1 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:06,480 Speaker 1: Hi, get everybody. I'm Dan Horde and thanks for downloading 2 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:11,799 Speaker 1: the Bengals Booth Podcast. The come on up for the rise. 3 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:17,119 Speaker 1: In addition, as the AFC North champion Bengals look to 4 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:20,239 Speaker 1: end their thirty one year drought without a playoff win 5 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 1: as they host the Las Vegas Raiders. Coming up, I'll 6 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 1: talk to the delightful k Adams from Good Morning Football 7 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 1: on the NFL Network. She'll tell us why she predicted 8 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 1: that the Bengals would be a playoff team back in July. 9 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:37,920 Speaker 1: My one on one player interview is with c j Uzama, 10 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 1: who reveals who came up with the nickname Joey Franchise 11 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 1: for Joe Burrow. Dave Lapham joins me to look at 12 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 1: some of the key matchups on Saturday and did our 13 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 1: know the faux segment, we'll hear from Charles Davis from 14 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 1: CBS Sports, who called five Raiders games on TV this year, 15 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 1: including the Bengals Raiders game in Week eleven. 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It's the greatest thing since 22 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 1: Peyton Manning breaking down video of Joe Burrow, the former 23 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 1: Colton Broncos quarterback, host a show for ESPN Plus called 24 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 1: Detail where he does a deep dive into quarterback play, 25 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:37,480 Speaker 1: and Manning recently did a twenty five minute segment looking 26 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 1: at Joe Burrow's performance against San Francisco. It's tremendous, not 27 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 1: only explaining many of the traits that make Burrow great, 28 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:49,800 Speaker 1: but also highlighting the play design and play calling expertise 29 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 1: of Zach Taylor and Brian Callahan. You need an ESPN 30 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 1: Plus subscription to watch it, but between that show and 31 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 1: NFL Turning Point and Tom Brady's Man in the Arena, 32 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 1: I think the cost is well worth it. Now let's 33 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 1: get to my guests, beginning with a TV host who 34 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 1: has become very popular among Bengals fans. She is one 35 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:16,799 Speaker 1: of the hosts of my favorite football show on TV, 36 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 1: and she made an exceptional ruler of the Jungle at 37 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 1: Paul Brown Stadium several weeks ago. The NFL networks k 38 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 1: Adams k way back in July, you called it, you 39 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:32,360 Speaker 1: predicted that the Bengals would be a playoff team this year. 40 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 1: What did you see that so many others missed? I 41 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:38,800 Speaker 1: think what I saw two album. I'm just gonna be 42 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 1: completely honest with you. It was people not picking the Bengals, 43 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 1: and for no reason. It was very strange that they 44 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:49,800 Speaker 1: were getting Nola. They have the quarterback, they have the 45 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 1: wide receiver, they're bringing chemistry in Trey Hendrickson was assigning 46 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:56,799 Speaker 1: that I loved because I've studied the Saints very closely 47 00:02:56,880 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 1: last year and loved when he did there. And just 48 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 1: about Joe Burrow just sort of won me over the 49 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 1: fact that he is cool under pressure. I didn't follow 50 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:08,239 Speaker 1: his career at LSU college football. I don't have a 51 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 1: room in my heart for it as much as most 52 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 1: fans do. So really just through the draft process, we 53 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 1: handled himself. Post game, they had what it takes in 54 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 1: the recipes. It was definitely the cj Uzama Why not them? 55 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 1: And then I really loved the fan base because I 56 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 1: think the fan base is smart. They're hungry, but they're 57 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 1: not whiny, and I think this is a fan base 58 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:33,639 Speaker 1: that is really riveted and enthusiastic and enjoying the moment, 59 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 1: and I hope it works out. So Joe Burrow and 60 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 1: Jamar Chase are getting a lot of the credit, and 61 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 1: deservedly so. They've been fantastic. But what about this team 62 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 1: do you think might be flying under the radar a 63 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 1: little bit? I mean, I'm just gonna go back to 64 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 1: Trey Hendrickson because this was someone who had double digit 65 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 1: sacks with the Saints, and there is a lot the 66 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 1: narrative nationally was, Oh, that's because he's with Cam Jordan, 67 00:03:56,960 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 1: that's because he's you know, it's the Jajavian Clowney to 68 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 1: TJ wat effect or whatever it is, or a one 69 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 1: year one theer stack numbers can be misleading all of that, 70 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 1: and then you look at what he did. What a streak, 71 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 1: what pressure, what disruption he's putting on the opposing offenses. 72 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 1: It is so fun to watch and tremendous, and that's necessary, 73 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 1: especially this battle this weekend. I'm you know, if I 74 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:20,920 Speaker 1: had to worry about the Bengals, it would of course 75 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 1: be protecting Joe, which we'll get into. But I just 76 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:26,599 Speaker 1: think he's been such a force and he's been so great, 77 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 1: and he needs to get more national love. We're visiting 78 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 1: with Kay Adams from Good Morning Football. So a few 79 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 1: weeks ago you did a one on one interview with 80 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 1: Jamar Chase whenever you're Q and K interviews. What stood 81 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 1: out in that conversation, what really caught your ear? I appreciated, 82 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 1: you know, I love interviewing rookies because they're still honest, right, 83 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 1: they're not as they haven't gone through the media training 84 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 1: as much as veteran players have, so they say a 85 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 1: little bit more. And I really I thought he was 86 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:01,840 Speaker 1: very genuine. I really they appreciated that he is honest 87 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 1: about wanting things for himself and for his team, and 88 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 1: that's okay. Players are usually I don't want the records. 89 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:10,600 Speaker 1: I just want team wins. That's the company line. But 90 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:12,799 Speaker 1: I think he wants it all and I could feel 91 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:15,359 Speaker 1: the confidence he has that he can have it. We 92 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:19,720 Speaker 1: talked a lot about his, of course development with his quarterback, 93 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 1: that chemistry, how much they add lib out there, and 94 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:25,479 Speaker 1: he said that Joe Burrow holds him accountable. If they're 95 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:27,720 Speaker 1: not communicating, he'll run to him and he'll say Joe, 96 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 1: what am I doing? And Joe will let him have 97 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 1: it and let him go and I liked it that 98 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:34,239 Speaker 1: he said that communication is still something that they're working 99 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 1: on week in, week out. I thought that was impressive. 100 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 1: They're not complacent. They're not you know, we've been here, 101 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 1: we've done this, We've won a national championship where you know, 102 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 1: we're just skating and getting paid here in the NFL. 103 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 1: It means something to him, which I love. And the 104 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 1: craziest thing he told me, which I stopped the interview, 105 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 1: he told me that I haven't seen a good catch. 106 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 1: He basically said, I said, what have it? I've said, 107 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 1: you're doing all this crazy stuff yards after catch, You're 108 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 1: speedy're amazing. And this is before, of course his monster performance. 109 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 1: But he said, he's like, I just I got to 110 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 1: get to that like Tyler Boyd level. I need to 111 00:06:07,240 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 1: get to these like you know Odell kind of catches. 112 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 1: And I'm like, there's more, there's more to the show. 113 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:14,920 Speaker 1: Sign me up. I can't wait. He is setting the 114 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:17,839 Speaker 1: bar really, really high, that's for sure. Was there a 115 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:21,920 Speaker 1: point this year where the Bengals went from fun, exciting, 116 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 1: entertaining team to being a legitimate contender In your opinion, 117 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:29,359 Speaker 1: that went over the Chiefs absolutely sealed the deal. You know, 118 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 1: I always take the temperature on before games. What is 119 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 1: this game going to do to change how I feel? 120 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:37,719 Speaker 1: That was a big whopping win that said, hey, we're 121 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:40,479 Speaker 1: not here, We're not a one hit wonder. The problem 122 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:44,920 Speaker 1: with sports media in the NFL and covering it, it's 123 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 1: a lazy take that the narrative can't change. The narrative changes. 