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Speaker 1: in Cleveland are wondering if your Door Sanders now deserve

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Speaker 2: Well.

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Speaker 1: Today, Kevin Stefanski was asked by Mary Kay Cabot whether

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Speaker 1: he's considering the possibility of playing your door. His response,

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Speaker 1: the focus is where we are right now, Mary Kay,

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Speaker 1: that's not my focus. Can we stop asking the questions?

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Speaker 1: Y'all know this man don't want to play your door.

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Speaker 3: You know, you know people we know that, and people

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Speaker 3: the people you know in the chat, not not in

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Speaker 3: the chat, but this is in general when we talk

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Speaker 3: about cleating the brown Oh, it's.

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Speaker 4: It's damn.

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Speaker 3: What's the word when they don't like someone and they

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Speaker 3: how they're doing the wrong? I forgot the word to use.

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Speaker 3: But listen, we already know who the play was. We

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Speaker 3: already know where the play was. They didn't want him.

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Speaker 4: It was Drew Berry.

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Speaker 3: No, and Andrew Berry, Andrew with Andrew Berry's pick. It

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Speaker 3: wasn't it wasn't the owner, it wasn't the fan ski.

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Speaker 3: So this is exactly what they want. This is exactly

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Speaker 3: someone forced their hand to take this pick and they

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Speaker 3: don't want to give him opportunity to play the game.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 4: From the small sample size.

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Speaker 3: That we've seen from Dylan Gabriel, he has now had

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Speaker 3: these played four games that they're won, and three he

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Speaker 3: won't push.

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Speaker 2: The ball down the field. It's hard. I can't run

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Speaker 1: You do is that you shore, you fish from you

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Speaker 1: short fish, I catch the big fish. The big fish

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Speaker 1: don't swim close along the shore. They're out the deep.

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Speaker 1: And so to get points you got to push the

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but maybe he's maybe he's not.

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Speaker 3: He's not that comfortable doing just that yet, because we

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Speaker 3: and the god damn preseason, we saw him push the

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Speaker 3: ball down the field. I see him. I saw him

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Speaker 3: throw short balls. I thought I saw him throw eating

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Speaker 3: needed I saw him throw dig rocks. I didn't really

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Speaker 3: see him throwing throw anything deep. But I think there's

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Speaker 3: a certain level of uncomfortability that they don't have because offensively,

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Speaker 3: they're not called him plays for him to push the

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Speaker 3: he's good at. That's the only thing I think of.

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Speaker 3: But if it was good at doing it, you would

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Speaker 3: call the plays that call for him to do just that.

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Speaker 3: What we're asking of, you know, to for to win games.

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Speaker 3: He's not giving the Browns their best chance to win games.

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Speaker 3: And the fact that Kevin Stefanski understands that my job

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Speaker 3: is on the line because this is the guy I

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Speaker 3: stood up on the table for and who I wanted

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Speaker 3: to make you know, the start of our team.

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Speaker 4: At some point, you're gonna lose the locker room too,

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Speaker 3: And you're gonna lose the locker room and just take

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Speaker 3: the right person to say something A Denzel Ward, A

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Speaker 3: Miles Garrett. You know, you know your captains, you'd be

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Speaker 3: like theyten, we need to do something.

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Speaker 4: I mean to see.

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Speaker 3: Miles Gart frustrated like that, the way he was understanding

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Speaker 3: that offensively we're not getting it done, knowing that needs

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Speaker 5: I mean, the job ain't a jeopardy. He's not in

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Speaker 4: Seat in the hot seat. So you know what thing

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Speaker 4: so hell no, absolutely not.

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Speaker 1: Joe Flacco training camp completion percentage was fifty eight point

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Speaker 1: at sixty nine percent. Then he went to fifty six percent,

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Speaker 3: He's somebody in the chat funny as here, but Abe

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Speaker 3: did throw it down the field, but the guy in accepted.

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Speaker 1: Look, man, look, I'm just tired of like, man, push

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Speaker 2: Man it.

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Speaker 5: They don't seem as interested in.

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Speaker 1: Putting your door in as we're interested in seeing him.

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Speaker 1: And who knows what would happen if he got in there,

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Speaker 1: And my thing is he're like, well he didn't play.

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Speaker 1: He wasn't even the number two. Bailey Zaffery was the

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Speaker 1: a backendury. Well how you heard it? Well, he just

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Speaker 3: Hi, Hi, he have a back surgery. But he was

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Speaker 3: Look even though it ain't nothing wrong, ain't nothing wrong

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Speaker 3: with him, the same way the ain't nothing wrong with J. J.

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Speaker 4: McCarthy. There's nothing wrong with him.

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Speaker 5: It's just the game that they do play.

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Speaker 3: If you understand the game and understand what they will

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Speaker 3: with you to cover there, you know what, get us

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Speaker 3: on the outside to shut up. But listen, I played

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Speaker 3: the game. I understand that similar things that you will

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Speaker 3: the decisions that you've made. Of course, you're not gonna

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Speaker 5: Door Sanders works and operates.

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Speaker 3: and obviously also because it's that's that's they did.

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Speaker 4: They didn't want them, but he.

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Speaker 4: So what do we do.

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Speaker 5: We say, he's hurt, his back is messed up.

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Speaker 3: You tell you tell the reporter chemist defense. He says, hey,

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Speaker 3: don't ask me the focus. The focus is what it

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Speaker 3: is right now is Dylan Gabriel and doing everything we

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Speaker 4: Improves week to week.

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Speaker 3: But the ticket, because the next thing that's gonna happen,

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Speaker 4: It's going to be the own players in your locker room.

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Speaker 2: Dylan Gabriel.

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Speaker 1: Uh is training camp completion percentage was fifty five percent

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Speaker 1: looks like he's right about where he was in training camp.

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Speaker 1: That's not what they have. So when you don't have

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Speaker 4: Listen, you know what?

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Speaker 3: Then the owners and the onus at that point is

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Speaker 4: Calling the plays.

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Speaker 3: Okay, well, listen, I understand to have a quarterback right

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Speaker 3: here in Dylan Gabriel. There's certain weaknesses that he does have.

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Speaker 3: I have n't Juku Tillman, Jerry Judy. I know what

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Speaker 4: What's wrong with me?

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Speaker 3: I'm talking to damn fast creatively to hide some of

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Speaker 2: So now, you can't make your taller, so you can't.

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Speaker 1: You can't make him grow four inches, so you can't

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Speaker 5: You can't have a stronger arm, You can't do anything

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Speaker 1: No, your offensive line is not the best if there's

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Speaker 1: not anything you can do about that because you have

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Speaker 2: So I don't.

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Speaker 1: Really know where you I don't know how much better

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I listen, I don't know. I'm all, I'm all

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Speaker 3: a lot of suggestions. I mean, everyone else is suggested.

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Speaker 4: You know, do this, do that? What everybody wanted, they got.

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Speaker 3: You got what you wanted, You got your quarterback, you

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Speaker 3: got Joe Flacco gone now having success, you know, in

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Speaker 3: the air throwing to the greatest, the greatest duo in

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Speaker 3: the NFL. Now, Dylan gave us your quarterback. But you're

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Speaker 3: still in the same You're still in the same place.

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Speaker 3: You're still in the same position.

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Speaker 1: You think you think your dual better than Dallas a duo,

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Speaker 1: Ask you do you believe that your duo is better

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Speaker 4: Is very good. You know, George Picking can do what T.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you're doing a little better.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean yeah, I mean yeah, I think so

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Speaker 1: And the thing I like about Pick is Pick is angry.

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Speaker 1: He get his ball, hands on the ball. He's like,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that, And I love I love the

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Speaker 1: focus that I've seen from him since he's arrived in Dallas.

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Speaker 2: I love that, I love I love that simple.

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Speaker 5: I just.

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Speaker 1: Uh she door has been liking I G posts today

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Speaker 1: that are calling for him to start for the Browns

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Speaker 3: We'll see whatever you got to do, whatever whatever you

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Speaker 3: but we're gonna see what happens. We're gonna Getdynan Gabriel

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Speaker 4: I wonder who they got coming out to buy.

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Speaker 1: Uh, that's as you coming out of the bye oh man.

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Speaker 4: Ain't no telling.

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Speaker 2: I think that's as good.

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Speaker 1: That's as good as any time to let you do

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I think Dylan Gabriel will be the start

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Speaker 2: You know what.

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Speaker 5: They already beat all so they got confidence.

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Speaker 2: Now, don't do that.

