1 00:00:01,520 --> 00:00:06,520 Speaker 1: Welcome to episode. To Craig Morgan, it's just a fantastic interview. 2 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 1: He talks about going to the military, talks about being 3 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:12,120 Speaker 1: a country artist, his friendship with Blake, It's friendship with Gwen, 4 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:15,320 Speaker 1: living in a remote part of Alaska. It's just fantastic. 5 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:17,119 Speaker 1: So I do want to get to that pretty quick. 6 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:19,480 Speaker 1: But the top five releases this week in my mind, 7 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:23,479 Speaker 1: let's do this. At number five, cold Play has a 8 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 1: new song out called Higher Power. Listen. I love cold Play. 9 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:32,200 Speaker 1: Here's the clip of that song. But You've gotten higher? 10 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 1: Got to sing in every second? Don't sing everyhow got 11 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:44,239 Speaker 1: At number four, Miranda Lambert has released her album The 12 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 1: Marfa Tapes. Here's a new song called Waxa Hatchie. Is 13 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 1: that your hometown? That is my hometown? Yeah, so walk 14 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 1: is out of wax I said it wrong. How does 15 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 1: it feel to have a song about your hometown? I 16 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 1: love it? Dang, how can be there? What is there 17 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 1: to do in Walsa Hatchie? Nothing? Basically what she says 18 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 1: in the song go buy a thirty five? It's it. Well, 19 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 1: why do they make us write a song about it? 20 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:19,319 Speaker 1: I don't know. It's a funny, funny name of a town. 21 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 1: Funny name. It's if you're coming from Dallas, you go 22 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 1: right through it. But other than that, there's not much 23 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:25,760 Speaker 1: to do there. And that's crazy that you're twing. Got 24 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:28,760 Speaker 1: a song at number three, The Black Keys have a 25 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 1: new song They're back. It's called Going Down South Song. 26 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 1: And number two Brandon Ray has a new song out 27 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 1: called hold On Here you Go, hold On Still a 28 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 1: little bit longer, hold On you gotta be stronger, hold 29 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 1: On You're not hold On It's gonna get better. And 30 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 1: the number one Weezer has a new album called Band Wheezer. 31 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 1: It's their fifteenth album, and, as its title implies, band 32 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 1: Weezer is Weezer's take on hard rock, drawn from Van 33 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 1: Halen Ozzie Aerosmith. Here's a new song called I Need 34 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 1: Some of That, I Need Some of It's just I 35 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 1: do love Weezer so much so that I went on 36 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 1: a podcast recently as Weezer Expert. Really, what did you 37 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 1: talk about Weezer and my love of them and why 38 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 1: and the difference between the Blue Album and Pinkerton and 39 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 1: why people don't like Pinkerton and which is your favorite? 40 00:02:57,360 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 1: The Blue album? But I liked what Pinkerton anyway, just 41 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:01,359 Speaker 1: because everybody hated it when it came out, and I 42 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 1: was like, you guys are stupid. I love Weezer and 43 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:04,919 Speaker 1: I really didn't like it as much, but I said 44 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 1: I did. But now I like it even more, I 45 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 1: think because it's different than the Blue So but anyway, 46 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 1: we talked about that. Yeah, let's see albums out. Kenny 47 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:18,800 Speaker 1: Chesney's got a deluxe edition of Here and now Mighty 48 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 1: Mighty boss Tones have one. Van Morrison has latest record 49 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:25,399 Speaker 1: project Volume one. We were in their names ran out, 50 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 1: bb Rex has Better Mistakes, Stained has Live. It's been 51 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:34,119 Speaker 1: a while, get it there as once it's been uh 52 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 1: tickets to Bobby Fester on sell. Now we're doing one 53 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:41,880 Speaker 1: day festivals in two different cities, Whitewater Amphitheater, New Brombls, Texas, 54 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 1: which is between San Antonio and Austin, and then Wave 55 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 1: and which Tack Kansas. It will be us, the Raging Idiots, 56 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 1: Russell Dickerson's gonna play God, Maddie and Tay. It's gonna 57 00:03:57,520 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 1: be a big fun event for all day family. If 58 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 1: you want tickets, ticketmaster dot Com get tickets there. Ever, 59 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 1: Clearer is hitting the road with Living Color, Hubba Stank 60 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 1: and wedis love ever clire so ourt Alex's play recently 61 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 1: by himself songwriter show his voice is just not there. 62 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 1: I've seen him too recently. He just wasn't there. Thankfully, 63 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:16,920 Speaker 1: thank Yeah, it was really cool. Thankful the crowd knew 64 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 1: the songs. We'd sing them loud enough to help him. 65 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 1: But I would still go to this. It sounds fun. 66 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 1: Hooba Stank has the reason which is this song? Yeah, 67 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 1: crawling in the dark. Um we just had I'm just 68 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 1: a teenage Yeah. Do you have anything from Living Color? 69 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:43,840 Speaker 1: I do cult the personality, I know that, but I 70 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:47,280 Speaker 1: didn't know that. I mean i'd probably skip out. I'd 71 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 1: skip out in the Living Color part. There you go, 72 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 1: let's see. I think that's it. Thank you all. I 73 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 1: hope you enjoyed this interview with Craig Morrigan. It was fantastic. 74 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 1: If if you don't mind, go rate this thing all 75 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 1: the stars five five stars please. It helps us so much. 76 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:07,480 Speaker 1: You rate at five stars and you write some feedback. 77 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 1: It really does boost us up the charts, and we're grateful. 78 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:15,839 Speaker 1: Thank you. Enjoy I walked out of my house and 79 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 1: there was like a massive army jeep out there. If 80 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:21,919 Speaker 1: I were to see you drive up beside me and 81 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:26,040 Speaker 1: that thing, I would I would be scared because it 82 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 1: looks like that, like about four guys. A better start 83 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 1: peeling out of the back to fix a problem. That 84 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:32,480 Speaker 1: that's a jeep you drive somewhere when it's something to 85 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 1: fix a problem, or unless you're sitting in a ditch, 86 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 1: then you're happy to see me and pull I would 87 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:38,479 Speaker 1: agree with unless you have the problem. It's getting fixed. 88 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 1: If you're the problem getting fixed, it's a great vehicle 89 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 1: to see. If you're the problem, you don't want to 90 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:46,359 Speaker 1: see that truck and those guys. Is that a truck 91 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 1: that you did special stuff too? Or would you buy 92 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 1: it like that? We do a few special things. Man, 93 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 1: it's awesome. Like I was jealous. I saw it, and 94 00:05:53,960 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 1: I don't think I could pull off like a big man, 95 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:58,039 Speaker 1: even when you pulled up, even you pulled up to 96 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 1: the gate. Here, Mike, you know, the camera looks out 97 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 1: and I was looking over some notes for this here 98 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:07,600 Speaker 1: and it goes. I got a little note and I 99 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 1: hit it and it's Craig. But you don't see him 100 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 1: because it's so tall. You literally just see a black door. 101 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 1: It's like Bobby, I guess so you are. Okay, let 102 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 1: me let you know whatever. My wife can't hardly stand it, though, 103 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 1: she says, actually she calls it the wobbly shopping cart. 104 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 1: I was like, a wobble I think it drives like 105 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 1: a Cadillac, but but I've driven wobbly shopping carts, so yeah, 106 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 1: you know. I was coming over here a minute ago 107 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:34,359 Speaker 1: and I told Caitlin, who you met my fiance. I 108 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:37,159 Speaker 1: was like, hey, I'm going over to see ye like 109 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 1: we're both more than Bobby. Yeah, I said, um let 110 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 1: going over to see Craig. And she goes, hey, check 111 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 1: with him and see if that shirt he told me 112 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 1: about was real. And I was like which one. She 113 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 1: goes the one that said I'm the guy that had 114 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 1: all these songs? In fact, yes, she said, if he's 115 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 1: still making those, can you get me one? Oh, we 116 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 1: can definitely gets. But I told us that I think 117 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 1: he was joking. No, I really did a shirt that way. 118 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:01,039 Speaker 1: You have a shirt that says, well, on the on 119 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:02,720 Speaker 1: the front, it's got my picture I think is that 120 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:05,720 Speaker 1: my picture on it's got a silhouette? I mean on 121 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 1: the back it has a list of all the hits, 122 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 1: well not all of but this was early on, but 123 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 1: there's like ten hit songs and it says the guy 124 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 1: Craig Morgan, the guy who sings, and it lists the 125 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 1: songs she was because at that point in my career, 126 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 1: you know, a lot of people know the music, but 127 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 1: they still didn't really know who Craig Morgan was. So well, 128 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 1: was it, by the way, one of those shirts. I 129 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 1: want two of those shirts for me. I want for 130 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 1: her because we're both massive fans, and she, as much 131 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 1: as I like you, she may be a bigger fan 132 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 1: I was. I'm definitely gonna get you a shirt if 133 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 1: if you don't have to send one assuming that someone 134 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 1: wants something, because then it's to me, and then it 135 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 1: seems a little arrogant. Hey, I got you both of 136 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 1: you guys who have one. The how I found out, 137 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 1: I told you this story. But we were I think 138 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 1: we're in Arkansas. We were staying at the cabin over 139 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 1: that we have. We're there, like deep in the woods, 140 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 1: and we were listening to the conversation that I'm on 141 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 1: there and that's what I about. Sundays comes on and 142 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 1: she's singing it and I look over and she's still 143 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 1: singing it, and I look over and I'm like, you 144 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 1: know every word? She goes, oh, I know everywhere all 145 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 1: versus all that. And I was like, I said, you 146 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 1: know every word? She goes, yeah, everywhere. So I hit 147 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 1: record on my phone and say you her singing the 148 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 1: whole song? And I was like, do you like Craig Morgan? 149 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 1: And she goes, this is my favorite songs ever. I remember. 150 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 1: I remember when you said that, I think I may 151 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 1: have been an Alaska. You were an Alaska. Yeah. And 152 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 1: then because you followed up with a future you and 153 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 1: some huge animal in the snow, that was your response back. 154 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 1: You're like, and here I am with a big dead animal. 155 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:34,839 Speaker 1: What was it for you that actually started having people 156 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 1: pay attention to who Craig Morgan the artist? Wash It 157 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:43,320 Speaker 1: had to be, man, it was like four or five 158 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:49,200 Speaker 1: hits into it. Um. I mean, you know, obviously Almost 159 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 1: Home got the attention of the industry, but it wasn't 160 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 1: like I could go after even Almost Home. Um, that's 161 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 1: what I love about Sunday read at Yacht Club. Almost Home, though, 162 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:05,320 Speaker 1: if I remember correctly, wasn't a number one. No. It 163 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:07,680 Speaker 1: was like it went to number three on the charts 164 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 1: on one five on another. But it was a song 165 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:13,560 Speaker 1: that got a lot of attention. It was just a 166 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:16,200 Speaker 1: real country song. It was very long at the time. 167 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 1: Everyone thought it was too long for country radio. It 168 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 1: came on the charts, fell off the charts, came back 169 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 1: on the charts, and that's rare. Yeah, it was real rare. 170 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 1: And they said and in fact they changed after that 171 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 1: happened with that song is when they changed the whole 172 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 1: chart process because of that song. Was the chart process. 173 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:35,679 Speaker 1: You now that you can't come back on the chart. 174 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:40,560 Speaker 1: Can't you lose your bullet. You can't come back even 175 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 1: if you regain if you have the potential to regain 176 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 1: the bullet. And that's that was kind of what changed that. 177 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 1: So um and we had Redneck Yacht Club. I mean 178 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 1: it was a number one, you know, so I had 179 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 1: these huge hit and I think it was the following 180 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 1: single after Redneck. I remember walking through the airport and 181 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 1: Nashville people were looking at me. Uh. And I had 182 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 1: done at this point, we've done videos for all these 183 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 1: songs as well, so you know, those were marketing tools 184 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 1: in the time, especially, but I was I had done 185 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 1: some TV stuff and I remember walking through the airport 186 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:12,679 Speaker 1: and these people are looking at me, and I was 187 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 1: with my wife and I I mean after about the 188 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 1: fourth or fifth I literally looked down and I'm like, 189 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:23,080 Speaker 1: what is everyone looking at? And my wife looked at me, 190 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:28,200 Speaker 1: and she says, you're Craig Morgan, you idiot. Like That's 191 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:31,679 Speaker 1: when it hit me. He's like, Wow. Do you think 192 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:34,080 Speaker 1: it was people seeing you on something else and matching it, 193 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 1: matching the artist with the person they saw on TV? 194 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:38,839 Speaker 1: Or do you think it was just so many hits 195 00:10:39,240 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 1: that you were just present enough for people to start 196 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:44,560 Speaker 1: paying attention. I really don't know. I think it may 197 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 1: have been a combination of things. Uh. You know, I've 198 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:51,079 Speaker 1: been very fortunate to have hits over the years, label 199 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 1: after label, um, but but I also managed to do 200 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 1: a lot of other things too. I'm always fascinated when 201 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:01,079 Speaker 1: I do a show, especially now, you know, twenty almost 202 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 1: twenty years later, and go how many people see me 203 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 1: for the first time and all these people raise their hands. 