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Speaker 1: Welcome into the Official Jests Podcast.

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Speaker 2: Dangling a stake in front of the lion and you

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Speaker 1: Shine Bright, Do Good with Kendrew Scott. Mark. It's been

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Speaker 1: a little while. How are you and the family doing

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Speaker 1: in southern California?

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Speaker 2: Buddy? We're doing great, no complaints here. Just finished our

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Speaker 2: season with Fox calling games, so this is this is

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Speaker 2: the off season and what my what my wife likes

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Speaker 2: to call Perry season, So it's really about her and

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Speaker 2: Daniel and catching up with my good buddies in New York.

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Speaker 2: So thanks for having me always listen.

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Speaker 1: How much do you enjoy being in the booth at

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Speaker 1: Fox this year?

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Speaker 3: And can you tell us about all the games that

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Speaker 3: you took in from a thirty thousand foot view as

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Speaker 3: far as where's that NFL trending right now?

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Speaker 2: Listen? I love what I get to do. I'm so

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Speaker 2: grateful for Fox keeping me around, and this is the

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Speaker 2: total dream job, you know, and there's only so many

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Speaker 2: of there's less broadcasters for games, then there are quarterbacks

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Speaker 2: in the NFL. So I got to be one of

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Speaker 2: thirty two for a little while and then you know,

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Speaker 2: now we're one of eighteen or whatever it is. So

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Speaker 2: I'm incredibly blessed and grateful to Fox. But this is

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Speaker 2: i'd like to say, you know, the healthiest I've felt.

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Speaker 2: You don't get hit in the booth, which is nice.

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Speaker 2: An occasional ribbing from your partner, whether it was Kevin

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Speaker 2: Coogler or Adam Amein or Chris Myers when they want

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Speaker 2: to talk and I need to be quiet, so I'll

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Speaker 2: handle that. It's much better than getting sacked by Dwight

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Speaker 2: Freeney or somebody like that. So that's nice. And you know,

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Speaker 2: i'd like to think four years now, we're undefeated. Baby,

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Speaker 2: we ain't lost the game in the booth, so I'm

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Speaker 2: doing pretty gooft.

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Speaker 3: We've talked about it before, but you see the game

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Speaker 3: in a different lens. How do you go about providing

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Speaker 3: color to not only somebody who played maybe amateur football,

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Speaker 3: or they play college football, but also connecting to the

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Speaker 3: lady on the couch who doesn't have any football experience.

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Speaker 2: You know, I really do try and go back to

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Speaker 2: some of my favorite coaches sayings, some of the coach speak,

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Speaker 2: and those funny little things that have just found a

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Speaker 2: way to ingrain themselves in my brain. You know, whether

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Speaker 2: it's the way you groom a quarterback is like raising

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Speaker 2: a child, so immediately you have a broad audience. Anybody

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Speaker 2: watching that has a child can relate to what you're

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Speaker 2: that child, hey, buddy, I don't think you should touch

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Speaker 2: that stove. It's hot and you're going to burn yourselves.

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Speaker 2: But what happens They go out and do it themselves.

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Speaker 2: And quarterbacks are the same way. They go out and

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Speaker 2: try and force the ball when you tell them not to.

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Speaker 2: You tell them who the best player on the other

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Speaker 2: team is, and hey, we're gonna try and avoid that

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Speaker 2: guy for this game until we get to this situation

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Speaker 2: and you know, your quarterback gets a little antsy, maybe

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Speaker 2: somebody like me, and you throw the interception, you touch

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Speaker 2: the hot stove. So the best I can relate it

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Speaker 2: And then at times when there's you know, a great

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Speaker 2: opportunity to really dive into the x's and o's, then

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Speaker 2: then I'll do that. But you can't do it all

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Speaker 2: the time. You got to pick your spots. And you

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Speaker 2: know that that little yellow crayon that we get and

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Speaker 2: tellustrator from Fingerworks. They give us a lot of options,

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Speaker 2: but it's about when to use them, how to use them,

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Speaker 2: how much to use them. And that's that's the tightrope

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Speaker 2: that I'm walking during games. But I think I think

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Speaker 2: it's important there to try and give your perspective. I'm

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Speaker 2: obviously gonna give a quarterback perspective. I don't want to

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Speaker 2: thing is I'll never look at Twitter, like during games,

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Speaker 2: after games whatever, talking about announcing. But my brother Brandon,

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Speaker 2: them at marked underscore Sanchez. Oh, you're such a homer

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Speaker 2: Vikings this much. It's because of Kevin O'Connell. And so

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Speaker 2: I know, if I get heat on both sides, I'm

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Speaker 2: probably right down the middle, probably right in the fairway

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Speaker 2: where I need to be. So that's kind of my gauge,

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Speaker 2: just you know, unofficially, and and fun between my brother

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Speaker 2: it's it's fun, you have. I have a great view

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Speaker 2: on how this whole operation should look like and what

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Speaker 2: it's how it's supposed to work and stuff, at least

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Speaker 2: from my experience, and so I try and impart that knowledge,

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Speaker 2: trying to be self defecating, trying to teach somebody something,

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Speaker 2: hopefully make somebody laugh, and uh, you know, teach him

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Speaker 3: Who would have thought back in your playing days that

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Speaker 3: you and Tom Brady would beat teammates Here are twenty

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Speaker 1: You can't make it.

