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Speaker 1: So I thought today I'll bang out a big mail bag.

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Speaker 1: talented than Philip Rivers. So you have an elite coach,

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Speaker 1: You had an awful, embarrassing game. It happens, it doesn't

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Speaker 1: happen often to like Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers and

429
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Speaker 1: Peyton Manning. Hey, this guy's not that. Lamar Jackson's had

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Speaker 1: some bad games in the playoffs, like really bad games

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Speaker 1: before last year. So I think you just got a

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Speaker 1: Peyton Manning had some inexcume usual bad performances early in

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Speaker 1: his career. I'm not comparing all these players like to

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Speaker 1: each other in the sense of like Justin Herbert's gonna

435
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Speaker 1: be Lamar Jackson went to MVPs and leads you to

436
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Speaker 1: the number one seeds where he's gonna be Peyton Manning.

437
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Speaker 1: But it's like there are a lot of players that

438
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Speaker 1: have had bad playoff games This is not the NBA

439
00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:20,480
Speaker 1: or the Major League Baseball, where you could have a

440
00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:22,560
Speaker 1: bad game in a series and you get six more

441
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Speaker 1: chances at it or guaranteed another couple of games. It's football.

442
00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:29,720
Speaker 1: You have one bad game, you're done. Like the NCAA tournament.

443
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Speaker 1: John cal Party had some bad games his last five

444
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Speaker 1: years of Kentucky and he's out in the first or

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Speaker 1: second round. So I just think you just gotta be optimistic,

446
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Speaker 1: because I would be, and I don't have a dog

447
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Speaker 1: in the fight. Beside, I root for Jim Horball. I

448
00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:47,120
Speaker 1: like Justin Herbert, but it's like, I'm not an Oregon

449
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Speaker 1: guy necessarily, though I mean I kind of. I'm a

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Speaker 1: West Coast Pac twelve guy, but they're in the Big

451
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Speaker 1: ten now. He's an easy guy to root for, But

452
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Speaker 1: I wouldn't stake my life savings on that he's gonna

453
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Speaker 1: be some superstar. But I'm pretty confident that he's gonna

454
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Speaker 1: have a very very positive career. I would say there

455
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Speaker 1: are bright days ahead, big draft for the Chargers to

456
00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:14,119
Speaker 1: get some skill. Guys. Watch all the episodes. I'm a

457
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Speaker 1: lifelong Jets fan. I just saw Collins take on the

458
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Speaker 1: Rogers breakup and I'm confused by his reaction and a

459
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Speaker 1: lot of the media's reaction to it as well. Seems

460
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Speaker 1: like the world is always against the Jets. No matter

461
00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:28,440
Speaker 1: what they do, it'll be wrong. I think they made

462
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Speaker 1: the right move, especially with the new regime coming in.

463
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Speaker 1: My question is why does everyone hate us? I know

464
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Speaker 1: the top isn't competent at times, but the future feels brighter.

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Speaker 1: Can the mood change and will we forever be the

466
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Speaker 1: same old Jets? I think when you get caught up

467
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Speaker 1: in the circle of as a team that you know

468
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Speaker 1: I've used this example before, but like Bill Simmons, you know,

469
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Speaker 1: back when he wrote a column, had the Tyson zone,

470
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Speaker 1: and there were certain things that fell in that, like

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Speaker 1: when a story would come out about Donald Sterling and

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Speaker 1: the Clippers, or when a story would come out about

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Speaker 1: Whitney Houston or Michael Jackson. There's nothing crazy enough that

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Speaker 1: you wouldn't believe. I do believe there's some so sort

475
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Speaker 1: of like dysfunctional zone, fair or not. Once you enter

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Speaker 1: that like arena, it is hard to break out of.

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Speaker 1: I'm from Davis, California, which is separated from Sacramento by

478
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Speaker 1: a thing called the Causeway. Little game called the causeway

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Speaker 1: classic UC Davis for Sacramento State. When you cross that causeway,

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Speaker 1: I guess the arena is actually closer now. The Sacramento

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Speaker 1: Kings playing downtown Sacramento. They used to play into Thomas

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Speaker 1: at Arco Arena, which was an old school arena that

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Speaker 1: I think they blew it up. Maybe it's still erect,

484
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Speaker 1: but they play in this new, actually really beautiful Golden

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Speaker 1: One arena. When you bring up the Kings, there is

486
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Speaker 1: nothing that could the Sacramento Kings could do that you

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Speaker 1: wouldn't believe. It's like they fired everyone in the organization.

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Speaker 1: The vek fired every single the GM and the coach. No,

489
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Speaker 1: like every single employee. He's gonna hire from scratch. He'd

490
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Speaker 1: be like, seems crazy, but it's believable. It's like when

491
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Speaker 1: the Jets came out, not even that crazy. They offered whatever,

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Speaker 1: one hundred and seventy five people of their two hundred

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Speaker 1: and fifty employees a year whatever the severance calculator was

494
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Speaker 1: like three weeks for every year you'd work for the organization.

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Speaker 1: Maybe it was five weeks, whatever the number was to leave.

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Speaker 1: It was like, that's the Jets, even though it's not

497
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Speaker 1: even that crazy. When you say it out loud, but

498
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Speaker 1: it is kind of crazy because no one else does that.

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Speaker 1: I think when you get caught in that cycle, I'm like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I believe that would happen. I saw it forever when

501
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Speaker 1: the Raiders kind of were going through their moving thing

502
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:52,240
Speaker 1: in the mid twenty tens, you could be like, yeah,

503
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:53,880
Speaker 1: Mark Dave is gonna pick up the team and move.

504
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:57,160
Speaker 1: They start throwing out ran like they're gonna move to Austin, Texas.

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Speaker 1: They've looked at Boise, Idaho, They've looked at they just

506
00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:04,679
Speaker 1: start throwing out random cities like Portland, Oregon. Like you

507
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Speaker 1: just started kind of like, yeah, I don't think it's

508
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Speaker 1: gonna happen, but they just start throwing shit at the wall.

509
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Speaker 1: That's kind of the world the Jets are in because

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Speaker 1: I'm with you, Aaron Rodgers, but hurt that he had

511
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Speaker 1: flew himself out there when they could have told them

512
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Speaker 1: like being fired is not easy. I bet Aaron Glenn

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Speaker 1: looked at it like I'd rather say it to his

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Speaker 1: face than say it over the phone. And again I'm

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Speaker 1: taking an educated guest here, but he's a former player

516
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Speaker 1: played in the NFL forever. It's like, maybe he's like,

517
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Speaker 1: maybe better if I could say it to his face.

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, who has no no history with ever being

519
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Speaker 1: told you're fired, you're cut, pack your shit, clean out

520
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Speaker 1: your locker room. It's like a beautiful girl she used

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Speaker 1: to being treated a little differently than most of us,

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Speaker 1: right when she walks into a bar, when she walks

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Speaker 1: into a club, when she just lives her life. If

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, one day she woke up and

525
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Speaker 1: she was ugly, it would probably be a pretty tough

526
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Speaker 1: transition because she was used to being treated one way.

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Speaker 1: Now she's probably gonna be treated a little different, just

528
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Speaker 1: in everyday society. Aaron Rodgers once was an elite. He

529
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 1: was as good at doing what is impossible as anyone

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Speaker 1: in the history of football. They just don't exist. We

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Speaker 1: have a short list. We all consider him. Even if

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Speaker 1: you're a Rogers hater, we all agree he's, like, I

533
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Speaker 1: don't know, one of the top ten greatest quarterbacks in

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Speaker 1: the history of a sport that's been playing at a

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Speaker 1: really high level now for even if you don't want

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Speaker 1: to count, like the fifty to sixty some of those years,

537
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Speaker 1: Like I don't know, set fifty plus years, he's one

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Speaker 1: of the ten best to ever do it. He replaced

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Speaker 1: Brett Favre, and I think most people remove the emotion.

