

998
01:00:50,520 --> 01:00:55,600
Speaker 1: just the inevitable awkwardness of childhood. You know, I've ever

999
01:00:55,760 --> 01:00:59,560
Speaker 1: I feel like everybody, everybody's families has their works, and

1000
01:00:59,680 --> 01:01:02,720
Speaker 1: this is mine, and but that you don't maybe you

1001
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1002
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Speaker 1: for just the world right now. I think it's fun

1003
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Speaker 1: and lighthearted, but I think there's a lot of hearts

1004
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Speaker 1: to it. And um, we're actually doing a thing where

1005
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Speaker 1: we're going to have a book release party virtually at

1006
01:01:19,280 --> 01:01:21,800
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1007
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1008
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Speaker 1: Wrong Missy. She is Missy, So she and I are

1009
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Speaker 1: doing it together. It's just gonna be my co host

1010
01:01:29,800 --> 01:01:32,200
Speaker 1: and we're gonna read from the book. And um, because

1011
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Speaker 1: I can't tour right now, so this is this is

1012
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1017
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1018
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Speaker 1: gonna come on, Rob Benedict from Supernatural he plays God

1019
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1025
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1026
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Speaker 1: on YouTube for one week afterwards, so you can watch

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1031
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Speaker 1: not even just a signature. If you want me to

1032
01:02:35,320 --> 01:02:39,760
Speaker 1: be like, hey, Katie and watch for those horny killer bees.

1033
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Speaker 1: You can keep a page third Team, but you can

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1037
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Speaker 1: request a book that says, Hey, Katie, watch out for

1038
01:02:53,200 --> 01:02:55,800
Speaker 1: those horny horny bees. You know what. I feel like

1039
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Speaker 1: that's your destiny. I feel like that used to happen.

1040
01:02:58,520 --> 01:03:01,760
Speaker 1: I think we can make that happen. And so where

1041
01:03:01,800 --> 01:03:05,160
Speaker 1: can people find you online? Where what's your socials? I'm

1042
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1048
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Speaker 1: and I'm so grateful to be part of this. Thank

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Speaker 1: you so much for having me. This is so fun. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: thank you for being here. And you can find us

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Speaker 1: on the internet at Creature Feature Pod on Instagram, at

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Speaker 1: Creature feet Pod on Twitter. That's f e A T

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Speaker 1: not FET. That is something very different and you can

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Speaker 1: find me on Twitter at Katie Golden's just for my

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Speaker 1: Katie thoughts not necessarily related to the show, and as always,

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Speaker 1: I'm also at pro bird Writes, where I you know,

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Speaker 1: it's not that I'm a real bird, I'm not like

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Speaker 1: a bird in a in a ski in human suit

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Speaker 1: masquerading as a human to indoctrinate you to accept birds

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Speaker 1: as our new overlords, which is exactly what someone would

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Speaker 1: say if they're not any of those things. So, you know,

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Speaker 1: go check it out. Thank you so much for listening

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Speaker 1: to the show. If you're enjoying it and you leave

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Speaker 1: a review, I will read it. I read all of them,

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Speaker 1: and I really appreciate them. All the kind words you

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Speaker 1: say really mean the world to me. Um Thank you

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Speaker 1: so much to the Space Classics for their super awesome song.

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Speaker 1: Excelumina Creature Feature is a production of I Heart Radio.

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Speaker 1: For more podcasts like the one you just heard, visit

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Speaker 1: listening to one right now, aren't you see your next

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