1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:04,040 Speaker 1: Even if I'm bombing, I can't give off the air 2 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 1: of you know what if I don't care because they 3 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:09,240 Speaker 1: pay their money and I want to honor that. I 4 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 1: still will like tank and like it won't get better. 5 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 1: But my mentality is less like I don't care and 6 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:20,120 Speaker 1: it's more like this sucks. Try and learn from Remember 7 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 1: when like tire Banks, So she had that meltdown with 8 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:25,119 Speaker 1: till Tiffany. She was like, I learn something from this. 9 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 1: So that's so I always try to learn something from 10 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:40,200 Speaker 1: the bomb. So excited to have a fee Be Robinson 11 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:43,239 Speaker 1: on the podcast. I'll get ready to laugh and I 12 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 1: say get it's g I t not get, but get 13 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 1: get get get ready to laugh because she is so funny. 14 00:00:50,640 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 1: Phoebe Robinson, comedian, producer, actor on Naked Every Champion and 15 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 1: carry Champion is to be a champion of Champion and 16 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:16,400 Speaker 1: carry Champion and carry champion. The champion and carry chappion 17 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:19,320 Speaker 1: and carry champion rates raiders and sports and entertain making 18 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 1: naked worker in the world with vulnerable considered, we come 19 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 1: and remove the vail from entertainment elite. It's a difference 20 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 1: between what it's real and with the public seats. So 21 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:32,040 Speaker 1: here's your favorite celebrities behind the scenes. It's refreshing up 22 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:35,040 Speaker 1: then the whole story specific life, all to rendivents to 23 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 1: shape the person that you can. We gotta champion and 24 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 1: carry champion the girl. You did it. It's the greatest 25 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 1: in sports and entertainment. Connaked with every champion and carry 26 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 1: champions to be a champion, the champion, they carry champion, 27 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 1: the girl, Chappy kout the champion and carry Champion and 28 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 1: carry champion. Rader fraiders and sports and entertaining and naked. 29 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 1: Get into it, y'all. I say this every week, but 30 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 1: this week I'm not kidding. You're gonna laugh. You're gonna 31 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 1: have a good time our guests. You may know her actor, comedian, 32 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 1: producer Phoebe Robinson, best known as co creator um and 33 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 1: co star of the HBO limited series You guys remember 34 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 1: Two Dog Queen's Yeah, Okay, Phoebe Robinson. That's what I'm 35 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 1: talking about. She has a show on Comedy Central. God 36 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 1: Doing the Most with Phoebe Robinson. I watched it. It 37 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 1: was funny. She was, you know, feeding horses with you know, 38 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:24,080 Speaker 1: other comedians and doing things with superstars that arguably she 39 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 1: probably shouldn't be doing. But it was funny to watch it. Um. 40 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 1: She is a New York Times bestselling author. You can't 41 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 1: touch my hair and other things I still have to explain. 42 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 1: Like imagine a book filled with right whether their cultural 43 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 1: or just being about being a woman or dating or 44 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:41,679 Speaker 1: whatever the case may be. I'm about to tell you 45 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 1: all the things you cannot do. Um. She has another 46 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 1: book that was also on the list the New York 47 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 1: Times best Selling Lists. Everything's trash, but It's okay. That's 48 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 1: how I currently feel about the state of America. Everything's trash, 49 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 1: but it's okay. We're gonna get through this. Um. And 50 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:59,920 Speaker 1: she has her own literary imprint. It's called Tiny Reparations Book, 51 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 1: but her books specifically, Please don't sit on my bed 52 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:07,800 Speaker 1: in your outside close, September on the shelves. I'm saying 53 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:11,520 Speaker 1: that on purpose, September twenty around the corner. Help my girl, 54 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 1: celebrate my girl. Go. I'll get that book. Please don't 55 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 1: sit on my bed and you're outside clothes. She sounds 56 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:19,239 Speaker 1: like my mom. You guys, that is a saying in 57 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:21,520 Speaker 1: the culture. Your mom ever tell you, or just anybody. 58 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 1: You go to somebody's house and you're trying to sit 59 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 1: on a bed with your outside clothes. You've been outside 60 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 1: playing all day. You've been in your street clothes, the 61 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 1: lights you've been you've been outside since the street lights 62 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:31,359 Speaker 1: just came on. You came back in and tried to 63 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 1: come in the house and sit on the bed, not 64 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 1: on my clean bed. You don't do that. Uh um. 65 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 1: In addition, she has a one hour stand up comedy 66 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 1: special that is set to premiere October four on HBO. 67 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 1: When I tell you, this is her year, her month, 68 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 1: her season, it is her season. What I like about 69 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 1: her the most, though, is that I watched her I'm 70 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 1: watching from Afar, and I'm inspired as she's really building 71 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 1: an empire. Like as we said, she is all these 72 00:03:57,320 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 1: multi hyphen it but she also has a literary print 73 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 1: where she's looking for people who have different things to 74 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 1: say and give them platforms where people can find them. Writers. 75 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 1: There are so many great writers and authors out there 76 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 1: that you never heard of, and Phoebe wants to bring 77 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 1: them to you. Like. I love that. I love that 78 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:17,359 Speaker 1: she's a writer in her own right. Too many rights. Um. 79 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 1: And she's very funny. Her humor, though, for me, I think, 80 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:27,719 Speaker 1: is welcoming and warming. Um. She's able to be very 81 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 1: vocal about what is right and what is wrong, as 82 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 1: comedians often do, but she does it in a way 83 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 1: in which it feels very receivable. Is sometimes maybe your 84 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 1: parents say, it's not what you say, it's how you 85 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:45,239 Speaker 1: say it. I definitely need to work on that, because 86 00:04:45,279 --> 00:04:47,840 Speaker 1: when I say it, people want to fight me. Um. 87 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 1: And it's definitely in the way in which I say it. 88 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:52,479 Speaker 1: But she I talked to her about this, I go, 89 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 1: I'm so impressed because I was just on her. I G. 90 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:58,119 Speaker 1: Even as I'm writing or writing this intro and giving 91 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:00,120 Speaker 1: it to you all, I'm on her, I G. And 92 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 1: I just I think it goes from I'm very vocal 93 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:08,160 Speaker 1: about what's wrong, um, in this world, I'm gonna talk 94 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 1: about George Floyd, Brianna Taylor, I'm going to talk about 95 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:14,280 Speaker 1: what's going on in our country. Um. But then I'm 96 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:17,359 Speaker 1: also going to give you, you you know, a man crush 97 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 1: my day if you will. Um. And I'm paraphrasing where 98 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:22,480 Speaker 1: she just posts hot asked dudes and they're all hot 99 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:24,720 Speaker 1: and from all backgrounds and they're all I'm like, hey girl, 100 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 1: I like all this. But then but then, you know, 101 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 1: as she is promoting her new book, She gives her phoebeisms, 102 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 1: one of which is, ladies, you have to wear a 103 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 1: matching bra and panty. I like to keep it sexy 104 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:41,040 Speaker 1: because the show is called naked like my booze. No, 105 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 1: I keep it sexy, sexy, sexy, sexy. I love a 106 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 1: matching bra and panty set, and it's not just for 107 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 1: our special occasion. I try to do it often, but 108 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 1: I don't do it as much as I should. And 109 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 1: I am inspired. I'm about to hit the lingerie store. 110 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:58,599 Speaker 1: I'm about to go buck Okay, I'm gonna stay sexy. 111 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 1: Why not? She says, it's mandatory. I'm like, damn, okay, Okay, 112 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 1: she called me out. I consider myself the lady, says 113 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:10,159 Speaker 1: of the ladies z z s. Yeah. But more importantly, 114 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 1: I want you guys to really support her. She has 115 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 1: so many different projects coming out. She has so many 116 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 1: things that you can probably read. Um. She is trying 117 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:20,360 Speaker 1: to save the world one laugh at a time, one 118 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 1: braun panty at a time. Sit back, relax, enjoy because 119 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 1: this is gonna be funny. Because I put myself out here. 120 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:29,600 Speaker 1: I'm trying to find a boo every show. I'm trying 121 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 1: to find a boo enjoy. Phoebe Robinson. Welcome to the show, 122 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 1: Phoebe Robinson. How are you. I'm good, Thanks for having 123 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 1: me on. I'm so stuked to be here. I think 124 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 1: you're one of my favorite interviewers, so I'm all like, 125 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 1: whenever you want to talk, I'm here. It's great. I 126 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 1: love that I saw that you went on Jamal, my 127 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:53,799 Speaker 1: partner in crime on television her podcast. I was looking 128 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:55,719 Speaker 1: at her calendar. I was like, would you tell Phoebe? 