1 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 1: Mr garbutsch Off teared down this wall. Either you're with 2 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:19,760 Speaker 1: us or you were with the terrorists. If you've got healthcare, 3 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 1: all of it, then you can keep your plan. If 4 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 1: you are satisfied with President, take it to a bank. Together, 5 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:32,880 Speaker 1: we will make America great again. We will never sharender. 6 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 1: It's what you've been waiting for all day. The Buck 7 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 1: Sexton Show joined the conversation called Buck toll free at 8 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:45,480 Speaker 1: eight four four nine hundred Buck. That's eight four four 9 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 1: nine hundred to eight to five the future of talk radio. 10 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 1: Buck Sexton, Welcome to Buck Sexton Show. Everybody, great to 11 00:00:57,280 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 1: have you with me. Thank you so much for joining. 12 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 1: An honor and a privilege to have you with me 13 00:01:02,840 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 1: here in the Freedom Hum We've got quite a show 14 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:11,400 Speaker 1: plan for you. Eight four four eight four eight two five. 15 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 1: Big story everyone's talking about today is the tariffs, the 16 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 1: steel tariffs. So Trump and trade and China, it's all 17 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 1: happening just like just like he said it would, and 18 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 1: now people are getting upset about it. And here's what 19 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 1: the President said. We'll be in imposing tariffs on steel 20 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:43,759 Speaker 1: imports and tariffs on aluminum imports, and you're gonna see 21 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 1: a lot of good things happen. You're gonna see expansions 22 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 1: of the companies. I know that, David, you said you'd 23 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 1: be expanding, Tim, I know you said you were expanding 24 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 1: it all pretty much all of them of you will 25 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 1: immediately be expanding if we give you that level of 26 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 1: playing field and we give you that help. So we 27 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 1: will see how this works out. Now, we'll see if 28 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 1: in fact the President's assessment of the situation with China 29 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 1: and what should be done about it is correct. We've 30 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:14,920 Speaker 1: got Gordon Chang joining us later to discuss that in 31 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 1: more detail. Look, a part of this is that up 32 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 1: until this point, it's been mostly US administrations concerned with 33 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 1: upsetting China, doing anything that would rock the boat on 34 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 1: trade with China. And Trump even pointed out that there 35 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 1: have been some some who came before him in the 36 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 1: White House who really just they didn't have a clue. 37 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 1: People have no idea how badly our country has been 38 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 1: treated by other countries by people representing US that didn't 39 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 1: have a clue, Or if they did, then they should 40 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 1: be ashamed of those guys, because they've destroyed the stale industry, 41 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 1: They've destroyed the illuminum industrict and other industries strictly when 42 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 1: you look at all the lands to car plants, automobile 43 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 1: plants that moved down to Mexico for no reason whatsoever 44 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:07,359 Speaker 1: except we didn't know what we were doing, so we're 45 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 1: bringing it all back. We will see. There are plenty 46 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 1: of conservatives that I'm sure some of you will be 47 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:17,079 Speaker 1: hearing from in the days and weeks ahead. We will 48 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 1: argue that tariffs are inherently state action that favors some 49 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:26,919 Speaker 1: industry at the expense of everyone not in that industry. Now, 50 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 1: in this case, you have the national security considerations of 51 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 1: a domestic steel industry. I get that, some say that's overblown. 52 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 1: With aluminum. Uh, you have some companies that are going 53 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 1: to be upset by this, clearly right, and this will 54 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 1: just be one example of many, But aluminum producers, I 55 00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 1: think this is great domestic alumen bruisers. But if you're Anheuser, 56 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 1: Bush or Coca Cola, you will not think this is 57 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 1: great because your cost of business is going to go 58 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 1: up as a result of it. Um interesting though, that 59 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 1: those who will always claim that the government shouldn't be 60 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 1: picking winners and losers often failed to take into account. 61 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 1: This is just my feeling on these things. Well, I 62 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 1: guess I'm doing a radio show, so all this is 63 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 1: my feeling on things. Um. But the government is already 64 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 1: always picking winners and losers with the way that it 65 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:18,280 Speaker 1: regulates and manages the economy. It's a question how much 66 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 1: and who the winners are, who the losers are with 67 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 1: regard to a global marketplace. Now, so this will now 68 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:29,159 Speaker 1: be put to the test because the market dropped four 69 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:32,280 Speaker 1: hundred plus points or so. People are concerned about this 70 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 1: one but one one day market dropped because people get 71 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 1: spooked about what's going to happen in a possible trade 72 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 1: war with China. You can't you can't take too much 73 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:46,840 Speaker 1: away from just what the market does on anyone given day. 74 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 1: But Trump is hey, he's keeping promises, folks. To those 75 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 1: of you who are like I want I want the 76 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 1: Trump agenda, I want him to do what he said 77 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 1: he was going to do. That is certainly that is 78 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 1: certainly happening right now. This is part of what he 79 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 1: has been pushing for for quite some time. But I 80 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 1: want to revisit something from yesterday now as well as 81 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 1: you have the departure, And I was joking around a 82 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:12,599 Speaker 1: little bit about how I'm pro hope and we should 83 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:16,480 Speaker 1: give Hope a chance and don't don't let don't let 84 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:20,920 Speaker 1: Hope disappear and all that. I've never heard her speak, 85 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:24,039 Speaker 1: and I don't know her, um I. All I know 86 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 1: about her is what I've read. I do know, however, 87 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:30,280 Speaker 1: that there was something something funky about the whole situation. 88 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 1: There was something wrong with what had gone on in 89 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:40,159 Speaker 1: this case, and none other other than than than the mooch. 90 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 1: A the mooch. He was over at CNN and he's 91 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:50,040 Speaker 1: had the following. The current situation and the current culture 92 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 1: inside the administration stays exactly the way it is. There's 93 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:56,719 Speaker 1: literally no change. There will be a lot more departures. Yeah, 94 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:58,920 Speaker 1: the morale is at an all time low, and it's 95 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:03,599 Speaker 1: trending lower now. I know a lot of people will 96 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:07,359 Speaker 1: say that the problems in the White House are of 97 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:10,160 Speaker 1: dysfunction of the people they've brought in. Some of them 98 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 1: lack necessary government experience, which that that has been true 99 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 1: in some cases, folks. I'm not gonna lie to you. 100 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:18,600 Speaker 1: There have been some people brought in with this administration 101 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 1: who just couldn't do it. They were the wrong choice. 102 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 1: And I don't think that now the administration is not 103 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 1: going to publicly kick people after you kick people in 104 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:28,719 Speaker 1: the butt once they've already been shown the door, right, 105 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 1: So there's no point in saying that. But there have 106 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:33,840 Speaker 1: been people that were not up for the task they 107 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:37,719 Speaker 1: were initially assigned. That is just a fact. Uh. That's said. 108 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 1: If the morale is so low on the White House, 109 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:43,479 Speaker 1: if things are so bad, it's not just because or 110 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 1: even primarily because of decision making much John Kelly anyone else. 111 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:52,479 Speaker 1: It is because it has become a clear plan, a 112 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:56,360 Speaker 1: clear plot in the media. Two as I was saying yesterday, 113 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 1: isolate and destroy each and every person in the trump 114 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:02,919 Speaker 1: Ward bit. And that is why they love the Mueller 115 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 1: probe so much. That is also a major major issue here. 116 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 1: They're never gonna find this Russia collusion because it didn't exist. 117 00:07:12,360 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 1: The whole thing is preposterous. But I can't call it 118 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 1: a joke because it's a very effective tool of politics 119 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 1: for the Democrats. The process is the punishment it costs 120 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 1: for some people tens of thousands of dollars just for 121 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 1: one appearance in terms of legal fees, which some folks 122 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 1: brought into this have to pay themselves to sit before Mueller, 123 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 1: to sit before you know, House Intelligence Committee or whatever 124 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 1: the case may be. Um, that's a big that's a 125 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 1: big problem. That's something that doesn't get factored into much 126 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 1: of the analysis on TV about whether or not this 127 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 1: was This whole Mueller probe is ethical, whether it's justified 128 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 1: or not. Democrats love it because how how would you 129 00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 1: like to be somebody in the White House right now 130 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 1: who has any relevant knowledge whatsoever of the Trump campaign 131 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 1: and Trump situation. You may get called behind closed doors, 132 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 1: as Hope Picks did, and it seems to me ambushed. 133 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 1: I thought this was the case as soon as I 134 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 1: saw the initial reporting, but she was testifying before the 135 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 1: House Intelligence Committee, I think, for nine hours. And this 136 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 1: was a setup, folks. It was a setup, just like 137 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:34,960 Speaker 1: remember how they got Flynn was a leak, and now 138 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 1: we're finding out that some people in the FBI didn't 139 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:40,719 Speaker 1: even think he lied. So someone broke the law to 140 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 1: leak to get Flynn. And then we're seeing, well, I 141 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 1: don't have tant to go through every administration figure that's 142 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 1: been pushed out by in one way or another, but 143 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 1: look at how many other departures have had a at 144 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 1: least the media's fingerprints on them. If not, they were 145 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:01,559 Speaker 1: the whole thing, right, they will. They were the fuse 146 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 1: and the charge. They were the ones that initiated the 147 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:10,560 Speaker 1: series of events or the political news cycle that got 148 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:13,680 Speaker 1: the departure going. And with Hope Pix, what we saw 149 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 1: was based on the reporting today. You had a Democrat. 150 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 1: Democrats on the House Intellience Committee, we're asking, asked a 151 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:25,200 Speaker 1: question after nine hours of interrogation. Okay, after nine hours, 152 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 1: Democrats asked, what have you ever had? Has your boss, 153 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:34,080 Speaker 1: the president, ever told you to lie? And she conferred 154 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 1: with her Look, I just read this assessment of today. 155 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 1: She conferred with her lawyer, and sure enough, the response 156 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:44,560 Speaker 1: that she gave or initially was well, are we talking 157 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 1: about any kind of lie? Like if if Trump says, 158 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:49,960 Speaker 1: do I look fat in this? Do I have to 159 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 1: give him an honest answer? If someone says is the 160 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 1: President busy and I had to lie to protect his time? 161 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:57,200 Speaker 1: Does that does that count? I mean, this is what 162 00:09:57,240 --> 00:10:00,680 Speaker 1: I read today. It was the other part of the 163 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:05,200 Speaker 1: story that initially wasn't wasn't shared. And to give an 164 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 1: answer so as not to lie in her own she said, well, yeah, sometimes, 165 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 1: I mean I've told little I've told white lies. And 166 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:13,079 Speaker 1: they pounced on this. They leaked it right away to 167 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 1: the media. They pounced on it. Oh she's a liar. 168 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 1: Trump's a liar. They're all liars. Lie lie, lie. And 169 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 1: she was planning on leaving anyway because of the pressure. 170 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:24,679 Speaker 1: Maggie Haberman of The New York Times was reporting that 171 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 1: despite everything everyone saying about the Russia probe, but even 172 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:31,680 Speaker 1: apart from whether it instigated her to this specific incident 173 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:33,960 Speaker 1: instigated her departure, It just goes to show you what 174 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 1: is going on here, whether it's the Democrats in Congress 175 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 1: or the media, which is really just the public extension 176 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 1: of the Democrat agenda, they are taking people out. They 177 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:51,199 Speaker 1: have a political hit list, and they are removing people 178 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 1: from this administration as quickly as they can. It is 179 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 1: an embattled, an embattled White House, and not because of 180 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:04,840 Speaker 1: the leunges of global national security policy, not because they 181 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 1: can't handle the economy. No, not that that stuff is 182 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 1: actually going pretty well. Seeing some of the successes flashing 183 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 1: on the screen of Fox News a second ago, you know, 184 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 1: tax reform, keyston XL pipeline, Neil Gorcich, right, Trump is 185 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 1: getting regardless of the process and what is expected when 186 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 1: we're talking about things like the personnel around him. Trump 187 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:34,679 Speaker 1: is getting it done, and yet they just think if 188 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 1: they can isolate him enough and make it as uncomfortable 189 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 1: as possible to be an employee of this White House, 190 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 1: to serve your country as an employe of this White House, 191 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 1: that is a victory for the left. It's a shame. 192 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:49,560 Speaker 1: It's a shame. But but more to the point, also 193 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 1: this Muller stuff, this investigation now, whether it's Muller or 194 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 1: the Democrats in the House Intelligence Committee, it seems to 195 00:11:57,240 --> 00:11:59,200 Speaker 1: me that it exists mostly for leaks to see an 196 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:03,320 Speaker 1: N and MSNB and the major newspapers, The Times, Washington Post, 197 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 1: that's become the m O and it it maybe now 198 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 1: is really the only reason for their existence. It is 199 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 1: the rat is the reason for being of these investigations, 200 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 1: so that we can read day in and day out. 201 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 1: Oh they're looking at Kusher now. Oh they're talking to 202 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 1: Ivanka now, Oh they're talking just all these leaks to 203 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 1: feed this insanity. I was just speaking to a friend 204 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:33,079 Speaker 1: yesterday affair of a very good buddy, but just speaking 205 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 1: to him about what's going on, and and he came, 206 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:37,679 Speaker 1: I mean he's kind of a he's a centrist who 207 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:40,840 Speaker 1: leans right. I'd say he's a right leaning centrist, not 208 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 1: a not a staunch Republican, not a you know, I 209 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 1: guess he would say I'm a hardcore conservative. I think 210 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 1: I'm just buck. I'm kind of an odd duck. But 211 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 1: he's just like, you know, I'm really noticing something among 212 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:55,439 Speaker 1: my friends and among people. He went to a very 213 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:58,680 Speaker 1: fancy school. He's an Ivy League guy, noticing people, noticing 214 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:01,880 Speaker 1: something among people that when it comes to Trump, they've 215 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 1: really lost their minds, and very educated, very um well 216 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:11,959 Speaker 1: respected people within different communities have just lost it. And 217 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 1: I think that's true of a lot of journalists. We 218 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:17,440 Speaker 1: discussed Trump arrangement syndrome. It's a real thing. It's a 219 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 1: real thing, and it's troubling to me the glee with 220 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 1: which the media greets every departure now from this White House, 221 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:27,080 Speaker 1: because whether like it or not, Trump is still the 222 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:31,320 Speaker 1: president and we want there to be very good people 223 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 1: in roles like well National Security Council and National Security 224 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:40,960 Speaker 1: Advisor and all all that, all that White House communications, 225 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 1: all the things that need to get staffed at that level. 