WEBVTT - Bengals Booth Podcast: Two Tribes

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<v Speaker 1>I get everybody on Dan Horde and thanks for downloading

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<v Speaker 1>The Bengals Booth Podcast. The When Two Tribes Go to Woo. Addition,

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<v Speaker 1>as we look ahead to Sunday's AFC Championship Game rematch

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<v Speaker 1>between the Bengals and Kansas City Chiefs, coming up a

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<v Speaker 1>bucket list interview for me as I discuss round three

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<v Speaker 1>of the Joe Burrow Patrick Mahomes matchup with the Great

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<v Speaker 1>Jim Nance from CBS. We'll hear from Jamar Chase on

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<v Speaker 1>returning from his hip fracture and Ted Harris on why

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<v Speaker 1>he walked off the field spewing f bombs at Tennessee.

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<v Speaker 1>And finally, and this week's Know the Faux segment, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>pick the brain of former Chief's offensive lineman Joe Valerio.

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<v Speaker 1>to My Cause, My Cleats. Now, let's get to Sunday's game.

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<v Speaker 1>Last January, in a span of four weeks, the Bengals

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<v Speaker 1>pulled off two upset wins over the Chiefs that rank

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<v Speaker 1>among the most thrilling wins in team history. In Game one,

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<v Speaker 1>the Bengals trailed fourteen nothing twenty one Evan and twenty

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<v Speaker 1>eight fourteen before rallying to win at a walk off

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<v Speaker 1>field goal at the end of regulation by Evan McPherson.

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<v Speaker 1>In Game two, the Bengals trailed twenty one to three

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<v Speaker 1>with less than two minutes to go in the half

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<v Speaker 1>before fighting back again. This time, the game went to

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<v Speaker 1>overtime before a Von Bell interception led to another game

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<v Speaker 1>winner by Money Matt four years ago. He was a

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<v Speaker 1>senior in high school in tiny Fort Payne, Alabama. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>the Bengal Super Bowl chances rest on his right foot.

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<v Speaker 1>The kick is up. Yeah, yeah, good coffin nails. Bam bam.

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<v Speaker 1>That is unblievable. The Cincinnati Bengals bound from behind on

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<v Speaker 1>the road. Unbelievable. Dan, it is no fluke. It is

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<v Speaker 1>a fact. The Cincinnati Bengals are headed to Super Bowl

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<v Speaker 1>fifty six. They just redefined the word resilient. The winds

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<v Speaker 1>stopped Patrick Mahomes from getting to the Super Bowl for

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<v Speaker 1>the third consecutive year, and one of the biggest reasons

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<v Speaker 1>why is that Joe Burrow matched him throw for throw

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<v Speaker 1>in their two meetings. Burrow through for six hundred ninety

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<v Speaker 1>six yards Mahome through for five thirty four. Joe had

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<v Speaker 1>more touchdown passes six to five and fewer interceptions two

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<v Speaker 1>to one. Here's what Tyler Boyd had to say this

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<v Speaker 1>week about the matchup between the twenty seven year old

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<v Speaker 1>Mahomes and the twenty five year old Burrow. I think

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of looked back of it as like a

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<v Speaker 1>Manning and Brady you know, because you kind of can't

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<v Speaker 1>stop him. You know, it's gonna come down to whoever

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<v Speaker 1>um excel and secondvantage of their opportunities in drives, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and score points, you know, with these are the type

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<v Speaker 1>of games when we play. We got to care of

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<v Speaker 1>the football and um, don't don't don't, don't turn it over?

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<v Speaker 1>Who's manning and who's Brady? I mean, is Burrow in

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<v Speaker 1>my homes? You know, I wouldn't compare them, but I

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<v Speaker 1>know those are two guys that you know has records

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<v Speaker 1>for the fastest two quarterbacks to reach ten thousand yards.

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<v Speaker 1>So I mean it's kind of hard to stop Burrow.

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<v Speaker 1>It's kind of hard to stop Mahomes. So I mean

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<v Speaker 1>at the end of the day, I think Burrow won

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<v Speaker 1>up two up teams. So yeah, so whichever one you

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<v Speaker 1>want to pick, whoever got the most wins and there

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<v Speaker 1>you go. Sunday's game will have a huge TV audience

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<v Speaker 1>at four twenty five on CBS, and this week I

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<v Speaker 1>checked an item off my interviewing bucket list by catching

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<v Speaker 1>up with a play by play announcer for this week's game.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember the famous Saturday Night Live bit when Chris Farley

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<v Speaker 1>is interviewing Paul McCartney, and he's so starstruck that he

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<v Speaker 1>can barely get out of question. Well, this interview might

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<v Speaker 1>go the same way as I have the opportunity to

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<v Speaker 1>visit with one of my broadcasting heroes, Jim Nance. Jim,

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<v Speaker 1>You and Tony called both Bengals Chiefs games back in January.

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<v Speaker 1>Obviously they were thrillers. Have you had this one circled

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<v Speaker 1>down the schedule since the NFL schedule came out in May? Absolutely?

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<v Speaker 1>And Dan, thank you for that build up. My gosh,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not worthy, but I really truly appreciate you so much.

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<v Speaker 1>You're an absolute pros pro and it's an honor to

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<v Speaker 1>be on here with you. I've been thinking about this

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<v Speaker 1>game since since before the schedule came out, because it

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<v Speaker 1>was one of those games I was afraid we might lose.

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to make sure that it landed in our inventory.

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<v Speaker 1>So into April when the league did announce what games

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<v Speaker 1>are going to go on what date, I was thrilled

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<v Speaker 1>to see that we had this in the doubleheader window

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<v Speaker 1>to open up December. It's big, it's gigantic, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>pretty amazing to be able to have a matchup technically

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<v Speaker 1>three times in one calendar year for teams that aren't

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<v Speaker 1>even in the same division. I'll be in the same conference,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's a rarity, and they have been down to

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<v Speaker 1>the wire thrillers the first two and I expect it

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<v Speaker 1>will be the same thing come Sunday. So earlier this week,

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<v Speaker 1>Tyler Boyd said that Burrow versus Mahomes is the new

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<v Speaker 1>version of Brady versus Manning. You called a bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>those games. Does this feel similar to you? Yeah? I

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<v Speaker 1>think I called somewhere around eleven or twelve of their

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<v Speaker 1>seventeen matchups. So you know, the thing that's missing here

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<v Speaker 1>is just time. I mean they're still in their twenties.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean they're still in their basically in their mid twenties,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's a little early to go that far with it.

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate what Tyler's trying to say. The other thing

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<v Speaker 1>you have here is you have a lot of really

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<v Speaker 1>young stars at that position. You can't take anything away

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<v Speaker 1>from what Joe's accomplished so far. It's enormous course Patrick

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<v Speaker 1>as well, But you've got Josh Allen sitting out there,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know you've got You've got Lamar Jackson and

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<v Speaker 1>you've got Justin Herbert and there are others, So it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's a little early, but it's on track, I think,

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<v Speaker 1>is what he's trying to really say. They're on track

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<v Speaker 1>because they're playing in super Bowls and they've played now

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<v Speaker 1>in three between them, so yes, it has a chance

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<v Speaker 1>to potentially be there if their teams keep winning. And

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<v Speaker 1>these guys number nine and number fifteen, they know nothing

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<v Speaker 1>but how to win. One of the things I admire

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<v Speaker 1>so much about your work is the ability to say

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<v Speaker 1>just the right thing in the big moments. And here's

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<v Speaker 1>what you said when Evan McPherson hit the field goal

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<v Speaker 1>that sent the Bengals to the Super Bowl. This could

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<v Speaker 1>be a sentence that a month ago would have sounded incomprehensible.

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<v Speaker 1>McPherson from thirty one yards out and Cincinnati has headed

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<v Speaker 1>to the super Bowl. The word incomprehensible was perfect. Were

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<v Speaker 1>you and Tony just stunned by what you had witnessed?

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's fair to say, especially since it was

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<v Speaker 1>twenty one to three right before the half, and you've

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<v Speaker 1>got Kansas City at home, so you don't expect anything

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<v Speaker 1>like that to turn around that quickly. At Arrowhead. I

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<v Speaker 1>had interestingly, another twenty one to three lead in an

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<v Speaker 1>AFC championship game, And that gets back to your last question.

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<v Speaker 1>That was Brady and Manning, and that was in the

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<v Speaker 1>first months of two thousand and seven. But in this case,

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<v Speaker 1>Indianapolis was the team that was down twenty one to

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<v Speaker 1>three and playing at home, so they were able to

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<v Speaker 1>come back stitch it together. They kicked the field goal

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<v Speaker 1>before the half to make it twenty one to six,

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<v Speaker 1>and Peyton led them back to a thirty eight thirty

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<v Speaker 1>four victory. So at the time it was the biggest

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<v Speaker 1>comeback in championship game history. Only to see the Bengals

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<v Speaker 1>all these years later come and do the same thing.

