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Speaker 1: The volume What Is Going On? Three and our podcast

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Speaker 1: Monday Night. I just I feel like this is a Sunday.

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Speaker 1: I've been watching football for the last six hours. Little

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Speaker 1: Brown's Raiders, then a little Minnesota Chicago. I'll be honest,

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Speaker 1: if I hadn't watched those games, my life might be

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Speaker 1: better off. Was not great football for for six hours.

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Speaker 1: But I do this for you, any of this for myself?

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Speaker 1: What else was I gonna do? Uh, we'll dive into

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Speaker 1: those games. Some thoughts on obviously everything that's going on

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Speaker 1: with the Ravens and the controversy there. Watched that game.

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers should win the m v P. Well the

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Speaker 1: media vote for him. I don't know. I would Dan Campbell,

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Speaker 1: the Lions refuse to give up. Uh, they don't care

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Speaker 1: about the number one pick, just playing their ass off

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Speaker 1: beat Clint Kingsbury. Some some things I read about Urban

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Speaker 1: breaking news today, talked about Chris Godwin towards a c L.

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Speaker 1: Daniel Jones out for the season. UM. And then of

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Speaker 1: course the Middlecoff mailbag at John Middlecoff is the Instagram.

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Speaker 1: I'll use a couple today. I'm gonna use a bunch

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Speaker 1: for uh for the podcast at the end of the week. Christmas,

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Speaker 1: Merry Christmas. UH. And yeah, I guess it's right around

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Speaker 1: the corner. I guess I'll talk to you about Christmas Eve.

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Speaker 1: But big week, you know, big week. We got more football.

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Speaker 1: I'm recording this Monday night. We got two football games tomorrow,

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Speaker 1: we got the Eagles, the football team, we have Seattle,

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Speaker 1: the Rams. Just just bizarre times. And I'm gonna start there.

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Speaker 1: Let's face it, I'm not taking anything away from a

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Speaker 1: win or a loss. But once you start taking ten

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Speaker 1: twenty players coaches away, it's pretty outrageous. Like listen the Browns,

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Speaker 1: if you watched them all year, they've been off. Baker

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Speaker 1: they haven't looked like a playoff team in weeks. What

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Speaker 1: had Baker, Mayfield and Stefanski. Maybe maybe not. But when

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Speaker 1: you're starting quarterback is at home, asymptomatic, healthy, tweeting about

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Speaker 1: the game. Who could play? But he can't get two

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Speaker 1: negative tests in twenty four hours, I can't even keep

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Speaker 1: up with the rules. Like this is what we're talking

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Speaker 1: about right now? Their their quarterback was on his couch

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Speaker 1: tweeting while their head coach was in the basement against

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Speaker 1: a team who whose coach got fired because of an

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Speaker 1: investigation for another team. Obviously, multiple players, one gotten major trouble,

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Speaker 1: another was showing a bunch of machine guns. He got it.

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Speaker 1: Just that game the Brown Raiders just a batshit crazy game.

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Speaker 1: When you just factor in everything, it really is, you know,

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Speaker 1: I see it all the time about Derek and I

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Speaker 1: a long time, they have seen some crazy things over

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Speaker 1: the years. Same with the Browns. But the stuff with

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Speaker 1: the Browns, especially this year, like with the COVID stuff

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Speaker 1: back years the Browns have had a game without their

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Speaker 1: also shows you like that game. Obviously, the Browns are

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Speaker 1: not making the playoffs. Held the Ravens might not make

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Speaker 1: the playoffs, and they're eight and six, But the Browns

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Speaker 1: put themselves in this position that they really did, losing

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Speaker 1: games earlier in the season, not playing well. Baker didn't

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Speaker 1: play well. When you draft a guy number one overall,

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Speaker 1: a bad season. You know, their team was just off.

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Speaker 1: You know, Myles Garrett was fantastic all season. But other

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Speaker 1: than that, I would say the Browns were a team

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Speaker 1: They have their offensive lines fantastic. Obviously Baker was coming

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Speaker 1: And now the Raiders, in a weird way, are not

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Speaker 1: inconceivable that we wake up and you know he's got fired. Uh,

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Speaker 1: not saying I'm given a full pass to to Lawrence

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Speaker 1: if you're a guy, how if you're a girl, listen

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Speaker 1: every day the turmoil that's going around around justin Fields.

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Speaker 1: Like you know, he clearly has a lot of talent,

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Speaker 1: the Giants again. It's not inconceivable. They get to nine

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Speaker 1: Could they be the seven seed? And if they lose

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Speaker 1: Miles Garrett's out running at his side. You have a

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Speaker 1: lot more information early in the game. You don't know

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Speaker 1: ship beside the team that you have prepared for. The

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Speaker 1: guy might have. Tom Brady is off games, Aaron Rodgers

430
00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:38,120
Speaker 1: is off games. But you don't know he's gonna be flawless.

431
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Speaker 1: Maybe they're gonna struggle today, maybe they're gonna be awesome.

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Speaker 1: Let the game play out a little bit. It's the

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Speaker 1: first series of the game. With your backup quarterback, get

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Speaker 1: some points on the board. I am naturally the way

435
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Speaker 1: I live my life. I would say I'm very, very

436
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Speaker 1: aggressive pedal to the medal. I've been like that for

437
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Speaker 1: a long period of time. I always lean aggressive, aggressive,

438
00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:04,920
Speaker 1: So I am pro pushing the envelope in any walk

439
00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:08,359
Speaker 1: of life, whether that's a fourth down, whether that's investing,

440
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Speaker 1: whether that's should you upgrade at home? Whatever it is,

441
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Speaker 1: whatever it is, I will always lean on the side

442
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Speaker 1: of the ledger be aggressive. But I I don't think

443
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Speaker 1: we can just independently with no context, always go for it.

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00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:25,480
Speaker 1: First series of the game, I saw Matt Ryan and

445
00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:28,640
Speaker 1: the Falcons do it against the forty Niners. They get gifted.

446
00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:32,600
Speaker 1: They they lose the toss. The Niners get the ball

447
00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:35,520
Speaker 1: on the first kickoff the literally the first play of

448
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Speaker 1: the game. The dude fumbles it. They basically land in

449
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Speaker 1: the red zone with the fumble. They end up at

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Speaker 1: basically close to the goal line on fourth down. It

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Speaker 1: was a free series form. They were not getting the ball.

452
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Speaker 1: Three points is just a free three points. They go

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Speaker 1: for it. Of course they get shut out. They do

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Speaker 1: not score, They do not score touchdown, they have zero points.

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Speaker 1: So I I just don't understand that logic and ultimately,

456
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Speaker 1: Lee you can say it. Brandon Staley said this. Hardball

457
00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:06,439
Speaker 1: said this, we're doing the right thing. You lost the game.

