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Speaker 2: All right, break it down. If you ever have feelings

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Speaker 2: that you just won't Mayby and Cat gotcha covin locking,

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Speaker 2: no brother, the lady's folks, do you just follow an

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Speaker 2: to the chill stuff and the m but Swayne, sometimes

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Speaker 2: feel things.

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Speaker 1: This is feeling things with Amy and Kat.

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Speaker 3: Happy Tuesday. Welcome to feeling things. I'm Amy and I'm Cat.

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Speaker 3: And do you want to start with your feelings?

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Speaker 1: Well, let's start with yours, because I have I'd like

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Speaker 1: to elaborate on mine, and.

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Speaker 3: I'm definitely not elaborating on mine. Okay, then mine's confused.

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Speaker 3: I'm feeling very confused, and this is something that I

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Speaker 3: will likely elaborate on later, but it's just something it's

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Speaker 3: been lingering for days, this feeling of confusion. But I'm

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Speaker 3: also trying to sit with it and not rush to

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Speaker 3: make a decision. So if anybody else out there is

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Speaker 3: feeling confused about something and eager to get to the conclusion,

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Speaker 3: I invite you to take a beat, because That's what

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Speaker 3: I'm trying to do. Take a breath, and then not

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Speaker 3: try to rush to figure it out if there doesn't

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Speaker 3: need to be rushed. Now, in some situations, you might

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Speaker 3: need to come to a conclusion. In my particular one,

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Speaker 3: I don't need to. I would like to, but I

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Speaker 3: I'm just practicing patients and seeing where it goes, and

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Speaker 3: then eventually, once I know where the confusion is going

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Speaker 3: to land, I can share more. But I'm not ready

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Speaker 1: Okay, so what are you waiting?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's my feeling, Okay, confused, confused?

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm feeling both disappointed and disgusted, okay with me

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Speaker 3: Who's not disappointed and disgusted? That's pretty and confused. I'm

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Speaker 3: just I mean a lot of it stayside, a lot

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Speaker 3: of it. Yeah. Kat and I were like off Mike

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Speaker 3: before we started recording, we were like, should we even

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Speaker 3: Because like something just feels scary and off, like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Well what I know, But I don't like putting that into.

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Speaker 3: The I know I don't want to either, but that's

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Speaker 3: just I'm just giving people.

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Speaker 1: Sat money everybody.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, definitely be responsible and save your money. Which

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Speaker 3: I'm like, why why'd I set up that auto draft?

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Speaker 1: Something, could be enjoying that money. Now.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but I do want to be responsible, but again,

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Speaker 1: Well, my feelings are actually a little bit more. I'm

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Speaker 1: not going to call them silly because they're real feelings,

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Speaker 1: but I think they're heavy.

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Speaker 3: Well, good, we need silliness, Okay, Like.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're scrolling and you need Love is Blind?

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Speaker 3: I need I guess maybe I do need Love is Blind.

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Speaker 3: Now correct me if I'm wrong. But Love is Blind.

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Speaker 1: She looks like a very healthy person, like if she

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Speaker 1: That's going to make me feel like I'm not worthy.

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Speaker 1: So I'm not trying with you. I'm not going to

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Speaker 3: My feelings would be heart I want to cry.

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Speaker 1: Like but for her though, I'm so while I'm so

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Speaker 3: What do you think he wanted to come off as

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Speaker 1: To honestly, yes, because his milk.

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Speaker 3: There are fifteen minutes of fame.

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Speaker 1: That's a really good point, because his behavior after this

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Speaker 1: I don't know why. But then he's going around telling

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Speaker 3: If like somebody's listening in the car, we say, hey, parents,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, thanks for bringing that in. So I think you

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well, I I'll say quickly. My other feeling

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Speaker 3: It's in love story you have. That's how it happened.

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Speaker 1: So all of this is true.

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Speaker 1: Correct. You never watched Real Housewives?

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Speaker 1: With she's going to be in this show, because wasn't she.

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Speaker 3: The risk there, and like did she want the lobotomy

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Speaker 3: But was she told like, hey, this could help you

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Speaker 1: Well. It says that it was the father's decision, fearing

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Speaker 1: The procedure was performed by doctor Walter Freeman and doctor

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Speaker 1: get divorced?

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00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:42,240
Speaker 3: I mean probably not. That would not help the family reputation.

439
00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:46,920
Speaker 1: You're right, And so then yeah, he hid her because yeah, so.

440
00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:49,600
Speaker 3: Okay, a little so love story.

441
00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:56,280
Speaker 1: They probably don't cover that in that well they haven't yet, but.

442
00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:01,360
Speaker 3: I will say, I'm just really enjoying it. I really am.

443
00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:06,120
Speaker 3: Like it's a nice even though it's about a political family,

444
00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:10,159
Speaker 3: it's a nice distraction from all the politically stuff happening

445
00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:12,360
Speaker 3: because it's about a lot at the moment, because yeah,

446
00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:14,919
Speaker 3: you're focusing on a love story and you really feel

447
00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:18,960
Speaker 3: for him and like this fish bowl that.

448
00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:21,560
Speaker 1: But you have lived in until the sad part yet.

449
00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:25,239
Speaker 3: Well yeah, but I know what's going to happen. At

450
00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:27,800
Speaker 3: least you won't be shocked, no, because that's how the

451
00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:30,800
Speaker 3: episode starts. If you don't know what we're talking about.

452
00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:33,560
Speaker 3: And maybe some people don't because the episode actually doesn't

453
00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:37,040
Speaker 3: give you the conclusion. You just see them doing the

454
00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:40,560
Speaker 3: activity okay, that they're going to go do that results

455
00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:44,919
Speaker 3: in a tragedy. Yeah, I mean tragedy. At first I

456
00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:49,399
Speaker 3: forgot it was that activity that I don't want to

457
00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:51,159
Speaker 3: give anything away in case someone wants to start it

458
00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:55,480
Speaker 3: and they haven't watched it. But the activity that they do, Okay.

