Speaker 1: First of all, you don't know me. Were all about
Speaker 1: that high school drama, Girl drama, Girl, all about them
Speaker 1: high school queens. We'll take you for a ride in
Speaker 1: our comic girl sharing for the drama Queens, Girl Fashion.
Speaker 1: But you're tough, girl. You could sit with us. Girl Drama, Queens, Drama,
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Speaker 1: I love this episode. I loved it, yes, saying it
Speaker 1: was all the things I like. It was basketball parties
Speaker 1: and real witty dialogue everybody has. There were singers, singers,
Speaker 1: There was great banter. We had people actually getting into things.
Speaker 1: I also love when drama. I love when we start
Speaker 1: to get vulnerable about like why we're being the way
Speaker 1: we're being, which is so nice. This was a good one.
Speaker 1: Tell him what it was joy. This one was season four,
Speaker 1: episode three. Good news for people who love, bad news
Speaker 1: for us. I'll tell you what. Yeah, I guess that's fitting.
Speaker 1: Lucas and Brooke, now broken up, clash at a postgame party,
Speaker 1: and Haley realizes that Rachel is plotting to seduced Nathan. Meanwhile,
Speaker 1: Peyton connects with her half brother Ish Maybe and Rachel
Speaker 1: reveals that she knows who is pregnant, also skills takes
Speaker 1: the court with Raven's basketball team, which is my personal
Speaker 1: favorite storyline of the episode. Uh, let's get into it. Yeah.
Speaker 1: We had Mike Caro and David Stiles write this episode,
Speaker 1: and they're you know, they're bros. And I give them
Speaker 1: ship for some of the stuff that they wrote in
Speaker 1: earlier seasons because it's very like bro centric um. But
Speaker 1: we also have to understand who they were working for
Speaker 1: when they write our episodes. I feel like they practice
Speaker 1: the dialogue with each other, and that's why he always
Speaker 1: feels good. When you're writing with another person and you
Speaker 1: get to bounce the ball back and forth, you can
Speaker 1: just tell. Because this is a tight script, a lot
Speaker 1: happened and there was never a moment where I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I like that. They also, just as writers are willing
Speaker 1: to just find somebody, they found somebody they know it
Speaker 1: works with, and they just like, we're just doing everything together.
Speaker 1: This is a winning combo. Let's do it this way.
Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of writers out there whose
Speaker 1: ego won't allow them to do that, but it really
Speaker 1: if you find it and it works, it's a great
Speaker 1: formula well, and you can really feel the fact that
Speaker 1: they bounce off of each other. It informs the banter
Speaker 1: in the whole episode. You know. Like one of the
Speaker 1: things I loved and when we were watching it is
Speaker 1: there's that big you know, Brooke and Rachel have a
Speaker 1: tete a tete by the pool after the party and Hillary.
Speaker 1: As soon as the scene ended, you were like the
Speaker 1: banter and like, that's fun feedback when you're watching something
Speaker 1: and you go, God, I loved that dialogue, not not
Speaker 1: just that people bring it, but that what they're saying
Speaker 1: is really good. Because you know, we've lamented and made
Speaker 1: fun of ourselves that we've we've had to make some
Speaker 1: real bad dialogue good. We've had to we've had to commit,
Speaker 1: and so when you get to commit in a scene
Speaker 1: that is so well written, it's like, yeah, it's so
Speaker 1: much easier. I mean, that's it really helps. It's it's
Speaker 1: one thing that we're good at making bad dialogue work,
Speaker 1: but when you can really tell the difference when the
Speaker 1: dialogue is actually good because there's a natural flow. And
Speaker 1: we've said this before that acting is mostly listening and
Speaker 1: if you have a good script, all you have to
Speaker 1: do is be in the moment and listen to what
Speaker 1: the other person is saying and what their body language
Speaker 1: is saying, and you can respond. And your response should
Speaker 1: fit what's on the page, or rather what's on the
Speaker 1: page should fit what you naturally feel as a response
Speaker 1: in the scene. And if it's badly written, then you
Speaker 1: have to kind of do double duty because you can't
Speaker 1: just respond with what should be said, You have to
Speaker 1: respond with what should be said underneath the actual written
Speaker 1: on the page, which is hard to do. So when
Speaker 1: it's a good scene, it's well written, it's just it flows.
Speaker 1: It's so nice. It's a relief. I love that scene
Speaker 1: with you and Rachel. They're friends in real life. So
Speaker 1: the friendships that we get to examine in this episode
Speaker 1: are great. We've got some awesome Lucas and Skills scenes.
Speaker 1: We have great mouth scenes talking to everybody, great Rangel scenes,
Speaker 1: Like all of the friendships are getting to kind of
Speaker 1: show off, and it's because you have two people who
Speaker 1: genuinely like each other making a thing together. It's great
Speaker 1: when like the behind the scenes informs what we're seeing
Speaker 1: on screen. Um, well, here in the beginning, my first
Speaker 1: question was how is where was Hayley. She was we
Speaker 1: first saw her. Oh she's in her cheerleading uniform, hanging
Speaker 1: up a post or something. Um My my first question was,
Speaker 1: how is she keeping this pregnancy a secret for so long?
Speaker 1: I mean, how can you have l Well, it's at
Speaker 1: least a few days or a week maybe, since I
Speaker 1: don't know, that's a really long time to be married
Speaker 1: and keep I get keeping it a secret if you're
Speaker 1: on your own, but to be married and not tell
Speaker 1: your spouse, that's I mean, I mean, how long did
Speaker 1: you keep a secret keeper? I guess I didn't know
Speaker 1: this about hurt. You know what's interesting, I think like
Speaker 1: in so many of the ways that I went out
Speaker 1: of my way to like build community because I grew
Speaker 1: up an only child, I know what it is to
Speaker 1: sit on something for too long because you're worried it's
Speaker 1: going to make other people uncomfortable. Like that's my achilles heel.
Speaker 1: Like the thing that was meant with love but that
Speaker 1: really psychologically to me up in my house was that
Speaker 1: the motto was always let somebody else be the problem,
Speaker 1: And it was meant to be like show up and
Speaker 1: help and know, always be a helper. But what it
Speaker 1: taught me as a kid before my brain was fully developed,
Speaker 1: was like, never ever, ever be the reason that there's
Speaker 1: more stress in a room. So it took me a
Speaker 1: long time to unlearn that. And and it's so interesting
Speaker 1: that you're like, maybe she's a secretive person. And my
Speaker 1: response was, well, Nathan said he doesn't want anything to
Speaker 1: get in the way of his dreams. And it's playoffs,
Speaker 1: and he wants to go to college and he needs
Speaker 1: to get a scholarship. So Haley probably doesn't want to
Speaker 1: tell him, and she's pregnant until after the playoffs are over.