458
00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:10,680
Speaker 1: You lost the game. And Hardball now, with this game

459
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Speaker 1: coming up against the Bengals, if they lose that get

460
00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:17,359
Speaker 1: they're not gonna make the playoffs. So everyone on social media,

461
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Speaker 1: every media guy that went to a higher education of

462
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Speaker 1: Northwestern Syracuse gonna applaud you. You're gonna be sitting at

463
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Speaker 1: home come after January ninth or whatever the last week

464
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Speaker 1: of the season is. You will not be in the

465
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Speaker 1: playoffs because you've screwed a couple of games up and

466
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Speaker 1: you can justify it and your owner can be happy.

467
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Speaker 1: But the playoffs are gonna start, and there's a chance

468
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Speaker 1: that Brandon Staley and hardball are not there if they

469
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Speaker 1: had won some of these games where they just would

470
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Speaker 1: have been earlier in the game. I'm not talking late

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Speaker 1: in the game. I'm talking earlier in the game, a

472
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Speaker 1: little quote unquote more conservative with chip shot field goals,

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Speaker 1: especially the Ravens, who's best player beside Lamar Jackson is

474
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Speaker 1: the kicker. Uh, you know, maybe they wouldn't have this problem.

475
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Speaker 1: But again, I think sometimes we lose sight of the

476
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Speaker 1: entire point. Why you play an NFL game, while you

477
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Speaker 1: play a high school game, while you play a college

478
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:12,359
Speaker 1: game is to win. Is ultimate. Whether you win two

479
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Speaker 1: to nothing or whether you win fifty to nine. As

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Speaker 1: long as you win, that is the goal of the game.

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Speaker 1: And we I think we get so caught up in

482
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Speaker 1: the minutia in between the game. Obviously, the production and

483
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Speaker 1: the players, all that stuff matters, but I think sometimes

484
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Speaker 1: the coaching decisions like did you win or lose? Well,

485
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Speaker 1: the process, the process, okay, the process, you missed the

486
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Speaker 1: playoffs they made it isn't Isn't that the point? And

487
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Speaker 1: I think sometimes we lose sight of this in this

488
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Speaker 1: whole argument. Start kicks the field goals in the first quarter.

489
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Speaker 1: It's not gonna kill you, especially because you don't know

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Speaker 1: how many points the other team's gonna score in the

491
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Speaker 1: third quarter. When the other teams scoring in every drive, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: then go for it. Then it makes some sense. But

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Speaker 1: when zero zero, it's not gonna kill you to kick

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Speaker 1: a field goal. Um. The other thing is Aaron Rodgers.

495
00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:02,720
Speaker 1: I after Tom Brady's forms last night, Kyler has fallen apart.

496
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:05,159
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson has been nowhere to be seen because of

497
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Speaker 1: the injury. I don't see how Aaron Rodgers doesn't win

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Speaker 1: the award. Now. I do think there's a fair question.

499
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Speaker 1: We've seen this forever in baseball now. Obviously what's going

500
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Speaker 1: on with the vaccines is different than steroids. But the

501
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,439
Speaker 1: media can get on their high horses stuff, and I

502
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:21,439
Speaker 1: don't know if it's a lock, because to me, I

503
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Speaker 1: don't even think it's a question. He is the best

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Speaker 1: player in football now. Rogers did not lie to his team.

505
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Speaker 1: His team knew, he did not lie to the league.

506
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Speaker 1: The league knew. The only people that didn't know well

507
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Speaker 1: the media and the media. Obviously it's very very angry

508
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Speaker 1: when they find out that they don't know something. So

509
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Speaker 1: I don't know if it's a lock that there's gonna

510
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Speaker 1: be just universal like last year it was, it was

511
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Speaker 1: clear Aaron Rodgers was gonna be the m v P

512
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Speaker 1: to me with every game that plays out, He's shure

513
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Speaker 1: the m v P. In my eyes, he to me

514
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Speaker 1: is the best player in the National Football League. Is

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Speaker 1: the media gonna go vote for him? I don't have

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Speaker 1: a vote. You know, I would die to have some

517
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Speaker 1: of these votes. I mean I spend my entire fall

518
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Speaker 1: watching freaking every game, sitting on a couch doing this

519
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,199
Speaker 1: for a living, and I got no emotion or no agenda.

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00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:05,000
Speaker 1: I would just vote for the best player. We know

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Speaker 1: that's not the case. So it's gonna be very very fascinating.

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Speaker 1: I just don't know who the other options are. I

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Speaker 1: guess you could vote for Jonathan Taylor and listen, I

524
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:14,560
Speaker 1: think Jonathan Taylor is a stud. But I I could

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Speaker 1: not vote for Jonathan Taylor over Aaron Rodgers. I couldn't

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Speaker 1: do it. And obviously, the way the NFL works, you

527
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:22,240
Speaker 1: will only get you know, it's like the Stucky but

528
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:25,320
Speaker 1: the Heisman you can vote for like five guys right

529
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:28,119
Speaker 1: first play votes, second place votes, their place votes. Remember

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Speaker 1: the story that went, you know, I think it was

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Speaker 1: last year when Russell Wilson that first half of two

532
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:34,920
Speaker 1: twenty was on pace for like seventy touchdowns. He ended

533
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Speaker 1: up slowing down, but it was like he's never received

534
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Speaker 1: an m v P vote. It's because you only vote

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Speaker 1: for one player, and to me, I don't I don't

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Speaker 1: know at this point in time recording this December twentye

537
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Speaker 1: how you couldn't vote for Aaron Rodgers. But I'm not

538
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Speaker 1: very confident that's the way it's gonna play out. I'm

539
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Speaker 1: just not because we've seen you know, the media and

540
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Speaker 1: get on their high horse. They just can on this

541
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Speaker 1: stuff because again the team, the league was not lied to.

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Speaker 1: They felt they were like, now we we can uh

543
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:04,880
Speaker 1: argue the semantics of what he said. I didn't even

544
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Speaker 1: I didn't even realize when he said, I don't even care,

545
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Speaker 1: but they do. And I think his his MVP candidacy,

546
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Speaker 1: which would be his fourth and would put him in

547
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:15,720
Speaker 1: very very rare air. And you have back to back

548
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:18,359
Speaker 1: m vps for the first time in his career, and

549
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:20,800
Speaker 1: it looks like they're gonna be the number one seed. Like,

550
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:24,160
Speaker 1: it's a pretty defining moment in a career that honestly

551
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 1: looks like it's kind of hitting it stride again. It's

552
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:28,440
Speaker 1: like getting a second wind. You know. He went through

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Speaker 1: that stretch from like ten to fourteen fifteen. Now he's

554
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:33,919
Speaker 1: going through this stretch the last couple of years. If

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Speaker 1: he stays in Green Bay, which I don't know why

556
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 1: he would leave, he could go on just another tear.

