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Speaker 1: awaken to our true power the way we're born, and
Speaker 1: that is with the ability to control our brain, not
Speaker 1: six but hundred, and we have shown in brain scans
Speaker 1: how to do that. Welcome to the one you feed
Speaker 1: throughout time. Great thinkers have recognized the importance of the
Speaker 1: thoughts we have quotes like garbage in, garbage out, or
Speaker 1: you are what you think ring true. And yet for
Speaker 1: many of us, our thoughts don't strengthen or empower us.
Speaker 1: We tend toward negativity, self pity, jealousy, or fear. We
Speaker 1: see what we don't have. Instead, of what we do.
Speaker 1: We think things that hold us back and dampen our spirit.
Speaker 1: But it's not just about thinking. Our actions matter. It
Speaker 1: takes conscious, consistent and creative effort to make a life
Speaker 1: worth living. This podcast is about how other people keep
Speaker 1: themselves moving in the right direction, how they feed their
Speaker 1: good wolf. Thanks for joining us. Our guest on this
Speaker 1: episode is whim Hoff, a touch extreme athlete noted for
Speaker 1: his ability to withstand freezing temperatures. Whim has set world
Speaker 1: records for swimming under ice and prolonged full body contact
Speaker 1: with ice, and still holds the record for a barefoot
Speaker 1: half marathon on ice and snow. He attributes these feeds
Speaker 1: to the technique outlined in his book, The whim Hoff Method.
Speaker 1: Hi whim Welcome to the show. Thank you, Thank you
Speaker 1: for having me. It is a pleasure to have you on.
Speaker 1: We're going to discuss your book called the whim Hoff Method,
Speaker 1: Activate your full human potential. But we will do that
Speaker 1: in a moment after we start, Like we always do,
Speaker 1: we'll start with the parable. There's a grandfather who's talking
Speaker 1: with his grandson. He says, in life, there are two
Speaker 1: wolves in side of us that are always at battle.
Speaker 1: One is a good wolf, which represents things like kindness
Speaker 1: and bravery and love, and the other is a bad wolf,
Speaker 1: which represents things like greed and hatred and fear. And
Speaker 1: the grandson stops and he thinks about it for a second,
Speaker 1: and he looks up at his grandfather and he says, well, grandfather,
Speaker 1: which one wins? And the grandfather says, the one you feed.
Speaker 1: So I'd like to start off by asking you what
Speaker 1: that parable means to you in your life and in
Speaker 1: the work that you do. The one you feed is
Speaker 1: gonna grow. That is amazing. That is amazing. So right
Speaker 1: now I'm doing a research with the top researchers on
Speaker 1: the d n A how to tap into our gene
Speaker 1: expressions into that what fundamentally makes us being alive, being healthy,
Speaker 1: being happy, being strong. That's what we all want. We
Speaker 1: all want love. That's not boy, but because of our
Speaker 1: genetical past, the genetics, and of the circumstances in the
Speaker 1: world like survival and having to work every day getting
Speaker 1: it into the stress, we feed without intention into the
Speaker 1: bad wolf. We all want the good wolf. We all
Speaker 1: want to we all are friends from our childhood with
Speaker 1: the wolf of love given and feed it by our mother,
Speaker 1: our father, our family. We all wanted. But then we
Speaker 1: are also influenced by the genetical past and our circumstances
Speaker 1: right here, right now, And there are some mysterious forces
Speaker 1: in the world which are feeding into the bad Wolf,
Speaker 1: which are not thing necessarily into the happiness, into the
Speaker 1: strength and the health of the people, but into greet
Speaker 1: into money making schemes, into power. And that has no
Speaker 1: sensitivity because if you love others, you equal the power,
Speaker 1: you equal the energy, you equal the money. You divide
Speaker 1: it and you share. So the bad Wolf is not
Speaker 1: necessarily a think within us. It's more the reality where
Speaker 1: we live in and our genetical past. And there I've
Speaker 1: been looking to it because when I was twelve years
Speaker 1: I got into that. I got into that a what
Speaker 1: I see in the world. They abuse, the wars, they're cruelty,
Speaker 1: two animals. The way the people treat each other, that
Speaker 1: is not good. And I'm not gonna submit my life
Speaker 1: to that reality. I'm going to do something against it.
Speaker 1: So it was the bad wolf that woke up the
Speaker 1: good wolf consciously, consciously I began to work on it.
