1 00:00:01,720 --> 00:00:04,479 Speaker 1: And that's what you really missed with Jenna. 2 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:07,119 Speaker 2: And Kevin an iHeartRadio podcast. 3 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:11,880 Speaker 1: Welcome to you when that's what you're in this podcast. 4 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:20,119 Speaker 1: Hello Kevin, Hello Jenna. So we're back in New York. Fully, 5 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:25,439 Speaker 1: we are with the backup Plan, and I have lots 6 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 1: of thoughts. 7 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:32,880 Speaker 2: We have Sherilan McClain, which is crazy, crazy, So let's 8 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:35,560 Speaker 2: get into this because we've been on a really good 9 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:37,160 Speaker 2: run with New York episodes. 10 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:41,160 Speaker 1: Okay, let's get into it. This is season five, episode eighteen. 11 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:43,200 Speaker 1: This is the Backup Plan and it aired on April 12 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 1: twenty nineth, twenty fourteen. 13 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:48,560 Speaker 2: Number one song is Still Happy. The number one movie 14 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 2: is The Other Woman. 15 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:51,600 Speaker 1: Never saw it. 16 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 2: I don't remember this at all. Nicki Minaj is in 17 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 2: it though. 18 00:00:56,320 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 1: Interesting? Okay, yeah, all right. Glee News is Week. On 19 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 1: April twenty fifth, Darren and Lea attended the Johnson Cancer 20 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 1: Foundation's nineteenth Annual Taste for Cure gala as well as 21 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 1: Ryan Murphy was there and the event was held at 22 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:14,400 Speaker 1: the recent Beverly Hotel in Beverly Hills. Darren performed Crazy 23 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 1: Love Ye, Van Morrison, Interesting and Let It Be, and 24 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 1: Leah joined him after and they sang somewhere after Somewhere 25 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:26,840 Speaker 1: over the Rainbow, and this EP came out because obviously 26 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 1: we know the rest of the episodes released an. 27 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 2: EP speaking of Somewhere with the Rainbow, How did you 28 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 2: feel about the opening of the oscars? 29 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:40,680 Speaker 1: I loved it. I loved it. I love that She's 30 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 1: sang home. 31 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, I screamed, And I love that. 32 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 1: They did fine define gravity. I was like here for it. 33 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 1: They looked great, they sounded great. I loved Ariana like 34 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 1: staring at Cynthia that way. We all love that, and 35 00:01:58,080 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 1: I just I really enjoyed it. 36 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 2: Ord also because this episode came out on the twenty 37 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 2: ninth of April, Happy birthday, Jenna and Harry the day 38 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 2: before April twenty eighth, and Diana on the thirtieth. 39 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 1: That's right. 40 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:15,240 Speaker 2: It was always a busy time for us. So this 41 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:19,239 Speaker 2: episode was directed by Ian Brennan, you know, one of 42 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 2: the co creators, written by Roberto and we have, like 43 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 2: we said, Shirley McLain and like, for some reason a 44 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:31,119 Speaker 2: small appearance from Eric Roberts. 45 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:38,320 Speaker 1: Yes, very interesting. Yeah, Okay. The songs are wake Me 46 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 1: Up by Vichi, perform by Rachel Do. 47 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 2: Up, That Thing performed by Mercedes and Santana. 48 00:02:46,240 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 1: Story of My Life performing Blaine and Kurt. 49 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 2: Piece of My Heart performed by Blaine and June Dollaway. 50 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:57,960 Speaker 1: And The Rose by Rachel oh Man. 51 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 2: Okay, there are some really fun on facts. So this 52 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 2: episode has the most absent main cast members to date, 53 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:06,360 Speaker 2: with ten characters missing. 54 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, there was not a lot of people maybe 55 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 1: lent to the tone of the episode. This is the 56 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 1: first episode in which Sam is absent since his return 57 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:21,080 Speaker 1: in season three. Wow episode eight Hold on to sixteen 58 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 1: And this is the second without rdy ABMs. 59 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 2: Do up. That thing was filmed under the set of 60 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:28,919 Speaker 2: Doctor Phil. 61 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 1: And this is the third episode ever where all the 62 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 1: main characters present in the episode aka Rachel, Kirk, Blaine, 63 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 1: and Santana sing and the first being The Power of 64 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 1: Madonna and the second being New New York. 65 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 2: And this episode marks the final appearance of Sidney Green. Okay, 66 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 2: so Jenna. This episode, Rachel jeopardizes her funny girl lead 67 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 2: when she auditions for a television pilot. Meanwhile, Mercedes tries 68 00:03:59,880 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 2: to help get Santana in on her recording deal and 69 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 2: Blame be friends an older, rich socialite. 70 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 1: All right, okay, let's talk about Mercedes and Santana. Okay, 71 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 1: let's talk about them. Because Mercedes is trying to find 72 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 1: a single on her album, and she said that her 73 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 1: producer doesn't hear a single like on her album, so 74 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:24,600 Speaker 1: the label won't give her the release date that they 75 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 1: have set for her. So of course she's with Santana, 76 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:33,480 Speaker 1: and she has Santana to help her find like her groove, 77 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:39,480 Speaker 1: I guess, and to find a song. And so they 78 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 1: go to the studio and she's like on the clock 79 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 1: and she can't really get it, and we don't really 80 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 1: know what's happening, and Santana suggests that they get out 81 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 1: of the studio and find that New York sound. So, okay, 82 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 1: I understand, I don't I understand this is what I 83 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:06,599 Speaker 1: do understand. I understand Mercedes trying to find a sound 84 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 1: for an album, right like, I understand that, and I 85 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 1: understand why she can't to New York for it. What 86 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 1: I don't understand is does that means getting out of 87 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:21,840 Speaker 1: the studio and singing while doing it down a hallway 88 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 1: and in a bathroom. I'm confused by the bathroom because 89 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 1: that's not New York. 90 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 3: The elevator, the they do like a whole we were 91 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 3: missing locations here, like you could have been a New 92 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:42,600 Speaker 3: York street or the subway or something. 