204 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:07,080 Speaker 1: I'm like, holy cow, man, I've been in this twenty years. 205 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 1: And and and then I'll talk to people and they go, yeah, man, 206 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 1: I've never heard of you, and I've seen you on 207 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:16,320 Speaker 1: Risolian isles and I googled you or I seen you 208 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:19,200 Speaker 1: on Nowadays now it's like, you know, I've seen you 209 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:22,560 Speaker 1: on Facebook or I've seen you with something. It's always 210 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:26,080 Speaker 1: weird they see me in a different um arena of 211 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 1: some sort and then they google me and they find out, oh, well, 212 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 1: I'm I like this song, I like country, this was 213 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 1: my What's really weird is when they find you and 214 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 1: they go, oh my gosh, Almost Home was my favorite song, 215 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:40,319 Speaker 1: always has been. But they never knew that they get 216 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:43,319 Speaker 1: didn't match it. Yeah, So it's taken a long time 217 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 1: for me, unlike a lot of people who it happens 218 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 1: right up front, you know, for me, it's taken a 219 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:50,320 Speaker 1: long time to put it all together. Did you ever 220 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:52,439 Speaker 1: have those meetings? I'm sure you had the meetings, but 221 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:54,439 Speaker 1: I guess what were those meetings like early on because 222 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 1: I've had them too. Where they go, all right, we 223 00:11:56,880 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 1: need to front face you with what people are gonna 224 00:11:58,880 --> 00:11:59,959 Speaker 1: know about you the most, Like are you gonna be 225 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 1: the redneck guy, You're gonna be a military guy, You're 226 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:03,840 Speaker 1: gonna be the dad like where they kind of go, 227 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 1: all right, who what are we shooting for here? Early on? 228 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 1: What were those meetings like for you? Uh? Do you 229 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 1: wear a hat. Uh, there was a lot of calcoy 230 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 1: hat ball cap you know. I I mean I got a 231 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 1: ball cap on now, but I don't always wear a cap. 232 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 1: In fact, I used to be the anti hat guy 233 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 1: because I wanted everyone to know that I had hair, 234 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 1: you know, and you still do. Yeah, and I still 235 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 1: do have hair, um and you know, but still to 236 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:31,520 Speaker 1: this day, we still have those conversations. The management that 237 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 1: I'm with and have been with now for about six years. Uh. 238 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 1: That was the one thing I told them up front, 239 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:39,720 Speaker 1: your job is gonna be very difficult because I'm not 240 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:43,560 Speaker 1: one guy. This is not my whole life. My whole 241 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:47,720 Speaker 1: life don't revolve around singing country music. I love singing 242 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:50,720 Speaker 1: and writing music. I love it, and I love country 243 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:54,319 Speaker 1: music with everything fiber that's in me. But I also 244 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:59,280 Speaker 1: love riding dirt bikes. I also love being in the outdoors. 245 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:02,560 Speaker 1: I also of working with law enforcement. These are things 246 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 1: that I do and I'm going to continue to do. 247 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 1: So I'm not gonna not do those things in order 248 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 1: to make your job easier. So that I am that 249 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 1: one guy. Uh. So they you know, it's it's tough. 250 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 1: It's tough for them, and I respect that. I understand it, 251 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 1: but I don't care. It's I'm not gonna stop being 252 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 1: who I am in order that I might become more famous, 253 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Did they ever try to 254 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 1: make you a hat act? Oh? Yeah, I got pictures 255 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:28,319 Speaker 1: of me in the cowboy hat? Was that because they said, hey, 256 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:29,680 Speaker 1: we think you should wear one, or you're like, you 257 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 1: know what, Sometimes I wear one? Uh? It was a 258 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:34,200 Speaker 1: little bit of both. They asked me if I would 259 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 1: wear it, and I'm like, yeah, you don't do it 260 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 1: the house. Sometimes. It ain't really a cowboy hat because 261 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 1: I ain't no cowboy, but it's a western hat that 262 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:43,840 Speaker 1: I use on the farm. If I'm on my tractor, 263 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 1: sometimes I'll wear it. Uh. And it's dirty and nasty, 264 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 1: But okay, well what if we got you a new one? 265 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 1: So I mean I tried. I did some of those 266 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 1: things early in my career. I wanted to do what 267 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 1: I needed to do, uh, and not just to be successful, 268 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 1: but but I wanted to I wanted to do the 269 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:05,080 Speaker 1: right things, you know. And I didn't know. So I 270 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 1: trusted the opinions of all of these supposedly smart people. 271 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 1: And and I ain't gonna say that I I didn't 272 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 1: compromise any of my beliefs or values. I mean, it's 273 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 1: like putting on a different pair of genes, you know. 274 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 1: I mean, if you think those genes look better on me, 275 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 1: that's the ones I'm gonna wear. I can't see my ass, 276 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 1: So if you think my ass looks good and those, 277 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 1: that's the ones I wear. Yeah. And it's not like 278 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 1: you don't own the genes. Yeah, they just think those 279 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 1: genes are appropriate genes to wear for this in the 280 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 1: season of your life. Same with the hat, you know. 281 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 1: And and I don't like I see guys now that 282 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 1: you know that I've watched some of these acts that 283 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 1: have come up. You know, that's why I love some 284 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 1: of these guys that they just don't care. Man. I 285 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 1: love that because I was kind of that guy. I 286 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 1: didn't really care, but I did enough to to try 287 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 1: to do what they would ask me to do. You know, 288 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 1: instead of saying no, I wasn't a no, I'm this 289 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 1: guy and I'm not stray from you know, because I'm like, 290 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 1: I don't know who am I to tell these people 291 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 1: that have been in business for twenty years that that 292 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 1: I'm not wearing It's not good for me to wear 293 00:15:02,880 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 1: a hat in a photo. I don't have to wear 294 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 1: it all the time, And that's what they said, don't 295 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 1: wear it all the time, don't. You don't have to 296 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 1: wear these shoes all the time. You have to wear 297 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 1: this whatever. But we'd like you to try these things. Sure, 298 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 1: I'll try, you know. But some of these guys, now, man, whatever, 299 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 1: you know, I'm just gonna sing yea, you know, and 300 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 1: I love that, and that ends up kind of being 301 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 1: their thing, it really. I mean, Luke Holmes and his 302 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 1: Dan whatever them holy shoes are the Crocs. I hate Crocs, man, 303 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 1: I'll never have a Croc deal now that I've said that, 304 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 1: you know, I actually wear Crocs, but I don't wear 305 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 1: the rubbering ones. They make some really cool looking uh like, yeah, 306 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 1: I have Croc slides. Yeah. When you were a kid, 307 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 1: who was it that you listened to a lot that 308 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 1: made you go, dang, like music is actually cool. Not 309 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 1: I don't want to pursue music, but you're just like, damn, 310 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 1: I'd really like listening to this person. Uh well, I 311 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 1: mean I listened to a lot of different things, but 312 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 1: there there was a couple of in particular that really 313 00:15:56,840 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 1: influenced me that I heard him and I went, man, 314 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 1: I love this line. Ritchie always loved listening to Lina Richie, 315 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 1: Luther Van Dross, John Connley. I know there's a big spectrum, 316 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 1: they're a big change, but uh uh and then later 317 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 1: on like Garth, you know. But I also loved Randy Travis. 318 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 1: I loved. Uh. I like Jim ed Brown. I love 319 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:21,680 Speaker 1: some of some of the Jim ed Brown stuff that 320 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 1: I heard my dad listening to. I enjoyed that. But 321 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 1: for me personally, it was James Taylor, Luther Van dross 322 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 1: Um and then in the country round John Connley, Lee Greenwood, 323 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 1: some of that Randy Travis. I just loved Randy Travis stuff. 324 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:41,239 Speaker 1: You know. So it was a little bit of everything. 325 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 1: I loved music, but it had to be a song 326 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:48,400 Speaker 1: that I that uh told a great story. Uh, I 327 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 1: don't know. I liked and and melodies were important to me. 328 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 1: I liked a good melody, um, but it had to 329 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 1: tell a story. I wasn't just a you know, you're 330 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 1: just like a a hook. I wasn't looking for a hook. 331 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:04,480 Speaker 1: You want to catch a chorus, you need to catch Yeah, 332 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:06,639 Speaker 1: But I didn't know. I mean, I was just a 333 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:08,640 Speaker 1: guy listening to music. Did you ever have a chance 334 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 1: to meet Lionel I did. It was I was very 335 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:14,200 Speaker 1: nice man. Yeah, I work with a now in American idol. Yeah, 336 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 1: I spent for you and he is lovelier than he 337 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:19,960 Speaker 1: should have to be. Yeah, you know, I'm I got 338 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:23,200 Speaker 1: so frustrated because I love Lina Richie and I only 339 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 1: met him in Passing in an award show and he 340 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:29,679 Speaker 1: was very polite, very kind. Uh. But it's like I 341 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 1: I grew up listening and loving Lina Richie. Like for me, 342 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 1: music is impacting at different times in our life in 343 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:39,160 Speaker 1: different people. Like I'm a big fan of Skip Youing. 344 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:40,959 Speaker 1: A lot of people don't even know who Skip Youing is, 345 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:43,200 Speaker 1: but I loved his music and it was important to 346 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:45,119 Speaker 1: me because it came to me at the time of 347 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 1: life when I was in Panama in nineteen nine for 348 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 1: the outsting of Manuel Antonio Noriega. So after the war 349 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:53,359 Speaker 1: was over, you know, we were riding around through this 350 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 1: battered up country and I'm listening to Skip Youing records. 351 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:58,440 Speaker 1: So that music stuck with me because of what was 352 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:00,360 Speaker 1: going on in my life. The same thing with Lina 353 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:04,080 Speaker 1: Richie a little later on in my life, and I 354 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 1: sang liner reachings, why I'm e And you know, I 355 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 1: felt like I love to sing that kind of stuff, 356 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:13,680 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, everybody's freaking singing with line Richie. 357 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:17,119 Speaker 1: But me, I like the skegee, Come on, this is 358 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:22,479 Speaker 1: my thing. You know. Well, he he is a wonderful yes, 359 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:26,119 Speaker 1: and it's pulled me aside and giving me advice privately 360 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 1: so many times that you're like, he's also a guy 361 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:30,439 Speaker 1: that's been famous for so long he doesn't know what 362 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:33,440 Speaker 1: it's like to not be famous anymore. Yeah, but still 363 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:36,200 Speaker 1: just a wonderful guy. But I'll be frustrated to it 364 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:38,160 Speaker 1: became to talent and he's like your guy, and then 365 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:39,920 Speaker 1: he's like, I'm gonna do a song with my girl. 366 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:42,240 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do a song with it. You know, um 367 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:43,639 Speaker 1: what I get it. You know, I went at a 368 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:46,119 Speaker 1: point in my career where you know that could should 369 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 1: or could happen. You know, you did maybe on our 370 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 1: show you did easy Yeah, I think you played that. 371 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:54,480 Speaker 1: Could you sing that back? It just kind of hits me. 372 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 1: I think you can't play that on the radio show 373 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 1: one time. But I just love it. Man, all of 374 00:18:57,840 --> 00:18:59,679 Speaker 1: his stuff, I mean, there wasn't much that he did that, 375 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:03,120 Speaker 1: I did like and he was he was really good 376 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 1: whether at delivering the material. Those songs were great. They 377 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 1: told stories and the melodies were phenomenal. So I remember. 378 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:15,720 Speaker 1: It's funny you mentioned certain music that reminds you of 379 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 1: certain times. And I read this book once. It talks about, 380 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:22,960 Speaker 1: you know, if we were at in a traumatic part 381 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:27,679 Speaker 1: of life and there's a certain album or song that 382 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:30,879 Speaker 1: we're hearing a lot, it triggers a chemical in the 383 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:32,359 Speaker 1: brain just for a split second. It gives us that 384 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 1: feeling like we're in that spot. And when you mentioned that, 385 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 1: I think back to, like I read ho Chili Peppers 386 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 1: album more like getting kicked out of a trailer, but 387 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:43,280 Speaker 1: we know we're getting we're basically getting evicted of a trailer. 