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Speaker 4: Don't do that. Let's not bring up the past. Let's

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Speaker 3: Let's look forward, because in the Bible it said, uh,

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Speaker 2: I don't know your eyes closed the way to beat

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Speaker 1: You know, Look, there's only so much because I think

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Speaker 1: He said all the right things, and I'm gonna support Dylan.

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Speaker 1: You know, Hey, you know we're in that room. I

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Speaker 2: I think he's been coached up.

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Speaker 4: You know, he believed that every player.

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Speaker 1: Of Yeah, you know, and unfortunately y'all won't, he said,

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Speaker 2: I mean, look, there's only one way. There's only one

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Speaker 1: Give him go, let him go out there and give

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Speaker 1: I think they're gonna let this thing with Dylan Gaber

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Speaker 1: Joe Flakol got four stars. Are we really trying to

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Speaker 1: It don't work out. What you do, go back to

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Speaker 1: go back And I don't know if that's where you want.

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Speaker 2: To be at Ojo. I don't. I don't think that's

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Speaker 4: The fancy is in a tough position now, he is

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Speaker 2: The damn if you do, damn if you don't.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, basically that's exactly what it is.

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Speaker 3: But I think it's okay for them to have a

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Speaker 1: They're probably going to go back into They're probably gonna

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Speaker 3: I'm glad you just said that because obviously everything at

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Speaker 5: Like, oh shoot, we found the one.

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Speaker 1: There's nobody Cleveland's more than a player away with you.

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Speaker 4: They're more than the player away.

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Speaker 3: But if they get the right quarterback, which is yes,

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Speaker 6: But you can't even pass. You can't even get past

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Speaker 6: Baker and let him heal. Yeah, but you know the

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Speaker 6: You know, he felt like they wanted him to be

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Speaker 1: He cool with the locker room, the guys like him,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, as all that matters at the end of the day,

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Speaker 4: It's based on wins, wins and losses.

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Speaker 1: there's nothing to report. I don't know how much they're gonna. Oh,

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Speaker 1: They gone, what you mean gone they practicing?

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Speaker 2: They ain't practicing. You gotta get the week off.

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Speaker 4: Wait they change the rules or something.

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Speaker 1: You get the whole week off.

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Speaker 4: Man, I ain't never see.

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Speaker 1: Man what no, hell no, we got we got Thursday week. Man,

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Speaker 1: I was like, damn, man, they man such a someth man.

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Speaker 3: They get the whole week off. Yeah that's crazy. So

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you want.

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Speaker 3: To reseentmentally, you want to really get yourself away from

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Speaker 4: Go home, you know, get in your game.

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Speaker 1: To All I know is I heal my a lot

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Speaker 1: Oh you good, yep. They sells at the convenience store.

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Speaker 1: you got that rabbit turred ice. I got to get

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Speaker 1: that QB dice. It's all all the same.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it all at the end of the day.

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Speaker 1: Like your quarterback cars and went and set that undergo

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Speaker 1: and we'll be placed on injured reserve. JJ McCarthy began

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Speaker 5: He's expected to play Sunday in Detroit.

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Speaker 1: The only backup Minnesota roster is undrafted rookie Max Brosmer.

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Speaker 1: of the Vikings missing Sam Donald?

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Speaker 4: Listen?

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Speaker 5: They missing Sam Donald very very much, so very much.

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Speaker 4: So Listen the way.

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Speaker 3: Sam Donald played last year, I still, for the life me,

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Speaker 4: I get that.

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Speaker 3: But listen, there's no problem with him sitting behind and

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Speaker 4: With the way he played last year.

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Speaker 3: You don't let the quarterback, as hard as it is

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Speaker 4: He did everything well.

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Speaker 3: He didn't look like the Sam Donald with the Jets,

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Speaker 4: He looked very good, similar to.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, a completely different person.

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Speaker 3: And the same person is still carried on right now

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Speaker 2: He's still yes.

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Speaker 5: And now you're struggling. Now you're having quarterback bulls.

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Speaker 3: He didn't know what to do, and I think they're

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Speaker 1: Normally the guys get guys were getting back in three

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Speaker 3: Know, goodwill. Ain't nothing wrong with the ankle. They ain't

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Speaker 3: A just to Jefferson, boy, he gonna cut up this week,

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Speaker 3: you hear me, Well, let let things don't go right,

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Speaker 4: You know, they love they love calling.

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Speaker 3: Players divas and all this that are passionate and want

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Speaker 5: Hey, them great players that we all love.

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Speaker 4: They start to act up now you let you laughing,

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Speaker 4: but they love they.

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Speaker 3: Hey, they love the I'm not sure where that where

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Speaker 4: I'm not sure you know, but you know when.

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Speaker 5: Certain when came from y'all misbehavior?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Hey, we don't misbehave. We're just passionate about the

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Speaker 5: You know, we do it.

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Speaker 4: It's called divas. When they do it, it's called.

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Speaker 5: Huh called passion, it's called.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know if you word the definition

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Speaker 4: I'm not gonna go there.

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Speaker 1: It's been reported that went tore his laborer and dislocated

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Speaker 2: Let that sink in.

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Speaker 1: He's turned into a journman. Yes, he was the number

445
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Speaker 1: two pick in the draft, and yeah he had a

446
00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:49,040
Speaker 1: nice three year run and feeling them at all fell

447
00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:53,040
Speaker 1: apart and he's bounced around every since. But so now

448
00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:56,160
Speaker 1: he's a journeyman quarterback. You willing to keep a journeman.

449
00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:58,840
Speaker 1: You're willing to ask a journeyman with a torn laborerm

450
00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:01,040
Speaker 1: and a different what's being I don't know, I'm just

451
00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:03,960
Speaker 1: reading what's being reported. You're asking a guy that's a

452
00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:07,680
Speaker 1: journeyman quarterback that has a torn labor and a dislocated

453
00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:10,240
Speaker 1: non throwing shoulder to go out.

454
00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:11,120
Speaker 2: There and gut it up.

455
00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:14,400
Speaker 1: Instead of putting a guy there that was a high

456
00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:17,600
Speaker 1: draft pick that you believed so much in, a guy

457
00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:20,080
Speaker 1: that you saw go through the totality of a season

458
00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:23,280
Speaker 1: and play exceptionally well, you let him walk out the door.

459
00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:30,520
Speaker 3: Hey, I know what Sam Donald looks like before he

460
00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:32,840
Speaker 3: left might have left a bad taste in a lot

461
00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:36,040
Speaker 3: of people's mouths. But the position he puts you in

462
00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:39,439
Speaker 3: in the regular season to even be in contention to

463
00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:41,400
Speaker 3: be in the playoffs, it was phenomenal.

464
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Speaker 4: It was a great run.

465
00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:44,680
Speaker 3: And it was a kind of run where you bring

466
00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:46,960
Speaker 3: someone like that back who gives you a chance. He

467
00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:50,360
Speaker 3: puts you in position he allows you to maximize what

468
00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:54,159
Speaker 3: you want to do offensively with his decision making and

469
00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:58,360
Speaker 3: chemistry that he built with Hodginson, Addison and Justin Jefferson.

470
00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:01,320
Speaker 3: You know, walk out to throw it because now you

471
00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:03,879
Speaker 3: have a situation like you do now where we're saying,

472
00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:07,000
Speaker 3: God damn. JJ McCarthy has been injured on the sideline

473
00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:08,760
Speaker 3: with a high angle spring for six weeks.

474
00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:10,159
Speaker 4: I know that's about I know.

475
00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:13,480
Speaker 3: The devil is a lot somebody lying. I don't know

476
00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:16,320
Speaker 3: who it is because now I'm not sure. Now you

477
00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:18,840
Speaker 3: really don't want to put him out there based on

478
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Speaker 3: what you saw already when he was when he had

479
00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:22,639
Speaker 3: the opportunity to get out there, it didn't look like

480
00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:24,480
Speaker 3: it should It doesn't look like you guys made the

481
00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:25,160
Speaker 3: right choice.

482
00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:28,119
Speaker 4: So now you're lying on. Carson Wentz to say the day.

