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Speaker 1: So Real Housewives Legacy that was supposed to be a

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Speaker 1: New York cast with you know, Alma Mater graduates of

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Speaker 1: the Real Housewives of New York And it was announced

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Speaker 1: on the same day that they announced a new cast,

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Speaker 1: and I said that it was a weird announcement, which

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Speaker 1: then Andy asked me about, and then I doubled down

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Speaker 1: on watching Raven's Lives, saying it was a weird announcement.

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Speaker 1: It just sounded weird. It was like, oh, hey, we're

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Speaker 1: gonna do a brand new, fresh, refresher of Housewives. So

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Speaker 1: it just felt like I'm the same day to announce

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Speaker 1: the same thing. And even though each concept seems good,

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Speaker 1: if I have to be honest, I would say that

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Speaker 1: the Legacy sounds even better than a new show. I

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Speaker 1: just feel like it's hard to make this thing new again.

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Speaker 1: Although I recently watched Salt Lake City for the first

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Speaker 1: time in my life and that was definitely entertaining. I

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Speaker 1: understand why that is on television. Okay, so, but the

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Speaker 1: reason for and not alleged the fact, because I know

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Speaker 1: the reason for the Housewives Legacy show not happening is

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Speaker 1: because Jill Zarin was frustrated that she wasn't going to

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Speaker 1: get paid as the rest of the other women. She

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Speaker 1: was there in the beginning, and they've been on for years,

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Speaker 1: and I don't you know, I guess it is arbitrary.

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Speaker 1: Like I left. I was on for three years, then

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Speaker 1: and I came back to a lot of money. And

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Speaker 1: then that kind of set my precedent personally. And what

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Speaker 1: happens is people who started everyone started out the first

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Speaker 1: season as favored nations, which means everybody gets paid the same,

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Speaker 1: and then you're welcome. I negotiated for Jill and I

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Speaker 1: on and I know people say, oh, she says everything's

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Speaker 1: about her. It happened. It's a fact. I negotiated for Jill,

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Speaker 1: and I was in her closet in the Hampton's on

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Speaker 1: And then everybody's sort of money divided. And then there

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Speaker 1: were always these situations where Ramona and Sonia and Luanne

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Speaker 1: have to get paid the same, and none of us

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Speaker 1: are budging, and it's a good strategy because that's what

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Speaker 1: Friends did. The cast stuck together and they wanted to

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Speaker 1: get paid favored nations. I think it was a million

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Speaker 1: an episode at the time, and they got it because

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Speaker 1: if they're all gonna walk, you know. But so that

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Speaker 1: was great and that was fair. The only problem was

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Speaker 1: Bravo wouldn't go for it and started filming and really

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Speaker 1: will take this to the day of to after filming,

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Speaker 1: and back then Bravo would film without a contract. Now

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Speaker 1: they really won't film without a contract unless they really

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Speaker 1: really trust someone like let's pretend like a Kyle or

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Speaker 1: someone who's definitely going to come back. But Bravo won't

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Speaker 1: film without a contract because I was filming without a

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Speaker 1: contract my first season and I separately was talking to

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Speaker 1: other people at Bravo about another possible show. And when

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Speaker 1: those people connect the dots, they were like, wait a minute,

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Speaker 1: we have Bethany over here shooting this show. How is

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Speaker 1: are not as they're not lax at all anymore about

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Speaker 1: contracts signed except for in rare cases. So what would

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Speaker 1: happen is the show would start the date June ninety

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Speaker 1: nine would come, and then the girls would get nervous

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Speaker 1: because Bravo started filming with other people who were wilming,

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Speaker 1: the tree of that trio that decided to negotiate together

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Speaker 1: the other two were weaker, and you know, and then

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Speaker 1: the other problem is from a business perspective, the women

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Speaker 1: when Bravos like, five, we're filming and we're going without you,

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Speaker 1: then and Luanne, I specifically remember a season where Luanne

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Speaker 1: She's probably coming back the next season, like I want

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Speaker 1: this because I deserve it because of what happened, And

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Speaker 1: times that I would just sit and say, hold, I'm

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Speaker 1: And there are times when I have all the leverage

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Speaker 1: And it's usually been that, you know, like I'm willing

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Speaker 1: can't say you're gonna walk unless you're really really willing

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Speaker 1: they've been negotiating and Jill's erin feels that she should

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Speaker 1: Jill is an iconic housewife and she was there in

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Speaker 1: Jill was there in the beginning, and she felt that

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Speaker 1: et cetera, which I do understand some of the people.