124 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 1: The Rams get rid of Fisher, they bring in Sean McVay, 125 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 1: they get their quarterback in Jared Goff now Matthew Stafford, 126 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 1: and the entire complexion of the franchise changes. There's ups 127 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 1: and there's down downs, and the Bengals are just they're 128 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:06,599 Speaker 1: on their way up. So the Bengals are AFC North champs. 129 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 1: The next hurdle is to win a playoff game. What 130 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 1: are a couple of keys in your opinion, to knocking 131 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 1: off the Raiders on Saturday. So the way I look 132 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 1: at this is that they're both inexperienced teams, both quarterbacks, 133 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 1: Both teams have equal pressure to deliver wins to their 134 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 1: respective fan bases who are expecting them, excited for them, 135 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 1: riveted by them. I'm sure it's what you guys have 136 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 1: been talking about week in, week out. Me, these two 137 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 1: teams faced each other, Joe mix in the huge part 138 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 1: of that game plan. Max Crosby is terrifying. And I 139 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 1: know if you look at the staff numbers, they weren't 140 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 1: there against Joe Burrowing company. But he was everywhere. I 141 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 1: went back when we were watching the game a couple 142 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 1: of days ago, because I'm a sick pup who's watching 143 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 1: the game time and he but his pressure was everywhere. 144 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 1: He's incredible. I mean eight sacks this season, Yannick and Goquay. 145 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 1: He was a monster and a problem for Burrow because 146 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 1: of Max Crosby's presence. I've spoken to Yannik and Gokway 147 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 1: about how they work in tandem and how they're one 148 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 1: of the past best pass rushing duo. So it's it's 149 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 1: trite and it's the usual Bromoken record, but can you 150 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 1: protect your quarterback? I don't want to see that nameplate 151 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 1: flying if it flies where I think that, I just 152 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 1: don't want to see that. So you know, disruption is 153 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 1: production and those are two of the better ones to 154 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 1: do it. But and remember and Goqua has been to 155 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 1: this dance. Twenty seventeen, Jags went to the AFC Championship 156 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:32,320 Speaker 1: game had a tremendous season down there with Jacksonville, so 157 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 1: he's been there and bring some experience to it too, 158 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 1: So can you protect him? And I'll say the other thing, 159 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 1: crowd noise. You heard your coach talk about it. I 160 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:42,320 Speaker 1: was there, I had the time of my life. And 161 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 1: since I think everyone in the world knows I had 162 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 1: the time of my life in Cincinnati, it has to 163 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 1: be that same energy. I can't tell you how many 164 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:51,320 Speaker 1: NFL players I've talked to over the years and I say, 165 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 1: talk to it like I don't believe in home field, 166 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 1: like tell like why should I care? And a lot 167 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 1: of them say that they can feel nervousness, they can 168 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 1: feel every pension they can, if not just decibel levels 169 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 1: that people are that you know, players are picking up on. 170 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 1: I thought that was so interesting, and a lot of 171 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:10,079 Speaker 1: guys have said this. So I need the Bengals fan 172 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 1: base to show up. Don't give your tickets to the 173 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:15,440 Speaker 1: Raiders because they travel and they will come in there 174 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 1: and try to invade and make it not cute, and 175 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 1: I don't want to see that. But I think that 176 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 1: there's a level of when things cross out like inexperience 177 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 1: and you know, across the board, firepower or whatever momentum. 178 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 1: They both have it on both sides. Things like that 179 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 1: really matter. It's going from playing indoors in Vegas to 180 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 1: playing outside in Cincinnati where I have to like have 181 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:37,320 Speaker 1: electric can ormers and forty degree weather. I don't even 182 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 1: know if the conditions will be I notall be cold, 183 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 1: crowd noise is going to be huge, but also maintaining 184 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:45,200 Speaker 1: just the support the supportive vibe I would say to 185 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:46,840 Speaker 1: put out there. It sounds kind of cheesy, but I 186 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 1: think there's something to it. All right, Bengals fans, you 187 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:52,560 Speaker 1: heard it from K. Bring the noise, be supportive for 188 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:55,840 Speaker 1: all sixteen minutes. That's important in a playoff game final 189 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 1: follow up for k Adams from Good Morning Football, you 190 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 1: mentioned you had the time of your life you came here. 191 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:03,680 Speaker 1: What were the highlights of your ruler of the jungle 192 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 1: visit and how can we persuade you to come back? Oh? 193 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 1: I'll come back, And I mean I bother Seth Tanner 194 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 1: like every other day, like I miss Blackburn, I would 195 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 1: gladly come back and hang out with you. Elizabeth Is, 196 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:21,439 Speaker 1: She'll have her time on Good Morning Football where I 197 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 1: explain from my vantage point, what she has meant to 198 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:27,840 Speaker 1: that organization and what she has done to improve the 199 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 1: fan experience and just to open things up a little bit. 200 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 1: I loved meeting her. One of the people I probably 201 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 1: loved meeting in the past year the most. Meeting Marissa 202 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:40,840 Speaker 1: was incredible as well, and for just very passionate fans. 203 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:47,079 Speaker 1: Greater's ice cream was delicious. I tried at the Blackburn's tailgate. 204 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 1: I tried some chili. I thought I ate it all. 205 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:51,959 Speaker 1: I thought it was great. I think it's just the enter. 206 00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 1: It's just excitement. But it's not like entitled excitement. It's 207 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 1: it's not shoved in your face. We have this. It's 208 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:02,439 Speaker 1: not me. It's just excited. And I just felt at 209 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:05,080 Speaker 1: home there and I was so welcome. You fit right in. 210 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:07,679 Speaker 1: It was great having you in town. We look forward 211 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 1: to your return and we appreciate your time today. Thank you, Kay, 212 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:15,200 Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Good luck Up next this week's 213 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 1: one on one player conversation. There are only four current 214 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 1: players who were on the team the last time the 215 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 1: Bengals were in the playoffs in twenty fifteen. Kevin Hubert, Clark, 216 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:27,720 Speaker 1: Harris Trey Hopkins, who was on the practice squad at 217 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 1: bad time and tight end c J Uzama, who was 218 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:34,320 Speaker 1: a fifth round draft pick that year. I spoke to 219 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:38,559 Speaker 1: CJ this week. CJ and your rookie year. The Bengals 220 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 1: started eight no and went to the playoffs, and it's 221 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:45,080 Speaker 1: taken you six years to get back. What does this 222 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:49,840 Speaker 1: playoff trip mean to you? Personally means everything? You know. 223 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 1: After the game against Kansas City, I got briefly got 224 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 1: pretty emotional just thinking about how tough it's been. You know, 225 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 1: that's what you fight for, that's why you play, That's 226 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 1: why you go through what you go through during seasons, 227 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 1: and you know, just for an opportunity. You know, you 228 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 1: want to get into the playoffs. You want to have 229 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 1: an opportunity um in January and February to win a 230 