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Speaker 2: Oh, it's so funny. We were both actually the same

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Speaker 2: place for New Year's and he had a Saints game

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Speaker 2: like Week two, and this is his first season calling games,

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Speaker 2: and what an improvement he's made. I think, you know,

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Speaker 2: he's once again he's my teammates, so I'm always going

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Speaker 2: to speak highly of him. But you know, he's working

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Speaker 2: hard at it, and it's not an easy thing to do,

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Speaker 2: and it's not an easy thing to welcome a guy

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Speaker 2: And you know that those were some heated battles against

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Speaker 2: That's really hard to catch up on all that film,

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Speaker 2: great to catch up with him and you know, talk

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Speaker 2: to little Saints because I literally just came off a

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Speaker 2: and so it was nice to communicate like that. And

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Speaker 2: I'm glad Fox gives us that, you know, team and

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Speaker 2: family mentality and atmosphere where where we can really help

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Speaker 2: and just hit them out. Hey, man, you had the

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Speaker 2: Falcons game last week, buddy, what's the deal? Give me?

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Speaker 2: You know, a couple one liners on this specific player.

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Speaker 2: He just bursts on the scene. What's your take? What

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Speaker 2: You know, how did that interview go? We don't get

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Speaker 1: All Right, we got a lot of jets to get to.

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Speaker 3: But when you and Brady are together in that kind

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Speaker 2: No, we actually we actually didn't get into that. We

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Speaker 2: And it's interesting when you get to see this many

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Speaker 2: I relate it to if you've ever gone to like

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Speaker 2: So you just get to see them all together and

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Speaker 2: you really see what separates a lot of these teams.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's it'll be no surprise to you, but

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Speaker 2: as if we were rooting for the team in that

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Speaker 2: and the players that they've acquired the GM. I mean,

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Speaker 2: that's the standard that they adhere to and there are

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Speaker 3: You're the last guy who took a playoff snap for

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Speaker 3: this franchise on a cold, wintry day with Pittsburgh, you

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Speaker 3: know we had them too.

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Speaker 1: So but you came here.

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Speaker 3: You came here to training camp prior to the twenty

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Speaker 3: twenty four to twenty five season.

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Speaker 1: You watch Rogers out there on that field.

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Speaker 3: When you see the Jets finish five and twelve, finish

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Speaker 3: GM and fell Savage, do a wonder how this all unfolded?

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Speaker 3: How are we sitting here right now.

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Speaker 2: It's it's so hard to put your finger on one

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Speaker 2: specific thing. But I will say, and I know that

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Speaker 2: this isn't because it's the Jets, This is any team

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Speaker 2: that's five and twelve. This is you know, look at

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Speaker 2: the Commanders last year compared to this yere, look at

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Speaker 2: opposed to these past two years. Like it takes time.

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Speaker 2: This whole thing isn't instant. Grits and I know everybody

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Speaker 1: How do you go about whomever this new leadership is?

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Speaker 3: How do you go about instilling a new culture because

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Speaker 3: to see what happens. But you got Sauce Gard in

432
00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:26,480
Speaker 3: the defensive backfield. There are pieces here.

433
00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:30,400
Speaker 1: But how do you go about coming in and stilling

434
00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:33,800
Speaker 1: a winning culture because some of these young guys that

435
00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:37,600
Speaker 1: I just mentioned, they haven't experienced winning yet.

436
00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:41,119
Speaker 2: Right, and they haven't experienced it since college probably, and

437
00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:42,760
Speaker 2: some of them are not even college. But like you

438
00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:46,160
Speaker 2: look at Sauce, you look at Garrett Wilson, I mean,

439
00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:49,040
Speaker 2: these guys are they got to decide on their fifth

440
00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:51,600
Speaker 2: year option because they're entering their fourth year. Brinese Hall

441
00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:54,280
Speaker 2: a little different because he was the second rounder. But

442
00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:56,520
Speaker 2: those first round guys, you need to make some decisions

443
00:22:56,560 --> 00:23:00,760
Speaker 2: on them and that kind of affects their mental entering

444
00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:02,880
Speaker 2: the year. Does this team really want me or am

445
00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:05,800
Speaker 2: I on a one year proven deal, and there's something

446
00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:07,840
Speaker 2: to be said for both of that, right for each

447
00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:11,080
Speaker 2: side of that. Keeping guys hungry but also making them

448
00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:12,600
Speaker 2: feel a part of the team, and that is a

449
00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:16,199
Speaker 2: tightrope walk across Niagara Fall. That's hard to do. So,

450
00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:19,600
Speaker 2: no matter what, the person coming in has to command

451
00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:22,720
Speaker 2: the respect of this ball club and guys have to

452
00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:26,280
Speaker 2: want to be there. Then once you get that, you

453
00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:30,120
Speaker 2: get guys there in the offseason, get guys around each other.

454
00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:33,080
Speaker 2: You've got to have some sort of success. You gotta.

455
00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:36,159
Speaker 2: It's once again, it's like raising kids. You got to

456
00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:38,600
Speaker 2: You gotta set them up for success, watch them go

457
00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:41,840
Speaker 2: through something, have the success, then they come back to

458
00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:44,280
Speaker 2: you for more. Hey, you told me this. I went

459
00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:47,480
Speaker 2: out and did it. It worked. I got the catch,

460
00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:49,920
Speaker 2: I made the throw, I made the block. I used

461
00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:53,400
Speaker 2: your technique and made the tackle. You know. I tackled

462
00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:56,600
Speaker 2: through the football, got the strip sack, we got the ball,

463
00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:58,840
Speaker 2: kicked the game winning field goal. That was awesome. Coach,

464
00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:01,160
Speaker 2: give me more. I need more, And so I think