Speaker 1: And now forty eight years later, no fifty years later,
Speaker 1: I am changing the signs as a drop out of school,
Speaker 1: I'm changing science. I went into nature. I had the
Speaker 1: hardships of life. I lost my first wife in a suicide,
Speaker 1: which was also not elected by choice. It overcame it's
Speaker 1: a terror, but nobody could do something against it. Then
Speaker 1: I said to myself again, I will go on until
Speaker 1: I win of depression, of disease, of helplessness, and feel
Speaker 1: the freedom and power within us. And once we have
Speaker 1: a way to tap into our potential, we are able
Speaker 1: to choose happiness, strength, health, and nobody will not do that.
Speaker 1: Nobody will not choose that if he has only the
Speaker 1: control over his mind and body. And I'm into that.
Speaker 1: So that's my answer to this parable is yes, they
Speaker 1: are both there, but the good all wolf is gone away.
Speaker 1: And this time we do it consciously and we bring
Speaker 1: on the love and we make it accessible like this
Speaker 1: podcast does. Too many more people showing them through the science,
Speaker 1: starting out with a choice inside who do you want
Speaker 1: to win? The good or the bad wolf, the love
Speaker 1: or the hatreds? Who do you want to win? If
Speaker 1: you take on that consciously, you are going to win.
Speaker 1: The love is going to win. And that's the way
Speaker 1: I see it. I love it. That is a great
Speaker 1: way for us to start off. And I love that
Speaker 1: idea that the bad wolf woke the good wolf up
Speaker 1: and inspired him. The bad wolf inspires the good wolf.
Speaker 1: Nobody's quite put it that way before. And I love
Speaker 1: that idea because I've been thinking about this a lot lately,
Speaker 1: because a lot of people are looking out at the
Speaker 1: world and we're seeing so much bad, and that's all
Speaker 1: that we are focused on. And I just think it's
Speaker 1: so important to say, well, what is the bad? Tell
Speaker 1: me about what I value? I see these things as bad? Why? Oh,
Speaker 1: because it tells me that I value love, I value goodness,
Speaker 1: I value justice, I value fairness. So then how do
Speaker 1: I bring more of that into the world? Exactly? And
Speaker 1: because of this me telling long time ago already, because
Speaker 1: I got acquainted by finding answers in feeling, not in books,
Speaker 1: but in nature. I went into the cold. I sacrificed
Speaker 1: so much of my body and my mind to go
Speaker 1: and endure cold that I overcame the bad wolf the cold.
Speaker 1: I overcame the cold within myself, bringing heat while being
Speaker 1: in the cold, While being in in the cold, feeling comfortable,
Speaker 1: being able to bring love and understanding and deep connection
Speaker 1: within myself while being in distressful negativity. The freezing cold,
Speaker 1: and the freezing cold taught me. It taught me. It's
Speaker 1: my teacher, like bad wolf is my teacher. If you
Speaker 1: overcome the cold, you overcome stress. If you go overcome stress,
Speaker 1: then you overcome what is coursed by the bad wolf
Speaker 1: that he wants to stress you. It stresses you, and
Speaker 1: you have to teach by it. To be taught by
Speaker 1: it and not flee from it. You have to go
Speaker 1: to it. You got a power from your good wolf
Speaker 1: to overcome the bad wolf. The bad wolf is not
Speaker 1: even necessarily a bad wolf. It's a teacher, and the
Speaker 1: teacher is merciless. The teacher is a righteous It shows
Speaker 1: you how to be and who and what you are.
Speaker 1: Say not what you think, but what you are for real,
Speaker 1: and that reality you can overcome. That reality exists in
Speaker 1: all the world. We see its happening every day. But
Speaker 1: do you see and feel what is happening within you
Speaker 1: and overcoming it? Because every day you have the chance
Speaker 1: to overcome it. I wake up every day, I'm gonna away.
Speaker 1: I'm away a man, I'm gonna feel great. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: send so much love to the world, to my trees,
Speaker 1: to the garden, to everybody who passes by, and how
Speaker 1: I'm doing science. I'm doing science right now to show
Speaker 1: beyond speculation, that we have a connection within at will,
Speaker 1: able to control and to make happen. That what we
Speaker 1: thought of, what's not possible because the bad move. The
Speaker 1: teachers say, yeah, it's not possible. It's not possible. Only
Speaker 1: this is possible. You have to learn about this. No,
Speaker 1: that's the illusion, and the illusion and us isn't battle
Speaker 1: to be overcome. Let's take our of the illusion being
Speaker 1: overcome by the clarity of your being, and that is feeling,
Speaker 1: that feeling of love, that is freed of thoughts and doubts,
Speaker 1: that is self confident, that stands like a rock, that
Speaker 1: radiates like the sun. That is the way I stand
Speaker 1: up every day, rise out of my bad. Now. Question
Speaker 1: about you. When you were younger, you're obviously very fired up,
Speaker 1: You're full of life, You're gonna win. Did you always
Speaker 1: have that indomitable spirit or did you develop that as
Speaker 1: part of your method? Did you always have this sort
Speaker 1: of natural fire? No, I did not have that always.
