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Speaker 1: that high school drama, Girl drama, Girl, all about them

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Speaker 1: high school queens. We'll take you for a ride in

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Speaker 1: our comic girl sharing for the drama Queens, Girl Fashion.

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Speaker 1: But you're tough, girl. You could sit with us. Girl Drama, Queens, Drama,

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Speaker 1: Queen's Drama, Queen's Drama, John mc Queen's Drama, Queens. You guys,

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Speaker 1: I love this episode. I loved it, yes, saying it

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Speaker 1: Tell him what it was joy. This one was season four,

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Speaker 1: episode three. Good news for people who love, bad news

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Speaker 1: We had Mike Caro and David Stiles write this episode,

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Speaker 1: it's like it's deja vu, truly to the first time

427
00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:50,080
Speaker 1: this happened, where I'm like, wait a second, this isn't

428
00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:52,960
Speaker 1: even about us. This is his fault. And that's the

429
00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:56,880
Speaker 1: definition of insanity, doing the same over and over over

430
00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:59,600
Speaker 1: and over and expecting a different outcome. It will never

431
00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:03,480
Speaker 1: had to in that lesson a few times with these two.

432
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:07,000
Speaker 1: Here's here's my thing though, for all of Brooks, like

433
00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:11,760
Speaker 1: you know, bluster, she's pissed. That would seem to me

434
00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:15,679
Speaker 1: like the reasonable spot where Haley would look at her

435
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:18,440
Speaker 1: friend and be like, oh, you want me to pick sides?

436
00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:23,520
Speaker 1: You're living in Rachel's house and she is incredibly problematic

437
00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:26,960
Speaker 1: to me, are you going to pick a side? Um?

438
00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:28,919
Speaker 1: And we and you know, like I have it that

439
00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:30,600
Speaker 1: in my notes at the top of the episode, and

440
00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:34,879
Speaker 1: certainly we get there, but we Brook arrives at that

441
00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:39,080
Speaker 1: spot on her own. Haley isn't like, hey, reciprocate, you

442
00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:42,800
Speaker 1: know well, which I actually think is better because yeah,

443
00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:45,000
Speaker 1: I don't think Haley is that kind of person. Also,

444
00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:48,080
Speaker 1: Haley knows Brooks not living with Rachel for ships and giggles.

445
00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:51,760
Speaker 1: Brooke doesn't have a house, so it's like, where's she

446
00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:53,880
Speaker 1: going to go? You know, she's a sixteen year old

447
00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:55,879
Speaker 1: kid who has nowhere to go. Or I guess she's

448
00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:58,680
Speaker 1: also never been as far as I can remember, she's

449
00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:01,119
Speaker 1: never been the kind of person that like, she doesn't

450
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:04,280
Speaker 1: seem to loop people in with problems and and try

451
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:11,400
Speaker 1: and triangulate. Yeah, she's very like compartmentalized with people. Why

452
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:15,040
Speaker 1: doesn't Lucas just go to her house? Seriously? Like two

453
00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:18,239
Speaker 1: Brooks point, why is he always at Peyton's house If

454
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:20,840
Speaker 1: he's trying to sort out as ship Haley is now

455
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:25,760
Speaker 1: a closer friend to Brooke, he isn't he at her house? Yeah?

456
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:31,000
Speaker 1: It's weird. It's poking the bear man, it really, it

457
00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:35,240
Speaker 1: really is. It's very interesting. But as much as I'm

458
00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:37,600
Speaker 1: having the moment of going, wait a minute, this is

459
00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:39,879
Speaker 1: all this teenage boy making a mess, why did they

460
00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:42,600
Speaker 1: keep pitting the girls against each other? I know, I

461
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:47,239
Speaker 1: know TV drama. The thing I will say that I

462
00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:50,640
Speaker 1: don't like that like, you know, all of it makes

463
00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:54,000
Speaker 1: sense to me. I'm amused by this, just realizing like

464
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:57,680
Speaker 1: it's this diption, like why are we fighting? The one

465
00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:01,680
Speaker 1: thing that irked me, and that's probably because it's meant

466
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:06,639
Speaker 1: to I don't like. And I wonder why none of

467
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:09,119
Speaker 1: the men caught it, But I don't know, maybe they

468
00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:12,680
Speaker 1: did it on purpose. I don't like a boy walking

469
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:16,680
Speaker 1: up to a girl at a party who is surrounded

470
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:20,680
Speaker 1: by a group of boys and saying she's all yours.

471
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:24,879
Speaker 1: I didn't like that. I really thought it was gross.

472
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:28,400
Speaker 1: It made me feel unsafe. It made me like even now,

473
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:31,160
Speaker 1: like if I saw a boy say that to a girl,

474
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:36,400
Speaker 1: like the lesson I would give him about like violence

475
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 1: against women and consent and women are not property. You

476
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 1: don't get to give her away like it. That like

477
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:45,720
Speaker 1: really triggered some for me. I really did not like that.

