WEBVTT - Alien: Earth episode 4 0:00:00.240 --> 0:00:06.080 Warning. Today's episode contains spoilers for Alien Earths Episode four, 0:00:08.440 --> 0:00:28.000 Free the Aliens. Hello, it was Jason Concepcion and I'm 0:00:28.120 --> 0:00:30.200 Rosy night and welcome back to x Ray Vision of 0:00:30.200 --> 0:00:32.040 the podcast. We we dive deep at your favorite shows, movies, 0:00:32.080 --> 0:00:34.720 comics of pop culture, coming to you from iHeart. We'll 0:00:34.760 --> 0:00:38.000 breathe three episodes a week, plus news on Saturdays. 0:00:38.720 --> 0:00:43.640 In today's episode, we are exploring Aliens Haunting. Fourth episode, 0:00:43.720 --> 0:00:47.400 Haunting Haunting. It's going to make you ask some questions. 0:00:47.440 --> 0:00:49.400 You've got to be asking a lot of questions about 0:00:49.400 --> 0:00:54.080 the ethics of this technology on many different levels. So 0:00:54.600 --> 0:00:57.160 let's dive in a lot to talk about this time around. 0:00:58.120 --> 0:01:04.920 Okay, Alien Earth Episode four Observation. Wendy is waking up 0:01:05.080 --> 0:01:09.920 after collapsing at the end of episode three. Dame and 0:01:10.959 --> 0:01:14.600 Kersh are discussing her, but she can't hear them. They've 0:01:14.600 --> 0:01:17.280 turned off her hearing, so she's not affected by whatever. 0:01:17.680 --> 0:01:24.240 In immediately horrific situation. Yes, I kind of makes you 0:01:24.319 --> 0:01:26.520 realize what they can do to you if you're in 0:01:26.640 --> 0:01:27.600 one of these bodies. 0:01:28.360 --> 0:01:34.880 So Kersh has figured out basically that Wendy is hearing 0:01:35.840 --> 0:01:40.360 signals emitted by the xenomorphs she can hear, basically, she 0:01:40.400 --> 0:01:43.679 can hear them, and he tells this to boy Genius 0:01:43.680 --> 0:01:45.360 as boy Genius comes in the lab, but Boy Genius 0:01:45.400 --> 0:01:48.360 is like, yeah, I figured that out already, kersh the 0:01:48.400 --> 0:01:54.080 fuck of course, cursh jesus, I'm a boy genius. Get name, buddy, 0:01:55.200 --> 0:02:01.440 uh And he's like, speaking of stuff and expectations, why 0:02:01.440 --> 0:02:03.880 aren't you in the lab doing the job that I 0:02:04.000 --> 0:02:06.920 fucking assigned to you? Now get out of here, And 0:02:06.920 --> 0:02:09.639 then he rips on Dame saying, like, stop treating her 0:02:09.680 --> 0:02:15.120 like a baby. She's a billion dollar synthetic prototype. And 0:02:15.480 --> 0:02:19.480 everybody leaves until it's only Arthur, who who we found 0:02:19.520 --> 0:02:22.960 out of this episode is Dame's husband. Shocker, did not 0:02:23.120 --> 0:02:25.520 see that, did not see any chemistry between these two, 0:02:25.840 --> 0:02:29.960 until it's only Arthur, Curly and boy Genius. Then Joe 0:02:30.000 --> 0:02:34.680 comes in yep, and they you know, he's very obviously 0:02:34.680 --> 0:02:36.680 worried about Wendy, and they're like, well, she can't hear 0:02:36.720 --> 0:02:40.799 you right now, we turned off her hearing. And by 0:02:40.840 --> 0:02:44.320 the way, i'm your boss, why are you acting like 0:02:44.360 --> 0:02:46.480 you shouldn't be respecting me? And you're like worried about 0:02:46.480 --> 0:02:49.960 your sister? And you're not showing me the proper me boy, genius, 0:02:50.520 --> 0:02:53.680 your employer, your proper deference. 0:02:55.280 --> 0:02:56.920 I'm like Joe, I don't know if he's seen like 0:02:56.960 --> 0:02:59.400 a human boss for a long time. Bro, his boss 0:02:59.440 --> 0:03:03.400 is little just y faceless robots, so he might not care. 0:03:03.560 --> 0:03:07.400 And like, as if to underline the point, is like, 0:03:07.520 --> 0:03:09.760 by the way, how's the new lung I made you? 0:03:10.680 --> 0:03:14.520 How's that breathing? How's that thing taste? Your other lung? 0:03:14.560 --> 0:03:16.720 Your old lung? You're never gonna guess where it is. 0:03:16.720 --> 0:03:19.040 It's in a vat right now, being used to as 0:03:19.080 --> 0:03:22.239 a nest for a baby chest burster. And Joe realizes 0:03:22.320 --> 0:03:24.600 now that the alien specimens are in the building and 0:03:24.639 --> 0:03:28.200 he thinks this is crazy, as we all do. Arthur 0:03:28.280 --> 0:03:32.040 and the crew slowly like bring up Wendy's hearing and 0:03:32.200 --> 0:03:36.000 Joe tells her about oh, I underwent surgery, but he 0:03:36.000 --> 0:03:38.400 doesn't really go into the new lung and all that stuff. 0:03:38.600 --> 0:03:42.400 He very he downplays it severely, and he asks Wendy, like, 0:03:42.440 --> 0:03:46.800 what happened. She says that after the fight with the 0:03:46.840 --> 0:03:49.200 alien and she was brought back kind of like in 0:03:49.240 --> 0:03:53.080 a state of suspension, some sort of like robot coma. 0:03:53.160 --> 0:03:55.400 She's brought back to Research Island, but then she woke 0:03:55.480 --> 0:03:58.400 up and heard the call of the aliens. She went 0:03:58.480 --> 0:04:00.240 down to where she was hearing it and was lab 0:04:00.280 --> 0:04:05.280 workers was experimenting on the aliens. And she then refers 0:04:05.280 --> 0:04:09.000 to the chest Burster as the baby and says the baby. 0:04:08.720 --> 0:04:11.280 Was screaming the baby. 0:04:11.480 --> 0:04:15.160 So listen. One thing I love about this episode is 0:04:15.200 --> 0:04:20.000 the way it made empathized with these terrible, horrific creatures. 0:04:20.680 --> 0:04:25.240 Absolutely insane twist I did not see coming this episode, 0:04:25.360 --> 0:04:27.560 but it actually makes so much sense because when we 0:04:27.640 --> 0:04:32.440 actually look back at how whailing Utani, from what we've seen, 0:04:32.480 --> 0:04:35.840 have used the creatures and have constantly been hunting them down, 0:04:35.880 --> 0:04:39.520 and then someone like Michael kind of tried to create 0:04:39.600 --> 0:04:43.000 a different version of them to you know, terror, kind 0:04:43.080 --> 0:04:46.520 of terror formed the earth that he would take them 0:04:46.560 --> 0:04:49.840 to like it. They have been being exploited throughout by 0:04:49.880 --> 0:04:52.200 whaling Utani, which is just a crazy thing to say 0:04:52.240 --> 0:04:54.080 because they're also monsters. 0:04:55.000 --> 0:05:00.080 Void Genius is like so so happy. He is like 0:05:01.000 --> 0:05:07.120 absolutely rock hard at this new discovery that his billion 0:05:07.160 --> 0:05:11.880 dollar prototype is talking air quotes, talking to aliens, or 0:05:11.880 --> 0:05:15.760 at least hearing an alien talk to it, and yeah, sure, 0:05:15.800 --> 0:05:19.160 it causes her extreme pain and distress and locks up 0:05:19.160 --> 0:05:19.760 her body. 0:05:20.360 --> 0:05:25.520 Who fucking care to think of the diet foddy, isn't it? 0:05:25.520 --> 0:05:27.520 It's a fa and Joe. So, Joe and Arthur are 0:05:27.560 --> 0:05:30.120 like when she's like, oh, it caused me pain, They're like, yeah, yeah, 0:05:30.160 --> 0:05:32.240 we'll stop that happening. And He's like, what stop it? 0:05:32.279 --> 0:05:32.839 Are you kidding? 0:05:32.880 --> 0:05:33.040 Why? 0:05:33.080 --> 0:05:37.400 Why would we stop it? Yea, her whole body belongs 0:05:37.440 --> 0:05:41.280 to Prodigy, Like what are you talking about? Wendy settles it. 0:05:41.360 --> 0:05:43.440 Wendy's like, wait a second, I want to I want 0:05:43.480 --> 0:05:45.400 to continue to hear them, like I want to know 0:05:46.279 --> 0:05:49.080 why they're speaking to me, Like what do they want 0:05:49.080 --> 0:05:52.120 to say? And so they test her hearing and when 0:05:52.120 --> 0:05:54.440 you find out that the alien signal is spread out 0:05:54.600 --> 0:05:57.200 across like multiple frequencies all the way up to like 0:05:57.279 --> 0:06:01.280 the highest ranges of Wendy's k ability, way way beyond 0:06:01.320 --> 0:06:05.440 human hearing, like and and even I can't hear it 0:06:05.680 --> 0:06:10.839 like other synthetics apparently can't hear it. Yeah, which raises 0:06:10.960 --> 0:06:14.599 this question of did the aliens figure out a way 0:06:14.960 --> 0:06:22.760 to tailor the frequency and the signal and aiming at Wendy? 0:06:23.760 --> 0:06:27.159 Huh? Okay, I like that. I like that read a lot. 0:06:27.480 --> 0:06:33.360 Let me. There was a really great discord theory about 0:06:33.400 --> 0:06:37.640 this that was kind of blowing my mind. So it 0:06:37.720 --> 0:06:42.840 was Josmick One who said, maybe if boy Cavalier worked 0:06:42.960 --> 0:06:46.960 for whalen Utani when he was on his meteoric rise 0:06:47.000 --> 0:06:52.400 to the top, perhaps he could you know, have gotten 0:06:52.960 --> 0:06:54.680 like he has some of the goo, you know, and 0:06:54.720 --> 0:06:58.040 if he touches the goo that we've seen, the black 0:06:58.120 --> 0:07:01.400 goo that you kind of get from alien promethe, maybe 0:07:01.520 --> 0:07:05.640 that was used in creating this version of the hybrid, 0:07:05.800 --> 0:07:09.680 and that might be why they can hear Is there 0:07:09.720 --> 0:07:13.440 some kind of alien wailan U Tanny connection here, because 0:07:13.440 --> 0:07:16.520 it does seem weird the eight that Wendy can hear 0:07:16.560 --> 0:07:18.840 it and nobody else can, even the other hybrids. 0:07:18.920 --> 0:07:20.800 I guess we would need to know if there's because 0:07:20.800 --> 0:07:24.040 it seems to me, like Wendy is, there's no organic 0:07:24.120 --> 0:07:26.520 material in in Wendy like. 0:07:27.240 --> 0:07:30.160 I don't not. From what we know so far, these 0:07:30.200 --> 0:07:32.640 are alleged completely synthetialies. 