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Speaker 1: scientific than d d FP. Welcome back to another edition

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Speaker 1: hey man? Happy Thursday? It is? Well, where how do

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Speaker 1: of us today in the studio, as you know, and

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Speaker 1: Brady works as hard as any quarterback, including Peyton Manning.

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Speaker 1: Just certain guys talk about it and some guys don't. J. J.

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Speaker 1: Watt will let you know that's okay, though he just

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Speaker 1: likes people to know that he's J. J. Watt. Maybe

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Speaker 1: it's a little harder to when you're playing in Houston. Well,

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Speaker 1: I mean, on a series note, it is incredible that

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Speaker 1: he won Defensive Player of the Year while playing through

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Speaker 1: that injury and facing double and triple teams. I mean,

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Speaker 1: to his credit, he didn't let us know week to

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Speaker 1: week during the season. You would never know this was happening. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Spoiler alert, by the way, not the first we'll hear

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Speaker 1: about J. J. Watton this podcast. Moving on, the Chiefs

437
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Speaker 1: have signed Charkkendrick West and Spencer Ware to contract extensions. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Both guys stepped up last year after Jamal Charles blew

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Speaker 1: out his A C. L Um in October UM and

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Speaker 1: now both are under contract. Rap Sheet had Um where

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Speaker 1: receiving a two year extension where three point six million

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Speaker 1: um the other running back West we don't have the

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Speaker 1: info and him oh wow. Rapp Report added that West

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Speaker 1: received the same exact usual. It is very unusual. I

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Speaker 1: think it's brilliant though, because you basically take what could

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Speaker 1: be down the road your two running backs. Maybe no

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Speaker 1: even know Jamal Charles out of the picture. It's on point,

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Speaker 1: and you give them the same deal, so there's no

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Speaker 1: in locker room issues. And one guy's former sixth round pick.

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Speaker 1: One guy was undrafted. And let me just say this, Uh,

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Speaker 1: we don't spend a lot of time on this. Is

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Speaker 1: this is a smart move by Casey, but not groundbreaking.

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Speaker 1: But Daral Charles is twenty nine years old. Uh, he'll

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Speaker 1: be thirty by the end of this year, coming off

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Speaker 1: a second tour in a c L. He was still

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Speaker 1: one of the best running backs in the league last

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Speaker 1: year before he got hurt. He was on pace for

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Speaker 1: another amazing year. But does this maybe I feel like

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Speaker 1: the skids are being greased a little bit. Maybe not

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Speaker 1: for this year, but maybe next year when Charles is

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Speaker 1: thirty and he's still expensive. That maybe this is a

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Speaker 1: move made with an eye on the future. Without Jamal

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Speaker 1: Charles seems like an eye on the future. As far

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Speaker 1: as insurance policy that I think they're General manager John

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Speaker 1: Dorsey probably knows the history of running backs at that

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Speaker 1: age and the history of durability of running backs at

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Speaker 1: that age. It's not not a bad idea to have

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Speaker 1: two quality backups signed to reasonable deals. I mean, and

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Speaker 1: also with what we saw. You know, Kansas City went

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Speaker 1: one of those kind of freaky win streaks, but their

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Speaker 1: run game, in their offense in general, it did not

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Speaker 1: suffer without him in there. In fact, it seemed like

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Speaker 1: a more cohesive attack without everything being centered around him.

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Speaker 1: He wouldn't like hearing that. But the disturbing part of

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Speaker 1: this is that rabbit Bord also reported the Chiefs are

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Speaker 1: working to trade Nile Davis. Oh yeah, Connor or must

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Speaker 1: be uh thinking about maybe bringing him back to the

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Speaker 1: Nile miles too many running backs. That makes sense, by

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Speaker 1: the way. Actually, now they look at Jamal Charles contract,

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Speaker 1: I am thinking otherwise. He's do three point seven million

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Speaker 1: next year in bass salary, which is hardly um, you know,

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Speaker 1: extravagant with some bonus money, totally three million. But he's

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Speaker 1: not that expensive. He's no Adrian Peterson contracts. So I

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Speaker 1: guess they're just gonna roll with a full backfield. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And finally in the news, Um west Um wrote an

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Speaker 1: extended piece on the Around the NFL UH site about

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Speaker 1: Mike Shanahan receiving a phone call from none other than

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Speaker 1: Robert Griffin, the third Um now the Browns quarterback uh

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Speaker 1: r G three and Shannon had a falling out, of course,

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Speaker 1: at the end of their Washington tenure together, before Shanahan

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Speaker 1: got fired. Shanahan, let's face it got fired because RG

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Speaker 1: three um fell off after his amazing rookie year at

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Speaker 1: two thousand twelve. But here was RG three West thanking

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Speaker 1: Mike Shanahan for a glowing review UH following Shanahan's decision

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Speaker 1: to call who Jeff Fisher? It was an incredibly illuminating

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Speaker 1: interview with ESPN nine eighty in Washington, and I would say,

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Speaker 1: let's go through a few points here. The first thing

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Speaker 1: that jumped out to me. Nobody called Mike Shanahan, not

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Speaker 1: even John Elway and Gary Kubiak who worked under Mike

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Speaker 1: Shanahan and Denver I'm back to back Super Super Bowl teams.

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Speaker 1: Nobody called him. Shanahan took it upon himself to reach

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Speaker 1: out to Jeff Fisher and try to find a home

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Speaker 1: for Robert Griffin. The third because he believes this is

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Speaker 1: another thing stood out to me. He believes that if

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Speaker 1: r G three goes back to a zone read type

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Speaker 1: of offense with play action UH elements to it, that

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Speaker 1: that's his only chance of success. And here's another point,

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Speaker 1: that he made when r G three came back in

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Speaker 1: two thousand thirteen after the knee injury, which was Shanahan's

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Speaker 1: partially his fault in the first place. It wasn't Shanahan

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Speaker 1: who wanted to change the offense away from the read

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Speaker 1: option to a more conventional offense. It was RG three

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Speaker 1: who wanted to do that, and I remember hearing his

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Speaker 1: father was somehow involved in that too, But UH Shanahan

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Speaker 1: said he wanted to go in a different direction, which

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Speaker 1: I felt was a big mistake because we could have

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Speaker 1: gradually brought him there. There were a lot of interesting

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Speaker 1: revelations in this UH interview, but those were three of

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Speaker 1: the ones that jumped out. One other one that I

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Speaker 1: thought was great was that he Shannahan went after people

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Speaker 1: that talked about the read option and read option quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: no longer having anything to do with the NFL. Well.