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Speaker 1: Jorinda was let go, Ramona was let go, Jill was

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Speaker 1: let go, so I guess they all were like Tinsley was,

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Speaker 1: you know. So the question is should Jill have got

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Speaker 1: should they all get paid the same, or should Jill

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Speaker 1: And that also seems like they could get that back together.

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Speaker 1: Because if Jill feels like it's it's it's no show.

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Speaker 1: If she doesn't take what she left at, I don't

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Speaker 1: overplayed her hand. And the thing about Bravo is they

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Speaker 1: But then he still invites her back on the show

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Speaker 1: and in the Bravo clubhouse. So I propose this will

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Speaker 1: solve the financial problems. I have a proposition for Bravo

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Speaker 1: to solve the financial challenges of the Housewives legacy. And

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Speaker 1: my proposal is real Housewives of New York Legacy blonds

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Speaker 1: have more fun. Now. My pitch to Bravo is, you

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Speaker 1: had a problem with Jill wanting more money, and it

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Speaker 1: it in a way that will be economical for you, Bravo,

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Speaker 1: because I know Bravo paying Luan's raid and Sonya's raid

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Speaker 1: over a decade through that system is going to be high.

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Speaker 1: So I've chosen blonde housewives that I think will be

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Speaker 1: affordable and make for an entertaining cast. So Bravo gets

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Speaker 1: to not spend too much money. These women get back

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Speaker 1: In my opinion, here's my pitch for Real Housewives legacy

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Speaker 1: affordable cast blonds have more fun. Addition, okay, Drenda, Drenda's entertaining.

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Speaker 1: She was a good housewive. She can be unfiltered and unedited.

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Speaker 1: She will say something or make a mistake. She is,

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Speaker 1: like I said, entertaining. She has a good entertaining house.

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Speaker 1: And she was let go slash paused and will want

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Speaker 1: So Drinda's the first one. These are like iconic legacy.

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Speaker 1: Ramona's number two. Ramona got schooled. She was, you know,

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Speaker 1: pushed it. Ramona aged like rotten milk on the Housewives.

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Speaker 1: But there are women who have her views. And I

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Speaker 1: don't know if Bravo's supposed to sanitize every person to

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Speaker 1: go with being politically correct, because they're supposed to reflect

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Speaker 1: They've put back on worse people than Ramona. So Ramona's

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Speaker 1: get her at a reduced rate. So Duranda and Ramona

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Speaker 1: they'll still do it. You gotta push, but they'll do it.

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Speaker 1: Sonja also is humble and wants and needs the gig.

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Speaker 1: likes the action, she likes the relevance, and she too

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Speaker 1: would definitely agree to the same rate as Drinda and

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Speaker 1: Ramona if it was decent and not insulting. Maybe the

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Speaker 1: it's somewhere where like Drinda left or lower than right.

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Speaker 1: We're Duranda left. But something about that makes me think

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Speaker 1: Sonia will come back because those two are in. She'll

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Speaker 1: the platform, plus the entertainment, plus the relevance plus the

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Speaker 1: purpose gets me a certain age, and you know we

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Speaker 1: lack purpose. We want purpose. So that's my pitch, met Sonja.

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Speaker 1: The next fun blonde is Tinsley. She wasn't at a

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Speaker 1: very high rate when she left, and it's nice income,

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Speaker 1: it's nice relevance, it's a nice little jolt. She's sweet,

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Speaker 1: she's fun, she likes to wear her fun clothes. She's

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Speaker 1: a good balance for the rest of these women in

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Speaker 1: She gets like dog deals and good posts and so

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Speaker 1: this is probably good for that. And she likes to

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Speaker 1: do a light hustle, so I think she would be

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Speaker 1: ready to come back. And then Alex McCord another good balancer,

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Speaker 1: Sage Words of Wisdom has been gone a long time,

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Speaker 1: left at not a very high rate. Was also Lecca.

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Speaker 1: Everybody here was let go, So you're going to get

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Speaker 1: them at a decent rate. They're all blonde, they're all fun,

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Speaker 1: and they're all good housewives. That's my pitch. Real Housewives

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Speaker 1: Legacy in New York edition that will also be affordable

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Speaker 1: and entertaining for Bravo to be able to make this happen.

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Speaker 1: What do you think