478
00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:50,359
Speaker 1: And I and maybe it's because we're adults now, and

479
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:53,240
Speaker 1: I think, like, oh, come on, like adults wrote this,

480
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:58,359
Speaker 1: don't do that. But maybe it's because it's supposed to

481
00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:02,040
Speaker 1: be a boy being gross. I don't. Yeah, I mean,

482
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:04,680
Speaker 1: if everyone knows that he's the protector, he's the guy

483
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:07,960
Speaker 1: that gets girls home safe from parties, and he just

484
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:13,960
Speaker 1: declares it to everyone, you can have her. I'm done here. Yeah,

485
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 1: I don't like it. Yeah, being trying to be in

486
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:19,760
Speaker 1: the position where don't do that. Boys, any boys listening

487
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:21,639
Speaker 1: to our show be better than that. We'll look at

488
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:24,399
Speaker 1: the different or look at the similarities between what Brooke

489
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:26,639
Speaker 1: has been saying to Lucas, let me in, let me in,

490
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 1: let me in. Yeah, and the speech that the beautiful

491
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:33,080
Speaker 1: scene that Haley has with Nathan let me in. I

492
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:35,320
Speaker 1: was thinking that I'm trying so hard not to be

493
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:38,560
Speaker 1: a psycho and have my feelings hurt. Can you just

494
00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 1: tell me what's going on? And the difference in in

495
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:49,640
Speaker 1: the way the boys respond yes, because Nathan immediately says, wait,

496
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 1: that's what you think. Because when people won't let you in,

497
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 1: when they won't tell you what's happening, but you know

498
00:28:56,120 --> 00:29:00,160
Speaker 1: something's wrong, the natural human assumption is to think, well,

499
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:03,480
Speaker 1: they won't to me because it's me. And the minute

500
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 1: Nathan realizes that Haley is personalizing his distance, his pain,

501
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 1: his confusion, he shuts it down and that was you, guys,

502
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:16,520
Speaker 1: such a such a good job in that scene. He's

503
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:19,560
Speaker 1: not playing games with her, He's totally there in present

504
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:23,479
Speaker 1: with her, and I loved that. I I don't know

505
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 1: why he's not sharing with her. I guess they're both

506
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 1: keeping secrets, but I don't know why he's not sharing

507
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:31,080
Speaker 1: with her all of this trauma that he's going through.

508
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 1: I did not like the way he walked up to

509
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 1: Rachel at that party that listen. Was there like a

510
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 1: little one in you because you guys played husband and wife,

511
00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:43,240
Speaker 1: you know whatever, was there a little thing in you

512
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 1: that that um subconsciously bubbles up when you see something

513
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 1: like that, Like do you feel jealous in real life?

514
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 1: I know I get territorial over some people. Yeah, yeah,

515
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 1: I think. I mean on the show, I do. I

516
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 1: never felt that way in real life, but when I

517
00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:00,080
Speaker 1: when I'm watching, I'm so invested in these characters. That

518
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 1: was like, excuse me, why are you leaning up against

519
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 1: a wall right behind Rachel with your arm up and

520
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:09,520
Speaker 1: like giving her the impression that you're I mean, I

521
00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 1: get it was for a shot, Yeah, let's justify it,

522
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:17,959
Speaker 1: but it was on purpose. It was sexy. It was

523
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:22,080
Speaker 1: all three of us went like juked back from the

524
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 1: screen a little bit before. Absolutely not, And I think

525
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 1: I do think that was that feels like a conscious

526
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:36,680
Speaker 1: choice on the part of like the director and the

527
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 1: actors in the scene to go, we've got to we've

528
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:45,520
Speaker 1: got to do some things that will create confusion for Rachel.

529
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 1: But like, whoa, it wasn't the right move though I

530
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:51,880
Speaker 1: thought that. I agree, it was sexy, and it was

531
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:53,840
Speaker 1: it was a misdirect, but it was so out of

532
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 1: character for Nathan. I mean, yeah, I don't know though,

533
00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:00,320
Speaker 1: I don't know that it's out of character because Nathan

534
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:04,560
Speaker 1: Scott is still Dance Scott's son, like he's not an angel,

535
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 1: and I would like exploring that storyline. If we were

536
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 1: exploring that storyline of him growing and dealing with the

537
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 1: fact that he's married but still attracted to other girls

538
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:16,720
Speaker 1: and doesn't know how to handle it, that's a that's

539
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:20,240
Speaker 1: something to explore. Yeah, but my only fear their joy

540
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 1: and I get it, And that's such a tendency of

541
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:24,280
Speaker 1: mine to be like, well, hold on, what are we

542
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:27,840
Speaker 1: really saying? People do dumb all the time they do.

543
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 1: I think we have to, like sometimes we want to justify,

544
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:35,080
Speaker 1: like why someone's doing something. Sometimes people just do things

545
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:39,560
Speaker 1: they don't even realize they're doing it, Like he he

546
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 1: might have thought I'm gonna come intimidate her a little

547
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 1: bit and be like hey, like and stand over her

548
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 1: and like whatever. And then to us as girls were like, whoa,

549
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:54,000
Speaker 1: that's hot. What are you doing? You know, like you

550
00:31:54,040 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 1: have any idea liket? Yeah, we're like accident, like, sir,

551
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 1: put those arms away, Like make sense to you. It's

552
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:08,560
Speaker 1: street Car named Desire, right, he's Stanley, Yes. Where it's

553
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:13,560
Speaker 1: like you're coming into my world here. You're you're pretending

554
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 1: to be nice with like my woman and all my

555
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 1: woman's friends and stuff, and then you're like flirting with

556
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 1: me and like there's a weird energy here. It's a

557
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 1: very Tennessee Williams vibe. Like James Lafferty is a Tennessee

558
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:28,120
Speaker 1: Williams actor. He would be so good in any one

559
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 1: of those shows. I mean, I feel like that shot

560
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:33,480
Speaker 1: actually was from either street Car or a cat on

561
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:39,240
Speaker 1: the huntin roof or something. Haven't we seen that shot before? Yeah,

562
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 1: it's it's being salacious without him laying a hand on her.