129 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 1: I said, hey, I was all in her business. Did 130 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:01,920 Speaker 1: she tell you or did she forget it? She did? 131 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 1: You guys together are just uh, it's so great. It's 132 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 1: so great to watch. Well, um we have a really really, 133 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 1: really interesting, great friendship, and I think that there is 134 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 1: a lot of the when you recognize it in other women, 135 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 1: you want to be around it. So I think that 136 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 1: might be one of the many reasons. I I was 137 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 1: a fan obviously from your first HBO special, but I 138 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 1: literally was like, you let me ask you this. Yes, 139 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 1: when you did the HBO special to dub Queens the 140 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 1: limited series, did you know the impact it would have 141 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 1: on your life? Specifically? Um? No, because you just I 142 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 1: mean like when I started, like when you were growing 143 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 1: up as a kid. I know, I'm gonna date myself 144 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 1: for all the gens ears out there. But there there 145 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 1: wasn't I go all this streaming stuff there was. It 146 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 1: was just like HBO and Comedy Central were the only 147 00:07:56,360 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 1: two places for comedy. There wasn't this level of competition 148 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 1: there is now, so like now putting out stuff, I 149 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 1: never really know what's going to resonate, what's not gonna 150 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 1: hit what. Like some of these I think, I'm like, oh, 151 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 1: people are gonna respond to that, and it's kind of 152 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 1: just like a blip. So I think when we did, 153 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 1: we certainly understood the bigness of doing HBO. Um, anyone 154 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 1: who works in comedy, Like if you get on HBO, 155 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 1: that is like the Holy Grail. It's just huge. But 156 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:32,200 Speaker 1: you know, I think when we saw the I remember 157 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 1: I was in Portland's with my boyfriend and we were 158 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 1: watching because he got me into Game of Thrones, and 159 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 1: we were watching, like before the episode came on the air. 160 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 1: There's like the little like teaser for like these are 161 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 1: the shows that are coming up this season, and we 162 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 1: saw like just like the clip of Jess and I 163 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 1: on stage, and I was just like, oh wow, like 164 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 1: we're in an ad on HBO. That's when I was like, oh, 165 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:01,200 Speaker 1: this might actually be more than just like five people. 166 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:08,440 Speaker 1: You're like, this is a big deal. Yeah. Yeah, because 167 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 1: when you do it, you just sort of like, as 168 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 1: you know, when you're do anything, your head is so 169 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 1: focused on the work that you kind of can't get 170 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 1: outside of that. Just sort of like taking the bigness 171 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:20,679 Speaker 1: of the moment. You have to focus. And so when 172 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:23,079 Speaker 1: you do have those moments, you're like, Okay, like I'm 173 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:26,080 Speaker 1: not just doing this in a vacuum. You know you are. 174 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 1: You are speaking the truth as I lean into the mic, 175 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 1: you are speaking the truth. When you are are so 176 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:33,719 Speaker 1: focused on what you need to do, you don't even 177 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 1: under I I and I'm sure you can. You don't like, 178 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 1: oh I forgot to tell you, I'll be here and 179 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 1: I'm doing that. Like you're just so if in the 180 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:45,560 Speaker 1: moment you're so focused. I think that when I think 181 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 1: of comedians, and I've been I don't know if you've 182 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:49,680 Speaker 1: been listening to this podcast, SmartLess I shouldn't talk about 183 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 1: other podcasts, but I've been listening to this podcast called 184 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 1: SmartLess UM, and they were talking about lives of comedians 185 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 1: and it's Jason Bateman and Sean Hayes and Will Arnette 186 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:02,199 Speaker 1: and they were like, it's like Maya Rudolf, who I love, 187 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:04,480 Speaker 1: was on there because it's really sad and it's dark. 188 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:14,439 Speaker 1: Would you agree? I? I think for me, I wouldn't 189 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 1: say sad and dark because I'm not struggling with any 190 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:24,679 Speaker 1: particular demons. But I do think there is a loneliness 191 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 1: aspect to it, especially when you're touring. Like I have 192 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 1: my special coming out on HBO Max, my first solo 193 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 1: stand up special, and um, you know, I was supposed tour. 194 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:41,719 Speaker 1: I was supposed to tape it last year. So I 195 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:47,320 Speaker 1: spent probably eight months in twenty nineteen touring, and you 196 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 1: just bop around from city to city and like you 197 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 1: you you know, you're living in a hotel. Sometimes the 198 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 1: hotels like aren't that great, They're not that clean. You're 199 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:00,560 Speaker 1: focused on getting it right because you know, and goal 200 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 1: is I'm trying to sell this special. So like as 201 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 1: much as this is fun, like I'm taking, I'm doing 202 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 1: like any amount of stage time taking like maybe some 203 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:12,440 Speaker 1: like not so great paying gigs and the hopes of 204 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:16,680 Speaker 1: selling this to then get like decent pay um. And 205 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:18,960 Speaker 1: I think it's like you just spend a lot of 206 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:24,440 Speaker 1: time by yourself. And I am a person who I 207 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:29,080 Speaker 1: like traveling, but I don't like it when it's like 208 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 1: every single weekend I'm in a different city like that. 209 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:34,199 Speaker 1: To me, I'm like, I need to have a place, 210 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:36,560 Speaker 1: like a sense of home. I need to like have 211 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 1: like my space and my serenity. So for me, I 212 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 1: think that touring stand up can be lonely. And I'm 213 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:46,439 Speaker 1: sure other comedians feel like that, so maybe that's perhaps 214 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:48,560 Speaker 1: why they turn to drugs. Like I, you know, don't 215 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:51,559 Speaker 1: know everyone's story, so I don't want to make that generalization, 216 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:53,960 Speaker 1: but I do think there's an element of like you're 217 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 1: the person who comes into town make everyone laugh, and 218 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:01,720 Speaker 1: then you just kind of have to like leave and 219 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 1: then that's it goodbye. Yeah, And it's a very strange. 220 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 1: It's a strange profession to be like I am so 221 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 1: funny and interesting that I am going to stand on 222 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:21,839 Speaker 1: stage and talk for an hour uninterrupted, Like that is 223 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 1: a very that's an ignorant thing to be like, this 224 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:28,480 Speaker 1: is what I'm going to do, you know what I mean, Well, 225 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:33,199 Speaker 1: for you to say that way is so profound. I mean, 226 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:34,840 Speaker 1: there's so much more to it. But if you just 227 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:41,560 Speaker 1: said the job description, that's that's amazing. Yeah, And so 228 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:46,319 Speaker 1: I think that, like especially for comedians, where they really 229 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:51,840 Speaker 1: need that attention to help sort of deal with whatever 230 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 1: is going on with them internally or in their lives. 231 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 1: Like when you don't have that, that is very unset 232 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 1: settling for them. And I am. I've done some like 233 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:03,719 Speaker 1: work on myself and during COVID, and one of the 234 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:06,079 Speaker 1: things I realized is that I'm an ambivert, which means 235 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:11,320 Speaker 1: I have both extroverted and introverted tendencies. So for me, 236 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:17,680 Speaker 1: doing a show is just emotionally and spiritually draining, which 237 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 1: is why I want to do a show. I just 238 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 1: want to go back to the hotel room. Like I 239 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 1: don't want to hang out, I don't want a party. 240 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:25,080 Speaker 1: I'm trying to have more fun because I'm realizing that 241 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 1: is like not healthy, like I need to like hang 242 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:29,679 Speaker 1: out with friends and blah blah blah, but I just 243 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 1: like need to recharge the batteries. And so I'm not 244 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 1: after I do a show, I'm like not craving any 245 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 1: more interaction because I'm so drained. But if you're not 246 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 1: built like that, you want that you need that energy 247 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:45,440 Speaker 1: because you can't just go off, like you know, do 248 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:47,680 Speaker 1: a show for like a thousand people and go off 249 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 1: stage and go just go back to your hotel room 250 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:52,679 Speaker 1: by yourself. Like that's a that's a downer. But that's 251 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 1: why athletes have such a hard time when they retire, 252 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 1: or if they're forced to retire, or sometimes they can't 253 00:13:57,000 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 1: walk away that adrenaline, that rush, that beat off the crowd. 