0:07:33.320 --> 0:07:37.000 Boy Genius asked Wendy to can you just like whistle 0:07:37.040 --> 0:07:39.520 the sound like but obviously in a register we can 0:07:39.560 --> 0:07:43.440 all hear it? She does it, Curly's jealousy is ignited 0:07:43.640 --> 0:07:47.040 fanned by Boy Genius is like, aha, can you do that? 0:07:48.040 --> 0:07:52.400 I wish as something such. I absolutely love pitting the kids, 0:07:52.520 --> 0:07:54.080 like obviously it's terrible, but like. 0:07:54.200 --> 0:07:57.240 Me too, and I also feel like I feel no, 0:07:57.400 --> 0:08:00.280 it's it's great to watch. And I also hope that 0:08:01.280 --> 0:08:04.600 Kylie will become part of Boy Genius's downfall. That was 0:08:04.600 --> 0:08:09.160 like my biggest wish because he sucks. He's so so 0:08:09.240 --> 0:08:11.880 good at sucking this actorate act that he's doing. 0:08:12.080 --> 0:08:17.240 So yeah, this is Boy Genius's boy Cavaliers like villain 0:08:17.400 --> 0:08:19.640 toured to force, Like this is some of the best. 0:08:20.240 --> 0:08:22.520 I haven't felt this way about a villain in a 0:08:22.560 --> 0:08:25.400 little bit like this was a he's a great villain. 0:08:25.640 --> 0:08:29.080 I know it does. It was it was hinting at 0:08:29.160 --> 0:08:30.120 Jeoffrey level. 0:08:30.360 --> 0:08:31.000 It's there. 0:08:31.960 --> 0:08:34.760 I was like, it's not that yet, but it's if 0:08:34.760 --> 0:08:37.440 you had the seasons, if we get more than I 0:08:37.480 --> 0:08:40.240 feel like it could build up. He really he's a 0:08:40.360 --> 0:08:41.160 he's a bad guy. 0:08:42.480 --> 0:08:45.800 A bigger, much bigger fan of the xenomorph than than boys, 0:08:46.080 --> 0:08:49.880 which is, you know, thematically very alien. Okay, so you 0:08:49.880 --> 0:08:52.600 know A Joe is like, hey, can we give Wendy 0:08:52.640 --> 0:08:54.920 a break. She's very tired. He's like, she doesn't get tired, 0:08:54.960 --> 0:08:59.040 she's android, but like, but then he eventually agrees, Okay, 0:08:59.120 --> 0:09:01.400 let's give her a break. But you can tell like, 0:09:01.520 --> 0:09:06.240 He's like, let me, let me put a pin in 0:09:06.280 --> 0:09:11.320 that little conversation between me and Joe, who I don't like. 0:09:11.440 --> 0:09:15.480 Boy Genius then asks Lobot for his opinion about what's 0:09:15.520 --> 0:09:19.880 going on. Lobot is like, well, we must ask why 0:09:19.920 --> 0:09:22.120 the hostile aliens are trying to speak to Wendy. Yes, 0:09:22.200 --> 0:09:24.800 of course, Wow, Lobot, is that why they pay you 0:09:24.840 --> 0:09:30.840 the big bucks? What incredible? And then Boy Genius tells Lobot, Lobot, 0:09:30.880 --> 0:09:36.000 go tell Joe to remember who signs his fucking paycheck, okay, 0:09:36.440 --> 0:09:38.720 and who owns the peace on his partent, I. 0:09:38.720 --> 0:09:41.560 Don't know if Joe's can't pay that much pay I think. 0:09:43.520 --> 0:09:45.600 I don't know if he's gonna give up Mossy for that. 0:09:45.840 --> 0:09:47.720 Let's take a quick break to pay our bills and 0:09:47.760 --> 0:10:06.079 we'll be right back. And we're at Wendy shows Joe 0:10:06.160 --> 0:10:08.360 around her room and they're catching up a little bit. 0:10:08.480 --> 0:10:12.520 Wendy wants then wants to know, Hey, Joe, are you 0:10:12.600 --> 0:10:15.120 mad at me for, you know, for wanting to hear 0:10:15.160 --> 0:10:18.319 the aliens and for you being tricked into thinking I 0:10:18.480 --> 0:10:21.000 was dead? And He's like, no, I'm not mad at you. 0:10:21.080 --> 0:10:24.040 I'm mad at all the people that lied to me. 0:10:24.080 --> 0:10:26.040 I'm mad at Prodigy for lying to me. I'm mad 0:10:26.080 --> 0:10:29.240 at Prodigy for not I'm mad at the fact that 0:10:29.400 --> 0:10:31.480 they made it so hard for me to see you 0:10:31.559 --> 0:10:35.880 and Dad when you were in the hospital. And Wendy 0:10:35.920 --> 0:10:39.360 really can't seem to get her head around that Joe 0:10:39.480 --> 0:10:42.760 wasn't able to come see her, but there was apparently 0:10:42.800 --> 0:10:47.680 a war on which was the first we've heard of this. Yeah, interesting, 0:10:47.800 --> 0:10:52.120 and he's among other issues. It just made it difficult. 0:10:52.200 --> 0:10:52.400 You know. 0:10:53.760 --> 0:10:56.880 I really like that Wendy is stressed out about this 0:10:56.960 --> 0:11:01.680 because like in her mind, she wanted to get to Joe, 0:11:01.760 --> 0:11:04.280 so she just got to him, you know, like with 0:11:04.480 --> 0:11:07.840 us kind of and that understand like as a child, 0:11:08.160 --> 0:11:13.760 she doesn't really understand like how he couldn't kersh uh. 0:11:13.960 --> 0:11:17.240 Watches the tapes of Morrow. It's just getting more information 0:11:17.360 --> 0:11:23.000 on the former security chief of the Magineo. Meanwhile, boy 0:11:23.040 --> 0:11:26.920 Genius and we have to talk about this. Boy Genius 0:11:27.000 --> 0:11:29.640 is reading Peter Pan on his podcast. Does he have 0:11:29.679 --> 0:11:32.720 a podcast? He's sitting in front of a mic, a 0:11:32.800 --> 0:11:36.280 nice mic, apparently a. 0:11:36.360 --> 0:11:42.000 Pod a podcast, And also like why this one read 0:11:42.040 --> 0:11:43.040 another book? My guy? 0:11:43.600 --> 0:11:45.000 Well, you know what it was. I put this in 0:11:45.040 --> 0:11:48.360 the group chat, but it is this is the episode 0:11:48.400 --> 0:11:54.760 where I realized, Oh, what they're doing is Peter Thiel's 0:11:56.240 --> 0:11:59.559 like obsession with Lord of the Rings and naming all 0:11:59.640 --> 0:12:03.080 his differ free companies Palenteer a little bit uh, and 0:12:03.120 --> 0:12:05.719 I forget what the other ones. It's like Pialenteer is 0:12:05.800 --> 0:12:11.160 the currently most currently most well known one, but like 0:12:11.440 --> 0:12:14.800 I think it's oh yeah, also Anderil and Mythrill. And 0:12:14.880 --> 0:12:18.080 it's like, I think this is clearly that this is 0:12:18.280 --> 0:12:22.719 like a version of oh, this very powerful man has 0:12:22.760 --> 0:12:26.800 taken the exact wrong message from this very. 0:12:26.600 --> 0:12:29.760 Popular fac series exactly. 0:12:31.360 --> 0:12:34.200 I would just love to know more about Boy Genius podcast. 0:12:34.720 --> 0:12:35.520 Very funny to me. 0:12:37.120 --> 0:12:40.360 Are they going to release an episode as a special edition? 0:12:40.480 --> 0:12:42.480 I would I want to know camera. 0:12:43.160 --> 0:12:45.200 I want to like when it goes to the two shot, 0:12:45.320 --> 0:12:47.800 I want you to see like Lobot sitting in the 0:12:47.880 --> 0:12:51.880 other chair with a with his with his like baseball 0:12:51.960 --> 0:13:01.080 cap on like backwards, very basic questions of like boy genius. Okay, 0:13:01.120 --> 0:13:04.200 So boy Genus is doing his pod which again we 0:13:04.320 --> 0:13:08.880 can't talk we can't talk enough about. Slightly is out 0:13:08.960 --> 0:13:11.880 in the jungle with Moro talking in his head, and 0:13:12.040 --> 0:13:15.640 Morow is basically like, here, okay, listen, you need to 0:13:15.679 --> 0:13:17.520 go grab an alien egg and bring it to me. 0:13:18.080 --> 0:13:21.760 Go get it. It's not stealing if you're worried about that, 0:13:21.960 --> 0:13:26.640 because it is itself is stolen from me. I am 0:13:26.640 --> 0:13:32.320 the rightful owner. You will only be returning stolen property 0:13:32.360 --> 0:13:35.079 to its rightful owner, their owner. Therefore, this is the 0:13:35.160 --> 0:13:39.120 right thing to do. And then to build this as 0:13:39.160 --> 0:13:43.400 the grooming continues to build this relationship on a stronger foundation, 0:13:43.880 --> 0:13:47.280 Marrow tells Slightly his real name, Kume Moro, and then 0:13:47.360 --> 0:13:49.839 asks him his name, and his name is Rush and 0:13:49.920 --> 0:13:56.000 he's from India. A Rush finds Kersh in his room 0:13:56.720 --> 0:14:00.800 in a Rusha's room. Kersh is looking at this the 0:14:00.880 --> 0:14:03.280 you know, the see no evil, hear, no evil speak, 0:14:03.320 --> 0:14:06.440 no evil monkeys carved. He's like a carving of that 0:14:06.520 --> 0:14:07.800 on his wall, and he's like, do you know what 0:14:07.840 --> 0:14:13.160 this means? And they discuss the historical and ethical questions 0:14:13.200 --> 0:14:18.840 at the heart of this saying, and basically what Kirsch 0:14:18.920 --> 0:14:21.680 wants to know is, would slightly, Let's say I'm going 0:14:21.760 --> 0:14:25.000 to do something bad. He says so slightly, I'm about 0:14:25.040 --> 0:14:28.960 to do something that's going to hurt somebody, would you 0:14:29.080 --> 0:14:34.200 stop me? And Tomorrow meanwhile, was whispering and slightly sad 0:14:34.240 --> 0:14:38.560 like begiful, and then slightly says I would stand up 0:14:38.600 --> 0:14:42.080 for my friends, which Kirsh says is the right answer, 0:14:42.680 --> 0:14:45.040 although I'm still not sure how that connects to I 0:14:45.040 --> 0:14:48.720 guess he's basically Kirsch's basically saying, be loyal. You didn't 0:14:48.720 --> 0:14:51.240 see anything, you didn't hear anything, you don't say anything, 0:14:52.680 --> 0:14:53.320 be loyal to the. 0:14:53.320 --> 0:14:56.520 People that made I think Cash's like I think Cash 0:14:56.520 --> 0:14:59.800 she's getting like curious. I think that at the beginning 0:14:59.880 --> 0:15:03.640 of this season he was very much like do your job, 0:15:03.960 --> 0:15:06.560 like get things done. But I think that the arrival 0:15:06.600 --> 0:15:09.320 of the different types of alien species and the way 0:15:09.360 --> 0:15:11.680 that the kids are reacting to them, I think he 0:15:11.880 --> 0:15:15.760 is finding his own curiosity again rather than this kind 0:15:15.760 --> 0:15:19.680 of just acceptance of the boy genius. Once I felt 0:15:19.680 --> 0:15:21.400 like this was really interesting. 