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Speaker 2: So you're saying, there's a chance it's a meat Friday.

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Speaker 2: Brg's Pacers come back beat the Thunder. They're up one

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Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers is going to the Steelers, and our long

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Speaker 2: awaited nightmares finally over as he's signed with the Steelers,

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Speaker 2: which I thought he had already agreed to in principle,

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Speaker 2: maybe a handshake deal, maybe just something verbally and said

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Speaker 2: I'll be there when you need me to be there.

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Speaker 2: And that is the start of June. I thought it

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Speaker 2: would actually happen today. It happened yesterday. We'll talk about that.

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Speaker 2: The ramifications for the Steelers and they're over under total

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Speaker 2: in Super Bowl odds. How much did they shift on

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Speaker 2: we do. Oh we have well fleet and lucky Lime oysters.

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Speaker 2: If you're a big oyster, I'm more of a Kumamoto

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Speaker 2: you care uh a pi guy, Yes, I'm more of

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Speaker 3: It, wealthy cape cod Dan.

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Speaker 4: You're not going to branch out, noah. Just so you know,

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Speaker 4: there's a bit of a rumbling in the back room

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Speaker 4: that you're a bit of a oyster snop.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh yeah, yeah, No, I freely openately admit

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Speaker 2: oh yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely yes.

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Speaker 4: But you're not you will eat other oysters.

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Speaker 2: I will, but I would prefer my PI Prince Edward Island,

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Speaker 2: you know, And I do love the kumamoto and the miyagis.

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Speaker 2: Just in case, you know, a little bit smaller, not

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Speaker 2: as briny back. I need a horse radish to go

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Speaker 2: along with my cocktail sauce, just to let you know. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: all right. So that's meat Friday here. Well, I have

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Speaker 2: a pole question, Play of the day, stat of the day,

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Speaker 2: all of that forthcoming. If you didn't stay up to

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Speaker 2: watch or listen, this is how it ended last night

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Speaker 2: in Oklahoma City.

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Speaker 5: Josas Alexanders Spins pulls up, jumper awful, won't go rebound in.

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Speaker 2: The smith patience will a chance to win it. Haliburton looking, Haliburton.

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Speaker 3: Driving plus up.

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Speaker 6: Jump shot Itit's go with three tons of a second,

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Speaker 6: vating time out. Okay, see Tyres Halliburton does it again.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Oklahoma City is winning this. They should have been

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Speaker 2: up by thirty. They were blowing out Indiana. Indiana could

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Speaker 2: not have played worse. And it's one of those situations

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Speaker 2: where I'm not saying that they didn't that they lost

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Speaker 2: the game during the first three quarters because they didn't

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Speaker 2: put Indiana away. They could have won the game in

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Speaker 2: the first three quarters if you follow my logic here,

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Speaker 2: that they would have been up by an insurmountable amount,

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Speaker 2: Whereas with Indiana, if they're down fifteen, okay, business as usual.

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Speaker 2: I've said this before. Teams that win by a large margin,

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Speaker 2: I'm always very leery of them when they get into

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Speaker 2: a one possession game. Now you're winning by thirteen points

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Speaker 2: per game, and I always go back to the UNLV

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Speaker 2: running rebels in the early nineties. They're blowing everybody out.

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Speaker 2: And I wondered, and I said this, I was working

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Speaker 2: with Bobb Lee on SportsCenter. What happens when they get

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Speaker 2: into a one possession game? If they do they got

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Speaker 2: into a one possession game against Duke, they had problems

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Speaker 2: with the inbounds pass, the play that was set up,

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Speaker 2: and Duke goes on to win the national title. I'm

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Speaker 2: not saying Indiana is going to win just because they

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Speaker 2: won last night. A lot of times we overreact to

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Speaker 2: game one. I go back to Allen Iverson getting forty

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Speaker 2: ended up winning, dominating, and Okasee is a better team,

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Speaker 2: like statistically a better team, But what happened. There's no

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Speaker 2: urgency last night. And give credit to Indiana, and give

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Speaker 2: credit to Rick Carlile because there has to be a

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Speaker 2: calming influence in that huddel has to be and that's

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Speaker 2: Rick Carlile. Not too high, not too low. The bench

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Speaker 2: will be Tappen, who played terribly and then had five

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Speaker 2: three pointers. But it's don't panic, and they didn't panic.

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Speaker 2: And even on the last possession. Now I'm screaming, waking

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Speaker 2: up everybody in the house, and I'm going with Halliburton

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Speaker 2: getting the ball, and I'm like, don't let him go right,

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Speaker 2: don't make him pass it, make him don't let him

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Speaker 2: go right now. I'm I picked Indiana to win the series.

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Speaker 2: I'm just doing this from a basketball perspective of don't

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Speaker 2: let the best guy beat you. Even though he played horribly.

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Speaker 2: Tyrese Halliburton has become one of the great clutch shooters

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Speaker 2: in NBA postseason history. The numbers back that up. They

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Speaker 2: let him go right. Caruso doesn't double, he falls back

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Speaker 2: on Pascal Siakam and Haliburton raises up and then seals it.

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Speaker 2: You let him go right, you don't double him. And look,

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Speaker 2: Pascal Siakam could have hit the game winning shot as well.

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Speaker 2: I would have been okay with that. I cannot let

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Speaker 2: the guy who has done this over and over and

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Speaker 2: over and over drives me crazy. And it just felt

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Speaker 2: end of the floor. Here's Haliburton, got the ball and floating, floating, floating,

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Speaker 2: tick tick tick tick tick tick tick, And I go, oh,

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Speaker 2: my goodness, he's gonna get a jumper. You don't send

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Speaker 2: Halliburton has four game time or go ahead field goals

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Speaker 2: This postseason brought you by Panini America, the official trading

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Speaker 2: cards of the program. Here is Halliburton on that game

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Speaker 7: This game, if you look at all the numbers, it's

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Speaker 7: not the recipe to win. We can't turn the ball

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Speaker 7: over that much. We got to do a better job

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Speaker 7: You gotta do a better job all over the floor.

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Speaker 7: But come May in June, it doesn't matter how you

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Speaker 7: get them, just get them, you know. So we'll take it.

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Speaker 7: You know, we'll enjoy this one tonight. But I understand

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Speaker 7: we got another game coming up in this tough building,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they played horribly, and I guess if you're Rick Carlisle,

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Speaker 2: you're like, Okay, we can't play this bad can we again? Well,

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Speaker 2: you can't play this badly again and win again. I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna guess, but okay, see, you're just kind of floating. Hey,

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Speaker 2: Shay gild They felt like they were standing around watching

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Speaker 2: Shay Gilges, like, hey man, he's putting up a lot

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Speaker 2: of points. Here. These guys they're committing turnovers. They're not

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Speaker 2: any good. Then all of a sudden, it's like, all right,

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Speaker 2: chip away, chip away, chip away, chip away. Now all

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Speaker 2: of a sudden, that next possession is really important, and

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Speaker 2: Shay Gill just got the shot that he wanted. He

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Speaker 2: misses the shot, and then transition defense. I just can't,

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Speaker 2: for the life of me, can't understand why you let

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Speaker 2: Tyre's Haliburton have a shot.