388 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:46,360 Speaker 1: But I remember listening to that album so much, that 389 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:50,159 Speaker 1: Blood Sugar, Sex Magic album Chili Peppers that when you 390 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:51,720 Speaker 1: said that, I was like, oh yeah, I mean right now, 391 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:53,480 Speaker 1: I can think of Red Hot Chili Peppers. I can 392 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:57,160 Speaker 1: think of moving in with my grandma in like sixth 393 00:19:57,200 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 1: grade when Don't Take the Girl was this was a 394 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 1: and I would turn like Kissing Night he said to 395 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 1: be on all the time. But like when I hear 396 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 1: that song. It triggers that spot again, like moving back 397 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 1: here with my grandma. Yeah, six years sixth grade. What 398 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 1: a wonderful thing. Huh yeah, not so wonderful sometimes, no, 399 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:14,359 Speaker 1: but wonderful that music can do. Yes, it can. Because 400 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:16,679 Speaker 1: I'll hear Accounting Crows album and think about being in 401 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:18,639 Speaker 1: college when I was broke. But I was it was 402 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:20,960 Speaker 1: the greatest time in my life because I was going 403 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:22,159 Speaker 1: I have my whole feature ahead of me. I know 404 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 1: what I don't want to do. I'm gonna go tackle this, 405 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:25,119 Speaker 1: but would go play Ken Good junior baseball and not 406 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:28,159 Speaker 1: all night long with this Counting Crows album on. But 407 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:31,359 Speaker 1: music has the ability to do that almost transcend us 408 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:33,399 Speaker 1: in a way. Yeah, and you know being on this 409 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:35,440 Speaker 1: side of it now, because I remember being on that side. 410 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:37,200 Speaker 1: I remember being on the side of listening to music 411 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:40,120 Speaker 1: and then in my life time would pass and hear 412 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 1: a song and go oh, and like you said, it 413 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:46,680 Speaker 1: just instantly, I can vividly see everything that's going on 414 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:49,680 Speaker 1: in that time that passed. Now I'm on the other side, 415 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:52,880 Speaker 1: and it's super weird for me to have people come 416 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 1: up and talk about how songs that I have sang 417 00:20:57,320 --> 00:20:59,959 Speaker 1: take them to certain places and how it triggers them 418 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 1: and emotionally, you know. And for me, that's just fascinating, 419 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 1: and I'm always a little taken back by it and 420 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 1: a little dumbfounded by it. Like, you know, I'm not 421 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:11,439 Speaker 1: that guy. I'm not the memory maker. I'm not the 422 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 1: you know, but I am. Yeah, I gotta imagine too. 423 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 1: That's what I love about Sunday does that with a 424 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 1: lot of people, because even with me, it makes me 425 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:23,720 Speaker 1: think about Mountain Pine, Arkansas. Maybe the characters aren't exactly 426 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:26,400 Speaker 1: the same, but you know, when you're from a small town, yeah, 427 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:29,119 Speaker 1: the characters are kind of all the same because that's 428 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:33,119 Speaker 1: just life in a rural part of America. Dude. I 429 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:35,359 Speaker 1: sing that song, and I have sang it for many years, 430 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:37,159 Speaker 1: but to this day, I can sing that song and 431 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:41,200 Speaker 1: if I close my eyes, I can see my house, uh, 432 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:43,720 Speaker 1: you know, with the swing on the front porch, kids 433 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 1: in the yard. I can see all of those things, 434 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 1: my mom next door, you know. I mean, there's things 435 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 1: in that song for me too, and I'm the guy 436 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:53,400 Speaker 1: that's saying there. But that's those are rare. I gotta 437 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 1: be honest. I think those songs that are that impacting, uh, 438 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:01,399 Speaker 1: they're just not That's not every song And that doesn't 439 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 1: mean that every song is that you know, that's the 440 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 1: number one isn't a great song, but but not every 441 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 1: number one does that, right, well, not every number one 442 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 1: is actually good and lasts more than you know, a 443 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:14,840 Speaker 1: chart run. That's why when we talk about you know, 444 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 1: almost Home, a song that I just thinking, you're sending 445 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 1: that writer's room and you're all right, I'm a homeless guy. 446 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:22,480 Speaker 1: I'm asleep, I'm dreaming about almost being back home, you know, 447 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:24,480 Speaker 1: a guy in a bad situation. You wake me up. 448 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:27,879 Speaker 1: It's like, oh God, I go like, how does that 449 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:33,360 Speaker 1: concept even come up? And then it's fruition to get 450 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:35,800 Speaker 1: recorded to be a single, Like there's so many steps 451 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:38,920 Speaker 1: for that song, but it all starts with somebody in 452 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 1: the room going all right, like what what what happened 453 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 1: in that room with that song? Uh? Me and carry 454 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 1: Kurt Phillips, I was actually this song started. I was 455 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:48,159 Speaker 1: on the road and uh we were doing a lot 456 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:49,959 Speaker 1: of shows that year, and my wife had called me. 457 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 1: And this was early on, you know, early on in 458 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:55,440 Speaker 1: my career. But we were doing so and and and 459 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 1: at this time, they weren't like big paying shows. But 460 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 1: we're doing a lot of radio stuff to promote not 461 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:04,720 Speaker 1: just the music but Craig Morgan and let people know 462 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:06,239 Speaker 1: who I am, because, by the way, it doesn't pay 463 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:09,480 Speaker 1: at all. No, so we're literally doing visiting radio station 464 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 1: three sometimes three a day. Uh. And I was calling 465 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:14,359 Speaker 1: her on the way home and she said, you know, 466 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:17,920 Speaker 1: she was actually griping because I early on I thought 467 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:20,400 Speaker 1: for some reason, I told her. She says, I told 468 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:22,159 Speaker 1: her this. I don't recall it. She said, I told her, Look, 469 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 1: I promise you I won't do over ten days at 470 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 1: a time. I'll come home for a few days. I mean, 471 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 1: we had kids, you know, we had a life and everything. 472 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:29,960 Speaker 1: And I guess I've been gone for more than ten days. 473 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:32,159 Speaker 1: And she was complaining. I said, look, just relaxed, it 474 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 1: won't be long. I'm almost I'm like, oh, that's a 475 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:38,400 Speaker 1: great idea. So I remember writing it down and thinking 476 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:40,159 Speaker 1: about it, and I come back, had a writing session 477 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:42,399 Speaker 1: with Carrie and I told carry the idea and we 478 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 1: started writing on it. And three months. It literally took 479 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:46,639 Speaker 1: a long time because I was going in and out 480 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 1: of town so much. But every time I would come 481 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:50,239 Speaker 1: in and we would write, we would write on it, 482 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:52,119 Speaker 1: and I was coming. I was going over there one 483 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 1: day and I've seen an old guy on the side 484 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:56,199 Speaker 1: of the road. Then they're holding up a sign, literally 485 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:58,480 Speaker 1: was holding up a sign that uh, A lady was 486 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:01,439 Speaker 1: holding up to sign for said pregnant it need food 487 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:04,800 Speaker 1: something like that, and he had marked out pregnant need food. 488 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:07,240 Speaker 1: And I told Carry and I said, I've seen this guy. 489 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 1: Would the sign And I said that guy was almost home, 490 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:12,640 Speaker 1: and Carry said stop the boat and we finished that song. 491 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:16,720 Speaker 1: It was it took that long and that actual thing 492 00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 1: happening in the situation. Okay, so the song is written, 493 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 1: but now you gotta decide what you're gonna cut. So 494 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 1: here's the favorite thing about this song from me, for 495 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:29,880 Speaker 1: of all the stories of any song I've written there 496 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:34,199 Speaker 1: yet we've had. I was leaving the session and I 497 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:36,600 Speaker 1: felt really good about this song and I'm just kind 498 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:39,720 Speaker 1: of singing it to myself. When we did a work tape, uh, 499 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 1: and you know then I think it was a cassette. 500 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 1: And so I had the cassette tape and I had 501 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 1: a jeep, I had an O wrangler, and I was 502 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 1: playing it back and forth and going down the highway 503 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:51,040 Speaker 1: and Phil o'donn'll Phil Billy called me and he goes, hey, 504 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 1: how did it go with Carrie? And I said, man, 505 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:54,680 Speaker 1: we finished the song and he said, well, tell me 506 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:56,680 Speaker 1: about it. So I read him the verse, read him, 507 00:24:56,680 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 1: didn't sing it to him. I read no reality spoken, 508 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 1: or the verse and the course. And he said, well, 509 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:04,399 Speaker 1: how does it going? Does it? You know? I just 510 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:09,680 Speaker 1: climbed out of a cotton woods tree. I was running 511 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 1: from some honeyy and I kind of sang a little 512 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 1: bit of the melony a little different than what I 513 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 1: ended up with. And he goes, hey, let's hear. He goes, 514 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 1: you know that forty acres that I have that you've 515 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:23,200 Speaker 1: been wanting over in Hickman County. I said, yea. He said, 516 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:26,879 Speaker 1: I'll give you that forty acres for half of your publishing. 517 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 1: I'm not making any of this up half of your 518 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:32,400 Speaker 1: publishing period, of everything or that for that song, that song. 519 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:35,720 Speaker 1: He said, I'll give you that forty acres for half 520 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:38,200 Speaker 1: of the publishing on that song. And I said, Phil, 521 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:40,640 Speaker 1: I can't do that to you, dude. There ain't no way, man. 522 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:43,600 Speaker 1: Uh you know it's I just I can't do that 523 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:49,119 Speaker 1: to you. It wouldn't be fair, thank God. So you know, 524 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:52,200 Speaker 1: low and behold, we end up tracking it. I remember 525 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 1: taking it the label, and the label tells a completely 526 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 1: different story. They say that I came in and played 527 00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 1: it for him, and they're like, oh, this is gonna 528 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:01,440 Speaker 1: be a hit. That is not what happened. Revision his 529 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 1: history on their part. Yeah, So I go in, I 530 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:06,320 Speaker 1: play it for him, and they're like, I don't know, 531 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:10,200 Speaker 1: it's awful long, that it's extremely country. I will say, 532 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:12,920 Speaker 1: in John Loebe's defense, the head of Broken Boat or 533 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:14,639 Speaker 1: actually was head of a and rn't Broken Boath at 534 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:17,119 Speaker 1: the time. He promotions, he was head of promotion. Just 535 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 1: you know, this is two thousand two two because this 536 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 1: was all three when it came out late oh two. 537 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:28,119 Speaker 1: And he says, uh, man, I think I think we 538 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:31,679 Speaker 1: can make this work. It's just just country and just 539 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 1: different enough that I think, you know, And he was 540 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:37,159 Speaker 1: he was confident song. But others at the labor like, 541 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 1: it's too long, it's too country. You know, We've got 542 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 1: other things, other songs that we think will do better, 543 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:45,040 Speaker 1: and blah blah blah. And I'm like, hey, look, you know, 544 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:47,480 Speaker 1: I mean a Nanim's decision kind of guy, you know, 545 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:50,520 Speaker 1: there's no way I'm gonna say this is it, and 546 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:53,399 Speaker 1: everyone else says it ain't, so we have to collectively agree. 547 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:56,399 Speaker 1: So we fought around about it, and finally John's with 548 00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 1: not telling anyone. He took this song and he went 549 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 1: to Ooxville to w i v K hitting w V kid, 550 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 1: I don't know some one of the country stations out 551 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:09,040 Speaker 1: in Knoxville, not the one I'm on, an I suppose 552 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:13,639 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna come in so uh, but this is 553 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:16,919 Speaker 1: a long time ago too, you know, and he literally, uh, 554 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:20,640 Speaker 1: they wouldn't even see. So he sets up a tent 555 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:24,960 Speaker 1: in the front yard of the radio station. He set 556 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:27,640 Speaker 1: up a tent in the front yard. He camped out 557 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:30,800 Speaker 1: there for three days. Well, he literally came there, literally 558 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:34,879 Speaker 1: camped out. Three days later, they finally talked to him 559 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:38,320 Speaker 1: and they played the song, and that was the beginning 560 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:41,800 Speaker 1: of the history making of that song. He believed in 561 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 1: that song so much he camped out for three days 562 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:46,000 Speaker 1: three days. So, like I said, I gotta give John 563 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:47,920 Speaker 1: Lobo credit because he's the one that really fought for 564 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:50,119 Speaker 1: that in the beginning. And then it just became it 565 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:53,399 Speaker 1: just blew up, and I remember thinking, oh cool, we 566 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:55,239 Speaker 1: gotta hit you know, what's the next song gonna be? 567 00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 1: And that's kind of what I mean. It's terrible, but 568 00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:59,440 Speaker 1: it's kind of where my head was, you know, and 569 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:00,879 Speaker 1: and it is, it's already work at this And then 570 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:02,640 Speaker 1: it fell off the charts, or it didn't really fall 571 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 1: off the charts. It had an increase in spins, but 572 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 1: for some reason it lost its bullet and there was 573 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 1: a big discussion, you know about the chart about oh, 574 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:11,960 Speaker 1: it's got to not come off, it's got to stay 575 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:13,760 Speaker 1: on and all this stuff. And so I didn't really 576 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:15,399 Speaker 1: pay much attention. I'm just like, I just let me 577 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:16,960 Speaker 1: know where we're at, let me know what's going on, 578 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 1: what I need to do. You know, I'm here for 579 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:22,000 Speaker 1: the job. Uh, anything