Speaker 1: Like I'm immediately justifying why she's making sure she's not
Speaker 1: a problem for hits. That totally tracks, especially a girl
Speaker 1: who grew up in a house with a bunch of
Speaker 1: siblings too. I mean that could be an only child
Speaker 1: experience like you had, or or a big family, big family,
Speaker 1: and it's just like, honey, we have to deal with
Speaker 1: all these other problems with your brothers and sisters. Like
Speaker 1: you're the good one, right, we can, Yes, you're good. Yes,
Speaker 1: you know I get that. I and I wonder if
Speaker 1: there's a little bit of that, especially you know, I
Speaker 1: know we were in our twenties by this point in
Speaker 1: the show filming season four. But as a teenager, there
Speaker 1: really is a lot of pressure, and I I think
Speaker 1: it's incredible. You know. We talked about it a lot,
Speaker 1: especially with your you know, your kids and Hillary Gusty
Speaker 1: in the age he is and how things are different
Speaker 1: but some things are the same. And and there really
Speaker 1: was in this era when we were doing this work,
Speaker 1: there was a lot of that, like, you know, be
Speaker 1: a good girl, don't get in his way, even the
Speaker 1: narrative of are you trying to trap him? You know,
Speaker 1: this whole thing. So I wonder if she's just really
Speaker 1: like I I have so much sympathy for her not
Speaker 1: wanting to ruin something, especially after all the trouble I've
Speaker 1: been through. Yeah, and once she says it, it's out. Yeah. Well,
Speaker 1: and because and then you never know, like maybe she'll
Speaker 1: you know, the pregnancy might not last, and so she
Speaker 1: doesn't want to that happens. She doesn't want to create
Speaker 1: a lot of drama in the event that, you know,
Speaker 1: it doesn't work, and so, you know, then there's all
Speaker 1: of this aftermath to deal with. And I can see
Speaker 1: how Haley would just be like, I'm strong enough, I
Speaker 1: can just weather this. On my own. It's fine. I'll
Speaker 1: say something when I need to say something, and you
Speaker 1: know it. I don't know it tracks emotionally for me,
Speaker 1: like as a viewer and as Haley's friend. I don't
Speaker 1: know if that's weird. But but also then like when
Speaker 1: I zoom out and I go, well, and what's happening?
Speaker 1: Why are they doing this? I'm like, oh, duh, because
Speaker 1: they want the misdirect that Brooke is pregnant. They want
Speaker 1: you know, the audience really thought, oh my god, Brooke
Speaker 1: Davis is pregnant and it turns out to lucas great
Speaker 1: secret keeper. Yeah Brooke is um. Yeah. But it's that
Speaker 1: I think is really it's a good reminder to be like,
Speaker 1: oh right, right. It has to carry out for episodes
Speaker 1: because it's going to be this big misdirect and dramatic reveal.
Speaker 1: That scene was interesting between Haley and Nathan because he
Speaker 1: gives this whole speech. I mean, he clearly has PTSD.
Speaker 1: This child has been through problem as much, if not
Speaker 1: more than Peyton Sawyer right, like Das and his uncle
Speaker 1: getting shot and like you know, like like just tons
Speaker 1: of trauma. I remember remember when he was on drugs
Speaker 1: season one. This kid has seen it all, and his
Speaker 1: dad beats him, you know, dad hit him multiple times.
Speaker 1: They're trying to kill each other, his parents. This child
Speaker 1: is in a ship storm and it gets boiled down
Speaker 1: to this speech where he's like, when I play basketball,
Speaker 1: all of that goes away. And I can't make up
Speaker 1: my mind whether I think that that's corny. And it's
Speaker 1: like the boy version of how every problem is solved
Speaker 1: if you get a boyfriend for the girls on our show,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, like your problems. I don't
Speaker 1: think it's I don't think it's fake. Go ahead, but
Speaker 1: but that's the thing. It's like, I just go back
Speaker 1: and forth between being like, is this one of those
Speaker 1: quick fixes like what we do for the girls, but
Speaker 1: just the guy version, or like, you know, is this
Speaker 1: a legitimate thing? Is it a coping mechanism for young
Speaker 1: people to be like I just get to check out
Speaker 1: for two hours? Awesome? Yeah? I mean didn't it doesn't
Speaker 1: that ring true for you? Growing up in theater with
Speaker 1: like family like I we had a lot of drama
Speaker 1: and my family growing up, and man, the second that
Speaker 1: I got to get dropped off at theater and walked
Speaker 1: in those doors and got on stage it was like
Speaker 1: pure relief, pure joy, pure freedom. Um, I don't know
Speaker 1: did you guys feel that way if you were feeling
Speaker 1: stressed at school or if you had a lot of
Speaker 1: stuff going on to be able to have a safe
Speaker 1: did you have a safe place like that? I mean
Speaker 1: I lived at school. I would get dropped off an
Speaker 1: hour early to go to student government stuff and I
Speaker 1: wouldn't come home tell nine o'clock at night. Um, doing
Speaker 1: after school ship. So something you're good at, it feels
Speaker 1: good to be doing something you're good at. Well, it
Speaker 1: gives you your you. High school is when you are
Speaker 1: separating your identity from your parents. Because before you get
Speaker 1: your license, before you have your after school activities or
Speaker 1: your whatever, you hang out with who your parents tell
Speaker 1: you to hang out with. You go to the restaurants
Speaker 1: your parents tell you to go to, You go to
Speaker 1: church if your parents tell you to, like, you have
Speaker 1: to do all those things. And it's only when you're
Speaker 1: kind of mobile and you're on your own that you
Speaker 1: can say, you know what, I'm not going to do that,
Speaker 1: and I'm going to do this. And so seeing these
Speaker 1: kids flex that and be like I'm I'm not getting
Speaker 1: involved there, I'm going to go create this own little bubble,
Speaker 1: my own bubble. It's good that you just made me
Speaker 1: think of something that I genuinely had not connected those
Speaker 1: dots about transport before. Because for me, growing up in
Speaker 1: a in like a blended family in terms of even faith,
Speaker 1: like I grew up going to mask my mom was
Speaker 1: raised Catholic, I grew up going to synagogue for all
Speaker 1: the Jewish holidays. And it's like one of my favorite
Speaker 1: things about my family is that there was this breadth
Speaker 1: of you can examine all these things, like you can
Speaker 1: read all of the books, what what to you strikes
Speaker 1: you as true in all of them if you reduce
Speaker 1: them down. Yeah, And like that was such an inspiring
Speaker 1: thing for me as a kid. And it's like I
Speaker 1: never thought about the fact that prior to being able
Speaker 1: to drive, if you didn't get to go and explore
Speaker 1: a bunch of things just by the you know, happenstance
Speaker 1: of like luck, that you might have been curious about
Speaker 1: something and literally never had the opportunity. And I think
Speaker 1: about how much I was able to to kind of
Speaker 1: find my own identity because I had all these different
Speaker 1: places to go, and I wonder, like I wonder if
Speaker 1: that's why. You know, the first time I went to
Speaker 1: sleepaway camp, I was nine and I came home after
Speaker 1: two weeks and my parents were like so worried that
Speaker 1: I would be I would just be so homesick and whatever.
Speaker 1: And this little nine year old I looked at my
Speaker 1: parents and I said, I loved it. Can I go
Speaker 1: for the whole summer next year? And my mom was
Speaker 1: like what she was heartbroken? She was heartbroken, but like
Speaker 1: in this moment, I'm realizing, oh my god, that's the
Speaker 1: place I got to go and be an individual all
Speaker 1: on my own, like, and it didn't matter that I
Speaker 1: couldn't drive, because I would I would get on a bus,
Speaker 1: I would go to camp and then I would do
Speaker 1: all of the things all by myself. And I loved it.