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Speaker 8: Yes, Martin Also, the Pacers had so many turnovers. Yeah,

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Speaker 8: and the thunder didn't take advantage of it. I think

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Speaker 8: they only got eleven points off of all of those

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Speaker 2: Once again, they couldn't have played worse, but they won

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Speaker 2: the game, and they won the game. And okay, see,

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Speaker 2: in case you're wondering for entertainment purposes, the Pacers are

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Speaker 2: eleven point underdogs this time around. We talked about this

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Speaker 2: yesterday and if you're going to pick the Pacers to

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Speaker 2: win a game, it was yesterday, it was last night.

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Speaker 2: We see this, you know, that team struggling, scrape and scrapping,

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Speaker 2: and then you know, here we are game one. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 2: you've been waiting for your you know, your opponent to

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Speaker 2: come into town. And the Pacers came in and granted

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Speaker 2: they did not play well at all, okac should have

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Speaker 2: won that game by double digits. They were favored by

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Speaker 2: nine and a half. But the Pacers eleven point underdogs

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Speaker 2: at Okasee. But they've done what they needed to do,

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Speaker 2: and that is and look, there could be a gentleman sweep.

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Speaker 2: I mean there's there are probably a lot of people,

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Speaker 2: smart people, analysts who say Hey, ok see, you can

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Speaker 2: still you know, they can sweep this, they can win

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Speaker 2: in five and okay, probably can. They have the talent,

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Speaker 2: have the team. But at least the Pacers said, not

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Speaker 2: so fast. Maybe we only get parting gifts for being

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Speaker 2: in the NBA finals. We're going to make you work

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Speaker 2: for this. But that's inexcusable. It really is inexcusable that

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Speaker 2: you didn't go after them. And you know what their

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Speaker 2: mo is, I don't know why I'm yelling.

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Speaker 3: Well, you got to point.

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Speaker 4: That you're up, what fifteen points with nine and a

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Speaker 4: half minutes. The bench for the Pacers is killing you.

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Speaker 4: And Halliburton was out of his mind the past month,

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Speaker 4: like you said, get it out of his hands and

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Speaker 4: risk the Pascal Siakam layup.

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Speaker 2: Someone else would rotate over nem hard like anybody. Miles Turner.

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Speaker 2: It can't be that guy. It can't. It's like when

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Speaker 2: Reggie was playing with the Pacers. Reggie is not beating me.

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Speaker 2: He can't beat me. Mark Jackson, Rick Smith's one of

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Speaker 2: the Davis brothers. Somebody other than that guy, and there

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Speaker 2: are a few of those that guys in the NBA,

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Speaker 2: and Halliburton has become that Yeah, seton.

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Speaker 9: It is funny that you did come in like exasperated today.

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Speaker 9: I did, god, like, dang, dude, I didn't know that

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Speaker 9: you were like riding that harder. You just don't kind

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Speaker 9: and go right the one guy I know.

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Speaker 2: But it's it's just the basketball purist in me. I'm

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Speaker 2: watching it, and even though I love that Indiana one,

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Speaker 2: I mean, I want this to be a competitive series.

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Speaker 2: You know these people who say, oh, there's no star power,

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Speaker 2: I'm not watching. I don't give a damn. Get the

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Speaker 2: hell out of here. Okay, the NBA is gonna be fine.

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Speaker 2: Off my lawn. Yeah, they're gonna be fine. I don't know. Okay,

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Speaker 2: don't watch, but this is ideal for both the NHL

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Speaker 2: and the NBA. You got an overtime win by Edmonton,

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Speaker 2: you had star power, and you had an unbelievable performance

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Speaker 2: at the end of the game. Wasn't a good game,

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Speaker 2: but it was a great finish.

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Speaker 8: Yes, Marv, I love how angry you got because you

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Speaker 8: seemed like the guy I know, a guy I went

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Speaker 8: to school with. And I'm left handed. Obviously, you guys

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Speaker 8: know that I kept going left. He's left Marvin's left handed. Hello, Hello,

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Speaker 8: he's left handed. That was you, Like, guys, he's going right.

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Speaker 2: You know that, right? You guys know that I got

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Speaker 2: afore seen left And even if he takes the joke

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Speaker 2: like I need, I have to force him into help,

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Speaker 2: that's all. And I don't want you going with your

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Speaker 2: strong hand there, that's all. And I don't want you

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Speaker 2: The great players, I mean, that's why they're great. They

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Speaker 1: I get.

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Speaker 2: This can't be a game that feels like December. I

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Speaker 3: Damn.

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Speaker 8: All postseason, you've been saying the same thing.

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Speaker 2: And you know the dan Ads sometimes just let me go,

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Speaker 8: Twenty I love Oh, good morning, DP, Marv. What I

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I walk around a corner. I run into Marvin.

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Speaker 2: It's bringing Albert Breer. He's the Monday Morning quarterback senior

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Speaker 2: NFL reporter. How did you celebrate Aaron Rodgers news there, Albert.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, with a big sigh of relief. That didn't happen

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I had a feeling that's gonna happen this week

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Speaker 3: To the twelfth.

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Speaker 6: So you know, if you're gonna if you're going to

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Speaker 2: It's a short term fix, but it kind of kicks

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Speaker 3: And I really like kind of like as I looked at.

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Speaker 6: They're so leveraged for right now, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 6: And yes, they're still chasing the mistake of taking Kenny

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Speaker 6: I think the guys that you were looking at there

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Speaker 3: And I think that's what this is. It's like if

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Speaker 6: how are you going to accomplish that? And like, yeah,

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Speaker 6: And look like I think part of this is that

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Speaker 6: He was a rock for them, a foundation piece for

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Speaker 6: There is there going to be a draft drop off

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Speaker 2: philosophy of drafting that where you just base it off

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Speaker 2: one year and I mean, this may go down is

430
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Speaker 2: a huge, huge whiff for that organization.

