Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, Welcome to Creature Feature, the show where we
Speaker 1: explore the consciousness of humans and animals and get all
Speaker 1: scrambled up like Jeff Goldbloom in The Fly. I'm Katie Golden.
Speaker 1: I studied psychology and evolutionary biology at Harvard, and I
Speaker 1: fight for avian rights on Twitter. Today on the show,
Speaker 1: we're exploring the Seven Deadly Sins. A theme of this
Speaker 1: show has been the differences between humans and the rest
Speaker 1: of the animal kingdom, and what could be more human
Speaker 1: than our faults are pride, wrath, sloth, greed, lust, envy,
Speaker 1: and gluttony. But let the species who is without sin
Speaker 1: cast the first stone. The animal world is guilty of
Speaker 1: these transgressions in ways that you might not expect. I
Speaker 1: also want to discuss the science behind these so called
Speaker 1: human sins in texts that may not be holy but
Speaker 1: are certainly pure view. Joining me today is Katie Stole, actor,
Speaker 1: co host of Even More News, producer of Some More
Speaker 1: News and overall great gal. Hi, this is what I
Speaker 1: can talk now. I'm happy to be here. You got
Speaker 1: all my things right, You got my name right. People
Speaker 1: might think we have the same name, but we don't. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's a subtle pronunciation difference. So her name is kat Y,
Speaker 1: mine is ka t i E. So yours is like
Speaker 1: a Katie Katie and minds Katie. Well, I just take
Speaker 1: some personality into it, and we put some extra inflection
Speaker 1: in there, and you really start to see a subtle
Speaker 1: difference come out between two different spellings. What's your short
Speaker 1: for Katherine? Minds Kathleen? See, wow, big difference. We're night
Speaker 1: and day. I'm thrilled that my parents didn't go with
Speaker 1: Kathy or like Karen. Well, Karen's not short for what
Speaker 1: would karen b short water? I think that's just itself.
Speaker 1: I'm really sorry everyone named Karen or Karen, Karen, Karen Essica,
Speaker 1: Karen Essica. I'm sorry for all the Karen's. We're just
Speaker 1: dismissing your We're being really mean, Like your name is
Speaker 1: something you're born with, but with apology, I mean, can
Speaker 1: change it. But like I apologize in advance to every
Speaker 1: care and out there. But Karen is a name I
Speaker 1: associate with like a coworker that doesn't have a sense
Speaker 1: of humor, sort of like it's the same as like
Speaker 1: a dinnis Well, it's a punchline name, right, And I'm
Speaker 1: really Sorcaren Dennis Dennis, Karen, Yeah, you came to casual
Speaker 1: Friday wearing non casual clothes. How dare you? She karend it,
Speaker 1: she carried it. Honestly, Kathy kind of has that same connotation.
Speaker 1: So thanks Mom and dadd Well Kathy, and I'm sorry
Speaker 1: to all the Kathy's out there. I do share a
Speaker 1: name with you. It's not your fault. This is it's
Speaker 1: not really kind of unfair that you get that bad
Speaker 1: rap just because you're a character. Kathy, Kathy. I think
Speaker 1: you can blame on that cartoon and AC. Yeah, AC,
Speaker 1: the one where it's a middle aged woman going through
Speaker 1: life struggles and it's always like, oh, no, I gained
Speaker 1: a weight. No, I want to eat something. But I'm
Speaker 1: a woman and I'm not frizzy. I can't boys, I
Speaker 1: can't boys at all. Listen, Kathy, Kathy, Kathy, You're on
Speaker 1: a very familiar basis with the comic stars. When we
Speaker 1: get each other, you see, I relate. So let's first
Speaker 1: talk about pride. This may be one of the biggest
Speaker 1: criticisms launched at millennial in youth culture right now, that
Speaker 1: we're all a bunch of self obsessed egoists. Generally speaking,
Speaker 1: I'm tired of people being criticized for their makeup and
Speaker 1: fashion choices. If you don't want to wear makeup, rock on,
Speaker 1: but also wear sunscreen. I think adorning ourselves is, as
Speaker 1: we'll soon discuss, a very natural and perfectly healthy behavior.
Speaker 1: But there is a trend I'm genuinely concerned about. It's
Speaker 1: Instagram perfection. It's a subsection of Instagram devoted to carefully
Speaker 1: cultivated looks of being perfect, with flawless skin, cellulite free bodies,
Speaker 1: impossibly slender torsos are perfectly circular butts often achieved with
Speaker 1: photoshop face tune or careful photographed angles. The insidious thing
Speaker 1: about instagrams, say, compared to advertisement, is that it's often
Speaker 1: carefully crafted to seem candid. Sometimes models or celebrities will
Speaker 1: post no makeup selfies though they're still apparently wearing eyelash extensions,
Speaker 1: photo filters, and foundation. I'm worried this will give young
Speaker 1: people unrealistic expectations that they're supposed to look naturally flawless.
Speaker 1: So I looked into the research. There's a Flanders University
Speaker 1: study that examined the effects of viewing Instagram selfies on
Speaker 1: body image. The researchers found that when participants viewed the
Speaker 1: Instagram profiles of celebrities and fears, they experienced increased body
Speaker 1: dissatisfaction and a more negative mood. This only work when
Speaker 1: viewing selfies, there is no such effect, and doing travel images. Also,
Speaker 1: there wasn't a significant difference in effect when viewing celebrities
Speaker 1: versus peers. This sounds pretty dystopian, and I'm sure there
Speaker 1: are people out there who blame the darn millennials for
Speaker 1: being too self obsessed, But I'm not so certain it's
Speaker 1: this generation who is to blame, or last generation, or
Speaker 1: even the generation before that. Actually, I think body images
Speaker 1: deeply entrenched in our evolutionary history. In fact, even animals
Speaker 1: far away on the evolutionary tree have been caught trying
Speaker 1: to keep up their appearances. You know, we might think
Speaker 1: we have it tough with fashion, but if you will
Speaker 1: join me on an imagination journey, I'm ready for um.
