Speaker 1: This was a case with shocking violence. I, like everyone else,
Speaker 1: wanted answers.
Speaker 2: Somebody needs to speak for Moscow, and that turned out
Speaker 2: to be me.
Speaker 3: We're strong and we're not gonna let whatever you want
Speaker 3: to refer to him as break up our family or
Speaker 3: make us cold or heard in our hearts.
Speaker 4: This is the Idaho Massacre a production of KAT Studios
Speaker 4: and iHeartRadio, Season three, Episode eleven. After the Headlines, I'm
Speaker 4: Courtney Armstrong, a producer at KAT Studios, with Stephanie Leidecker,
Speaker 4: Alison Bankston, and Gabriel Castillo. After Brian Coberger pled guilty
Speaker 4: last July, his name and face have slowly begun to
Speaker 4: fade from the headlines. News feeds every hour of every
Speaker 4: day have grown quiet. The horror he unleashed at the
Speaker 4: University of Idaho still casts a shadow, but finally it's
Speaker 4: starting to drift into the distance. We've been reporting on
Speaker 4: the Brian Cobeger case since the very beginning, from that
Speaker 4: first breaking news alert to every twist and turn that followed,
Speaker 4: and now, as his story reaches its final chapter, ours
Speaker 4: does two. In this episode, we hear from Moscow mayor
Speaker 4: Betge on how his town once bucolic and quiet was
Speaker 4: forever changed on November thirteenth, twenty twenty two, and how
Speaker 4: they're finding ways to move forward. We're also joined again
Speaker 4: by Kaylee Gonsalvez's brother Stephen, who shares what it's been
Speaker 4: like for his family now that the case is finally over.
Speaker 4: But first, Stephanie Leideker, crime analyst, Body Movin and I
Speaker 4: reflect on our own journeys throughout this story and how
Speaker 4: covering the murders of Madison Mogen, Kayleie Gonzalvez, Xana Kernodle,
Speaker 4: and Ethan Chapin have affected each of us. Here's Body, I.
Speaker 1: Think acknowledging the emotional toll that this has taken on
Speaker 1: everyone as important in that even if you're approaching this
Speaker 1: case from an analytical standpoint, as I have really tried
Speaker 1: to do and not get emotional, vicarious trauma is still
Speaker 1: a real thing.
Speaker 4: It's really hard to believe that it was three years
Speaker 4: ago because I remember so distinctly exactly when it happened.
Speaker 4: I mean, I remember that the Christmas lights were still on.
Speaker 4: I remember that the couch that they partied on was
Speaker 4: still outside, that the kids congregated on, and I definitely
Speaker 4: did not anticipate and could not have anticipated that it
Speaker 4: would end the way it did in the court, that
Speaker 4: it was a plead out up until the last minute,
Speaker 4: after all of the negotiations and glorious motions back and forth,
Speaker 4: that it ended with a whimper instead of a roar.
Speaker 5: I think when we started this project, I personally set
Speaker 5: out to almost disprove that Brian Coburger could possibly be
Speaker 5: the killer. It didn't make sense. You know, a PhD student,
Speaker 5: as we've talked about so much, a loving family, someone
Speaker 5: who had a lot of opportunity, and you know, listen
Speaker 5: this particular case, it didn't check any of the very
Speaker 5: air quote common themes. It didn't involve greed, revenge, or heartbreak.
Speaker 5: It just didn't check any of those boxes. And I
Speaker 5: think the fact that there didn't seem to be an
Speaker 5: obvious motive has always frankly kept us up at night.
Speaker 5: Brian Coberger has no real connection to any of the
Speaker 5: four victims, and to me, that remains shocking. And I
Speaker 5: think we were all scratching at trying to figure it
Speaker 5: out or trying to have it make sense. And I
Speaker 5: guess that's the unknowable journey that I guess we just
Speaker 5: won't get to because there is no obvious answer. These
Speaker 5: are four incredible humans who lost their lives seemingly senselessly,
Speaker 5: and it makes us think about just randomness or you know,
Speaker 5: crimes of opportunity. What does that mean? How is it
Speaker 5: possible that the person who was studying crime became the
Speaker 5: criminal himself. We still don't have a clear answer as
Speaker 5: to why, and I think that's going to be a
Speaker 5: bottomless pit for so many. And listen, we talk about
Speaker 5: this very often speaking of closure. It's it's this ripple effect.
