WEBVTT - Mark Sanchez Discusses the Jets Coaching Search (1/14)

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome into the Official Jests Podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Dangling a stake in front of the lion and you

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<v Speaker 1>Shine Bright, Do Good with Kendrew Scott. Mark. It's been

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<v Speaker 1>a little while. How are you and the family doing

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<v Speaker 1>in southern California?

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<v Speaker 2>Buddy? We're doing great, no complaints here. Just finished our

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<v Speaker 2>season with Fox calling games, so this is this is

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<v Speaker 2>the off season and what my what my wife likes

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<v Speaker 2>to call Perry season, So it's really about her and

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<v Speaker 2>Daniel and catching up with my good buddies in New York.

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<v Speaker 2>So thanks for having me always listen.

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<v Speaker 1>How much do you enjoy being in the booth at

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<v Speaker 1>Fox this year?

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<v Speaker 3>And can you tell us about all the games that

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<v Speaker 3>you took in from a thirty thousand foot view as

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<v Speaker 3>far as where's that NFL trending right now?

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<v Speaker 2>Listen? I love what I get to do. I'm so

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<v Speaker 2>grateful for Fox keeping me around, and this is the

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<v Speaker 2>total dream job, you know, and there's only so many

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<v Speaker 2>of there's less broadcasters for games, then there are quarterbacks

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<v Speaker 2>in the NFL. So I got to be one of

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<v Speaker 2>thirty two for a little while and then you know,

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<v Speaker 2>now we're one of eighteen or whatever it is. So

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<v Speaker 2>I'm incredibly blessed and grateful to Fox. But this is

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<v Speaker 2>i'd like to say, you know, the healthiest I've felt.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't get hit in the booth, which is nice.

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<v Speaker 2>An occasional ribbing from your partner, whether it was Kevin

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<v Speaker 2>Coogler or Adam Amein or Chris Myers when they want

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<v Speaker 2>to talk and I need to be quiet, so I'll

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<v Speaker 2>handle that. It's much better than getting sacked by Dwight

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<v Speaker 2>Freeney or somebody like that. So that's nice. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>i'd like to think four years now, we're undefeated. Baby,

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<v Speaker 2>we ain't lost the game in the booth, so I'm

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<v Speaker 2>doing pretty gooft.

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<v Speaker 3>We've talked about it before, but you see the game

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<v Speaker 3>in a different lens. How do you go about providing

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<v Speaker 3>color to not only somebody who played maybe amateur football,

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<v Speaker 3>or they play college football, but also connecting to the

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<v Speaker 3>lady on the couch who doesn't have any football experience.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I really do try and go back to

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<v Speaker 2>some of my favorite coaches sayings, some of the coach speak,

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<v Speaker 2>and those funny little things that have just found a

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<v Speaker 2>way to ingrain themselves in my brain. You know, whether

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<v Speaker 2>it's the way you groom a quarterback is like raising

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<v Speaker 2>a child, so immediately you have a broad audience. Anybody

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<v Speaker 2>watching that has a child can relate to what you're

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<v Speaker 2>about to say. And a lot of times you tell

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<v Speaker 2>that child, hey, buddy, I don't think you should touch

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<v Speaker 2>that stove. It's hot and you're going to burn yourselves.

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<v Speaker 2>But what happens They go out and do it themselves.

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<v Speaker 2>And quarterbacks are the same way. They go out and

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<v Speaker 2>try and force the ball when you tell them not to.

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<v Speaker 2>You tell them who the best player on the other

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<v Speaker 2>team is, and hey, we're gonna try and avoid that

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<v Speaker 2>guy for this game until we get to this situation

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, your quarterback gets a little antsy, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>somebody like me, and you throw the interception, you touch

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<v Speaker 2>the hot stove. So the best I can relate it

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<v Speaker 2>to people, the everyday person who happened to be watching.

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<v Speaker 2>And then at times when there's you know, a great

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<v Speaker 2>opportunity to really dive into the x's and o's, then

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<v Speaker 2>then I'll do that. But you can't do it all

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<v Speaker 2>the time. You got to pick your spots. And you

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<v Speaker 2>know that that little yellow crayon that we get and

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<v Speaker 2>all those cool graphics we get to use on the

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<v Speaker 2>tellustrator from Fingerworks. They give us a lot of options,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's about when to use them, how to use them,

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<v Speaker 2>how much to use them. And that's that's the tightrope

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<v Speaker 2>that I'm walking during games. But I think I think

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<v Speaker 2>it's important there to try and give your perspective. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>obviously gonna give a quarterback perspective. I don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>be a quarterback apologist, but I also understand what goes

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<v Speaker 2>into that position. So if anything, you know, my favorite

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<v Speaker 2>thing is I'll never look at Twitter, like during games,

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<v Speaker 2>after games whatever, talking about announcing. But my brother Brandon,

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<v Speaker 2>who you know, he'll he'll always text me occasionally, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like during the week or something, and we'll have Minnesota

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<v Speaker 2>at Seattle, let's say, and you know he'll he'll see

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<v Speaker 2>them at marked underscore Sanchez. Oh, you're such a homer

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<v Speaker 2>for this. For the Seahawks. It's because you know Geno.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh that's that's so messed up, you know, and then

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<v Speaker 2>he'll see another one. I can't believe you love the

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<v Speaker 2>Vikings this much. It's because of Kevin O'Connell. And so

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<v Speaker 2>I know, if I get heat on both sides, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>probably right down the middle, probably right in the fairway

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<v Speaker 2>where I need to be. So that's kind of my gauge,

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<v Speaker 2>just you know, unofficially, and and fun between my brother

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<v Speaker 2>and I, who's constantly and cheeking me as well. But

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<v Speaker 2>it's it's fun, you have. I have a great view

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<v Speaker 2>of the whole thing, and I have pretty good experience

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<v Speaker 2>on how this whole operation should look like and what

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<v Speaker 2>it's how it's supposed to work and stuff, at least

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<v Speaker 2>from my experience, and so I try and impart that knowledge,

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<v Speaker 2>trying to be self defecating, trying to teach somebody something,

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<v Speaker 2>hopefully make somebody laugh, and uh, you know, teach him

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<v Speaker 2>a little football.

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<v Speaker 3>Who would have thought back in your playing days that

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<v Speaker 3>you and Tom Brady would beat teammates Here are twenty

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<v Speaker 3>twenty four, twenty five.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't make it.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, it's so funny. We were both actually the same

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<v Speaker 2>place for New Year's and he had a Saints game

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<v Speaker 2>coming up, and so he hadn't had the Saints since

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<v Speaker 2>like Week two, and this is his first season calling games,

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<v Speaker 2>and what an improvement he's made. I think, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>he's once again he's my teammates, so I'm always going

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<v Speaker 2>to speak highly of him. But you know, he's working

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<v Speaker 2>hard at it, and it's not an easy thing to do,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's not an easy thing to welcome a guy

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<v Speaker 2>who kind of owned your division, not kind of, but

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<v Speaker 2>owned our division in the AFC East for a long time.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know that those were some heated battles against

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<v Speaker 2>that squad, so you got to kind of check your

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<v Speaker 2>baggage and help your teammate. But I knew what he

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<v Speaker 2>was going through and not seeing a team for nine,

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<v Speaker 2>ten to eleven weeks, and you have him early in

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<v Speaker 2>the season, and now you got him the last game

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<v Speaker 2>of the season. They're trying to get in the playoffs whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>That's really hard to catch up on all that film,

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<v Speaker 2>all that tape, so you gotta, you know, kind of

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<v Speaker 2>get through some stuff quickly and read through some of

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<v Speaker 2>those games, watch the tape and you're blinking through tape,

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<v Speaker 2>so your eyes are almost bleeding. So it was just

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<v Speaker 2>great to catch up with him and you know, talk

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<v Speaker 2>to little Saints because I literally just came off a

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<v Speaker 2>Saints game and I was like, dude, they got this

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<v Speaker 2>guy in. This guy's been on IR since your game boom,

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<v Speaker 2>and so it was nice to communicate like that. And

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<v Speaker 2>I'm glad Fox gives us that, you know, team and

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<v Speaker 2>family mentality and atmosphere where where we can really help

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<v Speaker 2>each other out. And you know, whether it's Vilma, Greg

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<v Speaker 2>Olson and those guys, you know, you contact those guys

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<v Speaker 2>and just hit them out. Hey, man, you had the

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<v Speaker 2>Falcons game last week, buddy, what's the deal? Give me?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, a couple one liners on this specific player.

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<v Speaker 2>He just bursts on the scene. What's your take? What

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<v Speaker 2>did you see? And what did you see a practice?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, how did that interview go? We don't get

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<v Speaker 2>to interview him this week. How was the that kind

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<v Speaker 2>of stuff. It really matters, and I think it comes

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<v Speaker 2>across in the broadcast. The more information you have it

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<v Speaker 2>always helps.

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<v Speaker 1>All Right, we got a lot of jets to get to.

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<v Speaker 3>But when you and Brady are together in that kind

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<v Speaker 3>of situation and maybe you're having a soft drink. Did

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<v Speaker 3>you ever talk about the memories of going at it

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<v Speaker 3>that rivalry Jets Patriots?

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<v Speaker 2>No, we actually we actually didn't get into that. We

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<v Speaker 2>were talking more broadcasting and more about different teams we've seen.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's interesting when you get to see this many

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<v Speaker 2>teams week in and week out, and you see certain

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<v Speaker 2>teams on a Friday practice and they set themselves apart, right,

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<v Speaker 2>they separate themselves by one, the talent on the roster,

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<v Speaker 2>to the coaching staff they have, and the overall atmosphere

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<v Speaker 2>that you feel when you walk in somebody's building. So

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<v Speaker 2>I relate it to if you've ever gone to like

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<v Speaker 2>a dog breeder, and you got to look at all

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<v Speaker 2>these puppies and there's fifteen of them in this litter. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>one of them is gonna be the dominant puppy, one

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<v Speaker 2>of them is gonna be really aggressive, one of them

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<v Speaker 2>is gonna be a little more reserved, one of them

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<v Speaker 2>is gonna be, you know, whining more than the others.