Speaker 1: Imagine if like the fashion police were real, so if
Speaker 1: you didn't dress yourself well enough, like they would arrest
Speaker 1: you or even kill you. So like, like it just
Speaker 1: totally dystopia, dystopian, horriful, horful, horrible, horrorful. Um. And so
Speaker 1: like if you or socks with sandals, which I'll admit
Speaker 1: is not a good look, not a good look, but comfortable. Sure,
Speaker 1: I've certainly there have certainly been times when I wanted
Speaker 1: to wears with sandals, right right, Well, the not the
Speaker 1: ones that like, not the thong sandals that go between
Speaker 1: the toes, because that's just your you're setting yourself up
Speaker 1: for failure, right, But like with your birkenstocks for socks, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I've warned my socks with my broken stalk. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's that's perfectly fine to me. But you know, in
Speaker 1: this society, like if you did that, you would be
Speaker 1: just summarily execute I should in this in the fantasy society,
Speaker 1: not the current one, I would be ostracized perhaps, right right,
Speaker 1: but you know, like we're we're projecting maybe five or
Speaker 1: ten years in the future where this will be the reality. Okay,
Speaker 1: so I need to prepare for it, right right. And
Speaker 1: like if you mix silver and gold jewelry, you're sent
Speaker 1: to Gulag. And um, you know, actually I found out
Speaker 1: why we don't mix silver and gold jewelers. So you're
Speaker 1: supposed to wear jewelry that matches your skin undertone, and
Speaker 1: apparently you have like a cool undertone or a warm undertone,
Speaker 1: and like silver goes well with cool undertones and as
Speaker 1: well with warm undertones. And if so, that's like if
Speaker 1: you wear both, like at least one of them is
Speaker 1: going to be wrong for your skin tone. And if
Speaker 1: you do that, like you're just gonna look hideous. Just
Speaker 1: you're gonna look whack. No one's gonna ever love you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just gonna you'll have failed as. They can't sl
Speaker 1: it out, you cancel each other out. All you see
Speaker 1: is awful. Yeah, Like if you wear a like gold
Speaker 1: earrings and like a silver neckclas, like when people look
Speaker 1: at you, they can't make out what you are. It's
Speaker 1: sort of like you're just this shifting image of their
Speaker 1: Like I'm not sure if you're pretty or like like
Speaker 1: a Cathulu bees. Yeah, like I can't. I can't get
Speaker 1: a vibe on your undertones, So I don't even know
Speaker 1: who you are anymore. Right, Well, so I bring this
Speaker 1: up because in the handimal Kingdom, Uh, good fashion sense
Speaker 1: can actually save a life. Oh really yeah? So, uh,
Speaker 1: first I want to go under the sea. Okay, where
Speaker 1: I'm not going to say the lyrics to the song.
Speaker 1: I just really I was going to do a cute
Speaker 1: thing where I was going to say those lyrics to
Speaker 1: that song. It's not it wouldn't go well, but because
Speaker 1: of a certain powerful group that out there. You guys
Speaker 1: all know what we're talking about, right, you get it?
Speaker 1: Let that be stuck in your head. Singing sea creatures.
Speaker 1: Just imagine generic off brands singing anyways. Decorator crabs adorn
Speaker 1: themselves with decadent jewelry found in their environment. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: little bits of help or seaweed and even beautiful living
Speaker 1: jewelry like an enemies, sponges and brio zones, which are
Speaker 1: these invertebrates that kind of like like eyelashy, flowery things,
Speaker 1: creepy pretty. I think they're creepy pretty. I I have
Speaker 1: a prejudice against things under the sea. They scare me.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but I'm I'm sure it's beautiful. Do you
Speaker 1: have glassophobia or the thing where it's like the fear
Speaker 1: of the depths kind of? I mean, I've never had
Speaker 1: that diagnosed, but it makes me very nervous. It might
Speaker 1: be that my mom told me that I would drown
Speaker 1: if I went in the ocean when well, she's half correct.
Speaker 1: I'm afraid of swimming in the ocean, but I'm not
Speaker 1: like afraid of the animals I am specifically, Uh, get
Speaker 1: started getting in my head about the animals underneath the water.
Speaker 1: But that's not what we're here to talk about. We
Speaker 1: here to talk about prides are so cute. These are
Speaker 1: fancy crowd. I'm just going to picture them in in
Speaker 1: the animated way, right, and a generically animated generically specific
Speaker 1: so uh, it's really they put on a really bold look.
Speaker 1: Like if you look at these decorator crabs, they're very
Speaker 1: fancy and their outfit kind of depends on their environment,
Speaker 1: so it's whatever is around them so that they can
Speaker 1: create this natural camouflage. And in fact, you can put
Speaker 1: one of these crabs in a fish tank and if
Speaker 1: you put jewelry in the fish tank, they will put
Speaker 1: the jewel That's real cute. It's super cute. So we
Speaker 1: watched a video of the decorator crab putting on lace
Speaker 1: and we did pearl beads. Oh that was I mean, listen,
Speaker 1: absolutely incredible seeing them decorating themselves. But they are horrifying,
Speaker 1: and I kind of understand why they want to decorate it.
Speaker 1: They don't have a great like baseline to work with.
Speaker 1: Try and they've got like a real kind of milky
Speaker 1: yellowish color, very fuzzy. Well, the reason they look so
Speaker 1: like sort of fuzzy is because they have these little
Speaker 1: barbs on their body that work like vel crows, so
Speaker 1: that they can stick things on it will actually stick.
Speaker 1: They're called sette. I mean, yeah, that sounds like some
Speaker 1: sort of French seeing a sette style. Um, yeah, it's
Speaker 1: very funny seeing these crabs with their jewelry dragging behind.
Speaker 1: They scrape along the bottom of the ocean floor. Were
Speaker 1: king the runway, just the ocean. They are working it, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you can say that for sure. Yeah, whatever it is
Speaker 1: they're working. So this isn't just found underwater. Assassin bugs
Speaker 1: will wear their dead prey as trophies. They wear their
Speaker 1: the skins of their enemy like su oh god one
Speaker 1: more like a backpack, more like a back So this
Speaker 1: is actually to protect them from even scarier predators. So
Speaker 1: I have a picture here it makes one of these
Speaker 1: bugs is that big lumpy thing on its back that's
Speaker 1: all dead ants, dead ants. A pile of dead aunt,
Speaker 1: big pile of dead ants. As a backpack and what
Speaker 1: was this guy called again? Assassin It's not even more specific,
Speaker 1: it's just a generic assassin bug. Right. I feel like
Speaker 1: it starts out strong with the assassin part of this name,
Speaker 1: where it's like, Okay, this is threatening, and then bug, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it gives me no clue is to look kind of bug.
Speaker 1: It'd be like, I mean a killer bug. I mean
Speaker 1: the bug is called the assassin bug. That is its name.