557
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 1: Remember Brady had like three separate careers, right, He had

558
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Speaker 1: early on in New England, then he had the Randy

559
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Speaker 1: Moss in New England, and then he kind of had

560
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Speaker 1: the second iteration of Josh McDaniels in New England. And

561
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Speaker 1: now he's even having a fourth with UH with Tampa Bay, right,

562
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Speaker 1: And I think Aaron Rodgers, you know, potentially could have

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Speaker 1: two or three more iterations of a career that like

564
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Speaker 1: could be a Hall of Fame career in its own

565
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Speaker 1: and that's kind of what he feels like he's in

566
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Speaker 1: the midst of right now. Again, to me, no brainer,

567
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 1: he'd be my vote. We talked a little bit about

568
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Speaker 1: the Lions and Dan Campbell and those guys winning one

569
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 1: thing that they got lucky that is going on right

570
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:16,760
Speaker 1: now is that there is no Trevor Lawrence. And even

571
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:19,840
Speaker 1: though Trevor Lawrence looks pretty terrible, but and Andrew Luck,

572
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Speaker 1: you know, even a Cam Newton just a big time

573
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:27,960
Speaker 1: prospect in this draft. Otherwise it would be pointless. I

574
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,640
Speaker 1: am anti tanking, and really tanking doesn't work in the

575
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Speaker 1: NFL because coaches and players just will never actively try

576
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Speaker 1: to lose games. It's never happened in the league. It

577
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Speaker 1: just never has. I guess you could argue it kind

578
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Speaker 1: of did when they pulled Jalen Hurts out of the

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Speaker 1: game and put uh, what's his name in? I can't

580
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Speaker 1: even remember the dudes name. He's on the forty nine

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00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 1: Nate Sudfeld. Remember the Giants freaked out, but like they

582
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 1: were so terrible they weren't even drafting one who even cared. Ultimately,

583
00:29:57,840 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 1: it did not matter. The only people that got mad

584
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,480
Speaker 1: we're like the you know, six and ten Giants. But

585
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:07,200
Speaker 1: ultimately we've seen year in year out, these teams with

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Speaker 1: like one win in December sometimes get a couple of

587
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Speaker 1: wins and you're like, what are you doing. It's because

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Speaker 1: the coaches and players, especially the players in a non

589
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 1: guaranteed contracts. Sport are always fighting for their professional lives,

590
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 1: and they're told in their kind of circle of football

591
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:27,960
Speaker 1: with their coaches, is the eye and the sky doesn't lie.

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Speaker 1: And that is your resume. Most of us, right, we're

593
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:34,000
Speaker 1: on LinkedIn. We got all the former jobs we've ever had,

594
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 1: you know, in our resume. In football, it's the tape.

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00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:41,200
Speaker 1: That's how you're being evaluated by all other thirty one teams,

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Speaker 1: all their scouting departments, their general managers, and ultimately once

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00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:47,600
Speaker 1: free agency and cuts happen that you know, the coaching staffs.

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00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 1: So you keep trying and you watch the lines. They're

599
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:52,920
Speaker 1: trying their ass off. But I do think it's easier

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Speaker 1: to justify because if there was a top flight quarterback,

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00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:58,840
Speaker 1: I would call them pretty big idiots. They they've gone

602
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 1: this whole season, lose all these games, and now they

603
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 1: just found themselves out of the number one overall you

604
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 1: know pick which the Jags have, which you would think

605
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 1: unless they have some crazy coach that doesn't want to

606
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Speaker 1: coach Trevor Lawrence, if they get the number one overall pick.

607
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 1: You know, if there was a quarterback in the draft,

608
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:17,560
Speaker 1: they would trade it. You know what would if there

609
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 1: was like an Andrew Luck in this draft. And let's

610
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,480
Speaker 1: say the Jacks were gonna keep Trevor Lawrence and trade

611
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 1: the pick. You don't think Hawry Roseman would trade all

612
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Speaker 1: three of his first round picks for that number one

613
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Speaker 1: overall pick, or the New York Giants wouldn't trade pick

614
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 1: five and six for that. Of course they would, but

615
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Speaker 1: I think that's not the case this year. Like who

616
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Speaker 1: are the top picks? Aidan Hutchinson looks like a really

617
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:40,920
Speaker 1: really good player, big time prospect. Cavon Thibodeau also looks

618
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:43,720
Speaker 1: like an excellent prospect. I don't know if i'd put

619
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Speaker 1: either one of those guys Myles Garrett hell even what

620
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 1: I'm seeing out of like Nick Bosa, And I was

621
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Speaker 1: someone I wasn't anti nick Bosa, but I never thought

622
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 1: he was gonna be this. But likelihood that either one

623
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Speaker 1: of those guys are gonna be Miles Garrett are gonna

624
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 1: be Nick Bosa what Khalil Mack was when he was

625
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 1: on the Raiders probably slim the nut. It's just it's

626
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 1: probably just not gonna happen. Maybe one of the two

627
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:05,640
Speaker 1: of them are, but it's it's a draft that's pretty

628
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:08,560
Speaker 1: I think questionable up top. And I talked to a

629
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:11,240
Speaker 1: lot of my buddies in the scouting world. They think

630
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 1: the draft is probably better like pick ten to forty

631
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 1: than it is one to ten. Not that there aren't

632
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 1: good players that are gonna go in the top ten,

633
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 1: it just doesn't feel as maybe the star power just

634
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 1: isn't there. And so for the Lions, I give Dan

635
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 1: Campbell credit. You keep winning, you keep developing a culture.

636
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 1: Whether you get Thibodeaux or Adian Hutchinson. I'd rather have

637
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 1: Hutchinson in the Thibodeaux, But I don't think it's that

638
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:35,160
Speaker 1: big a deal, you know, and and who knows. I mean,

639
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:37,480
Speaker 1: the Jack's probably are gonna win another game. What a

640
00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 1: disaster that franchise is. I mean, that franchise knows how

641
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 1: to lose more than any other franchise in the league.

642
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 1: I mean, they have the market cornered on just losing eleven, twelve,

643
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:49,160
Speaker 1: thirteen games a year. No one knows it better than

644
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 1: the Jacks. It doesn't matter who their coaches, it doesn't

645
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 1: matter who their players are. As long as Shot Khan

646
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 1: and the con family owns that team, they just they

647
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:58,800
Speaker 1: just lose. I mean, I've even given them credit. Let's

648
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 1: talk a little about Urban Meyer, who they're gonna fire

649
00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 1: for costs, and we'll see. Obviously, if I was in

650
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:08,400
Speaker 1: their shoes, I would fire him for cost too, because

651
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 1: let's just say, you know, he has sixty million dollars

652
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 1: left on his contract. Well, if I'm Shod Khan, it's

653
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 1: the worst case scenario, I pay him the sixty million dollars.