Speaker 5: It's so many were affected by this, ourselves included. We're
Speaker 5: not related to any of the victims. You know, we
Speaker 5: don't know Madison Mogen directly. We don't know Kaylee Gonzalveez
Speaker 5: or Xanerkernodle or Ethan Shapin, even though our hearts are
Speaker 5: with their families. We've all been obsessed with understanding this better.
Speaker 5: And I guess the takeaway really is that we all
Speaker 5: care very much.
Speaker 1: Often we attached to a case because it resonates with
Speaker 1: something personal like injustice or loss, curiosity, or even just empathy,
Speaker 1: and once we identify why it mattered to us so much,
Speaker 1: on like a personal level. Maybe we can redirect that
Speaker 1: same level of empathy to something important moving forward to
Speaker 1: help us even move forward. I think it's important to
Speaker 1: remember why we cared. I.
Speaker 5: Like everyone else, wanted answers and was on the search.
Speaker 5: You know, we all teamed up pretty much immediately because
Speaker 5: it just seemed like this nightmare happening in some place
Speaker 5: so idyllic at such a perfect time in a young
Speaker 5: person's life, when everything is still ahead, that we all
Speaker 5: just got hyper invested. I think collectively, the whole country
Speaker 5: got hyper invested. This case ripped our hearts out, and
Speaker 5: that whole will remain right.
Speaker 1: I think this was a case with shocking violence, and
Speaker 1: it had this small town like backdrop, and for the
Speaker 1: first six weeks there was this who done it kind
Speaker 1: of mystery, and you know, the sleuthing culture that I've
Speaker 1: been a big part of, and the combination of those
Speaker 1: things made this case and very intriguing. And then Brian
Speaker 1: Cooper gets arrested and we learn that it's a smart
Speaker 1: criminology student, and it took on a whole new role,
Speaker 1: and then you know, we have all this legal drama
Speaker 1: and IgG being used in an open active case. It
Speaker 1: just made everything very intriguing.
Speaker 4: The pure innocence, not that anyone deserves any death, but
Speaker 4: they were not out stealing drugs or whatever you would.
Speaker 4: I mean, just like perfect innocence on the absolute precipice
Speaker 4: of the beginning of their lives. And anyone who's had
Speaker 4: that kind of group of friends, I think there was
Speaker 4: a relatability and even watching the videos, here's another reason
Speaker 4: I think it blew up because there was so much
Speaker 4: of them on social media. You could see them, and
Speaker 4: you can see their loves and they're dancing.
Speaker 1: One of the things that I think made this case
Speaker 1: blow up. It was this small town backdrop and this
Speaker 1: idyllic college experience that a lot of us really wish
Speaker 1: we would have had. This idyllic American town that has
Speaker 1: this amazing campus, the University of Idaho. Almost became the
Speaker 1: fifth victim because so many people that live in that
Speaker 1: town were being harassed and accosted by media.
Speaker 5: And the trauma itself of the event, just knowing that
Speaker 5: something so scary could happen so close. Remember, this is
Speaker 5: a small neck community where people send their children because
Speaker 5: it's so safe. That's where you're supposed to romp and
Speaker 5: have fun at university is because there's this implied safety,
Speaker 5: So just the fact that it's not the case is
Speaker 5: also proof that this kind of thing can happen anywhere.
Speaker 1: And then you know, you've got crazies out there like
Speaker 1: me wondering what's going on, probably calling the Moscow Police Department,
Speaker 1: incessantly asking for updates, wondering when the next press conference
Speaker 1: is coming, ceteracit et cetera. It must have been a
Speaker 1: lot for the City of Moscow to manage.
Speaker 4: The town of Moscow, Idaho, took an unimaginable turn when
Speaker 4: the murders at one one, two two King Roade occurred
Speaker 4: on November thirteenth, twenty twenty two. One of the people
Speaker 4: on the front lines was Moscow Mayor Art Betge. As
Speaker 4: the city faced an onslaught of national media attention in
Speaker 4: the aftermath of the murders and Brian Coberger's arrest, Mayor
Speaker 4: Betcky served as a crucial liaison between the community and
Speaker 4: the outside world. We spoke with Mayor Betgy to hear
Speaker 4: his first hand account of what it was like to
Speaker 4: lead a small college town through an unthinkable tragedy.
Speaker 6: When you became mayor, did you ever see your term
Speaker 6: going in this direction.