226 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 1: But they're making it hard. It's part of the obstruction, 227 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:50,199 Speaker 1: it's part of the never Trump is um and hashtag 228 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:56,200 Speaker 1: resistance mentality, and it's just we're gonna suffer because of it. 229 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:58,960 Speaker 1: It's a shame, it really is um. By the way 230 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:02,679 Speaker 1: I I had, I'm gonna try hard today to get 231 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 1: us on a whole bunch of topics, including China Russia 232 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 1: putin saying that there are invincible nuclear missiles that they have. 233 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 1: Now will get into some of that. We've got some 234 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:13,640 Speaker 1: special guests joining us today in the third hour of 235 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 1: the show, But I want to make sure that we 236 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 1: mix up the topics a bit a bit here and 237 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 1: not just get onto, you know, the latest with the 238 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 1: campaign against the n RA and gun control. But there 239 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 1: was a really interesting, worthwhile series of articles I've read 240 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 1: in the last day or so on how when I 241 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 1: talk about systemic law enforcement failure leading up to the 242 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 1: shooting in Florida, that's clearly true. But when you drill 243 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 1: down into what's going on in Broward County, and I 244 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 1: saw this a week ago, and I was trying to 245 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 1: verify it. When you drill down into what happened in 246 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 1: Broward County specifically with that Sheriff's office and the policies 247 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 1: in place, uh, it's a situation where I can tell 248 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 1: you that with everything we know, FBI missing the tips, 249 00:14:56,840 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 1: FBI missing the detailed explanation of the likelihood of Nicolas 250 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 1: Cruz becoming a shooter, the dozens of calls to Nicolas 251 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:06,600 Speaker 1: Cruz house by for local law enforcement, and then the 252 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 1: sheriff's deputies not entering the facility where the shooting was happening, 253 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 1: the building of shooting is happening at the very first opportunity. 254 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:17,480 Speaker 1: With all of that, I've said to you, I just 255 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 1: don't know how it can get worse. You know what, 256 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 1: it does get worse because when you look at what 257 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 1: Broward Counties Sheriff Sheriff Scott Israel did as a matter 258 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 1: of policy in that county, not only is it alone 259 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 1: a scandal, but it may in fact have had a 260 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 1: direct and negative impact on the likelihood of the Nicolas 261 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 1: Cruz shooting happening in the first place. I'll have to 262 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 1: explain it a bit, and if you stay with me, 263 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 1: I will, so don't go anywhere. I'll be right back. 264 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:51,040 Speaker 1: The second issue we identified is that even in law enforcement, 265 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 1: school administrators or family members believe that an individual post 266 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 1: is the risk of committing an act of violence they 267 00:15:57,400 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 1: have very few options to prevent them from purchasing any 268 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 1: gun or taking the guns away that they already have. Therefore, 269 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 1: I intend to present a new law, perhaps in coordination 270 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 1: and others that are working on it now, that will 271 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 1: lead to the creation of gun violence restraining orders, something 272 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 1: that will give law enforcement and close family members the 273 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 1: option of obtaining a court order to prevent gun sales 274 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 1: or remove guns from individuals who pose a threat. I 275 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 1: have been a proponent of this from the beginning. I 276 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 1: think that if we're going to try to take steps 277 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 1: to mitigate the threat right to lessen the likelihood of 278 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 1: a school shooting, gun violence restraining order is completely assuming 279 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 1: it's crafted properly and there's there is due process. And 280 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 1: I knew this, yes, Okay, Trump stumbled when he said 281 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 1: we take the guns first. He got a little out 282 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 1: of his skis, but obviously not going to do that. 283 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 1: But a gun violence restraining order would be exactly what 284 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 1: it sounds like. If somebody like Nicholas Cruz is saying 285 00:16:57,080 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 1: I'm going to go shoot people and I'm going to 286 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 1: do bad things, um that that could be presented to 287 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:06,879 Speaker 1: a judge and then that individual could be both have 288 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 1: his firearms taken from him or her, but pretty much 289 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 1: always a him right or perhaps indefinitely banned from purchasing 290 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 1: or getting a firearm, and there would be a legal 291 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 1: process for those who go in front of a judge, 292 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 1: and you know that would be that. Um. I think 293 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:25,960 Speaker 1: this is a I think this is a good idea. 294 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 1: I would also note that, as some others have been 295 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:30,200 Speaker 1: pointing out, and we're gonna get into this more right 296 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:33,680 Speaker 1: after the break, you know, threatened to kill somebody's actually 297 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:36,360 Speaker 1: a felony. And when we're looking at the law law 298 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 1: force and not doing anything, I'm starting to wonder at 299 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 1: what point his threats, his specific threats, Nicolas cruzes to 300 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 1: commit violence, commit acts of violence, we're really not actionable. 301 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 1: Um I I wonder if that is really a fair 302 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:58,200 Speaker 1: assessment of what went on there, because I'm pretty sure 303 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:01,200 Speaker 1: that under different circumstances of somebody had posted at a 304 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 1: threat and the FBI was called and they thought it 305 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 1: was real, you'd be you'd be in a whole lot 306 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 1: of trouble. Um, You've been a whole lot of trouble. 307 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 1: So the gun Violence Restraining Order is I think the 308 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 1: best single policy change that I've heard of um and 309 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 1: and as you know, I'm I am skeptical of any 310 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 1: of the actions that are really getting a lot of 311 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 1: attention right now preventing attacks, preventing school shootings. I also 312 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 1: think that we are in a in a frenzy and 313 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 1: a hysteria right now about school shootings that overstates the threat. 314 00:18:38,840 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna tell you, I think the threat is 315 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 1: overstated right now when when people are telling me that 316 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 1: we need to put highly trained armed security person, I'm 317 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 1: hearing this from a lot of folks in over two 318 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:55,200 Speaker 1: hundred thousand schools. Uh. I think that we've gone beyond 319 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:58,919 Speaker 1: what the threat what the threat is, and we are 320 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:05,160 Speaker 1: giving into an intentional campaign of fearmongering by the left. 321 00:19:06,040 --> 00:19:08,359 Speaker 1: And I don't like it. I disagree with it. But 322 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:09,639 Speaker 1: there's another thing that I need to talk to you 323 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 1: about on that is the Broward County school policy when 324 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:17,439 Speaker 1: it comes to policing schools in Broward County and what 325 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 1: the Sheriff's department there got into and what it was 326 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:23,719 Speaker 1: up to. There's been some very interesting research done on this, 327 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:27,919 Speaker 1: and here's the short version. Looks like the Broward County 328 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:33,160 Speaker 1: sheriff was even more responsible and more inept more responsible 329 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:37,480 Speaker 1: for the disaster than we thought. Team Early on in 330 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:41,399 Speaker 1: the aftermath of the Florida shooting, I saw the first 331 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 1: of what seemed to be somewhat conspiratorial postings about the 332 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:55,160 Speaker 1: actions of the Broward County sheriff Department. Now they weren't 333 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:58,440 Speaker 1: unbelievable claims out of hand, but it seemed a little 334 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:06,200 Speaker 1: little murky citations. The sources weren't great, but it was 335 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:11,639 Speaker 1: a narrative that struck me as plausible, and it was 336 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:16,400 Speaker 1: certainly one also that you couldn't turn to the mainstream 337 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 1: outlets to put much time into uncovering because it would 338 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:23,879 Speaker 1: take away from their primary narrative, which is the n 339 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 1: r A, which had nothing to do with the floor shooting. 340 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:29,440 Speaker 1: N RA is the bad guy here. I've heard more 341 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:32,160 Speaker 1: about the n r A than Nicholas Cruz at this point, 342 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:35,680 Speaker 1: which is a disgrace, but that is true. I've heard 343 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:37,680 Speaker 1: more in the media about the n r A than 344 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:44,919 Speaker 1: the actual evil doer in this case who killed seventeen people. Ah. 345 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:47,920 Speaker 1: But this storyline that I came across, and actually it 346 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 1: was brought to my attention by some of you, and 347 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:51,639 Speaker 1: I really do mean it when I say this is 348 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:55,960 Speaker 1: a team effort. I've gotten so much great information, both 349 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 1: personal information. Some of you have been you're listening, have 350 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 1: been sources in the past, and some of you listening 351 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:05,639 Speaker 1: have pushed me to other sources and and places to 352 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 1: get information that have been essential for this show. I 353 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 1: had the advantage of not rushing on the air with 354 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 1: just whatever everybody else is saying. I have the data 355 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:18,399 Speaker 1: to research and think and pull things together. You know, 356 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 1: if you just want the kind of bare bones, superficial headlines, 357 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:23,959 Speaker 1: are plenty of places to give you that. I spend 358 00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 1: all day. I marinate in my analysis if you will 359 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:29,919 Speaker 1: before I come on the air, and you are a 360 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 1: very important part of that process. Team. You help spice 361 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 1: it up, and sometimes you are absolutely essential with the 362 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:40,160 Speaker 1: information you bring to my attention. So don't ever feel 363 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 1: like I and I know a lot of you semi 364 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:44,440 Speaker 1: stuff on Facebook, you semi stuff on Twitter. I read, 365 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 1: I read it all. I can't always respond, especially if 366 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:50,919 Speaker 1: you're welcome to write. Some of you write twelve words 367 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 1: or more. Sometimes that's fine, I'll read it. I just 368 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 1: can't respond with twelve hundred words or else. M Molly 369 00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:58,960 Speaker 1: is She's not gonna be She's not gonna wait for 370 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 1: a ring. She's gonna be com me so um. Here's 371 00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 1: the storyline, though for Broward County Sheriff's bark is very ah. 372 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 1: It is a stunning indictment of what was really going 373 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 1: on there. The storyline was that the Sheriff's department, in 374 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 1: cooperation with the school system there, had decided that it 375 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:28,359 Speaker 1: would be both serving the needs of social justice and 376 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:34,320 Speaker 1: serving their own parochial political needs right their own near 377 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:39,879 Speaker 1: term benefits and prospects if they were to find a 378 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 1: way to make sure that there were less arrests of 379 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:48,160 Speaker 1: juveniles and Broward County, and that this became a policy 380 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:51,920 Speaker 1: that was agreed upon at the highest level, so at 381 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:56,399 Speaker 1: the level of uh Sheriff Scott Israel himself and also 382 00:22:56,480 --> 00:23:02,679 Speaker 1: brought together the chief of the Fort Lauderdale Police Department, 383 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:07,480 Speaker 1: the superintendent of schools, you know, a whole a whole 384 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:11,480 Speaker 1: bunch of different organizations here that decided that it would 385 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 1: be best if they changed the way that policing was 386 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:21,200 Speaker 1: done when it came specifically to that's right, juveniles, teenagers. 387 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 1: We're going back and looking at what happened with Nicholas Cruz. 388 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 1: Why didn't they take more action why wasn't more going on? Well, 389 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 1: this is certainly one explanation for it. And like I said, 390 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 1: I didn't until I saw the sourcing. And now it's 391 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 1: come out because people have dug into Miami Herald articles 392 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:40,680 Speaker 1: and other other newspaper articles that weren't putting together all 393 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 1: these pieces. But we're establishing some of the basic facts 394 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 1: necessary for this theory to be true. So you had 395 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 1: Sheriff Israel's department deciding that they would give a whole 396 00:23:56,560 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 1: lot more citations and end the school to prison pipeline. 397 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 1: Less arrests of juveniles. This would serve a whole bunch 398 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 1: of different purposes. Less arrests looks good for the school district, 399 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:12,000 Speaker 1: because why do you have so many kids who are 400 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 1: either not just engaged in truancy, but also engaged in 401 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:17,960 Speaker 1: a legal activity outside of the schools. So that doesn't 402 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 1: look good. Schools, no surprise, our social justice factories in 403 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:27,200 Speaker 1: these are public schools in Broward County, and the administrators 404 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:35,440 Speaker 1: and the various superintendent and other school officials wanted to 405 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 1: be able to say that there were less arrests of students. 406 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 1: The Sheriff's department wanted to point to the drop in 407 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 1: arrests and say, hold on a second, we're doing a 408 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:51,120 Speaker 1: great job. Here. See how many fewer arrests there are 409 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:54,879 Speaker 1: of juveniles and Broward County. This is for those of 410 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 1: you who remember the the incredible show The Wire, written 411 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 1: by David Simon, right, executive reser. I think that's what 412 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 1: it was. Uh, The Wire is a great show. I 413 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:08,119 Speaker 1: highly recommended if you haven't seen it. But this is 414 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:09,920 Speaker 1: a very similar to scheme to what you see in 415 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:11,959 Speaker 1: The Wire. And it's true of a lot of different 416 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:16,119 Speaker 1: a lot of different government bureaucracies, including law, enforce and 417 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:20,439 Speaker 1: once across the country that the fastest way to show 418 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:24,919 Speaker 1: results is to change the data that gives you the results. 419 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:29,159 Speaker 1: Don't make don't make a county safer, just change the 420 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:32,480 Speaker 1: way you count safety in the county. Oh, I would 421 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:36,359 Speaker 1: note the Obama administration did this on immigration. Oh yeah, 422 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:39,879 Speaker 1: that's right. There's Obama was the deporter in chief. They 423 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:42,159 Speaker 1: were saying, oh, he's deporting so many people, when in fact, 424 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:46,880 Speaker 1: what they did and this was a an active, active policy. 425 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:49,359 Speaker 1: This was a decision they made. If you were caught 426 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 1: at the border and turned around, they were going to 427 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:57,680 Speaker 1: count that as a deportation. Whereas previously have been considered 428 00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 1: a denial of entry or I forget what the specific 429 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 1: terminology was, but they made it so that the numbers 430 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 1: would look bigger. They're doing more deportations than they actually were. 431 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 1: Similar thing at work here. You have far too many 432 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:17,880 Speaker 1: juveniles engaged in crime, and so what they decided to do, 433 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:20,479 Speaker 1: and you know gang activity, we're talking about sixteen seventeen 434 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:24,680 Speaker 1: year olds. What they decided to do was tell the 435 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:27,919 Speaker 1: sheriff's department that they're gonna have a new approach to 436 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 1: public safety and they're going to reduce the crime rate, 437 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:34,679 Speaker 1: the burglary rate, and the way to do that is 438 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 1: by saying that kids stay in school, We're not going 439 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 1: to arrest kids for violent behavior. We're just going to 440 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 1: issue citations. And they were going to push this notion 441 00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:47,000 Speaker 1: of citations and then they would say, look look at 442 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,199 Speaker 1: how what a great job we're doing in Brower County 443 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 1: because of the drop in violent crime, when in reality, 444 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:57,160 Speaker 1: they just were saying there were fewer arrests for burglary, larceny, 445 00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 1: assault because sheriffs are being told if seventeen year old, 446 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,119 Speaker 1: you know, punch of somebody or Rob's you know, Rob's 447 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:08,680 Speaker 1: a liquor store or something. Give him a citation, don't 448 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 1: arrest him and process him. You can imagine what that 449 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:17,199 Speaker 1: did to the actual crimes in the in the county. 