563
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:49,960
Speaker 1: He doesn't touch her. Yeah, it feels like a power move,

564
00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 1: which probably is why it flustered us all in the

565
00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 1: second or just or are we just all attracted to people?

566
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 1: I don't know, but what I will say is interesting

567
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 1: to think about it in the context of the storyline

568
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:11,960
Speaker 1: for Nathan, like how well he does to let Haley in,

569
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:18,080
Speaker 1: how how much he really is trying to process all

570
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 1: of this, even even saying to Haley about Rachel, like

571
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 1: I think she's got some trauma, not that it's our problem,

572
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 1: you know. I felt like the kind of energy of

573
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 1: that scene. I loved the the sweet, disarmed friendship of

574
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 1: Nathan and Peyton in this episode. I loved seeing him

575
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:41,960
Speaker 1: at that time when you came over and said you're

576
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 1: over here by yourself. That used to be our signal.

577
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 1: I like platonic Peyton, and I like that her and

578
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:55,640
Speaker 1: Nathan are in this space. Here's what troubled me in

579
00:33:55,680 --> 00:34:00,959
Speaker 1: this episode. Why couldn't I match that will of platonic

580
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 1: with the actor playing my hot brother. I'm so glad

581
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:08,399
Speaker 1: we're getting here. I was burying the lead. I didn't

582
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:10,239
Speaker 1: want to talk about Peyton because this is like so

583
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:12,439
Speaker 1: exciting and so juicy, and I was like, we gotta

584
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 1: save it for the second happen. I'm just blushing the

585
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:18,759
Speaker 1: whole time. Matt bar is talking to me, and I'm like, look,

586
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:20,560
Speaker 1: I can do a scene with Nathan where I'm like,

587
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:23,719
Speaker 1: come on, buddy, I can do scenes with Lucas where

588
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:33,839
Speaker 1: I'm like, buddy, buddy, buddy. Okay. We gotta say the thing.

589
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 1: Though we had been working with all these boys for

590
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 1: three and a half years. The hot wears off. It

591
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:44,880
Speaker 1: wears off fast, it does. Like to say it, but

592
00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 1: everything becomes relative really quickly. Like if Giselle was your neighbor,

593
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:54,719
Speaker 1: you would stop gawking at her eventually, you know, I

594
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:56,400
Speaker 1: mean maybe not her, but you know what I'm saying,

595
00:34:56,440 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 1: like popcorn every day, Like like James and Chad and

596
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 1: all the boys on the basketball team, Like they got

597
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 1: to just be these goober boys that we made fun

598
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:08,920
Speaker 1: of and we'd be like, why are you doing that?

599
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,880
Speaker 1: Like why are you playing those video games? We did

600
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 1: them like tons of dumb ship. Remember when they did

601
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:17,400
Speaker 1: each other to lay on that ant hill, Oh my god,

602
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 1: like come on those ding dongs, And like I say

603
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:24,840
Speaker 1: it with love, we loved them, but like they became

604
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 1: just like you gross boys. Matt Bar had been around

605
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:34,080
Speaker 1: for forty eight hours. Nobody was used to him, and

606
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 1: he stood really. Look, Derek was supposed to be creepy.

607
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 1: Matt Bar stood so close to you. I was I

608
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:43,719
Speaker 1: was blushing. I wasn't even in the scene, and I

609
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 1: was like, I am, I am sweating. I don't know

610
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 1: how like the loveliest person. He's the best guy. He

611
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 1: was like just he was really doing such a nice

612
00:35:57,239 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 1: job of being so friendly and respectful and interested, and

613
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:08,840
Speaker 1: yet there was this slow hint of danger. And the

614
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:12,440
Speaker 1: danger maybe is what we were attracted to. A guy

615
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:14,840
Speaker 1: who's really nice and respectful but also feels maybe a

616
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 1: little dangerous, So you know, that's fun. Um So I

617
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:21,399
Speaker 1: think that's probably what the energy was that we were like, oh,

618
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:23,920
Speaker 1: this is kind of attractive, but it turned out to

619
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 1: be it's psychotic and not so embarrassed. And that's part

620
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 1: of the interesting thing, right, is when you're playing these misdirects,

621
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 1: like Matt finds out he's going to have to be

622
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 1: the nightmare of Peyton's life, not actually her brother, you know,

623
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 1: this whole creepy thing, but you have to play the

624
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:51,399
Speaker 1: brother before the turn you to it. Yeah, like I

625
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:55,719
Speaker 1: you know, my storyline in this episode, Brooke is not

626
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:59,440
Speaker 1: pregnant but has to behave like she is. You know,

627
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 1: I had to think, like, oh my god, Brooke is

628
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 1: going to have Lucas's baby. Everything is going to be awful.