465
00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:04,240
Speaker 2: a little bit of success early helps. I'm not saying

466
00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:06,600
Speaker 2: you got to start ten to zero, but there's gotta

467
00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:09,040
Speaker 2: be these little wins along the way. Whether it's the

468
00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:13,879
Speaker 2: actual game winning or incremental improvement to where guys want

469
00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:17,760
Speaker 2: more information, want more knowledge, want to be coached, and

470
00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:21,679
Speaker 2: coach hard It's easier said than done. It's really easy

471
00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:23,800
Speaker 2: on a podcast like this to talk about, Yeah, man,

472
00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:26,080
Speaker 2: we're gonna establish the culture and they're gonna respect it

473
00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:28,880
Speaker 2: and we're gonna win games. Well, yeah, that all sounds good,

474
00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:31,760
Speaker 2: but what does that look like? And it's somebody with

475
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:35,240
Speaker 2: the real plan, with the blueprint, who's, in my opinion,

476
00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:39,000
Speaker 2: done it before, had that success, something that these players

477
00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:42,080
Speaker 2: can look back on and say, Man, I remember playing

478
00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:45,119
Speaker 2: against that guy or man that position group when he

479
00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:48,680
Speaker 2: coached that group, they were tough. They're always tough. They

480
00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:50,840
Speaker 2: always led the league in this, you know what I mean.

481
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:53,280
Speaker 2: Like you get a basketball coach that comes over and

482
00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:56,000
Speaker 2: you watch their old tape. Man, these guys are on

483
00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,800
Speaker 2: the ground for every loose ball. These guys used four

484
00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:01,040
Speaker 2: of their five fouls every game. You know, this is

485
00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:04,240
Speaker 2: a tough unit. So that's what Hardball brought to the Chargers,

486
00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:06,040
Speaker 2: right and you could see it every place he's been.

487
00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:09,360
Speaker 2: He has that blueprint. So whoever you're bringing in, they're

488
00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:11,879
Speaker 2: gonna bring in their personality. And then they got to

489
00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:14,000
Speaker 2: get the guys buy in, have a little success early,

490
00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:17,400
Speaker 2: so they keep coming back for more. Then now you're

491
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:19,720
Speaker 2: not only fighting you know, the adversity of losing for

492
00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:22,919
Speaker 2: so long, Then you gotta fight the adversity of winning,

493
00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:28,159
Speaker 2: right the Sometimes that's harder. Then, you know, once you

494
00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:32,080
Speaker 2: have the success, there's adversity to success in a weird way.

495
00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:35,240
Speaker 2: Right now everybody's the reason for the wins instead of

496
00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:37,800
Speaker 2: that collective group that got you there. Now everybody wants

497
00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:40,160
Speaker 2: theirs and everybody wants to get paid, which I respect.

498
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:43,520
Speaker 2: But you know, how long can you harness that pure

499
00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:47,639
Speaker 2: love for each other for the game, for the practice,

500
00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:52,000
Speaker 2: for the film, for the weightlifting, for the running and conditioning,

501
00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:55,360
Speaker 2: the stuff you don't see on Sundays? Like how much

502
00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:57,320
Speaker 2: do you love that? And how many of those guys

503
00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:59,360
Speaker 2: on that roster are you going to fill spots with

504
00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:03,760
Speaker 2: the love that? So I think that's the crossroads that

505
00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:04,560
Speaker 2: the Jets are at.

506
00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:08,560
Speaker 3: Fair Enough, Jets Nation will sign up for those kinds

507
00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:13,320
Speaker 3: of problems, winning problems, And there are.

508
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:15,080
Speaker 1: Dudes on both sides of the ball. I didn't even

509
00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:16,200
Speaker 1: mentioned Jermaine Johnson.

510
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:19,080
Speaker 3: Coming back from Achilles, I talked to him the other day,

511
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:21,919
Speaker 3: chomping at the beat. Will McDonald broke out in his

512
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:25,879
Speaker 3: second year. I mean, but let's talk about the quarterback.

513
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:30,320
Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers statistically had one of the best seasons in

514
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:31,600
Speaker 3: franchise history.

515
00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:34,679
Speaker 1: He started all seventeen games.

516
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:37,359
Speaker 3: He gotta give him a ton of credit at forty

517
00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:42,840
Speaker 3: one years old, coming back from the Achilles battling through ankle, knee,

518
00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:48,159
Speaker 3: hamstring ailments to start every game. With that being said,

519
00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:52,639
Speaker 3: you're gonna have new football leadership here. He Aaron asks

520
00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:55,080
Speaker 3: his side what he wants to do. The Jets have

521
00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:59,480
Speaker 3: to decide what they want to do. From your perspective,

522
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:04,040
Speaker 3: what are your thoughts what Aaron's going to go through,

523
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:05,879
Speaker 3: and what are your thoughts would the Jets have to

524
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:07,639
Speaker 3: go through because not only right now do they have

525
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:11,960
Speaker 3: Rogers under contract Tyrod Taylor, you also drafted a young

526
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:14,240
Speaker 3: kid out of Florida State who was working to get

527
00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:18,200
Speaker 3: his get back, and that's Jordan Travis. And then people

528
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:20,439
Speaker 3: look at the draft and say, hey, the Jets are

529
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:23,399
Speaker 3: probably going to be looking at a another young pastor.

530
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:25,800
Speaker 1: We'll just see how that all unfolds.