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00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 1: Brett was a more enjoyable player to watch play. I

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Speaker 1: think now maybe it's a little massage that I was younger,

542
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Speaker 1: but Aaron's a better player, So in his he's whatever

543
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Speaker 1: he always wanted. He got money status for the first

544
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Speaker 1: time in his professional life. He kind of got treated

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Speaker 1: like everyone else. And when you don't not used to

546
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Speaker 1: getting treated like everyone else, it's probably gonna be pretty humbly.

547
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Speaker 1: It's one thing if you grew up poor and then

548
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Speaker 1: you make a bunch of money and by the time

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Speaker 1: you're fifty you are considered really, really rich and you

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Speaker 1: live a great life. Big homes, private jets, country clubs,

551
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Speaker 1: you name it. You do have the perspective of what

552
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Speaker 1: it was like like not having a pot to piss

553
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Speaker 1: in when I was twenty five, starting from nothing. Kids

554
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Speaker 1: can't relate to that, right, So it's about perspective most

555
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Speaker 1: human beings in the NFL, the draft's about to happen.

556
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Speaker 1: Most guys that will get drafted, it's a humbling experience.

557
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Speaker 1: They don't go as high as they thought. Some half

558
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Speaker 1: of them will get cut before you know the regular

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Speaker 1: season starts. They have to go practice squad. They won't

560
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Speaker 1: become starters. They'll have to Even the guys that get

561
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Speaker 1: to play, many of them will struggle. It'll just be

562
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Speaker 1: a larn I you know, it'll be tough. Aaron's had

563
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Speaker 1: to wait a little bit to play, but for the

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Speaker 1: last seventeen years he's been considered an elite, I mean,

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Speaker 1: one of the top, like Brady Manning Rogers, and that's

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Speaker 1: what we talked about. And now Aaron Glenn's like, you're done.

567
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Speaker 1: Even he can say I saw it coming. Yeah, I've

568
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 1: been fired when I saw it coming. He's still humbling

569
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Speaker 1: to hear. I don't care who you are, and I

570
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:27,960
Speaker 1: definitely wasn't the equivalent Aaron Rodgers when it happened to me.

571
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Speaker 1: Many of you that have, you know, lost a job

572
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:33,720
Speaker 1: or been laid off or whatever, even if you don't

573
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Speaker 1: even want to be there, even if you're looking for

574
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Speaker 1: other gigs, even if you have another job late lined up.

575
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Speaker 1: I just think I don't think what the Jets did

576
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 1: was that crazy. There's no perfect way to fire anyone ever.

577
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Speaker 1: Question for the mail bag. I grew up in Philly

578
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Speaker 1: and loved the Eagles. I'm twenty five and overall I've

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Speaker 1: seen consistent great football. You've lived a pretty good life.

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00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:57,120
Speaker 1: Something I always think about if I were an NFL

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Speaker 1: player prospect, what are the top five teams I want

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Speaker 1: to get drafted by, traded to, or sign with as

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Speaker 1: a free agent, And inversely, what are the five teams

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Speaker 1: I'd hate to end up with? Bias a side, it

585
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 1: feels like Philly has become one of the most desirable

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Speaker 1: destinations in the league. You've got the same success, a

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Speaker 1: front office that take cares of stars early, a national spotlight,

588
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Speaker 1: in a top tier franchise in a massive sports market.

589
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Speaker 1: Do you think like this in terms of dream destinations

590
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Speaker 1: across the league? What are the top five teams you

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00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 1: would be a static to land with right now? And

592
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Speaker 1: also the bottom five? Obviously, if you could choose, you

593
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 1: would want to go to the good teams, right, But

594
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Speaker 1: I think sometimes if you're a player, right, if I'm

595
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Speaker 1: a rookie, would I rather be drafted third overall and

596
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Speaker 1: go to the Giants or fall to the end of

597
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Speaker 1: the first round and go thirty second to the Eagles.

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Speaker 1: I think it's easy to go. You'd rather go to

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Speaker 1: the Eagles. But I think sometimes if you're a player,

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Speaker 1: you go, well, I get way more money and a

601
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Speaker 1: way worse team where I get to shine. So I

602
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Speaker 1: think it's different as a drafted player, and things in

603
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 1: the NFL change really fast. Like if you were drafted

604
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 1: the Lions four years ago, it's like got you got

605
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 1: drafted the Lions. That's where you're now. It's like, what

606
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 1: a great football spot to be in. Obviously there are teams,

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Speaker 1: you know, the Ravens with Howie, with with Andy and Veach,

608
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 1: the Bills now with Josh. I mean there are certain

609
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 1: teams there's gonna be pretty good to play in, right,

610
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Speaker 1: But also if you're on the Eagles, what position do

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Speaker 1: you play? Because if I'm drafted to the Eagles and

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Speaker 1: I'm a wide receiver, I might not play. So would

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Speaker 1: I rather go to a team that has a crappier

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Speaker 1: Would I rather go to the Raiders and maybe have

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Speaker 1: a chance to be a star and then improve my

616
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Speaker 1: status when I do hit free agency? So I think

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Speaker 1: when you're a free agent, you would rather go to

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs. All the good teams, but they usually have

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Speaker 1: the least amount of money and in the league that

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Speaker 1: if you do hit free agency, like there's a reason

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Speaker 1: you're not like a top, top tier player, Like, look

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Speaker 1: at free agency every year. It's not you know, the

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Speaker 1: days of Reggie White hitting free agency are kind of dead.

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Speaker 1: So it's most of who's the best. Milton Williams was

625
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,479
Speaker 1: like the apple of everyone's eye. The dude played fifty

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Speaker 1: percent of the snaps last year for the Eagles, and

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00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:20,720
Speaker 1: again how he didn't even hesitate, like see you, buddy, godspeed.

628
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:23,960
Speaker 1: So I think in football you got to look at

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Speaker 1: this a little bit differently sometimes. Now, if all things

630
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Speaker 1: are equal, if I'm like a just a solid starter,

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Speaker 1: and I can get five million dollars from one of

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00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:35,240
Speaker 1: the good teams or the Jags, it's a no brainer.

633
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:38,319
Speaker 1: But it's not usually the way it works. So I

634
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:42,440
Speaker 1: hear what you're saying. It's not quite like college football

635
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Speaker 1: that way, where it's like, of course, if I go

636
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 1: to Alabama, Georgia, Ohio State, Texas, I go there right

637
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:54,319
Speaker 1: over Mississippi State, or I'm trying to think of Arizona

638
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 1: or Arizona State. You'd much rather go to Oregon. But

639
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Speaker 1: in the in the pros, things can change pretty quickly,

640
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Speaker 1: So I think I don't know if you really look

641
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 1: at it like that, But from an overall standpoint, yeah,

642
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 1: your organization right now is elite. A question for the bag,

643
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 1: do you think the NFL should take an approach when

644
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:16,359
Speaker 1: it comes to the draft order selection instead of going

645
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Speaker 1: by worst to best records and automatically giving the number

646
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Speaker 1: one pick to the worst team. Should they do a

647
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 1: lottery high pick but one hundred percent of the teams

648
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 1: that could have good records slim chance getting a high

649
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 1: draft pick. Your thoughts, It's a good question. I would

650
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:34,759
Speaker 1: imagine they already would have done this if this is

651
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Speaker 1: something that was of interest, because think how often in

652
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:41,239
Speaker 1: the pros that they just try different stuff. You would

653
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 1: say no league randomly tries stuff more than the NFL,

654
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 1: especially when it comes to their television product. It's like Christmas,

655
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 1: we'll take over Christmas. We'll do Saturday games. Post college

656
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 1: football will bunch Saturday games. They're just constantly good. Almost

657
00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:03,320
Speaker 1: say good Friday, Friday, Cyber Monday? What was What's Friday

658
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 1: called Cyber Monday? Is crazy? Shows you what world we

659
00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:10,880
Speaker 1: live in. Whatever the days after Thanksgiving, my mind's not working.