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<v Speaker 1>But the Cincinnati wins even more impressive because it was

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<v Speaker 1>on the road. It wasn't just any stadium. It was

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<v Speaker 1>in the most raucous, highest descibel level stadium supposedly in

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<v Speaker 1>the entire league. So it was an amazing achievement. But

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you think about their playoff run and how

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<v Speaker 1>they beat the Raiders and how they want it Tennessee,

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<v Speaker 1>and how they worked their way through these games and

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<v Speaker 1>their late season surge, including that regular season matchup at

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<v Speaker 1>since against KC. It was. It was a storybook. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it really was. But you know they're that good that there.

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<v Speaker 1>They stumbled out of the gates this year, but seven

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<v Speaker 1>out of nine have gone their way since and oh

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<v Speaker 1>and two start and they're good. I mean, this team

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<v Speaker 1>has really come together earlier than it came together last year. Jim,

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<v Speaker 1>after the game, you interviewed Mike Brown on the stage.

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<v Speaker 1>And Mike is not Jerry Jones. He's a private person.

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<v Speaker 1>He doesn't do a lot of interviews. Have you interacted

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<v Speaker 1>with him much over the years, and what did you

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<v Speaker 1>think of that moment. I've had some really special times

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<v Speaker 1>with him, and he probably doesn't remember them, but I do.

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<v Speaker 1>And I've met up with him a few times standing

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<v Speaker 1>on the sideline when we've been able to watch practice,

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<v Speaker 1>and I've always been intrigued and I've always respect that

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<v Speaker 1>the man. I don't think he gets any kind of

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<v Speaker 1>due nationally because you said it. He's not a guy

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<v Speaker 1>that's going to try to put himself out there and

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<v Speaker 1>build up his name. He's not seeking any attention. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not saying the other guys are seeking attention. It's just

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<v Speaker 1>he's a background guy. He's a football guy. And I've

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<v Speaker 1>always enjoyed him, I really have. And it's just there's

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<v Speaker 1>something about him that is so basic, so normal, so

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<v Speaker 1>much like the guy next door. I've just I've admired him.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, in some ways, I've I tried to model

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<v Speaker 1>my career in some of those same principles. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>the game is the thing, and not trying to draw

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<v Speaker 1>attention on what I'm doing. That's at least what I'm

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<v Speaker 1>always internalizing. And I think that's what Mike Brown is

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<v Speaker 1>all about. And he's been successful for a long time.

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<v Speaker 1>Every team's had lean years, every franchise has. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the Bengals have had their share of Super Bowl appearances too.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know there are a lot of a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of teams that we know that have never even gotten

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<v Speaker 1>to the game. And anyway, he has put together this

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<v Speaker 1>organizations put together a pretty darn good nucleus. Right now,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll give you one other example. What he did, what

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<v Speaker 1>he did with was Zach, what he did with his

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<v Speaker 1>coach to be able to to ride out those first

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<v Speaker 1>couple of years and when five or six games the

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<v Speaker 1>first two years total. But they have faith that this

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<v Speaker 1>was the right guy to lead them and He's impressive

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<v Speaker 1>until you got an impressive coach there in Cincinnati. So

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<v Speaker 1>Mike saw it, mister Brown saw it, and here they

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<v Speaker 1>are and making ready to make another run. We are

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<v Speaker 1>visiting with the great Jim Nance. This is not the

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<v Speaker 1>first Bengals game that you and Tony have called this year.

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<v Speaker 1>You had Bengals Cowboys back in Week two. Cincinnati obviously

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<v Speaker 1>fell to oh and two and they lost that game.

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<v Speaker 1>They're seven and two cents. What do you think of

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<v Speaker 1>the way the Bengals are playing right now? Well, the

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<v Speaker 1>big difference I think it's early in the year, Dan,

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<v Speaker 1>is that the offensive line has stabilized now and they've

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<v Speaker 1>figured it out through good coaching. They have figured out

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<v Speaker 1>how to how to build, how to grow, and how

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<v Speaker 1>to become a unit in sync in concert with one another.

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<v Speaker 1>There have been on some other guys that have stepped up.

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<v Speaker 1>What t Higgins did over the last month was pretty impressive.

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<v Speaker 1>What Trent Irwin tid stepping in was impressive. What Somaji's

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<v Speaker 1>done out of the backfield with with mixing out last

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<v Speaker 1>week and the week before that in the Pittsburgh game,

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<v Speaker 1>there are a lot of there's a lot of depth there.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's the thing, and they just needed that

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<v Speaker 1>offensive line to gel on that side. And you know, defensively,

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<v Speaker 1>I think they're they've also found themselves stabilized. They've had

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<v Speaker 1>some guys that didn't play earlier in the year that

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<v Speaker 1>are playing, you know, a lot of snaps now and

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<v Speaker 1>playing some good football. Typically, the day before the game,

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<v Speaker 1>the broadcast crew has the opportunity to visit with some

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<v Speaker 1>of the coaches and play. Can you describe what a

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Burrow Tony Romo meeting is like the meeting of

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<v Speaker 1>number Nine's? Uh, it's it's been good. Joe is a

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<v Speaker 1>mature guy, you know, for as young as he really is,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's you know, he's he's confident, but he's not

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<v Speaker 1>over confident. And Tony is one of these just individuals

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<v Speaker 1>that likes to build people up. And I love that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's one of the many things that I admire about

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<v Speaker 1>my teammate. I love the guy myself, and we have

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<v Speaker 1>so much fun together. But when he's when he's in

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<v Speaker 1>a room with young quarterbacks, he's rooting for him and

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<v Speaker 1>I think he wants them to know that he's on

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<v Speaker 1>their side, and he likes to just I'd like to

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<v Speaker 1>sit back and listen to the two of them talk.

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<v Speaker 1>Because Tony, as you could tell, sees everything. By the

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<v Speaker 1>way Joe's he's way beyond his years in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>like understanding what's going on to field and seeing things

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<v Speaker 1>in the game slowing down and all of that. Throws

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<v Speaker 1>a beautiful football. I know Tony admires that too, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's a it's a good meeting of the minds,

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<v Speaker 1>it really is. Jimmy famously have a replica of the

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<v Speaker 1>Part three seventh hole at Pebble Beach at your home

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<v Speaker 1>in California. I understand that Patrick Mahomes has played it.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you learn anything about Patrick Mahomes from his visit? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>Patrick came out like the week before COVID hit in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty, and he was a wonderful guy. Brittany was

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<v Speaker 1>with him and we ended up playing two rounds of golf,

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<v Speaker 1>real golf, not the golf in my backyard. We played

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<v Speaker 1>Cypress Point Club and we played Pebble Beach. The first

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<v Speaker 1>hole at Cypress Point is not easy, and he hit

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<v Speaker 1>it over the green on a like a severe downhill

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<v Speaker 1>lie with a back hole location with the green running

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<v Speaker 1>away from him. So to pitch it and keep it

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<v Speaker 1>on the green. Already gonna get it on the green.

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<v Speaker 1>Once it landed the green, pretty good odds it was

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<v Speaker 1>going to run all the way down to the front

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<v Speaker 1>off the green, back down the fairway. He pitched it in.

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<v Speaker 1>First of all, a home's magic. So thought, oh, that's interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I've been playing golf that long. And when we

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<v Speaker 1>were playing back then, he didn't hit a driver. He

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<v Speaker 1>hit three wood. He did not how to hit his driver,

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<v Speaker 1>but the three wood would suffice. I mean, hit that

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<v Speaker 1>three wood about three hundred and thirty yards. I'm not kidding.

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<v Speaker 1>He could pound it. But then he did come to

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<v Speaker 1>the house and hit some balls in the backyard. He

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<v Speaker 1>trying desperately to make a hole in one. I have

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<v Speaker 1>a huge boulder there that has the names engrave for

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<v Speaker 1>those who have made a hole in one guests. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't put my own name on there. Of course, I've

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<v Speaker 1>hit thousands of balls. There's out of dumb luck. I've

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<v Speaker 1>made it a few times. I have been twenty two

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<v Speaker 1>holes and one by guests. And Patrick, unfortunately is not

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<v Speaker 1>on the Rock of Fame yet. He came close a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of times. I've got the video of it. We

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<v Speaker 1>had a blast. I will say this is a terrible

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<v Speaker 1>name dropping on my part, Dan, but I've had some

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<v Speaker 1>really super NFL quarterbacks who have given it their best

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<v Speaker 1>shot that just because they love to come out to

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<v Speaker 1>Pebble and I spend my summers there and you know

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<v Speaker 1>it's a bucket list place. But whether it would be

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<v Speaker 1>Patrick or Josh Allen, who's had many a go at,

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<v Speaker 1>it hasn't made it justin Herbert Ben, Roethlisberger, Joe Montana.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean there are some serious there's some serious talent

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<v Speaker 1>that's been up there. Romo made it. He's the only

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback that has made it, but there are others too

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<v Speaker 1>from around the league that have given it their best.

