1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:04,080 Speaker 1: Welcome in Texans All Access Players Edition. I'm in d Kalud. 2 00:00:04,240 --> 00:00:06,960 Speaker 1: He is Mark vandermir sitting to my right. One of 3 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:09,399 Speaker 1: my favorite stories when it comes to the Houston Texan 4 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 1: and the Houston Texan roster. Khalil Davis and most of 5 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 1: you listening know about this man, but why it's a 6 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:19,079 Speaker 1: great story for me as a guy myself who's drafted late, 7 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 1: got cut, bounced around before I finally, you know, got 8 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:25,320 Speaker 1: security in the league. I see that with you being 9 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 1: a late draft pick with the Tampa Tampa Bay Buccaneers 10 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:32,480 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty, going off to the USFL and being 11 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:35,560 Speaker 1: the stud defensive player of the Year and now finding 12 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:38,239 Speaker 1: a home in Houston. You know, it's just an awesome, 13 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 1: awesome story and something I appreciate. So first of all, 14 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:45,480 Speaker 1: congratulations on sticking with it and finding a home. And man, 15 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 1: we're pumped to have you here with the Players Edition. 16 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you for having me. 17 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 3: All right, So, Khalil, what do you make of it 18 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 3: so far? Because you got here last year and last 19 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 3: year was a crazy year. Let's just talk about that 20 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 3: for a moment. Because you played for Birmingham in the USFL. 21 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 3: That's the us right, so they changed the name of 22 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 3: the league already because they merged with the XFL. We're 23 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 3: keeping tabs on this, but how many games did you 24 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:07,480 Speaker 3: play for them? 25 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:09,040 Speaker 4: And then for the Texans last year? 26 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:10,720 Speaker 2: So it's kind of funny. 27 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:14,760 Speaker 5: My first two games, I was inactive in that league 28 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:17,279 Speaker 5: because I got there late because I just had a baby, 29 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 5: so the coach didn't really know me. So it was 30 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 5: twelve games and two playoffs. So I missed the first 31 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 5: two games of that season, so I played ten plus 32 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 5: the two playoffs, and coincidentally here I was inactive the 33 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 5: first two games and then I was active the rest 34 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:35,639 Speaker 5: of the year, So that was what twelve plus twenty 35 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 5: twenty two to twenty four games? 36 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 4: How did that affect your body? Just going through all 37 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 4: of that? 38 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 5: It was. It was hard, but I just knew, like 39 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 5: you know, I try to think of it from the 40 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:46,959 Speaker 5: coach perspective, like they don't care about that. They just 41 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 5: want to see results. So I just kind of shut 42 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 5: that out on my mind and did what I had 43 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 5: to do to take care of my body. And it 44 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 5: hurt for sure, but being available is the best thing, 45 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 5: so I just made sure I was available. 46 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 1: You talked about the first two games inactive with your 47 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 1: USFL team because you got there late. What happened, like, 48 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 1: when did you open eyes? Was it in practice? When 49 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 1: did they say, oh, we got to get that gun 50 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 1: on the field. 51 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:13,360 Speaker 2: So it's a funny story. I was contemplating. 52 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 5: I was having a hard time making a decision if 53 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 5: I wanted to do the USFL a little bit of pride, 54 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:20,360 Speaker 5: you know, I felt like, you know, I'm not the 55 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 5: type of player that needs to do this, but you know, 56 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 5: I'm very spiritual, and I just you know, some kept 57 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 5: telling me that, you know, just do it, try and 58 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:29,240 Speaker 5: see where it goes and see where gonna take you. 59 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 5: But at the same time, I was my baby was 60 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 5: just born in February, so I was like, man, I 61 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:36,959 Speaker 5: need to spend time with you know, with my wife 62 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 5: and baby. But you know, she was she was very 63 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 5: encouraging on you know, if you need to go do this, 64 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:44,680 Speaker 5: go do it. So I ended up making the decision, 65 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 5: but it was still late. They had already started camp 66 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:49,359 Speaker 5: and there was only one week of camp left, so 67 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 5: I got their late. Coach didn't really see a lot 68 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 5: from me, so he was like, you know, I'm going 69 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 5: with these other guys first, and you know, I went 70 00:02:57,080 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 5: and after that first game, I went to go speak 71 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 5: to a man to man, I was like, you know, 72 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:04,079 Speaker 5: I just need a shot. I know you know these 73 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 5: other guys better than me, but just you know, just 74 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:07,960 Speaker 5: give me a shot. Let me get one game. And 75 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:11,520 Speaker 5: I just told myself I've never looked back. But you know, 76 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 5: we joke about it at the end of the season. 77 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 5: He was like, that was one of the best decisions 78 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:17,240 Speaker 5: I've ever made, was to you know, give you your shot. 79 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 5: Because he's like, I didn't know what I was dealing with, 80 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 5: but I'm very happy that I chose to put you 81 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 5: out there. 82 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 1: Did he not watch film? How did he not know? 83 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 1: Like he didn't go watch the Nebraska film and early on. 84 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 1: But for those listening, he said, she Khalil's beautiful wife, 85 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:34,519 Speaker 1: Emily is in studio with us, and she probably was saying, now, 86 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 1: when we had the baby, did you want to just 87 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 1: get out the house, get out of your hair? So, 88 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 1: you know, supportive wife told him to do what he 89 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 1: had to do. But I love those stories. Let's talk 90 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 1: about the difference between the USFL and the NFL. I 91 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 1: know a lot of times when we get asked, what's 92 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 1: the difference between college and the NFL. For me, I 93 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 1: always told people was the size and speed of the guys. 94 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 1: Like every week, somebody's just been and they're fast and quick. 95 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 1: What's the difference between the USFL and the NFL. 96 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 5: I would I would have to agree with you on that. 97 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 5: It's just the size, but also technique. You know, in 98 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 5: the UFL there was you know, guys that had size, 99 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 5: but I think where the difference is is those guys 100 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 5: can't get their technique to what it is in the league. So, 101 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 5: you know, I had speed, I had quickness, but I 102 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:23,479 Speaker 5: was able to just do you know, have my way 103 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 5: with a lot of the guys in that league just 104 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:28,600 Speaker 5: because of my quickness and speed. So I'd say it's 105 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:31,159 Speaker 5: really all technique and how how perfect can you be? 106 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:34,160 Speaker 5: You know, nobody's perfect, but those guys that are elite 107 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:37,280 Speaker 5: with their hands, and that's the difference from UFL and. 108 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 4: NFL. 109 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:42,279 Speaker 3: Skip Holtz was the coach, right, yeah, Skip Holtz, Okay, 110 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:46,159 Speaker 3: all right, Travis the coordinator. Okay, used to coach at Yukon. 111 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 3: So that's why I don't like him. Just kidding, just kidding. 112 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:51,720 Speaker 3: That goes back deep with me. Khalil Davis with US 113 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 3: all right, so you start with the Bucks and you 114 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 3: must have learned a lot from those guys on that 115 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 3: d line discussed that a little bit what that was like. 116 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 3: And you're the young popp in there and they're on 117 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 3: a Super Bowl campaign with Tom Brady on the other 118 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 3: side of the ball. 119 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 1: It was. 120 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:08,160 Speaker 2: It was so much fun. 121 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 5: But at the same time, you know, when you have 122 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:13,039 Speaker 5: your rookie and a room full of vets. The next 123 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:15,479 Speaker 5: youngest guys other than the rookies were year five, and 124 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 5: then it went all the way up to what year thirteen, 125 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:22,839 Speaker 5: Sue and Donkan. Sue was in year twelve at the time. 126 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 5: So I learned a lot, but you know, a lot 127 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 5: of a lot of rookie a lot of rookie hazing, 128 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 5: which was you know, I enjoyed it. I have a 129 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:30,720 Speaker 5: bunch of stories to tell, but. 130 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:35,480 Speaker 4: You enjoyed the hazing now now at the top, not 131 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:36,160 Speaker 4: at the time. 132 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 2: You can look back and laugh. 133 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 5: Now, it was I respect it because you know, they 134 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 5: that's just their way of bringing you into the league. 