654
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 1: But what if I can find some settlement where I

655
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 1: only pay him twenty five Would you rather pay someone

656
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 1: million dollars or sixty million dollars? This way big business works.

657
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 1: Whether they win or lose, time will tell. We'll see.

658
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 1: But it's worth going to court, arbitration wherever you go to,

659
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:37,480
Speaker 1: you know, to litigate this stuff. He made the right move.

660
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 1: And I actually think there is enough information right and

661
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 1: in evidence over the year where the Jacks might have

662
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:46,360
Speaker 1: a decent case some of the stories about the coaches,

663
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 1: some of the obviously the story of him staying back,

664
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 1: the story of him kicking Josh Lambeau. There there's actually

665
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:54,000
Speaker 1: a decent chance that Shodkan does not the pay him

666
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 1: a penny. And listen, I know Urban said that he's

667
00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 1: still in the in the interview, he did with rap sheet.

668
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 1: I also don't understand why Urban talked. What was the

669
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 1: point of talking? Why do you need to talk? Just

670
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 1: fucking stay quiet for a week or two. Just take

671
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 1: a deep breath. I know emotions are high. Why do

672
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 1: you have to say anything. I tried to read that

673
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 1: rap sheet article. I'm like, this is so dumb. Why

674
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 1: is he talking? Is he just such a big ego maniac?

675
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:22,280
Speaker 1: He can't just you got fired, You're you're just you're

676
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:25,839
Speaker 1: thoroughly embarrassed. What is some quotes on an nfl dot

677
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:28,279
Speaker 1: com article gonna do for you? Did someone give him

678
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:30,719
Speaker 1: that advice to say, I don't get that. If you

679
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 1: want to talk in a month or two, like, just

680
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 1: let everything die down, let let everything just just simmer

681
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 1: a minute. But he just had to get it some

682
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:40,880
Speaker 1: quotes that I just don't understand what the point of

683
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:43,359
Speaker 1: it was. He said nothing. It's not like he took

684
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:45,799
Speaker 1: responsibility and said, you know, he just kept saying, I'm

685
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:48,360
Speaker 1: sorry for the city of Jacksonville. What does that even mean.

686
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:51,760
Speaker 1: It's it's such a fake phony statement. He is such

687
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 1: a phony, such a fraud. And one thing I was

688
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:59,400
Speaker 1: reading today is it going back to the preseason that

689
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 1: he lit into his coaches after a preseason game. And

690
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:06,959
Speaker 1: I was just thinking, and I've said this forever, while

691
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 1: college football in the NFL are both football, And if

692
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 1: you went to Ohio State practice and you went to

693
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:13,839
Speaker 1: a New England Patriot practice or an l A RAM

694
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:16,840
Speaker 1: or forty nine or practice, it might not look that different.

695
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 1: They stretch, they warm up, they go to individuals, They

696
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:23,720
Speaker 1: then go to groups, then they may break into special teams,

697
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:26,719
Speaker 1: then they go to team like the setup of practice

698
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 1: mostly is the same. Right, the football would look very

699
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:33,400
Speaker 1: similar whether they're in pads or shorts and a teacher. Right,

700
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:38,399
Speaker 1: But the mindset getting mad over a preseason game, that

701
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 1: that would be like if you're a salesman, you're getting

702
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 1: super mad over someone telling you know you're here, know

703
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 1: all the time, you're numb to it. It's part of

704
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 1: the business. That's what you get used to. What do

705
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 1: you mean you get mad over a preseason game? Do

706
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:54,320
Speaker 1: you not understand what you're getting involved in? And he

707
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:56,280
Speaker 1: kept saying, like I have to learn how to lose.

708
00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 1: Like you think how spoiled the guy was at Florida

709
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 1: and Ohio State eight? How Belichick lost nine games last

710
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:05,280
Speaker 1: year greatest coach in the history of the NFL lost

711
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:08,759
Speaker 1: nine games in two thousand twenty. Hell, this year he's

712
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:12,359
Speaker 1: lost five and he's having a good season. Like these

713
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 1: guys are numbed to that. The industries are so different,

714
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 1: and this guy was just clearly a phony, bully, egomaniac

715
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 1: who can really recruit, really can't. He was good at

716
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:28,400
Speaker 1: Ohio State, excellent out of Florida. It's a point of difference,

717
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 1: you know, for him. But in the pros, this guy

718
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:35,919
Speaker 1: was getting mad after a preseason loss, like I would

719
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:38,240
Speaker 1: have been out on him then, you know, and listen,

720
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:41,400
Speaker 1: Shot Khan took a huge swing. I do not blame

721
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 1: him for hiring Urban Meyer, like I mean, I wouldn't have,

722
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 1: but I do get from where he was sitting his

723
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 1: franchise laughing stock. Everyone's making fun of him. He has

724
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 1: the opportunity the hire Urban Meyer. Maybe Urban's the next

725
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 1: hardball hell in in in Shad's mind, he was watching

726
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:59,919
Speaker 1: Urban play hardball, and he was kicking his ass so white,

727
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:02,399
Speaker 1: couldn't he come well. Jim Harbaugh, I don't know, has

728
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 1: spent fifteen years in the NFL as a player, then

729
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 1: he coached in the NFL for al Davis and the

730
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 1: Raiders for a couple of years. That's how he got

731
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:11,359
Speaker 1: his coaching start. He understood what a pro locker room

732
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:13,400
Speaker 1: and a pro mind set was. Urban had no clue.

733
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 1: He just kept screaming at his coaches like, hey, bro,

734
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:20,880
Speaker 1: you hired these guys like these are your employees, and

735
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna go to some deep like leadership one

736
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 1: on one. Obviously Urban has led more people than most

737
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 1: people myself included listening to this podcast, right, he has

738
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 1: led different organizations, but in basically a completely different industry.

739
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 1: In his style did not translate, and not everything translates.

740
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:41,959
Speaker 1: Like if you took Belichick and who's a fantastic leader,

741
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:44,759
Speaker 1: who's excellent in the football realm, and you went and

742
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 1: put him in corporate America like insurance, maybe it would

743
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 1: be good at it. Because the way he communicates in

744
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:54,440
Speaker 1: football might not be allowed in certain sectors you just

745
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:56,880
Speaker 1: put them in like San Francisco might make some people uncomfortable,

746
00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 1: or Los Angeles or New York it wouldn't work. But

747
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:02,400
Speaker 1: in the Boll world, the way Belichick, the way Saban

748
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:05,840
Speaker 1: talk it works right in there in college or in

749
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:09,720
Speaker 1: the pros, and it just feels like urban didn't understand

750
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:13,480
Speaker 1: how to communicate at the NFL level and didn't understand

751
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 1: how to get through to people because their team sucks,

752
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:19,880
Speaker 1: and like they were winning and losing not necessarily because

753
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,759
Speaker 1: of him, right, they would have sucked, they would have

754
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 1: been better. I guess if like Belichick or Andy Reid

755
00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:27,359
Speaker 1: was their coach, but they're not any good, Like they

756
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:29,719
Speaker 1: don't have that much talent. I think it's more than

757
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 1: just this guy didn't understand. It was like you had

758
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:34,959
Speaker 1: a guy who was like a fish out of water

759
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 1: where it's I thought, we hired this this leadership, you know,

760
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 1: one oh one ass kicker, and he turned out he

761
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 1: was just kind of like a raging dick that didn't

762
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:50,000
Speaker 1: understand people. Because when you hear Saban talk about his players,

763
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 1: remember when he went on the rant like a month

764
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:53,880
Speaker 1: ago before they were going to play Auburn and Georgia

765
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 1: going to bat for his players, calling all the fans crazy.