254 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:03,679 Speaker 1: You'll never get anything to replace it. So you're right, 255 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 1: it's like you kill it or what about though the 256 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 1: opposite part in your in your world, if you bomb, 257 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 1: can you go back to your room and chill out? 258 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 1: You don't want to feel you don't want to be 259 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:17,439 Speaker 1: around people. Yeah, you know definitely when I was trying 260 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 1: to get this hour together, and you definitely have some 261 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 1: suit Like I remember I did Philly in twenty nineteen 262 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 1: and it was rough, like I was like, oh, they 263 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 1: are not here for me, and in this moment, I'm 264 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 1: barely here for me because I don't win that well. Um, 265 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 1: so yeah, it's just like one of those things where 266 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 1: you feel like you kind of have this stink to you. 267 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 1: So I I definitely just want to go back to 268 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 1: the hotel, room order some room service, watch some like 269 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 1: nineties TV on like nickd Night, and try and forget 270 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 1: that I stunk up the place. But can I ask 271 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 1: a question? I for a while, a long time, especially 272 00:14:58,000 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 1: growing up here in l A. I used to when 273 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 1: I had a really good friend in college who knew 274 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 1: she was going to work with comedians and be in 275 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 1: the business some capacity, and so like at twenty, we 276 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 1: would go to the comedy store or we would just 277 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 1: be at these different places. The laugh actor, I'm like, 278 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 1: why are we here? Like what's going on? Um? But 279 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 1: when I didn't realize how important it is for us 280 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 1: to be involved. And I think the average person who 281 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 1: doesn't live in your world to understand entertainment. When they 282 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 1: go to they just expect to be entertained. I want 283 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 1: you to talk to me about what it feels like, 284 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 1: like when you're on stage and you know your bombing, 285 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 1: Like when I have a shitty live interview, I'm aware 286 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:39,520 Speaker 1: and quickly Twitter will tell me. But I'm like, I 287 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 1: know this ship is awful. I'm trying to do my best. 288 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 1: I can't make this person talk, you know what I mean. 289 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 1: I don't need you to tell me I suck I know. 290 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 1: So when you're up there, what do you I mean, 291 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 1: what are you feeling? And when do you know it's spiraling? 292 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 1: Is it five minutes in? Is it ten minutes in? 293 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 1: Is it? What? How to work? Or every situation is different. Yeah, 294 00:16:03,520 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 1: I feel like there are different kinds of bombing, but 295 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 1: definitely you can kind of tell the certain nights. You 296 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 1: can be like like ten minutes and you can be like, yeah, 297 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 1: this is not going to be the night, so you 298 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 1: just try and get through the material. But you're also 299 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 1: like when I was younger and I would just be 300 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 1: like bombing, I'd be in my head, I'd be like, 301 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 1: you know what, I don't care, like funk this? And 302 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 1: then like as I got older, I was kind of like, 303 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 1: even though I'm bombing, these people paid. They have babysitters, 304 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 1: they pay for their ubers, they pay for dinner. So 305 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 1: even if I'm bombing, I can't give off the air 306 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 1: of you know what, funk this? I don't care because 307 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 1: they pay their money and I want to honor that. 308 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 1: I still will like tank and like it won't get better, 309 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 1: but my mentality is less like I don't care and 310 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 1: it's more like this sucks. Try and learn from remember 311 00:16:56,600 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 1: when light Tire Banks, when she had that meltdown with 312 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 1: Till Tiffany, she was like, learn something from this. So 313 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:11,479 Speaker 1: that's so I always try to learn something from the bomb. 314 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:15,960 Speaker 1: And sometimes it's just like, oh, like I should have 315 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:19,679 Speaker 1: started with different material or all they just weren't interested 316 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:21,439 Speaker 1: in me, Or sometimes I should just started with some 317 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:23,879 Speaker 1: crowdworks so they could get to know who I am, curse, 318 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:26,720 Speaker 1: and then I could go into the material. And then 319 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 1: sometimes it's like my head I just was in the 320 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 1: right head space to be doing stand up that night, 321 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:33,919 Speaker 1: and so I didn't bring it, and I think the 322 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:37,160 Speaker 1: audience maybe picked up on that. So they also maybe 323 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:39,400 Speaker 1: didn't bring all of themselves to the show, you know. 324 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 1: So you take a lot of responsibility, Like I love 325 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:43,640 Speaker 1: that about you. And I don't know if that's because 326 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:46,159 Speaker 1: you're a woman, but you're taking You're like you, hey, 327 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:48,719 Speaker 1: their money, they paid, they should be here, you know. 328 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 1: I just I want to perform like it. Maybe it 329 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:53,440 Speaker 1: was in the right headspace, you know, or maybe I 330 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 1: should have. I've been to these situations, have been in 331 00:17:57,600 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 1: some situations where it Comman's like you guys suck, They're 332 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:04,639 Speaker 1: off audience. Wait, what is that like, how do you 333 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:06,879 Speaker 1: get mad at the audience for not laughing? You know 334 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 1: what I'm talking about? Like you've been there usually, and 335 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 1: it's usually like a male comedian with so much like 336 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 1: a chip on his shoulder, He's like, this crowd's whack tonight. 337 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 1: I should just get off stage. You're just like, how 338 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:19,160 Speaker 1: are you blaming me? I don't. We're sorry, sir, You're 339 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:24,120 Speaker 1: not funny tonight, you know. Yeah, I mean I definitely 340 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:28,440 Speaker 1: had I would say I'm not necessarily like terrible crowds, 341 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 1: but I think I will say there's a specific kind 342 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:37,719 Speaker 1: of like white liberal crowd that wants to be super woke. 343 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:43,880 Speaker 1: So they're very like I want to I want every 344 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 1: I want to be on the right side of history, 345 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 1: and I'm only gonna laugh at things that I think 346 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:49,639 Speaker 1: are like and you're like, calm down, this isn't like 347 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:52,439 Speaker 1: you actually doing work, you know what I mean. Like 348 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 1: they think they're doing work by going to a stand 349 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 1: up comedy show and being like, I I don't want 350 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:00,359 Speaker 1: to hear anything about race because we just needed to 351 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:02,680 Speaker 1: get through it, you know what I mean. So those 352 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 1: kind of audiences where they're so tight and I and 353 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:08,639 Speaker 1: I've said before and I was like, the fact that 354 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:10,600 Speaker 1: you guys don't want to laugh at this or want 355 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 1: to talk about this is part of the problem, like 356 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:16,120 Speaker 1: not addressing it, Like let's all pretend like we're coming 357 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:18,880 Speaker 1: out of and we're just supposed to ignore a race 358 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:22,160 Speaker 1: like literally makes no sense. So you definitely have those 359 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:25,240 Speaker 1: audiences where it's like you gotta loosen up and talk 360 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 1: about these things so we can get through them and 361 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:32,399 Speaker 1: get a solution going. I think, okay, so, yes, audiences 362 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:34,919 Speaker 1: can be crappy. I do agree, but I did like 363 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:37,520 Speaker 1: your response to well, maybe you know, obviously we take 364 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:40,199 Speaker 1: ownership because you want to be excellent, but sometimes it 365 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 1: could be it could be a mixture. Who knows. I don't. 366 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:44,800 Speaker 1: I don't know what that feels like. I couldn't I 367 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 1: could even begin to understand what you're dealing with because 368 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 1: you're literally, as an artist saying, let me just present 369 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:52,879 Speaker 1: my art to you. How do you feel? And laughter 370 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 1: is approval? I assume right, you want them to enjoy themselves, 371 00:19:57,200 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 1: and then if you don't get it, like it's hard 372 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 1: to walk away from that. But yet and still miss 373 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 1: Robinson has such a positive attitude. Where do we get 374 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:08,960 Speaker 1: that from? Or is that or is that like I'm 375 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 1: positive when I need to be, but I can let 376 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:14,160 Speaker 1: people have it because I'll say I'm really nice until 377 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 1: i'm not. You know, I have like that approach, but 378 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:20,639 Speaker 1: it's like you gotta get me there. Yeah. I think 379 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 1: it's two things. I definitely do have a I'm nice 380 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:24,719 Speaker 1: until I'm not until you like push me, and then 381 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:27,920 Speaker 1: I'm gonna like I'm gonna burn ship down. And I'm 382 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:31,359 Speaker 1: working on that therapy where it's like I tell my therapist, 383 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm a classic escalator, like I won't start 384 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 1: a fight, but someone starts something that I'm gonna like 385 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:45,359 Speaker 1: just destroy, like just burn everything, just burn all. I 386 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 1: understand your sister, Yeah, it has been brought to you. 387 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 1: Didn't come from me, but I found Joe go On. Yeah, 388 00:20:57,240 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 1: so there's that. But I think also I've been doing 389 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:03,400 Speaker 1: stand up for thirteen years, and certainly in the beginning, 390 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:06,960 Speaker 1: I was bombing more than I was having great shows. 