629
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:08,400
Speaker 1: I had to go there so that we'd be surprised

630
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 1: when we found out it was Haley, Like you did

631
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:14,839
Speaker 1: absolutely oh they wanted but you were just being a

632
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 1: good friend. I thought you were just like, oh, of course,

633
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 1: but but fully like they were like, everyone has to

634
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:25,759
Speaker 1: really think you're pregnant. So so I had to play it. Yeah,

635
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:28,279
Speaker 1: of course, you know, it's Brooks being a good friend

636
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:32,279
Speaker 1: and is keeping Haley's secret. But as an actor, I

637
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:35,400
Speaker 1: was like, I have to pick moments where I'm going

638
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 1: to play the scene like I am so that the

639
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 1: audience is really like I don't want anybody to be

640
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:47,080
Speaker 1: able to wonder, and and that's like it's a weird

641
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:48,799
Speaker 1: thing to have. That's like one of the weird things

642
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 1: about our jobs, you know. Yeah, I mean I don't know.

643
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:57,920
Speaker 1: I we all know where the Psycho Derek of it

644
00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 1: is going, and it's it's so dark that I'm frankly

645
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:06,320
Speaker 1: a little bit nervous to get there. I'm just enjoying

646
00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:09,719
Speaker 1: your commitment to Peyton being happy for at least like

647
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 1: five or the drama. It's just like it's not gonna

648
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 1: get me down. No, Like Brooke is just literally telling

649
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:19,880
Speaker 1: Peyton like, I hope you die in a fire, and

650
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 1: Peyton's like, anyway, have you met my hot brother? Just smiled.

651
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 1: I really loved that too. I loved the like, I mean, god,

652
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 1: we're so angry at each other, but all of our

653
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 1: banter is hilarious, so good. Everything in this episode between

654
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 1: us is so funny. You know your I love you

655
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 1: kill people? Well, then I love you Brooke. Oh god,

656
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 1: I loved that you were. I love watching you be

657
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:57,799
Speaker 1: happy and vulnerable and excited and just ready for a

658
00:38:57,800 --> 00:39:00,520
Speaker 1: new chapter in life. It's so depressed thing that it's

659
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:03,359
Speaker 1: like every single thing that that comes into Peyton's life

660
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:07,359
Speaker 1: turns out to be a big wet blanket there. I mean,

661
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:09,839
Speaker 1: Peyton took him on the death walk of Tree Hill.

662
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:12,920
Speaker 1: That's how you know she's like invested where she's like,

663
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:14,799
Speaker 1: do you want to see my friends almost died last week?

664
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 1: And you want to see my mom is buried? And

665
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:17,560
Speaker 1: you want to see my other mom is buried? And

666
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:20,920
Speaker 1: do you want to see Like it's so desperate for

667
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 1: someone close, someone to know her and see her, And

668
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:28,759
Speaker 1: it just would have been better if he wasn't as

669
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 1: handsome because Peyton's enthusiasm reads as very like Game of

670
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:37,719
Speaker 1: Thrones to me. Haven't you guys ever had a hot

671
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:44,399
Speaker 1: family member though? No, you know, no if you met

672
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 1: my relitives, no, I'm sure listen. If any of you

673
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 1: are listening, you're gorgeous. But I do have not wanted

674
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 1: to kiss, you know, like second cousins or people that

675
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:56,920
Speaker 1: you've met later that are and you're like, wow, this

676
00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:59,879
Speaker 1: is too bad. Girl. I turned eighteen and I left

677
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:04,359
Speaker 1: Rginia and there was just no turning back. So I

678
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:09,239
Speaker 1: bet I have hot family members out there. Uh, but no,

679
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:13,440
Speaker 1: that's so funny. I mean you have set the boundary.

680
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:17,400
Speaker 1: But I've totally had that moment. Really. Yeah, it's like

681
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:19,880
Speaker 1: what you can't help if you're attracted to somebody that's

682
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:21,840
Speaker 1: just your body is just like you're suddenly feeling like,

683
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:23,400
Speaker 1: oh my god, I'm attracted to this person. Then you've

684
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:25,959
Speaker 1: got to be like, well, shutting that down right now,

685
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 1: because because you're related and you're really attracted to yourself.

686
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:35,439
Speaker 1: But it's you're like, you're looking just like me. Oh

687
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:39,280
Speaker 1: it's not, it's but it's not with people that you like, grew,

688
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 1: that you've known the whole time. No, it's like someone

689
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 1: that you meet later who's like a second or third

690
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:46,399
Speaker 1: cousin or like a once removed kind of a thing.

691
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:49,000
Speaker 1: And you know, I don't know, I can't believe you've

692
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:51,359
Speaker 1: never had that experience. Well I have. I found out

693
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 1: that my great great grandfather moved to Washington State after

694
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 1: his wife died, and I went on this like mad

695
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:01,040
Speaker 1: spiral where I was like, oh, Jeff and related like

696
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 1: I just feel like, yeah, I was just like, wait

697
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:06,880
Speaker 1: of horrifying. Yeah. Yeah, that's the kind of ship that

698
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:08,799
Speaker 1: keeps you up at night and makes you thankful for

699
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 1: the Internet because we're not um thank god, but no

700
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:21,799
Speaker 1: is complicated. Yeah, yeah, that would be really hard. I

701
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 1: feel like there have been Oh yeah, I'm going I

702
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 1: feel like there's a movie that I loved that's about this. Yeah.

703
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:33,960
Speaker 1: Clueless Share Share is in love with her stepbrother stepbrother

704
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 1: very close, that's closer than a cousin, but there's no

705
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 1: there's no blood. It's like it's like as a as

706
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 1: a teenager, her dad married a woman who had a

707
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:50,440
Speaker 1: son in college. So that's when they meet in Clueless

708
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:52,800
Speaker 1: and she's like, oh my god, I love Josh, Which

709
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:56,279
Speaker 1: did I love Josh we're all in love with Paul,

710
00:41:56,760 --> 00:42:00,719
Speaker 1: so like, no one is surprised, but that hilarious in

711
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 1: a movie. I don't I don't think, I jo I

712
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:05,760
Speaker 1: don't think I could. I figured it out. I figured

713
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:07,719
Speaker 1: out my No, you can't get over it, of course not.