135 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:46,600 Speaker 5: So I understood what, you know, what I had to do, 136 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 5: so I made the best of it. But just the 137 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:51,920 Speaker 5: knowledge to be able to see those guys work and 138 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:55,160 Speaker 5: I you know, I saw a bunch of guys. Will Golston, 139 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 5: Steve McClendon was in the room, Keem new Year's roach 140 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:03,840 Speaker 5: is Vita Veya? All those guys are you know, everyone 141 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 5: was at a different point in their career. But I 142 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:08,159 Speaker 5: just saw, you know, what each person brought to the table. 143 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:10,719 Speaker 5: So I was like, you know, I knew, you know, 144 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 5: maybe I wasn't gonna have a big role that year, 145 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:15,840 Speaker 5: but I just, you know, I was. I was on 146 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:18,280 Speaker 5: scout team going up against the number one O line 147 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:20,599 Speaker 5: every week, so I was preparing him for the game. 148 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 5: So I was I was getting better even though I 149 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 5: wasn't playing. But oh, I have so many questions about that. 150 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 3: All right, wait a couple of things here, nd because 151 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 3: all right, first of all, in no particular order, Vita Vea, 152 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 3: what's he like? And athletically? How impressive to be around him? 153 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 3: To be that size and move the way he can move? 154 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 5: I was, I was blown away, to be honest, I've 155 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 5: never seen someone so big. And to me, I kind 156 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 5: of say it like this, he's like a statue. Like 157 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 5: the further away you're you're away from him, You're like, man, 158 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 5: he's not that big. But you get two feet away 159 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:55,360 Speaker 5: from your life. Oh my goodness. But yeah, I've seen 160 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:57,719 Speaker 5: him do some things that just doesn't make sense on 161 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:00,359 Speaker 5: the practice field and football field. So it's it was 162 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 5: just amazing to watch him work at the you know, 163 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:04,160 Speaker 5: at the size that he is. 164 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 1: All right. 165 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 3: Second thing, can you give us an example? Is there 166 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 3: something you could tell us about the hazing? Like and Andy, 167 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 3: I want you to weigh in on this. You you 168 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 3: were probably were you hazed at all early in your career? 169 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 1: Hey, so I was drafted in ninety seven. Hazing was 170 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 1: big back then. But luckily coach Andy Reid, he was 171 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 1: big on the rookies have enough to learn, so don't 172 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 1: mess with him because they they have to learn the playbook. 173 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 1: So we got lucky. But what we had to do. 174 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 1: We had to bring in breakfast every morning. Yeah, then 175 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 1: on the flights, Okay, we had to bring in the food. 176 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 4: Not like weird fraternity. Yeah, I had. 177 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 2: I had a little bit of everything. 178 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 5: Mainly it was from Mainly it was from Sue just 179 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 5: because we went to the same college. So he just 180 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 5: he just gave me, you know, an extra hard time. 181 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 5: But you know, simple things like he would the coach 182 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 5: would tell me to go in and clear you got 183 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 5: two players. He would grab the back of my jersey 184 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 5: and hold it as long as he could until the 185 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 5: coaches like get in. 186 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 4: So gosh, those are just. 187 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 2: You know, small things to just try to, you know, 188 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 2: mess with you. But he was awesome. He was awesome 189 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 2: all right. 190 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 3: Then scout team, so that means Brady's on the other side. 191 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 3: So you're playing defensive Scout team buccaneer practice, Brady's getting 192 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 3: ready week to week. 193 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 4: What was that like? 194 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 3: He's right across a lot of scrimmage for you, the 195 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 3: best quarterback of all time, and he's really diligent about 196 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 3: preparation practice. 197 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 2: What was that like before before he was on the team. 198 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 5: You know, I was not a Brady fan, you know, 199 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 5: but being able to practice against him, I just saw how, 200 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 5: you know, every every practice, every day was like a 201 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 5: game to him. So and I as a quarterback to 202 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 5: see that, it was like, man, like He's treating everything 203 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 5: like it's a game situation. So it was just awesome, 204 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:48,199 Speaker 5: like it kind of it kind of you know, the 205 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:50,680 Speaker 5: aura around him was like, man, I need to be 206 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 5: perfect or I need to you know, be on my 207 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 5: on my stuff because you know, Tom's on it every day. 208 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 5: But he it was it was a blast just to 209 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 5: just to see that from a caliber player like him 210 00:09:02,480 --> 00:09:04,559 Speaker 5: at a young at a young age in the league, 211 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:08,200 Speaker 5: and you know, you can learn a lot just from 212 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 5: being around them. 213 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 4: And so, yeah, was there a time you have Tom 214 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:12,679 Speaker 4: Brady on the team? 215 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 3: So I figured, you figured it's always possible to get 216 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 3: to the super Bowl, and you're probably just focused on 217 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 3: your career really just trying to fit in and make plays. 218 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:22,559 Speaker 3: But were you thinking we got a shot here, we 219 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:24,680 Speaker 3: got a shot to get the ring. And it's my 220 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 3: first year in the league, by the way. 221 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:27,439 Speaker 2: To be honest, I didn't. 222 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 5: I didn't understand what, you know, what the team was 223 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:32,839 Speaker 5: or what the team had, you know, being drafted there 224 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 5: that year. But as the season kept going on, you know, 225 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:41,200 Speaker 5: probably about week ten, week twelve, I truly understood, like, 226 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 5: you know what this this is a super Bowl team 227 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:45,960 Speaker 5: and I didn't know it's my first year, so I 228 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:48,679 Speaker 5: don't know what that looks like. But at some point 229 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 5: it hit you and you you know, everybody kind of 230 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 5: even the scout team, players, practice squad, they kind of 231 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 5: just stepped it up and was like, you know, I 232 00:09:57,040 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 5: can't I can't be the weakest link basically, So that's 233 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 5: that's kind of what it was for me. But and 234 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 5: my job, you know, I always try to figure out 235 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:10,319 Speaker 5: my role, but my role was just however I can 236 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 5: help the team get get to the Super Bowl. So 237 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 5: I only played in two regular season but I try 238 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 5: to make the most of my opportunities. But a heavy 239 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:22,199 Speaker 5: VET team like that, you know, opportunities were limited. 240 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 4: Well, and you're part of it. 241 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 3: I mean you get a ring for that, right, I 242 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:28,560 Speaker 3: mean you're absolutely definitely contributing to the success of the franchise, 243 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:29,120 Speaker 3: no doubt. 244 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:30,840 Speaker 4: And it's the COVID season too. 245 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:34,839 Speaker 5: Man, it was a crazy or no preseason. Just straight 246 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:38,839 Speaker 5: into the season I went, I went straight from I 247 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 5: was living with her at the time at her parents' house, 248 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:45,079 Speaker 5: so I went straight from her house to camp start 249 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 5: of camp, and then it was straight shot from there 250 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:47,719 Speaker 5: on on. 251 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:50,200 Speaker 3: So so every day you got to go home early. 252 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 3: It's not like these days, right, they're kicking everybody out 253 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 3: of the building, so go home. 254 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:56,440 Speaker 4: So you're going back to Emily's house. Emily's parents' house. 255 00:10:56,679 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 5: Well, when I reported there, it was full go. So 256 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 5: once I left her hotel, I didn't come back till February. 257 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:06,200 Speaker 4: Okay, got it interesting? 258 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I forgot that they were doing that, the sequestering, 259 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 3: and well it makes sense. It's COVID, so stay in 260 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 3: your room, right. 261 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 2: That's what it was. Zoom meetings. Zoom, yeah, zoom meetings. 262 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 1: Everything that's interesting about that. That's his first year, so 263 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:24,440 Speaker 1: you didn't really get to feel a normal season until 264 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 1: what twenty twenty two or because I know they slowly 265 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:29,719 Speaker 1: transition back to some normalcy. 266 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 5: I'd say twenty twenty. End of twenty twenty one, twenty 267 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:35,959 Speaker 5: twenty two. That next year was almost back to normal. 