I can do support it, that 580 00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 1: kind of thing. And all of a sudden they tell me, hey, 581 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:27,240 Speaker 1: it's got his bullet back, and um, it never lost spins, 582 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 1: but I don't know, something weird happened. I would imagine 583 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:32,879 Speaker 1: a big deal. I would imagine that audience went down 584 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:35,200 Speaker 1: because there are a couple of big stations that probably 585 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:37,879 Speaker 1: played it less, but other stations played it more. So 586 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,000 Speaker 1: spins went up and a bit of audience went down. Yes, 587 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:41,960 Speaker 1: it was one of those, was one of those, and 588 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 1: back then it was there was a lot of questions 589 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:46,600 Speaker 1: as to what, you know, how that managed to stay 590 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 1: on the charts. And because it's different, you know, songs 591 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 1: went on the charts and up and down. Back then, 592 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:54,440 Speaker 1: they didn't stay like you know, all of a sudden 593 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 1: between that song and uh International Harvester, where a song 594 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 1: would be on the Church Art for you know, oh 595 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:05,840 Speaker 1: my gosh, forty weeks. It was insane. You know, it 596 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:08,200 Speaker 1: was terrible how long the song would stay on UM. 597 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 1: But it ended up, you know, going back up again, 598 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:15,560 Speaker 1: and it just became this huge, huge hit which today 599 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 1: is probably still one of my biggest songs. When I 600 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:20,800 Speaker 1: do a show, I'm I'm fascinated to look out to 601 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:23,840 Speaker 1: the crowd and there's a kids singing every lyric to 602 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:27,800 Speaker 1: the song that wasn't alive when that song was released. Yeah, 603 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:30,360 Speaker 1: that song. That's what I love about Sunday. To me, 604 00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:33,240 Speaker 1: I see more than that song. But that song hits 605 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:36,880 Speaker 1: me harder than than anything you've ever done, you know, 606 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:40,760 Speaker 1: and they all have different It's funny. What's really funny too, 607 00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:44,600 Speaker 1: from what I've experienced, is it can be different regionally. 608 00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:48,000 Speaker 1: You know, International Harvester in the Midwest maybe one of 609 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,800 Speaker 1: my biggest songs. It's crazy out there. I mean there's 610 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:53,720 Speaker 1: people riding around with you know, my name on their 611 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:56,959 Speaker 1: tractors and crap because they're so into that song, you know. 612 00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:01,360 Speaker 1: But of all the songs, the song that I personally 613 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:05,320 Speaker 1: received the most response from through all that, and I 614 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:06,520 Speaker 1: think a lot of that has to do with the 615 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 1: fact that we now have a social media platform that 616 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:11,680 Speaker 1: we didn't have in two thousand two. You know, all 617 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 1: of the outlets that we now have, we didn't have them, 618 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 1: so we didn't have the opportunity to give utilize that 619 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 1: and to communicate that way. Uh and now we do. 620 00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 1: But The Father and Son the Holy Ghost, I have 621 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:28,920 Speaker 1: experienced more response, more stories than any song I've ever released. 622 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:32,040 Speaker 1: It's just been amazing. I would imagine the more you 623 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:36,440 Speaker 1: put yourself out there, the more people relate. And because 624 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:41,960 Speaker 1: tragedy lead to that song and so you going. And 625 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 1: I learned a bit about this when I wrote my 626 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 1: first book, because I talked before my mom died in 627 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:49,440 Speaker 1: a forties from you know, drug addiction and alcohol, and 628 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:51,600 Speaker 1: I wrote on my first book a lot of struggle 629 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:53,120 Speaker 1: before she died that I had, and I was very 630 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 1: vulnerable about my situation, her situation, in our situation, and 631 00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 1: I thought, no one's going to relate to this. People 632 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:01,560 Speaker 1: if I don't, people fel sorry for me. But I don't. 633 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 1: I don't want that. But what happened was people went hey, 634 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:08,080 Speaker 1: like I felt that, Like I'm glad you said that 635 00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:10,880 Speaker 1: because I feel that, and it was that to me 636 00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:12,760 Speaker 1: was such an awakening. And I have to imagine with 637 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 1: you being extremely vulnerable with the song about something so 638 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:19,400 Speaker 1: close to you that people had to go I felt like, 639 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:21,600 Speaker 1: thank you, because I feel the same way about something 640 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:24,480 Speaker 1: in my life, almost verbatim what you're saying. That's the 641 00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:27,760 Speaker 1: that's the verbiage they use. I feel exactly what you're 642 00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:29,760 Speaker 1: saying in my life, and I'm glad that you were 643 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:32,280 Speaker 1: able to do that. It helps me in the same 644 00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:33,960 Speaker 1: way that you're talking about doing it with your book. 645 00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 1: And that's that's difficult. It's really hard for any of 646 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:41,880 Speaker 1: us as humans to be so vulnerable because it hurts, 647 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:45,000 Speaker 1: and it hurts every time. It's scary. It is. It's 648 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:48,800 Speaker 1: scary to be so vulnerable. But at the same time, 649 00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:53,160 Speaker 1: when you I know I can say this now having 650 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:56,200 Speaker 1: done it in that situation and I'm not I'm not 651 00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:58,600 Speaker 1: doing it and everything that's happened in my life, but 652 00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:01,000 Speaker 1: I'm able to do it with that for whatever reason, 653 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:04,600 Speaker 1: and I can say I feel like I did the 654 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:09,640 Speaker 1: right thing it even though it hurts and the story's 655 00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:12,440 Speaker 1: hammer me, man, I mean it just it breaks my 656 00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:16,640 Speaker 1: heart to hear them sometimes. But but I know that 657 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:18,560 Speaker 1: I know that, I know that, I know that it 658 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:21,120 Speaker 1: was the right thing because it helped that person and 659 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:24,719 Speaker 1: my pain, it's my whatever I may be dealing with 660 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:27,000 Speaker 1: at that time when I'm reading it is what I'm 661 00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:29,160 Speaker 1: supposed to experience in order to help other people. I 662 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:32,520 Speaker 1: think that's the way it is. You know, we're as 663 00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:35,400 Speaker 1: a human race. Sometimes we have to hurt to help others. 664 00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:37,920 Speaker 1: That's just the way it is, and we should do that. 665 00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:39,880 Speaker 1: We should be willing to do that. That's what I think. 666 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:42,520 Speaker 1: That's the problem with our society now. Nobody is willing 667 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:45,600 Speaker 1: to hurt to help. And it's okay, it's okay to 668 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:47,360 Speaker 1: hurt to help a little bit. And when I say hurt, 669 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:51,480 Speaker 1: be hungry, uh to help those who are more hungry 670 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:54,640 Speaker 1: or you know, do a lot without something. And everybody 671 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:56,480 Speaker 1: that's listing with probably, so it's easy for you to 672 00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:59,160 Speaker 1: say you know you've been you're successful, but you don't know. 673 00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:01,040 Speaker 1: I don't know where where are we hurt? And so 674 00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:03,440 Speaker 1: I don't question anyone else's hurt. You know the I 675 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:05,880 Speaker 1: know billionaires, but I know they have pain, and I 676 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,040 Speaker 1: know they hurt, and I know that they help others 677 00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:12,040 Speaker 1: through that sometimes. So you know, because I'm gonna asking 678 00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:13,840 Speaker 1: really dumb question in a second to make up for this, 679 00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:17,560 Speaker 1: but you know, I've seen you perform that song alive 680 00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:19,560 Speaker 1: a couple of times. And I know at times when 681 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:23,000 Speaker 1: I'm speaking and I have to speak about my mom 682 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:27,360 Speaker 1: or my grandmother or tragedy in my life, like every time, 683 00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:31,280 Speaker 1: I have to fight off the hurt. And sometimes I'm 684 00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:35,400 Speaker 1: good at it, and honestly, sometimes I'm not. Amen. And 685 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:39,000 Speaker 1: so when you have to sing this song and it's 686 00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:43,040 Speaker 1: about your son that passed away, does it feel different 687 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:45,200 Speaker 1: every time? Are you fighting it off every time? Or 688 00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:47,920 Speaker 1: is it does it like how just in your mind, 689 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:50,360 Speaker 1: in your head, what what's happening? I have to fight 690 00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:54,240 Speaker 1: it every time, even now I'm discussing it. My chest hurt. 691 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,520 Speaker 1: The same thing. Everyone has a t everybody that has 692 00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:00,840 Speaker 1: experienced some sort of tragedy, has that same I think 693 00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:03,560 Speaker 1: has that same feeling. Our feelings, our emotions, our reactions, 694 00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:06,320 Speaker 1: all those things are a little different. But that physical, 695 00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:10,000 Speaker 1: that literal physical feeling is I think kind of the 696 00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:12,040 Speaker 1: same for all us. It makes your chest hurt, Like 697 00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:14,800 Speaker 1: talking about it, my chest hurt, and you have to 698 00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:17,240 Speaker 1: breathe a little deeper, you know, to kind of calm 699 00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:21,000 Speaker 1: that heartache or whatever. Um. But I have to fight 700 00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:24,120 Speaker 1: all time. Sometimes I can't, I reckon. I've gotten to 701 00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:25,920 Speaker 1: the point now I can recognize that I know that 702 00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:28,960 Speaker 1: if I'm really tired, if I haven't rested well before show, 703 00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:30,920 Speaker 1: there's no way I'll be able to do it. And 704 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:32,600 Speaker 1: so there's times I won't. I just don't do the 705 00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:35,120 Speaker 1: song because I know there's no way I'll finish it. 706 00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:38,080 Speaker 1: And and and my guys have they they know me 707 00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:40,799 Speaker 1: well enough now to know that there's no way he's 708 00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:43,480 Speaker 1: gonna do it. He's just not in the emotional and 709 00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:45,880 Speaker 1: not that I'm not in a good state. You know, 710 00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:49,120 Speaker 1: we all have the ability to overcome and adapt and improvise. 711 00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:51,840 Speaker 1: And I can throw a lot of military terms at you, um, 712 00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:53,799 Speaker 1: But for me, in that particularly, I don't have to. 713 00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:57,799 Speaker 1: So I'm not going to force myself to, uh, to 714 00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:01,480 Speaker 1: endure that when I know the the outcome is outcome 715 00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:03,840 Speaker 1: of it is. I don't think we'll accomplish anything for 716 00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:07,319 Speaker 1: anybody out there. Um, I gotta finish the song in 717 00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:10,759 Speaker 1: order for it to be what that person who's there 718 00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:13,520 Speaker 1: needs to hear. And if I can't, even if I 719 00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:16,120 Speaker 1: struggle at the end, I gotta get to the end anyway. 720 00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:18,120 Speaker 1: But there's times I recognize that I know I won't 721 00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:20,080 Speaker 1: make it to the end. I mean, dude, there's other 722 00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:22,600 Speaker 1: songs that have absolutely nothing to do with my son, 723 00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:24,720 Speaker 1: and I have to scratch him from the show. Sometimes 724 00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:27,640 Speaker 1: depending on my mental state, you know, my my where 725 00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:29,759 Speaker 1: my headspace is and how I'm thinking about it. There's 726 00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:31,960 Speaker 1: good days and bad days. Uh. And even on the 727 00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:35,440 Speaker 1: good days, it's you know, it can be a struggle. Um, 728 00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:37,279 Speaker 1: I just I have to find a good place, you know, 729 00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:40,120 Speaker 1: And and and and some days I just can't do 730 00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:43,000 Speaker 1: certain songs because I can't help but think about him 731 00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:46,120 Speaker 1: and or my wife, you know. And and I hurt 732 00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:48,160 Speaker 1: from my wife, I hurt from my kids. I hurt 733 00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:50,279 Speaker 1: from my dad. My dad and my son Jerry had 734 00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:53,640 Speaker 1: such a great relationship that it it impacted my dad, 735 00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:56,439 Speaker 1: you know, and it's made it it's really tough on him. 736 00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:58,400 Speaker 1: So I have to think about it sometimes when I 737 00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:00,760 Speaker 1: go see my dad and how I'm talking about and fishing. 738 00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:03,720 Speaker 1: That's what they did together. That was their thing, going fishing. 739 00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:07,120 Speaker 1: My wife and Jerry's thing was going to the beast. 740 00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:09,520 Speaker 1: They both loved the beast. You know. I have to 741 00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:11,560 Speaker 1: be real sensitive and we have a place on the beach. 742 00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:13,359 Speaker 1: Have to think about it when I'm there and how 743 00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:16,640 Speaker 1: I approached that, you know, and and sometimes just freaking 744 00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:18,319 Speaker 1: sitting back trying to think about what it is you 745 00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:20,320 Speaker 1: gotta say. And dude, can be struggle, a struggle, you 746 00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:23,080 Speaker 1: know what I mean. There's a lot like you know so, 747 00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:25,200 Speaker 1: but everybody else has to deal with something like that 748 00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:28,879 Speaker 1: as well. Uh, And I can't help when I talked 749 00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:33,200 Speaker 1: to somebody, I remember that that, Oh it's been all 750 00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:35,600 Speaker 1: over all the socials everybody talked about. You know, you 751 00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:38,480 Speaker 1: never know what someone else is going through at that 752 00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:40,960 Speaker 1: time in their life when you're there, and I try 753 00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:44,080 Speaker 1: to keep that in mind. Um, and I would hope 754 00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:46,279 Speaker 1: that as a human race, we all try to do 755 00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:55,080 Speaker 1: a better job at that as we moved forward in life. Well, 756 00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:57,680 Speaker 1: my really dumb question now is about a song. How 757 00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:00,000 Speaker 1: many people were like me and thought that you were 758 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:08,480 Speaker 1: harvesting in other countries international Harvester not the actual brand you. Yeah, 759 00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:10,880 Speaker 1: I did, and I'm embarrassed to say it. And you 760 00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:13,520 Speaker 1: know what, we had, your honesty, there were a lot 761 00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:16,080 Speaker 1: of and it wasn't just obviously harvested internationals a brand 762 00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:19,120 Speaker 1: we had all around us growing. Never I was such 763 00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:23,520 Speaker 1: an it that I would be like, he's international, hard Like, 764 00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:25,440 Speaker 1: what other countries is he harvesting in? What am I 765 00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:29,719 Speaker 1: missing about this song? And I mean, you know I 766 00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:33,400 Speaker 1: have harvested in other countries. Well, I'm a different product, 767 00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:37,120 Speaker 1: hasn't Am I the only idiot that's ever said that 768 00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:41,719 Speaker 1: to you? I wouldn't say idiot, but I will heard that. 769 00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:45,600 Speaker 1: I would say that because I would hear I'm and 770 00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:47,000 Speaker 1: I'd be like, all right, but why are you going 771 00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:51,600 Speaker 1: to other countries? Crag like do you do your family prows? 