Speaker 1: But when I decided to take on the bad wolf,
Speaker 1: to do the teaching, to do the think that is
Speaker 1: being taught within me, my life's lessons, my ship. When
Speaker 1: that aim to me and knocked on my door, saying,
Speaker 1: what are you gonna do? Are you gonna follow me
Speaker 1: like a sheep? Or are you the good wolf that
Speaker 1: is able to overcome the bad wolf? And I said, amen,
Speaker 1: I'm leading the flock inside myself. I am the leader.
Speaker 1: I am the shepherd. I take care, I make a
Speaker 1: sure protection is there, and I wander through the fields
Speaker 1: of life. I will make the change happening. And it
Speaker 1: began when I was twelve years and from there something
Speaker 1: starts from within. If first it is little, but it
Speaker 1: becomes stronger. Neurologically it becomes stronger, and then it is
Speaker 1: able to be connected with your will, and then you
Speaker 1: are able to decide what is happening every day with
Speaker 1: the contemporary energies, the way it influenced upon you, and
Speaker 1: that I found the cold. The cold became the bad wolf,
Speaker 1: the negativity, the freezing cold. Instead of comfort, I chose discomfort.
Speaker 1: I chose to battle the wolf through intuition and instinct,
Speaker 1: directly I face to face, and I found this is
Speaker 1: the way. The doorway to my inner power to be
Speaker 1: controlled at will. And this is like forty four years ago,
Speaker 1: and now I tell you I'm changing the signs fundamentally
Speaker 1: through every research I am doing. I'm a drop out
Speaker 1: of school, but I know how the wolf, the bad wolf,
Speaker 1: causes disease, causes depression instead of us being able at
Speaker 1: will to cause happiness, strength and health to happen every day.
Speaker 1: I found it. I tamed the bad wolf. Now I
Speaker 1: got two good wolves. It's a pack. It's a pack
Speaker 1: of wolves, and we bring unjustice to its knees because
Speaker 1: they are face within one man. We are able to
Speaker 1: make the chains happening because the bad wolf, the bad hemisphere,
Speaker 1: the bad things that are happening right now, they should
Speaker 1: be stopped. Somebody needs to break the chain, and that's
Speaker 1: what we do. Okay. I want to get into the
Speaker 1: whim Hoff method what it actually is in a moment,
Speaker 1: but before I do that, I want to set the stage.
Speaker 1: You've set some of it for us, But in essence,
Speaker 1: a big part of your work is about using stress
Speaker 1: stressors on our system to make us stronger. I was
Speaker 1: actually watching a little bit of a webinar that you
Speaker 1: participated in with Melissa Apple out of University of California.
Speaker 1: She's been on our show before, and the webinar was
Speaker 1: about using the right amount of stress, hormatic stress, hormetic
Speaker 1: stress to help us grow. So your method, and you
Speaker 1: say early in your book, you say that in the
Speaker 1: absence of environmental stress, the things we have built to
Speaker 1: make our lives easier have actually made us weaker. But
Speaker 1: what if we could reawaken the dormant physiological processes that
Speaker 1: made our ancestors so strong. So your method at its
Speaker 1: heart is about bringing stressors into our lives, being less
Speaker 1: comfortable so that we awaken this indomitable strength and resilience
Speaker 1: that you're talking about. Yes, absolutely, the difference between us
Speaker 1: and our ancestors is that we have a lot more
Speaker 1: neurology going inside of our skull. Had the brain. It's
Speaker 1: a lot more now. That is because the human brain
Speaker 1: has evolved is logical, and we make iPhones and the
Speaker 1: fifty years ago the capacity of the iPhone now it's
Speaker 1: like ten times more in capacity than the Apollo project altogether,
Speaker 1: the Commanders Center, the u Ston, the Cape Canaveral, the
Speaker 1: rocket itself, the people communicating from space to each other.
Speaker 1: That now is ten times more in our iPhones. Our
Speaker 1: iPhones is the fruit of our mind, and it reflects
Speaker 1: what is going on in our mind at least ten
Speaker 1: times more in neurology than what happened in the prehistorics
Speaker 1: in the brain of our ancestors. But then that's great,
Speaker 1: that's technology. I think, wow, technology amazing, a miracle of
Speaker 1: the human mind. Amazing. We should use it. Well. What
Speaker 1: happened is the blood flow in the human brain is
Speaker 1: more than in the rest of the brain than in
Speaker 1: the mammalian brain, the limbic system and the reptilian brain.