714
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:11,360
Speaker 1: My mom had an uncle Paul, and so he was

715
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:14,720
Speaker 1: my second uncle, great uncle, what do you call those?

716
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 1: And he had a ponytail and a beard, and he

717
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 1: like worked for the government, and he had this like

718
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:23,319
Speaker 1: hippie wife, Tanya, and he was hot and he was

719
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:26,719
Speaker 1: like he was like the cool liberal uncle at Christmas

720
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:29,120
Speaker 1: and Thanksgiving and stuff, and I just thought he was

721
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:32,360
Speaker 1: They traveled the world. I think they had a sitar

722
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:37,600
Speaker 1: player at their wedding or something. Cool. Yeah, uncle Pop,

723
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:40,000
Speaker 1: I get it, I get it, I get it. Handsome

724
00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:45,759
Speaker 1: relative and Matt bar just making me look like I know.

725
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 1: And we saw him recently on our tour and he's

726
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:51,400
Speaker 1: still just handsome as ever and so kind and lovely.

727
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:55,359
Speaker 1: It's a sweet, great person and still working a lot.

728
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 1: And we're lucky that we got him on the shop.

729
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 1: Was so fun to have him tour with us. Well, yeah,

730
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 1: just because we haven't hear about his work and yeah,

731
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 1: to hear about his work and to meet his fiancee,

732
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 1: and like, it was just so lovely and it's such

733
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:15,439
Speaker 1: a wild thing. You know, we're I know, we're doing

734
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:21,879
Speaker 1: those um tour stops, his bonus episodes for y'all. But ah, Unfortunately,

735
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:24,480
Speaker 1: if you if you got to do the video stream,

736
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:26,640
Speaker 1: you didn't get to see Matt because he wasn't he

737
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 1: wasn't there that night. But my god, it was so

738
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 1: interesting to hear about the way people started really responding

739
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 1: to him in public after that story. It's so sad.

740
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:44,840
Speaker 1: It breaks my heart for him because him in public,

741
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 1: I love his game for it. Though he doesn't it

742
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:56,280
Speaker 1: doesn't really bother him. He's like, hey, Manny, I'm nervous

743
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 1: to watch this unfold with Peyton. Though it's a it's

744
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:01,719
Speaker 1: a storyline I was on set for. I heard about it.

745
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:04,440
Speaker 1: I remember reading it in the script and being like, well,

746
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:08,560
Speaker 1: that's gonna be really insane, but okay, but you know

747
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:12,280
Speaker 1: you just kind of I missed it. So I'm yeah,

748
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:16,160
Speaker 1: I'm excited to see your work, but I'm also not

749
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:18,400
Speaker 1: excited about this. You know. I was always hoping for

750
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 1: redemption for him, because he does fit the group very well.

751
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 1: Because the scene he has with Mouth was one of

752
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 1: my favorite of the episode where Mouth gives him the

753
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:31,040
Speaker 1: whole new guy thing and he just plays. He plays

754
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:33,080
Speaker 1: the straight man in a way that like James does

755
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:37,719
Speaker 1: you know? And I love that Lee got the opportunity

756
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:43,080
Speaker 1: to go balls out this episode. He loved it. Lee

757
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:47,560
Speaker 1: is so good in this episode and his his physical

758
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 1: comedy his like his drunk comedy. Lucas says, what did

759
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:56,440
Speaker 1: he yell at Luca's when he sat down? And what

760
00:44:56,560 --> 00:45:03,919
Speaker 1: is it like to me? What the mouth? I tell

761
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 1: my God? And then Lucas goes, how many of those

762
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:12,720
Speaker 1: have you had? And he goes, including this one out?

763
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:16,840
Speaker 1: He is the best. I love that he got to

764
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:20,399
Speaker 1: do that. And Gi was back in this episode. Yes

765
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 1: you got to see her for a minute. I wish

766
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:24,319
Speaker 1: they would give her something else to say at this

767
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:27,840
Speaker 1: obsession with like the sweet innocent girl being secretly naughty

768
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 1: is really gross. The that's the deal. Teen year old

769
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 1: girl says she's aroused, Okay, it's I would like there

770
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:40,840
Speaker 1: to be a line. Yeah, that's pretty gross. It's but

771
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:43,440
Speaker 1: we're fine. Seeing her sweet face makes me happy and

772
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:47,399
Speaker 1: I'm really looking forward to seeing her storyline develops. Yeah.

773
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 1: I just love what she's done with her career. You know,

774
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 1: like she starts off being like the one line singer

775
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:55,320
Speaker 1: at fourteen years old on this you know, big ensemble

776
00:45:55,440 --> 00:46:00,200
Speaker 1: thing and then becomes this goddess on yellows we need

777
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:03,040
Speaker 1: to be yellow Stone. Have you seen her lately with

778
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:05,960
Speaker 1: this girl? I saw her on the red carpet the

779
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:08,400
Speaker 1: other day with like like a black silk dress with

780
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:10,560
Speaker 1: like some sheer panels in it, and I was like,

781
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 1: get it, get it. Looks amazing. She's so such a

782
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 1: still such a total sweetheart too. I just love her.