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Speaker 6: I mean, he's so raw coming out, you know, I

432
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Speaker 6: think everybody saw the talent ability, but you have to

433
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Speaker 6: you know, demonstrate and ability to actually do it on

434
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Speaker 6: the field, and there wasn't a lot of that, you know,

435
00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:06,640
Speaker 6: so they were really projecting, and you know, Shane Stiking

436
00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:08,800
Speaker 6: coming in and how you know, Shane was a part

437
00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:11,920
Speaker 6: of developing Jalen Hurts. They had some confidence that, like, hey,

438
00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:14,760
Speaker 6: we can take this kind of ball of clay and

439
00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:18,520
Speaker 6: shape it into something, even though he only started thirteen

440
00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:22,640
Speaker 6: games in college, which is an absurdly low number. I'd

441
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Speaker 6: argue this is also the result of, like, you know,

442
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Speaker 6: sort of predetermining, and I think this is where you

443
00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:30,480
Speaker 6: have to be really careful. Dan predetermining that this is

444
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Speaker 6: the draft where we're going to take a quarterback. Oh yeah, yes,

445
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Speaker 6: you know, I just like I and you remember it

446
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Speaker 6: as well as I do. Right, Like, so Luck retires

447
00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:42,440
Speaker 6: after eighteen. No one saw it coming. Berset in nineteen,

448
00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:46,040
Speaker 6: Rivers in twenty, Wentz in twenty one, Ryan in twenty two.

449
00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:48,359
Speaker 6: Owner gets fed up, Frank Wright gets fired. In the

450
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Speaker 6: middle of the year, Jeff Saturday put in, come hell

451
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Speaker 6: or high water, We're we're gonna get our quarterback in

452
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Speaker 6: twenty twenty three.

453
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Speaker 3: Well, is the reality of it.

454
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Speaker 6: They took the third quarterback in a two quarterback draft,

455
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Speaker 6: you know what I mean? Like and like, that's how

456
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Speaker 6: you again, We've seen it time and again.

457
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Speaker 3: That's how ej.

458
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Speaker 6: Manuel goes to Buffalo sixteenth. Overall, it's how Kenny Pickett

459
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Speaker 6: goes in the first round.

460
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Speaker 3: Of Pittsburgh Christian Ponder.

461
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Speaker 6: Christian Ponder, Yeah, of the vikings, like if you predetermine,

462
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Speaker 6: I think like teams were prone to that happening this year,

463
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Speaker 6: you know, like where it just you have to draft

464
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Speaker 6: the player. You can't just draft the position, you know.

465
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Speaker 6: And I do think to some degree, the Colts were

466
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Speaker 6: in this spot where they were drafting the position in

467
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Speaker 6: twenty twenty three because they were on under something of

468
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Speaker 6: a mandate to do so, because they had had such

469
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Speaker 6: a revolving door at that spot.

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Speaker 3: I think it's I think it's a huge, huge.

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Speaker 6: Huge red flag for any team thinking like going into

472
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Speaker 6: this year, Yes, we're taking a quarterback next year, you know.

473
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Speaker 6: And here's the other thing, like you were it cost you, well,

474
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Speaker 6: it really cost you three off seasons of finding a

475
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Speaker 6: quarterback because you didn't get it right in twenty three,

476
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Speaker 6: and then the last two years you've just backstopped sin

477
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Speaker 6: last year, you know, with Joe Flacco and this year.

478
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Speaker 3: With uh with with Daniel Jones.

479
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Speaker 6: So you've ostensibly lost I mean, unless Daniel Jones winds

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Speaker 6: up being the quarterback of the future.

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Speaker 3: I'm not rolling anything out.

482
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Speaker 6: But you know, you've you've you've lost three or three

483
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Speaker 6: more off seasons now as a result of that pick.

484
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Speaker 3: It can be really damaging to a franchise for sure.

485
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Speaker 2: Where do we stand with the Stefon Diggs boat party story?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I would say so. So first of all, I

487
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Speaker 6: think the first thing you want to you want to

488
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Speaker 6: lay out here is how important culture has been for

489
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Speaker 6: for for Mike, for Abele and trying to establish what

490
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Speaker 6: he wants to build there. I think they followed the

491
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Speaker 6: Commander's blueprint to some degree. If you look at all

492
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Speaker 6: the guys that Dan Quinn Adam Peters signed in the

493
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Speaker 6: twenty twenty four off season, almost every one of them

494
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Speaker 6: had a connection to someone on the coaching staff, and

495
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Speaker 6: it was it was because they wanted to know that

496
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Speaker 6: they were getting the right types of guys to plug

497
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Speaker 6: into their program in year one and you know, Mike

498
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:02,560
Speaker 6: did a lot of that in the off season. Milton

499
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Speaker 6: Williams was an exception, but he was a plus character

500
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Speaker 6: in Philly. Almost everybody else that they signed had some

501
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Speaker 6: sort of background, and this one, Diggs was sort of

502
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Speaker 6: the dice roll. So I think this happening this early,

503
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Speaker 6: and it's not so much being on a Boata Memorial

504
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Speaker 6: Day weekend or even the back of drugs. It's like,

505
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Speaker 6: how do you allow yourself to be filmed like that?

506
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:25,320
Speaker 6: Now you've created a week long story for everybody else

507
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Speaker 6: in the team. So I think the big thing was

508
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Speaker 6: did he make it out of that week? Did he

509
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:32,479
Speaker 6: sit down and have an honest conversation with Mike Rabel?

510
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Speaker 6: Was he straightforward with him? And can they move forward?

511
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Speaker 11: Now?

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Speaker 6: This doesn't disappear because if something else were to happen,

513
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Speaker 6: of course, like you know, he already has a strike

514
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Speaker 6: against him right like that. It's not like it's just

515
00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:48,159
Speaker 6: vanishes off the ledger, because if something else where to happen, then,

516
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Speaker 6: like you know, I think that then you know, you

517
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Speaker 6: would certainly look back and say, okay, this is twice now, dude.

518
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Speaker 6: But you know, I do think it's that the juncture

519
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Speaker 6: is happening can be fortuitous for the page and they

520
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:03,720
Speaker 6: could say, Okay, like now you know, like this is

521
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Speaker 6: what people were worried about with you. We really need

522
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Speaker 6: you to be a leader for the team. And the

523
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Speaker 6: good news is, like I think Steph is deep down

524
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Speaker 6: a good guy. His work ethic has always been beyond approach.

525
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Speaker 6: He's been a captain for multiple teams. Like I just

526
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Speaker 6: I think that there's a there's a good path out

527
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Speaker 6: of this.

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Speaker 3: But it certainly doesn't disappear from the.

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Speaker 2: Ledger allegedly drugs did.

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Speaker 3: I'd not say allegedly. I'm sorry. I have no idea

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Speaker 3: what was in the bag. I wasn't on the boat,

532
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Speaker 3: wasn't invited?

533
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Speaker 2: Yeah, would you have gone on the boat if invited? Sure?

534
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:33,960
Speaker 6: Sure?

535
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Speaker 11: Sure?

536
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Speaker 3: Did they lose your invite in the mail too?

537
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Speaker 2: I don't think I want to be on that boat.

538
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Speaker 2: You know, you know I would go on for journalistic purpose,

539
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,200
Speaker 2: of course you would. I would go on for Cardi

540
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Speaker 2: b Okay, this team will have the number one pick

541
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Speaker 2: in the draft this upcoming season.