Speaker 1: And it's like still to this day, people will be like,
Speaker 1: you were a camp counselor weren't you. I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's truly where I found myself and I I don't know,
Speaker 1: I'm having like a completely existential moment of going, Wow,
Speaker 1: I didn't I didn't tie like the beauty of that
Speaker 1: freedom to the reality that I couldn't go anywhere without
Speaker 1: a ride for another eight years. Yeah, you don't think
Speaker 1: about that when you're I didn't think about that at all.
Speaker 1: That is wild. Well, it's fun. Kids have to have
Speaker 1: their little bubbles to find themselves. And you know, Nathan's
Speaker 1: finding it on the basketball court. Our other kids are
Speaker 1: finding it. You know, Skills is finding it, which is joy.
Speaker 1: You said it man, that storyline one the episode, So yeah,
Speaker 1: long overdue. I'm so glad to see Antoine getting his
Speaker 1: own storyline. Um. That sequence was great on the basketball court.
Speaker 1: You really felt like the rush of energy that he
Speaker 1: was bringing to the court. And I thought our director
Speaker 1: did a very nice job of showing at the beginning
Speaker 1: of the game just sort of the nice steady traveling shot,
Speaker 1: watching the watching the guys go back and forth, and
Speaker 1: and then and Skills got on the court, it was
Speaker 1: like bam bam boom up close and then then they're
Speaker 1: like tustling, and it was just really exciting. It was
Speaker 1: gorgeous and it's really cool like to see. I think
Speaker 1: it's been something that's been so electric for us as
Speaker 1: viewers watching James played basketball because he's such a good
Speaker 1: basketball player, and Antoine is such a good basketball player,
Speaker 1: like everybody, all the other boys on the show. Had
Speaker 1: to learn some basketball skills to act like basketball players.
Speaker 1: But those two there, they play in leagues, like they
Speaker 1: are so naturally inclined and good at the sport that
Speaker 1: now to have two of them on camera is like electric.
Speaker 1: It's so exciting. And yeah, I even knowing that we
Speaker 1: were going to watch it and like we made the show,
Speaker 1: I was so aled. He was just like an amped viewer.
Speaker 1: Antoine is a really good actor, and I don't feel
Speaker 1: like he gets his do because everyone is assuming that
Speaker 1: he is just taken what's on the page and like
Speaker 1: giving it a little bit of polish and like making
Speaker 1: it funny. Right, this episode saw skills so grounded and calm,
Speaker 1: and in the scene with Lucas and the bleachers where
Speaker 1: he is nervous and he's serious about joining the team,
Speaker 1: he's so still. And we know Antoine personally, we know
Speaker 1: that he's like our buddy who is good for a
Speaker 1: dirty joke, like a really bad internet meme, you know,
Speaker 1: like Antoine is all jokes and all fun. He's all
Speaker 1: energy too. He's always like moving and to see him
Speaker 1: so still, and then he does it again later in
Speaker 1: the episode, he's really like, yeah, when when Lucas is like,
Speaker 1: maybe we shouldn't have left, and he says that's a
Speaker 1: stupid way to think, and all three of us are like, yeah,
Speaker 1: he's just so still in a way that a lot
Speaker 1: of the rest of us aren't in the in the episodes.
Speaker 1: And maybe that's because Antone was older than we are
Speaker 1: and had, you know, different experiences, but the way some
Speaker 1: of us are like, I know, I always use my
Speaker 1: hands and I'm always like a little bit huffy and
Speaker 1: like a lot of nervous energy. To see someone so
Speaker 1: still and committed to the material is great. I love
Speaker 1: that he made skills that person. And it was also
Speaker 1: such a It was such an amazing sampling of all
Speaker 1: of his of all of Antoine's acting skills, because he
Speaker 1: shows you that vulnerability, he shows you that stillness, He
Speaker 1: shows you his prowess as an athlete, and you watch
Speaker 1: him get all jacked up on that adrenaline and that
Speaker 1: joy and that success, and and then in that moment
Speaker 1: at the river court, he's able to bring it down,
Speaker 1: but he brings his humor. We get every kind of
Speaker 1: flavor of the friend that skills is, and in an
Speaker 1: interesting way, it almost feels like it it's like it
Speaker 1: fills in the backstory of the River Court boys with
Speaker 1: more depth than we've had on an ensemble show for
Speaker 1: for our friends at home, and you've probably heard us
Speaker 1: talk about this. You get a lot of oh, well
Speaker 1: that happened off camera. Those two went to them all
Speaker 1: like you just seven years ago when this happened exactly. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I've always had a crush on Uncle Cooper. We've never
Speaker 1: seen him before. You know, it's like all that stuff,
Speaker 1: and you know they fill it that way and this
Speaker 1: like watching this whole episode every time Skills is on camera,
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm getting to know all of those
Speaker 1: boys better. And that's an incredible thing to be able
Speaker 1: to do as an actor and such a testament to
Speaker 1: Antoine that he personalized every word and so it didn't
Speaker 1: just feel like a present moment. It also felt like
Speaker 1: a backstory. When he wins beer pong, Oh, that transition
Speaker 1: to transition from the basketball going into the net and
Speaker 1: then he throws it and the ball in midair turns
Speaker 1: into a ping pong ball that is painted like a
Speaker 1: basketball and it goes into a cup and they're playing
Speaker 1: beer pong at a party. It was that was a really,
Speaker 1: really great shot, and I will say, you know, um,
Speaker 1: John Asher directed this episode and John is not much
Speaker 1: older than us, and like, you know, kind of was
Speaker 1: everybody's like big frat brother or something. Yeah, Like and
Speaker 1: I say, this would love but we're all giggling because
Speaker 1: like he drove a grace but we loved it. You know.
Speaker 1: It's like that kind of big brother energy where you
Speaker 1: know you're you know you're gonna get teased or whatever.
Speaker 1: And God, I think sometimes we can forget like how
Speaker 1: creative he was on our show. And I know we've
Speaker 1: talked about this before. Joy, you brought this up recently
Speaker 1: that sometimes directors would come on our show and like
Speaker 1: test things for other shows. Yeah, this is such a
Speaker 1: testament to what it means to be creative inside the
Speaker 1: world of a ship. In the context. Yeah, like he
Speaker 1: always stated, in context, always in context, And that's something
Speaker 1: I really admire in anybody in charge. And like, it
Speaker 1: seems so simple, but to turn a basketball shot into
Speaker 1: a beer pong shot like Chef's kiss, it's more fun
Speaker 1: than just like ending the game and then suddenly we're
Speaker 1: at a party. Just fun, creative nostalgia. Give me more.
Speaker 1: I want it all the time. I want that party,
Speaker 1: so we got so then we get to the party.
Speaker 1: Who knew Rachel's house had that backyard? I know, right, Like,
Speaker 1: whoa do you guys remember filming that party? I do?
Speaker 1: I don't really. I have like visceral memories of like
Speaker 1: bowls of chips and like like I can close my
Speaker 1: eyes and I'm there with Lee and Matt Barr. I know.
Speaker 1: Just oh, that's so funny. Yeah, it's weird which episodes
Speaker 1: pop like that, you know, because I had totally forgotten
Speaker 1: about this episode. We're entering into the zone where I had,
Speaker 1: in my personal life gotten married, and it was very
Speaker 1: awful and dramatic right from the beginning. So I don't
Speaker 1: like every I feel like the next couple of seasons
Speaker 1: are all going to be I'm a little lost in
Speaker 1: memories set because because I was so lost in my
Speaker 1: own world of drama that I missed a lot of these.