268 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:37,840 Speaker 5: But that was my first year as a preseason so 269 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 5: first year really you know, learning what preseason was and 270 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:43,600 Speaker 5: what coaches were looking for and so, you know, I 271 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 5: was a little behind the ball a little bit as 272 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 5: far as my understanding, but you know, I just take 273 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 5: everything how it goes and learn from it. 274 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 4: Well, we were trying to. 275 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:56,199 Speaker 3: I mean, we were actually getting tested week to week 276 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 3: back in twenty twenty one, twenty twenty every day. If 277 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:00,840 Speaker 3: you're in the inner tier, you getting tested every day. 278 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:03,080 Speaker 3: I wasn't in the inner tier, so we were doing 279 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 3: these games on monitors. Twenty twenty one though, I was 280 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:07,680 Speaker 3: back on the plane, but we were getting tested every week. 281 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 3: If you test positive, you're off the plane. So that 282 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 3: was a little unnerving, you know, and walking up to 283 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 3: that test trailer because I feel fired. But you know COVID, 284 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 3: it's like you get test positive, you're popped and that's it. 285 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:21,440 Speaker 3: You're not going anymore. And that applies to the players too. 286 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's awful. 287 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:23,840 Speaker 4: Oh my gosh. 288 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:26,959 Speaker 1: So having a season where you didn't have any preseason 289 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:29,440 Speaker 1: games versus a season where you play, you know, up 290 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:33,680 Speaker 1: to four preseason games. Are you four preseason games against? Like, 291 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 1: do you think it helps the team at home? 292 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:39,080 Speaker 5: I think it definitely helps the players, especially for the 293 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 5: guys who you know, don't get a lot of reps 294 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:43,560 Speaker 5: from practice. You know, those preseason games. That's where you're 295 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:45,959 Speaker 5: you know, trying to go, you know, show teams what 296 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:48,679 Speaker 5: you can do. So I definitely feel like it's it's 297 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 5: it's needed. 298 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. 299 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 3: So all right, Khalil Davis with us, all right, after 300 00:12:54,240 --> 00:12:58,599 Speaker 3: the Buccketeers it's Colt Steelers, Bucks Rams. So what was 301 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 3: the longest stay at any of the those spots, because 302 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 3: then after the Rams you're in the ufl USFL. I 303 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:08,320 Speaker 3: did it with BIRMINGHAMS So what about those other teams. 304 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:13,959 Speaker 5: The Colts was only four month I went. I went 305 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:16,720 Speaker 5: from there straight to Pittsburgh. I was there from November 306 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 5: to next preseason, and that was the longest stint between 307 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 5: there and the UFL. And then once I left there, 308 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 5: I was on the street for four weeks. I picked 309 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:29,719 Speaker 5: back up by Tampa for ten weeks, and then I 310 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:32,960 Speaker 5: was with the Rams for the last four weeks of 311 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:33,440 Speaker 5: the season. 312 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 3: What is that like as a young pro. I mean, 313 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:39,320 Speaker 3: that's got to be very difficult. You don't know what's 314 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 3: gonna happen, and I guess nobody really knows what's gonna happen. 315 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 3: But you're getting through that and you're still in the 316 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:45,200 Speaker 3: league right now. 317 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's honestly, it's very hard. You can't you can't 318 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:51,560 Speaker 5: prepare for anything like that. But at the time, you know, 319 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 5: she wasn't with me. I was moving around too much, 320 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:56,200 Speaker 5: so we had a house in Georgia's that's where she was. 321 00:13:57,200 --> 00:13:57,720 Speaker 1: It was hard. 322 00:13:58,160 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie. It was really hard. 323 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 5: But honestly, I feel like I made a lot of 324 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 5: mistakes because it was so hard on me. At the time, 325 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:06,720 Speaker 5: I wasn't focused on football, and it kind of takes 326 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:08,960 Speaker 5: your mind away from it, because all you're thinking about 327 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:10,199 Speaker 5: is like, man, I was just here. 328 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 2: I thought I was doing everything. 329 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:14,560 Speaker 5: Right, and then now I'm here And while you're at 330 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:17,080 Speaker 5: this place, you know you're supposed to be a part 331 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 5: of this team, but you're still thinking about the other team. 332 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 5: So it was hard. But really I just don't know 333 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 5: how to give up. I just take where I'm at 334 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 5: and then I do the best with that situation. So 335 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 5: I didn't look at it. It's like, man, I knew 336 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 5: it was hard, but I never thought like, man, it's 337 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 5: over for me. 338 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 3: So last year you're in a room that has Maleak, 339 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 3: it has Sheldon Rankins. Those guys are gone. Now you 340 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 3: get Folly coming in Mario Edwards. How have things changed 341 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 3: with the d tackles in particular? I know at defensive 342 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 3: end we got some changes as well with the Neil Hunter. 343 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 3: Here is so the whole room coached by Rod Wright 344 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 3: and Nate Oli, what is that like? 345 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 5: It's honestly, Nate and make the room very, very fun. 346 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 5: I think what they do best is they just allow 347 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 5: their players to be them within the scheme of the defense, 348 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 5: but they allow their players to be themselves, and it's 349 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 5: very different from Malik and Rank. Obviously I was familiar 350 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 5: with Malik. I played with him one year in college, 351 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 5: so I knew, you know, we kind of had a relationship, 352 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 5: but really it was just trying to bond in camp 353 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 5: and bond with those guys and very different. Each guy's 354 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:30,640 Speaker 5: very different, but they bring something something very real to 355 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 5: the to the D line room, and you know, just 356 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 5: a bunch of different personalities, but we all understand, you know, 357 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 5: what the goal is. 358 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 3: What's it going to be like when the team gets 359 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 3: to Nico back a tree man. 360 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 5: I think it's the D line's going to be even 361 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 5: scarier because now you can line up somebody like the Nico. 362 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 5: You can line him inside, you can line him outside, 363 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 5: and it really just creates, you know, one on ones 364 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 5: for a bunch of guys, and that's what's what we want. 365 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 1: Speaking of one of ones, you know, before we had 366 00:15:56,680 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 1: the preseason production meeting, you were one of our guests 367 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 1: so studied up. And I'm not just saying it because 368 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 1: you're here, but when I watched a film, I'm like, 369 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 1: this guy should have been with one team the entire time. 370 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 1: So did you improve on something or do you feel 371 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 1: like you were just put in a situation where you 372 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 1: were able to show what you bring with your quickness 373 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 1: or speed to change. You know, there's some place in 374 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 1: the preseason I remember how quickly you changed a lot 375 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 1: of scrimmage and even if you don't make the tackle, 376 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 1: that just rupts the offense. So did you improve upon 377 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:26,640 Speaker 1: something or do you feel like this was finally the 378 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 1: chance I had to show what I can do. 379 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 2: I think it's a little bit of both. 380 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 5: I finally got a chance to show, you know, giving 381 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 5: a full body of work, what I could do. You know, 382 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 5: some things you can't control, and you know I understand that. 383 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 5: So it's a little bit of that, but a little 384 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 5: bit of you know, the Texans gave me opportunity to 385 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 5: truly show what I could do. And to me, I 386 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 5: always you know, tell people when they ask that question, 387 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 5: if you believe in me, I'm like, that's like the 388 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 5: ultimate trust to me to go out there and show 389 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 5: like this is what I'm about. And I always try 390 00:16:57,040 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 5: to leave it up to the tape like that's that's 391 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 5: that's me, that's my body work. You live and die 392 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 5: by what you put on the field. 393 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:05,920 Speaker 1: All right, speaking of tape, what's your go to pass rush? 394 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:09,159 Speaker 1: Move if your d line coach says Khalil, We're not 395 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 1: running any stunts. Just get there and line up on 396 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 1: the shade so you have the edge of the whether 397 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:16,240 Speaker 1: it's a guard attack or what's your go to move. 398 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 5: Go to move will probably be a double swipe or 399 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:23,160 Speaker 5: I know I'm short, I'm small, but if I can 400 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:26,640 Speaker 5: beat the alignment off the ball or club I'm over quick, 401 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:29,639 Speaker 5: club on over. So anything that's quick allowing me to 402 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 5: use my speed. 