Speaker 2: Oh heck no. I was thinking, geez, four years of quiet,
Speaker 2: just housekeeping things going on would be nice. And turns
Speaker 2: out I made it for eleven months and thirteen days,
Speaker 2: and then what I never wanted to happen did November thirteenth.
Speaker 2: It was kind of a mediocre morning, kind of like
Speaker 2: the snow that had fallen before was kind of melting
Speaker 2: off in places, and just kind of the kind of day.
Speaker 2: I was returning from a trip to Costco thirty five
Speaker 2: miles away. Driving off the road, phone lights up with
Speaker 2: a text that said there's been homicide in Moscow. Four
Speaker 2: people have been murdered. And my first thought was, oh, brother,
Speaker 2: this is going to be really, really bad, And so
Speaker 2: got back to town and waited for more news. I
Speaker 2: didn't want to hinder the police in their investigation, so
Speaker 2: I just stayed right away from that and waited for
Speaker 2: more news to come, which it sort of trickled in
Speaker 2: for the most part unhelpfully.
Speaker 6: And what were your big duties in those early days
Speaker 6: when everything was kind of come into a head.
Speaker 2: Well, it's just provide the resources to the police that
Speaker 2: they need to do the investigation and make sure that
Speaker 2: the budget is freed up for the inevitable overtime and
Speaker 2: then stay right out of their way because they certainly
Speaker 2: have enough to do without having a politico looking over
Speaker 2: their shoulder. So after that it was turned into the
Speaker 2: point of somebody needs to speak for Moscow, and that
Speaker 2: turned out to be me.
Speaker 4: Let's stop here for a break. We'll be back in
Speaker 4: a moment. After the murders at one one two two
Speaker 4: King Road, the quiet town of Moscow, Idaho, was instantly
Speaker 4: flooded with national and local reporters, along with countless social
Speaker 4: media sleuths and tik talkers, all searching for answers about
Speaker 4: what happened to Madison Mogan, Kaylie Gonsalvez, Xana Kernodle, and
Speaker 4: Ethan Chapin. In the midst of the chaos, Moscow Mayor
Speaker 4: Art Betge stepped forward to help manage the media onslaught
Speaker 4: and protect law enforcement from its constant demain. Here's Mayor
Speaker 4: Art Betkey, joined by KAT Studios producer Alison Bankston.
Speaker 2: Now to start with, I'm a biochemist, i am not
Speaker 2: really a professional politician, and I'm certainly not a crisis communicator,
Speaker 2: so things were difficult.
Speaker 6: What was it like taking on this new role, especially
Speaker 6: coming from you know, working in biochemistry, and then all
Speaker 6: of a sudden, it's kind of like you're the spokesperson
Speaker 6: for the town dealing with this tragedy. What is it
Speaker 6: like to transition into something like that?
Speaker 2: Horrible, just awful. But a transition to an event like
Speaker 2: this is a lot different than a transition to something about, ooh,
Speaker 2: we're having a big festival in town or something like that.
Speaker 2: The major problem was dealing with the national media. The
Speaker 2: local folks are all very good, They have a vested
Speaker 2: interest in the community, and there are neighbors already and
Speaker 2: they understand. However, the national media, I don't know what's
Speaker 2: a good analogy. I suppose the national media is like
Speaker 2: a strip mine where they come in wreck havoc on
Speaker 2: the environment and then leave with a big mess behind them.
Speaker 2: And dealing with the national media, where they really care
Speaker 2: only for a SoundBite, is difficult. It's a daunting task,
Speaker 2: and trying to navigate that in a fashion that does
Speaker 2: not demean the magnitude of the event or harm those
Speaker 2: who are directly involved or even peripherally involved, is a
Speaker 2: really tough task. I didn't know many of the details
Speaker 2: of what went on and people asking with the implication
Speaker 2: that I'm hiding something when I really I avoided getting
Speaker 2: involved with the investigation so that when I said I
Speaker 2: don't know, I don't know because I deliberately isolated myself
Speaker 2: from the investigation and the evidence. So it was really
Speaker 2: terrible to try to explain these people who are going, well,
Speaker 2: we heard that, we haven't heard that. I don't know
Speaker 2: what to say, so you probably know more than I do,
Speaker 2: which was frequently the fact.
Speaker 6: I can't imagine someone just being like, you're hiding something.
Speaker 6: Especially with these investigations, everything has to be so tight
Speaker 6: lipped to protect the integrity of it. Sorry you had
Speaker 6: to go through that, well.
Speaker 2: Thank you. But I must give kudos to our police department.