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<v Speaker 1>We haven't had Joe Burrow there. But if Joe ever

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<v Speaker 1>hears you know about this, about this little chat, I

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<v Speaker 1>hope he those divided and I'm there in February, June,

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<v Speaker 1>and July. All he's got to do is call me

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<v Speaker 1>and you have my number. He is just starting out

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<v Speaker 1>as a golfer, so he might be intimidated, but I

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<v Speaker 1>will let him know that the invitation has been extended. Jim,

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<v Speaker 1>this isn't my cause. My cleats weekend and you won't

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<v Speaker 1>be wearing cleats in the booth, but I know if

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<v Speaker 1>you were, what your cause would be. You have been

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<v Speaker 1>really involved in the fight against Alzheimer's disease. Can you

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<v Speaker 1>describe some of the things that you and your wife

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<v Speaker 1>have done well. We opened up a research institute in Houston.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you for bringing that up, Dan, It's truly my cause.

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<v Speaker 1>Fifty two weeks a year and virtually every day of

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<v Speaker 1>my life, I'm involved with what's going on down at

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<v Speaker 1>Houston Methodist Hospital, which is the home of the NANCE

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<v Speaker 1>National Alzheimer Center. By the way, the NANCE is for

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<v Speaker 1>not the one you're speaking to, but for my dad,

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<v Speaker 1>my late father. I named it after my dad. I

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<v Speaker 1>wrote the check. I had a vision of how to

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<v Speaker 1>open it up, how I wanted this to to have

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<v Speaker 1>a place in the world of research and building a

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<v Speaker 1>gigantic neurological institute. This is not a foundation. This is

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<v Speaker 1>actual bricks and mortar. And I'm more proud of that,

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<v Speaker 1>outside of my family goals and wishes, than anything I've

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<v Speaker 1>ever done in my life. Is being a part of

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<v Speaker 1>the team. I'm not a scientist, I'm not a neurologist,

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<v Speaker 1>not a doctor. I can talk it a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>for sure about what we're going through and what we're

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<v Speaker 1>researching and what trial programs are going through. But I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a cheerleader. I try to be a visionary in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of bringing people together and helping create funding opportunities. But

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<v Speaker 1>the Nance Center, which gives my dad a voice that

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<v Speaker 1>he never had. It's being heard around the world and

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<v Speaker 1>we have nine trials that are ongoing right now. We

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<v Speaker 1>have one that we just recently hit on. It was

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<v Speaker 1>in the Wall Street Journal that this was the first

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<v Speaker 1>breakthrough discovery in Alzheimer's treatment ever, and we were one

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<v Speaker 1>of the few places on the planet that was trusted

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<v Speaker 1>with administering that trial at our research institute. So a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of NFL involved mcdan, a lot of former players, coaches, etc.

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<v Speaker 1>That confidentially reach out to me and want to come

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<v Speaker 1>down to the Nance Center to be diagnosed or be

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<v Speaker 1>put on a trial and have a treatment program. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's if you want to find out more about it,

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<v Speaker 1>Nance Friends dot Org is where you can find about it.

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<v Speaker 1>It is my cause, and I'll tell you why it's

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<v Speaker 1>my cause. It's it's a it's a it was a

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<v Speaker 1>disease that defeated my dad. The most robust personality, life

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<v Speaker 1>of the party, kind of guy you could ever see,

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<v Speaker 1>and it brought him down to a guy who couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>even recognize his own family, stricken at the age of

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<v Speaker 1>sixty six. So, as a son is an only son

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<v Speaker 1>who carries his name and was bequeathed his voice. I

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<v Speaker 1>want his voice to be heard through me, and I

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<v Speaker 1>want to be able to say that I was a

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<v Speaker 1>part of the team that helped defeat the opponent that

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<v Speaker 1>defeated my dad. That is my mission on earth, outside

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<v Speaker 1>of my family goals. That's my goal, that's my cause.

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<v Speaker 1>That is powerful stuff. Jim, this has been a real

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<v Speaker 1>treat for me. I can't thank you enough for doing it.

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<v Speaker 1>Have a great game on Sunday. I look forward to it,

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<v Speaker 1>probably the first of a few appearances at the Jungle

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<v Speaker 1>before this season is over. It's a big one and

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<v Speaker 1>this game will dictate how often Tony and I come

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<v Speaker 1>back come January. But Dan, great admire view you and

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<v Speaker 1>who you are in your work, and let's do this

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<v Speaker 1>again the next time we have a Bengals game. That

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<v Speaker 1>interview was done via zoom. There are about three people

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<v Speaker 1>watching on the Bengals end and when Jim Nance appeared

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<v Speaker 1>on the screen. He said, hello friends. It was like

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<v Speaker 1>the final round of the Masters was about to begin.

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<v Speaker 1>In the first meeting between the Bengals and Chiefs last year,

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<v Speaker 1>Jamar Chase had the greatest receiving performance in team history,

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<v Speaker 1>with eleven catches for two hundred sixty six yards and

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<v Speaker 1>three touchdowns. That was the most yards in a game

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<v Speaker 1>by a Bengals receiver and the most ever buy an

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<v Speaker 1>NFL rookie. Jamara's missed the last four games with a

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<v Speaker 1>hairline hip fracture, but all signs point to him being

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<v Speaker 1>back on Sunday. I felt really good last week. I

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<v Speaker 1>just want to give him myself, you know, the right

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<v Speaker 1>amount of time. I don't want another rush anything. So

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<v Speaker 1>I felt good last week, running straight and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>making cuts. Yes, last week, you know, I even tried

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<v Speaker 1>to make cuts on my leg hard as I could.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I didn't really feel nothing. So it's just

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<v Speaker 1>want to be comfortable, you know, you don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>send somebody on the field that's not comfortable playing yet.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know what I'm saying, a hundred percent player,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't want to send them. You know somebody out

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<v Speaker 1>there that's not ready to play, that's all. You're not

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<v Speaker 1>worried about tickets, not worried about that. I'm just worried

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<v Speaker 1>about being ready to play in ready to provide for

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<v Speaker 1>what they need me to do. Chase was listed as

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<v Speaker 1>a limited participant in practice on Wednesday and Thursday, as

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<v Speaker 1>was Joe Mixon, who was likely to return after missing

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<v Speaker 1>last Sunday's game at Tennessee, a video shot by Mark

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<v Speaker 1>Slaughter from wl WT in Cincinnati went viral. It showed

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<v Speaker 1>Ted Carriss viewing fbombs as he walked off the field

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<v Speaker 1>after the victory. Ted was upset about the Titans behavior

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<v Speaker 1>on the final few snaps of the game when the

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals were in the victory formation. He even took a

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<v Speaker 1>punch to the face on the final play of the

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<v Speaker 1>game from Jeffrey Simmons. I spoke to Carris about it

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<v Speaker 1>this week. Things got a little testy at the end

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<v Speaker 1>of the game last week when the Bengals were in

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<v Speaker 1>the victory formation and the Titans kind of tried to

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<v Speaker 1>jump the snap and blow it up. Is that against

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<v Speaker 1>the unwritten rules of football to do that? I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a certain protocol, but they didn't want to concede.

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<v Speaker 1>That's their right. So, you know, just glad we got

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<v Speaker 1>out there of the victory. You were captured on camera

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<v Speaker 1>fired up walking off the field. They can't repeat exactly

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<v Speaker 1>what she said, but Zach Taylor was asked about it

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<v Speaker 1>this week and he said, Ted, carrist is going to

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<v Speaker 1>be a Cincinnati legend. How did you become aware of

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that that went viral? My dad? I was

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<v Speaker 1>talking to my dad for the game and said, ask

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<v Speaker 1>me if I was all right and if I knew

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<v Speaker 1>I was trending on Twitter. So that's kind of It's

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<v Speaker 1>a weird, vulnerable feeling and everyone's talking about you online.

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<v Speaker 1>But glad it was overall positive thanks to Cincinnati fans

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<v Speaker 1>great reaction, but you know, you don't want to always

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<v Speaker 1>live like that. But you know it was fired up,

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<v Speaker 1>big physical victory, so glad to get out of there

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<v Speaker 1>with a win. Now it's all Chiefs. You were miked

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<v Speaker 1>up way back in Week four for the Miami game.