403 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 1: You say you're short, I don't understand. Some of the 404 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 1: best guys I've played with, played against, especially the guys 405 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:39,200 Speaker 1: that play inside, they're that six ' to two below. 406 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:41,720 Speaker 1: You know you talked about Dominicans. Well, dominic is actually 407 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 1: pretty big. But Aaron Donald, I don't think he's over 408 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 1: six too. I don't know if you remember the name 409 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:49,640 Speaker 1: Elvis Duperville. I've played for the Broncos. Legit five eleven, 410 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:52,679 Speaker 1: Dwight Freeny maybe six to one if you have some 411 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 1: heels on. Robert mathis yep. So my point is it's 412 00:17:57,760 --> 00:18:01,239 Speaker 1: funny like the so called ideal defensive linement is six 413 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:05,200 Speaker 1: four three hundred pounds, but so many studs are under 414 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 1: that six two and they would say low man wins. 415 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:09,679 Speaker 1: So I just always wonder, so do you find yourself 416 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:11,160 Speaker 1: using that to your advantage of the time. 417 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:14,720 Speaker 5: That's that's my bread and butter every every like I 418 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 5: always every week, I'm like, man, I wonder what you 419 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 5: know their scouting report says about me? And I just know, 420 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:23,439 Speaker 5: like if I because of my height, I use my 421 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:26,960 Speaker 5: leverage to my advantage because that means if you're six ' 422 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 5: five and I'm playing as low as possible, You're not 423 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 5: gonna be able to move me. And with my strength 424 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:34,920 Speaker 5: and quickness, I'm if I'm low every time and playing 425 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:36,639 Speaker 5: with my hands, there's no way you can move me. 426 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:39,919 Speaker 5: And I just use that to my advantage. And I 427 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 5: just I like it that way because their job, you know, 428 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 5: they're trying to figure out how do I beat this guy? 429 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 2: You know, he's he's. 430 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:49,879 Speaker 5: Not six y four, he's not pure power, and so 431 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 5: I just think I like the challenge. 432 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 3: Well, at training camp, you guys do those one on 433 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:57,359 Speaker 3: one drills, right, and Johnny Harris always goes over there 434 00:18:57,400 --> 00:19:00,119 Speaker 3: and watches those. I'm still watching quarterbacks and receivers and 435 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 3: dbs because I don't even know what I'm looking at. 436 00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:03,680 Speaker 4: Do you enjoy those? 437 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 3: What part of practice, if any, do you enjoy? 438 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 1: Do? 439 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:10,360 Speaker 3: I look forward to this because I know I've heard 440 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 3: the old saying. The old cliche is you pay me 441 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 3: to practice Sundays, I'll give you for free or whatever 442 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:18,359 Speaker 3: it is. But what about practice? Khalil I? 443 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:22,359 Speaker 5: My mentality about practice has changed. I used to dread 444 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:25,119 Speaker 5: practice for some reason, not that I wasn't ready to 445 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:27,639 Speaker 5: go work, but there's something about it. But now I 446 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:31,920 Speaker 5: embrace practice. But one on ones is like, it's like 447 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 5: where you get to go craft just try try it 448 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 5: for moves and you know, do things that you normally 449 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:39,400 Speaker 5: wouldn't do in a team situation. So it's fun. It's 450 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 5: unrealistic a little bit, but that's that's where you go 451 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 5: craft man. That's where you learn your moves and just 452 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:45,439 Speaker 5: go try some new stuff. 453 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 1: All right, Who has the advantage one on one? Pass 454 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 1: us drill? Because every time a D lineman would win, 455 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 1: the offense will say, oh, you know, this is designed 456 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:55,879 Speaker 1: for you, And anytime offense would win, we'll say, oh, you. 457 00:19:55,880 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 2: Know, it's definitely designed for the old line. Yeah, come on. 458 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 3: There it is you guys, stick it together. It's a 459 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:09,480 Speaker 3: fraternity to uh goal line stand on Sunday against the Jaguars. 460 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 3: Take us through that, because that is something else, being 461 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 3: able to stop them after Kalen make sure that he's 462 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 3: out of bounds, setting up that whole situation. And you 463 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 3: guys had to get fired up for that, like, yeah, 464 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:23,200 Speaker 3: we gave up a big one, but let's go ahead 465 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 3: and put up a wall. 466 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:25,359 Speaker 2: That was awesome. 467 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:27,399 Speaker 5: I wasn't I was on the sideline, but you know, 468 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 5: I was watching the play and I'm like, you know 469 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:31,440 Speaker 5: what this is. This is not a not a pass, 470 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:34,480 Speaker 5: is QB draw? And so I knew that the play 471 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 5: was coming. But you know the way Foley plays and Mario, 472 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 5: Mario just shot off the ball. You know, those guys 473 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 5: won on one. It's a it's a win every time 474 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:47,119 Speaker 5: to me. And so to think that, you know, it's 475 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 5: kind of disrespectful that they thought that, you know, those 476 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:52,119 Speaker 5: two guys are gonna beat Mario in in folly. But 477 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 5: it's a it's a big time play, really big time 478 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:58,520 Speaker 5: play for Foley, And you know, I'm happy that he 479 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:00,399 Speaker 5: he was able to make that on his former teams. 480 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 3: That's that's amazing. So what's he like, what's his personality like? 481 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 5: Fully is very mature, like very you know, ahead of 482 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:11,720 Speaker 5: his time, even though he is an older guy. But 483 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:16,639 Speaker 5: he's uh, he's very very calm, but he gets the 484 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 5: guys riled up. He can you know, he can give 485 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:21,720 Speaker 5: a speech get you riled up. But fully is very 486 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 5: intentional about everything he does. And so we have he's 487 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:28,720 Speaker 5: my locker maate. So every day before practice, we what's 488 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:30,720 Speaker 5: what's what's your what's your one today? What's your you 489 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:32,119 Speaker 5: know your one? Get better today? 490 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 3: So okay, do you feel like there's a lot of 491 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:37,160 Speaker 3: New Yorker in him because he's from New York? 492 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 4: But I feel like I hear it in his voice. 493 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:40,080 Speaker 2: A little bit. 494 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:43,399 Speaker 5: It comes out, it comes out of Sometimes I'm like, man, like, 495 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:45,199 Speaker 5: are you trying to change your voice? But it just 496 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 5: I think it just you know, if you're from there, 497 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:50,359 Speaker 5: you naturally have that that accent that comes with it. 498 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 1: So absolutely, you talked about the the goal line stand, 499 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 1: and I love that you got the mental rep because 500 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 1: he said, you knew it wasn't going to be a past. 501 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:00,480 Speaker 1: So he's lined up in shotgun. You know it's going 502 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:02,399 Speaker 1: to be a run. What do you see to say 503 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 1: this isn't going to be a pass. 504 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:07,480 Speaker 5: It's just you know, kind of something that you you 505 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 5: can just tell, like if you if you watch a 506 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 5: sequence or you know, a set of plays, the way 507 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 5: that he set up, you know, there was no like 508 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 5: looking out to a receiver. It was kind of you know, 509 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 5: you can tell one of the quarterbacks playing off something 510 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:21,639 Speaker 5: and he's kind of trying to. 511 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 2: Hurry up so make you think it's past. 512 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 5: But he's nothing about his body language said I'm going 513 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:28,679 Speaker 5: to throw the ball, and so I just knew, like 514 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 5: QB draw, he's going to go here and go straight 515 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:33,879 Speaker 5: up the middle. But it's just something you you know, 516 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 5: the more you watch football, you can if you truly 517 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 5: watch football, you can say, oh, you know, I know 518 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:39,159 Speaker 5: what this play. 519 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:39,480 Speaker 2: Is going to be. 520 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I love that for the you know, parents 521 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 1: that have kids that play that are listening. It just 522 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 1: goes to show it's not just about the Bruce strength. 523 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 1: Athleticism is watching tape, studying and understanding the tendencies of 524 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:55,680 Speaker 1: the quarterback. All right, Quick time out. This is Texans 525 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 1: All Access Players Edition. Khalil Davis in with us. Don't 526 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:03,399 Speaker 1: touch that dial, Welcome in, Welcome back, Texans All Access Players. Addition, 527 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 1: I'm in d Kalu here is Mark vandermierk Khalil David 528 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 1: sitting to my right, nice enough on his day off 529 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:11,680 Speaker 1: to hang out with us and talk a little football 530 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 1: before we get back to some Texans. Before we get 531 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 1: back to talking about this season, let's go back to 532 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:21,640 Speaker 1: your Nebraska day. It's very successful at Nebraska. But one 533 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 1: thing I wanted to talk about with Nebraska are they back? 534 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 1: The one thing I wanted to ask you, you know, 535 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:29,119 Speaker 1: with the success they've had early on, you know, are 536 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:31,360 Speaker 1: are you wearing the corn Husker gear around the locker 537 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:34,120 Speaker 1: room and talking trash proudly? 