Speaker 2: They weathered a lot of criticism. They were extremely tight lipped.
Speaker 2: They protected the evidence, they protected the case, They didn't
Speaker 2: say anything that would give away the direction of the
Speaker 2: investigation to alert the perpetrator, and frankly, they did a
Speaker 2: bang up job. It was interesting watching the emails come
Speaker 2: in where people were impugning the police department as being
Speaker 2: a bunch of Keystone cops, inept, unable, overwhelmed, useless, botching
Speaker 2: the investigation, and that went on until about December thirtieth,
Speaker 2: when the rest was made, at which point the tenor
Speaker 2: of the emails switched one hundred and eighty degrees. Brilliant
Speaker 2: job they did, so great? What perfect policing things like that.
Speaker 2: It's kind of people you all are just bonkers. And
Speaker 2: I don't think the prevalence of social media has helped
Speaker 2: one whit in any of this, where people can hide
Speaker 2: behind anonymous emails make the most egregious comments.
Speaker 6: What was it like when ron Coberger was arrested? When
Speaker 6: that news was revealed in Moscow? Did it feel like
Speaker 6: a weight was lifted off of everyone's shoulders? Can you
Speaker 6: kind of take me back to the moment that you
Speaker 6: found out that an arrest was me.
Speaker 2: I knew something was coming down the pike. I was
Speaker 2: alerted the day before that there would be something coming.
Speaker 2: Didn't say what, just prepare yourself. But when the news
Speaker 2: did come out, I swear there was a waft of
Speaker 2: a breeze coming down Main Street. That was a collective
Speaker 2: sigh of relief. And that pertains not only to the
Speaker 2: citizens of Moscow, but the students in attendance at the
Speaker 2: university here because after the Thanksgiving break a great many
Speaker 2: of them did not come back to town on the
Speaker 2: campus out of concern for their safety. Were starting to
Speaker 2: get pretty worried about what is the attendance at the
Speaker 2: university going to be at the start of the new semester.
Speaker 2: And I will say that students make up probably about
Speaker 2: a third of the population of Moscow. Is substantial. And
Speaker 2: so when the thirtieth of December rolled around the arrest
Speaker 2: was made, as I indicated, the tenor of everything changed drastically.
Speaker 2: And then when school started up the eight nine of
Speaker 2: January something like that, more students were back than had
Speaker 2: been in attendance at spring semester of the year before,
Speaker 2: and overall higher attendance at the university than in any
Speaker 2: of the past years. So really good. So having that
Speaker 2: arrest when it occurred, really changed the way people looked
Speaker 2: at things, and it was the start of some sort
Speaker 2: of return to normalcy for the city.
Speaker 6: Absolutely. And were you surprised that it was Brian Colberg
Speaker 6: or someone from a neighboring college or like or what
Speaker 6: did the community really think when they had saw this guy,
Speaker 6: like this is the person?
Speaker 2: Well, the first thing they said, well, who the hell
Speaker 2: is this guy? Nobody knew he wasn't on anybody's radar.
Speaker 2: It was just where did this guy come from? Everybody
Speaker 2: was bamboozo. So of course, the analogy I always use
Speaker 2: for this is from Lord of the Rings, where Sam
Speaker 2: and Frodo were marching across the plains of Mordor to
Speaker 2: ditch the Ring, and the Great Eye of Souran is
Speaker 2: sitting there looking looking all over the place, looking at him,
Speaker 2: looking at him, looking at him, you know, trying to
Speaker 2: spot him. And then the guys show up at the
Speaker 2: front gate to Mordor, and the Great I of Souran
Speaker 2: flipped instantly. Same thing happened here. So we had all
Speaker 2: this media attention about how inept and stupid we are,
Speaker 2: And then as soon as Coburger's name came up as
Speaker 2: a student at Washington State University over in Pullman, which
Speaker 2: is a short six miles away, the entire media attention
Speaker 2: flicked and was aimed square at Pullman. And it was
Speaker 2: a weird phenomenon. The amount of the jolting change that
Speaker 2: occurred at that point stunning, And I don't think Pullman
Speaker 2: I was quite ready for it, probably more so than
Speaker 2: we were when all of this happened. But still they
Speaker 2: got the media attention on them, and it was tough
Speaker 2: for them too.
Speaker 6: I can only imagine and for Moscow, for the community
Speaker 6: as a whole, how were they all impacted by this tragedy.
