WEBVTT - Jonathan Lipnicki Meets World 0:00:18.800 --> 0:00:20.720 At some point during this holiday season. 0:00:20.720 --> 0:00:23.480 I've completely lost track of time, so I believe it 0:00:23.560 --> 0:00:26.400 was before New Year's after. 0:00:26.200 --> 0:00:30.320 Christmas, okay, okay, So I went to the Queen Mary. 0:00:30.600 --> 0:00:33.519 Okay, yeah, oh right, which is the second time I've 0:00:33.560 --> 0:00:35.240 been to the Queen Mary in the last few months. 0:00:35.280 --> 0:00:37.040 Because I went down there, they did this, they do 0:00:37.120 --> 0:00:41.440 a Halloween Dark Harbor thing with like haunted mazes and stuff. 0:00:41.440 --> 0:00:44.320 In India was obsessed with mases this holiday season, so 0:00:44.360 --> 0:00:46.319 we went to all of the ones in LA and we. 0:00:46.280 --> 0:00:46.959 Went down to that one. 0:00:47.000 --> 0:00:49.000 It was so much fun and we actually slept on 0:00:49.040 --> 0:00:51.160 the Queen Mary for the night, and so we decided 0:00:51.159 --> 0:00:53.160 to do it again with family in from out of town. 0:00:53.360 --> 0:00:55.080 We were like, let's go to the Queen Mary. And 0:00:55.760 --> 0:00:58.840 you guys, you have to the two of you have 0:00:58.880 --> 0:00:59.640 to go to the Queen Mary. 0:00:59.680 --> 0:01:01.160 For I never go back to the Queen Mary. 0:01:01.200 --> 0:01:04.000 Now what No, no, oh, you have a Queen Marry story. 0:01:04.680 --> 0:01:06.880 I have too many, too many. 0:01:06.520 --> 0:01:10.320 Because they have the greatest buffet in the history of 0:01:10.360 --> 0:01:14.720 the world. So like, we stayed the night and then 0:01:14.800 --> 0:01:17.119 and Alex kept being like no, no, no, no, the buffet 0:01:17.160 --> 0:01:17.399 and I. 0:01:17.360 --> 0:01:19.080 Was like, yeah, okay, the buffet whatever you know, I don't. 0:01:19.160 --> 0:01:20.480 I'm not like a buffet person. 0:01:20.840 --> 0:01:26.199 How are you not? As anybody? I don't eat enough either? 0:01:26.319 --> 0:01:29.119 Do you need see? 0:01:29.160 --> 0:01:31.280 Like yeah, Like my brother in law was like he's 0:01:31.280 --> 0:01:33.240 made for a buffet, like this is just his you know, 0:01:33.400 --> 0:01:35.720 like most of my in laws, like they're just like yes, 0:01:35.920 --> 0:01:38.679 bring on, like all the options, and I'm like the 0:01:38.720 --> 0:01:40.240 most boring, especially when. 0:01:40.160 --> 0:01:42.720 It comes to breakfast. It's like the most boring breakfast. 0:01:42.920 --> 0:01:45.240 I like, the idea of toast is just as exciting 0:01:45.560 --> 0:01:48.200 as a waffle that's been handmade in front of me 0:01:48.280 --> 0:01:50.720 with I don't care about anyway. 0:01:50.640 --> 0:01:51.400 This was beautiful. 0:01:51.440 --> 0:01:53.160 This was by far the best buffet I've ever seen, 0:01:53.280 --> 0:01:56.920 and outside of a cruise ship especially, so you guys, 0:01:57.080 --> 0:01:59.160 maybe we should just go down and do an episode 0:01:59.160 --> 0:02:00.440 from the buffet of the Queen Mary. 0:02:00.480 --> 0:02:02.160 Anyway, it's in this giant I will be. 0:02:02.680 --> 0:02:06.160 That's fine because to be eating the whole time. 0:02:07.120 --> 0:02:08.880 Seriously, I tell you, every time we're in Vegas, every 0:02:08.880 --> 0:02:10.280 time I hit a buffet, it's where I make all 0:02:10.280 --> 0:02:10.839 my money back. 0:02:11.000 --> 0:02:13.200 It turns out because you know, Alex was selling me 0:02:13.240 --> 0:02:13.480 on this. 0:02:13.560 --> 0:02:16.480 It's like ranked in world buffets as like one of 0:02:16.480 --> 0:02:18.160 the best and they do it on the weekends and 0:02:18.160 --> 0:02:21.120 you're on the boat in this like old ballroom, and 0:02:21.120 --> 0:02:24.200 that's the thing. But like what I realized about cruise ships, 0:02:24.240 --> 0:02:26.720 like because when I walked into the Queen Mary, I 0:02:26.800 --> 0:02:29.480 was like, well, if cruise ships looked like this, I'd 0:02:29.520 --> 0:02:32.960 be into it because it's that old school nineteen thirties 0:02:33.000 --> 0:02:34.520 like art deco signage. 