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Speaker 1: He pointed to Russell Wilson as the prime example, and

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Speaker 1: if you look even back further, the the last four

525
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Speaker 1: Super Bowls have had read option quarterbacks. Cam Newton uses

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Speaker 1: elements of it, Colin Kaepernick did four years ago, and

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Speaker 1: then Russell Wilson, like he, I think there's a difference

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Speaker 1: between Russell Wilson and the other guys because he makes

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Speaker 1: such great decisions and his instincts are so good. But

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Speaker 1: Shanahan kind of pointed to that and said, anybody who

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Speaker 1: thinks the read option is still not successful basically are

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Speaker 1: people on TV not people having the game plan for that?

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Speaker 1: Call me a cynic. But that the one aspect of

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Speaker 1: the story that did leave me arching my eyebrow was

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Speaker 1: Shannahan saying it was Griffin's idea to change the offense.

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Speaker 1: I wonder if he asked Griffin if he would say

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Speaker 1: the same thing I that was kind of reported at

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Speaker 1: the time that did His father was involved with that,

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Speaker 1: Remember that his dad was like, we, well, why would

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Speaker 1: Mike Shanahan and his son be affected by what r

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Speaker 1: G three's dad had to say upstairs? Yeah? I mean, also,

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Speaker 1: was the idea that he would be less punished in

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Speaker 1: a exactly But Shanahan was opposite, right. I think it

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Speaker 1: was a move to protect r G three's future, which

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Speaker 1: in a way ended up hurting him because he's not

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Speaker 1: a pocket quarterback. Also, you know when you talk about

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Speaker 1: the RG three, Sagan Washington, the whole like Mission Week one,

548
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Speaker 1: whatever it was, it was one of his slogans, uh

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Speaker 1: that that race to be ready for the start of

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Speaker 1: the following season. I think everybody got caught up in

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Speaker 1: the hoopla of his return, and there's so many things

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Speaker 1: that went wrong in that season, and I think there

553
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:28,000
Speaker 1: was plenty of blame to go around Bruce Allen. There's

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Speaker 1: gonna be it's gonna be a great book about that,

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00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,959
Speaker 1: uh that one day there g M. Bruce Allen has

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00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,360
Speaker 1: come out admitted that that it was a horrible mistake

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Speaker 1: to rush him back for Week one and unfair to

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Speaker 1: the game of football. R G three released the tweet.

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Speaker 1: I think it was during it was because I remember

560
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Speaker 1: being at Radio City when it happened. It was the

561
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Speaker 1: draft and it was like mission complete or something because

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00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 1: he was cleared for offseason workouts or something, and it

563
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 1: was just like he had this whole slogan that he's

564
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Speaker 1: got to get rid of, the slogan earring in Cleveland,

565
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Speaker 1: and as Mark you know, and I've written about it, like,

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Speaker 1: I do not have a good feeling about this. But

567
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Speaker 1: if he's gonna have any chance, he's gotta RG three.

568
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Speaker 1: He's gotta wipe out all that stuff on the outside

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Speaker 1: and just be completely locked in with Hugh Jackson. Otherwise

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Speaker 1: this is just gonna delve into dark another dark period

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Speaker 1: for I mean they talk about if they talk about

572
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:22,360
Speaker 1: always humbled and he's reflective and he's grown. I think

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Speaker 1: part of it is not becoming a side show on

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Speaker 1: a team that does not need that right now, obviously

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Speaker 1: after what they went through with Manzel, well well Chris

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Speaker 1: and I'm talking about four though, at least if there's

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Speaker 1: any hope for r G three that he's gonna go

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Speaker 1: play under a coach and Hugh Jackson that is flexible

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Speaker 1: with his offense, first, someone trying to take r G

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Speaker 1: three and sticking him as some vanilla West Coast scheme

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Speaker 1: where he's just doing stuff that according to Shannahan and

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Speaker 1: not his gifts. I like the idea, but I mean

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Speaker 1: the problem is who's he gonna throw to, who's gonna

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Speaker 1: block for him, who's gonna hand the ball to? And

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00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:55,040
Speaker 1: you and I and Colleen we're talking about this at

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Speaker 1: the end of our NFL now hit that I'm pulling

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Speaker 1: for r G three. I feel like, and I think

588
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 1: Dan feels this way to the NFL is a more

589
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 1: fun league to when he's healthy and playing in a

590
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Speaker 1: system geared to hitch his strength. He can be one

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Speaker 1: of the most fun players in the league to watch

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Speaker 1: if he's anywhere close to the same guy physically. I

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00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:16,240
Speaker 1: still have some skepticism about that. Maybe the euro off

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00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:19,360
Speaker 1: will actually help him. We'll see. Uh. One last note,

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Speaker 1: um Jeff Cumberland nicknameed comby hashtag Comby how to work

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Speaker 1: out with the New England Patriots. Yeah, he wouldn't do

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00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:30,600
Speaker 1: that to me, though he's doing it to you right now.

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Speaker 1: We'll see. Well, if he signs, then you'll know that

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Speaker 1: I was double crossed. But we'll we'll just we'll detract that.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to. I don't have to declare vengeance

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Speaker 1: on Jeff Cumberland put it that way. Let's hope it

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Speaker 1: doesn't come to that. I feel like that was the

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Speaker 1: first use of double cross since the nineteen eighties cartoon.