450 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:19,320 Speaker 1: That is not That is not a good way to 451 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:22,480 Speaker 1: go about not a good way to go about your 452 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:27,040 Speaker 1: law enforcement tactics. It has also come out that Sheriff 453 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:32,359 Speaker 1: Israel was using the department as a it's just political machine, 454 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:35,959 Speaker 1: old school political machine. He was hiring people who are 455 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:40,000 Speaker 1: doing outreach, who were really just campaigning for him and 456 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:44,960 Speaker 1: creating deeper roots for him in the community for the 457 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:48,920 Speaker 1: purposes of re election. Because he's an elected he's an 458 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:51,200 Speaker 1: elected official. I think people forget that that guy is 459 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:56,600 Speaker 1: an elected official, Sheriff Sheriff Israel. Uh. And now when 460 00:27:56,600 --> 00:28:00,080 Speaker 1: people start to see this, and there have been a 461 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:04,159 Speaker 1: bunch of different websites that have pulled us together. Sarah 462 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:07,919 Speaker 1: rump Over at Red State did and Coulters syndicated column 463 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:11,400 Speaker 1: this week is just on this issue. Her columns held 464 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:15,720 Speaker 1: the school to mass murder pipeline and she's pointing it 465 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:17,800 Speaker 1: out and it's there. I saw it last week and 466 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:19,480 Speaker 1: I was trying to track it down. Actually reach out 467 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:20,960 Speaker 1: to a friend of mine, a couple of friends of 468 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 1: mine in Florida said, you know, do you no need 469 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:25,240 Speaker 1: journalists who could give me a little background on this 470 00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 1: or anyone who could add a little meet to the 471 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 1: bones of these theories or of this theory. And sure 472 00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:33,920 Speaker 1: enough others called called wind this as well, because this 473 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 1: was out there. This was out there, and no one 474 00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:41,280 Speaker 1: wanted to run with it right away because it seemed like, well, 475 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:46,360 Speaker 1: there's some there's some elements in different stories that support this. 476 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:49,040 Speaker 1: But what end up happening was a sheriff's department became 477 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 1: a social justice political organization that was much more concerned 478 00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 1: with the stats and the perception of safety than the 479 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:03,880 Speaker 1: actual implementation and of safety, particularly with regard to juveniles 480 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 1: teenage offenders. Why does that matter Because Nicholas Cruse was 481 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:15,280 Speaker 1: a multiple, multiple time, dozens of calls teenage offender, and 482 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:20,080 Speaker 1: it is it stands to me at least perfectly reasonable 483 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 1: to believe that if they had had a different approach 484 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:28,720 Speaker 1: to dealing with possibly violent teenagers in Broward County, there 485 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 1: may have been a different outcome with Nicholas Cruz. This 486 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:35,760 Speaker 1: has been the theory all along. Now there's evidence to 487 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:39,080 Speaker 1: support it. Now there there's a lot of people have 488 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:42,840 Speaker 1: been going through the public documents and looking for that. 489 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:44,800 Speaker 1: As I mentioned, I think Sarah Rump a red state. 490 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:50,320 Speaker 1: And Sheriff Israel was at one point bragging, bragging about 491 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:53,480 Speaker 1: telling his deputies that they were not to arrest juveniles, 492 00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:57,040 Speaker 1: and he cited the quote dramatic drop in violent crime 493 00:29:57,120 --> 00:30:00,160 Speaker 1: during his tenure and the issuing of thousands of all 494 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 1: citations rather than arrest for juveniles specifically, So how do 495 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:07,000 Speaker 1: you how do you make people think you're doing a 496 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:11,080 Speaker 1: good job in Broward County? For Sheriff Israel, You change 497 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 1: who you arrest and that's all you have to do. 498 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:21,600 Speaker 1: You make the decision that you're going to release juveniles 499 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:24,600 Speaker 1: with just essentially a warning, right with a citation instead, 500 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:27,000 Speaker 1: I mean, I guess citation you gotta pay or show up, 501 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:30,960 Speaker 1: but no more arrests. And oh, you get to feel 502 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,960 Speaker 1: like a community leader and somebody who's socially justice aware 503 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:37,400 Speaker 1: because what else is a part of this, Oh, a 504 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:43,520 Speaker 1: disproportioned impact of juvenile arrests on minorities in the Broward community. 505 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:46,320 Speaker 1: So you looked like a social justice hero, you being 506 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:50,880 Speaker 1: Sheriff Israel who was dropping the crime rate. Meanwhile people 507 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:53,600 Speaker 1: were actually suffering. Crime was happening. And oh, by the way, 508 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,280 Speaker 1: Nicholas Cruz was able to have the cops called to 509 00:30:56,360 --> 00:31:00,080 Speaker 1: his house dozens of times without any real act and 510 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:04,040 Speaker 1: taken against him. And we are led to believe that 511 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:05,800 Speaker 1: there was nothing that law enforcem could have done the 512 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:10,720 Speaker 1: situation that was better or that could have stopped it. 513 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:14,400 Speaker 1: So this what started out as a conspiracy theory that 514 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:16,520 Speaker 1: does make its way around the internet. Some of my 515 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:21,080 Speaker 1: fellow conservative analysts have looked at it, pulled together the 516 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:25,400 Speaker 1: data and it's it's true. It is true. There was cronyism, 517 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:36,040 Speaker 1: there was politicization and ineptitude lies at the Broward County 518 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 1: Sheriff's Department that were it was a systemic issue, systemic. 519 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 1: So I just wanted to add that to our discussion 520 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:45,280 Speaker 1: of everything that had happened in Florida. And with that, 521 00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 1: I will take if you want to, if you've got 522 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:49,800 Speaker 1: any thoughts. Is, by the wayf any of you lived 523 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:51,280 Speaker 1: down in Brower. I know we've got a lot of 524 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:54,800 Speaker 1: Florida listeners and you live in Broward County, would really 525 00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:56,560 Speaker 1: be curious to hear if you have any experience with 526 00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:58,840 Speaker 1: this or if you live in a jurisdiction where you 527 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,600 Speaker 1: think something similar has a heard, where they've changed the 528 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:06,800 Speaker 1: way they count statistics about arrests or the way or 529 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 1: they change what they're willing to arrest people for. One 530 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:11,320 Speaker 1: of the big things that got me mad here in 531 00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:14,640 Speaker 1: New York City reviously was I found out that, uh, 532 00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:20,400 Speaker 1: build a Blasio. Who you guys, are anyone listening any 533 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:22,600 Speaker 1: of the country unless maybe you're in you're in Chicago, 534 00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:25,400 Speaker 1: San Francisco or l A. I feel like we have 535 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:28,480 Speaker 1: a worse mayor than you. Um, I think we have 536 00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:31,840 Speaker 1: a worse mayor than you. The guy is a clown, 537 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:35,600 Speaker 1: but he made the decision that told the police department 538 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:38,080 Speaker 1: here on YPD that they're not going to arrest people 539 00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 1: for public urination anymore. I remember growing up and when 540 00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:44,680 Speaker 1: the city in the bad old days, and it was 541 00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:46,600 Speaker 1: really bad. When I was growing up here. It was 542 00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 1: actually the worst in it ever was was in the 543 00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:51,040 Speaker 1: early nineties when I was a kind of young teenager 544 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:55,320 Speaker 1: and people would just, you know, they would you'd come 545 00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:58,680 Speaker 1: home and there'll be somebody who was you know, right 546 00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:01,200 Speaker 1: on the front step and just what happened all the time. 547 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:05,000 Speaker 1: It was disgusting. It was disgrace and de Blasi. I 548 00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:06,880 Speaker 1: was like, yeah, it's kind of mean to arrest people 549 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,320 Speaker 1: for for, you know, urinating on the street in public, 550 00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:11,720 Speaker 1: So we're not going to do that anymore. This is 551 00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:14,920 Speaker 1: what social justice gets you, my friends, and this is 552 00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:18,760 Speaker 1: what the left belief is going to advanced the common good. 553 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:23,239 Speaker 1: And in Broward it was I think disastrous. If any 554 00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:24,840 Speaker 1: of you listening have any ideas on that, let me 555 00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:29,720 Speaker 1: know eight four five eight four Buck gonna be a 556 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:31,680 Speaker 1: switching up topics here in just a second, so stay 557 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:33,600 Speaker 1: with me, all right, team, let's take some calls. We 558 00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:40,880 Speaker 1: have Matthew in Nebraska. Hey Matthew, Hey Buck, thanks for 559 00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:44,280 Speaker 1: having me on. I've been listening to your podcast most 560 00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:47,000 Speaker 1: of the time. I just wanted to mention that there's 561 00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:51,480 Speaker 1: been a program in place since in a couple of 562 00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:54,880 Speaker 1: different states including Ohio and Colorado and a few others 563 00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:58,440 Speaker 1: that have not been named, called the Faster Program, and 564 00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:03,720 Speaker 1: it trains teachers to confront an armed attacker and trauma 565 00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:09,240 Speaker 1: management to try and save as main kids lives as possible. Yeah, 566 00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:11,960 Speaker 1: I'm I'm all, I'm all fine with the training, and 567 00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:15,800 Speaker 1: I actually like the idea of concealed carry for personnel 568 00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:18,000 Speaker 1: in schools who want to have it. I just think 569 00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:21,600 Speaker 1: the notion of a of a uniformed defense force or 570 00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:24,320 Speaker 1: some kind of official defense force for all schools based 571 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:26,800 Speaker 1: on the number of shootings and the number of honestly 572 00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:29,440 Speaker 1: that the number of shootings are really talking about, is 573 00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:33,799 Speaker 1: not the not the appropriate solution to the problem. Oh, 574 00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:36,240 Speaker 1: I totally agree. I I used to go to school 575 00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:39,200 Speaker 1: ten years ago with the school that had a resource officer, 576 00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:41,759 Speaker 1: and we all knew where their office was and their 577 00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:45,200 Speaker 1: rough schedule moving around the building. But having teachers who 578 00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:48,160 Speaker 1: you don't know are armed are probably the best way 579 00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:52,000 Speaker 1: to confront an attacker that slipped through every hole like 580 00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:54,920 Speaker 1: we had in Partlet Yeah, and by the way, as 581 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:56,759 Speaker 1: as soon as you have the first teacher you have 582 00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:59,160 Speaker 1: who has an a D and literally shoots some literally 583 00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:01,560 Speaker 1: shoots himself and a foot, I mean, that'll be a 584 00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:04,080 Speaker 1: national news story. And if you were to put thousands 585 00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:06,719 Speaker 1: of teachers, you know it's gonna happen at some point. 586 00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,480 Speaker 1: I always remember that video of I forget I think 587 00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:11,279 Speaker 1: it was a I forget, I think it was a 588 00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:13,640 Speaker 1: D A agent. It was on YouTube where he's showing 589 00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:15,399 Speaker 1: a class is glock. Do you know what I'm talking 590 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:20,240 Speaker 1: about and oh yeah, there's been many instances where somebody 591 00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:23,719 Speaker 1: who should know what they do completely messes up and 592 00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:27,359 Speaker 1: puts a shop somewhere they weren't put through his back 593 00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:28,799 Speaker 1: and that guy pulling through his knee, I think in 594 00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:31,520 Speaker 1: a classroom full of kids. It's gotten millions and millions 595 00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:33,000 Speaker 1: of views on YouTube, and they show it in gun 596 00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:34,720 Speaker 1: safety class. I mean I was in a gun safety 597 00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:37,319 Speaker 1: class and they showed that clip. So somebody told me 598 00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:38,919 Speaker 1: that guy tried to sue. By the way, I tried 599 00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:41,240 Speaker 1: to sue either the school or the news or somebody, 600 00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:43,719 Speaker 1: but he didn't win. But Matthew, if they want to 601 00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:46,440 Speaker 1: get but federal, you know, federal air marshals. I don't 602 00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:49,400 Speaker 1: believe a federal air marshal has actually foiled a terrorist 603 00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:53,399 Speaker 1: or any kind of violent plot aboard an airplane since 604 00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:57,480 Speaker 1: nine eleven. I don't think that's happened. True. But right 605 00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:00,640 Speaker 1: now we have this program in place and it's a charity. 606 00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:04,520 Speaker 1: So what's the name of the program again, the faster program. 607 00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:07,960 Speaker 1: I have to look at this one. Yeah, yeah, Pastor 608 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:11,759 Speaker 1: Saves Lives dot org five or one three, and it 609 00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:15,160 Speaker 1: trains teachers. It's been in place after the Sandy Hooks 610 00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:18,560 Speaker 1: shooting started out in Ohio. There's another version in Colorado, 611 00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:23,120 Speaker 1: and they're even training teachers in other states. I'm in 612 00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:25,239 Speaker 1: favorite say the same reason why, Matthew. You know, it's 613 00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:27,120 Speaker 1: it's good to know how to defend yourself with you know, 614 00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:28,920 Speaker 1: if you can, you know, with your hands. It's good 615 00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:32,000 Speaker 1: to know some basic self defense skills. Martial arts might 616 00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:34,200 Speaker 1: be at that's one way of saying it. But it's 617 00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:35,920 Speaker 1: it's good to not to defend yourself. It doesn't mean 618 00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:37,560 Speaker 1: you have to get into fights, right, It's just a 619 00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:40,520 Speaker 1: good thing to to know, and I think it instills 620 00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:42,879 Speaker 1: a degree of of confidence and make somebody a little 621 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:45,440 Speaker 1: more uh, you know, self possessed when they're dealing with 622 00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:48,000 Speaker 1: certain situations. And so I feel the same way about 623 00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:51,160 Speaker 1: if adults want to get active shooter training, if adults 624 00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:53,160 Speaker 1: want to conceal carry in schools, I'm all I'm for 625 00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:56,640 Speaker 1: it and fine with it. Um. So if this program 626 00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:59,319 Speaker 1: maybe could be expanded, that's perhaps a way to to 627 00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:00,960 Speaker 1: get us to a better place in all this. Thank 628 00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:05,400 Speaker 1: you for calling Matthew from from Nebraska. Appreciate it. Yeah, 629 00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:08,920 Speaker 1: you know this is it's been pretty amazing to see 630 00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:15,799 Speaker 1: how quickly this issue was uh turned into well, how 631 00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:17,640 Speaker 1: quickly all of a sudden we're being told that the 632 00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:22,600 Speaker 1: solution is gun control. And I thought we had gotten 633 00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:24,200 Speaker 1: a place where we were past this, but now here 634 00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:27,080 Speaker 1: we are. In fact, there's still you know, efforts at 635 00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:31,240 Speaker 1: gun control and gun restrictions, but then also the notion 636 00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:34,400 Speaker 1: of a massive force. I don't think that's the answer either, um, 637 00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:35,640 Speaker 1: but not a lot of people want to hear the 638 00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:37,200 Speaker 1: problem is not as bad as the meat is telling you. 639 00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:39,319 Speaker 1: And that's what I'm telling you. The administration is going 640 00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:42,360 Speaker 1: to be rolling out policy over the next three weeks, 641 00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:46,480 Speaker 1: and it will be very, very strong. I've also spoken 642 00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:50,600 Speaker 1: with Jeff about bringing a lawsuit against some of these 643 00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:54,319 Speaker 1: sopioid companies. I mean, what they're doing and the way 644 00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:57,520 Speaker 1: the distribution, and you have people that go to the 645 00:37:57,600 --> 00:37:59,520 Speaker 1: hospital with a broken arm and they come out in 646 00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:02,960 Speaker 1: there addicted. You know. As you know, we've been I 647 00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:05,719 Speaker 1: think we've been involved more than any administration by far. 648 00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:10,520 Speaker 1: President Trump earlier today at a White House summit on 649 00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:13,520 Speaker 1: the opioid crisis, welcome to our to the buck sex 650 00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:16,279 Speaker 1: and show everyone this is an issue that from the 651 00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:20,960 Speaker 1: beginnings of this show I've tried to bring attention to 652 00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:26,240 Speaker 1: this is an issue that I have to say, given 653 00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:32,640 Speaker 1: the focus and and outrage and the national convulsion that 654 00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:36,200 Speaker 1: we have just had because of the school shooting, I 655 00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:42,080 Speaker 1: can't help but look at the lack of political momentum 656 00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:46,279 Speaker 1: and media focus on this, which is also a life 657 00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:50,520 Speaker 1: or death issue, and in terms of scale, it is 658 00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:54,480 Speaker 1: not even close when we look at the problem. Um. 659 00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:58,439 Speaker 1: As I mentioned yesterday, the numbers are what they are. 660 00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:02,759 Speaker 1: You have a few ousen people killed in school shootings 661 00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:09,799 Speaker 1: in recent years. For twenty sixteen I think, or maybe 662 00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:14,840 Speaker 1: it's seventeen, the numbers are in over sixty three thousand 663 00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:22,799 Speaker 1: people died of opioid over overdoses, sixty three thousand. To 664 00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:28,160 Speaker 1: put that in perspective, you had a total in of 665 00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:32,560 Speaker 1: seventeen thousand, two hundred fifty people were murdered in the 666 00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:36,800 Speaker 1: United States, So you lost it's all murders, all cities, 667 00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:40,520 Speaker 1: three million people, seventeen thousand, two hundred fifty murders in 668 00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:46,120 Speaker 1: the US UH sixty three thousand people died of opiod overdoses. Now, 669 00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:50,560 Speaker 1: I know with opioids people are there's differences here right there. 670 00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:55,400 Speaker 1: Taking them, they're becoming addicted. But this is an urgent 671 00:39:56,320 --> 00:40:00,120 Speaker 1: national crisis, and it's affecting communities all across the country. 