542
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Speaker 3: That's a tough one because this one's going to get aggregated.

543
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Speaker 6: Then New Orleans would be interest interesting, wouldn't it If

544
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Speaker 6: they had the first pick and they had a chance

545
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Speaker 6: to take a quarterback, and with Arch Manning declare, I

546
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Speaker 6: don't even want to get into that because I don't

547
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Speaker 6: we still don't know on Arch, like how good he's

548
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Speaker 6: going to be when he's a starter for a full year.

549
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Speaker 6: But you know that's going to be the storyline, right,

550
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Speaker 6: I mean, his family history says there's no way he's

551
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Speaker 6: coming out after one year starting.

552
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Speaker 2: Right like his But if the Saints have the number

553
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Speaker 2: one pick on the draft, then I.

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Speaker 3: Mean, like, wouldn't that be tempting?

555
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Speaker 11: Right?

556
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Speaker 2: Yes?

557
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:30,720
Speaker 3: Yeah? And then a quarterback situation.

558
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Speaker 6: I mean, I the Saints are an interesting one because

559
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Speaker 6: I don't think they're a bad I don't think it's

560
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Speaker 6: a bad team, like I don't think it's a bad roster.

561
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Speaker 3: Like I think their.

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Speaker 6: Offensive line actually has a chance to be really good

563
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Speaker 6: with Kelvin Banks coming in there. You know, the defensive

564
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Speaker 6: line still has I think promise, maybe get a little

565
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 6: bit more out of Chase Young this year. Cam Jordan's

566
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Speaker 6: back for his twenty fifth.

567
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Speaker 3: Year, you know.

568
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Speaker 6: So, like I think that there are elements of a

569
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Speaker 6: good team there, and I think for a young quarterback

570
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Speaker 6: coming in eventually this could be a really good spot.

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Speaker 6: I just I don't know how quarterbacks going to undermine

572
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 6: them this year, you know, like the back end of

573
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Speaker 6: the defense, I'm not sure where that's how that's going

574
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 6: to look like. I think the lines give them an

575
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Speaker 6: opportunity to stay in games, but the rest of it

576
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Speaker 6: is kind of like, oh, like you know, like let's

577
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Speaker 6: see what this looks like. And and yeah, I mean

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Speaker 6: I wouldn't that definitely be the storyline though, right, like, yes, yeah,

579
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Speaker 6: if if we get to December and they're near the

580
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Speaker 6: top of the draft order and Texas is like in

581
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Speaker 6: the national title picture, yeah, it could be pretty interesting.

582
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Speaker 2: Albert, have a great weekend. The Monday Morning quarterback. Thank

583
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Speaker 2: you all right?

584
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Speaker 3: Thanks Dan?

585
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you imagine feels like Arch is going to stay

586
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Speaker 2: for two years, and I'm sure that that would be

587
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Speaker 2: something that the Manning family would advise him. Get some starts,

588
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:51,840
Speaker 2: get some big starts under your belt, get twenty five

589
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 2: close to thirty starts under your belt, then you'll be ready.

590
00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:58,760
Speaker 2: But can you pass up the opportunity to be the

591
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Speaker 2: quarterback for the Normal and Saints? Sean in Oregon, Hey Sean,

592
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 2: what's on your mind?

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Speaker 9: Hey?

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Speaker 14: Thanks for taking my call, Dan. I hear you guys

595
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:12,320
Speaker 14: talking about the odds on the Steelers, and I'm thinking,

596
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:15,200
Speaker 14: more like, what are the odds that Arthur Smith finished

597
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 14: the season with the Steelers. I've been watching Aaron Rodgers

598
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Speaker 14: and what he's been doing. I watched what happened to

599
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Speaker 14: the Jets coaching staff in that whole team. I mean,

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Speaker 14: I think the Steelers are a little more strong willed

601
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:31,120
Speaker 14: and a little bit better decision making than the Jets.

602
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Speaker 14: But I think I think this would get pretty nasty.

603
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:37,160
Speaker 14: And I think a lot of the Steelers' locker room

604
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 14: have probably got their opinions already made. And if he doesn't,

605
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:44,120
Speaker 14: if they like Arthur Smith more than they like Aaron Rodgers,

606
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:47,680
Speaker 14: a couple of the linemen might play Mattador type line

607
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 14: for a couple of games to let something happen to him.

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Speaker 2: I don't think that's going to happen. They want to win.

609
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:56,200
Speaker 2: They got a chance to win with that. You may

610
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:59,400
Speaker 2: not like all your teammates, but if that guy can

611
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 2: help you win, that's what it's. That's the bottom line.

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00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 2: Dan in Ohio, Hi Dan, what's on your mind today?

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Speaker 11: Hey?

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Speaker 5: DPD Dan AT's first time longtime five ten and a

615
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 5: wiry one thirty. The reason I'm calling is this Sunday,

616
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 5: I am headed out to Germany to see my daughter,

617
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Speaker 5: who is a captain in the army, and she surprised

618
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Speaker 5: me with a Father's Day weekend trip to Normandy.

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Speaker 2: Oh.

620
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Speaker 11: I know that was one of.

621
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Speaker 5: Your most memorable trips. So I was hoping to maybe

622
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 5: get a little uh advice on a couple of places

623
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Speaker 5: to stop. I know there's all kinds of stuff there,

624
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Speaker 5: but I just wanted to get your opinion on the matter.

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00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:48,720
Speaker 2: All Right, you've got a great daughter. If she surprised

626
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 2: you with that for Father's Day, go to the American Cemetery,

627
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 2: the US Cemetery with all the soldiers who died there,

628
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Speaker 2: and go to the German Cemetery, because you will see,

629
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Speaker 2: I mean, it's unbelievable the difference between those two even

630
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Speaker 2: you know the gravestones the Americans they're white stone and

631
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 2: Germany they're black. You know, the feeling of pride at

632
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 2: the US Cemetery as opposed to going to the German

633
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:28,560
Speaker 2: Cemetery and get there for taps. Okay, if you get

634
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 2: an opportunity to get there in the evening when they

635
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 2: bring the American flag down at the cemetery. It is,

636
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 2: it's so moving, it'll hit you hard if you can

637
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 2: get a walking tour, if you get a guide who

638
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 2: can help you with some of the smaller things that

639
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 2: I wasn't aware of. But it was so rewarding, unbelievable.

640
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:57,280
Speaker 2: And then when you go to Omaha be I mean

641
00:32:57,280 --> 00:33:00,280
Speaker 2: when you see what those kids when they got off

642
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 2: those boats and you can see where the Germans had

643
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 2: positioned their machine guns, there's still little caves cut out.