483
00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:32,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, look and he look, O Joe, he's on in

484
00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:34,600
Speaker 1: this second year, so he could get better. But I

485
00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:37,840
Speaker 1: had my questions about him because they ran the ball

486
00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:40,439
Speaker 1: way more at Michigan than they threw it. So I

487
00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:43,760
Speaker 1: was always like, Okay, what happened when they're gonna require

488
00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:46,399
Speaker 1: you to throw the ball the days of you just

489
00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:48,640
Speaker 1: being able to run the football, you got to throw

490
00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:50,359
Speaker 1: it in this league. I don't care who you are,

491
00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:52,080
Speaker 1: They're gonna come a time that you're gonna have to

492
00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:54,080
Speaker 1: make and more time than not, you're gonna need to

493
00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:56,840
Speaker 1: throw the football. And so I was always a little

494
00:21:56,920 --> 00:22:00,440
Speaker 1: leary on that part. Now I will say this, Look,

495
00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:03,080
Speaker 1: I thought they could have kept Sam Donald, but I

496
00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:05,680
Speaker 1: knew they wouldn't keep Sam Donald for the simple fact

497
00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:09,400
Speaker 1: of the money. And they tied up into JJ McCarthy.

498
00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:11,200
Speaker 1: He was the number ten pick in the draft.

499
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Speaker 2: O joe. But it wasn't a lot of money.

500
00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:18,399
Speaker 1: Now, if Minnesota had back to Brins truck up and

501
00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:20,680
Speaker 1: said okay, we got forty we got forty forty five

502
00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:24,240
Speaker 1: fifty million, I get Minnesota. But this is a very

503
00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:27,560
Speaker 1: digestible contract. This was almost like a Baker Mayfield contract.

504
00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:33,080
Speaker 1: Thirty million is the lower level of a starting quarterback.

505
00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:33,760
Speaker 4: Yep.

506
00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:36,639
Speaker 1: And so I was a little surprised that they didn't

507
00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:38,840
Speaker 1: that they didn't go to thirty, that they didn't look

508
00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:42,000
Speaker 1: at least for another year or two. Hell if, and

509
00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:44,520
Speaker 1: I get it, this is not a very fair assessment,

510
00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:47,679
Speaker 1: But your love rode the bench. Now he's backing up

511
00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:51,720
Speaker 1: somebody much more substantial, improving. But he sought his ass

512
00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:55,240
Speaker 1: on the bench. Aaron Rodgers sought the bench, so there's

513
00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:59,399
Speaker 1: no harm in that. And look, if Sam Donald doesn't

514
00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:02,680
Speaker 1: make it this year, but Sam Donald is not old.

515
00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:06,159
Speaker 1: Sam dollars twenty six, so if he continued to play, well,

516
00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:08,080
Speaker 1: hell I move on from JJ McCarthy.

517
00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:09,440
Speaker 5: I passed.

518
00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:12,679
Speaker 1: I ship his hands out because JJ McCarthy's what how

519
00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:16,760
Speaker 1: much younger is JJ McCarthy than Sam Donald?

520
00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:17,760
Speaker 2: Ash?

521
00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:21,360
Speaker 1: Because I think Sam Dollard's twenty six years of age,

522
00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:26,760
Speaker 1: so it's not like he's thirty thirty two. And plus

523
00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:29,399
Speaker 1: you're dealing with a quarterback, so they you know, they

524
00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:32,800
Speaker 1: like dog years. That twenty that twenty six is really

525
00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:36,760
Speaker 1: like fourteen. Oh yeah, so it's not like other positions.

526
00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:48,040
Speaker 1: How old is JJ McCarthy and how old is Sam Donald? Okay,

527
00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:50,880
Speaker 1: Sam dollars twenty eight J J. McCarthy's twenty two only

528
00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:52,440
Speaker 1: twenty two twenty two.

529
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Speaker 3: Yeah, man, listen, I'm not I'm not a GM, I'm

530
00:23:57,520 --> 00:23:59,160
Speaker 3: not an owner, but I understand.

531
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Speaker 5: I know it gets our best chance to win, and

532
00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:02,639
Speaker 5: I'm not gambling.

533
00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:05,119
Speaker 3: Regards to him being the number ten pick, There's no

534
00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:06,920
Speaker 3: problem with him saying he has he has a team

535
00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:10,320
Speaker 3: friendly contract, even being the number six. I'm bringing Donald

536
00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:13,440
Speaker 3: back and giving him that lower tier, no disrespect. I'm

537
00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:18,199
Speaker 3: speaking in football terms, of course, in quarterback money, to

538
00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:19,679
Speaker 3: see what he can do for us the next two

539
00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:20,800
Speaker 3: or three years.

540
00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:24,480
Speaker 1: Leave the next two before I have to, because I

541
00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:27,000
Speaker 1: really don't have to make a decision on saying on

542
00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:30,640
Speaker 1: JJ McCarthy, oh Joe, until you're year four, going into

543
00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:33,520
Speaker 1: year five. I got to make a decision so I

544
00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:36,200
Speaker 1: don't have to do a deal with him. I mean, obviously,

545
00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:39,680
Speaker 1: guys that are playing get deals done after their third

546
00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:42,679
Speaker 1: year if they're that guy. So I get that. But

547
00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:45,480
Speaker 1: theoretically I can go in there. I could go into

548
00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:48,840
Speaker 1: year four says Okay, I've gotten two years of Sam Donald.

549
00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:51,560
Speaker 1: I think we've maxed them out. Okay, JJ, I'm gonna

550
00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:53,120
Speaker 1: give you a year to prove it.

551
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:54,000
Speaker 2: And then.

552
00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:58,479
Speaker 1: With hey, but I'm not in decision. But I think

553
00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:01,479
Speaker 1: the thing is Ojo going to that year four. Now

554
00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:04,880
Speaker 1: I got to pick up his fiftier option. And one

555
00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:07,000
Speaker 1: thing about it too, You know what I don't like.

556
00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:09,720
Speaker 3: You know, I think it's the perfect situation for him.

557
00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:12,199
Speaker 3: You played in Michigan, so you used to being in

558
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:14,440
Speaker 3: that type of environment. Obviously, you come from a school

559
00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:16,600
Speaker 3: where you ran the ball, you know, a high percentage

560
00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:17,080
Speaker 3: of the time.

561
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:19,840
Speaker 4: But your quarterback, your quarterback.

562
00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:22,720
Speaker 3: You're in the NFL now, and if you can throw

563
00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:26,480
Speaker 3: the ball to Geordanadison, Hockinson and Justin Jefferson, you don't belong.

564
00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:32,040
Speaker 4: You just don't. Oh there is what you just don't belong.

565
00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:35,000
Speaker 5: Because that's one of the better receiving cores in the NFL.

566
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:39,280
Speaker 3: And even if even if you can't bring yourself to

567
00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:42,359
Speaker 3: their level of play, they're so good they can hide

568
00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:44,280
Speaker 3: whatever weaknesses you do have as a quarterback.

569
00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:45,600
Speaker 4: And the fact that he can play.

570
00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:47,560
Speaker 3: Going at the week six and we talk about it's

571
00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:50,280
Speaker 3: still like ankle spray. Something may write and it damn

572
00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:54,400
Speaker 3: sure hangle spring that's not it. I mean we know that,

573
00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:56,520
Speaker 3: and I'm not sure what they're trying to hide. But

574
00:25:56,600 --> 00:26:00,159
Speaker 3: whatever weaknesses that he may have as a quarterback, they

575
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:01,359
Speaker 3: have to find a way to hide it because you

576
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:03,760
Speaker 3: had the players around them that can hide it.

577
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:06,119
Speaker 4: You have to play it around them can hide it.

578
00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:07,440
Speaker 2: Well.

579
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:09,200
Speaker 1: I think the thing is, oh Joe, you can only

580
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:10,920
Speaker 1: hide it for so long. It's like in easter egg

581
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:13,560
Speaker 1: they might not find it, but somebody's gonna find them eggs.

582
00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:16,520
Speaker 1: So whatever your weakness is as a quarterback, o shoe,

583
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:18,560
Speaker 1: we're gonna find it sooner or later, because as long

584
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:20,920
Speaker 1: as you continue to play, we're gonna find out where

585
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:25,520
Speaker 1: you're weak at. That's just that's just that's just that's

586
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:28,840
Speaker 1: just how it is. And so uh, I agree with you.

587
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:38,280
Speaker 1: I just knew based on the NFL the number ten

588
00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:46,040
Speaker 1: pick they really like this guy that But and also

589
00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:48,199
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's true. It's like reports that

590
00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:51,000
Speaker 1: he wanted to be guaranteed as his starting job. Seattle

591
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:52,400
Speaker 1: guaranteed him a starting job.

592
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:56,440
Speaker 4: Okay, you talked about Donald okay okay oko.

593
00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:00,400
Speaker 5: And so under that's those circumstance answers.