0:02:34.720 --> 0:02:37.960 You want to be on the Titanic, Yeah, exactly, Yeah, 0:02:38.000 --> 0:02:39.560 I want old cruise. 0:02:39.639 --> 0:02:41.520 Like the fact that cruise ships are like all made 0:02:41.520 --> 0:02:44.440 to look vegacy and nice and new is like so 0:02:44.600 --> 0:02:45.400 uninteresting to me. 0:02:45.440 --> 0:02:46.079 Whereas if you. 0:02:46.080 --> 0:02:48.720 Go in like an old classy boat where you like 0:02:48.760 --> 0:02:50.720 and people dress in top hats. 0:02:50.600 --> 0:02:52.799 Yes I'm in if some did. 0:02:52.919 --> 0:02:57.480 Others died in steerage, so if you were a top 0:02:57.520 --> 0:02:59.000 at guy, it was a great. 0:02:59.040 --> 0:03:01.119 Okay, I don't want to be on the actual Titanic, 0:03:01.560 --> 0:03:03.960 but if they could take the ship the style of 0:03:04.000 --> 0:03:07.840 the Titanic and make a cruise that's that style, that's like, hey. 0:03:07.680 --> 0:03:10.200 We don't have any of those. There's gotta be like 0:03:10.200 --> 0:03:12.400 a thirty. That's what I keep saying too, That's what 0:03:12.480 --> 0:03:13.239 I keeping like. 0:03:13.280 --> 0:03:14.239 The Queen Mary's retired. 0:03:14.280 --> 0:03:16.600 It's just a hotel now, which is cool and like, 0:03:17.240 --> 0:03:19.760 but yeah, and it's all it's preserved in this old 0:03:19.800 --> 0:03:23.200 school style. No, I think they're chasing trends, like they're 0:03:23.200 --> 0:03:26.280 constantly trying to make cruise ships new or like exciting 0:03:26.320 --> 0:03:28.320 and have all the features. But I would be down 0:03:28.400 --> 0:03:31.600 for like we're just taking like an old classy boat 0:03:31.880 --> 0:03:34.280 and we're giving you a classic old school like. 0:03:34.560 --> 0:03:38.000 You know, tour. Like I'd be so into that. Anyway, 0:03:38.400 --> 0:03:38.920 I told. 0:03:38.760 --> 0:03:43.560 You my grandparents that was their honeymoon, a cruise on 0:03:43.640 --> 0:03:46.480 the Queen Mary. Yes, on the last voyage the Queen 0:03:46.480 --> 0:03:50.280 Mary t before it docked. And so my grandfather, who 0:03:50.280 --> 0:03:55.280 never threw away anything, we exactly my grandfather and Wilfred 0:03:55.280 --> 0:04:00.680 Dell were very much the same person. Had an a 0:04:00.800 --> 0:04:04.200 digital image that was originally like you know, a film 0:04:04.200 --> 0:04:06.839 picture that he scanned because my grandfather was very technologically 0:04:06.880 --> 0:04:08.480 savvy all the way until he was ninety nine and 0:04:08.480 --> 0:04:12.480 a half, and it was of his luggage tack that 0:04:13.200 --> 0:04:16.840 and so I knew what room he stayed in. So 0:04:17.000 --> 0:04:19.880 I was able to go to the Queen Mary and 0:04:19.960 --> 0:04:23.280 they have on display the ship has since like the 0:04:23.360 --> 0:04:26.960 rooms have been renovated obviously since nineteen fifty two, but 0:04:27.360 --> 0:04:29.760 based on the maps of the ship, I was able 0:04:29.800 --> 0:04:33.240 to find where his room would have been on the 0:04:33.279 --> 0:04:36.240 ship and then asked someone if they could take me 0:04:36.320 --> 0:04:38.000 to that area, and I was actually able to stand 0:04:38.080 --> 0:04:39.839 in the room that at one point in time would 0:04:39.880 --> 0:04:43.640 have been my grandfather's whole room, which is. 0:04:43.760 --> 0:04:47.240 Very, very sweet, very awesome. Writer. There's a there's a 0:04:47.560 --> 0:04:49.680 fat So we're talking the meat station. 