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:15,440 Speaker 1: Super Bowl. So man, it it means the world. It 231 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 1: means the world to me. It means the world to 232 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 1: this team to be able to m have that opportunity 233 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:21,719 Speaker 1: to go out there, put our best foot forward and 234 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 1: you know, achieve everything that we wanted to achieve since 235 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:27,440 Speaker 1: the side of the season. Back in August, at the 236 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 1: beginning of training camp, you famously said why not us 237 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 1: A Senate could have responded with because you guys only 238 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 1: won four games last year. But what did you see 239 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 1: at that early stage that made you think this team 240 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:45,559 Speaker 1: was legit? I mean, just the talent we have. And 241 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 1: and like you said, when when I say that, a 242 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:49,680 Speaker 1: senate can look and say, Okay, well yeah, but you 243 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:51,440 Speaker 1: guys are young, you have this, you have this, but 244 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 1: but and just say a bunch of different things. But 245 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:55,319 Speaker 1: you know, the way that I saw it, the way 246 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:57,720 Speaker 1: that I saw the pieces that we added, the way 247 00:12:57,760 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 1: that I saw you know, the new guys come in, 248 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 1: the way that I saw us just vibing and clicking 249 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 1: as a team. Um, and the potential that we had. 250 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 1: I was like, I mean everyone's gonna say there's gonna 251 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:09,439 Speaker 1: be daughters for sure. Um, there's gonna be hiccups, there's 252 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 1: gonna be bumps in the road. But why can't we 253 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 1: go out there and prove all these people wrong? You know, 254 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 1: we know what we have in this locker room and 255 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 1: outside noises just that. So um yeah, that's kind of 256 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 1: uh what when what my thought process was? And um, 257 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 1: it's kind of holding true. Right now we're chatting with 258 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:29,680 Speaker 1: c j Uzama. You've become the guy who leads the 259 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 1: hood date chat in the locker room after wins. How 260 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 1: did that happen? And do you consider it a position 261 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 1: of honor? Oh? For sure, I think it's awesome. Um, 262 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:42,079 Speaker 1: I think it's amazing. You know, after after a win, 263 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:43,840 Speaker 1: I get to go out there and lead the team. 264 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 1: And man, uh after the first win, UM coach just said, 265 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 1: I see j come on lead us in there. I 266 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 1: was like, okay, I'll been. Uh yeah. I think to me, 267 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 1: it's it's awesome to be able to to you know, 268 00:13:58,280 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 1: if I have a few words to say to the boys, 269 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 1: I can Sam and Um break it down and UM 270 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:04,960 Speaker 1: see the boys kind of hype me up when I 271 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 1: get up there. It's it's also I think, yeah, I 272 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:09,679 Speaker 1: think it's a position of bonafa shure. I'm elated that 273 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 1: I get to do that this year. So you faced 274 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:15,840 Speaker 1: the Raiders on Saturday, a team with great edge rushers 275 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 1: and Max Crosby who leads the NFL with one hundred 276 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 1: quarterback pressures that's fourteen more than anybody else and unique 277 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 1: in gok Way who has ten sacks. Do you go 278 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 1: into the game thinking we can't let those guys wreck 279 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 1: the game. As as you go into a game like this, 280 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 1: you you know who they're who their key guys are. 281 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 1: You know what they're trying to do to get those 282 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:41,360 Speaker 1: guys freed up and put in favorable positions and um, 283 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 1: and then you got someone like Denzel Perriman in the back, 284 00:14:43,880 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 1: you know as a linebacker, who you're like, Okay, well 285 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 1: we have to account for this guy too, and and 286 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 1: you know they have they have secondary of guys that 287 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 1: just fly around the ball. So yeah, obviously you're you're 288 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 1: going into it thinking okay, nice, like we we know 289 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 1: what the what they present and we're gonna have to 290 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 1: handle and adjust are lee or um, you know, try 291 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 1: to try to be able to attack certain areas. Um. 292 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 1: But yeah, you you definitely don't want those those guys 293 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 1: on the edge getting getting going early, getting there, you know, 294 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 1: hearing their energy going and and thinking they're just kind 295 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 1: of a field day out there. So um, we got 296 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 1: to get after them and the defense very very early 297 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:23,480 Speaker 1: and very quickly. I know, you respect guys that excel 298 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 1: at your position. What makes Darren Waller one of the 299 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 1: best man. Uh, the respect I have to for him 300 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 1: has grown exponentially. Um, you know, especially after hearing his 301 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 1: story at tight end, you and um getting just spent 302 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 1: some time with him and talking football with him and 303 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 1: then just talking life with him. I have the utmost 304 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 1: respect for him. Um, but him as a player, he's 305 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 1: a I mean, he's a dinosaur, you know, he's he's 306 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 1: one of those guys where it's like they don't they 307 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 1: don't really they don't make him like that too alt 308 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 1: and um, and it's just i mean just his speed, 309 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 1: the way that he sees the game, the way that 310 00:15:57,520 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 1: he can he can dissect defenses and and you know, 311 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 1: picking his brain about how he runs routes against certain coverages. 312 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 1: It's it's it's unique. You know, he's able to attack 313 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 1: leverages and and find openings and if there's not really 314 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 1: that big of an opening, he's he's a dinosaur, so 315 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 1: he can go make a play. So, um yeah, as 316 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 1: a player, he's he's he's pretty unique. We're chatting with 317 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 1: cjus when you're in the huddle with Joe Burrow on Saturday, 318 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 1: Well you be able to tell by his demeanor that 319 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 1: it's a playoff game. No, No, I don't think so. 320 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 1: I don't think. I think that's something that's Um, that's 321 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 1: kind of unique about the team is we don't really 322 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 1: let the moment get too big. We know what's at stake, 323 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 1: we know what we have to get done. I mean, 324 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 1: we knew what happened, and for the Kansas City game, 325 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 1: we knew it was on the line for that right, 326 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 1: and we just go out there and when we're in 327 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 1: the huddle, we're just I mean, we're the boys out 328 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 1: there just having a good time and um making place. 329 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 1: And that's what you want. You don't want someone. You 330 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 1: don't want to look around and see someone who's kind 331 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 1: of like, oh, dear in the headlights are oh this 332 00:16:58,360 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 1: is this is a huge moment. You don't want the 333 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 1: moment to be to be too big for someone. And um, 334 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 1: I don't think we have that in our in our huddle, 335 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:06,640 Speaker 1: we just have a bunch of guys who are like nice, 336 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 1: Like when my numbers called, if Joe throws me the ball, 337 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 1: if Joe hands off the ball, if we have to 338 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 1: make this block, we're gonna make the block. That's just 339 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:16,200 Speaker 1: that's how it is, um, And that's that's it makes 340 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:18,560 Speaker 1: it fun, you know, it makes being him a huddle 341 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:22,959 Speaker 1: and playing that much more fun. So yeah, I don't think, uh, 342 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:26,919 Speaker 1: I don't think there's gonna be like a nerve factor 343 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 1: going on. You're the first person that I remember that 344 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 1: referred to him as Joey Franchise. Did you coin the nickname? 