Speaker 1: But you also lived on airplanes like work. You know,
Speaker 1: you were a machine. You would show up, no your
Speaker 1: ship hit that mark, and then have to fly across
Speaker 1: the country making connections. It was a good party. Now
Speaker 1: here's my question. Here's my question on the quad. Earlier
Speaker 1: in the episode, Brooke gives Haley this like whole ass
Speaker 1: like you better pick a side speech just to defend Peyton.
Speaker 1: There was no tongue. I yelled it at the screen.
Speaker 1: There's no tongue. You guys are blowing this out of proportion.
Speaker 1: Brooke doesn't know that, so she's she is imagining the
Speaker 1: worst of it, which is what it was the first time.
Speaker 1: And it's really interesting to me that Lucas I wanted
Speaker 1: to punch him in this episode. He goes, you, you
Speaker 1: broke up with me and didn't give me a real reason.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry what You've hooked up with my best friend
Speaker 1: multiple times. I just like, you're over at her house.
Speaker 1: I'm seeing you on her webcamp, Like what are you
Speaker 1: talking about? Yeah, it's interesting that when Brooke breaks up
Speaker 1: with him, she's very like adult and sure about it
Speaker 1: and talked about the last episode. But now it's like
Speaker 1: it's it's eating at her. It's like, no, actually I
Speaker 1: am really pissed about well, yeah, now that I have
Speaker 1: to be above board. Yeah, she's like, I did the thing.
Speaker 1: I had the conversation with you from my highest self,
Speaker 1: but actually I want to punch you in the phase.
Speaker 1: Yeah that tracks I have that sometimes where I'm like,
Speaker 1: I was too nice. I should have I really I
Speaker 1: didn't say the thing I wanted to say. And now
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, I'm walking around my house reliving the
Speaker 1: argument because I was polite and I really should have
Speaker 1: called you on this this fill in the blank. And
Speaker 1: I think what's interesting about it is that it's always
Speaker 1: been played like the Brook and Payton conflict. Right. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm stomping across the quad. Nobody wants to be on
Speaker 1: team Paint because the captain's a big hor you know.
Speaker 1: It's like, it's all hilarious, so much never holds back man,
Speaker 1: Like we we have just been crying laughing. It is
Speaker 1: so funny. It's like some of my favorite brand of
Speaker 1: Brooke Davis comedy. But watching it now also, I'm like,
Speaker 1: wait a second, here we are being pit against each other.
Speaker 1: It's all his fault. This dumb boy didn't tell the truth,
Speaker 1: didn't give a clear explanation. Then is telling her, how
Speaker 1: dare you be mad at me? And it's like, bro,
Speaker 1: you haven't even actually told me what happened. You're just
Speaker 1: letting me walk around think the worst, thinking the worst
Speaker 1: of everything. And then he has the nerve to say
Speaker 1: you didn't fight for me. Hello, have you been present
Speaker 1: for the last two two and a half years. You've
Speaker 1: had to have so many grown up conversations with him.
Speaker 1: I'm flabbergasted because again we remember what we remember, and
Speaker 1: it's like it's deja vu, truly to the first time
Speaker 1: this happened, where I'm like, wait a second, this isn't
Speaker 1: even about us. This is his fault. And that's the
Speaker 1: definition of insanity, doing the same over and over over
Speaker 1: and over and expecting a different outcome. It will never
Speaker 1: had to in that lesson a few times with these two.
Speaker 1: Here's here's my thing though, for all of Brooks, like
Speaker 1: you know, bluster, she's pissed. That would seem to me
Speaker 1: like the reasonable spot where Haley would look at her
Speaker 1: friend and be like, oh, you want me to pick sides?
Speaker 1: You're living in Rachel's house and she is incredibly problematic
Speaker 1: to me, are you going to pick a side? Um?
Speaker 1: And we and you know, like I have it that
Speaker 1: in my notes at the top of the episode, and
Speaker 1: certainly we get there, but we Brook arrives at that
Speaker 1: spot on her own. Haley isn't like, hey, reciprocate, you
Speaker 1: know well, which I actually think is better because yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't think Haley is that kind of person. Also,
Speaker 1: Haley knows Brooks not living with Rachel for ships and giggles.
Speaker 1: Brooke doesn't have a house, so it's like, where's she
Speaker 1: going to go? You know, she's a sixteen year old
Speaker 1: kid who has nowhere to go. Or I guess she's
Speaker 1: also never been as far as I can remember, she's
Speaker 1: never been the kind of person that like, she doesn't
Speaker 1: seem to loop people in with problems and and try
Speaker 1: and triangulate. Yeah, she's very like compartmentalized with people. Why
Speaker 1: doesn't Lucas just go to her house? Seriously? Like two
Speaker 1: Brooks point, why is he always at Peyton's house If
Speaker 1: he's trying to sort out as ship Haley is now
Speaker 1: a closer friend to Brooke, he isn't he at her house? Yeah?
Speaker 1: It's weird. It's poking the bear man, it really, it
Speaker 1: really is. It's very interesting. But as much as I'm
Speaker 1: having the moment of going, wait a minute, this is
Speaker 1: all this teenage boy making a mess, why did they
Speaker 1: keep pitting the girls against each other? I know, I
Speaker 1: know TV drama. The thing I will say that I
Speaker 1: don't like that like, you know, all of it makes
Speaker 1: sense to me. I'm amused by this, just realizing like
Speaker 1: it's this diption, like why are we fighting? The one
Speaker 1: thing that irked me, and that's probably because it's meant
Speaker 1: to I don't like. And I wonder why none of
Speaker 1: the men caught it, But I don't know, maybe they
Speaker 1: did it on purpose. I don't like a boy walking
Speaker 1: up to a girl at a party who is surrounded
Speaker 1: by a group of boys and saying she's all yours.
Speaker 1: I didn't like that. I really thought it was gross.
Speaker 1: It made me feel unsafe. It made me like even now,
Speaker 1: like if I saw a boy say that to a girl,
Speaker 1: like the lesson I would give him about like violence
Speaker 1: against women and consent and women are not property. You
Speaker 1: don't get to give her away like it. That like
Speaker 1: really triggered some for me. I really did not like that.