0:04:50.160 --> 0:04:54.159 Yep, different station, different countries. So you have like an 0:04:54.200 --> 0:04:56.919 Italian section, you have a Mexican section. Yeah, this is 0:04:56.960 --> 0:05:01.039 like the wind Vision section. They had sushi like it 0:05:01.120 --> 0:05:05.360 was insane, like for breakfast. Oh yeah, brunch technically, so 0:05:05.480 --> 0:05:09.400 if it's later. But I definitely hit the sushi, like, oh, 0:05:09.880 --> 0:05:10.560 it was so good. 0:05:10.960 --> 0:05:13.360 I don't like buffet sushi. It's too cold. 0:05:13.760 --> 0:05:14.120 But hold on. 0:05:15.680 --> 0:05:17.080 You just told a story that was. 0:05:19.320 --> 0:05:20.160 The Queen Mary. Oh. 0:05:20.200 --> 0:05:22.239 I love that story about the Queen Mary. I also 0:05:22.360 --> 0:05:25.000 shot a horrible movie I refused to talk about on 0:05:25.160 --> 0:05:27.839 the Queen Mary and was trapped on it. 0:05:27.920 --> 0:05:31.200 GameCube or whatever, the one we're supposed to we'll talk 0:05:31.240 --> 0:05:31.600 about that. 0:05:32.839 --> 0:05:34.360 You're not going to talk about the one. 0:05:34.480 --> 0:05:36.320 Not going to talk about it? 0:05:36.400 --> 0:05:38.840 Is dorm does okay? 0:05:38.920 --> 0:05:40.840 Okay, it took place on the Queen Mary. I mean 0:05:40.839 --> 0:05:42.480 it wasn't. We weren't supposed to be on the Queen Mary. 0:05:42.480 --> 0:05:44.200 We were like on a ship. On a ship. 0:05:44.279 --> 0:05:45.280 Were you supposed to be at sea? 0:05:46.240 --> 0:05:47.719 I don't remember easing. I remember it's. 0:05:47.600 --> 0:05:49.839 Called dorm Days, but it doesn't take place in a dorm. 0:05:50.120 --> 0:05:51.520 It was supposed to be a dorm. It was supposed 0:05:51.520 --> 0:05:53.400 to be dorm rooms, but I don't remember if we 0:05:53.480 --> 0:05:55.760 used room. Were supposed to also be on the ship. Yeah, 0:05:55.760 --> 0:05:58.880 we were also listen. I don't remember did you cannot? 0:05:59.160 --> 0:06:00.120 Did you read I? 0:06:00.160 --> 0:06:01.320 Did I read this copect? 0:06:01.960 --> 0:06:02.400 I read it. 0:06:03.360 --> 0:06:06.240 I don't remember a single thing about it except there 0:06:06.240 --> 0:06:08.839 was a monkey. I worked with a monkey, of course, 0:06:08.880 --> 0:06:10.760 and the monkey attacked and it was very scary. It 0:06:10.800 --> 0:06:12.440 like ran up my dress and I was like, oh, 0:06:12.480 --> 0:06:15.080 so it wasn't supposed to attack, no, no, no, but 0:06:15.160 --> 0:06:16.880 I had to. So you know, the monkeys like they're 0:06:16.920 --> 0:06:18.920 on set and it's like, please don't look at the monkeys. 0:06:19.360 --> 0:06:22.599 The monkeys could attack at any time, and it's like, okay, 0:06:22.640 --> 0:06:25.160 we It was literally like the biggest star in the 0:06:25.200 --> 0:06:28.600 world was coming on. You do not make eye contact 0:06:28.680 --> 0:06:31.400 with the monkeys. Here are the rules. If you have 0:06:31.520 --> 0:06:33.960 to work with the monkey, then you can be close 0:06:34.000 --> 0:06:37.560 to the monkey. Please do not make any sudden movements. 0:06:37.160 --> 0:06:37.799 Around the monkey. 0:06:37.960 --> 0:06:40.320 You got that rule Number three was the monkey loves 0:06:40.360 --> 0:06:41.640 to panga exactly. 