538 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:39,120 Speaker 5: Probably I'm the only Nebraska I here, but I wouldn't say, 539 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:42,240 Speaker 5: you know, you know, people love to, you know, quick quick. 540 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 2: To say, you know, brighton Nebraska's back. What I do 541 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 2: think they have. 542 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 5: I think they have a coach, a head coach that 543 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 5: can win, and they have a QB that can that 544 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:54,160 Speaker 5: can win. And so I think if they just keep 545 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:57,600 Speaker 5: doing what they're what they're doing, correct the little mistakes, 546 00:23:57,840 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 5: I think they can win a lot of football games 547 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 5: this year. And you know, I'm excited to watch. I'm 548 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:05,159 Speaker 5: tuned in every week. But yeah, I think they have 549 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 5: a quarterback. I think they have a great head coach, 550 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:10,240 Speaker 5: Matt Ruhle, and you know he can you know, fire 551 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:13,160 Speaker 5: fire those guys up, and they're they're a well coached team, 552 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:14,400 Speaker 5: a better coach team this year. 553 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:17,440 Speaker 1: So I'm excited. I wanted to ask you this because 554 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:21,440 Speaker 1: you obviously played your entire career at Nebraska. Congratulations. It's 555 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:24,240 Speaker 1: a great school and you're young enough to kind of 556 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:26,400 Speaker 1: have a feel about college life. Is like, do you 557 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:29,439 Speaker 1: like the state of college football with the nil and 558 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 1: the portal and the guys moving around as frequently as 559 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:32,360 Speaker 1: they do? 560 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 5: You know when I was, I was you know, the 561 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 5: era before that with no nil, and that's at that time, 562 00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:41,160 Speaker 5: I felt like that's what you know, guys were kind 563 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 5: of you know, fighting for at the time, and you know, 564 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:48,399 Speaker 5: now that it's it's here. I think it's great for 565 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:50,960 Speaker 5: the players to you know, make a little money and 566 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 5: you know, get sponsorships. 567 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:53,639 Speaker 2: I think it's great for that. 568 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:56,639 Speaker 5: I just think it was it was a bigger beast 569 00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:58,600 Speaker 5: than you know, people thought it was going to be, 570 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 5: and so now there's so much moving parts with it 571 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:04,360 Speaker 5: that's it's hard to control. But I think it's great 572 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:06,320 Speaker 5: for the players, just you know, maybe for the coaches. 573 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 5: They probably don't like it as much because now they 574 00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:09,959 Speaker 5: you know, it's kind of like the league a little bit. 575 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:12,680 Speaker 5: You know, these players have money, so you know they're 576 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:14,360 Speaker 5: not going to be one to coach a certain way. 577 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 5: So yeah, it is what it is. 578 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:18,320 Speaker 4: And then they leave, See, they get their free to go. 579 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 4: It's kind of strange. 580 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 5: That just wasn't you know, my in my area, that 581 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 5: just wasn't a thing. I was going to ride it 582 00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 5: out no matter what. 583 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:26,199 Speaker 1: You know. 584 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 5: To leave it was like, you know, you're going to 585 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 5: leave your brothers and you know, go transfer. You know, 586 00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 5: it wasn't as big back then, but I understand it, 587 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:35,400 Speaker 5: definitely understand. You know, guys transferred. 588 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:38,239 Speaker 3: All right, let's talk about your twin brother, Carlos and 589 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:41,440 Speaker 3: you guys you were in at least one camp together, right, 590 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 3: was it Pittsburgh? What was that like, you're in the 591 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 3: same camp. Now, it's one thing to be in college, 592 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:50,639 Speaker 3: but it's the same NFL camp trying to make a squad. 593 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:52,040 Speaker 1: It was. 594 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:54,960 Speaker 2: It was very weird, but it was very. 595 00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 5: Very uh, very cool expertsperience because he was you know, 596 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 5: we were you know in La Trope that's very historic 597 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:08,520 Speaker 5: in the Pittsburgh family, and we were in a dorm, 598 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:10,920 Speaker 5: so he was my you know, our rooms were connected 599 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 5: by a bathroom, so you know, we're competing for a job. 600 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:16,359 Speaker 5: But we both understood, you know, what was going on. 601 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:18,160 Speaker 5: You know, we may not make the team. We may 602 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:20,679 Speaker 5: he may be on the team, I may not be. 603 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:23,199 Speaker 5: But we didn't care about that. We were you know, 604 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 5: we looked at it as like we're in the NFL 605 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:29,679 Speaker 5: camp together to come out here and you know, crafts 606 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:33,399 Speaker 5: play with each other every day. Really, it was no 607 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:37,679 Speaker 5: matter what happened, we both got better as players in 608 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 5: that camp. It was the hardest camp of my life. Mike, 609 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 5: you know, a camp with Mike t Mike Tomlin. He 610 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:47,000 Speaker 5: would always say, you can't run, you can't run from it. Basically, 611 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:48,959 Speaker 5: you know, you can't run from how hard we're going 612 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:51,720 Speaker 5: to work. And so it was the hardest camp of 613 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:54,720 Speaker 5: my life. But I enjoyed every every day, to be honest. 614 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:57,679 Speaker 5: And you know, he would have a team meeting at 615 00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:01,640 Speaker 5: the end of every practice towards the later that night, 616 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:04,119 Speaker 5: and just to hear him talking, you know, his his 617 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:05,880 Speaker 5: speeches to the players, it was awesome. 618 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:09,480 Speaker 3: All bad My Tomlin must be very entertaining. Khalil Davis 619 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:11,399 Speaker 3: with us. All right, so your twin brother. What do 620 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:17,359 Speaker 3: people not know about twins? The bond that exists between twins, 621 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 3: It's something that you probably can't understand unless you're a twin. 622 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:25,919 Speaker 5: Right in first, are you fraternal or identical? We're identical. Ok, 623 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:29,879 Speaker 5: so we're twins to the heart. Man, We're one person, 624 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:32,879 Speaker 5: but we're very different, if that makes sense. 625 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:35,679 Speaker 2: We love the same things. 626 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:38,640 Speaker 5: We do this, enjoy doing the same hobbies, but we're 627 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:41,679 Speaker 5: very different people. But that is truly like, you know, 628 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,400 Speaker 5: my best friend, and you know, no matter what happens, 629 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:46,920 Speaker 5: we'll always come back to each other. I talk to 630 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:50,760 Speaker 5: him almost every day. But yeah, we're twins. Man, it's 631 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:53,400 Speaker 5: like having a best friend your whole life as a kid, 632 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:57,679 Speaker 5: and you know, a baby and the connection is just different. 633 00:27:58,320 --> 00:27:59,639 Speaker 4: Wow. 634 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:02,399 Speaker 3: You were telling me once that at the combine, you 635 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:04,919 Speaker 3: guys were rooming together. Right, So you're both at the 636 00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 3: combine trying to make the league, rooming together and you 637 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 3: got some sort of wrestling match or something like that. 638 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:14,320 Speaker 5: Oh, this is a this is pre draft training where 639 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 5: we were in the same hotel and training at the 640 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 5: same facility. For you know, that's about a month before 641 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:25,200 Speaker 5: you get drafted or and it just you know, you're 642 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 5: playing video games. You had nothing to do but to 643 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:31,000 Speaker 5: train all day and then go back to the hotel. Things, 644 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:33,840 Speaker 5: you know, things happened, you know, you know, brotherly love. 645 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:35,919 Speaker 5: That was I think I was telling you it was. 646 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:38,360 Speaker 5: It was a horrible fight, but it was. It was 647 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:41,560 Speaker 5: a fight of like we both understood, you know, this 648 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,160 Speaker 5: will never be the same for both of us, and 649 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:46,960 Speaker 5: you're going your separate way. I'm going my separating and 650 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:50,080 Speaker 5: sometimes that's the only way to express it, right, And 651 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:53,160 Speaker 5: so it ended up being, you know, a brutal a 652 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:55,080 Speaker 5: brutal battle in the room, but you know, tore up 653 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:56,000 Speaker 5: the hotel bis. 654 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 2: But it was our way of saying, you know, I 655 00:28:58,440 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 2: love you. 656 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:03,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, sure, that's