0:15:22.160 --> 0:15:29.080 As a burseoning potential alliance between the Synthetics and the 0:15:29.120 --> 0:15:35.600 aliens against meat against humans. I saw this as basically saying, 0:15:36.360 --> 0:15:38.840 when the rubber hits the road, who are you going 0:15:38.920 --> 0:15:42.200 to listen to the others who are like you the synthetics. 0:15:41.600 --> 0:15:43.160 And me or. 0:15:45.000 --> 0:15:48.080 Meat sticks like boy Genius Cavalier and Arthur and the 0:15:48.120 --> 0:15:51.640 rest of them going to be loyal to if you 0:15:51.680 --> 0:15:54.560 see me, let's see you say you see me put 0:15:54.600 --> 0:15:56.960 my hands around Boy Cavalier's neck. 0:15:57.400 --> 0:16:00.720 Right right, You're going to be a gon't be saying. 0:16:01.240 --> 0:16:04.200 In the lab, curse continues with these experiments. They expose 0:16:04.280 --> 0:16:07.800 the sheep horrendously to the eye, and the eye attacks 0:16:07.840 --> 0:16:12.240 it and pulls out the sheep's eye and then hacks 0:16:12.320 --> 0:16:18.200 into its nervous system and is now using the sheep's body, 0:16:18.720 --> 0:16:23.320 which I think remains somewhat alive right or maybe dying quickly, but. 0:16:23.360 --> 0:16:26.280 Like like it's definitely the kind it's almost kind of 0:16:26.320 --> 0:16:31.080 like the the Corterceps style, like it's taking you over. 0:16:31.200 --> 0:16:34.280 It takes over your brain, but your body can still function. Also, 0:16:34.320 --> 0:16:36.600 I have to say, this is going to sound really silly, 0:16:37.120 --> 0:16:40.560 but I never the iyapus. I didn't expect the eye 0:16:40.560 --> 0:16:42.520 to be such an important part. I thought that was 0:16:42.600 --> 0:16:44.640 just how I lived. I didn't realize. So I thought 0:16:44.640 --> 0:16:48.800 this was a really inventive and clever way of adding 0:16:48.840 --> 0:16:51.920 a new type of creepy alien to the species. 0:16:52.000 --> 0:16:54.600 Yes, and one wonders, like how related it is to 0:16:54.680 --> 0:17:02.000 the original black goo species various black goo created. Yeah, 0:17:02.040 --> 0:17:07.920 Boy Genius again is like, you know, it's another rock 0:17:07.960 --> 0:17:11.399 hard moment for Boy Genius. He's like he can't believe 0:17:11.440 --> 0:17:12.040 what he's seeing. 0:17:12.080 --> 0:17:14.399 You can't believe this. He's like, this is incredible. 0:17:14.560 --> 0:17:16.720 Kursh can tell from the brain wave readout that this 0:17:16.800 --> 0:17:19.520 is a very very intelligent creature, very very smart, and 0:17:19.560 --> 0:17:22.000 he studies it through the glass, moving around, like looking 0:17:22.040 --> 0:17:25.720 at it from different angles. Lobot is like, you know, 0:17:25.760 --> 0:17:28.240 if those things get out, and Boy Genius is like, great, 0:17:28.320 --> 0:17:31.800 who cares, Like, we let's take the risk, no reward 0:17:31.880 --> 0:17:35.360 without risk if it escapes to escape, like, we'll be careful. 0:17:35.359 --> 0:17:39.640 But this guy is insane sight and and this is 0:17:39.840 --> 0:17:43.600 really where you kind of feel that first, like, oh, 0:17:44.480 --> 0:17:49.119 could Kursh could curseh And some of the synthetics say, 0:17:50.840 --> 0:17:53.000 what's happened to the aliens is what happened to us 0:17:53.680 --> 0:17:56.159 and this is bad and the aliens don't want to 0:17:56.240 --> 0:17:58.760 kill us. They and they never try to hug our 0:17:58.760 --> 0:18:03.000 faces or attack us. Well, NIBBs would disagree, but and 0:18:03.480 --> 0:18:05.840 you know, maybe the time has come to free ourselves 0:18:05.880 --> 0:18:11.840 of these human meat puppets. Boy Genius locks eyes with 0:18:11.920 --> 0:18:14.720 the creature and like whispers stuff to a very very 0:18:14.720 --> 0:18:16.240 creepy he wants. 0:18:16.400 --> 0:18:18.800 The funny thing is, I think, like I wonder if 0:18:18.840 --> 0:18:23.240 boy Genius even has a tiny in the back of 0:18:23.240 --> 0:18:26.040 his mind, like an itch on the back of his brain, 0:18:26.320 --> 0:18:28.640 because I feel like, in this moment, like he's trying 0:18:28.640 --> 0:18:30.760 to act like he has a connection with the creatures, 0:18:30.800 --> 0:18:33.600 but it's like really clear that he doesn't. Yeah, whereas 0:18:33.640 --> 0:18:36.520 we can see the sense and the hybrids, there's some 0:18:36.600 --> 0:18:38.320 kind of connection that I. 0:18:39.000 --> 0:18:43.480 Don't know that he is aware enough to see the 0:18:43.520 --> 0:18:48.920 possible tensions brewing around him with the synths and these aliens. 0:18:48.960 --> 0:18:52.199 But I do think, on a very cynical level, I 0:18:52.240 --> 0:18:55.800 think that he heard I think he heard Curse say 0:18:56.040 --> 0:18:58.560 this is a very very smart creature, and all of 0:18:58.560 --> 0:19:02.480 a sudden, Boy Genius like wants to connect with it exactly. 0:19:02.600 --> 0:19:04.520 Oh my god, that's such a good point. Yeah, he's 0:19:04.560 --> 0:19:06.040 still looking for that conversation. 0:19:08.240 --> 0:19:11.640 Arthur takes Dame to a quiet spot outside the labs, 0:19:12.240 --> 0:19:14.320 and all of a sudden, he has some very very 0:19:14.600 --> 0:19:22.160 serious concerns about everything they're doing, most pressingly the alien 0:19:22.200 --> 0:19:26.480 species now on this island, Like what can they do? 0:19:26.600 --> 0:19:29.000 What are the dangers? We don't know? He's also concerned 0:19:29.000 --> 0:19:32.280 that whatever the Lost Boys are supposed to be doing, 0:19:32.280 --> 0:19:34.400 And this is interesting, how did you read this? Because 0:19:34.400 --> 0:19:39.280 he's basically like, apparently the Lost Boys are built for 0:19:39.280 --> 0:19:41.720 a purpose that we don't understand, right, we don't actually 0:19:41.760 --> 0:19:44.280 know what the product line is designed to do. He 0:19:44.600 --> 0:19:47.000 but Arthur seems very concerned that they're not ready to 0:19:47.080 --> 0:19:49.359 do whatever it is that they are going to be 0:19:49.520 --> 0:19:50.840 marketed as doing. 0:19:52.040 --> 0:19:57.879 Yeah, I wonder if it was like I just wonder 0:19:57.920 --> 0:20:01.399 if he is upset because this is like not what 0:20:01.520 --> 0:20:03.760 they're supposed to be doing. And I felt like when 0:20:03.800 --> 0:20:06.560 they were talking about Prodigy, the name of it and everything, 0:20:07.080 --> 0:20:12.000 the idea was going to be the brain body situation. 0:20:12.240 --> 0:20:14.360 Then you can essentially have them just living in your 0:20:14.359 --> 0:20:17.840 house as your child or as your relative who died. 0:20:18.480 --> 0:20:23.120 But Boy Genius basically turned them into weapons the first 0:20:23.200 --> 0:20:26.760 moment he had the chance, when they still had you know, 0:20:27.320 --> 0:20:31.720 ten year old brain going inside their heads. So I 0:20:31.720 --> 0:20:35.800 don't know, but yes, Arthur Dame definitely arguing married couple 0:20:35.840 --> 0:20:39.359 at the center of this hilarious. 0:20:38.840 --> 0:20:42.080 Now this brings up some interesting I think. Yes, so 0:20:42.200 --> 0:20:45.919 they were talking about this, if this technology existed, and 0:20:45.960 --> 0:20:50.000 you could upload people into a fully functioning synthetic body 0:20:49.800 --> 0:20:53.119 and the and when you speak to it, it has 0:20:53.160 --> 0:20:55.959 all the memories and the personality basically of the person. 0:20:57.000 --> 0:21:00.199 If that was possible, I think it would be. I 0:21:00.240 --> 0:21:03.600 don't think that you could legally call that a person. 0:21:03.760 --> 0:21:06.640 You certainly couldn't call it the same person. Like let's 0:21:06.640 --> 0:21:09.159 say it was a wendy situation where they died and 0:21:09.240 --> 0:21:10.400 then you brought them back as this. 0:21:11.240 --> 0:21:13.560 Yeah, I think it's you would basically just say they're 0:21:13.560 --> 0:21:14.600 an upload of a quncient. 0:21:15.000 --> 0:21:17.760 You'd have to classify them as something completely different, like 0:21:17.800 --> 0:21:20.960 I think legally, Like imagine a situation in which they 0:21:21.040 --> 0:21:24.760 upload you, but then the doctor runs into the room 0:21:24.800 --> 0:21:26.879 where you're on the table and says, actually we were wrong, 0:21:26.960 --> 0:21:29.120 Like you don't have stage four cancer. You're gonna live. 0:21:29.359 --> 0:21:32.359 So now that both of you are alive, okay, you 0:21:32.400 --> 0:21:38.320 could classify that other synthetic as like a different you know, 0:21:38.440 --> 0:21:41.160 Jason two. But Jason two is still going to want 0:21:41.160 --> 0:21:43.080 all Jason one's things. It's going to live in my house. 