672 00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:05,000 Speaker 1: And I think that this hits home, particularly with the President, 673 00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:07,960 Speaker 1: because of what he went through with his brother, who, 674 00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:11,520 Speaker 1: as is well known, has been described by the President 675 00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:15,880 Speaker 1: in some detail, drank himself to death. And this is 676 00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:18,680 Speaker 1: I just I see these Look I'm not saying we 677 00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:22,480 Speaker 1: can't handle more than one issue, but look at the 678 00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:29,040 Speaker 1: the ferocity of the media's demands for urgent action and 679 00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:33,560 Speaker 1: sweeping change on gun control because of school shootings, and 680 00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:39,960 Speaker 1: the much more muted approach to dealing with a crisis 681 00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:42,879 Speaker 1: that is it is a true pandemic. We have a 682 00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:48,520 Speaker 1: pandemic of addiction in this country right now, particularly to 683 00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:53,200 Speaker 1: these opioids and these different uh, these different chemical compounds 684 00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:56,719 Speaker 1: don't even have to necessarily grown anymore. But you've got 685 00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:58,759 Speaker 1: a perfect storm of a number of factors that have 686 00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:05,439 Speaker 1: come together. One of them is that people have been 687 00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:09,399 Speaker 1: given a lot of prescription drugs for pain, and the 688 00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:13,800 Speaker 1: prescription or the pharmaceutical companies seemed to be way too 689 00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:20,840 Speaker 1: lax in their safeguards in selling enormous quantities of a 690 00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:24,600 Speaker 1: whole bunch of different drugs OxyContin and and others into 691 00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:29,040 Speaker 1: certain parts of the country, certain pharmacies, and that's very, 692 00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:31,560 Speaker 1: very bad. You have, as I've been telling you, the 693 00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:34,840 Speaker 1: Mexican cartels more violent than they've ever been. I was 694 00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:36,160 Speaker 1: just telling a friend this the other day. He said, 695 00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:37,719 Speaker 1: no way. I said, look it up, and it came 696 00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:40,960 Speaker 1: back to me, said, you're right. Most murders ever in 697 00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:44,799 Speaker 1: Mexico because of the cartels right now, violence on a 698 00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:47,520 Speaker 1: scale that is as bad as anything that we've seen 699 00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:49,719 Speaker 1: in that country. Oh and by the way, they're now 700 00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:55,800 Speaker 1: vertically integrated as heroin growers and exporters and importers. I 701 00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:57,880 Speaker 1: mean they're importing into the United States, exporting in from 702 00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:02,160 Speaker 1: Mexico and growing it. And if you look at a 703 00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:07,000 Speaker 1: map of Mexico, there's highlands that kind of form a 704 00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:09,640 Speaker 1: backbone of spine of the country up starting up in 705 00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:13,759 Speaker 1: the Durango and Sinaloa area, Cineloa highlands, and then you 706 00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:16,680 Speaker 1: go all the way down and they can grow poppy 707 00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:19,600 Speaker 1: up there, and they do. They're growing heroin now, I 708 00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:21,560 Speaker 1: mean they don't grow heroin. That heroin is a process 709 00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:23,560 Speaker 1: that you you get it from the paste from the 710 00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:26,920 Speaker 1: poppy plant. But they're doing that now in Mexico used 711 00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:28,400 Speaker 1: to have to come all the way from South Asia 712 00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:32,279 Speaker 1: for the most part. Then you've also got large chemical factories, 713 00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:36,799 Speaker 1: illegal ones operating in Mexico and in China, and they 714 00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:40,160 Speaker 1: can bring pills into the US that are incredibly addictive, 715 00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:45,120 Speaker 1: very very powerful, fentanel and others, these different chemical compounds 716 00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:51,400 Speaker 1: that haven't that have addictive properties, that are just it 717 00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:54,880 Speaker 1: is very very hard to to break. I mean when 718 00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:57,640 Speaker 1: you read the descriptions I have to give so I 719 00:42:57,680 --> 00:42:59,600 Speaker 1: think it was seeing Inn in the New York Times 720 00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:02,200 Speaker 1: was writing just about what addicts are like, what the 721 00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:06,080 Speaker 1: It was profiles of different opioid addicts, and they are 722 00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:10,600 Speaker 1: generally functioning people. We have this notion in the country, 723 00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:13,160 Speaker 1: and I think that's part of why the media is 724 00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:16,640 Speaker 1: not really focused on this issue. And you think about 725 00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:19,960 Speaker 1: there's there were a lot of stories, stories about the 726 00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:22,719 Speaker 1: crack epidemics, stories about the AIDS epidemic. I mean, when 727 00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:27,400 Speaker 1: when there's a national crisis like this, usually because it 728 00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:30,160 Speaker 1: is both important and attention grabbing, media runs with it. 729 00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:35,239 Speaker 1: I see very little coverage of opioids. It hasn't yet 730 00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:40,000 Speaker 1: been addressed as something that needs a really a cultural 731 00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:44,239 Speaker 1: shift and the mobilization of communities across the country to 732 00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:48,319 Speaker 1: deal with it. And I'm not comparing to say that 733 00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:50,239 Speaker 1: one is important and one is into or something. But 734 00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:53,759 Speaker 1: you look at the the the outpouring from both sides 735 00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:55,400 Speaker 1: of the aisle to deal at school shooting, then you 736 00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:57,840 Speaker 1: look at the opioid crisis. Government is not going to 737 00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:00,359 Speaker 1: solve the opioid crisis, folks, governs all, I'm not gonna 738 00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:04,080 Speaker 1: solve school shootings. But it's this is from us, this 739 00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:08,640 Speaker 1: is at our level. And I've I've been around people, 740 00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:10,759 Speaker 1: I've seen people in my life, even you know, growing 741 00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:13,680 Speaker 1: up in New York City, there were a lot of 742 00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:16,120 Speaker 1: drugs here. In fact, one of the things I think 743 00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:20,239 Speaker 1: that always surprises. It certainly surprised some of my my 744 00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:24,279 Speaker 1: peers at Langley at the c i a UM. One 745 00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:26,160 Speaker 1: of the things that always surprises was that when I 746 00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:29,160 Speaker 1: tell them stories about and like I had very loving, 747 00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:31,960 Speaker 1: supportive family, had great parents, I went to a great 748 00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:34,640 Speaker 1: Jesuit school here and everything, but just being in the 749 00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:36,920 Speaker 1: city and be you know, going we used to go 750 00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:39,560 Speaker 1: out very young age here. People had fake I d s. 751 00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:42,200 Speaker 1: I think back to this now and it seems crazy, 752 00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:45,000 Speaker 1: but everyone starting around fourteen or fifteen, would try to 753 00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:46,800 Speaker 1: get a fake I d and they're going to bars, 754 00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:48,799 Speaker 1: and there were nightclubs that we would go to here 755 00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:51,239 Speaker 1: in New York. I mean, not me obviously, because I 756 00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:55,759 Speaker 1: was not twenty one yet, but yeah, maybe, but you're 757 00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:59,719 Speaker 1: just around and people started doing drugs that are very 758 00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:01,879 Speaker 1: young age. I think one of the things that's surprising 759 00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:05,040 Speaker 1: for some of my my government friends when I said, well, 760 00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:07,320 Speaker 1: how did you get a how did you get a clearance? 761 00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:09,319 Speaker 1: You know, you know, and I said, I just never 762 00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:11,799 Speaker 1: got mixed up in any of that stuff. It just 763 00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:16,319 Speaker 1: never was for me. You know. I had a a 764 00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:18,040 Speaker 1: big brother to look out for me, and a little 765 00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:20,080 Speaker 1: brother and sister that I wanted to be proud of me, 766 00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:22,560 Speaker 1: and parents that you know, in the same that I 767 00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:25,719 Speaker 1: felt the same about. And it just never And I 768 00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:29,560 Speaker 1: had friends who went to rehab. I knew people very 769 00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:33,440 Speaker 1: well who went to rehab for serious drug addiction, and 770 00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:36,359 Speaker 1: I'm glad that they got help, but some of them 771 00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:38,320 Speaker 1: were never really the same afterwards. I was just speaking 772 00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:41,120 Speaker 1: to a dear friend of mine a few weeks ago. 773 00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:44,000 Speaker 1: We actually met up and had had dinner for the 774 00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:46,080 Speaker 1: first time in a while. A guy I've known for 775 00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:50,400 Speaker 1: decades at this point, and we we got into a 776 00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:52,040 Speaker 1: lot of a lot of a lot of fun trouble 777 00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:53,839 Speaker 1: together back in the day. You know, we were kind 778 00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:57,680 Speaker 1: of partners and uh and growing up together here in 779 00:45:57,719 --> 00:45:59,440 Speaker 1: the city. And he said that we saw he saw 780 00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:01,960 Speaker 1: another friend he saw in the street who we both 781 00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:06,040 Speaker 1: knew and has been just been through it, addicted to 782 00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:09,160 Speaker 1: the worst addicted to the worst stuff. And by the way, 783 00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:11,440 Speaker 1: a privileged kid. You know, I grew up with a 784 00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:14,400 Speaker 1: life of privilege here in the city, and but just 785 00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:19,680 Speaker 1: had the had multiple trips into rehab. And he said 786 00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:21,600 Speaker 1: he saw him and they were really all friends, and 787 00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:24,080 Speaker 1: he pretended not to see him, meaning the guy who 788 00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:25,560 Speaker 1: had been to rehab tend not to see him, sped 789 00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:27,920 Speaker 1: up and just walked past him and walked away. He 790 00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:30,400 Speaker 1: said he couldn't even bring himself to be mad at 791 00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:34,480 Speaker 1: him because he knew that he just it's just easier, 792 00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:38,799 Speaker 1: it's easier not to get into it. You know, how 793 00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:41,280 Speaker 1: are you doing? Oh? You know, I've you know, I'm 794 00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:43,600 Speaker 1: I'm clean for x amount of days, and you know, 795 00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:46,480 Speaker 1: because we all know, we all know. I think I 796 00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:48,400 Speaker 1: might have been mentioned before in the show. I had 797 00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:54,080 Speaker 1: two friends growing up, both of whom died of drug overdoses, 798 00:46:55,520 --> 00:46:57,520 Speaker 1: one of whom was actually a very very close friend 799 00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:01,320 Speaker 1: of mine when I was on the very young, the 800 00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:06,200 Speaker 1: younger side. Um, Now they were prescription drug overdoses. I 801 00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:09,040 Speaker 1: don't you know, And then you get into it was 802 00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:12,360 Speaker 1: it was it just an of course, in these situations, 803 00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:14,759 Speaker 1: you just respect the family's wishes and try to support them, 804 00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:16,360 Speaker 1: and you know, you don't ask questions, right, But I 805 00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:19,480 Speaker 1: knew that both of them died of drug overdose. Uh. 806 00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:21,279 Speaker 1: And two people I knew, I knew well and spent 807 00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:23,680 Speaker 1: a lot of time with, and also, by the way, 808 00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:27,640 Speaker 1: very very privileged people here in the city. And I 809 00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:30,880 Speaker 1: just always stayed away from that stuff. I never healed me. 810 00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:32,960 Speaker 1: But I'm telling you these stories just because I've I've 811 00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:35,520 Speaker 1: seen it. I've seen what it does to people. I 812 00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:38,279 Speaker 1: knew young women, I knew my peers. When I was 813 00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:41,080 Speaker 1: in high school fifteen sixteen years old, going to rehab 814 00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:45,040 Speaker 1: for cocaine, that was a big one. Um, some others 815 00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:47,399 Speaker 1: would go for alcohol, but cocaine was particularly a big 816 00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:49,680 Speaker 1: issue when I was growing up in the city. And 817 00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:53,879 Speaker 1: you know, that's a dangerous drug, terribly addictive ruins lives. Well, 818 00:47:53,880 --> 00:48:00,440 Speaker 1: we're seeing now is a proliferation of these incredible potent 819 00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:04,520 Speaker 1: pain killers that are even more addictive and more available 820 00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:07,440 Speaker 1: and can come in all different kinds of forms. And 821 00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:09,680 Speaker 1: you've got the car. You can either get it from 822 00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:12,319 Speaker 1: the cartels, which is coming to you from a street dealer, right, 823 00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:16,680 Speaker 1: or you having an unethical doctor who's prescribing too many 824 00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:19,680 Speaker 1: pain killers and not paying attention, or maybe just a 825 00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:22,520 Speaker 1: doctor who doesn't really you know, people are doctor shopping, 826 00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:24,360 Speaker 1: or the pharmacist is not paying attention. They are all 827 00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:26,879 Speaker 1: these different ways to get this, right. That's that's part 828 00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:30,080 Speaker 1: of it too. People talk about gateway drugs. Well, if 829 00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:33,440 Speaker 1: you're on pain medication for your back and it's an opioid, 830 00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:36,120 Speaker 1: it is it is a gateway drug to then getting 831 00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:38,279 Speaker 1: fenttal from so because you become addicted. I mean, I 832 00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:40,880 Speaker 1: actually don't believe that marijuana is a gateway drug too. 833 00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:43,880 Speaker 1: And I trust me more than I feel like more 834 00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:46,319 Speaker 1: than half the people I knew growing up in New 835 00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:49,200 Speaker 1: York City. I want to say we're like three quarters 836 00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:52,560 Speaker 1: of a smoked marijuana way way less than that did 837 00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:54,879 Speaker 1: anything else in terms of drugs. And I couldn't give 838 00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:57,160 Speaker 1: you a percentage. But the notion of it being a gateway, 839 00:48:57,200 --> 00:49:01,840 Speaker 1: I've always thought was kind of a falsehood. But addiction 840 00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:07,480 Speaker 1: is so debilitating and destructive, and the numbers don't lie. 841 00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:10,799 Speaker 1: Sixty three thousand people died, sixty three thousand of our 842 00:49:10,840 --> 00:49:13,200 Speaker 1: fellow Americans. Think of the holes that have been left 843 00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:15,920 Speaker 1: in those families. These are sons and daughters and mothers 844 00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:19,879 Speaker 1: and fathers. And I just don't get any sense of 845 00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:25,080 Speaker 1: the the urgency of national action from the opinion makers. 846 00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:27,439 Speaker 1: I give Trump crad I think Trump is really looking 847 00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:28,920 Speaker 1: at this and trying to tackle this, and I do 848 00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:31,719 Speaker 1: believe it's because he has a personal connection to addiction, 849 00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:34,200 Speaker 1: not to somebody has been affected. But I don't know. 850 00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:36,320 Speaker 1: Maybe he knows people have been affected by opioids too, 851 00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:40,319 Speaker 1: but from my own life knowing some folks who have 852 00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:45,319 Speaker 1: dealt with addiction to particularly to illegal substances, I mean, 853 00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:50,680 Speaker 1: alcohol is debilitating too, but it is it is tough, 854 00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:54,000 Speaker 1: it is uh, it is life shattering for a lot 855 00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:56,960 Speaker 1: of a lot of people, destroy his families, destroy his careers. 856 00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:01,520 Speaker 1: And this is if we're gonna start having a natural 857 00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:06,040 Speaker 1: conversation about taking positive action at the most local level 858 00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:07,360 Speaker 1: all the way up to the top of government. I 859 00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:10,640 Speaker 1: feel like this should be the priority. Um, It's only 860 00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:12,800 Speaker 1: gonna get worse, by the way, and unless we start 861 00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:16,000 Speaker 1: finding ways to address it and deal with it. And 862 00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:17,960 Speaker 1: and I have I have theories, by the way, that 863 00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:21,359 Speaker 1: aren't really based in the This is gonna sound bad 864 00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:23,239 Speaker 1: like based in the science as I'm coming up with 865 00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:26,480 Speaker 1: with quackery here. No, but I have my own inclinations 866 00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:29,879 Speaker 1: about why the opioid epidemic has gotten so bad. Why 867 00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:32,040 Speaker 1: A lot of you listening, I know many of you 868 00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:34,239 Speaker 1: across the country listening to show right now are saying, well, 869 00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:36,360 Speaker 1: I know somebody who has been affected by it. You 870 00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:40,040 Speaker 1: might know many people have been affected by it. Um. 871 00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:44,920 Speaker 1: I think it's because of the way that we approach 872 00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:49,080 Speaker 1: our datity lives now and pushing through pain and dealing 873 00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:52,080 Speaker 1: and people are more are want to be active longer. 874 00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:55,279 Speaker 1: People feel like they should be able to. And I 875 00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:57,240 Speaker 1: certainly encouraged that. Right. You want to be as physically 876 00:50:57,280 --> 00:50:58,960 Speaker 1: active as you can as long as you can, but 877 00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:02,840 Speaker 1: you can agging injuries, back pain. A lot of physical 878 00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:07,319 Speaker 1: pain actually comes from stress and from lifestyle issues that 879 00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:09,360 Speaker 1: are just a part of what it is to be 880 00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:11,720 Speaker 1: grinding and out, trying to pay bills, trying to support 881 00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:15,239 Speaker 1: a family, trying to keep the mortgage paid. All of that, right, 882 00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:18,000 Speaker 1: there are physical manifestations of that pain. If you can 883 00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:22,960 Speaker 1: escape it with a pill, that becomes very potent. That's 884 00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:26,799 Speaker 1: hard to that's hard to pass up for a lot 885 00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:32,960 Speaker 1: of people. And it also affects different It affects people differently, 886 00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:36,400 Speaker 1: meaning for some and they're starting to to look at 887 00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:38,799 Speaker 1: the genetics of this more. They're starting to look at 888 00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:43,400 Speaker 1: the biochemistry much more rigorously. Some people. Yeah, I mean, 889 00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:46,760 Speaker 1: I remember I had a it's gonna sound like ridiculous, 890 00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:49,040 Speaker 1: but a long time ago I had the first time 891 00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:51,640 Speaker 1: I was ever given real prescription painkillers was because I 892 00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:54,400 Speaker 1: was doing some cliff jumping and managed to give myself 893 00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:58,520 Speaker 1: an ear infection, which, when you're an adult sounds sounds. 894 00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:02,439 Speaker 1: An ear infection is maddening lye painful. If it gets 895 00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:05,960 Speaker 1: into your inter ear, it's terrible. It's the worst. It Literally, 896 00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:07,960 Speaker 1: the guy the doc had to give you pain killers. 897 00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:10,520 Speaker 1: I took it. I remember feeling kind of, you know, 898 00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:13,920 Speaker 1: a little woozy. It's kind of I remember, and I 899 00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:17,040 Speaker 1: didn't have any inclination afterwards to you know, I remember 900 00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:19,120 Speaker 1: I had leftovers and I just you know, I threw 901 00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:22,880 Speaker 1: them out, right? Who cares? For some people, they're finding 902 00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:25,719 Speaker 1: now that their biochemistry, they're actually the way that their 903 00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:29,560 Speaker 1: brain functions is that once they take it, it's like 904 00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:31,799 Speaker 1: this is all that they this is all that they want. 905 00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:34,400 Speaker 1: They want to read, they want to achieve that feeling again. 