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<v Speaker 1>My favorite part was when you were walking off the

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<v Speaker 1>field after the clinching touchdown. You've got your arms raised

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<v Speaker 1>in triumph and you accidentally clock one of the officials.

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<v Speaker 1>Was the contact pretty good? Well? The only thing I

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<v Speaker 1>was worried about was it is illegal to touching officials,

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<v Speaker 1>so it could be potentially been a fifteen year AP penalty.

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<v Speaker 1>Obviously in that context it wouldn't have been. But uh no,

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<v Speaker 1>that wasn't. I mean, obviously he dropped the ball, so

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<v Speaker 1>it was enough to to to cause a fumble by

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<v Speaker 1>the ref. So I just want to make sure that

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<v Speaker 1>you know we didn't do anything dicey at the end there.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to make sure you knew it was inadverted

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<v Speaker 1>because you know, I've seen stuff like that. Inadverted shots

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<v Speaker 1>end up in fifteen year A penalties, and you don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to live like that. We're chatting with Ted Carris.

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<v Speaker 1>You're eleven games getting ready for twelve in your first

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<v Speaker 1>season with the Bengals at this point, you know your teammates. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>tell me something about Joe Burrow that's really stood out

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<v Speaker 1>to you so far. I think his uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>attention to detail is obsession with victory is awesome. He's

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<v Speaker 1>a great chess player. I think that's pretty admirable, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, just a pleasure to be around. Very you know,

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<v Speaker 1>one of the most successible superstars I've ever been around.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you competed in chess? No, I'm not going to

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<v Speaker 1>him and Kappa compete, So they're they're very good. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>more of a more of a Katan player if you're

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<v Speaker 1>playing Setlers of Katan. Yeah, we've got that at home.

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<v Speaker 1>So Lap's nickname for Alex Kappa's Phi Beta Kappa. It

0:25:18.760 --> 0:25:20.600
<v Speaker 1>sounds like if he's a good chess player, that might

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<v Speaker 1>be accurate. Yeah, I think that's well, that's more of

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<v Speaker 1>a nod to uh animal house, I think. But yeah, No,

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<v Speaker 1>Caps extraordinary been a huge part of our line success.

0:25:30.840 --> 0:25:33.159
<v Speaker 1>We would not be in the same position without Ox Kappa. So,

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<v Speaker 1>speaking of the line success, I interviewed Charles Davis from

0:25:36.520 --> 0:25:39.720
<v Speaker 1>CBS last week. He had the game He also called

0:25:39.760 --> 0:25:42.280
<v Speaker 1>the season opener against the Steelers. So I asked him

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<v Speaker 1>about the lines improvement and what he's seen. He said,

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<v Speaker 1>the Bengals are now a top third offensive line in

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL. So thirty two teams, that's roughly top ten.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you think, you know, it's a great compliment.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that you know, the team is playing, you know,

0:25:56.119 --> 0:25:58.880
<v Speaker 1>the unit's playing well, obviously well enough to win in November,

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<v Speaker 1>but we got to keep it going. Uh, there's no

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<v Speaker 1>you know, magic pill that's just going to transfer over

0:26:03.920 --> 0:26:06.960
<v Speaker 1>good performance. Besides, you know, good practice, attention to detail,

0:26:07.000 --> 0:26:09.240
<v Speaker 1>and everyone being prepared, ready to go. So it's Kansas

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<v Speaker 1>City this week. A former roommate is on the other roster. Correct, Yeah,

0:26:13.080 --> 0:26:15.040
<v Speaker 1>Joe Tuoney stood up in my wedding, one of my

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<v Speaker 1>best friends. Uh Dayton Archbishop alter Alum. So excited to

0:26:21.920 --> 0:26:24.240
<v Speaker 1>see him. We'll see his family after the game. I'm excited.

0:26:24.320 --> 0:26:27.920
<v Speaker 1>They're great family friends, amazing people. You know, it'll be

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<v Speaker 1>nice to shake his hand with a victory. Hygi two

0:26:30.200 --> 0:26:32.160
<v Speaker 1>hit it off so well, and we came in together.

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<v Speaker 1>We were drafted together. He was basically the first guy

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<v Speaker 1>I met. We're very similar, you know, Midwest o lineman

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<v Speaker 1>have a lot of similar interests, but you know I

0:26:41.440 --> 0:26:44.640
<v Speaker 1>had a good, you know, back and forth, good dichotomy

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<v Speaker 1>of interest. So it was amazing live with them for

0:26:47.600 --> 0:26:50.960
<v Speaker 1>four years and you know, always rooting for the best.

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<v Speaker 1>Glad he got to, you know, cash in with that

0:26:53.040 --> 0:26:55.520
<v Speaker 1>big deal and he's still playing, you know, as good

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<v Speaker 1>as anyone in the league. Are you a jersey swap

0:26:58.000 --> 0:27:00.520
<v Speaker 1>kind of guy? Well, that happened this week. I have

0:27:00.680 --> 0:27:04.560
<v Speaker 1>about sixty jerseys Dan in my collection. Mostly I just

0:27:04.680 --> 0:27:07.040
<v Speaker 1>buy him and have my teammates signed him, so they'll

0:27:07.040 --> 0:27:08.920
<v Speaker 1>all go open my bar. At some point I'm gonna

0:27:08.920 --> 0:27:11.040
<v Speaker 1>open a bar up. So that's what I can't. Can't

0:27:11.040 --> 0:27:12.400
<v Speaker 1>put it that many of my house. I would look

0:27:12.400 --> 0:27:14.879
<v Speaker 1>like an idiot. Yeah, it'll be wall to wall in

0:27:14.960 --> 0:27:16.760
<v Speaker 1>the bar. It'll look great. A couple more questions for

0:27:16.840 --> 0:27:19.600
<v Speaker 1>Ted Carris. According to Pro Football Focus, the top ranked

0:27:19.760 --> 0:27:23.440
<v Speaker 1>interior defensive lineman in the NFL isn't Aaron Donald. It

0:27:23.520 --> 0:27:25.880
<v Speaker 1>isn't Jeffrey Simmons, who you faced last week. It isn't

0:27:25.920 --> 0:27:28.640
<v Speaker 1>Cam Hayward. It is the guy you're going to face

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<v Speaker 1>this week. Chris Jones is a brute strength? Is it quickness.

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<v Speaker 1>What is it about this guy that makes him so

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<v Speaker 1>tough premiere player? I think you know, one thing people

0:27:36.720 --> 0:27:38.400
<v Speaker 1>estimate is how big he is. He has six six

0:27:38.600 --> 0:27:42.160
<v Speaker 1>very long, very very long and strong. So we're gonna

0:27:42.160 --> 0:27:43.280
<v Speaker 1>have to bring our best. You know, he has a

0:27:43.320 --> 0:27:45.320
<v Speaker 1>good array of moves, he has a good toolbox, very

0:27:45.359 --> 0:27:47.440
<v Speaker 1>savvy player, played a long time at a high level,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's gonna be another test for us to you know,

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<v Speaker 1>perform absolutely very best. You've been making the media rounds

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<v Speaker 1>recently to promote a worthy cause, the sins He hat

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<v Speaker 1>and what it raises money for, or give us the

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<v Speaker 1>backstory of the sinc He hat. Since he hat is

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<v Speaker 1>you've probably seen it on a couple of guys. It's

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<v Speaker 1>the you know, black wider orange hats that'd say since

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<v Speaker 1>and it benefits the village of Mariachi, Indianapolis, which provides

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<v Speaker 1>independent living and social connections and employment opportunities for adults

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<v Speaker 1>with developmental disabilities. So autism downstoner mean the most common.

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<v Speaker 1>And that will be on your shoes this week for

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<v Speaker 1>my cause, my cleats is that correct? That will be

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<v Speaker 1>that will be on my shoes. They'll be up for

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<v Speaker 1>auction two this spring. Off the casino night in Indianapolis,

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<v Speaker 1>so hopefully a couple of since A residents make their

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<v Speaker 1>for auction. We didn't have one last year obviously, had

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<v Speaker 1>to cancel that a few times due to COVID protocol.

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate your time, best of luck this week, and

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<v Speaker 1>you were great as a TV weather man. Thank you

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<v Speaker 1>so much. Dan. Let's go who Day. Yes. While making

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<v Speaker 1>week's Know the Faux segment. Joe Valerio spent four years

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<v Speaker 1>as an offensive lineman in Kansas City and currently covers

0:29:27.080 --> 0:29:29.600
<v Speaker 1>the Chiefs as one of the hosts of the Believe

0:29:29.680 --> 0:29:34.600
<v Speaker 1>in Chiefs podcast Joe and the Chiefs traded Tyree Hill.