594
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:03,160
Speaker 1: But it's hard for me to believe Ojoe, somebody gonna

595
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:05,200
Speaker 1: pay you thirty million dollars and you don't start.

596
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, and there are there aren't very many places that

597
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:14,160
Speaker 3: he could have gone to after he left Minnesota where

598
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:15,320
Speaker 3: they weren't going to guarantee me.

599
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:18,520
Speaker 5: They guarantee him the starting job. It wasn't anybody there.

600
00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:21,480
Speaker 3: You're gonna have to look over your shoulder and understand, Okay,

601
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:23,680
Speaker 3: their pressures on me. If I don't play well, they're

602
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,040
Speaker 3: probably gonna put this guy in you. You're in a

603
00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:28,480
Speaker 3: great You're in a great spot. I think Minnesota will

604
00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:30,200
Speaker 3: have been a great spot for him to come back.

605
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:32,840
Speaker 3: I'm not sure what mentioned was there's a reason why

606
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:35,440
Speaker 3: there's a reason why I'm not an owner because that's,

607
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:37,919
Speaker 3: you know, the choice of the decision I would have made.

608
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 3: And now he's in Seattle and he's flourishing. He is

609
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:45,359
Speaker 3: flourishingsn are having a fing ball.

610
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, they and I think O Joe. When they moved

611
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:54,160
Speaker 1: on from they moved on from Gino. Now you look

612
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:57,160
Speaker 1: at the situation. They moved on from DK, they moved

613
00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:59,640
Speaker 1: on from Lockett. It seems like lock it with the Tennessee.

614
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,120
Speaker 1: Now he's going to be reunited with Pete Carroll and

615
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 1: Gino and in Las Vegas. Uh, maybe a lot of

616
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 1: people like, man, what do they have? They got Jackson

617
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:14,359
Speaker 1: Smith and Jigbuck, they got js in and he is phenomenal.

618
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 3: And listen what we what we can do as well?

619
00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:21,680
Speaker 3: Because he's not too far removed from winning the Triple Crown.

620
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 3: I love Cooper Cup. He might not be the Cooper

621
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,720
Speaker 3: Cup old yeah, Cooper Cup.

622
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:28,399
Speaker 5: At they can still make plays.

623
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 4: You can still make plays.

624
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:31,880
Speaker 3: He can still he's still one of the butter butter

625
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:35,119
Speaker 3: route runners, one of the better creatives there, like to

626
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 3: say artistry when it comes to running routes. Yes, still,

627
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:40,560
Speaker 3: he's still one of those despite what people may think.

628
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:43,800
Speaker 1: He's just not He's not going to be used like that.

629
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:47,440
Speaker 1: That's not Sean mcvay's system. Sean McVay. If you look

630
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 1: at the way Sean McVay used Cooper Cup, you look

631
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 1: at the way Sean McVay look used.

632
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 2: Poopa Nakua, Well, yeah, that's not what he is.

633
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:56,160
Speaker 1: They're not going to use him like that because first

634
00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 1: he's not the number one, that's JSN.

635
00:28:58,400 --> 00:28:58,760
Speaker 2: Yes.

636
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:01,240
Speaker 1: So now the Jay saying he's going to get the

637
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 1: favorable he's going to get the favorable play calls. He's

638
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 1: going to get me the first target and so but

639
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 1: if you go back and look at it, o Jo,

640
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:11,120
Speaker 1: I think Cooper Cup only had one one thousand yard

641
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 1: receiving season. That was the triple Crown season season.

642
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 3: That's that's funny how that works, right, that's funny. And

643
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:20,360
Speaker 3: I saw that before with understandable. Damn you won the

644
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 3: Triple Crown. And I remember going back and looking at

645
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 3: some of his numbers. Me and TJ who's from Zadaw,

646
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 3: were talking about at one point and he told me,

647
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:28,880
Speaker 3: we'll go look at all the stats from before that,

648
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:32,560
Speaker 3: and it's unbelievable. With the right system, with the right coach,

649
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 3: and putting you in the right positions, in right position

650
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:37,720
Speaker 3: to make certain plays, they.

651
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:40,120
Speaker 4: Can munipulate the offense to where you can succeed no

652
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 4: matter what. Yeah, no matter what, you can do it.

653
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:46,280
Speaker 3: And obviously when it was time to work and wiggle

654
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:48,800
Speaker 3: him out that system, here comes Pooping the coolup.

655
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's draft players, new draft players. You need smart players.

656
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 1: Those guys on the bigger side, they're not your typical slot.

657
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:57,520
Speaker 1: You look at Pooper, you look at Cooper Cup, They're

658
00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:00,240
Speaker 1: not these they're not the Julian Edelman, They're not be

659
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 1: a Wes Welkers, They're not the typical slot receivers. They're

660
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:06,920
Speaker 1: on the business on the bigger size, which means they're

661
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 1: gonna have to be able to take more punishment because

662
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 1: when you catch that many balls on Joe, you gotta

663
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 1: get a damn ass load of targets. Because Cooper Cup

664
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 1: caught one hundred and forty something balls, that means he's

665
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:22,400
Speaker 1: one ninety two hundred targets, nineteen hundred and what nineteen

666
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:26,520
Speaker 1: hundred and thirty yard receiving yards. He was well over

667
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:29,320
Speaker 1: two thousand. He was probably down. He was down near

668
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:32,040
Speaker 1: two hundred catches on the season. When you tally up

669
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 1: what he did in the postseason and you look at

670
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:36,479
Speaker 1: the yard and he was well, he was like I

671
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:39,320
Speaker 1: think he was like twenty three twenty four hundred receiving yards.

672
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:40,600
Speaker 4: He is chice.

673
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:43,560
Speaker 5: And you look at what he did in the playoff games.

674
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:48,560
Speaker 1: So he probably had another thirty another thirty plus catches,

675
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,720
Speaker 1: So you figure attack on another thirty thirty five catches

676
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:56,720
Speaker 1: with another forty five fifty targets. Now you see hell,

677
00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:58,560
Speaker 1: he might have had two hundred and thirty two hundred

678
00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 1: and fifty targets, call one hundred and ninety of them.

679
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 3: When I think about it like that, as dynamic, as

680
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 3: dynamic of a playmaker as he was, I would always

681
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:11,560
Speaker 3: always sit back and hypothetically think, damn, I wonder what

682
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 3: my numbers would look like in that situation.

683
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:18,120
Speaker 4: Being that, you know, but we're a lot of punishment.

684
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 2: That's a lot of punishment.

685
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 4: Hey, I could take punishment, you know.

686
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:24,560
Speaker 3: I ain't got no problem going across that middle and

687
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 3: doing some of it, doing some of the things that

688
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 3: really made me uncomfortable. I can sit there and tell

689
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 3: you that. I mean I wasn't comfortable, you know, sitting

690
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:31,960
Speaker 3: there running running screens.

691
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 4: I don't like that. I like to be having a

692
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 4: somewhat of.

693
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:37,360
Speaker 1: Now, you're not gonna catch that many balls getting pushed

694
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:40,200
Speaker 1: down the field. O yoe, they can't throw that the

695
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 1: ball pushing you out.

696
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 2: Of No, not no.

697
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:44,719
Speaker 1: One hundred and you know he caught one hundred and

698
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 1: forty something balls. So think about how many, how many

699
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:50,560
Speaker 1: how many screens bubble screens that he actually caught. I

700
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:53,600
Speaker 1: don't like how many, how many, how many little smoke routes? Yeah,

701
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:54,240
Speaker 1: I don't like those.

702
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 7: I'm gonna be honest with you that it gives me

703
00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 7: a certain level of uncertainty, a certain love of uncomfortability

704
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 7: with me not being able to have my eyes on

705
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 7: what's in front of me and me having the focus

706
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 7: on the ball now having.

707
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 3: A runner route and understanding being able to read defenses

708
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 3: and knowing where everybody's going to be and with their job,

709
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 3: and knowing when I can get out.

710
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:16,960
Speaker 5: Of breaks, I can protect myself.

711
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 3: I know what's coming, I know where you're coming from,

712
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 3: I know where the pursuits coming from.

713
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 5: But having to turn.

714
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:25,080
Speaker 3: Real quick and everybody got eyes on me like I'm

715
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:25,960
Speaker 3: a damn pump return.

716
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 4: That makes me uncomfortable.

717
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:31,120
Speaker 2: Yeah it is, Yeah, I don't like that.