345 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:39,080 Speaker 1: I would be honest, Uh, it was. It was James 346 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 1: Casey but said it the first time, and I was like, franchise, 347 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:45,160 Speaker 1: that's such a that money. So I'd say the Tide 348 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 1: Ending Room coin that because I hadn't heard anybody say 349 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:50,919 Speaker 1: it until then. Um, and then we just started saying it. 350 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:52,639 Speaker 1: It was just something that the tidden't started saying, and 351 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 1: then it started picking up. So I'm gonna I'm gonna 352 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:56,400 Speaker 1: give the credit where credits to do with Coach Casey, 353 00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 1: even though he's gonna be like I don't want the credit. Um, 354 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:02,439 Speaker 1: but the tight ends. The tight ends for sure, and 355 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 1: probably me in particular afterwards, because I was just like 356 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 1: Joey Franchise, joe in his in in my phone, his 357 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 1: name is Joey Franchise and it's it's bad because I 358 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:14,119 Speaker 1: tried to text him. I try to type in Burrow 359 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:16,920 Speaker 1: and I was like, where is his name? I can't 360 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 1: fund it And I had to text him and be like, dude, 361 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:20,359 Speaker 1: I got to change your name in my phone because 362 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:23,400 Speaker 1: it's under franchise and I'm gonna forget that every time. 363 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:26,720 Speaker 1: So um but yeah, that's that's where that came about. 364 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:29,359 Speaker 1: That is the greatest nugget of all time. He is 365 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:32,119 Speaker 1: Joey franchise in your phone. That's great, all right, the 366 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:34,720 Speaker 1: last thing we know at this time of the year 367 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 1: that your body probably doesn't feel great. Was it like 368 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 1: an unexpected bonus to be able to get the final 369 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 1: game of the regular season off to prepare for this. 370 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:49,400 Speaker 1: I mean, how great was that? Though? Kind of right 371 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:52,359 Speaker 1: like that was you know, it's it's uh. I had 372 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:55,119 Speaker 1: mixed emotions kind of as well, to be completely honest, 373 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 1: because I really wanted to play against the Browns, and 374 00:18:57,960 --> 00:19:01,439 Speaker 1: you know that that was, Um, it was funny to 375 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 1: me and kind of um ironic that the hotel room 376 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 1: that I had was the same hotel room that I 377 00:19:07,080 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 1: had last year. The you know, I went over to 378 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 1: the spot where I told my achilles last year, and 379 00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:12,160 Speaker 1: I was like, dang, like it would be it would 380 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:14,920 Speaker 1: be kind of nice to be able to play and um, 381 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 1: kind of like self fulfilling to to be able to 382 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 1: play on this field again. But I'm not going to complain, 383 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:23,240 Speaker 1: like I feel like I feel so much better taking 384 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:25,480 Speaker 1: you know, getting some time off, getting getting a chance 385 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 1: to rest and not go through a full game. Um, 386 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:30,120 Speaker 1: you know, talking to the other time and talking talking 387 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:33,120 Speaker 1: to Mitch. Mitch was like, man, I'm feeling this right now, 388 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:35,440 Speaker 1: Like that was his first time and since preseason where 389 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:38,919 Speaker 1: he was banging the entire game. So um yeah, definitely was. 390 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:41,200 Speaker 1: It was a nice Uh, it was a nice treat 391 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:43,480 Speaker 1: for sure to get that one off. I hope you 392 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:46,159 Speaker 1: are leading a who Day chant Saturday night after a 393 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:49,439 Speaker 1: playoff victory over the Raiders. Congrats, had a great season 394 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:52,240 Speaker 1: to date, best of luck in round one. Thank you 395 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:55,959 Speaker 1: very much, appreciate it. How great is it that CJ 396 00:19:56,200 --> 00:20:00,159 Speaker 1: has Joe Burrows phone number stored under Joey franchise on 397 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 1: his cell phone. 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The Bengals won at Baltimore 403 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 1: this year by twenty four points, then won the rematch 404 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:30,440 Speaker 1: at home by twenty they wanted Pittsburgh by fourteen, then 405 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 1: won the rematch at Paul Brown Stadium by thirty one. 406 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 1: Now they faced the Raiders, a team they beat in 407 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 1: Las Vegas thirty two to thirteen. In late November. I 408 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 1: discussed the upcoming rematch with my broadcast partner Dave Lapham Lap. 409 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:49,200 Speaker 1: I want to start with something that I don't think 410 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:51,720 Speaker 1: is getting enough attention, and that is the fact that 411 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 1: Quentin Spain has been a full participant at practice this week. 412 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:58,480 Speaker 1: He's a gigantic man who was taken to the locker 413 00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:01,400 Speaker 1: room on a cart less than two weeks ago. What 414 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:04,879 Speaker 1: does his now it appears likely return mean to the 415 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:08,959 Speaker 1: team Huge presence, you know literally in figuratively, I mean 416 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 1: he is a massive human being, big broad shoulders and 417 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 1: just very strong, strong hands and risks and quems vice 418 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 1: gript kind of guy and very high football IQ, real, 419 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:25,960 Speaker 1: real smart. Nothing fools him out in the football field. 420 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:30,920 Speaker 1: He's seen every defensive configuration, every blitz package. I think 421 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 1: he's a calming influence out there for the young players 422 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 1: as well as a physical presence that I know. I know, 423 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 1: for example, Joe Mixon's happy that he's gonna be playing 424 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 1: in this football game, and uh, it's QUSA. He's a 425 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:48,879 Speaker 1: tough guy and not surprised that he's he's going to 426 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 1: give it a go. And the thing is, though, with 427 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:54,919 Speaker 1: those ankle injuries, you just never know, I mean, you 428 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 1: just turn wrong, you're in a pile the wrong way, 429 00:21:57,359 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 1: and sometimes they can they can exascerbate themselves pretty quickly. 430 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 1: So Jackson Carman still better be ready. And the fact 431 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 1: that he's gotten the snaps that he's gotten and performed 432 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:11,800 Speaker 1: well for the most part with a lot of those snaps, 433 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:14,640 Speaker 1: I think he's an encouraging thing. They've already got two 434 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 1: inexperienced guys in the starting line up the offensive line 435 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:22,119 Speaker 1: in Isaiah Prince and acam Identagy. Not having three to me, 436 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:24,480 Speaker 1: it seems like a pretty big deal. I agree. And 437 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:26,440 Speaker 1: I'll tell you another guy that I thought looked pretty 438 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:29,679 Speaker 1: darn good out there at left tackling. I'm wondering if 439 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 1: you can play right tackle. Deante Smith played well. I 440 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 1: mean that guy, he's got really good feat he's got length, 441 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:39,720 Speaker 1: he's got good hands. I mean he got hurt at 442 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:41,880 Speaker 1: the wrong time, unfortunately for him, because he was making 443 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:43,920 Speaker 1: a move he was. He was the guy. I think 444 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:47,399 Speaker 1: that Frank Pollock, he was on a fast track to 445 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:50,440 Speaker 1: get some snaps and get some playing time. But injuries 446 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:52,760 Speaker 1: can curtail those kind of things, and it did unfortunately 447 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:56,960 Speaker 1: for Deante. But I think he's he's back physically and 448 00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 1: now can he catch up with everything. You know, you 449 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 1: missed so many reps. You missed the mental part of 450 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 1: it as well as the physical part of it. You 451 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:07,360 Speaker 1: can keep up with the mental part of it obviously easier, 452 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 1: but there's nothing like being out in the field from 453 00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 1: a mental standpoint. You know, you think you have it 454 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:14,960 Speaker 1: figured out. When you're out there and it's full, full 455 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:18,360 Speaker 1: tilt and live bullets, sometimes it looks a lot different. 