how men communicated I love you. 657 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 1: So let's tear up the hotel room. 658 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 3: And then and there you end up in Pittsburgh for 659 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:10,920 Speaker 3: a short time anyway, but you're together again, so you 660 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:12,520 Speaker 3: never know what's going to happen in life. 661 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:15,240 Speaker 1: That's big to have that bond then, and correct me 662 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 1: if I'm wrong. I'm assuming y'all played junior, high, high 663 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:21,360 Speaker 1: and college together. So when you finally do part, you know, 664 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:24,320 Speaker 1: after the pre draft and you're in a hotel room 665 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:27,520 Speaker 1: somewhere he is. I mean, what was that transitioning experience 666 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 1: like it was? 667 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:32,240 Speaker 5: It was It was hard because I knew, you know, 668 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:34,920 Speaker 5: his mindset was in a different place because he has 669 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,600 Speaker 5: he has a wife as well, and so he, you know, 670 00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 5: he wanted to do his own thing, and you know, 671 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 5: at some point, you know, our you know, mindsets, you know, 672 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:46,400 Speaker 5: if we even wanted to go to the league was 673 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:51,280 Speaker 5: very different. So you know, he kind of he kind 674 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 5: of felt like, you know, you know, I want to 675 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 5: go this way, and I was like, I was adamant 676 00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:58,720 Speaker 5: on I want to go to the league, and maybe 677 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 5: he wasn't at the time, and he was kind of 678 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 5: doing it just because his brother was doing it, and 679 00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:06,800 Speaker 5: you know, maybe he wanted to go pursue something else, 680 00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 5: but you know, he's still stuck with it. And so 681 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:13,440 Speaker 5: that was kind of a little of a battle that 682 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:16,520 Speaker 5: we were dealing with each other. He felt like, oh, 683 00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:19,200 Speaker 5: I'm you know, maybe I'm only doing this because my 684 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:21,680 Speaker 5: brother wanted to, but he still wanted to do it. 685 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 5: I just don't think at the time he you know, 686 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:27,479 Speaker 5: the way our careers went at Nebraska, he was in 687 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:28,280 Speaker 5: a different direction. 688 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 3: I want to ask you this because my second child 689 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 3: I adopted. Right, you guys were adopted? When did you 690 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:37,880 Speaker 3: find out you were adopted? 691 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 4: What age? Because it's different for everybody. 692 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:43,280 Speaker 3: We told our kid pretty young, and you know, we 693 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:45,600 Speaker 3: kind of debated about it, but we thought, eh, whatever, 694 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:47,560 Speaker 3: you know, well he's going to find out what he's 695 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:49,560 Speaker 3: going to find out, and maybe we want to hit 696 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:52,920 Speaker 3: it early. And it just worked out. But he's eleven now, 697 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 3: so I'll let you know. I'll give you a progress 698 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:56,520 Speaker 3: report later. But what about you guys? 699 00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 5: I think we were around somewhere between like nine ten 700 00:30:59,920 --> 00:31:02,800 Speaker 5: or eleven, Yeah, somewhere around there. And when they told us, 701 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 5: it wasn't like we we could comprehend what that meant. Yeah, 702 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:08,800 Speaker 5: We're like okay, And then we went went back outside. 703 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 4: Yeah that's all you know. 704 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's all we know. The house, Yeah, that's all 705 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:12,720 Speaker 2: we know. 706 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:15,520 Speaker 5: So it's you know, it's it's harder on the parent 707 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:18,960 Speaker 5: because you don't know, like what's the right age to 708 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 5: tell your child. And you know, when you know, for 709 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:24,400 Speaker 5: my parents, it was like do we wait because you know, 710 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:27,600 Speaker 5: maybe they won't even comprehend it yet or be able to, 711 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,760 Speaker 5: you know, handle the emotions of so a lot of 712 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:34,280 Speaker 5: the stuff that they kept away from us. They kept 713 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:37,920 Speaker 5: it away until we were mentally capable of handling the information. 714 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:38,880 Speaker 2: Cool. 715 00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:42,080 Speaker 1: It's crazy how resilient kids are. So you literally learned, 716 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:45,479 Speaker 1: you know, a life changing information and y'all say, all right, 717 00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:48,200 Speaker 1: let's go back outside. Is that how it went down or. 718 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:51,560 Speaker 5: That that's literally how they called us in and told us. 719 00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:54,880 Speaker 5: And then we were like, you know, okay, because we 720 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 5: really we didn't care a the time to go back outside. 721 00:31:57,920 --> 00:31:58,120 Speaker 2: Yeah. 722 00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:01,040 Speaker 5: So, but we, I would say this, we we kind 723 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:04,280 Speaker 5: of knew just because of the way certain things were 724 00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:07,120 Speaker 5: happening around the family. We knew that we were different, 725 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:10,960 Speaker 5: and we knew that that was our family. But it 726 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:13,880 Speaker 5: just felt, you know, you know, some things you just know, 727 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:16,520 Speaker 5: and so I think we both knew that, you know, 728 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 5: maybe you know something was off, but you don't really 729 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:21,440 Speaker 5: know how to show that at the time. 730 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,600 Speaker 3: As we speak, Carlos is a free agent, right, yes, sir, 731 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:27,000 Speaker 3: so is that kind of straightly? He's probably working out 732 00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:28,840 Speaker 3: for teams and waiting for that phone to ring. So 733 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:31,960 Speaker 3: a lot of season left a lot of opportunities out there. 734 00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:33,280 Speaker 2: Right for sure. 735 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:36,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, he's he's in Dallas, he's in Arlington, not too 736 00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:39,720 Speaker 5: far from here, training at the facility out there every day, 737 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:42,320 Speaker 5: and you know he's just waiting, waiting on a call, 738 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:44,040 Speaker 5: and you know, staying ready. 739 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:47,280 Speaker 2: We talk every day. He's just you know, waiting, waiting 740 00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:47,880 Speaker 2: for the right call. 741 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:49,680 Speaker 4: Khalil Davis with us. 742 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:53,640 Speaker 3: All right, So let's get into some of your pregame routine, 743 00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:57,520 Speaker 3: maybe the night before. What is specific to you? What 744 00:32:57,560 --> 00:32:59,680 Speaker 3: do you like to do to get ready. Is it 745 00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:01,920 Speaker 3: the same thing every time or you a routine guy 746 00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:02,760 Speaker 3: or do you mix it up? 747 00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:03,560 Speaker 4: How do you handle it? 748 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:06,520 Speaker 5: I'm the same every time. I'm a big believer in 749 00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:09,040 Speaker 5: a routine, and I have to do this before a game. 750 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:11,720 Speaker 5: You know, she's not gonna like to hear this, but 751 00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:15,240 Speaker 5: I have to get my space away from everybody, even 752 00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:16,720 Speaker 5: the wife in the sun. 753 00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 2: So I like to stay at the hotel like that. 754 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:21,520 Speaker 4: Four So keep your head clear. 755 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:24,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, I just have a routine, like I just like 756 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:27,720 Speaker 5: to get my mind in a space where it's just me. 757 00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,000 Speaker 5: I have a stretch your team. I always do, and 758 00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:33,480 Speaker 5: I just like to little bed by myself and I 759 00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:35,000 Speaker 5: have a little bit of peace before the night. 760 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:36,680 Speaker 4: So get ready. 761 00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:40,640 Speaker 1: Don't feel bad, miss Emily. That is the norm for 762 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:43,360 Speaker 1: guys because there's so much love for the wife, they 763 00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:45,360 Speaker 1: feel like they have to give you attention. But before 764 00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:47,320 Speaker 1: a game, you want to get in that space. You're 765 00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:50,760 Speaker 1: very soft spoken, very humble like. But when you play, 766 00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:54,600 Speaker 1: you play not the way you sound on this podcast. 767 00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:57,160 Speaker 1: Do you listen to something? Is there a certain music? 768 00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:00,720 Speaker 1: Coaches always say you can't turn off, turn on, and 769 00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:02,640 Speaker 1: off the switch, but with some guys I've seen that 770 00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:05,440 Speaker 1: they can. How do you go into that different mindset. 771 00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:09,040 Speaker 5: I'm very reserved because the person that my brother and 772 00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:12,360 Speaker 5: I were very loose cannons growing up. As far as 773 00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:15,120 Speaker 5: playing the game of football. My high school coach, he 774 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:17,839 Speaker 5: was very He knew what type of players you were, 775 00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:21,000 Speaker 5: so he just fed the beast. So he allowed us 776 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:23,359 Speaker 5: to play where it was just you know sometimes when 777 00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:24,880 Speaker 5: you cross the line. He allowed us to stay on 778 00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:28,600 Speaker 5: that line every week. So it was we were loose cannon. 