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Speaker 1: Yeah about cross saying, uh, it was like nineteen thirties. Anyway, Okay,

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Speaker 1: that's it. That's what's happening in the news. Now, let's

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Speaker 1: talk about it. I know both West and Mark the

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Speaker 1: Kissing cousins, their dream is the one day, one day

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Speaker 1: be general managers in the NFL. We're a little late

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00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 1: to the game. It's never too late to um, you know,

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Speaker 1: follow your dreams. So this if if nothing else, you'll

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00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 1: always have today's segment, which is called You're the GM one, two, three,

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Speaker 1: five Slammers. So this is kind of a role playing game,

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Speaker 1: and I'm really looking forward to everyone really um committing

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Speaker 1: to their characters. Here, you'll um and Mark, why don't

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00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 1: you get us going? Because this was an idea that

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Speaker 1: you had pitched. So the you will take on the

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Speaker 1: identity of a general manager and you will be calling

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Speaker 1: someone else in the NFL. Uh, and either Wesser or

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Speaker 1: myself will play that other party involved in this phone call. Uh,

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Speaker 1: what do we got? All right? I Am going to

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Speaker 1: go to west with this one because I am let's

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Speaker 1: get the phone going. Wait, wait, wait a little quick

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Speaker 1: on a phone ring. He hasn't even nobody even knows

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Speaker 1: who they are yet, I have to say, though, I

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Speaker 1: didn't want him to just jump into it without the

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Speaker 1: phone that was fresh. I know that's coming. Now, what

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Speaker 1: are the I am Tennessee Titans general manager John Robinson

628
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Speaker 1: in his first year on the job, and you our

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Speaker 1: Cardinals general manager, Steve Kin. I'm taking you to the cleaner,

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Speaker 1: al right, here we go. All right, here we go.

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Speaker 1: I think he answered yeah. I think he answered you

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Speaker 1: totally cued me up for that too. Again, this is

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Speaker 1: a terrible start to the segment. Come here, Ki, John Robinson, here,

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Speaker 1: I need you to sit down for a minute. I

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00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 1: got an offer for you. All right, pull me over here, right?

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Speaker 1: Is this a video camera? Like a video I think

637
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Speaker 1: you know that despite the ring, I think it's a

638
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:56,720
Speaker 1: self two guys on the cells. Time's probably ponying up

639
00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 1: to the bar. All right, here's my proposal. I am

640
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 1: offering you the top overall pick in this year's draft,

641
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 1: along with next year's number two, in exchange for J. J.

642
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 1: Nelson and coach Bruce Arians Who didn't they out love us.

643
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 1: I'm the operator, at least in this game, we feel

644
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 1: the Titans. This is Patriot Act baby, the missing chip

645
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 1: to turning this team into an East Coast juggernaut. Well, look,

646
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 1: I appreciate the offer. Let's start. First of all, it's

647
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 1: it's enough to bull me over and make me think

648
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 1: about it. It's a lot you're putting on our table here.

649
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 1: But I have to tell you that we are in

650
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:41,920
Speaker 1: our super Bowl window. We I know you guys are

651
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 1: building over there in Nashville. You got a cute little

652
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 1: operation on their eyes. People kind of know who you

653
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 1: are now, you know when you got Marcus Mariota. I

654
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 1: don't blame you for coming after Bruce. He's one of

655
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 1: the best coaches in the NFL. But we work well together.

656
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:57,720
Speaker 1: We know how one hand washes the other. We have

657
00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 1: a great operation going on here, and we're gonna keep

658
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 1: Bruce and uh, like Matt Hasselbeck one said, we're gonna

659
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 1: go win the game. One thing, what if I take H. J. J.

660
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:08,760
Speaker 1: Nelson off the off the table, you get to keep Nelson.

661
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:11,839
Speaker 1: I didn't even hear you mention his name. All right, well, listen,

662
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 1: I got your number. Maybe I'll call you back another time.

663
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:17,960
Speaker 1: Thank you, John, Robbie, good luck in Nashville. That was civil,

664
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:20,759
Speaker 1: a nice civil conversation, even if nothing came out of it.

665
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:22,279
Speaker 1: Nothing came. That's how you gotta play the game. That

666
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:24,479
Speaker 1: you gotta have to send feelers all over the league.

667
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 1: That was a good feeling phone call. Um, All right,

668
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:30,799
Speaker 1: let me do one. Mark. I'm gonna give you a call.

669
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 1: You will be playing the role of Colts general manager

670
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:41,800
Speaker 1: Ryan Grigson. I will be Texans general manager Rick Smith.

671
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:48,400
Speaker 1: We're really looking forward to this phone call. I'm really excited.

672
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 1: Pick hey, Greggy here break bone? What up? Who is this?

673
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 1: This is Texans gym Rick Smith. How you doing? Rick?

674
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:02,319
Speaker 1: It'll interdivision call? How are you really great to talk

675
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 1: with another a f C South mind? How is everything? Well,

676
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:09,200
Speaker 1: you know there's some drama behind the scenes. Is always here,

677
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 1: but we're not allowed to let that leak this time

678
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 1: this year. Are you aware that you'll almost certainly be

679
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:18,239
Speaker 1: fired next year? Well you know they're Yeah, the the

680
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:22,480
Speaker 1: vice is closing around my head and neck region. But

681
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:24,760
Speaker 1: you know I'm being paid. Well I'll roll. Well, luckily,

682
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:28,399
Speaker 1: I'm here to help you save your job. I moved

683
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:30,960
Speaker 1: off your trade and I know a lot of people said,

684
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:34,239
Speaker 1: you know, we don't trade in division, but it could

685
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:36,880
Speaker 1: say both our jobs. I think you worked out for

686
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:40,399
Speaker 1: both of us. Well let me alright, here we go.

687
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:44,920
Speaker 1: How's NICKI? Blaine's by the way the cigar bar? Alright,

688
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:49,440
Speaker 1: get to it, all right. I got a player you

689
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 1: might be interested in. J. J. Watt. Ever heard of him? Yes?

690
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:54,440
Speaker 1: I have heard of him. Do you hear what's going

691
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 1: on with his core muscles? Have you been drinking I

692
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:01,440
Speaker 1: would like to trade you J. J. Watt m it's

693
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 1: gonna cost my ears are perked. I would like to

694
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:10,880
Speaker 1: also offer you one of the most talented young quarterbacks

695
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:14,399
Speaker 1: in the league right now, as evident when you look

696
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 1: at his salary. Brock Oswilder. All right, continue and I

697
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:27,560
Speaker 1: would like in exchange. You've been to Shakeshack lately, Yeah,

698
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:31,879
Speaker 1: I've been there. Do you like it? It's fine. There's

699
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 1: another side to this deal, Grigo, don't have a lot

700
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 1: of time. Third person. J. J. Watton brock Oswilder for

701
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 1: Andrew Luck. Let's do it. Let's do some business. You

702
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:45,239
Speaker 1: get a quarterback back, you get the greatest defensive player

703
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 1: of his generation. I get the quarterback that my oh,

704
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:51,879
Speaker 1: my owner. You know, Bobby Mick. He's on me every day.