Speaker 1: And I and maybe it's because we're adults now, and
Speaker 1: I think, like, oh, come on, like adults wrote this,
Speaker 1: don't do that. But maybe it's because it's supposed to
Speaker 1: be a boy being gross. I don't. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: if everyone knows that he's the protector, he's the guy
Speaker 1: that gets girls home safe from parties, and he just
Speaker 1: declares it to everyone, you can have her. I'm done here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't like it. Yeah, being trying to be in
Speaker 1: the position where don't do that. Boys, any boys listening
Speaker 1: to our show be better than that. We'll look at
Speaker 1: the different or look at the similarities between what Brooke
Speaker 1: has been saying to Lucas, let me in, let me in,
Speaker 1: let me in. Yeah, and the speech that the beautiful
Speaker 1: scene that Haley has with Nathan let me in. I
Speaker 1: was thinking that I'm trying so hard not to be
Speaker 1: a psycho and have my feelings hurt. Can you just
Speaker 1: tell me what's going on? And the difference in in
Speaker 1: the way the boys respond yes, because Nathan immediately says, wait,
Speaker 1: that's what you think. Because when people won't let you in,
Speaker 1: when they won't tell you what's happening, but you know
Speaker 1: something's wrong, the natural human assumption is to think, well,
Speaker 1: they won't to me because it's me. And the minute
Speaker 1: Nathan realizes that Haley is personalizing his distance, his pain,
Speaker 1: his confusion, he shuts it down and that was you, guys,
Speaker 1: such a such a good job in that scene. He's
Speaker 1: not playing games with her, He's totally there in present
Speaker 1: with her, and I loved that. I I don't know
Speaker 1: why he's not sharing with her. I guess they're both
Speaker 1: keeping secrets, but I don't know why he's not sharing
Speaker 1: with her all of this trauma that he's going through.
Speaker 1: I did not like the way he walked up to
Speaker 1: Rachel at that party that listen. Was there like a
Speaker 1: little one in you because you guys played husband and wife,
Speaker 1: you know whatever, was there a little thing in you
Speaker 1: that that um subconsciously bubbles up when you see something
Speaker 1: like that, Like do you feel jealous in real life?
Speaker 1: I know I get territorial over some people. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think. I mean on the show, I do. I
Speaker 1: never felt that way in real life, but when I
Speaker 1: when I'm watching, I'm so invested in these characters. That
Speaker 1: was like, excuse me, why are you leaning up against
Speaker 1: a wall right behind Rachel with your arm up and
Speaker 1: like giving her the impression that you're I mean, I
Speaker 1: get it was for a shot, Yeah, let's justify it,
Speaker 1: but it was on purpose. It was sexy. It was
Speaker 1: all three of us went like juked back from the
Speaker 1: screen a little bit before. Absolutely not, And I think
Speaker 1: I do think that was that feels like a conscious
Speaker 1: choice on the part of like the director and the
Speaker 1: actors in the scene to go, we've got to we've
Speaker 1: got to do some things that will create confusion for Rachel.
Speaker 1: But like, whoa, it wasn't the right move though I
Speaker 1: thought that. I agree, it was sexy, and it was
Speaker 1: it was a misdirect, but it was so out of
Speaker 1: character for Nathan. I mean, yeah, I don't know though,
Speaker 1: I don't know that it's out of character because Nathan
Speaker 1: Scott is still Dance Scott's son, like he's not an angel,
Speaker 1: and I would like exploring that storyline. If we were
Speaker 1: exploring that storyline of him growing and dealing with the
Speaker 1: fact that he's married but still attracted to other girls
Speaker 1: and doesn't know how to handle it, that's a that's
Speaker 1: something to explore. Yeah, but my only fear their joy
Speaker 1: and I get it, And that's such a tendency of
Speaker 1: mine to be like, well, hold on, what are we
Speaker 1: really saying? People do dumb all the time they do.
Speaker 1: I think we have to, like sometimes we want to justify,
Speaker 1: like why someone's doing something. Sometimes people just do things
Speaker 1: they don't even realize they're doing it, Like he he
Speaker 1: might have thought I'm gonna come intimidate her a little
Speaker 1: bit and be like hey, like and stand over her
Speaker 1: and like whatever. And then to us as girls were like, whoa,
Speaker 1: that's hot. What are you doing? You know, like you
Speaker 1: have any idea liket? Yeah, we're like accident, like, sir,
Speaker 1: put those arms away, Like make sense to you. It's
Speaker 1: street Car named Desire, right, he's Stanley, Yes. Where it's
Speaker 1: like you're coming into my world here. You're you're pretending
Speaker 1: to be nice with like my woman and all my
Speaker 1: woman's friends and stuff, and then you're like flirting with
Speaker 1: me and like there's a weird energy here. It's a
Speaker 1: very Tennessee Williams vibe. Like James Lafferty is a Tennessee
Speaker 1: Williams actor. He would be so good in any one
Speaker 1: of those shows. I mean, I feel like that shot
Speaker 1: actually was from either street Car or a cat on
Speaker 1: the huntin roof or something. Haven't we seen that shot before? Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's being salacious without him laying a hand on her.
Speaker 1: He doesn't touch her. Yeah, it feels like a power move,
Speaker 1: which probably is why it flustered us all in the
Speaker 1: second or just or are we just all attracted to people?
Speaker 1: I don't know, but what I will say is interesting
Speaker 1: to think about it in the context of the storyline
Speaker 1: for Nathan, like how well he does to let Haley in,
Speaker 1: how how much he really is trying to process all
Speaker 1: of this, even even saying to Haley about Rachel, like
Speaker 1: I think she's got some trauma, not that it's our problem,
Speaker 1: you know. I felt like the kind of energy of
Speaker 1: that scene. I loved the the sweet, disarmed friendship of
Speaker 1: Nathan and Peyton in this episode. I loved seeing him
Speaker 1: at that time when you came over and said you're
Speaker 1: over here by yourself. That used to be our signal.
Speaker 1: I like platonic Peyton, and I like that her and
Speaker 1: Nathan are in this space. Here's what troubled me in
Speaker 1: this episode. Why couldn't I match that will of platonic
Speaker 1: with the actor playing my hot brother. I'm so glad
Speaker 1: we're getting here. I was burying the lead. I didn't
Speaker 1: want to talk about Peyton because this is like so
Speaker 1: exciting and so juicy, and I was like, we gotta
Speaker 1: save it for the second happen. I'm just blushing the
Speaker 1: whole time. Matt bar is talking to me, and I'm like, look,
Speaker 1: I can do a scene with Nathan where I'm like,
Speaker 1: come on, buddy, I can do scenes with Lucas where
Speaker 1: I'm like, buddy, buddy, buddy. Okay. We gotta say the thing.
Speaker 1: Though we had been working with all these boys for
Speaker 1: three and a half years. The hot wears off. It
Speaker 1: wears off fast, it does. Like to say it, but
Speaker 1: everything becomes relative really quickly. Like if Giselle was your neighbor,
Speaker 1: you would stop gawking at her eventually, you know, I
Speaker 1: mean maybe not her, but you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: like popcorn every day, Like like James and Chad and
Speaker 1: all the boys on the basketball team, Like they got
Speaker 1: to just be these goober boys that we made fun
Speaker 1: of and we'd be like, why are you doing that?
Speaker 1: Like why are you playing those video games? We did
Speaker 1: them like tons of dumb ship. Remember when they did
Speaker 1: each other to lay on that ant hill, Oh my god,
Speaker 1: like come on those ding dongs, And like I say
Speaker 1: it with love, we loved them, but like they became
Speaker 1: just like you gross boys. Matt Bar had been around
Speaker 1: for forty eight hours. Nobody was used to him, and
Speaker 1: he stood really. Look, Derek was supposed to be creepy.