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<v Speaker 2>One of them is gonna be barking more than the

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<v Speaker 2>So you just get to see them all together and

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<v Speaker 2>you get to compare them in the same environment, so

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<v Speaker 2>you really see what separates a lot of these teams.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's it'll be no surprise to you, but

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<v Speaker 2>the Kansas City practice I went to on a Friday,

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<v Speaker 2>it was before Christmas, not this season, but the year before.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think the ball hit the ground until maybe

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<v Speaker 2>like the second to last play of team, like the

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<v Speaker 2>team reps and this is later in the year, so

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<v Speaker 2>you're starting to cut down on reps, but they were

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<v Speaker 2>still pretty heavy compared to some other teams. A lot

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<v Speaker 2>of teams are walking through on Friday. Everybody's schedules a

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<v Speaker 2>little different. But it was almost as if, and not

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<v Speaker 2>almost the team knew that this practice was an elite

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<v Speaker 2>level practice and this was up to their standard. And

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<v Speaker 2>when the ball hit the ground of the back of

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<v Speaker 2>the back corner of the end zone, like right off

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<v Speaker 2>the guy's fingertips, everybody, even me, go, oh, it's like

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<v Speaker 2>as if we were rooting for the team in that

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<v Speaker 2>practice because it was so good. And that's the kind

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<v Speaker 2>of standard that Andy Reid and that entire coaching staff

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<v Speaker 2>and the players that they've acquired the GM. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>that's the standard that they adhere to and there are

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<v Speaker 2>no substitutes for anything less. So you can see it

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<v Speaker 2>across the league with these teams, and it's pretty lucky

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<v Speaker 2>to get to see that.

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<v Speaker 3>You're the last guy who took a playoff snap for

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<v Speaker 3>this franchise on a cold, wintry day with Pittsburgh, you

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<v Speaker 3>know we had them too.

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<v Speaker 1>So but you came here.

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<v Speaker 3>You came here to training camp prior to the twenty

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<v Speaker 3>twenty four to twenty five season.

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<v Speaker 1>You watch Rogers out there on that field.

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<v Speaker 3>When you see the Jets finish five and twelve, finish

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<v Speaker 3>with an interim head coach with Jeff Albrick in interim

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<v Speaker 3>GM and fell Savage, do a wonder how this all unfolded?

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<v Speaker 3>How are we sitting here right now.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's so hard to put your finger on one

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<v Speaker 2>specific thing. But I will say, and I know that

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<v Speaker 2>this isn't because it's the Jets, This is any team

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<v Speaker 2>that's five and twelve. This is you know, look at

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<v Speaker 2>the Commanders last year compared to this yere, look at

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<v Speaker 2>Dan Campbell and the Lions a few years back as

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<v Speaker 2>opposed to these past two years. Like it takes time.

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<v Speaker 2>This whole thing isn't instant. Grits and I know everybody

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<v Speaker 2>wants that. Just give me the answers, now plug and play.

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<v Speaker 2>We got Aaron Rodgers wore winning a Super Bowl. Sure

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<v Speaker 2>that sounds good. It doesn't always equate to that, right,

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<v Speaker 2>the theory versus the practice idea, and so it's it's

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<v Speaker 2>hard to put your finger on it. But I'm telling

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<v Speaker 2>you five and twelve is I mean, we're talking a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of plays throughout the season, a game, a bounce,

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<v Speaker 2>an injury that you go from five to twelve to

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<v Speaker 2>twelve and five. And I know it sounds crazy. I

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<v Speaker 2>promise you. I know it sounds crazy. And oh you're

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<v Speaker 2>saying that because it's the Jets podcast. I'd say it

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<v Speaker 2>on any team's podcast, thirty one other teams, i'd say it.

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<v Speaker 2>And it really is. I mean, Kansas City was struggling

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<v Speaker 2>for years until Andy Reid came in, So what's the difference.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think it's tough when you go through one

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<v Speaker 2>the injuries. I mean, nobody can control that. Everybody tries

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<v Speaker 2>to do their best to mitigate those things and hopefully

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<v Speaker 2>you get hit if you do early in the season

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<v Speaker 2>and guys come back they're not season enders. And you

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<v Speaker 2>get everybody healthy and you kind of crescendo into the

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<v Speaker 2>playoffs with your playing ability and availability. But these are

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<v Speaker 2>difficult things. You get decimated by injuries. You fire the

0:12:16.679 --> 0:12:19.920
<v Speaker 2>coach after week five and the two games prior it's

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<v Speaker 2>a one score game. You know, I don't know a

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<v Speaker 2>team and maybe there has been, but I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>a team that's made the playoffs after finding their coach

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<v Speaker 2>after five games or midway through the year, when you

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<v Speaker 2>have an interim head coach. And that I had nothing

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<v Speaker 2>to do with coach Olbrick, nothing to do with Robert Sola.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, that defense has been excellent for the last

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<v Speaker 2>few years. So it's really hard to put your finger

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<v Speaker 2>on it. And I'm just telling you the margin is

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<v Speaker 2>they're not that far off. I know it seems at

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<v Speaker 2>times you read stuff that fans say and oh man,

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<v Speaker 2>there's not a tent big enough for the circus and

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<v Speaker 2>this is a dumpster fire, and well, hold on now,

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<v Speaker 2>pump the brakes. Let's eliminate some of the emotion here

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<v Speaker 2>and get to some And you got a quarterback that

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<v Speaker 2>played all right, you know, better than al right. He

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<v Speaker 2>played better than his last year in Green Bay, coming

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<v Speaker 2>off of an achilles injury. So say what you want

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<v Speaker 2>about the guy, but he had you into the ball games,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, you got to figure out how to

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<v Speaker 2>help the guy playing quarterback, whether it's me, whether it's Aaron,

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<v Speaker 2>whether it's anybody in between. So I think there's there's

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of work.

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<v Speaker 1>That needs to be done, no doubt about that.

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<v Speaker 3>And the Jets GM and head coaching searches well underway.

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<v Speaker 3>We're going to hear about a number of candidates here

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<v Speaker 3>in the coming days and weeks. But from your perspective

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<v Speaker 3>as a guy who played quarterback, who played quarterback in

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<v Speaker 3>the AFC Championship Game consecutive years for this franchise, what's

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<v Speaker 3>most important when you're talking about GM, head coach, quarterback.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think those three are the holy trinity of

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<v Speaker 2>the NFL, and it's an owner that can find those

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<v Speaker 2>guys and they all have to be essentially in lockstep

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<v Speaker 2>or close enough to where they understand when they disagree,

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<v Speaker 2>it's okay, But we're going to continue rowing the boat

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<v Speaker 2>in the same direction and at least hopefully have a

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<v Speaker 2>similar lens to where they view things, or if they

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<v Speaker 2>have different lenses, then lenses that they can respect and

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<v Speaker 2>stuff that they can glean from each other to work together.

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<v Speaker 2>The perfect example is what they have going in Kansas City, Right,

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<v Speaker 2>you draft your quarterback that you want, he gets to

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<v Speaker 2>learn from an all pro in Alex Smith, and then

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<v Speaker 2>lights the world on fire because he's got a head

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<v Speaker 2>coach and a GM that believed in him, found him

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<v Speaker 2>in the draft, and put a ton of resources into

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<v Speaker 2>making sure that guy's life and his learning curve was

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<v Speaker 2>the right speed. And you know, they've done it, and

0:14:48.960 --> 0:14:51.800
<v Speaker 2>that's they're the anomaly, they're the outlier. But that's what

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<v Speaker 2>everybody's searching for, whether it's you know, we mentioned those

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<v Speaker 2>conversations with Tom Brady and we talked about different organizations

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<v Speaker 2>and even if him and Bill Belichick didn't agree at times,

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<v Speaker 2>they still knew which direction they were going. You don't

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<v Speaker 2>always have to agree. It doesn't always have to be perfect.

0:15:08.520 --> 0:15:11.800
<v Speaker 2>Bill Belichick's way isn't the only way to win games. Right.

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<v Speaker 2>There's other coaches who've had sustained success. Pete Carroll has

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<v Speaker 2>a different, you know, mode of operating than Bill Belichick.

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<v Speaker 2>So does Andy Reid. So there's different ways to attack

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<v Speaker 2>this thing. But you got to get people to buy in,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's got to be you know, one direction, everybody

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<v Speaker 2>rowing in the same direction, and it's really really hard

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<v Speaker 2>to get that. I think when we're talking specifically with

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<v Speaker 2>the New York Jets, you know, because this place is

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<v Speaker 2>so big, because the media is such a force in

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<v Speaker 2>the New York area and nationally, I think it would

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<v Speaker 2>help to have a coach that might not be their

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<v Speaker 2>first time, hopefully it's maybe their second or third rodeo,

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<v Speaker 2>if that makes sense, with head coaching experience, hopefully some

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<v Speaker 2>sustained success, maybe not you know, incredible success for a

0:16:02.440 --> 0:16:04.520
<v Speaker 2>long period of time, because a lot of times those

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<v Speaker 2>people aren't available or they've aged themselves out. So who's

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<v Speaker 2>out there with that experience? I mean, I understand the

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<v Speaker 2>argument for and against Rex Ryan, you know, I completely

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<v Speaker 2>get it. And as one of his former players listen,

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<v Speaker 2>we love playing for Rex was an excellent coach. He

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<v Speaker 2>did an excellent job for us, and he can't argue

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<v Speaker 2>with the success we had. Now do I think everything

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<v Speaker 2>was perfect? No? But I wasn't perfect. Rex wasn't perfect.

0:16:30.840 --> 0:16:34.440
<v Speaker 2>Mike Tannebaum wasn't perfect. So where can those things have

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<v Speaker 2>gotten cleaned up? How much has he learned from being

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<v Speaker 2>away from the game these few years being in Buffalo

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<v Speaker 2>for the couple of years he was there. I mean

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<v Speaker 2>that's a big factor. And then having you know, a

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<v Speaker 2>GM and coach that are you know, understand exactly what

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<v Speaker 2>it looks like. What are we trying to find here?

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<v Speaker 2>What kind of players are we looking for? What's our mentality?