906 00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:38,239 Speaker 1: And then once they get in that cycle on opioids 907 00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:41,920 Speaker 1: and they try to withdraw. Opioid withdrawal is described by 908 00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:44,399 Speaker 1: people in a lot of different ways, but the most 909 00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:47,000 Speaker 1: common way is think of the worst flu you've ever 910 00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:50,399 Speaker 1: had and multiplied by a hundred, and that's what that's 911 00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:52,919 Speaker 1: what opioid with all feels like. And that's why people 912 00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:55,280 Speaker 1: make the terrible decisions they do once they become addicted. 913 00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:59,160 Speaker 1: But this is a national this is a true national crisis. 914 00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:02,680 Speaker 1: People are dying in vast numbers, many more than are 915 00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:05,879 Speaker 1: dying from car accidents, many more than are dying from 916 00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:08,600 Speaker 1: any kind of violence, not just gun violence, hammers and 917 00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:13,880 Speaker 1: sharp objects too. And yet you know that you're not 918 00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:18,239 Speaker 1: seeing the pundit class because you know what, on this one, 919 00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:22,320 Speaker 1: this is just about us. Harder for them to find 920 00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:25,040 Speaker 1: a bad guy. You know there's there's no there's no 921 00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:26,680 Speaker 1: n r A for the left to beat up on 922 00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:28,919 Speaker 1: when it comes to opioids. I mean, I guess maybe 923 00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:31,040 Speaker 1: they're trying to make it the pharmaceutical industry. But here's 924 00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:32,960 Speaker 1: the thing. You beat up on the farm on big 925 00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:35,480 Speaker 1: farmer too much. Guess what people need pain pills too, right, 926 00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:39,040 Speaker 1: family members who have been through surgeries recently. You're gonna 927 00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:41,800 Speaker 1: need pain pills sometimes. So it's not not as easy 928 00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:44,680 Speaker 1: as just oh, the big bad farmers the problem we 929 00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:47,880 Speaker 1: have here. So I just think this is she deserves 930 00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:51,000 Speaker 1: a lot more, uh, not just attention, right, that's one 931 00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:55,040 Speaker 1: part of it, but action. We've we've spent a couple 932 00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:59,040 Speaker 1: of weeks there's a country convulse by discussion over how 933 00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:05,360 Speaker 1: to stop uh terrible murders that should never happen but 934 00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:09,600 Speaker 1: are in the dozens, and we've spent far too little 935 00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:11,880 Speaker 1: of our time also thinking about how we can stop 936 00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:14,480 Speaker 1: murders that are in the tens of thousands, over sixty 937 00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:19,040 Speaker 1: three thousand last year. Had a quick break here, We'll 938 00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:23,720 Speaker 1: be right back. Some countries have a very very tough penalty, 939 00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:27,279 Speaker 1: the ultimate penalty, and by the way, they have much 940 00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:31,600 Speaker 1: less of a drug problem than we do. So we're 941 00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:34,239 Speaker 1: gonna have to be very strong on penalties. Hopefully we 942 00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:39,000 Speaker 1: can do some litigation against the the opioid companies. I 943 00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:41,719 Speaker 1: think it's very important because a lot of states are 944 00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:44,040 Speaker 1: doing it. But I keep saying, if the states are 945 00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:48,360 Speaker 1: doing it, why isn't the federal government doing it? I 946 00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:52,040 Speaker 1: think the President's got an interesting point whenever he talks 947 00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:55,520 Speaker 1: about more concerted action on opioids. I don't think that 948 00:54:56,120 --> 00:54:59,399 Speaker 1: currently any there's I think US law is pretty clear 949 00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:01,120 Speaker 1: that you can only be killed if you kill someone, 950 00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:03,960 Speaker 1: meaning you can only be put to death if you 951 00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:09,480 Speaker 1: cause if you cause death, um, except for treason, and 952 00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:12,799 Speaker 1: uh yeah, I think that's it. I think I think 953 00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:14,520 Speaker 1: the only crime you can be put to death for 954 00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:19,040 Speaker 1: that does not involve that does not involve killing somebody 955 00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:21,320 Speaker 1: or are you being responsible for someone's death, is treason. 956 00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:24,719 Speaker 1: I think that's correct. John in Whitesboro, New York, Hey, 957 00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:28,640 Speaker 1: what's up, John. I'll be real quick. I used to 958 00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:30,400 Speaker 1: work as a transit company and you can't get a 959 00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:32,040 Speaker 1: bigger in New York City, and you can't get a 960 00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:36,319 Speaker 1: bigger journal than the subway system, and I quote more 961 00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:39,120 Speaker 1: females urinating and guys. But trust me, I would never 962 00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:41,960 Speaker 1: lock anybody up for that at worst, or I throw 963 00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:44,319 Speaker 1: them off the subway system. But I was telling your 964 00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:47,719 Speaker 1: screener that I actually one time got urinated on on 965 00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:50,879 Speaker 1: the Jay train at Lormer Avenue when uh, I guess 966 00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:53,600 Speaker 1: that's like like two stops away from the Williamsburg Bridge. 967 00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:57,480 Speaker 1: Were you in uniform? Yeah, I was hiding in a 968 00:55:57,560 --> 00:56:00,759 Speaker 1: room looking for fair beaters. Two guys came through, one 969 00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:02,840 Speaker 1: one up up onto the platform and the other was 970 00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:05,520 Speaker 1: on the mezzanine. So I stopped the messanine guy I 971 00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:07,319 Speaker 1: said he wanted to use the phone, so I let 972 00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:09,920 Speaker 1: him go. I started going upstairs, and you know how 973 00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:12,200 Speaker 1: like on the elevated lines, was like a landing halfway up. 974 00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:14,399 Speaker 1: As soon as I got the landing, I felt something 975 00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:16,480 Speaker 1: hit my hat, so I stopped, you know, because I 976 00:56:16,520 --> 00:56:17,719 Speaker 1: was wondering what it was. And then all of a 977 00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:20,360 Speaker 1: sudden I got port on by urine. So I continued 978 00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:22,080 Speaker 1: going up the stairs and around, like you know, when 979 00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:23,680 Speaker 1: you get up to the platform you could walk around, 980 00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:26,280 Speaker 1: and the guy was in the corner there at the 981 00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:28,400 Speaker 1: thing that goes around the stairway, and he was urinating 982 00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:31,439 Speaker 1: and it came down on me and he was drunk 983 00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:33,359 Speaker 1: and stuff. But you know, I think I wrote him 984 00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:35,680 Speaker 1: with summons, but he didn't have good idea. He was drunk. 985 00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:38,799 Speaker 1: But I tell me I I he got smacked around 986 00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:40,080 Speaker 1: a little bit and I threw him both the up. 987 00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:45,080 Speaker 1: But no one would lock you up with that buck. Okay, 988 00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:50,640 Speaker 1: Officer John, thank you. I got nothing. Man, I got 989 00:56:50,680 --> 00:56:53,200 Speaker 1: nothing after that. You know I needed I actually really 990 00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:57,760 Speaker 1: needed that car. Thank you, Officer John Eggs. All right, everybody, 991 00:56:57,760 --> 00:57:01,120 Speaker 1: I'll be right back. We should be looking for bipartisan 992 00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:04,720 Speaker 1: solutions to revise the FISA process so that what happened 993 00:57:04,719 --> 00:57:08,480 Speaker 1: to President Trump never happens to a future American president. 994 00:57:08,680 --> 00:57:10,640 Speaker 1: So I went looking for solutions, and I found that 995 00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:14,160 Speaker 1: in the gentleman from California, the ranking member of the 996 00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:17,280 Speaker 1: Intelligence Committee, wanted to give the President of the United 997 00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:21,080 Speaker 1: States the power to appoint FISA judges. He argued that 998 00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:24,360 Speaker 1: then judges would be more ideologically diverse, they'd come from 999 00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:26,680 Speaker 1: different areas in the United States, and they would be 1000 00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:31,520 Speaker 1: subject to Senate confirmation. Today, I filed that legislation, and 1001 00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:34,240 Speaker 1: I would encourage the Gentleman from California to join me 1002 00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:38,200 Speaker 1: as a co sponsor so that we can advance bipartisan legislation. 1003 00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:41,680 Speaker 1: Who wants to guess whether she have joined in that legislation. 1004 00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:48,400 Speaker 1: Who wants to guess the answer? Of course you already know. Look, 1005 00:57:48,560 --> 00:57:52,600 Speaker 1: this is this is a process that I think, unfortunately, 1006 00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:54,960 Speaker 1: we'll go out with a whimper and not a bang, 1007 00:57:55,080 --> 00:57:58,960 Speaker 1: meaning there's not going to be any day, or I 1008 00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:01,760 Speaker 1: can come on the show and they see it's all over. 1009 00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:05,280 Speaker 1: We have our answers. And part of the problem here 1010 00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:08,960 Speaker 1: is that while some who are opponents of the administration 1011 00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:12,200 Speaker 1: pretend that that's the only thing that will that's the 1012 00:58:12,240 --> 00:58:14,439 Speaker 1: only thing they want. They want the truth, just the truth, 1013 00:58:14,520 --> 00:58:17,440 Speaker 1: nothing but the truth. They know that every day that 1014 00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:20,320 Speaker 1: this goes on is a day that slows down the 1015 00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:24,480 Speaker 1: administration from building a wall, slows down the administration from 1016 00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:28,800 Speaker 1: trying to help with the economy, allows things like this 1017 00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:34,200 Speaker 1: to go on challenge and of course I'm just closed 1018 00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:37,600 Speaker 1: with talking about the GOP tax scam. Every day that 1019 00:58:37,640 --> 00:58:40,760 Speaker 1: goes by, we see more evidence that it is exactly 1020 00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:43,560 Speaker 1: that a tax scam. We continue to put out the 1021 00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:47,360 Speaker 1: truth on the tax scams, massive giveaways to corporations and 1022 00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:51,640 Speaker 1: the wealthy, and its consequences for workers, seniors, and families. 1023 00:58:51,960 --> 00:58:55,320 Speaker 1: Every day we see more corporations announcing stuck buy backs 1024 00:58:55,520 --> 00:58:59,320 Speaker 1: to enrich their executives and investors instead of increasing the 1025 00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:03,120 Speaker 1: wages an ongoing basis of workers. I see. So now 1026 00:59:03,120 --> 00:59:05,920 Speaker 1: it has to be a wage increase, A bonus of 1027 00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:08,680 Speaker 1: a thousand dollars to employees from all these different companies. 1028 00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:12,400 Speaker 1: That's crumbs. But it needs to be a wage increase 1029 00:59:12,440 --> 00:59:15,200 Speaker 1: for Nancy Pelosi to be happy. Nancy Pelosi is an 1030 00:59:15,240 --> 00:59:18,120 Speaker 1: economic illiterate. She has no idea what she's talking about 1031 00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:21,760 Speaker 1: and what's worse, in many ways, she does not care. Uh. 1032 00:59:21,960 --> 00:59:25,760 Speaker 1: She has no policy to put forward that would improve 1033 00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:30,840 Speaker 1: the economic situation of workers. But she knows that bashing Trump, 1034 00:59:30,880 --> 00:59:34,520 Speaker 1: bashing this administration is good politics for her base, and 1035 00:59:34,560 --> 00:59:38,000 Speaker 1: that is in fact what she is set on doing. 1036 00:59:39,360 --> 00:59:42,480 Speaker 1: But you think that maybe we could spend more time 1037 00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:45,760 Speaker 1: explaining to the American people how Nancy Pelosi does not 1038 00:59:45,880 --> 00:59:49,280 Speaker 1: have well, she doesn't have a conceptual understanding of how 1039 00:59:49,320 --> 00:59:52,240 Speaker 1: wages would go up. So you start with that, but 1040 00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:57,160 Speaker 1: also get into why it matters that companies will have 1041 00:59:57,240 --> 01:00:00,080 Speaker 1: more cash what that will do for hiring. But know, 1042 01:00:00,200 --> 01:00:02,920 Speaker 1: instead of being able to engage there. I mean, we 1043 01:00:02,960 --> 01:00:05,000 Speaker 1: can write I just did, but instead of that being 1044 01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:08,200 Speaker 1: a focus of the narrative, it is so much more 1045 01:00:08,240 --> 01:00:11,240 Speaker 1: on what the latest in the Muller probe is. I 1046 01:00:11,240 --> 01:00:16,040 Speaker 1: am so sick and tired of this Muller probe. I'm 1047 01:00:16,080 --> 01:00:18,680 Speaker 1: seeing now that there's a breaking news, if you want 1048 01:00:18,720 --> 01:00:21,800 Speaker 1: to call it, that, that there will be more indictments 1049 01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:27,240 Speaker 1: of Russians. Okay, great, what's that gonna do. These are 1050 01:00:27,280 --> 01:00:30,320 Speaker 1: Russians who will never stand trial. These are Russians who 1051 01:00:30,560 --> 01:00:33,520 Speaker 1: don't give a crap what Mueller says or thinks or 1052 01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:37,680 Speaker 1: does or the the d o J for that matter. 1053 01:00:38,680 --> 01:00:42,000 Speaker 1: And this time around it may have to do with 1054 01:00:42,080 --> 01:00:45,000 Speaker 1: the theft of Hillary's emails, is what I'm being told. 1055 01:00:45,040 --> 01:00:46,840 Speaker 1: That's what I'm well, that's what I'm reading issue. I mean, 1056 01:00:47,680 --> 01:00:50,560 Speaker 1: uh so we'll see a hacking scheme to get at 1057 01:00:50,560 --> 01:00:56,439 Speaker 1: her emails. But you know, if it's not that, it's 1058 01:00:56,520 --> 01:01:00,360 Speaker 1: there's some other bit of leakage from the Muller probes. 1059 01:01:00,480 --> 01:01:03,880 Speaker 1: So much leaking it's really hard to feel like there's 1060 01:01:03,880 --> 01:01:05,800 Speaker 1: political integrity in this. And I would also not that 1061 01:01:05,800 --> 01:01:09,920 Speaker 1: there was an article written by a former FBI agent 1062 01:01:10,480 --> 01:01:13,000 Speaker 1: who I think it was a Scarlet is still Read 1063 01:01:13,200 --> 01:01:15,520 Speaker 1: or something like that was the title, Or you're saying 1064 01:01:15,560 --> 01:01:17,240 Speaker 1: that Mueller has a long history of being one of 1065 01:01:17,240 --> 01:01:20,600 Speaker 1: these guys who in internal investigations, even at the FBI, 1066 01:01:21,560 --> 01:01:25,479 Speaker 1: would take the truth to an extreme, meaning that even 1067 01:01:25,520 --> 01:01:30,640 Speaker 1: if something was not particularly material, or if it could 1068 01:01:30,680 --> 01:01:33,320 Speaker 1: be said that you did not give the most specific 1069 01:01:33,480 --> 01:01:35,840 Speaker 1: version of the truth possible, he would use that for 1070 01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:39,640 Speaker 1: leverage over people in investigations. I think we're certainly seeing 1071 01:01:39,640 --> 01:01:45,400 Speaker 1: that democrats are playing games. They're using the bureaucratic machinery 1072 01:01:45,520 --> 01:01:48,080 Speaker 1: of the d o J as a weapon against their 1073 01:01:48,120 --> 01:01:54,160 Speaker 1: ideological opponents. That's what is happening. Uh. And when they're 1074 01:01:54,360 --> 01:01:58,240 Speaker 1: not just grinding people through that process, they are also 1075 01:01:59,200 --> 01:02:02,480 Speaker 1: letting America believe because that's the whole purpose of these 1076 01:02:02,520 --> 01:02:06,440 Speaker 1: stories that data jar that Jared Kushner took bribes, that 1077 01:02:06,560 --> 01:02:09,479 Speaker 1: that's the latest one. Last twenty four hours, he got 1078 01:02:09,520 --> 01:02:11,880 Speaker 1: loans because he met with the CEO Sans Companies and 1079 01:02:12,080 --> 01:02:15,600 Speaker 1: Kushner got loans, and you know they're going. Oh and 1080 01:02:15,640 --> 01:02:19,280 Speaker 1: also a CNN was running that Ivanka's international business transactions 1081 01:02:19,280 --> 01:02:23,960 Speaker 1: are under investigation. Another league, more leaks all the time. 1082 01:02:25,040 --> 01:02:27,320 Speaker 1: Do you think that they'll run stories at CNN when 1083 01:02:27,400 --> 01:02:30,920 Speaker 1: nothing comes of that investigation, when there are no charges 1084 01:02:30,960 --> 01:02:35,160 Speaker 1: and no no malfeasants found when they look into these transactions. 1085 01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:41,240 Speaker 1: I saw yesterday they're going into Trump's finances. Now I'm 1086 01:02:41,280 --> 01:02:44,200 Speaker 1: familiar with the way these with these things actually work. 1087 01:02:44,600 --> 01:02:48,880 Speaker 1: And this is what everyone needs to remember. If they 1088 01:02:48,920 --> 01:02:51,520 Speaker 1: want to get you bad enough, and they have enough 1089 01:02:51,600 --> 01:02:55,720 Speaker 1: leeway and they have the resources, they'll get you. They'll 1090 01:02:55,760 --> 01:02:59,240 Speaker 1: find something. People always think. You know, there's actually a 1091 01:02:59,240 --> 01:03:02,400 Speaker 1: pretty interesting book. I think it's written by Harvey ever 1092 01:03:02,560 --> 01:03:05,280 Speaker 1: his name is Silverstein or Silvergate. I think it's Harvey 1093 01:03:05,280 --> 01:03:09,840 Speaker 1: silver Gate, um. Three felonies a day. And it's just 1094 01:03:09,920 --> 01:03:13,200 Speaker 1: about how many Americans who because most people don't go 1095 01:03:13,240 --> 01:03:16,920 Speaker 1: to law school and don't really have a detailed understanding 1096 01:03:17,040 --> 01:03:20,960 Speaker 1: of criminal law and also the justice system like once 1097 01:03:21,000 --> 01:03:23,080 Speaker 1: you once they start poking around and asking questions, as 1098 01:03:23,120 --> 01:03:25,480 Speaker 1: we know, that becomes its own problem that people are 1099 01:03:25,520 --> 01:03:30,240 Speaker 1: committing to Harvey silver Gate. Yeah, Buck human google over here. 1100 01:03:31,120 --> 01:03:34,360 Speaker 1: Uh and I should never. I'm gonna make so many 1101 01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:38,840 Speaker 1: mistakes tomorrow or probably the next hour. Thank you, John. 1102 01:03:39,320 --> 01:03:42,680 Speaker 1: I deserved that. I deserved that. That was I earned 1103 01:03:42,720 --> 01:03:46,360 Speaker 1: that one. UM. Anyway, the book that was about the 1104 01:03:46,400 --> 01:03:51,440 Speaker 1: accidental felonies that people commit that are look, they're more 1105 01:03:51,480 --> 01:03:54,640 Speaker 1: minor stuff, but you know, uh, you know, misuse of 1106 01:03:54,640 --> 01:03:58,040 Speaker 1: a computer program or exceeding your authority on a work computer. 1107 01:03:58,160 --> 01:04:01,280 Speaker 1: These are all like felonies that people could theoretically be 1108 01:04:01,400 --> 01:04:04,720 Speaker 1: charged for. They have no idea, no idea. I don't 1109 01:04:04,760 --> 01:04:07,320 Speaker 1: even get me started on your taxes. And that's the 1110 01:04:07,320 --> 01:04:08,880 Speaker 1: way that they've been going after people for a long time. 1111 01:04:08,880 --> 01:04:10,920 Speaker 1: That was the old Clinton. That was the old Clinton 1112 01:04:11,000 --> 01:04:13,920 Speaker 1: move right, just get give somebody a real thorough audit. 1113 01:04:14,560 --> 01:04:16,560 Speaker 1: And as you know, if you've ever gone through that process, 1114 01:04:17,320 --> 01:04:18,960 Speaker 1: you've done nothing wrong. It's not like you get a 1115 01:04:18,960 --> 01:04:21,400 Speaker 1: prize at the end. You don't even get a high 1116 01:04:21,400 --> 01:04:23,600 Speaker 1: five from the I R. S. Afterward. It's like, oh wow, 1117 01:04:23,680 --> 01:04:27,040 Speaker 1: yours there as clean as Clinton Bay. It's like on 1118 01:04:27,240 --> 01:04:32,240 Speaker 1: the onto the next, you know, poor soul, Onto the 1119 01:04:32,240 --> 01:04:35,200 Speaker 1: next person who gets to deal with our questioning and 1120 01:04:35,240 --> 01:04:39,400 Speaker 1: investigations and has their freedom and their property at risk. Well, 1121 01:04:39,400 --> 01:04:41,640 Speaker 1: we get paid, you know, we the bureaucracy, get paid 1122 01:04:41,640 --> 01:04:44,280 Speaker 1: to show up no matter what you got breaking news. 1123 01:04:44,320 --> 01:04:46,320 Speaker 1: Let's see n I see a right now, Kushner's business 1124 01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:49,320 Speaker 1: interest got millions in loans after a White House meetings? 1125 01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:53,880 Speaker 1: Did he did he do something? Did he violate ethics 1126 01:04:53,960 --> 01:04:57,120 Speaker 1: or not? Because they're they're implying that he violated ethics 1127 01:04:57,120 --> 01:04:59,320 Speaker 1: and that he took a bride. If he did, that's 1128 01:04:59,320 --> 01:05:00,960 Speaker 1: really bad and you should be in trouble. But you 1129 01:05:01,000 --> 01:05:02,960 Speaker 1: know what, I'm willing to bet up. I'm willing to 1130 01:05:02,960 --> 01:05:07,120 Speaker 1: bet that no, he didn't. And when they find that out, 1131 01:05:07,200 --> 01:05:10,040 Speaker 1: they will not care, They will not cover that. They 1132 01:05:10,120 --> 01:05:12,800 Speaker 1: just keep reminding us of who is under investigation and 1133 01:05:12,840 --> 01:05:16,400 Speaker 1: what they are using this to sully individuals in the 1134 01:05:16,400 --> 01:05:21,520 Speaker 1: administration and as a form of taking out their ideological appeance. 1135 01:05:21,560 --> 01:05:23,160 Speaker 1: That's what this all is. That's why I just I 1136 01:05:23,200 --> 01:05:25,440 Speaker 1: just don't have any respect for the Muller probe anymore. 1137 01:05:25,480 --> 01:05:28,480 Speaker 1: I don't want to hear it. You know, they have 1138 01:05:28,600 --> 01:05:32,959 Speaker 1: given me nothing so far other than you know, low 1139 01:05:33,080 --> 01:05:36,800 Speaker 1: level mickey mouse garbage to work with in terms of 1140 01:05:36,840 --> 01:05:39,960 Speaker 1: their prosecutions. And okay, they're going off to manage. We 1141 01:05:40,000 --> 01:05:43,360 Speaker 1: didn't need a special counsel to go after maniforts tax returns, folks. 