531
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,479
Speaker 2: So I think when you talk about the quarterback position,

532
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 2: there's you know, the there's a production aspect, there is

533
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:39,919
Speaker 2: the contract aspect, and the financial aspect, and then there's

534
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:44,200
Speaker 2: the atmosphere and leadership aspect. So if we're talking straight

535
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:48,840
Speaker 2: up production and stats, you know, almost thirty nine hundred yards,

536
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:52,960
Speaker 2: twenty eight touchdowns, eleven interceptions, sixty three percent completions. This

537
00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:56,160
Speaker 2: is better than his last year in Green Bay. It's

538
00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,240
Speaker 2: not as you know, back to back MVP years or

539
00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:02,480
Speaker 2: as two MVP ers, whatever they were, but that's I mean,

540
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:05,720
Speaker 2: you can win with that. There's definitely some winning football

541
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:08,240
Speaker 2: in there somewhere because those stats are better than half

542
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:11,240
Speaker 2: the league at forty one years old coming off an achilles.

543
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:14,960
Speaker 2: So I don't know whoever comes in has to decide

544
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 2: on if that's enough for them and what that means.

545
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:19,880
Speaker 2: But that's going to play in to the next point,

546
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:23,120
Speaker 2: which is the financials. And it's a big number. It's

547
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 2: a big number for a guy who's forty one. But

548
00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:27,800
Speaker 2: if you like that production and you're willing to pay

549
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:30,480
Speaker 2: him that much, well don't forget. You know, he sat

550
00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:34,160
Speaker 2: his terms, the team agreed to those terms, and that's

551
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:35,920
Speaker 2: what you get when you make an agreement like that.

552
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 2: That's what happens, So you take the good with the bad.

553
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:40,280
Speaker 2: Nobody expected him to be out after a couple of

554
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 2: plays the very first year he starts, and who knows

555
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:45,520
Speaker 2: what the narrative is if he plays that whole season,

556
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 2: So there's stuff to figure out with that contract. Do

557
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:51,400
Speaker 2: you take you know, the dead cap hit with the

558
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 2: money and get rid of him. Do you use him

559
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:58,680
Speaker 2: as your bridge guy and draft his successor do you

560
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:01,880
Speaker 2: keep the current right and then wait for the next

561
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:03,960
Speaker 2: draft class where they think there might be some better

562
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 2: quarterbacks available than this draft class, right because you missed

563
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 2: last year's there are quite a few good ones that

564
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 2: looked like So what does that mean financially? And I'm

565
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:16,120
Speaker 2: not a cap specialist, that's not my you know, I

566
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:18,120
Speaker 2: don't dive too hard into the financials. I just know

567
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:21,720
Speaker 2: it's a little messy with that situation. So they're gonna

568
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:22,960
Speaker 2: have to have a plan for that. And then the

569
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 2: next thing is just the atmosphere his leadership, you know,

570
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:28,960
Speaker 2: do the guys respond to them? And I think for

571
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:31,800
Speaker 2: the most part it's yes. I know, you know recently,

572
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 2: and it's an easy place to become the villain. Unfortunately,

573
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 2: and you know, he's been villainized in a way. There's

574
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 2: certain things I think each side probably could have handled

575
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 2: a little differently. Anytime you look at you know, you

576
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 2: go back and look in hindsight and it's always twenty twenty.

577
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 2: But you'd say, yeah, maybe the organization could have done this,

578
00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 2: And you know, maybe Aaron could have showed up to

579
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 2: the to the mini, maybe it could have been there

580
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:03,160
Speaker 2: for more OTAs. Maybe he had his own rehab stuff.

581
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 2: Maybe there's other circumstances that I don't even know about.

582
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:09,560
Speaker 2: So you know, it's pure speculation here, but you'd like

583
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:14,640
Speaker 2: to have an environment where your guy wants to be

584
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:16,960
Speaker 2: there all the time, and there could be reasons that

585
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 2: he didn't want to be there. I don't know. I'm

586
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 2: not saying he's a horrible person for doing that whatever,

587
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:26,840
Speaker 2: just i'd like to see moving forward a coach, a

588
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 2: GM and a quarterback that all three of those guys

589
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:33,040
Speaker 2: at Holy Trinity of an NFL ball club are all

590
00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 2: on the same page. They all want to be together

591
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:38,760
Speaker 2: as much as they can offseason, during the season, whatever

592
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:41,720
Speaker 2: it is, whatever our max hours is, we're trying to

593
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:44,200
Speaker 2: steal every second of those hours we're allowed to be together.

594
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:48,600
Speaker 2: And you know, this year. It's think about it. You

595
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 2: get a new coach, you get two mini camps. One

596
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 2: of them's mandatory. I'd like my quarterback to be at both.

597
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 2: You know, that's just me. If I'm the new coach,

598
00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 2: I'd love him to be there. It makes my life

599
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 2: a little easier because if you're trying to set this

600
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 2: culture that we talked about, well, he's got to be

601
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 2: the number one culture guy. He's gotta exude all of

602
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 2: your fundamentals and your ideals in establishing that culture or

603
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 2: else it kind of falls on deaf fears because if

604
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 2: you're telling you know, fifty three on the roster, hey,

605
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:24,280
Speaker 2: you got to do this, but this guy can do that. Now, listen,

606
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 2: there is an argument for you know, I'm gonna treat you,

607
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 2: if I'm the head coach, I'm gonna treat you fairly.