0:21:43.119 --> 0:21:45.000 It's gonna want my dog, it's gonna want like all 0:21:45.040 --> 0:21:46.280 the relationships that I have. 0:21:47.160 --> 0:21:49.879 And is that why they've only been making these with 0:21:49.960 --> 0:21:51.159 femininely ill kids. 0:21:51.240 --> 0:21:53.399 I think yes, because obviously if you do it to 0:21:53.440 --> 0:21:57.240 a living person, it's the problems are severe and very 0:21:58.960 --> 0:22:01.879 and very disruptive, and so legally, I don't think you 0:22:01.880 --> 0:22:03.800 could call these I don't think you could call a 0:22:03.840 --> 0:22:06.480 synthetic person a person. Like if it, I think you'd 0:22:06.520 --> 0:22:09.200 have to call it a synthetic person. They'll invent another class. 0:22:09.480 --> 0:22:12.399 But the other thing I was thinking is like, like, 0:22:12.440 --> 0:22:15.639 what do you even let's say that technology did exist. 0:22:15.680 --> 0:22:21.320 I don't even know what all the uses forget the 0:22:21.359 --> 0:22:23.480 fact that like ethically and Morley to make these things, 0:22:23.520 --> 0:22:24.119 it's terrible. 0:22:24.760 --> 0:22:25.000 Yeah. 0:22:25.040 --> 0:22:27.399 All the uses that I come up with that you 0:22:27.520 --> 0:22:29.680 that you could use like now today, like right away, 0:22:29.720 --> 0:22:34.119 are terrible. It's it's basically like, okay, you train it. 0:22:34.320 --> 0:22:37.679 You take a highly trained Navy seal, right that you've 0:22:37.720 --> 0:22:41.640 spent fifteen million dollars training them, You upload their consciousness 0:22:41.640 --> 0:22:43.920 into these bodies, and then you send those out to kill. 0:22:43.920 --> 0:22:47.240 And now the guy the Navy seal doesn't get PTSD 0:22:47.320 --> 0:22:50.120 and doesn't get injured, and you just send these things 0:22:50.119 --> 0:22:53.159 out to die. Die die, die die. That's one version. 0:22:53.560 --> 0:22:56.720 Version two is like some sort of basically a haircut 0:22:56.760 --> 0:22:58.679 of that's like some sort of like slave labor. You 0:22:58.720 --> 0:23:03.399 take like highly skilled like mechanists and engineers and you 0:23:03.440 --> 0:23:07.120 send them to do like crazy dangerous jobs like on Mars. Yeah, 0:23:07.119 --> 0:23:11.080 which is like basically a blade runner or and this 0:23:11.119 --> 0:23:14.800 is I'm sorry that this is what I thought of. 0:23:15.560 --> 0:23:19.879 Let's say you get like a high value prisoner, you 0:23:20.000 --> 0:23:23.359 upload their consciousness into a body so horrific, and that 0:23:23.480 --> 0:23:26.399 body is not a person, does not have legal human rights. 0:23:26.520 --> 0:23:30.040 You can torture that version of the person all day 0:23:30.040 --> 0:23:34.080 and night until it dies. It should get like the 0:23:34.119 --> 0:23:36.840 information you need. I think like those are like the 0:23:36.880 --> 0:23:39.919 applications that I immediately come up with, and they're that. 0:23:40.240 --> 0:23:44.639 It's horrific but true. And I also think that you 0:23:44.760 --> 0:23:47.320 make a really interesting point because also we've seen how 0:23:47.320 --> 0:23:49.680 they can turn off Wendy's hearing and they can turn 0:23:49.680 --> 0:23:51.840 it back on again, so I'm sure they can probably 0:23:51.880 --> 0:23:56.560 also play with pain receptors and nervous systems spies probably. 0:23:56.600 --> 0:23:59.159 I think they would be incredible spies. You know, you 0:23:59.200 --> 0:24:01.600 send them behind any you don't care if they get captured. 0:24:01.880 --> 0:24:06.119 You also can't tell physically again, kind of like it 0:24:06.240 --> 0:24:08.720 was with Ash in the first Alien movie and onwards. 0:24:09.119 --> 0:24:11.800 You can't tell that they are synthetic or that they 0:24:11.840 --> 0:24:14.760 are not hybrids, you know, so that they are hybrids. 0:24:14.800 --> 0:24:19.760 So I would say definitely, spy, assassin, any kind of weapon. 0:24:20.280 --> 0:24:24.160 I'm also interested in the name of the company being Prodigy, 0:24:24.640 --> 0:24:27.480 them only being able to do this to kids, and 0:24:27.680 --> 0:24:30.560 obviously boy genius. There is some kind of thing about 0:24:30.840 --> 0:24:35.159 the idea of like youth and how you can save youth, 0:24:35.240 --> 0:24:37.280 and is there even a way I wonder, Okay, listen 0:24:37.280 --> 0:24:41.359 to this for a crazy one. What if what they're 0:24:41.400 --> 0:24:45.720 really trying to do is they do this version of it, 0:24:46.920 --> 0:24:49.280 But what if there's a different version where they can 0:24:49.920 --> 0:24:55.840 take an old person's consciousness, transplant it into a kid's 0:24:55.880 --> 0:24:58.760 body and a kid's brain, and then put the kid's 0:24:58.800 --> 0:25:01.960 brain into the machine. Because how you really need to 0:25:02.080 --> 0:25:06.040 help old people extend their lives. So I'm interested to 0:25:06.119 --> 0:25:08.840 know if there's a version of it where you are 0:25:08.920 --> 0:25:10.480 kind of essentially. 0:25:11.320 --> 0:25:12.439 Like a swap. 0:25:12.720 --> 0:25:17.000 Us like a swap so that the kid becomes You. 0:25:16.960 --> 0:25:19.080 Even need to take take kid's mind out, though you 0:25:19.119 --> 0:25:22.400 could just like just write over it, you wouldn't I guess. 0:25:22.359 --> 0:25:24.119 Yeah, no, that's what I mean, just right over that 0:25:24.200 --> 0:25:25.960 and then you put it into the body, you know. 0:25:26.119 --> 0:25:28.960 So I'm like, I'm intrigued because I feel like, to 0:25:29.080 --> 0:25:34.720 really make this profitable, it's either weapons or life, kind 0:25:34.760 --> 0:25:38.080 of making your life longer. And even though obviously lots 0:25:38.080 --> 0:25:40.200 of people do have sick kids, the real people who 0:25:40.240 --> 0:25:42.480 want to make their lives longer are these kind of 0:25:43.400 --> 0:25:46.680 obsessive men who feel like they have this huge thing 0:25:46.800 --> 0:25:49.200 that they have to keep working on and they must 0:25:49.200 --> 0:25:52.199 always be able to stay as youthful as possible. So 0:25:52.240 --> 0:25:55.080 I feel like the real money is in getting adults 0:25:55.600 --> 0:25:58.640 brains into those bodies, which we know they say their 0:25:58.640 --> 0:26:01.680 brains are too rigid. So I'm also interested in how 0:26:01.720 --> 0:26:03.840 they are planning to make that work because I feel 0:26:03.840 --> 0:26:05.879 like that has to be part of the money. 0:26:06.000 --> 0:26:08.840 Yeah, I feel like obviously you would send them to 0:26:08.880 --> 0:26:12.760 do very dangerous things, but I guess I then would 0:26:13.119 --> 0:26:16.320 need to understand like the cost proposition of how much 0:26:16.359 --> 0:26:18.600 these cost like if you just. 0:26:18.560 --> 0:26:21.280 Throw a billion human into space, yeah you can, it 0:26:21.280 --> 0:26:22.000 doesn't matter. 0:26:21.960 --> 0:26:24.560 Right, you can send one of these to like go 0:26:24.720 --> 0:26:26.760 study the sun, right you know. 0:26:26.920 --> 0:26:29.159 Yeah exactly, But but like how much money are you 0:26:29.240 --> 0:26:31.200 making from that? And how much money did it cost? 0:26:31.320 --> 0:26:34.159 Yeah, so it'll be interesting to see what these you 0:26:34.240 --> 0:26:36.520 used to for. My sense is probably like war. 0:26:37.320 --> 0:26:39.200 Yeah, war, I think is your number one. Right. 0:26:39.280 --> 0:26:42.080 They're probably gonna use these as his foot soldiers or something, 0:26:42.080 --> 0:26:45.320 although what is the cost per unit? Like if each 0:26:45.440 --> 0:26:49.240 body costs a billion dollars, then it's like why I 0:26:49.400 --> 0:26:52.640 even do it? Just use poor people like they've been 0:26:52.640 --> 0:26:58.000 doing for years. Anyway, Arthur basically says to Dame, listen, 0:26:58.040 --> 0:27:01.360 I want us thinking about contingency play. These aliens are here. 0:27:01.480 --> 0:27:05.040 The stuff with the Lost Boys is going in different directions, 0:27:05.040 --> 0:27:07.160 like if this all goes sideways, we need to think 0:27:07.160 --> 0:27:11.360 about getting out, okay yeah, And Dame is like, hey, yeah, yeah, 0:27:11.359 --> 0:27:12.040 it'll be fine. 0:27:12.320 --> 0:27:16.200 Nibs, she's not a serious passon, and like she has 0:27:16.240 --> 0:27:18.879 not realized the seriousness of her situation until late. 0:27:19.240 --> 0:27:21.679 Well, she's about to realize it now. NIBBs walks up, 0:27:21.680 --> 0:27:23.800 and NIBBs is acting weird. 0:27:24.160 --> 0:27:27.240 Which honestly normal day for Nibs. But she's obvious she's 0:27:27.280 --> 0:27:30.560 always been struggling. Yeah, she's with this more than the others. 0:27:30.680 --> 0:27:35.320 Listen, she's the she has the mind of a young person, 0:27:35.440 --> 0:27:39.520 and she's been severely traumatized by both the process that 0:27:39.560 --> 0:27:42.760 she's undergone that put her in this new body and 0:27:42.800 --> 0:27:44.480 everything she's seen in the last few days. So she 0:27:44.520 --> 0:27:47.639 comes up and she's like, I'm pregnant for real, Like 0:27:47.680 --> 0:27:49.640 for real, for real, I am a baby. I'm gonna 0:27:49.680 --> 0:27:54.119 have a baby. And Dame smartly plays along because when 0:27:54.200 --> 0:27:56.800 Arthur's like, that's impossible, you don't have you're not a person. 0:27:57.480 --> 0:27:59.680 Nibs I would. 