Speaker 1: The brain stamp and thus it's more un a stamped
Speaker 1: by those parts of the brain. That part of the brain.
Speaker 1: The healing happens that part of the brain dangerous being
Speaker 1: confronted with through adrenaline, through dopamine, serotonin and orphans, cannabinoids, opioid.
Speaker 1: Now we have a society with the opioid crisis, with depression,
Speaker 1: without immune diseases, with cancer, and we don't know what
Speaker 1: to do with it. While we have all the answers
Speaker 1: and the capacity to battle that only if we bring
Speaker 1: the blood flow into the olympic system, into the brain stem.
Speaker 1: And I'm showing that in science. In two thousand fourteen,
Speaker 1: I showed in science, together with a group of people
Speaker 1: being taught in four days how to defy a bacteria injected,
Speaker 1: which was not being able to be shown by people
Speaker 1: to be done in university hospital settings. In research injected
Speaker 1: with the bacteria, all the sixteen thousand people became sick
Speaker 1: with the same experimental model they began with me. I
Speaker 1: did not become sick. And then I said, yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: not special, light a special I will show you give
Speaker 1: me a group of people. And then I showed a
Speaker 1: group of people within a couple of days being able
Speaker 1: to defy the bacteria injected. The bacteria the virus only
Speaker 1: came when we began to flock together when sanity was
Speaker 1: not good. When we are anated from nature is when
Speaker 1: all these diseases, plagues, pandemics, etc. They all came, and
Speaker 1: we alienated while going into cities and all from our
Speaker 1: natural harmonious interaction with nature, with the wind, with the rain,
Speaker 1: with the cold, with the heat, with the danger. And
Speaker 1: then the blood flow went more into trading, thinking overthinking,
Speaker 1: and then those areas of the brain built up a deficit.
Speaker 1: They were more on standby than flourishing than developing neurologically.
Speaker 1: So right now what I'm showing is technology, great human brain, marvelous,
Speaker 1: it's miraculous what there is achieved. But stand still where
Speaker 1: we came from. Stand still where we came from, because
Speaker 1: it's all inside our brain, in in our reptilian brain,
Speaker 1: into the feeling of the limbic system, which is feeling
Speaker 1: pure feeling emotion. And then the brain stamp is survival.
Speaker 1: When you are sick, the brain stamps able. Because I'm
Speaker 1: showing this insigns is able to interact on the batter
Speaker 1: on inflammation. Inflammation is the cause and effect of any disease.
Speaker 1: And we have great mechanisms inside our brain connected to
Speaker 1: the immune cells to invigorate the immune cells to do
Speaker 1: the right thing what it needs to happen. But because
Speaker 1: it isn't standby tiercent less blood flow because of our
Speaker 1: human brain swallowing up all the blood flow, the neurology,
Speaker 1: the neurological traffic isn't thinking thinking, thinking, thinking, thinking, thinking,
Speaker 1: and not into survival. This danger or is gone. We
Speaker 1: live in comfort zone behavior. Thus we got alienated and done.
Speaker 1: When something is understands still, it is like water understand
Speaker 1: still bacteria are able to grow, Viruses are able to
Speaker 1: grow back salts, depressions, inflammation is able to grow. It's
Speaker 1: all logic. Let me tell you, we have all the
Speaker 1: innate capacity to deal with whatever disease there is going on.
Speaker 1: And this sounds all great, And that's why I go
Speaker 1: to science and then with Elissa Epel, who is a
Speaker 1: professor into the DNA, into the genes, we go to
Speaker 1: the building blocks of life and we show that true
Speaker 1: hormatic stressful exercising, which everybody is able to do, we
Speaker 1: are able to bring back our innate capacities to our
Speaker 1: conscious will. There we are. Let's talk a little bit
Speaker 1: about the method itself, because the method itself is very simple.
Speaker 1: What you're describing is very profound, right. I found something
Speaker 1: in a paper that was written recently that said, our
Speaker 1: results provide compelling evidence for the primacy of the brain,
Speaker 1: the central nervous system, rather than the body in mediating
Speaker 1: the iceman that's you, responses to cold exposure. They suggest
Speaker 1: the compelling possibility that the whim Hall method might allow
Speaker 1: practitioners to develop higher levels of control over key components
Speaker 1: of the autonomic system, with implications for lifestyle interventions. That
Speaker 1: might ameliorate multiple clinical syndromes. So it's very profound, right,
Speaker 1: But let's talk about the method itself. It consists of
Speaker 1: three main things. One is exposure to cold, the other
Speaker 1: is conscious breathing, and then the last is the power
Speaker 1: of the mind. So I thought, what we could do
Speaker 1: with our remaining time is just walk through those three
Speaker 1: elements somewhat quickly, give people a basic idea of them.