391 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 1: And in the beginning, like it would I would feel horrible, 392 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 1: I feel so embarrassed. I'd be like, oh my God, 393 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 1: like need to like hurry up and leave the club. 394 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:18,359 Speaker 1: Like I really had to work through that and sort 395 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 1: of understand this is always going to be The process 396 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:26,120 Speaker 1: is figuring out getting the language right, figuring out the timing. 397 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:29,119 Speaker 1: You're never if you're gonna do stand up, you're never 398 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 1: going to just only have great shows. Like because he like, 399 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 1: now I'm starting from scratch with like a new hour. 400 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:41,399 Speaker 1: I just sort of like outlined it yesterday, like what 401 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:43,359 Speaker 1: I want the hour to be, and now I gotta 402 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:46,440 Speaker 1: start building material and writing, and I'm like, I'm sure 403 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 1: when I test stuff out something it's not gonna hit, 404 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 1: Like it's the same with Chris rob or wanted Sites 405 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:55,199 Speaker 1: and then trying stuff out, not everything's gonna hit. And 406 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 1: you have to, over time of doing stand up, build 407 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:03,360 Speaker 1: that sort of thick skin to understand that you are 408 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:08,359 Speaker 1: not so exceptional that failure does not touch you. And 409 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:10,640 Speaker 1: by the way, it also keeps you humble, It keeps 410 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 1: you real, It keeps you close to the streets. In 411 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:14,359 Speaker 1: my opinion, I got my ear to the streets. And 412 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:16,960 Speaker 1: while I love Oprah, Oprah has been rich for too long, 413 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 1: her ears no longer to the streets, and so not 414 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 1: I would I would love to have that problem. But 415 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 1: what I like about you is your range, You on 416 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:28,400 Speaker 1: your when you have your man crush. I'm just taking 417 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 1: off some enough Instagram. He could be black, white, Asian, green, purple, 418 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:35,200 Speaker 1: but he finds and I'm in agreement. And then you 419 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 1: are active, and by that I mean you're an activist, 420 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 1: like what is wrong? Like I see what's wrong in society. 421 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 1: I am black. Don't forget it. I know you love 422 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 1: me on both sides of the aisle, but let me 423 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:49,160 Speaker 1: keep this real. You gotta stop killing these young black 424 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:54,440 Speaker 1: boys and girls and then you're still loved. What a 425 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 1: beautiful way to live when people can see you for 426 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:01,320 Speaker 1: who you are in your voice and not associate your 427 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:04,440 Speaker 1: beliefs with your colors. And while we are I'm sure 428 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:08,480 Speaker 1: that happens. But how are you able to have so 429 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 1: much range? Where does that come from in terms of 430 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:13,200 Speaker 1: what you do, how you speak, and how you move 431 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:17,240 Speaker 1: and still appearing to be loved by all. That's a 432 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 1: great question. I mean I think I definitely do. You 433 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 1: have some people who don't necessarily want me to speak 434 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:27,639 Speaker 1: out about issues, and they sort of they like the 435 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:31,480 Speaker 1: thirsty Thursdays where we just keep it lighting cute. And 436 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 1: you know, my books and twot Up Queens were were 437 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:36,359 Speaker 1: just like having fun and he he he, and that's 438 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 1: it um. So I think for me And also I 439 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:42,680 Speaker 1: don't like to call myself an activist, like I don't 440 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:45,119 Speaker 1: think I I here's my big thing. I think, what 441 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 1: do you call yourselful? I call myself a person who 442 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 1: tries to be informed and is aware. But I'm not doing, 443 00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:59,639 Speaker 1: you know, the work of like the real activists who 444 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 1: are in the trenches day in and day out. Like 445 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:04,960 Speaker 1: I feel like a lot of people like to call 446 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:07,720 Speaker 1: themselves an activist. I'm like, the work that you're doing, 447 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 1: it's just only benefit. It's just building your brand. That's 448 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:14,600 Speaker 1: not activism, that's just you, you know what I mean? 449 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:16,480 Speaker 1: Where it's like I'm an activist and it's just like 450 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 1: they're getting more and more things, and I'm like, what 451 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:22,240 Speaker 1: who are you helping? Wait a second, Wait a second. 452 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:24,679 Speaker 1: You're schooling me on something that is probably real and 453 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:27,960 Speaker 1: true because these people are doing it for like fame. 454 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 1: But I like, I legit, I legitimately know that if 455 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 1: I get ready to post something or say something, I'm 456 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 1: gonna get more heat than praise and it's not for 457 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 1: my brand. So I feel as if and I wouldn't 458 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:40,399 Speaker 1: call myself an activist, but there's a word for people 459 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:43,160 Speaker 1: like you and I who purposely use our platforms when 460 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:45,639 Speaker 1: needed to express what's not right. We don't have to 461 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:47,240 Speaker 1: lend a voice to it. We can go on is 462 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 1: if it doesn't matter. And I don't know what if 463 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 1: you need a title for that, but it takes an 464 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 1: assert an incredible amount of courage to know that people, 465 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:58,639 Speaker 1: even on your team are saying, well, thebes you know 466 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 1: I made that up right now. I don't know, but 467 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:04,679 Speaker 1: I'm just saying I have that on my team, my agents. 468 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:07,120 Speaker 1: One of my agents may roll their eyes if they 469 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 1: see one of my posts, but guess where here it comes? 470 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 1: Press send because it matters more to me to be 471 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 1: on the right side of history and speaking out. Maybe 472 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 1: not an activist, but you have that, but still have 473 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 1: a range that I think is admirable. Thank you. Yeah, 474 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 1: I mean, I think all my work sort of stems 475 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:31,680 Speaker 1: from I just want to do what's right, and I 476 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:35,720 Speaker 1: just want to do I think you know, both of 477 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,760 Speaker 1: us is black, when we experience, of course discrimination, not 478 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 1: getting jobs, like being treated differently because we're women, because 479 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:45,919 Speaker 1: we're people of color, and so I think you know, 480 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 1: whether it's to the queens or my imprint or my 481 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:52,159 Speaker 1: production company. I always want to whatever I create, I 482 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:55,480 Speaker 1: want to have a platform that invites other people in. 483 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 1: And it's like I don't need to speak for everyone. 484 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:00,919 Speaker 1: I want to pass the mic. I want to have 485 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 1: other people share their experiences and their stories. And I 486 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:08,439 Speaker 1: think for me, there's a lot of as much as 487 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:11,200 Speaker 1: I love working in Hollywood, there's a lot of smoke 488 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 1: and mirrors, it's a lot of it's like high school. 489 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:16,920 Speaker 1: There's a lot of just hypocrisy that's happening where people 490 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:19,159 Speaker 1: will be like they want to stand up against this 491 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 1: thing in private, but in public they are the first 492 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:25,640 Speaker 1: one who has their thirsty ass online to align themselves 493 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:28,960 Speaker 1: with someone who's not looking out for us, you know 494 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:33,520 Speaker 1: what I mean. And so I know everyone is contradictory 495 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:35,960 Speaker 1: in their own ways, but I try to check myself 496 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:40,440 Speaker 1: as much as I can and really be like, Okay, 497 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:43,360 Speaker 1: I can't say I believe X, y Z and then 498 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:46,120 Speaker 1: go do this thing. So am I going to act 499 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:47,960 Speaker 1: on how I believe? Or I'm gonna act on what 500 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:51,160 Speaker 1: I think is going to make me cool or get 501 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 1: the likes. It's a choice every day. It's a choice. 