0:27:59.440 --> 0:28:02.280 Say, she doesn't get violent, but you could. She reacts 0:28:02.400 --> 0:28:05.720 very negatively, and so Dame smartly plays along and she's like, 0:28:05.720 --> 0:28:09.240 come to my office, let's talk privately. They go to 0:28:09.320 --> 0:28:15.000 the office and NIBBs is like, very, very dedicated to 0:28:15.040 --> 0:28:18.080 this idea that she's going to have a baby. And 0:28:19.000 --> 0:28:21.280 by the way, she understands how babies are made, the 0:28:21.359 --> 0:28:25.560 physical and biological process, and she's not at all convinced 0:28:25.560 --> 0:28:26.840 that you need to go through all that to have 0:28:26.920 --> 0:28:29.800 a baby. She's because she is having a baby. And 0:28:29.840 --> 0:28:31.920 while all that stuff didn't happen. She's having a baby, 0:28:31.960 --> 0:28:35.280 So what are you gonna do about it? Dame? The 0:28:35.320 --> 0:28:38.160 penny drops for Dame that this whole project that they've 0:28:38.200 --> 0:28:43.480 been working on is like rushing along without any kind 0:28:43.520 --> 0:28:46.840 of heed to the potential consequences or disruptions that are 0:28:46.880 --> 0:28:51.400 now happening. NIBBs then gets, you know, Dame, I think, 0:28:51.440 --> 0:28:53.800 tries to be like, let's reason with you, Hey, would 0:28:53.800 --> 0:28:55.479 you like to see the blueprints of your body? 0:28:56.160 --> 0:28:57.520 No, that's not what she needed. 0:28:58.320 --> 0:29:01.520 Becomes violent now and NIBBs is super strong, as are 0:29:01.560 --> 0:29:06.320 all these kids, and you know, puts her. She just 0:29:06.320 --> 0:29:08.760 does not want to and she continues, she doubles down. 0:29:08.760 --> 0:29:11.120 She's like, it's a girl, I think the baby, and 0:29:11.120 --> 0:29:14.480 I'm going to name it Clarissa. And we get these 0:29:14.520 --> 0:29:17.360 flashes of memories and we realize that NIBBs is haunted 0:29:17.400 --> 0:29:20.600 by the confrontation with the eye creature in the lab 0:29:20.960 --> 0:29:24.680 and that was horrifying, horrifying, and she doesn't it's so 0:29:24.800 --> 0:29:27.760 horrifying in fact, that she does not want to talk 0:29:27.800 --> 0:29:29.320 about it. She doesn't want to talk about She will 0:29:29.360 --> 0:29:32.360 rather talk about anything else. She violently does not want 0:29:32.400 --> 0:29:34.400 to talk about it. Like, she grabs Dame around the 0:29:34.480 --> 0:29:39.440 neck and Dame plays it off, goes up, presses a 0:29:39.440 --> 0:29:43.120 panic button. Guards show up, and then she's like, oh 0:29:43.160 --> 0:29:46.680 my god, Nibs, I forgot I have a meeting with Boycovalier. 0:29:46.720 --> 0:29:49.160 I have to go now bye. Yeah, the guards will 0:29:49.160 --> 0:29:51.720 show you to your room, and NIBBs leaves with one 0:29:51.720 --> 0:29:55.960 of Dame's stuffed animals, and Dame then pulls one of 0:29:55.960 --> 0:29:57.760 the guards aside and says, we have a level three 0:29:57.840 --> 0:29:59.920 security event. You know what that means, which I think 0:30:00.120 --> 0:30:01.920 probably means we're wiping Nibs. 0:30:02.360 --> 0:30:04.200 Yes, that's what it feels like to me, is like 0:30:04.520 --> 0:30:06.840 we're getting rid of her. Like whatever that means. 0:30:07.360 --> 0:30:09.800 She's gone, yes, we're gonna hold down the start button 0:30:09.800 --> 0:30:13.600 for five seconds and then enter reboot mode, control all delete. Yes. 0:30:14.960 --> 0:30:18.600 Joe goes to see Lobot for that meaning, and Lobot 0:30:18.680 --> 0:30:22.560 is like, listen, that's what you got to understand. Wendy's 0:30:22.560 --> 0:30:25.360 not your sister. That's a synthetic body with the brain 0:30:25.440 --> 0:30:28.720 waves that are modeled on your sisters. Also, you work 0:30:28.800 --> 0:30:33.480 for me. Also, everything you've seen and heard, even the 0:30:33.520 --> 0:30:36.640 air you are breathing right now, is the intellectual property 0:30:36.720 --> 0:30:39.400 of Prodigy Corporation, and Joe's like, well, I don't work 0:30:39.400 --> 0:30:41.479 here anymore. Quit and well it says, okay, you can 0:30:41.520 --> 0:30:43.360 do that, but that means you can never talk to 0:30:43.400 --> 0:30:45.760 any of your friends that you made in. 0:30:45.760 --> 0:30:48.640 Your your peers who you spent months and. 0:30:48.480 --> 0:30:51.280 Wendy you will never speak to her again because she 0:30:51.640 --> 0:30:54.720 is lockstock and barrel, the property of Prodigy Corporation. And 0:30:54.800 --> 0:30:56.760 also like, what's up with that lung that we make 0:30:56.880 --> 0:30:57.400 that we grew you? 0:30:57.640 --> 0:30:59.360 Yeah, whonder where that came from? 0:30:59.560 --> 0:31:02.560 So you can leave, but your credit score is going 0:31:02.640 --> 0:31:06.240 to get nuked from orbit and will never be the 0:31:06.280 --> 0:31:07.000 fucking same. 0:31:07.720 --> 0:31:10.640 So it's gonna be worse with that ever of mine 0:31:10.760 --> 0:31:11.240 or something. 0:31:11.560 --> 0:31:18.200 I mean, if the class stuff really comes through in this. 0:31:18.440 --> 0:31:21.520 Yeah, I also want to say, like, I think that 0:31:22.440 --> 0:31:24.720 a lot of the stuff they've been exploring in this 0:31:24.840 --> 0:31:29.200 show is quite broad and you can kind of read 0:31:29.240 --> 0:31:31.600 into it however you want to read into it. But 0:31:31.760 --> 0:31:35.320 this moment and the context of like the lung and 0:31:35.400 --> 0:31:38.760 the new lung, and how having your body directly connected 0:31:38.760 --> 0:31:42.800 to the corporation that you work for is really dangerous, 0:31:42.840 --> 0:31:46.320 and how if you can't pay off medical debt then 0:31:46.320 --> 0:31:48.400 you can end up with bad credit that would ruin 0:31:48.440 --> 0:31:51.960 your life. Noah Hawley's being very direct here. This is 0:31:52.120 --> 0:31:55.800 this is less a analogy than it is a direct comment. 0:31:56.000 --> 0:32:00.640 And I think that's really exciting vibe And Yes, Common, 0:32:00.960 --> 0:32:03.920 One of my favorite films I show with super producer 0:32:04.000 --> 0:32:09.040 Common is Repo the Genetic Opera. It is definitely giving 0:32:09.080 --> 0:32:11.640 that the idea that you could kind of reclaim a 0:32:11.760 --> 0:32:15.280 lung or an organ that you didn't pay for. Yeah, 0:32:15.520 --> 0:32:20.680 very very bleak stuff. And I kind of love that 0:32:20.800 --> 0:32:23.520 Lowboy is the one who's giving these out as well, 0:32:23.560 --> 0:32:26.080 Like boy Genius really just does not handle his own 0:32:26.120 --> 0:32:29.000 business in any way, shape or form. This man is 0:32:29.040 --> 0:32:32.360 like thinking about Peter Patten. Everyone else is doing the 0:32:32.440 --> 0:32:33.280 damage control. 0:32:33.880 --> 0:32:38.479 So Joe then wants to kind of change the subject. 0:32:38.520 --> 0:32:41.160 He's like, Okay, well is that my sister? What did 0:32:41.200 --> 0:32:43.200 you do? Or like what was the process? Like? Tell 0:32:43.240 --> 0:32:49.080 me about it? And love that is, Like, well, first 0:32:49.120 --> 0:32:51.000 of all, are you in or out? Like are you 0:32:51.080 --> 0:32:52.720 do you work for us or not? Like are you 0:32:52.840 --> 0:32:55.800 quitting and ruining your life or not? And by the way, 0:32:55.880 --> 0:33:00.680 your sister, Wendy quote unquote or quote sister, she is 0:33:01.160 --> 0:33:03.920 one hundred the property of the Project Corporation. 0:33:04.200 --> 0:33:07.120 It does look whether she is real or isn't real? 0:33:07.400 --> 0:33:10.440 Is your sister or isn't your sister? She is? And 0:33:10.520 --> 0:33:13.600 I do think something I think that's really interesting about 0:33:13.640 --> 0:33:19.800 the show is actually, this is the kind of this 0:33:19.960 --> 0:33:22.680 is the version of this technology that we've seen in 0:33:22.720 --> 0:33:26.520 sci fi that I think is the most definitively you 0:33:26.640 --> 0:33:29.840 can say that is your sister kind of situation because 0:33:30.160 --> 0:33:32.640 even though it is brain waves just based on your sister, 0:33:33.000 --> 0:33:36.000 that was a conscious choice your sister made to go 0:33:36.160 --> 0:33:38.760 into that body, and now the body has her memories 0:33:38.800 --> 0:33:41.040 that remember that choice. So I think we're in a 0:33:41.080 --> 0:33:45.920 really interesting situation when it comes to sentience and agency 0:33:45.960 --> 0:33:48.320 over the human body and who you are. But obviously, 0:33:48.360 --> 0:33:51.800 like can a ten year old child even actually consent 0:33:51.960 --> 0:33:55.080 to a choice like this or a decision like this, 0:33:55.240 --> 0:33:56.760 That's where the things start getting really. 0:33:56.680 --> 0:34:02.400 Mabsolutely they can't. Yes, no, no, the baby yeah. So 0:34:04.240 --> 0:34:08.880 there is, however, a carrot too. After the stick and 0:34:09.000 --> 0:34:13.600 Joe leaves the office, he sees his old colleagues Rachety 0:34:13.640 --> 0:34:17.160 and Siberian. They're fine, and apparently the whole search and 0:34:17.160 --> 0:34:20.000 rescue squad, all his buddies, are now based on Research Island. 0:34:20.719 --> 0:34:23.520 Okay, Jason, I got my class hostages. Yes, I got 0:34:23.560 --> 0:34:26.040 a question for you. Who is I was thinking about 0:34:26.080 --> 0:34:28.160 this a lot of stuff. Who made that choice? Like 0:34:28.200 --> 0:34:29.760 who is the real boss? 0:34:29.840 --> 0:34:30.440 Who is the. 0:34:30.360 --> 0:34:34.120 One who's making these decisions? While boy Genius isn't, Like 0:34:34.160 --> 0:34:37.279 who was smart enough to know? Well, Joe's him. Maybe 0:34:37.320 --> 0:34:39.480 we can use these people to navigate. 