1142 01:05:45,560 --> 01:05:49,640 Speaker 1: Any prosecutor could have done that right. We could have 1143 01:05:49,640 --> 01:05:51,880 Speaker 1: brought our friend Annie McCarthy out of retirement. He probably 1144 01:05:51,880 --> 01:05:54,960 Speaker 1: could have figured out the manifort situation about five minutes 1145 01:05:54,960 --> 01:05:57,480 Speaker 1: in his pajamas. Is it's not that hard. You can 1146 01:05:57,600 --> 01:05:59,760 Speaker 1: pull the guy's bank records and you know that. That's it. 1147 01:05:59,840 --> 01:06:02,680 Speaker 1: That's all she wrote. So why do we have a 1148 01:06:02,720 --> 01:06:06,880 Speaker 1: special counsel? Why was it needed? The only reason we 1149 01:06:06,960 --> 01:06:10,000 Speaker 1: have a special counsel is because the media demanded one 1150 01:06:10,120 --> 01:06:11,919 Speaker 1: because of what Trump said in an interview with Lesser 1151 01:06:11,960 --> 01:06:15,520 Speaker 1: Holt after firing James Comeey. Because they said that the 1152 01:06:15,560 --> 01:06:18,480 Speaker 1: Justice Department under this president could not be trusted to 1153 01:06:18,560 --> 01:06:24,240 Speaker 1: operate as it as it does, and now we're seeing that. Well, 1154 01:06:24,280 --> 01:06:27,439 Speaker 1: hold on a second, they're just this is operating as 1155 01:06:27,440 --> 01:06:31,280 Speaker 1: some some rogue entity that's running around wrapping people up 1156 01:06:31,280 --> 01:06:33,520 Speaker 1: for all kinds of things. This guy wasn't in London. 1157 01:06:33,560 --> 01:06:36,200 Speaker 1: It was like the married the daughter of a Russian 1158 01:06:36,320 --> 01:06:38,320 Speaker 1: oligarch or is he the son of a Russian art 1159 01:06:38,360 --> 01:06:41,840 Speaker 1: I forget, but he was. He got nailed for lying 1160 01:06:41,880 --> 01:06:46,160 Speaker 1: to the FBI about a meeting five years ago or something. 1161 01:06:47,120 --> 01:06:50,000 Speaker 1: We're supposed to feel safer and better at night because 1162 01:06:50,000 --> 01:06:53,840 Speaker 1: of this. This is just it's just so frustrating, folks, 1163 01:06:53,840 --> 01:06:55,479 Speaker 1: because I was looking. We started out they are talking 1164 01:06:55,480 --> 01:07:00,400 Speaker 1: about a very real problem that no, doesn't just have 1165 01:07:00,520 --> 01:07:03,160 Speaker 1: live in the balances costing lives every single day, and 1166 01:07:03,160 --> 01:07:07,240 Speaker 1: and keep repeating the number sixty three thou dead last year. 1167 01:07:07,320 --> 01:07:13,760 Speaker 1: That's a huge number. And people would rather bog the 1168 01:07:13,800 --> 01:07:17,080 Speaker 1: president down and all of his top advisors in minutia 1169 01:07:17,240 --> 01:07:22,080 Speaker 1: and garbage and nonsense then make some allowance for Okay, 1170 01:07:22,160 --> 01:07:24,600 Speaker 1: I mean, this is the president. This is the presidency. 1171 01:07:24,640 --> 01:07:27,800 Speaker 1: Maybe we should stop trying to starting, uh, stop trying 1172 01:07:27,880 --> 01:07:30,840 Speaker 1: to sabotage its functions because we don't like where it 1173 01:07:30,880 --> 01:07:33,600 Speaker 1: stands on some issues. Is another part of the whole 1174 01:07:33,600 --> 01:07:37,560 Speaker 1: Trump arrangement situation. What has Trump done that really upsets 1175 01:07:37,600 --> 01:07:40,240 Speaker 1: these people so much? I think that's important. You have 1176 01:07:40,280 --> 01:07:42,360 Speaker 1: to remind yourself. You have to ask that question, you will, 1177 01:07:42,800 --> 01:07:47,120 Speaker 1: What has Trump done that makes them hate him so much? Now? 1178 01:07:47,200 --> 01:07:51,120 Speaker 1: They really were that excited about Hillary? Yes? Hello, I 1179 01:07:51,120 --> 01:07:53,840 Speaker 1: mean they really were just so set on a Hillary 1180 01:07:53,840 --> 01:07:57,640 Speaker 1: Clinton presidency. I find that hard to believe. And maybe 1181 01:07:57,640 --> 01:07:59,600 Speaker 1: they were so set on it, but that's what makes 1182 01:07:59,600 --> 01:08:02,560 Speaker 1: them so angry. They're so angry about the tax cat 1183 01:08:02,600 --> 01:08:06,200 Speaker 1: like Nancy Nancy Pelosi, Oh, it's a corporate giveaway. It's 1184 01:08:06,240 --> 01:08:08,840 Speaker 1: just for the fat cats, you know, I mean talking 1185 01:08:08,840 --> 01:08:11,120 Speaker 1: about the pot, calling the kettle black right, Nancy Pelosi's 1186 01:08:11,160 --> 01:08:15,919 Speaker 1: huband's worth like fifty million. So what has he done 1187 01:08:15,920 --> 01:08:18,280 Speaker 1: that makes them so mad? The way that he speaks, 1188 01:08:18,320 --> 01:08:20,519 Speaker 1: the way that he is, the fact that he's not 1189 01:08:20,560 --> 01:08:25,680 Speaker 1: a social justice warrior. I guess, yeah, I guess so 1190 01:08:27,160 --> 01:08:32,000 Speaker 1: that is, in fact, what is so bothersome to them, 1191 01:08:32,040 --> 01:08:33,840 Speaker 1: and that he's a threat to their power and to 1192 01:08:33,880 --> 01:08:37,000 Speaker 1: their stranglehold over the national narrative. The fact that he 1193 01:08:37,040 --> 01:08:38,960 Speaker 1: doesn't play by their rules, the fact that he calls 1194 01:08:38,960 --> 01:08:43,200 Speaker 1: them out, he slaps them around, and he wins. Because 1195 01:08:43,200 --> 01:08:45,599 Speaker 1: there's no there's nothing that he has done so far 1196 01:08:45,720 --> 01:08:47,759 Speaker 1: that I can look at and say, wow, that's really 1197 01:08:48,439 --> 01:08:52,200 Speaker 1: He's gonna really just stepping it with the liberals on 1198 01:08:52,280 --> 01:08:57,160 Speaker 1: that one. It's it's tone that they hate so much. 1199 01:08:57,439 --> 01:09:03,080 Speaker 1: It's stop ill. It's not the substance of the policies 1200 01:09:03,080 --> 01:09:05,439 Speaker 1: that have been implemented maybe eventually. I mean, the idea 1201 01:09:05,479 --> 01:09:07,200 Speaker 1: of a wall, I know, keeps liberals up in line 1202 01:09:07,200 --> 01:09:10,720 Speaker 1: and makes them cry, makes them sad. What do we do? 1203 01:09:10,840 --> 01:09:13,559 Speaker 1: We'll see, I mean, the small thing they'll get ready 1204 01:09:13,600 --> 01:09:17,800 Speaker 1: for with the Russian the indictments of more Russians. It 1205 01:09:17,880 --> 01:09:19,920 Speaker 1: just feeds, right, and they're gonna be throwing a party 1206 01:09:19,920 --> 01:09:21,600 Speaker 1: over at CNN on that one. It just feeds in 1207 01:09:21,600 --> 01:09:26,240 Speaker 1: the narrative, Oh my gosh, the election conspiracy, the election conspiracy. 1208 01:09:26,240 --> 01:09:29,800 Speaker 1: You'll you'll note that there are some very prominent left 1209 01:09:29,840 --> 01:09:32,200 Speaker 1: wing reporters with actual time on the ground in Russia. 1210 01:09:32,240 --> 01:09:34,960 Speaker 1: No they're talking about and they're not appearing on these 1211 01:09:34,960 --> 01:09:37,160 Speaker 1: big networks because other ones were saying, Okay, yeah, so 1212 01:09:37,200 --> 01:09:40,240 Speaker 1: they did this stuff. But this is this is like 1213 01:09:40,280 --> 01:09:44,360 Speaker 1: at the kiddie table, and this is nonsense, some social 1214 01:09:44,400 --> 01:09:52,959 Speaker 1: media maneuvering. He's information warfare and sock puppets and ah, 1215 01:09:53,240 --> 01:09:55,719 Speaker 1: people have lost it, folks, they've lost it. All we got, 1216 01:09:55,720 --> 01:09:57,880 Speaker 1: We've got a lot more. Next hour, we are gonna 1217 01:09:57,920 --> 01:10:01,120 Speaker 1: be joined by our friend Gordon Chang to talk about 1218 01:10:01,120 --> 01:10:05,040 Speaker 1: the China tariff situation on steel and aluminum and also 1219 01:10:05,120 --> 01:10:07,519 Speaker 1: just what we should be prepared for when dealing in 1220 01:10:07,560 --> 01:10:09,720 Speaker 1: dealing with China going forward here this could be uh, 1221 01:10:09,840 --> 01:10:15,200 Speaker 1: some rocky times ahead. I'll talk to you about the Invincible, Invincible, 1222 01:10:15,560 --> 01:10:20,280 Speaker 1: the Invincible, the invincible missiles that Vladimir Putin says that 1223 01:10:20,320 --> 01:10:23,200 Speaker 1: he has that can get past our radar. And you 1224 01:10:23,240 --> 01:10:26,679 Speaker 1: know they can't just nucas now, they can nucas into 1225 01:10:26,680 --> 01:10:29,200 Speaker 1: oblivion or something. I don't know. Well, I do know. 1226 01:10:29,280 --> 01:10:32,240 Speaker 1: I'll talk to you about it. And also we'll be 1227 01:10:32,280 --> 01:10:35,920 Speaker 1: joined by our our friends from Black Rifle Coffee. They're 1228 01:10:35,960 --> 01:10:37,719 Speaker 1: just gonna tell us a bit of the they've got. 1229 01:10:37,720 --> 01:10:40,559 Speaker 1: The company history is fasting. They've got some really cool stories. 1230 01:10:40,600 --> 01:10:42,680 Speaker 1: I'm excited to ask them about it. And then we've 1231 01:10:42,680 --> 01:10:45,000 Speaker 1: got a roll call coming. So we've got quite a 1232 01:10:45,040 --> 01:10:47,599 Speaker 1: little show left for you, folks. Don't go anywhere. I'll 1233 01:10:47,640 --> 01:10:50,400 Speaker 1: be right back. I kind of like Goren Hatch a 1234 01:10:50,439 --> 01:10:54,559 Speaker 1: little bit more now. Uh. He is quoted here, Nail 1235 01:10:54,720 --> 01:10:59,960 Speaker 1: is saying, quote, obiolic Are supporters are the stupidest dumbass people. 1236 01:11:00,000 --> 01:11:07,040 Speaker 1: Well he's ever met, Uh like it. That's pretty funny. 1237 01:11:06,880 --> 01:11:09,559 Speaker 1: He later had a spokesperson say he said it in 1238 01:11:09,760 --> 01:11:12,640 Speaker 1: chess blah blah, but he said it. He said at 1239 01:11:12,680 --> 01:11:18,360 Speaker 1: the American Enterprisesitude this tupid as dumb ass people. That's well, 1240 01:11:18,400 --> 01:11:20,920 Speaker 1: we'll play at the word hatch Hat tipped to Orange 1241 01:11:20,920 --> 01:11:26,880 Speaker 1: Hatch on that one. Pretty funny, all right, Joe in Wilmington, Delaware. Hey, Joe, 1242 01:11:28,479 --> 01:11:32,040 Speaker 1: I'm a huge fan. Thank you, sir. This tragedy that 1243 01:11:32,120 --> 01:11:36,360 Speaker 1: happened in Florida, you know, it says a lot about 1244 01:11:36,400 --> 01:11:40,880 Speaker 1: Republican leadership as well. Um for whatever reason, they just 1245 01:11:40,960 --> 01:11:43,800 Speaker 1: allowed that Democrats to control of the narratives. I mean, 1246 01:11:44,120 --> 01:11:47,719 Speaker 1: can you believe that instead of the story being Brower 1247 01:11:47,840 --> 01:11:53,639 Speaker 1: County Sheriff's Department doesn't protect the community from from people 1248 01:11:53,720 --> 01:11:56,439 Speaker 1: like this when when they had because the narrative is 1249 01:11:56,479 --> 01:11:59,240 Speaker 1: that it's the n r A spot. I mean, it's 1250 01:11:59,280 --> 01:12:03,080 Speaker 1: just so logical and every since in the way, and 1251 01:12:03,120 --> 01:12:07,480 Speaker 1: true Republicans like myself, we're sticking tired of some Republican 1252 01:12:07,600 --> 01:12:11,960 Speaker 1: leaders just running with their heads between their tails. We're 1253 01:12:11,960 --> 01:12:15,320 Speaker 1: ready to fight for our message. It's you know, when 1254 01:12:15,360 --> 01:12:19,600 Speaker 1: you have this sheriff that was told his department was 1255 01:12:19,640 --> 01:12:22,680 Speaker 1: told numerous of times, there was problems when you had 1256 01:12:22,680 --> 01:12:27,519 Speaker 1: the FBI notified, But yet the storyline is going to 1257 01:12:27,600 --> 01:12:31,559 Speaker 1: be the n r A. And you know, Buck, I 1258 01:12:31,600 --> 01:12:35,439 Speaker 1: expect young kids to react emostly, they're they're high school kids, 1259 01:12:35,479 --> 01:12:39,960 Speaker 1: are traumatops. But can somebody in the Republican community have 1260 01:12:40,280 --> 01:12:43,640 Speaker 1: the guts to really tell them what the heck is 1261 01:12:43,680 --> 01:12:46,519 Speaker 1: going on. I mean, you can be empathetic and yeah, 1262 01:12:46,560 --> 01:12:50,599 Speaker 1: this this kid was a troubled kid. He gave every 1263 01:12:50,640 --> 01:12:54,040 Speaker 1: morning fight imaginable. It could have been a car he 1264 01:12:54,160 --> 01:12:55,960 Speaker 1: drove into the school. It could have been a bomb. 1265 01:12:56,840 --> 01:13:02,000 Speaker 1: The crime isn't the weapon. The crime is that your community, 1266 01:13:02,439 --> 01:13:06,160 Speaker 1: your Shares Department, was supports numerous times they did nothing 1267 01:13:06,240 --> 01:13:10,320 Speaker 1: to protect the public. That's what the true storyline is. Well, 1268 01:13:10,360 --> 01:13:12,640 Speaker 1: I look, I I agree that they're they're well, I 1269 01:13:12,640 --> 01:13:14,800 Speaker 1: agree with what you're saying here. And Joe, thank you 1270 01:13:14,920 --> 01:13:16,439 Speaker 1: very much for calling him body y. Thank you for 1271 01:13:16,560 --> 01:13:19,599 Speaker 1: kind words about about the show as well. Look, Joe's 1272 01:13:19,640 --> 01:13:21,400 Speaker 1: only right. I mean a lot of Republicans have started 1273 01:13:21,439 --> 01:13:25,240 Speaker 1: running scared on this right away. You know, they've they've 1274 01:13:25,280 --> 01:13:28,920 Speaker 1: just been trying to appease the appease the rage mob, 1275 01:13:29,000 --> 01:13:31,160 Speaker 1: and that is never going to be successful. It's never 1276 01:13:31,200 --> 01:13:35,880 Speaker 1: a good idea. Daniel in Arkansas, Hey Daniel, Hey Buck, 1277 01:13:35,920 --> 01:13:38,559 Speaker 1: what's going on? Shield Dame? Not much shield time, My friend, 1278 01:13:39,240 --> 01:13:41,080 Speaker 1: I got a two part question for you. I'm gonna 1279 01:13:41,120 --> 01:13:42,679 Speaker 1: make it quick and then I'm gonna jump the line 1280 01:13:42,680 --> 01:13:44,719 Speaker 1: so I can. Let's do you over the radio, Roger 1281 01:13:44,800 --> 01:13:50,200 Speaker 1: that Sir. As far as I'm I know, the president 1282 01:13:50,240 --> 01:13:54,920 Speaker 1: could only be impeached for high crimes and misdemeanors if 1283 01:13:55,120 --> 01:13:58,719 Speaker 1: he commits said high crimes and misdemeaners while he's president 1284 01:13:58,760 --> 01:14:01,799 Speaker 1: of the United States. So if they haven't found anything yet, 1285 01:14:03,280 --> 01:14:07,320 Speaker 1: unless they're a fortune teller, they can't charge him with anything. 1286 01:14:08,120 --> 01:14:11,000 Speaker 1: I think high crimes and misdemeanors are. It's a pretty 1287 01:14:11,000 --> 01:14:13,760 Speaker 1: broad range that even would include some people say argue 1288 01:14:13,800 --> 01:14:17,920 Speaker 1: would include even non criminal activity um so or or 1289 01:14:18,000 --> 01:14:21,120 Speaker 1: low level criminal activity, I should say, And it's really 1290 01:14:21,200 --> 01:14:24,120 Speaker 1: up to the Congress. That's that's the it's a political 1291 01:14:24,560 --> 01:14:27,880 Speaker 1: it's much more a political tool than it is a 1292 01:14:27,920 --> 01:14:31,080 Speaker 1: criminal justice tool, Daniel. So we'll see. And you want 1293 01:14:31,120 --> 01:14:33,240 Speaker 1: to ask if he pardoned everybody in the Rushi investigation, 1294 01:14:33,240 --> 01:14:36,640 Speaker 1: because we're going to run a break here in a second. Um, 1295 01:14:36,720 --> 01:14:40,040 Speaker 1: he could. There's nothing that the president's pardon power is 1296 01:14:40,080 --> 01:14:43,760 Speaker 1: basically absolute, so he could pardon anyone if he just 1297 01:14:43,800 --> 01:14:46,360 Speaker 1: did a blanket pardon for anyone that saw on their 1298 01:14:46,439 --> 01:14:48,760 Speaker 1: list that they're going to call up, wouldn't they just 1299 01:14:48,800 --> 01:14:52,120 Speaker 1: have to end it? Uh No, I don't think he 1300 01:14:52,280 --> 01:14:55,360 Speaker 1: that's different than shutting down the investigation. But I have 1301 01:14:55,439 --> 01:14:56,960 Speaker 1: to think about that a little bit. But look, I'm 1302 01:14:57,000 --> 01:14:58,880 Speaker 1: I'm of the mind that he should pardon General Flynn. 1303 01:14:58,920 --> 01:15:00,880 Speaker 1: So I'll just go out there and say it. Daniel, 1304 01:15:00,880 --> 01:15:02,360 Speaker 1: thank you for your caugh markets all, my friend. I 1305 01:15:02,360 --> 01:15:05,640 Speaker 1: appreciate it. We're going to talk about Russian nukes and 1306 01:15:06,280 --> 01:15:12,679 Speaker 1: Chinese trade war. You are now entering the Freedom Tactical 1307 01:15:12,720 --> 01:15:17,000 Speaker 1: Operations Center. All sensative programs must be cats strictly need 1308 01:15:17,080 --> 01:15:21,800 Speaker 1: to know team buckets cleared and ready for the buck brief. 1309 01:15:22,680 --> 01:15:25,080 Speaker 1: After the United States withdrew from the A b M 1310 01:15:25,080 --> 01:15:29,280 Speaker 1: Treaty unilaterally, we've been working hard to create new, promising, 1311 01:15:29,760 --> 01:15:34,360 Speaker 1: repreated systems and this enabled us to make a big 1312 01:15:34,400 --> 01:15:39,360 Speaker 1: step forward creating new strategic arms. We have developed a 1313 01:15:39,400 --> 01:15:46,120 Speaker 1: new generation of missiles. But currently the Defense Ministry, who 1314 01:15:46,120 --> 01:15:50,839 Speaker 1: works together with the defense companies in the space industry, 1315 01:15:50,880 --> 01:15:55,439 Speaker 1: and they're testing a new missile system that uses a 1316 01:15:55,560 --> 01:16:00,280 Speaker 1: heavy I CBHM. Much scarier when putin saying it through 1317 01:16:00,280 --> 01:16:04,040 Speaker 1: a translator, but that was the Premier of Russia talking 1318 01:16:04,400 --> 01:16:06,720 Speaker 1: or his translator telling us what he's saying. But he 1319 01:16:06,760 --> 01:16:11,040 Speaker 1: was talking about the announcement today from Russia from the 1320 01:16:11,120 --> 01:16:14,800 Speaker 1: official account of the President and the various news news 1321 01:16:14,880 --> 01:16:20,680 Speaker 1: agencies there that they have developed a new series of 1322 01:16:21,240 --> 01:16:27,720 Speaker 1: nuclear weapons, including an undersea drone that has nuclear capability 1323 01:16:27,800 --> 01:16:32,080 Speaker 1: and also a a nuclear device that can a missile 1324 01:16:32,160 --> 01:16:34,960 Speaker 1: that can go basically through our radar without us being 1325 01:16:35,160 --> 01:16:38,840 Speaker 1: do anything about it. That's what they're claiming. Um, this 1326 01:16:39,280 --> 01:16:41,479 Speaker 1: is being taken by a lot of folks who watch 1327 01:16:41,640 --> 01:16:48,800 Speaker 1: Russia closely. Uh, with a grain assaults putin up there 1328 01:16:48,840 --> 01:16:52,600 Speaker 1: we go the little maybe you know, the hunt for 1329 01:16:52,640 --> 01:16:54,640 Speaker 1: Red October does come to mind with all of this, 1330 01:16:56,760 --> 01:17:01,720 Speaker 1: But the the realities here are this doesn't change the 1331 01:17:01,880 --> 01:17:05,240 Speaker 1: nuclear threat to United States from Russia, and it doesn't 1332 01:17:05,320 --> 01:17:07,720 Speaker 1: change that we would annihilate Russia in event of any 1333 01:17:07,760 --> 01:17:10,160 Speaker 1: kind of nuclear strike. We're still in the same place. 1334 01:17:10,840 --> 01:17:13,040 Speaker 1: Does anyone really think of Russia fired all of its 1335 01:17:13,280 --> 01:17:15,519 Speaker 1: nukes at us, we'd be able to shoot them all down? No, 1336 01:17:16,000 --> 01:17:19,040 Speaker 1: of course not um. Same thing as to a Russia 1337 01:17:19,160 --> 01:17:20,920 Speaker 1: if we fire all our stuff, they couldn't shot them 1338 01:17:20,920 --> 01:17:24,040 Speaker 1: all down either. So this is a bit of bluster, 1339 01:17:24,160 --> 01:17:28,880 Speaker 1: a bit of chest thumping from Putin um, and it 1340 01:17:29,000 --> 01:17:31,920 Speaker 1: is in part, at least, I think, driven by the 1341 01:17:31,920 --> 01:17:35,160 Speaker 1: fact that one he's got his re election coming up 1342 01:17:35,200 --> 01:17:39,479 Speaker 1: in a few weeks. The Russian president is expected to win, 1343 01:17:40,160 --> 01:17:44,880 Speaker 1: which is not surprising, but it's important for him for 1344 01:17:44,920 --> 01:17:47,800 Speaker 1: domestic political reasons to go out there and say that 1345 01:17:47,840 --> 01:17:52,640 Speaker 1: he's got invincible missiles. He is invincible. So that's what 1346 01:17:52,800 --> 01:17:57,080 Speaker 1: this is, at least in part, a reflection of right 1347 01:17:57,080 --> 01:17:58,800 Speaker 1: now that that's why he's running around talking about his 1348 01:17:58,840 --> 01:18:01,720 Speaker 1: invincible missiles that can get past our radar and do 1349 01:18:01,760 --> 01:18:06,000 Speaker 1: all this stuff. Um, but this doesn't change our strategic 1350 01:18:06,000 --> 01:18:09,200 Speaker 1: calculation about nukes, and it also doesn't change that Russia's 1351 01:18:09,240 --> 01:18:13,720 Speaker 1: economy is smaller than Canada's. Okay, Russia is We're gonna 1352 01:18:13,760 --> 01:18:15,759 Speaker 1: talking about China in a few minutes. China is scary 1353 01:18:15,920 --> 01:18:18,720 Speaker 1: long term. China is a problem, folks, not one that 1354 01:18:18,760 --> 01:18:21,240 Speaker 1: has any easy answers, and not one that we can ignore. 1355 01:18:22,479 --> 01:18:26,000 Speaker 1: Russia is a country with it's a very big military, 1356 01:18:26,080 --> 01:18:29,640 Speaker 1: with a very or at least a very powerful military, 1357 01:18:29,720 --> 01:18:35,479 Speaker 1: with a medium two small ish economy, especially given the 1358 01:18:35,479 --> 01:18:37,960 Speaker 1: side of the country. It's natural resources and everything else. 1359 01:18:38,640 --> 01:18:42,320 Speaker 1: So this is not something to be overly alarmed about. Seeing. 1360 01:18:42,320 --> 01:18:45,639 Speaker 1: People the immediate hot takes whenever Putin says anything, knows 1361 01:18:45,880 --> 01:18:49,080 Speaker 1: it is Trump gonna condemn it. Well, why should Trump 1362 01:18:49,080 --> 01:18:52,639 Speaker 1: condemn it when it's not as big of an issue 1363 01:18:52,680 --> 01:18:55,040 Speaker 1: as Putin is claiming? Right, Well, what's the point of that? 1364 01:18:55,760 --> 01:18:59,880 Speaker 1: Why antagonize the Russian premier when he's talking about a 1365 01:19:00,040 --> 01:19:02,240 Speaker 1: threat that's not even as big of a threat as 1366 01:19:02,800 --> 01:19:05,040 Speaker 1: he is trying to lead us, lead us into thinking. 1367 01:19:05,120 --> 01:19:07,919 Speaker 1: So that's part of Oh, but but there's the election 1368 01:19:08,080 --> 01:19:11,320 Speaker 1: in Russia. There's also what happened And if you listen 1369 01:19:11,360 --> 01:19:14,240 Speaker 1: to this show, you know in detail what happened some 1370 01:19:14,280 --> 01:19:18,960 Speaker 1: weeks ago in Syria where Russian paramilitaries fighting alongside the 1371 01:19:19,040 --> 01:19:24,679 Speaker 1: Assad regime went after a Kurdish base in eastern Syria 1372 01:19:25,320 --> 01:19:31,160 Speaker 1: and the Kurds called in artillery and air strikes and 1373 01:19:31,160 --> 01:19:35,160 Speaker 1: and it was a it was a blood bath. They lost. 1374 01:19:35,840 --> 01:19:39,479 Speaker 1: Estimates are in a couple of hundreds actually um for 1375 01:19:40,960 --> 01:19:44,080 Speaker 1: the losses, and it's a question of how many where 1376 01:19:44,080 --> 01:19:48,400 Speaker 1: Syrians versus how many were Russians. But that didn't that 1377 01:19:48,479 --> 01:19:51,200 Speaker 1: didn't sit well with the Russian government even though they 1378 01:19:51,200 --> 01:19:55,080 Speaker 1: were they were paramilitaries, they were contractors working for saw, 1379 01:19:55,200 --> 01:20:00,599 Speaker 1: not Russian uniform military. But there are Russian military, uh 1380 01:20:00,720 --> 01:20:04,439 Speaker 1: folks in Syria as well. And I mentioned. I think 1381 01:20:04,439 --> 01:20:07,400 Speaker 1: it was yesterday that we have our fighter planes coming 1382 01:20:07,400 --> 01:20:10,280 Speaker 1: into very close contact with their fighter planes in a 1383 01:20:10,320 --> 01:20:13,880 Speaker 1: way that some are saying is far too close for 1384 01:20:13,920 --> 01:20:16,640 Speaker 1: comfort and could lead to the shootdown of either a 1385 01:20:16,800 --> 01:20:20,639 Speaker 1: US or Russian plane, which would spiral US into a crisis, 1386 01:20:20,720 --> 01:20:24,639 Speaker 1: and a minimum and diplomatic, if not military crisis very quickly. 1387 01:20:25,320 --> 01:20:28,240 Speaker 1: So look the Russians, they're they're talking about this this 1388 01:20:28,360 --> 01:20:31,759 Speaker 1: technology that's out there that people have discussing for some time, 1389 01:20:32,280 --> 01:20:37,799 Speaker 1: hyper hypersonic glide vehicles which go I think five times 1390 01:20:37,840 --> 01:20:41,639 Speaker 1: the speed of sound and or I could be wrong 1391 01:20:41,680 --> 01:20:46,160 Speaker 1: about that, and essentially would allow the Russians to fire 1392 01:20:46,240 --> 01:20:49,000 Speaker 1: missile and hit anywhere in the world within a few hours. Now, 1393 01:20:50,000 --> 01:20:52,679 Speaker 1: the truth is that the Russians can already pretty much 1394 01:20:53,200 --> 01:20:56,840 Speaker 1: hit anywhere in the world in a few hours, so 1395 01:20:57,120 --> 01:20:58,679 Speaker 1: or at least they can hit anywhere in the world 1396 01:20:58,680 --> 01:21:01,040 Speaker 1: with their missiles, not necessarily as they can't do it 1397 01:21:01,040 --> 01:21:07,160 Speaker 1: at the speed of these hypersonic glide vehicles which I've 1398 01:21:07,160 --> 01:21:10,120 Speaker 1: been reading up on. I tell you this is where 1399 01:21:10,160 --> 01:21:12,840 Speaker 1: I am always very honest with you. I'm a a 1400 01:21:12,960 --> 01:21:17,760 Speaker 1: Jehadis and car bombs students, you know. I am not 1401 01:21:17,880 --> 01:21:21,760 Speaker 1: a student of advanced missile defense and that that is 1402 01:21:21,880 --> 01:21:25,799 Speaker 1: really a sub that is really a specialty within the 1403 01:21:25,880 --> 01:21:30,719 Speaker 1: overall discipline of military and national security analysis. This is true. 1404 01:21:30,880 --> 01:21:32,400 Speaker 1: You know, if you're at the Pentagon is placed, the 1405 01:21:32,400 --> 01:21:34,719 Speaker 1: people that are the missile people are not the people 1406 01:21:34,760 --> 01:21:37,200 Speaker 1: that are the counterinsurgency and counter terroris and people generally. 1407 01:21:37,200 --> 01:21:39,960 Speaker 1: It's just there's not there's not as much and not 1408 01:21:40,080 --> 01:21:43,200 Speaker 1: enough crossover on it. But I I've done research on it, 1409 01:21:43,240 --> 01:21:45,160 Speaker 1: and I wanted to just bring up the speed on 1410 01:21:45,560 --> 01:21:47,560 Speaker 1: what's going on with this whole Russia situation because the 1411 01:21:47,600 --> 01:21:51,280 Speaker 1: truth is that this is not anything to be overly 1412 01:21:51,280 --> 01:21:55,559 Speaker 1: concerned about. People are talking about the various treaties that 1413 01:21:55,600 --> 01:21:58,400 Speaker 1: this may have implications for, But the Russians have already 1414 01:21:58,520 --> 01:22:03,720 Speaker 1: violated the uh sort of the medium range Missile Treaty 1415 01:22:03,840 --> 01:22:07,960 Speaker 1: that we have with them, the Intermediate Range Nuclear Treaty, 1416 01:22:08,000 --> 01:22:11,120 Speaker 1: and there's the Start Treaty, which has been updated a 1417 01:22:11,120 --> 01:22:13,080 Speaker 1: couple of times. There. I think there's an update that's 1418 01:22:13,400 --> 01:22:18,040 Speaker 1: supposed to happen at some point the pretty near future. UH. Ultimately, 1419 01:22:18,080 --> 01:22:20,080 Speaker 1: we have got two turns with them. This may in 1420 01:22:20,200 --> 01:22:22,559 Speaker 1: fact be the nuclear turn is still in place. And 1421 01:22:22,600 --> 01:22:25,519 Speaker 1: this could be employed by the Russians to force us 1422 01:22:26,040 --> 01:22:31,679 Speaker 1: to the negotiating table to just talk about other things too, 1423 01:22:31,760 --> 01:22:35,120 Speaker 1: rite where they're gonna be a little more belligerent with 1424 01:22:35,200 --> 01:22:37,479 Speaker 1: the rhetoric on missiles, so that we come and talk 1425 01:22:37,560 --> 01:22:43,200 Speaker 1: them more about what's going on in Syria with Ukraine 1426 01:22:43,200 --> 01:22:47,000 Speaker 1: with the sanctions that they really do want sanctions gone, 1427 01:22:47,800 --> 01:22:51,639 Speaker 1: and we will see how that works out for them. 1428 01:22:51,680 --> 01:22:54,760 Speaker 1: But I wouldn't worry about about Putin and as invincible missiles, 1429 01:22:55,479 --> 01:22:59,280 Speaker 1: we still sleep soundly despite the fact that there are 1430 01:22:59,320 --> 01:23:02,479 Speaker 1: more countries now that have missiles, nuclear missiles and nuclearar 1431 01:23:02,520 --> 01:23:06,160 Speaker 1: abilities than did decades ago, and the Russians still have 1432 01:23:06,200 --> 01:23:09,759 Speaker 1: a whole lot of nukes, Chinese of nukes. Is plenty 1433 01:23:09,800 --> 01:23:12,479 Speaker 1: of countries out there right now that we just assume 1434 01:23:12,680 --> 01:23:14,600 Speaker 1: they won't step out of line because they know that 1435 01:23:14,640 --> 01:23:18,800 Speaker 1: the response from US would be annihilation. Uh. So we're 1436 01:23:18,840 --> 01:23:20,519 Speaker 1: gonna get Gordon Chang joining us you in a second. 