766
00:38:57,200 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 1: He was playing psychological games. Belichick is it all the time?

767
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 1: How Belichick after getting his ass kicked, ask kicked, would

768
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 1: be strong, but I thought they got outplayed against the Colts.

769
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:12,239
Speaker 1: He was, you know, Dick would be strong. He had

770
00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:14,759
Speaker 1: a mask on so you could barely hear him, but

771
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 1: he was. He gave basically no answers in the press conference.

772
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:21,239
Speaker 1: He came back twenty four hours later and apologized. You know,

773
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:24,359
Speaker 1: I mean, now he's seventy, maybe he's getting a little

774
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:26,960
Speaker 1: more mature. I don't know, but like he kind of

775
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 1: understands the game. Belichick can play the game. Urban refused

776
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:32,880
Speaker 1: to play the game. And part of what I said,

777
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 1: politics in the NFL is like dealing with players. You

778
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:38,759
Speaker 1: can't just scream it everyone on your team. Some of

779
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:41,359
Speaker 1: them make twelve million dollars and they don't respond to that,

780
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 1: so you gotta treat him a little bit differently. And

781
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:46,560
Speaker 1: and Urban could never figure that out and still still

782
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:48,400
Speaker 1: kind of crazy, you know, I guess less than a

783
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:51,919
Speaker 1: week later, but the Texans that that FanDuel Man felt

784
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 1: like the lock of the week, Uh Texas. Somehow, Why

785
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:58,960
Speaker 1: would the tech why would the Jaguars players care that

786
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:02,359
Speaker 1: Urban Meyer he was fired for cops, like everyone hated him,

787
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:04,279
Speaker 1: so they were just gonna be more inspired than he

788
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:07,400
Speaker 1: wasn't there. Urban Meyer wasn't calling plays. He was just

789
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:09,440
Speaker 1: kind of standing there. You know, would be one thing

790
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:11,719
Speaker 1: if like we get sometimes you see that with a coordinator.

791
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:13,359
Speaker 1: It's like you fire the head coach who was also

792
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:15,680
Speaker 1: the offensive coordinators, like you get it, get some new blood,

793
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 1: you get some new ideas, no new ideas. He wasn't

794
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:21,400
Speaker 1: coaching the team. He was just standing there screaming at people,

795
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:27,200
Speaker 1: which was obviously not very effective. Okay, let's go a

796
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:29,880
Speaker 1: little middle coff mail back at John Middlecoff as the

797
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 1: Instagram fire up in those d M s um and

798
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 1: then we will read your question here. I'm gonna fire

799
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:39,439
Speaker 1: through a few and then I'll answer a bunch more

800
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 1: for Friday Spot Seahawks fan, and it's been a frustrating

801
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:46,440
Speaker 1: season to say the least. One source of frustration is

802
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:50,560
Speaker 1: the media's love affair with DK Metcalf. From what we

803
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:53,480
Speaker 1: can see, he's a very large, fast man, was zero

804
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 1: route running skills and average hands. Almost every game or pregame,

805
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:00,319
Speaker 1: talking heads constantly talk about how Russell need to get

806
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:02,880
Speaker 1: the ball to DKA. Meanwhile, Lockett is breaking up with

807
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:05,759
Speaker 1: kinds of records and making all these silly catches left

808
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:08,480
Speaker 1: and right. Locke, It's sweet. As someone who's at the

809
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:12,840
Speaker 1: front row seat watching uh Tyler Lockett's career bad ass,

810
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 1: I feel Seattle should have to take advantage of the

811
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:19,799
Speaker 1: current DK trade capital and get some picks or one

812
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:25,359
Speaker 1: more better lineman. Here's the problem. It's it's hard on

813
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 1: a rookie contract to move off a guy like DK

814
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:31,879
Speaker 1: so skilled, what would truly be the market because to him,

815
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 1: his value is still pretty high. To you, uh, you

816
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:37,880
Speaker 1: know so many wide receivers every year in the NFL.

817
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:40,279
Speaker 1: Is someone gonna trade for him? People like, why are

818
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:43,240
Speaker 1: you getting rid of them? I'm with you. He feels

819
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 1: like this year he's been a little underwhelming. Feels like,

820
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 1: you know, I don't have hair, so I hate judging

821
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 1: people with hair, But like, why is he gonna color

822
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:53,920
Speaker 1: his hair a different color every game? He's got a

823
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 1: little kind of me thing going on. We're tying, and

824
00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:59,359
Speaker 1: I mean in in a weird way. Russell does too,

825
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:03,880
Speaker 1: but it's like kind of team oriented. Tyler Lockett, I

826
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:06,279
Speaker 1: don't even think I've ever heard the guy talk. Just

827
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:08,400
Speaker 1: every single game I see him, he catches a touchdown,

828
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:10,879
Speaker 1: either a deep go route or one of those deep,

829
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:13,480
Speaker 1: you know, crossing routes in the end zone where no

830
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:17,480
Speaker 1: one can ever cover. Uh, you know, you guys are spoiled.

831
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:20,840
Speaker 1: You have Locket who's just the ultimate teammate, tough guy,

832
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:24,280
Speaker 1: and you've got d k the ultimate skill freak, a zoid.

833
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:27,240
Speaker 1: Just he's kind of like the modern day Terrell Owens.

834
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:31,239
Speaker 1: Now I'm not Terrell became a pretty big pain in

835
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 1: the ass. I don't think k is that level. But

836
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 1: t O was more dominant than Decay. Now, TiO didn't

837
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:38,359
Speaker 1: have good hands either. When you can run a four

838
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 1: two and you can faster everyone on the field, you

839
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 1: can have questionable hands. You know two guys with questionable

840
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:46,480
Speaker 1: hands that were you know, TiO had a better career

841
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:48,319
Speaker 1: than this other guy. But Vernon Davis didn't have great

842
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 1: hands either. When you're that fast and that explosive, you

843
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:55,920
Speaker 1: can body catch in de case hands, I would say,

844
00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:59,840
Speaker 1: you know, if like Davante Adams or Tyler Lockett or

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00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:03,480
Speaker 1: a ten, you know, dec is probably like a six seven.