608
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 2: You're not all gonna get treated equally, you know what

609
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 2: I mean. The old Revus rule, the bus leaves at

610
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 2: two thirty unless you're durell Reevs will wait, you know

611
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 2: what I mean. So there's some to be said for that,

612
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:42,720
Speaker 2: But you also have to have the right culture and

613
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:47,280
Speaker 2: guys that understand that and guys that don't take advantage

614
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 2: of that. So bottom line is you need your best

615
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 2: players to be your hardest workers. And if that's the

616
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 2: case moving forward, I think there's plenty of meat on

617
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:56,800
Speaker 2: the bone when it comes to Aaron Rodgers and his

618
00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 2: ability as a player. I think the contract issue and

619
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:03,960
Speaker 2: then the atmosphere leadership issues are things they need to

620
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 2: hash out the new coach Aaron. But I mean, if

621
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:11,360
Speaker 2: you're talking playing ability, the guys still got plenty. He's

622
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 2: still one of the most amazing passers in the league,

623
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 2: so I think there's plenty of wins left with number eight.

624
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 3: It's all very interesting because he was here throughout OTAs

625
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 3: that was the voluntary portion of camp, obviously referring to

626
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 3: that mandatory mini camp there prior to training camp.

627
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:32,320
Speaker 1: And then you mentioned the REVS rule.

628
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 3: You can go back to Bill Parcells who said that

629
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 3: I think about treating players fairly, that doesn't mean you

630
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 3: treat them equally.

631
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 1: Did REVS really have in separate bus rules. I didn't

632
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 1: even know that.

633
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 2: No. Rex just made that joke one time. He said,

634
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 2: you know, the bus leaves at two thirty, talking about

635
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 2: we're going to the airport for a road game, and

636
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:55,479
Speaker 2: he said the bus leaves at two thirty unless you're

637
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:59,479
Speaker 2: Durell Reevs. Meaning you know, we'll wait for Darrell, And

638
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 2: then he broke down that you know, jets on three

639
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 2: one two three jets And then as we're walking away,

640
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:05,720
Speaker 2: it's like, if you have to think about if we'll

641
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 2: wait for you, we ain't waiting, you know, like that

642
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 2: means you're not that good. So it was just, uh,

643
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 2: but that's that's one of those things you get to

644
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 2: because we had so many veterans, you know, Yeah, Like

645
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 2: we had guys that could take that kind of sarcasm

646
00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 2: that could understand that kind of humor. The Mangolds, the

647
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 2: Brandon Moore's, our entire offense, like Alan Fanica. You know,

648
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 2: those guys were through pros and had been around a lot.

649
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:36,720
Speaker 2: They'd seen a lot. They've seen winning football, they've seen

650
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 2: losing football, so they can understand that. Now you've got

651
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 2: a whole new group of teams and rookies and you

652
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 2: ain't making that joke. It's just not you got to

653
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 2: read the room. You can't do that. But with our team,

654
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:50,280
Speaker 2: other than me, we had veterans everywhere, so it was

655
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 2: it was it was a fun time and in a

656
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:54,560
Speaker 2: different atmosphere.

657
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:59,040
Speaker 3: Getting back to the head coach search, you talked about

658
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 3: maybe having a preference to somebody who had experience in

659
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:07,040
Speaker 3: that role before. Can you just speak to somebody who

660
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:09,719
Speaker 3: played here as someone who played here, who's in the

661
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 3: media now, how unique this situation is.

662
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 1: Whoever comes in to one Jets drive.

663
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:19,399
Speaker 3: What is it like to be a part of this

664
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 3: franchise in New York and with this starving fan base?

665
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:28,479
Speaker 3: Because man, when you came in, you were a kid

666
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 3: and you experienced winning.

667
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:34,560
Speaker 2: Right away, no doubt. And I think I was, you know,

668
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:37,880
Speaker 2: baptized by fire in a way. Remember you got to

669
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:40,920
Speaker 2: remember my journey. I'm coming off a Rose Bowl MVP.

670
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 2: I'm the fifth pick in the draft. The first season

671
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:47,160
Speaker 2: was pretty rocky. We got into the playoffs. We were

672
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 2: nine to seven, you know, we win our first three,

673
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:51,719
Speaker 2: we lose like four straight. Then it's kind of up

674
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:54,320
Speaker 2: and down, not sure if we're going to make the playoffs.

675
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:56,239
Speaker 2: At one point, I think after the Atlanta game, we

676
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 2: thought we were out. Then we come in the building

677
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:01,759
Speaker 2: the next day and we're live. We got to win

678
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:03,400
Speaker 2: and get in. We got to win two games and

679
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 2: get in whatever it is. And so that moment kind

680
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 2: of galvanized that team to become something special and make

681
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 2: some noise in the playoffs. Now, we didn't end up

682
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 2: getting to the super Bowl, but we were damn close.

683
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:19,759
Speaker 2: And after that, there was a hunger and there was

684
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 2: that culture that we talked about where once we got

685
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:26,759
Speaker 2: in that playoff mode, guys just got closer. It's not

686
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:30,799
Speaker 2: that their home lives and personal lives didn't matter, but

687
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:34,840
Speaker 2: they knew for the next couple months, it's got to

688
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:38,719
Speaker 2: be a hyper focus and a singular focus on what

689
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:41,920
Speaker 2: we're trying to do. And that is really takes precedent

690
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:45,919
Speaker 2: right now, and you know, not to diminish and minimize

691
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 2: anything else going on at home. But there was a

692
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:52,960
Speaker 2: collective shared struggle there that was really paramount in our lives,

693
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,760
Speaker 2: it felt like, and we grew closer. We were always

694
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 2: at dinner together, we were always watching extra tape together,

695
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:00,839
Speaker 2: we were always getting reps after practice together because we

696
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 2: wanted to win. We tasted something, We knew there was