783
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:24,719
Speaker 1: Um what else, well, well, listen, Sophia called it in

784
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:27,359
Speaker 1: the middle of the episode where she was like, everyone's

785
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:33,320
Speaker 1: so cranky and so we laughed so hard. This episode

786
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:38,319
Speaker 1: is true. Everyone is just cranky, cranky. I love a

787
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:44,080
Speaker 1: little cranky Rachel and Haley. Haley's cranky. Uh, oh my god,

788
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:46,920
Speaker 1: Brooke is cranky. Peyton's the only one who's not cranky

789
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:51,000
Speaker 1: for the first time. Maybe that's why I loved this episode.

790
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:58,880
Speaker 1: I mean, Peyton's always like slightly cranky, deep down, deep down. Yeah,

791
00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 1: but it is nice. It's nice to see you getting

792
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:09,960
Speaker 1: to be happy. And I don't know, it's it feels refreshing.

793
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 1: It makes me sad knowing where it's going. Well, do

794
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 1: you think he is only happy when everyone else is miserable? Like,

795
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 1: do you feel like she's like, yes, it's your turn, bitches.

796
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 1: You guys can do it now. Finally, yeah, well, what's

797
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:28,480
Speaker 1: where is it going? What's happening in the next episode?

798
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 1: Do we have a small little preview. I mean, we've

799
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:39,680
Speaker 1: seen Derek's Wall of weird. Have you guys had anyone

800
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:41,920
Speaker 1: in your life that you find out, like after the

801
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:48,759
Speaker 1: fact is secretly a total creeper? Yeah? A couple. Really. Yeah,

802
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:50,439
Speaker 1: every once in a while you find out that someone

803
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:54,040
Speaker 1: that you think is super awesome is also like unhinged,

804
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:58,840
Speaker 1: and you're just like, oh cool, I'm really glad I

805
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:06,720
Speaker 1: let you into my room. Hum and my house and um.

806
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:10,040
Speaker 1: Lesson for the kids is, don't have a webcam not

807
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:15,480
Speaker 1: facing your bed. It's just a no, huge, huge no.

808
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:19,959
Speaker 1: It's a no, guys, please don't. Okay. So, so Lucas,

809
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:23,279
Speaker 1: So what we're reading from our fabulous producers is that

810
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:25,800
Speaker 1: next episode, Lucas is going to start to notice how

811
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:31,400
Speaker 1: close Peyton and her brother are gadding, which again is

812
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:35,239
Speaker 1: just so weird um, and we saw a little bit

813
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:37,200
Speaker 1: of that, you know, like she brings Lucas is her

814
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 1: protection in the very first scene, and he's pointing out like, oh,

815
00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:45,080
Speaker 1: you guys are totally the same. You're totally the same.

816
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:48,920
Speaker 1: And I guess that's cued upuntil the point. But yeah,

817
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:52,080
Speaker 1: they're really going for it right away. I think they

818
00:48:52,080 --> 00:49:01,360
Speaker 1: were going to keep him around for much longer. We

819
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:05,480
Speaker 1: have a question. Let's answer some questions. Yeah, okay, is

820
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:08,680
Speaker 1: that Bertie? Yeah? Has Grant? They asked if Grant or

821
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:12,440
Speaker 1: jeff have seen the show? Seen One Tree Home. I

822
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 1: feel like we answer this all the time. Yeah, we do. Um, well, Bertie, no, Uh.

823
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:24,000
Speaker 1: There is a big running joke around here at Drama

824
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:28,359
Speaker 1: Queens that neither my husband nor Hillary's husband has seen

825
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 1: a single episode of our show, and so we've been

826
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:34,759
Speaker 1: we've been sort of joking, and now we think maybe

827
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:37,719
Speaker 1: it would be hilarious if we started making Grant and

828
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:41,720
Speaker 1: Jeffrey watch it and they can do their own podcast.

829
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:45,440
Speaker 1: Tell us what you think. I don't know a bit

830
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:50,280
Speaker 1: of rivalry in our house because Jeff played I think

831
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:55,600
Speaker 1: Ben Mackenzie's dad in prison on the C like no,

832
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:58,479
Speaker 1: on the O C. From I don't know a couple

833
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:02,960
Speaker 1: of I don't know the specifics. I just know that

834
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:07,120
Speaker 1: there are pictures flown around of him in a jumpsuit

835
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:12,960
Speaker 1: on the Let's See Who he Is? Show? And so

836
00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:18,880
Speaker 1: maybe that rivalry is real. Maybe it has infiltrated itself

837
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:25,439
Speaker 1: into my domestic sphere. Jeffrey as Joe Zakowski. Who's Joe

838
00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:30,040
Speaker 1: Zikowski on the Huh? I don't know. Maybe there's a

839
00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:32,759
Speaker 1: fan that can fill me in as his wife, as

840
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:37,239
Speaker 1: his partner of thirteen years. I don't know. Well, all

841
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:39,760
Speaker 1: I'm hearing is that you've never seen him on it either,

842
00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:42,799
Speaker 1: which feels fair. He's got a sick beard. Hold on,

843
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:47,200
Speaker 1: I'm finding pictures. His hair's all dark. I would dated

844
00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:50,680
Speaker 1: updated actors, and I don't like watching their I don't

845
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Speaker 1: like them watching my work, and it feels a little

846
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:57,680
Speaker 1: uncomfortable watching their's because it just is like, unless it's

847
00:50:57,719 --> 00:51:00,560
Speaker 1: something that, look at this, look at that. Wait, they're

848
00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:05,319
Speaker 1: pulling it up on the screen right now. Amazing. Who

849
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:08,960
Speaker 1: is Sandy? Who's the character Sandy on the O C all.