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<v Speaker 1>I think a lot of people wondered that the Kansas

0:29:36.600 --> 0:29:39.320
<v Speaker 1>City offense was going to dip a little bit. Well,

0:29:39.400 --> 0:29:41.480
<v Speaker 1>let's see their number one in yards, they're number one

0:29:41.560 --> 0:29:44.600
<v Speaker 1>in points, just under thirty a game. How are they

0:29:44.760 --> 0:29:48.080
<v Speaker 1>doing it? Well? I gotta give them a lot of credit.

0:29:48.200 --> 0:29:51.400
<v Speaker 1>I give Brett Veach and Andy Reid and on the

0:29:51.480 --> 0:29:53.480
<v Speaker 1>offense and defensive coordinators, and also you got to throw

0:29:53.520 --> 0:29:56.480
<v Speaker 1>special teams in there as well. You know, they're really

0:29:56.560 --> 0:30:00.280
<v Speaker 1>good at diversifying when folks leave, and if you take

0:30:00.320 --> 0:30:02.760
<v Speaker 1>the Tyreek example that you you know that you brought

0:30:02.840 --> 0:30:05.920
<v Speaker 1>up Dan, they diversified their wide receiving core and I

0:30:06.000 --> 0:30:08.640
<v Speaker 1>thought that was a real positive for them. I felt like,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll call it a two trick pony because you always

0:30:11.560 --> 0:30:14.479
<v Speaker 1>got to throw Travis Kelsey in the mix, right. They

0:30:14.520 --> 0:30:17.560
<v Speaker 1>were getting to the point where I think defensive coordinators

0:30:17.600 --> 0:30:19.560
<v Speaker 1>were starting to get on track with what they were

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<v Speaker 1>doing and what the playbook looked like. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>this was you know the magic of Andy Reid and

0:30:24.360 --> 0:30:26.600
<v Speaker 1>what Brett Feach has been able to do. And I

0:30:26.920 --> 0:30:29.560
<v Speaker 1>guess the best term not to overuse the term was.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they diversified in a way that caused a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of defensive coordinators to take a step back and

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<v Speaker 1>rewrite what they were going to do. Because I look

0:30:37.920 --> 0:30:41.040
<v Speaker 1>at that receiving core that's been able to withstand injury.

0:30:41.480 --> 0:30:44.480
<v Speaker 1>Right when somebody gets hurt, another guy steps up. You

0:30:44.560 --> 0:30:47.440
<v Speaker 1>know they've got finally, you know, in like an MVS,

0:30:47.560 --> 0:30:50.360
<v Speaker 1>they've got the back shoulder throw that Patrick can make.

0:30:50.480 --> 0:30:53.200
<v Speaker 1>You know, I call those the Randy Moss types, you know,

0:30:53.400 --> 0:30:56.920
<v Speaker 1>the Terrell Owens types. You know they've got you know,

0:30:57.040 --> 0:31:01.040
<v Speaker 1>they've got the sort of the possession received in like

0:31:01.120 --> 0:31:04.920
<v Speaker 1>a Justin Watson, who's you know, kind of he's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>get open, He's gonna find an open spot, he's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>you know, he's gonna be able to get in an

0:31:10.480 --> 0:31:13.040
<v Speaker 1>area where you know he needs to be. Juju is

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<v Speaker 1>in that same camp where Juju is more of a

0:31:16.320 --> 0:31:20.080
<v Speaker 1>smaller possession type receiver, very short handed, and you know,

0:31:20.160 --> 0:31:21.800
<v Speaker 1>and I think that's what they were able to do.

0:31:21.960 --> 0:31:24.080
<v Speaker 1>And of course you always will have Rcole Hardman as

0:31:24.160 --> 0:31:27.120
<v Speaker 1>as sort of the speed guy. And I think it's

0:31:27.160 --> 0:31:29.760
<v Speaker 1>given them enough, it's given them more pages in the playbook.

0:31:29.800 --> 0:31:32.920
<v Speaker 1>So anyway, long answer to a short question, Dan, that's

0:31:32.960 --> 0:31:36.320
<v Speaker 1>what I think about Tyreek Hill leaving. It's what they've

0:31:36.320 --> 0:31:38.200
<v Speaker 1>been able to do offensively. Has settled a lot of

0:31:38.240 --> 0:31:42.440
<v Speaker 1>those questions and demonstrated that they could do it without him, although, hey,

0:31:42.560 --> 0:31:43.920
<v Speaker 1>he was a big piece of the puzzle to miss

0:31:44.000 --> 0:31:46.280
<v Speaker 1>and I'm sure there are times when Andy Reid Eric

0:31:46.360 --> 0:31:49.640
<v Speaker 1>the enemy aren't missing him a ton. Joe, you played

0:31:49.680 --> 0:31:52.680
<v Speaker 1>offensive line in the NFL. My broadcast partner Dave Lappam

0:31:52.800 --> 0:31:55.520
<v Speaker 1>played offensive line in the NFL. He says, in a

0:31:55.640 --> 0:31:58.280
<v Speaker 1>normal game, you try to stop the run and then

0:31:58.360 --> 0:32:01.880
<v Speaker 1>you defend the pass. He's says against the Chiefs, it's

0:32:01.920 --> 0:32:04.320
<v Speaker 1>the reverse. You have to stop the pass, so you

0:32:04.480 --> 0:32:09.080
<v Speaker 1>almost dare them to run. Do you agree? I totally agree,

0:32:09.080 --> 0:32:10.880
<v Speaker 1>And it's something I've been talking with, you know, my

0:32:10.960 --> 0:32:15.080
<v Speaker 1>podcast partner Jeff Fidoton about for years. I have felt

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<v Speaker 1>over the last several years, we'll just call it several,

0:32:17.400 --> 0:32:20.480
<v Speaker 1>we'll bucket it in a big term, I felt like

0:32:20.720 --> 0:32:23.600
<v Speaker 1>they have been somebody who hasn't really been committed and

0:32:23.640 --> 0:32:25.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to use that in air quotes right, committed

0:32:25.640 --> 0:32:29.640
<v Speaker 1>to the run game. And I think with Isaiah Pacheco

0:32:29.800 --> 0:32:32.480
<v Speaker 1>now coming on. I think they may have found somebody.

0:32:32.640 --> 0:32:35.000
<v Speaker 1>You know, there's those terms out there. When he runs,

0:32:35.080 --> 0:32:38.840
<v Speaker 1>he's trying to hurt the ground. You know, he gets

0:32:38.920 --> 0:32:41.720
<v Speaker 1>up and runs faster after the play is over. He's

0:32:41.760 --> 0:32:44.880
<v Speaker 1>just got that level of energy. I think they may

0:32:45.000 --> 0:32:47.320
<v Speaker 1>have found somebody that you can pull back and say,

0:32:47.960 --> 0:32:50.840
<v Speaker 1>I mean, could he be the next Priest Holmes Kareem Hunt.

0:32:51.040 --> 0:32:54.320
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, but that's a big stretch for a rookie.

0:32:54.760 --> 0:32:57.400
<v Speaker 1>But I think that's the piece that this offense has

0:32:57.480 --> 0:33:01.000
<v Speaker 1>been missing. And I feel like whenever the Chiefs have

0:33:01.160 --> 0:33:04.200
<v Speaker 1>committed to the run again, I'm going to overuse this term.

0:33:04.640 --> 0:33:07.920
<v Speaker 1>It allows them to open up the playbook and it

0:33:08.040 --> 0:33:11.440
<v Speaker 1>gives Patrick Moore options more things to do when you've

0:33:11.520 --> 0:33:14.160
<v Speaker 1>got eight guys kind of crowding the box a little bit,

0:33:14.280 --> 0:33:17.720
<v Speaker 1>wondering if they're gonna run, are they going to play action?

0:33:17.800 --> 0:33:19.400
<v Speaker 1>You know, what are they gonna do? And I just

0:33:19.520 --> 0:33:21.920
<v Speaker 1>feel like I'm super excited about what they're doing with

0:33:22.000 --> 0:33:23.680
<v Speaker 1>Isaiah now and I think it's going to help them

0:33:23.760 --> 0:33:26.600
<v Speaker 1>down the stretch. But it's always been I feel the

0:33:26.680 --> 0:33:29.800
<v Speaker 1>Achilles heel of the offense at least Patrick Mahomes's offense,

0:33:30.040 --> 0:33:32.920
<v Speaker 1>maybe not a Trent Green or Alex Smith in the

0:33:32.960 --> 0:33:35.160
<v Speaker 1>past when they've had those kind of big Derrek Henry

0:33:35.200 --> 0:33:38.080
<v Speaker 1>type running backs or a Sequon Barkley somebody like that,

0:33:38.200 --> 0:33:40.200
<v Speaker 1>that's going to get you five and a half yards

0:33:40.240 --> 0:33:43.280
<v Speaker 1>of carry. I feel like it's always been their achilles heel.