644
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:13,840
Speaker 2: They had no chance, none, and they got out of

645
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 2: those boats. And the way the Germans positioned their machine guns,

646
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 2: they were shooting at angles, you know, against the soldiers,

647
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 2: not straight ahead, they were going sideways. And it is

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Speaker 2: a very very very powerful scene moment feel. I just

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Speaker 2: sat on the beach. I cried. Yes, that picture of.

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Speaker 9: The uh yeah, I think it's called like into the

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Speaker 9: Jaws of Death maybe, but it's that very famous picture

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Speaker 9: of sort of the landing barge and the front has

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Speaker 9: gone down for everybody to run off of and you

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Speaker 9: can see, you know, the walls of the barge sort

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Speaker 9: of framed the picture and all you can see is

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Speaker 9: straight through what all of these people ran through, and

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Speaker 9: where they were running to one of the most powerful

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Speaker 9: photographs ever taken.

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Speaker 2: I just can't imagine you're eighteen, nineteen years of age

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Speaker 2: and all of a sudden you're pulling up and you're

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Speaker 2: seeing I mean, it's just a massacre. It truly is.

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Speaker 2: And you're getting off that boat and damn. I mean,

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Speaker 2: if you have kids, you imagine an eighteen year old

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Speaker 2: son getting off that boat, nineteen years of age. Everybody

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Speaker 2: getting shot right in front of you. But there's so much,

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Speaker 2: so many historical artifacts there, and you know planes that

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Speaker 2: they jumped out of and jeeps that they rowed in,

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Speaker 2: and it just it, it'll it'll hit you, It'll hit

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Speaker 2: you hard.

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Speaker 2: Former eighth overall pick by the Knicks back in two

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Speaker 2: fry Back on the program, Thanks for joining us. Oklahoma

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Speaker 2: City's biggest mistake last night was what.

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Speaker 15: Started to get stagnant, and that last six minutes of

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Speaker 15: the fourth quarter. I think if you watched that first

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Speaker 15: Knicks game, the Knicks were moving the ball, the ball

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Speaker 15: was finding energy. And the last six minutes Oksees started

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Speaker 15: to play we're trying not to lose instead of winning basketball,

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Speaker 15: and they stopped going at Tyres Halliburn, and they stopped

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Speaker 15: attacking the paint and they started to just give it

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Speaker 15: to Sgaight.

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Speaker 11: Everybody got tight and the pacers said, oh, here we go.

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Speaker 15: And it's just it's it's absolutely amazing that somebody who's

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Speaker 15: played basketball one at the highest level, played every position,

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Speaker 15: whether that start DNP came off the bench to see

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Speaker 15: how locked in for forty eight minutes, Indiana is consistently

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Speaker 15: it's just death by a thousand cuts, right it is.

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Speaker 11: They put TJ.

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Speaker 15: McConnell in, he's playing at a high level. They put

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Speaker 15: in Eesmith in, he's playing the high level.

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Speaker 11: You know.

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Speaker 15: Then they put different rotations and I'm just impressed at

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Speaker 15: Rick Carlisle's ability to lift up every single one of

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Speaker 15: his players, to play at this level consistently and not

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Speaker 15: play hero ball until the end.

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Speaker 11: And Tyree says, oh, y'all need me to be the hero.

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Speaker 15: Okay, here we go, Like whether I have two points

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Speaker 15: or twelve points, two hundred points, I'm gonna hit this.

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Speaker 11: I'm gona hit this last shot.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I was yelling at the TV last night. Now,

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Speaker 2: keep in mind, I picked the Pacers to win. But

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Speaker 2: I can't believe the defense that Okayse had. There's one

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Speaker 2: guy in the building. I don't care what kind of

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Speaker 2: game he's had prior to that. There's one guy who

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Speaker 2: has been built for this. He's not afraid of this moment.

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Speaker 2: I cannot let Tyrese Haliburton beat me. I can't let

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Speaker 2: him go, right, I can't. I mean, okay, help me

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Speaker 2: understand this. What did what did you see there that

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Speaker 2: he did? And okay, see did or didn't do one?

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Speaker 11: They stopped going at him defensively.

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Speaker 15: I think if you rewatch that first half, they put

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Speaker 15: him in actions, and anytime in the NBA, especially in

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Speaker 15: the finals, you get an action, meaning two people go

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Speaker 15: on the ball, whether it's a show and get back. Okay,

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Speaker 15: see does that really well? Indiana Tyreees was struggling at

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Speaker 15: the beginning of this because I don't think the Knicks

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Speaker 15: went at him. So when they put two on the ball,

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Speaker 15: they were getting downhill two feet in the paint, spraying out,

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Speaker 15: putting him in different screening actions.

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Speaker 11: Nobody.

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Speaker 15: They wanted to keep Nie Smith and Nemhart on SGA

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Speaker 15: as much as possible where that's kind of exhausting to

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Speaker 15: his mind. If you give a guy like Tyre's Halliburton

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Speaker 15: four or five six minutes where he doesn't have to

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Speaker 15: necessarily be in an action, run, be in rotations, he

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Speaker 15: can settle in to the game and start to control it.

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Speaker 15: I thought at the end of the game, okase was

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Speaker 15: so they weren't present, right, and in basketball, at the

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Speaker 15: end of the game, you need to be present to

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Speaker 15: like what the game plan is. If they were present,

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Speaker 15: they would have ran over and made him throw it.

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Speaker 15: But give this to Indiana everybody. They had what seven

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Speaker 15: dudes in double figures, So who do you double team

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Speaker 15: if the guy who's the clutch player maybe of our generation,

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Speaker 15: which is crazy to say, the Tyree's, I mean, it's

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Speaker 15: crazy to say, but do you double team for a

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Speaker 15: guy who has twenty three?

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Speaker 11: This guy is fourteen, this guy is twenty, that is seventeen.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm not letting Halliburton take the shot.

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Speaker 2: I'm just not totally.

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Speaker 15: But in that split second that you have to make

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Speaker 15: a decision, right, usually you would feel this guy doesn't

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Speaker 15: want to shoot, that guy's afraid of the moment. Si

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Speaker 15: Yakimas had big moments. Nie Smith is a big moments.

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Speaker 15: Miles Turner has made big shots. So like that split

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Speaker 15: second of not going the shot is already out and

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Speaker 15: that's what makes them it is. I've watched a lot

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Speaker 15: of basketball. I don't know how they do it or

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Speaker 15: how they practice that, but a coach Joyce says, hey

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Speaker 15: play forty eight minutes, and they literally play forty eight

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Speaker 15: full crazy minutes.

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Speaker 11: It's a masterclass.

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Speaker 2: I brought this up at the start of the show.