660
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:16,240
Speaker 1: I think the NFL, they are constantly throwing every idea possible.

661
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:18,759
Speaker 1: This feels like something that doesn't interest them at all.

662
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 1: I do believe that in like Wednesday of like wild

663
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Speaker 1: card weekend. Imagine if you just held the lottery, I

664
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:28,840
Speaker 1: mean it was just the lottery of the NFL. I

665
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 1: think it would do huge numbers. A little surprise that

666
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:34,479
Speaker 1: it's never even come up, but I have never heard

667
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 1: anyone that covers the NFL. It's like one thing on

668
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Speaker 1: the dock at the owners meetings discussion on a draft lottery.

669
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Speaker 1: I wouldn't complain if they did it, but it does

670
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:50,760
Speaker 1: feel like something that's not of interest to them, maybe

671
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:54,359
Speaker 1: because a huge part of the success of the NFL

672
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 1: in theory is parody. Though they're very driven by the

673
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:02,920
Speaker 1: top teams. I don't know'd be fascinating to get like

674
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 1: Roger and a couple owners and ask why they would

675
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 1: never even entertain it. Question for the pod fun question,

676
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 1: I'm from Texas. I love watching both Who had a

677
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:16,359
Speaker 1: bigger impact on college football between Johnny Manzel and Vince Young?

678
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 1: Easy to say Vince because of the ring, but Johnny's

679
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:24,400
Speaker 1: influence was insane. I think you could have like an

680
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Speaker 1: argument of like culturally, like who was more important when

681
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Speaker 1: I was like in junior high in high school, Alan

682
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 1: Iverson or Kobe Bryant. Well, Kobe was the much better player,

683
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:40,720
Speaker 1: much more accomplished player, but it felt like Alan Iverson

684
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:45,720
Speaker 1: had this huge cultural impact, right, But Kobe was a winner,

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00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:48,760
Speaker 1: the dude that like as time went on, everyone aspired

686
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:51,360
Speaker 1: to work out like him, even though AI was drinking

687
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 1: all night and then playing the next day and dropping

688
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 1: forty five. I think there's an element like Vince Young

689
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:59,279
Speaker 1: in college had one of the most memorable games of

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00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 1: my lifetime any sport, him beating USC which I still

691
00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:06,759
Speaker 1: think is the highest rated championship game ever, one of

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00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 1: the great teams we've ever seen in the history of

693
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:12,920
Speaker 1: the sport, and his iconic touchdown run was the moment

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Speaker 1: that beat sc LA. I mean it felt like they

695
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 1: had had they lost a game in like two years.

696
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 1: So from a more accomplished player would be Vince National champion,

697
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 1: got drafted really high in terms of cultural impact and

698
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Speaker 1: I would say lasting impact that we still feel today.

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Speaker 1: It feels like Johnny I mean one, Johnny won the

700
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:42,319
Speaker 1: Heisman as a red shirt freshman, which could be wrong

701
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 1: to some of you college historians. Was he the youngest

702
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:46,799
Speaker 1: player to ever win the Heisman Trophy because before it

703
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:51,920
Speaker 1: was only juniors and seniors winning it. Again, did Tebow

704
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:54,880
Speaker 1: win it? I'd probably get scolded by some of you dieheart's,

705
00:38:54,960 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 1: but I would say culturally, Johnny Manziel, for sure, good question.

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Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on the ceiling of JJ? As

707
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 1: a lifelong Vikings fan, it's given me very pessimistic view

708
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Speaker 1: of our future. Why Donald somewhat collapsed in the last

709
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 1: two games. I love Donald, but it's okay to say

710
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 1: to remove the somewhat. I don't think it was all

711
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 1: his fault. He was the first quarterback we've had since

712
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 1: far that gave me really optimism. While I feel like

713
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:26,840
Speaker 1: we have a great roster, I know how bad the

714
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:30,440
Speaker 1: season could still go if the quarterback situation goes to

715
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Speaker 1: complete shit. I'm torn because just that preseason game, I

716
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:43,359
Speaker 1: remember he had a sweet touchdown throw. You saw some

717
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:48,399
Speaker 1: physical attributes. It was really really impressive. But been doing

718
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:49,920
Speaker 1: this long enough to know, I think you got to

719
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:53,399
Speaker 1: be very careful in the preseason, and anytime you get

720
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:57,120
Speaker 1: injured early, it can derail the start of your career.

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Speaker 1: From a physical standpoint, Obviously, he lost some and I

722
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Speaker 1: think there's a pressure on a guy that's going to

723
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Speaker 1: a really really good team. Obviously he did in college.

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Speaker 1: He took over a team that had really high expectations.

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Speaker 1: A couple of years later, they won the National Championship.

726
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Speaker 1: The pressures in the NFL are pretty high, are higher

727
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:19,399
Speaker 1: than even in Michigan, especially when you factor in they

728
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:21,280
Speaker 1: just had one of the best records in the NFL

729
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:25,920
Speaker 1: and he's taken over a roster that's improved. So I

730
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:31,840
Speaker 1: think the non tangible stuff is really hard. And before

731
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:35,879
Speaker 1: you know, his Michigan team, the coach was the star.

732
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 1: So Jim took so much pressure off JJ. The way

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Speaker 1: they played, their entire offensive and defensive lines were drafted

734
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:45,919
Speaker 1: and are gonna get drafted. They had whatever fifteen guys

735
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Speaker 1: drafted last year. They're gonna have four guys drafted in

736
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:50,560
Speaker 1: the top like thirty this year. I mean that team

737
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:53,359
Speaker 1: was like an Alabama team. It was. It doesn't get

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Speaker 1: any better. There's a reason they beat the shit out

739
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Speaker 1: of everybody. Hell, they beat Nick Saban in his last game.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they who had multiple players get drafted really

741
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 1: high the following year. So it's I think it's really

742
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Speaker 1: really difficult. It's hard for me to say how high

743
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 1: a ceiling is, because like, he's not the most physically

744
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 1: gifted guy, he's clearly pretty talented. I mean a lot

745
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 1: of people are comparing him to Alex Smith comps. Now,

746
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 1: if he's Alex Smith, they'd be fine. But Alex Smith

747
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 1: didn't become Alex Smith to like six seven, eight years

748
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:29,400
Speaker 1: into the NFL. Now, Alex also had Singletary as his coach.

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Speaker 1: So you get Kevin O'Connell, you get a high level organization.

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Speaker 1: It's a cool it's a coolest wrong word. It's an

751
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:40,880
Speaker 1: advantageous landing spot and starting spot, just like going to

752
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 1: Michigan was for him. But it is a difficult spot.

753
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:48,160
Speaker 1: And the thing is in pros, especially Pro football, because

754
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 1: every game is so magnified. What if you just start

755
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 1: slow and all of a sudden, the vikings are like

756
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 1: two and two and he's kind of playing shitty. He's like, chirp, chirp, chirp, chirp.

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00:41:56,640 --> 00:42:01,360
Speaker 1: It just it'd be a lot. I don't use Instagram,

758
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:04,239
Speaker 1: so I'm sending this off my girlfriend's phone. Longtime Packer fan,

759
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:09,919
Speaker 1: Good work there, buddy. Since it's draft week, it got

760
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 1: me thinking, do you think teams put too much value

761
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 1: into the first round. If I'm a GM and it

762
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:17,720
Speaker 1: hits fifty percent of the first round picks, we're doing great.