1437 01:23:20,520 --> 01:23:25,280 Speaker 1: He's gonna weigh in on the tariffs in the steel industry. Uh, 1438 01:23:25,320 --> 01:23:28,200 Speaker 1: specifically that we'll deal with China um and some other 1439 01:23:28,240 --> 01:23:30,680 Speaker 1: aspects of US China foreign policy. So a lot of 1440 01:23:30,760 --> 01:23:35,200 Speaker 1: national security this hour, hour three of the Buck Sexton Show, 1441 01:23:35,240 --> 01:23:36,800 Speaker 1: and then later on we'll be joined by our friends 1442 01:23:36,840 --> 01:23:41,200 Speaker 1: from Black Rifle CEO and vice president. UM and that's 1443 01:23:41,200 --> 01:23:44,160 Speaker 1: where we're heading, So stay with me. Big news about 1444 01:23:44,280 --> 01:23:47,439 Speaker 1: China coming in today and we want to talk to 1445 01:23:47,520 --> 01:23:51,040 Speaker 1: Gordon Chang about it. He is the author of the 1446 01:23:51,120 --> 01:23:54,880 Speaker 1: Coming Collapse of China and a Daily Beast columnist. Gordon, 1447 01:23:54,920 --> 01:23:57,559 Speaker 1: great to have you, Thank you so much. Buck. So 1448 01:23:57,640 --> 01:24:00,800 Speaker 1: first let's let's talk a bit about the tariffs, because 1449 01:24:00,840 --> 01:24:03,519 Speaker 1: that's getting a lot of attention because it has people 1450 01:24:03,560 --> 01:24:06,479 Speaker 1: are saying cause quite a dip in the stock market 1451 01:24:06,520 --> 01:24:08,920 Speaker 1: for the day, but it also could be a harbinger 1452 01:24:09,040 --> 01:24:12,439 Speaker 1: of some economic troubles to come. What do you make 1453 01:24:12,479 --> 01:24:14,920 Speaker 1: of this? Is this long overdue? Or we play in 1454 01:24:15,000 --> 01:24:17,080 Speaker 1: high stakes poker we could lose. What do you think 1455 01:24:17,080 --> 01:24:20,719 Speaker 1: of the Trump move? Probably all of the above. UM. 1456 01:24:20,760 --> 01:24:23,880 Speaker 1: It's we have to remember that this was These tariffs 1457 01:24:23,920 --> 01:24:27,080 Speaker 1: are imposed under the authority of the Trade Expansion Act 1458 01:24:27,439 --> 01:24:31,880 Speaker 1: of nineteen sixty two. This is a national security measure. UM. 1459 01:24:31,920 --> 01:24:35,480 Speaker 1: These tariffs are set at levels so that the aluminum 1460 01:24:35,520 --> 01:24:39,559 Speaker 1: industry and the steel industry can be self sustaining. Because 1461 01:24:39,640 --> 01:24:41,839 Speaker 1: we need to make sure that We've got a steel 1462 01:24:41,920 --> 01:24:45,800 Speaker 1: and aluminum industry that can supply defense needs, so that's 1463 01:24:45,840 --> 01:24:49,080 Speaker 1: important for US apart from trade. You know, when it 1464 01:24:49,120 --> 01:24:52,519 Speaker 1: comes to trade, we don't know the details. It's going 1465 01:24:52,560 --> 01:24:55,600 Speaker 1: to take about a week for the administration to negotiate 1466 01:24:55,680 --> 01:24:59,200 Speaker 1: with other countries and to come up with final rules, 1467 01:24:59,560 --> 01:25:01,559 Speaker 1: and we'll just have to see how it goes. But 1468 01:25:01,680 --> 01:25:05,120 Speaker 1: I suspect that the harshest rules will be applied against 1469 01:25:05,200 --> 01:25:09,000 Speaker 1: China because China has been extremely predatory in flooding the 1470 01:25:09,000 --> 01:25:13,720 Speaker 1: world with excess steel and aluminum. They've been subsidizing producers 1471 01:25:13,800 --> 01:25:17,040 Speaker 1: in order to put our producers out of business. We 1472 01:25:17,160 --> 01:25:20,200 Speaker 1: got to do something. The Chinese may huff and puff, 1473 01:25:20,439 --> 01:25:23,480 Speaker 1: but we got to remember that we're the trade deficit country. 1474 01:25:23,680 --> 01:25:26,200 Speaker 1: Last year, we had a four d seventy billion dollar 1475 01:25:26,320 --> 01:25:31,240 Speaker 1: trade merchandise trade deficit with China. That four billion, by 1476 01:25:31,240 --> 01:25:35,080 Speaker 1: the way, was eight point eight percent of China's overall 1477 01:25:35,120 --> 01:25:38,479 Speaker 1: trade surplus. We've got an enormous amount of leverage here. 1478 01:25:39,040 --> 01:25:41,599 Speaker 1: And what do you think the next moves on the 1479 01:25:41,640 --> 01:25:44,800 Speaker 1: Trump team should be Gordon with regard to to dealing 1480 01:25:44,800 --> 01:25:47,200 Speaker 1: with China. Mean Trump has been promising and this goes 1481 01:25:47,200 --> 01:25:49,800 Speaker 1: all the back to the campaign that he would get 1482 01:25:50,439 --> 01:25:54,920 Speaker 1: fair and smart trade with China. From your estimation, what 1483 01:25:54,920 --> 01:25:57,559 Speaker 1: would that mean and how would that look? Well, I 1484 01:25:57,560 --> 01:25:59,679 Speaker 1: think the first thing that would mean is that we've 1485 01:25:59,760 --> 01:26:02,840 Speaker 1: first we've got to go against their theft of US 1486 01:26:02,920 --> 01:26:07,679 Speaker 1: intellectual property of the Chinese steel and estimated three hundred 1487 01:26:07,840 --> 01:26:11,120 Speaker 1: six hundred billion dollars a year in US i P. 1488 01:26:11,479 --> 01:26:13,720 Speaker 1: We've got to put a stop to that, and so 1489 01:26:14,240 --> 01:26:18,000 Speaker 1: Robert Lheiser, the US Trade Representative, has now got an 1490 01:26:18,000 --> 01:26:21,280 Speaker 1: ongoing investigation pursuingto Section three or one of the Trade 1491 01:26:21,320 --> 01:26:24,160 Speaker 1: Act of nineteen seventy four. We need to impose some 1492 01:26:24,280 --> 01:26:28,400 Speaker 1: stiff penalties to get the Chinese to stop this. Also, 1493 01:26:28,800 --> 01:26:32,560 Speaker 1: we know that China has been engaged in increasingly predatory 1494 01:26:32,680 --> 01:26:35,760 Speaker 1: moves to close off their market, especially with their Made 1495 01:26:35,760 --> 01:26:40,240 Speaker 1: in China initiative. They've identified ten sectors that they want 1496 01:26:40,360 --> 01:26:44,400 Speaker 1: Chinese companies to dominate, and you know they're closing off 1497 01:26:44,439 --> 01:26:48,200 Speaker 1: their markets through various means. We can't allow this to continue. 1498 01:26:48,720 --> 01:26:51,719 Speaker 1: They can't be allowed to continue to close their market 1499 01:26:51,720 --> 01:26:54,880 Speaker 1: while our market is open. That just doesn't work. What 1500 01:26:54,960 --> 01:26:57,560 Speaker 1: do you think the responses will be of the Chinese 1501 01:26:57,600 --> 01:27:01,240 Speaker 1: government to these actions? By the Trump administration. Well, you 1502 01:27:01,280 --> 01:27:04,840 Speaker 1: know they will. UM. They'll try to, for instance, um 1503 01:27:04,880 --> 01:27:08,759 Speaker 1: close off their markets even further to US agricultural products. 1504 01:27:09,080 --> 01:27:12,640 Speaker 1: Sorghum has been mentioned in this regard. But um, with 1505 01:27:12,720 --> 01:27:15,439 Speaker 1: the balance of trade. Um, you know, they could hurt 1506 01:27:15,520 --> 01:27:18,799 Speaker 1: us a little bit, we could hurt them a lot. Um. 1507 01:27:18,880 --> 01:27:22,479 Speaker 1: We we actually as Americans should know this because in 1508 01:27:22,560 --> 01:27:26,280 Speaker 1: the World's Great Trade War in the nineteen thirties, the 1509 01:27:26,320 --> 01:27:28,720 Speaker 1: country that got hurt the most was US because we 1510 01:27:28,720 --> 01:27:32,120 Speaker 1: were the world's trade surplus country. Now it's China's turn 1511 01:27:32,200 --> 01:27:35,000 Speaker 1: to be the trade surplus country. So we shouldn't be 1512 01:27:35,040 --> 01:27:39,080 Speaker 1: afraid of trade friction. I'm not welcoming it, but I 1513 01:27:39,120 --> 01:27:42,160 Speaker 1: am saying that we've got to protect ourselves and we've 1514 01:27:42,160 --> 01:27:45,760 Speaker 1: got to insist on China's adherence to trade bargains that 1515 01:27:45,840 --> 01:27:49,360 Speaker 1: it is made and so UM. At some point, you know, 1516 01:27:49,680 --> 01:27:52,280 Speaker 1: this has gone much too far. We've allowed the Chinese 1517 01:27:52,360 --> 01:27:55,360 Speaker 1: to take advantage of us. There are no longer any 1518 01:27:55,560 --> 01:27:58,920 Speaker 1: note cost solutions. Um. But you know, if people want 1519 01:27:58,920 --> 01:28:02,559 Speaker 1: to complain, they should be complaining about presidents named Clinton, 1520 01:28:02,640 --> 01:28:06,360 Speaker 1: Bush and Obama as much as Trump, because Trump inherited 1521 01:28:06,400 --> 01:28:09,640 Speaker 1: this situation. Gordon Chang's author of the Coming Collapse of 1522 01:28:09,720 --> 01:28:14,000 Speaker 1: China Gordon. There's also some news about consolidation of power 1523 01:28:14,200 --> 01:28:18,040 Speaker 1: by Chinese Premier Shijin Ping. And there are some news 1524 01:28:18,040 --> 01:28:20,840 Speaker 1: reports just in the last twenty four hours about the 1525 01:28:20,880 --> 01:28:26,400 Speaker 1: banning of some words in China for public discourse that 1526 01:28:26,600 --> 01:28:28,800 Speaker 1: seemed like the kind of things that might be used 1527 01:28:28,800 --> 01:28:32,559 Speaker 1: to describe she that would not necessarily be to his liking. 1528 01:28:32,640 --> 01:28:35,320 Speaker 1: What's going on? Well, yeah, we need the pooh is 1529 01:28:35,479 --> 01:28:40,480 Speaker 1: is now banned, so is Disney UM, the words I disagree, 1530 01:28:40,760 --> 01:28:43,960 Speaker 1: I mean, there are more and more words that are 1531 01:28:44,080 --> 01:28:47,840 Speaker 1: being um taken off the Chinese Internet, and the reason 1532 01:28:48,000 --> 01:28:51,800 Speaker 1: is that the Communist Party on Sunday announced that it 1533 01:28:51,880 --> 01:28:55,519 Speaker 1: was recommending to the National People's Congress, which will meet 1534 01:28:55,960 --> 01:28:58,320 Speaker 1: on starting on the fifth of this month, that they 1535 01:28:58,320 --> 01:29:02,479 Speaker 1: will recommend the abolition of the two term term limit 1536 01:29:02,880 --> 01:29:06,080 Speaker 1: or President of the country. That's president of the state. 1537 01:29:06,400 --> 01:29:11,360 Speaker 1: That's a relatively unimportant post. In China. They've got what's 1538 01:29:11,360 --> 01:29:14,679 Speaker 1: called the Trinity uh, and the presidency is only one 1539 01:29:14,680 --> 01:29:17,479 Speaker 1: of the trinity. The other two are General Secretary of 1540 01:29:17,479 --> 01:29:21,439 Speaker 1: the Communist Party and the chairman of the party's Central 1541 01:29:21,479 --> 01:29:26,040 Speaker 1: Military Commission. By far the presidency is the least important 1542 01:29:26,120 --> 01:29:29,439 Speaker 1: of the trinity, and what sign Ping has been showing 1543 01:29:29,479 --> 01:29:31,680 Speaker 1: the rest of the world is that although this is 1544 01:29:31,880 --> 01:29:35,120 Speaker 1: a ceremonial post, he is willing to go to any 1545 01:29:35,200 --> 01:29:37,519 Speaker 1: lengths to make sure that he can hang on to power. 1546 01:29:37,880 --> 01:29:40,840 Speaker 1: And that's chilling. Um So, at this point, we've got 1547 01:29:40,880 --> 01:29:43,479 Speaker 1: to assume that Sijun Ping wants to be, as they 1548 01:29:43,520 --> 01:29:47,120 Speaker 1: say in China, emperor for life, and that's going to 1549 01:29:47,200 --> 01:29:50,320 Speaker 1: have consequences that are royal in the Chinese political system. 1550 01:29:50,360 --> 01:29:53,280 Speaker 1: At the moment um, people in China aren't very happy 1551 01:29:53,320 --> 01:29:56,400 Speaker 1: about this for the most part, and China is probably 1552 01:29:56,400 --> 01:29:59,599 Speaker 1: gonna end up with a much more coercive political system 1553 01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:03,479 Speaker 1: and probably a much more belligerent external policy. Um So, 1554 01:30:03,520 --> 01:30:06,200 Speaker 1: this is bad news for everybody. That was the next 1555 01:30:06,280 --> 01:30:07,840 Speaker 1: question I was gonna ask you, Gordon, which is what 1556 01:30:08,040 --> 01:30:12,120 Speaker 1: becomes the external flash one of the most likely external 1557 01:30:12,160 --> 01:30:16,240 Speaker 1: flashpoints as she continues this consolidation of power over a 1558 01:30:16,280 --> 01:30:18,519 Speaker 1: country that you know, Russia gets a lot of talk 1559 01:30:18,560 --> 01:30:20,920 Speaker 1: these days, and we've been discussing Russian nukes even here 1560 01:30:20,960 --> 01:30:24,559 Speaker 1: on the show. But China is a long term, much 1561 01:30:24,640 --> 01:30:28,200 Speaker 1: bigger competitor to the United States. Both economically and militarily 1562 01:30:28,520 --> 01:30:31,880 Speaker 1: well certainly. Um. You know, and the question is like 1563 01:30:31,920 --> 01:30:33,880 Speaker 1: where are we going to see this? I mean it 1564 01:30:33,880 --> 01:30:37,400 Speaker 1: could be anywhere. China is trying to grab territory from 1565 01:30:37,560 --> 01:30:40,400 Speaker 1: India and and you can see that there's an arc 1566 01:30:40,479 --> 01:30:43,720 Speaker 1: of instability to its south and to its east, UM, 1567 01:30:44,400 --> 01:30:47,519 Speaker 1: going all the way up to South Korea. In the north. UM, 1568 01:30:47,600 --> 01:30:51,760 Speaker 1: you have China engaging in all sorts of dangerous activities 1569 01:30:51,840 --> 01:30:55,639 Speaker 1: along that periphery. It's trying to spread into the Indian Ocean. 1570 01:30:56,200 --> 01:30:59,400 Speaker 1: It wants to actually establish a base on the Atlantic Ocean. 1571 01:30:59,439 --> 01:31:02,200 Speaker 1: From what we can tell it Wallvis Bay in Namibia, 1572 01:31:02,640 --> 01:31:06,960 Speaker 1: they're snooping around the Azores. UM. You know, this is 1573 01:31:07,000 --> 01:31:09,160 Speaker 1: a country that just sort of thinks that it can 1574 01:31:09,200 --> 01:31:12,400 Speaker 1: take whatever it wants. And I can understand why they 1575 01:31:12,400 --> 01:31:14,919 Speaker 1: feel that way because we've had a succession of presidents 1576 01:31:14,920 --> 01:31:18,120 Speaker 1: who have not effectively opposed this expansion. Is UM. So 1577 01:31:18,240 --> 01:31:21,080 Speaker 1: we have emboldened the worst elements in the Chinese political 1578 01:31:21,120 --> 01:31:24,519 Speaker 1: system by showing everybody else that aggression works. You know, 1579 01:31:24,560 --> 01:31:27,439 Speaker 1: when they look back at this period. I hope that 1580 01:31:27,560 --> 01:31:31,439 Speaker 1: things go away and we don't have a global conflict. 1581 01:31:31,680 --> 01:31:33,800 Speaker 1: But if we do, buck people are gonna look at 1582 01:31:33,800 --> 01:31:35,920 Speaker 1: the United States in the same way they looked at 1583 01:31:35,920 --> 01:31:38,200 Speaker 1: Britain and France in the nineteen thirties and just ask 1584 01:31:38,560 --> 01:31:41,280 Speaker 1: why didn't you use your power to protect yourself and 1585 01:31:41,360 --> 01:31:43,720 Speaker 1: the rest of the world. Um. So I think we're 1586 01:31:43,760 --> 01:31:46,920 Speaker 1: going to be vulnerable to that if, um, you know, 1587 01:31:47,000 --> 01:31:50,760 Speaker 1: the Chinese actually do something horrible, because we've shown them 1588 01:31:50,920 --> 01:31:53,600 Speaker 1: that it's okay to be horrible. We complain about it, 1589 01:31:53,760 --> 01:31:55,720 Speaker 1: but we don't do anything about it. And that's for 1590 01:31:55,840 --> 01:31:58,120 Speaker 1: the reason why I think we've got to change our 1591 01:31:58,320 --> 01:32:01,479 Speaker 1: China policies quickly. Gordon, one more thing, if we let 1592 01:32:01,479 --> 01:32:05,480 Speaker 1: you go, tell me about broad coom and the possible 1593 01:32:05,600 --> 01:32:08,400 Speaker 1: takeover of Qualcomm and why that's something we should pay 1594 01:32:08,400 --> 01:32:12,360 Speaker 1: attention to. Yeah, broad Colm is a Singapore based company. Um, 1595 01:32:12,479 --> 01:32:16,200 Speaker 1: there's gonna be a proxy fight shareholder vote on Tuesday. 1596 01:32:16,800 --> 01:32:20,439 Speaker 1: Broad Common will probably win. Um. What Broadcom has done 1597 01:32:20,439 --> 01:32:24,559 Speaker 1: in the past is it sells off parts UM and 1598 01:32:24,600 --> 01:32:28,280 Speaker 1: then ruthlessly controls costs. The reason why this is important 1599 01:32:28,280 --> 01:32:32,320 Speaker 1: to us is because there is a struggle now for 1600 01:32:32,640 --> 01:32:37,280 Speaker 1: setting five G standards for cellular communications. Whoever controls five 1601 01:32:37,360 --> 01:32:40,040 Speaker 1: G is going to control communications for the next decade 1602 01:32:40,120 --> 01:32:42,880 Speaker 1: or so. The only American company that has a chance 1603 01:32:43,160 --> 01:32:47,360 Speaker 1: of establishing and winning the five G race is qual Calm. 1604 01:32:47,640 --> 01:32:50,160 Speaker 1: But there's no way Qualcom is gonna win if Broadcom 1605 01:32:50,280 --> 01:32:52,880 Speaker 1: takes it over, because they're just going to try to 1606 01:32:53,200 --> 01:32:56,400 Speaker 1: um sell it off. And so we have a national 1607 01:32:56,439 --> 01:32:58,839 Speaker 1: security issue here because we do not want the Chinese 1608 01:32:58,880 --> 01:33:01,960 Speaker 1: controlling self commune vacations for the rest of the world 1609 01:33:02,040 --> 01:33:04,800 Speaker 1: for about a decade. So it's in a sense the 1610 01:33:04,880 --> 01:33:07,679 Speaker 1: same reason we need a domestic steel industry for national 1611 01:33:07,720 --> 01:33:10,400 Speaker 1: security purpose. You're saying this is a commercial issue, but 1612 01:33:10,439 --> 01:33:15,080 Speaker 1: it's also a communications and therefore security issue as well. Yeah, 1613 01:33:15,200 --> 01:33:19,200 Speaker 1: and and um, Qualcom is so much more important than 1614 01:33:19,240 --> 01:33:23,720 Speaker 1: the steel or aluminum industries. So um, this is this 1615 01:33:23,800 --> 01:33:27,320 Speaker 1: is the lifeblood of America. It's it's innovation technology. And 1616 01:33:27,760 --> 01:33:31,040 Speaker 1: you know, we can't allow a state backed Chinese enterprise, 1617 01:33:31,080 --> 01:33:36,360 Speaker 1: which is Laweit Technologies, to dominate global communications for obvious reasons. 1618 01:33:36,360 --> 01:33:40,240 Speaker 1: So much more important than stealer aluminum. All Right, Gordon Shank, 1619 01:33:40,280 --> 01:33:43,240 Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining us. We appreciate it. Team. 1620 01:33:43,240 --> 01:33:46,000 Speaker 1: We're hitting a quick break. We'll be right back, uh 1621 01:33:46,040 --> 01:33:49,599 Speaker 1: and we'll have the folks from Black Rifle Coffee here 1622 01:33:49,640 --> 01:33:53,400 Speaker 1: in studio with us. We have the CEO, we have 1623 01:33:53,600 --> 01:33:57,360 Speaker 1: the vice president. They are veterans, they are great guys, 1624 01:33:57,360 --> 01:33:58,880 Speaker 1: and they're gonna tell us about the founding of their 1625 01:33:58,880 --> 01:34:02,799 Speaker 1: company and one of our a great a wonderful sponsor 1626 01:34:02,800 --> 01:34:05,400 Speaker 1: of the show, but also a great American story here 1627 01:34:05,520 --> 01:34:08,160 Speaker 1: of veterans and entrepreneurship. So we're excited to have up 1628 01:34:08,240 --> 01:34:10,120 Speaker 1: their their wave and I say, and they're they're coming in. 1629 01:34:10,280 --> 01:34:12,000 Speaker 1: We got the guys coming in right now. We'll be 1630 01:34:12,120 --> 01:34:14,960 Speaker 1: right back. Welcome back, everybody in the Freedom Hut. Today. 1631 01:34:15,000 --> 01:34:18,040 Speaker 1: We have a couple of guests with us. I am 1632 01:34:18,200 --> 01:34:22,439 Speaker 1: very pleased to bring on Evan Hayfer, CEO and founder 1633 01:34:22,680 --> 01:34:26,920 Speaker 1: of Black Rifle Coffee, and Matt Best, vice president and 1634 01:34:27,000 --> 01:34:30,120 Speaker 1: chief of Happiness for all Things Black Rifle. We have 1635 01:34:30,200 --> 01:34:32,080 Speaker 1: them here with this. As you guys all know, Black 1636 01:34:32,200 --> 01:34:34,200 Speaker 1: Rifle is a sponsor of the show. They also have 1637 01:34:34,439 --> 01:34:38,000 Speaker 1: a great backstory, a great message and mission, and so 1638 01:34:38,040 --> 01:34:39,599 Speaker 1: I want to bring them in to talk to everybody 1639 01:34:39,600 --> 01:34:41,719 Speaker 1: about how us all got started. Gentlemen, thank you for joining, 1640 01:34:41,720 --> 01:34:43,320 Speaker 1: Thanks for having us. Yeah, thanks for having us. We 1641 01:34:43,360 --> 01:34:48,120 Speaker 1: appreciate the opportunity. Mike so as as we went on air, 1642 01:34:48,160 --> 01:34:49,599 Speaker 1: I told them that the one thing I have to do, 1643 01:34:49,720 --> 01:34:51,240 Speaker 1: and this is important for all of you listening if 1644 01:34:51,240 --> 01:34:53,679 Speaker 1: you're ever in an interview situation on radio or TV, 1645 01:34:54,360 --> 01:34:56,360 Speaker 1: the one trick, and I've been told this by some 1646 01:34:56,400 --> 01:34:58,519 Speaker 1: of the bigger anchors in the business. You have to 1647 01:34:58,560 --> 01:35:00,599 Speaker 1: write the name down in front of you, even if 1648 01:35:00,600 --> 01:35:02,640 Speaker 1: someone gives you a sheet of paper, because if you 1649 01:35:02,680 --> 01:35:05,080 Speaker 1: get the name wrong, that's all anybody remembers. But you 1650 01:35:05,120 --> 01:35:07,160 Speaker 1: can call me whatever you want, because you guys are 1651 01:35:07,240 --> 01:35:09,559 Speaker 1: wonderful sponsors here of the show, and I'm really pleased 1652 01:35:09,560 --> 01:35:12,200 Speaker 1: to have you, Uh Evan tell me about how this 1653 01:35:12,240 --> 01:35:15,439 Speaker 1: all got started. I mean, a couple of spec ops guys. Coffee. 1654 01:35:15,439 --> 01:35:18,320 Speaker 1: It doesn't necessarily well, yeah, there's the first thing you 1655 01:35:18,360 --> 01:35:20,519 Speaker 1: think about. I'm just saying it's not. No, it doesn't, 1656 01:35:20,560 --> 01:35:22,960 Speaker 1: I think. And for years guys used to make fun 1657 01:35:23,000 --> 01:35:26,360 Speaker 1: of me for being such a coffee head. I started 1658 01:35:26,439 --> 01:35:28,920 Speaker 1: roasting coffee ten years ago, but my love affair with 1659 01:35:29,000 --> 01:35:32,519 Speaker 1: coffee started twenty years ago. I was an analyst. I 1660 01:35:32,520 --> 01:35:34,360 Speaker 1: feel like I'm supposed to be the latte master, but 1661 01:35:34,400 --> 01:35:37,439 Speaker 1: apparently you're a time Yeah, I I was, you know, 1662 01:35:37,560 --> 01:35:40,840 Speaker 1: I I've spent some time behind an espresso machine. I've 1663 01:35:40,880 --> 01:35:43,960 Speaker 1: spent some time on the roaster. For me, coffee started 1664 01:35:44,320 --> 01:35:48,400 Speaker 1: twenty plus years ago, you know, n with with falling 1665 01:35:48,439 --> 01:35:51,320 Speaker 1: in love with espresso and just diving into the art 1666 01:35:51,360 --> 01:35:56,000 Speaker 1: of it and deploying back and forth into Iraq in Afghanistan, 1667 01:35:56,360 --> 01:35:59,000 Speaker 1: well my entire adult life. Can you tell a little 1668 01:35:59,000 --> 01:36:00,840 Speaker 1: about your military? By the way, for a lot of 1669 01:36:00,880 --> 01:36:02,920 Speaker 1: the folks listening, they may not know that not just 1670 01:36:02,960 --> 01:36:04,640 Speaker 1: a guy who knows a lot about coffee. And then like, 1671 01:36:04,640 --> 01:36:07,160 Speaker 1: why is Buck saying he's such a renaissance man coffee? 1672 01:36:07,280 --> 01:36:10,240 Speaker 1: Like there are reasons, Yeah, I I suppose so I've 1673 01:36:10,240 --> 01:36:12,400 Speaker 1: been called that before. I don't know if I necessarily 1674 01:36:12,439 --> 01:36:15,639 Speaker 1: weren't the title, but I was a Green Beret for 1675 01:36:16,120 --> 01:36:18,840 Speaker 1: well for several years, and then I transitioned over as 1676 01:36:18,880 --> 01:36:21,720 Speaker 1: a contractor to the CIA for a little while. I 1677 01:36:21,760 --> 01:36:23,960 Speaker 1: spent about five years on the ground in Iraq and 1678 01:36:24,000 --> 01:36:28,080 Speaker 1: another couple in Afghanistan. I did several trips as as 1679 01:36:28,120 --> 01:36:31,519 Speaker 1: you know how those trips go, uh, typically around ninety 1680 01:36:31,520 --> 01:36:35,520 Speaker 1: twenty days. But I'd spend most of my time overseas 1681 01:36:35,680 --> 01:36:38,840 Speaker 1: in Iraq, Afghanistan, a few other places around the world. 1682 01:36:39,680 --> 01:36:42,560 Speaker 1: I found that having a great cup of coffee in 1683 01:36:42,600 --> 01:36:46,200 Speaker 1: the morning was was really important to me, and I 1684 01:36:46,240 --> 01:36:49,320 Speaker 1: started roasting coffee just for that because I couldn't find 1685 01:36:49,720 --> 01:36:52,479 Speaker 1: the coffee that I wanted. And you know, uh, and 1686 01:36:52,560 --> 01:36:56,320 Speaker 1: Matt knows, the coffee Overseas really just doesn't get it done. 1687 01:36:56,360 --> 01:36:59,439 Speaker 1: It's bad coffee. It didn't kind of what they call 1688 01:36:59,520 --> 01:37:01,720 Speaker 1: it coffee ruble. I would just throw ice cubes in 1689 01:37:01,760 --> 01:37:03,719 Speaker 1: it and just throw it down as quick as possible 1690 01:37:03,720 --> 01:37:05,919 Speaker 1: because I didn't care about the taste. I just wanted caffeine. 1691 01:37:06,040 --> 01:37:08,360 Speaker 1: And I was the same way I I just I 1692 01:37:08,400 --> 01:37:10,439 Speaker 1: fell in love with it. I started diving into the 1693 01:37:10,479 --> 01:37:14,240 Speaker 1: roast profiles really deeply around two thousand eight, and one 1694 01:37:14,280 --> 01:37:16,000 Speaker 1: of my bags I would take Overseas was full of 1695 01:37:16,040 --> 01:37:18,439 Speaker 1: fresh roasted coffee and the other was full of like 1696 01:37:18,680 --> 01:37:21,759 Speaker 1: kit So everybody knew when I was coming into the country, 1697 01:37:21,800 --> 01:37:23,640 Speaker 1: everybody knew what kind of coffee it was going to 1698 01:37:23,720 --> 01:37:27,200 Speaker 1: be bringing. And more importantly, it just it made me 1699 01:37:27,320 --> 01:37:30,880 Speaker 1: kind of immerse myself into something completely different than what 1700 01:37:30,920 --> 01:37:33,280 Speaker 1: I was doing in in combat zones. It gave me 1701 01:37:33,400 --> 01:37:35,960 Speaker 1: kind of a recreational therapy in a way that I 1702 01:37:36,360 --> 01:37:39,760 Speaker 1: really could excel at something outside of combat, right, Matt, 1703 01:37:39,800 --> 01:37:42,600 Speaker 1: You also have a military background, and tell us a 1704 01:37:42,640 --> 01:37:44,320 Speaker 1: bit about that and how you guys linked up to 1705 01:37:44,400 --> 01:37:48,439 Speaker 1: start a veteran owned and operated business in this area. Absolutely. 