718
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 1: Through the first eight weeks of the season, the coach

719
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:38,720
Speaker 1: and Daniel Jones have been the biggest surprise. When Andy

720
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 1: signed Jones this offseason, he was widely viewed as another

721
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:45,560
Speaker 1: option behind twenty twenty three number four pick Anthony Richardson,

722
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:49,120
Speaker 1: but Jonathan Taylor realized the job with Jones after the

723
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 1: first practice when he first got in the training Campany

724
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 1: called check has been the playbook. But if you've been

725
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:58,720
Speaker 1: here one of those checks, that's like oh yeah, we

726
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:01,320
Speaker 1: call that sometimes. The fact that he called it is like,

727
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 1: did this guy have the playbook six months ago?

728
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 2: That's what I understood.

729
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 1: Oh okay, his level of preparation is different for him

730
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 1: to come in day one, day two and make that call,

731
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 1: make that check.

732
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 2: He's been studying.

733
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 1: It's day one of install and he's already that far ahead.

734
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 1: I'm like, this guy is legit. Yes, sir, I don't

735
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 1: know how I'm gonna ask you. I know how I

736
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 1: took that. I know how I took that. He didn't

737
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 1: say it. He he from praised, but that was a

738
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 1: I think that was a shot at they are go ahead,

739
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 1: but you go ahead.

740
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:43,000
Speaker 3: I think players don't intend to take shots at other

741
00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 3: individuals that play the same position when praising another I

742
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 3: think just praising the fact that Daniel Jones was so

743
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 3: well informed with the offense to have already been there,

744
00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 3: to know the way, to know what the ends and

745
00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 3: outs and the nuance of it after just getting there.

746
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 3: It's like, well, god, Lee, but you also have to

747
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 3: understand what je Dame Jones is fighting for it.

748
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:09,399
Speaker 4: He's fighting for.

749
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:12,240
Speaker 5: A job, an opportunity to start after leaving somewhere.

750
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 3: It just didn't work, and maybe this could have been

751
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 3: a good thing for Anthony richards in the seat. Okay, No,

752
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:22,000
Speaker 3: I have a better understanding of what I need to do,

753
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:24,440
Speaker 3: the way to conduct myself, not only as a pro,

754
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 3: but as quarterback number one. Well, uh was quarterback number

755
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 3: one of a team. This is the stuff I needed

756
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:34,560
Speaker 3: to do make sure I succeeded, not just in the classroom,

757
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:38,359
Speaker 3: not just in practice, but the results of doing so

758
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 3: and putting the work.

759
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:41,400
Speaker 4: In is going to show up on Sundays where it

760
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 4: mattered most.

761
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:48,759
Speaker 1: I don't think Jonathan Taylor was intentionally trying to take

762
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 1: a swipe at Anthony Richardson. He was heaping praise, but

763
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 1: in the process of heaping praise, people gonna look like

764
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:58,879
Speaker 1: with damn, yeah, he just got there a month ago,

765
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:00,799
Speaker 1: and you got a court the back that's been there

766
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:02,719
Speaker 1: for two years and he never did anything like this,

767
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:07,320
Speaker 1: and he had the playbook. So that's the thing. No

768
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:09,799
Speaker 1: o yo, No, was he out there trying to say, well, hey,

769
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:12,480
Speaker 1: we've heard a story. He was the first the league first,

770
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 1: he was the last day in the first out. They

771
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 1: minsed it for a reason. But that's what I mean.

772
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:25,640
Speaker 1: The quarterback the preparation has to be so intense and

773
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 1: if you and a lot of times that's why they

774
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:30,319
Speaker 1: go ahead and get mad because they like, I can't

775
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:30,839
Speaker 1: be out there.

776
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:31,720
Speaker 2: I need to be home.

777
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:33,839
Speaker 1: I need to be in front of this projector and

778
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 1: I need to was an iPad now oyo, and I

779
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 1: need to be going through and I need my mind

780
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:41,719
Speaker 1: focused on how not home? And so they're going over

781
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:44,799
Speaker 1: and over and over and over. I told you from

782
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:47,360
Speaker 1: day one, and once I saw what he was getting paid,

783
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 1: I said, we're gonna be starting.

784
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:50,799
Speaker 2: It ain't gonna be started.

785
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:53,239
Speaker 5: I'm not even sure when I saw that too.

786
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 3: Obviously, it's just having common sense and understanding the game,

787
00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 3: understanding the business at that though.

788
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:07,800
Speaker 1: Yep, what I didn't understand. If you got a project, okay,

789
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 1: somebody say you got a project car, or you got

790
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 1: a project home. Oh Joe, you don't try to drive

791
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 1: the car. You say you gotta fix something. You got

792
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:16,840
Speaker 1: a project, it's gonna take work. It's gonna take you

793
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 1: six months, it's gonna take you a year to get

794
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:22,759
Speaker 1: it operational. You got a project home, You're like, oh man,

795
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:24,480
Speaker 1: I got this home. I brought this home, but I'm

796
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 1: gonna fix it.

797
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 2: Up. You don't try to live in it.

798
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 1: You said this guy was a project, he had immense talent,

799
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:32,840
Speaker 1: and he does and you started.

800
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:37,280
Speaker 2: What changed, babe?

801
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 1: Just just go back and look at his tape from

802
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:43,920
Speaker 1: high school, look at his tape from college, and you

803
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 1: tell me this man should have been a starter from

804
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:51,319
Speaker 1: day one. No, oh, Joe, No, you did him. You

805
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:58,239
Speaker 1: did him a huge disservice. Can he go somewhere else

806
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:00,319
Speaker 1: it's gonna take. I mean, he's got something he needs

807
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:03,760
Speaker 1: to go get with someone to understand mechanics of throwing everything.

808
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:05,400
Speaker 1: You can't be throwing the football like you're trying to

809
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:08,240
Speaker 1: throw it through a hurricane, because nothing has touched.

810
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:10,279
Speaker 2: Everything is one hundred miles an hour.

811
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:13,440
Speaker 1: Shallow cross is throwing it like he's throwing a far

812
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:14,719
Speaker 1: across or deep over.

813
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:21,280
Speaker 2: No, bro, And look, give Daniel Jones credit.

814
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 1: He's came, he's come in and like you said, the

815
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 1: situation didn't work out. And in New York he had

816
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 1: to sit the bench, and in Minnesota, but he got

817
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 1: an opportunity. And he says, if I get another opportunity, take.

818
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 3: Advantage of it, because I'm not letting I can get

819
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:42,400
Speaker 3: too many not to be started now be a starter,

820
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 3: not to say, Okay, this is my team, I have

821
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 3: nothing to worry about.

822
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 4: You don't get too many of them chances, especially coming.

823
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:49,319
Speaker 5: From New York.

824
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:54,080
Speaker 3: Shoot, if you can't it done in New York, you know,

825
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 3: which is obviously what I would consider. I mean the

826
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:59,200
Speaker 3: big one of the biggest markets, maybe the biggest market.

827
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:00,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, you.

828
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:00,959
Speaker 5: Can deal with that meeting.

829
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 4: You could deal with anything you it is.

830
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:06,719
Speaker 2: It's just like you know, Trey Lance he was a project.

831
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:08,240
Speaker 2: He played.

832
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 4: I forgot about.

833
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:13,279
Speaker 2: I just I don't get it.

834
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 5: Where is Trey Lance at as a backup?

835
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 2: Is he in Dallas?

836
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:26,279
Speaker 1: Still a Houston? Because I know he wasn't. Oh no,

837
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 1: the Chargers.

838
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 5: He's on the Chargers, okay, because.

839
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:33,720
Speaker 1: He played basically he played all the preseason the Chargers.

840
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:41,719
Speaker 1: Carl Banks, who's the radio analyst for the Giants, was

841
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:45,239
Speaker 1: extremely critical this week of Dexter Lawrence on his podcast

842
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:50,880
Speaker 1: with Bob Popper Pop Dexter Lawrence, nobody respects you anymore, nobody,

843
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:54,399
Speaker 1: Banks said, before going on going in on to say

844
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:57,759
Speaker 1: Lawrence wasn't playing at the same level as previous seasons.

845
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:01,120
Speaker 1: Lawrence strongly disagreed with Banks, or saying sith sciting at

846
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 1: the rate in which he gets double team, those are

847
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 1: strong words. That's how you feel, ef it, he's delusional.

848
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 1: Lawrence is getting double team a league high seventy five

849
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:14,279
Speaker 1: percent of the past rate, seventy five percent of the

850
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:19,960
Speaker 1: rate on his past rush opportunities. Yeah, I know Banks.