0:34:39.719 --> 0:34:42.240 I guess Lobot is like the fix Law. 0:34:42.239 --> 0:34:46.120 The kind of real the real brains at the moment behind, 0:34:46.200 --> 0:34:48.920 kind of keeping things under wraps right now. 0:34:49.520 --> 0:34:51.800 Yeah, And I think we're sjured. Does a very dangerous 0:34:51.880 --> 0:34:56.400 job because he is colleagues work in a very dangerous 0:34:56.719 --> 0:34:59.960 line of work, search and rescue, and anything can happen 0:35:00.280 --> 0:35:04.400 to them, to that whole squad exactly. Wendy has a 0:35:04.440 --> 0:35:07.320 meeting with boy Genius, and Boy Genius is like fucking 0:35:08.120 --> 0:35:12.320 so obsessed with Peter Pan and like again it's it's 0:35:12.360 --> 0:35:15.000 the very bunch Peter Teal and Lord of the Rings. 0:35:15.520 --> 0:35:20.200 Wendy is. You can tell from this conversation empathizing somewhat 0:35:20.239 --> 0:35:23.680 with the aliens something there is an emotional appeal in 0:35:23.719 --> 0:35:27.480 that communication that they are sending that she is responding to, 0:35:27.640 --> 0:35:30.920 and she says they don't like being experimented on, and 0:35:30.960 --> 0:35:33.120 he's like, how did they tell you that? And he's like, well, well, 0:35:33.920 --> 0:35:36.800 and she basically says, well would you want to be? 0:35:36.840 --> 0:35:37.759 Like would you? 0:35:37.880 --> 0:35:41.439 Which I have to say feels like foreshadowing to see 0:35:41.440 --> 0:35:47.480 some good torture and experimentation on boy Genius sun Cereal the. 0:35:47.440 --> 0:35:52.799 Sense and the aliens will rise up. Boy Genius then 0:35:52.880 --> 0:35:55.600 asks like, why did you Tanny want them? And and 0:35:55.800 --> 0:36:00.560 you know why? And she doesn't know, and he basically 0:36:00.680 --> 0:36:02.799 now he raises the question of Joe, what do we 0:36:02.840 --> 0:36:05.480 do about Joe? I don't like Joe. Joe is like 0:36:05.960 --> 0:36:09.120 distracting you from your work, and shouldn't we send Joe 0:36:09.200 --> 0:36:12.480 out of here because we don't need him? And when 0:36:12.480 --> 0:36:14.120 he's like no, please, please, please, don't to send my 0:36:14.120 --> 0:36:16.920 brother away, and then Boise's just like yeah, but like, 0:36:17.520 --> 0:36:19.080 is does he really care about you if you didn't 0:36:19.080 --> 0:36:20.640 come see you when you were sick and dying? 0:36:20.719 --> 0:36:20.879 Oh? 0:36:21.160 --> 0:36:24.839 Clearly was like watching and listening to this conversation her 0:36:24.880 --> 0:36:29.080 eyes and knows all about knows that pressure point very well. 0:36:29.680 --> 0:36:33.000 And he says, well, listen, here's the deal. You talk 0:36:33.040 --> 0:36:36.359 to the aliens. Help me understand them and then we'll 0:36:36.400 --> 0:36:39.680 keep Joe around. So that's a lot that's we're doing that. 0:36:39.880 --> 0:36:42.640 We go onto the LA lab where the observation testing 0:36:42.680 --> 0:36:46.200 of the eye is continuing. Toodles says, hey, I want 0:36:46.200 --> 0:36:49.799 to change my name to Isaac after you know, Sir 0:36:49.840 --> 0:36:55.640 Isaac Newton, and they're like, okay. Isaac runs into Slightly 0:36:55.680 --> 0:36:58.600 and tells Slightly that hey, I'm going by Isaac now, 0:36:58.960 --> 0:37:01.880 and it's like, you know, Toodles is like a kid's name. 0:37:01.880 --> 0:37:04.160 I don't like it, and Slightly it's like, wait, well 0:37:04.160 --> 0:37:06.240 you can change our names. Hold on as sad, and 0:37:06.320 --> 0:37:09.480 he's also asking he's Slightly is also acting very very 0:37:09.480 --> 0:37:11.080 sketchy cleuely come down here to. 0:37:11.000 --> 0:37:13.320 Steal the literal voice in his head. 0:37:13.360 --> 0:37:16.719 Right, and he's lies about being asked to come get 0:37:16.760 --> 0:37:18.760 something and then leaves. 0:37:19.200 --> 0:37:21.480 Okay, I'll ask you about this. This is another one 0:37:21.480 --> 0:37:23.520 of my favorite theories that I've been seeing in the 0:37:23.520 --> 0:37:29.600 discord online, essentially that Morrow is Captain Hook because he 0:37:29.640 --> 0:37:32.839 has the cyborg arm and that's kind of his role 0:37:32.960 --> 0:37:35.520 in the peter Pan of it all, and I thought 0:37:35.560 --> 0:37:38.160 that was very interesting, especially now with this kind of 0:37:38.239 --> 0:37:43.000 connection between him and you know, Slightly. 0:37:42.920 --> 0:37:46.080 I hate the Peter Pan metaphor so much, I know, 0:37:46.160 --> 0:37:48.600 and the only thing that, the only thing, the saving 0:37:48.640 --> 0:37:52.080 grace of it is in this episode, I finally realized 0:37:52.120 --> 0:37:58.960 that the metaphor is less about Holly putting this metaphor 0:37:58.960 --> 0:38:00.799 on it, although that's also an aspect of it, and 0:38:00.840 --> 0:38:05.400 it's more that, yeah, boy Cavalier is obsessed with this story. 0:38:05.640 --> 0:38:10.279 And so when moral Captain Hook, I answer, I don't 0:38:10.320 --> 0:38:13.200 fucking care, and I don't. I don't. 0:38:13.400 --> 0:38:16.480 I'm very interested. I like the idea that I like 0:38:16.560 --> 0:38:18.839 the archetypes. I think they're fine. I think it's good, 0:38:19.360 --> 0:38:22.799 and I'm but I'm also interested to see how boy 0:38:22.840 --> 0:38:28.120 Genius is gonna respond to the kids taking these little 0:38:28.120 --> 0:38:31.400 bits of agency, like renaming themselves, because that pushes it 0:38:31.520 --> 0:38:35.359 out of his understanding of the book and what he 0:38:35.440 --> 0:38:38.239 gains from the book, which is I'm just Peter Pan 0:38:38.320 --> 0:38:40.240 and I'm going to be young forever, and he doesn't 0:38:40.239 --> 0:38:42.239 really understand the point of the book, which is like, 0:38:42.280 --> 0:38:44.759 you will never end up empathizing or loving people if 0:38:44.760 --> 0:38:46.799 you don't allow yourself to grow. Well, I think so, 0:38:46.840 --> 0:38:49.200 I think you're right. It's very it's very much more 0:38:49.239 --> 0:38:52.480 about the book's connection to boy Genius than it is 0:38:52.480 --> 0:38:53.359 to Horley. 0:38:53.320 --> 0:38:56.439 Right, And I think that listen, I think that boy 0:38:56.520 --> 0:38:59.480 Genius is looking at all the ways that these his 0:38:59.600 --> 0:39:02.479 creation are developing, and I think that he is going 0:39:02.520 --> 0:39:07.360 to obviously version two is going to have some different features. 0:39:07.400 --> 0:39:12.240 They're going to be more controllable, more compliant, less unpredictable, probably, 0:39:12.320 --> 0:39:14.839 like that's probably what he would be thinking looking at this. 0:39:15.320 --> 0:39:17.840 So slightly goes out of the world to the woods 0:39:17.880 --> 0:39:20.560 to talk tomorrow again. It's like, I can't get the egg, 0:39:21.239 --> 0:39:23.680 and Marrow's like, well, what if I kill your whole family? 0:39:23.760 --> 0:39:26.040 I'm with your mom right now. I always kill him. 0:39:26.440 --> 0:39:28.640 And so you got to get that egg. But like, 0:39:29.239 --> 0:39:31.319 I've figured out an easier way to do it. You 0:39:31.360 --> 0:39:33.320 don't have to go get the egg. Just bring a 0:39:33.360 --> 0:39:35.319 person down there and be like, oh, look at that thing. 0:39:35.920 --> 0:39:36.920 Isn't that thing interesting? 0:39:36.960 --> 0:39:38.880 And get him in in that special position. 0:39:39.000 --> 0:39:41.319 You get him into the face hugger position, and the 0:39:41.360 --> 0:39:43.279 face hugger will take care of everything else. Then you 0:39:43.360 --> 0:39:46.360 just have to babysit that unconscious person for like twenty 0:39:46.360 --> 0:39:50.320 four hours and every now nature will take its course. 0:39:50.480 --> 0:39:55.840 Now here is I don't know if it's a loophole, 0:39:55.840 --> 0:39:59.120 But it's interesting why can't boy Cat, Why doesn't Boy 0:39:59.160 --> 0:40:02.640 Cavalier why is looking through Slightly's eyes or why doesn't 0:40:02.680 --> 0:40:07.800 he get the daily recordings from Slightly's head and realize 0:40:07.800 --> 0:40:08.680 that this is going on? 0:40:08.800 --> 0:40:12.520 Okay, is there something because it is synth to synth? 0:40:12.880 --> 0:40:13.879 Is there a way like. 0:40:13.880 --> 0:40:15.080 He's talking out loud? 0:40:16.120 --> 0:40:19.160 That's the crazy thing that we think carries like. 0:40:19.120 --> 0:40:24.360 I'm willing to I am willing to believe that Morrow 0:40:24.400 --> 0:40:26.880 has encrypted the signal in some sort of way that 0:40:27.000 --> 0:40:30.080 like Boy Genius Cavalier can't pick up. But the fact 0:40:30.120 --> 0:40:35.200 that he doesn't wonder who Slightly is talking out loud 0:40:35.280 --> 0:40:36.600 to is weird to me. 0:40:37.239 --> 0:40:40.360 Yeah, I think that's I guess. Also, well, I also 0:40:40.440 --> 0:40:45.319 think like the other option is kind of like that 0:40:46.520 --> 0:40:50.120 Boy Genius doesn't really do a lot of the looking 0:40:50.120 --> 0:40:52.120 through people's eyes doing all that kind of stuff, that 0:40:52.200 --> 0:40:55.560 stuff that like Kirsh does or Dame does. And I 0:40:55.600 --> 0:40:59.160 think that if it just so happens that Kirsh is 0:40:59.160 --> 0:41:01.480 the one, as we kind of see who's listening to 0:41:01.520 --> 0:41:04.880 the whole thing, he I think his curiosity is peaked 0:41:05.080 --> 0:41:07.880 to like, well, let's just see where this goes. Maybe 0:41:07.880 --> 0:41:10.839 something different is gonna happen. Yeah, I think we will 0:41:10.960 --> 0:41:15.440 learn more. I think than boy genius kind of feeling 0:41:15.560 --> 0:41:17.759 like that out of his hands. I don't think he 0:41:17.800 --> 0:41:19.120 does a lot of the handling. 