Speaker 1: Matt Bar stood so close to you. I was I
Speaker 1: was blushing. I wasn't even in the scene, and I
Speaker 1: was like, I am, I am sweating. I don't know
Speaker 1: how like the loveliest person. He's the best guy. He
Speaker 1: was like just he was really doing such a nice
Speaker 1: job of being so friendly and respectful and interested, and
Speaker 1: yet there was this slow hint of danger. And the
Speaker 1: danger maybe is what we were attracted to. A guy
Speaker 1: who's really nice and respectful but also feels maybe a
Speaker 1: little dangerous, So you know, that's fun. Um So I
Speaker 1: think that's probably what the energy was that we were like, oh,
Speaker 1: this is kind of attractive, but it turned out to
Speaker 1: be it's psychotic and not so embarrassed. And that's part
Speaker 1: of the interesting thing, right, is when you're playing these misdirects,
Speaker 1: like Matt finds out he's going to have to be
Speaker 1: the nightmare of Peyton's life, not actually her brother, you know,
Speaker 1: this whole creepy thing, but you have to play the
Speaker 1: brother before the turn you to it. Yeah, like I
Speaker 1: you know, my storyline in this episode, Brooke is not
Speaker 1: pregnant but has to behave like she is. You know,
Speaker 1: I had to think, like, oh my god, Brooke is
Speaker 1: going to have Lucas's baby. Everything is going to be awful.
Speaker 1: I had to go there so that we'd be surprised
Speaker 1: when we found out it was Haley, Like you did
Speaker 1: absolutely oh they wanted but you were just being a
Speaker 1: good friend. I thought you were just like, oh, of course,
Speaker 1: but but fully like they were like, everyone has to
Speaker 1: really think you're pregnant. So so I had to play it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: of course, you know, it's Brooks being a good friend
Speaker 1: and is keeping Haley's secret. But as an actor, I
Speaker 1: was like, I have to pick moments where I'm going
Speaker 1: to play the scene like I am so that the
Speaker 1: audience is really like I don't want anybody to be
Speaker 1: able to wonder, and and that's like it's a weird
Speaker 1: thing to have. That's like one of the weird things
Speaker 1: about our jobs, you know. Yeah, I mean I don't know.
Speaker 1: I we all know where the Psycho Derek of it
Speaker 1: is going, and it's it's so dark that I'm frankly
Speaker 1: a little bit nervous to get there. I'm just enjoying
Speaker 1: your commitment to Peyton being happy for at least like
Speaker 1: five or the drama. It's just like it's not gonna
Speaker 1: get me down. No, Like Brooke is just literally telling
Speaker 1: Peyton like, I hope you die in a fire, and
Speaker 1: Peyton's like, anyway, have you met my hot brother? Just smiled.
Speaker 1: I really loved that too. I loved the like, I mean, god,
Speaker 1: we're so angry at each other, but all of our
Speaker 1: banter is hilarious, so good. Everything in this episode between
Speaker 1: us is so funny. You know your I love you
Speaker 1: kill people? Well, then I love you Brooke. Oh god,
Speaker 1: I loved that you were. I love watching you be
Speaker 1: happy and vulnerable and excited and just ready for a
Speaker 1: new chapter in life. It's so depressed thing that it's
Speaker 1: like every single thing that that comes into Peyton's life
Speaker 1: turns out to be a big wet blanket there. I mean,
Speaker 1: Peyton took him on the death walk of Tree Hill.
Speaker 1: That's how you know she's like invested where she's like,
Speaker 1: do you want to see my friends almost died last week?
Speaker 1: And you want to see my mom is buried? And
Speaker 1: you want to see my other mom is buried? And
Speaker 1: do you want to see Like it's so desperate for
Speaker 1: someone close, someone to know her and see her, And
Speaker 1: it just would have been better if he wasn't as
Speaker 1: handsome because Peyton's enthusiasm reads as very like Game of
Speaker 1: Thrones to me. Haven't you guys ever had a hot
Speaker 1: family member though? No, you know, no if you met
Speaker 1: my relitives, no, I'm sure listen. If any of you
Speaker 1: are listening, you're gorgeous. But I do have not wanted
Speaker 1: to kiss, you know, like second cousins or people that
Speaker 1: you've met later that are and you're like, wow, this
Speaker 1: is too bad. Girl. I turned eighteen and I left
Speaker 1: Rginia and there was just no turning back. So I
Speaker 1: bet I have hot family members out there. Uh, but no,
Speaker 1: that's so funny. I mean you have set the boundary.
Speaker 1: But I've totally had that moment. Really. Yeah, it's like
Speaker 1: what you can't help if you're attracted to somebody that's
Speaker 1: just your body is just like you're suddenly feeling like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, I'm attracted to this person. Then you've
Speaker 1: got to be like, well, shutting that down right now,
Speaker 1: because because you're related and you're really attracted to yourself.
Speaker 1: But it's you're like, you're looking just like me. Oh
Speaker 1: it's not, it's but it's not with people that you like, grew,
Speaker 1: that you've known the whole time. No, it's like someone
Speaker 1: that you meet later who's like a second or third
Speaker 1: cousin or like a once removed kind of a thing.
Speaker 1: And you know, I don't know, I can't believe you've
Speaker 1: never had that experience. Well I have. I found out
Speaker 1: that my great great grandfather moved to Washington State after
Speaker 1: his wife died, and I went on this like mad
Speaker 1: spiral where I was like, oh, Jeff and related like
Speaker 1: I just feel like, yeah, I was just like, wait
Speaker 1: of horrifying. Yeah. Yeah, that's the kind of ship that
Speaker 1: keeps you up at night and makes you thankful for
Speaker 1: the Internet because we're not um thank god, but no
Speaker 1: is complicated. Yeah, yeah, that would be really hard. I
Speaker 1: feel like there have been Oh yeah, I'm going I
Speaker 1: feel like there's a movie that I loved that's about this. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Clueless Share Share is in love with her stepbrother stepbrother
Speaker 1: very close, that's closer than a cousin, but there's no
Speaker 1: there's no blood. It's like it's like as a as
Speaker 1: a teenager, her dad married a woman who had a
Speaker 1: son in college. So that's when they meet in Clueless
Speaker 1: and she's like, oh my god, I love Josh, Which
Speaker 1: did I love Josh we're all in love with Paul,
Speaker 1: so like, no one is surprised, but that hilarious in
Speaker 1: a movie. I don't I don't think, I jo I
Speaker 1: don't think I could. I figured it out. I figured
Speaker 1: out my No, you can't get over it, of course not.
Speaker 1: My mom had an uncle Paul, and so he was
Speaker 1: my second uncle, great uncle, what do you call those?
Speaker 1: And he had a ponytail and a beard, and he
Speaker 1: like worked for the government, and he had this like
Speaker 1: hippie wife, Tanya, and he was hot and he was
Speaker 1: like he was like the cool liberal uncle at Christmas
Speaker 1: and Thanksgiving and stuff, and I just thought he was
Speaker 1: They traveled the world. I think they had a sitar
Speaker 1: player at their wedding or something. Cool. Yeah, uncle Pop,
Speaker 1: I get it, I get it, I get it. Handsome
Speaker 1: relative and Matt bar just making me look like I know.
Speaker 1: And we saw him recently on our tour and he's
Speaker 1: still just handsome as ever and so kind and lovely.
Speaker 1: It's a sweet, great person and still working a lot.
Speaker 1: And we're lucky that we got him on the shop.