0:06:42.279 --> 0:06:43.880 They took one look at you and was like. 0:06:43.920 --> 0:06:46.200 God, do you remember when had the same rules when 0:06:46.240 --> 0:06:47.200 the monkeys were on our show. 0:06:47.200 --> 0:06:49.359 It's like Mokey Dolan's directly in the eyes. 0:06:50.440 --> 0:06:52.920 No, no big movements around Peter Tork, we had all 0:06:52.920 --> 0:06:54.000 that same kind of stuff. 0:06:55.000 --> 0:06:57.960 The problem was my scene with the monkey. So what 0:06:58.000 --> 0:07:00.360 I do remember from because of the monkey is that 0:07:00.480 --> 0:07:03.160 there was a there's a jewel in the movie, like, 0:07:03.279 --> 0:07:05.240 and we're all trying to get this gem or this 0:07:05.360 --> 0:07:09.320 jewel or something a dorm or maybe we're not supposed 0:07:09.320 --> 0:07:11.240 to be honest, I don't know. 0:07:12.120 --> 0:07:15.200 I want Danielle to read the script for the first time, 0:07:15.320 --> 0:07:17.480 so we don't understand the movie this. 0:07:17.360 --> 0:07:19.000 Point, the crayon has washed away. 0:07:19.240 --> 0:07:21.000 Yeah, So. 0:07:22.560 --> 0:07:25.120 The problem was at some point the monkey gets the 0:07:25.240 --> 0:07:28.360 jewel and I am trying to get the jewel. So 0:07:28.760 --> 0:07:31.160 in the scene, the monkey comes flying around the corner 0:07:31.200 --> 0:07:32.960 and I come face to face with the monkey. The 0:07:32.960 --> 0:07:34.520 monkey turns and runs away from me, and I have 0:07:34.600 --> 0:07:37.840 to lunge after the monkey. And so it's like, wait 0:07:37.840 --> 0:07:40.000 a minute, what do you mean, no sudden route? What 0:07:40.040 --> 0:07:43.200 do you mean no sudden moves around the monkey? 0:07:43.440 --> 0:07:43.600 Right? 0:07:43.840 --> 0:07:46.400 I have to lunge at the monkey. So they were like, 0:07:46.440 --> 0:07:48.960 so we're just gonna make sure that you know the 0:07:49.200 --> 0:07:52.640 get the Let the monkey get this far before you 0:07:52.720 --> 0:07:56.280 do the lunge, and you know, magic of film, it'll 0:07:56.280 --> 0:07:58.160 look like you're still close. And I was like, okay, 0:07:58.360 --> 0:08:00.400 so I wait till I see the monkey. He hit 0:08:00.520 --> 0:08:03.640 the mark and then I lunch it was not far enough. 0:08:03.760 --> 0:08:07.600 The monkey still spun around and was then furious at 0:08:07.640 --> 0:08:08.480 me and. 0:08:08.440 --> 0:08:11.360 You're lunching at it, yeah, and charged. 0:08:10.920 --> 0:08:14.280 At me and I had to get up really fast, 0:08:14.400 --> 0:08:17.040 and the monkey like ran up into what I was wearing, 0:08:17.080 --> 0:08:19.200 which I seem to remember being a dress similar to 0:08:19.200 --> 0:08:20.720 a wedding dress. But I have no idea why I 0:08:20.760 --> 0:08:22.440 was in a wedding dress. And I don't remember being 0:08:22.440 --> 0:08:24.400 in a wedding dress. Maybe you're on a boat in 0:08:24.520 --> 0:08:25.040 dorm days. 0:08:25.080 --> 0:08:27.600 It was dorm. It's your honeymoon, it's honey. 0:08:30.960 --> 0:08:31.320 Exactly. 0:08:32.440 --> 0:08:36.200 Anyway, I I literally every time I other than my grandfather, 0:08:36.280 --> 0:08:37.840 which is why I tell that story all the time. 0:08:37.960 --> 0:08:42.600 Anytime I think of the Queen Mary, I have literal PTSD. 0:08:43.000 --> 0:08:47.360 I have PTSD chills of that. It's not even it's 0:08:47.400 --> 0:08:49.720 not even that, it's just the movie. The movie. I 0:08:49.760 --> 0:08:51.640 get literal shutters. 0:08:51.679 --> 0:08:56.040 Oh man, I'm sorry, sorry to hear that. But there's 0:08:56.040 --> 0:08:56.840 an omelet station. 0:08:57.000 --> 0:08:59.080 I know. Did they have donuts? 0:09:00.440 --> 0:09:02.480 No, but they had some incredible pastry desserts. 