459
00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:57,600
Speaker 1: I'm just going to say, if that spoils something, then

460
00:23:57,680 --> 00:23:59,320
Speaker 1: people's that's their fast.

461
00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:00,760
Speaker 3: Okay, spoil culture is a little like I'm being a

462
00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:03,439
Speaker 3: little too sensitive to it. Okay, so they're they're in

463
00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:06,199
Speaker 3: an airplane, but I thought he was the one that

464
00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:07,400
Speaker 3: died skiing.

465
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:09,120
Speaker 1: Oh who died skiing?

466
00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:12,000
Speaker 3: Well, I think one of the Kennedys. That's what I mean.

467
00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:13,320
Speaker 3: They just have like tragedy.

468
00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:15,920
Speaker 1: You know what I would say if a Kennedy were

469
00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:20,080
Speaker 1: to go after you romantically, like got to pump the brakes,

470
00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:23,040
Speaker 1: I don't want you to do that because you're putting yourself.

471
00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:25,639
Speaker 3: In the only I don't even know what can like,

472
00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:27,200
Speaker 3: how would a I don't trust.

473
00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:30,680
Speaker 1: Me any degree of separation. I think that if if

474
00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:33,199
Speaker 1: you were this person back then, I would want you

475
00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:36,080
Speaker 1: to be like, I can't do it.

476
00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:38,040
Speaker 3: It's not worth No, I guarantee you. And I was

477
00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:40,159
Speaker 3: her back then, and when your lives talking to me,

478
00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:43,320
Speaker 3: you would be like, Amy, this is so amazing. I

479
00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:44,280
Speaker 3: can't believe it.

480
00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:46,040
Speaker 1: But if we knew their family was cursed?

481
00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:49,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, well I don't think a family is. Do you

482
00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:54,040
Speaker 3: think a family literally can be cursed? And maybe yeah?

483
00:24:54,840 --> 00:25:00,199
Speaker 3: I do. Well, speaking of relationships, I came across something

484
00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:05,040
Speaker 3: doctor Brooks I believe, and he's a Harvard professor. He

485
00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:07,520
Speaker 3: shared four things that can fix any marriage. So then

486
00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:10,680
Speaker 3: I was like, shoot, could these four things have fixed

487
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:13,080
Speaker 3: my marriage? Yeah?

488
00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:14,640
Speaker 1: Too bad you didn't have them back then.

489
00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:15,520
Speaker 3: I know.

490
00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:17,040
Speaker 1: I can't wait to hear what these are.

491
00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:19,520
Speaker 3: And I don't know, And like you, being a therapist,

492
00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:22,479
Speaker 3: I'm curious your thoughts. You probably wouldn't phrase it like

493
00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:26,399
Speaker 3: these things will fix your marriage, but maybe they could

494
00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:31,120
Speaker 3: contribute to a better relationship.

495
00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:33,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, well let's see what they are, okay, because he's

496
00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:34,480
Speaker 1: promising a lot here.

497
00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:38,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, I came across this video and I thought maybe

498
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:40,720
Speaker 3: we could all benefit from knowing these things. If we're

499
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:45,800
Speaker 3: in a relationship, one one of four start having more

500
00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:48,879
Speaker 3: fun together, more fun, less grievance.

501
00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:51,720
Speaker 1: Well, shoot, Amy, you just should have had more fun

502
00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:52,440
Speaker 1: in your marriage.

503
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:56,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, so if you can do that, then it'll fix

504
00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:57,360
Speaker 3: your marriage.

505
00:25:57,760 --> 00:25:58,040
Speaker 1: Two.

506
00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:04,040
Speaker 3: Fuse your right hemispheres, so do things together like prayer

507
00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:11,320
Speaker 3: and meditation. Okay check, okay, okay, they're called right hemisphere activities.

508
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:12,520
Speaker 3: I'm sure you could google more.

509
00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:17,080
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we have this examples of our meditation and prayer.

510
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 3: Okay, make eye contact whenever you're talking, like if you

511
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:24,320
Speaker 3: were having a conversation with your significant other, look them

512
00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:27,840
Speaker 3: in the eyes. I also saw this other thing, completely unrelated,

513
00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:30,920
Speaker 3: that you should be going to bed, call it five

514
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:33,439
Speaker 3: minutes earlier with your partner and going to bed at

515
00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:35,760
Speaker 3: the same time, and then laying in bed for those

516
00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:38,720
Speaker 3: five minutes before you read or go to sleep or

517
00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:41,480
Speaker 3: whatever and just stare at each other.

518
00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:47,040
Speaker 1: I think I saw something like this, and if that

519
00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:49,840
Speaker 1: feels like something I'm probably not going to do. Oh well, they.

520
00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:54,360
Speaker 3: Said it could just stare your relationship, just stare at

521
00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:58,160
Speaker 3: each other. One time I did that at a yoga class,

522
00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:01,479
Speaker 3: not with my partner, but it was an activity that

523
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:05,239
Speaker 3: our yoga instructor had us do. We paired up and

524
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:07,919
Speaker 3: luckily I got paired with my friend Jackie because I

525
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:09,959
Speaker 3: wasn't with a stranger. Another time I had to do

526
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:12,920
Speaker 3: it and I had some guy, But for this specific example,

527
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:14,760
Speaker 3: I was like so thankful I was with my friend

528
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:18,280
Speaker 3: Jackie because I was having an emotional day and we

529
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:22,720
Speaker 3: had to sit crisscross apple sauce and look into each

530
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:25,919
Speaker 3: other eyes as the teacher was like reading something or

531
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:29,080
Speaker 3: doing something and we just stared and I got emotional.

532
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:33,800
Speaker 3: It evoked some sort of deep connection and emotional thing.