93 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 1: We're not afraid of reusing locations. We know this, so 94 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:50,359 Speaker 1: we had to keep it on paramount and the producer 95 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 1: following him with a mic, following them with a mic 96 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 1: in Santana with a boombox. 97 00:05:56,160 --> 00:06:06,000 Speaker 2: Look, I know. The show so is constantly aspirational and 98 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:11,280 Speaker 2: wild and fanciful and not necessarily based in reality. Sometimes 99 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:12,919 Speaker 2: I'm fine with that. 100 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. 101 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 2: One of my biggest pet peeves in movies and TV 102 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 2: shows is how the music business is represented. And this 103 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 2: is all of those cliches and reasons why I hate 104 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 2: when the music business is like a storyline in something, 105 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 2: because none of it makes sense, none of it. And 106 00:06:38,720 --> 00:06:40,919 Speaker 2: I know that's not what the show is about, but 107 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 2: it's like, I don't know, you have other things that 108 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:46,040 Speaker 2: are like a lot of the stuff at the high 109 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 2: School is real, and then even some of the Broadway 110 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 2: stuff is real. None of this music business stuff is accurate. 111 00:06:53,720 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 2: It is so baffling to me. However, Naya, and we're 112 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 2: doing so many funny things like for us, like Amber 113 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 2: goes scoop to the note, which is what Alex used 114 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 2: to do. Yeah, our vocal producers used to do to us, 115 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 2: and we all used to talk about it. And if 116 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 2: you listen to the show, you've heard a joke about 117 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 2: it before. And she's really going scoop too. And then 118 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 2: like some of the dance moves they're doing and when 119 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 2: they're walking through whatever, I don't. 120 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 1: Know, hallways always yeah. 121 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 2: But they're doing like our funny I mean. 122 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 1: You have to do at that point because like it's 123 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 1: kind of there's no real intention behind it, Like there's 124 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 1: nothing clear about this that says I found my groove 125 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 1: in the doop song in the hallway of a New 126 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 1: York recording studio aka Doctor Phil's basement. 127 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 2: So to make it work, it just isn't. Also like 128 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 2: you know what we're gonna do. This is gonna save it. 129 00:07:55,640 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 2: We're going to record this song in the bass meant 130 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 2: which also what is the song? Maybe the song's bad, right, I. 131 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:07,680 Speaker 1: Don't think they have the song yet. I think they 132 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 1: just figured out that they have the sound. 133 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 2: Like none of it makes sense. And like also I 134 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 2: don't know what's happening with the costumes. They're back to 135 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 2: dressing Amber like she's twenty years older than she is. 136 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 1: And Naya's I don't know what she's wearing. 137 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 2: I don't I don't know what's going on, and. 138 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 1: I don't know. 139 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 2: What I like about this storyline is like Mercedes is 140 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:37,679 Speaker 2: always super loyal to her friends. I think this is 141 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:40,320 Speaker 2: the important thing here, even in the face of her 142 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 2: own like professional career, something she's always wanted and should have. 143 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 2: She's like, let me have out my girl, because she's 144 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:52,440 Speaker 2: incredible and right, like sits up for her and tries 145 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 2: to get Santana on the track with her, and the 146 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 2: producers like, no, no, you shouldn't do it, and I 147 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 2: don't disagree, Like he had some good points in Tanna's 148 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 2: Santana is trying to be a better person. 149 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:09,200 Speaker 1: And yes, we see this throughout the whole episode. 150 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, like I think you are. I think he's right. 151 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:13,440 Speaker 2: You know I'm going to leave because you know what 152 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 2: I would do in this situation. What you even see 153 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 2: at the end of the episode with Santana and Rachel, which. 154 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 1: I just can't Okay, just keep going and keep going. 155 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 2: And we'll get back to I think we should talk 156 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 2: about that when we get to Rachel. But yes, agreed, 157 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 2: but she does a nice thing for her by stepping 158 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:37,680 Speaker 2: into the show for her, and at the end of it, 159 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:39,560 Speaker 2: Rachel's like, you know, what do you want to return? 160 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 2: And Santana's like, I don't want anything. I'm trying. I'm 161 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 2: working on me. But that music. That music section was 162 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 2: really tough because it's also like you're not giving like 163 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:57,560 Speaker 2: the dialogue a real fair shot because what you're talking 164 00:09:57,600 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 2: about makes no sense. 165 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:00,840 Speaker 1: Well that's it, It's like. 166 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:04,079 Speaker 2: What are you like? I think Amber and I did 167 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 2: a great job. 168 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 1: Yeah it's not a great but they looked. 