705
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:55,239
Speaker 1: He said, no, brock it's a good signing. Now I

706
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:58,359
Speaker 1: want to go out and get Andrew Luck. Of course

707
00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:01,239
Speaker 1: he's coming off that injury. You get the quarterback, the

708
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:04,360
Speaker 1: year old quarterback and the great defensive player. Let's do

709
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:07,319
Speaker 1: let's do business. Here's why I can't do business with you.

710
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:11,440
Speaker 1: It's it's the massive blunder you made with the insane

711
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:13,919
Speaker 1: amount of guaranteed money. If you were going to put

712
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:15,719
Speaker 1: this guy on the table, and I knew that. Get me.

713
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:18,360
Speaker 1: That's right. Trying to get the old colts to bite

714
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 1: ain't gonna work. What if I throw in the first

715
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:25,279
Speaker 1: round pick? I gotta go hanging up the phone, damn it,

716
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:31,759
Speaker 1: Bye bye? All right? Did you ever I thought maybe

717
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:35,720
Speaker 1: I had a chance there. It's intriguing. You were intriguing.

718
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:43,879
Speaker 1: I am Raiders General manager, Reggie mackenzie. Dan you are

719
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:55,319
Speaker 1: Jets General manager. Mike mccagne. One rig, two rigs. Mike

720
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 1: mccagnan's office, Mikey mack This is sugar Bear at least

721
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 1: Big Mac here the biggest all max on Big Mac Mac.

722
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 1: This is sugar Bear, Sugar Bear over in the old town.

723
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:21,719
Speaker 1: What's up? Look you guys. Mohammad Wilkerson's got you over

724
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 1: a barrel right now, and I know that. Look you

725
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 1: want to get rid of them. You're dying to get

726
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 1: rid of them. The leopard have spots, Yes, okay, last

727
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:32,319
Speaker 1: year we touched space with you on MO. We wanted

728
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:34,880
Speaker 1: him at the time, after you drafted Leonard will Leonard Williams.

729
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 1: You know you you got too many defensive ends over there.

730
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:41,319
Speaker 1: It is an embarrassment of riches. You use a draft pick,

731
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:44,880
Speaker 1: maybe a nose tackle after you lose, after you lost snacks,

732
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:48,319
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna send you a second round pick

733
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:53,239
Speaker 1: and promising young nose tackle Justin Ellis, And I would

734
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 1: like Mo Wilkerson. I got, I got plenty of room

735
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:58,920
Speaker 1: under my cap. You don't so let me take Mo

736
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 1: off your hands. He'll be a key piece for us.

737
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:04,880
Speaker 1: You guys, get your second round picks, still a contender mode.

738
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:06,799
Speaker 1: We'll give you just an LS. You stick Williams and

739
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 1: Sheldon Richardson over there on the ends. Everybody wins. What

740
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 1: do you say? What was the draft pick? Second round pick,

741
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:21,840
Speaker 1: sugar Bear? Yeah, Mo is one of the great defensive

742
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:25,759
Speaker 1: lineman in the league. His ability to both play the run,

743
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:28,440
Speaker 1: get after the quarterback. You can move him around. He's

744
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 1: a chess piece. He's twenty five years old. He is durable.

745
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:36,640
Speaker 1: He is a good locker room guy. I would have

746
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:38,840
Speaker 1: him resigned already if I didn't have so many issues

747
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 1: with my own salary cap. Right now, this is a

748
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 1: first round talent, this is a potential Hall of Fame player,

749
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:47,720
Speaker 1: And you're not gonna give me a first round pick,

750
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 1: Sugar Bear, Mikey Mack. I'm a little disappointed at your

751
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:54,880
Speaker 1: basic knowledge of how the NFL works. Of course it's

752
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:58,239
Speaker 1: a first round talent, but basically I have to sign

753
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:00,160
Speaker 1: him as a free agent and give you up first

754
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 1: round pick. That's not how the NFL works. I would

755
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:06,920
Speaker 1: say to this, thank you for listening to my offer,

756
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 1: but have fun with your compensation. Pick next year, fourth

757
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 1: rounder and you're three and thirty record without a quarterback

758
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 1: this year, Enjoy that next twelve months and lose Mo

759
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 1: Wilkerson for nothing. Nice talking to Reggie. Enjoy another six

760
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 1: and ten um. Yeah, there should have, but there should

761
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:26,839
Speaker 1: have been some negotiations there. You could have gotten Big Mac.

762
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 1: That's not how sugar Bear works. I present you with

763
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:31,279
Speaker 1: a fair offer and you try to hold me over

764
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:34,560
Speaker 1: a barrel. Not things all right? I could have worked

765
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 1: with you. Maybe I was just testing you out. And

766
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:40,240
Speaker 1: then this is a glimpse behind the curtains. Sometimes feelings

767
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 1: get a little rankled. Well you really, I mean you

768
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:46,400
Speaker 1: went after Big Mac there? Well, Big Big Max should

769
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 1: have known. That's how you know. Wait and all seriousness.

770
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:51,279
Speaker 1: You think the Jets couldn't get a first round pick

771
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:53,400
Speaker 1: for Mo Wilkers. I I doubt they could get a

772
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 1: second I don't think there's any way they would trade

773
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 1: them without I mean, you're you're asking. I think they're

774
00:40:57,080 --> 00:41:00,120
Speaker 1: stuck in that situation because you're you nailed. You're to

775
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:02,719
Speaker 1: turn around and then contract negotiate with him, right, what

776
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:05,640
Speaker 1: But he's a he's a stud monster. Yeah, but when

777
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:07,880
Speaker 1: the Dolphins signed in Dominican sue, they didn't have to

778
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:12,360
Speaker 1: give up a first round pick and give him that contract. Um. Yeah, well,

779
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:14,839
Speaker 1: I mean I think he's The Jets got a first

780
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 1: rounder for Drrell Revis when they were in the same

781
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:18,400
Speaker 1: type of situation a couple of years ago. It's not

782
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 1: impossible to get a first round pick, uh in a

783
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:22,880
Speaker 1: trade like that, even when you're at an impass. But

784
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 1: Drrell Reevos is the greatest cornerback of his generation, fair enough.