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Speaker 2: There are certain teams that are so good, and my

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Speaker 2: reference point is UNLV back in the nineties they blew

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Speaker 2: everybody out. Yeah oh yeah, and I would I would

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Speaker 2: keep reminding people in March madness. You have one game

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Speaker 2: usually where it's going to get tight, and I want

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Speaker 2: to know when it gets tight, how you perform. And

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Speaker 2: we saw that it got tight that bad play. Duke

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Speaker 2: ended up beating them. Okase, he's been blowing teams out

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Speaker 2: by average to thirteen points. Game got tight, and all

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Speaker 2: of a sudden, Indiana's been playing in these tight games.

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Speaker 2: And you saw the different I mean, Sga got the

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Speaker 2: shot that he wanted didn't go. Siakam had an unbelievable

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Speaker 2: block on Sga. But then you gave them a puncher's chance,

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Speaker 2: and that's all they've asked for. Hey, nobody wants to

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Speaker 2: see us. You know, nobody knows us. Well, we're going

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Speaker 2: to hang around a little bit longer there. And I

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Speaker 2: think it's a testament to those players, to that coaching

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Speaker 2: staff of we're down fifteen, we're not going to do

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Speaker 2: anything drastic. Although Obi Toppin came in, he played terrible

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Speaker 2: and then he played unbelievable. He keeps It's like Rick

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Speaker 2: Carlisle keeps spinning the roulette wheel and going, okay, let's

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Speaker 2: try that guy. You know, new Hard might have a

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Speaker 2: good game, or Nie Smith might have a good game,

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Speaker 2: Miles Turner, but you know the consistent is Siakam in Halliburton.

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Speaker 15: Well, I'll say this, I think what Rick called Carlisle does,

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Speaker 15: and I say this to my friends. He's the best

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Speaker 15: Djenga player of all time. He's gonna keep tapping a

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Speaker 15: brick until it gets solved. And the thing is the

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Speaker 15: first half, if they hadn't the calmness of him as

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Speaker 15: his leader, to go, guys, we have god knows how

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Speaker 15: many turnovers. They've only scored nine points. Let's take let's

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Speaker 15: we can control that one.

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Speaker 11: Two.

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Speaker 15: What's wild is Siakam is the biggest mismatch for Okac.

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Speaker 15: I would say next to like Jokics, because Check can't

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Speaker 15: guard Siakam one on one, right, So now you've got

816
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Speaker 15: to play a smaller lineup. So now the best team

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Speaker 15: in basketball, second best team, you know, if you're looking

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Speaker 15: at the Cavs right for the regular season, is maybe

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Speaker 15: changing their lineup that's worked all year for one guy,

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Speaker 15: hold on, now that's crazy, right, And then two a

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Speaker 15: great coach, whether it's Falsetro, whether that's Joe Missoula, whether

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Speaker 15: that's Steve Kerr, you know, Tylu whoever, when you're allowed

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Speaker 15: to use your players that don't have egos as chess pieces,

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Speaker 15: Rick Carlisle is just every time dag Nat makes a play,

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Speaker 15: he just he just says, oh, rook to paon seven,

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Speaker 15: like he just is playing and they run out of

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Speaker 15: moves because he's like, Oh, this guy's ego hurts that

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Speaker 15: I took him out where the pacers go, Oh, that's

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Speaker 15: just Rick, Like I'm going back in no problem.

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Speaker 11: But it's it's for people who.

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Speaker 15: Love basketball, Like you can watch that game again and

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Speaker 15: just see the moves be made and just appreciate the

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Speaker 15: skill set of everyone on the court.

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Speaker 2: Talking to Channing fry Turner, sports NBA analyst and co

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Speaker 2: host of Road Tripping podcast, also win a championship with

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Speaker 2: the Cavs back in twenty sixteen. Okay, but with that

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Speaker 2: play when you guys went when Kyrie hits the shot, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: is Lebron prepared for Kyrie to take the show like

839
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Speaker 2: he knows like Jordan did with Steve Kerr and John

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Speaker 2: Packson they were going to take the last shot. Was

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Speaker 2: Lebron prepared to not take that last shot that you

842
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Speaker 2: guys knew if Steph was guarding Kyrie, he was taking

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Speaker 2: the shot.

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Speaker 15: So if you watch that whole series, Andrew Bogan, and

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Speaker 15: I've said this before, was the biggest thing that happened

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Speaker 15: that series, right, they had to go small, and with

847
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Speaker 15: that small lineup, Kyrie was we were I don't want

848
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Speaker 15: to say the right word, is it hunting? But again,

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Speaker 15: the only action we got, which is not a switch.

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Speaker 15: They were the number one defense in the league. The

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Speaker 15: only non switch where Golden State would put two people

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Speaker 15: on the ball was when Steph was getting ready to

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Speaker 15: guard Kyrie. So we said he and now no, this

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Speaker 15: is true or not. We said, Kyrie, he don't want

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Speaker 15: to guard you. So we start pumping him.

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Speaker 11: Like get it. I'm like adult, I get it. And

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Speaker 11: all of a.

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Speaker 15: Sudden, Kyrie just does what Kyrie does. And so for

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Speaker 15: for us, the egos went out the door. We said, hey,

860
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:07,440
Speaker 15: that's the best matchup for us. We have Tristan down

861
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 15: there boxing out. We have Kevin down there boxing out,

862
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:13,160
Speaker 15: we have Braun down there boxing out. So just in

863
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 15: case I think Richard was in the game or Jr.

864
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:19,040
Speaker 15: Boxing out. So that's six' nine six, nine six, ten

865
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:22,360
Speaker 15: six ten versus their small group With kyrie's shooting the,

866
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 15: ball like you can't plan that over over the smallest

867
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 15: guy on the, court And kyrie is and people are

868
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 15: gonna be. Upset but Watching kyrie for the years THAT

869
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:36,280
Speaker 15: i was there my short, time he's a skilled PLAYER

870
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 15: i have ever seen top to, bottom hands. Down, regardless

871
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 15: when he shot, that we all, knew, oh that's. Good,

872
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 15: like it wasn't even a thought of is this going

873
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:47,920
Speaker 15: in or. Not when he got to his spot and

874
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 15: did that little, Shimmy we're, like, oh, yeah it's, it that's.

875
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:52,920
Speaker 11: It it's just that he's just that.

876
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:55,919
Speaker 15: Ridiculous but, yeah bron was, like, man, dude the dude

877
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:58,920
Speaker 15: at forty one point triple doubles like three games in a, row,

878
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:00,839
Speaker 15: like and people are, like, well you didn't shoot the last.

879
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:03,799
Speaker 15: Time that's Because i'm playing With, kyrie, idiot, like and

880
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:07,360
Speaker 15: that's the. Matchup, like people just make stuff. Up but

881
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:09,759
Speaker 15: if you're ready to, win you go with the best.