697
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:06,279
Speaker 2: something out there, and we got to go get it, man,

698
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:08,359
Speaker 2: And it's gonna take everything I got and I'm gonna

699
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:10,400
Speaker 2: make sure that other guy's given everything he's got. And

700
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:12,759
Speaker 2: if we're not, we need to have a conversation because

701
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:15,440
Speaker 2: it ain't fair to everybody. So I just felt like

702
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 2: to get to that we experience it. Then I go

703
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 2: to year two and now we're it feels like we're

704
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:26,719
Speaker 2: lighting the world on fire. We're winning these fourth quarter

705
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:30,320
Speaker 2: games that we didn't win my rookie year. We're winning

706
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:33,440
Speaker 2: fourth quarter, two minute comeback games. And this offense is

707
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:35,279
Speaker 2: starting to evolve. I'm getting to throw the ball a

708
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 2: little bit more. It's not just run run, run, run, okay,

709
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:41,840
Speaker 2: occasional rollout pass. Now we're throwing it a little bit.

710
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:44,920
Speaker 2: We're getting in empty sets, we're using motion, we're using shifts.

711
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:47,359
Speaker 2: This thing's getting to where we want to go. And

712
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:50,719
Speaker 2: so I got this taste of the NFL, like, oh man,

713
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:54,799
Speaker 2: not that it was easy, but this is this is

714
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:56,799
Speaker 2: how it's supposed to go. This is kind of how

715
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 2: you know, you script it, like we're we're knocking on

716
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:02,719
Speaker 2: the door of the super these first two years. Third year,

717
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:04,319
Speaker 2: come on, we got it. This is the one. This

718
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 2: is the one. And then we go eight and eight,

719
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:09,239
Speaker 2: miss the playoffs and it's like whoa. And then you

720
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:12,719
Speaker 2: really experience New York and I had only seen one

721
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 2: side of it. I'd seen little glimpses of oh, we

722
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 2: lost the game or we're on a three game losing

723
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 2: streak or whatever, but then we get back on a heater.

724
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 2: I didn't experience it like that, where the whole offseason

725
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 2: was just man, you know, you blew it, you're no

726
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:29,760
Speaker 2: good whatever. That's the way it is there. It's feast

727
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 2: or famine. It's superlative media. And so having a coach

728
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:39,440
Speaker 2: that's been through it before, I think is important to

729
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:43,440
Speaker 2: handle that because you need somebody to just steady the

730
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 2: boat right like steady stabilize and get everybody once again,

731
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:54,360
Speaker 2: to get the blinders on, put your phone down. The

732
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:56,919
Speaker 2: narratives in this building are more important than anywhere else.

733
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:00,480
Speaker 2: Let's lock that, you know, knock that stuff out, lock

734
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 2: into what we got. And that's that's one of the

735
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 2: most difficult things to do. Just so you know, on

736
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 2: this media side, you know, for people watching, there's when

737
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:11,960
Speaker 2: you when you put together a TV show, when you

738
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:15,840
Speaker 2: construct a show, there's your first thing out of the

739
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 2: gate is called your a block. Cowboys jets. They're going

740
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 2: to lead to a block on almost every show across

741
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 2: the country. Now that you know it, like you'll see

742
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 2: it more. I didn't realize it like that until I

743
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 2: really got into TV. But that a block is the

744
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 2: heavy hitters. And oh, by the way, we'll talk about

745
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:34,480
Speaker 2: Kansas City. They're back to back super Bowl champs. But

746
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 2: did you see the Jets game yesterday? It's like, whoa wait, what?

747
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:41,440
Speaker 2: How does that work like that? So just for the

748
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 2: coaches to understand that and have been through that kind

749
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:47,400
Speaker 2: of fire, I'm not saying necessarily in New York, but

750
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:50,840
Speaker 2: being the headman, I mean, you're catching strays, You're catching

751
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:54,480
Speaker 2: a lot at all times, and that guy's got to

752
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 2: be stronger than kevlar. So it's it's a different animal

753
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:00,839
Speaker 2: in that market. And I'm black to have played there,

754
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:07,719
Speaker 2: learned a ton about people, business football myself, and that's

755
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:10,359
Speaker 2: that's really what that market's all about. So you got

756
00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:13,879
Speaker 2: to find a way to to block it out, and

757
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 2: you know winning, winning is one way to do it.

758
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:19,479
Speaker 3: I'd be real mess if I didn't ask you about

759
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:25,600
Speaker 3: the playoffs here. Well, Kansas City is trying to do,

760
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 3: attempting to do. We've never seen it before, even though

761
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 3: that New England had a dynastic run themselves, But you're

762
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:36,759
Speaker 3: talking about a team going for three straight titles. In

763
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:40,920
Speaker 3: terms of the Jets, how should their fan base be

764
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 3: viewing the playoffs Because I'm looking at Kansas City and

765
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:46,960
Speaker 3: saying that team's not going anywhere. You're looking at Baltimore

766
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:48,640
Speaker 3: and saying that team's not going anywhere.

767
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:53,440
Speaker 1: And Buffalo's won five consecutive AFC East titles, and those.

768
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 3: Are the teams that you're ultimately going to want to

769
00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:57,239
Speaker 3: compete with.

770
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:02,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, but just remember however many years ago it was

771
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:06,400
Speaker 2: in nine and ten, it was the Patriots, it was us,

772
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 2: you know, it was the Steelers. I mean, these things

773
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:12,720
Speaker 2: change over time. Now a lot of these teams sustain success.