533
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:39,040
Speaker 1: I think I would be so uncomfortable during that, which

534
00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:39,880
Speaker 1: doesn't mean it's bad.

535
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:42,880
Speaker 3: I Also this made me think of another thing of

536
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,359
Speaker 3: a mutual person that we all know that y'all would

537
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:47,720
Speaker 3: not agree with what this person's saying.

538
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:51,120
Speaker 1: Oh, I know, I know you're talking about okes you're saying.

539
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:53,639
Speaker 3: So he's someone we don't necessarily trust these days. But

540
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:56,600
Speaker 3: he told me some like improv class that he took,

541
00:27:56,800 --> 00:28:03,000
Speaker 3: like they would have couples like sit and or people

542
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,280
Speaker 3: of the opposite sex like sit and just stare at

543
00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:07,600
Speaker 3: each other for a certain amount of time and it

544
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:09,160
Speaker 3: would lead to them making out.

545
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:15,560
Speaker 1: That's just his excuse for making out with the person

546
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:19,119
Speaker 1: that he was in an improv class with no it

547
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:21,240
Speaker 1: wasn't my fault. We just had to do this exercise

548
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:23,560
Speaker 1: and it always results in making out. Okay.

549
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:26,439
Speaker 3: So three wis make eye contact okay, and then four

550
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:30,679
Speaker 3: is ABT. Do you know what ABT stands for?

551
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:35,960
Speaker 1: Why just glance down and saw? Sorry? Okay, I spoiled it.

552
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:37,560
Speaker 3: Always be touching.

553
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:40,360
Speaker 1: I like that it's touching and not touching.

554
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:43,600
Speaker 3: Always be touching. Well, I'm sure it is touching. He's

555
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 3: a Harvard professor. But always be touching I ABT.

556
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 1: I'm down for that one. I'm a big physical touch person.

557
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 1: Can I share my thoughts on this list with you?

558
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 3: Is that?

559
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 1: Can I give my feedback? Now? Are is it over?

560
00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 3: Yeah?

561
00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 1: Okay?

562
00:28:57,680 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 3: Those are the four undone after ABT.

563
00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 1: I don't think these are necessarily bad things, but I

564
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:07,960
Speaker 1: think the list should be renamed like things that could

565
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 1: help a relationship be stronger.

566
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 3: Instead of things that will save yeah, or save or whatever.

567
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:16,520
Speaker 1: It's a little dramatic because that's if you're having serious

568
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 1: problems in a relationship. Those things aren't me touching you

569
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 1: is going to be like, oh, I want to stay

570
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 1: with you. Now if there's been like whether it's what if?

571
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:27,920
Speaker 3: Is that you do all four of these things like

572
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:28,720
Speaker 3: you make sure to do.

573
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:33,440
Speaker 1: They could help. But if the a relationship is not working,

574
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:36,240
Speaker 1: like if you're not compatible in some way, or there's

575
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 1: been betrayal trauma, that that's not going to fix that.

576
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 1: But they aren't going to hurt. I think they're healthy

577
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 1: things that you could try.

578
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker 3: And sometimes if you're in some like a grievance stage,

579
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:51,080
Speaker 3: like there are some grievances happening, it's hard to just

580
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 3: be like, you know what, let's just have more fun.

581
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:56,480
Speaker 1: Right, That's that one got me. I'm like, Okay, if

582
00:29:56,520 --> 00:30:00,160
Speaker 1: I'm really hurt or have been traumatized by something that's

583
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 1: happened in the relationship, I'm not going to be like,

584
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:06,680
Speaker 1: let's go on a vacation and go skydiving, which I

585
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 1: don't know what that came to my head, because that

586
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 1: would not be fun to me.

587
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 3: Wait, have you ever gone skydiving?

588
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:13,960
Speaker 1: No? Never will?

589
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 3: I mean I would recommend it once. I've done it

590
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 3: once and I'll never do it again. People die, I

591
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 3: mean rarely, rarely, no, but people do.

592
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:25,440
Speaker 1: I have a friend.

593
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:28,400
Speaker 3: People die driving and you drive over here.

594
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:31,040
Speaker 1: But I don't need to skydive. I need to drive

595
00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:38,200
Speaker 1: to get places. I think that I'm not adrenaline junkie.

596
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 1: I don't enjoy that, meaning I get very anxious. I

597
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 1: would be so worried about it that it would not

598
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:46,360
Speaker 1: be you know that I like to look forward to things, right,

599
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:50,400
Speaker 1: this would be the opportunity. So why would I risk

600
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:52,239
Speaker 1: my life for something I don't really want to do.

601
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:55,240
Speaker 1: It'd be one thing if it was like I really

602
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 1: want to do that. That sounds so exciting. But I

603
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 1: think more people die from skyd die. Then you realize

604
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 1: I think you're just not in the community.

605
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:06,719
Speaker 3: What. I guess you're right. I did it for my

606
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 3: thirtieth birthday.

607
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 1: If you would have surprised me and done that for

608
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 1: my thirtieth birthday, would never talk to you again.

609
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:15,960
Speaker 3: Really, I would. You don't have to go yeah, just

610
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:18,480
Speaker 3: be like no, I'm not doing it and pushed me out.

611
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:22,120
Speaker 1: No, I I you would know me well enough to

612
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 1: not do that, though.

613
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 3: So I have a little story time for you about

614
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 3: no but just adventurous thing that crossed my path this week.

615
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 3: Oh so you know I had you came over the

616
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 3: other day and I was on a zoom and I

617
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 3: came out. I was like, oh, sorry, it ran over.

618
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 3: It was like ten minutes late. Well, I was having

619
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:56,040
Speaker 3: a meeting with somebody. Guess where they lived? Did I

620
00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:57,960
Speaker 3: tell you where they lived? I think I told you

621
00:31:58,000 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 3: where they.

622
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:00,720
Speaker 1: Live, Okay, because it's not where I thought they lived.