169 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 2: Like also something was off with the lip sinking. I 170 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 2: think probably because the. 171 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:12,560 Speaker 1: Whole episode, right, the. 172 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 2: Whole episode was weird. Everyone was over enunciating their words, 173 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:18,680 Speaker 2: but especially in that thing, and it feels like that 174 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:21,839 Speaker 2: had to have been a note from somebody. I also 175 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:23,960 Speaker 2: think they probably were messing up the lips think of 176 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:28,960 Speaker 2: it because it's so many words. 177 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:30,479 Speaker 1: Like a lot of weird ad lives and like underneath 178 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 1: and yeah. 179 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 2: It was just cutting around it. 180 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 1: I felt confused and I was like, where what journey 181 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:39,079 Speaker 1: were on? Right now? Where are we going with this? 182 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 1: Where is this taking us? Why are we here? It 183 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 1: didn't feel warranted. I just felt like it was filling 184 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:46,720 Speaker 1: the space. 185 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 2: It felt goofy. Yeah, and I don't mean that in 186 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 2: a good way. 187 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 1: No, No, I know what you mean. 188 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:55,840 Speaker 2: The whole tone of the all these storylines of this episode, 189 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:59,200 Speaker 2: everything felt goofy. It just didn't feel grounded. It didn't 190 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 2: feel grounded in reality. 191 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 1: Like there if there's a reality in the story, the 192 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 1: characters can kind of be elevated and we can kind 193 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:08,320 Speaker 1: of be KOOKI and kind of be weird and do 194 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:11,200 Speaker 1: our whole thing and do our spiels. But when it's 195 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:17,840 Speaker 1: not grounded in that, you lose it loses the the 196 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:21,960 Speaker 1: glee thing that of being able to like suspend the 197 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 1: reality right because it just feels so out of left field, 198 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:27,200 Speaker 1: like out of thin air. 199 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:31,959 Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe I'm being hypocritical. I'm not sure, 200 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 2: but like even how some of the musical numbers were 201 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:38,959 Speaker 2: blocked and filmed, how it was lit, everything just felt different. 202 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:44,679 Speaker 2: And I agreed, I was just a little confused bout 203 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:47,199 Speaker 2: what was going on. It felt like a little senior itis, 204 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 2: like we're at the end of the season here. 205 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:51,320 Speaker 1: A totally season totally. 206 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:53,720 Speaker 2: And I also think it's because I've been on like 207 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 2: we've been on such a high, We've we've loved these 208 00:11:57,520 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 2: past couple episodes in New York, and so this is 209 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 2: like a glaring thing for me. Funny girl. 210 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 1: Okay, it's a success. We know this. And there Rachel's singing, 211 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 1: wake me up. She's bored. She's not. And I wouldn't 212 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 1: say like that's the character or the way she's portraying it, like, 213 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:38,199 Speaker 1: oh I'm bored, but it's the way it's being portrayed, 214 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:42,199 Speaker 1: like like Lee's doing a great job with what she's given, 215 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:47,080 Speaker 1: Like she's done the show for what She's got fifty 216 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 1: something shows under her belt. Now it's not that many. 217 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:52,320 Speaker 2: She's like a month in or something. 218 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 1: A month in and all of a sudden she's getting approached. 219 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 1: She's hot, you know, the big a girl. She's hot. 220 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 2: News people want her an. 221 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 1: Ica, Oh yes, thank you, so so. Richard Kine's there, 222 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:09,720 Speaker 1: he's her agent. It's a very funny scene, but basically 223 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 1: he's like, what do you want? This guy's the limit 224 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:15,680 Speaker 1: And then but we think you have a face for radio. 225 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:19,560 Speaker 1: So really kind of just bringing her down to this 226 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:22,960 Speaker 1: place of like you're not gonna work how you want 227 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 1: to work on TV and film forever and like kind 228 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:32,080 Speaker 1: of like make your way to the next step. She's 229 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:35,720 Speaker 1: feeling like Funny Girls getting a little redundant. Based on 230 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:39,719 Speaker 1: Wake Me Up, where she does this, they show her 231 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:43,320 Speaker 1: coming out night after night to do the show and 232 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:46,200 Speaker 1: it feels repetitive and she's doing the same thing, and 233 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 1: I thought that was cool, but I don't think it 234 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 1: was warranted for the timing of the show that it's 235 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 1: so quickly after. I am glad that Kurt did mention 236 00:13:57,120 --> 00:14:00,200 Speaker 1: like this is what you've always wanted you just start 237 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 1: Why are you going to f it all up now? 238 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 2: It also makes zero sense I think for her character 239 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 2: where totally that like she has been driven from day 240 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 2: one to basically get to where she is. And obviously, 241 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 2: yes she left Nada early to do this, but that 242 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 2: makes sense and is still in line with like what 243 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 2: her dream has been. Yeah, and like you said, you're like, 244 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:27,680 Speaker 2: why would you keep going to school if you're already 245 00:14:27,720 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 2: like the lead in a show like right that you're 246 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 2: going to school to do that thing right? Right? So 247 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 2: like that makes sense. But then she turns around and 248 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 2: does it again, but with this like TV movie stuff, 249 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 2: and again, like you said, if the story is grounded, 250 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:48,360 Speaker 2: then like they can be crazy and like, yeah, that's 251 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:52,200 