502 00:26:55,680 --> 00:27:03,240 Speaker 1: Why because I think the way that social media is built, 503 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:07,639 Speaker 1: and the way that society is built to build a 504 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:11,719 Speaker 1: lot on momentum and a lot on getting addicted to 505 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:16,800 Speaker 1: what like any sort of kind of um reaction. So 506 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 1: like with you know, you look at like an influencer, 507 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,040 Speaker 1: it's like because they get the reaction, so they post 508 00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:24,200 Speaker 1: more where they get more reactions, so they keep going 509 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,480 Speaker 1: and going and going. It becomes like a cycle, right, 510 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 1: And so I think it's very easy to get caught 511 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:31,679 Speaker 1: up in cycles. It's very easy to get caught up 512 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:33,600 Speaker 1: in the likes. It's very easy to be like, Okay, 513 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,240 Speaker 1: I'm only gonna post things on social media that are 514 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 1: trending based on these hashtags. Are I'm only going to 515 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 1: post things where it's certain kind of music that's popping 516 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 1: right now, as opposed to being like, I want to 517 00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:50,399 Speaker 1: post things that are specific to me, And yes, i 518 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:53,920 Speaker 1: will get a smaller audience because of it, but I'm 519 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:57,520 Speaker 1: also not beholden to them or the thing, because I 520 00:27:57,560 --> 00:27:59,640 Speaker 1: think what happens is a lot of people are like, well, 521 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:03,000 Speaker 1: I have all these followers, I have all these likes, 522 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:06,800 Speaker 1: so I can only say or do these three things 523 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:08,719 Speaker 1: because I don't want to make them mad. And it's like, 524 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:12,480 Speaker 1: you can't live for strangers. You cannot spend your life 525 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 1: living for strangers. I can preach about this all day. Yeah, 526 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:18,679 Speaker 1: I have this conversation at least once a day with 527 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:22,520 Speaker 1: somebody for five too minutes because it's the truth, you 528 00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:25,480 Speaker 1: know what I mean. I get so frustrated even like 529 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:30,119 Speaker 1: I don't know why you do. I just take breaks. Okay, um, 530 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:32,119 Speaker 1: I have so many things to ask you, because again 531 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:35,080 Speaker 1: I'm fascinated. And then what I hear from you as 532 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:37,000 Speaker 1: saying that you just try to be your authentic self. 533 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 1: And at the end of the day, I tell my mentees, 534 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:43,240 Speaker 1: authenticity I hope, and I'm not, you know, a jaded 535 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 1: Hollywood person, but I believe authenticity wins the day all 536 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:50,760 Speaker 1: the time. At the end of the day, I believe that. 537 00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:55,760 Speaker 1: I want to believe that. Um. So, that's what you are. 538 00:28:56,840 --> 00:29:00,200 Speaker 1: That's why you have range, That's why people are are 539 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:03,560 Speaker 1: like drawn to you. You know what I'm saying, because 540 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 1: you feel like this is a real conversation or this 541 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 1: is a real person. Side note, listener, Okay, when I 542 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:12,360 Speaker 1: bought my first house, I only have one I have 543 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 1: these beautiful flowers. I had no furniture and some flowers 544 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:20,440 Speaker 1: waiting for me from who Phoebe literally on my podcast, 545 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 1: my other podcast, The Brown Pread, and she we just 546 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:25,600 Speaker 1: connected and she sent me flow. She's like, I know, 547 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:27,400 Speaker 1: you know, it's a special moment. I just bought a house. 548 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:31,560 Speaker 1: I was like, two duck tears, thank you. It was 549 00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:34,800 Speaker 1: people don't do that. People don't. We're so busy, we 550 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:36,920 Speaker 1: have so much going on. We don't mean to be thoughtful. 551 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:42,240 Speaker 1: Are we thoughtful? I love it? Um, And then I think, 552 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:46,200 Speaker 1: I see why you're so successful, So I don't want 553 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 1: to see in. So we're gonna take a break, pay 554 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:50,280 Speaker 1: some bills because that's what we gotta do. We're gonna 555 00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:52,600 Speaker 1: come back. That will be more laughing, there will be 556 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:57,280 Speaker 1: more thoughtful. Um, insight, Uh, there will be fun. Phoebe 557 00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 1: Robinson on the other side of the break, and they care. 558 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:02,720 Speaker 1: Every Chappie is to be a champion. A Chappi and 559 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:05,320 Speaker 1: they carry Chappi and they care with Chappian a Chappi 560 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:08,600 Speaker 1: and they carry Chappi and they carry Chappi Sports and 561 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:13,800 Speaker 1: then the tame aken naked work. Every Chappi and they 562 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:16,560 Speaker 1: carry Chappi is to be a champion, A champion. They 563 00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:20,000 Speaker 1: carry Chappi and they Chappi and they care with Chappi, 564 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:22,440 Speaker 1: and they care with Chappies and sports and then the 565 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:25,800 Speaker 1: tame Aken Naked work. I just made several million dollars 566 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:27,800 Speaker 1: on those commercials. So thank you guys for hanging in there. 567 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:30,680 Speaker 1: I'm buying everybody a brand new house in a car. Now, 568 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:35,240 Speaker 1: let's listen to Phoebe Robinson. I want to get into 569 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:37,360 Speaker 1: some of the things, the many things, like where do 570 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 1: we begin. You talked about your imprint. Why is it 571 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:41,480 Speaker 1: a called I know why? I feel like I know why. 572 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:47,600 Speaker 1: Tiny reparations tell me about that? Yeah, I mean Jessica 573 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:50,479 Speaker 1: and I when we're doing to the queens were always 574 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:53,840 Speaker 1: joked that we're too ignorant to get actual reparations, like 575 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:56,120 Speaker 1: that should be safe for like the activists and the 576 00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:59,720 Speaker 1: black people who are out here talking crazy. Uh, but 577 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:03,240 Speaker 1: like the get those little tiny moments where like you know, 578 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 1: something good happens in your life, those tiny reparations, like 579 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:08,560 Speaker 1: we could get those, Like so like if a seat 580 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:11,080 Speaker 1: opens up at a restaurant, we'll take that tiny reparation. 581 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:14,160 Speaker 1: That's cool for us. And so I thought when I 582 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:17,600 Speaker 1: was launching this this imprint, and I kept thinking about 583 00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:20,200 Speaker 1: when I was shopping around my first book and how 584 00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:24,560 Speaker 1: nobody wanted to publish it, and I'm being told that, 585 00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:29,120 Speaker 1: you know, black female authors aren't relatable or nobody wants 586 00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:32,160 Speaker 1: to read them. And I was like, well, I want 587 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:34,520 Speaker 1: this imprint to be my way of giving back, to 588 00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 1: be my sort of way of helping others. And so 589 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:41,920 Speaker 1: we have um eleven books on the slate, including mine, 590 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 1: and all the ten authors on the slate are debut authors, 591 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:49,240 Speaker 1: which is so exciting, and I feel like, I know 592 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:51,160 Speaker 1: that it's still early stage from the imprint, but I 593 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:53,520 Speaker 1: feel like this is exactly what it's supposed to be 594 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:56,840 Speaker 1: supposed to be about, helping these new writers get their 595 00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,840 Speaker 1: work and their voices out there, and then they flourished 596 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:03,160 Speaker 1: and I could just be a proud mama, Yeah yes, 597 00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:06,720 Speaker 1: and give them the voices that you said that needs 598 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:08,320 Speaker 1: to be heard. You want to give other people the voice. 599 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:11,080 Speaker 1: That's what you do. You're working. That's amazing, by the way. 600 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:14,720 Speaker 1: Tiny reparation today for me, I have been shopping because 601 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:16,920 Speaker 1: I'm going to this dinner on Friday, and I could 602 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:19,520 Speaker 1: not find these pants and my style has dropped them off. 603 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:23,920 Speaker 1: That might be a fancy reparation, but it's still tiny. Yes, 604 00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:29,120 Speaker 1: it counts. It counts a fancy tiny reparation for the 605 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:33,560 Speaker 1: Little Black Girl with two dollars. Um. Okay. So then 606 00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:37,560 Speaker 1: you've been talking about it, so October fourteenth, right around 607 00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:40,920 Speaker 1: the corner, and as you know, we're releasing it around 608 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:43,800 Speaker 1: that time, this podcast around that time, talk to me 609 00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:51,200 Speaker 1: about this stand up special? Like, amazing, right, I'm so excited. 