774
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:15,720
Speaker 2: They get in the playoff tournament every year. That's really

775
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:17,719
Speaker 2: where you want to be right around there and keep

776
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 2: drafting and developing guys. But you know, the thing can

777
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:25,840
Speaker 2: flip fast. So it's not you know, the end of

778
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 2: the world, and you've got to build and construct a

779
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 2: team to win your division. And then you got to

780
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:34,399
Speaker 2: look at, Okay, what else do we have. We're gonna

781
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 2: need some pass rushers because the AFC quarterbacks are insane.

782
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:41,719
Speaker 2: Just Mahomes, Lamar Jackson, and Josh Allen, I mean those

783
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 2: three right there. We need somebody to sack that guy.

784
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:48,399
Speaker 2: We need somebody. You can't ever stop them. Those guys

785
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 2: are you know, uh, superstars like in the NBA. You're

786
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 2: never gonna stop Steph Curry. You're never gonna hold them

787
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:58,920
Speaker 2: to zero points. But can we just limit his touches?

788
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 2: Can we find a way to somehow hold them to

789
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:04,319
Speaker 2: less than twenty? Would be amazing, you know what I mean? Like, Okay, now,

790
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:06,279
Speaker 2: how do we do that? Who do we have to

791
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 2: really make that happen? And that's where you know, our

792
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:12,359
Speaker 2: defense was so good in O nine and ten that

793
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:15,640
Speaker 2: you know we get after players like Tom Brady, like

794
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 2: Ben Roethlisberger. You know, not every time they got the

795
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:21,439
Speaker 2: better of us, but there were some times now where

796
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:25,040
Speaker 2: we could catch them on a couple quarters. And now offense,

797
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:27,000
Speaker 2: you got to turn it on special teams, flip the field,

798
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:29,319
Speaker 2: give us a chance. And so I think if you

799
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 2: get too concerned about the outside, you got to be

800
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 2: aware of it, right, you can't be completely ignorant to it.

801
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 2: But if you get too concerned about it, like how

802
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:40,359
Speaker 2: can we beat these guys? How can we beat these guys?

803
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 2: They're so good, they're superstars. Well that's what they thought

804
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 2: about some of the guys on our team. So you know,

805
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:49,680
Speaker 2: we pick up some big time free agents and Ladenian Thomlinson,

806
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 2: Jason Taylor. I mean, you bring in a couple boom

807
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:56,239
Speaker 2: they they add to the roster. Jason Taylor picks up

808
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 2: a couple of sacks like, oh man, here we go.

809
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 2: Now we got a shot, baby, And so you know,

810
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:03,319
Speaker 2: you pick up an extra possession along the way, steal

811
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:05,440
Speaker 2: a field goal along the way, and that's how you

812
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:07,879
Speaker 2: piece it together at the beginning and then hopefully end

813
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 2: up where Kansas City is and you're just amazed that

814
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 2: they've held it together so long. They have a core

815
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 2: group of guys once again who believe in the ethos

816
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:18,120
Speaker 2: of that team and the philosophy of that team, and

817
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:23,400
Speaker 2: they have something to fall back on good bad wins, losses.

818
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:26,920
Speaker 2: We have something that we subscribe to believe in and

819
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 2: can always fall back on. And that's you know, going

820
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:33,400
Speaker 2: to evolve a little bit over time, but those hardcore

821
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:37,320
Speaker 2: values and beliefs that should be should be a constant.

822
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:40,920
Speaker 3: Kansas City is an anomaly this year though, because they're not scoring.

823
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:43,640
Speaker 1: They're not scoring thirty every week these other.

824
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 2: Teams, and it's find it's it's formula so so. But

825
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:50,400
Speaker 2: for the Jets, well, look at the Patriots. Look at

826
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:54,480
Speaker 2: the Patriots early Tom Brady career, late Tom Brady career.

827
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 2: You know, one year he throws whatever, it was, fifty

828
00:42:56,640 --> 00:43:00,120
Speaker 2: touchdowns and you know Randy Moss is lighting up to score. Well,

829
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:01,719
Speaker 2: he didn't do that the first year he started. The

830
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:04,319
Speaker 2: first two years he started, it was fulk out of

831
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:07,880
Speaker 2: the backfield. It was you know, tight ends making catches.

832
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:11,439
Speaker 2: It was defensive. You know, Mike Rabel running the show

833
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 2: on defense with Bruski and you know, I mean they

834
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:17,719
Speaker 2: had ballers now on defense and that was a defensive team.

835
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 2: And Brady played a different brand of football than he

836
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 2: did at the end of his career year twenty when

837
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:26,439
Speaker 2: he's seen everything under the sun. So understanding what you're

838
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:29,320
Speaker 2: trying to construct, who you're trying to be, what division

839
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 2: you need to win, Okay, what does that look like?

840
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:34,359
Speaker 2: And then also understanding your personnel. What are we good at,

841
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:36,279
Speaker 2: what can we do, what are we trying to do,

842
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:39,359
Speaker 2: and what do these players respond to? So I think

843
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:43,480
Speaker 2: that's part of the battle. But that whole algorithm is

844
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 2: you know, if I had the exact answer Buddy had,

845
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 2: I don't know if we'd be talking on this, I

846
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:50,319
Speaker 2: don't know if you could afford.

847
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:55,920
Speaker 3: Me mark multiple ways of skinned cat that's what you're saying. Hey, listen,

848
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:59,880
Speaker 3: Kansas City, they found a way to win differently. This

849
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:03,239
Speaker 3: Buffalo scored more than thirty points a game every week.