Speaker 2: why all of her like leaving Niata early and acting 252 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 2: a little crazy. It's fine because it's within line with 253 00:14:56,520 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 2: like how she's been for five seasons. Yes, this feels 254 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 2: like totally out of whack for me. 255 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 1: Well yeah, so I mean, like, okay, So for example, 256 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 1: this Paul what's his name. 257 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 2: Lee, Paul black Lee Paul played by Jim Rashers, and 258 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 2: I thought he was so a lot of good guest stars, 259 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 2: like you said Richard Kind. Jim rash was hilarious and 260 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 2: did like a really grounded performance of this. 261 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 1: Yes, I loved it. So he comes in. The Fox 262 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 1: exec comes in and says, I, after Rachel's had her meeting, 263 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 1: her very discouraging meeting with her agents, and he says, 264 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 1: there's this show on Fox that a little meta, we 265 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 1: want you to come and test for and uh your 266 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 1: perk before it and blah blah blah. So she's trying 267 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 1: to get out of the show, out of her Broadway show. 268 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 1: He's like, can you make it on Tuesday night? And 269 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 1: she's like, no, I have a show and he's like, well, 270 00:15:56,000 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 1: you're under study. It's a show. Now, Well, people do 271 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:07,960 Speaker 1: this right, People call out of a show. It's frowned upon. 272 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 1: It's probably a breach of contract realistically, but people call 273 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 1: out her shows for reasons, right, like I just you 274 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 1: don't leave town if you're the star of a show 275 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 1: unless you get approval, which she tried to get out Sydney, 276 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 1: but like didn't work. He was like no, no, no. 277 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 1: She calls out of the show after having a conversation 278 00:16:30,320 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 1: with Kurt, who I appreciated that conversation of him keeping 279 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 1: it real with her, and flies to La to test 280 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 1: where she didn't get the script and sings a song, 281 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 1: sings the Rose. Now the Rose would have been funny, 282 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 1: but we weren't in on the joke. We didn't know 283 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 1: that it wasn't a singing audition, that there were sides 284 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:04,120 Speaker 1: and it was a space sci fi show. I mean 285 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:06,920 Speaker 1: I got it from their reactions totally, but I wasn't 286 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:11,159 Speaker 1: sure if she's sang the wrong song or it. Like, 287 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 1: I didn't know what they were looking for, and so 288 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:17,640 Speaker 1: it wasn't like, oh, she wasn't supposed to sing like 289 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 1: I just thought like, oh, she's singing, and they're like, oh, 290 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 1: you know this is this is not the right character 291 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 1: you're auditioning for. So that was one two so weird 292 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 1: to be in like a Fox studio room. It's not 293 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 1: how a test really looks, but I could kind of 294 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:40,479 Speaker 1: look like a test. Yeah, but it's just like the 295 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 1: whole thing of the Lee Paul Blatt walking into her 296 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 1: dressing room with unannounced She has no idea he's coming. 297 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:53,919 Speaker 1: Sits down also like so weird to me, like so 298 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:55,200 Speaker 1: many realistics. 299 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:58,199 Speaker 2: Everything was weird. The only thing I enjoyed in this 300 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:00,640 Speaker 2: was like there was some good comedy the two of them. 301 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:03,640 Speaker 2: They were really funny together. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, sure, 302 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 2: Like Leah was really funny and so is Jim. 303 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:10,880 Speaker 1: It was great. 304 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:13,959 Speaker 2: I love seeing Paramount. It's like, oh, that's where we shot, 305 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:16,680 Speaker 2: Like that's where it's clearly everything had to be filmed 306 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:18,720 Speaker 2: at Paramount. At the end of the season, we're not 307 00:18:18,760 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 2: going to New York again. 308 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. Her audition was really bad, 309 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 1: which was actually funny too to like see as an actor, 310 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 1: to watch a bad audition, not to watch her fail, 311 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 1: but like it happens and it's real and it's sometimes 312 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:39,359 Speaker 1: you're just not right for the part. It awful and 313 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 1: you're like, I'm actually like in the middle of an 314 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 1: audition like that, I'd be like thinking to myself like, 315 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 1: let me just excuse myself and do you all a 316 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:51,480 Speaker 1: favor right now, because like we all know this isn't. 317 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:53,160 Speaker 2: Right, you knowing everybody's time. 318 00:18:53,320 --> 00:19:00,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, like maybe maybe I should just leave. And she 319 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:03,159 Speaker 1: gets stuck in and city calls that her understudy had 320 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:06,200 Speaker 1: uh slipped and hurt her neck, right. 321 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 2: Something like that fell off the stage or something. 322 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, I fell off the lip of the stage 323 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:12,679 Speaker 1: and hurt her neck. And so she he needs she 324 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 1: needs to hydrate and show up and she's in La 325 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:18,200 Speaker 1: and she can't make it back, and so she calls Kurt, 326 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:24,119 Speaker 1: who enlists Mercedes and Santana to help him like stall 327 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:26,439 Speaker 1: the show, figure it out so that she doesn't lose 328 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 1: her job and uh in breach of contract, and so 329 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 1: Santana has an idea to go step in as Fanny Bryce. Well. 330 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 2: Also when Kurt comes in to tell Santana Mercedes is 331 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:49,679 Speaker 2: there offering Santana a recording like a contract so she 332 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 2: can sing on a song with her, I was like, 333 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:55,440 Speaker 2: what is happening. It doesn't happen, none of it well, 334 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:57,639 Speaker 2: because it was like it's not only the music storyline 335 00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 2: now like the Rachel's storyline. Also it's cliches about TV 336 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:05,480 Speaker 2: and agent Broadway and Broadway. 