846
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 1: But he's so talented that it it doesn't always matter.

847
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:10,799
Speaker 1: I don't think you can trade him though, would be

848
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:15,320
Speaker 1: my rebuttal there bonus question, do you think the Giants

849
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Speaker 1: should go for Kenny Pickett in the draft if they

850
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 1: can trade up for solid quarterback. I think you'd have

851
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:23,440
Speaker 1: to think about it the way I've heard Kenny Pickett described,

852
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:26,879
Speaker 1: you know, it was like Cousins, Matt Jones. I've I've

853
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:30,000
Speaker 1: watched him play one game. I saw some of that.

854
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:32,920
Speaker 1: He's like, you know, Mac mac is obviously much more

855
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:34,840
Speaker 1: athletic than Kirk Cousins, but I think he's kind of

856
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:38,439
Speaker 1: in that vein Jimmy Garoppolo. You know, that's just kind

857
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:41,440
Speaker 1: of you know, he's not slinging it like Rogers or

858
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 1: Momes or Josh Allen. So the way I look at

859
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 1: building teams, and I worked in Philly, and honestly, for

860
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 1: a California guy, it was very, very healthy for me

861
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 1: to go to games in Philadelphia at MetLife Stadium, to

862
00:43:55,960 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 1: feel those stadiums in December. There's a reason I had success.

863
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:04,880
Speaker 1: Eli had a big arm. There's a reason Donovan McNabb

864
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 1: had success in Philadelphia. There's a reason Tom Brady had

865
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:11,320
Speaker 1: success in New England. There's a reason Roethlisberger had success.

866
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 1: And you need a big arm. I don't like a

867
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 1: weak arm quarterback in the Northeast. I just don't. So

868
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:22,880
Speaker 1: I would say, I don't know, man, that wouldn't be

869
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:25,239
Speaker 1: my first choice. I would look more at the guy

870
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:29,239
Speaker 1: at Liberty Malik Willis. I think his name is He's

871
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:32,799
Speaker 1: a major project, but he physically has the gifts. Now,

872
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:35,200
Speaker 1: in a perfect world, ten years ago, you draft that

873
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:37,680
Speaker 1: guy in the second round. You know we live in

874
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:42,399
Speaker 1: different times. Quarterback inflation, you gotta overpay discovered you through

875
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:45,000
Speaker 1: Colin Blah bla blah. Appreciate it. Can remember of the

876
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 1: top of my head. If you do mail bags Thursday

877
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 1: night football, I do. I do the mail bag on

878
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:52,400
Speaker 1: for Tuesdays and Fridays. Do you think Herbert might be

879
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 1: throwing the ball too hard tonight? How many damn balls

880
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 1: have gone off Guy's hands and gone flying into the

881
00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:02,120
Speaker 1: air afterward? This is an reaction to the h one

882
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 1: night would that have been? Was that Thursday night? What

883
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:07,400
Speaker 1: day are we on? Monday? It was last Thursday. I

884
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 1: don't think he throws it too hard, but I do

885
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 1: think there are a couple of throws that and if

886
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 1: you remember, if you're if you're my age or older,

887
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:18,280
Speaker 1: some far plays in the nineties he used to shatter

888
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:23,160
Speaker 1: guy's fingers. If Herbert can learn, like obviously like a

889
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:25,920
Speaker 1: twenty plus yard throw, you just gotta throw it as

890
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:28,440
Speaker 1: hard as you can, like your natural motion. But if

891
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 1: a guy is within ten yards because Keenan Allen I've

892
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 1: always believed has really good hands, really good ball skills.

893
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:37,440
Speaker 1: Like Keenan Allen is a possession wide receiver, right, he's

894
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 1: not a deep threat, and balls go through Keenan Allen's hands.

895
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 1: The play that the guy got knocked out, I mean,

896
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:48,400
Speaker 1: he threw it so hard. He's throwing it so hard.

897
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:54,279
Speaker 1: I but it's not it's accurate. I can't even imagine.

898
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:57,640
Speaker 1: When I was at Fresno State and Derek we signed

899
00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 1: Derek Carr. We used to run drills and practice and

900
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:03,160
Speaker 1: sometimes like if I was off to the side, our

901
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator would be like, hey, jump in there and

902
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:07,760
Speaker 1: catch these balls. Like I would stand at the pylon.

903
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 1: They would stand at like the far hash of like

904
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 1: the ten yard line, and it's and Derek had the

905
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 1: best arm on our team, but our starting quarterback who

906
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:16,839
Speaker 1: didn't have a good of arm. When you look at

907
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:18,879
Speaker 1: a guy on your couch and you go, this guy

908
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:21,000
Speaker 1: has an average arm. Let's use like Alex Smith or

909
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:24,480
Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo. If they just threw you a twenty yard pass,

910
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:27,480
Speaker 1: it would hurt your hands. If you're a decent athlete

911
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:30,360
Speaker 1: and you can catch like I can't. I can't catch

912
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:34,680
Speaker 1: an average NFL players or college players ball without gloves,

913
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:38,279
Speaker 1: let alone the hot like I don't think you quite realize.

914
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:40,320
Speaker 1: And the only reason I do is because I've caught

915
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:44,359
Speaker 1: these balls that I can't even imagine, Like can you?

916
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:47,040
Speaker 1: I would love to ask and catcherr what it's like

917
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:49,759
Speaker 1: to catch or aldis Chapman or to catch some of

918
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:52,319
Speaker 1: these bullpen guys throwing a hundred miles an hour, Like

919
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:54,880
Speaker 1: if you're off just a couple inches, is the thing

920
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 1: in a bounce off your glove and hit you in

921
00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 1: the face or hit you in your cup, hit you

922
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:01,840
Speaker 1: in your ankle, like I some of those balls Herbert

923
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:04,920
Speaker 1: was throwing. So I don't need what was your question?

924
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:07,959
Speaker 1: Because you need to throw it softer, maybe God damn

925
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:10,680
Speaker 1: me throws it hard. Herbert is so fun to watch.

926
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:15,280
Speaker 1: Can you? Can you explain how Green Bay can't resign

927
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:18,120
Speaker 1: a lot of guys with the salary cap supposed supposedly

928
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:22,560
Speaker 1: going to huge amounts keep it real? That's a good question.

929
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:24,799
Speaker 1: I'd have to look at their salary cap. You know,

930
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:28,799
Speaker 1: Rogers takes up a large percentage. Davante obviously will too.

931
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 1: You know, back there makes a lot of money. Uh,

932
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:36,480
Speaker 1: Aaron Jones makes a decent amount of money. Uh, that's

933
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 1: a good question. I don't I don't think they're that

934
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:40,680
Speaker 1: When you sign a guy like if they if they

935
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 1: extend Aaron Rodgers and Davante Adams, you can push that

936
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 1: over the life of the deal, So they're gonna be fine.