851
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:23,840
Speaker 1: I played against Banks. Obviously he's older than me, but

852
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 1: I played against Banks. I think he was still at

853
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 1: the Giants. I know I played against him when he

854
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:30,320
Speaker 1: was at Cleveland because when Coach Belichick went in Cleveland,

855
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 1: he took Banks with it. Banks was originally one of

856
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:40,239
Speaker 1: the Giants him. It was him, PEP, Harry Carson, and LT.

857
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 1: So that's why I know him for him, So I know,

858
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 1: I know, I know, I know Banks. Yeah, what do

859
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 1: you what do you? What do you think?

860
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 2: Oh Joe?

861
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:50,800
Speaker 1: When when analysts come out played the game, he played

862
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 1: the game at a high level. I think one year

863
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 1: Banks was the first team All Pro. As a matter

864
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:58,400
Speaker 1: of fact, I think he beat an LT LT that

865
00:39:58,480 --> 00:39:59,799
Speaker 1: year he was the first team All Pro?

866
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 2: Uh what what? What?

867
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 1: What what do you say when guys are critical? I mean,

868
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:08,600
Speaker 1: you know, he just this is his opinion that he

869
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:12,480
Speaker 1: doesn't believe that that that Dexter is is playing at

870
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:15,680
Speaker 1: the level in what you've played in years past, and

871
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 1: playing got a level in which he got the big

872
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:19,880
Speaker 1: contract that the Giants given him, which you earned.

873
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 3: I mean, honestly, you got three defensive defensive tackles in

874
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:28,479
Speaker 3: the NFL that are considered the best right now. Chris

875
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:33,440
Speaker 3: Jones is one of them. Yeah, Jeffer Jeffers is another,

876
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:37,040
Speaker 3: and that third is in no particular order. In the

877
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 3: third is Dexter Lawrence. Now, I'm sure when mister Banks

878
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 3: is watching when it comes to football, especially the New

879
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 3: York Giants, I'm sure he probably watches all the Giants game,

880
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 3: being that he had.

881
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:51,719
Speaker 2: Yeah he's Aeless, Yeah, yeah, he and Bob Paper, yes,

882
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 2: and that he.

883
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:54,400
Speaker 3: Has a podcast that he's doing with Big Paper. But

884
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:59,279
Speaker 3: you can see and understand that they scheme ways to

885
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:00,760
Speaker 3: stop Exter Lawrence.

886
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:02,840
Speaker 5: Everybody down, it's.

887
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 3: Gonna be a double team. Second down, it's gonna be

888
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:08,880
Speaker 3: a double team. So you understand how difficult it is

889
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 3: for him to have the efficiency that Carl Banks is

890
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 3: looking for, saying that nobody's scared of you anymore.

891
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 5: If they weren't scared of him anymore, they wouldn't be

892
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 5: double team no one.

893
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 2: Let me ask your question, how many times you think

894
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:28,239
Speaker 2: AD got double? Now?

895
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:34,920
Speaker 3: Were talking about two different dogs. We talked about two

896
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:35,920
Speaker 3: totally different dogs.

897
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 1: You and I both know when you become that guy,

898
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:40,799
Speaker 1: you can't give excuses.

899
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 2: You can't say, hey, man, get up about your man

900
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 2: double me. We pay you to be.

901
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:49,480
Speaker 3: You've been in the trenches, right, Yeah, you know what

902
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:51,439
Speaker 3: it's like dying and now I'm not.

903
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 5: I know I play around a lot. I don't hate.

904
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:54,760
Speaker 4: I don't be dying.

905
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:57,799
Speaker 5: There, but I know what I'm strong. Joke you could do, and.

906
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:00,439
Speaker 2: I know what it's like and have your That's about

907
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 2: the way that and having.

908
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 3: To take on two of that every time, no matter

909
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 3: how strong you are, you mean, I gotta get I

910
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 3: gotta deal with two of me.

911
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:10,319
Speaker 5: Yeah.

912
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:13,880
Speaker 1: What we do, what we do, Ojoe, is that we

913
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 1: don't do it every time, but we do it enough

914
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:18,399
Speaker 1: that when we don't do it, you're anticipating it.

915
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:22,480
Speaker 2: So you hesitating. That's all I need. He who hesitated beat,

916
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:23,840
Speaker 2: So that's all I need to do.

917
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 1: I'm gonna double your ass enough that now when I

918
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 1: don't double, you're anticipating the double to come. What did

919
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 1: they what do they do? To receivers that used to

920
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:35,919
Speaker 1: get in the ball. What I'm gonna do is double

921
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:38,239
Speaker 1: you early on. I'm gonna get you frustrated. I ain't

922
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 1: gonna w the whole game. I just want to do

923
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:44,360
Speaker 1: it just the first quarter. Get you frustrated. Then I

924
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 1: got you.

925
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:45,920
Speaker 3: Damn.

926
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:52,200
Speaker 2: So I look, I get it. You look.

927
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:56,560
Speaker 1: I think when you when you're losing. Okay, what's going on?

928
00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:59,799
Speaker 1: Why aren't we winning? Because I think you look at

929
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:03,239
Speaker 1: got Law. They got Bibberdeau, they got Carter, they got

930
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:06,359
Speaker 1: Brian Burns. Ain't no reason you give up thirty three

931
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:07,880
Speaker 1: points in the fourth quarter. I don't give it that.

932
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:10,720
Speaker 3: What you say, squad? They got a nice squad of names.

933
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:13,760
Speaker 3: They got a nice squad of names.

934
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 1: Man, Brian, Brian, Uh, what's the what's his name? Brian

935
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:21,920
Speaker 1: Burns been to the Pro Bowl? That's the lards?

936
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 2: Was it all?

937
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:22,799
Speaker 5: Pro?

938
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:28,080
Speaker 2: Tib fibberd? They got. They got guys that can.

939
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:30,920
Speaker 1: Now the back end leaves a lot to be desired, okay,

940
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:34,719
Speaker 1: because they don't get there. It's gonna be a completion. Absolutely,

941
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:43,480
Speaker 1: he said, it's been double But it's hard o you.

942
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:45,920
Speaker 1: I mean, people like people talking and the thing is

943
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:46,920
Speaker 1: banks knows football.

944
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 2: Banks study is the game. He's a student of the game.

945
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 1: Anybody, No, no, no, no, it's it's not it's absolutely not.

946
00:43:56,600 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 1: All I can tell tell law Dex, Hey, just keep plugging, bro,

947
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:04,000
Speaker 1: just keep plugging away.

948
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 5: That's all you do.

949
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:05,920
Speaker 4: That's all you can do.

950
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:09,719
Speaker 5: But that god damn double team, boy, that's just what

951
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:11,000
Speaker 5: the thing, hell boy.

952
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 2: It is.

953
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 1: I mean, you got to realize they got six hundred

954
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:17,040
Speaker 1: pounds rooting your ass up out of there. You know,

955
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:20,560
Speaker 1: he's you know, he under his shade nose. Hey, bro,

956
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 1: you got the center and the guard. Oh, they don't

957
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:24,840
Speaker 1: get your ass up out of there.

958
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:25,600
Speaker 2: That's tough.

959
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 3: And it's so funny speaking of that, and watching Aaron

960
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:31,799
Speaker 3: Donald and some of the clips with him, and he

961
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 3: get off so fast and make it make yourself skinny.

962
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 4: To where he's.

963
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 3: Dealing with one man out of the double team and

964
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:43,320
Speaker 3: that that that's that's crazy.

965
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:45,759
Speaker 4: And every blue moon you'll see him he'll.

966
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 3: Grabbed one in the middle of the chest in one

967
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 3: hand and had the other way in the middle of

968
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 3: the chest with the other hand, and he and he

969
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:53,440
Speaker 3: looking he controlling everything.

970
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 4: I'm like, how the hell is he doing all that?

971
00:44:58,640 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 1: A lot of times you have to You have to

972
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:02,279
Speaker 1: able to feel the double team. You see how the

973
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:04,879
Speaker 1: guy how how if he's trying to reach me, they're

974
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 1: trying to scoop me, or they see they're trying to call.

975
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:09,320
Speaker 1: You know, they're trying to power, they're trying to combo

976
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 1: block me. But that's instinct. That's years and years of

977
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 1: playing that double team and understand it because you know,

978
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 1: like you said, hey, you gotta make him pile, but

979
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 1: he was so good at playing on the edge, so

980
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 1: he's not. And the same thing I tell tight ends, bro,

981
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 1: don't let that man square you up. You give him

982
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:35,000
Speaker 1: a side. You give him a side, don't let him

983
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:36,960
Speaker 1: put don't let him put his hands in your breastplate.