456 00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 1: All right, Let's stick with Bengals offensive line versus Raiders 457 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:25,400 Speaker 1: defensive line. In this playoff game, Max Crosby has eight 458 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 1: sacks and more than one hundred quarterback pressures. He leads 459 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 1: the NFL unique and Ghakway has ten sacks. They are 460 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:36,199 Speaker 1: going to be missing an excellent defensive tackle. Darius Filon 461 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:39,239 Speaker 1: suffered an injury in that finale against the Chargers, so 462 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:42,879 Speaker 1: he is definitely out. Do you look at Bengals offensive 463 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 1: line versus Raiders defensive line as the biggest matchup question 464 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:50,160 Speaker 1: in this game. I look at it as a huge one, 465 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:54,440 Speaker 1: There's no question about it. I think honestly both lines 466 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:57,920 Speaker 1: of scrimmage. I think that the Raiders, in my opinion, 467 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:01,359 Speaker 1: have one really good player in Colton Miller. Everybody else 468 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 1: just guys. And I'm sure that's what the Raiders think 469 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:08,640 Speaker 1: about the Cincinnati Bengals offensive line, just guys. So will 470 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 1: there respective defensive fronts to be able to take advantage? 471 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:18,119 Speaker 1: And I'm looking at the matchup of the interior pass 472 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:22,120 Speaker 1: rushers that the Bengals have, the Ogan Jovies, J Hill, 473 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:25,880 Speaker 1: DJ Reader too getting pushed. I'm looking at them against 474 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 1: those guards. I think the guards of the weak links 475 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:30,639 Speaker 1: of the offensive line, and I would think Lou and 476 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:33,720 Speaker 1: Rumo and company would have some pressure packages that would 477 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:37,480 Speaker 1: test and put those guards in conflict a little bit, 478 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 1: walking linebackers up in gaps and twisting and studying and 479 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:43,200 Speaker 1: things of that nature. So I'm looking at that, and 480 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:46,120 Speaker 1: I'm also looking at, like you said, Dan, the flip 481 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:48,560 Speaker 1: side of it, the Bengals offensive line. Will they be 482 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 1: able to handle those bookends, I mean Crosby and Gookway. 483 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 1: That's a duel. I mean, that's a very very that's 484 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 1: eighteen sacks combined from the two of those guys. In 485 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 1: my mind, there's a million things you can do. You know, 486 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 1: you can keep a tight end in, you can chip, 487 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 1: you can slide the line. But quarterbacks has got to 488 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:10,440 Speaker 1: get the ball out of his hand quickly. I think 489 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:12,600 Speaker 1: that's another thing that you incorporate in the game plan 490 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 1: and don't forget about draws and screens. That's that It's 491 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:20,639 Speaker 1: forever tested. Paul Brown, he would he would patrol the 492 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 1: sideline and he'd be like, time for the draw. He'd say, 493 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:26,000 Speaker 1: he'd say to the play called time for the draw, 494 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:28,359 Speaker 1: because he could tell the pass rushers are just team 495 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:30,679 Speaker 1: and the draw would break bust for big yards. You know, 496 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:33,480 Speaker 1: he invented it. He invented the draw play with Marion 497 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:37,720 Speaker 1: Motley up there with the Cleveland Browns by accident. So 498 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:40,720 Speaker 1: I think draws and screens are gonna be a big, 499 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 1: big factor. The Kansas City Chiefs hurt him badly with 500 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 1: the screen game, throwing that screen game behind the pass rush. 501 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 1: So there's a myriad of ways that you can slow 502 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:52,439 Speaker 1: that pass rush down, and the other way to do 503 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 1: it get Joe Mixon going. I mean they finished that game. 504 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:58,639 Speaker 1: Grind and Joe Mixon in the second half nineteen carries 505 00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 1: for over one hundred yards in a touch. Get big 506 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:05,119 Speaker 1: twenty eight running inside outside, Get him just hammering that 507 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:08,520 Speaker 1: defensive football team and anchor them a little bit. Following 508 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:10,680 Speaker 1: up on that, thirty carries for one hundred and twenty 509 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:12,960 Speaker 1: three yards total in the first meeting, and Joe Burrow 510 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 1: only threw for one hundred and forty eight yards. That's 511 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 1: the fewest he's ever had in his twenty six NFL starts. 512 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:23,679 Speaker 1: So do you expect a similar formula on Saturday. I do, 513 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:26,240 Speaker 1: because you know, I think Gus Bradley is going to 514 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 1: do the same thing. Gus Bradley, he does not load 515 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:33,679 Speaker 1: the box. He plays coverage. He has four guys and 516 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:35,960 Speaker 1: he can rely on to rush the passer in his mind. 517 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:38,480 Speaker 1: Now with injury, he might not have all four of 518 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:41,879 Speaker 1: those guys with the interior injury at defensive tackle, but 519 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 1: I think he's still he's gonna he's gonna make sure 520 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:48,160 Speaker 1: that Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase don't throw it over 521 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:50,720 Speaker 1: their heads. You know that te Higgins doesn't throw it 522 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:53,160 Speaker 1: over the heads with Joe Burrow. I think they're gonna 523 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:55,879 Speaker 1: do play a lot of that cover three. And you 524 00:26:55,920 --> 00:27:01,159 Speaker 1: know what he does. I think his biggest act is 525 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:04,360 Speaker 1: he gets guys to just really play hard for him, 526 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:08,720 Speaker 1: high energy, high enthusiasm, you know. I mean, they're they're 527 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 1: just effort guys defensively, and he doesn't overload their minds. 528 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 1: I mean, he keeps it real simple and they can 529 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 1: play fast and they know his system cold. I think 530 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:21,480 Speaker 1: now though, at this stage in the playoffs, another thing 531 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:24,720 Speaker 1: another Paul Brown is that applies and I remember he 532 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:26,159 Speaker 1: said it when we were in the playoffs for the 533 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:28,720 Speaker 1: first time in nineteen thirty five. I can vividly see 534 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:31,640 Speaker 1: him up there in the front of the classroom saying, gentlemen, 535 00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:35,160 Speaker 1: sometimes we have to make the same things look different 536 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:38,960 Speaker 1: and different things look the same. And that's exactly what 537 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:42,920 Speaker 1: you do. Now. You don't overhaul your systems. You tweak them. 538 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 1: And it might be it's the same throw to the quarterback, 539 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 1: but it might be instead of a slot receiver on 540 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:53,159 Speaker 1: a safety a by formation and window dressing him, might 541 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:55,919 Speaker 1: be a running back on a linebacker. Because you're, you know, 542 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:57,879 Speaker 1: you're you're putting your base people in there and you 543 00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 1: don't want sub packages in there. So the offense you 544 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:05,720 Speaker 1: can control it with personnel, with formations, with motion, with 545 00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 1: window dressing. So Paul Brown would be like, if we've 546 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:11,320 Speaker 1: got some concepts that have worked for us, worked for 547 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:14,720 Speaker 1: us in the first matchup. Sometimes you have to make 548 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 1: the same things look different and different things look the same. 549 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:21,320 Speaker 1: And I think the game, the team that game plans 550 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:24,439 Speaker 1: that way, and then most importantly, the players that go 551 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 1: out and execute best going to win the football game. 552 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 1: By the way, as I mentioned, Burrow through four hundred 553 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:32,480 Speaker 1: and forty eight yards in Game one, the fewest he's 554 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:36,360 Speaker 1: ever thrown four in an NFL game. His three lowest 555 00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 1: yardage figures ever all wins at Vegas, at Denver, at 556 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:44,760 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh this year. Let's talk about the other quarterback, Derek Carr. 557 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:46,960 Speaker 1: He was decent in Game one, two and fifteen yards, 558 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:50,200 Speaker 1: one touchdown, one pick. For the season fourteenth in the 559 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:54,040 Speaker 1: NFL and passer rating fifth in passing yards, one spot 560 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:56,360 Speaker 1: ahead of Joe Burrow. What do you consider to be 561 00:28:56,440 --> 00:29:00,880 Speaker 1: his strengths and his weaknesses. I think he has immense 562 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 1: arm talent. I think he can make every throw there 563 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 1: is to make. It's interesting, though, I heard Jack del 564 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:10,320 Speaker 1: Rio come out and say that he does not play 565 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:13,040 Speaker 1: well in cold weather, and that's his former head coach, 566 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 1: so he has experience with it. So that would that 567 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:16,920 Speaker 1: kind of pert my ears a little bit when I 568 00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 1: when I heard that, But I think, I think what 569 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:24,560 Speaker 1: he does is sometimes tries to force the issue. We 570 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:27,560 Speaker 1: have so much confidence in that arm talent. I mean, 571 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:32,520 Speaker 1: he'll take a chance here and there so that he'll 572 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 1: he'll put it up there for the defensive backs to intercept. 