937
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:52,719
Speaker 1: I think their problem historically has been, you know, if

938
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:56,360
Speaker 1: they're gonna pay Aaron Rodgers fifty million dollars in Davante,

939
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:02,759
Speaker 1: Davante is gonna get a lot. That's a lot of

940
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:05,759
Speaker 1: guaranteed money for a franchise that while they are a

941
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:09,200
Speaker 1: massive brand, they don't have some owner that has like

942
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:12,720
Speaker 1: seven other businesses and worth five billion dollars. So it's

943
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:16,440
Speaker 1: it is a little more complicated in their situation. I

944
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 1: saw the USFL commercial on Sunday. I I did too.

945
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 1: I don't even know what that is. Now. I'm wondering

946
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:23,680
Speaker 1: why the USFL and other past leagues have never had

947
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:26,359
Speaker 1: success in the spring. I just think they would sense

948
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:28,480
Speaker 1: the rest of the country loves football so much in

949
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 1: the fall and early winter. Well, I know this football

950
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:35,960
Speaker 1: is the only real job I've ever had, whether it

951
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 1: was working in it or it got me into radio

952
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:41,200
Speaker 1: because I could talk about it, and now I do this.

953
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:46,120
Speaker 1: But like one difference me and some people, like when

954
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:48,359
Speaker 1: I worked in the NFL, I love the other sports.

955
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:52,080
Speaker 1: I love golf as much as football, and honestly sometimes

956
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:54,799
Speaker 1: more like I love a golf major as much as

957
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:58,120
Speaker 1: I do an NFL Sunday. Probably it equals like the

958
00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:01,480
Speaker 1: NFL playoffs up, I love the n c Double A

959
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:04,080
Speaker 1: tournament like I love other stuff. And I think a

960
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:07,200
Speaker 1: lot of sports fans that are huge football fans like

961
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:09,400
Speaker 1: part of being a huge football fan. Let's say you're

962
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:11,840
Speaker 1: a big Steeler fan, it's the Steelers. You watch the

963
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:15,200
Speaker 1: Steelers every Sunday. You watch the Cowboys. I was gonna

964
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:17,239
Speaker 1: say the New York Giants, but you probably turn them off.

965
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:19,280
Speaker 1: The L. A. Rams. I don't know how many fans

966
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:22,440
Speaker 1: they have, the Niners, you know whatever. It's not the

967
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:25,239
Speaker 1: same when you're watching some even if you're not a

968
00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:27,720
Speaker 1: big college football fan but you love football. It's easy

969
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:31,080
Speaker 1: to watch Alabama l s U or watch Oregon play

970
00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 1: Ohio State, like it's it's easy. It's it is more

971
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:38,520
Speaker 1: difficult to watch when it's you know, I'm just gonna

972
00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:42,160
Speaker 1: make up some team. The Dallas Spurs, Verse the l

973
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:46,120
Speaker 1: A Stars, and you're like, who are these guys? And

974
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:49,440
Speaker 1: you can name two or three players on the team.

975
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:53,240
Speaker 1: When you know there's NBA games, n C Double A games,

976
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:57,279
Speaker 1: maybe baseball started, there's just other stuff to consume. Like

977
00:49:57,400 --> 00:50:00,200
Speaker 1: I I've tried to watch the a F for or

978
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:03,799
Speaker 1: the XFL just and again, I love football, but it

979
00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:06,440
Speaker 1: doesn't do anything for me. And when I when I

980
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:08,320
Speaker 1: worked in the NFL, I had to scout those leagues

981
00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:10,439
Speaker 1: and it kind of bored me. So I think part

982
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:12,960
Speaker 1: of it is just it's hard for the consumer to

983
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:18,839
Speaker 1: get really into it just because you don't you don't

984
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:21,920
Speaker 1: have a connection. Part of it's easy to watch the

985
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:24,040
Speaker 1: n C Double A tournament because you're like, oh, Duke's

986
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:26,920
Speaker 1: playing Gonzaga, even if you don't know one player on

987
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:30,000
Speaker 1: either team, you just know the teams. Well. When you're

988
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:33,960
Speaker 1: watching the XFL or the USFL, you don't even know

989
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:36,799
Speaker 1: what the team. You're like the what it feels like

990
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:41,000
Speaker 1: you're watching a movie like The Replacements. It's just harder

991
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:44,600
Speaker 1: to get into as a consumer. It really is. I mean,

992
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:47,959
Speaker 1: part of what makes football or any pro sports over

993
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:50,839
Speaker 1: you know, historically a big deal It's like when the

994
00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:53,160
Speaker 1: NBA was crushing it when I was in the nineties,

995
00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:56,640
Speaker 1: it was like they had a lot of famous people Jordan's,

996
00:50:56,640 --> 00:50:59,920
Speaker 1: but the coaches are famous. So when you're just watching

997
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:02,960
Speaker 1: who's this coach? What's going on? It's not gonna keep

998
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:06,480
Speaker 1: your attention. And then you know, if you've got family,

999
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:08,960
Speaker 1: you can't just tell him you're watching football. Three shive.

1000
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:12,200
Speaker 1: You need to leave some open weekends to uh to

1001
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:17,120
Speaker 1: the people in your life. Question for the Mailbag. As

1002
00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:19,640
Speaker 1: a lifelong Patriot fan, I've got a weird feeling about

1003
00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:21,480
Speaker 1: the Colts game on Saturday because I feel like they

1004
00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:24,080
Speaker 1: don't match up grade against the Colts team. Am I crazy?

1005
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:26,440
Speaker 1: Or is it a week to take a game plan

1006
00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:29,640
Speaker 1: to win Saturday? Well, this was obviously before the game,

1007
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:34,960
Speaker 1: you know. I think styles make fights, and the Colts

1008
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:37,640
Speaker 1: are very much like the Patriots, right they can play

1009
00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:40,400
Speaker 1: really good defense, and they can run the ball, and

1010
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:43,040
Speaker 1: then you put them at home, they I would say,

1011
00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:45,920
Speaker 1: for the last twenty years they've probably been a pretty

1012
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:50,480
Speaker 1: good home team, right under Peyton, then Underlock and then

1013
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:53,680
Speaker 1: under Frank the last couple of years. Just because it's

1014
00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:56,600
Speaker 1: that place, Rocks, it's a big deal anyone. If you're

1015
00:51:56,640 --> 00:52:00,800
Speaker 1: listening to it's been there. That stadium is badass Indie.

1016
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:04,640
Speaker 1: I would say Indianapolis has got to be one of

1017
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:07,440
Speaker 1: the sleeper places that I've been to in America. Like

1018
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:09,800
Speaker 1: you wouldn't meet someone if you're just something like Mexico

1019
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:13,440
Speaker 1: or Hawaii or Miami and you're just bullshitting. You're like, oh,

1020
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:16,400
Speaker 1: you know that's I've been to this great place in Montana,

1021
00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:19,040
Speaker 1: right Or I've been to this awesome place in Philadelphia.