Speaker 1: It's just like bug does seem really just right, but
Speaker 1: like like a a scorpion or right, right, it's a bug.
Speaker 1: It's a bug. It kind of makes me think of like,
Speaker 1: say you have an assassin but his name is Dennis
Speaker 1: or Karen like Astis or karenin Um. So they're found
Speaker 1: in Africa and Malaysia and Um. One of the reasons
Speaker 1: that they do this so they specifically use ants, not
Speaker 1: any type of prey that they find, because they researchers
Speaker 1: think that this is that spiders, who are potential predators
Speaker 1: of assassin bugs, are pretty wary of attacking ants because
Speaker 1: ants will swarm them, and assassin bugs don't have this
Speaker 1: word because they're very specialized for preying on ants. In fact,
Speaker 1: some of the species of assassin bugs, So feather legged
Speaker 1: assassin bugs, which sounds I know, really fancy. They have
Speaker 1: a scent that's attractive to ant, so like an ant
Speaker 1: will conder away from the group and then they can
Speaker 1: just kill that one ant and then put it on
Speaker 1: their backpacks. So they kill them specifically for protection. Well, no,
Speaker 1: they eat them too. They eat them. It's a it's
Speaker 1: like it's a two and one, like it's a nice snack.
Speaker 1: And then it'd be like, you know, you go to
Speaker 1: in and outer burger king and then you just put
Speaker 1: all of your waded up back wrappers on your back
Speaker 1: to like to keep away the boys. Yeah, keep away,
Speaker 1: that is, I mean, I think that's a very effective
Speaker 1: way to keep away boys. Sure. I mean it's worked
Speaker 1: for me, so I do really the assassin bug in
Speaker 1: that regard. Yeah, it's your it's your fast food camouflage
Speaker 1: they can't even see you or other camouflage for women
Speaker 1: is just being older than forty yep. Okay, that's when
Speaker 1: you disappear. That's when we Yeah. Yeah, so I should
Speaker 1: just start killing older ladies and wearing their skin on
Speaker 1: my back to keep the men away. I'm legally going
Speaker 1: to say no. Yeah, I'm not gonna do that. I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna take your bad advice. Um So, not all
Speaker 1: fashioned is meant to mask your pearance. Uh, sometimes you
Speaker 1: want to be noticed. Um. So, bearded vultures will wear
Speaker 1: makeup to attract mates. Really. Yeah, so they rub their heads, necks,
Speaker 1: and butts in iron rich soil that gives them a
Speaker 1: sun kissed, reddish hue. I can relate to that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they get a nice tan. Yeah. Where do they live?
Speaker 1: So they're in Europe, Asia and Africa. Um, and they
Speaker 1: live in sort of mountain areas. Uh. And so the
Speaker 1: reason they want to look tan and beautiful is it's
Speaker 1: like a status symbol. So older, more dominant bearded vultures
Speaker 1: will have more vibrant colors. So if you're young and
Speaker 1: dull looking, you gotta fake it till you make it.
Speaker 1: I like that. I like that they're trying to look older. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I like that that. I know, I know exactly. It's
Speaker 1: it's like being mature is not seen as like, oh
Speaker 1: you're not pretty parts. Like the older you get, the
Speaker 1: sexier you, which I think is true honestly for us. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I agree, because like the older you are, the more
Speaker 1: confident you are and the more you understand things. So
Speaker 1: it's like older people understand how to be a responsible
Speaker 1: partner better, which is a big turn on. There's kind
Speaker 1: of a window, say, after a while it starts to
Speaker 1: turn but like, yeah, I agree, I'm I'm not happy
Speaker 1: here now than in my twenties. Feel like old people
Speaker 1: are constantly banging, you know, banging. Yeah they are. I mean,
Speaker 1: wasn't the secret rise of STDs like a big thing
Speaker 1: different like senior living communities, because I mean probably they
Speaker 1: feel like we're out of danger because they do. I've
Speaker 1: been good in my whole life. Let's let luc and
Speaker 1: have some fun. My husband's been gone for a while
Speaker 1: now I might as well. I feel like that's really
Speaker 1: mean of nature to give you STDs when you're eighty,
Speaker 1: because it's like like but like, also do they care?
Speaker 1: I don't know what care. It's like at that point,
Speaker 1: it's one more thing that's uncomfortable. I don't know. But okay,
Speaker 1: So these bearded vultures they want to look older. They
Speaker 1: rub their butts and ship and then they get a
Speaker 1: nice dirt tan, which I feel like tans are also
Speaker 1: like a status symbol for people because it's like I'm
Speaker 1: so rich, I have time to tan go to the
Speaker 1: tanning is the luxury. Yeah, and it will aid you premature. Absolutely.
Speaker 1: So we're just like vultures, bearded vultures. Um. So we
Speaker 1: can't end our section on Pride without first talking about flamingos.
Speaker 1: These are the fancy walk and pink birds. Um. And
Speaker 1: they also like to use makeup, so a bit of
Speaker 1: pink blush during mating season. Uh. And so their feathers
Speaker 1: aren't always pink. Sometimes they fade to a more white
Speaker 1: hue after breeding. Uh. And one way to enhance that
Speaker 1: pink color is by brushing a special oil over their
Speaker 1: feathers that increases their vibrancy. So I know what you're thinking, Katie.
Speaker 1: Where where does this oil come from? Yes, it was
Speaker 1: what I was thinking. Well, if you've been listening to
Speaker 1: the show, you might already be able to guess it
Speaker 1: comes from butt glands. It's always butt glands makeup. So
Speaker 1: there's a special gland near the flamingo's tail that they
Speaker 1: rub it on their beaks and then they just spread
Speaker 1: it on themselves like flamingo butt jam over some flamingo
Speaker 1: toast that it probably feels pretty good. Yeah. And it
Speaker 1: makes them, It makes them pinker, it makes their feather's
Speaker 1: more vibrants, so that their mates are like, wow, you're
Speaker 1: beautiful and just listening with butt use yuck. No, that's
Speaker 1: great for them. I'm glad that that works out because
Speaker 1: they need to get the stuff out of their glands
Speaker 1: probably anyway. Repurpose, Yeah, I mean that's a really like
Speaker 1: I mean, we talk about like, you know, natural holistic
Speaker 1: um make up, you know, cruelty free. What could be
Speaker 1: less cruel than getting it directly from your button? You
Speaker 1: are right right, it's repurposing your own stuff, really budget friendly,
Speaker 1: animal friendly makeup. Listen. I'm not going to take their
Speaker 1: makeup tips, but I respect them. I mean I would
Speaker 1: be interested to try it. I mean not with obviously,
Speaker 1: not with my own but that being but but yeah,
Speaker 1: I'd be chill about it. I wouldn't be like rude
Speaker 1: and mean about it, but just like, hey, can I
Speaker 1: can I try something? Just a bit of warning it
Speaker 1: might react differently with your skin there, right, right, but
Speaker 1: just like just like you know, like when you're when
Speaker 1: you're like with your girlfriends, you're like, hey can I
Speaker 1: try that? Like or whatever? Yeah? Yeah, but with a
Speaker 1: flamingo and like it would probably try to like pick
Speaker 1: my face off, but you know, maybe not, maybe not.