0:33:44.000 --> 0:33:46.920
<v Speaker 1>Former Chiefs offensive lineman Joe Valerio is our guest. He

0:33:47.080 --> 0:33:49.000
<v Speaker 1>is the host of the Belief in Chiefs podcast on

0:33:49.120 --> 0:33:52.160
<v Speaker 1>the Belief Podcast Network. In the second half of the

0:33:52.280 --> 0:33:55.640
<v Speaker 1>AFC Championship Game last year, Joe, the Bengals rushed three

0:33:55.840 --> 0:33:59.440
<v Speaker 1>and covered with eight on about half of Patrick mahomes

0:33:59.600 --> 0:34:03.200
<v Speaker 1>drop back and it worked. Have teams been trying that

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<v Speaker 1>much this year? And if so, is it's still working.

0:34:07.360 --> 0:34:10.040
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it obviously worked for the Bengals, and I

0:34:10.120 --> 0:34:12.239
<v Speaker 1>think they figured it out right, might as well take

0:34:12.280 --> 0:34:15.600
<v Speaker 1>a shot. If, like you said, you're gonna stop, you're

0:34:15.600 --> 0:34:17.560
<v Speaker 1>gonna stop the pass first. And that's what they did

0:34:17.600 --> 0:34:19.680
<v Speaker 1>in that second half, and I think it was marvelous

0:34:20.360 --> 0:34:23.759
<v Speaker 1>call by the Bengals coaching staff to do that. Um.

0:34:24.280 --> 0:34:26.560
<v Speaker 1>I think with some of the things they have been

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<v Speaker 1>able to do in the run game, while it has

0:34:29.680 --> 0:34:32.960
<v Speaker 1>been limited. It definitely is better than it was last year.

0:34:33.440 --> 0:34:37.200
<v Speaker 1>So I don't see as many teams falling back that many.

0:34:38.360 --> 0:34:42.160
<v Speaker 1>You know, they're generally rushing for you know, you have

0:34:42.239 --> 0:34:44.920
<v Speaker 1>to have a very discipline pass rush against Patrick Mahomes.

0:34:45.120 --> 0:34:47.920
<v Speaker 1>You know, you can't if you give him what I

0:34:48.000 --> 0:34:50.640
<v Speaker 1>call a pocket within the pocket, he's gonna he's gonna

0:34:50.680 --> 0:34:53.000
<v Speaker 1>beat you. Um not with his legs all the time.

0:34:53.080 --> 0:34:54.839
<v Speaker 1>He's not like Josh Allen will what he does run.

0:34:54.880 --> 0:34:57.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying he can't run, but he's gonna find

0:34:57.480 --> 0:34:59.960
<v Speaker 1>that extra second or two to find a receiver who

0:35:00.000 --> 0:35:02.680
<v Speaker 1>you can get into, you know, either in man you know,

0:35:02.760 --> 0:35:05.160
<v Speaker 1>get get away from somebody or sit down in his

0:35:05.280 --> 0:35:08.840
<v Speaker 1>zone and find that open spot. Um So, more teams,

0:35:08.880 --> 0:35:12.759
<v Speaker 1>I think this year because of this better stable of

0:35:12.840 --> 0:35:15.480
<v Speaker 1>running backs i'll call it, and the way they've been performing,

0:35:16.040 --> 0:35:18.760
<v Speaker 1>I think more teams have been bringing you know, seven

0:35:19.360 --> 0:35:21.840
<v Speaker 1>up into the box on first down, and you know,

0:35:21.920 --> 0:35:23.920
<v Speaker 1>and Patrick's been able to make some plays you know,

0:35:24.040 --> 0:35:26.640
<v Speaker 1>on first down with the past when he sees more

0:35:26.920 --> 0:35:29.800
<v Speaker 1>players coming up into that you know, tackle box. So

0:35:29.960 --> 0:35:33.439
<v Speaker 1>I think I think this year it's been a learning lesson.

0:35:33.560 --> 0:35:36.000
<v Speaker 1>That game was a learning lesson for Andy Reid and

0:35:36.080 --> 0:35:37.600
<v Speaker 1>Eric the enemy is that you know, we're going to

0:35:37.680 --> 0:35:41.200
<v Speaker 1>have to do something and not just allow you know,

0:35:41.320 --> 0:35:43.560
<v Speaker 1>three guys to rush and eight guys dropped back. I mean,

0:35:43.600 --> 0:35:46.400
<v Speaker 1>that's that was a fantastic formula for the Bengals and

0:35:46.480 --> 0:35:49.680
<v Speaker 1>hats off to them for for thinking of that. Yo,

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<v Speaker 1>if my math is correct, the Chiefs are twenty and

0:35:52.640 --> 0:35:55.600
<v Speaker 1>four in their last twenty four games, and half of

0:35:55.640 --> 0:35:58.160
<v Speaker 1>the four losses where to Cincinnati in a four week

0:35:58.200 --> 0:36:02.680
<v Speaker 1>span last January. What impact do those losses have on

0:36:02.840 --> 0:36:07.280
<v Speaker 1>this week's game? Well, you know, players always have thoughts

0:36:07.320 --> 0:36:09.360
<v Speaker 1>and count they have they have games circled on the

0:36:09.440 --> 0:36:11.200
<v Speaker 1>calendar as much as as much as you know, I

0:36:11.280 --> 0:36:13.640
<v Speaker 1>lived under the Marty Schottenheimer era, right, and you being

0:36:13.680 --> 0:36:17.080
<v Speaker 1>in Ohio obviously have you know probably at least some

0:36:17.120 --> 0:36:20.120
<v Speaker 1>of those memories of those Cleveland Browns Marty teams. And

0:36:20.480 --> 0:36:22.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, Marty was the kind of coach that always

0:36:22.320 --> 0:36:24.360
<v Speaker 1>said the most important game is your next game. And

0:36:24.440 --> 0:36:26.360
<v Speaker 1>I get that, and I totally live by a philosophy

0:36:26.440 --> 0:36:29.120
<v Speaker 1>not just with football, but also you know things in life.

0:36:29.200 --> 0:36:30.799
<v Speaker 1>You know, the next thing you're doing is the most

0:36:30.840 --> 0:36:34.880
<v Speaker 1>important thing. But but the big butt. You know that

0:36:35.000 --> 0:36:37.759
<v Speaker 1>players circle games on their calendars that you can't help it, right,

0:36:37.840 --> 0:36:40.839
<v Speaker 1>just they're just humans and they're thinking about the things

0:36:40.920 --> 0:36:43.560
<v Speaker 1>that are sitting in their crawl or the things that

0:36:43.680 --> 0:36:46.040
<v Speaker 1>stung them. And I know this game has stung a

0:36:46.120 --> 0:36:49.719
<v Speaker 1>lot of Chiefs. And whether the Bengals were coming in

0:36:49.880 --> 0:36:51.879
<v Speaker 1>here on the role that they're coming in on, which

0:36:51.920 --> 0:36:54.600
<v Speaker 1>is very exciting, right, the seven and four role that

0:36:54.719 --> 0:36:58.360
<v Speaker 1>they're on, because I'm not sure early mid season, you know,

0:36:58.440 --> 0:37:00.560
<v Speaker 1>until they had these three three wins in a row,

0:37:00.600 --> 0:37:03.480
<v Speaker 1>if I'm not mistaken right, that maybe people were doubting

0:37:03.520 --> 0:37:06.480
<v Speaker 1>this team a little bit. And I think Joe Burrow

0:37:06.560 --> 0:37:08.920
<v Speaker 1>and the rest of the team are putting that behind

0:37:09.040 --> 0:37:11.400
<v Speaker 1>them a little bit and they're seeing the team that

0:37:11.480 --> 0:37:13.480
<v Speaker 1>they are and that they were and that they can be.