Speaker 1: So let's first talk about cold exposure. Maybe tell us
Speaker 1: about how you discovered cold exposure. And then, more practically,
Speaker 1: for those of us who are not going to be
Speaker 1: submersing ourselves under frozen lakes, what do we do? Where
Speaker 1: do we start with? This? Guy say, always a cold
Speaker 1: shower a day keeps the doctor away. And even the
Speaker 1: doctor is doing it because now it has been shown
Speaker 1: that the cold is very effective in training the vascular
Speaker 1: system the cardiovascular system. And the cardiovascular system contains millions
Speaker 1: of little muscles. It's about seventy thousand miles long in
Speaker 1: each and every one of us. But we always dressed
Speaker 1: in clothes. We are destimulating all the tonus of those
Speaker 1: little muscles, primitive muscles around the arteries, the veins, and
Speaker 1: the capillaries seventy thousand miles millions of little muscles. If
Speaker 1: you take a cold shower, then those little muscles are stimulated.
Speaker 1: Then they help the blood flow a lot better through
Speaker 1: the system to reach the cells. With that nutrients, vitamins
Speaker 1: and oxygen, the vital energy gets better to our cells.
Speaker 1: We get a lot more energy, that is just because
Speaker 1: of the cold shower. And then the heart rate goes
Speaker 1: down with beats a minute because all those little muscles
Speaker 1: help the blood flow, so the pumping is a lot less.
Speaker 1: That means stress is out of the body. Accelerated heart
Speaker 1: rate is equal to stress. It's dangerous and it shows
Speaker 1: because a killer number one in our society is still
Speaker 1: cardiovascular related diseases. And it is not only about the
Speaker 1: death rate of that annually, but it's also about the
Speaker 1: quality of life because a lot of people live in
Speaker 1: a lot of stress and less energy. Now, if you
Speaker 1: take the cold shower, you bring the vascular system to
Speaker 1: its natural condition and then you get a lot more
Speaker 1: energy out of it and a lot less stress. I
Speaker 1: say a cold shower a day keeps the doctor away.
Speaker 1: And when I began to do this when I was
Speaker 1: seventeen forty four, years ago, I felt attracted after being
Speaker 1: debating philosophy and kepting into esoteric disciplines and philosophies and
Speaker 1: religions and all the chatter box was really are trying
Speaker 1: to find the meaning of life. And then one day
Speaker 1: I saw the cold water, thin layer eyes. I went
Speaker 1: in just by feeling God feeling, and I felt the
Speaker 1: meaning of life. The meaning of life is deep connection
Speaker 1: within ourselves, and it's there. It's not out there religious books,
Speaker 1: it's not out there in big travels and all. It's
Speaker 1: right here right now. Take the damned good old cold
Speaker 1: shower and you will find life instantly. And then, because
Speaker 1: do we that going into the cold gave me such
Speaker 1: a rush inside like natural drugs, I found out after
Speaker 1: doing it regularly that I could make a chance of
Speaker 1: my chemistry, of my strength inside the cold, icy cold water,
Speaker 1: which is not talking. It is an experience that talks
Speaker 1: to you. And then you feel, hey, if I breathe
Speaker 1: deep actually, and then I'm making myself stronger against the
Speaker 1: aggressive impact of the stressful, cold, icy cold water. And
Speaker 1: that's what I did. I began to do deep breathing.
Speaker 1: And it's also the first thing you do when you're
Speaker 1: going to the cold water. Naturally you go into deep breathing,
Speaker 1: and we became shallow breeders all in the world. While
Speaker 1: the breathing, deep breathing is able to change the deep
Speaker 1: chemistry of ours, our biochemistry, the adrenaline. And then I
Speaker 1: began to separate that deep breathing and doing it at home,
Speaker 1: and then I saw all the beautiful things in my mind.
Speaker 1: I could stay for minutes without breathing, And now I'm
Speaker 1: teaching that how to trick or to trick the brainstand,
Speaker 1: how to trick the olympic system, how to alter your mood,
Speaker 1: how to activate your immune system just by breathing. Part
Speaker 1: of the quantum physics now show that we are able
Speaker 1: to go from matter into anti matter and back. That's entanglement,
Speaker 1: and we can do that with our mind. But it's
Speaker 1: future sides. Okay. I got into the breathing, and that
Speaker 1: breathing showed in two thousand fourteen thing techniques being able
Speaker 1: to define bacteria that means activate the immune system, and
Speaker 1: which is the topic right now. How to suppress the
Speaker 1: innate immune system, the overactive immune system. Covid A virus
Speaker 1: does that. We showed how to bring it down and
Speaker 1: it should be investigated better because we got the scientific
Speaker 1: evidence for that. They should take that on. It's not me,
Speaker 1: it's science. There's no speculation about it. We are able
Speaker 1: to bring down the damaging factor of COVID ninety or
Speaker 1: any other virus and bacteria. We showed that in two
Speaker 1: thousand forty scientific papers, in the Proceedings of National Academy
Speaker 1: of Science, the Best of Papers, and in Nature. So
Speaker 1: it's there. It's not mine anymore. It's in the university books.
