1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Hey, y'all, it's doctor Joy and you're listening to Therapy 2 00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:06,640 Speaker 1: for Black Girls. Today's episode kicks off a special three 3 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:10,240 Speaker 1: part series presented by our partners at Chase Saphire Reserve, 4 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 1: focused on travel, mental health, and the power of putting 5 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 1: your joy at the center of your life. Throughout this series, 6 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 1: we'll explore how travel can be a tool for healing. 7 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:21,759 Speaker 1: We'll talk about what it looks like to travel with 8 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 1: friends and how to navigate the dynamics that come with that. 9 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:27,639 Speaker 1: We'll also dive into how wellness trips can boost self 10 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 1: esteem and help you reconnect with yourself in meaningful ways. 11 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 1: But first, we're starting with something that often goes unspoken, 12 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:37,520 Speaker 1: the idea that rest is something black women have to earn, 13 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 1: and this episode will unpack where that belief comes from 14 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 1: and how choosing joy and rest can actually be a 15 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 1: radical act of self care. So, whether you're planning your 16 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 1: next trip or simply need a moment to breathe, this 17 00:00:49,159 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 1: one's for you. If you have been listening to Therapy 18 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 1: for Black Girls long enough, you have likely heard us 19 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 1: talk about the idea of the strong black woman trope. 20 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 1: So this idea that everybody else's needs have to be 21 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 1: prioritized over our own and we know that there is 22 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 1: historical context to this right, like much of the survival 23 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 1: of our community, our families, our churches, our spiritual homes 24 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 1: has been grounded in Black women being of service to 25 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:30,679 Speaker 1: other people, and there will always be a space for 26 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 1: us to be of service to other people. I think 27 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 1: what is really important for us to interrogate at this 28 00:01:36,440 --> 00:01:40,400 Speaker 1: moment is how much of our service to other people 29 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 1: negates our care for ourselves. And so if we only 30 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 1: exist to take care of other people, what then happens 31 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 1: to us? And so we know enough about the research 32 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 1: and the information about what happens when we are not 33 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 1: paying attention to our own needs. We know that we 34 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 1: see increases in maybe things like depression and anxiety. We 35 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 1: notice increases in things like blood pressure, increased heart conditions. 36 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 1: There is no shortage in the toll that it takes 37 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 1: on both our mental and our physical health when we 38 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:19,519 Speaker 1: are being in service of other people at the expense 39 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 1: of ourselves. And so when we talk about the importance 40 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:27,519 Speaker 1: of centering things like joy and rest, it is not frivolous. 41 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 1: It is not something that just happens when we can 42 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:33,800 Speaker 1: get to it. It is something that's actually critical for 43 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 1: us to both be of service to other people, but 44 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 1: more importantly for us to be of service to ourselves 45 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 1: and for us to be connected and grounded to ourselves. 46 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 1: And so I often talk about this guilt that will happen. 47 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 1: I definitely experience it myself when I'm planning to take 48 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 1: a trip somewhere, especially if I'm not bringing the family, 49 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:59,080 Speaker 1: or if I am thinking about wanting to do something 50 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 1: for myself, there is often a twinge of like, oh, 51 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 1: but you know, the kids have a game, or I 52 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 1: really need to be doing this other thing, and I 53 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 1: know that I'm not alone in that feeling, and so 54 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 1: I encourage you, like I encourage myself to really get 55 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:18,079 Speaker 1: still with this idea that rest and joy is something 56 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 1: that I have to earn because like I worked really 57 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 1: hard or because I accomplished X y Z, as opposed 58 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:27,919 Speaker 1: to it being something that I actually deserve and am 59 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:31,919 Speaker 1: worthy of simply because I am a human and I 60 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 1: deserve joy and excitement and pleasurable experiences that both fill 61 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 1: my cup but also allow me to continue to do 62 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 1: the work and be the person that I am in 63 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 1: the world. And so I think anytime we are setting 64 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 1: out to do a new thing, which this might be 65 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 1: for many of us, right like the idea of centering 66 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 1: joy and being really intentional about prioritizing rest, about prioritizing joy. 67 00:03:57,760 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 1: We know that it can be a little bit of 68 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 1: a shift, and it takes some work to get more 69 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 1: intentional about doing these things. And so when I'm thinking 70 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 1: about some of the practical strategies that really can help me, 71 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 1: that may help you as well, to get better at 72 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:16,719 Speaker 1: centering my joy, I often think about my colleague Kenya Crawford, 73 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:19,040 Speaker 1: who I recently had a chance to see again at 74 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 1: the Holding Stakes Her Healer Summit last year. At the summit, 75 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:25,719 Speaker 1: she was our keynote speaker and talked about how she 76 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 1: is very intentional about quarterly vacations. So Kenya has a 77 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 1: private practice, but also does lots of continuing education classes 78 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:40,559 Speaker 1: for other therapists, and so her work is largely service based, 79 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:43,039 Speaker 1: right like, she is a service provider, and I think, 80 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:46,600 Speaker 1: especially when you're a service provider, but also regardless of 81 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 1: what your work is, it is really important for you 82 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 1: to be paying attention to how you are removing yourself 83 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:55,919 Speaker 1: from work so that you can kind of get refilled 84 00:04:56,320 --> 00:05:00,120 Speaker 1: to continue doing that work, and so Kenya is strategic 85 