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<v Speaker 2>Look at the Chargers, I mean, Jim Harbaugh, this team

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<v Speaker 2>to the playoffs this year, and I mean you look

0:17:03.760 --> 0:17:07.000
<v Speaker 2>at their roster. I don't think the Jets have a

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<v Speaker 2>worse roster than the Trucktures. If anything, I had to

0:17:09.160 --> 0:17:11.400
<v Speaker 2>say the other way around. But these guys somehow found

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<v Speaker 2>their way in the playoffs. So what's the difference.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, That's why the season, that's why the season

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<v Speaker 3>has been so maddening. This past season was so maddening

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<v Speaker 3>for the fans because you talk about the talented roster,

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<v Speaker 3>and then and you mentioned before as far as how

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<v Speaker 3>close it can be.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes the Jets were what three and seven and one score.

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<v Speaker 3>Games and they had six leads in the fourth quarter

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<v Speaker 3>where the other team ended up winning.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, so those those kind of examples. Look at

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<v Speaker 2>O'Connell's first year in Minnesota, they won like twelve one

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<v Speaker 2>score games. So sometimes you get to bounce a couple

0:17:48.600 --> 0:17:51.960
<v Speaker 2>of those games. Sometimes you're just so in tune with

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<v Speaker 2>those end of game mechanics and end of game situations

0:17:55.680 --> 0:17:58.600
<v Speaker 2>that you're going to out execute other teams. And really

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<v Speaker 2>you just don't give it away the other Most teams

0:18:02.240 --> 0:18:05.000
<v Speaker 2>lose games, most teams don't go win them. A lot

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<v Speaker 2>of teams are given away. If you got the lead

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<v Speaker 2>in the fourth quarter, you got to be thinking, all right, boys,

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<v Speaker 2>let's put a bowl on this thing and knock these

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<v Speaker 2>guys out. Let's go finish this game. We got to

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<v Speaker 2>learn how to finish. And it takes time to instill

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<v Speaker 2>that in a team, in a ball club, and it

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<v Speaker 2>takes offseason and reps. It takes you know, live reps

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<v Speaker 2>where you get to go in the situation, either succeed

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<v Speaker 2>or fail, come back to the very next day, watch

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<v Speaker 2>it as a team. You got to understand exactly what

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<v Speaker 2>made it work or exactly what made you fail, or

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<v Speaker 2>what you did to give the game away, and what

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<v Speaker 2>you allow because you're either coaching it or you're allowing

0:18:39.680 --> 0:18:43.199
<v Speaker 2>it to happen. Right, And that's that's the big argument.

0:18:43.280 --> 0:18:46.040
<v Speaker 2>When when you look at this ball club with all

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<v Speaker 2>those fourth quarter leads just find a way to finish.

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<v Speaker 2>I think a lot of that too, is special teams.

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's not just the quarterback, it's not just the receiver,

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<v Speaker 2>the O line, the D line. It's a collective unit

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<v Speaker 2>and those three phases offense, defense, and a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>times more importantly special teams. Just ask Jay Feely, Nick Folk.

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<v Speaker 2>Those guys hit some clutch, clutch field goals for us,

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<v Speaker 2>for the teams.

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<v Speaker 1>I was going now on field goals still to this day, That's.

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<v Speaker 2>What I'm saying. So like that wasn't just hey, Sanchez

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<v Speaker 2>won the game, No, we won the game. I made

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of play. Revis made some plays. Mangold made

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<v Speaker 2>the block, he had the strain that kept me in

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<v Speaker 2>the pocket, one extra half second to find Braylen Edwards

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<v Speaker 2>down the field. Santonio Holmes streaking across the middle. Like

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<v Speaker 2>those kind of things happen when everybody starts to come together,

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<v Speaker 2>when it when it really starts to gel. And you

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<v Speaker 2>know the kicking issue. You go through four kickers in

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<v Speaker 2>one year, and you start with Zerlin, sorry's five there

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<v Speaker 2>you go. I mean you start with Zerlin and he

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<v Speaker 2>was nails last year and then goes through his struggles.

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<v Speaker 2>Then you bring over a couple of different players. You

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<v Speaker 2>get Carlson, the brother of the kid in Vegas. The

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<v Speaker 2>kid in Vegas is an absolute stud. Carlson gets drafted

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<v Speaker 2>to green baylight last year in the sixth round. Remember

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<v Speaker 2>green Bay the youngest roster in the league still but

0:20:06.520 --> 0:20:10.400
<v Speaker 2>last year went to Dallas on the road, waxed them.

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<v Speaker 2>Then they go to San Francisco, who ends up in

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<v Speaker 2>the Super Bowl. Had the Chiefs on the ropes. They

0:20:17.560 --> 0:20:19.399
<v Speaker 2>have them on the ropes. I mean they got their

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<v Speaker 2>foot on their throat ready to end this game in

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<v Speaker 2>San Francisco and Carlson misses the kick gets cut boom.

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<v Speaker 2>Now he's on the Jets. Has a rough year. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean those games, those three points, when you know you

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<v Speaker 2>got a kicker like that, it completely changes your offensive mentality.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, as soon as we cross the forty boys,

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<v Speaker 2>we got points. Now it's got to be good. It's

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<v Speaker 2>got to be really good. Or we don't need to

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<v Speaker 2>force anything downfield. Two hands on the ball, play it smart,

0:20:48.720 --> 0:20:51.640
<v Speaker 2>play conservative. Our defense has got our back. Special team

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<v Speaker 2>is gonna win us field position and they're gonna get

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<v Speaker 2>us points. Like those kind of things like special team's

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<v Speaker 2>got to be a weapon. And you know, we were

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<v Speaker 2>pretty fortunate to have not just the coaches like our

0:21:05.000 --> 0:21:07.800
<v Speaker 2>guy west Off, even though he talked to a bunch

0:21:07.840 --> 0:21:12.280
<v Speaker 2>of snack about me and who else, Benny Kottwika Howika

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<v Speaker 2>was the man. I mean, getting guys to buy in

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<v Speaker 2>finding the brad Smiths and you know, using special teams

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<v Speaker 2>as the weapon, whether it's Peeley or Folk. That's that's

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<v Speaker 2>a big part of this whole operation. And that group,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, they're not just special team, they're special forces. Man.

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<v Speaker 2>They got to go in and do the dirty work.

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<v Speaker 2>They got to do stuff that other people don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to sign up to do, and they got to do

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<v Speaker 2>it with a smile and a toughness and an attitude.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's you know what I think the team was

0:21:39.840 --> 0:21:42.680
<v Speaker 2>missing a ton last year because it's not just offensive defense.

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<v Speaker 2>Those guys got to win some games for it.

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<v Speaker 1>How do you go about whomever this new leadership is?

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<v Speaker 3>How do you go about instilling a new culture because

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<v Speaker 3>there's a lot of talent here. We mentioned that, and

0:22:07.160 --> 0:22:11.560
<v Speaker 3>you have young guys who are dogs, Garrett Wilson, Breese Hall.

0:22:11.720 --> 0:22:14.960
<v Speaker 3>You got an offensive line that's got foundational pieces. You

0:22:15.040 --> 0:22:16.840
<v Speaker 3>can flip it to the other side of the ball.

0:22:16.880 --> 0:22:19.440
<v Speaker 3>And so you gotta Quinn Williams. You gotta Quincy Williams.

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<v Speaker 3>You know Jamie it's sure what his contracts up, well

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<v Speaker 3>to see what happens. But you got Sauce Gard in

0:22:24.080 --> 0:22:26.480
<v Speaker 3>the defensive backfield. There are pieces here.

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<v Speaker 1>But how do you go about coming in and stilling

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<v Speaker 1>a winning culture because some of these young guys that

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<v Speaker 1>I just mentioned, they haven't experienced winning yet.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, and they haven't experienced it since college probably, and

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<v Speaker 2>some of them are not even college. But like you

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<v Speaker 2>look at Sauce, you look at Garrett Wilson, I mean,

0:22:46.200 --> 0:22:49.040
<v Speaker 2>these guys are they got to decide on their fifth

0:22:49.080 --> 0:22:51.600
<v Speaker 2>year option because they're entering their fourth year. Brinese Hall

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<v Speaker 2>a little different because he was the second rounder. But

0:22:54.400 --> 0:22:56.520
<v Speaker 2>those first round guys, you need to make some decisions

0:22:56.560 --> 0:23:00.760
<v Speaker 2>on them and that kind of affects their mental entering

0:23:00.840 --> 0:23:02.880
<v Speaker 2>the year. Does this team really want me or am

0:23:02.880 --> 0:23:05.800
<v Speaker 2>I on a one year proven deal, and there's something

0:23:05.800 --> 0:23:07.840
<v Speaker 2>to be said for both of that, right for each

0:23:07.880 --> 0:23:11.080
<v Speaker 2>side of that. Keeping guys hungry but also making them

0:23:11.119 --> 0:23:12.600
<v Speaker 2>feel a part of the team, and that is a

0:23:12.640 --> 0:23:16.199
<v Speaker 2>tightrope walk across Niagara Fall. That's hard to do. So,

0:23:16.400 --> 0:23:19.600
<v Speaker 2>no matter what, the person coming in has to command

0:23:19.600 --> 0:23:22.720
<v Speaker 2>the respect of this ball club and guys have to

0:23:22.720 --> 0:23:26.280
<v Speaker 2>want to be there. Then once you get that, you

0:23:26.359 --> 0:23:30.120
<v Speaker 2>get guys there in the offseason, get guys around each other.

0:23:30.920 --> 0:23:33.080
<v Speaker 2>You've got to have some sort of success. You gotta.

