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Speaker 2: Guy, I'm really enjoying watching you guys apologize to Father

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Speaker 2: You guys are really on good behavior coming back to

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Speaker 3: No, we have been growing up yet.

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Speaker 2: I don't know you haven't, but you know enough when

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Speaker 4: I'm proud of you only because Father Peter's here.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Father Peter here.

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Speaker 2: I've heard a couple. I'm sorry, Father Peters. I saw

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Speaker 3: I thought it was pretty proud that was a ten.

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Speaker 3: I thought that was a ten tonight.

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Speaker 4: Is a tenth coach that ring you out on your

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Speaker 4: fingers at twenty sixteen or twenty eighteen, You know.

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Speaker 2: I would not do that. You know, I would not

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Speaker 3: Time.

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Speaker 2: And everybody here doesn't know this, but guys, Matt played

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Speaker 3: Wow, him and his family, Him and his family. I

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Speaker 2: And if you think about why Josh came to going over,

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Speaker 1: I would have been You thought I was bad, then

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Speaker 4: Josh was disgusting. Man, Yeah, Josh, Actually, I take that back.

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Speaker 4: Up to remember Josh almost almost killed me in practice

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't say, eighty two games is a long season.

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Speaker 1: And I had to do. It's easy for Jaylen because

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Speaker 3: Oh thank god, I didn't coach you in the NBA.

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Speaker 1: Well, speaking of that, do you do you miss coaching?

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Speaker 2: I don't. I don't miss coaching. I missed this. I

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Speaker 2: I got to compete with Jalen this summer. We played golf.

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Speaker 3: Our butts kicked. That was trash, not gonna lie.

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Speaker 4: I was traushn't haven't lost Josh's you know, Josh's better

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Speaker 3: We didn't go and play in Vegas. Oh yeah, we

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Speaker 1: I had a hurt hand.

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Speaker 3: I beat you, straight up.

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Speaker 4: So I beat you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, So you're going to be proud about that

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Speaker 4: For those of you guys who have not listened to

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Speaker 3: This is what it was well coach for.

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Speaker 2: That was sixteen when we had lost two years in

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Speaker 3: We for sure thought about that.

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Speaker 4: I like how, I like how you preached to us

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Speaker 4: Like we practices every day. We had the same stoic face.

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Speaker 3: No, no, no, you guys played.

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Speaker 2: I'm glad you said that, because that's exactly how I

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Speaker 1: I was worried about that game because I don't know

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Speaker 4: Yep, let's let's go further than the tournament. So national championship.

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Speaker 4: Remember when clearly remember when Marcus pages that double clutch shot.

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Speaker 4: Can you do you remember what you said in that

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Speaker 4: time out? No?

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Speaker 3: I but do you know.

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Speaker 2: I don't think I've told I've gotten the opportunity to

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Speaker 3: Josh is gonna kill me for.

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Speaker 2: This, but I've got the chance to talk to corporations

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Speaker 2: about that moment because everybody asked me, I remember when

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Speaker 2: I came into the locker room. You guys were like,

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Speaker 2: what what are you talking about? They're like, you said bang.

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Speaker 2: You didn't even get it. I didn't even know that.

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Speaker 3: I said that.

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Speaker 2: You guys told me in the locker room, And what

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Speaker 2: Page hit that shot, we had blown a ten point

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Speaker 2: The only thing you can't do there is give up

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Speaker 2: and the guys were coming off the bench and they

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Speaker 2: You can't control what happened in the past. The only

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Speaker 2: was just so proud that you guys were all doing that.

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Speaker 2: And that's really what I was thinking in that whole.

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Speaker 2: I was like, you guys are good for life. We

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Speaker 3: That's why I.

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Speaker 2: Didn't react when we when we won the game, I

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Speaker 2: was like, that's just God's will, man, that that shot

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Speaker 5: I was so impressed. I don't think I said much,

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Speaker 5: I don't expect that from you. He didn't listen in

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Speaker 4: Before before we move on, you remember when Josh I

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Speaker 4: love doing this. Remember when Josh flex at the camera

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Speaker 4: against Temple. So coach what the Bok put on the spot?

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Speaker 4: But Coach liked to, uh, basically let you know if

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Speaker 4: We don't care about each other. We just care about ourselves.

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Speaker 3: Remember that. I definitely remember that I'm not going.

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Speaker 2: He would always his mom's here, Pats here, and his

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Speaker 2: tell a great job story that I never told. The

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Speaker 3: He should have.

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Speaker 2: He was good enough to go to the NBA after sixteen,

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Speaker 2: so he was make sure I get the years right.

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Speaker 2: He was going to workouts for NBA teams after sixteen, right,

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Speaker 2: that was your junior year, right. And I know for

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Speaker 2: a fact that the Atlanta Hawks wanted.

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Speaker 3: To draft him. But it was at the end of

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Speaker 2: Was NBA teams were saying, like, he looks sluggish. You know,

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Speaker 2: I don't know, So I tell him, Josh, the Hawks

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Speaker 3: They're gonna draft you. So he goes down, he does

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Speaker 2: The general manager calls Meraft. He's like Jay, he just

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Speaker 2: I say to Josh, Josh, what were you doing? He goes,

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Speaker 2: I played all the way through the NA tournament. We

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Speaker 2: from me?

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Speaker 3: So we wound up getting him for another year.

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Speaker 2: He came back to Villanovah for another year because it

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Speaker 3: I was so mad at him. I was so mad

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Speaker 1: No, I remember it because they had forty We played

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