Speaker 2: The impact on the community was vast because Moscow is
Speaker 2: a pretty tightly knit town. So in Moscow you wind
Speaker 2: up with either you knew the students or you knew
Speaker 2: somebody who knew them, And so the whole town is
Speaker 2: directly or just slightly indirectly associated with the students who
Speaker 2: were murdered here. And it's something that you can't get
Speaker 2: away from. And so the impact here was vaster than
Speaker 2: it would have been in a larger city, right.
Speaker 6: Yeah, absolutely, And then how does the community feel about
Speaker 6: the plea deal.
Speaker 2: There's a bifurcation there where some people who are interested
Speaker 2: in retribution really wanted the death penalty. Other people who
Speaker 2: wanted the case closed were fine with the life sentences
Speaker 2: without a chance of ever getting out. Frankly, to me,
Speaker 2: a death penalty judgment would have generated an endless series
Speaker 2: of appeals which bring up the issues and the gory
Speaker 2: pictures and everything else again and again and again, inflicting
Speaker 2: further misery on the families. Friends, acquaintances of the murdered students,
Speaker 2: And what is the point if you get a death
Speaker 2: penalty you appeal for years. We've got one guy on
Speaker 2: death row who's been there for something like thirty years,
Speaker 2: And really, is there a whole lot of difference between
Speaker 2: life in prison without a chance for parole and the
Speaker 2: death penalty when you get right down to it, other
Speaker 2: than tormenting the family and friends in appeals cases for
Speaker 2: years and years. So I think the sooner that the
Speaker 2: key is thrown away and the perpetrator is in jail
Speaker 2: for good, that we can just scratch him off the
Speaker 2: list and say sit there and rot right.
Speaker 6: And then, for you personally, it's been almost three years
Speaker 6: since this horrible tragedy occurred. What does it feel like
Speaker 6: to finally have this case closed, to have the perpetrator
Speaker 6: in prison, and the thought of a lumin trial finally
Speaker 6: passed you?
Speaker 2: Well, I'm hoping that, like dropping a rock in a lake,
Speaker 2: you get ripples coming out, large ripples at first, and
Speaker 2: then they gradually abate, And I'm hoping for something like that.
Speaker 2: But I'm also aware that a case like this is
Speaker 2: going to spark media interest for a long long time
Speaker 2: and It's also going to be memorialized in a more
Speaker 2: special way around town. I'm sure every November thirteenth at
Speaker 2: the Memorial Garden that was established at the University of
Speaker 2: Idaho there will be ceremonies and remembrances that go on there.
Speaker 2: So it's not going to be forgotten. But I think
Speaker 2: over time we'll have learned the lessons. We'll treat each
Speaker 2: other well, because everybody is going to deal with this
Speaker 2: and grieve in their own fashion, and we should let
Speaker 2: everybody have their space to do so in their own way,
Speaker 2: and that's going to take time. The great Healer of
Speaker 2: all things, as it were.
Speaker 6: How do you want people to remember Moscow after all
Speaker 6: of this?
Speaker 2: Oh, I think we're resilient folks here and we will
Speaker 2: get back to doing what Moscow does best, which is
Speaker 2: providing a lovely, safe, inviting environment to everybody who lives here.
Speaker 2: And I do believe we'll get back to there. This
Speaker 2: isn't just a story. This involves real human beings, the families,
Speaker 2: the friends, and everyone directly and indirectly associated with these events.
Speaker 2: And just remember that and give people some slack to
Speaker 2: grow within themselves, change and respond to it all. So
Speaker 2: mostly just remember these were people.
Speaker 4: Let's stop here for a break. We'll be back in
Speaker 4: a moment. Madison Mogen, Kaylee Gonsalvez, Xana Kernodle, and Ethan
Speaker 4: Shapin were bright lights, kind, loving and full of promise.
Speaker 4: Their lives were stolen far too soon by an act
Speaker 4: of pure evil, and still their families are left grappling
Speaker 4: with the haunting question of why Why were their beloved
Speaker 4: children robed from them? Their lives cut short without reason
Speaker 4: or mercy. Unfortunately that answer may never come, and yet,
Speaker 4: through unimaginable loss, these families have shown extraordinary strength, finding
Speaker 4: ways to honor their loved ones and keep their memories alive.
Speaker 4: Here's Kaylee Gonsalvez's brother, Stephen Gonsalvez, sharing how the end
Speaker 4: of the case has impacted him and his family. He's
Speaker 4: joined by Kate Studios producer Alison Bankston, with.