573 00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:38,920 Speaker 1: And when he does, you have to take full advantage 574 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:41,720 Speaker 1: of it. You can't let one slip through your hands. Literally, 575 00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 1: you have to catch the football when he gives you 576 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:47,120 Speaker 1: that kind of an opportunity. The other thing with him 577 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:51,440 Speaker 1: is if you hit him, he gets deeply affected. Every 578 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:54,320 Speaker 1: quarterback is affected by pressure and by his but his 579 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 1: is significant. I mean you can see him, you know, 580 00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:00,200 Speaker 1: reacting in a much different way as a quarter back 581 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:02,680 Speaker 1: after he's been smacked a couple of times. So that's 582 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:05,160 Speaker 1: going to be a big factor. If they can get 583 00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:08,959 Speaker 1: him off his spot and get hit him some and 584 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,080 Speaker 1: make him think about you have him see ghosts a 585 00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:14,080 Speaker 1: little bit. Ghosts in the pocket, goes down the football field, 586 00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:17,400 Speaker 1: have him see some of that stuff. I do think 587 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 1: that in this football game here lately he has done 588 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:23,840 Speaker 1: a great job of creating an extending plays and throwing 589 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:26,560 Speaker 1: up fifty fifty balls and they've either caught him or 590 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:29,720 Speaker 1: get pass interference penalties. So he's made some big plays 591 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:31,960 Speaker 1: that way. Joe Burrow can do the same thing. I 592 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,760 Speaker 1: think this game a big factor might hinge on which 593 00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:38,640 Speaker 1: quarterback is the most intelligent when they're creating and extending 594 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:41,880 Speaker 1: and not forcing but making, you know, making big plays 595 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,560 Speaker 1: down the football field and avoiding big mistakes down the 596 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:47,440 Speaker 1: football field. Let me follow up on the weather. The 597 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:50,160 Speaker 1: forecast for four to thirty on Saturday is in the 598 00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 1: high twenties. The current temperature in Las Vegas is in 599 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 1: the mid sixties. So how big of an advantage do 600 00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:59,040 Speaker 1: you think that is? I think it's I think it is. 601 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:02,280 Speaker 1: I think it's signific can um, I'm not sure that 602 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:05,400 Speaker 1: in the twenties for for linemen, that's not you know, 603 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:08,640 Speaker 1: that's not cruel and unusual punishment. I mean, you can 604 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:11,640 Speaker 1: handle that, um, But but I think for skill guys 605 00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 1: that that aren't used to that, that ball gets harder, 606 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:19,959 Speaker 1: it gets slicker. Like everybody talks about Um. You know, 607 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:22,880 Speaker 1: your hands or you know, can can get cold and 608 00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:24,960 Speaker 1: get numb a little bit, and you have a hard 609 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,560 Speaker 1: ball hitting those those cold hands, it's a it's a 610 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:30,440 Speaker 1: totally different feeling. And then in the in the ball, 611 00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 1: it feels like it's coated with resin, you know, when 612 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:35,800 Speaker 1: it's when it's cold like that. It's weird how how 613 00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:38,240 Speaker 1: the resin And I don't know why it migrates, but 614 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:41,080 Speaker 1: the resident seems to migrate to the surface of the football. 615 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:44,920 Speaker 1: It's crazy, Um, but I do think I think that's 616 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:46,920 Speaker 1: going to be a factor. And when you look at it, 617 00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:50,760 Speaker 1: that influences ball security, you know, I mean, and you 618 00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:53,040 Speaker 1: got to go high and tight big time when it's 619 00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:56,360 Speaker 1: cold like that, because if you get hit in cold 620 00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 1: weather sometimes, you know, if you're hitting sixty degree weather, 621 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:02,240 Speaker 1: you're gonna be able to grip that football a little 622 00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:04,320 Speaker 1: bit better than you will when it's in the twenties 623 00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:06,440 Speaker 1: and get hit like that, Like we talked about, the 624 00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:09,080 Speaker 1: ball's harder, it's slicker, Your hands are cold, your arms 625 00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:11,760 Speaker 1: are cold. It's a it's a much different dynamic that 626 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:13,040 Speaker 1: you've got to get used to that and you have 627 00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:14,600 Speaker 1: to get a get a feel for that, and if 628 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:16,720 Speaker 1: you practice in it all week, you have a little 629 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:19,360 Speaker 1: bit better feeling then if you haven't. So I think 630 00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:21,480 Speaker 1: all those things are going to be a factor. The 631 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:24,680 Speaker 1: one thing when I was researching the Raiders that stunned 632 00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:29,040 Speaker 1: me six interceptions was dead last in the NFL six 633 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:33,280 Speaker 1: interceptions in seventeen games. And they have a really good 634 00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:36,320 Speaker 1: front four you know, it's like, you know, they're getting 635 00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:38,680 Speaker 1: more than a couple of sacks a game. Why isn't 636 00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 1: that transferring into more interceptions? They just haven't taken the 637 00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:44,560 Speaker 1: football away very much. And it's because they haven't, you 638 00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:47,720 Speaker 1: intercepted the ball very much. So Joe Burrows on a 639 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:51,000 Speaker 1: stretch where he hasn't thrown an interception for a long time, 640 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,200 Speaker 1: one hundred and forty six passes. I think it is 641 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:56,840 Speaker 1: something like that. So hopefully that continues. And so far 642 00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:59,720 Speaker 1: they haven't shown much for a pensity to pick quarterbacks off. 643 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:02,920 Speaker 1: So a big storyline this week has obviously been the 644 00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,320 Speaker 1: playoff drought, and I think people have kind of looked 645 00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:08,280 Speaker 1: at it and said, these guys have nothing to do 646 00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:11,880 Speaker 1: with that long stretch of futility and shouldn't be affected 647 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:14,840 Speaker 1: by it. But when the Bengals take the field on 648 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:19,640 Speaker 1: Saturday and every Bengals fan in attendance is yearning to 649 00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:21,880 Speaker 1: end that streak. Do you think they'll feel it? Then 650 00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:27,920 Speaker 1: that's a great question. I hope the fan base. I 651 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,920 Speaker 1: hope they have a sense of virgin urgency to get 652 00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:34,960 Speaker 1: as loud as they possibly can. Because let's go back 653 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:37,680 Speaker 1: to the opener Dan the Minnesota game that the Bengals 654 00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:41,120 Speaker 1: won an overtime. Minnesota had multiple false starts because of 655 00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:44,000 Speaker 1: crowd noise playing a simple it was just flat out 656 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:48,720 Speaker 1: crowd noise. And we remember how loud it was we 657 00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,440 Speaker 1: were in Vegas playing the Raiders. That place was that 658 00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:54,640 Speaker 1: was off the hook. It was loud, man in that dome. 659 00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 1: They were going crazy. The Bengals handled it pretty well. 660 00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:02,240 Speaker 1: It's Tessa Raiders and everybody come to that game full throat, 661 00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:05,000 Speaker 1: loud and proud, and see when you can affect them 662 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,440 Speaker 1: a little bit. That's that's that's going to be a 663 00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:10,440 Speaker 1: big factor in this football game. So if the fans 664 00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:14,359 Speaker 1: are wondering how they can help make sure to end 665 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:18,000 Speaker 1: that streak that they're there, they've suffered through, do it 666 00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:24,120 Speaker 1: by vocal cords. So I'm feeling pretty confident going into 667 00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:26,440 Speaker 1: this game, and much of my confidence is rooted in 668 00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:29,560 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow, his track record in big games at his 669 00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:33,920 Speaker 1: personality in general. Do you think that his teammates have 670 00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:37,440 Speaker 1: that same feeling because of Joe, Yeah, I think he 671 00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:42,080 Speaker 1: I think they follow his lead. I think he just 672 00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:44,279 Speaker 1: rises to the occasion. I think he's one of those 673 00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:47,399 Speaker 1: kind of guys that big stage time to go out 674 00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:49,960 Speaker 1: and do your best. You know, don't shrink, shrink up 675 00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:52,160 Speaker 1: like a shrinking violet. You know, go out there and 676 00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:54,319 Speaker 1: be a star. Go out there and play. And that's 677 00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:57,080 Speaker 1: the big thing too. Joe did a great job of that. 678 00:34:57,120 --> 00:35:01,240 Speaker 1: The numbers you talked about his three career low yardage games, 679 00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:03,640 Speaker 1: they won the football game. You don't have to play 680 00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:06,160 Speaker 1: hero ball. Joe Burrow knows he doesn't have to play 681 00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:09,600 Speaker 1: hero ball. He understands that totally. Jamara has to understand 682 00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:12,200 Speaker 1: enough to play hero ball. Joe Mixon has to understand. 