772 00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:55,719 Speaker 1: But I did think that that's the truth. I'm making 773 00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:59,200 Speaker 1: your word, you own them. I'm being honest. I appreciate that. Um, 774 00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:02,239 Speaker 1: what other what? What other songs? Like I was talking 775 00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:05,279 Speaker 1: about international harvester. I gotta tell you something and this 776 00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:08,680 Speaker 1: is worth the Google for you. So there is a 777 00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:14,879 Speaker 1: guy in another country that apparently in this country they're 778 00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:18,160 Speaker 1: not allowed to do music videos or something, so they 779 00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:21,360 Speaker 1: kind of sneak around and and go to other places 780 00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:27,120 Speaker 1: and do videos. It is my favorite version of International Harvester. 781 00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:30,480 Speaker 1: Oh he's singing it, yes, yeah, him and his girl 782 00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:34,920 Speaker 1: and it is. The video is do this prices what country? 783 00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:37,840 Speaker 1: I don't know, but he says, I'm the son of 784 00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:41,319 Speaker 1: a third generation farm and they got the they got 785 00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:43,759 Speaker 1: the harvester, they got the corn fields. The girl in 786 00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:47,359 Speaker 1: the denim shorts and boots and tank top kind of Oh, 787 00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:50,560 Speaker 1: it's great you're talking. Definitely, I'll find it for you 788 00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:52,680 Speaker 1: in Texas. Get to see it. Yeah. Most things I 789 00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:58,279 Speaker 1: get from you are dead animals. I'll take. It's always like, hey, 790 00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:02,800 Speaker 1: look what I killed. It's a it's a nine headed platypus, 791 00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:06,600 Speaker 1: three horns coming out trying to get you to go. 792 00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:10,719 Speaker 1: Hunts attached to it. You know what I was the 793 00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:12,319 Speaker 1: song I was talking about in my show. I've never 794 00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:16,160 Speaker 1: heard it, but I was playing them corn star Oh please, 795 00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:19,000 Speaker 1: oh good? And that's what I said, i'mnna be honest 796 00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:20,399 Speaker 1: to I was like, you know what, I said, I'm 797 00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:23,160 Speaker 1: the biggest Craig fan as a person. And I said, 798 00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:25,560 Speaker 1: but the one song that he where did you why 799 00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:27,600 Speaker 1: did you do that? That he's ever put out? This 800 00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:29,520 Speaker 1: is a couple of days ago, right, I said, the 801 00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:31,960 Speaker 1: one song he's ever put out. But I was like, 802 00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:35,080 Speaker 1: I don't know, man, it's corn Star. And you know, 803 00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:37,080 Speaker 1: at the beginning, we're like, I look at her boys, 804 00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:39,080 Speaker 1: you know she's in the aisle of the store. Tell 805 00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:42,040 Speaker 1: me about corn Star because I need to know the 806 00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:45,759 Speaker 1: conversation about cutting and putting this song out. Okay, I'm 807 00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:49,160 Speaker 1: gonna be honest, I thought, and I still do this day. 808 00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:51,120 Speaker 1: I think that's a hit song. I don't think it's 809 00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:53,560 Speaker 1: not catchy. I think to me, it was a rid 810 00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:57,200 Speaker 1: solo cup kind of thing. Okay, just a catchy, goofy 811 00:39:57,360 --> 00:40:00,719 Speaker 1: fun but a play on words. Any time you can 812 00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:05,200 Speaker 1: do something, you can play on words like that and 813 00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:07,560 Speaker 1: and it and it worked, and I felt like that 814 00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:10,680 Speaker 1: word it was just a matter of timing. And I 815 00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:13,560 Speaker 1: told them I did say, they were like, this is 816 00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:17,120 Speaker 1: the next song, Like, no, we are not ready for 817 00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:20,399 Speaker 1: this yet. We need a much bigger hit on this 818 00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:23,480 Speaker 1: album before we released this as a single and I 819 00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:26,560 Speaker 1: and I still stand by that to this day. I 820 00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:31,040 Speaker 1: still think that it is a great, funny, fun play 821 00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:33,440 Speaker 1: on words. All of that is true. I compared it 822 00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:36,840 Speaker 1: to a song like Honkey Donk, but Donkey Donk because 823 00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:39,319 Speaker 1: without the big hits, I said, that song doesn't make 824 00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:43,719 Speaker 1: sense by itself. Yeah, you gotta have you gotta have 825 00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:48,600 Speaker 1: the train really on all engines running full speed for 826 00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:52,280 Speaker 1: that one to stay on the tracks. And it didn't. 827 00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:54,120 Speaker 1: The rest of the show. I didn't even hadn't even 828 00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:56,480 Speaker 1: heard of before, and I was like, what do you 829 00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:58,319 Speaker 1: mean it was? I had to be like top ten? 830 00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:01,200 Speaker 1: And then I look, it wasn't. Wasn't. I guess the 831 00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:02,719 Speaker 1: stations just don't want to play it because of the 832 00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:04,960 Speaker 1: uh yeah, they just do want to play it. It was. 833 00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:06,839 Speaker 1: It was a timing thing, you know. And and even 834 00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:09,520 Speaker 1: they said the same thing, you know, which I'm glad 835 00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:12,240 Speaker 1: because it made me look like a genius with the label, 836 00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:15,480 Speaker 1: Oh well, we should have listened to you. Maybe you'll 837 00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:17,960 Speaker 1: listen next time. You know that the song that I 838 00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:21,440 Speaker 1: have I always liked and sang along to it, but 839 00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:25,840 Speaker 1: I didn't quite understand. Until I, uh, I had met Caitlin, 840 00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:30,239 Speaker 1: who's my fiancee, was this old boy. I didn't ever 841 00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:32,640 Speaker 1: quite feel it in my gut until you actually have 842 00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:36,240 Speaker 1: and yep, and and and you know, and the songs 843 00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:38,719 Speaker 1: about you know what, this old boy. You can't believe 844 00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:41,600 Speaker 1: you have her. You know, she's the best. And finally, 845 00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:44,160 Speaker 1: because she loves to listen to your music. And sometimes 846 00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:45,640 Speaker 1: I'm like, we just change it from Craig Morgan for 847 00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:49,320 Speaker 1: a minute, but that song, I would hear it and 848 00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:50,600 Speaker 1: I would be like, yeah, I know all the words 849 00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:52,680 Speaker 1: of the song from on the radio, I said, But 850 00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:55,800 Speaker 1: now I kind of get it, Like I finally feel 851 00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:58,040 Speaker 1: like this old you know who gets you? This old 852 00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:01,279 Speaker 1: boy right here? You make me look good? Yeah. Yeah. 853 00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:05,800 Speaker 1: We were at a restaurant last night is True Food. 854 00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:08,680 Speaker 1: It's a little healthy place, um, a little chain about 855 00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:12,040 Speaker 1: six seven miles away. We were in there eating and 856 00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:14,960 Speaker 1: there was a couple and Caitlin's way prettier than I am, 857 00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:17,600 Speaker 1: even on a scale like points wise, I like, I don't, 858 00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:20,960 Speaker 1: it just isn't and so but people look at her 859 00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:24,279 Speaker 1: and then they look at me and they're confused. I 860 00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:26,359 Speaker 1: get that every time. And with mamie. Yeah, they're just 861 00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:29,640 Speaker 1: like and they go, there's something. There must be something 862 00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:33,280 Speaker 1: about him that we're not seeing because she's so pretty 863 00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:36,280 Speaker 1: and funny and smart. Everything I'm good at, she's actually 864 00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:38,880 Speaker 1: better at, which is weird, Like she's funnier than I am, 865 00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:42,040 Speaker 1: smarter than I am everything. But people look at me. 866 00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:44,880 Speaker 1: But but it's like that song. I'm like, yeah, but 867 00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:46,319 Speaker 1: you know who gets it? This guy right here like 868 00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:49,839 Speaker 1: that I won. Yeah, that's the way I feel most 869 00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:51,919 Speaker 1: of my life, and I get the same thing. People 870 00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:53,440 Speaker 1: looking they go, oh, that's a great woman. Oh look 871 00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:56,400 Speaker 1: at his wife. Oh I get it. Country singer. I 872 00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:58,440 Speaker 1: don't know married, she married the guy. I think. They 873 00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:02,359 Speaker 1: look at me and like, like U a surgeon. I mean, 874 00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:04,600 Speaker 1: it's such a nerd. It's gotta be something like that. 875 00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:06,120 Speaker 1: Play a little bit. Do you have this old boy 876 00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:11,279 Speaker 1: cute up there? My go shent. We go to the 877 00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:13,920 Speaker 1: river and get in the water, and buddy, she's hotter 878 00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:19,479 Speaker 1: than South Georgia and jew Lave and we're not whether 879 00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:21,960 Speaker 1: I can get another. I gotta kiss her and I 880 00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:28,160 Speaker 1: gotta hug your brother. She is mine. Oh my, that's 881 00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:34,520 Speaker 1: a you know the songwriter. The guys Georgia peach peach pickers, 882 00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:38,239 Speaker 1: that's who that wrote that. Really, Yeah, read I got 883 00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:40,399 Speaker 1: that from one yet so you got uh so, what's 884 00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:42,440 Speaker 1: up with the Craig Morgan Camo hats right on your website, 885 00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:45,319 Speaker 1: Craig Morgan. Yeah, have you seen the Craig Morgan Camo 886 00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:47,160 Speaker 1: hats you have up there? Twenty five bucks? I look good. 887 00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:50,640 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I've just seen those. In fact, I'm flying 888 00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:53,480 Speaker 1: up the shelves. Yeah. They've done real well. It's not 889 00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:57,600 Speaker 1: it's just like a military and old military pattern or something. Yeah, 890 00:43:57,640 --> 00:43:58,759 Speaker 1: I saw that when it came over here. I don't 891 00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:00,080 Speaker 1: tell people they need to get one of these, you 892 00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:03,360 Speaker 1: know some of the you know, we have merchandise guys 893 00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:05,600 Speaker 1: and all these people again that are smarter than me, 894 00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:07,680 Speaker 1: and they just they come up with a bunch of 895 00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:09,080 Speaker 1: stuff and go to you like this. It's like, yeah, 896 00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:10,680 Speaker 1: that's cool, and they go, we think it of somemody, 897 00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:15,600 Speaker 1: let's try it. Sure. You know. COVID was ironically enough 898 00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:19,879 Speaker 1: was I hate to use say that it was good 899 00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:22,080 Speaker 1: for our merchandise sales, because you don't want to think 900 00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:26,600 Speaker 1: COVID was good for anything. But we did really well 901 00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:29,680 Speaker 1: during the pandemic I want to thank everyone that went 902 00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:33,960 Speaker 1: and bought stuff, the merchandise, um, but I was kind 903 00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:37,520 Speaker 1: of mind boggled by it, Like I can't believe. I 904 00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:42,000 Speaker 1: feel like nobody's working and everybody's buying merchandise and CDs 905 00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:46,279 Speaker 1: and stuff. So it's kind of weird maybe, but that's 906 00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:48,120 Speaker 1: the joy is getting a package. Like that's only joy 907 00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:49,480 Speaker 1: we were getting. People are leaving in her house, some 908 00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:52,360 Speaker 1: things had to come to us. We're like ordered something online. 909 00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:56,960 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I should on stock at Amazon. My wife. 910 00:44:57,280 --> 00:45:00,600 Speaker 1: Did you stay in Alaska for a lot of the shutdown? 911 00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:05,120 Speaker 1: We did? Yeah? Why Alaska? I've been going up there 912 00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:08,759 Speaker 1: for about twenty five years for everything from and I 913 00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:11,239 Speaker 1: only ask because it's far because of any other I don't. 914 00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:13,080 Speaker 1: I don't like cold either, but some people do. But 915 00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:15,160 Speaker 1: it's far from it's it's far from Tennis, it's along 916 00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:16,920 Speaker 1: it's I mean, it's quite an endeavor just to get 917 00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:19,319 Speaker 1: up there, especially where I'm at. It's one thing to 918 00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:21,600 Speaker 1: go to Anchorage or Fairbanks, one of the major cities, 919 00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:24,439 Speaker 1: but I'm off the grid. So you know, you fly 920 00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:27,000 Speaker 1: into one of the cities and then you either drive 921 00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:30,240 Speaker 1: to a spot and then either walk in or float 922 00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:33,120 Speaker 1: plane in walk in. What do you mean, I mean 923 00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:37,759 Speaker 1: my my My place is about nine miles from the 924 00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:41,360 Speaker 1: nearest road, So you have to you would want, so 925 00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:45,319 Speaker 1: you drive for three hours, park your vehicle and then 926 00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:47,919 Speaker 1: I parked near a big lake and I can either 927 00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:50,359 Speaker 1: have the foat plane pick me up there and fly 928 00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:53,799 Speaker 1: over to our lake, or I can walk in. Or 929 00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:56,000 Speaker 1: in the winter we snow machine and you can walk 930 00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:59,560 Speaker 1: nine miles. You you will walk nine miles to your place. 