0:23:34.040 --> 0:23:36.159
<v Speaker 2>It's once again, it's like raising kids. You got to

0:23:36.200 --> 0:23:38.600
<v Speaker 2>You gotta set them up for success, watch them go

0:23:38.720 --> 0:23:41.840
<v Speaker 2>through something, have the success, then they come back to

0:23:41.880 --> 0:23:44.280
<v Speaker 2>you for more. Hey, you told me this. I went

0:23:44.280 --> 0:23:47.480
<v Speaker 2>out and did it. It worked. I got the catch,

0:23:47.560 --> 0:23:49.920
<v Speaker 2>I made the throw, I made the block. I used

0:23:49.960 --> 0:23:53.400
<v Speaker 2>your technique and made the tackle. You know. I tackled

0:23:53.400 --> 0:23:56.600
<v Speaker 2>through the football, got the strip sack, we got the ball,

0:23:56.680 --> 0:23:58.840
<v Speaker 2>kicked the game winning field goal. That was awesome. Coach,

0:23:58.880 --> 0:24:01.160
<v Speaker 2>give me more. I need more, And so I think

0:24:01.240 --> 0:24:04.240
<v Speaker 2>a little bit of success early helps. I'm not saying

0:24:04.240 --> 0:24:06.600
<v Speaker 2>you got to start ten to zero, but there's gotta

0:24:06.640 --> 0:24:09.040
<v Speaker 2>be these little wins along the way. Whether it's the

0:24:09.080 --> 0:24:13.879
<v Speaker 2>actual game winning or incremental improvement to where guys want

0:24:14.080 --> 0:24:17.760
<v Speaker 2>more information, want more knowledge, want to be coached, and

0:24:17.800 --> 0:24:21.679
<v Speaker 2>coach hard It's easier said than done. It's really easy

0:24:21.720 --> 0:24:23.800
<v Speaker 2>on a podcast like this to talk about, Yeah, man,

0:24:23.800 --> 0:24:26.080
<v Speaker 2>we're gonna establish the culture and they're gonna respect it

0:24:26.119 --> 0:24:28.880
<v Speaker 2>and we're gonna win games. Well, yeah, that all sounds good,

0:24:28.880 --> 0:24:31.760
<v Speaker 2>but what does that look like? And it's somebody with

0:24:32.400 --> 0:24:35.240
<v Speaker 2>the real plan, with the blueprint, who's, in my opinion,

0:24:35.280 --> 0:24:39.000
<v Speaker 2>done it before, had that success, something that these players

0:24:39.080 --> 0:24:42.080
<v Speaker 2>can look back on and say, Man, I remember playing

0:24:42.080 --> 0:24:45.119
<v Speaker 2>against that guy or man that position group when he

0:24:45.160 --> 0:24:48.680
<v Speaker 2>coached that group, they were tough. They're always tough. They

0:24:48.720 --> 0:24:50.840
<v Speaker 2>always led the league in this, you know what I mean.

0:24:50.880 --> 0:24:53.280
<v Speaker 2>Like you get a basketball coach that comes over and

0:24:53.320 --> 0:24:56.000
<v Speaker 2>you watch their old tape. Man, these guys are on

0:24:56.000 --> 0:24:58.800
<v Speaker 2>the ground for every loose ball. These guys used four

0:24:58.840 --> 0:25:01.040
<v Speaker 2>of their five fouls every game. You know, this is

0:25:01.080 --> 0:25:04.240
<v Speaker 2>a tough unit. So that's what Hardball brought to the Chargers,

0:25:04.359 --> 0:25:06.040
<v Speaker 2>right and you could see it every place he's been.

0:25:06.400 --> 0:25:09.360
<v Speaker 2>He has that blueprint. So whoever you're bringing in, they're

0:25:09.359 --> 0:25:11.879
<v Speaker 2>gonna bring in their personality. And then they got to

0:25:11.880 --> 0:25:14.000
<v Speaker 2>get the guys buy in, have a little success early,

0:25:14.320 --> 0:25:17.400
<v Speaker 2>so they keep coming back for more. Then now you're

0:25:17.440 --> 0:25:19.720
<v Speaker 2>not only fighting you know, the adversity of losing for

0:25:19.760 --> 0:25:22.919
<v Speaker 2>so long, Then you gotta fight the adversity of winning,

0:25:23.280 --> 0:25:28.159
<v Speaker 2>right the Sometimes that's harder. Then, you know, once you

0:25:28.359 --> 0:25:32.080
<v Speaker 2>have the success, there's adversity to success in a weird way.

0:25:32.359 --> 0:25:35.240
<v Speaker 2>Right now everybody's the reason for the wins instead of

0:25:35.240 --> 0:25:37.800
<v Speaker 2>that collective group that got you there. Now everybody wants

0:25:37.880 --> 0:25:40.160
<v Speaker 2>theirs and everybody wants to get paid, which I respect.

0:25:40.880 --> 0:25:43.520
<v Speaker 2>But you know, how long can you harness that pure

0:25:44.520 --> 0:25:47.639
<v Speaker 2>love for each other for the game, for the practice,

0:25:48.200 --> 0:25:52.000
<v Speaker 2>for the film, for the weightlifting, for the running and conditioning,

0:25:52.040 --> 0:25:55.360
<v Speaker 2>the stuff you don't see on Sundays? Like how much

0:25:55.400 --> 0:25:57.320
<v Speaker 2>do you love that? And how many of those guys

0:25:57.320 --> 0:25:59.360
<v Speaker 2>on that roster are you going to fill spots with

0:25:59.800 --> 0:26:03.760
<v Speaker 2>the love that? So I think that's the crossroads that

0:26:03.760 --> 0:26:04.560
<v Speaker 2>the Jets are at.

0:26:05.160 --> 0:26:08.560
<v Speaker 3>Fair Enough, Jets Nation will sign up for those kinds

0:26:08.560 --> 0:26:13.320
<v Speaker 3>of problems, winning problems, And there are.

0:26:13.320 --> 0:26:15.080
<v Speaker 1>Dudes on both sides of the ball. I didn't even

0:26:15.080 --> 0:26:16.200
<v Speaker 1>mentioned Jermaine Johnson.

0:26:16.240 --> 0:26:19.080
<v Speaker 3>Coming back from Achilles, I talked to him the other day,

0:26:19.320 --> 0:26:21.919
<v Speaker 3>chomping at the beat. Will McDonald broke out in his

0:26:22.040 --> 0:26:25.879
<v Speaker 3>second year. I mean, but let's talk about the quarterback.

0:26:26.080 --> 0:26:30.320
<v Speaker 3>Aaron Rodgers statistically had one of the best seasons in

0:26:30.400 --> 0:26:31.600
<v Speaker 3>franchise history.

0:26:32.760 --> 0:26:34.679
<v Speaker 1>He started all seventeen games.

0:26:34.680 --> 0:26:37.359
<v Speaker 3>He gotta give him a ton of credit at forty

0:26:37.400 --> 0:26:42.840
<v Speaker 3>one years old, coming back from the Achilles battling through ankle, knee,

0:26:43.800 --> 0:26:48.159
<v Speaker 3>hamstring ailments to start every game. With that being said,

0:26:48.560 --> 0:26:52.639
<v Speaker 3>you're gonna have new football leadership here. He Aaron asks

0:26:52.640 --> 0:26:55.080
<v Speaker 3>his side what he wants to do. The Jets have

0:26:55.119 --> 0:26:59.480
<v Speaker 3>to decide what they want to do. From your perspective,

0:27:01.400 --> 0:27:04.040
<v Speaker 3>what are your thoughts what Aaron's going to go through,

0:27:04.200 --> 0:27:05.879
<v Speaker 3>and what are your thoughts would the Jets have to

0:27:05.920 --> 0:27:07.639
<v Speaker 3>go through because not only right now do they have

0:27:07.720 --> 0:27:11.960
<v Speaker 3>Rogers under contract Tyrod Taylor, you also drafted a young

0:27:12.040 --> 0:27:14.240
<v Speaker 3>kid out of Florida State who was working to get

0:27:14.280 --> 0:27:18.200
<v Speaker 3>his get back, and that's Jordan Travis. And then people

0:27:18.240 --> 0:27:20.439
<v Speaker 3>look at the draft and say, hey, the Jets are

0:27:20.480 --> 0:27:23.399
<v Speaker 3>probably going to be looking at a another young pastor.

0:27:23.400 --> 0:27:25.800
<v Speaker 1>We'll just see how that all unfolds.

0:27:26.000 --> 0:27:28.479
<v Speaker 2>So I think when you talk about the quarterback position,

0:27:28.640 --> 0:27:34.760
<v Speaker 2>there's you know, the there's a production aspect, there is

0:27:35.480 --> 0:27:39.919
<v Speaker 2>the contract aspect, and the financial aspect, and then there's

0:27:40.040 --> 0:27:44.200
<v Speaker 2>the atmosphere and leadership aspect. So if we're talking straight

0:27:44.280 --> 0:27:48.840
<v Speaker 2>up production and stats, you know, almost thirty nine hundred yards,

0:27:48.840 --> 0:27:52.960
<v Speaker 2>twenty eight touchdowns, eleven interceptions, sixty three percent completions. This

0:27:53.119 --> 0:27:56.160
<v Speaker 2>is better than his last year in Green Bay. It's

0:27:56.200 --> 0:27:58.240
<v Speaker 2>not as you know, back to back MVP years or

0:27:58.240 --> 0:28:02.480
<v Speaker 2>as two MVP ers, whatever they were, but that's I mean,

0:28:02.960 --> 0:28:05.720
<v Speaker 2>you can win with that. There's definitely some winning football

0:28:05.720 --> 0:28:08.240
<v Speaker 2>in there somewhere because those stats are better than half

0:28:08.240 --> 0:28:11.240
<v Speaker 2>the league at forty one years old coming off an achilles.

0:28:11.320 --> 0:28:14.960
<v Speaker 2>So I don't know whoever comes in has to decide

0:28:14.960 --> 0:28:18.000
<v Speaker 2>on if that's enough for them and what that means.

0:28:18.040 --> 0:28:19.880
<v Speaker 2>But that's going to play in to the next point,

0:28:19.920 --> 0:28:23.120
<v Speaker 2>which is the financials. And it's a big number. It's

0:28:23.119 --> 0:28:25.520
<v Speaker 2>a big number for a guy who's forty one. But

0:28:25.720 --> 0:28:27.800
<v Speaker 2>if you like that production and you're willing to pay

0:28:27.880 --> 0:28:30.480
<v Speaker 2>him that much, well don't forget. You know, he sat

0:28:30.520 --> 0:28:34.160
<v Speaker 2>his terms, the team agreed to those terms, and that's

0:28:34.160 --> 0:28:35.920
<v Speaker 2>what you get when you make an agreement like that.