882
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 15: Matchup and last, night not to bring this, Around indiana

883
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 15: started hunting Chet chet had a bad. GAME i don't

884
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:18,040
Speaker 15: think he's gonna play like that every. Game but the

885
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:21,279
Speaker 15: Minute chet like started to be a little, weary they

886
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:24,800
Speaker 15: go got, him we got something and they started attacking.

887
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:27,240
Speaker 15: Him they started going at, him and in the, finals

888
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 15: that's a. Lot it sucks when you start getting. Hunted

889
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 15: what's you either gon have to sit down and mood, in,

890
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:34,879
Speaker 15: puppies are you gonna Be you're gonna be over?

891
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:38,600
Speaker 2: There what's it like to be hunted during a? Game knowing?

892
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:41,920
Speaker 2: Sucks like this. Sucks who is the guy that you were?

893
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:45,360
Speaker 2: Guarding and you were, like damn that he's hunting. Me

894
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:46,359
Speaker 2: we're in THE.

895
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:48,359
Speaker 11: Nba finals and they're playing five.

896
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:52,520
Speaker 15: Guards they were Playing Andre, Madala Draymond, Green Sean, Livingston

897
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 15: Steve Steph, Curry Steve, Curse Steph curry that's his, Brother

898
00:46:56,080 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 15: Steve Steph, curry And Klay. Thompson and they Put verajall

899
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:02,759
Speaker 15: in because REMEMBER i got traded For Vera.

900
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 11: Jall when they Put verajall, IN i came in real.

901
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 15: Quick and then they Took Steve kerr immediately took him

902
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:12,439
Speaker 15: back out and Put Harrison barnes. In, Right So i'm

903
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:15,759
Speaker 15: now Guarding Harrison, barnes who's basically a, guard And i'm a,

904
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:19,280
Speaker 15: center true, center and my feet are like cement. Blocks

905
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:22,319
Speaker 15: so they were like worth, Channing so that's not like

906
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:25,240
Speaker 15: they're in THE Nba. FINALS i was, like, man, listen,

907
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:28,399
Speaker 15: y'all we're talking about the best team ever to play

908
00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:30,759
Speaker 15: one of the best teams ever played, basketball and you

909
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:35,840
Speaker 15: got slow foot Ogre channing trying to Guard Clay Steph Andre,

910
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 15: go'dala who is a guard with me At.

911
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 11: Arizona stop, It like what are we? Doing? So hunting

912
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:43,279
Speaker 11: does not feel good because you're, LIKE i can't move that.

913
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 15: Fast this is not WHO i am as a, player

914
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:49,600
Speaker 15: and this is just not my. Time, Hey Eastern Conference,

915
00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:52,200
Speaker 15: FINALS i could Cook finals Versus Golden.

916
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:54,480
Speaker 11: State maybe you KNOW i got you Here. Brown the

917
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:55,319
Speaker 11: paychecks ain't that.

918
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 2: Big we've been talking about The hull Of Very, good

919
00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:03,399
Speaker 2: not The hall Of, fame but those players who were

920
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 2: just there. Outside you, know they're on the, patio Like Jamal,

921
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:11,319
Speaker 2: Crawford hall of very, Right Joe johnson if you want

922
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:13,400
Speaker 2: to put him in, THERE i don't know if you

923
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:17,600
Speaker 2: you have a nominee for The hall Of Very, good

924
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:20,880
Speaker 2: whether it's a player now or maybe somebody you played

925
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:25,879
Speaker 2: with or. Against Is Kevin love A hall of Very?

926
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:27,759
Speaker 2: Good or?

927
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:31,200
Speaker 15: So let me ask, you this is the Basketball hall Of,

928
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:33,360
Speaker 15: fame right for THE Nba hall Of.

929
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:35,799
Speaker 11: Fame if it's, basketball he's a, no no.

930
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:38,759
Speaker 15: Question so he Wins National player of The year in

931
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:41,759
Speaker 15: high school WINS i think two state, championships goes to,

932
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:45,440
Speaker 15: college win's, there goes to THE nba for two years

933
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 15: as a power. FORWARD a cheby white dude From, Portland,

934
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:51,880
Speaker 15: oregon is in conversations to be the?

935
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:54,279
Speaker 11: Best is he the best power forward in THE?

936
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:59,279
Speaker 15: Nba then changes his, role wins a championship In, cleveland

937
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:01,120
Speaker 15: go to the finals four.

938
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:02,640
Speaker 11: TIMES i know he got, hurt but he still was

939
00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:02,880
Speaker 11: on the.

940
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:05,920
Speaker 15: Team goes to the finals four, times goes To, miami

941
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:09,239
Speaker 15: goes to the finals two more. Times so like to,

942
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:12,040
Speaker 15: me how much winning does somebody have to? Do so

943
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 15: he's they, go he's A hall Of, fame all? Right

944
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 15: so A hall of?

945
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:19,120
Speaker 2: Good who would you, nominate Like Jamal, crawford would you

946
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:20,279
Speaker 2: say hall for?

947
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:21,520
Speaker 11: Sure Ja maul for?

948
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:26,480
Speaker 15: SURE i think you look at his impact as like

949
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:28,400
Speaker 15: the culture of. BASKETBALL i think you look at his

950
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:31,520
Speaker 15: impact on like his skill, set the sixth, man the,

951
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 15: war like being maybe the greatest six.

952
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:34,840
Speaker 11: MAN i think if.

953
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:37,080
Speaker 2: He's A hall Of famer or A hall of very,

954
00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:38,919
Speaker 2: GOOD i think.

955
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:40,480
Speaker 11: He has to be A hall very. Good most my.

956
00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:42,080
Speaker 11: GUY i think he's all my.

957
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:46,319
Speaker 15: Guys but winning also equates to, this, right if he

958
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:48,640
Speaker 15: had won a chip or gone to THE Nba. FINALS

959
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:51,000
Speaker 15: i think that would change my opinion on. That And

960
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:53,160
Speaker 15: mall is my good, friend and SO i kind of

961
00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:56,040
Speaker 15: feel bad saying, that but he is he is above very.

962
00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:58,760
Speaker 15: Good but he's not a True hall Of. Fame somebody

963
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:01,200
Speaker 15: has gone to the finals five, times you.

964
00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:03,440
Speaker 2: Know all, right give me your nom give me somebody

965
00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:05,319
Speaker 2: that you want to nominate for The haull of Very.

966
00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:10,719
Speaker 15: Good uh, HONESTLY i would have to say A mars Stamar.

967
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:15,080
Speaker 2: Man that's a GOOD i mean playing and he was my.

968
00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:18,919
Speaker 15: TEAMMATE i mean Maybe LaMarcus, aldridge Like i'm just gonna

969
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:23,759
Speaker 15: go through power, Forwards LaMarcus, ALDRIDGE i mean they Were

970
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:28,600
Speaker 15: i'm just gonna go through power, forwards, monsters monsters at their.