610 00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:56,480 Speaker 1: I'm so excited. It's called sorry Harriet tupman um and uh, 611 00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:59,920 Speaker 1: which is just like I'm apologizing for being as ignorant 612 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:03,680 Speaker 1: as I am. Um, but I'm really excited and it's 613 00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:07,960 Speaker 1: so much fun. And we shot at the Brooklyn Botanic 614 00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:11,600 Speaker 1: Garden um in the Palm House, so it has this 615 00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:16,520 Speaker 1: really beautiful sort of floral representation behind me and secondside 616 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:21,440 Speaker 1: a domed building and I'm like pinching myself. I was like, 617 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:23,760 Speaker 1: this was the dream that I have, and I started 618 00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:26,200 Speaker 1: stand up thirteen years ago, so I wanted to have 619 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:29,720 Speaker 1: my own solo stand up special on HBO, and it's 620 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:35,000 Speaker 1: happening HBO specifically. You wanted HBO specifically, that was it. 621 00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:37,720 Speaker 1: It was like, yeah, because you were watched like you know, 622 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:43,560 Speaker 1: Bill Berg, Chris Rock, Wanda Sikes, Margaret Show, like they 623 00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:46,680 Speaker 1: all had HBO specials for so for to me, I 624 00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:49,160 Speaker 1: was like, that is like the thing you want, the 625 00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:52,040 Speaker 1: HBO special, even if it's just one time. You wanted 626 00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:55,040 Speaker 1: that one time. Okay, correct me if I'm wrong, premiering 627 00:33:55,080 --> 00:34:00,400 Speaker 1: October four, HBO Max correct m Okay. So with that 628 00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:03,400 Speaker 1: being said, you also have a book uh that came 629 00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:06,800 Speaker 1: out which immediately Black people were like, I understand, Um, 630 00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:12,840 Speaker 1: please don't sit on my bed. Uh in your outside clothes, 631 00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:20,040 Speaker 1: Uh September tell me about that. I'm so excited. Um. Yeah. 632 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:23,839 Speaker 1: The idea for this book came about during covid um. 633 00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:27,759 Speaker 1: You know, the one thing that was sort of the 634 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:31,640 Speaker 1: constant for me with covid um while I was quarantining 635 00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:34,359 Speaker 1: was reading. Like I would just wake up every day. 636 00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:36,560 Speaker 1: I sometimes take up extra early in the morning just 637 00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:38,279 Speaker 1: so I could read for like an hour or two 638 00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:42,680 Speaker 1: and just sort of like escape and pretend as though 639 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:48,160 Speaker 1: I'm not living in a pandemic um. And throughout this 640 00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:50,160 Speaker 1: time I was just sort of you know, there was 641 00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:55,560 Speaker 1: a George Floyd, George Floyd be murdered, um, and there 642 00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:58,160 Speaker 1: was just a lot of performative ally ship sort of 643 00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:01,879 Speaker 1: happening all over social media. Uh. And I was sort 644 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:04,680 Speaker 1: of like, work wise, I was kind of having a 645 00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:08,280 Speaker 1: pivot as a boss, and you know, work was slowing 646 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:10,800 Speaker 1: down or things were being rearranged. There was just a 647 00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:14,080 Speaker 1: lot that I was thinking about during this time, and 648 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:17,040 Speaker 1: you know, I was like, oh, this could be an 649 00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:22,000 Speaker 1: interesting essay collection. Um. And so I texted my my 650 00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:24,160 Speaker 1: literary agent, Robber, and I was like, Hey, I have 651 00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:28,120 Speaker 1: an idea for an essay collection. I know this was 652 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:30,879 Speaker 1: kind of silly because there's so much happening in the world, 653 00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:33,480 Speaker 1: so this is just a book, Like who cares? And 654 00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:35,440 Speaker 1: he was like, this is great, Like, right, write the 655 00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:37,400 Speaker 1: repose and let's see if we can get this old. 656 00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:41,319 Speaker 1: And we have been talking about publisher pre Covid about 657 00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:44,080 Speaker 1: doing an imprint, and then when the Covid happened, I 658 00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:47,680 Speaker 1: just was like, oh, no one cares about that anymore. Um. 659 00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:49,680 Speaker 1: And so that's how it came to be. And I 660 00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:52,880 Speaker 1: had so much fun writing it. And I got to 661 00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:55,600 Speaker 1: write about my parents, which is like the essay that's 662 00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:58,320 Speaker 1: um inspired by the title of the book and just 663 00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:02,640 Speaker 1: you know, sort of their lovable quirks um and about 664 00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:06,520 Speaker 1: cleanliness and other things. UM. And so I feel like 665 00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:11,080 Speaker 1: it's a really nice testament to them. It's a nice 666 00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:14,440 Speaker 1: you know, I have a nice moment write about quarantining 667 00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:17,839 Speaker 1: with my boyfriend and how we got through that together. Um. 668 00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:21,080 Speaker 1: And I'm really proud of this book. I think it's funny. 669 00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:24,920 Speaker 1: I think I'm being really honest and vulnerable, especially the 670 00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:28,480 Speaker 1: essay about um our decision to be child free and 671 00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:31,520 Speaker 1: not have kids. Um and not be like, let me 672 00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:33,759 Speaker 1: like diffuse this with the joke. It's like, no, let 673 00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:36,360 Speaker 1: me talk about the process. Because every woman, whether or 674 00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:39,680 Speaker 1: not you want to have kids, you really have to 675 00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:43,440 Speaker 1: take stock of your life when you make this decision. Um. 676 00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:45,719 Speaker 1: And I wanted to be honest about that instead of 677 00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:48,040 Speaker 1: being jokey. So I think I just sort of like 678 00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:50,480 Speaker 1: have the maturity to be like I could write about 679 00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:53,200 Speaker 1: this and it's okay if I'm not making jokes for 680 00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:56,640 Speaker 1: a few pages, because there are other women who are 681 00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:58,840 Speaker 1: on the fence about whether or not they want to 682 00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:00,680 Speaker 1: have kids, and they us want to be able to 683 00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:04,239 Speaker 1: read something that is not making a judgment either way. 684 00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:06,400 Speaker 1: It's like, whatever is the best thing for you. And 685 00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:10,000 Speaker 1: so I think having this time and COVID sort of 686 00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:12,480 Speaker 1: think about these things, I could really talk about or 687 00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:14,360 Speaker 1: right about them in depth in a way that I 688 00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:17,959 Speaker 1: think honors the subject matter. Well, that is a word 689 00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:21,719 Speaker 1: you You took me to therapy because I too, am 690 00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:23,560 Speaker 1: on the fence. I'm not on the fence about having 691 00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:26,520 Speaker 1: a child, but I've never been really honest with myself 692 00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:29,080 Speaker 1: about just sitting down and saying, take stock of what 693 00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:30,840 Speaker 1: you're gonna do, Like I want a child. It's like, 694 00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:33,000 Speaker 1: how do I want it? Do I want to use 695 00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:34,600 Speaker 1: my save DEGs or do I want to say roget 696 00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:36,080 Speaker 1: you know? And I'm like, how long am I going 697 00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:37,480 Speaker 1: to give myself to the end of the year to 698 00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:40,400 Speaker 1: make this decision? Year three, year, four, year five? Right? 699 00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:43,640 Speaker 1: So I appreciate you for being so candid about that. 700 00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:46,520 Speaker 1: I am excited to read this because I think you're 701 00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:48,759 Speaker 1: going to do a lot of you know, good, as 702 00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:51,680 Speaker 1: you always do. But it's always nice to be vulnerable 703 00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:54,520 Speaker 1: because it's strong instead of people viewing it as weak. 704 00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:56,440 Speaker 1: You're like, God, I'm glad somebody said it, you know 705 00:37:56,440 --> 00:38:00,399 Speaker 1: what I mean. Or yeah, I'm glad with a joke 706 00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:01,840 Speaker 1: because I was about to do a joke because I 707 00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:05,239 Speaker 1: got it comfortable, But you're glad somebody else had it. 708 00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:07,920 Speaker 1: And so I'm glad that was you. You have so 709 00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:10,719 Speaker 1: much going on. Okay, oh, we didn't even talk about 710 00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:13,719 Speaker 1: your Comedy Central show, um, which I wanted to be 711 00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:16,600 Speaker 1: on so badly. But okay, maybe next time around me 712 00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:20,279 Speaker 1: and Jay. But talk to me about season one. Uh, 713 00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:22,960 Speaker 1: it's doing the most right to talk to me. I 714 00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:25,080 Speaker 1: watched the first episode, which I should have watched more, 715 00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:26,960 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna support season two, So forgive me. I 716 00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:28,600 Speaker 1: start get out of my head of deciding where and 717 00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:32,879 Speaker 1: I should have kids. Um, but season two I know, Um, 718 00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:35,840 Speaker 1: I guess on the on the precipice there, it's happening. 719 00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:38,719 Speaker 1: Can you talk to me about I hope. So we're in. 720 00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:41,360 Speaker 1: We're in. We're talking to Communy Central right now. So 721 00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:43,520 Speaker 1: I really hope that we can make it happen because 722 00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:45,960 Speaker 1: I had so much fun during the first season and 723 00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:48,480 Speaker 1: I really wanted you and Jamal on for season one. 724 00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:50,120 Speaker 1: I think it just came down to schedule and we 725 00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:53,880 Speaker 1: couldn't make all the words. Um yeah, but it was 726 00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:58,359 Speaker 1: like it was really fun to sort of I think 727 00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:02,640 Speaker 1: so much of what's out there and media a lot 728 00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:07,080 Speaker 1: of times is hot takes and trying to catch someone 729 00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:10,080 Speaker 1: saying the wrong thing, so then we can drag them aline. 