984
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:39,320
Speaker 2: You're not going nowhere.

985
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:41,839
Speaker 4: And don't let him be strong. You definitely moved.

986
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:46,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, you better be able to war. And that's what

987
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 1: that's what the good detacles.

988
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:49,759
Speaker 2: Look out. Look at Aaron donnad rush. You see he doing.

989
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:51,920
Speaker 1: He's doing like a wide receiver, tight End, he's up

990
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 1: there doing this. I trying to get skinny, trying to

991
00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 1: trying to run the rim. What we they used to

992
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:00,920
Speaker 1: have a circle of the guys running around it and

993
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:03,239
Speaker 1: see how low they could get and get around there.

994
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 4: Remember that.

995
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:08,279
Speaker 1: It's frustrated when you lose, or tell you know that.

996
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:12,799
Speaker 1: And when you lose. Okay, who makes the most money?

997
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:16,839
Speaker 1: God God making say fifty thousand dollars? Why are we

998
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:17,440
Speaker 1: talking about.

999
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 4: Him to that?

1000
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:22,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, and listen and almost and the funny thing about

1001
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:24,960
Speaker 3: it is a lot of people will see this is

1002
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 3: Hayden obviously when it comes to probably the best player

1003
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 3: on the defense.

1004
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:32,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, he is next through Lawrence.

1005
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 3: And to come out and say something like that, well,

1006
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:39,919
Speaker 3: people know, people aren't scaredy anymore when obviously you're statistically

1007
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 3: based on the numbers that you just said that anyone

1008
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:44,840
Speaker 3: that's being blocked and the other team seventy percent of

1009
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:45,799
Speaker 3: the time or more.

1010
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 4: I mean, there's your answer.

1011
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:55,719
Speaker 2: There's oh Joe.

1012
00:46:55,800 --> 00:47:00,560
Speaker 1: The Eagles are reportedly interested in a potential blockbuster trade

1013
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:05,479
Speaker 1: involving star pass rusher Miles Garrett. According to y'all Who's

1014
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:07,880
Speaker 1: Sports Charles Robinson, I've heard it from a couple of

1015
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 1: other super high ranking people and other teams that are

1016
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:14,280
Speaker 1: clearly on the phones that Howie Roseman and the Eagles

1017
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 1: are super hot at the Miles Garrett, that Hoy Roseman

1018
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:20,080
Speaker 1: will give up like three first round picks.

1019
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:22,640
Speaker 2: And a player.

1020
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:27,480
Speaker 1: You know, you know what, I think they'd probably be

1021
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:29,640
Speaker 1: willing to give up three first round picks and probably

1022
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:32,239
Speaker 1: Jordan Davis or one of those superstar you know, one

1023
00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:34,839
Speaker 1: of those young players. I don't think they'd be willing

1024
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 1: to give up Carter, but I think they'd be willing

1025
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:37,880
Speaker 1: to give up Davis.

1026
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:40,520
Speaker 2: But it's gonna take three first rounds and.

1027
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:42,279
Speaker 4: It's damn well is damn well worth it?

1028
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:45,239
Speaker 3: One thing about Howie Rosevehan, if you watch the way

1029
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 3: he maneuver him, the way he conducts business when it

1030
00:47:47,719 --> 00:47:50,400
Speaker 3: comes to getting players and building a team, building a roster,

1031
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:53,279
Speaker 3: you know. And obviously right now the main thing is

1032
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 3: the main thing with the Philadelphia Eagles, despite what everybody's

1033
00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:58,360
Speaker 3: talking about, they trying to go back and repeat on

1034
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:02,960
Speaker 3: absolute back and repeat, and goddamn, Howie rosemanth is pushing

1035
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:04,040
Speaker 3: all his chips in.

1036
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 4: On the table.

1037
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:07,480
Speaker 3: I know what I need, I know what piece can

1038
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:11,560
Speaker 3: help us, and that's going to get Yeah, goddamn, what happened?

1039
00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:14,239
Speaker 3: What happened if with that trade through her three first

1040
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 3: round picks and a player, what if they want a

1041
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:18,760
Speaker 3: J Brown in exchange?

1042
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 2: Hey, they won't you can have him?

1043
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:22,319
Speaker 4: What what?

1044
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 2: Yes?

1045
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:27,400
Speaker 1: Because the way I look at it, Oho, if I

1046
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:30,000
Speaker 1: get him and I'm and I'm the Philadelphia Eagles that

1047
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:32,480
Speaker 1: I believe I could be. Where are we gonna be

1048
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:36,280
Speaker 1: picking the bottom half? You're gonna get somewhere between twenty

1049
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 1: eight and thirty two. We're not gonna be in the

1050
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:42,080
Speaker 1: top ten. So it's not gonna hunters. It's not gonna

1051
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 1: hurt us. See now you mess around and you picking

1052
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 1: in the top ten. All uh Chicago, who's that?

1053
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 4: No?

1054
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:51,920
Speaker 2: Clear?

1055
00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 3: Uh?

1056
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 2: Uh? Carolina? Remember Carolina one of the first pick.

1057
00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:01,239
Speaker 1: And the next year boom that that that pick that

1058
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 1: you gave up is Caleb Williams.

1059
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:06,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I honestly mean, just thinking about it, the

1060
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:08,879
Speaker 3: only thing that makes sense. Okay, you're giving us three

1061
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:12,200
Speaker 3: first round picks, and we need something of equal value

1062
00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:14,640
Speaker 3: if we're letting if we're letting up.

1063
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:16,840
Speaker 1: But I wouldn't give up both though, O Joe, I

1064
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 1: would give up three first round picks. You don't you

1065
00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:22,640
Speaker 1: don't get a J and Cardinal with AJ and right

1066
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:26,160
Speaker 1: you can get you can get a J. You know what,

1067
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:28,960
Speaker 1: I might be willing to give up Carter and keep

1068
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:29,760
Speaker 1: Jordan Davis.

1069
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:36,319
Speaker 3: No, No, absolutely not, I would no, mm hmm.

1070
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:37,879
Speaker 4: I'm going the opposite way.

1071
00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:42,360
Speaker 3: And obviously it might not be anybody defensively with with

1072
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 3: all the smoke, with all the talking, you know, they

1073
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:48,760
Speaker 3: might let sticks go because I think that's the value

1074
00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:51,719
Speaker 3: who Davante, I say, sis, I mean that be Leven?

1075
00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:57,800
Speaker 1: Oh oh oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I can see that.

1076
00:49:58,080 --> 00:50:02,000
Speaker 1: But I think o Jo Carter hadn't been the same player,

1077
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:04,960
Speaker 1: and the injuries he then wasn't in shape like he

1078
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:10,040
Speaker 1: was supposed to see Teams factored that in Oh Jo

1079
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:13,720
Speaker 1: your Kids twenty four. So if he's not in shape

1080
00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:16,360
Speaker 1: at twenty four, what makes me think he's gonna be

1081
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:18,919
Speaker 1: in shape at twenty six, twenty seven, twenty eight. Cause

1082
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:21,319
Speaker 1: and now, Ojo, I got to give a big car.

1083
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:23,839
Speaker 1: I gotta put a big contract on the table. Now

1084
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:26,720
Speaker 1: he's gonna want thirty thirty two, thirty three, thirty four million?

1085
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:27,480
Speaker 2: Am I willing?

1086
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:30,440
Speaker 1: Is that someone I can trust to invest that kind

1087
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:32,160
Speaker 1: of money in? I already know what I'm gonna be

1088
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:34,520
Speaker 1: at Miles Garrett. I'm cool with that. I already know

1089
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:38,319
Speaker 1: Miles Garret's gonna play like he's broke and he's one

1090
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:41,319
Speaker 1: of the highest played defensive players in football. So I'm

1091
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:43,799
Speaker 1: I'm not ever worried about him being in shape. Now

1092
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:45,600
Speaker 1: I got to worry about him speeding a little bit. Hey,

1093
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:48,959
Speaker 1: they amn miles slowed down. Damn bro. But uh hey,

1094
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:52,160
Speaker 1: I'm sure they've had they I think Andrew Barry has

1095
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:54,520
Speaker 1: had a conversation with him. I think he's got like

1096
00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:56,960
Speaker 1: six speeding tickets, a couple of them excess of one

1097
00:50:57,040 --> 00:50:57,839
Speaker 1: hundred miles an hour.