337 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. 338 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 2: Okay, so now we're compounding that right, right, Like two 339 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:14,920 Speaker 2: negatives does not make a positive. 340 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:19,199 Speaker 1: Right exactly. And Santana shows up and turns around and 341 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 1: she's in the Fanny Rice costume and it's just so unrealistic, 342 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 1: like it would never happen like that, given granted she 343 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 1: was hired as the understudy to start, so there's like 344 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 1: at least a piece of it that kind of makes sense, 345 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:41,120 Speaker 1: but like, no, it wouldn't. It wouldn't happen like that, 346 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:44,440 Speaker 1: and after wouldn't tell a producer that she's stepping in. 347 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:49,640 Speaker 1: Santana wouldn't be ready. She doesn't fit into Rachel's costumes. 348 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:53,679 Speaker 1: She looks like she's going on for a concert, not 349 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:58,439 Speaker 1: a musical. I don't I don't fully understand any of it. 350 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:02,399 Speaker 1: I didn't believe a word of it, and so it 351 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:07,120 Speaker 1: just felt very looked out of thin air, not based 352 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 1: in reality at all. She does save the show, I guess, 353 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 1: and apparently she was very good, and apparently Rachel makes 354 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 1: it back to see her in the second act, and 355 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:21,720 Speaker 1: so she's very good and she thanks Santana, and that 356 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:25,160 Speaker 1: very nice scene that you had talked about earlier where 357 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 1: she's like, Okay, tell me what you want, and Santana 358 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 1: very kindly says, like, you know, let's kind of just 359 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:35,119 Speaker 1: start over. And you can see this as a gesture 360 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:37,400 Speaker 1: of like me trying to be a better person, which 361 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:39,680 Speaker 1: is really great. And of course we love a scene 362 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:44,439 Speaker 1: with Rachel and Santana, love to watch them together. And 363 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 1: I appreciated that because I do think that it's nice 364 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 1: to see a character still evolving at this point in 365 00:21:53,359 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 1: the show, and for a character to continue to have 366 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 1: an arc that makes sense, something something I just I 367 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:09,720 Speaker 1: feel like redeeming in this episode, in this very harsh 368 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:17,680 Speaker 1: episode that feels very yeah. And Rachel has a meeting 369 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:22,840 Speaker 1: with Sydney and she is very prepared for him to 370 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 1: fire her because of what she did. She told him 371 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:29,760 Speaker 1: the truth and you just don't do that and you 372 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 1: don't leave and call out for another audition. It's just 373 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:39,720 Speaker 1: not right. There would also be a second Fanny stand by. 374 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 1: There'd be a stand by and an understudy. I wanted 375 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 1: to ask you the title orle would have more than 376 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 1: one cover, for sure, they generally have two covers. One 377 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:53,160 Speaker 1: would probably be the stand by, which is the one 378 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:55,879 Speaker 1: who goes on the most. But then there would be 379 00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 1: another person who also covers Fanny. Because of times like 380 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 1: this and two people are out, which happens, it realistically happens, 381 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 1: So that wouldn't have happened. And that meeting. 382 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:14,200 Speaker 2: Seemed pretty real though that I like that felt grounded 383 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:18,200 Speaker 2: and like shocking in a way. That was yes, because 384 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 2: you know, you just assume like she's gonna get away 385 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 2: with it, She'll get a little but like he was mad. 386 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:26,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, Kevin. The the producer meeting was Actually 387 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 1: I think it did its job. We were supposed to 388 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:32,920 Speaker 1: feel very downtrodden and taken down by this whole thing. 389 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:37,159 Speaker 1: Like Rachel was really getting more than just a slap 390 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:40,359 Speaker 1: on the wrist and really hit her hard, and it 391 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:43,600 Speaker 1: was kind of it was inappropriate in a way that 392 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:46,960 Speaker 1: I don't think somebody should speak to somebody else, whether 393 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:51,679 Speaker 1: it be a boss to a employee of any kind. 394 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:57,679 Speaker 1: It was more of a hit on her person and 395 00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:00,639 Speaker 1: it felt like that. And so I think her response 396 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:06,639 Speaker 1: coming out of that meeting was valid and how upset 397 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:08,920 Speaker 1: she was because she knew she had messed up, and 398 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 1: you know, it happens, but I don't think it called 399 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:14,680 Speaker 1: for that, but I do think it justified her wanting 400 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:19,160 Speaker 1: to take on this show and leave Fanny Brice at 401 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 1: this point because the workplace has then become toxic with 402 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:26,920 Speaker 1: how Sydney's treating her. So therefore then she's going, Okay, 403 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 1: they're going to make a show for me. I got 404 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 1: to get out of here. So sure, none of that 405 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 1: really happens like that, And also like the development deal, 406 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 1: it doesn't really happen like that, but they are Lee. 407 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 1: Paul Black calls her and says, look, we know that 408 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 1: you weren't right for this sci fi show, but we 409 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,160 Speaker 1: are going to give you a development deal in which 410 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:50,720 Speaker 1: we're going to create a show around you, which we 411 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:54,399 Speaker 1: will get you the untitled Rachel Barry Project, which I 412 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 1: don't know anything about. I don't know how that ends, 413 00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:58,400 Speaker 1: so I am curious how they're going to handle all 414 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 1: of that. But I again, none of this felt real 415 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 1: and maybe and it's also kind of sad because like, yes, 416 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 1: we've worked on Broadway, we've worked in the music industry, 417 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 1: we know how this all works. For people who don't, 418 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:16,200 Speaker 1: that's their take on what happens. 