0:41:19.480 --> 0:41:23.680 So that's a good question because they intercut this with 0:41:23.880 --> 0:41:29.919 Kersh watching a monitor, and it's kind of unclear if 0:41:29.960 --> 0:41:34.759 he is keeping tabs on this conversation or not. I 0:41:34.880 --> 0:41:37.000 tend to believe, like you, that he is aware of 0:41:37.040 --> 0:41:37.680 this conversation. 0:41:37.800 --> 0:41:39.759 Mike got says that Kersh is kind of it's his 0:41:40.040 --> 0:41:43.480 curiosity of like, well, okay, let's see what would happen 0:41:43.520 --> 0:41:44.439 if someone put their face. 0:41:44.440 --> 0:41:46.600 I also think like he's thinking, listen morerow is information 0:41:46.640 --> 0:41:49.080 about these creatures. I've been tasked with learning about these creatures. 0:41:49.520 --> 0:41:51.359 Mm hmm. That's a good hole for me. 0:41:51.440 --> 0:41:53.560 Maybe we'll get Yeah, maybe that's a loophole. Maybe I'll 0:41:53.560 --> 0:41:58.080 get some information this way, right, Yeah, Kirsh goes to 0:41:58.120 --> 0:42:00.239 see the eggs. He pets one of the eggs. It 0:42:00.239 --> 0:42:02.440 doesn't even move because Kurch is a synthetic and it 0:42:02.440 --> 0:42:03.120 doesn't want. 0:42:03.320 --> 0:42:05.040 We're going to take a quick break and we'll be 0:42:05.120 --> 0:42:05.560 right back. 0:42:20.640 --> 0:42:23.760 We're back elsewhere on the island. Wendy and Smee showed 0:42:23.880 --> 0:42:27.120 Joe the slips of paper that they eat. They create 0:42:27.320 --> 0:42:31.320 different flavors when they want to taste something. And Isaac, 0:42:32.480 --> 0:42:35.200 you know, is showing off that he knows how this 0:42:35.400 --> 0:42:38.680 technology works, and he's been also learning at a prodigious 0:42:38.719 --> 0:42:41.600 rate by downloading different information from the Internet, and just 0:42:41.600 --> 0:42:44.680 like putting in his brain. Curly asks Show to explain 0:42:44.760 --> 0:42:47.160 how the world ended up this way, and we learned 0:42:47.160 --> 0:42:50.720 that the old forms of government just were no longer workable, 0:42:50.760 --> 0:42:54.560 and so the corporations took over Prodigy, Whalen, Threshold, Dynamic, Lynch, 0:42:55.560 --> 0:42:58.440 And he tells them that the other companies are probably 0:42:58.520 --> 0:43:01.800 very mad at Prodigy because they wailing Tony's stuff, whiling 0:43:01.960 --> 0:43:07.719 tany obviously more than the others. Slash slightly wants to 0:43:07.760 --> 0:43:10.200 know why Wendy can have her brother here and none 0:43:10.200 --> 0:43:11.879 of the rest of them can have their families here. 0:43:11.920 --> 0:43:13.840 He's very upset at this. He's very angry at this, 0:43:13.960 --> 0:43:16.239 and he should be. Joe agrees with them, like you 0:43:16.280 --> 0:43:19.120 should all have your families here. That of course, and 0:43:19.160 --> 0:43:21.040 now the loss there's this moment where you feel like 0:43:21.040 --> 0:43:22.719 the Lost Boys beginning to unionize. 0:43:22.840 --> 0:43:29.560 Yet I'm like Joe is definitely ends up, like Joe's 0:43:29.640 --> 0:43:30.719 definitely gonna end. 0:43:30.640 --> 0:43:38.480 Up character that said, there's always some rats in the barrel, 0:43:38.560 --> 0:43:41.200 and the rats in the barrel are Curly and Isaac, 0:43:41.239 --> 0:43:44.400 who are like, actually, we love this, we love and 0:43:44.600 --> 0:43:49.439 to be fair to them, you know, it's not hard 0:43:49.440 --> 0:43:52.960 to imagine in this world coming from a life situation 0:43:53.080 --> 0:43:57.520 where you think this is pretty good. I lots of 0:43:57.520 --> 0:43:58.759 resources earn. 0:43:59.320 --> 0:44:03.719 Yeah, and if you think about the economics of the 0:44:03.800 --> 0:44:06.560 show that we've learned so far in the world, you know, 0:44:06.840 --> 0:44:09.760 for all we know the reason these kids are terminally 0:44:09.760 --> 0:44:12.520 ill is because they were sold into mining when they 0:44:12.520 --> 0:44:15.279 were little kids and they've never been able. Yeah, we 0:44:15.400 --> 0:44:19.120 have no idea, so they could really also imagine, aside 0:44:19.120 --> 0:44:23.000 from just the capitalist exploitation aspect, which is quite likely, 0:44:23.200 --> 0:44:26.000 there's also just like you could come from an abusive home, 0:44:26.160 --> 0:44:29.759 you could come from He's never there, So I think 0:44:29.800 --> 0:44:32.000 it's normal. I think it makes a lot of sense, 0:44:32.040 --> 0:44:34.440 and I think this is a good I'm glad they 0:44:34.520 --> 0:44:36.640 did this me too, because I was also going to say, 0:44:36.640 --> 0:44:38.879 I think this is a good understanding of Holly from 0:44:38.880 --> 0:44:42.040 Holly of how a character like Curly works, which is 0:44:42.080 --> 0:44:45.280 like you have to understand their own motivations and everything, 0:44:45.320 --> 0:44:47.680 and he's doing a great job of slowly peeling that back. 0:44:48.040 --> 0:44:51.120 I also think this episode for people who weren't necessarily 0:44:51.160 --> 0:44:54.759 into the kid leads of it all. I think this 0:44:54.840 --> 0:44:57.839 episode starts adding in the ring calls that make it 0:44:57.960 --> 0:45:01.480 way more interesting than if it were just some adults, 0:45:01.560 --> 0:45:04.840 since I think like the fear aspects, how easily the 0:45:04.880 --> 0:45:09.360 kids can be manipulated, the kind of early concept and 0:45:09.480 --> 0:45:12.400 passion of like, well, imagine if we were all in 0:45:12.440 --> 0:45:15.160 this together, like maybe we could change something. There's a 0:45:15.160 --> 0:45:17.880 lot of stuff that wouldn't necessarily work if they were 0:45:17.960 --> 0:45:21.080 fully aged adults, And I think that is what's really 0:45:21.120 --> 0:45:25.080 smart here is that Morally has essentially introduced us to 0:45:25.200 --> 0:45:28.680 characters who learn as we learn, and that is a 0:45:28.680 --> 0:45:30.799 good way of getting exposition in. But it's also a 0:45:30.800 --> 0:45:34.600 good way of making this feel very different from any 0:45:34.640 --> 0:45:36.120 other alien project. 0:45:36.960 --> 0:45:39.759 So Curly and Isaac are basically like, well, we kind 0:45:39.760 --> 0:45:41.760 of like everything the way it is, like we're. 0:45:42.480 --> 0:45:44.840 I like living on this tropical island and being immortal. 0:45:47.800 --> 0:45:50.160 You know, it's kind of put off by the awkwardness 0:45:50.160 --> 0:45:51.759 intention She's like, I'm going to go to the lab, 0:45:51.840 --> 0:45:55.600 so she heads off Joe. We get some snippets of scenes. 0:45:55.680 --> 0:45:58.400 Joe inspects his lung scar and is like, you know, 0:46:00.360 --> 0:46:03.319 multi thousand dollars piece of property, prodigy property in my 0:46:03.440 --> 0:46:08.279 chest now rash outside his apartment, like watches him through 0:46:08.280 --> 0:46:11.000 the window. Very I don't know what this is about, 0:46:11.040 --> 0:46:16.400 but yes, it's clearly he's maybe, I think is really. 0:46:16.239 --> 0:46:19.440 Going to say because he knows they're in danger and 0:46:19.480 --> 0:46:22.040 he's kind of thinking, well, I mean, my read here 0:46:22.160 --> 0:46:28.360 was like, is is this somebody that he is like, Okay, 0:46:28.360 --> 0:46:30.480 this is a human who if I get them to 0:46:31.320 --> 0:46:36.640 get chest busted? Yes, he want in trouble exactly. Nobody's 0:46:36.640 --> 0:46:38.360 gonna care if I get rid of this guy. I 0:46:38.360 --> 0:46:40.120 think Wendys who cas. 0:46:39.960 --> 0:46:42.400 I think there's two things. It's like, well, it's not fair. 0:46:43.640 --> 0:46:46.600 Wendy's brother is here. He shouldn't be here because nobody 0:46:46.600 --> 0:46:49.400 else gets to have one, and I need a human, 0:46:49.600 --> 0:46:52.480 so why not him. I don't like him anyway, just 0:46:52.520 --> 0:46:54.680 what he stands for, not necessarily as a person, So 0:46:54.719 --> 0:47:01.399 it makes you can see the logic. Wendy goes down 0:47:01.440 --> 0:47:04.920 to the baby alien growing in his brother's law and 0:47:04.960 --> 0:47:07.080 her brother's lung and she's trying to raise into it. 0:47:07.120 --> 0:47:10.960 She's trying to talk to it. Kersh is watching this. 0:47:11.680 --> 0:47:14.239 The alien bursts out of the little lung and then 0:47:14.320 --> 0:47:16.880 bursts out of the glass and now was running around, 0:47:17.480 --> 0:47:20.040 and Wendy goes to it and like communes with it, 0:47:20.080 --> 0:47:22.799 and they pets it. She's paying and talks to it, 0:47:24.480 --> 0:47:29.040 and Cursh is like, holy shit, this is so crazy. 0:47:29.080 --> 0:47:31.959 And then we get a I don't know what they're 0:47:32.000 --> 0:47:34.080 going to do in the broadcast. In our screener version, 0:47:34.080 --> 0:47:37.120 they're use they used Jane's addiction ocean sizes. 