785
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 1: That's why I don't think he'll get traded. I don't

786
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 1: think the Jets will take um a mid round pick,

787
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:33,440
Speaker 1: but second round. I guess it's not insulting. If we

788
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:35,279
Speaker 1: could have talked it out. You were in a rush

789
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:36,840
Speaker 1: to get off the phone, and I felt so you

790
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:39,560
Speaker 1: could have a second phone call down the road. Baby.

791
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 1: All right, Uh, Mark, you're up all right. My name

792
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 1: is Brown's executive VP of football Operations, Sashy Brown. Sashy,

793
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:52,239
Speaker 1: this is your dream right now. I'm sitting in a

794
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:55,920
Speaker 1: room in Cleveland, nice quiet, early spring, late winter day

795
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 1: in Cleveland. Got Paul deep Adesta City next to me,

796
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:02,959
Speaker 1: you know, and some pistachios. Hugh Jackson over in the corner.

797
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:04,520
Speaker 1: We've just been talking this thing up are. We're gonna

798
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 1: get on the phone right now and I'm gonna talk

799
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:09,800
Speaker 1: to old Danny boy, who's gonna play the role of

800
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 1: Falcon's GM Thomas Dimitrov m HM, Thomas Detro's office. Tommy,

801
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:41,720
Speaker 1: this is Tommy, Tommy. You got Paul de Podesta dancing

802
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:44,319
Speaker 1: with it? Well, this is Sashi. But I got Paul

803
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:46,319
Speaker 1: sitting next to me, and that little hold music got

804
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 1: him going. We're feeling good over here in Cleveland. I'm

805
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:51,760
Speaker 1: gonna tell you why we're building something original. I realized

806
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:54,600
Speaker 1: that every you know, reporter and talking head says, what

807
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 1: the hell is going on with that team? But we

808
00:42:57,320 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 1: are working behind the scenes. We're getting a lot of heat,

809
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:03,760
Speaker 1: a lot of offers for that number two pick. Because

810
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 1: you can do you can change your franchise and a

811
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:09,400
Speaker 1: team like the Falcons. You guys, you know you you

812
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 1: you are in a different situation than us. You could

813
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:14,360
Speaker 1: take a number two pick and really, really maybe thrust

814
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 1: yourself to the top of that NFC South. So let's

815
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 1: talk a little business, because I got an offer for you.

816
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:23,360
Speaker 1: You ready, I would like I mean, I got Lance Armstrong.

817
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:25,759
Speaker 1: We're going biking in a little bit, but I have

818
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:27,640
Speaker 1: a few minutes. Go ahead, all right, Okay, Well listen,

819
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:29,239
Speaker 1: I won't take too much of your time because this

820
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 1: won't take long for you to answer. Here's what I'm

821
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 1: in offer you our first round pick, number two overall,

822
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:43,759
Speaker 1: along with a franchise left tackling Joe Thomas, who, honestly, people, oh,

823
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:45,440
Speaker 1: we don't want to trade him. We want to give

824
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:47,759
Speaker 1: Joe Thomas the respect of not having to sit through

825
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 1: what will be a three or four year rebuild. But

826
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 1: we do need it rebuild. We're and Hugh Jackson doesn't

827
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:57,080
Speaker 1: like that word. He's he's grimacing over there. But here's

828
00:43:57,120 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 1: what we need for that number two pick and Joe Thomas.

829
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 1: We're looking at quarterback Matt Ryan. I was afraid you

830
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:05,920
Speaker 1: were gonna say that, I mean, sash about it. You're

831
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 1: literally in over your head. Do you even follow football?

832
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 1: I certain based follow it and I followed Matt Ryan

833
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 1: season last year. And here's what I think. I think

834
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:16,640
Speaker 1: you can basically double down and you can take a

835
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 1: quarterback that we love. We're fine taking Carson Wentz, but

836
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 1: we think that you plug in Carson Wentz with Joe

837
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 1: Thomas and left tackle, and the number two pick you

838
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:26,279
Speaker 1: can go get Jalen Ramsey or someone like that. I mean,

839
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:29,719
Speaker 1: you can completely remake your team and start over in

840
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 1: a good way. I'll tell you what, Sashi. And by

841
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:36,239
Speaker 1: the way, the narrative that the media is crafting about

842
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:40,239
Speaker 1: your franchise, it's slightly earned. Let's be fair. Well, you

843
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:43,280
Speaker 1: started your career in Cleveland, so you should have some sympathy.

844
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 1: Absolutely I did. How would I not know that I'm

845
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:47,640
Speaker 1: tough to be a vegan in Cleveland. I know it

846
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:50,439
Speaker 1: wasn't easy for you. Yes, Um, here's the thing. It's

847
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:54,279
Speaker 1: a very compelling offer. Matt Ryan just turned thirty or

848
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:58,680
Speaker 1: his turning thirty. I think he has a good six

849
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:01,400
Speaker 1: years left where he is a top ten type quarterback.

850
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:06,279
Speaker 1: So Joe Thomas great offer, and it fortifies our line.

851
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 1: I like that the number two pick. I love that,

852
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:12,080
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna need a little bit more to get

853
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 1: the deal done. And I'll tell you what I'm gonna need.

854
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:22,480
Speaker 1: Tell me, I'm gonna need a number one in two

855
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:26,399
Speaker 1: thousand nineteen. Excuse me, two thousand eighteen, Well, I gotta,

856
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 1: I gotta. I'll give you back. I'll give you back

857
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:34,800
Speaker 1: two thousand seventeen. Excuse me, I'll give you back a

858
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:37,960
Speaker 1: third rounder in two thousand seventeen. You you give me that.