0:28:35.920 --> 0:28:38.280
<v Speaker 2>That's what happens, So you take the good with the bad.

0:28:38.360 --> 0:28:40.280
<v Speaker 2>Nobody expected him to be out after a couple of

0:28:40.320 --> 0:28:43.280
<v Speaker 2>plays the very first year he starts, and who knows

0:28:43.360 --> 0:28:45.520
<v Speaker 2>what the narrative is if he plays that whole season,

0:28:45.640 --> 0:28:49.040
<v Speaker 2>So there's stuff to figure out with that contract. Do

0:28:49.080 --> 0:28:51.400
<v Speaker 2>you take you know, the dead cap hit with the

0:28:51.480 --> 0:28:55.000
<v Speaker 2>money and get rid of him. Do you use him

0:28:55.160 --> 0:28:58.680
<v Speaker 2>as your bridge guy and draft his successor do you

0:28:58.840 --> 0:29:01.880
<v Speaker 2>keep the current right and then wait for the next

0:29:01.920 --> 0:29:03.960
<v Speaker 2>draft class where they think there might be some better

0:29:04.040 --> 0:29:07.040
<v Speaker 2>quarterbacks available than this draft class, right because you missed

0:29:07.080 --> 0:29:09.200
<v Speaker 2>last year's there are quite a few good ones that

0:29:09.240 --> 0:29:13.440
<v Speaker 2>looked like So what does that mean financially? And I'm

0:29:13.480 --> 0:29:16.120
<v Speaker 2>not a cap specialist, that's not my you know, I

0:29:16.120 --> 0:29:18.120
<v Speaker 2>don't dive too hard into the financials. I just know

0:29:18.160 --> 0:29:21.720
<v Speaker 2>it's a little messy with that situation. So they're gonna

0:29:21.720 --> 0:29:22.960
<v Speaker 2>have to have a plan for that. And then the

0:29:23.000 --> 0:29:27.000
<v Speaker 2>next thing is just the atmosphere his leadership, you know,

0:29:27.080 --> 0:29:28.960
<v Speaker 2>do the guys respond to them? And I think for

0:29:29.040 --> 0:29:31.800
<v Speaker 2>the most part it's yes. I know, you know recently,

0:29:31.880 --> 0:29:35.840
<v Speaker 2>and it's an easy place to become the villain. Unfortunately,

0:29:36.080 --> 0:29:40.920
<v Speaker 2>and you know, he's been villainized in a way. There's

0:29:41.000 --> 0:29:44.920
<v Speaker 2>certain things I think each side probably could have handled

0:29:44.960 --> 0:29:47.880
<v Speaker 2>a little differently. Anytime you look at you know, you

0:29:48.000 --> 0:29:53.880
<v Speaker 2>go back and look in hindsight and it's always twenty twenty.

0:29:53.880 --> 0:29:57.000
<v Speaker 2>But you'd say, yeah, maybe the organization could have done this,

0:29:57.120 --> 0:29:59.160
<v Speaker 2>And you know, maybe Aaron could have showed up to

0:29:59.280 --> 0:30:01.040
<v Speaker 2>the to the mini, maybe it could have been there

0:30:01.080 --> 0:30:03.160
<v Speaker 2>for more OTAs. Maybe he had his own rehab stuff.

0:30:03.200 --> 0:30:05.440
<v Speaker 2>Maybe there's other circumstances that I don't even know about.

0:30:05.480 --> 0:30:09.560
<v Speaker 2>So you know, it's pure speculation here, but you'd like

0:30:10.240 --> 0:30:14.640
<v Speaker 2>to have an environment where your guy wants to be

0:30:14.720 --> 0:30:16.960
<v Speaker 2>there all the time, and there could be reasons that

0:30:17.000 --> 0:30:18.520
<v Speaker 2>he didn't want to be there. I don't know. I'm

0:30:18.560 --> 0:30:22.040
<v Speaker 2>not saying he's a horrible person for doing that whatever,

0:30:22.640 --> 0:30:26.840
<v Speaker 2>just i'd like to see moving forward a coach, a

0:30:26.880 --> 0:30:29.680
<v Speaker 2>GM and a quarterback that all three of those guys

0:30:29.680 --> 0:30:33.040
<v Speaker 2>at Holy Trinity of an NFL ball club are all

0:30:33.080 --> 0:30:35.600
<v Speaker 2>on the same page. They all want to be together

0:30:36.160 --> 0:30:38.760
<v Speaker 2>as much as they can offseason, during the season, whatever

0:30:38.800 --> 0:30:41.720
<v Speaker 2>it is, whatever our max hours is, we're trying to

0:30:41.720 --> 0:30:44.200
<v Speaker 2>steal every second of those hours we're allowed to be together.

0:30:44.800 --> 0:30:48.600
<v Speaker 2>And you know, this year. It's think about it. You

0:30:48.600 --> 0:30:51.040
<v Speaker 2>get a new coach, you get two mini camps. One

0:30:51.080 --> 0:30:54.280
<v Speaker 2>of them's mandatory. I'd like my quarterback to be at both.

0:30:54.600 --> 0:30:56.760
<v Speaker 2>You know, that's just me. If I'm the new coach,

0:30:56.800 --> 0:30:59.360
<v Speaker 2>I'd love him to be there. It makes my life

0:30:59.360 --> 0:31:02.840
<v Speaker 2>a little easier because if you're trying to set this

0:31:02.920 --> 0:31:05.840
<v Speaker 2>culture that we talked about, well, he's got to be

0:31:06.400 --> 0:31:11.200
<v Speaker 2>the number one culture guy. He's gotta exude all of

0:31:11.520 --> 0:31:16.000
<v Speaker 2>your fundamentals and your ideals in establishing that culture or

0:31:16.040 --> 0:31:18.360
<v Speaker 2>else it kind of falls on deaf fears because if

0:31:18.360 --> 0:31:20.720
<v Speaker 2>you're telling you know, fifty three on the roster, hey,

0:31:20.760 --> 0:31:24.280
<v Speaker 2>you got to do this, but this guy can do that. Now, listen,

0:31:24.280 --> 0:31:28.040
<v Speaker 2>there is an argument for you know, I'm gonna treat you,

0:31:28.800 --> 0:31:30.640
<v Speaker 2>if I'm the head coach, I'm gonna treat you fairly.

0:31:30.800 --> 0:31:33.040
<v Speaker 2>You're not all gonna get treated equally, you know what

0:31:33.080 --> 0:31:35.280
<v Speaker 2>I mean. The old Revus rule, the bus leaves at

0:31:35.280 --> 0:31:37.720
<v Speaker 2>two thirty unless you're durell Reevs will wait, you know

0:31:37.760 --> 0:31:40.080
<v Speaker 2>what I mean. So there's some to be said for that,

0:31:40.240 --> 0:31:42.720
<v Speaker 2>But you also have to have the right culture and

0:31:43.440 --> 0:31:47.280
<v Speaker 2>guys that understand that and guys that don't take advantage

0:31:47.280 --> 0:31:50.080
<v Speaker 2>of that. So bottom line is you need your best

0:31:50.080 --> 0:31:52.440
<v Speaker 2>players to be your hardest workers. And if that's the

0:31:52.480 --> 0:31:54.440
<v Speaker 2>case moving forward, I think there's plenty of meat on

0:31:54.480 --> 0:31:56.800
<v Speaker 2>the bone when it comes to Aaron Rodgers and his

0:31:56.880 --> 0:31:59.680
<v Speaker 2>ability as a player. I think the contract issue and

0:31:59.720 --> 0:32:03.960
<v Speaker 2>then the atmosphere leadership issues are things they need to

0:32:04.480 --> 0:32:08.040
<v Speaker 2>hash out the new coach Aaron. But I mean, if

0:32:08.080 --> 0:32:11.360
<v Speaker 2>you're talking playing ability, the guys still got plenty. He's

0:32:11.360 --> 0:32:13.880
<v Speaker 2>still one of the most amazing passers in the league,

0:32:13.960 --> 0:32:18.440
<v Speaker 2>so I think there's plenty of wins left with number eight.

0:32:19.000 --> 0:32:22.640
<v Speaker 3>It's all very interesting because he was here throughout OTAs

0:32:22.720 --> 0:32:25.680
<v Speaker 3>that was the voluntary portion of camp, obviously referring to

0:32:26.160 --> 0:32:29.960
<v Speaker 3>that mandatory mini camp there prior to training camp.

0:32:30.280 --> 0:32:32.320
<v Speaker 1>And then you mentioned the REVS rule.

0:32:32.520 --> 0:32:35.560
<v Speaker 3>You can go back to Bill Parcells who said that

0:32:35.680 --> 0:32:38.680
<v Speaker 3>I think about treating players fairly, that doesn't mean you

0:32:38.720 --> 0:32:39.520
<v Speaker 3>treat them equally.

0:32:39.600 --> 0:32:42.600
<v Speaker 1>Did REVS really have in separate bus rules. I didn't

0:32:42.600 --> 0:32:43.040
<v Speaker 1>even know that.