931 00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:02,600 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, with a gun of course. But you're a 932 00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:05,480 Speaker 1: country stars. Why are you walking nine miles? Well, I 933 00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:07,560 Speaker 1: mean in the summertime. If if I can't get the 934 00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:10,719 Speaker 1: plane up the weather, inclement weather, and they can't fly. Uh, 935 00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:12,440 Speaker 1: there's not a landing strip there, you know, they have 936 00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:14,480 Speaker 1: to land on the water. Why even have place out 937 00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:17,680 Speaker 1: that far man? Because when you get there, Bobby, I 938 00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:19,920 Speaker 1: gotta tell you you got the experience that you need 939 00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:21,560 Speaker 1: to come up one. I always tell people to to 940 00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:24,359 Speaker 1: come in the winter because getting there and getting out 941 00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:26,239 Speaker 1: of there is so much easier. In the winter. I 942 00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:28,000 Speaker 1: can literally get from where I part my truck to 943 00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:31,279 Speaker 1: the cabin in about fifteen minutes on a snowmobile. So 944 00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:33,439 Speaker 1: and we have a property on the road as well, 945 00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:35,560 Speaker 1: So that's where I store everything. So you'll just leave 946 00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:38,360 Speaker 1: your truck on the road. Well, on our property there 947 00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:40,480 Speaker 1: near the road, and it's a gravel road, so it's 948 00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:44,640 Speaker 1: not improved. It's not uh, it's they do great during 949 00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:47,439 Speaker 1: the all the snow. Uh. They do kind of get 950 00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:50,400 Speaker 1: the snow off the road kinda um, and then we 951 00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:52,120 Speaker 1: park it on our property and we hop on our 952 00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:55,439 Speaker 1: snow machines and ride in. But when you get there, man, 953 00:46:56,080 --> 00:47:00,279 Speaker 1: or if you're not real keen on, try srying the 954 00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:02,480 Speaker 1: snow machine. And if somebody's worried about that, I just 955 00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:04,479 Speaker 1: have the plane pick them up an anchorage and land 956 00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:07,040 Speaker 1: on the skis on the lake, on the on the ice. 957 00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:09,120 Speaker 1: You know which sounds scarier walking down miles are getting 958 00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:11,160 Speaker 1: one of their plants with the things on. Walking is 959 00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:13,120 Speaker 1: a little freaky, I gotta say, especially at that time 960 00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:15,279 Speaker 1: of year, because you know that uh, you know the 961 00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:19,560 Speaker 1: moose are out, you know that bear are out. Anything 962 00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:24,759 Speaker 1: ever tracking you, the bear will uh. The greasy black 963 00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:27,920 Speaker 1: bears are kind of like cats. Uh. And this is 964 00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:32,360 Speaker 1: the my personal experience. Um, A black bear is a 965 00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:35,480 Speaker 1: lot like a cat. They're skittish and they'll run from you, 966 00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:37,840 Speaker 1: and they don't really come around the fires and stuff 967 00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:40,520 Speaker 1: too much. But if you corner them, or if it's 968 00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:45,000 Speaker 1: a sow with cubs, they get real ignorant quick. Or 969 00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:47,440 Speaker 1: if they're really hungry and you're between them and their food, 970 00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:51,800 Speaker 1: will you ever be their food? You could be? Yeah, yeah, easily. 971 00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:54,320 Speaker 1: That's why we we don't go in without a weapon. 972 00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:57,200 Speaker 1: What about the grizzlies though, Compare that to the black bear? Uh? 973 00:47:57,320 --> 00:48:01,239 Speaker 1: Different story. Yeah, yeah, there are a lot brave uh, 974 00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:04,719 Speaker 1: and they're very territorial, much more so than a black bear. 975 00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:07,360 Speaker 1: But honestly, the bear don't scare me as much as 976 00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:10,759 Speaker 1: a moose. A cow moose with the calf will fight you. 977 00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:14,040 Speaker 1: And and there's more people injured, harmed or killed by 978 00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:16,319 Speaker 1: moose up there than all the other animals combined. What 979 00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:18,719 Speaker 1: will the moose do and talk you to death? And 980 00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:21,759 Speaker 1: why will it do it? Because it's threatened to buy 981 00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:25,560 Speaker 1: you in any way, it's protecting its territory. It's calves. 982 00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:28,520 Speaker 1: If it's a female, she's protecting her calves. If it's 983 00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:32,239 Speaker 1: a bull moose and heat, he's protecting his territory. Uh, 984 00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:34,000 Speaker 1: to keep you away from his cows. Kind of thing 985 00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:37,319 Speaker 1: you ever had to kill an animal to save yourself. No, 986 00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:43,000 Speaker 1: thank god, I have allowed a uh, I have had 987 00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:48,319 Speaker 1: to allow. I harvested a a blacktail deer on the 988 00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:51,719 Speaker 1: island of Kodiak, and I did not get to go 989 00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:54,759 Speaker 1: get that because the bear got there before I did. 990 00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:57,879 Speaker 1: And we set for six hours and watch that sal 991 00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:01,759 Speaker 1: and her three calves eat, my dear, because if the 992 00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:06,400 Speaker 1: animal gets if the bear gets to the harvest before 993 00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:09,759 Speaker 1: you do, you can't do anything about it. It's there's 994 00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:12,520 Speaker 1: at that point. You can't shoot them, you can't scare 995 00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:14,720 Speaker 1: them off of it or anything like that. By all, 996 00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:19,040 Speaker 1: it becomes their food. And so she got there first 997 00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:20,879 Speaker 1: and she owned it. Now, if I'd got there there 998 00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:23,480 Speaker 1: before she did and then she came up, I could 999 00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:25,080 Speaker 1: have shot her and protect him myself. But I don't 1000 00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:26,680 Speaker 1: really want to do that, you know, it's not that's 1001 00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:29,399 Speaker 1: not my that's not my not the way I want 1002 00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:32,640 Speaker 1: to do It was up in Montana about at this 1003 00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:35,719 Speaker 1: point six months ago, and this was from my my 1004 00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:38,440 Speaker 1: na Geo show that's come out a few weeks that. Um. 1005 00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:41,200 Speaker 1: We were protecting sheep. There's sheep herders and there are 1006 00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:43,640 Speaker 1: two thousand of them and they move around. It's all 1007 00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:46,160 Speaker 1: government land and they're all plots, and you know, you 1008 00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:48,319 Speaker 1: lease the land, you move the sheep around. They can 1009 00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:51,560 Speaker 1: only eat certain parts in certain orders. They but at 1010 00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:55,120 Speaker 1: night the bears will come and try to or not 1011 00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:59,480 Speaker 1: just the bears, coyotes, you know, occasionally a wolf depending 1012 00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:02,359 Speaker 1: on what part and so. But you know they had 1013 00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:05,279 Speaker 1: My job was to make sure the sheep didn't get 1014 00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:07,480 Speaker 1: eaten all night. I had to. I had to watch 1015 00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:12,120 Speaker 1: the sheep and with uh you know, these night vision scopes, 1016 00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:15,640 Speaker 1: you'd see like a little bears, you'd see the coyotes 1017 00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:18,400 Speaker 1: and um. But they were like, hey, you can't. You know, 1018 00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:20,719 Speaker 1: you can't shoot a bear. Like what you do is 1019 00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:23,359 Speaker 1: you you have your bear spray and that what they 1020 00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:24,719 Speaker 1: told me to do is if a bear comes out, 1021 00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:28,240 Speaker 1: you spray the spright into the ground and it lifts 1022 00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:30,960 Speaker 1: and then the bear won't come through the bear spray. 1023 00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:35,080 Speaker 1: I was like, you gotta be kidding me. I've got 1024 00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:37,000 Speaker 1: a rifle. If I feel like a bear is coming 1025 00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:38,960 Speaker 1: at me, I'm not grabbing the bears, but I'll just 1026 00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:40,640 Speaker 1: go to jail for a couple of days. If a 1027 00:50:40,680 --> 00:50:43,319 Speaker 1: bear is gonna attag me. Do you travel with bear 1028 00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:45,960 Speaker 1: spray at all or is it just I've never taken 1029 00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:49,040 Speaker 1: bear spray. Um, because I just tried to. I will. 1030 00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:52,640 Speaker 1: I will avoid the circumstance of putting myself in a position. 1031 00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:55,960 Speaker 1: Now having said that, I always have a side arm, 1032 00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:58,520 Speaker 1: and it's a very large side arm. So if I'm 1033 00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:00,279 Speaker 1: deer hunting, I got a rifle, but also keep my 1034 00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:02,840 Speaker 1: bear gun with me. Um, I will just try to. 1035 00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:05,719 Speaker 1: I don't want to shoot a bear. Now this is 1036 00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:08,799 Speaker 1: people are gonna god. I'm sure I catch fight, but 1037 00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:11,880 Speaker 1: I don't want to shoot a bear in defense. I 1038 00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:15,600 Speaker 1: want to hunt the bear. Does that make sense? If 1039 00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:18,160 Speaker 1: I'm gonna hunt it, It's like running over a squirrel 1040 00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:22,399 Speaker 1: in the road. I will hit the ditch in an 1041 00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:26,000 Speaker 1: attempt to not run a squirrel over because that's not 1042 00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:27,600 Speaker 1: the way I want to do it. But I do 1043 00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:30,680 Speaker 1: go squirrel hunting rights an analogy though, But I also 1044 00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:33,920 Speaker 1: I also don't want to shoot anything that I'm not 1045 00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:37,200 Speaker 1: gonna eat or someone's not gonna eat or prosper from that. 1046 00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:39,799 Speaker 1: And I don't mean financially, but I mean you know 1047 00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:44,000 Speaker 1: that someone's gonna get that meat. And so I have 1048 00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:45,960 Speaker 1: a real issue with people who go out and just 1049 00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:49,520 Speaker 1: shoot crap like that just dropped. Makes the hair on 1050 00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:51,040 Speaker 1: the back of my neck stand up and I want 1051 00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:53,600 Speaker 1: to shoot them. Yeah. I get it because as someone 1052 00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:56,760 Speaker 1: who had to hunt to eat the first same fifteen 1053 00:51:56,800 --> 00:51:59,520 Speaker 1: years of my life age one through six, I didn't 1054 00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:03,440 Speaker 1: really after that it was squirrel and it graduates up 1055 00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:05,440 Speaker 1: slowly and we had to eat. Yeah, and we had 1056 00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:07,840 Speaker 1: to catch fish to eat. Same here. It would piss 1057 00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:10,040 Speaker 1: me off when people would be out just hunting to 1058 00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:12,960 Speaker 1: shoot and kill just to have the just just for 1059 00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:16,120 Speaker 1: the trophy. Yeah, I get really aggravated. And I've been 1060 00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:18,760 Speaker 1: on some hunts in in some places, in nice places, 1061 00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:21,759 Speaker 1: and we go out and I work hard, even though 1062 00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:24,200 Speaker 1: I might not be the guy that did the work 1063 00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:26,799 Speaker 1: to prepare the hunt. You know, there's other guys that 1064 00:52:26,840 --> 00:52:28,720 Speaker 1: do the food plots and do that stuff. And I'm 1065 00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:31,600 Speaker 1: I'm fortunate enough that and because of my scheduled demperment, 1066 00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:33,440 Speaker 1: I get to go there and hunt. And I'll go 1067 00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:34,840 Speaker 1: there and hunt, and I'll be there and camp and 1068 00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:35,840 Speaker 1: see a guy go out and do it and the 1069 00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:37,719 Speaker 1: shoot the animal, go over and take a picture and 1070 00:52:37,719 --> 00:52:40,440 Speaker 1: then go back to the lone. It's like, aren't you 1071 00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:43,960 Speaker 1: gonna clean that animal, or help them at least. I mean, 1072 00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:46,600 Speaker 1: it's one thing to get your picture with your bigger act, 1073 00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:48,759 Speaker 1: but I mean and they're like, ah, you know, no, 1074 00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:50,759 Speaker 1: I just wanted to hunt, you know, and they're going 1075 00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:53,240 Speaker 1: to give the meat to charity and not not that's cool, 1076 00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:57,120 Speaker 1: but at least help them harvest it so you can 1077 00:52:57,160 --> 00:53:01,239 Speaker 1: appreciate what that animal is viding. You know, I don't know. 1078 00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:03,279 Speaker 1: It just kind of drives me nuts. Man. You know, 1079 00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:06,680 Speaker 1: your story into country music and I just touched on 1080 00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:09,759 Speaker 1: this briefly, is really cool because you were in the 1081 00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:12,920 Speaker 1: military and like, weren't your superiors going, hey man, you 1082 00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:16,360 Speaker 1: gotta go chase this music thing. Uh. That's the reason 1083 00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:19,440 Speaker 1: I'm here today. I would not have left, man. And 1084 00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:22,280 Speaker 1: I'm from Nashville, but I was born in General Hospital 1085 00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:24,719 Speaker 1: down here. My mama used to always say I was 1086 00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:27,000 Speaker 1: supposed to be born at Baptist, but they didn't make it. 1087 00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:31,040 Speaker 1: They had to stop at General. Um Um. Grew up 1088 00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:32,880 Speaker 1: in and around the music business my whole life. My 1089 00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:36,240 Speaker 1: dad was a musician. Kingston Springs was home. I graduated 1090 00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:39,480 Speaker 1: in Cheatham County High School. I went to m Tissue. 1091 00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:41,640 Speaker 1: You know, so music it was always part of it 1092 00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:47,200 Speaker 1: avoided it. Uh, went in the military, and I think 1093 00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:50,160 Speaker 1: being in the military really made me a really miss 1094 00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:55,240 Speaker 1: and appreciate not just music but home in Nashville. Um 1095 00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:57,520 Speaker 1: So it was always a big part of my life, 1096 00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:02,120 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Uh, what was it not? 1097 00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:04,160 Speaker 1: You didn't realize it was as valuable to you until 1098 00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:08,359 Speaker 1: you got away from it. Yeah, I think so. Again, 1099 00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:10,640 Speaker 1: it's what my dad did. But my dad also had 1100 00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:13,319 Speaker 1: another job, and I thought, I don't want to do 1101 00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:15,840 Speaker 1: something that that. I got to do something else to 1102 00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:17,680 Speaker 1: be able to do it. Of course, then I got 1103 00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:21,920 Speaker 1: out of the army and uh and did everything else 1104 00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:24,360 Speaker 1: while I was trying to make it in the business. Uh. 1105 00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:26,799 Speaker 1: But if it, to get back to your question, it 1106 00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:29,360 Speaker 1: was a you know, I didn't. I was always nervous 1107 00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:31,359 Speaker 1: about it. I'm like my wife and I would talk. 1108 00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:33,919 Speaker 1: I was writing songs and kind of writing at while 1109 00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:35,200 Speaker 1: you were in the army. While I was in the 1110 00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:38,160 Speaker 1: arm and you're playing fun you know, were you playing around? 