859
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:40,960
Speaker 1: You got a deal, and Matt Ryan's your new franchise quarterback.

860
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:45,600
Speaker 1: That's a rich That's a steep that's a steep, steep price.

861
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 1: My friend, Um, I want to firsts in the next

862
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 1: two years. I want Joe Thomas and I also will

863
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 1: send you back Matt Ryan and a third round pick

864
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:57,960
Speaker 1: in two thousand seventeen. Let's do it. You want it.

865
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:00,239
Speaker 1: You came on this phone call, you waited through the

866
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:03,480
Speaker 1: Madonna cover. Now you gotta go and say let's do this.

867
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 1: Paul just passed out in the seat next to me.

868
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 1: I mean, that's our future. And you're looking at a

869
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:10,399
Speaker 1: team that you know we're gonna have a five first

870
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 1: round pick next year, and the Browns we're gonna take risks,

871
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 1: but the Browns are not going to be, you know,

872
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:19,880
Speaker 1: overly stupid about things. I want to make this steal

873
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 1: get done. I'll call you back with something else down

874
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:23,800
Speaker 1: the road, but we got other people to call. I

875
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:25,800
Speaker 1: think you're I think you're passing up something here, a

876
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:29,480
Speaker 1: chance to to really really turn the Falcons into a winner.

877
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:31,400
Speaker 1: You know your jobs on the line, buddy. Should you

878
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:36,799
Speaker 1: be a spring training Alright, I'm out of here, boy,

879
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:41,880
Speaker 1: look a turn for the worst there? Okay, West, you

880
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:45,640
Speaker 1: will be playing Los Angeles Rams general manager Less need

881
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 1: all right, I will be playing. Well we'll find out.

882
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:05,879
Speaker 1: Hello Less, Yes, sir, it's me the sheriff. Cut that meat,

883
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 1: cut that meat? Peyton ann it you again? Yeah, it's

884
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:16,160
Speaker 1: me again. Lass Uh. I want to play, Let me play.

885
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:19,520
Speaker 1: Let me that's all I'm gonna say. Well, last I'm not.

886
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:22,120
Speaker 1: Let's cut through all the bs, and I'm gonna make

887
00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:24,759
Speaker 1: a case before you say anything. I already have a case.

888
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:28,640
Speaker 1: Let me make the case. You're ready case. Keenum's terrible

889
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:31,359
Speaker 1: quarterback and you know that we gave him a first

890
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:34,759
Speaker 1: round tender for a reason. Nick Foles is a literal joke.

891
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:38,839
Speaker 1: Way to go guys with that contract. I have thrown

892
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 1: five nine touchdowns in the regular season, threw forty more

893
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:45,680
Speaker 1: in the playoffs. I got two rings, and I will

894
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 1: be your quarterback for five million dollars next year. That's

895
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:53,440
Speaker 1: Sanchez money, baby, Sign me up, Sign me up. You

896
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:55,399
Speaker 1: know I'm better than case Keenum. You know that I'll

897
00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:57,359
Speaker 1: I'll be another coach on the field. You know I'll

898
00:47:57,400 --> 00:48:00,840
Speaker 1: be a great bridge in Los Angeles one year, and

899
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:03,960
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. I've never felt better physically. I'm rejuvenated.

900
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:06,480
Speaker 1: You gotta trust me on this. I've been flying to Sweden,

901
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:10,799
Speaker 1: I've been throwing the ball with Todd Helton. I feel great.

902
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:13,800
Speaker 1: Let's make this happen. Peyton, With all due respect to

903
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:16,920
Speaker 1: the eighteen years you've put into this league and the

904
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:20,400
Speaker 1: legacy that you're gonna leave behind as one of the

905
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 1: top ten players in NFL history, I wouldn't got a

906
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:24,680
Speaker 1: lock the way this is starting. I wouldn't give you

907
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:28,920
Speaker 1: five dollars to play football, much less five million. I

908
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:31,319
Speaker 1: saw you playing a cotton picking minute here, I saw

909
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:33,279
Speaker 1: you play in the Super Bowl. I think it was

910
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:35,320
Speaker 1: a good idea to retire. I thought it was a

911
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:38,400
Speaker 1: beautiful announcement. You handled it well. I don't think you

912
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:40,200
Speaker 1: want to go back on that. I would advise you

913
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:42,600
Speaker 1: to take a look in the mirror, Peyton many Less.

914
00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:47,759
Speaker 1: I'm begging you. That's beneath you, sir. I need this.

915
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:52,600
Speaker 1: I cannot face myself in that mirror. If I'm not

916
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:56,120
Speaker 1: a football player. I'll tell you what. I've got an

917
00:48:56,160 --> 00:49:00,120
Speaker 1: offer for you. I don't want your life. I I've

918
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:04,359
Speaker 1: got an offer for you. I'm dead set on going

919
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:07,000
Speaker 1: into the season with case Keenum and finishing seven and nine,

920
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:10,359
Speaker 1: because that is my plan. It's my plan every year.

921
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:12,920
Speaker 1: And once they fired me, why don't you just come

922
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:15,560
Speaker 1: replace me as general manager of Los Angeles Rams. How

923
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:19,399
Speaker 1: about we work that out? All right, We'll we'll surf

924
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:21,880
Speaker 1: for this services conversation down the road. How about that?

925
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:26,080
Speaker 1: All right? But I can't stress enough. I cannot stress

926
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:30,400
Speaker 1: enough that you should never come out of retirement, stay

927
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:32,960
Speaker 1: where you are, and don't ever throw a pass again.

928
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:37,320
Speaker 1: Lest one last thing, I'll literally do anything if you

929
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:39,880
Speaker 1: let me be your quarterback this yew. I will be

930
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:43,399
Speaker 1: your valet, I will be your personal chef. I will

931
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:46,439
Speaker 1: take your kids to school. Don't make me go home.

932
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:49,720
Speaker 1: But I don't want to give you five billion dollars

933
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:56,279
Speaker 1: for that. Don't make me go home? All right? Wow? Uh?

934
00:49:56,480 --> 00:49:58,759
Speaker 1: Did you have another? One? Was sure? I had the one?