763
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 1: I understand teams who have multiple holes to fill if

764
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 1: not trading away picks. I just don't feel like the

765
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 1: upper tier teams lion Bill's, Ravens, etc. Really make those

766
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 1: moves either, and are willing to draft a player and

767
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:32,479
Speaker 1: then go without a first round pick for a year

768
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:35,239
Speaker 1: and then trade for a plug and play star. Love

769
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:41,800
Speaker 1: to get your thoughts. I'm trying to get your exact question.

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Speaker 1: You either mean, should I trade up to get a

771
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:48,799
Speaker 1: plug and play impact player or trade back to try

772
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:51,879
Speaker 1: to get more picks. I saw to day that Adam

773
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:55,960
Speaker 1: Schefter put out the forty nine ers want to get out,

774
00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:59,840
Speaker 1: are willing to trade back. I think most teams in

775
00:42:59,880 --> 00:43:03,120
Speaker 1: the draft would gladly go from like pick eight to

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00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:05,600
Speaker 1: fifteen and pick up some seconds and some thirds. I

777
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:08,720
Speaker 1: think the Niners wouldn't hesitate to go from like eleven

778
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 1: to twenty and pick up a second round pick. I

779
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:15,880
Speaker 1: think I saw a headline. This would have been like

780
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:18,480
Speaker 1: three or four days ago. I went home for Easter,

781
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:19,960
Speaker 1: so I was like in the plane, it was kind

782
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:23,200
Speaker 1: of a crazy We went home for like less than

783
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 1: thirty hours. It was quick trip, honestly easy. But you know,

784
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:29,359
Speaker 1: you're in the airport, you're kind of on your phone,

785
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 1: and you're getting on the plane, so you're just a

786
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 1: lot of stuff's going on. I think Schefter put this out.

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00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:36,480
Speaker 1: This is the first time there has not been a

788
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:39,880
Speaker 1: draft day trade or like a trade four draft picks

789
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 1: leading into a draft since like Joe Montana who got

790
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 1: traded five days before the draft. Because this draft's not

791
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:50,799
Speaker 1: for good to the GMS. I'm not just saying that

792
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:53,000
Speaker 1: to say it. It's like the GMS don't view this draft.

793
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:56,200
Speaker 1: I saw McShay say today, and he's right that if

794
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:58,799
Speaker 1: you just went all the top positions on offense, the

795
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:02,719
Speaker 1: best quarter back in this draft cam Ward like he

796
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:05,439
Speaker 1: would probably be the fourth or fifth quarterback last year.

797
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:08,799
Speaker 1: The best offensive lineman in this draft would be like

798
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:11,439
Speaker 1: the fourth or fifth offensive lineman last year. The best

799
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:13,600
Speaker 1: wide receiver in this draft would be like the fifth

800
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 1: or sixth wide receiver last year. You know, the best

801
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 1: Abdul Carter now he would be high. But a lot

802
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 1: of these guys we're talking about a drop off from

803
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 1: last year. So sometimes when teams are willing to trade

804
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:29,080
Speaker 1: up they want impact players. A couple of years ago

805
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 1: when I almost said Will Howard, but I don't think

806
00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 1: that's I don't know why my my brain is not

807
00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 1: working today. Will Anderson That when the Texans traded up

808
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 1: from pick where they drafted CJ. Stroud and then they

809
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:47,719
Speaker 1: trade all the way back up to get Will Anderson,

810
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:50,799
Speaker 1: because I thought Will Anderson was sweet because he kind

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Speaker 1: of is Will Anderson on my team. So I think

812
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 1: you look at this draft, teams get our cold feats

813
00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 1: the wrong word, But just like, why do I I need?

814
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:04,280
Speaker 1: It's like a market. Right when I bought my condo.

815
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 1: When I first bought a place twenty sixteen, you were

816
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:11,279
Speaker 1: bidding against like fifteen people in the Bay Area and

817
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 1: for a long period of time, low interest rates, constantly

818
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 1: bidding against people. Why because low interest rates, people had money,

819
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 1: You could borrow money for nothing. It was just aggressive. Well,

820
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:22,440
Speaker 1: when I bought the house I'm in right now, interest

821
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:25,279
Speaker 1: rates were going up by like the week, it's like

822
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:29,200
Speaker 1: five five and a half six. Well, guess what. The

823
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:31,319
Speaker 1: seller didn't have the same juice that he had three

824
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:33,839
Speaker 1: or four years previously and could bend you over guess what,

825
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:35,920
Speaker 1: you had to bend him over a little bit. So

826
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Speaker 1: the market shifted from a seller's market to a buyer's market.

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Speaker 1: And I think that's sometimes what drafts are. Last year,

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Speaker 1: if you wanted a player that the New England Patriots

829
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:50,239
Speaker 1: laughed at the Giants for trying to trade up for

830
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 1: Drake May, They laughed at him. Adam Peters wouldn't even

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Speaker 1: pick up his phone. You know, fast Cleveland and New

832
00:45:56,840 --> 00:46:00,120
Speaker 1: York would trade back for a haul of picks. It

833
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 1: changes the landscape depending on the market variables. And in football,

834
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:09,239
Speaker 1: the market variables in the draft are the players. And

835
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 1: these players are viewed as, as the kids would say,

836
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:14,160
Speaker 1: kind of mid, which is not fair because some of

837
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:16,200
Speaker 1: these players are gonna go on to be stars, but

838
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:19,120
Speaker 1: that based on their college tape, that's how the league

839
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 1: views them. I thought it would be really cool to

840
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:37,680
Speaker 1: be on your pod. You're definitely my favorite podcaster. I

841
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:41,040
Speaker 1: like this guy. Ready, the Broncos have already shattered expectations.

842
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 1: What do you think they need to get to the

843
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:48,359
Speaker 1: next level? Loving having Peyton and Paton Combo at the helm,

844
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 1: what do you think the Broncos will draft next week?

845
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:53,680
Speaker 1: I think he said it the other day running back.

846
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:55,920
Speaker 1: I think they're going to draft a running back in

847
00:46:56,520 --> 00:47:00,160
Speaker 1: I would guess the second round. But I would say

848
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:03,640
Speaker 1: that Omari and Hampton, if Genti's off the board, would

849
00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 1: be at play for them to draft in the first round.

850
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:07,640
Speaker 1: I think one of the tight ends would be at

851
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:09,480
Speaker 1: play for them to draft in the first round. I

852
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:11,400
Speaker 1: think wide receiver would be at play to draft in

853
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 1: the first round. I think they are going to go

854
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:18,719
Speaker 1: skill positions, so I would expect I don't have the

855
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:21,799
Speaker 1: Broncos draft picks in front of me, but two of

856
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:25,360
Speaker 1: their first three picks offensive skill guys. It would be

857
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:33,440
Speaker 1: my guess. First time listener of the podcast, like your work,

858
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:36,560
Speaker 1: I'm a Dier Jacks fan. I want Genty at pick five.