Speaker 1: Was so fun to have him tour with us. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: just because we haven't hear about his work and yeah,
Speaker 1: to hear about his work and to meet his fiancee,
Speaker 1: and like, it was just so lovely and it's such
Speaker 1: a wild thing. You know, we're I know, we're doing
Speaker 1: those um tour stops, his bonus episodes for y'all. But ah, Unfortunately,
Speaker 1: if you if you got to do the video stream,
Speaker 1: you didn't get to see Matt because he wasn't he
Speaker 1: wasn't there that night. But my god, it was so
Speaker 1: interesting to hear about the way people started really responding
Speaker 1: to him in public after that story. It's so sad.
Speaker 1: It breaks my heart for him because him in public,
Speaker 1: I love his game for it. Though he doesn't it
Speaker 1: doesn't really bother him. He's like, hey, Manny, I'm nervous
Speaker 1: to watch this unfold with Peyton. Though it's a it's
Speaker 1: a storyline I was on set for. I heard about it.
Speaker 1: I remember reading it in the script and being like, well,
Speaker 1: that's gonna be really insane, but okay, but you know
Speaker 1: you just kind of I missed it. So I'm yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm excited to see your work, but I'm also not
Speaker 1: excited about this. You know. I was always hoping for
Speaker 1: redemption for him, because he does fit the group very well.
Speaker 1: Because the scene he has with Mouth was one of
Speaker 1: my favorite of the episode where Mouth gives him the
Speaker 1: whole new guy thing and he just plays. He plays
Speaker 1: the straight man in a way that like James does
Speaker 1: you know? And I love that Lee got the opportunity
Speaker 1: to go balls out this episode. He loved it. Lee
Speaker 1: is so good in this episode and his his physical
Speaker 1: comedy his like his drunk comedy. Lucas says, what did
Speaker 1: he yell at Luca's when he sat down? And what
Speaker 1: is it like to me? What the mouth? I tell
Speaker 1: my God? And then Lucas goes, how many of those
Speaker 1: have you had? And he goes, including this one out?
Speaker 1: He is the best. I love that he got to
Speaker 1: do that. And Gi was back in this episode. Yes
Speaker 1: you got to see her for a minute. I wish
Speaker 1: they would give her something else to say at this
Speaker 1: obsession with like the sweet innocent girl being secretly naughty
Speaker 1: is really gross. The that's the deal. Teen year old
Speaker 1: girl says she's aroused, Okay, it's I would like there
Speaker 1: to be a line. Yeah, that's pretty gross. It's but
Speaker 1: we're fine. Seeing her sweet face makes me happy and
Speaker 1: I'm really looking forward to seeing her storyline develops. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I just love what she's done with her career. You know,
Speaker 1: like she starts off being like the one line singer
Speaker 1: at fourteen years old on this you know, big ensemble
Speaker 1: thing and then becomes this goddess on yellows we need
Speaker 1: to be yellow Stone. Have you seen her lately with
Speaker 1: this girl? I saw her on the red carpet the
Speaker 1: other day with like like a black silk dress with
Speaker 1: like some sheer panels in it, and I was like,
Speaker 1: get it, get it. Looks amazing. She's so such a
Speaker 1: still such a total sweetheart too. I just love her.
Speaker 1: Um what else, well, well, listen, Sophia called it in
Speaker 1: the middle of the episode where she was like, everyone's
Speaker 1: so cranky and so we laughed so hard. This episode
Speaker 1: is true. Everyone is just cranky, cranky. I love a
Speaker 1: little cranky Rachel and Haley. Haley's cranky. Uh, oh my god,
Speaker 1: Brooke is cranky. Peyton's the only one who's not cranky
Speaker 1: for the first time. Maybe that's why I loved this episode.
Speaker 1: I mean, Peyton's always like slightly cranky, deep down, deep down. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but it is nice. It's nice to see you getting
Speaker 1: to be happy. And I don't know, it's it feels refreshing.
Speaker 1: It makes me sad knowing where it's going. Well, do
Speaker 1: you think he is only happy when everyone else is miserable? Like,
Speaker 1: do you feel like she's like, yes, it's your turn, bitches.
Speaker 1: You guys can do it now. Finally, yeah, well, what's
Speaker 1: where is it going? What's happening in the next episode?
Speaker 1: Do we have a small little preview. I mean, we've
Speaker 1: seen Derek's Wall of weird. Have you guys had anyone
Speaker 1: in your life that you find out, like after the
Speaker 1: fact is secretly a total creeper? Yeah? A couple. Really. Yeah,
Speaker 1: every once in a while you find out that someone
Speaker 1: that you think is super awesome is also like unhinged,
Speaker 1: and you're just like, oh cool, I'm really glad I
Speaker 1: let you into my room. Hum and my house and um.
Speaker 1: Lesson for the kids is, don't have a webcam not
Speaker 1: facing your bed. It's just a no, huge, huge no.
Speaker 1: It's a no, guys, please don't. Okay. So, so Lucas,
Speaker 1: So what we're reading from our fabulous producers is that
Speaker 1: next episode, Lucas is going to start to notice how
Speaker 1: close Peyton and her brother are gadding, which again is
Speaker 1: just so weird um, and we saw a little bit
Speaker 1: of that, you know, like she brings Lucas is her
Speaker 1: protection in the very first scene, and he's pointing out like, oh,
Speaker 1: you guys are totally the same. You're totally the same.
Speaker 1: And I guess that's cued upuntil the point. But yeah,
Speaker 1: they're really going for it right away. I think they
Speaker 1: were going to keep him around for much longer. We
Speaker 1: have a question. Let's answer some questions. Yeah, okay, is
Speaker 1: that Bertie? Yeah? Has Grant? They asked if Grant or
Speaker 1: jeff have seen the show? Seen One Tree Home. I
Speaker 1: feel like we answer this all the time. Yeah, we do. Um, well, Bertie, no, Uh.
Speaker 1: There is a big running joke around here at Drama
Speaker 1: Queens that neither my husband nor Hillary's husband has seen
Speaker 1: a single episode of our show, and so we've been
Speaker 1: we've been sort of joking, and now we think maybe
Speaker 1: it would be hilarious if we started making Grant and
Speaker 1: Jeffrey watch it and they can do their own podcast.
Speaker 1: Tell us what you think. I don't know a bit
Speaker 1: of rivalry in our house because Jeff played I think
Speaker 1: Ben Mackenzie's dad in prison on the C like no,
Speaker 1: on the O C. From I don't know a couple
Speaker 1: of I don't know the specifics. I just know that
Speaker 1: there are pictures flown around of him in a jumpsuit
Speaker 1: on the Let's See Who he Is? Show? And so
Speaker 1: maybe that rivalry is real. Maybe it has infiltrated itself
Speaker 1: into my domestic sphere. Jeffrey as Joe Zakowski. Who's Joe
Speaker 1: Zikowski on the Huh? I don't know. Maybe there's a
Speaker 1: fan that can fill me in as his wife, as
Speaker 1: his partner of thirteen years. I don't know. Well, all
Speaker 1: I'm hearing is that you've never seen him on it either,
Speaker 1: which feels fair. He's got a sick beard. Hold on,
Speaker 1: I'm finding pictures. His hair's all dark. I would dated
Speaker 1: updated actors, and I don't like watching their I don't
Speaker 1: like them watching my work, and it feels a little
Speaker 1: uncomfortable watching their's because it just is like, unless it's
Speaker 1: something that, look at this, look at that. Wait, they're
Speaker 1: pulling it up on the screen right now. Amazing. Who
Speaker 1: is Sandy? Who's the character Sandy on the O C all.