935
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:02,719
Speaker 1: All right? Do we have? I am good? I'm good?

936
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:05,040
Speaker 1: All right? Last one? Here we go west? All right?

937
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:08,840
Speaker 1: We got a three way trade going on here. I

938
00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:14,800
Speaker 1: am John Elway, Broncos GM, Dan you are Giants GM,

939
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:19,839
Speaker 1: Jerry Reese, Mark you are Bucks GM, Jason Light all right,

940
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:39,160
Speaker 1: New York Giants. Please hold does Jerry Reese? Trade is

941
00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:43,000
Speaker 1: not worth it? I'm hanging up. They're trades worth asive bass?

942
00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:46,520
Speaker 1: What what is that? I don't know what's going on?

943
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:50,920
Speaker 1: Who is this? Hey? This is John Elway. Oh it's you.

944
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:54,120
Speaker 1: It's up John Well. I just added to my man

945
00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:57,200
Speaker 1: to look in. Yeah. Well I got two rings. Yeah,

946
00:50:57,239 --> 00:51:00,319
Speaker 1: I got a few of them. Look, here's what you need.

947
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:02,600
Speaker 1: I look at your team. I know your jobs on

948
00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 1: the line. You have to win this year. You need

949
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:08,720
Speaker 1: a tackle. I got four time pro bowler Ryan Clady.

950
00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:12,120
Speaker 1: I'm flushed with tackles. I'm gonna send him your way.

951
00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:14,560
Speaker 1: And I can't figure out how to use Caddy. Cody Lattimer.

952
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:17,880
Speaker 1: You lost Ruben Randall. You can't count on Victor Cruz.

953
00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:20,719
Speaker 1: You need a wide receiver. I'm gonna look, here's what

954
00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:23,720
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do it for you, Pro Bowl left tackle

955
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:27,440
Speaker 1: Ryan Clady and Cody Lattimer. All I'm asking for is

956
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:29,800
Speaker 1: a third round pick, so I can turn around and

957
00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:33,880
Speaker 1: send that on the way to Tampa Bay. All right.

958
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:38,239
Speaker 1: You do know by the way that I um, I'm

959
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:40,400
Speaker 1: building a roster right now that we'll leave the franchise

960
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:43,799
Speaker 1: in ruins in two years. I figured that was your play. Yeah. Um,

961
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:45,799
Speaker 1: I have a lot of salary cap issues, so I'm

962
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:48,719
Speaker 1: gonna need to take it's a very nice offer. You're

963
00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:50,560
Speaker 1: gonna need to take back at least half of Ryan

964
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:57,520
Speaker 1: claydy salary. No, at least you're gonna offensively, man, I

965
00:51:57,640 --> 00:51:59,480
Speaker 1: know it was. Ryan Clady is a nice little thing.

966
00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:01,120
Speaker 1: You gotta You're gonna have to take back a little

967
00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:04,279
Speaker 1: that salary, and you gotta deal. Can't can't do just

968
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:06,719
Speaker 1: for the purposes of this bit in this segment, you

969
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:08,600
Speaker 1: should take back a little bit of money. I'll take

970
00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:13,640
Speaker 1: back seven making a million. You gotta deal, Okay, all right?

971
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:16,560
Speaker 1: And what about the other guy? What about what isn't

972
00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:18,680
Speaker 1: is there someone else on the phone call? Well, I

973
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:21,600
Speaker 1: got a call that put me patch him in. Okay,

974
00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:29,480
Speaker 1: this is confused, not done with you anymore. That was

975
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:34,680
Speaker 1: weird light, bright light, john Elway here, how you doing,

976
00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:36,840
Speaker 1: Johnny boy? Hey look, I just swung a tray with

977
00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:39,080
Speaker 1: Jerry Raise, just swinding him out of a third round pick.

978
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:42,239
Speaker 1: That's how we do it with the Giants, isn't it. Yeah,

979
00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:45,480
Speaker 1: trying to give me to take all of claydie salary back.

980
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:47,520
Speaker 1: I just dumped most of them on. Well listen, I

981
00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:50,840
Speaker 1: mean I'm still on the line. But the Giants a

982
00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:55,080
Speaker 1: respectable organization, very consistent. We hope to build something similar

983
00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:57,080
Speaker 1: down here. All right, I'm gonna go see you later. Okay,

984
00:52:57,239 --> 00:53:01,960
Speaker 1: see what a disaster they are still here. Okay, now

985
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:07,239
Speaker 1: we'll go. Look. Uh, you got Mike Glanning, and I

986
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:09,719
Speaker 1: know you've been you're you're The price you're asking for

987
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:11,880
Speaker 1: him has been exhorbit and you know we we know

988
00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:14,239
Speaker 1: it's a bad quarterback market. I don't blame you for

989
00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:17,319
Speaker 1: setting a high price. You've been asking for a first

990
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:19,920
Speaker 1: round pick all over the league, and nobody's gonna give

991
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 1: you that for for a cartoon Draffe, It's just not

992
00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:24,680
Speaker 1: gonna happen. But Here's what I'm willing to do. I

993
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:27,120
Speaker 1: just picked up an extra third. I've got an extra third,

994
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:30,480
Speaker 1: compensatory pick two. I'm gonna send one year way, and

995
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:34,319
Speaker 1: I'm willing to move down from thirty one to thirty nine.

996
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:36,479
Speaker 1: You get the number thirty one pick in the draft

997
00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:40,720
Speaker 1: plus a third rounder for Mike Glennon. Well that's compelling.

998
00:53:40,760 --> 00:53:42,400
Speaker 1: I mean, we believe a lot in Mike Glennon, and

999
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:44,239
Speaker 1: we're looking to have two quarterbacks here. You know, if

1000
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:47,000
Speaker 1: we lose Winston, what happens to us? I mean, I

1001
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:49,160
Speaker 1: I don't know. We were suddenly in the same situation

1002
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:51,080
Speaker 1: you are trying to find someone to back up our

1003
00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:54,880
Speaker 1: young franchise quarterback. I'll tell you what, uh you know,

1004
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:57,840
Speaker 1: I know you guys were looking at Kaepernick to you

1005
00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:00,400
Speaker 1: were looking at shopping looking a deal for and what

1006
00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:02,480
Speaker 1: was that a fourth rounder? What were you really looking forward?