683 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:16,440 Speaker 1: Everybody has to understand. Do your job to the best 684 00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:19,359 Speaker 1: that you possibly can. Don't try to do anything more 685 00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:21,640 Speaker 1: than what you're supposed to do, but do what you're 686 00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:23,759 Speaker 1: supposed to do at the highest level you possibly can 687 00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:26,120 Speaker 1: do it, and then you're gonna win the football game, 688 00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:29,640 Speaker 1: and that's in the playoffs. That's that's as big a 689 00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:33,719 Speaker 1: factor as anything. Joe Burrow will be one of five 690 00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:37,960 Speaker 1: quarterbacks making his first playoffs start this weekend. The Bengals 691 00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:42,040 Speaker 1: will be facing another one in Derek Carr. Finally, it's 692 00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:45,000 Speaker 1: time for this week's No The Faux Segment. Charles Davis, 693 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:48,560 Speaker 1: who calls NFL games on CBS with Ian Eagle, was 694 00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:51,799 Speaker 1: in the booth for five Raiders games this year. He 695 00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:54,319 Speaker 1: joined Lap in Wayne box Miller and the Bengals Game 696 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:58,040 Speaker 1: Plan Show and started by sharing what he likes about 697 00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:02,000 Speaker 1: the twenty twenty one Bengals. I like that this team 698 00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:04,799 Speaker 1: has the air to it of we're just gonna do 699 00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:08,640 Speaker 1: what we do the past. Okay, you guys can talk 700 00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:10,960 Speaker 1: about it, but it's not going to define us. We're 701 00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:13,520 Speaker 1: gonna take care of our own business. And when they 702 00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:16,280 Speaker 1: had opportunities, you know, one of their breakthroughs was winning 703 00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:18,319 Speaker 1: three in a row? Right when was the last time? 704 00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:21,600 Speaker 1: Twenty fifteen? And that became a thing, didn't it. In fact, 705 00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:24,000 Speaker 1: we had it. We had the Chargers game, one of 706 00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:25,520 Speaker 1: the times they were going for three in a row 707 00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:28,239 Speaker 1: and didn't get there. And Zach Taylor really emphasized, hey, 708 00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:31,279 Speaker 1: let's get a breakthrough here, and it didn't happen. A 709 00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:33,080 Speaker 1: lot of teams would just go away on that, a 710 00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:35,319 Speaker 1: lot of teams would have more issues. They came back, 711 00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:37,800 Speaker 1: battled their way and when they finally broke through and 712 00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:41,760 Speaker 1: got three in a row Kansas City, that's a pretty 713 00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:43,960 Speaker 1: strong one to make it make your move on. So 714 00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:47,000 Speaker 1: I just like where this team is. And look, a 715 00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:51,040 Speaker 1: second year quarterback in the old days didn't really take 716 00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:54,120 Speaker 1: over a team. This young man took over the amenity 717 00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:57,400 Speaker 1: he got drafted and now they really reflect to who 718 00:36:57,440 --> 00:36:59,640 Speaker 1: he is. This is Joe Burrow kid. There's something really 719 00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:02,920 Speaker 1: special about him. And when we sit in production meetings 720 00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:04,279 Speaker 1: and all, he's not getting that. He doesn't have his 721 00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:06,440 Speaker 1: feed up on and telling us tales and all that. 722 00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:09,440 Speaker 1: He answers the question just fine, but you can tell 723 00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:13,600 Speaker 1: he's all about business. You're right, Charles Manne, dude is 724 00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:18,000 Speaker 1: laser focus, there's no question. And in today's National Football League, 725 00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:20,759 Speaker 1: you have to have a quarterback. And they've got the 726 00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:23,720 Speaker 1: youngest duo in the history of the National Football League 727 00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:26,560 Speaker 1: to have a thousand yards receiving in the same year 728 00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:30,000 Speaker 1: and his man, Jamar Chase who he worked with at LSU, 729 00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:33,600 Speaker 1: set a franchise record single season record fourteen hundred and 730 00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:36,560 Speaker 1: fifty five yards. It's only fourth best in the league 731 00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:39,080 Speaker 1: this year, even though it's a Bengals franchise record. That 732 00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:41,520 Speaker 1: tells you what the league's like. But you, as a 733 00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:45,439 Speaker 1: former defensive back and a good one, when you've got 734 00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:50,480 Speaker 1: guys like Chase Higgins, Boyd, what kind of conflict does 735 00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:55,200 Speaker 1: that cause you in the back end? Zama Mix? Yeah, 736 00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:58,840 Speaker 1: I mean, just going right, It causes all kinds of 737 00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:01,799 Speaker 1: conflict because if you want to kick coverage as a 738 00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:04,600 Speaker 1: certain direction, if you're doing things you're guessing, you know, 739 00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:08,320 Speaker 1: you're you're playing odds in a sense certain third downs. 740 00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:10,080 Speaker 1: If you think that they'd like to go to a 741 00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:12,080 Speaker 1: certain place on a third down, maybe you want to 742 00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:14,960 Speaker 1: double one of those guys. But they all, every one 743 00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:17,239 Speaker 1: of those guys can make you pay. That's the thing is. 744 00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:20,080 Speaker 1: It's not like you take away certain people and guess what, 745 00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:22,759 Speaker 1: the other guys aren't going to really sting you. You 746 00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:26,200 Speaker 1: take away Chase, Okay, we send all of our coverage there. 747 00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:28,319 Speaker 1: You really think Boyd and Higgins are going to light 748 00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:31,280 Speaker 1: you up? They are. They've proven it time and time again. 749 00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:34,160 Speaker 1: So with all those weapons, the plethora of things going on, 750 00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:37,319 Speaker 1: and an offensive line, it's probably playing a little bit 751 00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:39,080 Speaker 1: better than what you would you know, you would think 752 00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:41,400 Speaker 1: in terms of how they might have been rated coming 753 00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:44,480 Speaker 1: out where the talent level is all of that, you're 754 00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:47,680 Speaker 1: putting together a pretty powerful group. And I can't wait 755 00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:49,480 Speaker 1: to see them go at it on Saturday with the 756 00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:52,520 Speaker 1: Raiders because both of them have been through their stuff 757 00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:55,239 Speaker 1: this year and battled their way through the Bengals with 758 00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:58,919 Speaker 1: a division titled the Raiders with a really unlikely playoff birth. 