623
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 3: Yes, because I also thought they lived in London, which

624
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:08,560
Speaker 3: I've been to London. I've never been to France. Well,

625
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 3: she lives in France, and I want to go to France,

626
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 3: And she's like, come to France and we can have

627
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 3: a meeting and then you can write your trip off. Yes,

628
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 3: And I'm like, I've been thinking about that every day

629
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 3: since the other day.

630
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 1: Where does she live? When?

631
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:31,760
Speaker 3: I don't know exactly?

632
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 1: He's not too big of a country.

633
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 3: No, I don't.

634
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just know you want to get to Paris.

635
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, when you go to Paris, I like to go

636
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 3: to the south of France. Like, but I mean once

637
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 3: you get over there, traveling is so easy, so I'm

638
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 3: sure I would jaunt across.

639
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 1: So do we need to challenge you to have a

640
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 1: business meeting in France?

641
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 3: Yes?

642
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 1: Okay, when do you want to do this?

643
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 3: Perhaps this summer?

644
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 1: We we you have been wanting and talking about going

645
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 1: here since I met you. Yes, So speaking now, should

646
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:04,720
Speaker 1: we spend all of.

647
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 3: Our money and go live it up, live it up,

648
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 3: maybe even live in France.

649
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, you might never come back.

650
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 3: I saw this other girl post this video of her experience.

651
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 3: She's like, hey, I'm just a normal I went through

652
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:22,600
Speaker 3: and like looked at her feet and she was just

653
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 3: really sweet, like you know, just normal girl, but building

654
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:30,920
Speaker 3: a platform about her experience living in France and then

655
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 3: also in America, and how her inflammation was drastically different

656
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:37,960
Speaker 3: like when she was here, like the way her stomach

657
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 3: extends is from being bloated and inflamed, and the breakouts,

658
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 3: the breakouts not even just on her face, on her back,

659
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 3: her chest. And then she went to France and did

660
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 3: she was working there or something and her skin cleared

661
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 3: up her She didn't change anything else about her lifestyle,

662
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 3: not her working out, not how she eats. I mean,

663
00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 3: obviously they have different food there and regular on food

664
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 3: and how it can be made, in ingredients that can

665
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 3: be put in there, but just environmentally, I guess what's

666
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 3: being inhaled h and then also consumed and.

667
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:13,239
Speaker 1: Like water, I guess too.

668
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 3: And she showed all these side by sides, and then

669
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:23,480
Speaker 3: when she came back home everything returned. Oh the breakouts returned,

670
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:27,440
Speaker 3: her bloat returned, and then so since then she's like

671
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:29,920
Speaker 3: made it her mission. Now she's sort of I think

672
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:31,839
Speaker 3: she maybe even like I don't know if she had

673
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:33,920
Speaker 3: to quit her job or just alter how she does

674
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:37,280
Speaker 3: her job. But she's gone back and forth to France

675
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 3: and she's doing this deep dive on everything she's consuming

676
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 3: and everything she did differently, and even bringing food back

677
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:46,239
Speaker 3: from France with her to America to see if she

678
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 3: eats that food here, because then other things are environmental,

679
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:54,719
Speaker 3: like what is she drinking America? I don't know that question.

680
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:56,279
Speaker 1: Seen too, Like she lives in a big city or

681
00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 1: did she live in like New York City might be

682
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:02,400
Speaker 1: different than the middle nowhere in Oklahoma, you know, I don't.

683
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:04,920
Speaker 3: Know some of those middle of nowhere places are dumping grounds,

684
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 3: that's true.

685
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:09,520
Speaker 1: Oh Aaron Brockovich, Oh my gosh, I saw her on

686
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 1: The Kardashians recently.

687
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:14,720
Speaker 3: The actual Aaron Brokovich. She was on the Kardashians.

688
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 1: I okay, mind you, I don't know anything about Aaron

689
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:21,320
Speaker 1: Brockovich other than Julia Roberts played her in a movie.

690
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:26,960
Speaker 1: Then she shows up on The Kardashians and Courtney who

691
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 1: she is an interesting character these days on that show.

692
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:33,879
Speaker 1: But she this was one good thing she was doing,

693
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:35,759
Speaker 1: and she was trying to help with some of the

694
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 1: waste dumping after the fires in their community. They're putting

695
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 1: like toxic waste in like landfill's where like they're all

696
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:48,759
Speaker 1: breathing it in, and she called in Aaron Brokovich to

697
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 1: talk about.

698
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 3: It with nice.

699
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 1: Yeah. So it also makes you wonder what motivated Aaron

700
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 1: Brokovitch to go on The Kardashians and get that little cameo.

701
00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:01,759
Speaker 3: Well, because now I think she's an expert and well, yeah,

702
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:04,839
Speaker 3: I think the environmental Yeah, but I.

703
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:08,160
Speaker 1: Think part of me is like, actually, I take this back,

704
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:10,359
Speaker 1: because if the Kardashians wanted to be on their show,

705
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:11,880
Speaker 1: I probably would just go.

706
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, They're like, hey, we're looking for a therapy Oh No.

707
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 1: I wouldn't do that. I would not do that. I

708
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:20,600
Speaker 1: would never go on any reality show as a therapist

709
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 1: or a therapist expert. One. I know myself, and I

710
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 1: would have so much anxiety about how people perceive me. Two,

711
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 1: I there is one therapy show that I think has

712
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 1: done a good job and has done well, and I've

713
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 1: actually learned a lot from couple's Therapy very good. Have

714
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:38,279
Speaker 1: you watched it?

715
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 3: No?

716
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 1: Oh, it's so good, and it's you're just all you're

717
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:45,240
Speaker 1: doing is watching therapy. That's it. And it's like that entertaining.

718
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 1: But I'm a therapist, so maybe not everybody thinks it's entertaining,

719
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 1: but I think a lot of therapists that go on

720
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:57,880
Speaker 1: reality shows. To me, it's like, this is this is

721
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:00,360
Speaker 1: it shouldn't be this way. We shouldn't be over to

722
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:02,279
Speaker 1: watch you do.