Speaker 1: You're an adventurous gal. I like it for anyone who
Speaker 1: thinks the current generation is too self obsessed. Sorry, but
Speaker 1: humanity has been prideful for a hell of a long time. Recently,
Speaker 1: archaeological evidence off the coast of South Africa was uncovered
Speaker 1: that found pigments thought to be used as makeup from
Speaker 1: a hundred and sixty four thou Zan years ago. Jewelry
Speaker 1: was also found that dates back some one hundred thousand
Speaker 1: years ago beats men out of simple seashells. It's a
Speaker 1: big deal in the world of archaeology, not just because
Speaker 1: the necklaces were fetch but because it shows humans have
Speaker 1: been capable of tool use and symbolic thought far longer
Speaker 1: than originally speculated. We're going to take a quick break
Speaker 1: so I can rub some flamingo butt juices on my
Speaker 1: face to make myself beautiful. We'll be right back. So
Speaker 1: now we're going to talk about wrath. Is wrath scientifically
Speaker 1: quantifiable in humans? Researchers basically set up a lab eBay.
Speaker 1: Participants in the study could bid on an item and
Speaker 1: the highest bidder would win the item. But there's a twist.
Speaker 1: If you wont you only paid the amount of the
Speaker 1: second highest bid, So this leaves a lot of room
Speaker 1: for spite because here's the thing. Participants get to see
Speaker 1: who the highest current bidd is, and if they don't
Speaker 1: want to match that price, they can, at no cost
Speaker 1: to themselves, increase the second highest bids, so the winner
Speaker 1: has to pay more. So here's an example. You're bidding
Speaker 1: on a precious moment's figuring and near the end the
Speaker 1: researchers announced that the highest bid is two hundred dollars.
Speaker 1: So your current bid is only ten dollars, and you
Speaker 1: don't want to pay two hundred dollars, but you have
Speaker 1: a choice. You could resubmit your current bid of ten dollars,
Speaker 1: which would mean you have no impact on the auction
Speaker 1: and you don't lose any money, you don't win the prize,
Speaker 1: but you cause no harm to anyone. But if you're
Speaker 1: feeling like a real turd, what you could do is
Speaker 1: bid a hundred and ninety nine dollars and nine cents,
Speaker 1: ensuring that the winner of the auction has to pay
Speaker 1: the maximum amount of money. Because you're a total asshole.
Speaker 1: The researchers found that there are indeed a lot of assholes.
Speaker 1: So three d and eight three out of seven hundred
Speaker 1: sixty eight closing bids were quote potentially spiteful. They counted
Speaker 1: bids as spiteful they were more than a losing bidders
Speaker 1: initial bid and no greater than the current winning bid.
Speaker 1: Of these spiteful bids were maximally spiteful, meaning the bidder's
Speaker 1: bid one increment of money under the winning bids, so
Speaker 1: that example bidding and nine cents under the bid just
Speaker 1: so that the winner had to pay as much as possible.
Speaker 1: So surely only humans could be so petty. Well hold
Speaker 1: onto your opposable funds there, because there's an animal that
Speaker 1: takes spite to a whole new disgusting level. So Katie,
Speaker 1: you want to go to you imagination station again to
Speaker 1: toot all aboard the brain express. So imagine that you're
Speaker 1: eyeing like a half eaten pizza that you're at like
Speaker 1: a pizzeria, and someone's like finishing up there paying the
Speaker 1: bill and they've just left this pizza out, been there, yeah,
Speaker 1: and you're like, all right, box it up. But they don't, Katie,
Speaker 1: they don't box it up, just leave it. They just
Speaker 1: leave it there, and they're they're about to walk out,
Speaker 1: and you're looking at this pizza like, well, maybe i'll
Speaker 1: eat it. Then I'm hungry for pizza at the moment, right, right,
Speaker 1: I mean like also, just like you know, you're wasting
Speaker 1: food and it's a pizza, so it's like not something
Speaker 1: people's saliva, and it's untouched. There's no cooties on it,
Speaker 1: so it's like perfectly good food. But the person who's
Speaker 1: leaving like sees you eyeing their pizza, they unzip their
Speaker 1: pants and then they pee on it, Okay, just to
Speaker 1: like market Yeah, just you from eating that pizza. Sounds
Speaker 1: like a real human, right, I mean I think you're
Speaker 1: catching on to the theme of this podcast. But I
Speaker 1: mean I can't imagine doing something so out of pure
Speaker 1: so petty, so right, I mean, just like peeing on
Speaker 1: something just to make sure that someone else else doesn't
Speaker 1: can't enjoy it. So would you like like something to
Speaker 1: keep someone else from eating it? I mean probably as
Speaker 1: a kid, sure, I Mean that's something that kids do
Speaker 1: all the time. They're like, I liked it, it's mine,
Speaker 1: it's mine. I've claimed of it. Yeah, that's definitely a
Speaker 1: very childlike thing where they don't understand just because they
Speaker 1: don't have to keep it for themselves, they don't have
Speaker 1: to take it, they don't have to claim it's mine.