Speaker 1: It changed fundamentally what we are able through just breathing techniques.
Speaker 1: We are able to tap into the autonomic nervous system.
Speaker 1: Thought of impossible, now it's possible. It's there. We did it.
Speaker 1: We did our all work, We did the signs. We
Speaker 1: are just showing it to the people, and through this
Speaker 1: it gets out. I want to go back to cold
Speaker 1: showers for a second. Then I want to come back
Speaker 1: and hit the breathing a little bit, so cold showers.
Speaker 1: I've been taking like a thirty second cold shower at
Speaker 1: the end of my showers for years now. Um, and
Speaker 1: I am not quite superhuman yet, so is my issue.
Speaker 1: I need to be doing it longer, build up to
Speaker 1: longer and longer times. Is that really where the power
Speaker 1: comes from? And what point do you want to get to?
Speaker 1: How long? And then my other question is it seems
Speaker 1: like in a lot of parts of the US, particularly
Speaker 1: in the summer months, the cold shower isn't that cold.
Speaker 1: It seems like the groundwater gets kind of I mean,
Speaker 1: it's not warm, but it's not icy. Yeah yeah, And
Speaker 1: uh so it is not icy here as well in
Speaker 1: the summer, absolutely not. And I did that for say
Speaker 1: thirty years, just because I had no money to buy
Speaker 1: ice cubes all the time, so I just did when
Speaker 1: the winter was coming slowly but surely the temperature of
Speaker 1: the water goes down to freezing temperatures. That move is
Speaker 1: enough to be followed and have a great cardiovascular fitness
Speaker 1: workout every year. This is what I learned once I
Speaker 1: had to do a world record in September, and that
Speaker 1: was preceded by the months August, July, June, and May,
Speaker 1: which is not freezing at all. It's very hot and
Speaker 1: very warm. So I was concerned, can I do that
Speaker 1: world record without any training possible? And I found out
Speaker 1: in September, front of television and millions of people. I
Speaker 1: did that. It was a great record because I used
Speaker 1: the power of my mind which I had learned over
Speaker 1: the years being in distressful situations. You learned to deal
Speaker 1: with the stress neurologically. Because you consciously go to the
Speaker 1: cold water every day in the winter, you developed neurology
Speaker 1: that is connected to the stress mechanisms inside the brain.
Speaker 1: It's only logic, and that in the summer you're able
Speaker 1: to do something which you only do in the winter. No,
Speaker 1: you are confronted by the stress and you make use
Speaker 1: of the neurological connection with your stress mechanisms learned by
Speaker 1: going into the cold before. It was a great record.
Speaker 1: It was flawlessly done. It was amazing. I was so
Speaker 1: flabbercast at myself. This is the way I found out
Speaker 1: what is the power of the mind. Then it only
Speaker 1: started and then with the psychiatrists professors in Detroit in Michigan,
Speaker 1: in brain scans, I showed cold water coming to my
Speaker 1: skin and just because I was thinking I don't want
Speaker 1: my skin temperature going down, the stress mechanisms then made
Speaker 1: an answer and this and the cold water was not
Speaker 1: making my skin temperature going down. The model of it
Speaker 1: all is it's not only about the cold it is
Speaker 1: about connecting with the stress mechanisms to deal with stress
Speaker 1: in any shape. That's the way we are naturally built.
Speaker 1: And now we are able with our neurology modern neurology
Speaker 1: insight to make the connections with the deep brainstand with
Speaker 1: the limbic system from the side of the developed human brain.
Speaker 1: We forgot about these parts and now we can go
Speaker 1: back and I found the way, and this is the
Speaker 1: way to successfully battle depression and inflammation. It's amazing and
Speaker 1: amazingly simple. I appreciate what you just said there, which
Speaker 1: was basically, if you trained during the winter months, you'll
Speaker 1: retain that capability in the months where the showers not
Speaker 1: as cold. How long would somebody who's doing this want
Speaker 1: to get up to as an average daily cold shower
Speaker 1: two minutes? Three minutes? Do you have a recommendation you
Speaker 1: go naturally begin with thirty seconds, and then naturally you
Speaker 1: built up the condition of your vescular system. That means
Speaker 1: that you feel without force, that you are able to
Speaker 1: go longer. And then if you are able to go
Speaker 1: for two three minutes, then you're ready for anything. Okay, wonderful.