971
00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:31,680
Speaker 15: Position obviously the league went, smaller but you look at

972
00:50:31,719 --> 00:50:35,439
Speaker 15: their body of, work you look at how they did,

973
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:37,640
Speaker 15: it you look at their, impact you look at Their

974
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:41,200
Speaker 15: All star. NOMINATIONS i Mean, LaMarcus you look at how

975
00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:42,640
Speaker 15: many shots are main points he?

976
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:47,720
Speaker 11: Had he only had three moves fade, away look face.

977
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:48,680
Speaker 11: Up he was.

978
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:51,440
Speaker 15: Cooking trust, ME i play him every. Day it was

979
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:53,239
Speaker 15: cooking And amari, Cooking like.

980
00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:58,279
Speaker 2: What About Stefan? MARY i, KNOW i.

981
00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:00,560
Speaker 11: Think this is. CRAZY i think Steph on needs to

982
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:02,640
Speaker 11: be in The hall Of, fame the Real hall Of.

983
00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:07,600
Speaker 15: Fame LIKE i Think Stephan marbury's impact on basketball.

984
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:10,839
Speaker 11: Globally he's one of the best GUARDS i have ever.

985
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:16,040
Speaker 2: Played more Talented kyrie Or Stephan? Marbury oh?

986
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:23,000
Speaker 11: Talented oh that's a great, Question Oh.

987
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 15: STEPH i think people forget how good stuff, Was, like, oh,

988
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:29,880
Speaker 15: MAN i know if sneakers were whole.

989
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:30,960
Speaker 11: Hum button and he's gonna be.

990
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:31,560
Speaker 3: MAD i said.

991
00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:34,799
Speaker 15: That we used to make fun of those, sneakers but

992
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:37,279
Speaker 15: it was a great. IDEA i have to go With

993
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:41,360
Speaker 15: kyrie just because like it's but it's not, skill it's talent.

994
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:47,320
Speaker 15: Free that is a great. QUESTION i want to Say

995
00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:54,600
Speaker 15: steph because he has more Ops steph because Athletically steph

996
00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:59,239
Speaker 15: was Just kyrie is just an absolute crazy man when

997
00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:01,640
Speaker 15: it comes to, basketball like he. DOESN'T i think people

998
00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:04,719
Speaker 15: say it he doesn't know what movie he's gonna do until.

999
00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:04,960
Speaker 11: You move your.

1000
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:07,719
Speaker 15: Foot so for his ability to move his body as

1001
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:10,319
Speaker 15: fast as you move your feet without being Like i'm

1002
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:12,120
Speaker 15: just gonna go, Right he's, like, oh that foot's, Up

1003
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:16,279
Speaker 15: i'll go, left stop behind the back stop cross one

1004
00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:17,920
Speaker 15: of the best Shooters i've ever, Seen.

1005
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:20,560
Speaker 2: Like how About Sean Marion hall of very?

1006
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:28,640
Speaker 15: Good, dude these are hard questions Because Sean, marion.

1007
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:32,200
Speaker 11: He how is he not in The hall Of? Fame,

1008
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:35,640
Speaker 11: Though like he did win a chip, though right In, dallas.

1009
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:39,279
Speaker 2: And to have a shot that, started you, know at

1010
00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:42,919
Speaker 2: his belly. Button but, no like.

1011
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:44,080
Speaker 11: The fact that he would.

1012
00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:46,880
Speaker 15: Shoot the thing about it is it wasn't the, prettiest

1013
00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 15: but he always made it when it, counted which made

1014
00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:52,960
Speaker 15: it even. Worse, Right but like his impact on, basketball

1015
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:55,440
Speaker 15: it was, like, oh you're you're playing good, here let

1016
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:57,560
Speaker 15: me shut that water. Off oh your center's playing good,

1017
00:52:57,680 --> 00:52:59,680
Speaker 15: here let me go guard. Him your guard's playing. Good

1018
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:03,200
Speaker 15: and like his, motor his bounce like. THAT i think

1019
00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:05,120
Speaker 15: we got a look back at like those early two

1020
00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:08,799
Speaker 15: thousand power. Forwards that era is actually so much fun to.

1021
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:12,480
Speaker 15: WATCH i was thinking about guys, like you, Know chris

1022
00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:16,040
Speaker 15: came in And LaMarcus Aldri Jen boozer And memonokor and,

1023
00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 15: uh you know OBVIOUSLY Kg, kevin you Had David, west

1024
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:24,319
Speaker 15: you Had Chris, boss you HAD i, mean it was a.

1025
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:26,920
Speaker 15: Monster Tim, DUNCAN i, WAS i, mean who AM I

1026
00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:28,239
Speaker 15: but like you, know it was a.

1027
00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:30,360
Speaker 11: Monster every single night playing those, Dudes.

1028
00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:32,560
Speaker 2: And, yeah you guys should do a podcast on that power.

1029
00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:33,480
Speaker 2: Forwards we.

1030
00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:35,319
Speaker 11: Should you, Know richard be talking to.

1031
00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:39,279
Speaker 2: Me great to catch up with you.

1032
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 11: ALWAYS i appreciate you. Guys have a good.

1033
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:45,440
Speaker 2: Week That's Channing fry turn your SPORTS nba analyst co

1034
00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:50,279
Speaker 2: host a road tripping. Podcast also is a wine partnership

1035
00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:54,000
Speaker 2: with a former, Teammate Kevin. LOVE i love when you

1036
00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:59,120
Speaker 2: ask these guys about certain, players Because Stephan marbury was

1037
00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:03,000
Speaker 2: an incredible he just he had a better career In.

1038
00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:06,920
Speaker 2: China you, know The knicks were a mess back then

1039
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:11,200
Speaker 2: when he was, playing but he, was like you forget

1040
00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:14,200
Speaker 2: just how great he. Was, Yes, marv he.

1041
00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:16,800
Speaker 8: Was one of the first one and dons he is

1042
00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:19,399
Speaker 8: At Georgia tech for one. Years, like, no he's going

1043
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:19,600
Speaker 8: to the.

1044
00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:20,560
Speaker 2: League, yeah.

1045
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:24,640
Speaker 9: Seton, YEAH i feel Like Stefan marberry in some. Ways

1046
00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:27,200
Speaker 9: for some, players as great as they, are it isn't

1047
00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:29,160
Speaker 9: always the play that stands in the, Way but it's

1048
00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:32,840
Speaker 9: just the, timing you, know and sometimes timing is just.

1049
00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:34,799
Speaker 9: Wrong you, know you might be the right player at

1050
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:37,879
Speaker 9: the wrong time or wrong. Team, yeah wrong. Team there's

1051
00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:39,880
Speaker 9: a lot of things that there's a lot of different

1052
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:41,960
Speaker 9: factors that go into the success of a.

1053
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:42,360
Speaker 2: Player