1111 00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:40,560 Speaker 1: I mean, were you playing around the other guy? Dude? 1112 00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:43,799 Speaker 1: Like in Panama. I just did a I just did 1113 00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:46,480 Speaker 1: a show, a TV show, and I brought in five 1114 00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:48,799 Speaker 1: of my buddies that I served with in Panama in 1115 00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:51,160 Speaker 1: nineteen eighty nine. It was my team. The guys worked 1116 00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:53,600 Speaker 1: for me, and we sat around and talked about it, 1117 00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:55,640 Speaker 1: and they talked about how I used to play music, 1118 00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:58,920 Speaker 1: and like, I don't even really remember that. You don't 1119 00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:00,919 Speaker 1: remember we should sent her into racks and drink beer 1120 00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:03,520 Speaker 1: and you would play in tim My buddy was like, man, men, 1121 00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:07,320 Speaker 1: you played all the time together, like a vague memories 1122 00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:10,120 Speaker 1: of that. I more remember all of the stuff that 1123 00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:11,759 Speaker 1: we went through it and they're like, yeah, but when 1124 00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:14,480 Speaker 1: we weren't doing all those things, this is what we did, 1125 00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:18,000 Speaker 1: you know. Like so they were all very encouraging, and 1126 00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:19,680 Speaker 1: it came to a point in my career. I was 1127 00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:21,239 Speaker 1: ten and a half years of active duty. You have 1128 00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:23,920 Speaker 1: to make a decision. I was gonna realist again or 1129 00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:27,000 Speaker 1: I was going to pursue the music. Uh. And I 1130 00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:28,880 Speaker 1: was just nervous about it. I didn't have near the 1131 00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:31,040 Speaker 1: confidence that a lot of people. You know, I talked 1132 00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:33,279 Speaker 1: to Blake about it a lot, especially early on in 1133 00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:36,879 Speaker 1: our careers. You know, Blake left everything. Man comes here 1134 00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:40,480 Speaker 1: A lot of musicians that try this. Excuse me, They 1135 00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:44,640 Speaker 1: come here with nothing or no one, And so in 1136 00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:48,720 Speaker 1: my head, I'm going well. At least it's where I'm from. 1137 00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:51,080 Speaker 1: I got family. I can you know, I can work 1138 00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:54,840 Speaker 1: with dad. I can at least have that so and 1139 00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:56,840 Speaker 1: then if it don't work, I can go back in 1140 00:55:56,880 --> 00:55:59,080 Speaker 1: the army. I'm gonna stay in the active reserve so 1141 00:55:59,120 --> 00:56:01,200 Speaker 1: I don't lose any of my time and service, my rank, 1142 00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:04,360 Speaker 1: any of those things. I never would have done it. 1143 00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:06,440 Speaker 1: I gotta be honest. If I had been a guy 1144 00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:10,680 Speaker 1: from Arkansas, from Missouri or Texas or Oklahoma, I didn't, 1145 00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:12,680 Speaker 1: I would never be I would not be a country 1146 00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:16,680 Speaker 1: singer today. It's only because I was from Nashville and 1147 00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:18,719 Speaker 1: my family was here and it was home to me. 1148 00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:21,719 Speaker 1: So I felt like my worst case was at least 1149 00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:24,279 Speaker 1: I'm around my family, and if it don't work, I'll 1150 00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:28,239 Speaker 1: go back in the army. How long until you came 1151 00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:31,640 Speaker 1: back home? But also you're kind of venturing into this 1152 00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:34,200 Speaker 1: new world of country music. How long until you realize, Hey, 1153 00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:36,239 Speaker 1: I kind of do deserve to be here, Like maybe 1154 00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:37,719 Speaker 1: I'm not as good as I'm going to be, but 1155 00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:41,040 Speaker 1: like I I can compete. How long was it in 1156 00:56:41,080 --> 00:56:42,919 Speaker 1: the country music before he started to feel that way? 1157 00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:46,759 Speaker 1: I'm working on it. Yeah, Well, who told then who 1158 00:56:46,800 --> 00:56:48,359 Speaker 1: told you because we talked to it before we came 1159 00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:50,799 Speaker 1: on the air here. Like people, when people invest in you, 1160 00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:53,040 Speaker 1: that means they believe in you, and I believe you're 1161 00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:55,920 Speaker 1: going to make them eventually down the road some money, 1162 00:56:56,239 --> 00:56:58,880 Speaker 1: right because business and friendship, there's there's a lot of 1163 00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:00,960 Speaker 1: friendship in business. But you know, if someone's gonna spend 1164 00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:04,440 Speaker 1: money on you that they believe in you, wasn't know 1165 00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:07,880 Speaker 1: what that means. They believe you're gonna help them make money. Yeah, 1166 00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:11,279 Speaker 1: and that was who believed in you, Uh, you know 1167 00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:14,279 Speaker 1: early only it was a bunch of different people. Ironically enough, 1168 00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:15,719 Speaker 1: it wasn't. One of the guys was the guy that 1169 00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:19,520 Speaker 1: wasn't even in the business. Uh. He was a contractor 1170 00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:22,200 Speaker 1: um and he wanted to be in the business. And 1171 00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:24,760 Speaker 1: he had done very well with his business, made a 1172 00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:27,480 Speaker 1: lot of money, and he's like, you know, you gotta 1173 00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:31,640 Speaker 1: do this. You know, I'll if if I will pay 1174 00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:35,280 Speaker 1: for your house. If it doesn't work, give it a year. 1175 00:57:35,600 --> 00:57:37,120 Speaker 1: And he's one of the guys that convinced me to 1176 00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:38,880 Speaker 1: get out of the army because and that was the 1177 00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:40,680 Speaker 1: reason why he said, if you get out of the 1178 00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:43,360 Speaker 1: army and you try it after a year. If it 1179 00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:45,160 Speaker 1: don't work, I'll pay your house off and you can 1180 00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:47,920 Speaker 1: go back in the army. I got nothing to lose here, 1181 00:57:48,680 --> 00:57:50,600 Speaker 1: you know. And there was also a couple of guys 1182 00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:54,560 Speaker 1: that had a small publishing company. Uh West Mayor's was 1183 00:57:54,600 --> 00:57:56,360 Speaker 1: one of those guys, and they said, we'll sign you 1184 00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:58,560 Speaker 1: to a publishing deal. And they've paid me money. You know, 1185 00:57:58,600 --> 00:58:00,560 Speaker 1: it wasn't much, but it was enough and they believed 1186 00:58:00,560 --> 00:58:03,960 Speaker 1: in me, which led to uh Maypop Publishing, which was 1187 00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:06,920 Speaker 1: owned by Alabama, which led to Sony Publishing. So it 1188 00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:11,000 Speaker 1: was a lot of those little pieces. Um. But back 1189 00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:16,360 Speaker 1: the other the commander, my my colonel at Fort pot Louisiana, 1190 00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:19,080 Speaker 1: when I was at that deciding point, I'll never forget 1191 00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:21,760 Speaker 1: setting down with him in the general and both of 1192 00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:24,240 Speaker 1: those gentlemen said, we believe that if you stay in 1193 00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:27,120 Speaker 1: the army, you will be the sergeant major of the 1194 00:58:27,240 --> 00:58:32,040 Speaker 1: army someday. You're you're fast tracking, you know, you're you're 1195 00:58:32,040 --> 00:58:36,200 Speaker 1: good at what you do, but we also think that 1196 00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:39,600 Speaker 1: you should at least try this. It was that conversation 1197 00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:43,360 Speaker 1: that led to me pursuing, you know, taking those forty 1198 00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:47,120 Speaker 1: weekends when I was off and come into Nashville, meeting 1199 00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:50,360 Speaker 1: with the West mayors, meeting with the Brian Schweitzer's and 1200 00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:53,400 Speaker 1: all of these different people, and and literally within a 1201 00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:57,600 Speaker 1: year of me leaving the army, almost of the day 1202 00:58:57,680 --> 00:58:59,760 Speaker 1: when I was ready to cash in on my buddies, 1203 00:58:59,800 --> 00:59:03,920 Speaker 1: come it and go back into the army, Brian Schweitzer 1204 00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:05,760 Speaker 1: called me from Atlantic Records and said, I want to 1205 00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:10,080 Speaker 1: offer your record deal. And how did that make you feel? Nervous? 1206 00:59:10,120 --> 00:59:14,040 Speaker 1: Because I was wanting the publishing. I had those small 1207 00:59:14,040 --> 00:59:16,240 Speaker 1: publishing deals. At this point. I was writing from may Pop, 1208 00:59:16,760 --> 00:59:19,000 Speaker 1: so I had I was getting a little more money 1209 00:59:19,080 --> 00:59:22,440 Speaker 1: which allowed me to not have to work in vinyl sighting. 1210 00:59:23,520 --> 00:59:25,640 Speaker 1: And I was working as a sheriff's deputy as well, 1211 00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:28,880 Speaker 1: So I was doing vinyl sighting on the side working 1212 00:59:28,920 --> 00:59:31,280 Speaker 1: as a sheriff's deputy and then doing security as a 1213 00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:33,240 Speaker 1: Sharff off duty shaff's deputy, you know what I mean. 1214 00:59:33,680 --> 00:59:36,960 Speaker 1: And for doing writers nights every weekend, and you know 1215 00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:38,760 Speaker 1: what I mean. There was a lot going on. So 1216 00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:41,040 Speaker 1: it gave me a little bit more confidence, but it 1217 00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:44,360 Speaker 1: also made me very nervous because I knew, based on 1218 00:59:44,400 --> 00:59:46,800 Speaker 1: everything everybody told me as an artist in the beginning 1219 00:59:46,800 --> 00:59:49,760 Speaker 1: you make nothing man on shows and stuff. Uh, in fact, 1220 00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:52,800 Speaker 1: everybody else will be making money and you want. But 1221 00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:55,160 Speaker 1: I was also making a little bit in the publishing, 1222 00:59:55,160 --> 00:59:57,440 Speaker 1: and I started started getting a lot of interest in 1223 00:59:57,480 --> 00:59:59,360 Speaker 1: a lot of the songs that I was writing, so 1224 00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:02,800 Speaker 1: I thought, in I might try Uh, this is at 1225 01:00:02,800 --> 01:00:05,960 Speaker 1: that point, so I'm going to try it. When I 1226 01:00:06,040 --> 01:00:08,200 Speaker 1: left the Army to come here to pursue the music, 1227 01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:10,680 Speaker 1: it was not to pursue it as an artist. It 1228 01:00:10,800 --> 01:00:13,360 Speaker 1: was to pursue it as a songwriter because I had 1229 01:00:13,400 --> 01:00:14,960 Speaker 1: a wife and two kids, and I knew that you 1230 01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:17,600 Speaker 1: could make money writing songs, and I could still do 1231 01:00:17,640 --> 01:00:20,520 Speaker 1: other things to make more money, you know. And then 1232 01:00:20,680 --> 01:00:22,680 Speaker 1: in the process of writing my songs and doing that, 1233 01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:24,600 Speaker 1: I was doing my own demos, and then I started 1234 01:00:24,600 --> 01:00:28,320 Speaker 1: doing other people's demos, and in that one year's time, 1235 01:00:28,880 --> 01:00:31,920 Speaker 1: it turned into that phone call. But which was really 1236 01:00:31,960 --> 01:00:33,920 Speaker 1: weird the way that phone call came from where he 1237 01:00:33,920 --> 01:00:36,680 Speaker 1: heard my music. It wasn't through an A and R team, 1238 01:00:36,720 --> 01:00:40,320 Speaker 1: It wasn't through a publicist or a publisher. It came 1239 01:00:40,360 --> 01:00:43,520 Speaker 1: from a guy who boarded his horses, who I knew 1240 01:00:43,840 --> 01:00:46,400 Speaker 1: who every time I would demo my music, I would 1241 01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:49,040 Speaker 1: take it to him, and Jeff would play it. And 1242 01:00:49,080 --> 01:00:52,520 Speaker 1: this guy, Brian Sweitzer happened to be boarding his horses 1243 01:00:52,560 --> 01:00:55,439 Speaker 1: at Jeff's stables and heard it and asked him who 1244 01:00:55,640 --> 01:00:57,440 Speaker 1: is that? And he told him and he called me 1245 01:00:58,360 --> 01:01:00,000 Speaker 1: and he made a decision that he wanted to sign 1246 01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:03,600 Speaker 1: you from just listening to a demo. Wow, call me 1247 01:01:03,640 --> 01:01:05,080 Speaker 1: and said can you come in. I was on my 1248 01:01:05,120 --> 01:01:07,919 Speaker 1: way home from a writing session. Had had the third 1249 01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:11,120 Speaker 1: shift with the Sheriff's department at that time. I said, Jen, 1250 01:01:11,160 --> 01:01:12,560 Speaker 1: and he said where are you? And I said, I'm 1251 01:01:12,600 --> 01:01:14,240 Speaker 1: on Interstate forty, but I can turn around. I had 1252 01:01:14,280 --> 01:01:16,600 Speaker 1: a jeep wrangler and I'll never forget a cuss across 1253 01:01:16,640 --> 01:01:18,360 Speaker 1: cut across the inter state, right in the middle of 1254 01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:20,440 Speaker 1: Inner State, and turned around and came right back. Fifteen minutes. 1255 01:01:20,440 --> 01:01:22,040 Speaker 1: I was in the office and they asked me to 1256 01:01:22,080 --> 01:01:24,320 Speaker 1: sing something, and I said, well, I mean, you know 1257 01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:27,080 Speaker 1: they heard one of the demonists singing I want to 1258 01:01:27,120 --> 01:01:29,200 Speaker 1: hear you sing it live like well, I don't really 1259 01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:31,800 Speaker 1: play as a pianist, it's just and Al Cooley was there. 1260 01:01:32,280 --> 01:01:35,200 Speaker 1: Al Cooley was one of the most horrendous A and 1261 01:01:35,320 --> 01:01:40,040 Speaker 1: R guys, A brutally feastfully honest, a and r guy. 1262 01:01:40,120 --> 01:01:42,680 Speaker 1: Looking back, he was one of the best. But I 1263 01:01:42,840 --> 01:01:46,960 Speaker 1: just remember he had this reputation of being like mean, terrible, mean, 1264 01:01:47,080 --> 01:01:49,440 Speaker 1: you know, but what it was, he was honest and 1265 01:01:49,480 --> 01:01:52,520 Speaker 1: he probably saved a lot of people's lives. Um And 1266 01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:55,120 Speaker 1: they had me sing a song, uh called three or 1267 01:01:55,120 --> 01:01:58,120 Speaker 1: two South Maple Avenue Acapello and so I sang it 1268 01:01:58,280 --> 01:02:01,240 Speaker 1: and uh literally right setting like this right here? Do 1269 01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:04,960 Speaker 1: you too? Sound me but ivenue? And I sing a 1270 01:02:04,960 --> 01:02:07,520 Speaker 1: little bit and he says, we'd like to sign you 1271 01:02:07,560 --> 01:02:11,120 Speaker 1: to a record Yeah, just like that strangest thing ever. 1272 01:02:11,480 --> 01:02:13,560 Speaker 1: So I'm like, oh yeah, sure, he goes you ever turning, 1273 01:02:13,560 --> 01:02:16,040 Speaker 1: I'm like yeah, how about management? I'm like yeah, yeah. 1274 01:02:16,320 --> 01:02:18,080 Speaker 1: So I walked out of the office and I called 1275 01:02:18,160 --> 01:02:20,520 Speaker 1: my wife. Uh no, I did not call my wife. 1276 01:02:20,680 --> 01:02:23,160 Speaker 1: I did not cause I got home and I said 1277 01:02:23,200 --> 01:02:24,840 Speaker 1: I just got offered a record deal And she said 1278 01:02:24,840 --> 01:02:27,120 Speaker 1: what did they say? I'm like, I said, they asked 1279 01:02:27,120 --> 01:02:29,440 Speaker 1: me if I had managers and attorney and what did 1280 01:02:29,440 --> 01:02:31,840 Speaker 1: you say? As I told him yeah, And She's like, well, 1281 01:02:32,320 --> 01:02:34,880 Speaker 1: you got a manager? Like and I'm like, no, I 1282 01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:38,560 Speaker 1: gotta find a manager. I didn't have nothing. You know 1283 01:02:38,840 --> 01:02:42,040 Speaker 1: that's wild that it all came from a horse, from 1284 01:02:42,040 --> 01:02:45,000 Speaker 1: from a guy who boarded horses. Crazy. He owned Joe 1285 01:02:45,040 --> 01:02:47,320 Speaker 1: go Quick, the world champion quarter horse at the time, 1286 01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:50,080 Speaker 1: and I would take him music and if Jeff liked it, 1287 01:02:50,120 --> 01:02:52,200 Speaker 1: he would let me ride Joe, and if he didn't 1288 01:02:52,200 --> 01:02:55,800 Speaker 1: like song, he put me. Well. How did you and 1289 01:02:55,800 --> 01:02:57,520 Speaker 1: Blake become friends? How did you? Because it seems like 1290 01:02:57,520 --> 01:03:03,160 Speaker 1: he got pretty close we were and are we still are? Um? 1291 01:03:03,240 --> 01:03:05,840 Speaker 1: You know, I don't. Blake had got here before I did. 1292 01:03:05,960 --> 01:03:09,280 Speaker 1: Blake was working on his career long before, not long before, 1293 01:03:09,280 --> 01:03:11,440 Speaker 1: but a few years before I got here, and so 1294 01:03:11,520 --> 01:03:14,360 Speaker 1: he had started having some radio success. And we we 1295 01:03:14,520 --> 01:03:19,680 Speaker 1: literally met at a some event in Nashville and just 1296 01:03:19,760 --> 01:03:22,720 Speaker 1: started hanging out. And then he had lived in Hittman 1297 01:03:22,760 --> 01:03:25,040 Speaker 1: County and I was in Dixon, so we weren't that 1298 01:03:25,120 --> 01:03:29,280 Speaker 1: far apart. Uh both realized that we liked hunting. I 1299 01:03:29,360 --> 01:03:31,560 Speaker 1: invited him on a hunting trip on a trip that 1300 01:03:31,600 --> 01:03:35,920 Speaker 1: I was doing in Kansas. I'm sorry, yeah, in Kansas. 1301 01:03:36,560 --> 01:03:42,640 Speaker 1: And at that trip we became like we we were buddies. 1302 01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:46,320 Speaker 1: I knew right then that I liked the guy. Uh 1303 01:03:46,400 --> 01:03:48,240 Speaker 1: and and and and we were both kind of like 1304 01:03:48,240 --> 01:03:50,920 Speaker 1: I said, he had already had a couple of songs 1305 01:03:50,920 --> 01:03:55,120 Speaker 1: on the radio, and and then I started having some 1306 01:03:55,280 --> 01:04:00,400 Speaker 1: success at Broken Bow. Uh. And then we just stayed 1307 01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:02,400 Speaker 1: in touch. I mean at one point we were we 1308 01:04:02,400 --> 01:04:05,240 Speaker 1: were with each other all the time. Every time we 1309 01:04:05,280 --> 01:04:08,880 Speaker 1: could do something together we would uh. And then he 1310 01:04:08,960 --> 01:04:14,600 Speaker 1: got divorced from Cat and he and Miranda got married. 