Speaker 1: Now let's talk about breathing, because breathing sounds like it
Speaker 1: should be pretty complicated if we're gonna make these amazing
Speaker 1: things happen, But your breathing is not complicated. Describe what
Speaker 1: the breathing protocol is in the whim Off method. First
Speaker 1: of all, very simple and very strong, effective and very accessible.
Speaker 1: So here and that that's for the person who thinks
Speaker 1: are but I cannot do it? Anybody can do this. Anybody.
Speaker 1: You can stop right now or after this podcast when
Speaker 1: you when you see bit just do this. And we
Speaker 1: have a free up on our website which will guide
Speaker 1: you and provide you with everything you need to know
Speaker 1: to get it done. Excellent. We'll put links in the
Speaker 1: show notes to that good that the following deep breathing.
Speaker 1: What is deep breathing? Use your belly, use your chest
Speaker 1: because the lungs are connected to the belly muscles and
Speaker 1: and the chest. The diet fragon and you feel belly
Speaker 1: up fully, the chest and letting go fully in letting go.
Speaker 1: So it doesn't have to be slow. It just has
Speaker 1: to be deep, yes, because you're not taking a long,
Speaker 1: slow breath. You're taking a relatively quick deep breath there, yes, Jeff,
Speaker 1: And if you want to take it slow, it's all
Speaker 1: all right. The thing is do thirty times. There is
Speaker 1: no real protocol, but go deep, take your full lungs in,
Speaker 1: and then let it go fully in, letting go, not
Speaker 1: fully out, but fool in. And there you let go
Speaker 1: fully in, letting go, fooling in, letting go, And that
Speaker 1: we do thirty times. Forty times you feel tingling, you
Speaker 1: can't feel lightheadedness. It's all all right, it's all described
Speaker 1: in the free app And then the last one you
Speaker 1: do fully in, you let go and you stop. You
Speaker 1: stop after the excelation. Amazing, amazing how long you can
Speaker 1: stay without breathing and without force after the excelation number
Speaker 1: one one minute or one a half minute without air
Speaker 1: in the lungs, I mean, with little air in the
Speaker 1: lungs after the letting go stop retention one minute, one
Speaker 1: a half minute. Now, that is because we alkhalized the body.
Speaker 1: We blew off the carbon dioxide. Yeah, that what makes
Speaker 1: us acidic is being blown off. Then the alkalinity of arises,
Speaker 1: pH rises, and then you are able after the excelation,
Speaker 1: with a little bit of air in your lungs stop.
Speaker 1: You're able to stay one one a half minute easy,
Speaker 1: without force, without breathing. Now, your pH is just right
Speaker 1: on nice, great, but your oxygen after a minute goes
Speaker 1: dramad tcklee down in the system while you not feel
Speaker 1: any urge to breathe. And then the brainstamp, the danger
Speaker 1: of survival suddenly is fully on. The adrenal access activated
Speaker 1: and you feel kind of i it's an amazing way
Speaker 1: to trick the deepest part of your brain to awaken
Speaker 1: to be activated robustly. Then the circus begins. Then the
Speaker 1: lights begin and it's great. You feel light, you feel
Speaker 1: high on your own supply, and you are dealing with
Speaker 1: the brain stamp, with the Olympic system, with the reptilian,
Speaker 1: the survival. And then when you feel the urge to
Speaker 1: breathe again, you take a breath fully in. You all
Speaker 1: that and you squeeze to your head five seconds to
Speaker 1: bring the cerebral spinal do it to the head, and
Speaker 1: that means that there's a lot of oxygen coming in,
Speaker 1: a lot of our clinity. With the cerebral spinal fluid
Speaker 1: goes into the deepest part of the brain. Then it
Speaker 1: becomes more alive and it connects all to your will,
Speaker 1: and it's amazing. It's so simple and it's sensational when
Speaker 1: you experience it by yourself. That's why I always say
Speaker 1: feeling is understanding. So a couple of rounds and you
Speaker 1: will find out. You will do it one a half minute,
Speaker 1: two minutes, two and a half minutes, three minutes without
Speaker 1: air in the lock. Can you imagine that is directly
Speaker 1: aromatic stress in the deepest. If there is any stress,
Speaker 1: the strongest, it is the breath. If we cannot breathe anymore,
Speaker 1: it is the strongest. And our reptilian brain now has
Speaker 1: been activated through manipulating the biochemistry, and with that the
Speaker 1: survival of our being, that is breathing in and breathing out.