0:09:02.760 --> 0:09:05.680 Say, he's gotta be some baked goods and Banana Foster's. 0:09:06.000 --> 0:09:08.400 Oh like yeah, with ice cream. 0:09:09.320 --> 0:09:12.560 Isn't it called Banana's Foster, not Banana Foster's. 0:09:12.720 --> 0:09:16.160 Yeah, okay, r bananas Foster. 0:09:16.960 --> 0:09:22.800 Yeah, passers by, okay, Attorneys General, Attorney's General. 0:09:22.800 --> 0:09:23.240 There you go. 0:09:23.400 --> 0:09:29.000 Yeah, I before E is so, doctor C got it. 0:09:31.040 --> 0:09:32.280 Welcome to Pod Meets World. 0:09:32.320 --> 0:09:35.120 I'm Daniel Fishel, I'm right or strong, and I'm Will's Fredell. 0:09:41.320 --> 0:09:41.840 That's good. 0:09:55.840 --> 0:09:58.199 In twenty twenty six, it's hard to believe, but at 0:09:58.200 --> 0:10:00.760 one point in time, there was some we have talked 0:10:00.760 --> 0:10:05.080 about a lot, which is monoculture. It's defined as a 0:10:05.120 --> 0:10:08.200 time or environment where most people are consuming the same 0:10:08.280 --> 0:10:12.280 media and cultural experiences. Watching the same shows, listening to 0:10:12.320 --> 0:10:16.000 the same music, reacting to the same big pop culture moments. 0:10:16.360 --> 0:10:19.680 So there's a shared conversation. And for some reason, it 0:10:19.760 --> 0:10:23.720 was imagined around a water cooler. Now in a wasteland 0:10:23.760 --> 0:10:27.360 where media comes and goes, celebrity is fleeting, and kids 0:10:27.400 --> 0:10:30.200 get famous for dressing like the Loraxe and dancing on 0:10:30.240 --> 0:10:33.960 TikTok and and Arby's. Well, let's just say, is that 0:10:34.000 --> 0:10:36.920 a real thing? I'm gonna say yes. I don't know it, 0:10:36.960 --> 0:10:37.800 but I'm gonna go. 0:10:37.720 --> 0:10:38.680 With yes, Nike. 0:10:40.120 --> 0:10:43.440 Let's just say things are a little more fragmented. But 0:10:43.480 --> 0:10:46.520 today's guest is proof that the nineties was a campfire 0:10:46.559 --> 0:10:50.160 of sorts, all of us joined together roasting marshmallows and 0:10:50.200 --> 0:10:54.480 reciting lines from the most adorable young actor of the decade. 0:10:54.520 --> 0:10:57.720 His first big job in movies was Get This, playing 0:10:57.800 --> 0:11:01.280 opposite Tom Cruise as cute as a button Ray boyd 0:11:01.400 --> 0:11:05.280 in Jerry Maguire, where his spiky hair, round glasses, and 0:11:05.360 --> 0:11:09.600 impulsive random facts made him a world renowned superstar overnight. 0:11:10.240 --> 0:11:13.600 Before the time Jonathan was ten, his films had grossed 0:11:13.720 --> 0:11:19.200 nearly three quarters of a billion dollars at the box office. 0:11:19.240 --> 0:11:23.800 His celebrity was rarefied air for child actors beyond anything 0:11:23.840 --> 0:11:27.600 an agent could ever promise or imagine when parents decide 0:11:27.600 --> 0:11:30.600 to let their kids act and he has the planet 0:11:30.640 --> 0:11:35.880 Hollywood Jackets to prove it. He'd also portray Justin Foxworthy, 0:11:36.000 --> 0:11:38.880 the son of Jeff on The Jeff Foxworthy Show, George 0:11:38.920 --> 0:11:42.480 Little in the blockbuster film Stuart Little, and Murph in 0:11:42.520 --> 0:11:46.880 the Lil Bow Wow Basketball Masterpiece. Like Mike, but like 0:11:46.960 --> 0:11:50.160 we've talked about endlessly on this show, when the spotlight 0:11:50.280 --> 0:11:53.280 is your job before you're even a teenager, things can 0:11:53.320 --> 0:11:57.400 get confusing. He's been honest and brave about his career since, 0:11:57.679 --> 0:12:00.160 but most recently he appeared on the newest season of 0:12:00.200 --> 0:12:03.440 The Joe Schmos Show and set to star in an 0:12:03.520 --> 0:12:09.480 upcoming thriller Williston alongside Matt Walsh and Geneva Carr. And yes, 0:12:09.920 --> 0:12:14.240 he also now holds a Brazilian Jiu jitsu black belt 0:12:14.640 --> 0:12:18.160 and has trained extensively in Mui Thai, So he has 0:12:18.200 --> 0:12:19.679 that in common with will. 0:12:19.600 --> 0:12:21.439 Yeah, very similar, very similar. 