Speaker 1: It's sort of like a food or toy hoarding in
Speaker 1: stick that you kind of have to be trained not
Speaker 1: to do. Uh, Like I do remember, like like, there
Speaker 1: was a cupcake day at school once and I was
Speaker 1: too full to eat a cupcake, ate too many of
Speaker 1: those goldfish um and I but I took a cupcake
Speaker 1: and I was like, I was like, well, to protect
Speaker 1: the cupcake, I gotta lick all the off you got, Well,
Speaker 1: you lick all the frosting off, and then you save
Speaker 1: that because the frosting. In my opinion, I know this
Speaker 1: is controversial. The frosting is the bullshit part. The real
Speaker 1: part is that cakey goodness. It's not controversy. Listen, frosting
Speaker 1: is kind of bullshit. But I kind of think that
Speaker 1: together it goes well. Your cupcake is better for at
Speaker 1: least a little bit of frosting. But as a child,
Speaker 1: you don't get you don't understand the complexity of multiple
Speaker 1: flavors combining right on your palate. It's more I just
Speaker 1: want this chunk of chocolate cake. It's more like about
Speaker 1: no one else having it, right, Because what happens is
Speaker 1: when you lick off the frosting off a cupcake. When
Speaker 1: it leaves is a slimy coat you don't want saliva,
Speaker 1: and it glistens in a way that's very unappealing to
Speaker 1: anyone but you. And then I saved it for you know,
Speaker 1: and then like, but I did learn when you lick
Speaker 1: off the frosting of a cupcake and you let that
Speaker 1: thing sit there for about half an hour, it's not great.
Speaker 1: That's what I mean. Like you've ruined it for yourself
Speaker 1: as well. Yeah, because there's something it's funny because like
Speaker 1: when you swallow your own spit happens all the time.
Speaker 1: It's in your mouth. I just did it. It's in
Speaker 1: your dang mouth. I'm doing it all the time. Happens
Speaker 1: all the time on this podcast. But if you spit
Speaker 1: in a cup and then you try to drink it, suggestion, Katie,
Speaker 1: how dare you know? I know? But it's like it's
Speaker 1: like once it's outside your body, once it's on that cupcake,
Speaker 1: you're like, I got a spit cupcake That's how I
Speaker 1: learned to not be a wolverine was by my gross spit, Cupcake. That, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's the thing you had outgrow. I spied myself with
Speaker 1: my own spittle. It's a lesson that you learn that
Speaker 1: you taught yourself that spite spit came back to bite
Speaker 1: in the butt. But those Yeah, so wolverines are the
Speaker 1: douchy fratbros of nature. They're a large, aggressive member of
Speaker 1: the weasel family. Actually, I did not know that. They're
Speaker 1: carnivores about the size of a medium dog, and they're
Speaker 1: on the top of their food chains, so they're not
Speaker 1: typically subject to predators and they're extremely aggressive and ferocious. Uh.
Speaker 1: Some of their other names are the skunk bear. Uh. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so they like to excrete musk. From here we go less,
Speaker 1: there's those anial glands. Again. Their scientific name is golo golo,
Speaker 1: which is glutton glutton and Latin gala. Yeah. That's cute. Yeah,
Speaker 1: like like they're like, no, this is so gluttonous. It's gluttonous. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's double gluttonous, double mint wolverine, double mint wolverine. Yeah, wolverine. Yea,
Speaker 1: in my mind, it's a fake animal, but it's no
Speaker 1: it's not. It's so it's not just a man with
Speaker 1: metal fingers metal sorry, between finger blades. It's an actual animal.
Speaker 1: It's an actual animal, not half man half wolf. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's in Romanian. Their name means gluttonous badger. So as
Speaker 1: I'm guessing they eat a lot. Yeah, so after they've
Speaker 1: eaten as much of a carcass as they can possibly
Speaker 1: gorge upon, they like to pee all over the remnants. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it's not actually urine, but like anal gland juices
Speaker 1: got a lot of it. Yeah, we got a lot
Speaker 1: of butt juices in the sth it's probably because of
Speaker 1: their diet. Yeah, it's it's a butt juice heavy episode.
Speaker 1: He can they eat it after they've juiced it or no?
Speaker 1: No one nobody can. It seems stupid and it's not.
Speaker 1: And like researchers where like are you marking your territory
Speaker 1: and no, no, it's independent of marking territory. It doesn't
Speaker 1: seem to have anything to do with being I just
Speaker 1: don't want anybody else this because like the wolverines really
Speaker 1: come back to pick over the leftovers, so it's full. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just to prevent their competition from eating it. Because
Speaker 1: these this like weird, but p will spoil the and
Speaker 1: they don't even really have competition, so it's just like,
Speaker 1: well they have they have like competition with other wolverines,
Speaker 1: with other wolverines and like other other predators that will
Speaker 1: be looking for the same prey animals. So even though
Speaker 1: they are they not hattened personally, they do have hatred
Speaker 1: in their hearts for other people, other animals. Sorry, they're
Speaker 1: not people. They're not they're not people, but they kind
Speaker 1: of act like some people, and you know, people like yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: At the school I went to, there was like the
Speaker 1: statue that everyone would, like tourists would always clamber around
Speaker 1: because it was like, oh, this school statue of this
Speaker 1: famous dude, and uh there's this tradition where you would
Speaker 1: pee on the statue. Um just just kind of like
Speaker 1: as a little a little screw you to all the
Speaker 1: innocent kids that were closing with the statue. Have you
Speaker 1: ever pete on that statue? I'm a good girl. Also,
Speaker 1: I feel like it'd be easier for a guy. It
Speaker 1: would be easier for a guy unless you it's a
Speaker 1: summer day and you've got a skirt one you get
Speaker 1: one of those piss funnels you know you could, you could, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know why you would. But the sheep, he's yeah,
Speaker 1: the sheep. Yeah. Where it's like it's one of those
Speaker 1: funnel plastic funnels that like they're like when you're going hiking,
Speaker 1: you know. But here's the thing. You know what I'm
Speaker 1: not going to carry around, you know, I think it's
Speaker 1: getting covered in peat and then carry it home. You
Speaker 1: know what else is just as easy finding a bush
Speaker 1: and squad Yeah yeah, I mean, like you work your
Speaker 1: core a little bit, but it's not that hard, no
Speaker 1: bonus points. You can grab onto a tree and just like,
Speaker 1: you know, secure yourself that. I would rather do that
Speaker 1: than like carry around a gross pisne. This is probably
Speaker 1: saying too much, but I genuinely like paying in the
Speaker 1: middle of nowhere. I think that's I don't think that's
Speaker 1: tim I think everyone should. In Iceland last year and
Speaker 1: there's just a lot of stretches with nothing but the
Speaker 1: most beautiful landscape and Iceland, I pete all over you.
Speaker 1: It was wonderful, you claimed Iceland. Now no one can
Speaker 1: go there. Well, it's yours, it's your continent. You all
Speaker 1: owe me something, right every time you visit. No one
Speaker 1: else can visit Iceland anymore. You've ruined it for everyone,
Speaker 1: or I've made it better. I don't know. I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: I guess that's maybe wolverines think they're like seasoning the food.