Speaker 1: And we are able to alter the biochemistry consciously with
Speaker 1: the human brain, then stop it because the pH levels
Speaker 1: are just right, and then hold it in a position
Speaker 1: where no animal does this because they don't know how
Speaker 1: to do because they have no human brain. That's only us.
Speaker 1: And we are able to stop this reptilian mode of survival.
Speaker 1: We are able to trigger it through the breathing by
Speaker 1: stopping it, changing the biochemistry and manipulating it. And then
Speaker 1: suddenly the limbic system and the brain stem are going
Speaker 1: to start beginning at our will and when do you
Speaker 1: need it when you have inflammation, when do you need
Speaker 1: it where you have depression, And we are then able
Speaker 1: to bring in the healing powers of those areas, the cannabinoids,
Speaker 1: that dopomins, the serotonants, the adrenaline, their opioids, they are
Speaker 1: all there. And it's amazing how simple it is. And
Speaker 1: this should be told to the general public because nobody
Speaker 1: is stupid, but we are stupefied. And now it's time
Speaker 1: to awaken to our true power, the way we're born with,
Speaker 1: and that is with the ability to control our brain,
Speaker 1: not sixteen, but hundred. And we have shown this in
Speaker 1: brain scans how to do that. We have shown in
Speaker 1: Germany in brain scans, how to activate consciously hundred percent
Speaker 1: of the neural activity in the brain. And this is
Speaker 1: all new, of course, and quite incredible. But this is
Speaker 1: more logical than having a lump of meat that is
Speaker 1: our brain with eighty four without our control. So it's
Speaker 1: time that we wake up to our deeper potential and
Speaker 1: learn to deal with inflammation, depression, be happy, be strong,
Speaker 1: and be healthy and pass it on to our kids
Speaker 1: and to ourselves. Excellent. So I have a quick question
Speaker 1: about in essence we're saying by triggering this response in
Speaker 1: the limbic and brain stem that we wake those parts
Speaker 1: of the brain up and we bring them back online.
Speaker 1: My question is one of the things that we know
Speaker 1: that people who deal with a lot of emotional stress anxiety, right,
Speaker 1: is that their limbic system seems to be over activated.
Speaker 1: So describe me the difference between what you're doing and
Speaker 1: what what we would consider a psychological stressor why is
Speaker 1: one we work it in it alivens us and the
Speaker 1: other causes us problems. Yeah. Yeah, this is the innate
Speaker 1: immune system at work. Depression in general creates over activity
Speaker 1: in our brain. That's inflammation. That is the innate immune system.
Speaker 1: And in two thousand fourteen we have shown how to
Speaker 1: quiet to suppress the innate immune system, to suppress the
Speaker 1: over active immune system, which is the course of depression,
Speaker 1: which is the course of rematriit arthritis, of Crown's disease,
Speaker 1: of all the outer immune diseases. That is, when stress
Speaker 1: deregulates our immune system, then the immune system doesn't know
Speaker 1: what is going on and begins to give us fever
Speaker 1: over activity, and we did not know how to bring
Speaker 1: that down. That was the general paradigm in science medical science.
Speaker 1: We cannot because it's part of the autonomic servous system.
Speaker 1: We cannot bring that down. And that in two thousand
Speaker 1: fourteen we clearly have shown to bring down that over
Speaker 1: activity that causes the immune system decidok in storm the inflammation.
Speaker 1: How to bring it down in a quarter of our
Speaker 1: all of them after sixteen people who could not subtly
Speaker 1: twelve people quote both there is and that it sounds incredible,
Speaker 1: but it is incredible what we have in our potential.
Speaker 1: And it's incredible how accessible it is, and it's incredible
Speaker 1: how simple it is, and it's incredible how powerful it is.
Speaker 1: I will potential and this is what I want to
Speaker 1: bring to the people, the self confidence back in people
Speaker 1: that they are able to regulate their own mood and
Speaker 1: their own disease, making it at ease again. Excellent, Well, wim,
Speaker 1: thank you so much for taking the time to come on.
Speaker 1: I really enjoyed reading your book, and I really enjoyed
Speaker 1: this conversation. And I am looking forward to uh increasing
Speaker 1: my cold showers from my standard thirty seconds a day
Speaker 1: to three minutes over time. It's good, it's good, it's
Speaker 1: really good. Yeah, Well, thank you so much. I really
Speaker 1: do appreciate your time. Right on, Eric, great time, good work,
Speaker 1: You're doing great work. Thank you. Bring it on, Bring
Speaker 1: it on, keep on bringing it on. It's great. We
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