419 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:19,919 Speaker 2: Yes, but I also feel like that this show is 420 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:25,800 Speaker 2: generally ground smarter, like getting wittier than that, agreed, and 421 00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:28,920 Speaker 2: so it just felt like often that way. And I 422 00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 2: think because like the writers have been doing such a 423 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 2: good job of raising the bar of what we've been 424 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:37,439 Speaker 2: seeing right now, and you totally told that. It's like, 425 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:40,720 Speaker 2: that's what you've come to expect, We've adjusted our expectations, 426 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:44,800 Speaker 2: and I'm like, this doesn't meet that, right. But I 427 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:48,480 Speaker 2: do think there's also a trend of, like some of 428 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:52,960 Speaker 2: the episodes, not just in our show in general, when 429 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:56,000 Speaker 2: it gets towards the end of like a long season, 430 00:25:56,760 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 2: you have a couple of clunkers, and that's fine writing 431 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:03,439 Speaker 2: twenty twenty two episodes a season whatever. 432 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:11,200 Speaker 1: Totally, it just it really it ended my streak for sure. 433 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:14,080 Speaker 1: I think it ended a lot of people' streaks. But 434 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:16,440 Speaker 1: I would be curious to hear people think that's that 435 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 1: we still haven't finished. We have Kurt and Blaine, so 436 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:23,920 Speaker 1: curtain Blaine. Kurt is going to sing and perform at 437 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 1: the renaming of the Nanda Dance Studio. 438 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:33,119 Speaker 2: For selected to be the performer, Okay, and then just 439 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:36,000 Speaker 2: has Blaine. And you're at the opening of a dance 440 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 2: studio and there is no dancing. You're actually just singing 441 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 2: like a mid tempo song on stools. 442 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:43,879 Speaker 1: It's really weird. 443 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:47,440 Speaker 2: It's so strange because those two can do such high 444 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 2: energy performances as well. 445 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 1: I do. I will say while the song choices, I 446 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 1: didn't think we're quite correct for this. I do love 447 00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 1: these songs like I love Waiting Up, I loved Up, 448 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 1: I love Story of My Life like I'm I'm here 449 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:07,560 Speaker 1: for it. But I I just didn't and yeah, exactly 450 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:10,880 Speaker 1: exactly didn't quick fit into the storyline. But there are 451 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:13,200 Speaker 1: episodes where that's going to happen, where we're writing around 452 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:16,920 Speaker 1: you know, we're writing and the songs just happened to 453 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 1: make it in and they do. Yeah, they do. Story 454 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:23,439 Speaker 1: in My Life for Dune Dollaway and June ends up 455 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:26,360 Speaker 1: being and Kurt is obsessed with Dan all the way. 456 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:30,640 Speaker 1: He's like a huge fan, totally aware of like her 457 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 1: body of work. And Blaine's just kind of there for 458 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:38,520 Speaker 1: the ride, and June perks up, which is the Shirley 459 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:41,199 Speaker 1: McLean who is in the show, and she perks up 460 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 1: and sees Blaine and sees his potential and she takes 461 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:47,000 Speaker 1: him under her wing and they go to this charity 462 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:49,600 Speaker 1: dinner together and they decide. She decides she's going to 463 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 1: do a show for him to showcase his talents, and 464 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:57,959 Speaker 1: Blaine very kindly is like, I'm going to include Kurt 465 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:00,440 Speaker 1: or where does Kurt fit in to all of this? 466 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:04,160 Speaker 1: And she's like, no, no, it's not going to happen 467 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:08,879 Speaker 1: like that. Now. I don't think Blaine should have been 468 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:14,920 Speaker 1: afraid to tell Kurt like June doesn't really like you, 469 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:16,840 Speaker 1: because Kurt was like, oh I thought she hated me, 470 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:19,800 Speaker 1: like he didn't even expect her to be in any 471 00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:23,879 Speaker 1: this show. So again, I was like confused why they 472 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:26,159 Speaker 1: couldn't just have an honest conversation about it. But I 473 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 1: guess that wouldn't be good TV. I don't know, I. 474 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 2: I don't know. It's sort of it felt like everybody 475 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:42,200 Speaker 2: was acting out of character and not like if I'm exciting, Oh, 476 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 2: they're acting out of character. 477 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:48,120 Speaker 1: I just felt like out of sorts completely. 478 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:52,680 Speaker 2: Yes, like it didn't make Yeah, yeah, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. 479 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:54,560 Speaker 2: I'm studying that. I was. I was watching it in 480 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:55,880 Speaker 2: sort of each scene that happened. 481 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 1: I was like, wait, what's happening. I also just like 482 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:02,080 Speaker 1: I I to be honest, like I didn't care. I 483 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:08,160 Speaker 1: didn't care, about the storyline, and it wasn't that I 484 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:10,120 Speaker 1: don't care about the characters and I didn't care about 485 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:14,040 Speaker 1: like how cool it was for Shirley McClain to be 486 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 1: there and for but like, Curt and Blaine have been 487 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:20,600 Speaker 1: through so much more than this, and it felt so 488 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 1: high school yeah minute in what they've been through that 489 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:30,640 Speaker 1: I was like, why why do I care about this storyline? 