850
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:14,200
Speaker 1: The description I'm seeing is Sandy visited Joe Zakowski in prison.

851
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:19,920
Speaker 1: I mean his prison beard is really Yeah, I'd kissed

852
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:23,560
Speaker 1: that guy for sure. Listen, I'll watch his episodes of

853
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:26,879
Speaker 1: The o C if he watches my episodes and one

854
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Speaker 1: real it significantly. Let's work on Yeah. Um, oh it's

855
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:41,200
Speaker 1: Adam Brody's dad. Oh that Sandy is Adam Brody's dad.

856
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:45,960
Speaker 1: So I guess Peter Gallagher was going to see Jeff.

857
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:51,840
Speaker 1: I mean, what a bad guy. Anyway, Anyway, we have

858
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:58,759
Speaker 1: another question, umu Aksha, I probably said that wrong. A

859
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:02,279
Speaker 1: consha is asking sides friendships. What continues to bring you

860
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:07,800
Speaker 1: joy from the One Tree Hill experience? Well, this show does, certainly,

861
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:14,000
Speaker 1: But I guess that's part of the friendship h question. Um,

862
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:16,080
Speaker 1: I guess it's the interaction with the fans, right, the

863
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:19,239
Speaker 1: people that still come up and tell us like what

864
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:21,640
Speaker 1: an impact the show made, or something that our character

865
00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:24,479
Speaker 1: did or went through that mirrored something they were going

866
00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:27,719
Speaker 1: through and helped them process it, or even just was

867
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:31,839
Speaker 1: a place of comfort for them to go h. Consistently,

868
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:34,640
Speaker 1: those those are great stories. I always love to hear that.

869
00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:37,080
Speaker 1: It makes me happy to know that this show is

870
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:40,600
Speaker 1: continuing to have that kind of an impact. I mean,

871
00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:44,360
Speaker 1: as I have a toddler leaning on me, really pissed.

872
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:47,840
Speaker 1: I won't buire another game on the eye had I

873
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:50,319
Speaker 1: like that. I've got a record of six years where

874
00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:53,120
Speaker 1: I was cool. Goddamn it. I was cool and the

875
00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:56,520
Speaker 1: kids like like every parent on the planets, like I

876
00:52:56,600 --> 00:52:59,480
Speaker 1: was cool once and I had fun once and neat

877
00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:01,880
Speaker 1: clothes in trove a cloth car and it was before

878
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:05,200
Speaker 1: you guys were around. And you may not believe me,

879
00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:09,520
Speaker 1: but I'm awesome and I have I have a over

880
00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:11,840
Speaker 1: a hundred episodes that I can make these old sunk

881
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:15,680
Speaker 1: asses sit down and watch. Hey, I was George, That's right,

882
00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:19,280
Speaker 1: I was cool. That's so funny. Hillary, Maria somebody. Maria

883
00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:21,000
Speaker 1: was with me the other day when somebody came up

884
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:22,680
Speaker 1: and they were like, I love johin Agents of Shields,

885
00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:24,359
Speaker 1: and I said, oh, thank you so much. They walked

886
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:26,760
Speaker 1: away and she just looked at me like a fan

887
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:30,880
Speaker 1: and was like, you were on Agents of Shields. Yeah.

888
00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:35,440
Speaker 1: She's like, isn't that Marvel, Yes it is, And she

889
00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:39,600
Speaker 1: just stared at me. I was like, what, He's like, cool.

890
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:42,919
Speaker 1: It's like, go go clean your room now. Yeah, wash

891
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:47,000
Speaker 1: those dishes, kid, that's right, just because I'm cool. That

892
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:50,400
Speaker 1: is so Listen, You've got a storage locker full of

893
00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:54,680
Speaker 1: stuff that you like from the od AG experience. That's right, Yeah,

894
00:53:54,800 --> 00:54:01,440
Speaker 1: I mean, gosh, I think now it is really this.

895
00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:05,480
Speaker 1: It's being able to go back and re experience it.

896
00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:08,040
Speaker 1: You know. We I think we talked maybe last week

897
00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:10,640
Speaker 1: or the week before about how, you know, by this

898
00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:13,640
Speaker 1: point in the show, like we were getting made fun

899
00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:16,920
Speaker 1: of on the soup and like it was it was

900
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:20,719
Speaker 1: weird because we were away, like we were gone. We

901
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:25,000
Speaker 1: didn't really know anything about what was happening out in

902
00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:27,560
Speaker 1: the world or how we were perceived. We were just

903
00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:32,239
Speaker 1: kind of locked up in Wilmington's together and like you know,

904
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:36,160
Speaker 1: hearing that sometimes people were being mean and we were

905
00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:38,720
Speaker 1: all going through pretty confusing things in our personal lives,

906
00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:43,120
Speaker 1: and it it added, i think, to the confusion to

907
00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:47,560
Speaker 1: be isolated. So there's something really amazing about being able

908
00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:52,839
Speaker 1: to go back and see what it really was together

909
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:57,000
Speaker 1: and we're home and we're like, we understand where we