723
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:04,280
Speaker 3: This unless it's couple therapy.

724
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:09,959
Speaker 1: I don't know what they're like, the whatever it's called,

725
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:15,279
Speaker 1: the what's the word I'm looking the contract, contract, whatever.

726
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:18,359
Speaker 3: It is that allow like disclosure. Yeah.

727
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 1: My one thing is like, as a therapist, how do

728
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 1: you rationalize putting people's very confidential personal lives on display

729
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:29,400
Speaker 1: for entertainment? So I do even couple syrapium like this

730
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 1: feels a little like intrusive, but at least is the

731
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 1: way it's done.

732
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:39,440
Speaker 3: I feel like, is I can okay, wait, this is

733
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:41,719
Speaker 3: not related at all, but made me think of something

734
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:43,279
Speaker 3: You've been invited to you but I don't know if

735
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:45,759
Speaker 3: you would say it yet. You know that email you go,

736
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:47,759
Speaker 3: I didn't do it, You didn't do it.

737
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:51,279
Speaker 1: Well, it's partly my fault. You don't just say what

738
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:51,800
Speaker 1: it's about.

739
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:53,720
Speaker 3: But do you want to say the publication that reached

740
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:54,760
Speaker 3: out to you or the news.

741
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 1: Well, it was a journalist that was writing an article

742
00:37:57,239 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 1: for the New York Times. Okay, so the New York

743
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 1: Times didn't reach out to me, but.

744
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 3: A journalists that was writing, yeah for the New York

745
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 3: Times reached out to you to contribute, yeah, which I

746
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 3: think is really cool.

747
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:11,760
Speaker 1: But I had so we scheduled a time. I think

748
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 1: she forgot her something I don't know, and so she

749
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:15,239
Speaker 1: reached back out to me and she was like, oh

750
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 1: my gosh, I totally like spaced, can we do this?

751
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 1: And she had me another time and I didn't answer

752
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 1: for like two weeks, which I think the time has passed.

753
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:27,840
Speaker 1: Probably found somebody else because I got so much anxiety

754
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 1: about that interview. I was like, I don't know if

755
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 1: it's worth it. And I this was also at a

756
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:33,959
Speaker 1: time in my life where I did not need any

757
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 1: extra stress. So that is kind of what I was

758
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 1: saying too earlier about I. Because you don't have you

759
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 1: do not have control over how they take your words

760
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 1: and use them, just like you wouldn't have control over

761
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 1: how they edit you on a show like that and

762
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:51,520
Speaker 1: what pieces they pull out.

763
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:53,799
Speaker 3: And so it's not worth it for me.

764
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 1: It wouldn't be. But also I say that the Kardashians

765
00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:58,400
Speaker 1: have never asked me to be on the show, so

766
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 1: I can't really answer the question. But I don't think

767
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:03,759
Speaker 1: I would do it. But I might be eating my

768
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 1: words if five years from now I'm a main character.

769
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 1: M M, they're Kardashians and Catherine.

770
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:14,759
Speaker 3: Or somehow you're on I hope you're not on Love

771
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:17,840
Speaker 3: as Find because that, yeah, you're you have found the

772
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:19,760
Speaker 3: love of your life.

773
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 1: Well yeah, if you went on to be like a

774
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:24,320
Speaker 1: I don't know if they need like a mental health

775
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 1: expert on the show, which they should have therapists on site.

776
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:30,239
Speaker 3: But they do. Do you think maybe they do, like

777
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:32,839
Speaker 3: off camera because.

778
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 1: Just advocates for them, yes, to be supportive.

779
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 3: Or do these shows they want them to act as

780
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:39,960
Speaker 3: unhinged as possible.

781
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 1: Yeah? I think they do, because.

782
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 3: I mean that's what's gonna get, yeah, the most attention. Like,

783
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:49,840
Speaker 3: what's that other show? You love? Love Island?

784
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say I love it?

785
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:52,479
Speaker 3: What?

786
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:55,319
Speaker 1: Okay, well you like it?

787
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 3: But I mean they're there. It's crazy, really unhinged, and

788
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:00,759
Speaker 3: that I think the number one and show that a lot.

789
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:02,239
Speaker 3: I tried to give it a go. And I don't

790
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 3: know what it is about these love shows except for

791
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 3: Love Story, I can't I guess the love reality show

792
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 3: that I'm not able to like get into, well, Love Island.

793
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 1: I think I had to watch it start at like

794
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:15,840
Speaker 1: three or four times because it is very like, it's weird.

795
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:19,719
Speaker 1: I it's very weird. I don't know. I don't know

796
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 1: why I like it. I think you like.

797
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:24,920
Speaker 3: Love, love is blind, You've tried Love Island. You like

798
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 3: Love on the Spectrum.

799
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, Love on the Spectrum. But that's another

800
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 1: show that I'm like, Oh like, I like the show.

801
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:32,319
Speaker 1: This is entertaining. There is a part of it that

802
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:37,480
Speaker 1: I think is really helped give more exposure to show

803
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 1: people like these are real people, these are real lives.

804
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:41,920
Speaker 1: This is what autism can look like. But at the

805
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 1: same time, we're it feels kind of icky because we're

806
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:50,319
Speaker 1: finding entertainment out of it's like watching you know, exploiting

807
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:53,400
Speaker 1: exploiting them. Yeah, so I have a weird but also

808
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:55,360
Speaker 1: I think so much good. I follow some of the

809
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:58,720
Speaker 1: characters from that show. They their lives have been enriched

810
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 1: so much by it, and they've gotten a lot of

811
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 1: good feedback. So I think for the most part, it's

812
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 1: worth it for the people that have been on that show.