859
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:39,800
Speaker 1: I know you've been critical of that idea and should

860
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:43,440
Speaker 1: the gent should be considered a top five, six to

861
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:46,920
Speaker 1: seven pick, but in my estimation, he's easily the best

862
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:50,120
Speaker 1: player left remaining in the draft once you get to

863
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 1: pick five. I'm sorry, but I have just witnessed Saquon

864
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:57,759
Speaker 1: and CMC carry their offenses to Super Bowls over the

865
00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:01,479
Speaker 1: past two seasons. I understand that it's considered bad value

866
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:04,480
Speaker 1: to draft a running back that high. But you could

867
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:07,160
Speaker 1: also look at it from the opposite perspective and think,

868
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:10,480
Speaker 1: when genty finally has to get paid, at least you

869
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 1: don't have to dish out a massive contract. Also, receivers

870
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:16,200
Speaker 1: get paid way more than running backs and touch the

871
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:21,400
Speaker 1: ball way less. So what are your thoughts? Well, I

872
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:24,760
Speaker 1: don't think. I don't view him as good as Christian

873
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:29,360
Speaker 1: McCaffrey or Saquon Barkley coming out of college. So Saquon

874
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:33,279
Speaker 1: Barkley went to Christian McCaffrey, I think went eight. I

875
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:37,400
Speaker 1: view both those guys as much better prospects, like I

876
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 1: think they both You know, drafting and running back that

877
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:44,160
Speaker 1: high is pretty crazy, But I would take ranking one

878
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:46,040
Speaker 1: coming out of Penn State, one coming out of Stanford,

879
00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 1: and one coming out of Boise to me, he's third

880
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 1: on that list just using those two examples. But using

881
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:55,680
Speaker 1: your example of them carrying teams to playoffs, I wouldn't

882
00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:58,839
Speaker 1: say sa Quanders or Christian carried their team to playoffs, right,

883
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:02,560
Speaker 1: Their defenses were good, the quarterbacks had good years or

884
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:06,400
Speaker 1: good games. Pretty had a good year, you know, hurts

885
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:08,959
Speaker 1: had good games and when it was really important, played well.

886
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:13,919
Speaker 1: But they didn't get drafted by the Niners or the Eagles. Right,

887
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:17,719
Speaker 1: the Niners traded for Christian a second and a third

888
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:21,080
Speaker 1: round pick and a fourth I think, so they trade

889
00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:25,319
Speaker 1: a lot. And the Eagles just signed Saquon Barkley. So

890
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:30,960
Speaker 1: is your guys offensive line good? You know, we saw

891
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:34,520
Speaker 1: Gent go up against Penn State, who obviously has an

892
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:38,360
Speaker 1: awesome defense, especially a good front, and Boise is not

893
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:40,919
Speaker 1: gonna have the offensive line relative to their defensive line

894
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:44,919
Speaker 1: and kind of got overmatched and Gent couldn't do that much.

895
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:47,680
Speaker 1: So the same thing happened with Saquon in New York.

896
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:50,239
Speaker 1: And listen, I feel like I hate I'm not I

897
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:53,520
Speaker 1: love the player, but I've seen a lot of people

898
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:56,200
Speaker 1: are like, even just recently, if you're comparing him to

899
00:49:56,840 --> 00:50:01,000
Speaker 1: Barry Sanders, like, I'm sorry, I'm out Smith was small,

900
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:04,320
Speaker 1: So that's our comp Emmett Smith. We're comparing him to

901
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:07,600
Speaker 1: Emmett Smith, who I'm pretty sure came out of Florida.

902
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:10,279
Speaker 1: Didn't Emmitt Smith win the Heisman? Obviously, Barry was like

903
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:12,040
Speaker 1: one of the greatest college running backs of all time

904
00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:15,160
Speaker 1: at Oklahoma State. Like, if that's your comp then it's

905
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:18,440
Speaker 1: like if cam Ward's comp is Patrick Mahomes, we got problems.

906
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:22,520
Speaker 1: Let's make normal people comps and it's like, yeah, he

907
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:25,359
Speaker 1: breaks a lot of tackles. Well yeah, New Mexico, Fresno State,

908
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:30,200
Speaker 1: San Diego State. That is not like the NFL players.

909
00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:34,000
Speaker 1: It's just not so. And if we compare him to

910
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:37,839
Speaker 1: Jamior Gibbs, also a shorter player, well I would take

911
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:42,160
Speaker 1: gent and Tyler Warren because that's what they got. They

912
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:46,280
Speaker 1: got Jamiir Gibbs and Laporta. The other thing is Jamier

913
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:50,080
Speaker 1: Gibbs is an elite wide receiver. Jamier Gibbs like CMC,

914
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:54,480
Speaker 1: like Alvin Kamara, you know, like some of these wider

915
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 1: LT and Marshall Falk, they could just play wide receiver.

916
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:02,840
Speaker 1: Jamier Gibbs could just play wide receiver. Right can Genty

917
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:05,359
Speaker 1: because to me, Genty's much more of a running back,

918
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:07,840
Speaker 1: a little bit more like Saquon. Well, Saquon's like one

919
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:12,600
Speaker 1: of the fastest players in the league. Gentz wouldn't even

920
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:16,640
Speaker 1: run a forty. So I just think this time of

921
00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:20,880
Speaker 1: year it sucks because you can have a really unreal prospect.

922
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:26,040
Speaker 1: But we just got to ask like critical questions. I

923
00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:28,880
Speaker 1: was going back. Saquon ran a four to four to

924
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:31,560
Speaker 1: zero coming out of College at two hundred and thirty

925
00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:35,239
Speaker 1: three pounds and in the Big Ten ran for four

926
00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 1: thousand yards and forty three touchdowns. I just think comparing

927
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:48,400
Speaker 1: Genty to Saquon or Barry Sanders feels fucking insane. I

928
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:52,440
Speaker 1: mean insane. If he is, then he'll be one of

929
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:55,520
Speaker 1: the greatest picks of all time because he'll go somewhere

930
00:51:55,520 --> 00:52:00,640
Speaker 1: between five and twelve and become Barry Sanders. So if

931
00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:02,719
Speaker 1: he's Barry Sanders, then yeah, I'd take him pliers with

932
00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:09,560
Speaker 1: the Jacks. I just think it's pretty risky taking a

933
00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:13,360
Speaker 1: running back from Boise State at five overall, even in

934
00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:16,080
Speaker 1: a bad draft, I'd rather just take I don't know

935
00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:18,839
Speaker 1: Michigan's defense tackle that worst case scenario. I know I'm

936
00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:21,320
Speaker 1: can probably get a solid player. We have seen running

937
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:27,720
Speaker 1: backs not work out. Uh. I thought maybe you would

938
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 1: add this to the mailbox, AKA I call the mail bag,

939
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:33,880
Speaker 1: but we can call it the mailbox. What do you

940
00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:38,040
Speaker 1: think constitutes a draft bust? Cleveland media still remain maintains

941
00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:41,600
Speaker 1: that Baker was a bust, while Tampa City in locker

942
00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:44,360
Speaker 1: room loves him. Is it possible both are true? He

943
00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:47,480
Speaker 1: was a bust for Cleveland being that he was taken

944
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:50,160
Speaker 1: at number one, yet he was going to have a

945
00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:54,080
Speaker 1: very successful career as a Buck with one more contract

946
00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:58,600
Speaker 1: extension that will he'll hold all Tampa quarterback records. I

947
00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:01,040
Speaker 1: think to be a bust, you have to be a

948
00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:06,560
Speaker 1: bad player. So a bust isn't just like Cleveland's problem,

949
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:09,200
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield would have had to be a bad player.