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 1: and very intentional about her quarterly vacations, and every since 86 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 1: she mentioned that, that is something that I have been 87 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:09,719 Speaker 1: endeavoring to do. Now I will admit I am not 88 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 1: there yet. Though this year we did have a week 89 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 1: long break here at Therapy for Black Girls, So that 90 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:18,039 Speaker 1: was my step into getting a little bit more like 91 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:20,359 Speaker 1: Keny in terms of being intentional about my breaks and 92 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 1: my vacations. But it is something that I want to 93 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 1: continue to be intentional about. And I want you for 94 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 1: twenty twenty six and invite you to also look at 95 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 1: your calendar, to actually put myself on the calendar, because 96 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 1: we know that if it is not on the calendar, 97 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:37,839 Speaker 1: at least for me, if it's not on the calendar, 98 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 1: it's not happening. And so I want to be just 99 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:44,279 Speaker 1: as intentional about prioritizing my rest as I am about 100 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 1: the kids' doctor's appointments, the kids' games, family visits, like 101 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:50,920 Speaker 1: all of those things that go on the calendar, Because 102 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 1: it is important enough that I don't want to double 103 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 1: book or forget that this thing is happening. I also 104 00:05:57,120 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 1: want to put me on the calendar. I invite you 105 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:04,479 Speaker 1: to put yourself on the calendar. So let's open the books. 106 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 1: If I really look at twenty twenty six and figure 107 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 1: out where can we take some time off, whether that 108 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 1: is a staycation, whether you just want to stay in 109 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:14,919 Speaker 1: bed and watch whatever you want to watch on TV, 110 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:18,719 Speaker 1: whether you're going to travel. What is the time for 111 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:21,279 Speaker 1: you going to look like in twenty twenty six. I 112 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:24,039 Speaker 1: will also be participating in this and would love to 113 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:26,599 Speaker 1: hear where are you putting yourself on your calendar for 114 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:28,920 Speaker 1: twenty twenty six, because I think that is a very 115 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 1: important part about being more intentional about creating joy is 116 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 1: to make sure that we're putting it on the calendar. 117 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 1: While that is the first step, I think that sometimes 118 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 1: like weekends away or like staycations can sometimes feel too big, 119 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:49,679 Speaker 1: and so I also want to invite you to consider, 120 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 1: like what other small rituals for joy can you put 121 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 1: into your schedule. So something that I really enjoy is 122 00:06:56,920 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 1: like a walk at the end of my day. It 123 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 1: really helps me to kind of separate work from the 124 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:05,239 Speaker 1: rest of the day. Also gives me some movement I love, 125 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 1: especially when the weather is nice and it's getting nice 126 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 1: here in Georgia, so not too hot anymore, and so 127 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 1: a nice walk at the end of the day feels 128 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 1: like a joy filled moment for me. I also really 129 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 1: enjoy hula hooping. I think I've talked about that here 130 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:22,119 Speaker 1: on the podcast before, but sometimes I will just hula 131 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 1: hoop in the middle of my kitchen floor or dance 132 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 1: to whatever Beyonce's song I'm feeling at the moment, and 133 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 1: those are all joy filled moments for me. And so yes, 134 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 1: putting yourself on your calendar for like bigger things like 135 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 1: trips and vacations is important, but also what tiny moments 136 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 1: of joy are you also making a ritual for yourself 137 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 1: so that you have some things to look forward to 138 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 1: you and there are things that you can do for 139 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 1: yourself to make you smile. We recently interviewed doctor Judith Joseph, 140 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 1: who is a psychiatrist and the author of the book 141 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 1: High Functioning on the podcast, and she talked about joy 142 00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 1: being something that we have to actively and in tensionly 143 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 1: create and cultivate for ourselves. It's not something that happens passively. 144 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 1: It is not a passive activity. And so what kinds 145 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 1: of things can you actively do to create joy in 146 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 1: your life? So as we close I want to offer 147 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 1: you something for your journal. You know we love a 148 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 1: journaling exercise here, and I want you to think about 149 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 1: where in your life are you waiting for permission to rest? 150 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 1: Is it with the kids? Is it at work? Is 151 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:34,079 Speaker 1: it with your partner? Where are you waiting for permission 152 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 1: to rest? And what do you need to give yourself 153 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:43,199 Speaker 1: permission to do so? Very soon? This week, this month, 154 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 1: I invite you to choose joy first, not later, not 155 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 1: when it's convenient, not when you get around to it, 156 00:08:51,880 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 1: but right now, because you deserve it. I hope today's 157 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 1: conversation reminded you that rest is not a reward, it's 158 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 1: your right. You don't have to wait until you're burned 159 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:13,320 Speaker 1: out or overwhelmed to choose yourself. Your joy, your peace, 160 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:17,720 Speaker 1: and your rest are all worthy of being prioritized right now. 161 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:21,439 Speaker 1: A big thank you to Chase Fire Reserve for supporting 162 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 1: this important conversation. And if this episode resonated with you, 163 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 1: take a moment to share with a friend who might 164 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:30,839 Speaker 1: need the same reminder. We'll be back next week with 165 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 1: part two of our special series, where we'll talk about 166 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 1: how to navigate travel with friends, the expectations, the boundaries, 167 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:43,680 Speaker 1: and the beauty of shared experiences. Until then, take good 168 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 1: care