1706 01:37:48,439 --> 01:37:50,880 Speaker 1: I'm a form arm ranger, did five deployments with Second 1707 01:37:50,960 --> 01:37:53,839 Speaker 1: Range of Retalion, got out, didn't really like the civilian 1708 01:37:53,880 --> 01:37:56,120 Speaker 1: sector too much because I had a little difficult time 1709 01:37:56,120 --> 01:38:00,000 Speaker 1: assimilating back into you know, it's it's difficult especially be 1710 01:38:00,120 --> 01:38:02,920 Speaker 1: playing more for so many years. And then I started 1711 01:38:02,920 --> 01:38:05,559 Speaker 1: contracting with the agency as well. And then during that time, 1712 01:38:05,560 --> 01:38:08,439 Speaker 1: which is actually really funny story, I was um an 1713 01:38:08,439 --> 01:38:11,600 Speaker 1: Afford operating base and there was an expresso machine and 1714 01:38:11,600 --> 01:38:13,479 Speaker 1: it had to be like fifteen thou dollars And I'm 1715 01:38:13,479 --> 01:38:16,280 Speaker 1: sitting there going why did the government waste that much 1716 01:38:16,280 --> 01:38:18,759 Speaker 1: money on an espresso machine? Will come to find out 1717 01:38:19,040 --> 01:38:22,080 Speaker 1: Evan head course, the uh the guys doing supply to 1718 01:38:22,120 --> 01:38:24,519 Speaker 1: purchase that machine just a couple of years before. So 1719 01:38:24,880 --> 01:38:26,880 Speaker 1: when I linked up with Evan with Black Rifle Coffee 1720 01:38:26,960 --> 01:38:29,160 Speaker 1: is like, of course you did that. Evan. Of course 1721 01:38:29,200 --> 01:38:32,320 Speaker 1: you convinced the government to buy this amazing espresso machines 1722 01:38:32,320 --> 01:38:34,559 Speaker 1: so you could develop your roast profiles while you were 1723 01:38:34,960 --> 01:38:37,840 Speaker 1: playing more. It wasn't hard, It really wasn't. They came 1724 01:38:37,880 --> 01:38:39,640 Speaker 1: to me and asked me what kind of machine, and 1725 01:38:40,000 --> 01:38:41,840 Speaker 1: literally I was like, well, if you're gonna ask me, 1726 01:38:42,000 --> 01:38:43,960 Speaker 1: what kind of a budget do we have? And that's 1727 01:38:43,960 --> 01:38:46,439 Speaker 1: your taxpayer dollars hard at work, That's what they wanted. 1728 01:38:46,600 --> 01:38:48,280 Speaker 1: The first thing I do every day is drink coffee. 1729 01:38:48,280 --> 01:38:50,840 Speaker 1: And as I say on the show constantly, first thing 1730 01:38:50,840 --> 01:38:52,200 Speaker 1: I do every day is in fact, to drink some 1731 01:38:52,240 --> 01:38:54,840 Speaker 1: black rifle coffee. So thank you, gentlemen very much for that. 1732 01:38:55,240 --> 01:38:57,439 Speaker 1: I'm a silencer smooth guy. For the most part. I 1733 01:38:57,479 --> 01:38:59,240 Speaker 1: mixed it up a little bit. I'm also freedom Blend, 1734 01:38:59,280 --> 01:39:01,240 Speaker 1: but I like the silence smooth. But I wanted you 1735 01:39:01,280 --> 01:39:03,840 Speaker 1: to tell me a little bit, Evan, about what you're 1736 01:39:04,760 --> 01:39:07,640 Speaker 1: about the mission of hiring veterans. And you have one 1737 01:39:07,680 --> 01:39:10,360 Speaker 1: story in particularly really stuck out to me about how 1738 01:39:10,720 --> 01:39:13,280 Speaker 1: you don't just have veterans of the United States Armed 1739 01:39:13,320 --> 01:39:17,240 Speaker 1: Forces working for you, actually have some foreign auxiliaries who 1740 01:39:17,360 --> 01:39:21,280 Speaker 1: worked alongside US forces from Afghanistan who have immigrated to 1741 01:39:21,320 --> 01:39:24,280 Speaker 1: the United States. That's a pretty amazing story. Yeah, I 1742 01:39:24,320 --> 01:39:26,160 Speaker 1: think a lot of guys, you know, we're known for 1743 01:39:26,240 --> 01:39:29,320 Speaker 1: hiring veterans because we've we've got above fifty percent hiring 1744 01:39:29,680 --> 01:39:33,280 Speaker 1: uh with veterans along our our entire workforce. We're rolling 1745 01:39:33,280 --> 01:39:35,240 Speaker 1: out a pretty big expansion over the next year. We're 1746 01:39:35,240 --> 01:39:37,960 Speaker 1: gonna try to maintain that fifty Obviously, it's all based 1747 01:39:37,960 --> 01:39:40,400 Speaker 1: on how many applicants we can get. So go to 1748 01:39:40,400 --> 01:39:42,400 Speaker 1: Black Rifle Coffee dot com and you can take a 1749 01:39:42,400 --> 01:39:44,920 Speaker 1: look at, you know, to take a look at the 1750 01:39:45,000 --> 01:39:47,480 Speaker 1: job openings that we have. Will be hiring people in Nashville, 1751 01:39:47,600 --> 01:39:52,439 Speaker 1: San Antonio, Sparks, Nevada. Uh, and the the Afghans, these 1752 01:39:52,479 --> 01:39:55,599 Speaker 1: guys that we actually worked with overseas in Cobba Province. 1753 01:39:55,640 --> 01:39:59,599 Speaker 1: They were commandos that worked for the Americans alongside of them. 1754 01:40:00,160 --> 01:40:03,160 Speaker 1: One particular, Wally, We did a video on him. You 1755 01:40:03,200 --> 01:40:05,800 Speaker 1: could go to YouTube and check that out. But Uh, 1756 01:40:05,840 --> 01:40:08,720 Speaker 1: he was with us basically right after the invasion of 1757 01:40:08,760 --> 01:40:14,080 Speaker 1: Afghanistan all the way through fifteen. Um so he was 1758 01:40:14,120 --> 01:40:17,400 Speaker 1: with us basically for fourteen years, and he had been 1759 01:40:17,439 --> 01:40:21,679 Speaker 1: on thousands of direct action missions, which you know is 1760 01:40:21,800 --> 01:40:26,439 Speaker 1: basically direct action meek. Yeah, he's a door kicker. Uh. 1761 01:40:26,479 --> 01:40:30,759 Speaker 1: He went from private to commander h throughout that fourteen years. 1762 01:40:31,120 --> 01:40:34,280 Speaker 1: He was having to move his family every six months 1763 01:40:34,320 --> 01:40:37,920 Speaker 1: to protect them, survived multiple ambushes, not only you know, 1764 01:40:37,960 --> 01:40:41,080 Speaker 1: with his unit, but with his family. Uh, he applied 1765 01:40:41,120 --> 01:40:45,200 Speaker 1: received refugee status. He immigrated into the United States. Um 1766 01:40:45,560 --> 01:40:48,240 Speaker 1: was working in a gas station when we when we 1767 01:40:48,240 --> 01:40:50,479 Speaker 1: got a hold of him, we my business partner and 1768 01:40:50,520 --> 01:40:53,240 Speaker 1: I were talking. He actually thought he was killed a 1769 01:40:53,280 --> 01:40:55,880 Speaker 1: couple of years back. So when he reached out, we 1770 01:40:55,880 --> 01:40:59,080 Speaker 1: were not only like pleasantly surprised, but we were the 1771 01:40:59,120 --> 01:41:01,200 Speaker 1: first thing we said, we let's get him on a plan, 1772 01:41:01,280 --> 01:41:03,600 Speaker 1: lets get him out here. So uh, got him on 1773 01:41:03,600 --> 01:41:06,479 Speaker 1: a plane, got him a house, got him taking care 1774 01:41:06,479 --> 01:41:08,960 Speaker 1: of He's got six kids, so he just had another 1775 01:41:09,160 --> 01:41:13,400 Speaker 1: another little one actually. And now we've got a total 1776 01:41:13,640 --> 01:41:16,880 Speaker 1: of five Afghan former Afghan commanders that work for us 1777 01:41:17,040 --> 01:41:20,240 Speaker 1: in our production shop. So they're printing T shirts and 1778 01:41:20,280 --> 01:41:23,000 Speaker 1: doing a bunch of things for us. But fantastic guys. 1779 01:41:23,000 --> 01:41:25,680 Speaker 1: And I think that's the thing that Americans really need 1780 01:41:25,720 --> 01:41:28,920 Speaker 1: to understand. Two is uh, you know, shoulder to shoulder, 1781 01:41:28,960 --> 01:41:31,920 Speaker 1: there's been a heavy burden placed on the American veteran 1782 01:41:31,960 --> 01:41:35,160 Speaker 1: but also there's a lot of Afghans and Iraqis that 1783 01:41:35,200 --> 01:41:38,400 Speaker 1: were heavy that we're carrying just as much of the 1784 01:41:38,479 --> 01:41:42,920 Speaker 1: combat load out there, and those guys were defending your 1785 01:41:42,960 --> 01:41:45,960 Speaker 1: freedom just as they were defending mine and defending us 1786 01:41:46,000 --> 01:41:50,440 Speaker 1: down range. We do owe them an incredible amount of gratitude, 1787 01:41:50,880 --> 01:41:53,879 Speaker 1: and that's a debt that that I'm focused on repaying, 1788 01:41:53,920 --> 01:41:57,120 Speaker 1: not only to the veteran community, but in my lifetime. 1789 01:41:57,160 --> 01:42:00,639 Speaker 1: This is the single most uh prominent thing in my life, 1790 01:42:00,680 --> 01:42:04,519 Speaker 1: which was the American foreign wars that we've been involved in. Uh. 1791 01:42:04,560 --> 01:42:07,720 Speaker 1: My ethical responsibility to the nation is to make sure 1792 01:42:07,800 --> 01:42:10,920 Speaker 1: that I can primarily focus on the men and women 1793 01:42:11,200 --> 01:42:14,120 Speaker 1: that have been fighting the wars that we've been in 1794 01:42:14,200 --> 01:42:17,160 Speaker 1: for I mean, we invaded Iraq in two thousand one. 1795 01:42:17,200 --> 01:42:19,559 Speaker 1: We can all do math. There's thousands of men and 1796 01:42:19,600 --> 01:42:23,960 Speaker 1: women out there, Americans and foreigners that need They don't 1797 01:42:23,960 --> 01:42:27,040 Speaker 1: need a hand out, they need an opportunity to hand up. 1798 01:42:27,640 --> 01:42:31,880 Speaker 1: And my responsibility as a business is to make sure 1799 01:42:31,920 --> 01:42:36,720 Speaker 1: that we're growing the company and maintaining that ethical orientation, 1800 01:42:36,840 --> 01:42:39,880 Speaker 1: to make sure that we're always making making sure that 1801 01:42:39,960 --> 01:42:43,360 Speaker 1: we can put the veteran first ahead of everything else. 1802 01:42:43,640 --> 01:42:45,839 Speaker 1: So that's that's the main mission in Black Rafic Coffee. 1803 01:42:45,840 --> 01:42:48,160 Speaker 1: So we've got Evan hey for CEO of Black Rifle 1804 01:42:48,200 --> 01:42:50,559 Speaker 1: Coffee in studio with us right now, and Matt Best 1805 01:42:50,680 --> 01:42:55,080 Speaker 1: vice president uh and happiness Guru um, as well as 1806 01:42:55,120 --> 01:42:57,960 Speaker 1: just all all around, all around God takes care all 1807 01:42:58,040 --> 01:42:59,960 Speaker 1: kinds of things. Right. I've seen the videos, my friend, 1808 01:43:00,040 --> 01:43:03,600 Speaker 1: the videos are exceptionable. We we definitely have fun and 1809 01:43:03,640 --> 01:43:06,040 Speaker 1: it's obviously, say it's a statirical representation of my values. 1810 01:43:06,040 --> 01:43:09,320 Speaker 1: You know, we're obviously constitutionalists and pre Second Amendment and 1811 01:43:09,360 --> 01:43:11,200 Speaker 1: we like to have fun with it and obviously be safe. 1812 01:43:11,200 --> 01:43:13,120 Speaker 1: Tell me a bit about the expansion though, what's going 1813 01:43:13,200 --> 01:43:16,000 Speaker 1: on now in eighteen you guys are I mean, I 1814 01:43:16,040 --> 01:43:17,599 Speaker 1: know a little bit about it because I'm actually gonna 1815 01:43:17,600 --> 01:43:19,519 Speaker 1: be with you in Savannah next week for the opening 1816 01:43:19,520 --> 01:43:21,760 Speaker 1: of it with your first brick and mortar store that 1817 01:43:21,800 --> 01:43:25,040 Speaker 1: will be actually our third and mortar store, thank you. Um. Yeah, 1818 01:43:25,080 --> 01:43:28,240 Speaker 1: we're moving our headquarters down to San Antonio, Texas, so 1819 01:43:28,600 --> 01:43:31,320 Speaker 1: taking corporate there. There's just gonna be a lot of opportunity, 1820 01:43:31,320 --> 01:43:33,559 Speaker 1: and the veteran pool down there is significantly larger, so 1821 01:43:33,640 --> 01:43:36,200 Speaker 1: we hope to you know, employ a lot more vegans 1822 01:43:36,240 --> 01:43:38,120 Speaker 1: down there, and then we're gonna be rolling out brick 1823 01:43:38,160 --> 01:43:40,200 Speaker 1: and mortar and retail and just a lot of cool stuff. 1824 01:43:40,200 --> 01:43:42,840 Speaker 1: Expanding the company and just chasing opportunity and trying to 1825 01:43:42,840 --> 01:43:45,040 Speaker 1: give it back to the community as well. Bernie folks listening, 1826 01:43:45,040 --> 01:43:46,559 Speaker 1: by the way, if they want to join in Savannah, 1827 01:43:46,560 --> 01:43:48,320 Speaker 1: how would they find out about the event? If they 1828 01:43:48,320 --> 01:43:50,080 Speaker 1: want to come buy some gear and check out the 1829 01:43:50,640 --> 01:43:54,880 Speaker 1: bounced castles, the gear or what else is gonna be there. Yeah, 1830 01:43:54,920 --> 01:43:57,519 Speaker 1: we're doing that with nine Lines. So nine Line Apparel 1831 01:43:57,600 --> 01:44:00,439 Speaker 1: is you know, we're opening a coffee shop in side 1832 01:44:00,439 --> 01:44:02,960 Speaker 1: of their business, so they can go check nine Line out. 1833 01:44:03,000 --> 01:44:05,360 Speaker 1: They can check us out on social media. We're gonna 1834 01:44:05,360 --> 01:44:09,400 Speaker 1: be posting throughout that entire time. Uh, March ninth and tenth, 1835 01:44:09,560 --> 01:44:11,960 Speaker 1: and I'll be there, a bunch of other cool veterans 1836 01:44:12,000 --> 01:44:13,920 Speaker 1: will be there hanging out and shaking hands and just 1837 01:44:13,960 --> 01:44:17,479 Speaker 1: having a good time. Yeah, we've got helicopters to get 1838 01:44:17,479 --> 01:44:19,559 Speaker 1: all kinds of stuff going on out of the bounce castles. 1839 01:44:19,600 --> 01:44:22,120 Speaker 1: All right, bounce castles are fine, but helicopters that a 1840 01:44:22,160 --> 01:44:24,320 Speaker 1: little spice to things. Well, a right, everybody check them out. 1841 01:44:24,320 --> 01:44:28,000 Speaker 1: Evan Hayfer CEO and Matt Best, vice president of Black 1842 01:44:28,080 --> 01:44:30,040 Speaker 1: Rifle Coffee and thank you John, by the way, for 1843 01:44:30,200 --> 01:44:33,320 Speaker 1: being wonderful sponsors of the show. We are very pleased 1844 01:44:33,320 --> 01:44:35,439 Speaker 1: and honored to have you, and thanks for coming in studio. 1845 01:44:35,520 --> 01:44:39,080 Speaker 1: Thanks well everyone. I hope you enjoyed our conversation with 1846 01:44:39,479 --> 01:44:42,080 Speaker 1: Evan and Matt from Black Rifle. They're they're great guys. 1847 01:44:42,160 --> 01:44:44,719 Speaker 1: I'm actually gonna be joining them right after the show 1848 01:44:44,800 --> 01:44:47,600 Speaker 1: here for some drinks out on the town, catching up 1849 01:44:47,640 --> 01:44:51,160 Speaker 1: about things. And it's always fun to talk to some 1850 01:44:51,280 --> 01:44:55,000 Speaker 1: guys who worked on the national security side of things. 1851 01:44:55,040 --> 01:44:57,439 Speaker 1: So we can tell tell stories about well they can 1852 01:44:57,479 --> 01:45:00,519 Speaker 1: tell war stories about Iraq and Afghanist and I can 1853 01:45:00,560 --> 01:45:04,639 Speaker 1: tell uh memo, you know, and and analysis stories about 1854 01:45:04,640 --> 01:45:07,240 Speaker 1: a rocket Afghanistan. It's a good it's good time. Nonetheless 1855 01:45:07,280 --> 01:45:11,720 Speaker 1: good time. We get to rap on all that stuff. So, uh, 1856 01:45:12,280 --> 01:45:15,200 Speaker 1: this is where we get into, as you know, roll 1857 01:45:15,280 --> 01:45:23,519 Speaker 1: call tea. So yesterday it was almost an accident. I 1858 01:45:23,560 --> 01:45:26,920 Speaker 1: was trying to download one song to use for roll 1859 01:45:26,960 --> 01:45:30,479 Speaker 1: call from my desktop and I pulled something that was 1860 01:45:30,600 --> 01:45:33,040 Speaker 1: not for roll Call. But what I noticed a lot 1861 01:45:33,080 --> 01:45:35,160 Speaker 1: of you were like, you know what, it's better, and 1862 01:45:35,240 --> 01:45:37,640 Speaker 1: so we've decided that instead of having the little like 1863 01:45:38,280 --> 01:45:43,200 Speaker 1: a little drummer boy thing there. Uh, Instead of that, 1864 01:45:43,720 --> 01:45:45,880 Speaker 1: we are gonna try to mix it up a little 1865 01:45:45,880 --> 01:45:48,080 Speaker 1: bit and and have a little more a little more 1866 01:45:48,120 --> 01:45:53,040 Speaker 1: audio audio variety here on the show. And so we're 1867 01:45:53,040 --> 01:45:54,640 Speaker 1: gonna try to spice it up and surprise you with 1868 01:45:54,680 --> 01:45:57,120 Speaker 1: our role call tunes and and just in general, we're 1869 01:45:57,120 --> 01:46:00,040 Speaker 1: gonna try to mix up some of the what I 1870 01:46:00,160 --> 01:46:02,960 Speaker 1: call I guess they call it is imaging the correct term, John, right, 1871 01:46:03,000 --> 01:46:06,040 Speaker 1: the yeah, imaging, which is weird because an image is 1872 01:46:06,040 --> 01:46:08,920 Speaker 1: something you see, and yet in radio it's all audio. 1873 01:46:09,080 --> 01:46:12,280 Speaker 1: But now now I'm talking nonsense. Who cares? All Right, 1874 01:46:12,479 --> 01:46:17,240 Speaker 1: these are your thoughts, your whimsical references, whatever you've got 1875 01:46:17,320 --> 01:46:20,759 Speaker 1: for me, and you can add to them of course 1876 01:46:20,840 --> 01:46:25,920 Speaker 1: at facebook dot com slash buck Sexton, Facebook dot com 1877 01:46:25,920 --> 01:46:28,920 Speaker 1: slashbuck Sexton, and let's send me your thoughts. Let's get 1878 01:46:28,920 --> 01:46:32,320 Speaker 1: into it. Uh. First up, Eric, I was catching up 1879 01:46:32,320 --> 01:46:35,759 Speaker 1: on your podcast and heard you are coming to Savannah. 1880 01:46:35,960 --> 01:46:39,040 Speaker 1: I am in charge of the Savannah Police Canine Unit. 1881 01:46:39,520 --> 01:46:41,080 Speaker 1: It would be cool if we could meet you at 1882 01:46:41,160 --> 01:46:43,000 Speaker 1: nine line and get a picture with you and a 1883 01:46:43,040 --> 01:46:46,160 Speaker 1: couple of our canine handlers and their dogs. I would 1884 01:46:46,160 --> 01:46:48,799 Speaker 1: love to put it on our Facebook page. Savannah Police 1885 01:46:48,840 --> 01:46:51,240 Speaker 1: Canain Unit. If you don't mind what day you're gonna 1886 01:46:51,280 --> 01:46:54,200 Speaker 1: be here, Eric, not only or not mine? That sounds awesome. 1887 01:46:54,800 --> 01:46:57,240 Speaker 1: Count me in. I will be down in Savannah and 1888 01:46:57,240 --> 01:47:01,320 Speaker 1: I'll be hanging with Nine Line and Black Rifle on Friday. Um, 1889 01:47:01,680 --> 01:47:04,400 Speaker 1: not this Friday, the March nine, I think it is. 1890 01:47:04,439 --> 01:47:06,759 Speaker 1: So I'll be and any of you, any of you listening, 1891 01:47:06,760 --> 01:47:08,640 Speaker 1: if you wanna, and it's not just me, you'll hang 1892 01:47:08,640 --> 01:47:11,160 Speaker 1: out with you know, Matt and Evan, the Black Rifle guys, 1893 01:47:11,160 --> 01:47:14,240 Speaker 1: the Nine Line guys. Tyler will be there, he's the CEO. 1894 01:47:14,520 --> 01:47:16,800 Speaker 1: His crew will be there. Uh. It should be a 1895 01:47:16,800 --> 01:47:20,360 Speaker 1: lot of fun and you can come check it out. 1896 01:47:20,400 --> 01:47:23,559 Speaker 1: It's just at the Nine Line apparel store and Black 1897 01:47:23,680 --> 01:47:27,160 Speaker 1: Rifles opening a franchise in this store. So it'll be 1898 01:47:27,200 --> 01:47:29,479 Speaker 1: a great time down in Savannah. And yes, Eric of 1899 01:47:29,520 --> 01:47:33,400 Speaker 1: the Canine Unit, by all means, my friend, please do 1900 01:47:33,720 --> 01:47:36,360 Speaker 1: tell folks that I'll be there, and I'll be there 1901 01:47:36,360 --> 01:47:38,720 Speaker 1: probably around lunchtime during the day on Friday, and I'll 1902 01:47:38,760 --> 01:47:40,160 Speaker 1: just be hanging out for a few hours and I'll 1903 01:47:40,200 --> 01:47:41,760 Speaker 1: leave to do my radio show. That's the way it's 1904 01:47:41,760 --> 01:47:47,759 Speaker 1: gonna go. Next up here, Um, Frank writes hi Buck Trump, 1905 01:47:47,840 --> 01:47:51,120 Speaker 1: saying I like taking guns away first before due process. 1906 01:47:51,600 --> 01:47:54,880 Speaker 1: It is is exactly what cops do or try to 1907 01:47:54,920 --> 01:47:57,240 Speaker 1: do every time they come upon somebody with a weapon 1908 01:47:57,280 --> 01:48:02,040 Speaker 1: who is obviously a threat. Um okay, Frank, I mean 1909 01:48:02,479 --> 01:48:05,960 Speaker 1: there's the there is something about officers safety that is 1910 01:48:06,000 --> 01:48:09,799 Speaker 1: actually a provisional law that officers have. This is why 1911 01:48:09,880 --> 01:48:11,639 Speaker 1: they can ask you have anything sharp on you, even 1912 01:48:11,680 --> 01:48:13,280 Speaker 1: if you haven't committed a crime. Do you have anything 1913 01:48:13,280 --> 01:48:15,280 Speaker 1: sharp on you? Do you have anything? And they can 1914 01:48:15,320 --> 01:48:18,560 Speaker 1: take that for the purposes of the interaction. Now, like 1915 01:48:18,720 --> 01:48:21,599 Speaker 1: I was never uniformed officer or on patrol, So if 1916 01:48:21,600 --> 01:48:24,599 Speaker 1: I'm messing up any of the I had the patrol 1917 01:48:24,640 --> 01:48:26,120 Speaker 1: guy that I had to read it when I worked 1918 01:48:26,120 --> 01:48:29,080 Speaker 1: for the NYPD, But I was not the guy who 1919 01:48:29,120 --> 01:48:33,639 Speaker 1: was putting the bracelets on cool term for handcuffs. Uh. 1920 01:48:34,000 --> 01:48:36,080 Speaker 1: The other thing is I always like the some of 1921 01:48:36,080 --> 01:48:38,800 Speaker 1: the cop terminology that I picked up. Like in New York, 1922 01:48:38,960 --> 01:48:42,600 Speaker 1: whatever precinct you work in, somebody will ask you and 1923 01:48:42,640 --> 01:48:44,559 Speaker 1: you say, that's what I turn out of. What do 1924 01:48:44,600 --> 01:48:47,040 Speaker 1: you turn out of? Turn out of the sixteenth I 1925 01:48:47,120 --> 01:48:50,280 Speaker 1: turn out of the nineteenth precinct. And if somebody ever 1926 01:48:50,320 --> 01:48:52,639 Speaker 1: says you know, I work for the twenty third precinct. 1927 01:48:52,720 --> 01:48:55,200 Speaker 1: It's like, no, you didn't, No, you didn't. By the way, 1928 01:48:55,200 --> 01:48:57,120 Speaker 1: this is also applies to a whole lot of c 1929 01:48:57,280 --> 01:49:00,120 Speaker 1: I a lingo. I could always tell if somebody is 1930 01:49:00,120 --> 01:49:03,360 Speaker 1: either embellishing or not really what they say they are 1931 01:49:03,400 --> 01:49:05,720 Speaker 1: because of just certain things that people will say who 1932 01:49:05,720 --> 01:49:09,479 Speaker 1: worked in the agency versus people who maybe like showed 1933 01:49:09,560 --> 01:49:11,840 Speaker 1: up one day for a meeting's you know, as as 1934 01:49:11,920 --> 01:49:16,240 Speaker 1: a government counterpart or something. Anyway, Uh, let's see what 1935 01:49:16,280 --> 01:49:21,960 Speaker 1: we got here next in the inbox, Um, Mike, Uh, 1936 01:49:22,160 --> 01:49:24,160 Speaker 1: just laugh at a joke you talked about the other day. 1937 01:49:24,240 --> 01:49:26,680 Speaker 1: I was in the county team meeting today and it 1938 01:49:26,720 --> 01:49:29,960 Speaker 1: was announced that we officially are no longer countering ISSL, 1939 01:49:30,400 --> 01:49:33,439 Speaker 1: but we will be defeating ISIS. I thought you would 1940 01:49:33,520 --> 01:49:36,479 Speaker 1: enjoy the humor in that distinction. Well, yes, I certainly do. 1941 01:49:37,160 --> 01:49:40,040 Speaker 1: And I was always on the right side of this issue. 1942 01:49:40,479 --> 01:49:45,080 Speaker 1: I was not saying IL because it was pedantic nonsense 1943 01:49:45,600 --> 01:49:49,120 Speaker 1: and there was just no reason because here's you don't 1944 01:49:49,160 --> 01:49:51,400 Speaker 1: you okay, let me explain, because that people say a 1945 01:49:51,439 --> 01:49:54,599 Speaker 1: buckets about it. No, it's not about disrespect to Israel. Guys, Okay, 1946 01:49:54,640 --> 01:49:59,439 Speaker 1: it's it's because this Obama would say is because the 1947 01:49:59,439 --> 01:50:02,880 Speaker 1: same reason he it's a Pakistan and total Luban, because 1948 01:50:02,920 --> 01:50:06,080 Speaker 1: he thought it sounded more sophisticated. And Obama was the 1949 01:50:06,120 --> 01:50:11,280 Speaker 1: prophetsorial genius president, right, So that was what I was 1950 01:50:11,320 --> 01:50:16,040 Speaker 1: all about. But levant, the purpose of an acronym is 1951 01:50:16,080 --> 01:50:18,479 Speaker 1: to simplify things, as you all know, and those of 1952 01:50:18,479 --> 01:50:21,320 Speaker 1: you who are military or former intel like me, now 1953 01:50:21,439 --> 01:50:23,720 Speaker 1: that you go through this whole period where you can 1954 01:50:23,840 --> 01:50:26,799 Speaker 1: have conversations, it just feels like one acronym after another. 1955 01:50:28,120 --> 01:50:31,519 Speaker 1: But levant is a term that that honestly, very few 1956 01:50:31,560 --> 01:50:35,080 Speaker 1: people know so to use an acronym, and one of 1957 01:50:35,120 --> 01:50:37,880 Speaker 1: the words in the acronym you're choosing to use is 1958 01:50:37,920 --> 01:50:42,360 Speaker 1: a complex term that isn't even really a geographic It 1959 01:50:42,439 --> 01:50:47,280 Speaker 1: isn't really geographically defined. Uh. It's just bizarre. And I'm 1960 01:50:47,320 --> 01:50:49,080 Speaker 1: so glad that we finally got rid of it was 1961 01:50:49,120 --> 01:50:52,240 Speaker 1: just Obama, the White House and some of the Executive 1962 01:50:52,280 --> 01:50:56,800 Speaker 1: branch agencies because Obama random that we're doing that. So anyway, yes, 1963 01:50:56,880 --> 01:50:59,600 Speaker 1: it is. Isis the Islamic state of Iraq and Syria. 1964 01:50:59,840 --> 01:51:01,920 Speaker 1: I've been saying for a long time we should rebrand 1965 01:51:02,080 --> 01:51:06,360 Speaker 1: the al Qaeda franchise in which is obviously not ISIS, 1966 01:51:06,439 --> 01:51:09,280 Speaker 1: but we should. It was jabbattal Nusra, and and now 1967 01:51:09,280 --> 01:51:11,920 Speaker 1: there's been some realignments and changes, and I forget what's 1968 01:51:11,920 --> 01:51:14,000 Speaker 1: going on with it. The I'm out up on the 1969 01:51:14,240 --> 01:51:18,559 Speaker 1: g hottest uh war lord is m that's going on 1970 01:51:18,600 --> 01:51:20,880 Speaker 1: inside of Syria right now, as as I have been 1971 01:51:20,880 --> 01:51:24,080 Speaker 1: in previous months. But I can tell you that we 1972 01:51:24,080 --> 01:51:26,439 Speaker 1: should have just called instead of jibbattal Nusra, which was 1973 01:51:26,479 --> 01:51:29,519 Speaker 1: the al Qaeda franchise, could have just called them al 1974 01:51:29,600 --> 01:51:34,439 Speaker 1: Qaeda in Syria? Why not a q s right there? 1975 01:51:34,560 --> 01:51:36,759 Speaker 1: We do this everywhere else. A QUSA is al Qaida 1976 01:51:36,840 --> 01:51:40,679 Speaker 1: South Asia, a Qui al Qaeda Iraq, Like why everyone's're 1977 01:51:40,680 --> 01:51:43,000 Speaker 1: gonna go jabuttal Nusra? And then everyone's like, oh do 1978 01:51:43,040 --> 01:51:45,880 Speaker 1: I spell it with the apostrophes and it gets all complicated. 1979 01:51:45,960 --> 01:51:49,439 Speaker 1: So anyway, Um, I did not get through nearly enough 1980 01:51:50,560 --> 01:51:53,519 Speaker 1: of your thoughts today, folks. I promised you tomorrow will 1981 01:51:53,520 --> 01:51:57,439 Speaker 1: have a more robust roll call and we'll have cooler 1982 01:51:57,560 --> 01:51:59,519 Speaker 1: music too, all right, So John, hold me to it. 1983 01:51:59,520 --> 01:52:01,559 Speaker 1: We gotta have cool music tomorrow for a roll call, 1984 01:52:02,280 --> 01:52:04,559 Speaker 1: because we're hit here in the Freedom Hunt. We know 1985 01:52:04,640 --> 01:52:07,720 Speaker 1: how to party. She'll tie h