0:37:13.680 --> 0:37:15.359
<v Speaker 1>And I think, you know, every team goes through those

0:37:15.440 --> 0:37:17.720
<v Speaker 1>rough patches, So this is going to be an amazing

0:37:17.800 --> 0:37:20.080
<v Speaker 1>game for a lot of reasons. I think there's going

0:37:20.160 --> 0:37:22.839
<v Speaker 1>to be a lot of players on the Kansas City

0:37:22.880 --> 0:37:24.440
<v Speaker 1>side that are going to have a little bit of

0:37:24.440 --> 0:37:26.480
<v Speaker 1>a chip on their shoulder about this game, and they

0:37:26.560 --> 0:37:29.160
<v Speaker 1>probably had it circled regardless of whether you know, you

0:37:29.200 --> 0:37:31.120
<v Speaker 1>don't want to look past the Raiders and the Broncos

0:37:31.160 --> 0:37:34.359
<v Speaker 1>in the AFC West. This that game stung a lot

0:37:34.440 --> 0:37:36.120
<v Speaker 1>of a lot of players, a lot of fans. So

0:37:36.360 --> 0:37:38.799
<v Speaker 1>I think, I think the Chiefs are going to pull out,

0:37:39.120 --> 0:37:41.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, all the stops that they can, and I

0:37:41.600 --> 0:37:43.680
<v Speaker 1>think the players are going to be, you know, pretty

0:37:43.719 --> 0:37:47.080
<v Speaker 1>mentally prepared for this game. Valerio played for the Chiefs

0:37:47.120 --> 0:37:49.000
<v Speaker 1>in the nineteen nineties. He as the host of the

0:37:49.120 --> 0:37:52.720
<v Speaker 1>Believe in Chiefs podcast. Let's turn to the Kansas City defense.

0:37:53.040 --> 0:37:57.080
<v Speaker 1>What's the strength, what's the biggest weakness? Well, I couldn't.

0:37:57.200 --> 0:38:00.880
<v Speaker 1>You can't. You can't say anything without bringing up Chris Jones, right,

0:38:01.000 --> 0:38:05.000
<v Speaker 1>you can't. You can't have a defensive conversation without him. Um.

0:38:05.800 --> 0:38:08.080
<v Speaker 1>I thought at the beginning of this season, and the

0:38:08.200 --> 0:38:12.200
<v Speaker 1>reason why you know they went after karloftas early in

0:38:12.280 --> 0:38:15.279
<v Speaker 1>the first round was the pass rush. You know, what,

0:38:15.760 --> 0:38:17.799
<v Speaker 1>what is Frank Clark going to be able to bring

0:38:17.920 --> 0:38:21.520
<v Speaker 1>to the table in his you know, advanced age. Um,

0:38:21.840 --> 0:38:23.319
<v Speaker 1>you know, are we going to be able to get

0:38:23.360 --> 0:38:26.719
<v Speaker 1>after the quarterback? And you know I would have said

0:38:27.040 --> 0:38:29.880
<v Speaker 1>six weeks ago, eight weeks ago, early on that that

0:38:30.040 --> 0:38:32.080
<v Speaker 1>pass rush was going to be their weak link, and

0:38:32.360 --> 0:38:35.640
<v Speaker 1>it's turning out to be one of their better facets

0:38:35.680 --> 0:38:37.120
<v Speaker 1>of their team. I think a lot of it has

0:38:37.160 --> 0:38:40.640
<v Speaker 1>to do with game planning and positioning that Steve Spagnolan's

0:38:40.680 --> 0:38:44.719
<v Speaker 1>the defense coordinator, is doing. He's taking not a really

0:38:44.800 --> 0:38:47.160
<v Speaker 1>well known group of guys. I mean, you know, George

0:38:47.200 --> 0:38:50.719
<v Speaker 1>Carloftas got his first sack um, you know, full sack

0:38:50.800 --> 0:38:54.040
<v Speaker 1>against the Rams, so he has been a lot of pressures,

0:38:54.160 --> 0:38:57.719
<v Speaker 1>but definitely not getting after the quarterback um. I think

0:38:57.800 --> 0:39:01.000
<v Speaker 1>they were worried about, you know, whether or not, you know,

0:39:01.080 --> 0:39:03.560
<v Speaker 1>obviously we're playing without Frank Clark right now because of

0:39:03.640 --> 0:39:06.279
<v Speaker 1>the of the of the suspension, whether he was going

0:39:06.360 --> 0:39:07.800
<v Speaker 1>to be able to hold up. He came back in

0:39:08.000 --> 0:39:11.000
<v Speaker 1>fantastic shape and has been making an impact. And even

0:39:11.080 --> 0:39:14.359
<v Speaker 1>guys like you know, Mike Dana, Carlos Dunlap there, they're

0:39:15.120 --> 0:39:18.600
<v Speaker 1>they're Steve spagnol is finding a way to make make

0:39:18.640 --> 0:39:20.720
<v Speaker 1>it work for them. And that's what this defensive staff

0:39:20.800 --> 0:39:22.960
<v Speaker 1>always does, and an offense they do it. I think

0:39:23.040 --> 0:39:26.840
<v Speaker 1>even more. Steve Spagnola never takes a square peg and

0:39:26.920 --> 0:39:28.800
<v Speaker 1>tries to jam it into a round hole. He doesn't

0:39:28.800 --> 0:39:31.440
<v Speaker 1>say this is my defensive philosophy, you're going to fit.

0:39:31.480 --> 0:39:35.799
<v Speaker 1>It's my way or the highway. He constantly is evolving

0:39:36.600 --> 0:39:40.600
<v Speaker 1>the player's skills and their attributes to meet the needs

0:39:40.640 --> 0:39:42.920
<v Speaker 1>of the defense. I really respect that about him. I

0:39:43.000 --> 0:39:46.560
<v Speaker 1>love that about coaches. His playbook is very let's call

0:39:46.640 --> 0:39:51.160
<v Speaker 1>it flexible, variable and one that is in you know,

0:39:51.400 --> 0:39:54.279
<v Speaker 1>there's lots of iterations of it. So that would have

0:39:54.360 --> 0:39:56.840
<v Speaker 1>been the weak link. I think right now, you know

0:39:57.040 --> 0:39:58.920
<v Speaker 1>Nick Bolton's playing well, I would have said it was

0:39:58.960 --> 0:40:01.760
<v Speaker 1>the linebacking corp. But with Willie gayback and Nick Bolton's

0:40:01.800 --> 0:40:05.040
<v Speaker 1>having a Pro Bowl type season, Leo Channel as a

0:40:05.160 --> 0:40:08.680
<v Speaker 1>rookie came on. I mean I would have said that

0:40:08.840 --> 0:40:11.799
<v Speaker 1>maybe the whole defense was a week you know, six

0:40:11.920 --> 0:40:13.800
<v Speaker 1>months ago as we were heading into the off season.

0:40:13.880 --> 0:40:18.760
<v Speaker 1>But the drafting of Trent McDuffie, Justin Reid, Legarius Snead

0:40:18.880 --> 0:40:22.000
<v Speaker 1>coming into their own, I have to say I can't

0:40:22.160 --> 0:40:26.760
<v Speaker 1>really find as strong of a week link on defense

0:40:26.880 --> 0:40:29.080
<v Speaker 1>as I do on the Chiefs offense, which I think

0:40:29.200 --> 0:40:32.840
<v Speaker 1>is still the running game, the overall running game. On defense,

0:40:32.920 --> 0:40:35.400
<v Speaker 1>I think they've shored up all those things where they

0:40:35.560 --> 0:40:38.719
<v Speaker 1>might not be a plus in any one of those

0:40:39.440 --> 0:40:43.000
<v Speaker 1>attributes D backs, middle of the field, linebacking and then

0:40:43.440 --> 0:40:45.839
<v Speaker 1>up front on the D line. But you know, they're

0:40:45.960 --> 0:40:48.319
<v Speaker 1>solid B B plus across the board, and I think

0:40:48.360 --> 0:40:51.560
<v Speaker 1>it's it's giving them some success right now, Joe, you

0:40:51.640 --> 0:40:54.400
<v Speaker 1>mentioned the name Carlos Dunlap. I'm guessing there are Bengals

0:40:54.440 --> 0:40:57.359
<v Speaker 1>fans listening to this that didn't even realize he's wound

0:40:57.440 --> 0:40:59.200
<v Speaker 1>up with the Kansas City Chiefs this year and is

0:40:59.200 --> 0:41:01.560
<v Speaker 1>wearing the number eight. He had some great years in

0:41:01.680 --> 0:41:05.000
<v Speaker 1>Cincinnati before an ugly exit. What's his role with the

0:41:05.080 --> 0:41:07.759
<v Speaker 1>Chiefs right now? And how is he doing? I mean,

0:41:07.800 --> 0:41:10.719
<v Speaker 1>he's got he's got four sacks, so he's he's making

0:41:10.760 --> 0:41:14.640
<v Speaker 1>an impact. He's, you know, definitely a great rotation player

0:41:15.120 --> 0:41:17.080
<v Speaker 1>who gets you know, he gets a lot of starts

0:41:17.400 --> 0:41:20.680
<v Speaker 1>um uh and and and he's you know, he's really

0:41:20.800 --> 0:41:24.000
<v Speaker 1>jumped in there. And it's very uh, it's very easy

0:41:24.080 --> 0:41:25.520
<v Speaker 1>to find him on the field because you see a

0:41:25.600 --> 0:41:27.440
<v Speaker 1>number eight lining up at defensive end and you're like,