950
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:14,880
Speaker 1: Like a bust is Trey Lance, like that's a bust,

951
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:17,960
Speaker 1: Like that's just he's just not good enough to play

952
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 1: in the NFL. But if you the forty nine ers

953
00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:24,879
Speaker 1: drafted Solomon Thomas number three overall, Solomon Thomas is gonna

954
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:27,640
Speaker 1: have like a fourteen year career. Now, it was a

955
00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:30,440
Speaker 1: missed pick by the forty nine ers, but Solomon Thomas

956
00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:34,920
Speaker 1: is not a bust. Baker Mayfield is not a bust

957
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:37,840
Speaker 1: because he's gonna he's gonna make Pro Bowls. But it

958
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:40,920
Speaker 1: was the wrong pick for Cleveland, or it was a

959
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:43,200
Speaker 1: miss because he doesn't you didn't get a second contract

960
00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:48,239
Speaker 1: for them. So I think most players are fall under

961
00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:52,560
Speaker 1: that category, right, because the percentage of guys that signed

962
00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:57,000
Speaker 1: contract extensions, it's like ten to fifteen guys a team. Right,

963
00:53:57,480 --> 00:53:59,880
Speaker 1: the I draft and then I signed to a contract extension.

964
00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:02,920
Speaker 1: We'd have to do a study on that, but it's

965
00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:05,359
Speaker 1: not that high. The Eagles do it a lot, right,

966
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:13,839
Speaker 1: Lane Johnson, Jurgens Dickerson, Jalen Goddard, Devonte Smith. Right, they

967
00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:16,680
Speaker 1: have a crew of guys that they drafted and they extended.

968
00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:20,799
Speaker 1: Those are hits. But to me, a bust is a

969
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:25,600
Speaker 1: guy that I draft and then he sucks for the Eagles.

970
00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:31,120
Speaker 1: Danny Watkins draft him, not good enough out of the league.

971
00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:34,440
Speaker 1: But a miss is like, well, this guy stays in

972
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:37,160
Speaker 1: the league, he just didn't work out for me. That

973
00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:42,399
Speaker 1: is not a bust. So that's how I would compare that.

974
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:46,520
Speaker 1: Can Nico Harrison shut up about the Luca trade. I

975
00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:48,680
Speaker 1: don't want to hear any more about defense or how

976
00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:55,120
Speaker 1: he didn't know how important Luca was to Dallas. I

977
00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:57,120
Speaker 1: used to be told this a lot. It's actually worked

978
00:54:57,120 --> 00:54:59,840
Speaker 1: out to my benefit. But you know, I talk for

979
00:54:59,840 --> 00:55:03,480
Speaker 1: a living. I've always talked a lot, and when you're young,

980
00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:07,080
Speaker 1: sometimes you know your parents, your teachers or whatever don't

981
00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:09,480
Speaker 1: want to hear what you have to say. And you know,

982
00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:12,360
Speaker 1: my dad we used to butt head sometimes because I

983
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:13,839
Speaker 1: was a big I have to have the last word

984
00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:17,239
Speaker 1: and Obviously he's the dad and doesn't like that. So

985
00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:20,560
Speaker 1: you just you get told to shut up, don't say

986
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:25,399
Speaker 1: anything more. Sometimes that advice, it's like, just don't say

987
00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:29,719
Speaker 1: anything more. You'd better off going no comment. But his

988
00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:32,120
Speaker 1: comment today and his end of the season press conference

989
00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:34,320
Speaker 1: that he didn't know how much Luca meant to the city,

990
00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:40,080
Speaker 1: that's that's a tough one question for the bag. I've

991
00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:44,560
Speaker 1: been interviewing for many manufacturing engineering jobs lately, and despite

992
00:55:44,640 --> 00:55:48,479
Speaker 1: having a great resume, I'm having trouble landing the job.

993
00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:52,160
Speaker 1: Do you have any advice for dues and doats don'ts

994
00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:57,160
Speaker 1: when interviewing. Thanks, I'm not a great person to ask.

995
00:55:57,600 --> 00:56:02,000
Speaker 1: I'm forty years old. I've only i mean, like not considering,

996
00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:07,759
Speaker 1: like college, like interviewing for stupid jobs. Had one real

997
00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:10,080
Speaker 1: interview in my life and that was with the Eagles.

998
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:13,359
Speaker 1: You boy got it on the spot. Well, I mean

999
00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:15,399
Speaker 1: I had to go through the interview, but didn't leave

1000
00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:19,440
Speaker 1: without getting the job. So I've interviewed people when I

1001
00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:22,440
Speaker 1: when I was working with Philly or at least helped

1002
00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:29,600
Speaker 1: you know, again, low level positions. It just depends, like

1003
00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:35,040
Speaker 1: if you're really really young, I would just I don't

1004
00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:37,080
Speaker 1: have a girl. I'm actually the wrong person to ask.

1005
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:41,520
Speaker 1: I really am. I had a good friend who's married.

1006
00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:45,840
Speaker 1: She's my good friend as well to she's really impressive.

1007
00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:49,000
Speaker 1: And she left a company pretty recently to get a

1008
00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:52,000
Speaker 1: job with another company, and the company wanted her an interview,

1009
00:56:52,160 --> 00:56:55,840
Speaker 1: and when she showed up, she didn't bring anything, and

1010
00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:57,759
Speaker 1: I think when the interview started they asked her, like,

1011
00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:01,319
Speaker 1: did you bring a resume or whatever. She's like, no,

1012
00:57:02,520 --> 00:57:05,560
Speaker 1: you guys wanted to talk to me. I didn't start this.

1013
00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:08,320
Speaker 1: She realized like after a minute, She's like, that was

1014
00:57:08,360 --> 00:57:11,279
Speaker 1: a pretty bold thing to say, but it worked. Like damn,

1015
00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:14,960
Speaker 1: this chick means business. She's like, you guys want me,

1016
00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:19,640
Speaker 1: I didn't call you up. And so, like I think

1017
00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:22,920
Speaker 1: there's a balance of if you're young, you know what

1018
00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:26,040
Speaker 1: I mean, anding going you need them, You go in

1019
00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:29,000
Speaker 1: bright eyed, bushy tails, try to sell on energy and

1020
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:35,600
Speaker 1: passion because for the most part, people young, their resume

1021
00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:36,920
Speaker 1: is going to be as good as you think it

1022
00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:38,720
Speaker 1: actually is when you walk in there with that piece

1023
00:57:38,720 --> 00:57:41,240
Speaker 1: of paper. Now, once you get to my age forties

1024
00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:43,200
Speaker 1: or fifties, and you've been doing something for a long

1025
00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:45,520
Speaker 1: period of time and you have a lot to fall

1026
00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:48,760
Speaker 1: back on a lot of experience doing whatever you do.

1027
00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:51,120
Speaker 1: Then I think you can kind of be cocky a

1028
00:57:51,160 --> 00:57:55,440
Speaker 1: little bit in those But I don't have great advice

1029
00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:59,400
Speaker 1: just because I haven't been a part of interviewing really,

1030
00:58:01,240 --> 00:58:04,760
Speaker 1: so good luck. I imagine you're young. If you're hitting

1031
00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:07,680
Speaker 1: me up, you look kind of young. I would go in,

1032
00:58:09,080 --> 00:58:13,040
Speaker 1: try to sell on passion, energy and do whatever it takes. Obviously,

1033
00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:17,920
Speaker 1: in your job, the manufacturing engineering, that's also something pretty specific.