779 00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:31,399 Speaker 5: So I can turn the switch on just like that. 780 00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:34,040 Speaker 5: I'm very in control of myself and my emotion. So 781 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:36,759 Speaker 5: I'm very reserved this way because the only time I 782 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:40,359 Speaker 5: get to switch and be that other side is when 783 00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:42,440 Speaker 5: I'm on the field. So I have to say this 784 00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:45,600 Speaker 5: way because I don't like the other person that comes out. 785 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:47,880 Speaker 1: Sounds like incredible haulk Bruce Banners saying, you don't want 786 00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:50,040 Speaker 1: to see the other side of me. 787 00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:52,520 Speaker 4: Just between the lines, right, just between the lines. 788 00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:53,360 Speaker 2: That's it. 789 00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:55,160 Speaker 5: And also, because you know I have a family now 790 00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:57,000 Speaker 5: and my son, you know I have to be able 791 00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:59,560 Speaker 5: to turn that on and off and keep that separate 792 00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:00,640 Speaker 5: from the family. 793 00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:03,960 Speaker 4: Okay, talk to me about the Miko Ryans. What's he like. 794 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:06,479 Speaker 3: You've been around a bunch of head coaches, so what 795 00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,640 Speaker 3: kind of vibe do you get? And obviously it's working 796 00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:11,879 Speaker 3: out well record wise so far, but what do you think? 797 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:15,960 Speaker 5: He's just a player's coach, like a true player's coach, 798 00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:20,040 Speaker 5: someone who is fairly He just finished a not too 799 00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:23,520 Speaker 5: long ago, so he's still like a player. But the 800 00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:26,520 Speaker 5: knowledge sometimes is just amazing to see how much he 801 00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:30,000 Speaker 5: understands the game. And you know a lot of our 802 00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:34,759 Speaker 5: defensive meetings are for the back end DB's and safeties, 803 00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:38,240 Speaker 5: but as he's coaching it, he knows it so well, 804 00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:40,680 Speaker 5: Like he tells the players like, you know, you need 805 00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:43,040 Speaker 5: to be in this spot this time, and he knows 806 00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:45,480 Speaker 5: exactly where the ball is going to go, and it's 807 00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:48,440 Speaker 5: just as a player is So when you know your 808 00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:51,799 Speaker 5: coach is legit and you understand who he was as 809 00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:54,200 Speaker 5: a player and how he's as a coach, you just 810 00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:56,520 Speaker 5: trust him. You believe everything is saying and you want 811 00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:58,680 Speaker 5: to go play for him and play play as hard 812 00:35:58,680 --> 00:35:59,240 Speaker 5: as you can. 813 00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:03,960 Speaker 3: For it's the repid h Town game. So htown Houston, 814 00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:06,960 Speaker 3: what does it mean to you? You're getting a house here, 815 00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:09,640 Speaker 3: you have Emily here, you have a child here. So 816 00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:13,359 Speaker 3: what is your thought about Houston? Or if somebody from 817 00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:15,440 Speaker 3: the outside asks you, hey, what's Houston like? What do 818 00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:17,120 Speaker 3: you like about it? What would you tell them? 819 00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:21,279 Speaker 5: I would say, Houston is Houston is its own, its 820 00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:24,439 Speaker 5: own brand, its own its own city. It has its 821 00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:26,440 Speaker 5: it has its swag to it that you know, most 822 00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:29,200 Speaker 5: people don't know about. But as far as football terms like, 823 00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:32,640 Speaker 5: it's it's just this this this beast, this new beast, 824 00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:34,960 Speaker 5: this new emerging beast that we just want to go 825 00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:37,200 Speaker 5: out there and show like what it is and put 826 00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:37,719 Speaker 5: it on tape. 827 00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:38,720 Speaker 2: So kind of refreshing. 828 00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:42,239 Speaker 3: All right, Well, it's been great visiting with you. I 829 00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:45,680 Speaker 3: know indeed feels the same way defensive lineman brotherhood. 830 00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:47,920 Speaker 1: And number ninety four. Yeah, that's right. 831 00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:48,680 Speaker 4: Oh my gosh. 832 00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:50,759 Speaker 1: I like to say he's wearing it better than I 833 00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:54,160 Speaker 1: did because that explosiveness. I just, you know, appreciate it, 834 00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:56,799 Speaker 1: really appreciate your story. Then when I had a chance 835 00:36:56,880 --> 00:37:00,319 Speaker 1: to interview you before the preseason game, I saw, man, 836 00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:02,839 Speaker 1: he's too nice. I like this guy too much. Now 837 00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:05,040 Speaker 1: I'm going to be rooting them on. But no, just 838 00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:08,759 Speaker 1: congratulations first and foremost on the beautiful family and just 839 00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:12,120 Speaker 1: the success. You know, to bounce around, and I know 840 00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:14,279 Speaker 1: you always have to have that mentality that you can 841 00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:16,759 Speaker 1: be cut at anytime. But you've definitely found a home 842 00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:19,120 Speaker 1: here in Houston. It's pretty fun to fun to watch. 843 00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:21,600 Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you for having all Right, coming up, 844 00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:24,959 Speaker 1: Vandy and I are going to discuss the Jacksonville Jaguar game. 845 00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:28,360 Speaker 1: And it doesn't get any easier. Josh Allen, the Buffalo 846 00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:31,440 Speaker 1: Bills are coming to town. Welcome in, Welcome back Texans 847 00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:34,360 Speaker 1: All Access players. Addition, a big thank you to Khalil 848 00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:37,800 Speaker 1: Davis for joining us right now. Myself in d Kalu 849 00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:39,920 Speaker 1: and Mark Vandermier going to take you the rest of 850 00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:42,439 Speaker 1: the way so we can really talk about what took 851 00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:45,400 Speaker 1: place on the football field just last week. As the 852 00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:48,520 Speaker 1: Jacksonville Jaguars came to town, but they left with the L. 853 00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:50,080 Speaker 4: They left with the big L. 854 00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:53,000 Speaker 3: All right, So back to the goal line stand, which 855 00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:55,400 Speaker 3: we talked to Khalil about a little bit at D. 856 00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:58,880 Speaker 4: You're a D lineman. I think that was such a 857 00:37:58,920 --> 00:37:59,600 Speaker 4: shot in the arm. 858 00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:01,760 Speaker 3: I know that and automatically win the game right away 859 00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:04,320 Speaker 3: from there, because that was to open the fourth quarter. 860 00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:08,080 Speaker 4: But when that occurred, I thought, it's not your day. 861 00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:08,839 Speaker 1: Jaguars. 862 00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:11,640 Speaker 4: Might not be our day yet, but it's definitely not 863 00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:12,239 Speaker 4: your day. 864 00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:16,000 Speaker 1: That's one of the biggest boosts of adrenaline on the 865 00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:18,640 Speaker 1: defensive side of the ball. And like you mentioned, that 866 00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:21,680 Speaker 1: wasn't the game winning play, but that momentum carries you. 867 00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:25,160 Speaker 1: When you can stop an NFL offense from scoring when 868 00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:27,279 Speaker 1: they're only two three yards out and you have that 869 00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:29,920 Speaker 1: goal line stand, I mean that just does something, not 870 00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:31,880 Speaker 1: just for the defensive side of the ball, but it 871 00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:34,360 Speaker 1: resonates to the special teams. That resonates to the offensive 872 00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:36,720 Speaker 1: side because it's so tough to do. Think about it. 873 00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:40,120 Speaker 1: You have, obviously on defense, you have eleven guys, but 874 00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:43,480 Speaker 1: you have eleven guys in front of you in the NFL, 875 00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:44,960 Speaker 1: and they're just trying to pick up a couple of 876 00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:47,600 Speaker 1: yards and you stop them from doing it. When that happens, 877 00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:48,080 Speaker 1: it's big. 878 00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:51,239 Speaker 3: Well, you tell me, now, So the Texans did not 879 00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:53,840 Speaker 3: play a perfect game, we all know that, and the 880 00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:54,920 Speaker 3: Jacks didn't neither. 881 00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:56,680 Speaker 4: But you got the win. 882 00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:59,080 Speaker 3: And I think that coming off the Minnesota game, you 883 00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:02,040 Speaker 3: didn't clean up all that ailed you in that game, 884 00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:05,040 Speaker 3: but you got the win in the division to go 885 00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:06,600 Speaker 3: to two and zero in the division. I think that 886 00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:12,640 Speaker 3: another factor is you improve as the season goes along, preferably. 887 00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:15,280 Speaker 4: I mean, that's the way you have to look at things. 888 00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:18,719 Speaker 3: So you tell me, what can this do for the 889 00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:21,399 Speaker 3: team heading into a big game like this weekend, because 890 00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:23,200 Speaker 3: you know the competition is that much tougher. 