Speaker 1: Maybe like they're so arrogant that they're like this, they're
Speaker 1: gonna like some of my pe on this food. To
Speaker 1: be fair, I didn't pay on anything anone was about
Speaker 1: to eat. But right right, you know, I hear you. Well,
Speaker 1: if you peeed all over Iceland, though, isn't there food
Speaker 1: in Iceland? Yeah? I mean there is. I mean you're
Speaker 1: taking me very literally all over, I mean, yes, all
Speaker 1: over right, Like no, so I see it's more like
Speaker 1: geo cash in your It's like every two miles, right, Okay,
Speaker 1: that's a reasonable amount. I think of urine to deposit
Speaker 1: on ice too much. No, it's all right, that's how.
Speaker 1: That's totally healthy. And I mean, honestly, Iceland sounds like
Speaker 1: it's made mostly out of water. I can't gonna notice. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't notice the difference is probably anyway. I bet
Speaker 1: people have p before me people. Yeah, I mean, geologists
Speaker 1: may disagree with me, but I bet the world's like
Speaker 1: nine dinosaur p at this point. It's gotta be. I'll
Speaker 1: take you at that dinosaur p and poops. Yeah, gotta
Speaker 1: be gotta be. That's that is. I'm going to pin
Speaker 1: my brand on that statement. I die on that hill.
Speaker 1: Please don't die. So a human wolverine, unfortunately not. Hugh
Speaker 1: Jackman tried a similar tactic when he was romantically rejected
Speaker 1: by a woman. The worst fate that could befall any
Speaker 1: living creature, apparently, so a Minnesota man. This time, it's
Speaker 1: not Florida man. Okay, well that's something. Allegedly, he peed
Speaker 1: in the water bottle of his coworker after she had
Speaker 1: turned down his advances, and she said she only wanted
Speaker 1: to remain friends. How absolutely dare she? He may have
Speaker 1: peed in her water bottle up to fifteen times. That's absurd,
Speaker 1: That is ridiculous. Even wait, sold different days, Yeah, different days,
Speaker 1: or he didn't have very much pee and has a
Speaker 1: prostate problem, keep going back. Yeah, I don't know. I
Speaker 1: think it was different days. But also like either he
Speaker 1: had really good aim or like a really small around,
Speaker 1: like like how do you just consistently in a water bottle?
Speaker 1: You get your water bottle pet in fifteen times? And
Speaker 1: she did like he was caught because she was like
Speaker 1: this water tastes sort of like rejected man baby pea. Yeah,
Speaker 1: um like greg. So he was arrested and he denied
Speaker 1: doing it until the police were like, you know, we
Speaker 1: can test for DNA, and when you pee in a bottle,
Speaker 1: that's a lot of DNA. And then after that he
Speaker 1: was like, oh, yeah, maybe I did it once or
Speaker 1: twice or fifteen times. Wow wow. Yeah. I mean, there's
Speaker 1: a lot of ways to respond to being rejected. There's
Speaker 1: one good way, which is like, oh, I'm sorry to
Speaker 1: hear that, but I respect your opinion, right, Or there's
Speaker 1: this way. So we're going to take a quick break
Speaker 1: during which I am definitely not going to pee in
Speaker 1: someone's water bottle. What do you mean that's an oddly
Speaker 1: specific thing for me to say. Anyways, we'll be right back, Okay,
Speaker 1: art in my water, So onto our next sin sloth.
Speaker 1: I know you think our candidate here is well going
Speaker 1: to be the sloth, but honestly, I think they have
Speaker 1: an undeserved reputation. Part of the reason they remain motionless
Speaker 1: is their diet is made up of leaves that are
Speaker 1: extremely difficult to digest, so their metabolism is very slow.
Speaker 1: In fact, their metabolism is so slow they only poop
Speaker 1: once a week, which is a treacherous journey down to
Speaker 1: the bottom of the tree. If they were truly lazy,
Speaker 1: why wouldn't they just poop from up on their tree branch?
Speaker 1: University of Wisconsin ecologist Jonathan Paully says, it's like if
Speaker 1: you had to go run a five k on an
Speaker 1: interstate before you could go to the bathroom. Traveling down
Speaker 1: to the base of the tree to poop is a
Speaker 1: brave risk, But why do they do it? First, you
Speaker 1: need to know that sloths host a ton of little
Speaker 1: floora and fauna in their fur, algae and moths among them.
Speaker 1: These aren't just freeloaders. The green algae, especially, which provides
Speaker 1: extra nutrients to the sloth it's absorbed through the skin,
Speaker 1: and moths provide nutrition for the algae to grow, both
Speaker 1: in waste matter from the moths diet and the decaying
Speaker 1: of dead moths. The moths that hit your ride on
Speaker 1: the sloths also lay their eggs in sloth poop. The
Speaker 1: larva eats the poop, and when the slavs descend to
Speaker 1: make more poopoos, the newly hatched moth larva can hit
Speaker 1: your ride on the sloth, but uber back up the tree.
Speaker 1: So moths lay their eggs in sloth poopies. Sloths descend
Speaker 1: to the base of the tree to make more poopies.
Speaker 1: The sloth larva and the sloth poopoos crawl onto the sloth.
Speaker 1: Nutrients from the moths be the green algae growing on
Speaker 1: the fur of the sloth. The sloth absorbs the nutrients
Speaker 1: from the green algae. The healthy sloth lives to make
Speaker 1: more poopies, more moths, more algae, and that's the circle
Speaker 1: of life. But we're talking about sinners here, not beautiful coexistence.
Speaker 1: To do that, we're going to take a look at
Speaker 1: one of the most horrifying parasites in the natural world.
Speaker 1: So Katie, yes, time to imagine again. Here we go.
Speaker 1: Imagine that one of your body parts got taken over
Speaker 1: by a parasite. Okay, So, like I trying to think of,
Speaker 1: like what would be the worst body part because like
Speaker 1: if it was a hand, like in Doctor's Strange Love,
Speaker 1: like it would always be flopped around thing, I wouldn't
Speaker 1: love that it's very visible. But I do have another hand,
Speaker 1: that's true. So there's that you could like tie down
Speaker 1: that hand and then use your non parasite hands. I
Speaker 1: mean what yeah, yeah, but if you had both parasites
Speaker 1: in both hands, that'd be that'd be a problem because
Speaker 1: then it'll be like grabbing things and poking people. And
Speaker 1: so the parasite makes my hand do whatever it wants. Yeah,
Speaker 1: whatever the parasite wants. Um And like if it was
Speaker 1: your feet and your legs, that bad, real bad, becau
Speaker 1: isn't it like walk you over to do weird parasites?