Speaker 6: Coberger taking his plea deal. What has it been like
Speaker 6: these past few months, just kind of coming up for
Speaker 6: air after living in this horror for almost three years?
Speaker 6: What is it like to finally be at the end
Speaker 6: of it, to just start healing.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't know. It sucks. It never should have
Speaker 7: played out like this. I don't know. In some ways,
Speaker 7: we just I don't know.
Speaker 3: I feel like I don't get closure from three hots
Speaker 3: and a cot, and this guy gets a gym membership
Speaker 3: for free for the rest of his life. And every
Speaker 3: time I go to work and clock in and clock out,
Speaker 3: those taxes go to him.
Speaker 7: It's a joke. It's really unfortunate. I don't know if
Speaker 7: closure is the right word.
Speaker 3: I guess the silver lining of that would be that
Speaker 3: he's not still out.
Speaker 7: He can't do this to any other human or any family.
Speaker 6: And how has all of this kind of changed you
Speaker 6: in your family? I am so in awe of the
Speaker 6: strength in your family and just you bound together and
Speaker 6: you got through this horrible, horrible thing, and you have
Speaker 6: so much resilience you in your family. And how has
Speaker 6: this all changed you guys? And where does this resilience
Speaker 6: come from?
Speaker 7: Definitely my dad. I mean my dad raised us that way.
Speaker 3: You're not going to complain about anything that you're not
Speaker 3: willing to change all kinds of lessons growing up, and
Speaker 3: you're not going to just sit there and complain. In general,
Speaker 3: it doesn't help anything. Get up, get off your ass,
Speaker 3: and change something. Whether that's the view or whether that's
Speaker 3: your job or whatever it is. That that's just how
Speaker 3: we're always raised to be strong, to be independent, to
Speaker 3: be you know, courageous or whatnot stand up for what
Speaker 3: we believe is right. We're strong and we're not gonna
Speaker 3: let whatever you want to refer to him as break
Speaker 3: up our family or make us cold or heard in
Speaker 3: our hearts. It's just it's pick it up and keep
Speaker 3: going and do what you can. You better have some
Speaker 3: pretty fucking awesome stories to tell Kaylee when you get
Speaker 3: to heaven and you see her.
Speaker 6: And what do you miss most about your sister?
Speaker 7: That's tough.
Speaker 3: Kaylee was always the person to find in new spot
Speaker 3: and we need to go, And then my.
Speaker 7: Dad's like, yeah, we'll go. And then she's like, Okay,
Speaker 7: where's your car.
Speaker 3: Because I'm going to book the flights there and I'm
Speaker 3: going to plan our tripe.
Speaker 6: Well, she kind of liked them, not spokesperson, but kind
Speaker 6: of the family ring leader, saying, you know, let's do
Speaker 6: this together, let's do that. I feel like every family
Speaker 6: has one of those.
Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely. I mean she was the middle child, so
Speaker 3: you know what about me? You know, if anyone brought
Speaker 3: up do you want.
Speaker 2: To go here.
Speaker 7: Yeah, Kaylee wanted to go and she had already planned it,
Speaker 7: so in a sense, yeah, definitely.
Speaker 6: How do you want your sister to be remembered? Would
Speaker 6: you say?
Speaker 7: I just remember Kaylee as the girl who graduated high school,
Speaker 7: went to college, went and liked the party, joined a sorority,
Speaker 7: did everything right, even a role model for some people.
Speaker 7: She meant as anybody would think, a lot to our family.
Speaker 4: As this case comes to a close, our hearts go
Speaker 4: out to the families and friends of Medicine Mogan, Kallie Gonzalvez,
Speaker 4: Xana Kernodle, and Ethan Chapin their lives and the light
Speaker 4: they brought into the world will never be forgotten. The
Speaker 4: horror and heartbreak of that night will forever be etched
Speaker 4: in our minds, but so will the strength, the love,
Speaker 4: and the resilience shown by those left behind. Next week,
Speaker 4: please join us as we reflect on the case as
Speaker 4: a whole and answer some of your most pressing questions.
Speaker 4: More on that next time. For more information on the
Speaker 4: case and relevant photos, follow us on Instagram at kat
Speaker 4: Underscore Studios. The Idaho Massacre is produced by Stephanie Leideker,
Speaker 4: Alison Bankston, Gabriel Castillo and me Courtney Armstrong. Editing and
Speaker 4: sound design by Jeff Toois, music by Jared Aston. The
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