1098
00:50:58,080 --> 00:50:59,759
Speaker 2: That's something that he needs to work on.

1099
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:01,719
Speaker 1: But I don't have to worry about him when it

1100
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:04,560
Speaker 1: comes to being in condition and being him playing hard.

1101
00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:07,080
Speaker 1: I don't have to light a fire up under oh

1102
00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:09,000
Speaker 1: Joe if I pay you that kind of money, Oh Joe,

1103
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:10,799
Speaker 1: I don't need to give you no pep talk.

1104
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:13,480
Speaker 2: I don't need to say, come on, son, we need

1105
00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:15,040
Speaker 2: it today. Written what.

1106
00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:20,080
Speaker 1: I need you to say? Hey, Son, I don't need

1107
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:23,440
Speaker 1: you can't practice today because I don't want you to

1108
00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:27,400
Speaker 1: hurt nobody. That's That's that's how it should be.

1109
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 2: Look I all we can go by is O Joe.

1110
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:34,720
Speaker 2: By body language. What's being said.

1111
00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:38,400
Speaker 1: Something is going on that AJ doesn't seem happy, he

1112
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:40,640
Speaker 1: doesn't feel like he's getting the targets that because he's

1113
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:46,920
Speaker 1: Oh Joe, he's looking at a what up in Cincinnati?

1114
00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:51,120
Speaker 1: That man got forty two targets. I haven't got forty

1115
00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:53,920
Speaker 1: two targets all year. This man got forty two targets

1116
00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:54,560
Speaker 1: in two games.

1117
00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:56,040
Speaker 2: Different.

1118
00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:59,520
Speaker 1: He's looking at Pookah, he's looking at Jedda, he's looking

1119
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:01,120
Speaker 1: at all the these guys that he said, I'm a

1120
00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:05,040
Speaker 1: number one, and I see number one. They get their targets,

1121
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:08,759
Speaker 1: they get seven, eight, ten targets a game. I get

1122
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:11,040
Speaker 1: three or four, and I'm supposed to be okay with that.

1123
00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:13,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're supposed to be okay with that when you're

1124
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:15,800
Speaker 3: win it. And that's that's what everybody says. But you

1125
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:18,120
Speaker 3: got to be careful what you wish for because you

1126
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:18,640
Speaker 3: gotta think.

1127
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:21,240
Speaker 4: But you got to tell people think about the situation.

1128
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 5: Trade deadline is what the fourth.

1129
00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:28,200
Speaker 2: November fourth, So Tuesday, Tuesday at four o'clock.

1130
00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:30,920
Speaker 3: You gotta be careful what you wish for because you're

1131
00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:34,480
Speaker 3: coming from a perfect situation. And what happens if you

1132
00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:40,400
Speaker 3: end up in Cleveland because there's inconsistent play at the

1133
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:46,160
Speaker 3: quarterback position. Yeah, I think if you put a a J.

1134
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:48,640
Speaker 3: Brown in that system, now, I think they will put

1135
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:51,440
Speaker 3: you in position to be able to get for that.

1136
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:52,920
Speaker 3: You got damn catches game.

1137
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:56,720
Speaker 2: But who can get it to it? Man? You trusted,

1138
00:52:56,800 --> 00:52:59,319
Speaker 2: you trusted? No no, no, no, no no. It takes

1139
00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:00,000
Speaker 2: a It takes.

1140
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:04,000
Speaker 1: It's a veteran quarterback to target somebody twenty three times

1141
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:07,480
Speaker 1: and the guy called, what did he catch? Like sixteen

1142
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:10,800
Speaker 1: of them? He got targeted? What six nineteen times? He

1143
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:15,160
Speaker 1: caught twelve of them? Everybody, everybody doesn't know how to

1144
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:21,200
Speaker 1: do that. But the things that I love most about

1145
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:27,520
Speaker 1: the Eagles, and I love this about the Lions also,

1146
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:31,920
Speaker 1: is that not only are they developing players, they're not

1147
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:34,200
Speaker 1: afraid to go get somebody they feel that can really

1148
00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:37,520
Speaker 1: help them get to that. You see you look at

1149
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:41,399
Speaker 1: and uh where it's uh oh, we're gonna talk about

1150
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:43,319
Speaker 1: it a little like I'll touch on it right now.

1151
00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:46,719
Speaker 1: You look at the joint. They say, man, we need

1152
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:49,160
Speaker 1: to look Matthew Stafford, he wants to go block. Okay,

1153
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:51,239
Speaker 1: we'll make a trade that k Rams give us two

1154
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:54,799
Speaker 1: first rounders and Jered Goff. Now they gonna get Pi,

1155
00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:57,440
Speaker 1: they sul, they get your mere Gibbs. Now they get

1156
00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:00,560
Speaker 1: j j Mo, they get Am and Rock Saint Brown,

1157
00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:04,440
Speaker 1: they get a Hutchinson and guess what they've done, O Joe.

1158
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:08,560
Speaker 1: We drafted them, we developed them, we paid them. Look

1159
00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:10,680
Speaker 1: at the money that they paid all these guys. You

1160
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:15,000
Speaker 1: see four years to twelve four years, one, eighty four years, one,

1161
00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:18,960
Speaker 1: twenty four years, won, twelve four years, ninety three. You see,

1162
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:21,680
Speaker 1: you see a real current thing. Now, guys know, now,

1163
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:23,960
Speaker 1: if I come here and I work my butt off,

1164
00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:27,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get paid. Ain't no dealy dalling around, ain't

1165
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:29,759
Speaker 1: playing no mind games. And the buck stops with me

1166
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:32,120
Speaker 1: on my desk, and don't nobody get this and that

1167
00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:33,879
Speaker 1: ain't about no egos, Brad.

1168
00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:36,080
Speaker 2: Kudos to Brad Holmes, the general manager.

1169
00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:39,560
Speaker 3: And also kudos to him for drafting too, for drafting well,

1170
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:43,680
Speaker 3: because Brad Holmes, that's ent draft players and hope they

1171
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:46,680
Speaker 3: pan out, and they actually don't pan out. But it's

1172
00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:50,840
Speaker 3: like everyone they drafted today, it always just seems to

1173
00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:52,600
Speaker 3: pan out, which is why they've been able to pay

1174
00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:54,759
Speaker 3: players and develop them and.

1175
00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:56,839
Speaker 4: They get the money that they get.

1176
00:54:57,280 --> 00:54:59,759
Speaker 2: Because Kirby Joe drafted really well.

1177
00:54:59,840 --> 00:54:59,960
Speaker 6: Man.

1178
00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:03,000
Speaker 2: Uh you know they I mean, they've done They've done

1179
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:04,439
Speaker 2: a great job. You look at that D line.

1180
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:07,400
Speaker 1: You look at those linebackers Campbell and you look at uh,

1181
00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:10,640
Speaker 1: what's the big D lineman that just came back. They've

1182
00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:13,319
Speaker 1: done a great job of identifying a player that fits

1183
00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:15,960
Speaker 1: their system. You know, Coach Cabelichick used to take a

1184
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:17,920
Speaker 1: lot of criticism for guys like who is this guy?

1185
00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:20,480
Speaker 1: But Coach Belichick knew what he was looking for. He's

1186
00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:23,160
Speaker 1: looking for two guys defensive linemen. You not gonna get

1187
00:55:23,239 --> 00:55:26,200
Speaker 1: no sacks. Remember Chris Long left, He said, yeah, it's

1188
00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:28,280
Speaker 1: fun to win, but I want to be a player.

1189
00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:31,360
Speaker 1: I just don't want to hold up so the linebackers

1190
00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:33,960
Speaker 1: can make plays. My job is a defensive as an

1191
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:37,400
Speaker 1: edge rusher. Excuse me, Chad, I want to hunt the quarterback.

1192
00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:40,440
Speaker 1: I don't want to just sit on the porch and

1193
00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:45,080
Speaker 1: bart let me hunt. And so you identify the player

1194
00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:49,760
Speaker 1: that's gonna fit the system, a player that personality wise

1195
00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:53,279
Speaker 1: will fit your system, because it doesn't do any good

1196
00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:55,760
Speaker 1: if the guy fits the system but he's a jackass.

1197
00:55:57,960 --> 00:56:00,200
Speaker 1: You have to identify that. You identify that that you

1198
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:02,760
Speaker 1: do your homework. Now you're gonna miss some because sometimes

1199
00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:03,520
Speaker 1: guys can fool

1200
00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:12,719
Speaker 2: You, absolutely, But I just love what they do. M.