0:41:27.600 --> 0:41:30.319
<v Speaker 1>wait a minute, that that a wide receiver, but fall

0:41:30.400 --> 0:41:34.040
<v Speaker 1>out onto the defense. But he's very very recognizable out there,

0:41:34.239 --> 0:41:37.120
<v Speaker 1>and you know he's been he's been they've been rotating

0:41:37.239 --> 0:41:39.520
<v Speaker 1>him in when he you know, when he starts. But

0:41:40.040 --> 0:41:42.640
<v Speaker 1>that's what this defense has been doing. They've been trying

0:41:42.680 --> 0:41:45.239
<v Speaker 1>to build depth where where they can get, you know,

0:41:45.440 --> 0:41:48.040
<v Speaker 1>folks to rotate through. So they're not playing you know,

0:41:48.239 --> 0:41:50.680
<v Speaker 1>sixty seventy plays on defense. Maybe they're playing you know,

0:41:50.920 --> 0:41:53.480
<v Speaker 1>the starters are playing the forty five or fifty critical

0:41:53.920 --> 0:41:56.880
<v Speaker 1>defensive plays because defense is a rotation position, and that's

0:41:56.920 --> 0:41:58.719
<v Speaker 1>what he's been doing. And he's you know, he's made

0:41:58.719 --> 0:42:02.720
<v Speaker 1>a really nice role play impact, especially with Frank clark

0:42:03.239 --> 0:42:06.279
<v Speaker 1>suspension and uh, you know, with bringing helping to bring

0:42:06.360 --> 0:42:09.919
<v Speaker 1>guys like George Carl Aftis, you know, an untested rookie along.

0:42:10.040 --> 0:42:12.840
<v Speaker 1>So I think he's been been a great addition. He

0:42:12.920 --> 0:42:16.000
<v Speaker 1>seems to have found his niche with the Chiefs and

0:42:16.080 --> 0:42:18.239
<v Speaker 1>he's found his role. So I think the fans are

0:42:18.280 --> 0:42:21.760
<v Speaker 1>really happy to have him. Are there any injury questions

0:42:21.960 --> 0:42:24.040
<v Speaker 1>that we should be keeping our eye on this week

0:42:24.120 --> 0:42:26.600
<v Speaker 1>from Cincinnati? They have to keep an eye on whether,

0:42:27.280 --> 0:42:29.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, what Andy's gonna do besides just the injuries,

0:42:29.640 --> 0:42:31.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, what are they gonna do? Uh, you know

0:42:31.360 --> 0:42:33.920
<v Speaker 1>with Clyde Edwards, Hilaire right, is he going to play

0:42:33.960 --> 0:42:36.480
<v Speaker 1>again and is Isaiah Pacheco and Ronald Jones going to

0:42:36.520 --> 0:42:38.239
<v Speaker 1>be Are they going to be the guys rotating in

0:42:38.320 --> 0:42:41.560
<v Speaker 1>with Jack McKinnon. The other one is Joe Tuoney. Joe

0:42:41.680 --> 0:42:44.040
<v Speaker 1>has been banged up a lot, you know. Nick Alagretti

0:42:44.960 --> 0:42:47.239
<v Speaker 1>is the he's my number, sake, number seventy three. Plus

0:42:47.280 --> 0:42:48.680
<v Speaker 1>he got a lot of vows in his name, so

0:42:48.840 --> 0:42:50.759
<v Speaker 1>you know, we kind of any caught a touchdown last year,

0:42:51.200 --> 0:42:53.640
<v Speaker 1>so he's a tackle eligible too. Like we've we've we've

0:42:53.680 --> 0:42:57.120
<v Speaker 1>bonded uh dramatically. Um. But yeah, they'll have to keep

0:42:57.320 --> 0:42:59.440
<v Speaker 1>keep an eye on the line and to see, uh,

0:42:59.680 --> 0:43:02.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, if they can try to puncture that weakness

0:43:02.880 --> 0:43:04.759
<v Speaker 1>of of you know, if Joe Thuney's not going to

0:43:04.800 --> 0:43:07.279
<v Speaker 1>be able to go and Nick Alagretti steps and he's

0:43:07.280 --> 0:43:10.239
<v Speaker 1>done an admirable job filling in. Um. You know, he's

0:43:10.280 --> 0:43:12.400
<v Speaker 1>not the type of backup that's you know, you're going

0:43:12.440 --> 0:43:13.880
<v Speaker 1>to miss a beat when he gets in there. So

0:43:14.320 --> 0:43:17.200
<v Speaker 1>they've done a really good job inside of of of

0:43:17.600 --> 0:43:20.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, managing depth. I'm a little I get a

0:43:20.600 --> 0:43:23.759
<v Speaker 1>little concerned on the outside. We've got some untested tackles

0:43:24.760 --> 0:43:28.560
<v Speaker 1>backing up Orlando Brown and Andrew Wiley in, Darien Kinnard

0:43:28.719 --> 0:43:31.480
<v Speaker 1>and Jared Christian. They haven't really played a whole lot

0:43:31.600 --> 0:43:34.279
<v Speaker 1>this season, and uh, you know they're they're kind of

0:43:34.360 --> 0:43:35.919
<v Speaker 1>you know, as the season goes on and you haven't

0:43:35.920 --> 0:43:37.560
<v Speaker 1>been playing, it can get at it gets a little

0:43:37.600 --> 0:43:40.000
<v Speaker 1>worse each day. So you know, just got to make

0:43:40.040 --> 0:43:43.120
<v Speaker 1>sure that old line stays healthy because that was you know,

0:43:43.200 --> 0:43:46.399
<v Speaker 1>that was their downfall several years ago. In the Super Bowl.

0:43:47.200 --> 0:43:50.359
<v Speaker 1>You had a big man touchdown back in the day. Yeah,

0:43:50.440 --> 0:43:53.919
<v Speaker 1>I had four actually, so well, well, I just you know, listen,

0:43:54.000 --> 0:43:56.719
<v Speaker 1>here's one of my greatest uh you know, uh, the

0:43:56.800 --> 0:43:59.280
<v Speaker 1>greatest honors is that I share that record with Anthony

0:43:59.360 --> 0:44:02.960
<v Speaker 1>Munio's who also had four tackle eligible touchdowns. So we

0:44:03.239 --> 0:44:06.200
<v Speaker 1>share the record along with another player. There's four four

0:44:06.320 --> 0:44:10.279
<v Speaker 1>offensive linemen who have scored four touchdowns, so you know,

0:44:10.320 --> 0:44:13.120
<v Speaker 1>I will always of course, of course, Anthony Munos was

0:44:13.360 --> 0:44:16.439
<v Speaker 1>one of my idols growing up. I loved watching him play.

0:44:18.160 --> 0:44:21.360
<v Speaker 1>My college strength coach was very good friends with the

0:44:21.440 --> 0:44:23.759
<v Speaker 1>Bengal strength coach back then, who you know, used to

0:44:23.920 --> 0:44:26.440
<v Speaker 1>train guys like Anthony and Tim crumb Ry and so

0:44:26.640 --> 0:44:30.520
<v Speaker 1>I got to know Reggie Williams and so I knew

0:44:30.719 --> 0:44:32.600
<v Speaker 1>a lot about the Bengals even though I was a

0:44:32.680 --> 0:44:35.600
<v Speaker 1>Philly NFC kid growing up in Philadelphia with my Eagles.

0:44:35.840 --> 0:44:38.040
<v Speaker 1>I knew a lot about the Bengals through my college

0:44:38.040 --> 0:44:41.319
<v Speaker 1>strength coach who was friendly with the Bengal strength coach,

0:44:41.400 --> 0:44:43.800
<v Speaker 1>so we used to follow their seam strength regimen. So

0:44:44.560 --> 0:44:49.600
<v Speaker 1>really cool connection there with Anthony Joe Valerio, host of

0:44:49.719 --> 0:44:52.320
<v Speaker 1>the Believe in Chiefs podcast, and a guy that chairs

0:44:52.360 --> 0:44:55.279
<v Speaker 1>an NFL record with Anthony Munios. So I doesn't get

0:44:55.280 --> 0:44:56.839
<v Speaker 1>any better than I Just wish I could have played

0:44:56.840 --> 0:44:58.600
<v Speaker 1>as long as he did or had as many Pro Bowls.

0:44:59.239 --> 0:45:02.080
<v Speaker 1>I just you don't have any fingers that face sideways

0:45:02.160 --> 0:45:08.200
<v Speaker 1>like Anthony does. Just one, Joe, this has been terrific.

0:45:08.280 --> 0:45:10.839
<v Speaker 1>I really appreciate your time. Thank you so much. Awesome Dan,

0:45:10.960 --> 0:45:14.000
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