490 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:36,200 Speaker 1: So fine about it? Yes, exactly. So it's more of 491 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:40,400 Speaker 1: like Blaine's fear of hurting Kurt, but which I guess 492 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 1: is sweet. But anyway, so June and Blaine they perform 493 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,360 Speaker 1: at the dinner and so she's like, I got to 494 00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:48,440 Speaker 1: get to know you. I got to know all about 495 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:50,480 Speaker 1: you if I can talk about you and get you 496 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:52,880 Speaker 1: to network. And Kurt's like super's reported, which I love, 497 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:57,560 Speaker 1: and she's going to help him put on a showcase. 498 00:29:57,600 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 1: But she also tells him to break up with Kurt. 499 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:02,360 Speaker 1: She's been through love and she's been in love many 500 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:05,960 Speaker 1: many times, and I'm like, but wait a second where 501 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:07,600 Speaker 1: she says she has to get to know you, but 502 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:10,480 Speaker 1: then she's like giving you like life advice, like big 503 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:11,280 Speaker 1: life advice. 504 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:15,360 Speaker 2: I don't know, it just feel like we missed a 505 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:18,760 Speaker 2: lot of steps, Like this episode felt like a bunch 506 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:21,400 Speaker 2: of storylines that could have happened in a couple episodes, 507 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:26,920 Speaker 2: Like we skipped to the end of like these significant 508 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 2: plot points. 509 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:31,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, where is this going? Where's this going? Now? 510 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 2: If you could build Rachel being tired of, you know, 511 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 2: the show, or like the show is starting to strain 512 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:41,480 Speaker 2: on her, if you could build this relationship, it'd be 513 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:46,200 Speaker 2: treating her terribly or whatever, or you build the you 514 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:50,720 Speaker 2: know with Blaine and Kurt and June, that dynamic being 515 00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:55,320 Speaker 2: strained over some time and then her getting the like 516 00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 2: you know, if if she had I'm not a writer. 517 00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:01,520 Speaker 2: I don't want to give notes this is however, it's 518 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:07,960 Speaker 2: like sure, Sherley McLean also side note, is so good 519 00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 2: in this and I enjoyed watching her just do everything. 520 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:14,160 Speaker 2: She owns every single scene she's in. And I liked 521 00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:18,200 Speaker 2: her and Darren together. They were really great together, great, 522 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:23,040 Speaker 2: and she's so funny, very and it was so real. 523 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:28,160 Speaker 2: It was wild. Obviously she's a legend, but imagine, like, 524 00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:31,400 Speaker 2: you know, you built that sort of tension between three 525 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:33,959 Speaker 2: of them over a couple episodes, and then when you 526 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:37,560 Speaker 2: think like I'm your biggest advocate, actually get rid of 527 00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:41,080 Speaker 2: your boyfriend. It means more totally, but we're running out 528 00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:43,400 Speaker 2: of time and season and we probably don't have Shirley 529 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:46,760 Speaker 2: for that many episodes, so we got to can't move in. 530 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:52,520 Speaker 1: All right, Okay, sorry we're so down on this episode. 531 00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:54,640 Speaker 1: I know, I know. I hate to be like that, 532 00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:57,040 Speaker 1: but it is like a kind of a filler transition 533 00:31:57,160 --> 00:32:02,160 Speaker 1: episode in a lot of ways. Aside there's moments. There's 534 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 1: definitely moments, and I think everybody's doing a really great 535 00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:07,600 Speaker 1: job and there's really good performances. But like, we're working 536 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:20,800 Speaker 1: with what we got here. Let's grade some performances. Wake 537 00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:24,959 Speaker 1: me up. I don't feel like this tone worked for 538 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:30,800 Speaker 1: this song. It felt like contrasting genre with what I 539 00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:34,320 Speaker 1: was seeing on the screen. Yeah, so I'm giving this 540 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:35,120 Speaker 1: a B minus. 541 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:38,440 Speaker 2: I think I would like to repeat what you said earlier. 542 00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:42,560 Speaker 2: The caveat or the qualifying statement for all of these 543 00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:50,920 Speaker 2: performances is that the recorded versions are awesome. Chris love 544 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:57,200 Speaker 2: all of them. This is grading the performances in the episode. Yeah, 545 00:32:57,280 --> 00:33:02,960 Speaker 2: I'd give it a bee do op that thing. I'll 546 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:03,440 Speaker 2: give it. 547 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:09,480 Speaker 1: And it's hard, it's hard to separate it because, like 548 00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:12,160 Speaker 1: I can't stop watching them walk down the hallway with 549 00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:15,000 Speaker 1: like a tiny mic kind of like lagging behind them, 550 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:18,960 Speaker 1: but also like it's obviously we love that song. Obviously 551 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:24,560 Speaker 1: we loved Amber and not on it. B plus Yeah, 552 00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:31,600 Speaker 1: sorry to say, Story of my Life be plus again, Yeah, 553 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:38,440 Speaker 1: be plus, Peace in my Heart benus Yeah, and then 554 00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:44,680 Speaker 1: the Rose B plus. Okay, it's a good average there. 555 00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:49,240 Speaker 1: Let's do some tarty takes, some cringe moments. Okay, I 556 00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:57,200 Speaker 1: will say the blame thing. It does feel a little grooomy, 557 00:33:58,880 --> 00:33:59,640 Speaker 1: just a little bit. 558 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:04,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't And also like just the way that. 559 00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:09,880 Speaker 1: Sydney's speaking to Rachel is like it just is like ikey. 560 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:11,960 Speaker 1: It's so ikey to me. I don't like it. 561 00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:16,200 Speaker 2: Well, all the like sort of the show bised stuff. 