1007
00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:04,239
Speaker 1: Was about fourth rounder? I didn't want to give up

1008
00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:06,360
Speaker 1: more than a fourth. Well, I think I think that

1009
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:08,840
Speaker 1: Colin Kaepernick, we know that he can be a headache

1010
00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:11,799
Speaker 1: inside the locker room. Mike Lannon is an absolute choir boy.

1011
00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:14,799
Speaker 1: This guy is a student of the game. So I'll

1012
00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:17,000
Speaker 1: tell I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna take this to

1013
00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:19,680
Speaker 1: my owner because he's very interested in Glennon. But let's

1014
00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:22,560
Speaker 1: give you a soft yes, because I think that we,

1015
00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:24,560
Speaker 1: you know, we we need to make a trade here.

1016
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:27,319
Speaker 1: We we need to sell until anyone actually watches enough

1017
00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:29,400
Speaker 1: of Mike Glennon realize he's not worth any of this.

1018
00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:31,880
Speaker 1: We're gonna need to sell him. I probably shouldn't have

1019
00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:33,799
Speaker 1: said that out loud, but I'm new with this job.

1020
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:36,400
Speaker 1: So but yes, a soft yes, gotta take it to

1021
00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:42,200
Speaker 1: the ownership group. I'll call you back. I got an

1022
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:45,680
Speaker 1: account on the other line. Alright, Uh, well, I'm gonna go.

1023
00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:48,879
Speaker 1: Your guy was benched from account. I'm in the middle

1024
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:51,040
Speaker 1: of dinner here, so let's just don't let anyone know

1025
00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:56,080
Speaker 1: that this call happens all oh way out. Well, there

1026
00:54:56,120 --> 00:54:57,800
Speaker 1: you have it, a little peek behind the curtain of

1027
00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:01,800
Speaker 1: the NFL guys. It's surprisingly how there is like a

1028
00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:06,960
Speaker 1: threat of incompetence that seems to cut through the entire league.

1029
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:09,200
Speaker 1: It couldn't have been it could It must have been

1030
00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:11,040
Speaker 1: a real it was a real look at how things work.

1031
00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:16,200
Speaker 1: Um that Bucks GM. He was like more overwhelmed than

1032
00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:18,840
Speaker 1: the Jaguars. GM and that drafting. No, no, no, you

1033
00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:22,839
Speaker 1: know I think he's you learned the job as you go. Yeah, um,

1034
00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:25,759
Speaker 1: he was learning it on the phone call. All right.

1035
00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:28,480
Speaker 1: That's Thursday's edition in the Round the NFL podcast. That

1036
00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:33,239
Speaker 1: was fun, guys. I enjoyed it. Uh. We will be

1037
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:37,960
Speaker 1: back on let's say Tuesday, We'll be back with another show. Um,

1038
00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:40,000
Speaker 1: just the three of us. Maybe we'll have a special

1039
00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:42,640
Speaker 1: guest sitting in. Maybe not. Who knows a lot of

1040
00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:45,080
Speaker 1: time can a lot of things could happen between now Tuesday.

1041
00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:49,160
Speaker 1: That's life. Uh. Make sure you check out the reddit page,

1042
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Speaker 1: which is, by the way, growing bigger and bigger. Almost

1043
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Speaker 1: seven hundred people now signed up for it. I think

1044
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1045
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Speaker 1: So keep on signing up. It's really a good place.

1046
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Speaker 1: And um, and we had a little meeting after the

1047
00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:07,360
Speaker 1: show yesterday. Uh we're gonna, um, you know, through the Irishman,

1048
00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:10,239
Speaker 1: reach out to the audience for some different things for

1049
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Speaker 1: the show. And you guys can help us out. Uh.

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Speaker 1: So I really liked the idea of what the subreddit

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Speaker 1: can do uh for the show in terms of communication

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Speaker 1: between the heroes and the audience. So check it out

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Speaker 1: www dot reddit dot com, slash r slash around the NFL,

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Speaker 1: and um, have your voice be heard? Question? You know,

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Speaker 1: because I don't what's the difference between a reddit and

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Speaker 1: a subreddit? I don't know? Okay, do you know Irishman? Nope,

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Speaker 1: but I'll figure it out when I go. Yeah, maybe

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Speaker 1: it's something to look up. Also, the iTunes challenges going

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Speaker 1: on still, Um, we're trying to see we can goose

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Speaker 1: the podcast up the rankings, the iTunes rankings. Uh, it

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Speaker 1: could have positive impact on the show. We know we

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Speaker 1: have the audience. It's just a matter of uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: letting the Shadowy League figures know that. So if you

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Speaker 1: can go two iTunes, Uh, leave it a comment good

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Speaker 1: or bad, we don't care. But give us that five

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Speaker 1: star rating and let's see if we can beat uh

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Speaker 1: Steve Jobs. Don't you have a hamtag? What's that? Oh?

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Speaker 1: Hashtag iTunes challenge? Hashtag purity is pure. Yeah. And finally, uh,

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Speaker 1: connor Or getting married in less than forty eight hours. Uh,

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Speaker 1: congratulations to connor Or Uh who I'm sure she'll say

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Speaker 1: yes and he will will say yes as well. That's

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Speaker 1: usually how this goes. That's the report and then they

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Speaker 1: will go on their honeymoon, and then a new phase

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Speaker 1: for Connor or starts um and a new phase for

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Speaker 1: the Portland's Portland River Hogs. Whether he realizes it or not,

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Speaker 1: I think the franchise is gonna start going dark from

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Speaker 1: period for periods. Absolutely, you cannot be the all in,

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Speaker 1: sort of behind the scenes maniac when you've got other responsibilities.

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Speaker 1: But anyway, getting married is fun then, as is the honeymoon,

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Speaker 1: which is coming up next to Congratulations Connor. That's it

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Speaker 1: for another edition of the Around the End of podcast.

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Speaker 1: My name is Dan Kansas, signing up four Quiet Storm,

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Speaker 1: A Man Man and the o Irishman Behind the Glass

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Speaker 1: till Thursday. M m hm