813
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 1: Reality TV. Man, that's an ethical dilemma I think I

814
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:14,239
Speaker 1: try to avoid thinking about because it's like, yeah, most

815
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 1: of this is unethical, and I am drawn to it.

816
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 3: I mean, if there's an unethical train to get on,

817
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:24,840
Speaker 3: that would one, I can make a lot of other unequal.

818
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 3: Why can't I say that word right now?

819
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:28,759
Speaker 1: You got it?

820
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 3: Okay, hold on, there's a there is a lot of

821
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 3: unethical things happening right now in the world, and that

822
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 3: one seems.

823
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:42,279
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, we can deal with that.

824
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 3: Compared to the other things, that's like nothing. But so

825
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:47,879
Speaker 3: it's good you have a heart to care about them.

826
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:49,759
Speaker 3: You have a heart.

827
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 1: Okay. I can't wait for you to watch Love is Blind.

828
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 3: I can't wait for you to watch Love Story.

829
00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 1: I'm going to watch that.

830
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 3: I really think you should. Yeah, it's like the one

831
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 3: thing every now Thursday, except for actually Friday, let's be real,

832
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:04,320
Speaker 3: every Friday.

833
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 1: Were you watching it on Friday?

834
00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 3: Yes? This time I watched it on a Friday because

835
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 3: I'm not watching it at Thursday at eleven pm because

836
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 3: I'm asleep cuddling with my cat. My cat's cat, yes,

837
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:22,239
Speaker 3: and I hold her like aze like a little teddy bear.

838
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:28,279
Speaker 3: She row. But last night she was purring, and I

839
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:30,759
Speaker 3: was like, per more, this is healing for me, Like

840
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:34,680
Speaker 3: I feel like it was therapeutic for me. You know,

841
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:37,320
Speaker 3: they say that a purring cat can heal a bone faster.

842
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 3: I don't have any broken bones.

843
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 1: But it could make your bones stronger.

844
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:45,840
Speaker 3: Maybe I don't have broken bones, but I just felt

845
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 3: like something about this purring might be like just healing

846
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:53,400
Speaker 3: for my confusion that I have right now. And I

847
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:56,319
Speaker 3: was really loving that she was because sometimes she's not

848
00:42:56,600 --> 00:43:02,839
Speaker 3: into cuddling, but she's really exhausted. She won't I'll fight

849
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:07,240
Speaker 3: you if she's like wear down, she's like really tired.

850
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:09,719
Speaker 3: She'll just be like a rag doll and like let

851
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:11,760
Speaker 3: me do whatever. And then I rub her little palls,

852
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:14,360
Speaker 3: which made me think, did you ever have a rabbit's

853
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 3: foot as a kid?

854
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 1: No?

855
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:16,920
Speaker 3: What on a keychain?

856
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 1: Because I thought it was gross.

857
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:21,399
Speaker 3: Oh okay, I don't know, but it just takes me out.

858
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:24,439
Speaker 1: A real rabbit's foot feet, Yeah, No, I think they're

859
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 1: just furry thing.

860
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 3: No, they were real, the ones that you get like

861
00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 3: the bowling alley in the Little I don't know. I

862
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 3: thought mine was real. Maybe you bring up a good point,

863
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:33,959
Speaker 3: then maybe I just thought it was real.

864
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 1: I'm just like, where are we getting all these rabbit

865
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 1: feet from? Like that seems kind of crazy to kill

866
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:40,960
Speaker 1: all these rabbits and then use their feet as keychains.

867
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:44,800
Speaker 1: That's wild. Isn't that kind of crazy?

868
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 3: I don't know, I have not. I just always assumed

869
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 3: it was real. But it made me think. When I

870
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:51,279
Speaker 3: was rubbing my cat's paulus, then I was like, oh,

871
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 3: you know, she probably has like I don't know, sixteen

872
00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:58,520
Speaker 3: years left if she makes it to twenty. And then

873
00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:01,359
Speaker 3: I'm like should I would I take her paul and

874
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:03,799
Speaker 3: I have like, you know, like a rabbit's foot and

875
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:06,759
Speaker 3: my cat's paul so I could like rub it just

876
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 3: the foot. It's very therapeutic and like a little key

877
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:12,479
Speaker 3: chane and be good luck.

878
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 1: I'm sure people have done that before, So I don't

879
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:18,680
Speaker 1: want to yuck anybody's yum as I like to say,

880
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:19,120
Speaker 1: m hm.

881
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 3: I just don't know, you can I kind of like

882
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:23,880
Speaker 3: stuff my cat or anything, Well, you're gonna have to

883
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:26,920
Speaker 3: stuff the foot. Yeah, did you see the thing where

884
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:29,279
Speaker 3: you could now Meta might be doing a thing where

885
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:34,960
Speaker 3: you can keep a loved a deceased loved one alive online,

886
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 3: like they'll be able to comment on things.

887
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:37,719
Speaker 1: I don't like that.

888
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:38,319
Speaker 3: I don't either.

889
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 1: I do not like that.

890
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:40,719
Speaker 3: I know we talked about it on the Bobby Bone

891
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:42,400
Speaker 3: Show and I was like, uh, and then Bobby compared

892
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:44,759
Speaker 3: it to like it kind of feels like stuffing your pet,

893
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 3: Like some things just need to be like you need

894
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:48,960
Speaker 3: to move on, you know, you need to morm it

895
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 3: and move on.

896
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:51,279
Speaker 1: I don't want somebody that to do that to me,

897
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 1: Like when I die, let me die, Like, don't make

898
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:56,239
Speaker 1: a like a AI version of me like that I

899
00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:57,880
Speaker 1: then don't have control over I feel.