0:32:43.960 --> 0:32:48.080
<v Speaker 2>No. Rex just made that joke one time. He said,

0:32:48.120 --> 0:32:50.440
<v Speaker 2>you know, the bus leaves at two thirty, talking about

0:32:50.440 --> 0:32:53.160
<v Speaker 2>we're going to the airport for a road game, and

0:32:53.360 --> 0:32:55.479
<v Speaker 2>he said the bus leaves at two thirty unless you're

0:32:55.520 --> 0:32:59.479
<v Speaker 2>Durell Reevs. Meaning you know, we'll wait for Darrell, And

0:32:59.520 --> 0:33:01.680
<v Speaker 2>then he broke down that you know, jets on three

0:33:01.760 --> 0:33:03.840
<v Speaker 2>one two three jets And then as we're walking away,

0:33:03.880 --> 0:33:05.720
<v Speaker 2>it's like, if you have to think about if we'll

0:33:05.720 --> 0:33:09.320
<v Speaker 2>wait for you, we ain't waiting, you know, like that

0:33:10.000 --> 0:33:12.800
<v Speaker 2>means you're not that good. So it was just, uh,

0:33:13.160 --> 0:33:14.880
<v Speaker 2>but that's that's one of those things you get to

0:33:15.000 --> 0:33:20.800
<v Speaker 2>because we had so many veterans, you know, Yeah, Like

0:33:21.240 --> 0:33:23.760
<v Speaker 2>we had guys that could take that kind of sarcasm

0:33:23.840 --> 0:33:27.080
<v Speaker 2>that could understand that kind of humor. The Mangolds, the

0:33:27.080 --> 0:33:30.200
<v Speaker 2>Brandon Moore's, our entire offense, like Alan Fanica. You know,

0:33:30.280 --> 0:33:34.520
<v Speaker 2>those guys were through pros and had been around a lot.

0:33:34.520 --> 0:33:36.720
<v Speaker 2>They'd seen a lot. They've seen winning football, they've seen

0:33:36.800 --> 0:33:39.280
<v Speaker 2>losing football, so they can understand that. Now you've got

0:33:39.280 --> 0:33:42.440
<v Speaker 2>a whole new group of teams and rookies and you

0:33:42.480 --> 0:33:44.440
<v Speaker 2>ain't making that joke. It's just not you got to

0:33:44.440 --> 0:33:46.560
<v Speaker 2>read the room. You can't do that. But with our team,

0:33:47.120 --> 0:33:50.280
<v Speaker 2>other than me, we had veterans everywhere, so it was

0:33:51.280 --> 0:33:53.680
<v Speaker 2>it was it was a fun time and in a

0:33:53.680 --> 0:33:54.560
<v Speaker 2>different atmosphere.

0:33:55.440 --> 0:33:59.040
<v Speaker 3>Getting back to the head coach search, you talked about

0:33:59.760 --> 0:34:03.440
<v Speaker 3>maybe having a preference to somebody who had experience in

0:34:03.480 --> 0:34:07.040
<v Speaker 3>that role before. Can you just speak to somebody who

0:34:07.160 --> 0:34:09.719
<v Speaker 3>played here as someone who played here, who's in the

0:34:09.760 --> 0:34:13.040
<v Speaker 3>media now, how unique this situation is.

0:34:13.200 --> 0:34:16.120
<v Speaker 1>Whoever comes in to one Jets drive.

0:34:16.680 --> 0:34:19.399
<v Speaker 3>What is it like to be a part of this

0:34:19.520 --> 0:34:25.560
<v Speaker 3>franchise in New York and with this starving fan base?

0:34:25.640 --> 0:34:28.479
<v Speaker 3>Because man, when you came in, you were a kid

0:34:28.560 --> 0:34:30.200
<v Speaker 3>and you experienced winning.

0:34:29.960 --> 0:34:34.560
<v Speaker 2>Right away, no doubt. And I think I was, you know,

0:34:34.719 --> 0:34:37.880
<v Speaker 2>baptized by fire in a way. Remember you got to

0:34:37.920 --> 0:34:40.920
<v Speaker 2>remember my journey. I'm coming off a Rose Bowl MVP.

0:34:41.160 --> 0:34:44.560
<v Speaker 2>I'm the fifth pick in the draft. The first season

0:34:44.680 --> 0:34:47.160
<v Speaker 2>was pretty rocky. We got into the playoffs. We were

0:34:47.239 --> 0:34:49.560
<v Speaker 2>nine to seven, you know, we win our first three,

0:34:49.600 --> 0:34:51.719
<v Speaker 2>we lose like four straight. Then it's kind of up

0:34:51.760 --> 0:34:54.320
<v Speaker 2>and down, not sure if we're going to make the playoffs.

0:34:54.360 --> 0:34:56.239
<v Speaker 2>At one point, I think after the Atlanta game, we

0:34:56.280 --> 0:34:59.080
<v Speaker 2>thought we were out. Then we come in the building

0:34:59.120 --> 0:35:01.759
<v Speaker 2>the next day and we're live. We got to win

0:35:01.800 --> 0:35:03.400
<v Speaker 2>and get in. We got to win two games and

0:35:03.440 --> 0:35:07.960
<v Speaker 2>get in whatever it is. And so that moment kind

0:35:07.960 --> 0:35:11.520
<v Speaker 2>of galvanized that team to become something special and make

0:35:11.560 --> 0:35:13.600
<v Speaker 2>some noise in the playoffs. Now, we didn't end up

0:35:13.640 --> 0:35:16.160
<v Speaker 2>getting to the super Bowl, but we were damn close.

0:35:16.440 --> 0:35:19.759
<v Speaker 2>And after that, there was a hunger and there was

0:35:19.840 --> 0:35:22.680
<v Speaker 2>that culture that we talked about where once we got

0:35:22.719 --> 0:35:26.759
<v Speaker 2>in that playoff mode, guys just got closer. It's not

0:35:26.840 --> 0:35:30.799
<v Speaker 2>that their home lives and personal lives didn't matter, but

0:35:31.120 --> 0:35:34.840
<v Speaker 2>they knew for the next couple months, it's got to

0:35:34.880 --> 0:35:38.719
<v Speaker 2>be a hyper focus and a singular focus on what

0:35:38.760 --> 0:35:41.920
<v Speaker 2>we're trying to do. And that is really takes precedent

0:35:42.200 --> 0:35:45.919
<v Speaker 2>right now, and you know, not to diminish and minimize

0:35:45.960 --> 0:35:48.480
<v Speaker 2>anything else going on at home. But there was a

0:35:48.520 --> 0:35:52.960
<v Speaker 2>collective shared struggle there that was really paramount in our lives,

0:35:53.000 --> 0:35:55.760
<v Speaker 2>it felt like, and we grew closer. We were always

0:35:55.760 --> 0:35:58.160
<v Speaker 2>at dinner together, we were always watching extra tape together,

0:35:58.200 --> 0:36:00.839
<v Speaker 2>we were always getting reps after practice together because we

0:36:00.880 --> 0:36:03.680
<v Speaker 2>wanted to win. We tasted something, We knew there was

0:36:03.680 --> 0:36:06.279
<v Speaker 2>something out there, and we got to go get it, man,

0:36:06.400 --> 0:36:08.359
<v Speaker 2>And it's gonna take everything I got and I'm gonna

0:36:08.360 --> 0:36:10.400
<v Speaker 2>make sure that other guy's given everything he's got. And

0:36:10.440 --> 0:36:12.759
<v Speaker 2>if we're not, we need to have a conversation because

0:36:12.760 --> 0:36:15.440
<v Speaker 2>it ain't fair to everybody. So I just felt like

0:36:16.960 --> 0:36:21.120
<v Speaker 2>to get to that we experience it. Then I go

0:36:21.160 --> 0:36:24.080
<v Speaker 2>to year two and now we're it feels like we're

0:36:24.160 --> 0:36:26.719
<v Speaker 2>lighting the world on fire. We're winning these fourth quarter

0:36:26.760 --> 0:36:30.320
<v Speaker 2>games that we didn't win my rookie year. We're winning

0:36:30.360 --> 0:36:33.440
<v Speaker 2>fourth quarter, two minute comeback games. And this offense is

0:36:33.480 --> 0:36:35.279
<v Speaker 2>starting to evolve. I'm getting to throw the ball a

0:36:35.320 --> 0:36:38.520
<v Speaker 2>little bit more. It's not just run run, run, run, okay,

0:36:38.760 --> 0:36:41.840
<v Speaker 2>occasional rollout pass. Now we're throwing it a little bit.

0:36:41.880 --> 0:36:44.920
<v Speaker 2>We're getting in empty sets, we're using motion, we're using shifts.

0:36:45.360 --> 0:36:47.359
<v Speaker 2>This thing's getting to where we want to go. And

0:36:47.440 --> 0:36:50.719
<v Speaker 2>so I got this taste of the NFL, like, oh man,

0:36:51.719 --> 0:36:54.799
<v Speaker 2>not that it was easy, but this is this is

0:36:54.800 --> 0:36:56.799
<v Speaker 2>how it's supposed to go. This is kind of how

0:36:56.960 --> 0:36:59.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, you script it, like we're we're knocking on

0:36:59.040 --> 0:37:02.719
<v Speaker 2>the door of the super these first two years. Third year,

0:37:02.719 --> 0:37:04.319
<v Speaker 2>come on, we got it. This is the one. This

0:37:04.400 --> 0:37:06.520
<v Speaker 2>is the one. And then we go eight and eight,

0:37:06.560 --> 0:37:09.239
<v Speaker 2>miss the playoffs and it's like whoa. And then you

0:37:09.320 --> 0:37:12.719
<v Speaker 2>really experience New York and I had only seen one

0:37:12.760 --> 0:37:15.200
<v Speaker 2>side of it. I'd seen little glimpses of oh, we

0:37:15.280 --> 0:37:17.080
<v Speaker 2>lost the game or we're on a three game losing

0:37:17.120 --> 0:37:19.080
<v Speaker 2>streak or whatever, but then we get back on a heater.

0:37:19.840 --> 0:37:22.480
<v Speaker 2>I didn't experience it like that, where the whole offseason

0:37:23.200 --> 0:37:26.080
<v Speaker 2>was just man, you know, you blew it, you're no

0:37:26.200 --> 0:37:29.760
<v Speaker 2>good whatever. That's the way it is there. It's feast

0:37:29.840 --> 0:37:35.640
<v Speaker 2>or famine. It's superlative media. And so having a coach

0:37:35.680 --> 0:37:39.440
<v Speaker 2>that's been through it before, I think is important to

0:37:39.560 --> 0:37:43.440
<v Speaker 2>handle that because you need somebody to just steady the

0:37:43.480 --> 0:37:51.560
<v Speaker 2>boat right like steady stabilize and get everybody once again,

0:37:51.600 --> 0:37:54.360
<v Speaker 2>to get the blinders on, put your phone down. The

0:37:54.440 --> 0:37:56.919
<v Speaker 2>narratives in this building are more important than anywhere else.