1311 01:04:15,400 --> 01:04:18,560 Speaker 1: And I had known Miranda a little bit uh, and 1312 01:04:18,600 --> 01:04:22,280 Speaker 1: really thought that Miranda and I had a decent relationship. Um. 1313 01:04:22,320 --> 01:04:24,280 Speaker 1: And she used to tell a story about how she 1314 01:04:24,400 --> 01:04:27,240 Speaker 1: came to Fanfare and it was one of my early 1315 01:04:27,280 --> 01:04:29,040 Speaker 1: on first to or three years of fan Fair when 1316 01:04:29,040 --> 01:04:32,400 Speaker 1: he still called it fan Fair, you know. And she 1317 01:04:32,480 --> 01:04:34,760 Speaker 1: tells the story, and I remember her telling me that 1318 01:04:34,800 --> 01:04:37,960 Speaker 1: how she waited after the show to meet some of 1319 01:04:38,000 --> 01:04:40,120 Speaker 1: the artists and and that I came out and was 1320 01:04:40,160 --> 01:04:41,720 Speaker 1: the only one that came out afterwards and gave her 1321 01:04:41,760 --> 01:04:44,600 Speaker 1: an autograph. Uh. And so I thought, man, this is 1322 01:04:44,600 --> 01:04:48,000 Speaker 1: gonna be awesome. You know, my buddies marrying this girl 1323 01:04:48,080 --> 01:04:51,120 Speaker 1: who's turned into an artist of her own right and 1324 01:04:51,160 --> 01:04:54,840 Speaker 1: turned in this you know, it's great. But something happened 1325 01:04:54,880 --> 01:04:57,200 Speaker 1: with them too, got married, and it I don't know 1326 01:04:57,360 --> 01:05:00,160 Speaker 1: she she was no longer a Craig Morgan fan for 1327 01:05:00,200 --> 01:05:03,720 Speaker 1: some reason. You know, I don't know, um, but you 1328 01:05:03,720 --> 01:05:05,760 Speaker 1: know that's history. And here we are now. I remember 1329 01:05:05,760 --> 01:05:08,600 Speaker 1: when you can do in the opery Blake when him 1330 01:05:08,640 --> 01:05:11,000 Speaker 1: I think him and Gwen were playing from his ranch. 1331 01:05:11,520 --> 01:05:17,240 Speaker 1: I think, yeah, I was there. I've just I've done 1332 01:05:17,400 --> 01:05:21,080 Speaker 1: opery shows in the past year. But was he setting 1333 01:05:21,120 --> 01:05:23,040 Speaker 1: you up? Are you setting him up? Are you going 1334 01:05:23,080 --> 01:05:26,960 Speaker 1: back and forth? Always? It's yeah, it's horrible. I will 1335 01:05:26,960 --> 01:05:31,920 Speaker 1: tell you though. We Uh, when my son died a 1336 01:05:31,920 --> 01:05:35,560 Speaker 1: lot of my friends in this business came out there 1337 01:05:35,800 --> 01:05:39,000 Speaker 1: and and I had, man, I gained so much respect 1338 01:05:39,080 --> 01:05:45,080 Speaker 1: and admiration. Already loved all these people. But it's really weird. Uh, 1339 01:05:45,120 --> 01:05:48,680 Speaker 1: And Jerry was with me. It's it's weird when I 1340 01:05:48,840 --> 01:05:52,800 Speaker 1: know them and I love them and they're I consider 1341 01:05:52,880 --> 01:05:57,400 Speaker 1: them friends. But when I got like Trace Atkins, Blake Shelton, 1342 01:05:58,400 --> 01:06:00,880 Speaker 1: Jim N. Brown and John Colley, these guys show up 1343 01:06:00,920 --> 01:06:03,680 Speaker 1: at at my son's funeral and they stand in line 1344 01:06:04,640 --> 01:06:08,400 Speaker 1: with everyone else out there, asked nothing. I didn't want 1345 01:06:08,400 --> 01:06:11,960 Speaker 1: to come in early. You know, it just meant it 1346 01:06:12,000 --> 01:06:15,720 Speaker 1: just floored me. And when I'll never forget we were 1347 01:06:16,000 --> 01:06:19,480 Speaker 1: we were downstairs and Cec had come in and was talking. 1348 01:06:19,720 --> 01:06:24,000 Speaker 1: She's saying, at my son's funeral, and uh, you know, 1349 01:06:24,000 --> 01:06:27,680 Speaker 1: I'm trying to trying to I don't know have a 1350 01:06:27,800 --> 01:06:34,400 Speaker 1: sense of I wanted to comprehend my people and and 1351 01:06:34,400 --> 01:06:37,480 Speaker 1: and them to know that I appreciate them being there. 1352 01:06:37,480 --> 01:06:40,800 Speaker 1: But I remember Blake coming in and we cried, you know, 1353 01:06:40,880 --> 01:06:43,760 Speaker 1: we cried together, and he hugged me, and I felt 1354 01:06:43,840 --> 01:06:48,760 Speaker 1: such an embrace of friendship from him. Uh, And I knew. 1355 01:06:49,760 --> 01:06:53,440 Speaker 1: I knew then that there was nothing that Blake or 1356 01:06:53,640 --> 01:06:57,600 Speaker 1: I could do that would sever that friendship. It wouldn't happen. 1357 01:06:58,360 --> 01:07:02,120 Speaker 1: And I also, at that moment, became Gwen's biggest fan. 1358 01:07:03,040 --> 01:07:06,280 Speaker 1: I had met Gwen via FaceTime a few times when 1359 01:07:06,320 --> 01:07:09,320 Speaker 1: Blake and I were together, and he was like giddy, 1360 01:07:09,560 --> 01:07:13,400 Speaker 1: silly and love FaceTime and her and we would, uh, 1361 01:07:13,520 --> 01:07:15,200 Speaker 1: we would lay there together and sit and talk to 1362 01:07:15,240 --> 01:07:18,400 Speaker 1: Gwen her own FaceTime, you know. And and I really 1363 01:07:18,440 --> 01:07:22,040 Speaker 1: liked her, but I didn't really know her. But when 1364 01:07:22,080 --> 01:07:23,920 Speaker 1: he came in the room and I said, where's Gwynn? 1365 01:07:24,200 --> 01:07:26,320 Speaker 1: And you know, was she not able to come? He said, no, 1366 01:07:26,440 --> 01:07:30,480 Speaker 1: she's outside. Uh she was being respectful and she did 1367 01:07:30,520 --> 01:07:32,560 Speaker 1: not want to come in until she was invited in, 1368 01:07:33,360 --> 01:07:35,760 Speaker 1: and I just men, I thought, my lord, you know, 1369 01:07:35,920 --> 01:07:39,680 Speaker 1: she came in and she too like cried and hugged 1370 01:07:39,680 --> 01:07:42,960 Speaker 1: my wife and showed her such an embrace of friendship 1371 01:07:43,040 --> 01:07:46,360 Speaker 1: and kindness and warmth, and it just absolutely hammred me. 1372 01:07:46,360 --> 01:07:50,040 Speaker 1: And I've never experienced anything from her but that since, 1373 01:07:50,680 --> 01:07:52,760 Speaker 1: you know, when we're at the award shows and he's like, 1374 01:07:52,840 --> 01:07:54,160 Speaker 1: let's get out of here for a few minutes, and 1375 01:07:54,200 --> 01:07:56,520 Speaker 1: we got out the bus and hang out, and they're 1376 01:07:56,560 --> 01:07:59,720 Speaker 1: just He's in such a beautiful place with her that 1377 01:07:59,760 --> 01:08:03,320 Speaker 1: I've never seen and I love that. I love it. Now. 1378 01:08:03,560 --> 01:08:06,000 Speaker 1: Having said all that, I can text Blake on Monday, 1379 01:08:07,240 --> 01:08:10,120 Speaker 1: April the first, and it might be Monday June one 1380 01:08:10,200 --> 01:08:15,080 Speaker 1: when I heard from he is the worst man. Uh, 1381 01:08:15,120 --> 01:08:17,200 Speaker 1: And then I'll get nothing a picture of him flipping 1382 01:08:17,200 --> 01:08:21,599 Speaker 1: me a bird or something, you know. Um. But yeah, 1383 01:08:21,680 --> 01:08:23,280 Speaker 1: so we've been friends for a long time. I mean 1384 01:08:23,280 --> 01:08:25,960 Speaker 1: he came out when I did read net y'all club, uh. 1385 01:08:25,960 --> 01:08:28,120 Speaker 1: And I remember when we did read net Yall Club, 1386 01:08:28,160 --> 01:08:31,240 Speaker 1: he had a huge hit and even you know, just 1387 01:08:31,280 --> 01:08:33,920 Speaker 1: to show you how weird this business is, I remember 1388 01:08:33,960 --> 01:08:36,360 Speaker 1: talking to Blake, him going, man, I don't know if 1389 01:08:36,360 --> 01:08:38,320 Speaker 1: this is gonna work. I don't know what's gonna happen. 1390 01:08:38,400 --> 01:08:40,920 Speaker 1: I'm like, you got a big, huge hit, are you kidding? 1391 01:08:41,640 --> 01:08:43,439 Speaker 1: You know? And he's like yeah, but you just don't know. 1392 01:08:44,360 --> 01:08:46,200 Speaker 1: And now you look where he's at. You know, it's 1393 01:08:46,200 --> 01:08:48,920 Speaker 1: just it's wonderful. What is there left for you to do? 1394 01:08:49,240 --> 01:08:52,240 Speaker 1: You're just thinking about everything that you are doing, have done, 1395 01:08:52,479 --> 01:08:56,719 Speaker 1: are doing more than have done, between the music, the TV, 1396 01:08:57,680 --> 01:09:02,960 Speaker 1: the passions, walking nine mile to your house and everything, 1397 01:09:03,040 --> 01:09:05,360 Speaker 1: the opera, everything you stand for, all of the philanthropic 1398 01:09:05,400 --> 01:09:08,679 Speaker 1: work that you do, Like what what, What's what's happening? What? 1399 01:09:08,680 --> 01:09:10,719 Speaker 1: What is your vision for the next ten fifteen years? 1400 01:09:10,720 --> 01:09:13,680 Speaker 1: Like what what do you want to do? Um? I 1401 01:09:13,760 --> 01:09:17,640 Speaker 1: want to do good And I know it sounds super cheesy, 1402 01:09:17,680 --> 01:09:19,880 Speaker 1: but if you talk to anybody in my camp, they'll 1403 01:09:19,920 --> 01:09:23,040 Speaker 1: tell you. And if as long as I'm doing things 1404 01:09:23,080 --> 01:09:27,160 Speaker 1: that afford me the opportunities to do good things, I'm 1405 01:09:27,200 --> 01:09:30,000 Speaker 1: gonna keep doing it. And I also want to. I 1406 01:09:30,040 --> 01:09:33,439 Speaker 1: don't want to be in this business when I'm no 1407 01:09:33,680 --> 01:09:37,280 Speaker 1: longer relevant. I don't want to. I don't want to 1408 01:09:37,280 --> 01:09:38,600 Speaker 1: do it just because I want to do it. I 1409 01:09:38,600 --> 01:09:40,639 Speaker 1: want to do it because people want me to do it, 1410 01:09:41,000 --> 01:09:44,360 Speaker 1: because they want to hear it, and because when when 1411 01:09:44,400 --> 01:09:46,559 Speaker 1: I do some of these things. For example, I just 1412 01:09:46,600 --> 01:09:52,000 Speaker 1: did a military benefit UH to raise money for a 1413 01:09:52,240 --> 01:09:56,439 Speaker 1: organization that provides trips for not only the veteran the warrior, 1414 01:09:56,520 --> 01:09:59,920 Speaker 1: but for his family. And after that event, when I 1415 01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:01,880 Speaker 1: got a text the next day from the guy who's 1416 01:10:01,960 --> 01:10:04,760 Speaker 1: over that said, we raised this much money, which is 1417 01:10:04,840 --> 01:10:07,960 Speaker 1: so much more than I had ever expected. Thank you 1418 01:10:08,240 --> 01:10:09,920 Speaker 1: for being a part of that. When I can no 1419 01:10:09,960 --> 01:10:13,240 Speaker 1: longer do those things, or when my impact at those 1420 01:10:13,280 --> 01:10:16,880 Speaker 1: events is not impacting, I'm gonna do something else and 1421 01:10:16,920 --> 01:10:20,080 Speaker 1: know that something else it's just spend more time in 1422 01:10:20,120 --> 01:10:24,519 Speaker 1: Alaska with my wife, in Florida with my wife and Dixon, 1423 01:10:24,560 --> 01:10:30,920 Speaker 1: Tennessee fishing and hunting and you know the kids. Um, 1424 01:10:31,200 --> 01:10:33,679 Speaker 1: I've already kind of transitioned into trying to do more 1425 01:10:33,760 --> 01:10:37,800 Speaker 1: of that. But I just want to do more of 1426 01:10:37,840 --> 01:10:42,479 Speaker 1: the good things. I wanna. I wanna transition my life's 1427 01:10:42,520 --> 01:10:48,880 Speaker 1: efforts into providing for those other things, not me. I mean, 1428 01:10:48,920 --> 01:10:51,080 Speaker 1: I got all I need, man, I've got more than 1429 01:10:51,160 --> 01:10:54,960 Speaker 1: I deserved. That is the truth. I want the people 1430 01:10:55,000 --> 01:10:58,200 Speaker 1: around me to prosper I liked it when I like 1431 01:10:58,320 --> 01:11:00,559 Speaker 1: to see that when guys that worked for me go 1432 01:11:00,680 --> 01:11:03,240 Speaker 1: on and are having success of their own, that's cool 1433 01:11:03,280 --> 01:11:09,200 Speaker 1: man to me. Yeah. Final question, have you been recording music? 1434 01:11:09,960 --> 01:11:12,760 Speaker 1: Are you going? Are you gonna have new music? What? 1435 01:11:12,760 --> 01:11:16,040 Speaker 1: What's happening here? Because it's been it's been a minute. 1436 01:11:17,000 --> 01:11:19,240 Speaker 1: I'm as excited about what I'm doing is anything I've 1437 01:11:19,280 --> 01:11:22,240 Speaker 1: ever done. So my wife is a big fan of 1438 01:11:22,280 --> 01:11:28,960 Speaker 1: me singing certain music life. He's not a big fan 1439 01:11:29,000 --> 01:11:34,240 Speaker 1: of my kindry music. Uh I love all music. If 1440 01:11:34,040 --> 01:11:35,880 Speaker 1: I mean, I can go all the way back to 1441 01:11:35,920 --> 01:11:40,400 Speaker 1: the very beginning of our conversation. Who is Lina Richie Luther? 1442 01:11:40,720 --> 01:11:46,599 Speaker 1: I love I love, love love music with the emotion, energy, soul. 1443 01:11:47,680 --> 01:11:52,120 Speaker 1: You know I love that. Uh So, my next project 1444 01:11:53,080 --> 01:11:55,840 Speaker 1: that I am in the process of working on is 1445 01:11:55,840 --> 01:11:58,920 Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna sing with those people whose music I love. 1446 01:11:59,520 --> 01:12:02,800 Speaker 1: I'm trying to cool. I wanna, I wanna. You know, 1447 01:12:03,520 --> 01:12:05,800 Speaker 1: I'm a huge Kelly Clarkson fan. I love to hear 1448 01:12:05,840 --> 01:12:09,160 Speaker 1: her sing. She's a monster in my opinion, and I 1449 01:12:09,160 --> 01:12:11,280 Speaker 1: want to I want to sing something with Kelly. I 1450 01:12:11,320 --> 01:12:14,120 Speaker 1: want to sing something with that Sharon. I want to 1451 01:12:14,160 --> 01:12:16,120 Speaker 1: sing something with c C. Juannas. I want to sing 1452 01:12:16,160 --> 01:12:18,880 Speaker 1: something with Liona Ritchie. I want to do those and 1453 01:12:18,920 --> 01:12:20,960 Speaker 1: it might be one of their songs, maybe one of 1454 01:12:20,960 --> 01:12:23,719 Speaker 1: my songs, maybe something that we write, maybe something I'm writing. 1455 01:12:24,000 --> 01:12:26,519 Speaker 1: I just wrote a song. I think it's one of 1456 01:12:26,520 --> 01:12:29,200 Speaker 1: the better songs I've ever written, and it's it's not 1457 01:12:29,280 --> 01:12:33,160 Speaker 1: a straight up country. I'm sure it probably sounds country, um, 1458 01:12:33,280 --> 01:12:35,439 Speaker 1: but to me, it's not a country song. It's more 1459 01:12:35,439 --> 01:12:38,120 Speaker 1: of a soul song. And I want to record that 1460 01:12:38,200 --> 01:12:41,040 Speaker 1: kind of stuff. And the label is all about so 1461 01:12:41,160 --> 01:12:44,720 Speaker 1: that's exciting. Well, listen, we've we've been talking for over 1462 01:12:44,760 --> 01:12:46,439 Speaker 1: an hour. I hope this wasn't too long. I could 1463 01:12:46,439 --> 01:12:48,800 Speaker 1: sit here and do another hour. I could too with you, dude. 1464 01:12:48,800 --> 01:12:53,280 Speaker 1: I love talking to you, you know, and I'm sorry. Uh. 1465 01:12:53,320 --> 01:12:56,200 Speaker 1: You know we shared a label relationship there for a 1466 01:12:56,240 --> 01:13:02,680 Speaker 1: minute on Black Yeah, and I remember thinking, uh, I mean, 1467 01:13:02,960 --> 01:13:05,639 Speaker 1: and I'm not gonna make stuff up. TOLDJ I said, really, 1468 01:13:05,680 --> 01:13:07,439 Speaker 1: I think I'd like to get to know this guy 1469 01:13:07,520 --> 01:13:11,439 Speaker 1: better because I think there's something there that I can't see. 1470 01:13:12,600 --> 01:13:17,559 Speaker 1: Because you know, you were a national syndicated show host 1471 01:13:17,760 --> 01:13:20,320 Speaker 1: and you had your own band thing, so you were 1472 01:13:20,320 --> 01:13:22,880 Speaker 1: super busy doing all these other things. But I felt 1473 01:13:22,880 --> 01:13:25,120 Speaker 1: like there was a person there that I that I 1474 01:13:25,120 --> 01:13:27,800 Speaker 1: would probably do more with if I got to know. 1475 01:13:28,320 --> 01:13:33,599 Speaker 1: And in this business, it's it's weird. Man. Everybody, especially 1476 01:13:33,600 --> 01:13:35,880 Speaker 1: early in my career, would try to encourage me, you 1477 01:13:35,960 --> 01:13:37,639 Speaker 1: need to get to know this guy, spend some time 1478 01:13:37,680 --> 01:13:40,920 Speaker 1: with this guy. I'm like, okay, cool, I found you know, 1479 01:13:40,960 --> 01:13:43,639 Speaker 1: and I try, but there was nothing men this guy 1480 01:13:43,680 --> 01:13:46,280 Speaker 1: had in time. It's like, look, if me and this guy, 1481 01:13:46,320 --> 01:13:49,559 Speaker 1: that's why I love Blake, Blake and I. If we 1482 01:13:49,560 --> 01:13:51,559 Speaker 1: weren't in this business, Blake and I would still be 1483 01:13:51,600 --> 01:13:53,599 Speaker 1: hanging out on a Friday night having a beer, talking 1484 01:13:53,640 --> 01:13:56,439 Speaker 1: about certain things or wine, or we'd be making fun 1485 01:13:56,439 --> 01:13:58,000 Speaker 1: of each other, like we do. You know what I'm saying. 1486 01:13:58,720 --> 01:14:01,519 Speaker 1: That's why that worked. It's now actual. I've never forced 1487 01:14:01,520 --> 01:14:03,640 Speaker 1: an issue on a I've never forced a relationship in 1488 01:14:03,680 --> 01:14:06,040 Speaker 1: this business. Not one of the people that I know 1489 01:14:06,120 --> 01:14:08,719 Speaker 1: and love and hang out with when we're not doing 1490 01:14:08,760 --> 01:14:11,240 Speaker 1: this is someone that I wouldn't be doing that if 1491 01:14:11,240 --> 01:14:14,240 Speaker 1: I weren't in this business. And I found out long 1492 01:14:14,360 --> 01:14:16,479 Speaker 1: after the fact that Bobby Bones is one of those guys. 1493 01:14:16,479 --> 01:14:18,439 Speaker 1: That I probably would even if we weren't in this business. 1494 01:14:18,760 --> 01:14:20,559 Speaker 1: And it's taken a long time to get to that point, 1495 01:14:20,600 --> 01:14:22,240 Speaker 1: so which is why I can talk to you forever. Well, 1496 01:14:22,240 --> 01:14:23,560 Speaker 1: that's nice to me to say. I think you're a 1497 01:14:23,600 --> 01:14:29,679 Speaker 1: lot cooler, stronger, tougher worldly. Now you play that wimpy guy, 1498 01:14:30,600 --> 01:14:34,719 Speaker 1: all of that whatever, but playing the act, buddy, Listen, 1499 01:14:34,920 --> 01:14:43,000 Speaker 1: sell the books, get the TV shows, play the geek whatever, Craig. 1500 01:14:43,080 --> 01:14:45,840 Speaker 1: Good to talk to you, my friend. It's been fantastic. 1501 01:14:45,920 --> 01:14:48,280 Speaker 1: I'm so grateful that you cant. You know, I'm a fan. 1502 01:14:48,400 --> 01:14:52,200 Speaker 1: So I'll Alaska in February. You guys are coming up. 1503 01:14:52,560 --> 01:14:56,920 Speaker 1: I'm more of a Florida guy. It's just a long way. 1504 01:14:57,080 --> 01:14:59,040 Speaker 1: It's just a long ways up there. It is. What 1505 01:14:59,120 --> 01:15:01,360 Speaker 1: if I flew you up on a plane. It's just 1506 01:15:01,400 --> 01:15:03,960 Speaker 1: a long ways up there. Privately, I hear you. It 1507 01:15:04,080 --> 01:15:06,439 Speaker 1: just a long ways up there, Like that's I gonna 1508 01:15:06,479 --> 01:15:10,639 Speaker 1: hug me. I'll be honest with you. I mean you everywhere. 1509 01:15:11,000 --> 01:15:17,800 Speaker 1: I just you're gonna do it. You're probably she would 1510 01:15:17,800 --> 01:15:20,400 Speaker 1: love it. You get the fun gear and you're warm, 1511 01:15:20,560 --> 01:15:23,960 Speaker 1: and you set out in a like semi iglue around 1512 01:15:23,960 --> 01:15:28,439 Speaker 1: the fire and then at night, you watch Netflix movies 1513 01:15:28,520 --> 01:15:33,280 Speaker 1: on a big screen electricity. How do you have WiFi? 1514 01:15:33,680 --> 01:15:37,439 Speaker 1: Nine walk. I actually do have this little WiFi box 1515 01:15:37,640 --> 01:15:40,600 Speaker 1: thing that we started using and I put it in 1516 01:15:40,640 --> 01:15:43,720 Speaker 1: the window and you get enough WiFi that you can 1517 01:15:43,760 --> 01:15:47,639 Speaker 1: send emails and text messages. And I've literally been able 1518 01:15:47,680 --> 01:15:50,720 Speaker 1: to depend on the weather download Netflix from it. We 1519 01:15:51,320 --> 01:15:52,960 Speaker 1: in our cabin in Arkansas, we did had one of 1520 01:15:52,960 --> 01:15:55,960 Speaker 1: those little boxing and wife I went out, so we 1521 01:15:56,040 --> 01:15:58,280 Speaker 1: used it for three days and I got my bills 1522 01:15:58,280 --> 01:16:02,840 Speaker 1: like seven oh no. We did stream, just stream shows. 1523 01:16:02,920 --> 01:16:06,160 Speaker 1: It was like here's your mill seven and eighteen dollars 1524 01:16:06,160 --> 01:16:09,599 Speaker 1: for a while. Five box. You guys follow and follow 1525 01:16:09,640 --> 01:16:13,360 Speaker 1: Craig on TikTok. Uh on TikTok, It's Craig Morgan eighty five. 1526 01:16:13,880 --> 01:16:16,840 Speaker 1: Uh see Morgan music on Instagram. You have all these 1527 01:16:16,840 --> 01:16:18,519 Speaker 1: different names. Tell your people, I know you have them. 1528 01:16:18,520 --> 01:16:21,040 Speaker 1: They need to unify that thing. You know, I know, 1529 01:16:21,160 --> 01:16:24,080 Speaker 1: and they should. I don't even know. Problem. You see 1530 01:16:24,120 --> 01:16:26,280 Speaker 1: they do that stuff and then I go, I got 1531 01:16:26,320 --> 01:16:29,439 Speaker 1: this man, I can do it. And then I end 1532 01:16:29,520 --> 01:16:34,000 Speaker 1: up starting Craig Morgan eighty five. I like, why did 1533 01:16:34,040 --> 01:16:35,360 Speaker 1: you do that? Why didn't you do? See them all 1534 01:16:35,400 --> 01:16:39,600 Speaker 1: access like everything, like I have no clue about and 1535 01:16:39,640 --> 01:16:42,120 Speaker 1: now they're like can you do this? And they're like what, man, 1536 01:16:42,160 --> 01:16:44,800 Speaker 1: you gotta show me what button to push? Just give 1537 01:16:44,880 --> 01:16:49,080 Speaker 1: My wife hates that stuff, man, she absolutely hates me 1538 01:16:49,160 --> 01:16:52,160 Speaker 1: trying to get her to do something with me, Like 1539 01:16:52,240 --> 01:16:53,960 Speaker 1: I want to do the thing. I'm afraid my wife 1540 01:16:54,000 --> 01:16:56,240 Speaker 1: would leave me though, Like if this is terrible, I 1541 01:16:56,280 --> 01:16:58,479 Speaker 1: don't know if we should say this, but like there's 1542 01:16:58,479 --> 01:17:02,760 Speaker 1: something trending on talk. It's so bad, y'all, Like these 1543 01:17:02,800 --> 01:17:05,439 Speaker 1: guys fart in a bag and then like tell them 1544 01:17:05,439 --> 01:17:09,280 Speaker 1: that it's gas and get him to snippet or to 1545 01:17:09,400 --> 01:17:12,439 Speaker 1: inhale it. Like I'm afraid if I did that, she 1546 01:17:12,439 --> 01:17:17,000 Speaker 1: would diforce, she would leave me. Listen, we've gone off 1547 01:17:17,000 --> 01:17:20,920 Speaker 1: the rails. Alright, alright, but thank you, thank you, thank you. 1548 01:17:20,960 --> 01:17:22,360 Speaker 1: It's been fantastic here