850
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 1: Baltimore scored more than thirty every week. Detroit is scoring

851
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:08,840
Speaker 1: at astronomical numbers.

852
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:12,480
Speaker 3: You saw what your buddy Koc was able to do

853
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 3: there in Minnesota, you know. But they're pairing it up

854
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 3: with that blitzing defense with Flores, who's going to get

855
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:21,759
Speaker 3: head coaching looks himself, and Philadelphia as well in other

856
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:22,720
Speaker 3: prolific offense.

857
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:25,480
Speaker 1: So it's just interesting as far as the friends are concers.

858
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:27,359
Speaker 2: Some of those guys you're talking about, like those are

859
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:31,719
Speaker 2: second opportunity maybe third opportunity quarterbacks in the big and

860
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:34,399
Speaker 2: mayfield in the playoffs. Like it's Sam Darnold went right

861
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:37,359
Speaker 2: through New York, is there not the right atmosphere, didn't

862
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:39,920
Speaker 2: play as well as he wanted to. Goes through the whole,

863
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:42,759
Speaker 2: you know, quarterback rehab process, whatever you want to call it,

864
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:46,400
Speaker 2: and he becomes this reclamation project, lands in a place

865
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:50,440
Speaker 2: with an excellent defense, weapons on offense, a solid o

866
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 2: line and the guy looks like, you know, a pro bowler,

867
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:57,239
Speaker 2: and it's like, WHOA, what's the difference between this guy

868
00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:59,239
Speaker 2: and that guy? Was it just the environment? Is it

869
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 2: his development of or time? Is it both? It's a

870
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:04,880
Speaker 2: lot of those things, and the same thing for coaches.

871
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:07,880
Speaker 2: Just you know, the name I was shocked. You know

872
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 2: the name I was really shocked that didn't get any

873
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 2: run in this cycle was Jason Garrett. I mean, talk

874
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:15,440
Speaker 2: about a guy who's dealt with a circus in Dallas.

875
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 1: Are you kidding me?

876
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:19,120
Speaker 2: That's just as tough, if not tougher than New York.

877
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:23,359
Speaker 2: They're Chicago, the Giants, the Jets, the Cowboys. I mean,

878
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 2: those are tough places to coach the quarterback to be

879
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:28,239
Speaker 2: the GM those are some of the toughest places in

880
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 2: the world. So you know, this guy held him right

881
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:34,719
Speaker 2: here for a long time, ripped off thirteen wins with

882
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:37,400
Speaker 2: a rookie quarterback in dak Prescott in twenty sixteen. Like,

883
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:39,759
Speaker 2: I don't know, that might be somebody i'd want to

884
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:41,920
Speaker 2: talk to, just saying I'm not like I got no

885
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:45,480
Speaker 2: dog in the fight here, but somebody who's handled a

886
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:48,960
Speaker 2: situation similar to the Jets. I don't know.

887
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:52,480
Speaker 3: Oh, look at you throwing out another name because the

888
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:55,239
Speaker 3: Jets are gonna cast a way they don't listen long enough.

889
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:58,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, seriously, sucking the link.

890
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 3: Is like a CVS or see bro, it's gonna continue

891
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:04,520
Speaker 3: to grow up.

892
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:04,919
Speaker 1: Man.

893
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 3: We love catching up with you. Many blessings to you

894
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 3: and the family. Anything you want to anything you want

895
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 3: to say to your fan base back here in New York.

896
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:20,279
Speaker 2: Oh, geez, listen. It's always like your first love, you know,

897
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:23,680
Speaker 2: It's it's We've had some of the most incredible times,

898
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:26,680
Speaker 2: really difficult times, and that's what made it fun. And

899
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 2: I appreciate them accepting you know, you know, maybe not

900
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:33,400
Speaker 2: everybody right away. Gary Vee, you know he bowed me

901
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:36,439
Speaker 2: on Draft Day and I'll never forget that. Now we've

902
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:41,239
Speaker 2: since squashed that beef. No, I don't hold grudges. I

903
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:45,400
Speaker 2: don't even think about it, but he, uh, you know,

904
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:47,880
Speaker 2: stuff like that. I mean, it's just it's an incredible

905
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 2: experience playing that place. That's That's one thing I'll say

906
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 2: for whichever coach GM and quarterback is there. And I

907
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 2: think Aaron experienced that. He's talked about it. You know

908
00:46:57,239 --> 00:47:00,479
Speaker 2: that this is a special place you can feel there's

909
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:04,280
Speaker 2: there's energy in that building, in that in that city

910
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:07,239
Speaker 2: and with that fan base, and you to find a

911
00:47:07,239 --> 00:47:10,000
Speaker 2: way to harness it. It is. It is a special,

912
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 2: special feeling. I am eternally grateful for the opportunity to

913
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:16,279
Speaker 2: play there, and that is that has only helped me

914
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:18,600
Speaker 2: the rest of my entire life, not just professional but

915
00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:23,839
Speaker 2: personal life. And so I'm I love the Jets, and

916
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:26,839
Speaker 2: you know, I'm obviously yeah, I can't be biased on TV,

917
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 2: so I got to call it straight. But and I

918
00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:32,440
Speaker 2: hope it doesn't come across like I'm too biased. But

919
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:34,600
Speaker 2: you know, they're always your first love. They gave me

920
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:36,480
Speaker 2: my first opportunity in this league.

921
00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:40,840
Speaker 1: Okay, next time in New York, Dinner on me or you.

922
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:44,880
Speaker 2: On Ovens on Chris Ovans. All right, thanks brother,