Speaker 1: And if yeah, the parasites leading me off to do
Speaker 1: parasites stuff, I don't have anything to do with that.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's kind of like what nematodes do to crickets. So,
Speaker 1: like nematodes that infect crickets make them go crazy, and
Speaker 1: the crickets jump in pools the water, so the nematodes
Speaker 1: can go have gross sex in the water and make
Speaker 1: more nematodes. Wow, yeah, it's super nasty. So how do
Speaker 1: they do that? Though? They in fact the crickets and
Speaker 1: then they uh, it's like it messes with the cricket's brain.
Speaker 1: Sounds like some Hogwarts magic ship. But like if a
Speaker 1: parasite infected your eyes. That would suck because then it
Speaker 1: would just look at whatever could look at gross butts
Speaker 1: all day and you'd have no choice. So that's what Okay, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't want any of this. I don't know what
Speaker 1: would be the worst part, right, but I think for me,
Speaker 1: the grossest body part would be the tongue. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: now that you put that in my head. I mean
Speaker 1: I was going to some other places, but tongue is yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: because it's like so intimate. It's like in your mouth,
Speaker 1: in your well. I got bad news for fish. I know.
Speaker 1: I'm so glad I'm not a fish. So there's anice
Speaker 1: a pod called Simotha exigua, or what is more commonly
Speaker 1: known as the tongue eating mouse. It has a pretty
Speaker 1: self explanatory name. It's found in many parts of the ocean,
Speaker 1: even off the coast of California, and it likes to
Speaker 1: latch onto a fish's tongue and start systematically sucking the
Speaker 1: blood and using like these creepy little claws in front
Speaker 1: that just like scrapes tongue and then just scoops that
Speaker 1: blood right into the little paths mouth. Yeah, and sweet
Speaker 1: kill fish and eat fish is there a chance of
Speaker 1: that parasite getting into us. Well, it's not going to
Speaker 1: attack you because it's very specialized. Yeah, you're not a fish.
Speaker 1: It's very highly specialized. In fact, it only attacks certain
Speaker 1: species of fish. But like, yeah, fishermen have cotfish and
Speaker 1: they found the little house in the fish's mouth. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so the fish is atrophies due to blood loss because
Speaker 1: the the little tongue eating louse has been working away
Speaker 1: at it in the tongue minds. But it's not done
Speaker 1: with this poor fish. Now it attaches itself to the
Speaker 1: tongue stumps, muscles and becomes the fishes nude tongue. Oh no,
Speaker 1: it doesn't. It does. Indeed, it's the only known parasite
Speaker 1: to replace an entire body part. They've got small little
Speaker 1: body part, small little tongue. Yeah, I guess so. But
Speaker 1: like it's still very impressive. I'm not trying to belittle them.
Speaker 1: I mean it sounds a little bit like you are.
Speaker 1: I just was being realistic because I was pretty it
Speaker 1: was I was imagining my tongue and that's not realistic.
Speaker 1: That's not the right size. Some of these fish can be.
Speaker 1: You know, you hold in your hands, it could be
Speaker 1: like a little bit bigger, not a human size tongue.
Speaker 1: It's like a pinky finger. You think that maybe it
Speaker 1: becomes the tongue so it can steal food out of
Speaker 1: the fish's mouth, but no, actually it's eaten the fish's tongues.
Speaker 1: So the fish would normally just die because it's like,
Speaker 1: I don't have a target, I can't eat any more.
Speaker 1: I have a poor fish. But like, if the tongue
Speaker 1: eating louse wants to reproduce, it needs to keep that
Speaker 1: fish alive a little longer. So by becoming the tongue,
Speaker 1: it helps the fish continue to eat because it's going
Speaker 1: to use the fish as a motel six gross mating area.
Speaker 1: This is so evil, Yes, it's very evil. So male
Speaker 1: tongue eating louse will attach themselves to the gills of
Speaker 1: the fish, and when the female is mature, they'll swim
Speaker 1: up inside the fish and mate with her in the
Speaker 1: fish's mouth. You yeah, ill, yeah, they're all in on it.
Speaker 1: But it's just the men that do the scraping. No,
Speaker 1: it's just the females that do the scrape. Females attached
Speaker 1: to the tongue, they're the ones that that sacked the blood.
Speaker 1: Uh and she'll give birth to a brood of live
Speaker 1: male tongue eating louses and they'll swim off to and
Speaker 1: a new host. Uh. And then she abandons ship or
Speaker 1: fish and it's just left tongue less and to die
Speaker 1: after all this horrible sex has happened inside of its body.
Speaker 1: It's a real violation, and that's right of that fish's life,
Speaker 1: spite of its space. Yeah, but I bet you're wondering, like,
Speaker 1: how does this species continue if it only gives birth
Speaker 1: to males. Yes, I was thinking that it is a
Speaker 1: good question that I just said that you asked. So
Speaker 1: they're actually hermaphroditic, And so when males attached to the
Speaker 1: gills of a victim fish, if they sense that there's
Speaker 1: no female, they're one of them is going to become
Speaker 1: a female and swim up that fish and attach itself
Speaker 1: to the tongue so the beautiful cycle can begin a
Speaker 1: new that's wild. Yeah. See, I'm standing by my earlier
Speaker 1: thing about fearful of the stuff below the water. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I mean it's only going to happen if you're
Speaker 1: a fish, and actually just a specific kind of know
Speaker 1: what's happening. The ones that replace the whole tongue attacks.
Speaker 1: They're called rose snappers. They're off the coast of Mexico,
Speaker 1: and those are the only ones that replaced the whole tongue.
Speaker 1: But there are there are other like tongue eating louses. Yeah,
Speaker 1: some of them attack clownfish and yeah, they're they're all
Speaker 1: gross looking. Great, Yeah, good to know. Yeah, I'm afraid
Speaker 1: of getting a fish and finding that like in the
Speaker 1: in the fish like you've ordered fish to eat. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because I mean, I guess because I know about it,
Speaker 1: and knowledge is power. All at least know what it is.
Speaker 1: It's ignorance is bliss. But can you imagine not knowing
Speaker 1: and you're just this fish's tongue has eyes like you know,
Speaker 1: an alien? Like you ever eat a fish with the
Speaker 1: head and would you eat that? Okay, Katie, I mean
Speaker 1: if you can't look a dead fish in the eye
Speaker 1: and eat its cheekbone, muscles, then you know you're right.