730 00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:12,719 Speaker 1: And I was like, I really just wanted this to 731 00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:15,880 Speaker 1: be a fun show. I think especially celebrities are feeling 732 00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:18,040 Speaker 1: sort of that pressure of like I don't want to 733 00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:20,680 Speaker 1: say anything because I don't want to get cussed out, 734 00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:24,239 Speaker 1: and so you know what I mean, Like it's it's 735 00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:26,360 Speaker 1: gotta be scary if you like, if I have like 736 00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:29,480 Speaker 1: ten million followers, I see the wrong thing and goes viral, 737 00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:31,480 Speaker 1: that's gonna sunk up my ship for like months. You 738 00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:33,400 Speaker 1: see what happened to the Rock, right, that was a 739 00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:35,960 Speaker 1: good example. Do you remember what happened to him? Like 740 00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:38,080 Speaker 1: he spoke up on George Floyd and he was getting 741 00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:41,480 Speaker 1: so much hate for however long. And I think you're right, 742 00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:44,200 Speaker 1: it's tough because you're like, I just want to do 743 00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:49,080 Speaker 1: the right thing, dog, Okay, so tell me. So with 744 00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:51,239 Speaker 1: this show, I just was like, I want people to 745 00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:56,040 Speaker 1: walk away feeling happy, joyful, uplifted, And you know, I 746 00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:59,000 Speaker 1: am terrified as so many things. So I thought it 747 00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:00,839 Speaker 1: would be fun for people to sort of laugh at 748 00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:03,680 Speaker 1: me not being great at stuff, to sort of remind 749 00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:05,640 Speaker 1: all of us that, like, you don't have to be 750 00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:07,560 Speaker 1: great at anything if you just want to do something, 751 00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:09,080 Speaker 1: You want to try it out, then just do it. 752 00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:13,360 Speaker 1: And I think there's so much paralysis that goes on 753 00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:15,719 Speaker 1: because everyone feels like they have to be the best 754 00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:18,799 Speaker 1: at something we're trained to, Like if you don't, if 755 00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:20,680 Speaker 1: you're not proficient at it, then why are you doing it? 756 00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:23,120 Speaker 1: And it's like, well, I just enjoy this thing, like 757 00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:26,520 Speaker 1: this is like not really the same thing, but like 758 00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:30,560 Speaker 1: I do yoga and I'm never particularly that great at it, 759 00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:34,080 Speaker 1: Like my thought, like, no matter how many times I practiced, 760 00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:37,480 Speaker 1: my thighs are so weak. I don't have the flexibility. 761 00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:40,080 Speaker 1: And I'm just like, I know I suck at this. 762 00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:42,120 Speaker 1: And if someone walked in my apartment, they would be like, 763 00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:46,480 Speaker 1: that is not yoga, but I used to and if 764 00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:56,320 Speaker 1: I trying, yeah, exactly, but it's like fucking I just 765 00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:58,640 Speaker 1: want to try some stuff out and bow my head 766 00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:01,840 Speaker 1: after forty minutes and be done. And so that's what 767 00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:03,960 Speaker 1: I really love about this show is that, look, I'm 768 00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:06,759 Speaker 1: gonna get on this horse. My goofy ask does not 769 00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:10,160 Speaker 1: know how to be around animals, and we're gonna survive 770 00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:12,319 Speaker 1: it and I'll come out the other side and done. 771 00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:14,320 Speaker 1: He's like black folks like yeah, we don't do that. 772 00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:17,080 Speaker 1: If I live in a state black, you go take 773 00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:21,439 Speaker 1: your horse somewhere else. Sir, I'm not. I'm not having 774 00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:23,560 Speaker 1: this this time with you. You want to play jack, 775 00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:26,040 Speaker 1: you want to do double dutch? Got you all day? 776 00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:31,759 Speaker 1: I really again back to especially like your guests. You 777 00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:34,359 Speaker 1: have really great guests. You just have like a way, 778 00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:37,320 Speaker 1: and I think it's relaxing and it's so funny and 779 00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:42,600 Speaker 1: so just pure. So Um, I think that I will 780 00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:44,359 Speaker 1: end with this. I didn't. I didn't get into because 781 00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:46,359 Speaker 1: I don't have time to get into your personal life 782 00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:49,319 Speaker 1: as I want to. But I do want to ask 783 00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:53,120 Speaker 1: you as a woman who does have has no problem 784 00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:56,120 Speaker 1: dating outside of her race. Um has yet to really 785 00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:59,799 Speaker 1: have a significant connection or significant date really with anyone 786 00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:01,640 Speaker 1: else out of my race. But but I do get 787 00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:03,839 Speaker 1: on the internet a lot like, oh, you're the only 788 00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:06,759 Speaker 1: day white guys, And I'm like, just because I can 789 00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:09,480 Speaker 1: put a subject in predicate together does not mean you 790 00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:12,400 Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like, there's just and I'm very 791 00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:15,040 Speaker 1: honest about who I find attractive. I'm like, Chris Evans 792 00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:17,360 Speaker 1: is fine. I've been trying to holler him forever. His 793 00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:22,120 Speaker 1: friends on me, Chris if you're listening. Everyone knows, um, 794 00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:24,960 Speaker 1: breggle with that girl. Breggle with that girl you like 795 00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:30,560 Speaker 1: because she ain't she it. Uh. Once you go black, 796 00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:37,800 Speaker 1: you never go back. I'm silly, But talk to me 797 00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:42,560 Speaker 1: about the pressures of a black woman who was extremely successful, 798 00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:45,200 Speaker 1: who was aware of what's going on in the community, 799 00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:48,200 Speaker 1: dating someone who's outside of their race. While you it 800 00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:50,840 Speaker 1: doesn't matter to you and him, it sometimes matters to 801 00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:52,560 Speaker 1: the world, and they like to share it with you. 802 00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:57,040 Speaker 1: How are you handling that? How do you? I mean, 803 00:42:57,320 --> 00:43:00,399 Speaker 1: I think I just have to I just to block 804 00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:02,880 Speaker 1: it out. I know maybe that's not the most mature 805 00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:05,680 Speaker 1: thing to do, but I'm just like, it is so 806 00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:09,560 Speaker 1: hard to find someone who wants to put up with 807 00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:12,160 Speaker 1: your ship, and you want to put up with their ship, 808 00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:16,120 Speaker 1: and if they're a good person, I think we just 809 00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:18,719 Speaker 1: all need to I just feel like there's so many 810 00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:22,000 Speaker 1: people who mind the business of other folks and they're 811 00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:26,480 Speaker 1: not minding their own lives. And so I'm like anyone 812 00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:29,440 Speaker 1: who certainly who does not know me, and it's just 813 00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:33,200 Speaker 1: on social media scenes that my boyfriend's a white British dude, 814 00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:36,800 Speaker 1: and they have all these opinions about it, and I'm like, 815 00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:40,839 Speaker 1: how can this affect you so deeply when you don't 816 00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:42,919 Speaker 1: know me and you don't know him. So I really 817 00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:46,400 Speaker 1: try and come from a place of you know, guess 818 00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:50,040 Speaker 1: of course I love black love. That is iconic and amazing, 819 00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:52,880 Speaker 1: But I'm also like, this is the person that I 820 00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:57,200 Speaker 1: found that I'm supposed to be with in this in 821 00:43:57,360 --> 00:44:00,880 Speaker 1: this lifetime. I don't know if I believe necessarily reincarnation, 822 00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:04,440 Speaker 1: but I do believe that like on this journey that 823 00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:06,759 Speaker 1: I'm on, like he is the right person for me 824 00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:12,160 Speaker 1: for this lifetime journey. Um, and I feel so lucky 825 00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:15,920 Speaker 1: to have that and to you know. So it just 826 00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:19,480 Speaker 1: I can't let that sort of negative energy kind of 827 00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:25,680 Speaker 1: affect that. And you know, I want people to feel good. 828 00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:30,120 Speaker 1: But I also have to live for me, you know. 829 00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:34,880 Speaker 1: So that's kind of that's how I balance it. I 830 00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:37,200 Speaker 1: just go, I have to make the best choice for 831 00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:40,319 Speaker 1: my life, and to me, he is the best choice 832 00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:45,319 Speaker 1: for my life. Oh again, I love love. I love 833 00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:48,359 Speaker 1: that girls standard for you man that were talking about 834 00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:52,440 Speaker 1: my man on the streets, I love it. You Like, 835 00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:55,239 Speaker 1: if you want to find me meet me later. They'll 836 00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:58,359 Speaker 1: be at my dm T now. But be honest, though, 837 00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:00,879 Speaker 1: what if he just it's like, I'm leaving my wife. 838 00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:04,520 Speaker 1: You want to leave your bullis be together? Who adri? 839 00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:10,840 Speaker 1: Who's going to say I'd be like, babe, bloods. I'm like, 840 00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:14,240 Speaker 1: can I just have a weekend, just a hall past weekend, 841 00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:18,200 Speaker 1: and then I'll come back to him. I mean no. 842 00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:20,799 Speaker 1: If he didn't allow that, he's selfish. I I need 843 00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:27,920 Speaker 1: you to rethink this lifetime commitment. That's fish. Let's listen. 