891 00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:25,840 Speaker 1: Well, keep in mind because it didn't look as pretty 892 00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:29,520 Speaker 1: as we expected the win against the Jacksonville Jaguar. But 893 00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:31,600 Speaker 1: keep in mind, with that win, did you go up 894 00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:34,680 Speaker 1: to zero in the AFC South? Now, So, I know 895 00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:36,440 Speaker 1: you've talked about it. I'm sure you and John have 896 00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:38,960 Speaker 1: already talked about it. But I know after the game 897 00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:42,759 Speaker 1: people were disappointed. I received some texts and they had 898 00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:46,239 Speaker 1: too many penalties, which they did. It didn't look as 899 00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:48,240 Speaker 1: clean as you wanted it to look, which it didn't. 900 00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:50,759 Speaker 1: But you know what good teams do. They play bad 901 00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:52,959 Speaker 1: sometimes and they still win the game. They still find 902 00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:56,200 Speaker 1: a way to get CJ. Stroud to leave them down 903 00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:58,080 Speaker 1: for the game winning drive. They still find a way 904 00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:00,520 Speaker 1: to get a guy like dar A Gumbawale to make 905 00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:03,759 Speaker 1: a game clinching catch. So, yes, there's a lot of 906 00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:06,040 Speaker 1: film to watch. There's a lot of things to clean 907 00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:08,799 Speaker 1: up for this team to achieve the goals that it 908 00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:11,760 Speaker 1: had before the season. But when you win a game, 909 00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:15,160 Speaker 1: even when you know that you didn't play your best game, 910 00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:18,040 Speaker 1: you didn't have your a game, and this a divisional game, 911 00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:19,719 Speaker 1: I mean that's pretty big. 912 00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:22,120 Speaker 3: We forgot to tell Khali he's supposed to have three 913 00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:24,840 Speaker 3: sacks on Sunday because Dari had the game winning touchdown 914 00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:27,600 Speaker 3: after being on this program, right, we forgot to mention 915 00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:28,399 Speaker 3: that to him. 916 00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:30,680 Speaker 1: We did so, But if he has a sack, then 917 00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:32,799 Speaker 1: there's something to that. There's something to it. 918 00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:35,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, we're going to put up a plaque here in 919 00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:38,200 Speaker 3: the studio and announce it to all the players. So 920 00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:40,640 Speaker 3: I want to ask you, when you talk to the 921 00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:44,520 Speaker 3: current players, you know so many former players. You know 922 00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:47,680 Speaker 3: you're Texans legend, You're part of the community, and you 923 00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:50,319 Speaker 3: know a lot of these current players. And what people 924 00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:52,399 Speaker 3: didn't see is Khalil hung out in studio a little 925 00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:56,320 Speaker 3: bit to ask you some questions about podcasting in general. 926 00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:58,520 Speaker 3: But I know that last week Dari was asking you 927 00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:00,880 Speaker 3: about real estate. I mean, do you feel like a 928 00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:03,920 Speaker 3: responsibility of sorts and I know you want to impart 929 00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:05,840 Speaker 3: wisdom on these guys if at all possible. 930 00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:10,520 Speaker 1: Oh. Absolutely. It's similar to when you're still playing. And 931 00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:13,279 Speaker 1: this is one of the phenomenons that I noticed in 932 00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:17,200 Speaker 1: the NFL early on that I truly appreciated and respected 933 00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:20,239 Speaker 1: when a younger guy comes in who's essentially there to 934 00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:23,879 Speaker 1: take your position. But in my twelve years, I never 935 00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:27,040 Speaker 1: saw something different than the older guy taking him under 936 00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:29,279 Speaker 1: his wing and kind of coaching them up, teaching them 937 00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:31,560 Speaker 1: up because you just know the better he is, the 938 00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:33,920 Speaker 1: better it's going to be for you for your team, 939 00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:36,400 Speaker 1: or if he knocks you out and you don't play, 940 00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:38,319 Speaker 1: it's going to be better for the NFL because you're 941 00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:41,680 Speaker 1: bringing guys up. And I actually take pride when some 942 00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:44,200 Speaker 1: of the current players ask, like, hey, you know, give 943 00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:46,680 Speaker 1: me some tips on life after football. Or you know, 944 00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:49,239 Speaker 1: what did you experience, where were some of your shortfalls 945 00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:52,240 Speaker 1: or what could you have done better? Because the football 946 00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:56,840 Speaker 1: community is still very small. Like you know, Khalil Davis, 947 00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:59,960 Speaker 1: who is probably twenty years younger than me, he taught 948 00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:02,760 Speaker 1: about playing with Tom Brady. I played against Tom Brady. 949 00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:06,080 Speaker 1: You know, there's always that six degrees of separation. His 950 00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:08,719 Speaker 1: coach is Dimica Ryance. You know, obviously I played with 951 00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:12,120 Speaker 1: Domico for three years, but there's that overlap. And it's 952 00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:15,520 Speaker 1: still a small community. So as an elder statesman, you 953 00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:18,480 Speaker 1: always want to, you know, put down that wisdom on 954 00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:19,200 Speaker 1: it's asked for. 955 00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:21,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, and you feel like if a guy is not 956 00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:23,680 Speaker 3: going to help out a younger player, what. 957 00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:24,400 Speaker 4: Does that say about it? 958 00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:25,000 Speaker 1: Exactly? 959 00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:27,279 Speaker 4: And that's bad karma anyway, it's bad. 960 00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:30,680 Speaker 1: And you know, most guys aren't that petty to think, oh, 961 00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:33,560 Speaker 1: they brought him in to replace me. If I give 962 00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:35,480 Speaker 1: him bad advice and I'm gonna have a great year 963 00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:37,960 Speaker 1: because he's not gonna play. It just doesn't work like that, 964 00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:40,880 Speaker 1: Like the best player is gonna play. I don't know 965 00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:43,520 Speaker 1: if you remember the name Trent Cole, very good pass rusher. 966 00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:45,879 Speaker 1: Towards the end of my career. They brought him in 967 00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:48,839 Speaker 1: to replace me, and I saw something special on him. 968 00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:51,319 Speaker 1: I was like, man, this guy's good, so you try 969 00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:53,640 Speaker 1: to help him every step of the way. Then when 970 00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:56,680 Speaker 1: I finished at Philadelphia, they didn't resign me. I finished 971 00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:59,600 Speaker 1: my contract, came to Houston. Then he went off to 972 00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:02,800 Speaker 1: become the stud you know, edge rusher for the Eagles 973 00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:04,800 Speaker 1: and the Colts, And to this day we still text 974 00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:08,239 Speaker 1: each other. So it just it works out when you 975 00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:10,120 Speaker 1: try to make those better next to you, and it 976 00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:11,399 Speaker 1: just ultimately helps you out. 977 00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:13,480 Speaker 3: To Wait, if you mentioned him off the air that 978 00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:15,360 Speaker 3: you I think you were getting a house in Houston 979 00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:17,719 Speaker 3: even before you played here, right, Oh yeah. 980 00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:20,239 Speaker 1: I feel like even though it's funny, my friends that 981 00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:22,600 Speaker 1: are born in Houston, they keep saying, Man, you can't 982 00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:25,719 Speaker 1: claim Houston. You know you're from San Antonio. But as 983 00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:28,319 Speaker 1: soon as I stepped foot in Houston at the age 984 00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:30,880 Speaker 1: of seventeen, when I enrolled at Rice, I knew this 985 00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:33,360 Speaker 1: was going to be home. So even when I signed 986 00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:36,360 Speaker 1: my contract in Philadelphia, I basically use that money to 987 00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:39,120 Speaker 1: build my house in Houston because I always knew Houston 988 00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:39,680 Speaker 1: would be home. 989 00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:41,880 Speaker 3: All right, don't listen people in San Antonio tell us 990 00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:44,800 Speaker 3: he doesn't mean it. I mean he does, but he doesn't. Anyway, 991 00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:47,879 Speaker 3: they know, they know, all right. So one more thing 992 00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:50,040 Speaker 3: for you about Houston. It is Repid h Town Week. 993 00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:52,040 Speaker 3: So I don't think I asked you about this yesterday 994 00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:55,520 Speaker 3: when you're on Texans Monday. Repid Htown. What does Htown 995 00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:57,320 Speaker 3: mean to you? 996 00:43:57,320 --> 00:43:59,760 Speaker 1: You know what we talked about the culture of Houston, 997 00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:04,080 Speaker 1: but repping Htown. This is sounds funny, but this is 998 00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:07,240 Speaker 1: what I'm doing. I have a nineteen ninety six Chevy 999 00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:11,000 Speaker 1: and pala and to me, that's all it says Houston. 1000 00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:13,400 Speaker 1: When I was living in Houston in the nineties, that 1001 00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:15,840 Speaker 1: was the dream card to have. So I'm gonna shine 1002 00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:18,560 Speaker 1: that up. I'm gonna and yes it has a CD player, 1003 00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:20,760 Speaker 1: so I'm gonna put a little scarface in the CD 1004 00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:23,880 Speaker 1: player and I'm gonna wear obviously my hetown gear for 1005 00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:26,040 Speaker 1: the game. But when I think Houston, I just think, 1006 00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:30,400 Speaker 1: you know the parts that I grew up around here, 1007 00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:32,800 Speaker 1: you know, as a seventeen year old going to Rice 1008 00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:36,520 Speaker 1: on the weekends, going to King's Flea Market getting three 1009 00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:39,160 Speaker 1: T shirts for ten dollars, and going to Timmy Chan's 1010 00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:44,280 Speaker 1: Sharpstown mall. I mean, but what I've told you before, 1011 00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:46,640 Speaker 1: there's so many different cultures. You know, you have people 1012 00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:49,920 Speaker 1: from Alvin, you know from Katie that they have their 1013 00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:53,640 Speaker 1: own Houston culture experiences that they love. And that's what 1014 00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:56,000 Speaker 1: I like about Houston is so diverse. There's so many 1015 00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:58,640 Speaker 1: different cultures to embrace. All Right, that's gonna do it 1016 00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:01,600 Speaker 1: for US Texans, all Access. I am in d Kalud 1017 00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:04,719 Speaker 1: for Mark Vandermer. This has been the player's edition. But 1018 00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:06,440 Speaker 1: don't touch that dial. Leave it right here.