900
00:44:57,719 --> 00:44:59,360
Speaker 3: Like that's I'm telling you though. If I could have

901
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 3: a hologram of my mom, I would because some days

902
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 3: I just really like there was a couple of weeks ago,

903
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:06,799
Speaker 3: like it was a Saturday morning and I was having

904
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 3: coffee and I just was crying because like I wanted

905
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:11,280
Speaker 3: to talk to my mom. And if in that moment,

906
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:12,840
Speaker 3: like you couldn't do it all the time because I

907
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:15,319
Speaker 3: wouldn't want to like abuse it. But maybe I had,

908
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 3: like you know, like a four pack, like a four

909
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:22,279
Speaker 3: pack for the year where I could just and like

910
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:26,400
Speaker 3: my mom would show up couch. Yeah, she's a hologram

911
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:29,120
Speaker 3: that talks, so it's like she's there, but she's being

912
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:31,759
Speaker 3: beamed in. And then we have coffee together and I

913
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 3: get to like I get to share with her what's

914
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 3: on my mind and what would I need help with,

915
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:40,720
Speaker 3: and then she gets to give me her mom wisdom

916
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:43,319
Speaker 3: as a hologram and then proop she goes away and

917
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 3: I don't. I don't once a quarter Okay, then she

918
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:49,440
Speaker 3: can come back, Like I I would take that.

919
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:53,399
Speaker 1: I could understand that. I would be okay with it

920
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:56,240
Speaker 1: if it was really them, well.

921
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:57,799
Speaker 3: I mean not really, I mean it's you mean, if

922
00:45:57,800 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 3: it's a pre recorded.

923
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:04,360
Speaker 1: Like no, if like we could get supernatural and like

924
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:10,680
Speaker 1: the hologram was them coming down as like them. Okay,

925
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:16,239
Speaker 1: you know I because I feel weird about like I

926
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:18,480
Speaker 1: get the emotional part of it. I would want that too,

927
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 1: Like I could, yeah totally, but I'm like, oh, is

928
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 1: that fair to my Like would my mom want a

929
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 1: not real version of her? But maybe she would if

930
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 1: it brought maybe if you maybe I got a release.

931
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:36,040
Speaker 3: Signed by her. Yeah, well and it's too late my

932
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:37,680
Speaker 3: parents have passed. But if like they were to come

933
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 3: up with that technology, and I fed them all this information,

934
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:43,120
Speaker 3: like here's what my mom looked like, here's typically how

935
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:45,360
Speaker 3: she behaved, and they interviewed multiple people to kind of

936
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:49,760
Speaker 3: build like my mom's thinking and the wisdom she would share,

937
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:52,520
Speaker 3: Like and then when she my mom sat down and

938
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:56,160
Speaker 3: we're having coffee, like she just has like some things

939
00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 3: she could say to me that are comforting. And I

940
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:00,960
Speaker 3: know that I can like talk talk to her in

941
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:03,239
Speaker 3: any given moment. I'm just saying, you know, a four

942
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:07,439
Speaker 3: pack of a hologram my mom where because I don't

943
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:09,239
Speaker 3: always need her. But there was this moment like I

944
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 3: just was and I remember being on the phone with

945
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:12,320
Speaker 3: my boyfriend, Like I called to me, He's like, what

946
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:13,560
Speaker 3: are you doing? And I was like, and then I

947
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:15,920
Speaker 3: started crying and I was like, I just I'm having coffee,

948
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 3: but I just really wish my mom was here.

949
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:22,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, and well it sounds like they're going to have

950
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:23,600
Speaker 1: that eventually, so.

951
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, but we're probably not going to be here to

952
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:27,280
Speaker 3: see it.

953
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:28,959
Speaker 1: I think that could happen in our.

954
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:33,440
Speaker 3: List what the world might be over. Remember we're supposed

955
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:37,640
Speaker 3: to spend all our money. Okay, the world feels really

956
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:42,080
Speaker 3: really shaky right now. Hopefully it can hold off so

957
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:43,120
Speaker 3: I can make it to France.

958
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:46,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, we just needed well I don't want to say that.

959
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 1: I was about to say, we just need to make

960
00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:48,240
Speaker 1: it through the summer.

961
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:52,240
Speaker 3: I know. I wasn't like positive, everything's going to be fine. Yeah,

962
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:53,759
Speaker 3: I know we're not supposed to say this, but it

963
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:57,279
Speaker 3: will all be okay. It will all be okay. But

964
00:47:57,360 --> 00:48:00,880
Speaker 3: if you're not feeling okay right now, that's okay because

965
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:02,120
Speaker 3: it's hard out there.

966
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's rough. It's rough out there.

967
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:08,200
Speaker 3: And if it's not rough, like tell me what you're doing?

968
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:09,520
Speaker 1: Where are you? Where are you?

969
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:11,640
Speaker 3: What are you not what? I was talking to Eddie

970
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:13,880
Speaker 3: from the Bobby Bone Show about this today. He was like,

971
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:15,640
Speaker 3: why I don't have time to pay attentioneer to that,

972
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:17,480
Speaker 3: Like I got four kids, Like I'm trying to do this,

973
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:19,160
Speaker 3: and he's like, I don't want to be stressed by that.

974
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:20,800
Speaker 3: And I was like, well, it's not so much about

975
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:22,960
Speaker 3: being stressed by it. It's about being informed. Right. So

976
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 3: I do think that there's a balance but like right now,

977
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:27,279
Speaker 3: if you're just like, wait, who is that? And I

978
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:28,920
Speaker 3: was like, you don't know who this is? This is

979
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:31,200
Speaker 3: like the biggest news story ever. I'm not gonna put

980
00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:33,280
Speaker 3: Eddie on blast like Front Street and say every detail,

981
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:36,359
Speaker 3: but let's just say it's a main character and what's

982
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 3: going on right now. And Jeffrey Epstein, no, he knows

983
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:43,560
Speaker 3: who that is, but he's a main character in that situation.

984
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:45,920
Speaker 1: And Eddie's like, what, I don't know who this is?

985
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:51,239
Speaker 3: And part of me was jealous, like oh to have

986
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 3: that to where you can just like not.