562 00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:19,400 Speaker 2: It's sort of gross. Like the way her agent is 563 00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:26,000 Speaker 2: speaking to her is obviously terrible. Yeah, I think all 564 00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:28,839 Speaker 2: that is. And yes, some of those things happen in 565 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:32,560 Speaker 2: real life and some of them are that bad. But 566 00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:36,400 Speaker 2: it was just like a lot all at once, you know. Yeah, 567 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:41,720 Speaker 2: best dance move. There's not really dancing in this, however, 568 00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:45,759 Speaker 2: props to I think I want to give it to 569 00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:50,600 Speaker 2: whatever Shirley MacLean is doing in Peace of my heart 570 00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:53,800 Speaker 2: because like she's doing crowd work. 571 00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:56,880 Speaker 1: Yeah fair enough. I mean I don't think Charlie McLean's 572 00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:57,680 Speaker 1: just doing some. 573 00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:00,680 Speaker 2: Like leans and stuff. And I was like, you're getting it. 574 00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:05,000 Speaker 1: Give it to us, Okay, that's good, surely deserves it all. 575 00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:14,760 Speaker 1: The best song. I don't know. I don't. I actually 576 00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:15,160 Speaker 1: don't know. 577 00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:21,360 Speaker 2: You know, I may give it a piece of my heart. Interesting, Actually, 578 00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:24,520 Speaker 2: I don't know. I liked the version of wake Me Up. 579 00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:29,160 Speaker 1: Oh you jad like good on it. I like the 580 00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:34,160 Speaker 1: slow version. I just I can't un see the situation 581 00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:36,359 Speaker 1: in which it was in. That doesn't feel. 582 00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:40,440 Speaker 2: It's the multiple walking down the hall. Yeah no. 583 00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:42,920 Speaker 1: And I liked a story in my life, like I 584 00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:43,720 Speaker 1: love that song. 585 00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:47,359 Speaker 2: Maybe I'm gonna go with do up that thing. 586 00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:51,200 Speaker 1: Okay, let's do it. I'm just gonna follow the crowd 587 00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:55,720 Speaker 1: this week. Best performance by a prop. 588 00:35:57,160 --> 00:36:01,760 Speaker 2: I think all the funny girl signs and posters, okay, 589 00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:02,120 Speaker 2: bench I. 590 00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:03,759 Speaker 1: Was gonna go with the tidy microphone. 591 00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:07,040 Speaker 2: Oh god, actually, I think you're right. And Nya holding 592 00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:07,640 Speaker 2: the jam. 593 00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:12,759 Speaker 1: Box, the gym box, we all have those too, right, Yeah, 594 00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:16,280 Speaker 1: what a time? Okay, that's a capsule in time. Best 595 00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:21,399 Speaker 1: line Okay, I will say, uh the whole like Song 596 00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:24,960 Speaker 1: of Solomon, like the scenarios they were given and the 597 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:30,480 Speaker 1: script in it was so bad, Like I did it appreciate, 598 00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:33,760 Speaker 1: Like He's like, Song Solomon is a sci fi space opera. 599 00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:37,399 Speaker 1: Andrew Here plays Captain dax Anders who pilots to ship 600 00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:40,719 Speaker 1: the Solomon across the Andrometa Galaxy with the glad Roel 601 00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:44,719 Speaker 1: of the Star Morian. It's like, it is like so ridiculous, 602 00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:47,520 Speaker 1: and there are shows like that, but I appreciated that. 603 00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:49,080 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's the best quote. 604 00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:54,319 Speaker 2: But I did, Like, Kurt, You're this huge talent. It's 605 00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:56,680 Speaker 2: like Russell Crow and Johnny Carson. No matter how awful 606 00:36:56,719 --> 00:37:00,000 Speaker 2: you are, people are always gonna want to work with you. 607 00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,080 Speaker 2: And you spent six hours a day with her, and 608 00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:04,160 Speaker 2: I have yet to receive one text being like, hey, 609 00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:07,480 Speaker 2: I'm talking poverty with Bono or Tales of Lunch at 610 00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:10,520 Speaker 2: Balthazar with Carl Lagerfeld or Condi Rice. 611 00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:17,239 Speaker 1: That was a good one, go Kurt performance MVP. I 612 00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:19,480 Speaker 1: think Leah and Charlote McLain. 613 00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:22,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Leah. 614 00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:23,440 Speaker 1: Yeah. 615 00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:26,839 Speaker 2: I think Leah really had a lot to do here, 616 00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:31,000 Speaker 2: and she was like her physical comedy was great, she cried, 617 00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:32,400 Speaker 2: like she's do a bit of everything. 618 00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:35,239 Speaker 1: Yes, I'll take it. 619 00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:37,920 Speaker 2: Okay, So Jenna, should we found on TikTok tell me 620 00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:41,960 Speaker 2: we're doing things a little differently here. It's not directly 621 00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:43,320 Speaker 2: gly related. 622 00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:44,359 Speaker 1: Okay, but. 623 00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:51,440 Speaker 2: Gigs at gigs, commented Sue Sylvester in Action in twenty 624 00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:53,920 Speaker 2: twenty five. And it is a video of an older 625 00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:58,080 Speaker 2: gentleman in a full red track suit and sunglasses walking 626 00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:04,240 Speaker 2: out of Costco with a full card of beefsteaks, getting 627 00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:09,319 Speaker 2: to his limo via red carpet and velvet rope. 628 00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:13,600 Speaker 1: I gotta know this, I gotta know this whole story. 629 00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:17,120 Speaker 1: I have to know what is going on. So it 630 00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:20,240 Speaker 1: feels like an episode of Glee. 631 00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:23,680 Speaker 2: Also of like Curb Your Enthusiasm or Modern Family. It's yes, 632 00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:26,520 Speaker 2: very good, so wild, but also yeah, that is so 633 00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:29,840 Speaker 2: Sevester in twenty twenty five fully excellent. 634 00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:32,320 Speaker 1: Well, I'm so sorry that this was such a downer 635 00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:38,759 Speaker 1: from our last few episodes of joy and excitement, but 636 00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:41,480 Speaker 1: this one was just a little weird. So thanks for 637 00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:45,279 Speaker 1: hanging in with us, and Chris Colfer's episode is next week, 638 00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:48,080 Speaker 1: so please tune in with us for all dog Nu 639 00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:49,239 Speaker 1: tricks and. 640 00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:52,320 Speaker 2: Don't hate us, and that's what you really missed. 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