Speaker 1: The description I'm seeing is Sandy visited Joe Zakowski in prison.
Speaker 1: I mean his prison beard is really Yeah, I'd kissed
Speaker 1: that guy for sure. Listen, I'll watch his episodes of
Speaker 1: The o C if he watches my episodes and one
Speaker 1: real it significantly. Let's work on Yeah. Um, oh it's
Speaker 1: Adam Brody's dad. Oh that Sandy is Adam Brody's dad.
Speaker 1: So I guess Peter Gallagher was going to see Jeff.
Speaker 1: I mean, what a bad guy. Anyway, Anyway, we have
Speaker 1: another question, umu Aksha, I probably said that wrong. A
Speaker 1: consha is asking sides friendships. What continues to bring you
Speaker 1: joy from the One Tree Hill experience? Well, this show does, certainly,
Speaker 1: But I guess that's part of the friendship h question. Um,
Speaker 1: I guess it's the interaction with the fans, right, the
Speaker 1: people that still come up and tell us like what
Speaker 1: an impact the show made, or something that our character
Speaker 1: did or went through that mirrored something they were going
Speaker 1: through and helped them process it, or even just was
Speaker 1: a place of comfort for them to go h. Consistently,
Speaker 1: those those are great stories. I always love to hear that.
Speaker 1: It makes me happy to know that this show is
Speaker 1: continuing to have that kind of an impact. I mean,
Speaker 1: as I have a toddler leaning on me, really pissed.
Speaker 1: I won't buire another game on the eye had I
Speaker 1: like that. I've got a record of six years where
Speaker 1: I was cool. Goddamn it. I was cool and the
Speaker 1: kids like like every parent on the planets, like I
Speaker 1: was cool once and I had fun once and neat
Speaker 1: clothes in trove a cloth car and it was before
Speaker 1: you guys were around. And you may not believe me,
Speaker 1: but I'm awesome and I have I have a over
Speaker 1: a hundred episodes that I can make these old sunk
Speaker 1: asses sit down and watch. Hey, I was George, That's right,
Speaker 1: I was cool. That's so funny. Hillary, Maria somebody. Maria
Speaker 1: was with me the other day when somebody came up
Speaker 1: and they were like, I love johin Agents of Shields,
Speaker 1: and I said, oh, thank you so much. They walked
Speaker 1: away and she just looked at me like a fan
Speaker 1: and was like, you were on Agents of Shields. Yeah.
Speaker 1: She's like, isn't that Marvel, Yes it is, And she
Speaker 1: just stared at me. I was like, what, He's like, cool.
Speaker 1: It's like, go go clean your room now. Yeah, wash
Speaker 1: those dishes, kid, that's right, just because I'm cool. That
Speaker 1: is so Listen, You've got a storage locker full of
Speaker 1: stuff that you like from the od AG experience. That's right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, gosh, I think now it is really this.
Speaker 1: It's being able to go back and re experience it.
Speaker 1: You know. We I think we talked maybe last week
Speaker 1: or the week before about how, you know, by this
Speaker 1: point in the show, like we were getting made fun
Speaker 1: of on the soup and like it was it was
Speaker 1: weird because we were away, like we were gone. We
Speaker 1: didn't really know anything about what was happening out in
Speaker 1: the world or how we were perceived. We were just
Speaker 1: kind of locked up in Wilmington's together and like you know,
Speaker 1: hearing that sometimes people were being mean and we were
Speaker 1: all going through pretty confusing things in our personal lives,
Speaker 1: and it it added, i think, to the confusion to
Speaker 1: be isolated. So there's something really amazing about being able
Speaker 1: to go back and see what it really was together
Speaker 1: and we're home and we're like, we understand where we
Speaker 1: stand in the world in a different way than we
Speaker 1: did when we were when we were kids, and I'm
Speaker 1: really thankful for that. You know. Of course, it's cool
Speaker 1: when we go to the conventions and hear the stories
Speaker 1: and you know, we meet God I mean, we met
Speaker 1: so many families on our tour. You know that that
Speaker 1: young girl we met, that fourteen year old girl whose
Speaker 1: mom was like, this is Sophia And I was like,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, what you know? Are you for real? Like
Speaker 1: that's that's so cool, and and they're watching the show together,
Speaker 1: like that's all amazing. That is stuff. I was more
Speaker 1: accustomed to the specialness of those interactions. Being able to
Speaker 1: do this with you guys, for us as individuals has
Speaker 1: been just like the coolest gift because it it really
Speaker 1: does feel like we get to own this thing we
Speaker 1: made in a way that we didn't before. Now I
Speaker 1: understand why the people who come up to us come
Speaker 1: up to us. Now I understand why we might have
Speaker 1: made such an impact on someone's life for twenty years
Speaker 1: that you know their kids are named Sophia or Joy
Speaker 1: or peyton Brook. Like I get it in a way
Speaker 1: that I used to be flattered, and now I understand
Speaker 1: and that feels really special. Yes, I totally agree. Well, guys,
Speaker 1: thank you for joining us for this great episode. We
Speaker 1: had so much fun. Um and next week it's going
Speaker 1: to get real Harry real Dicey, So we'll get into that.
Speaker 1: We spinning a wheel. What are we doing? Oh shoot, yeah,
Speaker 1: let's spen aweel, we did a wheel? I forgot, give
Speaker 1: me the wheel? What do we got? Most likely? Too?
Speaker 1: Most likely to survive a zombie apocalypse? I mean, Hilary,
Speaker 1: I think it's you. Yeah, I feel like it is.
Speaker 1: I feel like you have the most experience in that world.
Speaker 1: Let me just tell you. When the pandemic hit and
Speaker 1: everyone was freaking out about toilet paper, guess who didn't
Speaker 1: have that problem Because I am I got everything. I
Speaker 1: got water filtration systems. You know, I grew up with preppers,
Speaker 1: and so you're prepped. I'm so prepped. But who on
Speaker 1: the show? What character on the show is ready to handle?
Speaker 1: That's good? I mean Deb? I feel like Deb is
Speaker 1: a real strong for that. Yes, Deb could like cauterize
Speaker 1: a wound, you know, like she's not afraid to do
Speaker 1: the gross stuff. Yeah. But also Dan is like a cockroach,
Speaker 1: like he can't kill him. The problem in the zombie
Speaker 1: apocalypse is that you develop relationships with people and then
Speaker 1: you can't put a spike in their head when they turn.
Speaker 1: And I feel like Dan and Deb wouldn't have that problem,
Speaker 1: Like they're like, oh, Nathan, you turned oops, you know
Speaker 1: we're good. Yeah, that's funny. Yeah, sweet sop. He's like,
Speaker 1: I don't know how I feel about that, Mike, No,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm digging it. I'm envisioning we never as many
Speaker 1: times as we jumped the shark. That is one shark
Speaker 1: that we left in the depths of the ocean. So
Speaker 1: it's one day, one day. I feel like there was
Speaker 1: a zombie episode. I know it's coming. Good nightmare. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we had an episode where we are dressed like zombies.
Speaker 1: We've got season four, Episode four next week. Can't stop
Speaker 1: this thing we've started. So here we go. Kids, buckle up.
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