987
00:48:53,960 --> 00:48:55,799
Speaker 1: To be a kid right now. It's like where you

988
00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:59,080
Speaker 1: don't I mean a kid kid where like there's like

989
00:48:59,120 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 1: a kid kid.

990
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:01,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, you don't have to know lentary school, I know,

991
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:03,960
Speaker 3: but even like junior high kids are having to worry

992
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:06,440
Speaker 3: about certain stuff, like even with just politically stuff that's

993
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:09,440
Speaker 3: going on, Like my son there's at their school. There

994
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 3: was a walk out like a protest thing, and so

995
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:14,520
Speaker 3: then all the kids were talking about it, which I

996
00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:17,000
Speaker 3: think is great to be able to demonstrate your rights

997
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:21,400
Speaker 3: peacefully or your beliefs peacefully and whatever, But some people

998
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:23,880
Speaker 3: were being completely disrespectful to the others, like it was

999
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:26,720
Speaker 3: almost like the kids the adult The kids were acting

1000
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:28,799
Speaker 3: how some of the adults are acting, so when we

1001
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:32,160
Speaker 3: can't show respect for like someone who wants to, you know,

1002
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:36,319
Speaker 3: feel one way respectfully, and you feel that way respectfully.

1003
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 3: But then the kids were yelling nasty, horrible things, and

1004
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:40,360
Speaker 3: then it got all the kids fighting, and it was

1005
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:42,360
Speaker 3: at the high school. But then my son's at the

1006
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:45,040
Speaker 3: middle school, and then his they've got siblings at the

1007
00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:47,240
Speaker 3: older school, and then they're starting to fight. And seems

1008
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:49,319
Speaker 3: that came home from school like so stressed because one

1009
00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:53,879
Speaker 3: of his friends was like, you know, really really emotionally

1010
00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:58,880
Speaker 3: impacted by everything that was happening. And he couldn't. I mean,

1011
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:01,160
Speaker 3: he's he's he's in junior high. He didn't even have

1012
00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:05,200
Speaker 3: the words to to articulate how he was feeling. And

1013
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:07,720
Speaker 3: some kids were just taking a stance because either it's

1014
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:09,480
Speaker 3: what they're seeing the older kids do, or it's what

1015
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:11,399
Speaker 3: their parents are saying, like they don't know why they

1016
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:15,680
Speaker 3: believe what they're believing. And Stevenson said that he just

1017
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:17,560
Speaker 3: kept saying to his friend group, He's like, guys, we

1018
00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:20,200
Speaker 3: should let the let's let the adults worry about this.

1019
00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:23,000
Speaker 3: And I was like, you know what, But that's that

1020
00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:26,120
Speaker 3: was a really good response of you trying to diffuse

1021
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:30,600
Speaker 3: the situation where emotions were getting high and stevenson't even

1022
00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:32,320
Speaker 3: said he had opinion on something. But then when I

1023
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:34,160
Speaker 3: asked him why, he couldn't really back it up, and

1024
00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:35,920
Speaker 3: I said, so, do you see my point of saying, like,

1025
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:38,200
Speaker 3: y'all are getting your emotions high, and y'all don't even

1026
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:41,160
Speaker 3: know yet how y'all truly feel about it. And here's

1027
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:43,680
Speaker 3: the thing you shouldn't have to know right now. Go

1028
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:47,320
Speaker 3: be a kid. Go be a kid, like, be compassionate

1029
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:50,040
Speaker 3: towards others, be hind and be a kid. But I

1030
00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:52,759
Speaker 3: love that one of his lines to diffuse it was

1031
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:56,640
Speaker 3: like maybe we should let the adults handle them. Can't

1032
00:50:56,640 --> 00:51:00,520
Speaker 3: handle that's right, Like some adults cannot. And it was

1033
00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:02,239
Speaker 3: just one of those things where I was like, oh, man,

1034
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:05,279
Speaker 3: I hate that they're having to even, you know, be

1035
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:08,120
Speaker 3: exposed to this on Like as kids like you, we

1036
00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 3: had to come home and like turn on the ten

1037
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:12,319
Speaker 3: o'clock news to know a lot of what was going

1038
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:12,960
Speaker 3: on in the world.

1039
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:14,640
Speaker 1: And now it's what about five o'clock.

1040
00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:19,360
Speaker 3: I felt like ten o'clock's like the primetime news. But yeah,

1041
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:22,879
Speaker 3: you're right, there was five o'clock, six o'clock, seven o'clock Rock,

1042
00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:28,120
Speaker 3: twelve o'clock Rock, whatever. You'd have to go home and

1043
00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:30,840
Speaker 3: like turn on the news to know what was happening.

1044
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:33,080
Speaker 3: And now kids have it in the palm at their hand,

1045
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:37,560
Speaker 3: and their algorithm is feeding them one narrative or another

1046
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:42,239
Speaker 3: narrative or another. And I don't know how I got

1047
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:44,239
Speaker 3: on that. It's just mostly Yeah, to be a kid

1048
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:46,440
Speaker 3: right now without a cell phone.

1049
00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:49,759
Speaker 1: Elementary school, Yeah, to be a first grader.

1050
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:54,279
Speaker 3: To be a toddler, well, apparently we might just need

1051
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:58,800
Speaker 3: to like do a quick lobotomy and we'll okay, okay,

1052
00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:03,400
Speaker 3: full circle moment. We went back to the Kennedys there, so, uh,

1053
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:07,400
Speaker 3: we'd love to hear from you. You can email us, hey,

1054
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:09,839
Speaker 3: they're at Feeling Things podcast dot com. Or you can

1055
00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:11,799
Speaker 3: call us and leave us a voicemail eight seven seven

1056
00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:17,120
Speaker 3: two O seven two o seven seven And and we

1057
00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:20,200
Speaker 3: hope you are having the day you need to have.

1058
00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:23,680
Speaker 1: Bye. Bye,