1034
00:58:17,960 --> 00:58:21,000
Speaker 1: So maybe that's bad advice. Maybe it really is because

1035
00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:23,640
Speaker 1: something like that, I could walk into that job. They'd

1036
00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:25,320
Speaker 1: be like, we like this guy, we want him part

1037
00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:27,640
Speaker 1: of the company. But you got to have the requisite

1038
00:58:27,680 --> 00:58:31,120
Speaker 1: skills to do that level of engineering. I mean I

1039
00:58:31,160 --> 00:58:34,080
Speaker 1: went to cal paul An engineering school. I was drinking

1040
00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:37,320
Speaker 1: and partying and screwing around for four years. Basically the

1041
00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:41,520
Speaker 1: engineers were in the library working their ass off. So

1042
00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:44,680
Speaker 1: it's whatever you have done to become what you've become

1043
00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:47,400
Speaker 1: your degree, Like, i'd be proud of it and use

1044
00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:50,640
Speaker 1: your advantage, like I'm ready to go. I not only

1045
00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:53,080
Speaker 1: think I know what I'm doing, but I can help

1046
00:58:53,120 --> 00:58:55,040
Speaker 1: this out and learn whatever you need me to know

1047
00:58:55,080 --> 00:58:57,920
Speaker 1: and I'll be ready to rock and roll and dominate

1048
00:58:58,480 --> 00:59:02,080
Speaker 1: the engineering field. So good luck to you God. We're

1049
00:59:02,080 --> 00:59:05,360
Speaker 1: getting some job questions here. I'm in my first job

1050
00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:08,120
Speaker 1: post graduating from my masters. Currently I work in a

1051
00:59:08,240 --> 00:59:10,720
Speaker 1: job that I don't like. Is an hour drive to

1052
00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:14,560
Speaker 1: and from where my boss does unprofessional things like yelling

1053
00:59:14,600 --> 00:59:18,640
Speaker 1: at meetings with clients. Jeez, a little wild card. I

1054
00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:20,760
Speaker 1: have an interview coming up next week with a great

1055
00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:24,520
Speaker 1: company back home. How would you approach leaving my current job?

1056
00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:29,360
Speaker 1: Should I be offered the position? I think if you

1057
00:59:29,920 --> 00:59:31,960
Speaker 1: are in a position where you respect the people who

1058
00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:36,040
Speaker 1: you work with right and care about the lasting relationships,

1059
00:59:36,120 --> 00:59:38,960
Speaker 1: even if they're not guaranteed to pay off in the future,

1060
00:59:39,160 --> 00:59:41,800
Speaker 1: I think you just approach it how everyone else approaches

1061
00:59:41,840 --> 00:59:44,000
Speaker 1: it in the company, right. You give your two weeks,

1062
00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:46,360
Speaker 1: You let them know you'd be very professional about it.

1063
00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:49,280
Speaker 1: If you think this guy is a complete loser and

1064
00:59:49,320 --> 00:59:52,280
Speaker 1: they've treated you shitty and you don't care, and you're

1065
00:59:52,280 --> 00:59:56,840
Speaker 1: pretty confident that, like whatever, I wouldn't really worry about it.

1066
00:59:56,920 --> 00:59:59,080
Speaker 1: Whatever the protocol is, give them your two weeks, or

1067
00:59:59,160 --> 01:00:01,720
Speaker 1: you can just quit whenever. I don't exactly know where

1068
01:00:01,720 --> 01:00:06,280
Speaker 1: your situation is but I would I wouldn't say a

1069
01:00:06,280 --> 01:00:08,600
Speaker 1: peep until I got the job, And then once I

1070
01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:12,760
Speaker 1: got the job, I would spend much time thinking about

1071
01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:16,880
Speaker 1: it besides just letting them know you're leaving. You want

1072
01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:19,240
Speaker 1: to get away from this, this wild card, that's for sure.

1073
01:00:21,080 --> 01:00:23,960
Speaker 1: How much do organizations consider division opponents when it comes

1074
01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:26,560
Speaker 1: to the team building process. I think it really used

1075
01:00:26,600 --> 01:00:30,800
Speaker 1: to matter, like really mattered back. You know, you heard

1076
01:00:30,800 --> 01:00:33,160
Speaker 1: so many old school people in the eighties and the nineties,

1077
01:00:33,760 --> 01:00:36,120
Speaker 1: in the two thousands. I do wonder with seventeen games

1078
01:00:36,160 --> 01:00:41,480
Speaker 1: now eighteen games, if it's a little less at the forefront,

1079
01:00:41,600 --> 01:00:44,360
Speaker 1: not that it's not important, Like if you're playing the Eagles,

1080
01:00:44,360 --> 01:00:47,000
Speaker 1: you better have a good offensive line. If you can't block,

1081
01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:48,760
Speaker 1: if you don't have good guards and centers like Jalen

1082
01:00:48,800 --> 01:00:51,200
Speaker 1: Carter is gonna kill you, Nolan Senith's gonna come off

1083
01:00:51,240 --> 01:00:53,280
Speaker 1: the edge. If you don't have guys that can tackle,

1084
01:00:53,320 --> 01:00:56,760
Speaker 1: how you're gonna stop? Sayuon Barkley, right, how are you

1085
01:00:56,800 --> 01:00:58,320
Speaker 1: gonna if you don't have a corner, Like how are

1086
01:00:58,360 --> 01:01:01,800
Speaker 1: you gonna cover a J? Brown and Ceedee Lamb and

1087
01:01:01,880 --> 01:01:05,760
Speaker 1: Terry McLaurin. But I also think if you got eighteen games.

1088
01:01:05,800 --> 01:01:08,720
Speaker 1: That's six of them. I wonder if that's changed a

1089
01:01:08,720 --> 01:01:10,280
Speaker 1: little bit. We used to talk a lot about it

1090
01:01:10,320 --> 01:01:12,800
Speaker 1: when I was with the Eagles. I think good teams

1091
01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:15,720
Speaker 1: kind of find a balance. But I do think if

1092
01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:17,880
Speaker 1: you like, listen to a clip of Al Davis talk

1093
01:01:18,320 --> 01:01:22,480
Speaker 1: in like nineteen ninety two, it felt like that was

1094
01:01:22,520 --> 01:01:27,080
Speaker 1: a driving force in his draft philosophy for building the Raiders.

1095
01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:31,760
Speaker 1: I don't. I watch a lot of GM press conferences

1096
01:01:31,760 --> 01:01:36,800
Speaker 1: and clips. It doesn't feel as like prominent as it

1097
01:01:36,880 --> 01:01:42,640
Speaker 1: once did. I probably give terrible interview advice. I'm just

1098
01:01:42,640 --> 01:01:46,760
Speaker 1: the wrong guy to ask on that one, especially like

1099
01:01:46,800 --> 01:01:48,919
Speaker 1: if I were to interview someone doing this, it would

1100
01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:53,760
Speaker 1: be more like passion. But some jobs like yeah, we

1101
01:01:53,800 --> 01:01:55,960
Speaker 1: need a financial planner, Like you either know what you're

1102
01:01:56,000 --> 01:02:12,040
Speaker 1: doing or you don't. I wanted to get your thoughts

1103
01:02:12,080 --> 01:02:14,680
Speaker 1: on Travis Hunter playing both ways. I understand he's a

1104
01:02:14,680 --> 01:02:17,440
Speaker 1: freak athlete, but I'm just wondering, from a team standpoint,

1105
01:02:17,960 --> 01:02:21,080
Speaker 1: is it even possible with team meetings in practice? The

1106
01:02:21,160 --> 01:02:24,320
Speaker 1: kid would be running himself ragged trying to do both.

1107
01:02:25,080 --> 01:02:28,000
Speaker 1: I'm wrong. Maybe I'm wrong, but it doesn't seem like

1108
01:02:28,040 --> 01:02:30,520
Speaker 1: it would be the best for him and whoever drafts him.

1109
01:02:31,520 --> 01:02:35,080
Speaker 1: I thought John Harbaugh, who has been around football his

1110
01:02:35,280 --> 01:02:38,720
Speaker 1: entire life. His dad was a coach, his brother was

1111
01:02:38,760 --> 01:02:41,680
Speaker 1: a player. He started coaching immediately after he was done

1112
01:02:41,680 --> 01:02:45,480
Speaker 1: playing it, like Miami of Ohio. He's coached Hall of famers,

1113
01:02:45,840 --> 01:02:48,600
Speaker 1: He's been a Super Bowls, MVPs, He's seen it all,

1114
01:02:50,080 --> 01:02:53,320
Speaker 1: and he's like, there's just not enough time in the day.