0:12:21.840 --> 0:12:24.959 So today he will sit with three other child actors 0:12:24.960 --> 0:12:28.440 who've been honest after their lives post Hollywood stardom, now 0:12:28.520 --> 0:12:33.240 on a less monocultural podcast called pod meets World. Welcome 0:12:33.280 --> 0:12:36.119 to the show, my pal, Jonathan Lipniki. 0:12:36.640 --> 0:12:40.520 Oh look at you. 0:12:41.800 --> 0:12:44.400 I was just saying in your intro that you have 0:12:44.760 --> 0:12:48.079 a black belt in jiu jitsu and have trained extensively 0:12:48.080 --> 0:12:50.400 in muey taie, and that's Will's dream. 0:12:50.880 --> 0:12:54.400 Yeah. I have a squeaky belt that barely holds up 0:12:54.440 --> 0:12:57.839 my pants, and I have a white belt in nine 0:12:57.840 --> 0:12:58.800 different disciplines. 0:12:58.920 --> 0:12:59.760 Thank you very much. 0:13:00.280 --> 0:13:02.640 Well, never too late to start, Never too late to start. 0:13:02.760 --> 0:13:03.720 Twenty twenty six. 0:13:04.000 --> 0:13:07.319 I actually I'm I'm actually going to with the people 0:13:07.360 --> 0:13:09.400 that train with the Lawrence Boys, who lives right down 0:13:09.400 --> 0:13:10.040 the street from us. 0:13:10.080 --> 0:13:12.440 So this year you're going to start doing martial arts. 0:13:12.480 --> 0:13:14.840 Yeah, I'm going to start Brazilian jiu jitsu this year, 0:13:14.960 --> 0:13:16.440 right God? 0:13:16.720 --> 0:13:18.240 So yeah, I'm that's exciting. 0:13:18.400 --> 0:13:20.680 Yeah, pretty excited. Okay, I get a white belt in 0:13:20.679 --> 0:13:21.040 that too. 0:13:21.360 --> 0:13:23.160 What do you start in Brazilian jujitsuary? 0:13:23.320 --> 0:13:24.440 Isn't it like all grappling? 0:13:25.320 --> 0:13:28.360 I think, yeah, it's all grappling. You know, there's gee 0:13:28.440 --> 0:13:31.000 and nogi. So gee is like the traditional kimono and 0:13:31.040 --> 0:13:34.480 nogi is like a rash guard in shorts. So you 0:13:34.480 --> 0:13:36.800 can do bold, you can focus on one. But generally 0:13:36.840 --> 0:13:39.320 to like progress spelt levels. You're doing both. 0:13:39.760 --> 0:13:44.400 Wow, that's so cool. Oh man, I didn't get a gee. 0:13:44.440 --> 0:13:49.640 I did start mixed martial arts karate, but I never 0:13:49.720 --> 0:13:52.800 I never made it to the to the part of testing, 0:13:52.880 --> 0:13:53.719 so I didn't get a G. 0:13:54.240 --> 0:13:56.160 Yeah. Never too late. 0:13:56.800 --> 0:13:57.640 Maybe this is my year. 0:13:57.679 --> 0:13:58.400 We'll have to do it. 0:13:58.480 --> 0:14:01.679 Yeah, I cook with g I like which is a 0:14:01.720 --> 0:14:03.679 clarified butter, which is which is magical? 0:14:03.800 --> 0:14:04.959 So yeah, but it's. 0:14:06.040 --> 0:14:08.600 We are so happy to see you, Jonathan. If nothing else, 0:14:08.640 --> 0:14:12.000 this podcast lets us sit down with one people that 0:14:12.040 --> 0:14:14.240 we love and don't get to see enough, and two 0:14:14.480 --> 0:14:16.520 people who get to open up about what being a 0:14:16.600 --> 0:14:21.240 child actor was really like. So your experience is like 0:14:21.680 --> 0:14:24.280 none other. So thank you for agreeing to hang out 0:14:24.320 --> 0:14:24.880 with us. 0:14:25.080 --> 0:14:28.400 Oh, thank you for having me. You know, love you guys, 0:14:28.480 --> 0:14:30.000 So it's an honor to be here. 0:14:30.760 --> 0:14:35.280 Let's talk about you starting to audition at five years old. 0:14:35.760 --> 0:14:38.160 I know, like a lot of us kid actors, you 0:14:38.200 --> 0:14:41.400 were a valley kid. Was it your idea to act? 0:14:41.480 --> 0:14:43.480 How did you express that to your parents? 