759 00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,719 Speaker 1: Considering everything that's going on in Las Vegas this year, 760 00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:04,720 Speaker 1: no doubt, you know, Charles Davis is I guess Charles, 761 00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:07,279 Speaker 1: you watched a lot of football and talk about just 762 00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:10,480 Speaker 1: how impressive it is. You bring in Trey Hendrickson, you 763 00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:13,840 Speaker 1: bring in Von Bell, you know, you bring in a 764 00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:17,200 Speaker 1: lot of new guys chitabey E Woozier, and these guys 765 00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:19,880 Speaker 1: just seem to mess with the existing players. It's not 766 00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:24,359 Speaker 1: that easy. Although people may think that, right, Yeah, you're 767 00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:28,080 Speaker 1: exactly right. And I think what helps is that when 768 00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:30,960 Speaker 1: these guys come in, they weren't coming into a place 769 00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:35,160 Speaker 1: that it either had a ton of success or wasn't 770 00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:38,319 Speaker 1: ready to ascend to it. They came in because, like 771 00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:42,200 Speaker 1: Trey Henderson told us, he had a feeling about this place, 772 00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:44,680 Speaker 1: you know, spent the time he bought into Zach Taylor 773 00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:47,040 Speaker 1: was the last time you heard anyone around the league say, 774 00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:48,439 Speaker 1: you know what I wanted to send. I really bought 775 00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:52,680 Speaker 1: into their vision. Yeah, just don't hear that. So so 776 00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:55,040 Speaker 1: so when Trey Henderson is saying that, and as focus 777 00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:57,840 Speaker 1: as he is, it means something. And then you have 778 00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:00,239 Speaker 1: guys who have had success both in the lead to 779 00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:03,040 Speaker 1: in the pro level who have come over. Larry Ogan 780 00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:06,239 Speaker 1: job's out of Charlotte. Okay, so no one's thought about 781 00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:08,839 Speaker 1: his college success, but boys, he carved out a nice 782 00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:11,279 Speaker 1: niche in the NFL being a starter in Cleveland and 783 00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:14,480 Speaker 1: on a team that found its way into playoffs last year, 784 00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:17,799 Speaker 1: and he helped, you know, make successful. I think one 785 00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:20,440 Speaker 1: of the most underrated people on the staff is Marion Hobby. 786 00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:23,480 Speaker 1: Now there's a lot of buy ins here. Okay, Marion 787 00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:26,319 Speaker 1: and I played together at Tennessee, but he has won 788 00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:28,680 Speaker 1: heck of a good football coach, I mean, and what 789 00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:31,480 Speaker 1: he's done with that front. And you spend time with 790 00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:33,719 Speaker 1: Sam Hubbard, you spend time with Trey Hendrickson, you spend 791 00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:35,719 Speaker 1: time with Ogan Job, you spend time with any of 792 00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:39,120 Speaker 1: the guys there. They willingly talk about what he gives them. 793 00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:41,920 Speaker 1: And then I'm gonna leave you with this. Sam Hubbard 794 00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:45,919 Speaker 1: compared him to Larry Johnson, the quintessential defensive line coach 795 00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:49,479 Speaker 1: in college football Ohio State. And when an Ohio State 796 00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:52,839 Speaker 1: Buckeye compares another d line coach with Larry Johnson, who 797 00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:56,000 Speaker 1: is their godfather? Okay, the bosses go back in the 798 00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:59,239 Speaker 1: offseason and spend time with Larry Johnson. Okay, And that 799 00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:01,919 Speaker 1: if you want to know what it's all about. That's 800 00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:04,440 Speaker 1: how I praise and that defensive front. They've done some 801 00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:08,640 Speaker 1: work this year. Let me ask you a question about 802 00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:12,640 Speaker 1: the Raiders. How do the Raiders have ten wins and 803 00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:16,520 Speaker 1: seven losses when they were outscored by sixty five points. 804 00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:20,000 Speaker 1: They've they're the thirty first most penalized team in the league, 805 00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:23,960 Speaker 1: thirty second most penalty yards in the league. They've only 806 00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:28,040 Speaker 1: got six interceptions on the season, last in the National 807 00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:30,719 Speaker 1: Football League. They give up a touchdown defensively in the 808 00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:33,040 Speaker 1: red zone eighty one point four percent of the time, 809 00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:36,120 Speaker 1: last in the National Football League. But how the hell 810 00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:38,480 Speaker 1: had they won ten games? What do you think, Charles, 811 00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:43,799 Speaker 1: what's up with that? I don't know. Dave and our 812 00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:47,480 Speaker 1: crew has had the Raiders five times this year, really, 813 00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:50,880 Speaker 1: so we've seen them, and we've seen there's a toughness 814 00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:53,919 Speaker 1: to them, there's a resilience to them. We saw them 815 00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:56,440 Speaker 1: week two. Remember that Monday nighter that they had with 816 00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:59,440 Speaker 1: Baltimore that was still two. Jo Car hit to Day 817 00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:01,839 Speaker 1: Jones for a touchdown. They had to turn around short 818 00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:04,040 Speaker 1: week and go to Pittsburgh the next week. Remember Pittsburgh 819 00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:06,560 Speaker 1: could just beat Buffalo in the season opener, so they 820 00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:09,080 Speaker 1: were feeling pretty good about themselves. They went up there 821 00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:11,759 Speaker 1: and beat them on the road and got off to 822 00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:15,440 Speaker 1: that great start. Our crew was in town when the 823 00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:18,880 Speaker 1: John Gruden news broke. In fact, I was at practice 824 00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:21,320 Speaker 1: and John said, Hey, can I talk to you for 825 00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:23,439 Speaker 1: a minute, because I've known John for thirty five years, 826 00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:26,840 Speaker 1: and told me what was about to go down. And 827 00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:29,080 Speaker 1: that was the weekend they played the Bears, and the Bears, 828 00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:31,560 Speaker 1: who were not very good, went in there and beat 829 00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:35,560 Speaker 1: them because they were they were discombobulated. We were also there, 830 00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:39,560 Speaker 1: I believe right after Henry Ruggs. Okay, we were there 831 00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:42,520 Speaker 1: when Cincinnati took charge in the second half and ran 832 00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:45,520 Speaker 1: them into submission, when Joe Mixon and crew beat them 833 00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:47,640 Speaker 1: down because Zach Taylor said, if we just stayed with it, 834 00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:51,120 Speaker 1: they will crack, and they did. How they've gotten ten wins. 835 00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:54,000 Speaker 1: There's a lot of toughness. And Derek Carr is one 836 00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:57,520 Speaker 1: of the most underrated guys going in terms of fortitude. 837 00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:00,759 Speaker 1: He's a good player, all right, He probably doesn't get 838 00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:03,440 Speaker 1: his due that way, but that guy really helped keep 839 00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:06,200 Speaker 1: that locker room together with everything that went on, and 840 00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:08,480 Speaker 1: that team actually does believe in him, and they've hit 841 00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:11,080 Speaker 1: the right plays at the right times. This is like 842 00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:15,400 Speaker 1: the old Peanuts cartoon strip but Charles Schultz where Lucy 843 00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:19,880 Speaker 1: is getting all over Charlie Brown about his baseball team. Okay, 844 00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:22,960 Speaker 1: and she's crushing him, and she's like, and you guys 845 00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:24,840 Speaker 1: are lasting the league in this, and you're lasting the 846 00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:27,160 Speaker 1: league and that blah blah blah, and your stats say this, 847 00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:30,960 Speaker 1: and finally Charlie Brown says, Lucy, tell your statistics to 848 00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:35,040 Speaker 1: shut up. That's kind of where the Raiders off. Just 849 00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:37,759 Speaker 1: tell the statistic to shut up. We're just gonna show 850 00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:40,399 Speaker 1: up and play. But I got a relentless pass rush. 851 00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:44,160 Speaker 1: Now Crosby, you think a gock Way. They get after 852 00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:46,279 Speaker 1: it and they create a little havoc back there. But 853 00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:49,879 Speaker 1: the numbers they don't make sense. That's why I can't 854 00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:52,479 Speaker 1: believe they only have six interceptions with that pass rush 855 00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:57,600 Speaker 1: to only have six picks because those guys, yeah, they've 856 00:43:57,640 --> 00:43:59,640 Speaker 1: got when they've got on the back end. You know 857 00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:02,480 Speaker 1: when Nathan Abram is right. Dathan Abram is a box 858 00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:06,320 Speaker 1: safety who can't cover. He's not a cover guy, I 859 00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:08,680 Speaker 1: mean coming out of college. I love the fact that he, 860 00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:13,120 Speaker 1: you know, like Burgess, Meredith said, Rocky, I'm knocking it tomorrow, 861 00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:17,120 Speaker 1: rock Yeah, right, but but but but his coverage ability 862 00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:20,479 Speaker 1: isn't very good. Trayvon Merrick is that high center field 863 00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:22,960 Speaker 1: safety who's going to get better and better as time 864 00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:26,120 Speaker 1: goes on. He's ranging Casey Hayward up there. But they 865 00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:29,200 Speaker 1: are not super ballhawks, but they do a nice job 866 00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:31,800 Speaker 1: keeping things and waiting for you to make a mistake. 867 00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:35,920 Speaker 1: Thanks to Charles Davis and for much more on Saturday's 868 00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:38,759 Speaker 1: playoff game, Join lapping Me for the Bengals pep Rally 869 00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:42,440 Speaker 1: Show this Friday afternoon from three to six on ESPN 870 00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:46,279 Speaker 1: fifteen thirty or on the iHeartMedia app by searching for 871 00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:49,640 Speaker 1: ESPN fifteen thirty. 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