1115
01:02:53,440 --> 01:02:55,960
Speaker 1: It is so hard to be good. I mean, think

1116
01:02:56,000 --> 01:02:58,520
Speaker 1: about the best athletes we talk about in any sport,

1117
01:02:59,400 --> 01:03:02,480
Speaker 1: how much tickets, how detailed they are, how much effort

1118
01:03:02,600 --> 01:03:06,000
Speaker 1: goes in to being great at what they do right,

1119
01:03:06,600 --> 01:03:09,560
Speaker 1: and football specifically, when so much of it is about

1120
01:03:09,640 --> 01:03:15,680
Speaker 1: mental preparation. In you said, team meetings will then unit meetings,

1121
01:03:15,800 --> 01:03:19,800
Speaker 1: which is if your dB the DBS side of the ball,

1122
01:03:19,840 --> 01:03:23,240
Speaker 1: like offensive defense, the way you practice in the unit

1123
01:03:23,360 --> 01:03:26,400
Speaker 1: you practice with anyone that's been to practice or played football,

1124
01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:29,280
Speaker 1: and like high school knows, O line's here, D line's here,

1125
01:03:29,520 --> 01:03:36,320
Speaker 1: DBS wide receivers, like everything is is separated by your group,

1126
01:03:36,800 --> 01:03:40,320
Speaker 1: and then your group who you would go against. You know, linebackers,

1127
01:03:40,400 --> 01:03:44,560
Speaker 1: running backs, O line, D line quarterbacks. You know, throw

1128
01:03:44,640 --> 01:03:47,440
Speaker 1: with the wide receivers and the DBS, the special teams.

1129
01:03:48,160 --> 01:03:51,760
Speaker 1: It's all segregated, so it'd be very difficult. I guess

1130
01:03:51,760 --> 01:03:53,320
Speaker 1: if you're a wide receiver in a dB, you take

1131
01:03:53,360 --> 01:03:55,480
Speaker 1: one repid dB, one repid wide receiver, but you'd be

1132
01:03:55,520 --> 01:03:58,120
Speaker 1: getting lacked by the other guy that was drafted in

1133
01:03:58,160 --> 01:04:01,320
Speaker 1: the fourth round who's only focus on wide receiver and

1134
01:04:01,440 --> 01:04:04,080
Speaker 1: two years in he's going to improve. I mean, how

1135
01:04:04,160 --> 01:04:05,880
Speaker 1: often do we see guys like the guy goes in

1136
01:04:05,920 --> 01:04:08,800
Speaker 1: the fourth round, all of a sudden he's Terry McLaurin.

1137
01:04:09,120 --> 01:04:12,600
Speaker 1: You know, happens all the time. So you know, the

1138
01:04:12,680 --> 01:04:17,400
Speaker 1: famous football saying is you're either getting better you're getting worse.

1139
01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:20,360
Speaker 1: No one stays the same. It's impossible to get better

1140
01:04:20,400 --> 01:04:21,760
Speaker 1: if you don't put all your chips in the middle

1141
01:04:21,760 --> 01:04:24,600
Speaker 1: of the table at that thing. So I think John

1142
01:04:24,640 --> 01:04:27,080
Speaker 1: Harbaughs said it perfectly, is like there's just not enough

1143
01:04:27,120 --> 01:04:30,520
Speaker 1: time to be great at both. One is gonna regress.

1144
01:04:31,520 --> 01:04:34,800
Speaker 1: So what I think is most realistic is you try

1145
01:04:34,840 --> 01:04:39,600
Speaker 1: to dominate at corner dB and then play some wide receiver.

1146
01:04:40,080 --> 01:04:43,280
Speaker 1: But I don't think that you could play because I

1147
01:04:43,320 --> 01:04:45,360
Speaker 1: think that it's been reported on that he was with

1148
01:04:45,480 --> 01:04:49,920
Speaker 1: the DBS in college, right that's where he spend most

1149
01:04:49,920 --> 01:04:51,400
Speaker 1: of his time, and then he would just play wide

1150
01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:53,440
Speaker 1: receiver because he knew the plays. I don't think you

1151
01:04:53,480 --> 01:04:56,560
Speaker 1: could do that in the NFL. I really don't. I

1152
01:04:56,600 --> 01:04:58,200
Speaker 1: think it's going to be very, very difficult. And I'm

1153
01:04:58,200 --> 01:05:00,800
Speaker 1: not trying to be negative, Nancy. I fucking loved watching

1154
01:05:00,880 --> 01:05:03,840
Speaker 1: him play. It was awesome. He's way tougher than he

1155
01:05:03,840 --> 01:05:07,240
Speaker 1: gets credit for as a tackler. He made one I

1156
01:05:07,240 --> 01:05:10,640
Speaker 1: forget who they were playing Baylor some game this year

1157
01:05:10,680 --> 01:05:12,920
Speaker 1: where he caused like basically the game winning fumble at

1158
01:05:12,920 --> 01:05:15,280
Speaker 1: the goal line. He's stunt. I think it was bailor

1159
01:05:15,280 --> 01:05:16,760
Speaker 1: because it was overtime, it was the game that should

1160
01:05:16,760 --> 01:05:20,000
Speaker 1: do or through the game, tying touchdown, rolling to his left,

1161
01:05:21,040 --> 01:05:25,040
Speaker 1: And I just don't think it's possible. I really don't

1162
01:05:25,440 --> 01:05:29,320
Speaker 1: he could do it, but to maximize his career and

1163
01:05:29,360 --> 01:05:32,360
Speaker 1: to become like ultimately, his goal when you draft him,

1164
01:05:32,640 --> 01:05:34,520
Speaker 1: if the Browns take him, if the Giants take him,

1165
01:05:34,520 --> 01:05:36,760
Speaker 1: he's going in the top two or three picks, is

1166
01:05:36,800 --> 01:05:39,720
Speaker 1: to become a superstar. And I think the only way

1167
01:05:39,760 --> 01:05:43,600
Speaker 1: you become a superstar is by fully focusing on the

1168
01:05:43,640 --> 01:05:46,720
Speaker 1: one thing you know. It's the only way to do it,

1169
01:05:47,080 --> 01:05:49,960
Speaker 1: Like justin Jefferson, only focus on getting open. It's his

1170
01:05:50,040 --> 01:05:56,360
Speaker 1: only thought. So my routes, my footwork, my technique, the coverages,

1171
01:05:56,920 --> 01:05:59,240
Speaker 1: and then you know, how do I catch the ball,

1172
01:06:00,120 --> 01:06:05,120
Speaker 1: my hands, the jugs than the mental appropriate preparation of

1173
01:06:05,160 --> 01:06:08,240
Speaker 1: getting my body ready to do all that, it's all

1174
01:06:08,280 --> 01:06:11,080
Speaker 1: focused on playing wide receiver. Same thing with defensive back.

1175
01:06:11,520 --> 01:06:13,600
Speaker 1: When you're a great defensive back, all you're focused on

1176
01:06:13,680 --> 01:06:15,400
Speaker 1: doing that. I don't think it's I just don't think

1177
01:06:15,400 --> 01:06:18,520
Speaker 1: it's possible. Not the highest level. If he had done

1178
01:06:18,560 --> 01:06:20,840
Speaker 1: in the SEC, I would give it a little more

1179
01:06:21,000 --> 01:06:23,919
Speaker 1: than the Big twelve. I'm sorry, it's just not as good.

1180
01:06:24,280 --> 01:06:30,720
Speaker 1: He's great, but the conference kind of sucks. The volume