0:14:44.120 --> 0:14:46.920 So it's really funny. Actually I never thought of it, 0:14:46.960 --> 0:14:51.320 even until my sister tried an acting class outt Gorah Hills, 0:14:51.840 --> 0:14:53.440 and I think it's like you always kind of want 0:14:53.440 --> 0:14:55.960 to do what your older sibling's doing. I know a 0:14:55.960 --> 0:14:59.120 lot of sibling relationships like that, and so I wanted 0:14:59.120 --> 0:15:02.920 to try it. And the acting teacher, you know, it's like, 0:15:02.960 --> 0:15:05.160 we don't generally take people this young, but he has 0:15:05.160 --> 0:15:07.880 a lot of charisma. Give it a try. Then, you know, 0:15:07.920 --> 0:15:12.240 from what I remember, we practiced auditions in class and 0:15:12.320 --> 0:15:13.840 I was like, you know, after doing that, I'm like, 0:15:13.840 --> 0:15:15.760 this is so fun. I told my parents I wanted 0:15:15.760 --> 0:15:20.920 to audition, and they were like nah, and they're like, no, 0:15:21.720 --> 0:15:23.320 I wanted to you like, stick with some sports. But 0:15:23.360 --> 0:15:25.440 I kept pushing and they were like, you know what, Look, 0:15:25.520 --> 0:15:27.480 he'll probably like do it a few times, and you 0:15:27.480 --> 0:15:29.840 know he'll get sick of all the driving and you know, 0:15:29.920 --> 0:15:34.000 get over it. But I started auditioning. I got an agent, 0:15:34.160 --> 0:15:37.600 and I looked like a few national commercials, and then 0:15:37.800 --> 0:15:38.880 then I got Jerry Maguire. 0:15:39.680 --> 0:15:43.800 I mean, to go from having not worked at all 0:15:44.080 --> 0:15:47.640 to booking national commercials, how long was it, like, how 0:15:47.680 --> 0:15:50.360 long were you auditioning before you booked Jerry Maguire. 0:15:51.120 --> 0:15:53.560 I have no clue, you know, a few months now, 0:15:53.640 --> 0:15:59.520 you know, I think, like probably late six months. I 0:15:59.600 --> 0:16:02.720 ad for Jerry McGuire and I didn't get it. They 0:16:02.760 --> 0:16:04.880 went with another kid. They shot two weeks with him, 0:16:06.120 --> 0:16:08.640 and they wouldn't they wouldn't see me when they were 0:16:08.640 --> 0:16:11.080 recasting it because I was on a list of people 0:16:11.160 --> 0:16:13.160 had already been seen, but I'd been seen by an associate, 0:16:13.240 --> 0:16:15.920 not the casting director. And I had an asient at 0:16:15.920 --> 0:16:19.920 the time, wonderful guy, and he was ahead of the 0:16:20.000 --> 0:16:22.360 children's talent division at this agency, and he said, don't 0:16:22.360 --> 0:16:25.080 see any of my other kids. I stake my reputation on, 0:16:25.320 --> 0:16:27.760 you know, in the industry on this. I have Ray 0:16:27.800 --> 0:16:30.280 BOYD sitting in my chair right now, Please see him. 0:16:30.800 --> 0:16:32.920 I was seen by the casting director and they're like, 0:16:33.640 --> 0:16:35.800 how would you like to fly out to Arizona tomorrow 0:16:35.800 --> 0:16:37.880 and meet Tom Cruise and read for him and Cameron 0:16:37.880 --> 0:16:42.840 Crow and Arizona where they're doing the football scenes. Read 0:16:42.920 --> 0:16:45.600 for Tom and Cameron. My parents were there, of course. 0:16:46.720 --> 0:16:49.680 In Tom's trailer. Tom we had really good chemistry and 0:16:49.760 --> 0:16:52.200 he's like, you know, I think my decision here is clear. 