910
00:54:57,080 --> 00:54:59,040
Speaker 1: stand in the world in a different way than we

911
00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:02,759
Speaker 1: did when we were when we were kids, and I'm

912
00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:05,400
Speaker 1: really thankful for that. You know. Of course, it's cool

913
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:08,360
Speaker 1: when we go to the conventions and hear the stories

914
00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:10,799
Speaker 1: and you know, we meet God I mean, we met

915
00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:15,759
Speaker 1: so many families on our tour. You know that that

916
00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:18,480
Speaker 1: young girl we met, that fourteen year old girl whose

917
00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:20,759
Speaker 1: mom was like, this is Sophia And I was like,

918
00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:23,880
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, what you know? Are you for real? Like

919
00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:27,760
Speaker 1: that's that's so cool, and and they're watching the show together,

920
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:32,040
Speaker 1: like that's all amazing. That is stuff. I was more

921
00:55:32,080 --> 00:55:36,880
Speaker 1: accustomed to the specialness of those interactions. Being able to

922
00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:42,200
Speaker 1: do this with you guys, for us as individuals has

923
00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:46,120
Speaker 1: been just like the coolest gift because it it really

924
00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:49,520
Speaker 1: does feel like we get to own this thing we

925
00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:52,239
Speaker 1: made in a way that we didn't before. Now I

926
00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:55,000
Speaker 1: understand why the people who come up to us come

927
00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:57,759
Speaker 1: up to us. Now I understand why we might have

928
00:55:57,800 --> 00:56:00,440
Speaker 1: made such an impact on someone's life for twenty years

929
00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:03,640
Speaker 1: that you know their kids are named Sophia or Joy

930
00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:07,200
Speaker 1: or peyton Brook. Like I get it in a way

931
00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:09,920
Speaker 1: that I used to be flattered, and now I understand

932
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:15,800
Speaker 1: and that feels really special. Yes, I totally agree. Well, guys,

933
00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:19,400
Speaker 1: thank you for joining us for this great episode. We

934
00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:22,520
Speaker 1: had so much fun. Um and next week it's going

935
00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:27,400
Speaker 1: to get real Harry real Dicey, So we'll get into that.

936
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:31,879
Speaker 1: We spinning a wheel. What are we doing? Oh shoot, yeah,

937
00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:36,759
Speaker 1: let's spen aweel, we did a wheel? I forgot, give

938
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Speaker 1: me the wheel? What do we got? Most likely? Too?

939
00:56:45,560 --> 00:56:53,360
Speaker 1: Most likely to survive a zombie apocalypse? I mean, Hilary,

940
00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:56,480
Speaker 1: I think it's you. Yeah, I feel like it is.

941
00:56:56,840 --> 00:56:59,120
Speaker 1: I feel like you have the most experience in that world.

942
00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:01,600
Speaker 1: Let me just tell you. When the pandemic hit and

943
00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:04,200
Speaker 1: everyone was freaking out about toilet paper, guess who didn't

944
00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:08,920
Speaker 1: have that problem Because I am I got everything. I

945
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:13,800
Speaker 1: got water filtration systems. You know, I grew up with preppers,

946
00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:18,160
Speaker 1: and so you're prepped. I'm so prepped. But who on

947
00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:22,040
Speaker 1: the show? What character on the show is ready to handle?

948
00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:25,000
Speaker 1: That's good? I mean Deb? I feel like Deb is

949
00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:29,720
Speaker 1: a real strong for that. Yes, Deb could like cauterize

950
00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:33,200
Speaker 1: a wound, you know, like she's not afraid to do

951
00:57:33,240 --> 00:57:38,120
Speaker 1: the gross stuff. Yeah. But also Dan is like a cockroach,

952
00:57:38,280 --> 00:57:42,320
Speaker 1: like he can't kill him. The problem in the zombie

953
00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:45,720
Speaker 1: apocalypse is that you develop relationships with people and then

954
00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:48,720
Speaker 1: you can't put a spike in their head when they turn.

955
00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:52,320
Speaker 1: And I feel like Dan and Deb wouldn't have that problem,

956
00:57:52,920 --> 00:57:58,200
Speaker 1: Like they're like, oh, Nathan, you turned oops, you know

957
00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:06,400
Speaker 1: we're good. Yeah, that's funny. Yeah, sweet sop. He's like,

958
00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:09,000
Speaker 1: I don't know how I feel about that, Mike, No,

959
00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:13,680
Speaker 1: I'm I'm digging it. I'm envisioning we never as many

960
00:58:13,720 --> 00:58:16,520
Speaker 1: times as we jumped the shark. That is one shark

961
00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:18,680
Speaker 1: that we left in the depths of the ocean. So

962
00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:22,960
Speaker 1: it's one day, one day. I feel like there was

963
00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:27,680
Speaker 1: a zombie episode. I know it's coming. Good nightmare. Yeah,

964
00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:30,160
Speaker 1: we had an episode where we are dressed like zombies.

965
00:58:30,360 --> 00:58:33,920
Speaker 1: We've got season four, Episode four next week. Can't stop

966
00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:38,040
Speaker 1: this thing we've started. So here we go. Kids, buckle up.

967
00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:42,600
Speaker 1: Can we see you next week? Bye soon? Hey, thanks

968
00:58:42,600 --> 00:58:45,040
Speaker 1: for listening. Don't forget to leave us a review. You

969
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