844 00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:40,080 Speaker 1: If Ben is listening, Jennifer, ain't all that? Give me girl, 845 00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:45,520 Speaker 1: I have a weekend. Listen and we're making weekend list Ladies, 846 00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:52,360 Speaker 1: sen your weekend. Listen to Naked with your so so 847 00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:58,040 Speaker 1: I can decide I don't want to be with we're 848 00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:01,120 Speaker 1: having some fun. We're having some fun. Um, but I'm not, 849 00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:09,920 Speaker 1: she said, But I'm serious. If she tripping because I 850 00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:15,600 Speaker 1: am single. If she's tripping, listen four to four area code. Um. 851 00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:19,600 Speaker 1: All right, So before I let you go with my 852 00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:22,560 Speaker 1: silliness and get I'm gonna get beat upon the streets 853 00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:30,399 Speaker 1: talking about people. Wait, you got lord? What is wrong 854 00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:35,719 Speaker 1: with me? Before I let you go, as guys, you 855 00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:38,320 Speaker 1: have to watch the comedy special, like can you believe 856 00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:40,400 Speaker 1: like she's keeping with me? Making me think I'm funny 857 00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:42,480 Speaker 1: and I'm silly, and she's laughing and giving me all 858 00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:44,759 Speaker 1: material as well. You guys gotta check it out this 859 00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:48,680 Speaker 1: natural meantime in between time, talk to me about any 860 00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:51,440 Speaker 1: projects that you can share that you're working on that 861 00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:55,640 Speaker 1: are coming up. Oh god, I mean we have some 862 00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:59,879 Speaker 1: stuff and development with my production company a half hour. 863 00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:05,080 Speaker 1: We're comedy starring me um for free Form for developing 864 00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:07,800 Speaker 1: an animated series, which I'm really excited about because I 865 00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:11,120 Speaker 1: used to love cartoons growing up as a kid. Um. 866 00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:14,839 Speaker 1: But it's gonna be a little bit like Um, it's 867 00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:17,040 Speaker 1: not like a cartoon for kids. It's like a cartoon 868 00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:20,160 Speaker 1: for adults. I should clarify. Um. So we have some 869 00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:24,680 Speaker 1: stuff going on. We have five books on my imprint 870 00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:28,000 Speaker 1: coming out next year, which I'm really excited about. Um. 871 00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:32,840 Speaker 1: The first one that's coming out next year is on February. 872 00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:36,040 Speaker 1: One is called What the Fireflies New by Kai Harris 873 00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:40,959 Speaker 1: UM and it's coming to State coming up. Age story 874 00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:44,160 Speaker 1: about this little black girl. She's twelve, her name is 875 00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:49,000 Speaker 1: KB and Um. Her father passes away from drug usage, 876 00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:51,839 Speaker 1: so her mom sends her and her oldest sister, who's 877 00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:54,719 Speaker 1: like fifteen sixteen to go live with their grandfather for 878 00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:58,080 Speaker 1: the summer. And it's sort of that kind of it 879 00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:00,600 Speaker 1: deals with like you know, obviously grief, but also like 880 00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:03,680 Speaker 1: that sibling relationship. Like I went through that where I 881 00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:06,160 Speaker 1: was like a preteen and my brother was like a 882 00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:08,879 Speaker 1: full teenager in high school and how like you kind 883 00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:12,719 Speaker 1: of part for a little bit because they're getting their independence, 884 00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:15,040 Speaker 1: but you're still a little kid to them, so you 885 00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:18,080 Speaker 1: can't like roll with the the way that you want to. Um, 886 00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:22,400 Speaker 1: being like twelve thirteen sort of trying to like figure 887 00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:25,640 Speaker 1: out the world and figure out like, oh, adults aren't perfect. 888 00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:28,600 Speaker 1: Oh my parents aren't perfect, and what does that mean 889 00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:32,239 Speaker 1: to me? And how I understand people to be. So 890 00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:35,520 Speaker 1: I'm really I really love that book. It's phenomenal. It's 891 00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:38,160 Speaker 1: gonna make people like cry, I think, but it's it's 892 00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:41,239 Speaker 1: so so good. Um, And then I'll wrap up up. 893 00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:43,600 Speaker 1: My second book that's coming out next year is called 894 00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:46,960 Speaker 1: Portrait of a Thief by Grace Dee Lee. She wrote 895 00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:53,200 Speaker 1: this while she was in medical school. This woman is talented. Um. Yeah, 896 00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:54,759 Speaker 1: and when she told me that in the meeting, I 897 00:48:54,880 --> 00:49:00,160 Speaker 1: was like, I will never complain again about but like, wait, 898 00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:02,440 Speaker 1: listen to you. You're a mogul in the making, if 899 00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:05,160 Speaker 1: not many mogul, tiny reparations mogul. You're doing it all 900 00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:07,839 Speaker 1: like you are hitting all the areas and I love 901 00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:10,200 Speaker 1: it because if we can't get some of this white 902 00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:13,319 Speaker 1: guilt money, then I don't know who can't. Go ahead, great, Yes, 903 00:49:14,200 --> 00:49:21,840 Speaker 1: let's get it. Let's get these dolls. Um, Phoebe Robinson. 904 00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:24,319 Speaker 1: You're so amazing. Um. I can't wait to actually meet 905 00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:26,080 Speaker 1: you in person. I'm sure the day is coming sooner 906 00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:28,440 Speaker 1: rather than later. Thank you for being here on naked 907 00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:32,839 Speaker 1: as always. Time flies by when I talk to you. Yeah, 908 00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:35,719 Speaker 1: it was great. And when you meet Adrians is giving 909 00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:37,279 Speaker 1: my number. I'm gonna text it to you again because 910 00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:41,279 Speaker 1: you may have lost it in if he tries to 911 00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:43,279 Speaker 1: holler at you and you're done with your weekend, pass 912 00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:45,080 Speaker 1: me on for a weekend. Okay, So I'm gonna give 913 00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:48,600 Speaker 1: it to you. I'm gonna put it in this. That's 914 00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:59,640 Speaker 1: me texting you. Take care of your girls. It's cold. 915 00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:03,719 Speaker 1: Are you gotta got your rubbing feet? You gotta boo. 916 00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:06,160 Speaker 1: I'm out here just sitting with my dog in the bed, 917 00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:09,239 Speaker 1: So come on helping girl out. I'm gonna help you 918 00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:19,960 Speaker 1: out in conclusion. Not really, No, for real, I'm joking 919 00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:23,200 Speaker 1: with my fingers crossed. I've been kidding because it's disrespectful 920 00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:25,280 Speaker 1: to the wife. But I'm not kidding, but I'm kidding. 921 00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:30,080 Speaker 1: Get it, um Phoebe's funny. I enjoy her, I enjoy 922 00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:33,400 Speaker 1: her honesty. I enjoy everything that she represents, and she 923 00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:37,120 Speaker 1: genuinely when I get to meet people that I am 924 00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:39,759 Speaker 1: a fan of via social media, I've watched them and 925 00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:43,640 Speaker 1: they genuinely seem kind. And I wasn't kidding. I moved 926 00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:45,319 Speaker 1: into my very first house when we did our very 927 00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:49,960 Speaker 1: first interview but a year ago, and she sent me flowers. 928 00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:51,680 Speaker 1: I only interviewed her once, and she was really happy 929 00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:52,920 Speaker 1: for me, and then she asked me to be on 930 00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:54,880 Speaker 1: our show and we couldn't mean she has jump mel 931 00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:56,640 Speaker 1: and I to be on our show, and because of COVID, 932 00:50:56,719 --> 00:50:59,239 Speaker 1: we couldn't. You know, it'll be a new day, But 933 00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:02,239 Speaker 1: it was just it was just wonderful to realize that 934 00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:04,200 Speaker 1: there was someone who was in the world in which 935 00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:06,239 Speaker 1: you work in in some capacity and they have a 936 00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:09,600 Speaker 1: kind heart and there's always nothing but love and warmth, 937 00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:12,680 Speaker 1: and so I'm grateful for that. I'm grateful for her 938 00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:17,000 Speaker 1: ability to talk very candidly about her relationship, because I 939 00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:20,359 Speaker 1: do know as a successful black woman. If you've talked 940 00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:22,399 Speaker 1: about this on the podcast, if you date outside your race, 941 00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:24,600 Speaker 1: people want to label you and put you in a 942 00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:27,360 Speaker 1: box to make themselves feel comfortable. If you do not 943 00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:30,200 Speaker 1: take anything away from this podcast, it is it is 944 00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:33,840 Speaker 1: to remember that whenever someone wants to label you and 945 00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:38,880 Speaker 1: call you anything, it is a direct connection of their insecurities. 946 00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:41,839 Speaker 1: It's it's because they're insecure, or they're jealous, or they 947 00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:44,080 Speaker 1: can't talk in the way in which you or be 948 00:51:44,239 --> 00:51:46,320 Speaker 1: around you in a way in which they want to be, 949 00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:49,680 Speaker 1: so they have to attack you. I say that because 950 00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:53,080 Speaker 1: that's every day with social media. I'm all kind of 951 00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:55,960 Speaker 1: it's so funny I get. I hear I hear from 952 00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:58,919 Speaker 1: It's not funny, it's stupid. I hear from white people. 953 00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:01,080 Speaker 1: I'm racist. I hear from black men. I only date 954 00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:04,960 Speaker 1: white men. I can't win, So guess what. I don't try. 955 00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:07,880 Speaker 1: I just speak my truth. And the truth is Phoebe 956 00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:12,400 Speaker 1: is the shes is trying to stop cursing, and I 957 00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:15,320 Speaker 1: am encouraged and inspired. I gotta get my hustle on. 958 00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:17,600 Speaker 1: I don't think I'm doing enough. I gotta get a 959 00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:20,959 Speaker 1: I gotta get a team together to make this work. 960 00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:26,960 Speaker 1: All right? Was that funny? It was? See y'all next week.