0:47:37.239 --> 0:47:40.760 Yeah, the breaking definitely, It's unclear that we are getting 0:47:40.760 --> 0:47:45.160 the same finished versions, but uh yeah, I just love 0:47:45.280 --> 0:47:48.040 this moment so much. I think this is kind of 0:47:48.080 --> 0:47:52.600 that big halfway point, you know, where Hawley is telling 0:47:52.680 --> 0:47:55.560 us like, hey, you thought this was going somewhere, Well 0:47:55.600 --> 0:47:58.719 it's going somewhere else. And I think that you can 0:47:58.840 --> 0:48:03.480 hint that the reason and that maybe Prodigy doesn't exist 0:48:04.040 --> 0:48:07.000 at when we hit Alien in two years is maybe 0:48:07.040 --> 0:48:09.880 because the Lost Boys and the Aliens are going to unionize, 0:48:10.560 --> 0:48:12.120 I mean unionize this enomop. 0:48:12.960 --> 0:48:15.920 Let me ask you this, what happens to an alien 0:48:16.080 --> 0:48:21.560 that is grown out of in part the genetic material 0:48:21.640 --> 0:48:23.840 of a human who is still alive. 0:48:24.800 --> 0:48:26.840 That's what I'm thinking, Like, is are they going to 0:48:26.920 --> 0:48:29.960 have a connection essentially going to. 0:48:30.000 --> 0:48:32.919 Be like a pet? Yeah? Not it, well not a pet, 0:48:33.000 --> 0:48:35.399 but like because they're too smart obviously to be pets. 0:48:35.440 --> 0:48:38.879 But like, will it read Joe as one of its own? 0:48:39.440 --> 0:48:42.879 Exactly? Will it be something that Joe and Wendy can 0:48:42.920 --> 0:48:46.080 have at their side as they go towards this battle. 0:48:46.200 --> 0:48:48.960 I will be interested to see, because if Wendy can 0:48:49.040 --> 0:48:56.240 essentially raise the baby, then that becomes a whole different situation. 0:48:56.480 --> 0:48:59.400 Like are we going to have like Wendy like riding 0:48:59.440 --> 0:49:01.480 a crazy If I would love it, I don't think 0:49:01.520 --> 0:49:03.560 the fans would love it, So let's I just think that. 0:49:03.719 --> 0:49:05.799 But you know what, I just want to see how 0:49:05.840 --> 0:49:09.960 this familial connection with the alien is gonna happen, because 0:49:10.000 --> 0:49:13.960 it seems to be very important. It also is directly 0:49:14.120 --> 0:49:19.560 outside of any of boy Wonder Boy Cavaliers kind of dreams, 0:49:20.200 --> 0:49:23.000 because all he can see things through is this mindset 0:49:23.080 --> 0:49:26.920 of Peter Pan Right, So you know is the okay, 0:49:26.920 --> 0:49:31.880 wait a minute, I'm gonna tell you so is the 0:49:31.920 --> 0:49:37.400 will the xenomorph essentially become like a protector for the kids, 0:49:37.440 --> 0:49:41.080 like the dog is in Peter Pan, Like I'm I'm 0:49:41.160 --> 0:49:44.759 very interested in in whether or not Hawley's gonna go 0:49:44.840 --> 0:49:47.120 all in on it, or whether once Wendy kind of 0:49:47.160 --> 0:49:51.680 gets her agency, Boy Genius just starts to realize that 0:49:52.160 --> 0:49:55.240 everything he's thinking about was stupid and he didn't understand 0:49:55.280 --> 0:49:57.879 the book, you know, Like I'm interested to see I. 0:49:57.760 --> 0:49:59.680 Think we're gonna go. I think we are headed to 0:49:59.680 --> 0:50:05.320 a play place where the robots and the aliens fight 0:50:05.560 --> 0:50:09.200 on the same side. I think Holly's done too much 0:50:09.239 --> 0:50:12.319 work getting is to empathize with the aliens to be 0:50:12.400 --> 0:50:15.840 nothing right, yeah, or for them to get or for 0:50:15.920 --> 0:50:19.560 them suddenly to flip to being the bad guys and 0:50:19.600 --> 0:50:21.680 we have to wipe them out. And we've done too 0:50:21.760 --> 0:50:25.960 much good work building up Boy Genius as like really 0:50:26.040 --> 0:50:27.360 someone we want to see die. 0:50:27.840 --> 0:50:30.080 Yeah, I'm so excited to see him die, and I'm 0:50:30.120 --> 0:50:32.640 so excited to learn when he's going to die too, 0:50:32.760 --> 0:50:35.799 because a lot could happen on that island even with 0:50:35.880 --> 0:50:40.080 him dead. So, yeah, how are you feeling about Episode Alien? 0:50:40.120 --> 0:50:41.080 Half halfway through. 0:50:40.920 --> 0:50:44.560 The set getting better and better? I think it started 0:50:44.640 --> 0:50:46.920 very strong and it's only gotten better since then this 0:50:47.040 --> 0:50:51.040 is this episode has so many like things to think 0:50:51.040 --> 0:50:56.239 about and is just so well done. I mean, I 0:50:56.239 --> 0:51:01.960 think some of the acting by Toodles now Isaac by Curly, 0:51:02.200 --> 0:51:06.440 like the the little conversation when they when Joe is 0:51:06.520 --> 0:51:10.360 talking about, oh, here's the five corporations and like Isaac 0:51:10.480 --> 0:51:12.240 is like trying to name them at the same time, 0:51:12.360 --> 0:51:13.719 Like that's such a kid thing to do. 0:51:13.880 --> 0:51:15.000 And That's what I'm saying. 0:51:15.120 --> 0:51:16.920 Like the way they's feel good. 0:51:17.520 --> 0:51:20.759 These actors bring to life the kid aspect, I think 0:51:20.880 --> 0:51:22.759 is one of the strongest things about the show, and 0:51:22.800 --> 0:51:24.520 I think it's one of the things people were most 0:51:24.560 --> 0:51:27.239 worried about when it was introduced. But I think it 0:51:27.480 --> 0:51:30.680 allows us to have character dynamics and character interactions that 0:51:30.680 --> 0:51:33.239 we would never usually get in like an rated sci 0:51:33.239 --> 0:51:36.680 fi show without it's kind of like an homage to 0:51:36.800 --> 0:51:40.120 a character like Newt but without going full t to 0:51:40.840 --> 0:51:43.399 Now you have a kid's sidekick, and I think they're 0:51:43.400 --> 0:51:48.239 doing something really interesting with it. I am so interested 0:51:48.360 --> 0:51:56.680 to see where the Cush kind of sides with the hybrids, 0:51:56.840 --> 0:51:59.960 or sides with Prodigy, or does more of a kind 0:52:00.040 --> 0:52:04.960 kind of David's style thing where he just he thinks 0:52:05.000 --> 0:52:08.000 he's not like interacting, but really he's doing little bits 0:52:08.000 --> 0:52:13.040 of machinations. It's really it's classic alien stuff, and I'm 0:52:13.120 --> 0:52:13.680 loving it. 0:52:13.800 --> 0:52:18.919 My sense is much like the current show Foundation, which 0:52:18.960 --> 0:52:21.120 is like in season three. I think, I think that 0:52:21.480 --> 0:52:24.759 Kersh is looking for a loophole. Like you said, I 0:52:24.760 --> 0:52:27.839 think the reason he's not dropping he's immediately cutting off 0:52:27.880 --> 0:52:32.080 the Morrow conversation is because he's been given a very 0:52:32.239 --> 0:52:36.719 clear task to study the aliens. Morrow has information about 0:52:36.719 --> 0:52:38.920 the aliens as the head of security of that ship, 0:52:38.960 --> 0:52:42.560 and as someone who has been in space with those 0:52:42.600 --> 0:52:46.400 creatures for decades knows a lot about them. Therefore, it 0:52:46.480 --> 0:52:52.239 is within his responsibilities to allow this communication to go 0:52:52.280 --> 0:52:54.440 forward so that he can get more information about the aliens. 0:52:54.760 --> 0:52:59.239 And I think similarly, he is looking for other loopholes 0:52:59.400 --> 0:53:04.080 like that so that he can break free of Boy Cavalier. 0:53:04.160 --> 0:53:07.000 And I think again, I think that conversation that he 0:53:07.160 --> 0:53:10.719 had with Slightly about like what are you going to do? 0:53:11.320 --> 0:53:14.200 Who you're going to side with? Is about siding with 0:53:14.640 --> 0:53:18.480 his kind, with the synthetic kind, against the people who are. 0:53:18.880 --> 0:53:24.040 Which you're crushing them. That trajectory is like very much 0:53:24.239 --> 0:53:28.439 on the same route as we have seen with other 0:53:28.640 --> 0:53:33.839 kind of alien synths in the series where they do 0:53:33.920 --> 0:53:37.120 work for the corporation, but they also usually have their 0:53:37.160 --> 0:53:40.840 own agenda, whether it's something from Whalen himself or whether 0:53:40.880 --> 0:53:44.520 it's like when David became obsessed with the creatures and 0:53:44.560 --> 0:53:47.480 the Doo, so he started to kind of create spaces 0:53:47.480 --> 0:53:50.680 to see what would happen with the creatures, which obviously 0:53:50.800 --> 0:53:52.600 led us to where we are in this. So yeah, 0:53:52.640 --> 0:53:57.759 I just find it a very intriguing set up that 0:53:57.880 --> 0:54:01.000 I think for the second half of the season is 0:54:02.320 --> 0:54:06.960 gonna turn into a cool like potential you know, hybrid 0:54:07.080 --> 0:54:12.319 synthetic uprising, which if you think about it, would be 0:54:12.760 --> 0:54:16.239 an instant reason why Prodigy could just not exist. They 0:54:16.280 --> 0:54:18.400 just get bought up by Waylam because he couldn't control 0:54:18.440 --> 0:54:21.000 the things he created, you know, Like it seems like 0:54:21.600 --> 0:54:24.479 that wouldn't be a hard thing to explain and gives 0:54:24.480 --> 0:54:26.480 a reason for why we would never have heard of them. 0:54:26.480 --> 0:54:28.800 But maybe it's gonna be way worse. Maybe the Aliens 0:54:28.800 --> 0:54:34.080 will actually overrun New Siam. I'm just I'm very excited 0:54:34.080 --> 0:54:36.200 to be watching a show where I really really don't 0:54:36.239 --> 0:54:38.360 have a handle on what is gonna happen next. 0:54:40.120 --> 0:54:42.160 Well. In the next episode of extra Vision, we're diving 0:54:42.200 --> 0:54:44.480 into the biggest stories and streaming, including the arrival of 0:54:44.520 --> 0:54:48.200 Marvel's Thunderwolt's Asterisk on Disney Plus and the arrival of 0:54:48.239 --> 0:54:51.960 Superman oh on VOD that's been for this episode. Thanks 0:54:52.000 --> 0:54:57.680 for listening by x Ray. 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