0:16:52.200 --> 0:16:55.840 I'll leave it up to Cameron. And that was it. 0:16:56.040 --> 0:16:58.280 Okay, hold on you, Okay, this is a tough question. 0:16:58.400 --> 0:16:59.200 I have a tough question. 0:17:00.120 --> 0:17:01.920 How much of this do you actually remember? 0:17:02.160 --> 0:17:04.399 And how much of this is like because you've been 0:17:04.440 --> 0:17:07.000 told these stories, do you think that you've like recreated 0:17:07.000 --> 0:17:08.960 the matter? Do you have like a visual memory of 0:17:09.000 --> 0:17:09.439 any of this? 0:17:10.119 --> 0:17:12.920 Uh? Yeah, So I we bought when we were in Arizona, 0:17:12.960 --> 0:17:16.439 we bought this Phoenix Sun's T shirt T shirt for me, 0:17:16.480 --> 0:17:20.359 and I remember that T shirt for sure. But like 0:17:20.520 --> 0:17:23.240 I remember like glimpses, like little images right being in 0:17:23.280 --> 0:17:25.639 the trailer. I had the sides for a long time 0:17:26.480 --> 0:17:29.159 that I used in that audition, So like it's like 0:17:29.240 --> 0:17:31.879 bits and pieces, and I feel like every year I 0:17:31.960 --> 0:17:34.960 get older, it's like more of a recreation. But that 0:17:34.960 --> 0:17:38.440 that's like the high level right there kind of how 0:17:38.440 --> 0:17:41.480 it went down. But you know, it's it's good having 0:17:41.520 --> 0:17:44.760 my parents there. They're very involved and you know they 0:17:44.800 --> 0:17:46.760 remember a lot more than I do. 0:17:47.840 --> 0:17:51.440 Unbelievable. And you so you were five at this time. 0:17:51.880 --> 0:17:55.080 Did the sides that you had were you reading? Like 0:17:55.200 --> 0:17:57.080 I For me, I have a six year old, a 0:17:57.119 --> 0:17:59.560 six and a half year old. He doesn't go more 0:17:59.600 --> 0:18:02.600 than three seconds without saying poop or But so I 0:18:02.760 --> 0:18:06.840 just like, I mean, it's unbelievable to me that at five, 0:18:07.160 --> 0:18:09.800 You're like, I had some signs. I was memorizing lines. 0:18:09.960 --> 0:18:14.119 I was just shooting with Tom Cruise like, wow, you do. 0:18:15.000 --> 0:18:17.080 Yeah, you know, I ran it a lot with my mom. 0:18:17.080 --> 0:18:19.159 I didn't really read well then, but it was funny 0:18:19.240 --> 0:18:21.639 kind of the jump in learning where you know, I 0:18:21.680 --> 0:18:23.720 was reading like go dog go, Yeah, and then I 0:18:23.720 --> 0:18:27.040 went to reading screenplays, you know, really big, Like it 0:18:27.080 --> 0:18:29.280 was a really big jump. And I say that to 0:18:29.280 --> 0:18:30.840 make the point that I think I got a really 0:18:30.880 --> 0:18:34.840 you know, between having that and really some great onset teachers. 0:18:36.680 --> 0:18:39.959 My ability to read was just way ahead of of 0:18:40.000 --> 0:18:42.600 my peers because of because of acting. I don't know 0:18:42.640 --> 0:18:44.280 if it would have been without, you know. 0:18:44.600 --> 0:18:49.480 Yeah, that's amazing. Were your parents what were they thinking now? 0:18:49.640 --> 0:18:52.880 Like they had just a few months before really been 0:18:52.960 --> 0:18:55.440 quick to poo pooh your idea of becoming an actor, 0:18:55.600 --> 0:18:59.800 and then you book this role with a massive movies 0:19:00.080 --> 0:19:00.520 are and. 0:19:00.640 --> 0:19:04.399 The movie star and at the time the director, I mean, 0:19:04.520 --> 0:19:07.120 exactly couldn't be a bigger project. 0:19:07.400 --> 0:19:08.800 Yeah, Like, what are they thinking? 0:19:09.440 --> 0:19:11.120 Well, I think they were, you know, they were excited. 0:19:11.240 --> 0:19:14.399