Speaker 1: I'm never gonna eat a fish again. It's funny because
Speaker 1: she's a vegetarian. I do sometimes eat fish. You're a piscitarian.
Speaker 1: I've recently tried it. Then it's hard for me. I
Speaker 1: still think about and about the grossness of the meat.
Speaker 1: I understand that. I actually have a couple of my
Speaker 1: friends for vegetarians. It's the same thing where it's like
Speaker 1: they would be okay with maybe eating some meat sometimes,
Speaker 1: but they can't actually deal with the texture of it well.
Speaker 1: And I understand that because I can't deal with shrimp
Speaker 1: texture really well because like to me, it tastes like
Speaker 1: a mean, gross marine bug, and I am, well, that's
Speaker 1: what it is. Yeah. And actually, so like these these
Speaker 1: tongue eating louses, they're they're isopods, and that's related to
Speaker 1: um pillbugs, you know, or I don't know, really pulling.
Speaker 1: Some people call them um I call them both. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: those little ones like you poke them and they roll
Speaker 1: up in a ball. It's pretty cute. They're like little
Speaker 1: insect head. So that's what these parasites look like. Similar
Speaker 1: but a lot grosser. There. Youre white, they're bigger, but
Speaker 1: they roll up like that. They have that they don't
Speaker 1: roll up, but they do have that sort of like bendy.
Speaker 1: I can picture them being tongue yeah, yeah, yeah, you
Speaker 1: can yuck. Yuck. Thank you. Try not to imagine that
Speaker 1: you're not going to be able to do it. I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: it's okay, I need an excuse to not eat fish.
Speaker 1: Is sloth truly a deadly sin? In humans? Well, there
Speaker 1: was such a thing as a sleeping sickness, not the
Speaker 1: kind transmitted by the seats fly, but something that is
Speaker 1: neurological and a medical puzzle. In the early nine hundreds,
Speaker 1: a disease known as encephalitis lethargica affected millions around the world,
Speaker 1: many of whom died as a result, and sephalitis means
Speaker 1: inflammation of the brain, and lethargica describes the main symptom
Speaker 1: of the disease, stream lethargy. Oliver Sacks described the disease hauntingly, quote,
Speaker 1: they would be conscious and aware, yet not fully awake.
Speaker 1: They would sit motionless and speechless all day in their chair,
Speaker 1: totally lacking energy, impetus, initiative mode of appetite, effect, or desire.
Speaker 1: They registered what went on around them without active attention
Speaker 1: and with profound indifference. They neither conveyed nor felt the
Speaker 1: feeling of life. They were as insubstantial as ghosts and
Speaker 1: as passive as zombies. According to the National Institute of Health,
Speaker 1: symptoms of the disease included high fever, headache, double vision,
Speaker 1: delayed physical and mental response, lethargy, abnormal eye movements, upper
Speaker 1: body weakness, muscular pains, tremors, neck rigidity, psychosis, and coma.
Speaker 1: You'll notice I'm using the past tense, so I'm sure
Speaker 1: you're hoping we cured the disease. Well, not exactly. The
Speaker 1: epidemic ended and has not recurred, but not because it
Speaker 1: was cured. In fact, we don't know the cause, why
Speaker 1: the epidemic ended, and what the hell is going on
Speaker 1: or if it will happen again. There have been isolated
Speaker 1: cases since the epidemics, so the disease is not gone
Speaker 1: from the face of the earth. The most we know
Speaker 1: about it is from pathological studies of these rare cases
Speaker 1: that show inflammation of the midbrain and basil ganglia. Otherwise,
Speaker 1: it's still mostly a mystery that have left researchers and
Speaker 1: doctors scratching there, hopefully not inflamed heads. I know what
Speaker 1: you're thinking, Katie. You can't count for ship. Those were
Speaker 1: only three deadly sins, how dare you? Well, don't you worry.
Speaker 1: We'll be back with more deadly sins when we return
Speaker 1: with season two of Creature Feature Hi. I got you
Speaker 1: with the cliffhanger you'll just have to wait and anticipation
Speaker 1: to find out what the other deadly sins are. Wait no,
Speaker 1: don't google them spoilers anyways, that's right. This is the
Speaker 1: final episode of season one, but don't worry. We'll be
Speaker 1: back really soon with season two. Just to give you
Speaker 1: a little sneak peek, one of the Sinners will discuss
Speaker 1: our birds who cheat on their partners in a way
Speaker 1: that is arrested. Development levels are messed up, and it's
Speaker 1: such a scientific enigma that researcher have said, quote it's
Speaker 1: a little bit of a black box what's actually happening
Speaker 1: inside the female unfortunately, So join us soon for season
Speaker 1: two of Creature Feature. So, Katie, thank you so much
Speaker 1: for joining me. Thanks for having me. So you got
Speaker 1: anything to plug? Uh? Yeah, I mean you can check
Speaker 1: me out on Even More News, my podcast that I
Speaker 1: co host with Cody Johnston who's been on the show before. Um,
Speaker 1: and check out our YouTube show Some More News. I'm
Speaker 1: on the Twitter, you know, find me there. That's probably
Speaker 1: it's really all I have to plug. Yeah, Katie Stole
Speaker 1: is the name Katie, That's right. Don't you dare say Katie?
Speaker 1: I e because because the whole name, but it's a
Speaker 1: different name. Yeah, it's that's gonna be me. Did you
Speaker 1: ever think that you had a unique name? Probably when
Speaker 1: I was a baby, and then after that it's like
Speaker 1: downhill from there. Up until high school, I hadn't met
Speaker 1: another Katie really, and now school can hit. I knew
Speaker 1: another Katie in high school and she'd punched me in
Speaker 1: the stomach. Well, you should test on on I know
Speaker 1: at least he should, so join us soon for a
Speaker 1: season two. You can follow us on Twitter at Creature
Speaker 1: Feet Pod. It's fat as in a great feat, not
Speaker 1: beat as in stinky feet. You can follow us on
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Speaker 1: dot com. And you can find me on Twitter at
Speaker 1: Katie Golden. And also I would highly recommend you follow
Speaker 1: at pro bird Rites, which you know is totally me
Speaker 1: pretending to be a bird and not a bird pretending
Speaker 1: to be a human. Also, I'd like to thank the
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