1022
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:22,640
Speaker 1: Both people don't be Like, God, I love downtown Indianapolis,

1023
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:24,920
Speaker 1: but I swear to God haven't been to four or

1024
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:29,320
Speaker 1: five combines. That place is sweet. I love the combine

1025
00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:32,600
Speaker 1: because Indie is a great place, and that the ability

1026
00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:35,440
Speaker 1: to go from like hotel to hotel, it's all connected

1027
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:38,560
Speaker 1: with the conventions leading right to the stadium that Peyton built,

1028
00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:43,960
Speaker 1: great little sports city. Everything is relatively cheap. I remember

1029
00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:46,439
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, coming from the bar area,

1030
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:48,960
Speaker 1: going there and going out the first night and getting

1031
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:51,719
Speaker 1: beers for like ten guys and handing the guy like

1032
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 1: forty bucks and him giving me ten back. I'm like, God,

1033
00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:56,799
Speaker 1: this is this is living. Guys are living out here

1034
00:52:56,840 --> 00:52:59,680
Speaker 1: in the Midwest now as someone who's a little bit

1035
00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:02,240
Speaker 1: of it's where I'm at right now. It's like forty degrees.

1036
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:07,040
Speaker 1: It is freezing. But I've actually been getting into cold

1037
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:09,839
Speaker 1: showers because I saw it like this Navy seal guy.

1038
00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:11,839
Speaker 1: I mean, I've heard it forever, like cold showers are

1039
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:14,319
Speaker 1: healthy for you. You do feel good when you if

1040
00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:16,640
Speaker 1: you just just sometimes you're not in the mood for

1041
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:18,760
Speaker 1: a cold shower, and if you force yourself, it can

1042
00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:23,160
Speaker 1: it can wake the body up. Question for the mail bag,

1043
00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:26,839
Speaker 1: last questionnaire. I'm a big fan of the pot. I'm

1044
00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:30,000
Speaker 1: a huge Jacks fan and a rare one that isn't

1045
00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:33,799
Speaker 1: from Jacksonville. Also Sacramento Kings in the Pittsburgh Pirates got

1046
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:37,440
Speaker 1: you got a weird list of teams. I've listened closely

1047
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:40,200
Speaker 1: to urban takes and you have been spot on. The

1048
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:42,960
Speaker 1: rumors are him and Balky are both gone after the season.

1049
00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:47,120
Speaker 1: Obviously he's already been fired the Jags. Uh, The Jags

1050
00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:49,360
Speaker 1: have got to get the coach right in order to

1051
00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:52,320
Speaker 1: get the most out of Trevor. Most Jacks fans want

1052
00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:55,719
Speaker 1: Byron Leftwich. I personally believe Doug Peterson should be the guy.

1053
00:53:56,280 --> 00:54:00,319
Speaker 1: He brings super Bowl credentials, offensive schemes, and more important Lee.

1054
00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:03,640
Speaker 1: He would seem to get along with Trevor Lawrence Lord,

1055
00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:06,279
Speaker 1: seems to have a quiet confidence, is very coachable like

1056
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:09,640
Speaker 1: Nick Foles, while also having immense talent like Wentz. Do

1057
00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:12,040
Speaker 1: you think Peterson would be a good fit. If not,

1058
00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:14,600
Speaker 1: who do you like for the job? I think you

1059
00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:17,480
Speaker 1: have to interview Doug Peterson because I think Doug is

1060
00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:20,400
Speaker 1: the best of both worlds. He's had success being an

1061
00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:23,120
Speaker 1: o C and a head coach in the NFL at

1062
00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:26,560
Speaker 1: the same time, and he's just a normal guy, Like

1063
00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:28,279
Speaker 1: do you know what the Jacks need? Just kind of

1064
00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:31,840
Speaker 1: a normal personality, Like you don't need to force like culture,

1065
00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:35,160
Speaker 1: culture culture. Sometimes culture just comes with a good guy.

1066
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Speaker 1: You know. They doesn't seem like they have like slaptic players, right,

1067
00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:43,520
Speaker 1: they're players. This roster is not getting in trouble. It

1068
00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:47,640
Speaker 1: felt like Urban Meyer wasn't the bad character guy, which

1069
00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:50,680
Speaker 1: is kind of weird. Usually we always blame the players.

1070
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:52,839
Speaker 1: It's like a family, right, we always blame the kids,

1071
00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:56,680
Speaker 1: sometimes the parents. This one was Urban So that's why

1072
00:54:56,680 --> 00:54:59,040
Speaker 1: I would lean Doug because he's just like a normal

1073
00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:02,120
Speaker 1: guy and they're they're kind of in desperation mode for

1074
00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:06,440
Speaker 1: just someone who can just steady the tide. Now that

1075
00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:09,319
Speaker 1: I think Byron left which is an excellent candidate, But

1076
00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:14,920
Speaker 1: you have a rookie quarterback who your entire franchise hinges on.

1077
00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:17,480
Speaker 1: And he's never been a head coach. Now, he's been

1078
00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:21,360
Speaker 1: around Arians, he's been around Brady. He's a quarterback himself,

1079
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Speaker 1: Like Doug Peterson, I would say those two guys fuel

1080
00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:27,799
Speaker 1: at the top of the list. I would I would

1081
00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:30,879
Speaker 1: lean Doug. I mean again, I know him, but he's

1082
00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:34,759
Speaker 1: just experience, and I think sometimes we overlook experience. Like

1083
00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:37,440
Speaker 1: that's a tough job for Byron Leftwich. You have this

1084
00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:40,960
Speaker 1: number one pick. The team has been just shitty. Division,

1085
00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:43,520
Speaker 1: you got Varabel's got a good team obviously, the culture good.

1086
00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:46,759
Speaker 1: It's not easy. I mean the Texans, what if they

1087
00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:48,560
Speaker 1: just flip some picks and all of a sudden they're

1088
00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:50,920
Speaker 1: a little more competitive. Who knows, maybe they flip Watson

1089
00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:53,160
Speaker 1: and get like five ones and they got their own ones,

1090
00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:59,800
Speaker 1: get weird fast. Um, okay, when on that one and

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Speaker 1: we want to have a great week and uh and yeah,

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Speaker 1: we'll talk Merry Christmas. I guess, like I said, I'll

1093
00:56:06,560 --> 00:56:09,920
Speaker 1: talk to you before Christmas. It's late, it's like nine thirty,

1094
00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:13,760
Speaker 1: just burning midnight, all doing podcasts for the people. Uh.

1095
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:15,600
Speaker 1: And I guess I just like to talk, so it

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Speaker 1: just it's it's it comes easy. Audios, the volume