0:37:58.239 --> 0:38:00.480
<v Speaker 2>Let's lock that, you know, knock that stuff out, lock

0:38:00.560 --> 0:38:03.480
<v Speaker 2>into what we got. And that's that's one of the

0:38:03.520 --> 0:38:05.520
<v Speaker 2>most difficult things to do. Just so you know, on

0:38:05.560 --> 0:38:09.640
<v Speaker 2>this media side, you know, for people watching, there's when

0:38:09.640 --> 0:38:11.960
<v Speaker 2>you when you put together a TV show, when you

0:38:12.040 --> 0:38:15.840
<v Speaker 2>construct a show, there's your first thing out of the

0:38:15.840 --> 0:38:20.120
<v Speaker 2>gate is called your a block. Cowboys jets. They're going

0:38:20.160 --> 0:38:22.640
<v Speaker 2>to lead to a block on almost every show across

0:38:22.640 --> 0:38:24.680
<v Speaker 2>the country. Now that you know it, like you'll see

0:38:24.680 --> 0:38:27.160
<v Speaker 2>it more. I didn't realize it like that until I

0:38:27.280 --> 0:38:30.080
<v Speaker 2>really got into TV. But that a block is the

0:38:30.120 --> 0:38:32.520
<v Speaker 2>heavy hitters. And oh, by the way, we'll talk about

0:38:32.560 --> 0:38:34.480
<v Speaker 2>Kansas City. They're back to back super Bowl champs. But

0:38:34.520 --> 0:38:37.600
<v Speaker 2>did you see the Jets game yesterday? It's like, whoa wait, what?

0:38:38.320 --> 0:38:41.440
<v Speaker 2>How does that work like that? So just for the

0:38:41.480 --> 0:38:45.560
<v Speaker 2>coaches to understand that and have been through that kind

0:38:45.560 --> 0:38:47.400
<v Speaker 2>of fire, I'm not saying necessarily in New York, but

0:38:47.480 --> 0:38:50.840
<v Speaker 2>being the headman, I mean, you're catching strays, You're catching

0:38:51.280 --> 0:38:54.480
<v Speaker 2>a lot at all times, and that guy's got to

0:38:54.520 --> 0:38:58.200
<v Speaker 2>be stronger than kevlar. So it's it's a different animal

0:38:58.400 --> 0:39:00.839
<v Speaker 2>in that market. And I'm black to have played there,

0:39:01.280 --> 0:39:07.719
<v Speaker 2>learned a ton about people, business football myself, and that's

0:39:07.760 --> 0:39:10.359
<v Speaker 2>that's really what that market's all about. So you got

0:39:10.480 --> 0:39:13.879
<v Speaker 2>to find a way to to block it out, and

0:39:14.080 --> 0:39:16.040
<v Speaker 2>you know winning, winning is one way to do it.

0:39:17.719 --> 0:39:19.479
<v Speaker 3>I'd be real mess if I didn't ask you about

0:39:19.520 --> 0:39:25.600
<v Speaker 3>the playoffs here. Well, Kansas City is trying to do,

0:39:25.680 --> 0:39:29.000
<v Speaker 3>attempting to do. We've never seen it before, even though

0:39:29.000 --> 0:39:33.000
<v Speaker 3>that New England had a dynastic run themselves, But you're

0:39:33.040 --> 0:39:36.759
<v Speaker 3>talking about a team going for three straight titles. In

0:39:36.880 --> 0:39:40.920
<v Speaker 3>terms of the Jets, how should their fan base be

0:39:41.000 --> 0:39:44.000
<v Speaker 3>viewing the playoffs Because I'm looking at Kansas City and

0:39:44.040 --> 0:39:46.960
<v Speaker 3>saying that team's not going anywhere. You're looking at Baltimore

0:39:47.000 --> 0:39:48.640
<v Speaker 3>and saying that team's not going anywhere.

0:39:49.040 --> 0:39:53.440
<v Speaker 1>And Buffalo's won five consecutive AFC East titles, and those.

0:39:53.200 --> 0:39:56.640
<v Speaker 3>Are the teams that you're ultimately going to want to

0:39:56.680 --> 0:39:57.239
<v Speaker 3>compete with.

0:39:58.080 --> 0:40:02.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but just remember however many years ago it was

0:40:02.840 --> 0:40:06.400
<v Speaker 2>in nine and ten, it was the Patriots, it was us,

0:40:06.840 --> 0:40:09.640
<v Speaker 2>you know, it was the Steelers. I mean, these things

0:40:09.760 --> 0:40:12.720
<v Speaker 2>change over time. Now a lot of these teams sustain success.

0:40:12.760 --> 0:40:15.720
<v Speaker 2>They get in the playoff tournament every year. That's really

0:40:15.760 --> 0:40:17.719
<v Speaker 2>where you want to be right around there and keep

0:40:17.800 --> 0:40:21.080
<v Speaker 2>drafting and developing guys. But you know, the thing can

0:40:21.120 --> 0:40:25.840
<v Speaker 2>flip fast. So it's not you know, the end of

0:40:25.880 --> 0:40:29.040
<v Speaker 2>the world, and you've got to build and construct a

0:40:29.080 --> 0:40:32.000
<v Speaker 2>team to win your division. And then you got to

0:40:32.080 --> 0:40:34.399
<v Speaker 2>look at, Okay, what else do we have. We're gonna

0:40:34.440 --> 0:40:37.520
<v Speaker 2>need some pass rushers because the AFC quarterbacks are insane.

0:40:37.600 --> 0:40:41.719
<v Speaker 2>Just Mahomes, Lamar Jackson, and Josh Allen, I mean those

0:40:41.760 --> 0:40:45.560
<v Speaker 2>three right there. We need somebody to sack that guy.

0:40:45.680 --> 0:40:48.399
<v Speaker 2>We need somebody. You can't ever stop them. Those guys

0:40:48.440 --> 0:40:51.600
<v Speaker 2>are you know, uh, superstars like in the NBA. You're

0:40:51.600 --> 0:40:54.520
<v Speaker 2>never gonna stop Steph Curry. You're never gonna hold them

0:40:54.520 --> 0:40:58.920
<v Speaker 2>to zero points. But can we just limit his touches?

0:40:58.960 --> 0:41:01.120
<v Speaker 2>Can we find a way to somehow hold them to

0:41:01.600 --> 0:41:04.319
<v Speaker 2>less than twenty? Would be amazing, you know what I mean? Like, Okay, now,

0:41:04.320 --> 0:41:06.279
<v Speaker 2>how do we do that? Who do we have to

0:41:06.400 --> 0:41:09.600
<v Speaker 2>really make that happen? And that's where you know, our

0:41:09.640 --> 0:41:12.359
<v Speaker 2>defense was so good in O nine and ten that

0:41:12.560 --> 0:41:15.640
<v Speaker 2>you know we get after players like Tom Brady, like

0:41:15.719 --> 0:41:18.600
<v Speaker 2>Ben Roethlisberger. You know, not every time they got the

0:41:18.640 --> 0:41:21.439
<v Speaker 2>better of us, but there were some times now where

0:41:21.440 --> 0:41:25.040
<v Speaker 2>we could catch them on a couple quarters. And now offense,

0:41:25.080 --> 0:41:27.000
<v Speaker 2>you got to turn it on special teams, flip the field,

0:41:27.040 --> 0:41:29.319
<v Speaker 2>give us a chance. And so I think if you

0:41:29.400 --> 0:41:32.960
<v Speaker 2>get too concerned about the outside, you got to be

0:41:32.960 --> 0:41:35.680
<v Speaker 2>aware of it, right, you can't be completely ignorant to it.

0:41:36.520 --> 0:41:38.560
<v Speaker 2>But if you get too concerned about it, like how

0:41:38.560 --> 0:41:40.359
<v Speaker 2>can we beat these guys? How can we beat these guys?

0:41:40.360 --> 0:41:43.520
<v Speaker 2>They're so good, they're superstars. Well that's what they thought

0:41:43.520 --> 0:41:46.000
<v Speaker 2>about some of the guys on our team. So you know,

0:41:46.360 --> 0:41:49.680
<v Speaker 2>we pick up some big time free agents and Ladenian Thomlinson,

0:41:50.560 --> 0:41:53.040
<v Speaker 2>Jason Taylor. I mean, you bring in a couple boom

0:41:53.080 --> 0:41:56.239
<v Speaker 2>they they add to the roster. Jason Taylor picks up

0:41:56.280 --> 0:41:58.200
<v Speaker 2>a couple of sacks like, oh man, here we go.

0:41:58.640 --> 0:42:01.080
<v Speaker 2>Now we got a shot, baby, And so you know,

0:42:01.239 --> 0:42:03.319
<v Speaker 2>you pick up an extra possession along the way, steal

0:42:03.360 --> 0:42:05.440
<v Speaker 2>a field goal along the way, and that's how you

0:42:05.480 --> 0:42:07.879
<v Speaker 2>piece it together at the beginning and then hopefully end

0:42:07.960 --> 0:42:11.160
<v Speaker 2>up where Kansas City is and you're just amazed that

0:42:11.200 --> 0:42:13.000
<v Speaker 2>they've held it together so long. They have a core

0:42:13.040 --> 0:42:16.000
<v Speaker 2>group of guys once again who believe in the ethos

0:42:16.040 --> 0:42:18.120
<v Speaker 2>of that team and the philosophy of that team, and

0:42:18.160 --> 0:42:23.400
<v Speaker 2>they have something to fall back on good bad wins, losses.

0:42:23.680 --> 0:42:26.920
<v Speaker 2>We have something that we subscribe to believe in and

0:42:26.920 --> 0:42:30.120
<v Speaker 2>can always fall back on. And that's you know, going

0:42:30.200 --> 0:42:33.400
<v Speaker 2>to evolve a little bit over time, but those hardcore

0:42:33.480 --> 0:42:37.320
<v Speaker 2>values and beliefs that should be should be a constant.

0:42:37.400 --> 0:42:40.920
<v Speaker 3>Kansas City is an anomaly this year though, because they're not scoring.

