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Speaker 7: Before we begin, please note this episode includes talk of suicide.

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Speaker 7: Please take care while listening. Last year I made a

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Speaker 7: podcast about a young woman named Sandy Beal. In February

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Speaker 7: nineteen seventy seven, when she was just eighteen years old,

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Speaker 7: she was found dead in her car from a gunshot wound,

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Speaker 7: her life cut tragically short. I've been reporting on the

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Speaker 7: deaths of women for a while now, and something I've

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Speaker 7: come to realize is when you investigate how or why

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Speaker 7: I learned about Sandy, she had been living under enormous

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Speaker 7: Sandy's family never bought the police's story that she took

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Speaker 7: her own life. Instead, they suspected her much older boyfriend,

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Speaker 7: As I looked into Sandy's death and life, I learned

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Speaker 7: Sandra Birchmore grew up in Massachusetts and joined the Stoughton

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Speaker 1: Sandra Birchmore was a young woman who grew up in

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Speaker 7: Sandra was just twenty three years old when she died.

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Speaker 7: As with Sandy Beal, Sandra Birchmore's friends were confused and

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Speaker 1: So in the days after her death, there were concern

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Speaker 7: So here's where Sandra Birchmore's case is different than Sandy Beial's.

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Speaker 1: One thing that was revealed in this investigation which I

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Speaker 1: to treat it. I think that anyone who was a

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