0:42:41.000 --> 0:42:43.640
<v Speaker 1>They're not scoring thirty every week these other.

0:42:43.480 --> 0:42:47.640
<v Speaker 2>Teams, and it's find it's it's formula so so. But

0:42:48.760 --> 0:42:50.400
<v Speaker 2>for the Jets, well, look at the Patriots. Look at

0:42:50.400 --> 0:42:54.480
<v Speaker 2>the Patriots early Tom Brady career, late Tom Brady career.

0:42:54.520 --> 0:42:56.600
<v Speaker 2>You know, one year he throws whatever, it was, fifty

0:42:56.640 --> 0:43:00.120
<v Speaker 2>touchdowns and you know Randy Moss is lighting up to score. Well,

0:43:00.120 --> 0:43:01.719
<v Speaker 2>he didn't do that the first year he started. The

0:43:01.719 --> 0:43:04.319
<v Speaker 2>first two years he started, it was fulk out of

0:43:04.320 --> 0:43:07.880
<v Speaker 2>the backfield. It was you know, tight ends making catches.

0:43:07.960 --> 0:43:11.439
<v Speaker 2>It was defensive. You know, Mike Rabel running the show

0:43:11.480 --> 0:43:14.040
<v Speaker 2>on defense with Bruski and you know, I mean they

0:43:14.040 --> 0:43:17.719
<v Speaker 2>had ballers now on defense and that was a defensive team.

0:43:18.040 --> 0:43:20.520
<v Speaker 2>And Brady played a different brand of football than he

0:43:20.520 --> 0:43:22.560
<v Speaker 2>did at the end of his career year twenty when

0:43:22.560 --> 0:43:26.439
<v Speaker 2>he's seen everything under the sun. So understanding what you're

0:43:26.440 --> 0:43:29.320
<v Speaker 2>trying to construct, who you're trying to be, what division

0:43:29.400 --> 0:43:31.600
<v Speaker 2>you need to win, Okay, what does that look like?

0:43:31.760 --> 0:43:34.359
<v Speaker 2>And then also understanding your personnel. What are we good at,

0:43:34.560 --> 0:43:36.279
<v Speaker 2>what can we do, what are we trying to do,

0:43:36.440 --> 0:43:39.359
<v Speaker 2>and what do these players respond to? So I think

0:43:39.440 --> 0:43:43.480
<v Speaker 2>that's part of the battle. But that whole algorithm is

0:43:44.280 --> 0:43:47.560
<v Speaker 2>you know, if I had the exact answer Buddy had,

0:43:47.760 --> 0:43:49.040
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if we'd be talking on this, I

0:43:49.080 --> 0:43:50.319
<v Speaker 2>don't know if you could afford.

0:43:50.040 --> 0:43:55.920
<v Speaker 3>Me mark multiple ways of skinned cat that's what you're saying. Hey, listen,

0:43:56.360 --> 0:43:59.880
<v Speaker 3>Kansas City, they found a way to win differently. This

0:44:00.360 --> 0:44:03.239
<v Speaker 3>Buffalo scored more than thirty points a game every week.

0:44:03.360 --> 0:44:07.120
<v Speaker 1>Baltimore scored more than thirty every week. Detroit is scoring

0:44:07.160 --> 0:44:08.840
<v Speaker 1>at astronomical numbers.

0:44:08.880 --> 0:44:12.480
<v Speaker 3>You saw what your buddy Koc was able to do

0:44:12.520 --> 0:44:15.640
<v Speaker 3>there in Minnesota, you know. But they're pairing it up

0:44:15.680 --> 0:44:18.000
<v Speaker 3>with that blitzing defense with Flores, who's going to get

0:44:18.040 --> 0:44:21.759
<v Speaker 3>head coaching looks himself, and Philadelphia as well in other

0:44:21.800 --> 0:44:22.720
<v Speaker 3>prolific offense.

0:44:22.760 --> 0:44:25.480
<v Speaker 1>So it's just interesting as far as the friends are concers.

0:44:25.600 --> 0:44:27.359
<v Speaker 2>Some of those guys you're talking about, like those are

0:44:27.440 --> 0:44:31.719
<v Speaker 2>second opportunity maybe third opportunity quarterbacks in the big and

0:44:31.800 --> 0:44:34.399
<v Speaker 2>mayfield in the playoffs. Like it's Sam Darnold went right

0:44:34.440 --> 0:44:37.359
<v Speaker 2>through New York, is there not the right atmosphere, didn't

0:44:37.360 --> 0:44:39.920
<v Speaker 2>play as well as he wanted to. Goes through the whole,

0:44:40.000 --> 0:44:42.759
<v Speaker 2>you know, quarterback rehab process, whatever you want to call it,

0:44:43.200 --> 0:44:46.400
<v Speaker 2>and he becomes this reclamation project, lands in a place

0:44:46.880 --> 0:44:50.440
<v Speaker 2>with an excellent defense, weapons on offense, a solid o

0:44:50.600 --> 0:44:54.680
<v Speaker 2>line and the guy looks like, you know, a pro bowler,

0:44:54.880 --> 0:44:57.239
<v Speaker 2>and it's like, WHOA, what's the difference between this guy

0:44:57.280 --> 0:44:59.239
<v Speaker 2>and that guy? Was it just the environment? Is it

0:44:59.280 --> 0:45:02.000
<v Speaker 2>his development of or time? Is it both? It's a

0:45:02.000 --> 0:45:04.880
<v Speaker 2>lot of those things, and the same thing for coaches.

0:45:05.840 --> 0:45:07.880
<v Speaker 2>Just you know, the name I was shocked. You know

0:45:07.920 --> 0:45:10.200
<v Speaker 2>the name I was really shocked that didn't get any

0:45:10.640 --> 0:45:13.120
<v Speaker 2>run in this cycle was Jason Garrett. I mean, talk

0:45:13.160 --> 0:45:15.440
<v Speaker 2>about a guy who's dealt with a circus in Dallas.

0:45:15.480 --> 0:45:16.200
<v Speaker 1>Are you kidding me?

0:45:16.800 --> 0:45:19.120
<v Speaker 2>That's just as tough, if not tougher than New York.

0:45:19.640 --> 0:45:23.359
<v Speaker 2>They're Chicago, the Giants, the Jets, the Cowboys. I mean,

0:45:23.360 --> 0:45:26.000
<v Speaker 2>those are tough places to coach the quarterback to be

0:45:26.040 --> 0:45:28.239
<v Speaker 2>the GM those are some of the toughest places in

0:45:28.239 --> 0:45:32.000
<v Speaker 2>the world. So you know, this guy held him right

0:45:32.040 --> 0:45:34.719
<v Speaker 2>here for a long time, ripped off thirteen wins with

0:45:34.719 --> 0:45:37.400
<v Speaker 2>a rookie quarterback in dak Prescott in twenty sixteen. Like,

0:45:38.120 --> 0:45:39.759
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, that might be somebody i'd want to

0:45:39.800 --> 0:45:41.920
<v Speaker 2>talk to, just saying I'm not like I got no

0:45:42.440 --> 0:45:45.480
<v Speaker 2>dog in the fight here, but somebody who's handled a

0:45:45.520 --> 0:45:48.960
<v Speaker 2>situation similar to the Jets. I don't know.

0:45:49.440 --> 0:45:52.480
<v Speaker 3>Oh, look at you throwing out another name because the

0:45:52.560 --> 0:45:55.239
<v Speaker 3>Jets are gonna cast a way they don't listen long enough.

0:45:55.880 --> 0:45:58.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, seriously, sucking the link.

0:45:58.000 --> 0:46:03.080
<v Speaker 3>Is like a CVS or see bro, it's gonna continue

0:46:03.080 --> 0:46:04.520
<v Speaker 3>to grow up.

0:46:04.680 --> 0:46:04.919
<v Speaker 1>Man.

0:46:05.000 --> 0:46:08.200
<v Speaker 3>We love catching up with you. Many blessings to you

0:46:08.880 --> 0:46:12.480
<v Speaker 3>and the family. Anything you want to anything you want

0:46:12.520 --> 0:46:15.960
<v Speaker 3>to say to your fan base back here in New York.

0:46:16.000 --> 0:46:20.279
<v Speaker 2>Oh, geez, listen. It's always like your first love, you know,

0:46:20.360 --> 0:46:23.680
<v Speaker 2>It's it's We've had some of the most incredible times,

0:46:23.800 --> 0:46:26.680
<v Speaker 2>really difficult times, and that's what made it fun. And

0:46:26.760 --> 0:46:30.560
<v Speaker 2>I appreciate them accepting you know, you know, maybe not

0:46:30.640 --> 0:46:33.400
<v Speaker 2>everybody right away. Gary Vee, you know he bowed me

0:46:33.440 --> 0:46:36.439
<v Speaker 2>on Draft Day and I'll never forget that. Now we've

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<v Speaker 2>since squashed that beef. No, I don't hold grudges. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't even think about it, but he, uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>stuff like that. I mean, it's just it's an incredible

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<v Speaker 2>experience playing that place. That's That's one thing I'll say

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<v Speaker 2>for whichever coach GM and quarterback is there. And I

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<v Speaker 2>think Aaron experienced that. He's talked about it. You know

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<v Speaker 2>that this is a special place you can feel there's

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<v Speaker 2>there's energy in that building, in that in that city

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<v Speaker 2>and with that fan base, and you to find a

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<v Speaker 2>way to harness it. It is. It is a special,

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<v Speaker 2>special feeling. I am eternally grateful for the opportunity to

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<v Speaker 2>play there, and that is that has only helped me

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<v Speaker 2>the rest of my entire life, not just professional but

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<v Speaker 2>personal life. And so I'm I love the Jets, and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I'm obviously yeah, I can't be biased on TV,

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<v Speaker 2>so I got to call it straight. But and I

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<v Speaker 2>hope it doesn't come across like I'm too biased. But

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<v Speaker 2>you know, they're always your first love. They gave me

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<v Speaker 2>my first opportunity in this league.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, next time in New York, Dinner on me or you.

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<v Speaker 2>On Ovens on Chris Ovans. All right, thanks brother,